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Chuck & Buck 3-23 Hour 3: Are we finally done with Cal vs Randy? JSN is locked in and it's vote week! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Jeron J. You mean, like opening day two, it's like
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Speaker 1: we're building towards.
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Speaker 2: Something, a lot of kind of bed's like that, Okay,
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Speaker 2: epic he's doing some work epic music.
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Speaker 3: Hey, Yeah, it's like we're building swords something special. Good morning, Chuck,
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Speaker 3: Buck and Ashley with you so glad that I'm going
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Speaker 3: to miss the sixty degree in sunny weekend here in
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Speaker 3: Seattle to go to Arizona this weekend where it's a
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Speaker 3: thousand and six.
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Speaker 4: That'll be fun for you.
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Speaker 3: It'll be awesome.
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Speaker 4: You love it when it's hot.
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Speaker 3: You know how much I hate sixty and Sonny.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely not your your favorite.
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Speaker 3: No, not my favorite, absolute favorite, like number one ranked
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Speaker 3: in my heart favorite weather of all time.
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Speaker 5: No, no, not me.
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Speaker 6: It'd be so much fun to like have your shoes
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Speaker 6: melting underneath you while you walk. That'll be awesome.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to have to suffer and play golf in
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Speaker 2: that sixty degrees.
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Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, man, some wines sunshine.
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Speaker 5: Rethink my decisions in life.
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Speaker 6: But I know you lived there, but just just so
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Speaker 6: you know, it's a dry heat, so it's too bad.
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Speaker 7: Ry heat. Yeah, you're right.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, your buttons will stay dry, right, yeah.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it'll feel very refreshing.
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Speaker 3: Well, good morning, eight o'clock hour. Yes, here we are
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Speaker 3: to the madness. But I do want to talk and
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Speaker 3: I wanted quite a bit of time here. I wanted
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Speaker 3: a little bit of room on the dance floor to
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Speaker 3: discuss the story from over the weekend. Baseball wise, we're
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Speaker 3: three days away from the start of the season and
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Speaker 3: Randy a Rose Arena and Cal Rawley would have apparently
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Speaker 3: kissed and made up.
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Speaker 5: The story was I think.
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Speaker 3: In the local newspaper that Randy had apologized to Cal
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Speaker 3: where Cal and his comments to the media made it
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Speaker 3: very clear that we'd apologized to each other and that
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Speaker 3: we were in a good place. And I think that's
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Speaker 3: an important distinction to make for Randy's part. The quote
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Speaker 3: that's going around. I understand that with opening day a
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Speaker 3: few days away. I don't want it to be a distraction.
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Speaker 3: Cal and I have talked, and I apologize for what
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Speaker 3: I said after the game.
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Speaker 5: Nothing in the WBC.
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Speaker 3: Takes away from the fact that we are brothers and teammates,
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Speaker 3: and so yes, once they got back together under the
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Speaker 3: same roof, Col's no longer wearing another jersey, albeit a
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Speaker 3: team USA jersey. Randy's not in his team Mexico Jersey.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like it took very long to squash
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Speaker 3: this thing. I don't know if they two gentlemen did
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Speaker 3: it on their own, if Cal sought him out and
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Speaker 3: cornered him to make sure, or if Dan, Jerry and
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Speaker 3: Justin already had a plan to put him in the
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Speaker 3: same room together. I don't know the details, but both
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Speaker 3: are saying that they apologize to the other and they
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Speaker 3: believe that the thing is snuffed out.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think you're right.
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Speaker 6: It's a good distinction to recognize that, you know, Cal
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Speaker 6: said that we're both sorry, and you know we talked
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Speaker 6: it out and we're in good place because it isn't
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Speaker 6: a matter. I mean, it really got kind of overblown
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Speaker 6: to sign because well, I mean, I think it's because
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Speaker 6: of the.
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Speaker 3: Pel was the worst person in the world according to
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Speaker 3: some for a week.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, because it's because of what Randy said out
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Speaker 6: towards right. If he says, oh, he's just fired up
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Speaker 6: because you know, he's on USA and I'm on Team
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Speaker 6: Mexico and he just didn't want to didn't want to,
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Speaker 6: you know, shake my hand.
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Speaker 7: Whatever, Fine, I don't want to be your teammate for
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Speaker 7: this game. Anyways.
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Speaker 6: If he says something and it's he just takes it
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Speaker 6: as it's not a slide against him, it's not.
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Speaker 7: He's not really being personal.
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Speaker 6: It's not a personal attack against you, then it wouldn't
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Speaker 6: have turned into quite the big deal that it turned into.
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Speaker 6: And so I we all kind of figured, we talked
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Speaker 6: about it that once they get back together and that
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Speaker 6: they will smooth this thing over. It's not going to
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Speaker 6: be something that they just now don't talk to each
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Speaker 6: other and despise one another. It's not that big of
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Speaker 6: a deal. It just got blown up. And then once
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Speaker 6: it becomes a big deal, then yeah, there's a bunch
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Speaker 6: of people just jumping on the side of how can
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Speaker 6: col Rawley not just shake his teammate's hand. It's like,
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Speaker 6: you don't have to do that. That's not like a
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Speaker 6: not everybody shakes hands with the guy every time they
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Speaker 6: come up to the dish, whether he's a teammate or not.
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Speaker 6: So I'm glad that it's water under the bridge. I'm
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Speaker 6: glad that they both apologize and understand why it came
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Speaker 6: out the way it did. I mean, it's understandable why
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Speaker 6: Randy felt the way he did, but it's not necessary.
