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Jaguars Happy Hour | Jaguars GM Search Down to Finalists, New Staff Prepares for Combine · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Ashell is a great city, you know, with the live
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  Speaker 1: music in the whole nine yards. But Charleston is just
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  Speaker 1: a great Southern city with great food and lots of attractions.
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  Speaker 1: Got a main drag, you know, people like to shop,
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  Speaker 1: but the food is the biggest attraction there, Southern food.
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  Speaker 1: The cuisine there is exceptional, Ye, seafood, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Everything you pick it, you can get it, no doubt. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But now we're back, Yeah, back to reality. GM interviews
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  Speaker 2: going on. Yeah, five finalists to yesterday, Two more today,
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  Speaker 2: one on the docket tomorrow. I could see a decision
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  Speaker 2: and maybe an offer tomorrow afternoon. Yeah, by the end of.
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  Speaker 1: The week, Yeah, I mean sometime by the weekend, I
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  Speaker 1: think a decision will be made. I mean, look, the
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  Speaker 1: combine is starting what next week, So I think the
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  Speaker 1: whole purpose that Chad talked about was getting this done
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  Speaker 1: before the combine, and you really need to have it
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  Speaker 1: done by the combine because you really need to start
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  Speaker 1: kind of establishing where the directives are, you know, where
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  Speaker 1: the concentration is going to be. Kind of get the
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff, the general manager or the talent evaluators all
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  Speaker 1: unlock step together and that's you know, it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be kind of on the run a little bit at
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  Speaker 1: the combine, but at least it's on the run at
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  Speaker 1: the combine. So that's why you don't want to wait
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  Speaker 1: any further than this week.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be that GM's first for a in front of
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  Speaker 2: the national media. Whatever they show up at the combine
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  Speaker 2: as well, there'll be some media time I think on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of yeah, yeah, And.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't think whoever they select, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't have any idea of who's in the lead or
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  Speaker 1: anything else of that nature, but none of these guys
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  Speaker 1: that are kind of in the final list have been
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  Speaker 1: general managers before, correct, But I think there's been opportunities
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys to kind of be
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  Speaker 1: in front of the microphone and in front of the
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  Speaker 1: camera before. I mean, just like Ethan Wah, the interim
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  Speaker 1: general manager, who is a final candidate by the way,
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  Speaker 1: has been in front of the camera and the microphone
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  Speaker 1: before and has done an excellent job. I think there's opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: So I expect.
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  Speaker 2: Whoever they hire to have a little bit of.
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  Speaker 1: Experience with doing some of that because it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be hit the ground running and getting to work. But
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  Speaker 1: also you've got to handle a lot of media responsibilities
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  Speaker 1: right out of the gate, your introductory press conference, which
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  Speaker 1: is going to be in Jacksonville, and then your introductory
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  Speaker 1: press conference at the Combine, which is going to be
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  Speaker 1: even in more depth. And then you've got to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: literally start interviewing people to put your staff together in
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  Speaker 1: the personnel department, and change will be coming there to
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  Speaker 1: some degree whatever, you know, whatever direction they go, you.
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  Speaker 2: Gotta be ready for. As we said, three weeks away
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  Speaker 2: from the start of the league year free agency, how
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  Speaker 2: much do you really want to be involved in that
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  Speaker 2: front first wave of free agency. There's more money in
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  Speaker 2: the salary cap. We'll get to that coming up. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: all that's a lot of table right now. I mean
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  Speaker 2: it's a lot of work. I mean it's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of work, and so you can't waste any time. And look,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that they're wasting time right now, because
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they are. They're taking their time and
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  Speaker 2: they're making a really good decision and taking a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things into account and a lot of opinions into account,
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  Speaker 2: which is good, and that's a positive thing. I'd rather
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  Speaker 2: take an extra couple of weeks and have a good
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  Speaker 2: ten to fifteen year decision than you know, rush it
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  Speaker 2: and ain't get it wrong.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny that you say that you know ten ten
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  Speaker 1: to fifteen year decision because you know, in the way
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  Speaker 1: and I stopped by John Dever's office, who's the head
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  Speaker 1: PR guy for the Jaguars, and you know, just checking
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  Speaker 1: in seeing how he's doing, you know, just shooting the breeze.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, you know, how's you had any time off?
