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Don't Sit on Any Cold Benches Part 2 (S1 E7, "Kiss and Tell") · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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Speaker 1: I am all in, kiss you, I am all in
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Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey everybody,
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Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast I Heart Radio.
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Speaker 1: We are going to recap Kiss and Tell episode seven,
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Speaker 1: season one. I am joined by the illustrious Amy Sugarman
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Speaker 1: uh and that's Riley and Danielle are with us on
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Speaker 1: board as well. So I didn't like my acting in
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Speaker 1: this episode. I gotta be honest with you. I didn't
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Speaker 1: like it. Really, I didn't. I didn't um what did
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Speaker 1: you think was wrong? I don't know. I think it
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Speaker 1: was just a little too angry, little over the top.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm still finding the character, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. And I just I just really, this
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Speaker 1: is why I don't like to watch myself, and this
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Speaker 1: was it was unpleasant for me less really you were.
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Speaker 1: You were particularly grumpy, But I didn't know. I didn't
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Speaker 1: think it was over the time, something with this guy
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Speaker 1: like jeez, you hate you obviously hate Thanksgiving. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's but maybe Docie brings out
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Speaker 1: that grouchiness in Luke. Maybe you played it right. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think so. I think there's another
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Speaker 1: way to go. I gotta beat my own credit here.
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Speaker 1: I just I'm calling the acting police on myself. I
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Speaker 1: did not like. Yeah, I didn't like what I did.
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Speaker 1: I didn't like what I did. I didn't like what
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Speaker 1: I did with Lauren either. At the table when I
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Speaker 1: can you mean the scene we've the scene we reenacted
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Speaker 1: in the last episode. I approached that scene. No, I
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Speaker 1: gotta call. I gotta throw a flag on that one.
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Speaker 1: I gotta give myself a red card, like get off
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Speaker 1: the pitch. You know, what did you think when Docie Taylor?
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Speaker 1: Docie called you young man? Thought that was kind of
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Speaker 1: interesting because he's definitely didn't he know Luke's father, maybe,
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Speaker 1: and he's definitely holding that a little bit of authority
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Speaker 1: in the scene because maybe the opening scene. But he
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Speaker 1: said it early in the scene, because that would have
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Speaker 1: beat me off, man, I'll tell you, Yeah, he says
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Speaker 1: something kind young man. All right, well then good. You know,
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Speaker 1: then I'm taking the red card back. That's exactly the
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Speaker 1: way I should have been thinking. I felt. I felt
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Speaker 1: like Docie makes you grouchy, and we know that heretofore?
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Speaker 1: Is that the right way to say it? Forevermore? You
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Speaker 1: know he's coming into a space being disrespectful. That's my
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Speaker 1: dad's place, you know. It's like, don't come in here
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Speaker 1: shooting your mouth off like this, and and you know,
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Speaker 1: point your finger and give me what for. That's right,
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Speaker 1: young man, he's coast. You make a very salient point there,
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Speaker 1: You make a very salient point. Yeah, alright, alright, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to give myself a little break on the acting
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Speaker 1: side there. Alright, good, it was justified, you know, like
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Speaker 1: we talked about this in the last episode with George
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Speaker 1: in that the same thing. It was jarring for you
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Speaker 1: and George when Dean responded to Laura Lae in that scene,
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Speaker 1: and that both when Doci called you young man, and
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Speaker 1: the scene where Dean pushes back whoa. That was aggressive
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Speaker 1: for a young teenager to say to lorelaie is it
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Speaker 1: my turn now? But it feels like those were very
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Speaker 1: specifically done in both cases for a reason, setting the
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Speaker 1: character up to fail. And I think I think that
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Speaker 1: kiss was the first one, like whoa, that was not
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you mean, because he was so aggressive,
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Speaker 1: he was so like she didn't know what was coming.
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Speaker 1: There was no build up. It was like which hand
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Speaker 1: has the soda boom? Kiss. I was caught up in
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Speaker 1: all of the flush of young love and all those
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Speaker 1: feelings and how you can't control him when you're that age,
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Speaker 1: and and here she is standing right before me, and
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Speaker 1: and she's so beautiful and sweet, and he just so
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Speaker 1: I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt
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Speaker 1: on that one, right, I mean, who could resist? Right?
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Speaker 1: He just he gave her a little kiss. It was
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Speaker 1: probably a little too long, but because it's where we
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Speaker 1: buy our food. Still the best line, did the kiss
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Speaker 1: happened before you were ready for it? Essentially because the
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Speaker 1: kiss surprised me. I was like, it's supposed to And
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Speaker 1: I think that's the beauty of the writing it. It
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Speaker 1: gives you something when you least expect it. But it
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Speaker 1: makes sense. Was ballsy enough to do that kiss? He's
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Speaker 1: ballsy enough to say to laure Line might turn now.
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Speaker 1: It's it's really yeah. It's like boy, and I started
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Speaker 1: thinking right away, this is not the right guy for her?
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Speaker 1: Is really yeah, that's like a city kid. That's a
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Speaker 1: cocky city kid from Chicago who yeah, right an ill
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Speaker 1: three kiss the hole in a quarter and gives her
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Speaker 1: a bracelet. You know, you know what I mean. It's like,
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Speaker 1: that's different. That's it was a quarter. I'm telling you
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Speaker 1: drilled a hole in a quarter anything. I feel like
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Speaker 1: Dean is totally the right guy for her for her
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Speaker 1: first boyfriend, Like who do you want Tristan? Tristan's a tool,
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Speaker 1: you granted, but but there was a reason that Laurel
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Speaker 1: I gave him the speech. So she wouldn't have done
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Speaker 1: that to a kid who she felt was, um, you know,
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Speaker 1: a little more suburban, shall I say, like more stars
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Speaker 1: Halloween had been around for her speech, wouldn't have happened.