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Speaker 6: I don't think it's correct if that makes sense, and
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Speaker 6: it's understandable why Cal can say, yeah, I kind of
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Speaker 6: wish I wouldn't have done it that way, just simply
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Speaker 6: because of the fallout that ensued afterwards. So yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 6: I would like to think that they're both grown men
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Speaker 6: and they just did it on their own. But if
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Speaker 6: they hadn't done it on their own, or if I'm
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Speaker 6: Dan Wilson, I probably am going to not even given
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Speaker 6: an opportunity to not be done right. I don't want
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Speaker 6: him walking by each other in the clubhouse one time
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Speaker 6: and not squashing this thing.
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Speaker 7: So it would be all right, when are you coming in?
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Speaker 7: When are you gonna be in? Cal? All right, Randy, Hey,
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Speaker 7: Cal's gonna be here.
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Speaker 6: Both you guys in my office We're gonna get this
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Speaker 6: thing snuffed out real quick and in a hurry. And
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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure it went down the way that they're
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Speaker 6: saying it.
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Speaker 7: Right.
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Speaker 6: We don't know for sure always what happens and then
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Speaker 6: versus what is put out there in the media.
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Speaker 7: But this is one that.
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Speaker 6: I would be willing to bet just about anything that
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Speaker 6: they sat down and said. Dude, I wasn't meaning it bad.
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Speaker 6: I know I probably shouldn't what I said afterwards. We're good, right,
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Speaker 6: We're brothers. Yep, hug boom out.
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Speaker 2: I think when that first statement came out from the
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Speaker 2: Mariners that it was like, Oh, I'm back here, and
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Speaker 2: this is all that I'm putting everything else behind me.
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Speaker 2: I think you guys probably remember I was telling you
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Speaker 2: I was very unsatisfied with that statement, just because it
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Speaker 2: had enough. It didn't address the actual issue. It didn't
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Speaker 2: seem like anything was actually resolved. It just seemed like
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Speaker 2: I'm putting out a statement because I'm supposed to put
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Speaker 2: out a statement, and this is the very vague kind
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Speaker 2: of thing.
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Speaker 4: I just wanted this, like what has happened now?
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Speaker 2: That's all I wanted was something definitive, like, hey, these
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Speaker 2: guys talked about it. It was a misunderstanding on both sides,
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Speaker 2: whether or not or whatever the specifics were. If Cal
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Speaker 2: had asked Randy to not do it and Randy still
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Speaker 2: did it and Cal offended him, and you know, Randy
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Speaker 2: spoke out, all of it is done. And the fact
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Speaker 2: that he even said I apologized for the comments I
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Speaker 2: made after the game, I mean, it's there shouldn't be
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Speaker 2: another issue moving forward.
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Speaker 7: I think that.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the reason the problem here is that Col's
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Speaker 3: devotion to teammate, That's what caused all of this. It
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Speaker 3: was Team USA had a plan for how they were
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Speaker 3: going to approach this and it was going to be
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Speaker 3: almost like it was an US against them. It was
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Speaker 3: like a soldier like kind of approach that they were
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Speaker 3: going to take, and not a lot of rosters in
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Speaker 3: the WBC. Yeah, we're going to take that approach. And
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Speaker 3: then they made it very clear that that's.
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Speaker 5: Not the way that we want to do this.
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Speaker 3: I mean, they were going over the top after the
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Speaker 3: handshake gate occurred, but it was Col's devotion to the
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Speaker 3: teammate that kept perpetuating it. Because he was still all
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Speaker 3: of Team USA's teammates at that point. He can't very
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Speaker 3: well come out the next day and say, I know
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Speaker 3: it's silly what they've asked me to do, but this
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Speaker 3: is what we're doing, and so I'm going to be
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Speaker 3: TI USA teammate if I don't do it this way.
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Speaker 7: Uh.
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Speaker 5: And maybe maybe it was his idea. I have no idea.
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Speaker 3: But the fact that it became such a big thing
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Speaker 3: and it didn't get squashed sooner is because Cal still
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Speaker 3: had to be teammates with all of those guys on
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Speaker 3: Team USA until the tournament came to a close, right,
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Speaker 3: and so they didn't have the opportunity to get together.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I never really viewed it as a big deal. I
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Speaker 3: hate that it became a big deal for that. I
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Speaker 3: wish Cal would have just shaken his head because I
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Speaker 3: kind of like seeing that. I kind of like seeing
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Speaker 3: that acknowledgment of good luck, buddy, just you.
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Speaker 4: Know, just a little bump a tap with the gloves.
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Speaker 3: I enjoy that as a baseball fan, he could have.
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Speaker 2: Tapped Randy on the leg with his glove, like just
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Speaker 2: giving him a little I enjoyed that.
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Speaker 3: Obviously they weren't going to do that. Yeah, and it's
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Speaker 3: not a big deal.
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Speaker 4: But it wasn't just Randy, but it ends up being.
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Speaker 5: A big deal.
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Speaker 3: It creates the big deal, and you've got to go
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Speaker 3: what a week, week and a half before you can
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Speaker 3: sit down in a room together and iron and out.