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  Speaker 1: And he's, you know, of course, with all the things
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  Speaker 1: that have been happening with the organization, there's been little
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  Speaker 1: to no time off for anybody that in that department.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, you know, you hopefully, you know, get
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  Speaker 1: a little time off here in the future. And I said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, well, hopefully you make the right decision and
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  Speaker 1: then you're not going to have to do this for
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  Speaker 1: fifteen more years, right, you know, and really not even
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  Speaker 1: And the reason you're doing it fifteen years from now
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  Speaker 1: is because you've groomed somebody to take oh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: kind of if you look at the situation in Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: with Ozzie Newsom and Eric DaCosta, I mean, that's like
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  Speaker 1: the model franchise and that that's who you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: be like from a personnel standpoint, if you can emulate
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  Speaker 1: them in some way, shape or form and accomplish what
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  Speaker 1: they've been able to accomplish with first of all, the
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  Speaker 1: job that Ozzie Knewsom did and I think the job
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  Speaker 1: that Eric DaCosta continues to do in the seamless transition
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  Speaker 1: with that look, that's that's where you want to be.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's been the biggest downfall of this
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  Speaker 1: organization from the get go has been what is the
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  Speaker 1: lifeblood of every franchise, which is talent acquisition, which has
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  Speaker 1: been a problem since the Coughlin era ended, and it's
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  Speaker 1: been a struggle and unfortunately that's I think what has
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  Speaker 1: been keeping this organization. It's been holding it back.
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  Speaker 2: So big hire coming up the court. The Jaguars, of course,
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  Speaker 2: have hired a new head coach. The season opponents are
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  Speaker 2: JP Shadwick with Jeff Loogoman on ten TONXXL, Jaguars dot
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  Speaker 2: Com and Jaguars YouTube. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. Let's
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  Speaker 2: take a look at the five finalists for general manager
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  Speaker 2: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Ian Cunningham, Bears Assistant GM, has
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  Speaker 2: already been in the building this week. James Gladstone, the
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  Speaker 2: Rams director of scouting Strategy. John Eric Sullivan has been
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  Speaker 2: with the Packers since he was an intern back in
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  Speaker 2: like two thousand and three. He's now the VP of
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  Speaker 2: player Personnel there. Ethan Wall the Jaguars interim general manager,
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  Speaker 2: long time in San Francisco before that, of course, Josh
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  Speaker 2: Williams with the forty nine Ers currently as director of
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  Speaker 2: scouting and football Operations you talked about. None of these
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  Speaker 2: guys have been gms before. Ethan Wall has been in
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  Speaker 2: the league for probably the longest of any of these candidates,
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  Speaker 2: a long time in San Francisco working his way in
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  Speaker 2: the player of personnel side of things. And then Johnny
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  Speaker 2: Erick Sullivan is at the VP level with the Packers.
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  Speaker 2: The other three don't have a whole lot of lengthy
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  Speaker 2: experience in the league, and you've got to see if
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  Speaker 2: they're ready to take that big next step to the
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  Speaker 2: big chair, well.
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  Speaker 1: A big step in other words, that you've got to
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  Speaker 1: be able to work with other people. You've got an EVP,
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  Speaker 1: a head coach, you know, that's going to form kind
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  Speaker 1: of the organizational threesome, you know, as far as on
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  Speaker 1: the football side of things, and you've got to be
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  Speaker 1: able to work well with others. But the most important
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  Speaker 1: characteristic or trade is that you need to be able
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  Speaker 1: to pick the horses. And not to offend any NFL
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  Speaker 1: player by saying they're horses, because I was one and
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  Speaker 1: kind of went through the same process. But you've got
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  Speaker 1: to be able to pick the talent that's going to
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  Speaker 1: sustain the franchise as a perennial winner.
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  Speaker 2: And that's not easy to do.
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  Speaker 1: And I almost wish that the league had because you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of programs that they're doing to
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  Speaker 1: help people along, so to speak, right Like they're having
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  Speaker 1: different meetings with owners with minority candidates to get their
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  Speaker 1: names and their faces and conversations out there. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: wish the league would have Essentially, it's like a personnel.
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  Speaker 2: Office.
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  Speaker 1: And so here's here's what I'm proposing. Okay, I wonder
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  Speaker 1: if Rogers listening and see. See here's let me know
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  Speaker 1: what you think. There's a lot of personnel guys around
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  Speaker 1: the league, A lot of them that work in uh
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  Speaker 1: every organization, some of them that are out of football
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  Speaker 1: right now that were previously employed. I think it would
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  Speaker 1: be great to like have a office to where let's say,
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  Speaker 1: me and you work for different teams when we're young
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  Speaker 1: and we want to be a GM one day.
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  Speaker 2: I am young, okay. You, on the other hand, I
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  Speaker 2: am not.
