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90 Day Fiancé Before the 90 Days Season 8 Episode 13 “Losing Altitude” with Rama Vallury · Vanity Farah with Chris Farah

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  Speaker 1: Hi there, Welcome back to Vanity Farah. I'm your host.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Chris Farah. See what I did there,
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  Speaker 1: made a whole podcast my name on it. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: super excited to talk to you today about one of
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  Speaker 1: our favorites, Nine at a Fiance. It's Before the ninety Days.
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  Speaker 1: It's season eight, episode thirteen, Losing Altitude. However, I have
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  Speaker 1: a very special guest who is a very good friend
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  Speaker 1: of mine, also a hilarious actor improviser. He is a
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  Speaker 1: brilliant voice actor you know, which is like so, which
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  Speaker 1: is awesome. So you're in the podcast world, it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: he's such such a great situation across the board. But
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  Speaker 1: then he reached out to me with a fervent fervor.
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  Speaker 1: He has a love a die or deep obsessive need
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  Speaker 1: to talk about this show. And that's why I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, Yeah, let's get Rama on because like
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  Speaker 1: we are, we're going to have a fucking great time.
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  Speaker 1: Please put your proverbial hands together for my guest, and
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  Speaker 1: you know a great mind, Rama Vowery. Hello, how are you.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Chris? I'm good. I will start off by saying,
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  Speaker 2: at no point in my life did I think I
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  Speaker 2: would be as into ninety Day Fiance or before the
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  Speaker 2: ninety Days as I am. I was brought into this
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  Speaker 2: by the discovery of Jenny and Simmith and was so
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  Speaker 2: fascinated by their whole arc that we kept looking. My
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  Speaker 2: wife and I kept looking at these other couples on it,
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  Speaker 2: hoping one of them would be the next Jenny and
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  Speaker 2: Simmoth that we get our attention, And we found them
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  Speaker 2: for different reasons. In Daniel and Lisa for every chaotic
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  Speaker 2: reason on earth. And I think it's because of you
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  Speaker 2: that I saw you sharing things from Vanity Farah or
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  Speaker 2: clips or memes related to these shows, and I had
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  Speaker 2: to find out what was going on, and boy did I.
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  Speaker 1: Ever I infected you.
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  Speaker 2: I can't tell you how excited I was to see
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  Speaker 2: this episode. It left me on such a cliffhanger in
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  Speaker 2: the previous episode with one of my favorite Lisa lines ever.
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  Speaker 2: I know, the previous episode started with her having a
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  Speaker 2: bowel movement in bed, and that was a surprise. No
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  Speaker 2: one expected an episode to start so strongly as that
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  Speaker 2: with going she poo on me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But by the end of it, my favorite favorite
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  Speaker 3: thing that she ever said, apart from It's been twenty
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  Speaker 3: one years since I've been with a man, which if
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  Speaker 3: it was a drinking game, you'd have to take a
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  Speaker 3: shot every time she says it's been twenty one years
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  Speaker 3: since I've been with a man.
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  Speaker 2: But this was after she tells Daniel that she's been
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  Speaker 2: married five times, but chose not to clarify that two
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  Speaker 2: of these marriages were to women, and he storms off, embarrassed, upset,
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  Speaker 2: feeling like he has to call his uncle because now
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  Speaker 2: he is slept with another man's wife, which he thinks.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't choose to clarify, but while she's heavily drinking
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  Speaker 2: what looks like barefoot wine and crying and says, I
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  Speaker 2: have to come clean. I have to come clean. He
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  Speaker 2: doesn't even know that she's a she, which he shouts
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  Speaker 2: that we were cheering because just this great moment of
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  Speaker 2: how long the two of them are stringing each other
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  Speaker 2: along for whatever, like you can't tell there's a joy
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  Speaker 2: in watching it going. There two scammers trying to scam
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  Speaker 2: each other, Yes for different reasons. Yes, and every decision
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  Speaker 2: they make is more unhinged than the previous one. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: And it felt like it flipped because at the beginning,
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  Speaker 2: like Daniel's going after her for a green card get
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  Speaker 2: out in Nigeria, this meal ticket with this very interesting
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  Speaker 2: person from King of Prussia, Pennsylvania, and she's seeking She's
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  Speaker 2: seeking love in whatever way is never enough and it's
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  Speaker 2: always going to implode. But the decisions she makes of
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell him the truth before i
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  Speaker 2: fly to Nigeria, telling her daughter, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: get engaged right away, lying all this money that she's
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  Speaker 2: spending and we already know she didn't have money, how
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  Speaker 2: much of it came from her friend, how much of
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  Speaker 2: it is just kind of going into Hawk, buying him jewelry,
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  Speaker 2: buying him clothes, staying at that hotel, getting another room,
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  Speaker 2: and then what happens in this episode, there's just more
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  Speaker 2: money that gets spent that I don't know where where
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  Speaker 2: it came from, and it was just the cliffhanger of
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  Speaker 2: ending on. He doesn't know that she's a she to
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  Speaker 2: have to wait a week to find out is she
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  Speaker 2: actually going to tell him because she keeps saying I
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  Speaker 2: have to tell him, I have to come clean. I
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  Speaker 2: have to come clean, but at the same time tells
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  Speaker 2: her daughter, I can't tell him. I can't tell him,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna lose him. The go Well, how are they
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  Speaker 2: gonna play it in this episode, because it feels like
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  Speaker 2: it's the main event. They're definitely not gonna tell me
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  Speaker 2: right at the beginning, how do you tee this up? Hi?
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  Speaker 2: I will say this they tea Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They teed it up? Is you brought up so many
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  Speaker 1: good points? I want to say some things. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: for someone who doesn't have money, she's you're right, spend
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  Speaker 1: a lot of money. Not only that, rama, she's dressed
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  Speaker 1: very well for someone on this show. Look at this
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  Speaker 1: two piece in this look at this rockin very cute
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  Speaker 1: two piece said that she's wearing And I'm saying that
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  Speaker 1: because she has you think that she might be a
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  Speaker 1: little basic. She just can't you could think that she
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't dress well by the way Laura wishes she would
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  Speaker 1: dress like Lisa. And I mean that Lisa's style like
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  Speaker 1: is good, like it almost feels like someone what and
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  Speaker 1: she spent money on these clothes, like okay, So that's
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  Speaker 1: just one. I just have to get that just like it,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I want to give her also grace where
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  Speaker 1: there is some and she you know, is cute. She
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  Speaker 1: dresses cute. Yeah, like she said the grossest thing. It's
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  Speaker 1: like awkward for me to say in front of you,
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  Speaker 1: but my gross line. Okay, yeah, that's that's when she
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  Speaker 1: said that line about accommodating him. You don't understand. That's
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  Speaker 1: where my mind like died. I just was like, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like that was You're p big for me.
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  Speaker 1: She said it for me specifically, Like the thing about
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  Speaker 1: her is yet she will just say something very clearly
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  Speaker 1: and it's like just breaks your brain.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the thought going into her mind of starting off
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  Speaker 2: with I'm upset with you about last night because it
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  Speaker 2: didn't go the way that I wanted and you wanted
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  Speaker 2: to go to bed, but we made up for it
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  Speaker 2: this morning, and then going into detail about physically accommodating him. Uh. I.
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  Speaker 2: We were repeating that line for days just because it
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  Speaker 2: was so so funny and so out of pocket. And
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  Speaker 2: I know that there was some line producer on this
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  Speaker 2: show who right after they wrapped, was shooting with them
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  Speaker 2: that they jumped on a call to the head of
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  Speaker 2: production and said, you are gonna love this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm to raise, give me a raise, Give me a
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  Speaker 1: raise right now. And I'm telling you, like Sony contract
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  Speaker 1: next ten years. You're gonna love me. But yeah, this is.
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  Speaker 2: This will go viral in all of the circles you
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  Speaker 2: don't expect, because that's honestly, that's like how it got me? Like,
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  Speaker 2: how is it getting people who are sports fans and
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  Speaker 2: do voices and cartoons until you see someone who's basically
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  Speaker 2: like drawn together that that old fake reality animated show
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  Speaker 2: that was on Comedy Central, Say, how is it someone
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  Speaker 2: who could plausibly be a cast member on that be
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  Speaker 2: a real person, that this wasn't an event, this is
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  Speaker 2: actually someone's real thoughts. And I usually would go into
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  Speaker 2: these things not wanting to engage in that schodenfreude of
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  Speaker 2: knowing they have. There are reasons why people are on
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  Speaker 2: this show. People are lonely, people are looking for love.
