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#171 - Viral Arrest in Jacksonville: Were the Officers Justified? · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  So they've just released footage of the body cam of the officers from the event
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  that happened back in February in Jacksonville.
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  And I want to take a look at this. This is in the ABC News.
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  I had not actually seen this video. This is wild. And I did not realize that
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  this happened like four months ago.
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  But it's now being more evidence is coming out.
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  I thought it was almost AI generated when I first saw this. When I came across
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  this, I didn't think it was real.
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  This black man, he'd been stopped. He's obviously resisting officers.
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  But did they use excessive force? I want to just take a look at this.
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  Can you call your supervisor? All right, go for it. Exit the vehicle now.
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  Exit the vehicle. Show me your hands. Here.
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  I'm here. What is your reason, sir? Step out. What is your reason? Step out now. All right.
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  Do you want me to turn? No, no, no, don't stop. Do you want me to turn? Whoa, so that is wild.
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  I cannot believe that happened. I really, I had not seen that.
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  I know this is, it's been out this long. But I guess we're getting kind of used to it.
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  This is at least what we're fed, that black men are always being stopped and
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  they're always being beaten by white officers.
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  You obviously can see that not all the officers were white right there,
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  but it just plays into this whole race card game.
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  But it's still an actual event of what happened.
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  It's still absolutely wild that that actually went down. But I want to go through
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  this article from ABC News. Jacksonville Sheriff T.K.
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  Waters released body cam footage of the violent arrest of William Anthony McNeil
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  Jr., a 22-year-old black man, after a cell phone video capturing part of the
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  incident went viral on social media.
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  The video shows sheriff's deputies beating and punching McNeil during a traffic
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  stop after he repeatedly questioned why he was being pulled over and refused
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  to exit his vehicle in an incident that occurred on February 19th of this year, 2025.
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  Waters said that the state attorney's office has determined that none of the
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  involved officers violated criminal law, but highlighted that the deputy's actions
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  are now being examined in an administrative review, which will determine if
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  the deputies violated JSO policy.
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  He also identified the deputy who broke the car window and punched McNeil as Officer D. Bowers.
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  These administrative reviews are ongoing, but the state attorney's office has
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  determined that none of the involved officers violated criminal law,
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  even though the administrative review has yet to be completed, Waters said.
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  Pending the outcome of this administrative review, Officer Bowers has been stripped
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  of his law enforcement authority, Waters said.
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  It is unclear if other deputies involved in the arrest have been placed on administrative leave.
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  ABC News has reached out to the JSO and the Florida State Attorney's Office for further comment.
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  So that right there is absolutely crazy. And it's, there's so many different angles.
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  There's so many different ways you can look at this of what went down,
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  what happened. So imagine you're a police officer.
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  This, and when I first saw it, I just saw the guy breaking in and punching through.
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  And I thought it was AI generated. I had, I did not actually think that that
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  was real because the guy is just standing there. He gets punched and he just shows his hands.
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  He's obviously resisting. He's not complying with what the officers are saying.
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  But it did seem like the guy whoever threw
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  the punch that was maybe a little
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  excessive that was maybe a little excessive to do
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  that was that necessary when i first saw
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  it i was thinking like oh they're coming up because you imagine you're a police
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  officer walking up to a car you don't know what's inside there you don't know
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  if you're going to have a gun pulled on you or what but these guys they're out
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  there they're negotiating with them they're talking with him he's resisting
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  them i don't know if they just don't realize that they got a camera on them
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  from inside the vehicle?
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  But police officers now know that they always have a camera on them.
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  Everything that they do is being hyper-criticalized, hyper-scrutinized.
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  I think that's what I was going for.
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  But they obviously know eyes are on them constantly with anything that happens.
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  But what this guy did, he was not going with what the police officers were saying.
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  He was not obeying what they were telling him to do.
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  Which police officers they they have they are
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  representing the law of the united states so it's like if
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  if you say you don't want you don't want to comply with just this
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  what this person's doing because i get that you know i'm not all in like back
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  the blue 100 i'm not all i'm not like that i know there are a lot of like conservatives
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  out there that are for that because i know that the police in an instant will
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  turn if if things aren't going well for them they are the ones that will flip in an instant.