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  Speaker 1: But if we were able, and you know, we had
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  Speaker 1: a list of players that we could turn in, you know,
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  Speaker 1: on a year to year basis, and then it goes
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  Speaker 1: into a computer, and then the league could look at
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  Speaker 1: where their player rankings were at so that you could
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  Speaker 1: find the best personnel value evaluators on a year to
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  Speaker 1: year basis. So in other words, Jay, you don't think
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  Speaker 1: they do that, No, they don't. But what would the
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  Speaker 1: print out look like? What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 2: I think well, first of all, you would turn in
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  Speaker 2: a sheet of your player rankings.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, it's you. It's you, not your teams, nobody else's,
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  Speaker 1: it's yours.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: I would turn one in, okay, and then We're going
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  Speaker 1: to keep doing this year after year, and then the
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  Speaker 1: league's going to be able to have an idea of
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  Speaker 1: what what our picks would have been in the draft
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  Speaker 1: over the last five, six, seven, eight years, however many
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  Speaker 1: years that we've participated in this process, and then you
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  Speaker 1: could actually run analytics on the picks that we're turning
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  Speaker 1: in to find out who the best talent evaluators actually are.
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  Speaker 2: You don't think they do that already? No, But how
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  Speaker 2: did this matter for this process? Because these are I'm
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  Speaker 2: just saying, is that wouldn't it be great? JP?
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  Speaker 1: If In Cunningham and James Gladstone and John Eric Sullivan
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  Speaker 1: and Ethan.
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  Speaker 2: Waugh and Josh Williams all turned in their own picks,
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  Speaker 2: don't I say they didn't make picks, None of them.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not asking them to make real picks. JP.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, give me their list of player rankings in
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  Speaker 1: the draft. Do you know how hard is this to
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  Speaker 1: understand the teams they were on? Okay, look at mel
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  Speaker 1: Kuiper's list. Okay, I'm so embarrassed for you.
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  Speaker 2: Good. Okay, does mel Kuiper have a list? I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: he There's plenty of lists.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, how many lists do you look at prior to
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  Speaker 1: the draft, the rankings? Does Bucky Brooks have a drunk?
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  Speaker 1: He's got rock drafts and lists and ranking in the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. Why not have all these guys and every
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  Speaker 1: other young personnel executive around the league turn in his
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  Speaker 1: own list that's unique to him, not his organizations in
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  Speaker 1: each draft. Correct, then you can actually run the analytics
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  Speaker 1: on the picks after the fact, three and four years
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  Speaker 1: down see if they're worth a darm. I mean, wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: that be the most accurate way to really understand that
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  Speaker 1: can these guys evaluate talent? Is that not the essentially
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  Speaker 1: job requirement number one for a GM, right?
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  Speaker 2: Sure? Yes, I think it would be cool. And I
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  Speaker 2: think I mean, sometimes you put a list together and
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  Speaker 2: you don't know where it's going. It's going to this office? Well,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like, who's going to be reading my list?
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  Speaker 1: That's I think that would be one of the things
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  Speaker 1: I think that with a lot of people might be
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  Speaker 1: hesitant about it because are they are they sitting there?
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  Speaker 1: Are they taking my list and giving it to another team?
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  Speaker 2: Brothers always what?
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  Speaker 1: But But That's what I'm saying is that if the
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  Speaker 1: league did it, and they did it as part of
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  Speaker 1: a trying to create better evaluations of talent evaluators. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: if they're trying to help teams, okay, get better, why
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  Speaker 1: not have that? And that it would be you know,
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  Speaker 1: potentially the documents would go into a vault and they
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  Speaker 1: would be hidden and never be shared.
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  Speaker 2: How dog them what's a successful lists three and four
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  Speaker 2: and five years down the road?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just like we can go back, like remember
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, we went back and evaluated
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  Speaker 1: some of the past Jaguar draft picks. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: can assign no can do that right then somebody else
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  Speaker 1: might have a different grade, maybe for Alay. But I
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  Speaker 1: think what's what's the what's success for a player pro
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  Speaker 1: football get into a second contract?
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  Speaker 2: Is it oh I played X number of games? Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh I threw seventeen interceptions a season? I think it is.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a great question. I don't know, it's
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  Speaker 2: a great question.
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  Speaker 1: But if PFF has a rank for a player, okay,
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  Speaker 1: then you're you could use the rankings for from PFF
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  Speaker 1: or some other analytics service to be able to assign
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  Speaker 1: a value to those players, and then you could correspond
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  Speaker 1: that with where they were raped where they were drafted
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  Speaker 1: at number one, but then also where they would have
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  Speaker 1: been drafted at And is JP Shadrick's list a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years is.
