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The One Where Everything Is Temporary & Nothing Is Forever · Untraditionally Lala

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Speaker 1: Hello, my loves, welcome back and give them all a podcast.
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Speaker 1: I am.
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Speaker 2: It's early, it's early. It's early for me, it's nine
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Speaker 2: to twenty five am.
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Speaker 1: That for me to start podcasting and using my brain
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Speaker 1: is definitely like I'm a ten o'clocker. Yeah, because you
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Speaker 1: sit and go, okay, we're gonna start the podcast at
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Speaker 1: nine thirty. Well, then I got to wake up and
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Speaker 1: get ocean ready and do that whole shtick. Yeah, my
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Speaker 1: mom took her this morning. I didn't take her. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I do this well. Good.
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Speaker 2: I saw a lot of activity again once again. You
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Speaker 2: were out and about this weekend.
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Speaker 1: I went to Palm Springs.
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Speaker 2: Tell me about it.
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Speaker 1: Well, it was much needed. Life is weird. Everyone's life
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Speaker 1: gets weird at some point, right, So when you just
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Speaker 1: like LA for my friends who don't live here, my
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Speaker 1: people who don't live here, it can become suffocating, you know, Jess. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's little things that happen where you're like, I've got
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Speaker 1: to get the fuck out of here.
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Speaker 2: People in New York City know this feeling very well too,
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Speaker 2: do they? Yes?
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, my.
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Speaker 2: Friends in New York are constantly talking about it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is where I'm at you know when you say,
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Speaker 1: like I want to crawl out of my own skin.
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Speaker 1: I want to crawl out of Los Angeles. Okay, Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's just what I want right now. Yeah, So Shina said,
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Speaker 1: let's go to Palm Springs. I had you cancel most
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Speaker 1: of Thursday all of Friday so that I could go
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Speaker 1: and get my mind right. It was a very funky
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Speaker 1: couple of days, Like Thursday was a little fucking weird,
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Speaker 1: Friday was super fun. Saturday ocean came down with the cold.
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Speaker 1: I asked Shena, do you prefer that we leave so
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Speaker 1: we don't get summer moonsick? She was like, I think
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Speaker 1: that ship has sailed already. They've literally been kissing, sharing cups.
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Speaker 1: So it was it was great. It was easy. We
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Speaker 1: stayed in most of the time because it was raining.
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Speaker 2: But why do you think did something happen where you
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Speaker 2: felt like I have to get out of here? Do
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Speaker 2: you just think it just happens sometimes when you live
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Speaker 2: in a city like LA.
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Speaker 1: I think it just happens sometimes when you live in
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Speaker 1: a place like La. But also just everything going on
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Speaker 1: in my personal life, which I'm like sitting here like
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Speaker 1: wanting a fucking just share like I want to get
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Speaker 1: on this mic and be like, this is what I've
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Speaker 1: been fucking dealing with for fourteen fucking months. These are
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Speaker 1: the little things that I gotta fucking deal with, and
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Speaker 1: I'm sick of it. And to watch someone constantly try
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Speaker 1: to say that everyone around is lying, but he's the
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Speaker 1: keeper of the truth. Everyone else is insane and lying
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Speaker 1: trying to take him down, It's like beyond comprehension from an.
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Speaker 2: Out just an outsider, even if I didn't know you,
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Speaker 2: an outsider looking in you have been saying for a
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Speaker 2: long time, like, hey, there's stuff going on no one
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Speaker 2: knows about. I'm just trying to get through stuff going on,
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Speaker 2: stuff going on. And slowly we have started to be
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Speaker 2: we as the audience have become exposed to some of
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Speaker 2: the things, maybe just the surface.
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Speaker 1: Well, what if I always suggests from the very beginning,
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Speaker 1: what is done in the dark will always come to
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Speaker 1: the light, right and now people are somewhat somewhat seeing
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Speaker 1: why I am fighting for my child right now. Right,
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Speaker 1: So it's a day in, day out type of thing.
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Speaker 1: And I still believe what is done in the dark
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Speaker 1: will always come to the light, The truth will always
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Speaker 1: find the light. That's just how shit works. So I'm
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Speaker 1: doing whatever I can to prevent things from happening, to protect,
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Speaker 1: you know, my offspring, my little cub. But it's a lot.
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Speaker 1: And I will say this weekend I had moments of
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Speaker 1: just we talked about this week last week, where I
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Speaker 1: have moments of like, Okay, this is a moment where
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Speaker 1: I may break, And I got to sit in a
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Speaker 1: room and like regroup right and tell myself, this motherfucker
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Speaker 1: is not gonna break me, bitch, I'll be damned.
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Speaker 2: And it's incredible to watch, only because you know, you're
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Speaker 2: starting to hear and see people going, oh my god,
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Speaker 2: this is what Lala's been hinting at and talking about
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Speaker 2: and and and you know me, I'm like, oh my,
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Speaker 2: And people are like, no, wonder she's been fighting and
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Speaker 2: this and that. I'm like, oh god, you don't even no, no, no,
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Speaker 2: this is not it. This is not even we haven't
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Speaker 2: even scratched the surface. So you are going through so
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Speaker 2: much more than people know. And you don't, like, you're
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Speaker 2: not the kind of person to sit there and say that,
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Speaker 2: like if you guys only knew, like you're just not
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Speaker 2: and to watch you are going through so much and
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Speaker 2: I literally have said this honestly these past two years.
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Speaker 2: To watch you get up every day and you have
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Speaker 2: your moments, but then to soldier on is like extremely inspiring.
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Speaker 2: And we always get dms that are like, oh my god,
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Speaker 2: like Laala inspires me. She's killing it, which so true.
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Speaker 2: But I think just one day, I think people may
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Speaker 2: know the full story and it's it's incredible.
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Speaker 1: Full story will come out. Yeah yeah, and I don't
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Speaker 1: even have to be the one to say it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're you're you're killing it. You're an amazing mother,
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Speaker 2: You're an amazing just woman friend boss. So it's like amazing.
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Speaker 2: It's just like bravo to you, you know.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jess. Yeah. In brighter news, Yes, let's hear
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Speaker 1: you had a really fun I love watching your Instagram
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Speaker 1: so much. It brings me so much joy. Okay, let's
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Speaker 1: talk about you micro needled your own.
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Speaker 2: Face, micro needled my own face, which I didn't even know.
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Speaker 2: I got a micro needling tool, which I'll link you guys.
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Speaker 2: I got all of these. You know, it's funny. I
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Speaker 2: got all of the stuff. Micro needling tool, led light mask.
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Speaker 2: When the pandemic hit in twenty twenty because I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be home time to do all of
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Speaker 2: like the facial stuff and everything. And I probably used
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Speaker 2: them all like twice and then forgot about them until
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Speaker 2: this past weekend. I was looking in the mirror, and
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Speaker 2: you know, I'm thirty one, and I've always you know,
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Speaker 2: I look at my skin and I see the wrinkles forming,
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Speaker 2: and I've I've said it on here before. I always
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Speaker 2: go back and forth with like is it time for botox?
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Speaker 2: Is it time? So I think it is, but haven't
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Speaker 2: gotten it yet. But this past weekend I did some
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Speaker 2: micro needling, did an led light mask. I don't know
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Speaker 2: if it's going to help, because I've heard and read
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Speaker 2: and watched that you have to be consistent, but it
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Speaker 2: was just a fun little like.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. It looked the red light mask, which,
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Speaker 1: by the way, every time I go to a spaw
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Speaker 1: and have that treatment done, I fall asleep out cold.
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Speaker 1: The micro needling, I don't know if that's going to
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Speaker 1: help with wrinkle wrinkles. I know it helps with like
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Speaker 1: fine lines, but you know, just like the way we
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Speaker 1: move our faces, I don't know that it's going to
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Speaker 1: like really get it in there.
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Speaker 2: What does it do oh collagen right it?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, basically like resurfaces your your healthy skin. Okay, well,
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Speaker 1: and that's why I do the micro needling with the
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Speaker 1: PRP where they put basically your own blood, not really,
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Speaker 1: they separate the platelets and then they put the plasma
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Speaker 1: on and then they micro needle that into your face.
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Speaker 2: See that it is your own blood. I would pass out,
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Speaker 2: but I would. Do you remember that?
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Speaker 1: Do you remember that video the blood blood what? Oh?
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Speaker 2: That was like one of the first YouTube viral throw
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Speaker 2: back same around the same time as the Charlie but
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Speaker 2: my Finger Charlie Charlie out and it's still hurting throw
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Speaker 2: I wonder if some people listening to this they're like,
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Speaker 2: what are they talking about?
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Speaker 1: As No, my demographic is, like I think mostly my
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Speaker 1: age and older. Okay, I definitely know what we're talking.
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Speaker 2: But because when I was talking about broad City, when
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Speaker 2: we were talking about pegging, and I was like, oh,
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Speaker 2: there's an episode on broad City, I got so many
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Speaker 2: dms like shout out hell, yes, broad City.
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Speaker 1: Can I tell you something really funny? And I hope
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Speaker 1: they keep it in this season and Bravo, please don't
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Speaker 1: email me. I don't want to live it ain't the day.
