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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, February 25 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, February. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, Jaguars Happy
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Speaker 1: Hours powered by the Duval Motor Company and now the
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Speaker 1: only guy who could out eat Paul White, Jay Peace
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Speaker 1: Shad welcome in. That's probably true some days. This is
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Speaker 1: Jaguar's Happy Hour, presented by the Duval Motor Company. J P. Shadrick,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Logaman coming up. We have a busy show today,
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Speaker 1: starting off with a franchise tag window tag. You're it.
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Speaker 1: Nothing has happened yet. It opened on Tuesday. There's two
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Speaker 1: weeks worth of it. We'll see if the Jaguars have
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Speaker 1: anything in mind, their options at tight end or a
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Speaker 1: lack thereof they're not taking the option on effort. Will
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Speaker 1: take a look at that group a little bit more.
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Speaker 1: A lot of quarterback news or on the league as well.
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Speaker 1: In the last couple of hours we'll get to some
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Speaker 1: of the tweets there. Dan Edwards will join us in studio.
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Speaker 1: He's moved into two into a new role with the
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. Will get his thoughts on that and what
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Speaker 1: lies ahead, and we'll go around the National Football League
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Speaker 1: and Jeff Lockman joins us now from his home studio
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Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville Logs. Good afternoon, and here we are
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Speaker 1: again another week of Jaguars Happy Hour. What's up? Uh?
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Speaker 1: First off, you can outied who Who's that? Is that?
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Speaker 1: Again on the intro Joe, Oh, there's a new wrestler,
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Speaker 1: A w signed a new wrestler. Yes, the guy with
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Speaker 1: the was the big show. Yeah, I don't know, I
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Speaker 1: got you, I don't know. I mean there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of people are like me, okay that don't have any
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Speaker 1: idea who that is. And so we we need a
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Speaker 1: little we need to like, you know, lead the horse
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Speaker 1: to water kind of, so to speak. Now everyone is aware, Yes,
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Speaker 1: here we are the big guy. He fat, overweight. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he says he eats a lot, So I mean, what
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Speaker 1: what's the story he's he's like seven ft four fifty pounds. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's huge, yeah for real, like Andrea the Giant, Yes,
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Speaker 1: had the same condition. In fact, yes. Uh. By the way,
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Speaker 1: just there bovie or a TV series it's coming out
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Speaker 1: about Andrea. We're losing Jeff Flagman here, Will Uh, we're
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Speaker 1: cutting in and out a little bit with your logs.
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Speaker 1: Will try to get back with you in just a
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Speaker 1: minute and continue our discussion of Andre the Giant, and yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's gonna continue a long way here. We've
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Speaker 1: got a lot coming up on the show, a lot
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Speaker 1: going on around the NFL today in quarterback land, and
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Speaker 1: it is it feels kind of nice as the Jaguar
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Speaker 1: to not have to worry about any of this stuff. Right,
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Speaker 1: everybody's talking about all these big name quarterbacks that don't
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Speaker 1: want to play for a certain team. Deshaun Watson apparently
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Speaker 1: met with the Texans head coach last Friday, according to
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Speaker 1: Dan Graziano of ESPN, and in that meeting, Graziano tweeted
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Speaker 1: that Watson reiterated he wants to be traded and told
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Speaker 1: Collie that he has no intention of playing for the Texans. Again,
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Speaker 1: there's no change from Watson's end. And then on the
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Speaker 1: other side of the country, there's a lot going on
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Speaker 1: in Seattle these days as well, with Russell Wilson and
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Speaker 1: his desire to move forward and move on from the Seahawks.
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Speaker 1: A lot going on their logs, so a lot of
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Speaker 1: a lot of changes. But the all we do here
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville has put our feet up on this table,
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Speaker 1: kick back, relax and get ready for the NFL Draft
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Speaker 1: and the number one overall pick. That's a pretty good
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Speaker 1: feeling not to have to worry about any of this
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Speaker 1: stuff there. And we've lost logs against it, we were,
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Speaker 1: we're losing logs in and we'll try to get that
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Speaker 1: connection going again. Yeah, DeShawn Watson obviously once out. Russell
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Speaker 1: Wilson apparently was upset with the way a meeting went
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Speaker 1: during last season and his ideas of how the offense
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Speaker 1: could be fixed for Seattle. And apparently the report today
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Speaker 1: was that he stormed out of the room and that
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Speaker 1: we'll see. So that that's all nice that the Jags
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Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that number one pick is
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Speaker 1: in hand and secure and one of the great quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: in college football the last three years is available, and
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Speaker 1: and that's a good feeling because it hasn't happened like
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Speaker 1: that here in a long time. The Jags have kind
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Speaker 1: of been in that fray. They've they've drafted portals in
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Speaker 1: the top five. Obviously that didn't work out. They went
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Speaker 1: out and got a free agent quarterback and Nick Foles.
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Speaker 1: That didn't work out. We all know the story there.
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Speaker 1: But this feels much different. Did not have to worry
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Speaker 1: about all this stuff. That's that's happening right now in
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Speaker 1: the quarterback room. Trevor Lawrence's surgery went well apparently, and
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Speaker 1: there has been some social media photos of him his
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Speaker 1: arm in a sling as the recovery starts for the
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Speaker 1: Clemson University quarterback. So that's good news. At least the
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Speaker 1: beginning of the recovery will get underway. And as he
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Speaker 1: said at his pro day the other day, it's four
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Speaker 1: to six weeks until he can start throwing again. It
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Speaker 1: is the non throwing shoulder, but still you have to
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Speaker 1: kind of get things going there a few weeks in
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Speaker 1: and then it's five to six months or so before
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Speaker 1: he's full go. So that means he should be ready
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Speaker 1: for training camp. That's the good sign and the good
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Speaker 1: news for Trevor Lawrence. The franchise tag window is open.
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Speaker 1: It opened earlier this week. It's a two week window
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Speaker 1: and as we said on the Huddle Up podcast Wednesday
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Speaker 1: on the official Jaguars podcast network, the name most associated
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Speaker 1: with the franchise tag this time around and the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: organization at least as Cam Robinson. The number for left
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Speaker 1: tackles is fourteen and a half million dollars. The idea
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Speaker 1: from Bucky Brooks was Okay, maybe you pay him, give
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Speaker 1: him a year in this offense. See if this offense
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Speaker 1: plays a little closer. They were playing from behind a lot,
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Speaker 1: and then maybe you see how he plays. If he
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Speaker 1: plays well and performs at a high level, then you
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Speaker 1: renegotiate with him next year and sign him to a
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Speaker 1: longer term deal. Or if he doesn't, then it's one
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Speaker 1: year and you move on. That's one idea of it.
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Speaker 1: You could also just let him go to free agency.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure Cam wouldn't mind that, being one of the
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Speaker 1: top left tackles in the marketplace in this offseason. And
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Speaker 1: or you could just go sign him to a long
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Speaker 1: term deal. I would think no knowledge of this, but
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Speaker 1: I would think because of the new regime, a long
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Speaker 1: term deal. They haven't seen him in person except the
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Speaker 1: offensive line coach who is still here. Maybe tag him,
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Speaker 1: but they don't to do it today. They have the
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Speaker 1: window another week and a half or so to be
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Speaker 1: able to do that. Uh, And that that'll probably be
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Speaker 1: the one, um, you know that, that's probably the one
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Speaker 1: everybody's gonna look at in the next week and a half.