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Speaker 1: That scene wouldn't have happened. That's why she had to
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Speaker 1: do it. It's like, and that's why she kept saying,
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Speaker 1: she's not getting on your motorcycle. I don't have a motorcycle.
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Speaker 1: She's not getting on your motorcycle. Like, do you know what?
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about city kid, which means
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Speaker 1: you are not going to sleep with my daughter. You're
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Speaker 1: not going to knock up my daughter, because that's that's
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Speaker 1: what that scene was about. I know what you're about.
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Speaker 1: You're sexually aggressive. You kissed my daughter in the marketplace.
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Speaker 1: You're you know, a tall drink of water. You get,
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Speaker 1: you get women, you women are you know these girls
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Speaker 1: are throwing themselves all over you. I've already been through this.
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Speaker 1: My daughter is not going I brought her to this
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Speaker 1: town to get away from that kind of garbage. You
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Speaker 1: know you're not doing Christopher had a motorcycle then, but
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Speaker 1: he definitely has a motorcycle later, So she's got a
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Speaker 1: whole sense of motorcycles. We got it. You know, remember
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Speaker 1: when Suki and Laura Lee or your counter you know, now,
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Speaker 1: I mean that was like and what Lauren? Laura Lae
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Speaker 1: has that line he looks like Christopher. So she's completely
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Speaker 1: in a dither that Rory is going down the same path.
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Speaker 1: And that was the look that she gave the two
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Speaker 1: of them in the prior episode at the very last
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Speaker 1: seemed horror like, that's my life flashing before my eyes.
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Speaker 1: I've done that. My daughter is doing it now now
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Speaker 1: we now we understand it. The fear like, oh god,
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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. Do you think that's
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Speaker 1: why Rory doesn't tell Laura Lie about the kiss for
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Speaker 1: so long? Because Laura la isn't reacting normally or or
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Speaker 1: favorably about this. Well, I don't know, I mean, she
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Speaker 1: she's she's she said she was kind of scared to
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Speaker 1: tell her mom right, want to tell her? Well, and
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Speaker 1: who wants to tell their mom, even even Rory and
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Speaker 1: Laura Lae, who are best friends. Who wants to tell
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Speaker 1: their mom's sixteen years old? That big a deal. She's sixteen,
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Speaker 1: she got kissed. That's that's that's a that's a big deal.
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Speaker 1: Was that a big deal back then? Well? Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: but she's the right age, she's not too young. I
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Speaker 1: just think, you know, I mean, she called her a
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Speaker 1: supermarket slut at the end of that really funny scene
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Speaker 1: when they agreed, when she calmed down and said, look,
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Speaker 1: he's coming over and this is how we're going to
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Speaker 1: do it, and sorry and all that right, right, right, well,
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Speaker 1: and then she slipped more back into the lower light.
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Speaker 1: We know that Rory knows. It's almost like she's off
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Speaker 1: kilter when she's getting weirded out. But I yeah, I
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Speaker 1: think she's afraid that it's a reputational thing. It's like,
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Speaker 1: I know, my mom is a little kind of a
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Speaker 1: wild card sometime. My mom has kind of reputation. My
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Speaker 1: mom can act a little crazy. I love my mom
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Speaker 1: so much. Rory is much more comfortable with her mom
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Speaker 1: flirting she was more comfortable with her flirting with the
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Speaker 1: divorced dad at school, and even maxim medina, dare I
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Speaker 1: speak his name? She's she's accepted her eccentricity, she's accepted
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Speaker 1: that she's she's not like the other moms. But she's
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Speaker 1: my mom and I love her and she's terrific. Um
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Speaker 1: very special relationship. We didn't even talk about this. How
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Speaker 1: about the kiss happens. So she's talking about the corn
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Speaker 1: starch and how it's a good thickening material, and then
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Speaker 1: he's got the soda or the puff, and the kiss happens.
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Speaker 1: She says thank you and runs, runs, runs, runs, almost
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Speaker 1: dies getting hit by the car that you knew that
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Speaker 1: was coming, runs straight to lane. Thank you. What a line,
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Speaker 1: What a great performance. Thank you? And she, you know,
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Speaker 1: just just such a vulnerable, sweet innocent girls. I mean,
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Speaker 1: but yeah for him, Look it's inappropriate for him. Here,
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Speaker 1: I got my my puritanical sites coming out. Um, it's
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Speaker 1: like this kid from out of town who works that job,
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Speaker 1: go ahead and kisses her in the marketplace at his job.
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Speaker 1: And I mean he didn't care. Who could have seen that?
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Speaker 1: He just went ahead planned it in all. Wow, that
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Speaker 1: didn't think you would have liked it, but puts Rory
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Speaker 1: in a tough spot in that town, you know, That's
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Speaker 1: that's all. I think it was harmless, but I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: think you would like it. Mm hmmm. I'm the dad, right, Luke,
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Speaker 1: Let's say, let's no, no, no, this is Luke talking. Now.
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Speaker 1: You don't do that. You don't do that to Mike,
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Speaker 1: my kid. What would you have said to Dean? I
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Speaker 1: don't know if it would have been a much of
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Speaker 1: a conversation, to be honest with you. WHOA yea. Even
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Speaker 1: though I like him and I like I like Jared,
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Speaker 1: and I like his acting very much. The character, let's
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Speaker 1: be let's be clear here. It's it's it's the character.
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Speaker 1: I think Laurela and I have If we were together
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Speaker 1: at that time, I think we would have had some
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Speaker 1: real arguments about allowing her to continue to see him.
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Speaker 1: He kissed her in the market, that's not what we
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Speaker 1: do here. That was inappropriate. And then he and then
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Speaker 1: you told me about out the movie night thing, and
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Speaker 1: he said, now it's my turn to speak. I would
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Speaker 1: have been like, wow, No, he's a combination of sweet
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Speaker 1: and and and I think so, yeah, I think so.