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Speaker 1: Just let me say this. We we're filming and we're
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Speaker 1: in like, we're in fight mode a group of us,
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Speaker 1: and I said, I pegged you from the beginning, and
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Speaker 1: the whole group likes to me, goes what And I
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Speaker 1: was like, like, I I called your like I knew
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Speaker 1: your card before your cars, before they were dealt. And
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Speaker 1: they were like, pegging is putting something in your asshole.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, are you serious pegging?
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Speaker 2: Yes, more specifically no, but that is Kyle says it.
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Speaker 2: He's like, well, I pegged him for a blah blah
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Speaker 2: blah guy. And I'm like, oh, did you.
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Speaker 1: Now that's what I thought.
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Speaker 2: Were you talking to a man or a woman?
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Speaker 1: Group of chicks? Oh, group of chicks.
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Speaker 2: That is so funny. I hope they keep that in.
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Speaker 1: I do too. There's my tea on vander Pump that
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Speaker 1: there are times that are like really, really fucking funny,
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Speaker 1: and I hope that some of them they keep in.
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Speaker 2: You know what I loved last season. I don't know
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Speaker 2: if this is the first season they did it, but
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Speaker 2: it seemed like they kept those moments in. It was
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Speaker 2: like the week after the episode aired, they had the
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was extended version of totally,
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Speaker 2: well that extended.
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Speaker 1: When they do that, it's like an like unseen unseen.
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Speaker 2: Footage totally they have in the episodes. I don't know
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Speaker 2: if they'll do it this season, but that seems to
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Speaker 2: be when they put the funny stuff back in, like
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Speaker 2: what you didn't see from the scene, and it's like
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Speaker 2: a silly moment.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, But speaking of vander Pump, I'm curious because I
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Speaker 2: saw a lot of news and stuff. I saw a
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Speaker 2: lot of like tea spilled this past weekend on Bravo
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Speaker 2: account and people questioning certain relationships you have in friendships.
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Speaker 2: Do you have anything to say on that?
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Speaker 1: So I did because today we don't have a guest,
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Speaker 1: and I like when we have a guest, but I
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Speaker 1: also have so much fun, just like shooting the shit
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Speaker 1: with you guys, you know. So I asked my friends
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Speaker 1: on Instagram we're recording a podcast, like what do you
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Speaker 1: want to know? And so many people asked about this
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Speaker 1: what you're referring to, So of course I was like,
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Speaker 1: why are people asking this? Well, now I know that
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Speaker 1: someone asked Katie this on her podcast and she said,
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Speaker 1: quote unquote, the vibes are definitely off. So I guess
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Speaker 1: the vibes are definitely off.
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Speaker 2: Is that news to you?
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Speaker 1: Well? After the DMS I got from her the other day,
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Speaker 1: not so much. Not so much, I would say a
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Speaker 1: little bit off. But just like I've said before, I
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Speaker 1: got a lot going on. That is the least of
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Speaker 1: my concern. And I hope she had a very happy birthday.
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Speaker 1: It slipped my mind that it was her birthday because
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Speaker 1: it was MLK Day.
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Speaker 2: Oh oh, her birthday was yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Monday, on Monday. Yeah, oh, I didn't know that. Okay, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so I completely spaced it, you know, with MLK Day happening,
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Speaker 1: and you know, I had ocean she was feeling sick.
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Speaker 1: So there's that. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Well, as someone who is a fan of your friendship,
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Speaker 2: I hope that the vibes get back on. But I
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Speaker 2: guess we'll see.
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Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see, yeah, you know, m hm, you know,
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Speaker 1: we'll fucking see. There was another funny question that someone
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Speaker 1: asked me on the gram. Did you ever sleep with Jack?
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Speaker 2: For real?
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Speaker 1: Answer?
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Speaker 2: Tell the truth, Laala, No, I did not. I do
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Speaker 2: not have even slept with him.
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Speaker 1: I think season four, like before Brittany had come into
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Speaker 1: vander Pump Rules. There was like flirting going on.
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Speaker 2: I remember that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: But nothing ever happened, like not even not even a kiss,
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Speaker 1: Like nothing at all, Yeah happened. Ever.
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Speaker 2: That's so funny because you I remember that scene where
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Speaker 2: it was like, oh, she's flirting on whatever, And it
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Speaker 2: makes me laugh because I just feel like I've only
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Speaker 2: met Jackson a couple of times. You know, nice guy,
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Speaker 2: but I feel like you two are so different, and
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Speaker 2: I would be shook if I ever found out you
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Speaker 2: guys slept together.
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Speaker 1: I means, yeah, but weren't you shook when you found
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Speaker 1: out that, like I hooked double jeens. Yeah, Alcohol's one
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Speaker 1: hell of a drug, it really is. In fact, there
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Speaker 1: was a scene season four at the very beginning where
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Speaker 1: I went to have drinks with Jack's Sheena and Kristen,
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Speaker 1: and I had my hand on Jackson's leg and everyone
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Speaker 1: was like, she's doing something naughty and I wasn't. And
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Speaker 1: then I had my like the person I was so
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Speaker 1: in love with at the time pick me up from
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Speaker 1: that bar. I was wasted. I do not recommend this.
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Speaker 1: It was very fun, but I don't recommend it. I
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Speaker 1: literally was having sex with him while he was driving
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Speaker 1: like on his lap. Okay, like one wrong move, we
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Speaker 1: were through the windshield. What's this someone that we saw
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Speaker 1: on the show or no, no, okay, it wasn't someone
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Speaker 1: you saw on the show, but it was talked about.
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Speaker 1: We get to my apartment at the time, the famous
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Speaker 1: or the infamous apartment on Olympic Okay, and that's when
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Speaker 1: I ate someone's bum bum for the first time ever.
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Speaker 1: And it was this up on the show. I was like,
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Speaker 1: are you kidding me?
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Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, hold on, I'm I want to make
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Speaker 2: sure I'm understanding this correctly. You had sex with this
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Speaker 2: guy in the car who picked you up. Yes, Then
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Speaker 2: when you got home.
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Speaker 1: Who I had been seeing since I was like twenty
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Speaker 1: one and I was twenty.
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Speaker 2: Four, did you eat his ass? And James's no, jamesus,
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Speaker 2: I don't.
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Speaker 1: Man's the boys.
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Speaker 2: The guy And then you told James about.
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Speaker 1: It, and then I was like, oh my gosh, like
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Speaker 1: do I think we're getting back together? This is awesome? Yes?
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Speaker 1: What And guess what what we did get back together?
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Speaker 1: You did?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: And then I kept having dreams that he was cheating
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Speaker 1: on me, and I was like, this is called a
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Speaker 1: gut feeling. So I broke up with him again betrayal.
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Speaker 2: It took me a couple of years to stop taking
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Speaker 2: out my dreams on Kyle be like, are you fucking?
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Speaker 2: I would wake up and be like wake up.
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Speaker 1: He'd be like, the fuck is.
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Speaker 2: Wrong with you? Hear me out, Yeah, this is what
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Speaker 2: you did to me my dream because I was also crazy,
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Speaker 2: like the first two years I did him extremely insecure,
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Speaker 2: a drunk, drinking every night like.
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Speaker 1: Comic so don't picture you this way, Oh my.
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Speaker 2: God, messy going out. He was a DJ in Nashville,
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Speaker 2: so like he would DJ from nine to two and
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Speaker 2: I would get free drinks right at like the rooftop clubs,
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Speaker 2: and I would just drunk, messy, yucky, but more better now.
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Speaker 1: You know, she feel like that happened.
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Speaker 2: You know what's interesting too, I feel like if it
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Speaker 2: weren't him, any other guy would have probably not stuck
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Speaker 2: around like I think any.
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Speaker 1: Other guy would have been like patient.
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Speaker 2: Yeah he was patient. So if any men are out
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Speaker 2: there listening to this and you have a gut feeling
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Speaker 2: like this is my lady, but she's acting a fool
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Speaker 2: right now, maybe hang in there, have some talks with her.
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Speaker 2: It might be just her thing, her insecurities, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but also consider her age.
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Speaker 2: Consider her age. I was twenty five, Yeah I was.
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Speaker 2: I think I feel like anything.
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Speaker 1: If she's in her early to mid twenties, Yeah, she
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Speaker 1: can be acting crazy once she starts stepping into like
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Speaker 1: the twenty seven twenty eight zone, she should really be
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Speaker 1: like kind of figuring it out. Still maybe a little
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Speaker 1: up and down, but you know we're getting a grip. Yes,
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Speaker 1: once they hit thirty, yes I should mellow out. I
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Speaker 1: don't know who the fuck am I to judge.
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Speaker 2: And also, yes, I know a lot of my friends
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Speaker 2: who didn't drink until they were like twenty five, and
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Speaker 2: then they get to be thirty and that's their wild days.
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Speaker 2: So who knows. But can we go back to you
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Speaker 2: eating ass really quick?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Always did you enjoy it?
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Speaker 2: Number one? Because I've never done it. I never will.
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Speaker 2: That is a garbage area to me.
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Speaker 1: I am like, again, I was drinking.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I would assume it's like smelly and gross and terrible.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't smelly and gross and terrible. But I literally
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Speaker 1: like I would have let this man do anything to me,
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Speaker 1: like I was like in love.