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Speaker 1: Everything else in the offensive line. As you heard urban
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Speaker 1: Meyer say, in a couple of the very few media
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Speaker 1: appearances he's done so far that they like where the
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Speaker 1: offensive line is. Otherwise, as we said, they kept the
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Speaker 1: offensive line coach around. I think there's a reason for that.
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Speaker 1: They've got big, veteran interior offensive lineman in the starting
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Speaker 1: roles there at center and the guards, and then a
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Speaker 1: young right tackle who might have taken a step back
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Speaker 1: last year. Overall, but there's a lot of bright future
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Speaker 1: ahead for Juwan Taylor, a right tackle, and then Cam
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Speaker 1: Robinson could be on the left side. So that's that's
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Speaker 1: an offensive line that a lot of folks criticized over
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and at times rightly so.
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Speaker 1: But in general, there's a feeling around here that they
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Speaker 1: have some good offensive lineman and we'll see if Cam
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Speaker 1: Robinson is among that group. Moving ahead, the Titans apparently
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Speaker 1: this is just breaking our releasing wide receiver wide receiver
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Speaker 1: Adam Humphreys. He's still fairly young. We'll see what his
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Speaker 1: market looks like coming up. And there's a lot of teams.
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Speaker 1: You know, if guys are free agents now J J.
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Speaker 1: Watt's out there right well, you can go sign guys
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Speaker 1: right now, but nobody knows what the salary cap is
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Speaker 1: going to be. They know the floor of it's a
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Speaker 1: eight million. It won't be any less than that. They
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Speaker 1: don't know how high it's going to be yet, and
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Speaker 1: that should come very soon, obviously, because free agency window
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Speaker 1: opens what three weeks or so from now, from yesterday
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Speaker 1: of March, So at some point in the coming days
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Speaker 1: week or so, you would think that an official number
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Speaker 1: will come out and then maybe teams will actually start
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Speaker 1: signing some of these guys that are on the street
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Speaker 1: right now. There were reports today of J. J. Watt
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Speaker 1: was expecting about fifteen or sixteen million dollars for one year,
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Speaker 1: but um, you know that the question will be is
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Speaker 1: that really the number Once once the market opens for business,
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Speaker 1: that could change a lot in the next week or two,
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Speaker 1: depending on what those numbers are. A lot to get
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Speaker 1: to today on Jaguars Happy Hour, we'll come back in
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Speaker 1: Jeff Logoman should be back with us, but also with
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Speaker 1: us now in studio the new Senior Vice President of
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Tradition and Alumni, the Great Dan Edwards. Dan, It's
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Speaker 1: good to see you. What's up. Thanks for swinging in here,
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Speaker 1: Christians coming around the corner and down the hall, coming
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Speaker 1: down to the studio. Now, if you're a Jaguar fan follower,
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Speaker 1: you probably know Edwards work, but he's not on camera
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Speaker 1: all the time, like he's behind the scenes. He's been
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Speaker 1: the senior rep of communications here really since day one,
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Speaker 1: since before day once. It's ninety four, right, that's when
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Speaker 1: you started here. You have June one, so you know
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Speaker 1: every bit of Jaguars history. You have been a piece
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Speaker 1: of every every bit of Jaguars at one time. I
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Speaker 1: knew it all. I you know, my memory fails me
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Speaker 1: sometimes now, but um yeah, I haven't having been here
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Speaker 1: through the whole ride. Um, it's been. It's been a
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Speaker 1: lot of good times. Logs. We were after can you
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Speaker 1: can everybody hear me? Okay? By the way, we've got
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Speaker 1: you logs? Yeah, can everybody hear me? Okay? Good? Good,
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Speaker 1: good good. I wanted to ask this question of Dan
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Speaker 1: because Dan is one of very few people that have
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Speaker 1: been with the organization from the very beginning, which Dan,
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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, but it's you, It's Mike Perkins.
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Speaker 1: And are there are there any other people that have
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Speaker 1: been with the organization from the very beginning? There's actually
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Speaker 1: six myself, Mike Perkins, you mentioned, Chris Driggers, A, Lisa Abbott, uh,
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Speaker 1: Tim Bischko, and Brian Sexton. There you go, There you go.
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Speaker 1: That's that's about it. Yeah, there's there's not many left.
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Speaker 1: You know. You started after this was announced yesterday. It
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Speaker 1: goes out on Twitter and then I'm getting responses and
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Speaker 1: from people I had no idea even followed me that
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Speaker 1: are around the league, in the PR departments and all this.
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Speaker 1: And we gotta show a photo here. Pat Handling from
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Speaker 1: the New York Giants, the VP of communications there, tweeted
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Speaker 1: a photo of you and him in nineteen eight seven
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Speaker 1: at Steelers training camp. You were with the Steelers, of
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Speaker 1: course before the Jaguars. Um I said they should put
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Speaker 1: this in the Hall of Fame. What a photo. That's
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Speaker 1: a that's a classic. And pat you know, was my
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Speaker 1: assistant with the Steelers for four years, and then he
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Speaker 1: was hired by the Patriots and then ultimately the New
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Speaker 1: York Giants, and to this day he's the Giants senior
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Speaker 1: vice president for communications and one of my best friends
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Speaker 1: in the business. You've been in this league. What's eighty four?
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Speaker 1: Was your first year? Was that Miami year? League office
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Speaker 1: before that? And then we got another tweet yesterday, Logs,
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Speaker 1: watch this from Joe Brown, who was a vice president
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Speaker 1: in the NFL office for fifty years. This guy was
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Speaker 1: in the league office forever, and said Dann Edwards and
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Speaker 1: Roger Goodell in the eighties were considered the top two
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Speaker 1: NFL league office interns. We lost track of Goodell's career,
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Speaker 1: but Edwards went on to be multitalented communications executive at
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Speaker 1: the Jags and equally valuable in the new role smart
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Speaker 1: moved by Shahid Khan. That's that's how I praise from
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Speaker 1: Joe Brown there. I know. Joe was my boss at
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Speaker 1: the League office in New York when I was an intern,
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Speaker 1: so he was he was my first boss in his business,
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Speaker 1: and UH, it's good to keep in touch with him.
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Speaker 1: Really cool. So new role, that's pretty cool. Uh, go ahead,
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Speaker 1: locks U. One of the one of the questions I
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Speaker 1: had said, you know a lot of people, Dan don't realize.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you and UH and your late wife have
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Speaker 1: raised an amazing family and the communications, I guess runs
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Speaker 1: in the blood, so to speak, because you have some
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Speaker 1: kids that are now on their own working in the league.