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Speaker 3: And I think Bucky's right. I think it probably got
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Speaker 3: ironed out in thirty seconds, owing there was some big
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Speaker 3: you know, I don't think tissues were brought out to
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Speaker 3: get everybody through it. You know, it probably got hammered
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Speaker 3: out in five minutes and probably got hammered out in
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Speaker 3: two and then they spent three minutes joking and laughing
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Speaker 3: about stuff.
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Speaker 7: Right.
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Speaker 3: The only thing, the only thing, because I'm not behind
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Speaker 3: the curtain, the only thing that I worry about going
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Speaker 3: forward is you know, something goes haywired during the course
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Speaker 3: of the season, somebody Randy gets offended by something else,
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Speaker 3: and does it start all over again? And this time
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Speaker 3: it happens in the locker room. I mean, is it
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Speaker 3: still a thing or not? I guess is what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Do we still have an issue or is it.
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Speaker 7: Dead and buried?
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Speaker 6: I would say that, you know, things can be forgiven
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Speaker 6: but not forgotten. Right, And ultimately, the way in which
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Speaker 6: Cow's WBC went was not good, right. I mean the
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Speaker 6: dude ends up not getting to play in the semis
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Speaker 6: in the finals because of not getting a knock in
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Speaker 6: his first what nine abs, And that's all comes on
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Speaker 6: the heels of basically this story that turns into a giant, smoldering.
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Speaker 7: Heap of you know what.
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Speaker 6: And so I would be willing to bet that there's
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Speaker 6: a part of Cow that's a little bit irritated by
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Speaker 6: this situation because of how he ends up being painted
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Speaker 6: in bad light, because he just flat out is He's
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Speaker 6: in a different mindset than what a lot of the
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Speaker 6: teams in the WBC were going to be in. They
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Speaker 6: want to hug and do the fratizing that it used
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Speaker 6: to be frowned upon. And Cow's a little bit more
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Speaker 6: of an old school player, a little bit of a
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Speaker 6: throwback guy that's just like, no, I'm here for I'm
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Speaker 6: here to do my business and I'm here to take
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Speaker 6: care of what I'm going to take care of. And
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Speaker 6: it doesn't mean anything that we're on the same team
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Speaker 6: right now, we're not on the same team.
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Speaker 7: Blah blah blah.
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised if it's something that's like, Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 6: we're good and but yeah, it could it's ugly head.
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Speaker 6: I don't think that they play the game the same way.
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Speaker 6: Randy rose Arena and Cal Row. You don't approach the
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Speaker 6: game the same way. But you don't have to do
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Speaker 6: that and still be good teammates to one another. I mean,
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Speaker 6: there's zero chance Cal's going to be wishing anything negative
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Speaker 6: on Randy and vice versa. Now, if the season doesn't
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Speaker 6: go the way that they want and there's, you know,
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Speaker 6: something happens where it's you know, Cal thinks that Randy's
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Speaker 6: being lazy or Randy doesn't like getting called out if
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Speaker 6: he says something.
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Speaker 7: If there's something like that happens, Yeah, well.
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Speaker 5: That's what I'm a little worried about it.
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Speaker 7: It's possible. I don't think it's going to happen.
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Speaker 3: Because Randy rose Arena has a reputation along before he
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Speaker 3: became a Mariner. He hasn't gotten along with everybody in
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Speaker 3: the clubhouse. Now, he's got some teammates that sing his praises.
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Speaker 3: He's got other teammates from the past that ever want
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Speaker 3: to see him again, And if they ever met in
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Speaker 3: a bar, he'd probably probably have a fistfight.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 3: He he's had that in his past, so when he
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Speaker 3: came here. We talked about it a lot that's stepping
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Speaker 3: out of the batter's box that, for whatever reason, some
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Speaker 3: fools think it so it was so cute.
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Speaker 4: I don't understand anybody who liked that.
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Speaker 3: You know, the not turning around when the ball was
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Speaker 3: hit out of the ballpark and which shows up your pitcher.
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Speaker 3: Randy didn't think of it that way, but that a
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Speaker 3: pitcher might think, Man, I'm getting shown up by my
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Speaker 3: own teammate and left field. He won't even give me
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Speaker 3: a courtesy jog back to the track to watch it
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Speaker 3: go over the wall. You know, it was that without doubt,
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Speaker 3: and there were a couple of them that weren't without
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Speaker 3: doubt that he did that too.
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Speaker 5: And so some of.
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Speaker 3: That was happening in the first six months that Randy
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Speaker 3: was a Mariner on the field.
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Speaker 5: And then that stuff went away.
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Speaker 3: Well, that stuff didn't go away because Randy had just like,
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna stop doing that. No, Randy was told and
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it was by Cow, I don't
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Speaker 3: know if it was by Dan. I don't know if
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Speaker 3: it was by Man. I don't know if it was
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Speaker 3: a collective. But that stuff started going away Randy was
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Speaker 3: told stop that stuff, even things like Randy when he
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Speaker 3: was lead off, was stealing bases with two outs in
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Speaker 3: col at the plate and they want cal or Julio
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Speaker 3: like we need to play for the two run Homer
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Speaker 3: and Randy was like he didn't understand why he couldn't
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Speaker 3: steal second things like so he he has been told,
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Speaker 3: and I don't know who's the heavy hand in all
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Speaker 3: of that to rain some of that stuff back in. Well,
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Speaker 3: all right, now that we've had this incident, and this
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Speaker 3: is why I brought this up earlier, Randy does something
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Speaker 3: like that. Again, does Kal say something because he doesn't
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Speaker 3: want you playing that way and he's the leader and
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Speaker 3: he's the sheriff. Or does he let it go because
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Speaker 3: he does not want to start anything because the relationship
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Speaker 3: isn't one hundred percent and he leaves it to somebody else,
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Speaker 3: and then that somebody else doesn't say anything, and now
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden.