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  Speaker 2: Another issue I have with this, And we'll move along.
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  Speaker 2: We'll take a break and get Kaya here and see
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  Speaker 2: Kay Stevens will join us here in a minute. Why
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  Speaker 2: am I getting dinged fifteen years after I made a
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  Speaker 2: list fifteen years ago that I didn't know what the
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  Speaker 2: heck I was doing as a young executive. Well, I
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  Speaker 2: mean you may not get dinged. I mean if your
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  Speaker 2: list was terrible, right, but you're like twenty two right
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  Speaker 2: out of college. What the hell do you know there?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm not saying like twenty teen, how would they
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  Speaker 1: hold that against? But let's say all these years, but
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  Speaker 1: you could look at let's say, for example, we're evaluating
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  Speaker 1: you as one of these guys on the list. We
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  Speaker 1: could go back and look at your list from the
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  Speaker 1: last four or five six years. We don't have to
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  Speaker 1: go back fifteen years. Okay, Well, you know we can
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  Speaker 1: go back however long we want to. Law how let
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  Speaker 1: we can go to the league and say, hey, look,
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  Speaker 1: JP Shattuck, we're considering him for the GM role. Can
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  Speaker 1: you give us an evaluation of the draft picks that
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  Speaker 1: he's turned in.
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  Speaker 2: Over the last ten years?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe say, you know what, let's just do it over
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  Speaker 1: the last seven years, maybe the last four years, however
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  Speaker 1: you want to do that, and then you could actually
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  Speaker 1: look at the list that you turned in like little
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  Speaker 1: physically printed out, you know, for teams that are looking
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  Speaker 1: at you as a potential plating yourself with this third
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  Speaker 1: round guard who didn't make it to a second contract.
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  Speaker 2: What is that?
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, that's that's the only way you can
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  Speaker 1: truly evaluate whether or not somebody can pick a really
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  Speaker 1: good player, can evaluate talent properly. And why not have
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  Speaker 1: some kind of central office in the league that is
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  Speaker 1: helping encourage the best candidates get put in place, and
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't require a lot of work.
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  Speaker 2: Was like a lot of work, I think. I think
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  Speaker 2: JP with AI today, Oh boy, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're taking away, put it in and let the
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  Speaker 1: computer handle it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like the idea. Let's come back in a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Kay Stevens will join us in studio. We'll see what
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  Speaker 2: she thinks about this. If you're crazy or not plenty ahead,
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  Speaker 2: we'll hear from a Trevor Lawrence as well. He's on
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: the Ky Adams Up to Adams Show Earlier this week,
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  Speaker 2: we'll also hear from Yudensky offensive coordinators sat down with
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  Speaker 2: John Ozier plenty ahead on ten ten Excel, Jaguars dot
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  Speaker 2: Com and Jaguars YouTube. This is Jaguars Happy Hour presented
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  Speaker 2: by dream Finders Homes. Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the play calling is super important. I
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  Speaker 4: think being a head coach, there's a lot more to
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  Speaker 4: it than that. Though obviously he's that's one side of
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  Speaker 4: the ball and he's responsible for that as far as
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  Speaker 4: our plan, and then when the game starts, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he's going to be the one calling it, So of
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  Speaker 4: course that's important. But I think just from the leadership perspective,
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  Speaker 4: having that energy day in, day out is something I
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  Speaker 4: think our team needs. You know, we've been through a lot.
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  Speaker 4: The last two seasons have been not what we expected
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  Speaker 4: after what we did, you know, two years ago, and
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  Speaker 4: I think this team just needs needs some juice and
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  Speaker 4: I know he's.
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  Speaker 2: Going to bring that.
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  Speaker 4: As players, I'm ready to lead and bring that as well,
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  Speaker 4: because we all have to buy in, right, we have
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  Speaker 4: to buy into what he's doing, what he's the culture
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  Speaker 4: he's trying to set, or we.
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  Speaker 2: Don't have a shot. Trevor Lawrence on The Up and
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  Speaker 2: Adams Show with Kay Adams on FanDuel TV, also available
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube earlier this week, and a long conversation with
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  Speaker 2: Kay earlier from the Jags Quarterback Jaguars Football presented by
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  Speaker 2: Fresh from Florida, It's Always in Season. JP Shadwick with
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  Speaker 2: the Miller Electric Center. Ten to XL, Jaguars dot Com,
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube Kai Nannie Stevens, Jaguars reporter in studio with us,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for hanging out today at work.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, off s an edition, happy.