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Speaker 1: Tell people about that. Yeah, I clearly did a bad
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Speaker 1: job of parenting because I tried to talk him out
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Speaker 1: of this business. But my son, oldest son, Christian uh
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Speaker 1: is in the communications department for the Indianapolis Colts and
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Speaker 1: uh son Preston's in the communications department for the Carolina
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Speaker 1: Panthers and UH and they're both loving it and and
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Speaker 1: love the business. So yet it's, as I told Roger
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Speaker 1: Goodell one time, the NFL is our family business, no
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Speaker 1: doubt about that. Danny Edwards with us here on Jaguar's
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Let's get into this new role. Senior vice
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Speaker 1: president of Jacksonville, tradition and alumni. What will be your
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Speaker 1: day to day duties now in this department that's still
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Speaker 1: being created. This was this is a role that Mark
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Speaker 1: Lamping and I've been talking about this and and uh
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Speaker 1: we saw a need in a role, uh that that
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Speaker 1: could be filled. And as I told him, we've never
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Speaker 1: been great with our alumni relations. We've been okay, but
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Speaker 1: I think we can be better. We've got now some
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Speaker 1: more history to to to build and to um commemorate. Uh.
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Speaker 1: The NFL Legends Communities, a league wide program UM that
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Speaker 1: really helps support players in their post football career and
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Speaker 1: life and and so uh, this will really be my focus.
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Speaker 1: Those are kind of the three prongs UM in addition
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Speaker 1: to a lot of outreaching the community a lot of
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Speaker 1: That's why that title was kind of uh, kind of
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Speaker 1: strategic that the word Jacksonville is in it, because this
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Speaker 1: is really a focus on Jacksonville and connecting the franchise
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Speaker 1: with the city as it has been for the last
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Speaker 1: twenty five years. Maybe reconnecting in a lot of ways
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Speaker 1: um and and tradition rather than history, because tradition is
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Speaker 1: more commemorating the past. But looking forward, I think history
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Speaker 1: would be just a look at the past, and so
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Speaker 1: we wanted this to be kind of a a forward thinking,
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Speaker 1: forward looking role that would would again help us connect
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Speaker 1: our fan base, connect the community um and and become
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Speaker 1: a bigger part of of what's going on in Jacksonville. Wells,
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Speaker 1: you know this obviously better the most. There are a
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Speaker 1: lot of former players for the Jaguars that end up
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Speaker 1: staying in Jacksonville long term, and so there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of alumni guys around here every day. Yeah, there's not
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Speaker 1: only alumni players, but there's a lot of former coaches
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Speaker 1: that have decided to maintain Jacksonville as their home base.
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Speaker 1: And uh, I think that's an amazing thing. And Dan
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Speaker 1: could tell you probably more more names and faces than
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Speaker 1: I could. But that's the pretty cool thing about Jacksonville,
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Speaker 1: is it ever since that we we've been here since
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Speaker 1: the very beginning. Dan obviously was here in ninety four
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Speaker 1: before the team even played a football game, and and
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Speaker 1: I came in free agency and ninety five and have
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Speaker 1: been with the organization in some capacity through every year.
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Speaker 1: And so I've been fortunate to be able to meet
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Speaker 1: just virtually everybody that Dan has, and the number of
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Speaker 1: friendships that we've developed with players and coaches that have
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Speaker 1: decided to stay here in Jacksonville. It's just it's amazing
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Speaker 1: how big that number is and it's just going to
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Speaker 1: continue to grow because we live in such a great community. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's right, And I think that that says a lot
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Speaker 1: for the city in the community when when when guys
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Speaker 1: not only play their career here and stay, but you've
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Speaker 1: got guys like like Mark Brunella, Torno Bassally who went
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Speaker 1: on and finished their careers in other cities, but moved
20:13
Speaker 1: back here and move their families here. And I think
20:15
Speaker 1: that says a lot about the city, the community, what
20:18
Speaker 1: it has to offer. And again, we want to really
20:20
Speaker 1: uh connect with those players, with those alumni who were
20:22
Speaker 1: such an important part of our history. All right, Dan,
20:25
Speaker 1: you've been here from the start. We're gonna do a
20:27
Speaker 1: couple you know, historical tradition questions, not history traditional questions. Here,
20:34
Speaker 1: what is your favorite Jaguars on the field moment you've
20:39
Speaker 1: seen them all? It has to be the playoff win
20:44
Speaker 1: in Denver. I think a lot of people would say
20:46
Speaker 1: that's the high water mark, that's the best memory. That's um,
20:49
Speaker 1: it's hard to top that. I mean the only way
20:50
Speaker 1: to to top that would have two weeks later go
20:52
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. But that was such an upset,
20:55
Speaker 1: such a you know, such a monumental game, to beat
20:58
Speaker 1: the number one seed on their field. Uh, and to
21:01
Speaker 1: come back and and the team plane fly over the
21:04
Speaker 1: stadium and the pilot dipped the wings so you can
21:07
Speaker 1: see out the window and see whatever it was twenty
21:09
Speaker 1: five thou fans in the stands um waiting for the
21:12
Speaker 1: team to come back. That that was a wonderful memory. Yeah,
21:16
Speaker 1: like as you were part of that one. Yeah, yeah,
21:20
Speaker 1: And that was just I think a small piece of it.
21:22
Speaker 1: I mean, because you could go back to the Atlanta
21:25
Speaker 1: Falcons game and how tense we were, and it comes
21:27
Speaker 1: down to a kick that the Atlanta Falcons kicker Morton
21:29
Speaker 1: Anderson mss too going to Buffalo to face what has
21:34
Speaker 1: been a historically great football team and the Buffalo Bills
21:37
Speaker 1: and beating them, and uh, you know. And I think
21:40
Speaker 1: Dan brings up a point and that when you talk
21:43
Speaker 1: about the memories of ninety six and those are really
21:45
Speaker 1: at the forefront of your mind, some of those memories
21:48
Speaker 1: are about the connection with the fans, because you know,
21:50
Speaker 1: Dan will remember when we came back from Buffalo because
21:54
Speaker 1: nobody had anything planned. You know, after we beat Denver,
21:58
Speaker 1: you know, we flew over the stadium because they told
22:00
Speaker 1: people to go to the stadium because that was a
22:01
Speaker 1: reaction from the week before, because when we beat Buffalo,
22:05
Speaker 1: the people had mobbed Jacksonville International Airport and literally our
22:10
Speaker 1: buses were crawling at a snail's pace just to get
22:13
Speaker 1: back to the stadium so that we could go home. So, uh,
22:17
Speaker 1: that run of ninety six was magical and had a
22:19
Speaker 1: great connection to the community at that time. Yeah, Dann,
22:23
Speaker 1: we can get to that point again, right absolutely, and
22:26
Speaker 1: I think we will. And and that's something I think
22:28
Speaker 1: that you have to keep in mind. This this city
22:32
Speaker 1: really supports a team when it's winning, and they're waiting
22:35
Speaker 1: for us to win. They want us to win. That
22:36
Speaker 1: the stadium for so many years was full, and of
22:40
Speaker 1: course with with COVID now you can't have it full anyway.
22:42
Speaker 1: Hopefully we get back to those days soon. But I
22:45
Speaker 1: think what you're seeing right now, and shot Kan said,
22:47
Speaker 1: this is a transformational time in our franchise is history.