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  Speaker 2: You're finding very strange places, yes, But for these two specifically,
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  Speaker 2: not only are their mutual mode of suspect from the beginning,
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  Speaker 2: they also chose to be on this show. They invited
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  Speaker 2: the cameras into it, and some of the couples you
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  Speaker 2: kind of feel people playing it up for the camera.
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  Speaker 2: I honestly don't know that the two of them register
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  Speaker 2: the cameras are in even there at any point as
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  Speaker 2: even if you think about it, that like the ePK
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  Speaker 2: packages where they do the glamour shot before the segment
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  Speaker 2: where they dolly in on them, and it starts off like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: they're hugging each other and smiling and looking like they're
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  Speaker 2: in love. Every episode it gets more and more unhinged.
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  Speaker 2: The distance between them is greater. They both look miserable,
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  Speaker 2: and I wonder, as someone who's worked in production, did
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  Speaker 2: they plan in advance, Okay, we're just gonna shoot a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of these, you're really in love, you're having a
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  Speaker 2: great time. Maybe the strip isn't going the way that
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  Speaker 2: you want to. You hate each other, you want him
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  Speaker 2: to go to prison, you never want to see each
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  Speaker 2: other again. Did they bank all of that at the
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  Speaker 2: beginning just in case they needed it, or as things
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  Speaker 2: became more unhinged that they say, hey, we've got five minutes,
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  Speaker 2: can you two, while you're at your angriest, just stand
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  Speaker 2: here and be as disgusted with each other as you are.
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  Speaker 2: Because they make me laugh every single time. The first
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  Speaker 2: couple episodes, yeah, it felt like they were repeating some
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  Speaker 2: of it. But then yeah, that face, that face, the
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  Speaker 2: face of this his brain breaks, so when they do
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  Speaker 2: those glamour shots of them, like, well, well, did you
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  Speaker 2: want to leave the show already? But you both are
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  Speaker 2: too far in the red on this, and you know
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  Speaker 2: that there's potential money after the fact, or there's some
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  Speaker 2: notoriety because if I go, if I'm in the hospital
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  Speaker 2: in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania and my nurse turns out
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  Speaker 2: to be her, I would have so many questions. First,
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  Speaker 2: when was the last time you washed your hands? Do
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  Speaker 2: you have gloves? Did you get back here? How's Daniel?
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen your daughter?
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  Speaker 1: Faith would again question.
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  Speaker 2: Are you still in each other's lives? Because I know
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  Speaker 2: I feel horrible for her because she looked like she
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: doesn't want anything to do with with this, the latest
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  Speaker 2: and a long line of schemes that her mom has
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  Speaker 2: had that she has dealt with the fallout of. Feel
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  Speaker 2: terrible for her and knowing that she doesn't want to
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  Speaker 2: even participate in this. She doesn't want to entertain this.
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  Speaker 2: She's hoping that it doesn't work out for her mom's sanity,
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: and just for society sanity, but for our enjoyment. Currently
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  Speaker 2: it's just this this madness that those NDAs must be
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  Speaker 2: real strong for the people who work on this show.
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  Speaker 2: Because if I, if I knew I'd be, I'd have
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  Speaker 2: my own diary, just writing every day, well today Daniel
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  Speaker 2: and Lisa did this and that and this, and I
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  Speaker 2: would think that I was making it up. I would
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  Speaker 2: feel like I was in a fever.
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  Speaker 1: Dream the whole I like love. I feel like they
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  Speaker 1: are such a huge celestial star couple of like the
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  Speaker 1: past seasons, like they are a huge deal. Their things
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: are going vil, there are a big deal, and they
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: are just unabashedly you know themselves, Like she is this
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: and she has been like talking, you know afterwards about
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: you know, whether she got evicted or how she feels
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: about that, and Faith has had statements and then Lisa's
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: ex wife has come out. Have you seen that too?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, No, I mean it's a whole thing.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: She's huge. It's a big, guess deal. So obviously, as
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  Speaker 1: we know, they pick up on the fact that she's
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: told him just the first part. They at the producers
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: ask her, like, how are you feeling. She's like hungover,
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  Speaker 1: We're like hungover. She's like I couldn't sleep, she was
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: up boring. She had gotten another room, and then she
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  Speaker 1: had texted him that she loves him and all of that,
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  Speaker 1: but he has not texted her back. And she was
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: supposed to, however, take him somewhere and oh no, here's
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: like the rub, Like, oh no, this feels a little fake,
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: but whatever, God bless it's that she has for some
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: reason just went and back into her picky bank and
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: brought out of her five dollars and booked some extra
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: special romantifications. They always do this where they.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: Have three hours, yes hours away.
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  Speaker 1: She saw something online and was like click, Okay, that's
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: what we're supposed to believe. And then she puts on
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: like a prairie dress and a smoky eye and this
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  Speaker 1: red flat shoe. Honey, it's like a little prairie flat.
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  Speaker 1: It's like when I see it, I don't know, like
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  Speaker 1: it really did something to me. I feel like I
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: was just like I took a picture of it for
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: some reason didn't upload it immediately, and you're like, why
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  Speaker 1: would you not do that. I'm like, don't even worry
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 2: It's like vision board for It's funny.
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  Speaker 1: Because I was like I took a picture ofmediately and
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  Speaker 1: I was like so excited about it, and then I
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  Speaker 1: was like I wonder if this is gonna come back,
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  Speaker 1: this one red shoe, and you know what it does,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so okay, let it anyway. But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: So then they cut to him and he's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: she was fucking drunk last night. She got wasted. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I guess yes, And he was like, and I was
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: didn't go to bed till five am because I was
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: up crying. And we're like, all right, Daniel.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: You were up crying. I And the fact that she
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: actually was drunk this time, and he didn't do one
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  Speaker 2: of these are you drunk?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: Are you sleeping? Oh, which was a big thing when
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: he had her try the palm wine. One sip, he's
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: like waving his hand in front of her face, are
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: you drunk? But this time, when she's definitely drunk, he's
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: so done with her that she's sitting in the back
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  Speaker 2: of the van. He's sitting in the middle bench of
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  Speaker 2: the van. When she says he's getting a different room,
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  Speaker 2: he's just sitting on his phone on the couch and
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  Speaker 2: he's got a sweet deal. He didn't pay for this hotel.
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  Speaker 2: She's paid for this hotel. She's going to get another room.
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  Speaker 2: It isn't him going to stay with friends of his
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  Speaker 2: and legos, or calling his uncle or going anywhere, which
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  Speaker 2: reasonably you'd think if I'm really done with this woman,
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  Speaker 2: I would leave. I would take my things and go.
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  Speaker 2: But instead he's like, I'm going to stay here in
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  Speaker 2: this nice hotel room because she's my what God's gift, as.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: He said, ancestors. Yeah, like there are a lot of
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: things happening. It's like his mom had a premonition that
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: a white woman would save him. Also, the ancestors from
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: that man that we be first man in the very beginning,
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: and then his uncle and now the king. All of
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: them are even three different men channeling ancestors being like
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: this one like all of that, You're right, he's staying
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: in that room and getting the free tea, which I get.
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  Speaker 1: The tea looked great. And then so they meet up
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  Speaker 1: and she's like, look, Daniel, I went and I paid
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: this money already and I can't get the money back.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: And Daniel's like, I'm hearing free vacation and she's like, yeah,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: you know, yes, you are hearing that. So then they
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: go and he's like, before we go to so, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I have to tell my uncle about the whole situation.
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  Speaker 1: She doesn't want him to tell him. She's like, why
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: can't this be s because girl, you're like not married
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  Speaker 1: to like someone from that culture, like you to stab
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: him to marry someone from an anig boom man, Honey,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: anig boom man is who you married. But yeah, like
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: she's like, it's like putting a scarlet letter on me.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I think she put that on herself many times over,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: because every explanation of her past becomes more fascinating. How
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: she explained the genesis of every relationship that she had.