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  Speaker 2: To be here, glad to have you. Always were you
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  Speaker 2: listening to this?
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  Speaker 5: I cut the back end of it.
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  Speaker 2: She gets it. Yeah, apparently I'm an idiot. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know in the world.
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  Speaker 5: We all embarrassed for you.
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  Speaker 2: JP clearly like, well, I don't know what I'm missing,
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  Speaker 2: But what do you think about all.
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  Speaker 5: This per our discussion off air?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's just about kind of owning your section
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  Speaker 3: of what your board looks like, is what I'm because
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: obviously it's a collaborative effort, right, So if you're going
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: in there, who the team picked might not have been
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: who you wanted to pick there. So maybe it's a
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: little bit of way of owner owning what you would
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: have done good or bad at the same position.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Correct, Because don't you do that anyway though?
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I mean how because like you can go back and
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: be like I would have picked.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: What did you think of?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: You know, right, you look hindsight. Hindsight is twenty twenty,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: you know, so, I mean you can all you know. Unfortunately, JP,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people get in the cya
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: mode when when things have for cover.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Your rear end mode.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, and so for example, let's go back to past
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Jaguars drafts. Okay, let's just for example, let's go back
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: to the Leonard Fournette draft and okay, Dave called well
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: selected Leonard Fournette.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, was that Tom Well? I'm just saying, is that? Okay?
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: That's the point.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: If you know, and Dave Caldwell turned in his own list,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: then we would know. And if John Show, who worked
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: in the you know, the scouting department, had Patrick Mahomes
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: to be taken at that spot without any shadow of
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: a doubt without having revisionist history in hindsight, being twenty
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: twenty and making statements after the fact, you could actually
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: go back and say, let me see what they turned
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: in on the Patrick Mahomes draft. You could actually find
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: out whether you or Kyle or I turned in an
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: actual sheet that said that Patrick Mahomes should have been
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: drafted by the Jaguars.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: But now you can't go back and do that. You know,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Now I can tell you, hey, man, I would I
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: would have drafted Patrick Mahomes all day long, when you know,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: maybe I was the guy that was sitting there pound
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: on the desk four net Fournette Fournette. We need a
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: running back for our quarterback Blake Bortles, right, you know.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: But that's my point is that if you have something
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: that's turned in on a on an annual basis that's
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: kind of locked away and not shared with other people
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: around the league, I would I think it would help.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Well, JP doesn't trust a lot of things. Conspiracy theory, Yeah,
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't trust. Would you is it would this go
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: to the league in theory theory?
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: In some lock box? Sure?
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Why not?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: I think it's interesting.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's there's a lot of uh, mock
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: drafts that I think fans participate on on a yearly basis,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: and they they go to different websites and they do
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: mock drafts and they ithere, you know, and and it
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: would be cool if, you know, if you could have
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: literally the personnel guys in the league all have their
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: own rank games, you know, from one to however far
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: deep you want to want to go. I mean, what
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: does the draft have? What's how many rounds of seven rounds?
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: And so you have ballpark of how many picks because
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: you get the compensatory picks and everything else. So it's
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: you know, let's say two hundred and give me your
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: top two hundred, you know, or give me one hundred
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: and fifty, whatever that may be. You know, just give
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: me a list of the top one hundred and fifty
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: guys and how you would rank them and instead of
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: going down to two fifty or whatever. But I mean,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I think that that would be it would be valuable
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: in information, and it would help me understand whether or
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: not JP or Kai are worth a pooh to pick
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a player really, you know, because there may be some
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: guys that are out there that have great opinions, but
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: nobody ever knows that they have great opinions because their
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: information or their opinions never known. And so if you
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: had a place that you could gather that and then
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: literally run the computer thing to kind of spin out
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: who the best talent evaluators.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: All some analytics.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's locked in. He's locked in.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I just think it. I think it would provide value.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And I can tell you this. If I'm an owner
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: and I'm looking to hire a general manager, I want
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: to know who can pick the best players, because you
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: know what best players can You can overcome a lot
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: of things, plain and simple, right, I mean, but all right,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: we'll move forward here, Kai.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, we got another we got thirty more myths.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: We just heard from Trevor Lawrence. We did Adams sing
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: no sling. That's positive, great, right, Yeah, talking about the
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: relationship with Liam Cohen and the play caller, and obviously
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: that's a huge to It's another offense for Trevor's his