22:49
Speaker 1: To um have a new coach and and the first
22:52
Speaker 1: overall pick and free agency cap room and there's so
22:56
Speaker 1: much positive it's happening right now. I remember near the
22:58
Speaker 1: end of the season when we clinched that first overall pick,
23:01
Speaker 1: it became official ticket off. It's got a lot of
23:03
Speaker 1: calls and people putting down deposits for tickets at that
23:06
Speaker 1: point and not knowing anything more. So people want to
23:09
Speaker 1: support us, they want to have fun, they want to
23:12
Speaker 1: see a winner, they want to back it, they want
23:13
Speaker 1: to fill the stadium. So we've got to give them
23:15
Speaker 1: all the reasons to do that, and I think we'll
23:17
Speaker 1: get back there. Absolutely love it. Yeah, it's um. It's
23:19
Speaker 1: a good start this offseason for sure. Dan. We appreciate
23:23
Speaker 1: you and you brought me in here in twelve as
23:26
Speaker 1: part of your pr staff and a year later over
23:28
Speaker 1: to broadcasting and digital, which we didn't really have at
23:31
Speaker 1: that point we started it, and uh, I appreciate everything
23:34
Speaker 1: you've done for me. And you're not leaving. You're here,
23:36
Speaker 1: but you know, I'll see every day. But thank you
23:39
Speaker 1: very much. We appreciate my pleasure. It's it's been fun
23:41
Speaker 1: to watch you grow in your job and your career
23:43
Speaker 1: and and the whole group with Loggy and and uh,
23:46
Speaker 1: you know, we've really had fun. I think growing a
23:48
Speaker 1: broadcasting department and and moving to digital and all this.
23:52
Speaker 1: It's it's good to see how how it all develops
23:54
Speaker 1: and grows over time. I have a feeling we're gonna
23:56
Speaker 1: have Dan on a good bit on these shows coming up. Logs.
24:00
Speaker 1: Get ready to get your questions ready. I'll be available.
24:04
Speaker 1: Love it. I'm all for it. Love it Dan, great stuff,
24:08
Speaker 1: good to see it. Thank you. Thanks here. On Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Let's go into how it plays out. I think it's
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Speaker 1: think that nickis Sirio and the Texans are going to
28:10
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28:13
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some teams at off for up a lot, right,
28:16
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Speaker 1: and you know we we lost you a little bit
28:48
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, so let's get back to our
28:49
Speaker 1: quarterback discussion here. A lot of news today with the
28:52
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson and Russell Wilson both in the news, and
28:56
Speaker 1: it's nice to not have to worry about that when
28:59
Speaker 1: you have the number one pick in hand. Uh well,
29:04
Speaker 1: I mean you say that, JP, but the reality is too,
29:08
Speaker 1: is that if you're the Texans or if you're the Seahawks,
29:13
Speaker 1: even though your quarterback maybe a bit unhappy, you know
29:16
Speaker 1: how good of an NFL quarterback both of those guys are.
29:19
Speaker 1: So there's still a little bit of unknown will obviously
29:24
Speaker 1: you're draft pick Trevor Lawrence, which many people expected Jaguars
29:27
Speaker 1: to pick him. Will he be a an exceptional NFL
29:31
Speaker 1: quarterback back like those two guys. So the one thing
29:35
Speaker 1: that you although the you hope that he's a happy
29:37
Speaker 1: quarterback and he's happy with Jacksonville, unlike with Russell Wilson
29:40
Speaker 1: and DeShawn Watson. Right now, I think one of my
29:43
Speaker 1: point is you're not having to worry about trading draft
29:46
Speaker 1: equity to go get a guy and then pay him
29:48
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars and do all that. Yet like that,
29:51
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about that because at least
29:53
Speaker 1: you have this in hand. Yeah. I mean, look, everybody
29:58
Speaker 1: wants to have a quarterback who is really good and
30:02
Speaker 1: is on his rookie deal, like Patrick Mahomes has been,
30:05
Speaker 1: even though Patrick Mahomes has since gotten an extension that's
30:09
Speaker 1: going to tie him to the Chiefs for you know,
30:11
Speaker 1: decades to come, it seems like. But uh, yeah, there's
30:15
Speaker 1: no doubt it. It's certainly nice to have kind of
30:18
Speaker 1: the stability of knowing who your quarterback is going to
30:21
Speaker 1: be or you expect your quarterback to be, you know.
30:24
Speaker 1: But at the same token, uh, this year in the NFL,
30:28
Speaker 1: I think is unlike any other with what is going
30:30
Speaker 1: to essentially be or appears to be a quarterback married
30:34
Speaker 1: go around in the coming and the making, and there's
30:37
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks that are unhappy. There's a lot
30:39
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that are going to be changing teams, and
30:41
Speaker 1: it's going to be more change, maybe than any other
30:43
Speaker 1: year in NFL history. And you can essentially look at
30:47
Speaker 1: every quarterback in the National Football League and you can
30:49
Speaker 1: say that there's about seven or eight guys that are
30:52
Speaker 1: that are truly great franchise guys that are going nowhere
30:56
Speaker 1: there with their team. They're happy. But the rest of them,
31:00
Speaker 1: I mean, it could change. I mean, there's already been
31:02
Speaker 1: a couple of trades involved with the quarterbacks JP as
31:04
Speaker 1: we've seen, and I think that there's gonna be more coming.
31:07
Speaker 1: And listen to Steve White's talk about the issue with
31:10
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. I think Deshaun Watson is gonna get traded.
31:14
Speaker 1: I mean, Deshaun Watson is not the type of person
31:17
Speaker 1: that's gonna make a statement. And he doesn't make a
31:19
Speaker 1: statement publicly, but he's made it privately obviously the Texans.
31:23
Speaker 1: He's not gonna make a statement and then go back
31:24
Speaker 1: on his word. I mean, when when Deshaun Watson finally
31:27
Speaker 1: says something, Deshaun Watson means it, and the Texans are
31:31
Speaker 1: in such disarray and the Texans are in such disarray
31:35
Speaker 1: as far as they don't have cap room, they don't
31:38
Speaker 1: have draft equity, and if they can trade a quarterback
31:42
Speaker 1: and get a King's Ransom, because Deshaun Watson will brand
31:45
Speaker 1: King's Ransom to potentially improve multiple areas with your with
31:50
Speaker 1: your team, the Texans would be fools not to take that,
31:55
Speaker 1: And especially because of the possibility of the prospect of
31:58
Speaker 1: having to play a discrontal quarterback that never works. You can't.
32:02
Speaker 1: It's hard. You can't play with a quarterback who doesn't
32:06
Speaker 1: want to play for you, So you might as well
32:08
Speaker 1: cut bait, so to speak, and get whatever you can
32:11
Speaker 1: get for him. And I'm sure they're gonna get a
32:13
Speaker 1: lot for him, because it is. They don't really they
32:16
Speaker 1: don't have draft equity, high draft equity at all. They
32:18
Speaker 1: traded it all away, Remember they traded away. They traded
32:22
Speaker 1: it away, and and I don't know, I would assume
32:26
Speaker 1: that that's Bill O'Brien's fault because Bill O'Brien was the
32:29
Speaker 1: de facto general manager. He was when he was the
32:32
Speaker 1: head coach who was putting all these trades in place.