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Speaker 1: I do love that she ran to lanes and said,
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Speaker 1: I got kissed and I shoplifted. Did she steal the
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Speaker 1: corn stuff? No, she just didn't. She forgot it was
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Speaker 1: in her hand. Yeah, she ran with it. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean breaking down Dean is an interesting thing because he
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Speaker 1: is wholesome and sweet, and I don't think he's gonna
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Speaker 1: hurt her or break her heart. It's an act. Oh,
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Speaker 1: it's an act. I think. I don't know. I just
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Speaker 1: this brazen now, can I mean compared to Tristan? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but to be but I'm here comes this word again,
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Speaker 1: a little manipulative if he's not backing down from Laurela,
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Speaker 1: the Mama air who's letting him know, keep it in
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Speaker 1: your pants with my daughter, or you're gonna get thrown
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Speaker 1: in the lake by the entire town. Watch it, pal,
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Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. Don't mess with my girl.
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Speaker 1: And he has enough confidence at eighteen years old to say, uh,
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Speaker 1: can I speak now? I mean that's just like that's
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Speaker 1: trouble with a capital T. Whoa trouble that was that
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Speaker 1: sent out warning warning alarms were going off as soon
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Speaker 1: as he said that, I want oh trouble. This is
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Speaker 1: bad right because we know that's in there for a reason,
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Speaker 1: and so we're supposed to get that he is confident
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Speaker 1: with a little bit of too much, too much. But
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Speaker 1: I still, you know, I like Dean mm hmm. I
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Speaker 1: think you can't be you guys can't see. But Scott's
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Speaker 1: face is not saying the same thing that Riley and
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Speaker 1: I are saying. Do you think he's sweet? And Scott
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Speaker 1: not a suitable boy for Rory? I'm sorry, sorry, Let's
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Speaker 1: go backwards for a minute, because there is a scene
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Speaker 1: that we have not discussed that I thought was hands
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Speaker 1: down the most relatable scene of all time, and it
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Speaker 1: is when Laurel is in the refrigerator with everything everywhere,
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Speaker 1: and she is on the phone with the refrigerator people. Literally,
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Speaker 1: I've never felt larealize so much. When she's like making
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Speaker 1: the noise of the refrigerator. Obviously the person on the
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Speaker 1: phone can't help her. She's like, can you get me
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Speaker 1: someone who can help me? And can you be here
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Speaker 1: tomorrow at eight am because I have a job. And
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Speaker 1: then she hangs up and they're coming on Monday between
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Speaker 1: like literally three and eight. Like that is me with
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Speaker 1: the cable people, like when my direct TV goes down,
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Speaker 1: and I'm just beside myself. It was so relatable everyone
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Speaker 1: has experienced that. I asked myself, how many times has
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Speaker 1: that particular company, if their local, been talked to like that?
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Can you make the noise
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Speaker 1: of refrigerators making? How about you? Riley? I can't. I'm
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Speaker 1: not good at that. I've tried. I tried last night
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Speaker 1: and it was just terrible. I woke up home. Sounds
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Speaker 1: like that, sounds like a fly landing on your foot.
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Speaker 1: My favorite parts heard telling, asked the other guy. He
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Speaker 1: knows how it sounds. The whole thing was so brilliant,
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Speaker 1: like literally that was my favorite scene. Yeah, because she
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Speaker 1: can't really tell her mom what happened at Dozy's right
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Speaker 1: when she's in that right and then she's told, and
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Speaker 1: then I think Or's like, oh thank God, like this
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Speaker 1: is I'm dodging the bullet because my mom's like literally
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Speaker 1: losing her bleep over the broken refrigerator. Can't. Can't like Laurel.
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Speaker 1: After Laurel, I says, I hate my life, Like whereas
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Speaker 1: going to be like, oh, by the way, by the
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Speaker 1: kissed a dude, I just kissed a dude by the
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Speaker 1: rats transplant just macked on my face. You know, I
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Speaker 1: have a nice day, mom. And then, of course, how
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Speaker 1: about later when when Babette it traps Dean like he's
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Speaker 1: late for the movie, and then they looked out the
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Speaker 1: window and he's totally stuck with more So there's there again.
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Speaker 1: There's more warning signs coming from his behavior being trapped
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Speaker 1: by by Bett. He didn't look like he was having
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Speaker 1: a good time. And when Morey said stay cool, kid,
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Speaker 1: he was just like whatever, yeah, because he wasn't. He's
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Speaker 1: trapped by adults and he wants to get into the girl,
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Speaker 1: so what but be polite about it, be a nice girl.
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Speaker 1: Scott trying to remember being a teenager. He's in a
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Speaker 1: small town. He's supposed to be a smart city kid, right,
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Speaker 1: it's like make friends, go in there and make friends.
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Speaker 1: He's trying to make friends, right, He's in that town.
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Speaker 1: He's in the school system, and he's like, you know,
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Speaker 1: he's treating more and Babette the next beloved next door
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Speaker 1: neighbors like there just being a teenager. Stop it. You're
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Speaker 1: being so tough on Dean, and Dean's like a little sweetheart.
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Speaker 1: You're being so tough on him. He's still a teenager.
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Speaker 1: He's trapped by two from Stars Hollow. I run a
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Speaker 1: diner there, and people better treat my people. Well. Who
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Speaker 1: do you dislike more? Max Medina or Dean Max Medina, both?
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Speaker 1: I mean to me, they're both. It's like, it's like
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Speaker 1: Max Dean Medina, Max Medina, Dean Dean, Max Dean, Medina, Dean,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Medina Dean Madeina Dean. What's
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Speaker 1: that tell you? What does that tell you? There is
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Speaker 1: a possible mistake in this episode? Was this the episode
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Speaker 1: where Dean says he has two sisters and then we
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Speaker 1: only meet one, or like for the rest of forever
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Speaker 1: he only has one sister? Mm hmm, A little bit
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Speaker 1: of a yeah, it's it's minor, but we should point
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Speaker 1: it out. So what do you feel about this episode? Overall?