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: third one in the.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: NFL, absolutely, and this is probably the most important time
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: for him. Right. We say that every year, I feel like,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: but it's getting to that point now where he's got
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: the contract. We know he's going to be here and
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: he needs to take it up a level or two,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: especially with the amount of time he's been in the league.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: I know it'll be a new system, but it's going
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: to be geared to his strengths. I don't think he'll
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: have a system so far that's been catered to him
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: the way that this one's going to be catered to him.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: So he'll have every opportunity to do that.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: And I think what you're saying by cater to him means,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, that this offense will not be so quarterback.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Centric, correct, because he needs help.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs help.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: And you know when when the day one started for
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: him on Urban Meyer, which was a complete and utter catastrophe,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: that was tough because they were kind of expecting him
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to be magic and it was a very unhealthy environment.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: So that was kind of a wasted year. And then
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and Press Taylor's offense very quarterback centric. It
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: was a past first offense, clearly without doubt, and I
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: don't think Trevor was ready for that, and there's a
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks that aren't ready for Look, Patrick Mahomes
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: needed help in the Super Bowl, didn't he did I
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: mean did he not? I mean ran the ball if
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: they could run the ball in the Super Bowl, which
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: they did not, I mean Patrick Mahomes couldn't shoulder the load.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: And so you need to be able to develop that
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: part of the offense. And I think Kai is dead
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: on the money when she's saying that develop an offense
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: around him, which means based on what he can and
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: can't do yet, and then the more he can do,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: then the more you open the offense up to him.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Defensively, Yes, new mindset, new era of defensive Jaguars football
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: feels like sure.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I think we need to go as far away from
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: last season with the defense as we can do, not
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: in terms of players necessarily, but just in.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Terms of the way that they did things.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: And I think what I heard, at least from the
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: presser and what we've heard from some of the coaches
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: so far, is that they're going to have X dictations
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: for them and they're not saying, hey, we're going to
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: do it this way no matter what. I felt like
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: a lot of the a lot of last year we
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: were like Nielsen was rotating people and doing the things
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: that he wanted to do, whether or not it was working.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: And I understand you want to stick to your skill
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: what you think is your strong suit. That's fine, but
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: if it's not working, you need to adapt a little bit.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: And I also think there's something to be said for
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: adapting to the opponent you're playing. Especially on defense, you
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: need to adapt your style or whatever to what the
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: offense is going to be doing. So I like the
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: way that.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: It's being discussed.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I also like the way that we've heard about accountability
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: and kind of expectations of people. Not necessarily, I mean,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: you want to play to people's skill set, but also
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: if you're playing that position, I need you to do
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: certain things and if you can't do that, then somebody
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: else is going to have to do it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: And I think there's.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I think that needs to be put in people's minds
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: that I have to be able to do these things
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: to keep my job and not just I'll be doing
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: this no matter what because this is my job.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Doing my job.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I'm all for that, you know, because this new era,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I think is uh. The old era was one of
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: not knowing what the hell you were supposed to do.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to say that whose false is
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: that coaching? I put that on coaching. I mean, that's
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: that's your directive, right, I mean, that's the teaching part
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: of it. I mean, and it's not all coaching. I'm
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: just kind of being a little bit top players. It's
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: all both. But it's but you know, here's the here's
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the thing, JP. You gave up the most explosives in
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: the National Football League. And the reason that you gave
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: up the most explosive in the National Football League for
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: for the most part, was you were having mental breakdowns.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: You had mes mental errors and you.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Didn't have that the year before.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's kind of the same player as the year before.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: So what changed, well, I mean the coaching staff change
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, you know. I mean,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and the one thing that I love about Campanilli is
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: where he comes from. You watched Green Bay and we
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: obviously got a chance to see Green Bay here in
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville this year play the Jaguars. The calling card of
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Green Bay's defense is that they left no open areas
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: with their defense. Well coached, fundamentally sound, physical, played fast.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Give me that all day long off coming off a
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: year after what we just saw arguably the worst defense
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: in the National Football League, arguably the worst defense in
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: franchise history. I'll take what Green Bay was doing all day.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Was it green Bay personnel better than the Jaguars defensive
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: personnel last year? Just as it on paper?