32:37
Speaker 1: That's right, he was the guy, and that was that
32:39
Speaker 1: wasn't just an interim tag. He was, he was everything
32:42
Speaker 1: Texans and the g M Bill O'Brien really hurt the
32:45
Speaker 1: head coach, Bill O'Brien down in Houston. It felt like
32:47
Speaker 1: with all this moves JP. That is why they rarely
32:53
Speaker 1: let because it takes a very unique talent because you know,
32:57
Speaker 1: a head coach and a general manager, you're trying to
33:00
Speaker 1: balance winning now for also being able to win in
33:03
Speaker 1: the future, and coaches can be sometimes very shortsighted. They
33:07
Speaker 1: want to trade the future way for this guy because
33:11
Speaker 1: we're a player away and if we could get that player,
33:13
Speaker 1: we can win, and and the general manager that has
33:17
Speaker 1: typically a longer range view, so sometimes having the two
33:22
Speaker 1: of them in one role doesn't work out. Now, there
33:24
Speaker 1: are some that have the ability to do that, like
33:26
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, who had done an amazing job with the
33:31
Speaker 1: New England Patriots, who was essentially the all powerful in
33:34
Speaker 1: New England, and he's been able to make great choices
33:37
Speaker 1: with the New England Patriots and created a dynasty. And
33:40
Speaker 1: some people will say, well, he created a dynasty because
33:43
Speaker 1: of Tom Brady, and I understand that logic as well,
33:46
Speaker 1: but there's a loss a lot of other areas that
33:48
Speaker 1: have to be executed that Bill Belichick was able to
33:50
Speaker 1: execute that. He's an extremely talented man and one of
33:54
Speaker 1: the few that can handle the job of general manager
33:57
Speaker 1: and head coach and so um, that's a it's a
34:00
Speaker 1: tough situation to be in. And right now, the perception
34:02
Speaker 1: of the Houston Texans with their situation with ownership, with
34:07
Speaker 1: their head coach, with their general manager, and with their
34:10
Speaker 1: life coach. Uh boy, there's a lot of questions with
34:14
Speaker 1: them certainly are Earlier in Jaguar's Happy Hour, we were
34:18
Speaker 1: discussing the franchise tag window opening and Cam Robinson has
34:23
Speaker 1: been the the most noteworthy name at least connected with
34:28
Speaker 1: that with the Jaguars this offseason. And you know, Urban
34:32
Speaker 1: Meyers said that they liked the offensive line as old
34:34
Speaker 1: it's not a tear down offensive line. Cam Robinson would
34:38
Speaker 1: be the piece. Though You've got to figure out what
34:40
Speaker 1: exactly you want to do the numbers fourteen and a
34:42
Speaker 1: half million dollars logs. Is it worth that to let
34:45
Speaker 1: him play in this offense for a season, see how
34:49
Speaker 1: he does if in theory the games are a little
34:51
Speaker 1: closer than not behind as much, um, and then if
34:54
Speaker 1: he plays well, then extend him or do you just
34:57
Speaker 1: go ahead and move on and draft a guy. If
34:59
Speaker 1: you really like a guy in the draft, maybe you
35:01
Speaker 1: go that route and just let him go to free agency.
35:06
Speaker 1: I think it's a great question, and I think if
35:08
Speaker 1: if you had and obviously this is a decision that's
35:11
Speaker 1: going to be made by the head coach and the
35:13
Speaker 1: general manager, and it's going to require obviously a lot
35:16
Speaker 1: of input from a lot of different people. But I
35:19
Speaker 1: think if you asked and pulled other general managers from
35:21
Speaker 1: around the league, you would probably be split. You would
35:24
Speaker 1: have some that thought, okay, just draft somebody and move on,
35:27
Speaker 1: and the other half might say, you know, we'll keep
35:30
Speaker 1: him on board. Some might say extend him to a
35:32
Speaker 1: long term contract. He's getting better, and there some would say,
35:36
Speaker 1: you know, keep him under the tag for a year
35:40
Speaker 1: and then evaluate where you're at after that year, and
35:42
Speaker 1: then you make a decision because you have cap rooms.
35:44
Speaker 1: So I mean, there's a lot of different ways that
35:46
Speaker 1: you can go, and I don't know if any one
35:48
Speaker 1: of them is the right way or any of them
35:50
Speaker 1: are the wrong way, but they're certainly gonna be room,
35:55
Speaker 1: so to speak, with the salary cap that you have
35:58
Speaker 1: a little room to say, let's be cautious here, let's
36:02
Speaker 1: go ahead and use a tag. And what that tag is,
36:05
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what you could use. Franchise tag,
36:08
Speaker 1: and there's different tags that you can use, but if
36:11
Speaker 1: you use a tag, it essentially buys you another year
36:14
Speaker 1: of value of evaluation. And I would totally be on
36:17
Speaker 1: board with that because I think that Cam got better
36:20
Speaker 1: this past year, and I think that, uh, he's got
36:24
Speaker 1: a great mental makeup, and he's a competitive guy. He's available,
36:28
Speaker 1: he's tough, he's physical. There's a lot of things to like,
36:32
Speaker 1: but you just got to see him get better. And
36:35
Speaker 1: so buying the extra year using a tag or whatever
36:39
Speaker 1: tag you choose to use, I think gives you a
36:42
Speaker 1: little leeway and a little bit of time to make
36:46
Speaker 1: a final decision down the road. I like that idea
36:49
Speaker 1: the best. And it's a one year situation, so you
36:52
Speaker 1: know he'll be locked in and ready to go, not
36:54
Speaker 1: that he isn't anyway, but you know it's a contract year.
36:56
Speaker 1: Last year and you could tell he came in in
36:59
Speaker 1: fantastic to camp and was ready to play right out
37:02
Speaker 1: of the gate last year. That's certainly be the case
37:04
Speaker 1: in a one year situation. You go play well, then
37:06
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the extension in the long deal. Well,
37:11
Speaker 1: and here's the other thing, uh, and that's gonna have
37:14
Speaker 1: to be factored in because if you use the tag,
37:17
Speaker 1: the amounts of the tag are factored off of last
37:21
Speaker 1: year's cap number. Is that realistic to use in one?
37:26
Speaker 1: Some may view that is not being realistic because since
37:29
Speaker 1: the cap is dropping, then using the tag at a
37:33
Speaker 1: cost of fourteen million dollars doesn't make economic sense because
37:37
Speaker 1: the market may say that if he goes to free agency,
37:40
Speaker 1: he's not going to garner fourteen million a year, you know.