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Speaker 2: Do you still talk to this No?
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Speaker 1: Okay, No, no, No, he's like married with children, Okay,
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Speaker 1: fine as fuck. His wife's fine as fuck. Okay, taking
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Speaker 1: hot kids, love that, you know. Okay.
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Speaker 2: So it was nice. It was a good experience.
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Speaker 1: That's good. It was a great experience. It was sad
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Speaker 1: because by the time we were both like, I had
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Speaker 1: moved out here, he was ready to commit, which is
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Speaker 1: what I had been wanting since I was like twenty
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Speaker 1: one and he was younger than me, and I met
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Speaker 1: him when he was in college and I chose that
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Speaker 1: thing to be with.
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Speaker 2: Oh it was around this time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, you know what, You've really taken
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Speaker 1: my heart on a wild fucking ride, and I just
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Speaker 1: I could go for security and knowing that I'm going
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Speaker 1: to be taken care of in my emotional areas. Right,
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Speaker 1: He's present, and I just can't take the chance on
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Speaker 1: you doing to me what you've done for the past
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Speaker 1: however many years.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you wanted what you thought was stability, which makes
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Speaker 2: sense when you get to a mature age as a woman.
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of women search for that. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Breg mistake, BG brigm shteak.
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Speaker 1: But then I would to have Ocean Kent exactly. The Angel,
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Speaker 1: The Angel Okay, this person is asking how to be
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Speaker 1: okay with being single. I've been single for four years
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Speaker 1: and still on struggle street. That's such a tough one
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Speaker 1: because I want to say, like, I feel like you
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Speaker 1: feel comfortable being single once you feel one hundred percent
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Speaker 1: with yourself. But I also have met many men, not
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Speaker 1: many women, but a lot of men who have been
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Speaker 1: single for a really long time who seem to be very,
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Speaker 1: very okay with themselves. They're one hundred percent on their own,
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Speaker 1: but they're like, I want a partner, like I'm ready.
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Speaker 1: The men, the men. I've met a lot of men
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Speaker 1: who are looking for that. Yeah, no, I agree with you.
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Speaker 2: I think that, Like I said, I met I had
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Speaker 2: I've told you this before, Lalla, and I think I've
18:55
Speaker 2: said it on here. I met Kyle literally two days after.
18:59
Speaker 2: I was like my entire family, like, here's my plan.
19:02
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be single forever when I'm thirty five, I'm
19:04
Speaker 2: gonna get a sperm donor. I had my entire life plan,
19:07
Speaker 2: and I was like excited for it. I'm like, I'm
19:10
Speaker 2: gonna be the baddest bitch. And then I met Kyle
19:13
Speaker 2: and I'm still that bitch, but like it was one
19:16
Speaker 2: of those things where I was like finally happy and
19:18
Speaker 2: secure with myself. I mean ended up being insecure for
19:21
Speaker 2: a couple more years after that. But I think you're right.
19:24
Speaker 2: I think that being happy with yourself and a lot
19:28
Speaker 2: of people say this, but it comes when you're not looking.
19:31
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that?
19:32
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think when you start like you're on the
19:35
Speaker 1: move searching to find a dude, it's like they're nowhere
19:38
Speaker 1: to be found. It's same with when you're in a
19:41
Speaker 1: relationship and for some reason you got all these options
19:43
Speaker 1: and you can't even do anything about it because you're like,
19:45
Speaker 1: I found my person, but so why do you want me?
19:47
Speaker 1: And then you break up with them and you're like
19:49
Speaker 1: where the dude is at?
19:51
Speaker 2: Because it's an energy, people have said, yeah, it's like
19:54
Speaker 2: an energy when you're happy and fulfilled with yourself, and yeah,
19:59
Speaker 2: give or take a man or a woman, that's sort
20:02
Speaker 2: of an attractive energy to a lot of people.
20:04
Speaker 1: It's interesting. So I wouldn't even know how to answer
20:07
Speaker 1: that because I've been single now for over a year,
20:10
Speaker 1: and granted my situation is different, and we won't harp
20:14
Speaker 1: on my situation because we've been doing it for an eternity,
20:17
Speaker 1: it feels like. But I just think, as corny as
20:21
Speaker 1: it sounds, timing is everything.
20:24
Speaker 2: Timing is everything for everything. I feel like for everything, jobs, work, relationships,
20:30
Speaker 2: so many things are timing.
20:31
Speaker 1: I also think you have to like really sit down
20:34
Speaker 1: and create an incredible bond with the universe. Is that
20:39
Speaker 1: so weird? You guys can all think that I'm a
20:42
Speaker 1: nut job, But I just find that when you have
20:45
Speaker 1: a profound relationship with the universe, it just works in
20:52
Speaker 1: your favor. And it could be just a mental thing
20:54
Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, it is making sense, you know,
20:56
Speaker 1: like almost like a placebo effect for the mind.
21:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's it is placebo effect, like thinking, Okay,
21:03
Speaker 2: I'm doing this, so things are gonna get better, and
21:05
Speaker 2: then things do get better. Right, No, I one hundred
21:08
Speaker 2: percent agree. It's the whole manifesting, which people, by the way,
21:12
Speaker 2: were like, I'm getting into it this year, tons of
21:14
Speaker 2: people manifesting and doing gonna try your holy work.
21:17
Speaker 1: I just fucking do it. I'm not even fucking around
21:22
Speaker 1: with you right now. What are the Okay, let's just
21:25
Speaker 1: put it in perspective for the one thing that okay,
21:27
Speaker 1: I've been manifesting from the time I was a child, right,
21:30
Speaker 1: I've always said I'm gonna grow up and be an
21:32
Speaker 1: entertainment dam There was no one who could tell me otherwise.
21:35
Speaker 1: There's a small percent chance la la great, I'm gonna
21:40
Speaker 1: be a part of that. Yeah, I always told myself.
21:44
Speaker 1: I was like, one day, I'm dreaming big. I want
21:48
Speaker 1: I want to be in a range Rover.
21:50
Speaker 2: You're in the nicest one I've seen.
21:52
Speaker 1: You. Just keep manifesting. I feel like I'm going insane today.
21:57
Speaker 1: So if anyone's sitting here being like, what's going on
21:59
Speaker 1: with her? Mentally, just no role with me today. I
22:03
Speaker 1: need y'all on my train. Please.
22:06
Speaker 2: I'm eating this up. No, this is like you the manifesting.
22:11
Speaker 2: I read something this weekend. It was like ten life tips.
22:14
Speaker 2: It was a TikTok or something, but number one was
22:17
Speaker 2: and take this as you will because some of us
22:19
Speaker 2: just need work. We need to make money, but never
22:22
Speaker 2: work for someone who you don't want to become. And
22:25
Speaker 2: I was like, I've got that down because I look
22:28
Speaker 2: at you and I'm like, yes, that's goals, And I'm
22:32
Speaker 2: like that's a great tip.
22:33
Speaker 1: And you know this isn't our forever, right, Jess. But
22:35
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a day where you come to work
22:37
Speaker 1: and we're free, like we've broken the chains.
22:41
Speaker 2: I love that you say that because I feel free.
22:43
Speaker 2: But I get what you're saying, Like best job I've
22:45
Speaker 2: ever had, just because like it's you. I mean, I've
22:48
Speaker 2: said it over and over. But I love what we're doing.
22:51
Speaker 2: We're making moves, we're taking meetings, we got things going
22:53
Speaker 2: on behind the scenes, we've got schedules filled up. I
22:56
Speaker 2: love it.
22:57
Speaker 1: I love it too.
22:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, but manifesting back to pie, I sat here and
23:02
Speaker 2: I found out a shit ton of things.
23:04
Speaker 1: I didn't have to do shit. I knew why I
23:07
Speaker 1: was fighting and what I was in two weeks ago. Bam, Wow,
23:12
Speaker 1: I didn't have to say one thing. And here it is.
23:16
Speaker 1: Everyone knows now without me saying a word, without me confirming, denying,
23:21
Speaker 1: just sitting back and doing what I need to do
23:24
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. It's right in front of everyone. Oh oh,
23:27
Speaker 1: let's put the pieces of the puzzle together on why
23:30
Speaker 1: Lalla's been fighting for over a year now. All right,
23:34
Speaker 1: So you sit your ass down and you call whatever
23:37
Speaker 1: it is you want into your life, and you know
23:39
Speaker 1: the universe has your back, and you say anything that
23:42
Speaker 1: is true, bring it to the light. And by the way,
23:46
Speaker 1: sometimes I live like straight live right now, living on
23:50
Speaker 1: a prayer. Yeah, the only thing that keeps me going
23:54
Speaker 1: on a day to day where I can get out
23:55
Speaker 1: of bed and function, even though I might go to
23:57
Speaker 1: sleep and night and be like, wow, we did a lot,
24:00
Speaker 1: but I don't remember much because I'm so just occupied
24:04
Speaker 1: by what is my life. But you wake up in
24:08
Speaker 1: the morning and you're straight living on trust in something
24:14
Speaker 1: greater than you.