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Speaker 1: My overall sense of it was that now I fully
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Speaker 1: understand if I hadn't understood before, and I have and
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Speaker 1: had why people are so obsessed with this show. Because
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Speaker 1: it's laugh out loud funny. It is at like numerous times.
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Speaker 1: It's not just once, it's five, ten, fifteen, laugh out loud,
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Speaker 1: twenty laugh out loud lines. They just keep coming. And
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Speaker 1: that is I really think all the you know that
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Speaker 1: that's how life is. I mean, drama can be. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's it's so good at depicting what people go through
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Speaker 1: on a daily basis, real people going through on a
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Speaker 1: daily basis, and life is funny and it's tragic and
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Speaker 1: it's hard, but man, there's always the laughs and people
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Speaker 1: are all I mean, that's what we do in here.
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Speaker 1: When things get tough, you know, there's always the laughs
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Speaker 1: and the laughs are huge, you know, And that's what
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Speaker 1: this show is. It's real. Everything has a laugh, Everything
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Speaker 1: has a laugh. But they were from the refrigerator scene
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Speaker 1: to the kiss to Mrs Kim saying that's where I
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Speaker 1: buy my food, like, you can't kiss where I buy
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Speaker 1: my food? No, I mean that wasn't. That's why it's
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Speaker 1: so funny, because she's right. It's like, do you want
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Speaker 1: to go buy ahead of lettuce when you've seen two
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Speaker 1: people making out over it? No, you move on, it's
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Speaker 1: contaminated at that point. And even the rocking chair how
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Speaker 1: it was like bigger, oh yeah, grow And then I
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Speaker 1: obviously lauralize, completely stunned to find out that Rory's kissed
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Speaker 1: somebody and she leaves without the chair and Mrs Kim's
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Speaker 1: like you forgot chairing. I mean, every the whole show.
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Speaker 1: Would you consider it a comedy or a drama. It's
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Speaker 1: a drama, yeah, because there are times when you laugh
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Speaker 1: from a dramatic situation and there are other times in
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Speaker 1: the show when you can tell it's just it's a
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Speaker 1: funny bit, right, yeah, I mean it's both. They give
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Speaker 1: you both. There are there are moments you know that
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Speaker 1: some we haven't seen yet, but where we will cry.
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Speaker 1: But it's not like a show like Parenthood or This
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Speaker 1: is Us where you're just bawling and you have to
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Speaker 1: take advil after you watch. It's not there. They're not
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Speaker 1: laying it on thick. They're just moving on from it.
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Speaker 1: They're touching it. That's the way. I mean. That's the
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Speaker 1: lightness of the show. And you know, to get to
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Speaker 1: make it too heavy, it's just the wrong. That's not
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Speaker 1: the show. Other shows do that very well. This it
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Speaker 1: is not the show that does that. It's like the
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Speaker 1: heaviest situations are treated the lightest, The lightest situations are
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Speaker 1: treated the heaviest. It's it's it's really quite um oh
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Speaker 1: and really come on um and oh no, Laurel, I says,
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Speaker 1: and the Laurel I sus bout that. Uh after after
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Speaker 1: helping Dean escape, what was Bett talking to her about? Well?
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Speaker 1: She when Laurel I said to her, yeah, well I
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Speaker 1: gotta go now, I gotta I gotta get it inside
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Speaker 1: and shower. I guess what was what was? Oh, he's
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Speaker 1: a cutie's talking about. Yeah, it's kind of gross. And
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Speaker 1: Laurel not gonna get such. That's so good. It's so good.
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Speaker 1: I love that Bade. All right, everybody, it's time for
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Speaker 1: pop culture. The pretty juicers tell me, and we'll find
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Speaker 1: out that they have up their game because they have
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Speaker 1: listened to your comments, your brilliant comments about how we
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Speaker 1: should restructure pop culture section. So here we go, Riley
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Speaker 1: Danielle Amy, Welcome, Hello, Hello, Hello, back. Uh what do
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Speaker 1: you got here? I mean, we're flying by the seat
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Speaker 1: of our pants. I don't even know. They're just springing
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Speaker 1: this on me. We're gonna check it out. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: try it. Let's see what happens. Go ahead, Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 1: So we have something a little new for you. We've
21:29
Speaker 1: we've definitely heard the feedback and we want to make
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Speaker 1: it as best as we can for you. So this
21:33
Speaker 1: is Riley, and this is Danielle, and these are the
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Speaker 1: pop culture references and we're all in. Oh, so let's go.
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Speaker 1: So last week we reenact a scene and moral I said,
21:47
Speaker 1: I was watching General Hospital the other day, and you know,
21:49
Speaker 1: they have a new Lucky because the old Lucky went
21:51
Speaker 1: to go play something where he could actually have a
21:53
Speaker 1: real name. So there were actually three Luckies. The role
21:57
Speaker 1: was originated by Jonathan Jackson, by Jacob Young and Greg Vaughn.
22:02
Speaker 1: Jackson returned to the role in two thousand nine and
22:04
Speaker 1: then left again in two thousand eleven, with a few
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Speaker 1: later appearances in two thousand fifteen and in two thousand ten.
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Speaker 1: General Hospital was listed in the Guinness World Records as
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Speaker 1: the longest running American soap opera in production. It has
22:18
Speaker 1: been on for over fifty eight years. Also, Lucky is
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Speaker 1: the son of Luke and Laura. Lucky is kidnapped and
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Speaker 1: presumed dead in and returns brainwashed in two thousand and
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Speaker 1: In April, it was announced Jonathan Jackson may return for
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Speaker 1: another season. No, I know nothing. I know nothing about
22:40
Speaker 1: soap operas, but I am intrigued. I am well, it's
22:44
Speaker 1: Jack Wagner on General Hospital or was he? He was?