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  Speaker 2: Of my first husband and then it didn't work and
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  Speaker 2: I left him, and then my second husband, Fate's dead,
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  Speaker 2: was my best friend, and yeah, then we just we
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: decided not to anymore. I left him, and then there
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: was another man, and there was the two wives, and
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: then I haven't been with my ex wife for nine years.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: We've been separated, haven't haven't had a word from her
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: in nine years. But somehow I also have the divorce
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: papers which I do sign and need faith to go
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: file hopefully so it goes through before I landed Legos,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't have to tell him. Oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: I'm still married, which that I felt like that kind
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: of got dropped. It never got mentioned again, the status
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: of the paperwork. But she's still confident that she is married.
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  Speaker 2: She is still married and has to tell him and
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  Speaker 2: his brain explodes, I've slept with another man's wife. That
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  Speaker 2: whole moment was just the moment that breaks the scammer
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  Speaker 2: of even within his world, there is a certain morality,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: a certain code that he follows. I know, and it
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: may be not enough because he's stayed there, and he says,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: it's because I love you with all my heart. I
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: love you. I want to make this work. Do you
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: do you though, because every every time to this, the
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: moments of his definite rage bubbling under the surface, and
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: his control issues and traditional gender role things that maybe
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: coming up there. It's like, I need you to become
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: this ideal ebo wife. You have to learn how to
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: make him taking her to like an Airbnb cooking class
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: that they're supposed to take together and he just stands
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: there watching her learn how to make oha soup and
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: he doesn't participate, and she keeps saying, like, Daniel, book
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  Speaker 2: this cooking class for us, there's no us in it.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: He's not doing anything. You don't pick anything up well,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: and he picked picked up the soup. And I do
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: have to point out I've I've seen a lot of
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of kissing in stage on screen, and.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your professional opinion, Yes, I need really about and
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I'll give it. In like Fairly Brothers kind of movies
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: like Jim Carrey and Dumb and Dumber will do like
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: lick the side of a woman's face or something, and
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: none of that is as disgusting as how these two kiss.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: It's like neither of them have ever kissed before, and
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: they're trying to swallow each other's souls and lead with
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: the tongue. It's like they're licking all around the face
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: then just vacuuming. It's like attaching a hoover to the
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: to the mouth and and then just keep going. And
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: the sounds of it. It got to a point I've
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: had to look away, Like when we see them leaning in,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I can't, I cannot see this, Like, oh no, I
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: don't think I'm strong enough to watch this. Yeah, because
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever seen anything like it.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: It's a unique, unique way to show to show affection
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: in any phylum of our ecosystem. I've never seen two
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: creatures go at each other the way that these two do. Yes,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: in that way, maybe they are made for each other because.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: It's him though, Like here's the thing. She's just there
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and she's a willing participant that wants to be devoured.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Which I think this is what. I think she mentioned
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: this once. I think that he knew that one time
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: when they were texting, he had used the word devoured,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I want to devour you or something like that, and
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: so I think that she was like, oh, that's that
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, And so I think that he
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: got validated that like upon meeting this white woman who
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: was going to like ancestrallies whatever, like for phil Mom's promise,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: he was going to like really lean into like that
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: that expectation because he he is the one going tongue
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: open mouth first, like she's not like like she's just
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: kind of like there, and then he is just unhinging
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: his jaw and someone just taking her in like a
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: like a mouse, like a snake with a little baby mouse.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they're trying to become one one person physically, Yeah, exactly,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: just not two spirits or two souls joining pupil. It's
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: like an anaconda, just anaka. Don't yeah, no, I love it. No,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: that's great.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: No, you know, I you know, did me mention that
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: we did this great play together that was like very
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: fun And we did a like hilarious kind of Monty
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Python esque retelling of King Lear together, And.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: So it was a musical comedy about King Lear at
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: the same and King James. Oh, okay, we're back.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I think it's it's it's okay.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: So it was we were in the show together called
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Delirious by Ron West, doctor Ron West and his collaborator
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Phil Swan, And it's a musical within a musical about
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: first level, a musical version of King Lear that's very
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Melbrooks Monty Python. The level above that is it's Shakespeare
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: and King James writing the King James Bible and King
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Lear at the same time while Shakespeare is going through
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: domestic problems at home with Anne Hathaway on the same
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: level you see in Hamnet this year.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: And then the third level of the same story.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the third level of the show is Ron as
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: a character a parody of himself, writing the show with
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Phil and auditioning actresses for the show and all of
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: these storylines collide. It was so all of us were
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: playing multiple characters within it. And that's where I met you.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: And you got to play this very big harlequin character
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: and got to dance and sing, and as usual, I
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: got to play like a cad, like a coward, a
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: cad someone who has status and talks too fast. But
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I got to do these big like Donald O'Connor, gott
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: to laugh or make them laugh from singing in the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: rain kind of numbers in it. And that was with
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: the Open Fifth Theater loved it. I still have what
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: the poster that I made with all the quotes on
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: it that I gave everybody over here somewhere. So we
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: met there and since then, I got to see your
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: One woman show at the Hollywood Fringe two years ago,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I think two seasons ago, and tremendous, absolutely tremendous. It
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: was like this show but live on stage, in your
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: own world, the telling of your life and your experiences.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: That was charming and hilarious and really you connected with
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: it on an emotional and special level. And I know
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: that that the festival organizers, especially Bruno who Bruno Oliver
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: at the Broadwater at Sacred Fools. He was raving about
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: it before he even knew that you and I were friends.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: He and I were having a drink at the Broadwater Plunge.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: He's like, you know what you need to go see?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: You need to go see the show that's the actress
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Chris Fara has on, Like, oh, Chris is my friend. Oh,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I was already gonna go. So it was a very
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: well well thought of show. And you did a tremendous,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: tremendous job.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: That's incredibly kind. You're so you've been You're always so lovely.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I had so much one of the lyrics wed it's
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: such a fun cast. We have these memories of we
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: would just go like hang out outside like during breaks,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: like there's this long part. Yeah, there's this long part.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: We would just always be back there, and I always
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: felt like some sort of like high school or like
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: cool kid that was like after school did they get
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: hangout like in this parking lot area until we had
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to run around for different entrances and stuff like that. Okay,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: let me ask you. Okay, back at Fringe, when did
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you Where did you meet your wife? Though? Like was
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: it at Fringe?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: No, we met years before that. I was doing a
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: show out here in LA that was very much like
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Tony and Tina's wedding that that kind of thing is
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: a live show called Indian Wedding that two friends of mine,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I'm at the Dhali Wall and Neil Dndani ran s
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: in the SEC also had worked on it before she left,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: and they basically had Every show was at the sun Geeth,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: which is the reception you have before your wedding. It's
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: like an night where family and friends get to do performances,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: sing songs, do dances and all this in honor of
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the couple it's about to get married. So we did
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: that show every month once a month for three and
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: a half years, I think, and I was in all
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: but soon shows. And it just happened that one of
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the times I was doing the show, and this was
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: when we were at the Three Clubs over on Santami Life,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: and I was doing a bit where I was the
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: cousin brother of the groom who was basically his closest
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: sibling though he's his cousin. But just before this got divorced,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: which is a big stigma. You don't want the divorced
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: person speaking on your behalf before the wedding. You could
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: put like the evil eye on it. You don't want that,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: but they asked me to do that, So I made
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: it into a character and musical number where I promised
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I was going to sing this song in honor of
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: their love. But I keep starting to play it and
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I interrupted because I have to keep explaining myself of
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: what's going on. And everything that I was saying was
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: this emotional dump about my now ex wife who cheated
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: on me with a white guy who looks like Chris
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Martin from Coldplay. No, every joke in it was a
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: partition joke. It was. It was an Indian independence nineteen
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: forty eight joke about my home basically being torn apart
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: by a British Man. God, I just say it was like, yeah, no,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I'm totally fine. I'm not thinking about it, not even
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: a little bit. So then I The song that I
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: played on the guitar was from this movie called Kabelna
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: that came out early two thousands, and it was like
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: the Bollywood version of the movie Closer with Natalie Portman,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Clive Owen and that group that was about infidelity. But
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: it's a Bollywood movie about infidelity. So I sang this
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: big song in it, which is a sung just basically
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: like I can't believe what's happening. I'm yours in your mind.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: That's being sung by two people who are cheating on
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: their spouses with each other. And I was singing that
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: song because I was like, oh, it's a really pretty song,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: but also I'm singing a song about infidelity. We'll talk
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: about how I'm totally okay after my wife cheated on me.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: And I played it sincerely that at the end of it,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I wrote in that I start crying on the final
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: bit of it because it's just I thought it would
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: be a really really funny way to be a blow
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: to this, but everyone in the audience just went, oh,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: they really felt bad for me by the end.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I wish I saw it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the recording of it somewhere, But it
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: just happened that that night. She was there with a
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: mutual friend of ours, and she was with somebody at