24:15
Speaker 2: Well, what you just said about getting I wake up
24:17
Speaker 2: in the morning and the only thing that gets me
24:19
Speaker 2: out of bed. I read this this past weekend. A
24:22
Speaker 2: lot of us grew up hearing like choices have consequences,
24:25
Speaker 2: and we just sort of associate that with negativity. Like
24:28
Speaker 2: I always thought, like my parents told me that forever
24:31
Speaker 2: and to me it always meant like if I make
24:33
Speaker 2: a bad choice, I'm gonna pay for it somehow, which
24:36
Speaker 2: I totally agree. But I was reading something it was
24:39
Speaker 2: called like Unholy and Holy Choices this week and my
24:41
Speaker 2: Grandma's a doll she sent me a book, but it
24:44
Speaker 2: was saying choices have consequences. Think of that as well
24:49
Speaker 2: as like the not negative thing. So if you make
24:52
Speaker 2: a good choice, there's gonna be a good consequence. So
24:55
Speaker 2: just you getting out of your laying in bed and
24:58
Speaker 2: you're like, I'm gonna choose to get out of bed
25:00
Speaker 2: this morning and you get up, there's going to be
25:03
Speaker 2: a positive consequence for that choice. Just a choice as
25:07
Speaker 2: simple as I'm going to get out of bed, next thing,
25:10
Speaker 2: I'm going to journal, there's going to be a positive
25:14
Speaker 2: consequence that comes from that. And I like it kind
25:17
Speaker 2: of changed my mindset because I'm like, oh, true, if
25:20
Speaker 2: even the smallest choices are going to have consequences, and
25:23
Speaker 2: it goes the other way too. You choose a tiny
25:25
Speaker 2: choice to make a bad decision, that's gonna have a
25:28
Speaker 2: consequence that you're gonna have to live with. So it's
25:30
Speaker 2: kind of like it kind of has just like formed
25:33
Speaker 2: my mindset a little, Like harder things. I'm choosing to
25:36
Speaker 2: go to the gym for twenty minutes, that's gonna have
25:38
Speaker 2: a positive consequence for me on my mental stability. So
25:43
Speaker 2: I just like you just saying something as simple as
25:45
Speaker 2: I'm choosing to get out of bed this morning is
25:48
Speaker 2: going to just have a positive consequence, right, Yeah.
25:52
Speaker 1: And I remember like at the very beginning of all
25:55
Speaker 1: of this. There was a lawyer who said to me,
26:00
Speaker 1: I need you to keep your head where your feet are.
26:04
Speaker 1: And so many times I've noticed when I'm like laying
26:07
Speaker 1: in bed, because that's really like at night when my
26:09
Speaker 1: anxiety kicks in, and in the morning, when I see
26:11
Speaker 1: the sun come up, I'm like, oh fuck, we got it.
26:13
Speaker 1: Like I got to start the day and it starts
26:15
Speaker 1: all over again, and what am I gonna have to
26:17
Speaker 1: deal with today? But when I and I realized the disconnect,
26:22
Speaker 1: my head is like up in the clouds going a
26:26
Speaker 1: million miles an hour, and I have to, like, literally
26:30
Speaker 1: it feels literally put my head back onto my body
26:34
Speaker 1: where my feet are. And I immediately when I can
26:36
Speaker 1: connect my head to my feet, calmness. Yeah, right now
26:41
Speaker 1: we're laying in the bed. You ain't got to think
26:43
Speaker 1: about shit right now, we're podcasting. Just think about that. Yeah. Yeah,
26:48
Speaker 1: And that's a lot.
26:49
Speaker 2: And yeah. And that's the thing we talked about last
26:51
Speaker 2: week too, is like why worry about something that hasn't
26:54
Speaker 2: happened yet. If it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen, and
26:56
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to feel the negative emotions when it happens,
27:00
Speaker 2: but you worrying about it is like you're gonna have
27:03
Speaker 2: to feel those negative emotions twice.
27:05
Speaker 1: You know, Well, this is my teachable moment. And I
27:07
Speaker 1: think all of us go through this where we every
27:11
Speaker 1: experience in life is teaching us something. And I've never
27:15
Speaker 1: believed in your strength is being tested. I feel I
27:20
Speaker 1: feel like your strength is being shown rather than tested.
27:24
Speaker 1: But these are teachable moments, and for me, I have
27:28
Speaker 1: to remember I don't need to cross bridges that we're
27:31
Speaker 1: not at yet. Yeah, I'm thinking about bridges that I
27:35
Speaker 1: may never even have to cross at all.
27:38
Speaker 2: And you're feeling the feelings probably of oh shit in yeah,
27:42
Speaker 2: if you're feeling the feelings of what you would feel
27:45
Speaker 2: approaching those bridges when you may never approach them, So
27:48
Speaker 2: why put yourself through that?
27:50
Speaker 1: Yeah? But I think that most people relate to that.
27:55
Speaker 1: We all live on a what if we got to
27:57
Speaker 1: stop living on a what if? I'm all about it, B,
28:01
Speaker 1: but let's not. Let's take the plan B, put it
28:04
Speaker 1: in a box and visit it when it needs to
28:06
Speaker 1: be visited.
28:07
Speaker 2: Right, it's there if it needs to be right. Yeah, Wow,
28:11
Speaker 2: I love I love these episodes.
28:14
Speaker 1: Here we go. We go from eating nast to manifestation
28:17
Speaker 1: bitch drinks you go to now being sober? Perier, where
28:27
Speaker 1: are you at? I'm gonna need you to be like, hey, Lalla,
28:32
Speaker 1: we would love to sponsor you. I mean, I literally
28:38
Speaker 1: how many dress how many bitches filled to the brim?
28:41
Speaker 1: I have Perier's coming out of my ears and they're
28:45
Speaker 1: wiped out as quickly as they're put in the fridge.
28:48
Speaker 2: Some might say too many, We are all. We always
28:50
Speaker 2: have them stocked at the office. We've got to have
28:53
Speaker 2: them stocked at Lala's house. Perier, the amount of ideas
28:57
Speaker 2: Lalla has to just creatively push your brand. If you
29:03
Speaker 2: sponsor her or this podcast, it's gonna when you finally
29:07
Speaker 2: we're manifesting that. And when you finally sponsor Lalla, we're
29:09
Speaker 2: gonna have a little Perier celebration.
29:11
Speaker 1: That's my go to drink. Yeah, and it makes me
29:15
Speaker 1: happy when I say to a waiter, do you have
29:19
Speaker 1: sparkling water, preferably Perier, and they say we do it.
29:25
Speaker 1: Like the joy that it brings me, Yeah, it makes
29:28
Speaker 1: me sad. It's almost like like you being gone on
29:35
Speaker 1: a long trip and you're finally home. That's what Perry
29:40
Speaker 1: makes me feel Oh, my God, makes me feel like
29:44
Speaker 1: I'm at home. I'm not kidding. I have a profound
29:50
Speaker 1: love for it, you really do.
29:52
Speaker 2: I want to love anything as much as you love Perier,
29:54
Speaker 2: to be honest.
29:55
Speaker 1: So people ask me what's your drink of choice when
29:57
Speaker 1: you go out of Perier? A Perier that's it, Perier
30:02
Speaker 1: in a champagne glass, periy and a short glass perio
30:04
Speaker 1: camp Perier at the bottle. I don't care, or just
30:07
Speaker 1: get it in my body.
30:10
Speaker 2: That's true. And when you are looking for something a
30:12
Speaker 2: little sweeter you you do? Do you still go with
30:14
Speaker 2: Starla or no?
30:15
Speaker 1: Oh, Starla's we want to get real. When I'm having
30:17
Speaker 1: a rough day, starless sparkling rose done a champagne glass
30:24
Speaker 1: takes all my cares away.
30:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, and these are sponsored, my friends, These are just
30:28
Speaker 2: her loves Placibo effect.
30:30
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
30:32
Speaker 2: You know how people have the like like diamond encrusted
30:36
Speaker 2: like McDonald's bags, and I want to get you or
30:40
Speaker 2: find a could you imagine a diamond encrusted like Perier purse?
30:44
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's a a designer named Judith Lieber. If
30:50
Speaker 1: you've ever seen like the Kardashians with their super sparkly,
30:54
Speaker 1: like one hundred dollar bill purses that they take around.
30:57
Speaker 1: Ye've seen cupcakes. So I have the hammer Okay, a
31:02
Speaker 1: hamburger purse. Oh my. I bought it for myself because
31:06
Speaker 1: I was so obsessed. She does it in like hot dogs.
31:10
Speaker 2: Oh my god, these are amazing aliens.
31:13
Speaker 1: So it's sold out, but I spent just shy of
31:17
Speaker 1: six thousand dollars on it. I'm looking right here, six
31:20
Speaker 1: grand Okay.
31:21
Speaker 2: Is it like swar Off skik Yes, okay.
31:23
Speaker 1: You can't fit shit in it. It's literally all about looks.
31:27
Speaker 1: I've taken it out all of one time, and when
31:30
Speaker 1: I take it out, there's nothing in it except maybe
31:33
Speaker 1: a chapstick, okay, and then the rest of the stuff
31:36
Speaker 1: I give to my husband. I'm like, hold my wallet,
31:39
Speaker 1: here's my lipliner. Actually, if I have like a little
31:42
Speaker 1: tiny nub of a lipliner, I can put that in
31:44
Speaker 1: it too, like if I've shaved it down to the
31:46
Speaker 1: point where it's just like a tiny little guy. So
31:48
Speaker 1: it's an accessory, total accessory. It's just meant to be like,
31:53
Speaker 1: oh that's weird. Yeah, I'm oddly fucking awesome because it's
31:58
Speaker 1: a hamber her purse. I mean, look at this shit, Jess.