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Speaker 5: You get grudges that grow.
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Speaker 3: So I'm not trying to make a mountain out of
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Speaker 3: a molehill. I'm just saying, is it dead and buried
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Speaker 3: or not? Because will I hope that they go back
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Speaker 3: to playing together? They way they did in the second
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Speaker 3: half of last year, because that was I liked that.
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Speaker 3: I liked that version of Randy better than I did
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Speaker 3: the Randy that originally came.
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Speaker 7: To the Mariners. I'm with you.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's possible. Like I said, I
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Speaker 6: would like to think that today's athletes are there's some similarities,
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Speaker 6: right which the similarity that I'm hoping for in this
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Speaker 6: situation is that it's not a It shouldn't just be hey, dude,
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Speaker 6: don't do that, and that's it, because that's not communication.
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Speaker 6: That's being barked. That's orders being barked at you. Hey,
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Speaker 6: run that out, Hey don't show up to pitcher, Hey
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Speaker 6: don't steal when I'm up to back.
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Speaker 7: Like.
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Speaker 6: That's not the way in which it goes overwhelm and
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Speaker 6: that's good. That's a that's a way in which any relationship,
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Speaker 6: whether it's teammates or workmates or whatever, that's the way
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Speaker 6: it's going to sour. If it's communication where it'say, hey, man,
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Speaker 6: you know that bomb that so and so hit in
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Speaker 6: the third deck, you gotta just turn around at least
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Speaker 6: turn around and like to take a couple of jog
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Speaker 6: steps like you just oh, just dropping your glove and
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Speaker 6: looking up all this thing sails over your head. Don't
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Speaker 6: watch an opponents it makes it look like, oh my god,
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Speaker 6: that's crushed. Everybody knows it's crushed. You don't got to
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Speaker 6: rub it in to some degree. And that's where there's
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Speaker 6: a huge difference about what's rubbing things in, what's showing
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Speaker 6: somebody up and culturally there's a difference.
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Speaker 5: And he didn't think anything of it.
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Speaker 6: No, that's where and so that's where I think there
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Speaker 6: was probably a conversation that wasn't hey stop doing that,
16:47
Speaker 6: because if you tell him stop doing it, and he
16:48
Speaker 6: doesn't underthink that what he's doing is wrong. Now he's
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Speaker 6: just getting told don't do that, and and he's like,
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Speaker 6: what are you talking about? So to me, this is
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Speaker 6: one where it's if you explain it to him, where
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Speaker 6: this is. This is where this is going, and this
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Speaker 6: is why I'm coming up with this. And so I
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Speaker 6: think that Cow will still do that early Like if
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Speaker 6: first week of the season, two weeks of the season,
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Speaker 6: if there's something that Randy does that col would like
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Speaker 6: to say something, I would be willing to bet that
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Speaker 6: Cow goes to Dan or to Manny or to Mitch
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Speaker 6: Garver or somebody else. It's a veteran that says, hey,
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Speaker 6: you want to you want to mention this to him?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was thinking about it too.
17:25
Speaker 6: Okay, you mentioned it to him for right now, until
17:28
Speaker 6: it is the waters further under the bridge, or until
17:31
Speaker 6: it's smoothed over to where it's not. You know, you
17:33
Speaker 6: don't come right out of a communication about a miscommunication
17:38
Speaker 6: and just immediately jump right back in and test them,
17:40
Speaker 6: test the waters. You kind of you weighed, You weighed
17:43
Speaker 6: slowly into that next next time.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say too.
17:46
Speaker 2: I would think he'd probably approach Dan about it, just
17:48
Speaker 2: for a little while, just to keep things cool, because
17:51
Speaker 2: I mean, we did see a little hostility between these
17:54
Speaker 2: two last year in the dugout.
17:56
Speaker 5: I thought I did.
17:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it definitely seemed odd, right, It didn't
17:59
Speaker 2: seem like two teammates.
18:02
Speaker 3: Who really there were some things, Yes, we noticed there
18:06
Speaker 3: were some well even beyond that, there's some things that
18:08
Speaker 3: I know that there were some problems with Randy the teammate,
18:12
Speaker 3: and like I said, they those things that I highlighted,
18:15
Speaker 3: he wasn't doing them in the second half. That means
18:17
Speaker 3: somebody convinced him that that's not what we're going to do.
18:22
Speaker 3: So I just like I want the relationship of Randy
18:29
Speaker 3: or Rose Arena with Cal and everybody else that we
18:33
Speaker 3: had in the second half of last season ain't even
18:35
Speaker 3: played it. Randy di even't he played well down the stretch,
18:39
Speaker 3: but he seemed to be They all seem to be
18:43
Speaker 3: on the same page.
18:44
Speaker 5: And so.
18:46
Speaker 3: If any of that stuff comes back up again, are
18:50
Speaker 3: we going to be able to tell Randy, hey, you're
18:54
Speaker 3: doing it again, or do you have to like let
18:58
Speaker 3: it go and then suddenly create an other issue going forward.
19:02
Speaker 5: That's the only I want it to be dead and buried.