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: the time. We met there, became friends, then met each
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: other again and again at these South Asian actor mixer
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: events around town that friends of ours were putting together,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: and we just we were friends for three years before
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: we ever decided to try dating because that they wanted
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: she had to break up with that that all the
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: relationship had to end. I wasn't gonna do anything anyway,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: and just time, I guess, we just became friends and
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: it just became this natural progression of we were friends
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: and willing to risk it to figure out if it
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: would be something else. Unfortunately it worked out, so I
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: don't have to find out what would have happened if
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: it didn't work out, because we're married now.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: So, but it was like the the thing that people
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: were friends of ours were trying to make it happen
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: by saying, like suggesting that I was madly in love
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: with her when I was just friends with her. Did
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: like her, but I didn't go around telling everybody, oh
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: my god, I'm badly in love with her. Can you
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: help me? Because that's insane. But that was definitely something
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: she as she pointed out, like she knew I liked
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: her well before I ever admitted it to her, which
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: is fair.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Like women tend to know that I love that for her.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very lucky. We're married now, we have two dogs,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: and she's delightful. And she was in the same fringe
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: yer as you doing her show, which was The Yoni
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Verse Show, which was a South Asian women's version of
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: The Vagina Monologues, but they wrote all of their own
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: stories and presented it as a woven narrative with Chaya
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Kumar and Tanya Thomas, and they won like every award.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you talked about my show, and
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: that show sweeps so hard and it was so amazing.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: It was a beautiful My show that I was in
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Leime Millennia, which is a pop punk musical parody of
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: le Miz by Kelly Lindyangelo and a La Glass. We
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: were nominated for things, but we knew we were going
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: to Edinburgh. Yeah, anyway, we were just basically testing it here.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: We got nominated for a few things. Yeah, we got
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: nominated for a few things, didn't win anything here, and
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: then when we went to Edinburgh, we sold out the
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: whole run. I think it was ninety nine point four
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: percent of all seats sold out. And it was great
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: because I was the only visible minority in the group,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Like they could look at me and go like, oh,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: the brown guy walking around with a bendy avocado man
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: necklace on. So I just walk around Edinburgh and these
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: people would come up to me and go, hey, you're
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: from that cheeky avocado show. We're going to see it tight,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: So it's a good right. I would check every morning
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: and know that, hey, if we sold forty one tickets
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: at by nine am, the show was going to sell
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: out by seven pm. So I went, yeah, you don't
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: have the aggressively busk. I think we're we're good.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Good, then you can enjoy your life there because obviously
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: you know not to light jump around and we'll go
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: back to the show. But yeah, like once you if
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: you do the show there, there's so much involved and
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: you want to see people's shows, but then to also
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: have to get people to see your show and have
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: that pressure, it's just it is a lot like if
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: you're performing too, like Kelly's sleeping and you're like traveling.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: It's just, you know, it was a lot. And like
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: to Kelly's credit, she was handing out flyers almost every
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: day under the statue of Adam Smith, which in itself
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: is hilarious when you're doing a musical about people with
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: student loan and medical debt under the statue of the
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: man who is the father of capitalism, going like, well,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: it's his fault. We're here. And I meanwhile was going
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: like business to business, and we'd been there enough that
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: they started recognizing me coming into these places like the
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Tempting Tatty. If you ever go to Edinburgh, go get
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: baked potatoes from the Tempting Tatty.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Tempting Tatty.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's great. So we went there and
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: they would just get to know us and be like, oh, okay,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: what show are you doing. And the more they saw
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: you like, oh, you're not just here doing the fringe,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: try to put flyers up. You're here, you're buying our products,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: You're you want to buy a bit of kit, you
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: want to do this. You actually are learning about us.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: It's like that. That was nice. So there's even like
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: street artists over there that I'm still in touch with.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: You know, just like the Americans you have if you're American,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: you go abroad either to find your fiance or to
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: do art, listen, mingle and be and buy things and
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: be a part of the infrastructure. Don't just not just you,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: but obviously don't just judge the food around you is
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: being weird and not want to like, you know, you
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: see a lot of that on the American stuff, but
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: hell are yeah, this isn't it's been pretty good, like
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Lisa has been, except for when she got sick and
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: she couldn't try anything. Like she's been pretty i mean
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: accommoding for culture. Let's get back though, because she wants
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: to talk with the spider. So then she gets to
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: the space, she sees a spider. Honey, that spider is
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: not her friend, and she doesn't want to deal with it,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: and Daniel doesn't want to deal with her, and you
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: can tell because all he would have to do is
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: just fucking get the spider and get it out of there.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: But he doesn't want to like have to like really work,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and he's kind of upset.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: That just show level of participation for this. He definitely
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to be there, but he does want the
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: free vacation.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: And he sees a tiny spider. It's not to him,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: it's not a big deal. She's terrified of she's a
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: raachnophobic suddenly, so he knocks it down from the ceiling
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: and she goes into a panic. Kill it, kill it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: He tells her, no, you kill it. It's like you
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: paid for this, it's your room, you kill it.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: It's like, no, you're here for free, you kill it? No, literally,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I paid for this and all you have to do
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: your payment is killing it. I don't understand why that's
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: like the thing like she won't put her foot down,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: especially on the spider, until she does. She's the one
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: that actually literally puts her foot down and kills the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: spider with that red shoe, And it makes it upset
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: that she's like, literally, all you have to do is
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: now get rid of the spider. He's acting like he
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: said yes to a free vacation and but he will
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: not go to the timeshare meeting. You know what I'm saying.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so let's move on because I don't
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: believe we actually have something moreubble my love. Okay, So
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Laura and beer Khan so, oh my god, he love
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: honey mountains. And then they make a bunch of boob
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: jokes boob mountain mountain boos, like yeah, sometimes he's it's
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: so funny that she's like he's so deep, but also
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: he's someone who's like boom boom.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: The their age difference was very very clear on this episode.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I think more than anything from the from the boob
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: jokes to just his suspicions about her friend. It's like
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: he's coming, he's coming to check on me and to
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: see if this is good. Like that was the one
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: time I really listened to him and went okay, but
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: kind of understand where you're coming from on this, that
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: this male friend who has been a little too involved
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: is going to drop everything and fly to Turkey just
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: to see if you're okay with me. And you think
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: that he's got no interests, This is very It seems
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: clear that yes, he does have an interest in her.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: And she's allowing it. That's what he said, and I agree,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: and she's allowing it. So if we don't, if we
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: break up, it's not his fault, it's her fault for
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: allowing it. And the truth is yes, like I agree.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing. So they are having their little
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: day trip because you know, it's a whole thing for
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: them to go on separate trips after already their day
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: trip in the ancient ruins. By the way, it looks
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: absolutely beautiful. Yeah, those marbles from three thousand years ago.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: They're at a place called Effius uh Ephesus.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very very well maintained and beautiful historical site. The
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: idea is like, there was a bit where well when
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: she was explaining that her friend was going to come in,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: and they were sitting in that little isolated area, and
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: there was this guy in like a Hawaiian shirt in
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: the background, out of focus, who kind of popped in
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: through this archway behind her. Who's it turns out he's
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: another tourist. I thought for a second it was her friend.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I thought I thought that he was just gonna walk up.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: She's like, he's coming to visit. Oh, by the way,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: here he is. And I was a little sad that
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: it wasn't, but the suggestion in my mind that it
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: could have been it was so rich.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: That would have been great. I'm sorry that's a missed
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: opportunity because you're right. Instead of instead we get this
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: a phone call being like oh hi, uh so obviously
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: she tells, you know, beer Kan two things. I actually
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: don't know if I'm talked about the fact that, yes,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Lisa finally tells Daniel that like it's a woman. Daniel
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: loses his goddamn mind, and then Daniel like, you know,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a thick of got her or whatever. Okay,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: so because I loved okay, so, but with this situation,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: she's like, Michael's coming and he's like, well, as I said,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: that's shitty, and if I'm going to be in a
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: pissed off mood, and he is pouting, pouting, pat in
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the entire time, as you say. And he shows up
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: not like you would have enjoyed, but in this way
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: where he calls and is like, yeah, I'm here, but
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: my hotel is I'm ready yet? And it's like, yeah,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that's what happens when you come at ten am. You know,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: no one expects. So then she's like, can I come over?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: And she's like yeah. So then he comes over and
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: he comes over with what I can only describe is
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: ned Flanders energy. He's like, yeah, I guess if anyone
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: be happy to see him.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: The only thing that was missing on his head was
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: that Disneyland hat which like Goofy's nose on it with
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: the dangling ears, like he should have been wearing that
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: in a fanny pack. Because he just bursts in and
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: gives her a hug, and I swear his eyes were
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: focused straight on Bitercoun on the couch. It's like he's
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: walked in and he's like this, hugging her. Oh yeah,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm here. I can't believe you're here. Beer,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: just just staring forward watching Scarface, the whole thing of yeah,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: you can come over here to where we are.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: But I'm not question for you. Do you like violence?