32:01
Speaker 1: We got to post this on the ground, and I
32:03
Speaker 1: really expect how you look at that? Am I lying?
32:05
Speaker 1: Five six hundred and ninety five dollars?
32:07
Speaker 2: Oh that's beautiful though.
32:09
Speaker 1: And I was like, I deserve this. I don't know
32:10
Speaker 1: what belt I deserved it, but I bought it. Well
32:13
Speaker 1: you do.
32:13
Speaker 2: And I wonder if she makes for they the brand
32:17
Speaker 2: Judith Lieber may would make an actual.
32:20
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. We should reach out. I mean, look,
32:22
Speaker 1: she has a croissant, she has a Wilbur, the pig Wilbur.
32:26
Speaker 2: Oh my god, these are there?
32:28
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, a hot dog, the hot dog sold out, a.
32:31
Speaker 2: Rainbow basketball French fries?
32:34
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? I know how much is that one? Same? Same?
32:37
Speaker 2: Six thousand?
32:37
Speaker 1: Well?
32:38
Speaker 2: Five six nine?
32:38
Speaker 1: All right, let's reach out to her. Let's see if
32:40
Speaker 1: she can make me a perryer Perth. That'd be fucking awesome, right.
32:44
Speaker 2: No, that'd be incredible. I've been thinking about it, and
32:46
Speaker 2: I'm like, but where would I get one made?
32:48
Speaker 1: Judith Leber leb yours for six gees?
32:51
Speaker 2: Oh?
32:52
Speaker 1: Easy? Good god? So there's that. Yes, I love Perry.
32:56
Speaker 1: That's my go to when it comes to non alcoholic beverages,
33:00
Speaker 1: I wish I had something more fun for you guys.
33:02
Speaker 1: There's also I used to love this at the very
33:05
Speaker 1: beginning of sobriety, where it was like I need something
33:08
Speaker 1: in a short glass. Have them do sparkling water and
33:12
Speaker 1: then mostly pineapple juice, so like pineapple juice, splash of
33:18
Speaker 1: the sparkling water, lime, and then if they can do
33:22
Speaker 1: it to heen rim. That's like a.
33:25
Speaker 2: Skinny margarita vibe, isn't it. No, maybe not, but I mean,
33:30
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds great. It sounds like.
33:32
Speaker 1: Take out the juice. I think of the skinny margarita
33:35
Speaker 1: is literally just tequila and like a lot of lime juice, right,
33:37
Speaker 1: and maybe a splash of sparkling water.
33:39
Speaker 2: I don't know there is because all the things you're
33:41
Speaker 2: saying seem like they wouldn't be a sugar overload either,
33:44
Speaker 2: which I love. But if you are looking for a
33:46
Speaker 2: sugar not a sugar overload, but like a simple syrup,
33:50
Speaker 2: which is just sugar and water heated until the sugar dissolves.
33:55
Speaker 2: A simple syrup with like grapefruit, ginger, beer, sparkling water,
34:04
Speaker 2: it's basically a mule like a moscow. Mule, but just
34:07
Speaker 2: take out the alcohol and that's really good too, Like
34:11
Speaker 2: Kyle and I. If I'm feeling like Cocktailey but don't
34:13
Speaker 2: want alcohol, I'll make like a sweet sugary drink like that.
34:17
Speaker 1: You know what. I like more like sour over sweet. Yeah.
34:22
Speaker 2: And you said you were never when you did drink.
34:24
Speaker 2: You were never a big sweet drink person, were you?
34:26
Speaker 2: You were just like vodka vodka soda, Yeah, with no fruit.
34:30
Speaker 1: I didn't want lime, lemon, nothing really.
34:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, no margarita's ever, or did you?
34:36
Speaker 1: When I went to a Mexican jokay, I would get
34:38
Speaker 1: a margarita, but it wasn't like that was my go
34:42
Speaker 1: doo too, and I would usually only have one of
34:44
Speaker 1: a fun drink. And then it was like all vodka sodas.
34:47
Speaker 1: Smart love mes vodka sodas. I love the best. Yeah.
34:54
Speaker 1: Like when I watch someone order a drink and it's
34:57
Speaker 1: a vodka soda, I'm like, the first sip you're about
35:00
Speaker 1: to have, Oh lifetime ever?
35:02
Speaker 2: Really? I hate vodka.
35:03
Speaker 1: What do you like? Tequila? Yeah?
35:05
Speaker 2: But even tequila, it's been like giving me rash, just
35:07
Speaker 2: like I just don't really drink, you know that, Kaya,
35:09
Speaker 2: I don't either yeah, or.
35:11
Speaker 1: Like Rose, Okay, that's nice. There was another funny part
35:15
Speaker 1: season four where Brittany I think we're in Hawaii. We
35:18
Speaker 1: are in Hawaii, and I'm like wanting to bond with
35:20
Speaker 1: the group. I had my little black thonged bikini on
35:22
Speaker 1: because everyone was like she went took her top off
35:24
Speaker 1: at the waterfall. So I was like, tomorrow, I'm gonna
35:26
Speaker 1: bring my ass out. Then you guys want to call
35:29
Speaker 1: me a ho, I'm gonna show you a ho bitch.
35:35
Speaker 1: And we're sitting on these floaties and Brittany wants to
35:39
Speaker 1: play a game called baseball bat and we're like, okay,
35:42
Speaker 1: what is in She was like, you literally passed the
35:44
Speaker 1: bottle and drink it, and I'm like, this is not
35:46
Speaker 1: a game, this is just us passing. I'm for drinking.
35:50
Speaker 1: I take a sip and I know it's tequila. I
35:52
Speaker 1: hate tequila, but like, I want to fit in and
35:54
Speaker 1: I want this could be a Bonnie experience. We're on
35:57
Speaker 1: this big floaty together. I take a sip, it's warm,
36:00
Speaker 1: and I vomit into the water. There's a vomit floating around.
36:05
Speaker 2: Is this on the show.
36:07
Speaker 1: I don't know that it made the cut, but it
36:09
Speaker 1: was definitely on the show. I don't know that they
36:12
Speaker 1: showed me. I do know that they showed me bending over.
36:15
Speaker 1: I was throwing up, But I think they were like, oh,
36:17
Speaker 1: this is a great time to show that Lalla's ass
36:20
Speaker 1: and vagina are hanging out. They had to blur it
36:25
Speaker 1: because I had on a skippy bikini.
36:27
Speaker 2: Wait, so you threw up. There's vomit floating. Do people
36:30
Speaker 2: all like run out or is it not even that traumatic?
36:33
Speaker 1: No? They were gross. Just like if I hated it's
36:36
Speaker 1: some dumb bitch who took her top off in front
36:39
Speaker 1: of my dude and then had her ass out and
36:41
Speaker 1: she threw up, I'd be like, bitch, you a rookie,
36:44
Speaker 1: get off this raft.
36:46
Speaker 2: It's so funny to think about if you would. Do
36:49
Speaker 2: you think you would get along with a U?
36:52
Speaker 1: No, because I've met bitches like me and I can't
36:54
Speaker 1: stand him. Really Yeah, I'm like, oh, you're annoying, And
36:56
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's because you're looking in a mirror.
36:59
Speaker 2: Basically, that is so interesting.
37:02
Speaker 1: I do not connect with people who are like me,
37:05
Speaker 1: not one bit. Really, No, I think I think I'd
37:09
Speaker 1: be annoyed by me back then. Yeah, well, you know
37:12
Speaker 1: what it is what it is. I was young, I
37:14
Speaker 1: was like on a television show and I was like,
37:16
Speaker 1: bring the dogs out.
37:17
Speaker 2: Well, they say that the things you hate most about
37:20
Speaker 2: people is like your deepest insecurity. So I hate I
37:23
Speaker 2: really can't connect with people who come off as desperate
37:26
Speaker 2: to me, and so deep down I must be like desperate.
37:30
Speaker 1: I don't know, You're not.
37:31
Speaker 2: I'm not desperate, but like when I've had a lot
37:35
Speaker 2: of women in my life who like, I love them,
37:39
Speaker 2: but they're they're just there's some sort of desperation, whether
37:42
Speaker 2: or not it's for a man or for like a
37:44
Speaker 2: a job or for and it like triggers me for
37:47
Speaker 2: some reason. And we've had I've had a lot of
37:49
Speaker 2: arguments with women in my life about it, and desperation
37:52
Speaker 2: triggers me. And like I've read so many times, what
37:54
Speaker 2: triggers you and other people? You have some sort of
37:57
Speaker 2: thing in yourself. I don't know who knows that you know?
38:00
Speaker 1: That could be very true. I don't know.
38:02
Speaker 2: I don't feel desperate, but I'm like, well, it triggers
38:04
Speaker 2: me in other people, Like I don't know what I'm saying.