19:04
Speaker 3: I'm not sure it is dead and buried, I guess,
19:07
Speaker 3: is what I'm trying to say.
19:08
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean we won't know until something pops up.
19:11
Speaker 6: I would like to think that the collective is more
19:14
Speaker 6: important than any individual, and that includes Cal, that includes Julio.
19:18
Speaker 6: And one thing that I do believe is that this
19:21
Speaker 6: I do think this clubhouse like likes each other. I
19:24
Speaker 6: think that that is there sure, and yet you're not that. Yeah,
19:28
Speaker 6: I don't, But it doesn't mean you're the same. It
19:30
Speaker 6: doesn't mean you think the same. It doesn't mean you
19:32
Speaker 6: feel the same about positives or negatives. I mean, how
19:35
Speaker 6: you handle a loss, how you feel after any individual
19:38
Speaker 6: loss is a wide spectrum of things. Nobody's happy about it,
19:41
Speaker 6: but some people are more upset about it because they
19:44
Speaker 6: contributed to the loss more than somebody else did. But
19:48
Speaker 6: if you get into something where you can recognize a
19:50
Speaker 6: habit or a trend is heading in the wrong direction
19:53
Speaker 6: for the collective, for the squad, then it's something is said.
19:56
Speaker 6: And if you're a veteran or you're a leader, which
19:58
Speaker 6: both these guys are our veterans, and so you can
20:02
Speaker 6: say it in a way like dude, you're better than that.
20:04
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.
20:04
Speaker 6: And that's not saying hey, you suck. It's saying, hey,
20:08
Speaker 6: you're better than that. Be better than that. And it
20:10
Speaker 6: is something I think that it ends up going over
20:12
Speaker 6: well in good clubhouses. It doesn't go over well in
20:15
Speaker 6: bad clubhouses. And I don't think this instant, all of
20:17
Speaker 6: a sudden, turns us into a bad clubhouse. It just means, yes,
20:20
Speaker 6: there's something there that you do have to kind of
20:23
Speaker 6: maybe tiptoe around until you've regained the trust to where
20:27
Speaker 6: it's not one of those you coming at me.
20:29
Speaker 3: We're also going to see Josh Naylor taking another step
20:32
Speaker 3: leadership wise. Oh, now that he's a full time Mariner,
20:34
Speaker 3: and that dude doesn't seem like he takes much crap
20:37
Speaker 3: coming one way or the other. No from the disciplinarian
20:40
Speaker 3: barking at him, or from the teammate not focused.
20:44
Speaker 7: No, no, so does his thing.
20:46
Speaker 2: I do think we have to give Randy a little
20:47
Speaker 2: credit too, though, because they have clearly talked to him
20:50
Speaker 2: in the past and he is.
20:52
Speaker 4: I mean, he has made giving him sure.
20:55
Speaker 5: I don't want it to go back.
20:56
Speaker 2: No, I'm yeah, I'm saying I'm saying moving forward because
20:58
Speaker 2: he clearly has shown that he can't do this and
21:00
Speaker 2: can make the changes and wants to be here. I
21:02
Speaker 2: think so, I think that he would be open to
21:05
Speaker 2: if something else goes wrong.
21:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't want that conversation to have been
21:09
Speaker 3: I know what you want me to say, so I'm
21:11
Speaker 3: going to say it so that I can get out
21:12
Speaker 3: of this meeting.
21:13
Speaker 5: I want it to be buried.
21:15
Speaker 3: And if it's buried, then we go back to Randy
21:18
Speaker 3: and Kyle the way they were teammates in the second
21:20
Speaker 3: half of last season. If not, I don't you know,
21:24
Speaker 3: now maybe you have like walk on pins and needles
21:27
Speaker 3: kind of thing for a little while, and that's what
21:30
Speaker 3: I'd like to avoid totally. But maybe that's well, maybe
21:33
Speaker 3: that's more of a conversation than it is even necessary
21:36
Speaker 3: at this stage. But it feels like they've kissed and
21:39
Speaker 3: made up. So we'll go into the season thinking that
21:43
Speaker 3: Cal and Randy are in a good place.
21:45
Speaker 7: All right.
21:45
Speaker 3: Coming up next on this radio program, JSN as a
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22:03
Speaker 3: What a busy morning we've had here on a Monday,
22:06
Speaker 3: made busier by the breaking news story in our six
22:09
Speaker 3: o'clock hour. Jackson Smith and Jigma and the Seahawks have
22:12
Speaker 3: agreed on a contract extension. Our WR one and maybe
22:17
Speaker 3: the leagues. WR one have come to terms on an
22:21
Speaker 3: extension that will make him the highest paid wide receiver
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Speaker 3: in the entire world.
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Speaker 5: Do you hear me? Bang the world?
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Speaker 7: Wow?
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Speaker 3: Wow?
22:31
Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Greg Bell was with us our Seahawks Insider about an
22:35
Speaker 3: hour and a half ago and told us how it
22:38
Speaker 3: all came together.
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Speaker 8: Well, we know it's coming. The timing of it is surprising.
22:42
Speaker 8: It's a little beyond the norm. It is a lot
22:44
Speaker 8: beyond the norm by a few months on how John
22:46
Speaker 8: Snider usually gets this done right before training camp. But
22:49
Speaker 8: this was such a FATA company that that's why it's
22:52
Speaker 8: getting done now. And now we know why they aren't
22:54
Speaker 8: spending all their salary cap space on free agents from
22:57
Speaker 8: other teams that they have no idea how good they
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Speaker 8: fit in Seattle. They have a pretty good idea how
23:02
Speaker 8: Jackson Smith and Jick is going to fit for a
23:04
Speaker 8: long time. Here his representatives, the Win Sports Group confirming
23:08
Speaker 8: this morning it's one hundred and sixty eight point six
23:11
Speaker 8: million up to it's over one hundred and twenty million guaranteed.