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: We just think about what the f would you do?
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I'd be like a man who doesn't blink, who's talking
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: to in a whisper, watching Scarface. The vape in his
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: hand turns so slowly anywhere you go? Do you like
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: the American classics? No? I like Wolence? Do you like Wiolence?
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: If he says yes, does does Betercon get up and
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: go like, all right, let's fight? Or is it just
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: the posturing there, the need to feel like an alpha
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: in your own home because this own home. Yeah, but
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: in the play in yours, in your space, like the
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: space that he's in gets invaded by Yeah, somebody else
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: bought for him.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. It's just like and he's the
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: whole time, He's like, I could be gambling right now.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I know He's like, I that that was wild. I
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: really want Michael to have a full outfit kind of moment,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: like I want Michael to like find a part of
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: him and then just like.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: I I like to go to a wine tasting again,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: because the wine tasting they went on after being in
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: a fesis or and he's just slamming shots of wine.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: She's like, you're not tasting it, You're not enjoying it.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: It's like, I'm miserable. It's like the idea of like,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take Michael to a wine tasting now,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: and the two of them just staring each other down
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: taking shots of Merleau would be so funny to see,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: like a wine drunk bum fight on the streets of
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Turkey over over her.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Like, who did have your money on? Who you have?
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: You're gambling? Have you are gambling?
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: If you are a beer con, are you putting your
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: beer conning on beer con?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Or are you they're on? Such a terrible gambler, he's
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: so bad at it.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a good fight her, No.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I think I think that he talks a big game
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: and maybe maybe he'll win a fight against a man
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: who clearly looks like he can't defend himself. But with
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: enough drinks in him, all it takes is one ill
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: timed haymaker that Michael just ducks and he's down on
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: the ground.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: He just lands on his face and knocks himself out.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: I think that's the more likely ending for him, is
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: he tries to get into a fight, tries to act tough,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: tries to be scarface, and he knocks himself out. I
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: think that's what's in his future.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I listen, I agree. I also think that Elise. I
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: also think that I'm looking at my nose. I also
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: definitely think that Laura is going to have two men
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: fighting over her, which is probably like what her biggest
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: fantasy is, besides being a princess in some sort of
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: like castle and have some guy push her against a
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: wall and make out with her as a distraction.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Exactly like slammer into the wall.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I mean that's what she wants. I mean, that's what
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: she wants. I think it's not me, it's her. Okay,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: So let's move on a lease and Josh and Chris,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: let's just be honest. Chris, Uh, this is so crazy.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: So obviously they're leaving the airport. They have to go
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: to the Melbourne Cup, the biggest event in Sydney, which
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it's not some people in the bredit forms were like,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: this is crazy. They're just going to a place to
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: watch event that's being filmed somewhere else. On the video,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: the dress is skimpy as hell. I'm like, Howard, ho
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: does anything even stay? I didn't understand is there tape.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Any of her clothes on there? I'm like, how do
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: you pack it? How do you wear it? No Wonder
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: you're saying I'm cold when she said that she wasn't
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: wearing any underwear, and the car is so low to
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: the ground, like you clearly didn't plan for Chris to
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: be there. But also this line of we said we
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: were going to take it slow and not have sex
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: right away, Hey, doubtful, doubtful if you're going around with
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: No wonderwear on, and you're definitely they're both possible and
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: peacocking for each other, but the third element of his
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: best friend being his best friend and roommate being there
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: for the whole thing has major thropple energy.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Major I have thought about this now, I think that
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: they both definitely want to f her. This is Chris.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: This is Chris, not Josh. This is Chris staring at her,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I mean with like eyes that is like you know.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that hungry women women.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: As we said, women know when people like them, and yeah, listen,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is my theory and you can
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: give me your professional theory too, and obviously you have
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: you know your guy, so you can like tell me.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: But this is what I think. I think that Chris
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: is the alpha. I think Josh is his beta friend.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: And I think that like you know, as they're just
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: like two drunk guys women around Australia. They're like, look,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: who's I'm talking to the tall American? Look at her picture.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: She's hot as hell, like Instagram and everything is like that.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: So Chris is like, yeah, yeah, I think the current.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I think that Chris and him sort of think that
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: she's like Josh's pet, but also like Chris can like
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: get in there, and I think that Chris really is
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: like that's yeah, like you can't say no, we're both
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: staying there. Like I really think it's like a full
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: ploy to get her to be like in a throble
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: with them, and I think that Chris wants her to
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: be with him is as much as Josh, if not
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: making is like manipulating Josh to try and get I
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: mean like that this energy is intense for me, this
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: is intense energy. Even the woman, the even woman behind
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: him is like, oh my god, I can feel this
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: guy's intense stare from the back of his head.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: You can get a restraining order for less than anything
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: that that he was. The fact that there's a painting
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I get, a subtle oil portrait of him that is
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: hanging in the bedroom is so disturbing to me that
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: if you think about, is there any friend of yours
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: whose portrait you would hang in your bedroom, even as
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: a joke or even just leading into no, and then
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: go like, well, if it was like that energy of
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: if it is gonna be anyone, obviously would be him,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Like maybe it's you, Maybe you should be the one
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: in the painting that's in your room or adjacent to
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: your room, not this guy, but him, also going like
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I just I bet an easy thousand. I always win
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: the Melbourne Cup. Nope, I just lost a thousand. Let's
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: go to the bar. Herb coming on a plane from
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Miami and all the visa stuff getting denied before she
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: gets there, to getting there, to putting on this ridiculous outfit,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: to hanging in a bar and then having to go
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: home with both of them anyway, and just that every
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: bit of the energy of it from the extreme bachelor
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: pad that they live in too. And I was on
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: her side a little bit. She had very simple requests
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: like I need a steamer, I need pillows, say things
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: like that, or like can there'd be space in the
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: closet for me, very reasonable requests that he could have
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: accommodated for the beginning, and that they didn't. But I
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: I would be I would want to lock on that
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: door because if I'm trying not to sleep with either
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: of them, well just right away, just be like, okay,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: after meeting him, after meeting Chris, I would want to
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: bar the door, just to just to be sure that
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: this wolf isn't prowling just the doorknob away, but.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Truly things, because I wonder, like Chris is hot, you know,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: like and Lisa is you know, I wonder if what
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Alisa wants, sorry, what Elise wants, because I'm not one
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: hundred percent sure, Like, you know, I don't understand why
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Josh would be so much more attractive than Chris. Like
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: they both just seem like two peas in a pod,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: and you know, like it's a pod. They can't afford
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: all the time, you know so, but okay, so basically, yeah,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: you as you said, he had lost and you know,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: now she's just at their place and there's not enough towels,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: and you know that there's one towel and they both
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: wipe their whole bodies with them, and so it's already
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: damp and left there and they're expecting her to use
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: that towel. And when she said only more towels, I
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my god. Number When he was like,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: she gave me a list of things and I brought
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: the goldfish, I was.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, the whole time while she was on that flight,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: you could just go down the road and pick up
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: a couple of towels, bath and beyond. It could have
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: done just even the minimum. And it speaks to his
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: beta energy a bit. But I feel like Chris is
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: really good at negging. I feel like his game must
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: be he negs really really hard. So the two of them,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: on any given day, she might like the energy from
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: one versus the other. It's so strange now that they're
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: all in the same place, but it's like reality Dynamite
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: put them in a little two bedroom apartment with a
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: tiny bathroom and one towel and let's see.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: What happens one pillow, one towel. Yeah, I'm excited. I
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: like her a little like cheeky good Night. I mean,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot of sexual attention and
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know where it's going to happen first, but
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I know Chris is a part of it. I just
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: can't fucking wait.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Probably next episode mm hmm.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I've been waiting for them those whole time, so we
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: better like come in and come in hard. I mean,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: can you believe that we just got them? But we
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: have Rick and Trish is like a couple that I
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: almost can't even talk about anymore because he's so gross.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: But he's obviously apprehensive and hesitating to meet her family
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: because he knows he's like no good piece of trash
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't want to have any more kids, and
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: she wants kids and she's beautiful and young, and he's
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: like put upon her, projected all of his insecurities and
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: jealousy and saying she has done things when in fact
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: he does, and then he comes clean and he's gross,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: and for some reason, she's still with him, and I
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: wish that she would not be.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: What do you think I wanted him to. I think
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: I said it out loud a few times watching it,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: it's like, man, just get back to La. Just get
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: on that plane and go home. This is not going
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: from remotely the way that you think it's going or should.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: And also just at fifty two, he might be as
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: old as her father. When when he meets her father,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: and if there's one thing her fifty something, your old
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: father will smell, it's his desperation that he's a coward.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Because how many times did he did? He say like,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: are you sure you want me to meet them? Are
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: you sure? Like? Am I the man you want them
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: to meet? He's asking for permission to be dumped?