38:06
Speaker 1: Just because you don't connect with someone doesn't mean that
38:08
Speaker 1: person is you Yeah, yeah, yeah's true, Like you don't
38:12
Speaker 1: like people who are desperate, doesn't mean that I were desperate.
38:18
Speaker 1: This person asked, if you could give your younger self
38:20
Speaker 1: any advice, what would you say? I like this because
38:23
Speaker 1: of the topic we're on. Yes, what would you say
38:26
Speaker 1: to your younger self? I don't even know.
38:29
Speaker 2: Honestly, I would say, like, really stick, I know we
38:33
Speaker 2: just said it, but full circle, I would say, your
38:36
Speaker 2: choices and actions have consequences, because when I was younger,
38:40
Speaker 2: I was making bad choices. Yeah, I'm talking like I
38:44
Speaker 2: mean this is when I was, you know, twenty two,
38:46
Speaker 2: but like drinking and driving, like really terrible, terrible, nasty
38:51
Speaker 2: decisions like that. Kyle almost broke when the first year
38:54
Speaker 2: we dated, he almost broke up with me because I
38:56
Speaker 2: were drinking. Well, he found out that I drank drove
39:00
Speaker 2: and he's like I don't stand for that, Like that's
39:03
Speaker 2: like that's the one that he was like, I'm you
39:05
Speaker 2: can go do that with someone else, but not me,
39:07
Speaker 2: And I didn't since then, but I would basically just
39:09
Speaker 2: tell myself like I was like an asshole to certain
39:12
Speaker 2: people I'm talking to, like men are like used people.
39:15
Speaker 2: This was before Kyle but like used men and then
39:18
Speaker 2: like when they showed some sort of emotion, I made
39:20
Speaker 2: them feel like, Okay, no, this was just a hookup,
39:23
Speaker 2: like and like I hurt people's feelings, And I would
39:26
Speaker 2: just say, like, your actions have your actions and choices
39:30
Speaker 2: have consequences, and you need to think about that.
39:32
Speaker 1: That's what I would say, Okay, oh yeah that. I
39:35
Speaker 1: don't even know what I would tell my younger self
39:37
Speaker 1: because I feel like there's so much that has been
39:40
Speaker 1: positive that's come out of my life, and I don't
39:44
Speaker 1: think that i'd be where I am without every move
39:48
Speaker 1: that I made. I think I would just tell her
39:51
Speaker 1: to like give herself some grace and show yourself some
39:55
Speaker 1: compassion and don't beat yourself up, because like I don't
40:00
Speaker 1: even need people to beat me up. Like I'll do
40:02
Speaker 1: that enough for the both of us. You know, if
40:04
Speaker 1: you think I say things and like every post that
40:08
Speaker 1: I do, I will sit and think about for hours,
40:11
Speaker 1: like why did I post? Like I hate social media?
40:14
Speaker 1: Every story I post, every photo, video, whatever it may be,
40:18
Speaker 1: Like I sit there and obsess over it for hours,
40:21
Speaker 1: going you know, what are people going to think? What
40:23
Speaker 1: are people going to say? And I have to talk
40:25
Speaker 1: myself through it, and then you know, so when people
40:28
Speaker 1: say like you're a badass and don't care about certain things, No,
40:31
Speaker 1: I care a lot. I've just tried my best to
40:36
Speaker 1: put the tools that I have to good use on
40:39
Speaker 1: getting over it so that it doesn't it doesn't become debilitating. Yeah,
40:43
Speaker 1: it doesn't keep me from living life and being outspoken.
40:46
Speaker 2: Yeah.
40:47
Speaker 1: I almost feel like, am I too hyper sensitive to things?
40:51
Speaker 1: Am I seeing things for what they are? Like? Is
40:53
Speaker 1: the world really getting to a place where it's evil
40:57
Speaker 1: and I can't understand it? Am I making this up?
40:59
Speaker 1: In my mind? I spiral over these things. Do I
41:02
Speaker 1: share my thoughts or do I just shut the fuck up?
41:05
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
41:08
Speaker 2: Question off of that, around this time two years ago,
41:12
Speaker 2: what would you tell yourself and what do you hope
41:16
Speaker 2: yourself a year from now will feel?
41:20
Speaker 1: I think when this all happened, what I would have
41:23
Speaker 1: told myself? Just I don't think I would have told
41:26
Speaker 1: myself anything.
41:27
Speaker 2: Two years ago. No, you would let yourself just experience
41:30
Speaker 2: what's coming.
41:31
Speaker 1: I had to. I experienced everything. I mean, there's going
41:37
Speaker 1: to be a day where I'm going to have to
41:39
Speaker 1: do intense therapy to like not have trust issues anymore.
41:44
Speaker 1: But as far as like just the hand that I
41:47
Speaker 1: was dealt in this situation, it was like I did everything.
41:53
Speaker 1: I was in survival mode and to think about the
41:58
Speaker 1: things that I and having to go through, and you
42:01
Speaker 1: have to remember this is not if it just affected me,
42:06
Speaker 1: we would be in a very different situation. I can
42:09
Speaker 1: get over things, I really can. But when you have
42:13
Speaker 1: a little innocent human that you brought into the world
42:16
Speaker 1: who had no say in the matter at all, and
42:20
Speaker 1: you're you giving up because it's easier for you, the
42:25
Speaker 1: child is going to suffer those consequences. So there's nothing
42:29
Speaker 1: I could have told myself back then except for reminding
42:33
Speaker 1: myself every day that everything is temporary, nothing is forever.
42:38
Speaker 1: You know, like this will come to an end. I
42:41
Speaker 1: don't know what the end is going to look like,
42:44
Speaker 1: but I have to just have faith that whoever is
42:47
Speaker 1: looking out for Ocean, her wellbeing will be protected in
42:51
Speaker 1: the end period. So I have to believe that something
42:55
Speaker 1: greater than myself, something greater than Ocean, is looking out
42:58
Speaker 1: for her. I'm going to be just fine. Yeah, there's
43:01
Speaker 1: a bigger thing happening here, and it's not just about me,
43:05
Speaker 1: and it's not just about ocean. It's about what's wrong.
43:09
Speaker 1: This is about what is broken in the system. And
43:12
Speaker 1: I'm a privileged person. I can't imagine what some people
43:16
Speaker 1: go through in this system. It is beyond heartbreaking. So
43:22
Speaker 1: I would just tell myself that things are temporary and
43:24
Speaker 1: then moving forward, a year from now, I'll be free.
43:29
Speaker 2: Yeah you will. And not to confuse anyone, Sorry I
43:32
Speaker 2: said two years ago. It was only a year and
43:34
Speaker 2: a few months ago. I didn't want to confuse. I
43:35
Speaker 2: don't know why I thought it was two years ago.
43:37
Speaker 1: You're fine. I also want to say I know that
43:42
Speaker 1: it's been a year and some change of podcasts that
43:46
Speaker 1: are all over the place, and I want to thank
43:48
Speaker 1: everyone for allowing me to go from like really funny
43:53
Speaker 1: talk about sex and all of these things, to going
43:55
Speaker 1: deep and sobbing to ending on a high note. I
44:00
Speaker 1: know this podcast is very intense. I just just roll
44:06
Speaker 1: with me. Guys. I'm praying that it ends soon, but
44:09
Speaker 1: like I'm in it. This is my life.
44:13
Speaker 2: You're giving them Lalla, which when we asked a few
44:15
Speaker 2: months ago, what do you guys want? So many messages
44:18
Speaker 2: said more Lalla more her life more her, this, more
44:21
Speaker 2: her that, and this is your life.
44:23
Speaker 1: This is my teachable moment. Lala, We're gonna see if
44:26
Speaker 1: you do know how to shut the fuck up. Yeah.
44:29
Speaker 2: It's hard though, because allala that shut the fuck shuts
44:32
Speaker 2: the fuck up. It's not a world I want to
44:34
Speaker 2: live in.
44:35
Speaker 1: I don't want to live in that world either.
44:37
Speaker 2: It's like, that's not you. You give your opinion and
44:40
Speaker 2: it helps people. It's not like you give your opinion
44:42
Speaker 2: on a lot of things and people are like, this
44:45
Speaker 2: just ruined my day. Thanks a lot. We get dms
44:47
Speaker 2: that are like, thank you so much, I've gone through
44:50
Speaker 2: this blah blah blah blah blah. She keeps me going,
44:53
Speaker 2: so all.
44:54
Speaker 1: Right, I love that. Mm hmmm. This person wants to know,
44:56
Speaker 1: did you experience physical withdrawal when you stop drinking? Ooh ooh,
45:02
Speaker 1: good question. Yes you did. Oh yeah, like the cold
45:07
Speaker 1: sweats and jitters and like not. I mean, luckily I
45:12
Speaker 1: didn't have to go to a treatment center. I did
45:16
Speaker 1: tell my sober coach, the first person I reached out
45:19
Speaker 1: to when I got sober. She said, with what you're
45:22
Speaker 1: telling me because I shared my story, She said, I
45:25
Speaker 1: would highly recommend that you go to a treatment center.