22:49
Speaker 1: He was? I think he was John Stamos was Blackie?
22:53
Speaker 1: Who was Jack Wagner? Well, who was Jack Wagner? Was?
22:56
Speaker 1: He honored Arnold Palmer because he's a hell of a golfer. No,
23:00
Speaker 1: but this was when Jack Wagner had his big song. Oh,
23:04
Speaker 1: Jack Wagner had a big song. So Jack Wagner is
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Speaker 1: the actor who has portrayed Frisco Jones on General Hospital,
23:11
Speaker 1: Frisco Jones at the tea teeing off. All right, Next up,
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Speaker 1: Lore lies as this to Luke, I'm not gonna lie
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Speaker 1: about how good you look dressed as one of those
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Speaker 1: guys from the Crucible. The Crystals film written by Arthur Miller,
23:27
Speaker 1: inspired by the Salem Witchcraft Trials. The original play was
23:30
Speaker 1: often banned in the fifties. It was written during McCarthy
23:33
Speaker 1: ism to draw parallels between McCarthy ism and the Salem
23:36
Speaker 1: Witchcraft Trials. Daniel A. Lewis and Winona Writer started this film.
23:40
Speaker 1: If you didn't know Arthur Miller of the the man
23:45
Speaker 1: who married Marilyn Monroe, And maybe I think maybe I
23:50
Speaker 1: think she met him through the actor's studio, because she
23:52
Speaker 1: entered the actor's student in New York because she was
23:54
Speaker 1: actually quite a talented actress and she wanted to study
23:56
Speaker 1: with Lee Strassburg, and she got to Hollywood. I think
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Speaker 1: she met Arthur Miller through the actor's studio and they
24:04
Speaker 1: they hit it off somehow. Um and I got married.
24:09
Speaker 1: So Rory says to Lore lies, she lays the line down.
24:11
Speaker 1: She says, no James Dean jokes, No father with a
24:14
Speaker 1: shotgun stairs, No Nancy Walker impressions. Nancy Walker was an
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Speaker 1: American actress and comedian and known as Ida Morgenstern and Rhoda.
24:23
Speaker 1: For twenty years, Nancy was Rosie the diner waitress and
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Speaker 1: the commercials for the Bounty paper towels Bounty. I think
24:28
Speaker 1: Bounty is the quicker pick her upper? Is that true?
24:32
Speaker 1: Am I? Is that the matching the right line with
24:35
Speaker 1: the right product. I hope, I hope. I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to get sued now by somebody who who owns them,
24:41
Speaker 1: like another lawsuit. It's all I need. So Rri says, no,
24:45
Speaker 1: James Dean jokes. So. James Dean is known for his
24:48
Speaker 1: role in Rebel Without a Cause, in he passed away
24:52
Speaker 1: in a car crash in but ironically a little fun
24:57
Speaker 1: fact he was ticketed by the police two hours before
25:00
Speaker 1: he actually crashed. Another fun fact, his two front teeth
25:04
Speaker 1: were fake. And this is my favorite reference because he
25:06
Speaker 1: was in Taylor Swift's song style you know that lyric Scott.
25:12
Speaker 1: I don't know Taylor Swift stuff at all? How dare you?
25:18
Speaker 1: I don't. He's got that James Dean day dream looking
25:24
Speaker 1: He's I you know, I think the Eagles wrote a
25:27
Speaker 1: song about James Dean. It's got James Dean alright. So yeah.
25:32
Speaker 1: He was one of those iconic actors, along with Marlon
25:34
Speaker 1: Brando and Montgomery Cliff, who came out of the Actors
25:37
Speaker 1: Studio in New York and they were all methody guys,
25:41
Speaker 1: very petulant, very inner, and very angry, trouble old souls.
25:46
Speaker 1: Laurel I says, you can't watch Billy Wonka without massive
25:49
Speaker 1: amounts of junk food. So many people know Johnny Depp
25:52
Speaker 1: as the way Willie want Gut in the film directed
25:54
Speaker 1: by Tim Burton, but the original star Gene Wilder in
25:57
Speaker 1: nine Willy Wonka doesn't actually appear until halfway through the film,
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Speaker 1: and the Chocolate river was actually made of real chocolate,
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Speaker 1: water and cream, so it spoiled fairly quickly and left
26:08
Speaker 1: a terrible swill. A third of the stuff in the
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Speaker 1: chocolate room was actually edible, and Roald Dahl, author of
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Speaker 1: the book, hated the final product, believing it was crummy.
26:18
Speaker 1: I have no knowledge of Willie Wonka. I don't even
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Speaker 1: think I've seen the movie, but I know that Gene
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Speaker 1: Wilder was brilliant and blazing. Saddles to Lorelai, says, I'm
26:27
Speaker 1: going to be so cool in there, You're going to
26:29
Speaker 1: mistake me for Shaft. So Shaft is a film from
26:32
Speaker 1: one starring Richard Rowntree. The movie was remade in ten
26:36
Speaker 1: featuring Samuel L. Jackson and the Shafts soundtrack album was
26:41
Speaker 1: recorded by Isaac Hayes and Shaft's mustache was a non
26:45
Speaker 1: negotiable in the film, Rory says to Lorelai, you're like
26:51
Speaker 1: a crazy Elsa Clinch also was actually the host of
26:54
Speaker 1: Candm Style with Elsa Clinch. She made an appearance on
26:57
Speaker 1: The Bold and Beautiful in n and she still live
27:00
Speaker 1: at eighty eight years old. So Babett says this about Dean, Oh,
27:04
Speaker 1: he's cute, and that Chuck Heston chin of his So
27:08
Speaker 1: check Heston born as John Charles Heston, but famously known
27:12
Speaker 1: as Charlton Heston has three different names. I guess um.