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, And she picked up on it. She was like, yeah,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: why do you keep asking? I've already said though I.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Already said it like and for her it's like, well,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: I already told them you're here, so.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: They're expecting you believe me. They don't know times Yeah,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: yeah they know.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: And it's annoying that he keep asking, And maybe I
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: don't want you to be the guy anymore. But also
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: it's easier for me to explain why it didn't work
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: out once they meet you, because there's it's just it's terrible.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: They shouldn't be anywhere near each other.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: No, he's so horrible and gross. And then something else
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: happens that's annoying, which is something happens off camera, and
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: that had happened earlier where they had gotten in a
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: fight off camera, but they referenced this thing where he's like, yeah,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: and you're just constantly bringing up your ex and we're like,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: we are you talking about and he's like, well, yeah, because
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: we were walking on the beach and then looked over
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: that restaurant. You were like, I like that restaurant. The
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: reason why I know I like it is because I
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: went there once with my ex and I was like,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: shut up about you were actually bringing above all the time.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: The restaurant's stupid, The restaurant's dumb. Tell me the restaurant's
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: domb And you were like, She's like, I like the
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: food at the rest I like the restaurant.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: It's totally fine to like a place that you went
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: to with your ex. They they have You didn't make
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: the restaurant.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Restaurant. It isn't like the cooking from his family.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: You know. It was like, you're dating Paris Hilton. You
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: break up with her, and then now you're like, well,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: you know what, maybe I don't want to stay in
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: a in a Hilton anymore. This is just some place. Yeah, her,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: her shut up energy is tremendous. I wanted to say
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: that with her. I did every time He's like, I
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: don't want to hear about your ex anymore. I don't
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: want to hear it anymore.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Shut up, you weird? Oh go back to selling hair.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: So yeah, basically, then guess what, they get to go
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: on another plane ride. So yeah, like they get to
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: go on a plane ride. It's very silent. They self
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: plan filament. They won't even talk to each other. They're
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: going to get to the parents that he's going to rip.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: His backpack buckled all the way up at the top,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: like a little kid who's afraid the bully's gonna pull.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Him from the back danceport.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like JanSport clip that nobody ever uses, but he did.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: And he's not a small guy. Just exaggerates how oh yeah,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: oh no, it's it is.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Literally a flex. Oh no, okay, well, thank you for
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: thank you. So this is my favorite thing, and I'm
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now this is my favorite part.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: This is my thing. Emma has given us a whole situation,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: and then in this this episode alone, I'm gonna tell
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: her that she gets what she wants and that someone
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: falls in love with her, and that person's an Arab
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: person and that person's me. I love her so much.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: In this episode, I will bury her like I never
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: loved her as much. I was like, oh, I think
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: that she was funny or whatever, but for some reason,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: every face she gave me and every moment was great.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Let's start, she's doing a confessional and then Mohammed calls
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: and the producers like who's calling? And then she goes
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: like this, don't be mad. Some reason that will be
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: because it was like who you're acting like? This producer
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: is like you're like big sis and a sorority, Like
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: what do you mean? Doing like that? Already made me
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: so happy. I was like, don't be mad. And then
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: she's like Mohammed and like yeah, she tells us this
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: whole story and like look at her, like I love
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: every one of these faces. He picks up a drink
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: and then she smirks and gives like an eye like
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: look what I fucking did for you guys, for your producers.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: By the way talk about a raise. You think you
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: deserve a raise, I deserve a raise. And I literally
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: am like, oh my god, this is where I was like,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Emma should be on Single Life. I want to see
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: her on Hunt for Love. I absolutely want to see
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: her like have power and you like being it because
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I absolutely love her now for ae hundred percent reason.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: So she basically still shows up a bunch of a
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: bunch of texts, right, She's like.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: I love holding up the WhatsApp feed to it. Yeah,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: I message feed like you're not gonna believe where I am.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Omg hahahaa.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Yes. So the first one, I'm gonna put a zayad right,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: so she was like hot zayaed and iiety was like
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I hate myself because I was with a girl like
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: you lie and everything it's bad. You had name Emma
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Angelina Rodmon. And then okay, so she's like, you don't
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: care that I'm a girl here all on the country,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: that I'm not from all the sau you have not
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: a girl. You're a monster. I'm a monster for what
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: telling you the truth? And so like she's like fuck you.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: But then different App so okay, God blessed Differ Napp
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: the Mohammed comes up.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Guess it is what's at the university?
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Guess?
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Or I am okay, hope you have fun?