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Speaker 9: That's the big number of the players care about. And
23:18
Speaker 9: forty two point one to five million a year over
23:20
Speaker 9: four years. That's a record for the richest deal in
23:24
Speaker 9: the NFL for a wide receiver. And it's what we
23:28
Speaker 9: said it'd be at the top of the market around
23:30
Speaker 9: forty million a year. And Devin Wersen's next is the
23:33
Speaker 9: upshot to this at the same type of deal top
23:35
Speaker 9: of his market, which will be thirty million or so
23:38
Speaker 9: per season. Look at the Super Bowl champions too, had
23:41
Speaker 9: the NFL Offensive Player of the Year at one of
23:44
Speaker 9: the marquee most important positions in the sport. Yes it was.
23:48
Speaker 9: He's splashed hugely one year after they trade DK Metcalf.
23:52
Speaker 9: But he's just turned twenty four years old last month,
23:56
Speaker 9: which is hard to believe. But he came in the
23:58
Speaker 9: league when he was twenty. And this is a backside
24:00
Speaker 9: to how expensive Super Bowl championships are. Yes, it's expensive,
24:05
Speaker 9: and you lose some of your guys, and you lose
24:06
Speaker 9: the Super Bowl MVP and Kenneth Walker and they can't
24:09
Speaker 9: keep everybody, but the dudes you decide to keep are
24:13
Speaker 9: pretty damn good. And Jackson Smith and Jigs at the
24:16
Speaker 9: top of his position, Devin Witherspoon is at the top
24:19
Speaker 9: of his position. Sam Darnold is as sending you to
24:21
Speaker 9: the top of the sports most important position. And it's
24:24
Speaker 9: clear that those are the franchise cornerstones and they're going
24:27
Speaker 9: to get.
24:27
Speaker 7: Paid like it.
24:28
Speaker 3: Greg Bell I with this an hour and a half go.
24:29
Speaker 3: If you want to hear the entire conversation, you can
24:31
Speaker 3: do so on our podcast ninety three to three KJR
24:34
Speaker 3: dot com. I just I just love this for the Seahawks.
24:37
Speaker 3: I love this for the sea Hawks fan base. I
24:38
Speaker 3: obviously love it for JSN. I mean this organization is
24:43
Speaker 3: just firing on all cylinders right now, and.
24:46
Speaker 5: I love that.
24:47
Speaker 3: I mean, there are a lot of really difficult decisions
24:49
Speaker 3: to make as executives, really difficult ones, and some of
24:53
Speaker 3: them are emotional, and you've got to separate yourself from that,
24:56
Speaker 3: and you've got to make the best business decision even
24:59
Speaker 3: if it angers your fan base. There are some decisions
25:02
Speaker 3: that we really do have to you, like hood, does
25:04
Speaker 3: Bobby Wagner really have that extra juice left? Can we
25:07
Speaker 3: really commit to him further than this? Those are hard decisions,
25:11
Speaker 3: even Geno Smith. I think in hindsight, maybe you think
25:15
Speaker 3: that was an easy decision at the time. That was
25:17
Speaker 3: not an easy decision at the time to move on
25:19
Speaker 3: from Geno Smith. Maybe it was for them. They certainly
25:24
Speaker 3: didn't present that this is an easy one. And yet
25:27
Speaker 3: there are a lot of bad organizations that screw this
25:29
Speaker 3: up to Cincinnati Bengals had a contract squabble with Jamar Chase.
25:35
Speaker 3: They didn't want to do it. They had to fight him.
25:37
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson. They ruined an entire season trying to figure
25:41
Speaker 3: out whether or not Trey hendricks and what he's worth.
25:44
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys do this every damn year with every one
25:47
Speaker 3: of their players. Dak Prescott's the highest paid player in
25:50
Speaker 3: the National Football League, and they yet they went like
25:53
Speaker 3: two years trying to figure out whether or not they
25:55
Speaker 3: should pay him, and when they did decide to pay him,
25:57
Speaker 3: they overpaid him. But I just love that a red
26:01
Speaker 3: hot general manager and a red hot head coach can
26:04
Speaker 3: recognize this guy's outstanding. He's at the top of his profession.
26:09
Speaker 3: His contract's coming due. Let's not complicate this. Let's give
26:13
Speaker 3: him the best contract in the National Football League at
26:16
Speaker 3: his position, and in exchange for not blowing that mark
26:21
Speaker 3: out of the water, we'll just lock him up for
26:24
Speaker 3: four years so that he has the opportunity to become
26:26
Speaker 3: a free agent again at age twenty eight, in the
26:28
Speaker 3: middle of his prime. It's just good business and I'm
26:31
Speaker 3: just glad we've got the people in charge that.
26:34
Speaker 1: Are in charge.
26:34
Speaker 7: Yeah.
26:35
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I think the idea. It seems like
26:38
Speaker 6: it's common sense where I mean, every single guy that's
26:41
Speaker 6: at the top or near the top, at the top
26:44
Speaker 6: of their position, they always are taking Well, I want
26:46
Speaker 6: when it's I'm due for a new contract.