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great debate, it's a great conversation.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I would say green Bay was a little bit better
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: for the most part, but it wasn't that much better.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, not to the point where the Jaguars are
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: at the bottom in green Bay. Were were they ranked
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: that last year? It's out of curiosity. We're talking about
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: rankings and pff and let me.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Turn in my scouting report. Yeah, rank them for me.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: We'll review it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Three years awesome, I'll look it up real quickly. But
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna real curious to see where that is.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: But I mean, that was the calling card of green Bay.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: They have a really good defensive tackle. They have one
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: good defensive end, a good linebacker. But I mean, it's
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: not like they're overloaded with talent.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Green Bay on defense last year third in the NFL
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: in total d eleventh against the run, second against the pass,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: first on third down. There you go eighteen percent on
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: third down. That's pretty credit.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: And look, I think they're a little a little better
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: in some areas talent wise, But the biggest thing is
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: with Green Bay.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: That's postseason. I'm sorry hanging on green Bay fifth, seventh, thirteenth,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: same top.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Of the yes, but what they had their performance in
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: the back end, I think, and I think their talent
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: in the back end definitely better than this teams.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, clearly. My frustration was Obviously we talked about
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: the exposive plays. That's been an issue forever.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: It was as if it was never addressed though, it
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: would always be the problem, and then they would just continue,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: whether it's the same players or however you want to do,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: whatever you wanted to change. There should have been some change,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: and we didn't see any change until like two or
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: three weeks left in the season.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: In other words, if Kai makes a mistake, do we
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: make Kyle a defensive captain next week? Yeah, she's made
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: three weeks of mental layers, so do we make her
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: a captain the next week?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of stuff that was happening exactly.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: It's just I hate to say that.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: You can't say you're.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Holding people accountable and you're doing stuff like that. So
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: it was and I'm sure fans felt this way as well.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: It's just frustrating watchings say feel like you can identify
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: a problem. It's so glaring that you can identify a
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: problem and that they're not choosing to do anything different.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: We get the rankings correct on the Green Bay defense
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: last year the postseason, I was like, you knows that
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: up to you mess it up? Well I did. I'm like,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: got a roll today. Fifth overall defense, seventh, rushing defense, thirteenth,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: passing defense, twelfth in the league on third down thirty
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: eight percent and nineteen point nine points per game. I mean,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: that's that's good defense, really good.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: We would love that.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, take that any day. To take some of that,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: it'd be good.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: And you know, and get bet you got to get
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: better talent, but then you have to be able to
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: play a more solid, fundamentally sound system. Final thought with
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: the KAI and GM interviews, one more tomorrow and then
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: we should have a decision by the weekend, right.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, they have to write the combines next week,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: so you got to get somebody, get send somebody up
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: to Indie next week. So I think they've they've definitely
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: reached the home stretch at this point. I'm busy in
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: the building as we know, so I'm excited to see
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: I Obviously we're not privy to exactly what that is.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: I'm sure as Jeff was mentioning, it's a lot of
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: when you meet them and kind of what they're talking about.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Aaron Valdment has been in the past, because we don't know, right,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: So like you can look at how where they worked,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: what the drafts look like, but you need to know
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: what their roles were in that.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, I'm excited to see what it is.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun seeing Bisselli walking in and the photos
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: out on X of him walking in with these candidate
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: it's pretty pretty cool.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: Yes, he can't wear flip flops anymore.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Though, thank goodness, my gosh, to win for all of us,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: it certainly is I can't you wear flip flops? I mean,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: it's his building, you can do what he wants.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll see, I mean it's still like what the
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: first couple of weeks. We'll see if it evolves.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I think I think he went enough games. You can
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: wear whatever the heck you.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Want, right, I mean flip flops, so you know, have
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: a have its moments when they're appropriate.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: At the beach.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Yeezeh JP looks And here's the thing, do you guys
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: have a favorite?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Do you guys have in the pas?
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: No?
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know them, so I don't know.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: But if you knew who they were wanting to pick.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: It was almost as if I had some statistics then
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I would be able to make a better judgment about
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: who right.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: That's great, Kai, have a great weekend, k can you
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: stick around for another segment?
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: Handled?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I think to take the rest of the show off
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: YouTube can handle it. How about that? Thanks? Kay, hy
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Stevens joining us in the studio. Back in the moment,
• 30:16
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• 30:37
  Speaker 6: You're trying to see if their vision for building the team,
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: Matthew's division at the head coach, and even Tony Bucelli's
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: vision as the executive vice president. You want to make
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: sure that everyone is in lockstep and the team building process.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: They're in lockstep when it comes to the type of
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: players that you want on the roster. And then you
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: want to explain you want them to explain their procedures
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: in terms of how you get to selecting the right guys.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: How do you put it all together?