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah that part Morocco, Lol, okay, lol, hope you have fun.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: And then this is eleven thirty four, so you're like, okay,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: that's not an inventation. Sometime later eleven fifty five, where
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: are you now, Marrakesh? But I would rather be here
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: with you? Why what happened? And then honey, that's when
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: he fucking calls her? And I mean, I'm so excited
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: for her. Guess who's not excited for her? Maddie. She
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: calls her friend Maddie. I'm like, who's Maddie? I never
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: heard of Maddy? Where's your sister? Why don't you call
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: your sister? I feels like your sister, your twin sister
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: should be like in a phone call right now? Was
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: she busy? What's happening? They both have the jobs. And
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: this is also an lol funny thing. And I hate
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: to say this, but this is true. And I've listen,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Emma's gotten a lot of work done. But Emma looks
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: at her friend on a FaceTime and she's like, can
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: you tell I'm sad? In my eyes.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: I couldn't. No, I could. I could tell that her
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: wigs seemed like it was slipping, but I couldn't tell
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: that there's a single emotion going on in there. It's
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: like the oh my god, I'm so exhausted.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, but then she ries. Then she's like, she's like,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I'm can you tell I'm sad in my eyes? I
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: wasn't so, but then she like, it's.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: One of those I have really long nails, and my
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: crying is I'm going to touch where a tear would
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: be because it covers my eyes so I can squint
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: like this and it looks like I'm crying. I don't.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: I couldn't tell if there were any actual tears there.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: But I love the commitment. It was incredible.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I love her, you know, like I think that she's
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: so great. She like you know, had gotten you know,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: another riod right away, and she had these like you
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: know guys you know bring her stuff for in for her,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: you know, which was nice. I do I keep putting
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: them up, you know? Anyway. I love that. I but
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: then yes, so Maddie says this, and I thought it
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: was really good best friend energy. She says, you're a catch.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: It for him to act like you're a gremlin, it's crazy.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: You're a catch. It for him to act like a gremlin,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: You're sorry, you're a catch. And for him to act
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: like you're a gremlin, it's crazy. And it's like, yeah,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: he acted like she's a gremlin is so funny. It's
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: also such a reference. I'm like, you guys are so
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: young for that reference.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. That reference also is like gremlins are
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: that's fun Like to me, I was like, ah, I
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: like gremlins. Oh wait, you mean it in a bad way.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: You don't mean in like gizmo way.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: They're the ones that you put water on and they die, right, yeah,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: just like the Wicked Witch of you know, but not
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: really and or depending on if the water works or not,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: you know, for that, for that one, they.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Become monsters if you put water on that. It's great.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Everybody should go watch Gremlins, Dante's Finest.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Maddie says, So she basically obviously is like, guess what
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna hang out with Mohammed, And Maddie's like, Mohammed
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: was just as bad, be done with him and Morocco.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: And then Maddie says, are you going there for closure
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: or to rekindle the relationship and engagement. Now, I mean
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: that is first of all, you know the answer, Maddie.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: You are know the answer. And even if this girl
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: with that wig is going to be like closure, blink blink,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: we all know it's not closure, and there's not going
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: to be a time that never has to happen.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: There are too many episodes left in this season, and
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: she hasn't gotten on a plane back. There's gonna be
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: a lot, whether it's with Mohammed is somebody else. She's
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: not leaving Morocco without another situation coming up.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: My favorite part is then also Maddie starts to cry.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Maddie's like, I'm just I don't want it to be hurt,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: and then Emma has to comfort her, who's upset about
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: the decisions she's making, Like, I just like it blew
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: my mind. I was like, don't worry Maddie about me
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: ruining my life. I don't you know, You're just like,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: it's so funny to me. I I loved it.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: It was I by the end of it, I want
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: like you were like you're saying, she's she's angling for
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: her own show. I think she'll get it, she'll be
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: on another one. I have no idea which way it's
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: going to go for her for these the rest of
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: this season, but I'm I'm honestly fascinated for when they
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: get to the reunion special of who's going to be
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: on that TV? All of them? All of them?
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: And I want I want even Zayad's friend. Remember how
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: the z I like the Chris version of Zion, Yes,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: friend that was also obsessed with, like I want am
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: I want everyone to come back. I'm so happy with her.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Thank you monitors right behind her head.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, it'll be I want a peanut gallery a little uh,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I want it all. That's the end of the episode.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Let me just say this, obviously, I love you so much.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being on this. Do you
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: do you? Yeah? I want you to come back. What
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: do we talk about? Javon and oh no, but they
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: were oh my god, oh my god, Analine, I'm so sorry.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Wait I meto. I hope her Cat's okay, meet it
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: with a cone? Honey. Well, let me get this. First
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: of all, I totally forgot this. But then I'm so
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: sorry I had to skipped over them because I wanted
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: to get Rick and Trisha out of the wingsthing like them,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I forgot to go back. Okay. So Anneline's mom is
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: the cutest woman. I love her so much. Look at
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: these circle glasses, look at those beautiful eyebrows, look at
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: that supple skin, and look at her just saying broken promises, honey,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: because that's what she knows and that's what she wants
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: to call out. She's like, I will cook for you food.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: But like, at the same time, you're going to answer
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: this goddamn question, is what are you going to do
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: with my daughter who's been waiting for you? And just
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: you think you're going to be here two weeks and
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: gross be a man yours?
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, seven years that they were. Yes, this has been
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: going on. And when she said that he didn't even
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: apply for the spousal visa, my heartbroke. He doesn't. This
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: is the first time he's gone to the Philippines in
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: the whole time, Like, what are you what exactly are
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: you doing? And what are you in this for? Like
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: the messes he leaves around the house, like his clothes
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: on the ground and he's just sitting there on his phone.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: She's doing laundry, taking care of all this, He's just
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: laying there on his phone. And what I loved was
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: when he tries to say, I've been working so hard
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: doing all like putting an extra being super romantic. You
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: took her to a pedicure, but you clowned on the
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: business the moment you walked in. Nobody asked you to
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: comment on the decor. And they had like these ladies
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: who had accessorized everything in shades of pick. It worked
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: real hard to get those outfits to match the wall
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: and everything to be that that kind of Barbie dreamhouse.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Vive props to them. And then he goes in there
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: with his his yellow toenails. It's weird. It's weird attitude,
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: go like, am I getting extra points? Like romance points?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: And well, she threw that towel in his face and says,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: don't come home ever.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine you said this? And it's so true.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: He is just leaving his dirty socks everywhere. He has
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: never touched his feet, and he has the audacity to
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: tell her that she's getting too comfortable, that she's getting
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: too that she's getting to she's too comfortable, she's too
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: comfor Are you insane? She's like, yeah, I mean I
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: kind of wish they would just like either they really
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: keep hitting the like the Alpha podcasts or whatever, and
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: he very much is like, no, those are just all
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: of my ideas. But you know I at the same time,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you're gonna have to like, here, we're gonna
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: have a scene of him watching or listening to this
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: stuff because it's just weird that you keep because I
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: also want to say something those things exist, but it's
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: also like him as an adult male making whatever choices
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: he's making. So I'm like, stop talking about the podcast.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Because if she's there's Fox News every there's every whatever everywhere, she's.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Not living with you when you're back in the US
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: and it's just you. What does your house look like?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Do you do laundry? Do you clean anything up? Are
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: you capable of doing anything? Is this just your toxic
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: masculine fantasy of I'm on vacation with my kind of wife,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: so I'm leaving things around for her to do while
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: I lay down. But what do you do at your
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: own house? Do you have are you hiring people to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: come and clean things? I don't think he's got the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: means to do anything, but he's he's like, no, interest
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: in being in the Philippines, in the culture, in her mom,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: who's there trying to sweetly say like, oh, you should
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: stay for at least a year, like two weeks isn't enough.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: She gets the measure of him so quickly that that
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: broken promises picture of yours hits so hard because you
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: know that she wants the best for her daughter and
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: clearly can tell that he ain't it. Whatever he is,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he is, but her standing up
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: her toilet breaker.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he breaks promises, he breaks toilets. He does understand
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: how to, like, you know, use toilet paper in a
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: different country, like no, no, no, no, no no. I yeah,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: that whole situation was hard, but yeah, I love him.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Chat to be like, your mom's always this bossy kind
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: of thing, I talking around her as if she isn't
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: there to be like this is a weird kind of flirtation.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But the fact that for him saying
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: we're gonna go to get a manicure or pedicure is
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: this big romantic gesture when he's done everything wrong and
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: she's fed up with him, and her mom clearly is
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: disappointed in him. His big thing is, let's go to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: a let's go to a salon, and I'll make fun
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: of it, and I'll make fun of you. But I'm