45:27
Speaker 1: This sounds very intense, and I said, I am so
45:31
Speaker 1: in this that I don't feel like I need a
45:36
Speaker 1: treatment center, which, by the way, if you need one, go,
45:38
Speaker 1: but I knew mentally I'm fucking done like it ends
45:44
Speaker 1: to like it ended, We're done now. I just need
45:47
Speaker 1: you to help me stay here, I said. If I relapse,
45:51
Speaker 1: then I'll check in same day, no problem. But I
45:55
Speaker 1: did have the withdrawals.
45:57
Speaker 2: You're dead, Yeah, is that like nausea, shay sweating?
46:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just like the cold sweats and like
46:03
Speaker 1: a deep depression. But it was like it was a definite,
46:07
Speaker 1: like physical reaction to not I mean, my body had
46:10
Speaker 1: been used to it for a really long time and
46:12
Speaker 1: super heavily. After my dad died. It was like morning
46:15
Speaker 1: until I passed out. Wow.
46:17
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you could do, just in case
46:19
Speaker 2: anyone's going through this that helps? Is it like or
46:21
Speaker 2: is it like? No, you just gotta get through it.
46:25
Speaker 1: That's the thing is everyone's addiction looks different. So I
46:29
Speaker 1: don't want to see Because I'm no doctor, I just
46:31
Speaker 1: can speak from my personal experience. So if you told
46:34
Speaker 1: me that you were exactly like me, then I would say,
46:36
Speaker 1: like you got this. But I do, like I've always said,
46:40
Speaker 1: take advantage of people who are experts in fields, like
46:45
Speaker 1: reach out to them. They're here for us when we
46:47
Speaker 1: need them, like take advantage of it. And but rehab
46:53
Speaker 1: is expensive. I know, it's beyond expensive. And that's why
46:57
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for the program that I'm in, because it
47:00
Speaker 1: doesn't matter where you come from, what your financial situation is,
47:05
Speaker 1: You're welcome at any point in time to come here
47:09
Speaker 1: for free.
47:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. It's like everything costs money nowadays, and
47:14
Speaker 2: one of the most incredible programs that has helped millions
47:18
Speaker 2: of people is free.
47:19
Speaker 1: I know, and I always feel guilty because when I'm
47:22
Speaker 1: in my meetings, you know, we talk about how the
47:25
Speaker 1: program should not be brought into radio television, and I
47:30
Speaker 1: talk about the program a lot. Obviously, I would never
47:33
Speaker 1: share anyone else's experience because it's anonymous, but I just
47:37
Speaker 1: feel this need to share that, like this program has
47:42
Speaker 1: saved my life in not just drinking in many areas
47:47
Speaker 1: where like I'm having a rough day and I'm not
47:51
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna drink. I don't need a meeting because
47:53
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna drink. I'm just having a
47:55
Speaker 1: rough day. I step in that meeting and I leave
47:57
Speaker 1: feeling like I could take on the world. I'm revived.
48:00
Speaker 2: I think it's beautiful sharing it. I mean, I understand,
48:02
Speaker 2: I don't understand, like I've never been in it, but
48:06
Speaker 2: normalizing being able to say, if you want to, yeah,
48:09
Speaker 2: I go to aa ar. I because on another podcast
48:12
Speaker 2: I listened to armtare Expert. He always talks about his program,
48:16
Speaker 2: being in the program in sobriety, you talk about it.
48:19
Speaker 2: I think it's.
48:20
Speaker 1: Incredible, the fears you have raising a little girl in
48:23
Speaker 1: a world like we have right now. Oh well, I
48:27
Speaker 1: watched twenty twenty on the Idaho University murders last night,
48:32
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's it. Ocean's not going to
48:34
Speaker 1: college anywhere. Yeah, she can go to college where I live.
48:38
Speaker 1: This is where she'll be staying. I will drop her
48:40
Speaker 1: off at school, I will wait for her to be done,
48:43
Speaker 1: I will walk her to her next class, and then
48:46
Speaker 1: I'll take her home. This couple who was madly in
48:51
Speaker 1: love and all of a sudden, you know, he's they've
48:53
Speaker 1: got children, and then they get divorced and he's put
48:56
Speaker 1: a hit out on his wife. Okay, you're never getting married.
49:00
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fears. My biggest one though,
49:03
Speaker 1: was social media at a young age, because Ocean really
49:08
Speaker 1: isn't into like electronics right now. I had this I
49:11
Speaker 1: have an ancient iPad and I just cleared off last
49:15
Speaker 1: night and I'm like, and Mom's like, you need to
49:18
Speaker 1: order a case. And I'm like, I don't even know
49:20
Speaker 1: what decade my bad is from how I was supposed to
49:23
Speaker 1: order a case. I don't even think they make cases.
49:25
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to eBay that shit. But she like
49:29
Speaker 1: had no interest in it. I was showing her all
49:31
Speaker 1: of these things that she can do on the iPad,
49:32
Speaker 1: and she was like, she had no interest. She wanted
49:35
Speaker 1: to go and play with her, like cleaning supplies that
49:37
Speaker 1: I got her. She loves cleaning the house and my
49:40
Speaker 1: mom last met yesterday. She was like, Okay, now get
49:43
Speaker 1: because my housekeeper who you know her? I love her
49:48
Speaker 1: so much. So she says, God, bless you, La Lah,
49:51
Speaker 1: thank you so much. And I'm like, why are you
49:52
Speaker 1: thinking me like you're you are you keep your energy,
49:56
Speaker 1: keeps my life together. She's amazing. She's amazing. Unfortunately, she
50:01
Speaker 1: was in a car accident so she can't work for
50:03
Speaker 1: the next month, and she was like, I hope my
50:05
Speaker 1: job is still there. I was like, girl, don't worry
50:08
Speaker 1: about the job, Like, I just want to make sure
50:10
Speaker 1: you're okay. Yeah, and my mother, I'm watching her and
50:14
Speaker 1: she's telling Ocean to clean underneath this table and I
50:18
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you really are putting her to work.
50:22
Speaker 2: She but I've seen her with like that little broom.
50:24
Speaker 2: She loves it.
50:25
Speaker 1: She loves it.
50:27
Speaker 2: That's really cute.
50:28
Speaker 1: So she would rather do that than like be on electronics.
50:31
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be it for everything.
50:32
Speaker 1: She's only you know, twenty two months, so the phone
50:37
Speaker 1: scares me. I'm worried that she's gonna go to school,
50:39
Speaker 1: come home. Tell me that Elizabeth has a new iPhone
50:41
Speaker 1: and she wants it. And Elizabeth has Instagram. Why can
50:44
Speaker 1: I have Instagram? It's like, you ain't have an Instagram.
50:46
Speaker 2: Kate Winslet, she was the one in the Titanic, right, Yeah,
50:50
Speaker 2: made a video the other day and she was like,
50:53
Speaker 2: and I loved it, but she was like, yeah, my
50:55
Speaker 2: kids don't have It's not exactly this, so don't quote me,
50:58
Speaker 2: but she was basically saying it's okay to I tell
51:00
Speaker 2: your kids no my kids don't have social media. My
51:02
Speaker 2: kids don't use iPhones all the time. Like She's like,
51:06
Speaker 2: it's okay, Like they're gonna be pissed at you, and
51:09
Speaker 2: that's okay. You're just gonna have to tell them like
51:12
Speaker 2: this is why, this is how I feel, and life
51:15
Speaker 2: goes on. And I was like, yeah, that's a great,
51:18
Speaker 2: that's a good thing. I mean, I'm gonna be a
51:20
Speaker 2: helicopter parent. I don't like all the things you just said,
51:22
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna walk you to school. You're not going
51:25
Speaker 2: to college. I'm like, yes, that's but like they gotta live.
51:29
Speaker 1: They do have to bill rebellry. Yeah, no, they will rebel.
51:33
Speaker 1: I watched friends in high school rebel like the strict
51:36
Speaker 1: Mormon kids giving blowies behind the bleachers and me I
51:40
Speaker 1: was like, no, that is naughty.
51:43
Speaker 2: And you had a very open family. I was a
51:45
Speaker 2: rebeller because I had a very drink you know, drinking
51:49
Speaker 2: at fifteen. Like let's because I had a family who
51:51
Speaker 2: was like no alcohol, no sex, know this.
51:54
Speaker 1: But then again, I didn't have my first drink until
51:56
Speaker 1: I had graduated from high school. And I'm in a
52:00
Speaker 1: so I don't know. Yeah, we just come how we
52:03
Speaker 1: are like Ocean. Because there's a group of moms, it's
52:08
Speaker 1: natural for us to be like, oh, so and so
52:10
Speaker 1: is doing this that Ocean's not doing, or Ocean's doing
52:13
Speaker 1: something that so and so is not doing. Like we
52:14
Speaker 1: have these conversations and I tell people they come exactly
52:19
Speaker 1: how they are. I haven't done anything specific with Ocean
52:22
Speaker 1: that has made her into.
52:26
Speaker 2: A genius, perfect child that she is. No, she's so sweet,
52:32
Speaker 2: like the video we posted on the podcast Instagram last
52:36
Speaker 2: week of her holding Summer Moon's hand.
52:39
Speaker 1: She's sweet. She's very sweet.
52:42
Speaker 2: And I think they're like good friends now, aren't they
52:45
Speaker 2: Ocean's Summer Moon. Oh yeah, that is so cute that
52:49
Speaker 2: it's so cute, and.