37:43
Speaker 1: So I mean that that's what makes this year so
37:46
Speaker 1: unique and on on so many different levels, not for
37:48
Speaker 1: just Cam Robbinson, but for a lot of players around
37:51
Speaker 1: the National Football League, because when they finally compute the
37:55
Speaker 1: number with what the cap is going to be, there's
37:58
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that are gonna be cutting players
38:01
Speaker 1: to get under that number. And there's gonna be some
38:04
Speaker 1: players that are going to be cut that are not
38:07
Speaker 1: cut because they have an issue or they're a bad guy,
38:11
Speaker 1: or that there's some defect or flaw in his physical
38:14
Speaker 1: game or mental makeup or anything like that. It may
38:17
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with that, but purely economics, and
38:20
Speaker 1: so this year is unlike any other, and so there's
38:24
Speaker 1: a lot of things. I think they are going to
38:26
Speaker 1: factor into the decision making of what you decide to
38:28
Speaker 1: do with your own and what you decide to do
38:31
Speaker 1: in free agency. And if you have the cap room,
38:34
Speaker 1: which the Jaguars are going to have the cap room,
38:37
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great opportunity in the marketplace because
38:40
Speaker 1: you are one of the few teams in the National
38:42
Speaker 1: Football League that are gonna have money, and the players
38:45
Speaker 1: that are gonna be available aren't going to be players
38:47
Speaker 1: with issue necessarily. Some of them are going to be
38:50
Speaker 1: great players that the team loves, but that these can't
38:52
Speaker 1: keep them. You can't keep them at the number that
38:54
Speaker 1: they were at. And the Jaguars are gonna have some
38:57
Speaker 1: cap room to be able to improve their team in
38:59
Speaker 1: a quick fashion unlike any other year in the past.
39:02
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Speaker 1: shift our focus now to the tight end position. We
39:12
Speaker 1: touched on this in an earlier podcast this week as
39:15
Speaker 1: well with Bucky Brooks. Why is it so darned difficult
39:20
Speaker 1: to figure out the tight end position, and it feels
39:23
Speaker 1: like that around the league, but certainly here this has
39:26
Speaker 1: not been the easiest road. They've gone the free agency
39:29
Speaker 1: rout a couple of times, Julius Thomas, Austin's Verion Jenkins,
39:32
Speaker 1: those guys didn't work out. The draft picks either have
39:35
Speaker 1: been banged up or haven't played, or Josh Oliver hasn't played,
39:39
Speaker 1: so you haven't seen much out of him. There was
39:41
Speaker 1: a high expectation for him the last couple of years
39:43
Speaker 1: that just hasn't worked out. And now news Tyler Eiffort
39:47
Speaker 1: that the Jags apparently are not going to take the
39:49
Speaker 1: option according to the reports this week on Effort, who
39:52
Speaker 1: was a free agency edition last year, So the remaining
39:57
Speaker 1: tight ends on the roster here, you know, we're can
40:00
Speaker 1: at it on Jaguars dot com right now on video.
40:02
Speaker 1: Tyler Davis, who was a draft pick last year, two targets,
40:05
Speaker 1: no catches. Effort was the leading tight end receiver three
40:09
Speaker 1: nine yards a couple of touchdowns. Ben Ellefson had four targets,
40:12
Speaker 1: one catch. O'Shaughnessy coming back from the knee issue, twenty
40:17
Speaker 1: eight catches, two hundred and sixty two yards. Josh Oliver
40:19
Speaker 1: didn't play. Eric Sobert had four targets, So if you
40:22
Speaker 1: take away effort, it's really you're rethinking this room. At
40:27
Speaker 1: some point it feels like, well, yeah, possibly, and you know,
40:32
Speaker 1: you hope that Josh Oliver, which many people would say, Josh,
40:35
Speaker 1: who who's at? Where did he come from? People probably
40:38
Speaker 1: forgot about him because he hasn't played hardly any football
40:42
Speaker 1: in the first two years of the National Football League
40:44
Speaker 1: since being a and what was he a third or
40:46
Speaker 1: fourth round draft pick? Third round pick, third round nineteen? Yes, yeah, yeah,
40:52
Speaker 1: So I mean you hope he's able to stay healthy
40:54
Speaker 1: and and maybe show you something there. But now the
40:58
Speaker 1: reality is why is it so hard? And then that's
41:00
Speaker 1: the kind of the original question that you ask, why
41:02
Speaker 1: is it so hard for teams to solve the tight
41:04
Speaker 1: end position? Well, the fact is is that it's a
41:07
Speaker 1: it's a unique position because you're trying to acquire somebody
41:10
Speaker 1: that has a skill set that can do a lot
41:13
Speaker 1: of different things. One be a great receiver and be
41:16
Speaker 1: a matchup nightmare for defensive coordinators because they can block,
41:19
Speaker 1: and then also they can catch like a wide receiver.
41:22
Speaker 1: So you want somebody that can block alog alignment and
41:24
Speaker 1: can catch like a wide receiver. There in lies the
41:27
Speaker 1: issue with the matchup problem with the tight end, and
41:29
Speaker 1: they just don't make Kelsey's Travis Kelsey's every day. You know,
41:34
Speaker 1: he's a he's a unique talent. He's one of the
41:36
Speaker 1: best in the league. And so, first of all, it's
41:39
Speaker 1: hard to find the the athletes that do that, and
41:43
Speaker 1: when you do find them, they are certainly coveted. But
41:46
Speaker 1: I think this year you're gonna be able to find
41:48
Speaker 1: some in free agency because of the economic situation that
41:52
Speaker 1: I talked about earlier. The Tennessee Titans have a tight
41:56
Speaker 1: end who who I talked about early in the season
42:00
Speaker 1: in the matchup against the Tennessee Titans who I said
42:02
Speaker 1: that I thought he was one of the best young
42:04
Speaker 1: tight ends in football. And uh and I think he
42:07
Speaker 1: is one of the best young tight ends in football.
42:09
Speaker 1: And what is his name? JP? The guy for the tense,
42:14
Speaker 1: John H. Smith. He's got speed, he's got blocking ability,
42:18
Speaker 1: he's tenacious. He had some issues with injury, but when
42:22
Speaker 1: this guy is healthy, he is fantastic. And if he's
42:27
Speaker 1: a guy that's available in free agency, for me, I'm
42:31
Speaker 1: taking a strong look at him and and Tyler Eiffort.
42:34
Speaker 1: I don't know what the option is for as far
42:36
Speaker 1: as the dollar amount, but Tyler Eiffert I thought was
42:39
Speaker 1: good for the Jaguars this past year. But essentially, Tyler
42:43
Speaker 1: Eiffert has a history of injury. He's getting older. Now
42:47
Speaker 1: you need to find somebody that you're tight end that's young,
42:51
Speaker 1: that can create the matchup issues. Because the fact of
42:55
Speaker 1: the matter is that none of the tight ends that
42:58
Speaker 1: you had on your roster on that graph like that
43:00
Speaker 1: you just showed, none of those guys create a matchup
43:04
Speaker 1: issue for any defensive coordinator in the National Football League.