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Speaker 1: He's famous for Planet of the Apes and Ben her
27:20
Speaker 1: and he was the former president of the Screen Actors Guild.
27:23
Speaker 1: He wore a hairpiece in every movie since. In nine
27:25
Speaker 1: seventy two he played Moses and the Ten didn't. He
27:30
Speaker 1: was Moses in the Ten Commandments. That's what he's super
27:33
Speaker 1: famous for, right, I know him from Planet of the Apes.
27:38
Speaker 1: But okay, so I have a check Heston story. You
27:40
Speaker 1: want to hear it? Do we have time? So I'm
27:45
Speaker 1: actually flying up to Toronto from l A to shoot
27:49
Speaker 1: my scenes in the pilot of Gilmore Girls. And it
27:52
Speaker 1: was the first time I was ever in first class
27:54
Speaker 1: and Charlton Heston was sitting in the seat in front
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Speaker 1: of me, and he could have taken up two seats
27:59
Speaker 1: because he's not overweight, but he's just a large, large
28:04
Speaker 1: mammal like human being. I mean, he's just a very
28:07
Speaker 1: big guy. So when we landed, he got up and
28:09
Speaker 1: he has a little back issues, so he's a little
28:10
Speaker 1: hunched over. He's still huge, So we were all trying
28:13
Speaker 1: to get by him because he was taking so long,
28:16
Speaker 1: and he had a lot of things, but we couldn't
28:17
Speaker 1: because he's too big. And he led us out of
28:20
Speaker 1: the gangway. He led us into these little skinny hallways
28:24
Speaker 1: a Toronto International Airport. And some guy turned around and said,
28:28
Speaker 1: do you realize that we are being led out of
28:32
Speaker 1: bungage bunch on he parts the Red Sea. It's like
28:37
Speaker 1: we were extras in the in the in the in
28:40
Speaker 1: the modern version of Moses. Anyway, that's my little story.
28:43
Speaker 1: Thanks for enjoying it and laughing and paying attention. Thanks. Guy.
28:47
Speaker 1: Just because you've heard it before doesn't mean you can't fake. Say,
28:51
Speaker 1: there's an acting aspect that you gotta you gotta, you
28:53
Speaker 1: gotta pretend like it's the first time. It's the quality
28:57
Speaker 1: of the first time. That's the secret acting. Even though
28:59
Speaker 1: you've done rehearsed it a million times, you've heard of
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Speaker 1: the ball before. It's got to be like, Wow, what
29:03
Speaker 1: a great story takes? Would you do? Have a scene?
29:10
Speaker 1: And how many I didn't have like a blooper, like
29:16
Speaker 1: how many good takes? Yeah? Well, I mean relatively speaking, no,
29:22
Speaker 1: if something was out of a line or somebody caught
29:27
Speaker 1: a boom mic in the background at the very end,
29:29
Speaker 1: they couldn't use it take if it was a master shot,
29:31
Speaker 1: you know, so they had to just keep doing and
29:33
Speaker 1: doing and doing it. How much would you mess it up?
29:36
Speaker 1: How often? Give me a percentage where you just like
29:38
Speaker 1: fift your lines. Be honest. I didn't really biff my
29:43
Speaker 1: lines after season six, after the show was over, then
29:52
Speaker 1: I didn't pick anyone. Yeah, I nailed in those four movies.
29:57
Speaker 1: Good job, Scott. I I think the first couple of episodes,
30:02
Speaker 1: I think everybody was biffing their lines um, and then
30:05
Speaker 1: we just got better at it, We got used to
30:07
Speaker 1: it in the short term memories. So it was those
30:08
Speaker 1: poor guest actors that just were like sweating story. It's
30:12
Speaker 1: asking too much. It's asking a lot, man. I mean,
30:15
Speaker 1: they knew the lines. It wasn't a question of them
30:17
Speaker 1: not knowing the lines. It's the speed that was required
30:21
Speaker 1: that shocked them. And then they couldn't spit it out
30:23
Speaker 1: and they just couldn't talk that fast. Trust me. I
30:25
Speaker 1: tell Riley and Danielle say it like you're on Gilmore Girls,
30:28
Speaker 1: and it feels like it's in slow motion. Listen, no
30:31
Speaker 1: matter what you do. And this is a great save, Amy,
30:34
Speaker 1: really a great save on your part. But I will
30:36
Speaker 1: never forget that you ignored my check Eston story, did
30:38
Speaker 1: not respond to it. First of all, you told me
30:41
Speaker 1: that story before. It might have been my second time
30:45
Speaker 1: hearing I know what's going on you guys just like
30:48
Speaker 1: Scott loves Charlton. It's one of the greatest stories in
30:52
Speaker 1: my quiver. And you guys were like texting. You weren't
30:54
Speaker 1: even we're texting each other going this, we know what
31:05
Speaker 1: he was on. The blood is a big I guess
31:10
Speaker 1: it's one of those stories where you had to be there.
31:13
Speaker 1: All right, all right, Dean says, story. How much does
31:16
Speaker 1: it suck that they used Pink Moon in a Volkswagen
31:18
Speaker 1: kershial So. Pink Moon is the third and final album
31:22
Speaker 1: by the English musician Nick Drake. There's actually no known
31:25
Speaker 1: video footage of Drake as an adult. He was only
31:28
Speaker 1: ever captured in still photos and in the home videos.
31:31
Speaker 1: He actually died in nineteen seventy four at the age
31:33
Speaker 1: of twenty six, and the Volkswagen Bug was made famous
31:37
Speaker 1: by the film Herbie. I owned a Volkswagen Bug. It
31:40
Speaker 1: was the great car. Oh god, back in we had one,
31:45
Speaker 1: I think in the seventies. Great car, small but great car.