52:50
Speaker 1: Says someer Moon Moon, and so goes.
52:55
Speaker 2: Oh Sin, Ohsin, and they give each other hugs and
52:58
Speaker 2: they like sit on the couch and watch TV together.
53:00
Speaker 1: And then we have to teach them how to share.
53:02
Speaker 1: There were many meltdowns in Palm Springs this weekend over
53:05
Speaker 1: this fucking like block thing, and Sena sees so she
53:09
Speaker 1: is the type where she goes, I have another one.
53:12
Speaker 1: I'm the type where if you can't share, ain't no
53:15
Speaker 1: one playing with it? Right? So pick either sit down
53:20
Speaker 1: and share it or it's being taken away.
53:22
Speaker 2: That's a great question. And I know we're like running
53:26
Speaker 2: low on time, but as two mothers who are friends
53:29
Speaker 2: who parent differently, every mother parents differently, does that get harder?
53:32
Speaker 2: Do you guys kind of figure out ways around it?
53:35
Speaker 2: Like the sharing, Like you kind of like, okay, well
53:37
Speaker 2: I would take the toy away, but if you have
53:39
Speaker 2: another one.
53:40
Speaker 1: You know, I'm kind of laid back if she wants
53:43
Speaker 1: to give summer. If they has another one, she wants
53:46
Speaker 1: to give it, great. Yeah it I'm more of like,
53:50
Speaker 1: you know, take the toy. I don't care if you
53:52
Speaker 1: have a meltdown. Yeah, you're not playing with it. You
53:55
Speaker 1: either share or no one gets it. Like they were
53:58
Speaker 1: also fighting over this drawn and my mom goes, well,
54:01
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna order one on Amazon so the
54:03
Speaker 1: next time we come they both have the same one
54:04
Speaker 1: and they don't have to fight over it. I said, no,
54:07
Speaker 1: I'm not teaching Ocean that if she has a meltdown
54:12
Speaker 1: that means that we just go buy her one of
54:14
Speaker 1: her own. No, it's I said, she has a drawing pad,
54:18
Speaker 1: but it's not like that. My mom says, I don't
54:21
Speaker 1: give a damn.
54:22
Speaker 2: Do you realize this is so funny what you just
54:25
Speaker 2: did because you said, Ocean comes how she is, it's
54:27
Speaker 2: nothing I've done to make her so sweet, And then
54:29
Speaker 2: you literally proceeded to say all the things that would
54:32
Speaker 2: make a child sweet and so it is your parenting.
54:35
Speaker 1: Okay, I guess it is. I don't know.
54:38
Speaker 2: Those are like, yes, those are the things that would
54:40
Speaker 2: make a child sweet and share and not you know.
54:43
Speaker 1: That's true because Ocean now counts to ten and we
54:46
Speaker 1: like put on that Miss Rachel, which has like, well
54:49
Speaker 1: you're gonna know, you're gonna know. My mom and I
54:52
Speaker 1: look at each other and go like, I fucking hate this?
54:56
Speaker 1: Is it a YouTube all moms do?
54:58
Speaker 2: Yes?
54:58
Speaker 1: And it has like fifty minutes views just this woman who,
55:02
Speaker 1: by the way, you can just tell she's just her
55:05
Speaker 1: life calling was to teach children because Ocean's in her,
55:09
Speaker 1: in her covered in food, in her high chair with
55:12
Speaker 1: her arms in the air. One do three. That's so cute,
55:19
Speaker 1: loving every second of it, which is like, Okay, this
55:23
Speaker 1: is totally worth it just watching you.
55:24
Speaker 2: But this is some you're gonna know, Miss Rachel.
55:30
Speaker 1: Miss Rachel on YouTube.
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Speaker 2: See now, maybe if I could go back in life,
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Speaker 2: I would make YouTube kids videos because.
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Speaker 1: My god, I mean in the YouTube with Miss Rachel. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: someone plays the guitar and teaches them how to crawl
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Speaker 1: like a crab.
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Speaker 2: That's so cute. Are they is this like good production
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Speaker 2: or are they just like in their living.
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Speaker 1: Room not at all? Not good? Like a green screen
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Speaker 1: that's awesome and with horrible lighting.
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Speaker 2: Good because the kids don't care.
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Speaker 1: No, the kids don't care. And ocean yeah is a
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Speaker 1: learning from miss Rachel. I will tell you what.
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Speaker 2: Yes, counting colors. She's so smart. Yeah, I was like,
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Speaker 2: this is I like, picked up a marker the other
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Speaker 2: day and went to tell Oshan it was a blue
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Speaker 2: marker and went to say, this is blue. And before
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Speaker 2: I could get anything out, she goes blue. I was like, well, okay,
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Speaker 2: I can't teach you any I can't teach you nothing she.
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Speaker 1: Got Miss Rachel. So you're right, there are things. But
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Speaker 1: what's interesting is Brock and I kind of parent the
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Speaker 1: same way.
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Speaker 2: I could see that. I could see that, yeah, from.
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Speaker 1: Marion will go down for a nap and Sina will
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Speaker 1: you know Summer's crying? Yeah, and she is so cute.
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Speaker 1: She's like, I don't want her to be traumatized. And
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Speaker 1: I'm like, Sina, she's in a beautiful home in Palm Springs,
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Speaker 1: in a fabulous she is not going to be traumatized
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Speaker 1: by this, Okay, She's gonna be just fine. Where Like
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Speaker 1: Ocean was down for a nap, she wakes up literally
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Speaker 1: cries for two seconds, and she was like, Ocean's crying,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, I hear her. She's fine, she'll
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Speaker 1: figure it out. She's still going. Ifive ten minutes past,
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Speaker 1: she's still going, I'll go in there. But right now
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Speaker 1: she's just maybe searching for her bottle. Yeah, I know
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Speaker 1: the cry.
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Speaker 2: You know the cry if there was something wrong, you
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Speaker 2: would know. That's the kind of mom I want to be.
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Speaker 2: And I don't think I'm gonna be that way. And
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Speaker 2: that's okay. It's gonna take work. But even now, I
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Speaker 2: could tell I'm helicopter, and like even when you're I'm
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Speaker 2: sitting in the office with like you and Lisa, and
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Speaker 2: we'll be eating lunch, and like I'll walk to the
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Speaker 2: kitchen and bring Ocean with me and get a snack
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Speaker 2: for myself. Yeah, like trail mix and I'll pour it
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Speaker 2: like little pieces or whatever, get whatever for myself and
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Speaker 2: I'll pour it in my hand. And I know Ocean
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Speaker 2: has to eat lunch. And I know that you and
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Speaker 2: Lisa are like Ocean has to eat lunch. But if
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Speaker 2: she like points to an eminem, I can't not give
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Speaker 2: it to her. And like the other day I brought
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Speaker 2: her back in here and she like pointed to an
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Speaker 2: eminem I was eating, and I was like, okay, you
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Speaker 2: could have it, and I like broke it and gave
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Speaker 2: her a piece. And then I heard Lisa go like, no, Ocean,
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Speaker 2: you have to eat your lunch. And I'm like, damn it.
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Speaker 2: I know, but it's so hard for me, Like I
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Speaker 2: want to give them everything they want, I know, and
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Speaker 2: that's like not the way you mother. I just want
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Speaker 2: to like you want it, you got it totally. It's hard,
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Speaker 2: and I think I'm not I'm just gonna have to
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Speaker 2: be thank god I have Kyle because I'm just gonna
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Speaker 2: like have to work because even with Margot, he's like
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Speaker 2: you let her. When I met Kyle, Margot was a
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Speaker 2: perfect dog. And now she like begs and does all
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Speaker 2: the things.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but isn't she getting older?
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Speaker 2: She's getting older.
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Speaker 1: She's just's Yeah, Lily begs eats things off the table now,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know what, you deserve it.
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Speaker 2: And they have short lives. They don't live to fifty.
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Speaker 1: Eat off the table, eat off the table again. I
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Speaker 1: got much bigger things to worry about than Lily eating
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Speaker 1: all of Ocean's lunch off the table when she's finished
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Speaker 1: with it.
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Speaker 2: But it's good to see you as a mom because
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Speaker 2: I'm like clocking it and like, Okay, you can be
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Speaker 2: chill and your child can cry and it's not going
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Speaker 2: to like be traumatized.
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Speaker 1: She's not gonna shouldn't live the dream.
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Speaker 2: I know that what I'm saying. She's like the most
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Speaker 2: sweet the sweetest child. And I'm like, okay, I need
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Speaker 2: to learn.
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Speaker 1: I will tell you something. Even when you put your
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Speaker 1: kid in check, they're still running. Shit. Imagine if you don't, oh,
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Speaker 1: they're running. I've never I'm like, how am I in
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Speaker 1: negotiation with a chick who can't even put a full
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Speaker 1: sentence together.
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Speaker 2: In negotiatation? That's so true, that's so funny.
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Speaker 1: It's awesome. It really is awesome wild, you know. So
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Speaker 1: that's what parent is like. There's my concerns, my life story.
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Speaker 1: I love you guys so much thank you for tuning
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Speaker 1: into another chaotic episode of To Give Them La La Podcast,
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Speaker 1: and I can't wait to talk to you guys next
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Speaker 1: week