43:07
Speaker 1: And that's what you got to get out of the
43:09
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43:14
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47:23
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47:27
Speaker 1: such an integral part of the Jaguars organization. He's been
47:30
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47:33
Speaker 1: great professional friend of mine for many years. You know,
47:35
Speaker 1: when when I stopped playing for the Jaguars, which my
47:38
Speaker 1: last season was, and then in ninety nine, I started
47:42
Speaker 1: working with Dan because I started doing some of the
47:45
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48:13
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48:15
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48:25
Speaker 1: become great assets to the Jacksonville community and other communities
48:29
Speaker 1: that they choose to live in now. So Jacksonville has
48:32
Speaker 1: been very fortunate to have a man of the stature
48:35
Speaker 1: of Dan Edwards and uh and glad to say that
48:38
Speaker 1: are here that he's gonna be transitioning to a new
48:41
Speaker 1: role that will even create a lot more excitement with
48:44
Speaker 1: the veterans and and the alumni of the Jaguars and
48:47
Speaker 1: also interact with the community even more. Man, I can't
48:49
Speaker 1: wait for all that, no doubt. And it's great to
48:51
Speaker 1: hear from him and see him on on our cameras
48:54
Speaker 1: here and they were right around the office from each other.
48:56
Speaker 1: But it's not with the COVID this year. I didn't
48:58
Speaker 1: see a lot of them, and then you know that
49:01
Speaker 1: just that that's the way it was this year. But
49:03
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a lot a lot more
49:05
Speaker 1: Dan Edwards out and about in the community, doing speaking
49:08
Speaker 1: events and representing the team and doing a lot of things.
49:11
Speaker 1: So that's good news for the Jacksonville Jaguars for sure.
49:14
Speaker 1: Amy Palsick, he takes over as the vice president of Communications.
49:18
Speaker 1: She will report directly to urban Meyer and Trent and
49:21
Speaker 1: Bulky and she is in the building. She arrived yesterday
49:26
Speaker 1: and is here and is on duty. So at some
49:29
Speaker 1: point I think maybe we'll reach out and try to
49:32
Speaker 1: have her on here as well, just to introduce her
49:34
Speaker 1: to the Jacksonville market. She's been in this division obviously
49:37
Speaker 1: for a long time with Houston Texans and did a
49:40
Speaker 1: fantastic job there with that. They won the Roselle Award
49:43
Speaker 1: back in seventeen under her watch, and she was really responsible.
49:50
Speaker 1: J J. Watt was responsible. But she had a huge
49:52
Speaker 1: hand in the Hurricane Harvey efforts that j. J. Watt
49:55
Speaker 1: put together after that storm down in Houston, and she
49:59
Speaker 1: was run out of the organization part of that. So
50:02
Speaker 1: much change that's happened over there in the last few months,
50:05
Speaker 1: and pretty much unanimous. You're being very kind right there
50:10
Speaker 1: by the way, you're being very kind. You're being very
50:15
Speaker 1: kind about it. You know, she was run out of
50:17
Speaker 1: Houston essentially the the clown show that Houston has become
50:23
Speaker 1: fired Amy and made the statement that essentially that her values,
50:28
Speaker 1: you know, etcetera. Doesn't match with the Texans and they're
50:32
Speaker 1: going in a different direction. It just goes to show
50:35
Speaker 1: you how the Texans have become so dysfunctional when you
50:40
Speaker 1: let good people go, I mean, you go from winning
50:42
Speaker 1: the award one of the best pr staffs in the
50:45
Speaker 1: National Football League to be an ousted. How does that happen? Uh,
50:53
Speaker 1: if you really knew the details. Yeah, their loss is
50:57
Speaker 1: the Jaguars game though, and pretty much unanimous you around
51:00
Speaker 1: the NFL media landscape, this is is being praised and
51:04
Speaker 1: she has a track record of success. So that's good
51:07
Speaker 1: news for the Jacksonville Jaguars. We're looking forward to working
51:10
Speaker 1: with her. Let's go around the National Football League and yes,
51:15
Speaker 1: there have been some changes today in the NFL. Defensive
51:18
Speaker 1: tackle Darrell Casey released by the Broncos. That breeds up
51:21
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars against the cap with the Broncos in
51:25
Speaker 1: one He's thirty one years old. We know what he's
51:27
Speaker 1: done to this franchise when he was with the Titans.
51:30
Speaker 1: Would you take a shot at him? Well, I think
51:34
Speaker 1: he wanted want to find out where he's at and
51:36
Speaker 1: how his health is. Because when Darrell Casey has played
51:39
Speaker 1: the Jaguars over the years, he is is a donminant
51:42
Speaker 1: force and is one of those quick twitch guys at
51:45
Speaker 1: the three technique defensive tackle. The Jaguars certainly have a
51:49
Speaker 1: need at defensive tackle, so you would absolutely kick the
51:52
Speaker 1: tires and talked to Darrell Casey and his people to
51:56
Speaker 1: see where he's at health wise, because he is he's
52:00
Speaker 1: a good football player. JP. He can he can rush
52:02
Speaker 1: the passer from the inside that I'd just like to
52:04
Speaker 1: know more about his health. Adam Humphries waived by the
52:09
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, the wide receiver after two seasons with the club.
52:13
Speaker 1: There he had two years left on his four year
52:15
Speaker 1: deal and it clears up about four and at four
52:18
Speaker 1: and a half a million dollars of cap space, but
52:21
Speaker 1: some dead money left in that as well. Three catches
52:24
Speaker 1: two or twenty yards two touchdowns last year, but he
52:28
Speaker 1: was on the COVID list off and on all season long.
52:32
Speaker 1: What do you think about Adam Humphries, Well, I mean,
52:38
Speaker 1: I think he's a perfect example of what you're gonna
52:40
Speaker 1: see JP from other teams. You're gonna see some really
52:43
Speaker 1: good football players that are available. And the reality is
52:46
Speaker 1: is that a lot of teams are are looking at
52:49
Speaker 1: players not from the standpoint of productivity, but they're looking
52:53
Speaker 1: at him strictly as a numbers game and that they've
52:56
Speaker 1: got to find a way to get under the cap,
52:59
Speaker 1: and they're looking at the quickest way that they can
53:01
Speaker 1: do that in the least painful way that they can
53:03
Speaker 1: do that. So players that have um that represent a
53:07
Speaker 1: big savings from a cap standpoint, that don't aren't gonna
53:11
Speaker 1: represent or don't have a lot of dead money to
53:14
Speaker 1: hold against the team in the future, their candidates to
53:16
Speaker 1: be cut. And it has nothing to do with the
53:19
Speaker 1: quality of the player, just has to do with their
53:21
Speaker 1: number that's associated with the salary cap. So Adam Humphreys
53:25
Speaker 1: is a guy that you're absolutely gonna have a conversation with.