31:49
Speaker 1: Um you know, why does everybody ever a problem with
31:52
Speaker 1: musicians making money? I know when I was a kid, Uh,
31:55
Speaker 1: you know, somebody sold out to a corporation in their
32:00
Speaker 1: music was in a commercial. We you know, we would rebel,
32:02
Speaker 1: you know that. But it's just so naive. My god,
32:05
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone cares, now, I don't. I think
32:07
Speaker 1: it's I think it's considered idiotic if they don't. Swift
32:10
Speaker 1: is picking that card again out on the Capitol One ads,
32:13
Speaker 1: and I'm yeah, and it's not it's not really selling out.
32:16
Speaker 1: It's just like there's no money in music. You can't
32:18
Speaker 1: make money selling records and music. Ex that's how we
32:20
Speaker 1: learned about a song. Yeah, exactly, now all right the
32:24
Speaker 1: last reference, Dean says, So, at what point does the
32:27
Speaker 1: outsider get to suggest a movie for for a movie night?
32:30
Speaker 1: Rory says that depends what movie are you thinking of?
32:33
Speaker 1: Dean says, I don't know, Boogie Nights. Maybe. Rory goes,
32:36
Speaker 1: you'll never get a past Laura La because there's like nudity.
32:40
Speaker 1: Uh what there's more than nudity. Yeah, can you imagine
32:45
Speaker 1: Dean and Rory are watching Boogie Nights with Laura La? Cringe?
32:50
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I don't know if I'm ever going
32:54
Speaker 1: to go on another rant, but if I were to
32:56
Speaker 1: go on another rant, like a Scott Collen like rant,
33:00
Speaker 1: I might rant it up for Dean and the Boogie Nights.
33:03
Speaker 1: You are not team Dean right now, I will say
33:05
Speaker 1: that I'm not. I've been very complimentary of Jared and
33:10
Speaker 1: his skills as a young actor, but that character Mr
33:14
Speaker 1: Chicago sharpie guy kissing in the market and now watching
33:18
Speaker 1: Boogie Nights and telling Laurel I, now is it my
33:21
Speaker 1: joy to speak? I mean, what, what? What? I still
33:23
Speaker 1: think you're going to be fair to Jess because you're
33:26
Speaker 1: gonna be Jess biased because he's a relative. So we'll see.
33:30
Speaker 1: We'll just wait and see. Because they're Jess had some
33:34
Speaker 1: he he wasn't perfect. I'm going to tell you something
33:38
Speaker 1: that one of the most famous boxing referees tells his
33:42
Speaker 1: world championship contenders when he gets in the ring with him.
33:45
Speaker 1: He says, I want you to listen to all my commands.
33:47
Speaker 1: I'm firm, but I'm fair. So we need to dive
33:50
Speaker 1: into the market mark reference. So market Mark, for those
33:52
Speaker 1: that don't know, is Mark Wahlberg. Mark Wahlberg was in
33:56
Speaker 1: a hip hop group in nine that was formed called
33:59
Speaker 1: The Funky Bunch. He later went on to play Renaissance
34:02
Speaker 1: Man and his first starring role in Fear. Random fun
34:07
Speaker 1: fact about Mark Wahlberg. He has a third nipple and
34:10
Speaker 1: you can actually see that third nipple in Fear. But
34:13
Speaker 1: even crazier I've seen it. There is one other celebrity
34:16
Speaker 1: that tops in with four nipples. What you say, can
34:21
Speaker 1: you guess who it is? What's going on here? What
34:24
Speaker 1: celebrity has for nipples? I don't know the answer to this,
34:27
Speaker 1: but I've got my Google fingers. Really will never believe it?
34:31
Speaker 1: Are you ready give us a hit? Give us a hit?
34:33
Speaker 1: Suping guests. Um. He is also a referenced in a
34:38
Speaker 1: Taylor Slift song Taylor Lautner drum roll please Harry Styles
34:47
Speaker 1: has four nipples? Google it? Oh my god? Really? And
34:52
Speaker 1: the last one fact about Mark Wahlberg, Um, he started
34:55
Speaker 1: a burger chain called the Wall Burgers with his brothers. Yeah, wow,
35:01
Speaker 1: this is worth the Google guys, And we're listening. Where
35:04
Speaker 1: are the other two nipples? Kind of below and to
35:07
Speaker 1: the sun. And that's it for pop culture references. Vastly improved.
35:14
Speaker 1: But we need everyone to email us and let us
35:16
Speaker 1: know if we're nailing it now. Yeah, they will. They
35:21
Speaker 1: don't need to tell us. They don't need to be prompted.
35:26
Speaker 1: It's like a tsunami. Well you're at it, let us
35:30
Speaker 1: know everything else, God, but you know we need them.
35:35
Speaker 1: We do appreciate it. A few people still say the
35:37
Speaker 1: timeline is screwing. Nobody can get the timeline straight. And
35:41
Speaker 1: here's what I've come to terms with. It is still
35:43
Speaker 1: a TV show, and the timeline is not perfect. There
35:47
Speaker 1: are some flaws in the timeline. You're referring to what
35:51
Speaker 1: how nobody can quite know what age you met Rory
35:56
Speaker 1: and Loralae, because there's another reference where Rory acknowledges she's
35:59
Speaker 1: no in you all her life. So I'm going with
36:03
Speaker 1: my truth. My truth is my truth, you know. So
36:08
Speaker 1: it's gotten me in a lot of trouble, so maybe
36:10
Speaker 1: I shouldn't go with ye. I'm so ready with my
36:19
Speaker 1: favorite lines. I have so many from this episode. How
36:23
Speaker 1: we should I've said them all, but I still think
36:25
Speaker 1: I got kissed in shoplifted. And then of course Mrs
36:29
Speaker 1: Kim at the grocery store where we buy our food,
36:34
Speaker 1: and then the entire refrigerator conversation with the guy on
36:37
Speaker 1: the phone is just everything. Um, it's just like, all right,
36:42
Speaker 1: who's who's gonna start off? Riley, what's your favorite line
36:45
Speaker 1: of the episode. My favorite line is from Laura Lee
36:48
Speaker 1: when they're talking about the kiss and they see Dean
36:50
Speaker 1: in the grocery store and she said, that must have
36:53
Speaker 1: been some backbender, that kiss backbender. Oh my god. I
37:00
Speaker 1: think my favorite is I got kissed in I shoplifted
37:04
Speaker 1: because it made me laugh so much. But everything Lorelai
37:07
Speaker 1: said to the guy the refrigerator repairman on the phone,
37:10
Speaker 1: it is I could just listen to it all day.