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  They will be the ones that they're
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  not loyal a lot of times to the best well-being of everybody out there.
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  They're going to go with the government. If the government tells them to do
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  something, they're going to just completely lockstep do that.
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  There will be people that kind of don't align perfectly with that and they might
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  resist and try to stand for what's right.
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  If the government say it tries to lock down everyone, tries to just use excessive
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  force, tries to maybe come and strip everybody's guns away, only a few brave
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  officers out there are going to stand up and watch for right.
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  Because you can see anybody and any place in time in history,
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  those people that have the authority, they'll easily go with it because if it
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  costs them their pension, their jobs, just their way of life.
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  They're going to go with what is convenient a lot of times for them.
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  If it costs sacrificing their retirement fund or sacrificing their authority.
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  A lot of times I've just seen that they don't do that.
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  They kind of just give in and they go with whatever the higher ups say.
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  The government says this, do this.
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  Sure, I'm a police officer. I got to do what I got to do. I got to feed my family.
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  I got to do whatever that.
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  And it's when it's not always 100% right. So I know there is always this narrative
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  that black people are always being just punished by the white officers,
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  but that's not always the case. And I think people go a little bit too far on that.
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  There is some of that. There might be racial undertones about it,
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  but these guys, it's not just a flare up, a quick momentary reaction.
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  This guy, whoever's out there, has well thought this through.
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  He knows cameras are on him. And
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  he's given the order and he just punches through and he punches the guy.
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  I can't, I don't, I don't know why he punched the guy, why he went there.
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  Cause the, and that's why that officer has been let go. He's on leave right
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  now as they kind of, as they look into this and try to get a better idea of
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  what actually happened.
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  But there's so much going on here on, on all sides. And I, it does seem like
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  there was brutality here, at least by that guy, when the other officers pulling
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  them out, you know, you got to do what you got to do.
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  And these guys are putting their lives on the line all the time.
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  I mean, they're going up, and every day that they go out, it could be their last, you know?
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  And so, in any car that they walk up to, it could be their last.
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  So they always have to have this hypervigilance, and then it's like their emotions
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  probably get skyrocket whenever they're in the heat of it.
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  This just seemed like it's like you're given the order to punch through and
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  to pull the guy out, but it's like, why'd you have to punch the guy?
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  I mean, did he think that he was going to do something when he was punching through there?
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  He doesn't know exactly what's on the other side. So I get that.
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  But it's either way. I'm just I'm not I'm not I'm not on either side about just
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  like just like, oh, I'm 100 percent.
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  The police are always right. They're always doing the right thing,
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  which I I completely don't agree with that.
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  That is not is not it at all. And they will turn their back on,
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  on the whole fabric and society of life.
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  If it costs them their, their, their lifestyle of, of having a,
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  of being a police officer, of, of having power, of having a way to provide for their family.
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  They, I just, I, and it's not always the case.
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  Everybody's different. And it's not, it's not blanket all the cross,
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  but it seems like they will all, they will flip and they will go with whatever
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  the, the winds in the, the, we just saw. it in COVID.
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  We saw it in COVID that the officers were the quickest ones to just,
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  we're going to obey the state. We're going to do what the state says.
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  And we're going to just shut down everything.
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  Whereas it's like, really, was that absolutely necessary?
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  And, and they just, they, they're called to obey orders.
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  And I guess, I guess that's what they do. And that's their, their way of their
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  get out of jail free card that they were obeying.
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  We're obeying someone, you know, that it's just, it goes with any authority
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  position, you know, and anything can devolve into the, the best officers in the world can, can go,
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  their morals can completely be compromised if they just give into whatever the
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  current society and culture is and their higher ups are telling them.
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  So that I think, but we're going to find out more about this.
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  This is pretty wild. I mean, it seems like we're kind of, it's nonstop.
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  This is stuff is always happening.
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  So, but more stuff, more will come out. I'm sure.
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  All right. Follow me on X and Instagram and have a great day, everyone. Peace.