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: working so hard. I'm doing everything i can. Like you haven't.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: You haven't done anything. You left the house once.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's not a fun person. I wish that
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: she would also realize that, Like she's fun, so she
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: like needs someone who can like not be a black
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: hole of it, you know, like be absorb it like
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: weird and not reflect any back. I mean, it's just
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: a lot to like be a joyful person and then
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: just have someone just like.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: She could do so much better than him, and he
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: will never do better than her. There's no way that
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: he could. And you'd think that he would recognize that
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: and do everything that he can to maintain his relationship
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: just or just do a little bit more to show
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: it is like, hey, I actually do love you and
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: I am in this not oh, I'm not going to
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: do anything.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: He's too comfortable that The thing is like the thing
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: about it is funny is like the literal thing he
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: says to her is how he he is too comfortable.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: And so at this point I'm like, okay, then fine,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: please watch men. I need. I need. I want him
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: to watch men hit on her, you know, I want.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I mean because she's hot as hell, Like, she's very beautiful,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: and her mom is very beautiful. She's gonna aage into like,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: you know, a goddesslike situation. So I whatever, I just
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: think me it was hard and I felt bad for
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: the person that to give him the pedicure because I
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: don't think that person got tipped.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Well, the cheese grater on his foot, no, and the
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: just level of crap that was coming off of it.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's ever washed his feet in his life.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know that they've been in water.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Remember, Oh my god, I forgot about that for Yeah,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: his fucking gross sad. I'm so sorry.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: It looks like they took good, like one of those really.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Bad that She was like, oh my god, how are
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: you alive? With that smell coming from.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: I was worried it would be like popping, the popping
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: in their mouth or eyes or something. It looked like
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: you take one of those like two pound chocolate bars
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: from Trader Joe's and then great that say, the level,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: the thickness, the dirt that was coming off of his
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: feet and he's like, oh, yeah, this is nice. I'm
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: being self care as something. Just cleanliness is something.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: But hygiene could be fun. I mean turns out, but
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: I'm listen, I'm half of him. He's like, how are
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: you working at an old folks home? But that is
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: the end of the episode, And at the same time,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: it's not the end of the season, and you know,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: at the same it's not the end of us our friendship.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Are are watching of the show or our study of
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: human behavior? You know? So a lot to like unpack,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: but I think, yeah, as an actor or whatever, you like,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: do you like watching this stuff? And it's being like, well,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: how are you doing it?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Why? Or I don't know, do you think of it
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: like that kind of stuff.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: It's a fun exercise to to try because when you're acting,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: you're performing as somebody else. You're slipping into somebody else's
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: skin and trying to find that logic behind every line
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: that you say that is justified, but there's some core
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: belief that is tied to everything that you say, And
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: watching every one of them, I'm seriously wondering, what is
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: that essential thing that they truly believe, because like with yeah,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: that that's probably it for all of them.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that's Lisa's like. I think that Lisa
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: is like, how not to dialoon? I can't dial on?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: I want to dial Yeah, she says it. The the
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: I'm worthy of love is is what she vocalizes, is
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: that I just haven't. I keep trying. I haven't found
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: the right person yet. But I'm worthy of love and
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: I'm going to find my forever love is what she says.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: But the I don't want to die alone is the
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: more functional reality of just seeing how her daughter, how
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: tenuous things are with her daughter, that at any point,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Faith could throw her hands up and say I can't.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: I just can't do that anymore.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: And she should and freeze.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Her out for I don't know if she could do it.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: I hope she does forever. But they need to be
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: a part. For sure.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Faith's going to go on a journey of healing, and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that maybe just watching, having watched the show
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: and having heard people's opinions on how she needs to
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: save herself from this woman, will give her the validation
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: and confidence to make a big step. Because it's very
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: hard to cut off your mom.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very very hard to do. It's an impossible situation
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: to be in. It watching someone you love totally lose
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: touch with reality.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: And just I want to drag you down, and.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, drag like holding on to you for dear life
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: at the same time. And it's really hard to let
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: go with Daniel. You just know that once the shock
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: wears off of if he decides, you know what, Lisa
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: was so much it's not worth sticking around for, he's
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: going to jump right back on Facebook and he's going
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: to send more messages to some other white lady. I
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: hate to say this, Thank God Gods.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Right now, he's too He's hot. And there's already been
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: people on the show that like, after a season they
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: go on they have an Instagram account and the fans
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: of the show hit him up. That's already happened, ken Elly, Right,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: he's hot, he's an attracted man. He's he's bill. He's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: going to Lisa is going to leave him, and Daniel
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: is going to get many different American women wanting him
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: to either slide the DMS for either their own benefit
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: or to be in the show, or combination of both.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: And that is the truth, and that is hard to
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: deal with, but that's what's gonna happen for him.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: If this was VH one in the early two thousands,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: he already would have his spin off. It would be
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: like I Love New York, happened.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Mean Wants a Millionaire, It's yeah, shot Love, It's Daniel
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: wants a Date.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: By Chris Farah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh us, we're gonna be like, listen, let's make
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  Speaker 1: yeah's let's hold delirious crew, get the crew back.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be fly will fly over the leg us and
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  Speaker 2: just let him do his thing.
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  Speaker 1: Make a little money. Thank you so much for being
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  Speaker 1: on this episode and obviously talking with me about this
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  Speaker 1: fun stuff. Will you tell my listeners how to follow you?
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, anything excited to plug or working on right now?
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm mostly on Instagram and my account is just
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  Speaker 2: my name at Rama Valuri. And if you are in
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  Speaker 2: Florida or flying to Florida planning that big Disney World
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  Speaker 2: Universal Holiday adventure that people go on, if you go
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  Speaker 2: to Universal Studios New Epic Universe Park, specifically to the
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  Speaker 2: Dark Universe section, I am igor in Monsters, unchained the
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  Speaker 2: Frankenstein experiment. I'm the voice. I did the mo cap,
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  Speaker 2: the peak cap performance for the whole thing. There's a
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  Speaker 2: walk around character doing what I do. It won every
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  Speaker 2: award at the Theme Park Awards this past year best
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  Speaker 2: Best Attraction, Best Dark Ride, Most Innovative, and it is
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  Speaker 2: music for it. Shout out to Greg Hall, the genius
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  Speaker 2: behind that, the Velocit Coaster, the Haggard Ride, everything. That
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  Speaker 2: man's a genius. So you can, if you're in the
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  Speaker 2: things on YouTube. If you can't afford to go to Florida,
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  Speaker 2: you watch animated stuff Marvel Zombies, X Men ninety seven.
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  Speaker 2: I'm barren Zimo on both of those. On Spidey and
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  Speaker 2: his Amazing Friends, I'm Jeff the land Shark and a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of other characters. There's a cartoon out there. I
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  Speaker 2: might be in it, So take a look at any
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  Speaker 2: of those. And if you like Dick Wolf shows, I
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  Speaker 2: was on FBI Most Wanted in season six and I
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  Speaker 2: was a bad guy. So take a look at all
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  Speaker 2: of that.
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  Speaker 1: So weird because you're so nice, like you really are.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're like a lovely, warm, gentle person.
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  Speaker 2: They really like having me play mean corrupt people, but
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  Speaker 2: it's fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I grew up in Chicago with a lot of a
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  Speaker 2: lot of aldermen. I met a lot of like Chicago politicians,
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  Speaker 2: so it's very easy for me to figure out how
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  Speaker 2: to be corrupt with a smile and talk convincingly in
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  Speaker 2: that world. So if they want to pay me to
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  Speaker 2: do it, great, I will be that corrupt politician guy
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  Speaker 2: whatever they need.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, it's just too close to home. But yeah, okay, great,
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  Speaker 1: that's great. Awesome. Well as, thank you so much for
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  Speaker 1: obviously being on the show, and it will be the
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  Speaker 1: last time. If you want to follow me, you're welcome
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  Speaker 1: to a Matt Chris Elfera on all the social media
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  Speaker 1: I forgot about what am I talking about? To me
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  Speaker 1: free engagement would really help me. And also like somehow
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  Speaker 1: karmically get back to I promise you. But usually I
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  Speaker 1: do a little two breaths to end segments, just as
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  Speaker 1: the present moment of mindfulness bring us into this literal space,
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  Speaker 1: just to be like, if you're listening, you can use
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  Speaker 1: my voice in this moment throughout your day just to
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  Speaker 1: have a mindfulness moments. I like it, so I do
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  Speaker 1: it just to make other people suffer. Great. Okay, two breaths,
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  Speaker 1: because sometimes the first one doesn't work out and your
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  Speaker 1: mind wanders and you're like, oh no, But then you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I get one more breath, and then if it happens again,
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  Speaker 1: just think you know what, I'll try again. Nothing is
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be rigid. Everything is peaceful and calm. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: blow it out, breathe it in one more.
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  Speaker 2: Yay.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. Take care of yourselves
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  Speaker 1: and want another, stand up for what you believe, and
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  Speaker 1: not precious, it can be the dinner. All right. I'll
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  Speaker 1: talk to you guys later.
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