37:14
Speaker 1: So this was tough for me because there was so
37:17
Speaker 1: many There's always so many great lines and it's hard
37:20
Speaker 1: to just pick one, but you gotta pick one. So
37:23
Speaker 1: for me, it was the reference to um Magnolia when
37:31
Speaker 1: Rory said, my mother when we when we were in
37:34
Speaker 1: the movie theater, my mother was screaming, I want my
37:36
Speaker 1: life back three. I mean, it's just it's it's it's
37:43
Speaker 1: Amy's way of, you know, slamming what she considers to
37:47
Speaker 1: be a pretentious film that it's like, what are you
37:51
Speaker 1: doing here? It's like frogs, it's raining frogs. Okay, like,
37:56
Speaker 1: what's happening. It's like, somebody, you're trying to entertain me
38:00
Speaker 1: with this. I never understood anything of that movie. But
38:03
Speaker 1: it's a it's a style of filmmaking. It's a type
38:06
Speaker 1: of director, writer, director, and you know, sometimes they get
38:09
Speaker 1: it really right and and sometimes you know, it's it's
38:13
Speaker 1: a fine line between being profound and pretentious, you know.
38:18
Speaker 1: And and I don't know, I like the film, but
38:20
Speaker 1: I just thought it was really funny. That's a reference.
38:26
Speaker 1: It's like Amy gets to slam the things that she
38:28
Speaker 1: finds obnoxious throughout the seven years, and I find those
38:32
Speaker 1: really satisfying and very funny. But that that's a funny
38:35
Speaker 1: line screaming I want my life back while you're watching.
38:39
Speaker 1: It's really funny. Uh So that's mine and I think
38:43
Speaker 1: it's the best one. So there you go. Before we
38:46
Speaker 1: started talking about love and war and snow because that's
38:48
Speaker 1: next week. So Genji Cohen is the writer of Kiss
38:52
Speaker 1: and Tell. I never realized, she wrote on Gilmore. She's
38:55
Speaker 1: the genius writer of Orange is the New Black and
38:59
Speaker 1: Weeds telling you they the talent coming out of the
39:02
Speaker 1: writer's room was second to none, you know, they had.
39:07
Speaker 1: That's probably why Kiss and Tell was so hilarious also
39:11
Speaker 1: because Weeds and Oranges The New Black are comedies, but
39:16
Speaker 1: their drama. Yeah, I mean, you've got a murderers row
39:20
Speaker 1: of writers on that staff. So it's it's a wow,
39:25
Speaker 1: just such enjoyable, so enjoyable. I'm not actually gonna watch
39:29
Speaker 1: it today again. I'm gonna watch Kiss and Tell again
39:32
Speaker 1: because I enjoyed it so much and now I got
39:34
Speaker 1: and I get to rewatch them because I've seen them
39:36
Speaker 1: once and now I can, you know, because I'm getting
39:39
Speaker 1: so much like a fan, you know what I mean,
39:41
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get obsessed. So Kiss and Tell is
39:44
Speaker 1: the first episode that Jenji Cohen wrote, and it totally
39:47
Speaker 1: makes sense to me because it's filled with humor and
39:50
Speaker 1: snark and everything that is her tone. And I think
39:53
Speaker 1: that's why, you know, other than when the Paladinos right it,
39:56
Speaker 1: It's like, I love the way she writes. Yeah, if
39:59
Speaker 1: you get some right years on here, we got we
40:01
Speaker 1: have to talk to these writers, definitely, weinitely talk to
40:03
Speaker 1: these people. But we have a big surprise coming soon,
40:07
Speaker 1: so I don't want to spoil it yet. Be ready, Yeah,
40:14
Speaker 1: like in the next couple of weeks. Good job, I
40:18
Speaker 1: hope you learned to like Dean a little bit better
40:20
Speaker 1: than you do. Right now, it's it's not going well
40:22
Speaker 1: for him in Luke's mind. Have a bad feeling. Somebody
40:29
Speaker 1: warned us on the Instagram that next week you may
40:34
Speaker 1: have a fit because I think there's something coming with Max.
40:38
Speaker 1: I'm a little nervous. Dean cooked his own ghosts. He
40:41
Speaker 1: kissed her in public, he went toe to toe with Laurel,
40:46
Speaker 1: and then he mentioned boogie Nights to Rory. He's a manipulator,
40:51
Speaker 1: he's corrupting her. I'm not having it. I'm sorry. I'm
40:54
Speaker 1: afraid we may need a therapist next week. What I
40:57
Speaker 1: think is it's not about Dean, it's about mat You
41:00
Speaker 1: better get those don't get me a therapist, You get
41:02
Speaker 1: those two bodyguards. I'm coming out. That's what it's all about.
41:09
Speaker 1: I got Jersey coming out of You don't do that.
41:11
Speaker 1: You don't do that stuff. You better text text me
41:14
Speaker 1: after you watch uh the next episode, so I know
41:18
Speaker 1: I can prepare myself to your state of mind. The
41:22
Speaker 1: therapy is going to be in the exercise. I get therapist.
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