26:49
Speaker 7: I want the next brick in the road.
26:50
Speaker 6: I want the next I want to be the highest paid,
26:52
Speaker 6: and that lasts for until the next guy that's right
26:55
Speaker 6: up there towards the top doesn't. So why would you
26:58
Speaker 6: drag your feet if you think someone is there, if
27:00
Speaker 6: you think that you can't get you can't live without them,
27:03
Speaker 6: You're going to keep them.
27:04
Speaker 7: Why would you.
27:05
Speaker 6: Delay it and let somebody else take the next brick,
27:07
Speaker 6: because then you have to take the next one after that.
27:09
Speaker 6: And to me, it seems like that John Schneider and
27:12
Speaker 6: company are ahead on this whole thing. They've figured it
27:15
Speaker 6: out where they how they want to do this, what
27:17
Speaker 6: their protocol is going to be, and once they determine yep,
27:20
Speaker 6: you're a part of our future, then they go ahead
27:23
Speaker 6: and do it. I mean, I don't understand why there's
27:26
Speaker 6: a lot of other teams out there that drag their
27:27
Speaker 6: feet at the whole thing. Either either you think he's
27:30
Speaker 6: part of you, of your future, or you don't. And
27:33
Speaker 6: if the number is, in this case forty two and
27:35
Speaker 6: a half million dollars average for a year, then do it.
27:39
Speaker 6: Do it when he still has a year left on
27:40
Speaker 6: his deal. You've already extended the fifth year option for
27:43
Speaker 6: which would be next year. Just go ahead and tack
27:46
Speaker 6: that on because now you get to spread this whole
27:47
Speaker 6: thing out over six years. Now, all of a sudden,
27:49
Speaker 6: you're making it more affordable. The longer you wait, the
27:52
Speaker 6: less affordable it is. The less years you get to
27:54
Speaker 6: spread it out over, the higher the number goes. Like
27:57
Speaker 6: I brought up with you, and I brought it up
27:59
Speaker 6: with Greg the Huka Nakua think Pooka Nakua is, Yeah,
28:02
Speaker 6: he didn't have a super Bowl, but he's been right there.
28:06
Speaker 6: I mean he's been right there as the wr one
28:08
Speaker 6: of the NFL. Uh with Jackson Smith and Jigba. Why
28:11
Speaker 6: would you not be in a race to get your
28:13
Speaker 6: guy signed before he gets signed, because I don't think
28:16
Speaker 6: Booka Nakua his agent's going to hear anything about no,
28:20
Speaker 6: you're less because you haven't won a Super Bowl yet.
28:23
Speaker 6: They're going to say, look what my numbers are, and
28:26
Speaker 6: I want the next next brick in the road. I
28:28
Speaker 6: wouldn't be surprised if he ends up getting a salary
28:31
Speaker 6: that's as big, if not bigger than what Jackson Smith
28:33
Speaker 6: and Jigbas is. And I think you get there, You
28:35
Speaker 6: get to this place because you did it a little
28:37
Speaker 6: bit sooner.
28:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that is the thing I mean it's a
28:39
Speaker 2: really good point to the idea of yeah, why would
28:42
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you if you're the Rams, why are you waiting?
28:44
Speaker 2: Because you would have thought it's a race to sign
28:47
Speaker 2: Nikua to an extension or an in Jigba to an
28:49
Speaker 2: extension so that you're not having to pay even more
28:53
Speaker 2: than the other one because now, yeah, Nakua's agents are
28:55
Speaker 2: going to demand more. Yeah, so, I mean it was.
28:59
Speaker 2: But have we doubted that the Seahawks are smart?
29:01
Speaker 4: No, they're smart. They know what they're doing.
29:03
Speaker 5: Well, they're certainly on fire. I have doubted the midtime,
29:05
Speaker 5: but they're certainly on fire.
29:07
Speaker 7: Oh, they're on fire right now. There's no question about it.
29:10
Speaker 3: And for those that I mean, I do the same
29:11
Speaker 3: thing with Witherspoon, And for those that are worried, Oh no, no,
29:14
Speaker 3: you can't pay that much money that few of people. Nonsense.
29:19
Speaker 3: Have you seen some of these contracts that are being
29:21
Speaker 3: signed for players with question marks this offseason? No, you identify. Look,
29:27
Speaker 3: the Rams had to give up three draft picks to
29:29
Speaker 3: get McDuffie and then pay him. Yeah, the fact that
29:32
Speaker 3: you have Witherspoon and then you pay him because he
29:37
Speaker 3: was a great decision and he's turned out to be
29:39
Speaker 3: a great player, and he's going to continue to work
29:42
Speaker 3: hard for you. He's got that mentality. These are easy decisions,
29:47
Speaker 3: and you pay these guys and you that have achieved
29:50
Speaker 3: for you and have reached greatness and are still young.
29:53
Speaker 5: There.
29:53
Speaker 3: These are the easy decisions in this sport. And so
29:56
Speaker 3: I'm glad that and I should have known better than
29:59
Speaker 3: the aren't going to muff this up, because there are
30:02
Speaker 3: bad organizations that muff everything up.
30:05
Speaker 7: All right.
30:05
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30:28
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Speaker 3: hang out, tell stories, do each other's hair.
31:19
Speaker 5: On Tuesday, you know, get there.