53:28
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of other players around the league
53:30
Speaker 1: that they are going to be in the same position
53:32
Speaker 1: that the Jaguars are going to have an opportunity to
53:34
Speaker 1: talk with. And a good thing is too. I think
53:37
Speaker 1: in this climate, in this market, you're gonna end up
53:40
Speaker 1: getting some really good deals in this market. Whenever they
53:44
Speaker 1: figure out what the cap number is actually going to be,
53:47
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these deals will start getting
53:49
Speaker 1: done and moving ahead. Just don't really know the full
53:53
Speaker 1: playing field right now in terms of numbers. John Lands
53:55
Speaker 1: to forty Liners GM has no doubt. He says that
53:58
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garop little star for the forty niners next year, well,
54:03
Speaker 1: he better start for the forty oiners, because when he does,
54:05
Speaker 1: they're really good. Logs. There twenty four and nine, including
54:09
Speaker 1: postseason games when Garoppolo starts, and there's seven and nineteen
54:13
Speaker 1: when he doesn't start since he's been traded over from
54:15
Speaker 1: New England. He better be there. I mean, look, what
54:20
Speaker 1: else is John Lynch is gonna say. I mean, he's
54:23
Speaker 1: gonna say that because right now that Garoppolo is his quarterback.
54:27
Speaker 1: And if all of a sudd Jimmy Garoppolo is gonna
54:30
Speaker 1: not be his quarterback, then John Lynch is gonna sing
54:33
Speaker 1: a different tuo. And it's kind of similar to what
54:36
Speaker 1: the Rams situation is, and that Sean McVeigh who was
54:40
Speaker 1: just gushing about, you know, coaching Jared Goff and being
54:44
Speaker 1: hitched together with Jared Goff for the for the future,
54:47
Speaker 1: and then boom, all of a sudden, you have a
54:51
Speaker 1: situation that's soured for Jared Golf with the Rams, and
54:54
Speaker 1: then he gets shipped off Matthew Stafford, and that trade
54:57
Speaker 1: is gonna get executed when the league calendar year star.
55:00
Speaker 1: So things can change rather quickly. And I don't put
55:03
Speaker 1: too much into what a general manager might say about
55:06
Speaker 1: his quarterback right now, because if all of a sudden,
55:10
Speaker 1: John Lynch can gain a Deshaun Watson and have it
55:16
Speaker 1: not cost him a whole bunch of money and ship
55:18
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo offted Houston, Texans. You know what John Lytz
55:22
Speaker 1: is gonna be saying, you know what, it was just
55:23
Speaker 1: too good to pass up. We you know, we couldn't
55:25
Speaker 1: turn it down to be able to get a player
55:28
Speaker 1: of the statue of Deshaun Watson. And for Jimmy Garoppolo goes,
55:32
Speaker 1: he's gonna be history, you know. So they'll hang tight
55:35
Speaker 1: on what all these guys are saying right now, because
55:38
Speaker 1: when the business starts, the business starts. J J. Watt
55:43
Speaker 1: still a free agent, and there's a report today that
55:46
Speaker 1: he has multiple contract offers. Diana Rossini of ESPN dot
55:51
Speaker 1: Com says that the most lucrative offer of what has
55:55
Speaker 1: on the table is believed to be worth between fifteen
55:58
Speaker 1: and sixteen million dollars. Well, it's interesting since there's no
56:03
Speaker 1: salary cap number yet. I'm curious if that will be
56:06
Speaker 1: the real deal and what it will be once it
56:08
Speaker 1: comes time to sign that piece of paper. Yeah, that
56:13
Speaker 1: sounds a little bit high to me. I think it
56:17
Speaker 1: maybe fifteen or sixteen million if he reaches a lot
56:21
Speaker 1: of incentives. But in my opinion, J. J. Watt is
56:24
Speaker 1: not worth fifteen or sixteen million dollars anymore if you
56:27
Speaker 1: look at his level of play the last couple of years. So,
56:31
Speaker 1: but I know that he can provide a great positive
56:34
Speaker 1: force for football team. But for me, if if I'm
56:38
Speaker 1: making the call, I don't think I'm getting fifteen million
56:41
Speaker 1: dollars worth out of J. J. Watt. So, and I
56:45
Speaker 1: think you know a lot of things when you when
56:46
Speaker 1: you hear a report like that JP. A lot of
56:49
Speaker 1: that is agent driven, where the agent is putting that
56:52
Speaker 1: information out to try to push the number up by
56:55
Speaker 1: all the other teams that are interested in his services. Oh,
57:00
Speaker 1: he knows that Jeff Logaman was about twenty years too
57:04
Speaker 1: late or so, it's a free agency five years or so. Everybody.
57:11
Speaker 1: Everybody's saying that JP the guy. The guys that were
57:14
Speaker 1: in the league when when I came in, we're saying
57:17
Speaker 1: the same thing, just like I was saying the same
57:20
Speaker 1: thing the guys that came in the league as I
57:22
Speaker 1: was leaving, like a Fred Taylor, And the amount of
57:24
Speaker 1: money that those guys could make and you know, the
57:26
Speaker 1: the the economics of the NFL has just grown exponentially,
57:31
Speaker 1: it seems like every year, and so the guys of
57:34
Speaker 1: today might be saying the same thing about the guys
57:38
Speaker 1: that entered the league, and you know, I mean said,
57:41
Speaker 1: that's just the way the league is. Growth has been
57:44
Speaker 1: and has been tremendous. So there you're having our look
57:47
Speaker 1: around the National Football League. And as we said the
57:50
Speaker 1: Jacks broadcast we can review podcast coming up tomorrow and
57:53
Speaker 1: then uh, maybe a relatively quiet weekend, and then we're
57:57
Speaker 1: on the next week, and the the next week the
58:01
Speaker 1: franchise tag window, and then we're coming up on a
58:04
Speaker 1: couple of weeks away from free agency. So here we go.
58:07
Speaker 1: This is really the calm before the storm logs of
58:10
Speaker 1: the off season really really beginning. Yeah, and then uh,
58:16
Speaker 1: and once you get to the start of the league
58:18
Speaker 1: year and free agency and then the build up to
58:20
Speaker 1: the draft, things kind of get get fast and hot.
58:23
Speaker 1: But I think it's also going to be interesting to
58:25
Speaker 1: see what the league ends up doing about the off season.
58:29
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be like it was last year where
58:31
Speaker 1: there really wasn't an off season, or are they going
58:33
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58:35
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58:38
Speaker 1: camp where they can gather in an institute a short
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Speaker 1: period of testing to keep players safe for a mini camp.
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Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be interesting exactly to see what happens.
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Speaker 1: But the amazing thing is the league adjusted last year
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Speaker 1: and proved that it can It can make things happen
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Speaker 1: without having all of those things. But for the jaguars sake,
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Speaker 1: with a rookie quarterback coming in, you hope that you
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Speaker 1: can have some of all season that is able to
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Speaker 1: happen post draft for a young quarterback that's coming into
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Speaker 1: the National Football League. That's where it's very difficult for
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Speaker 1: teams that that have a lot of youth, and then
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Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna have a lot of youth, and it
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Speaker 1: certainly didn't help them out last year, as you can
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Speaker 1: see by the results that they ended up having by
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Speaker 1: having all that youth that didn't pay any dividends for
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Speaker 1: the season. So you would like to have as many
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Speaker 1: opportunities at getting better prior to the start of training
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Speaker 1: camp and the season for a young roster and a
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Speaker 1: first time NFL head coach and Urban Meyer, lugs Well said,
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Speaker 1: have a great to you again next week or thanks
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Speaker 1: to Dan Edwards. I'm JP Shadrick and this is Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour of the Jaguars Digital Network.