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Speaker 6: A little early, yeah, you know, just gab, yeah, just
31:24
Speaker 6: to get get to the gossip going.
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Speaker 3: Right right right, stay the night, and then get to
31:28
Speaker 3: work on Wednesday.
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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know what their schedule of events.
31:31
Speaker 3: I don't know if they've given themselves two days in
31:33
Speaker 3: case they've got a you know, cliffhanger that they want
31:36
Speaker 3: to roll into Wednesday, or if they are just gonna
31:38
Speaker 3: meet figure this thing out quickly and we'll know by
31:42
Speaker 3: tomorrow exactly what's going on with the NBA expansion vote.
31:46
Speaker 5: But they're gonna meet tomorrow.
31:47
Speaker 3: You need twenty three out of thirty votes in order
31:51
Speaker 3: to rubber stamp to the next process in getting the
31:55
Speaker 3: Sonics back here to Seattle. It's Vegas and Seattle, that's
32:00
Speaker 3: all they're voting on, and whether or not they should
32:03
Speaker 3: proceed with the next steps and the expansion process, and
32:08
Speaker 3: I think it's going to go off without a hitch.
32:10
Speaker 3: I think Adam Silver has scheduled this thing because he
32:13
Speaker 3: already knows he's got the votes in hand.
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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I don't think.
32:17
Speaker 6: I think I likened it to the idea of most people, don't,
32:20
Speaker 6: you know, propose to a woman without knowing that she's
32:24
Speaker 6: going to say yes. This kind of is the beginning
32:26
Speaker 6: of that. Now it's it's a little bit different because
32:29
Speaker 6: you don't even know who the heck you're proposing to.
32:30
Speaker 6: You're just this is the proposal to cities, right, And
32:33
Speaker 6: I think that this is asking these guys, hey, you
32:36
Speaker 6: want to move forward and find out if there's anyone
32:39
Speaker 6: in Seattle or or Vegas that is willing to come
32:42
Speaker 6: up with the numbers that you guys would maybe agree to,
32:45
Speaker 6: right which the fact that the numbers after you know,
32:49
Speaker 6: the some of the big sales that have happened already recently,
32:53
Speaker 6: the fact that the number used to be four or
32:55
Speaker 6: five billion dollars now is seven to ten billion dollars.
32:59
Speaker 6: I think that's one where when Adam Silver has his
33:02
Speaker 6: conversations with the Border directors, with the other owners, and they,
33:06
Speaker 6: you know, whatever their conversations were like before and now
33:09
Speaker 6: they're like, hey, just see what you see what the
33:11
Speaker 6: price might be? Now, mm, there's nine billion dollars a team.
33:15
Speaker 7: Sound good? Think about divvying that up?
33:18
Speaker 6: Would you like it? All right, I'll meet, I'll meet,
33:21
Speaker 6: let's let's meet. I'll let you know what my vote's
33:23
Speaker 6: gonna be. I think that he already knows it's gonna go.
33:25
Speaker 6: And then it'll come down to whether or not we
33:28
Speaker 6: have somebody that is willing to jump up and pay
33:30
Speaker 6: that price tag.
33:31
Speaker 7: That's a hefty price tag.
33:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I am still optimistic that it will happen.
33:37
Speaker 2: I think eventually we will get a team. I am
33:39
Speaker 2: just not jumping too far in of saying like, oh
33:42
Speaker 2: my gosh, like Softy saying it's done, it's done. I'm like,
33:45
Speaker 2: I am so far away from it's done. Yes, there
33:48
Speaker 2: has never been a doubt in my mind that eventually
33:50
Speaker 2: we are getting a basketball team. I have never thought, oh,
33:52
Speaker 2: the NBA is never going to come back to Seattle,
33:53
Speaker 2: because that would be stupid of the NBA.
33:56
Speaker 4: And I don't think that they all got that wealthy
33:58
Speaker 4: by being really dumb.
33:59
Speaker 3: But no, they got that way by their dad's being
34:03
Speaker 3: really smart.
34:03
Speaker 2: That's right, and then they were smart enough to be
34:05
Speaker 2: born into those families, right.
34:07
Speaker 4: But I do think that.
34:10
Speaker 2: We still have, you know, steps to go through, and
34:14
Speaker 2: this first vote is just the first step. So I'll
34:18
Speaker 2: be holding my breath hoping that that goes well and
34:20
Speaker 2: then we will move on to the next step.
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Speaker 3: Well, we shall see, but it's going to be an
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Speaker 3: interesting twenty four to forty eight hours. I don't know
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Speaker 3: exactly how it's going to go down. I guess we
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Speaker 3: leave the door slightly a jar to be jolted with disappointment,
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Speaker 3: just so we're not completely.
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Speaker 5: Caught off guard, I suppose.
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Speaker 3: But I think that this is all systems go at
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Speaker 3: this stage. I don't think you announced that in eight
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Speaker 3: days we're going to have a vote if you don't
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Speaker 3: know that that vote's going to come out positively. And
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Speaker 3: then on top of it, even if it does fail,
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Speaker 3: I think it's failing for a reason. We get that
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Speaker 3: out of the way so that they can now start
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Speaker 3: scrambling the eggs around the league to get basketball to
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Speaker 3: both Seattle and to Vegas. All right, coming on next
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Speaker 3: Ryan Heay's gonna join us. We'll talk some Mariners baseball
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Speaker 3: with the former Mariner on Sports Radio ninety three point
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Speaker 3: three kJ RFM.