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: What do we do if we have disagreements.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: In terms of this player and that player.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: You're trying to see if the guy that you're bringing
• 31:12
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• 31:14
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• 32:24
  Speaker 2: So they'll be I think you're going there, right, Yeah,
• 32:27
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  Speaker 2: there starting Monday. We'll be on the air with the
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: coaching GM I think they're at the press conferences on Tuesday,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: we'll carry those. They'll make the Radio Row rounds that day.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: We'll have live show Wednesday, another one Thursday with Happy
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Hour guests on those and might be a little surprised
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: for the Thursday Happy Hour show from Radio Row. We'll
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: get to that coming up maybe next week. Maybe could
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: be an interesting reunion sort we'll see, we'll get to that.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: So that's that's all coming up. That's next week, and
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: they'll be you know, there's a lot of work to
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: be done for this coaching staff too, and personnel staff,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: so they aren't gonna waste much time. They're gonna be,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: you know, when they're not talking to prospects and things,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: they'll I think probably have meetings and things on their
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: own where they're trying to get this offense and defense
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: together and ready for when the players come in.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Well that and then also as a as a coaching staff,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: you know, you're you're also trying to watch some of
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: the prospects because I think you know what Bucky talked about,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: and he was spot on about getting everybody in lockstep together.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: And in order to be in.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Lockstep together, everybody kind of has to share what they
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: believe is an opinion on certain players. And the coaching
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: staff is part of that opinion because the coaching staff
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: has certain players that they want for their system, and
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: then the GM's job is there to support that with
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: the best players.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: In the right players. But the coaches, you want to
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: have their input on it.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: And so the coaches are going to be watching prospects
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: as well as talking to prospects, and then they're also
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: going to be working on their scheme, their off season schedule,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: the free agency that's coming up, which is literally right
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: around the corner, we'll be here before you know it,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: which is going to be the first way of improving
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: your roster. So there's a lot to do, a lot
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to do, especially when you don't have a GM in place.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: But once that GM is in place, then there's a
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: lot of rowing that needs to be done together to
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: get to where you want to be.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Talking about free agency, there was an article yesterday the
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: NFL salary cap for actions could be twenty to twenty
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: five million dollars higher.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: That's I mean, it's like every year it takes this
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: significant jump and you're like, when's it just gonna slow
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: down a little bit.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's slow down, and it hasn't, you know.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: And then I was reading an article today that the
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers are considering selling some of the ownership
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: ten percent of the team selling it. The valuation they're
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: talking about with the forty nine ers is like nine billion.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, so you're talking nine hundred million dollars in
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: raising capital by selling ten percent straight cash.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: And so you sit there and you go, my god,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I mean nine hundred million, which would have bought you
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: three franchises when the Jaguars came into existence. And I
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: mean three really good franchises. It's just crazy where the
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: numbers have gone. But that's where they are.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's when you've got the most popular sport,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: when you have the most watched television programming, when you
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: have is it like forty eight of the top fifties
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: shows every year of football?
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, I mean it's it's not only the top programs,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: it's the top sport, the top programs period. You know,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I mean who watches TV anymore? I mean a lot
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: of people don't. Not the TV is the way we
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: used to watch it. But here's the one thing that
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: people keep tuning in on football, the NFL. College football,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: by the way, depends the way you are, depends where
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: you are. What's that guy's name that went to Miami Beck,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Carson Beach.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's from maandar in high school. Actually, what are
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: you doing, Carson Beck?
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: What do you mean? Whatever do you mean? Okay, he
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: was at Georgia, right, he was Okay? And and this
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: is this is a young man that I would love
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: to be able to reach for me just called his house.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, and I mean something. He needs
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: some help, okay, because when you go to college with
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: the nil okay, and there's nothing wrong with I'm all
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: for making for college players making money, not against that whatsoever.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: But you don't go to college to make money and
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: then to buy a Lamborghini and then a Mercedes Benz
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: and then have it stolen out of your yard in Florida,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: South Florida. Who says he bought him, Well, if it
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: was they were his, then I mean he's probably Here's
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: the other thing, JP. If whether he bought them or
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: whether he's leasing them or whether he's renting them, that's
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: not that's not spending your money wisely. But it's his money. Yeah,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: And you know what, it won't be his money for long.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: You keep buying Lamborghinis or leasing Lamborghini and buying Mercedes
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: or leasing Mercedes, You're not gonna have much money for long, buddy,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Keep on spending it, okay, because one day, if all
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: of a sudden you're not playing in the National Football League, okay,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: your eligibility is gonna be up, which means you're not
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: gonna be making any nil money.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Then what are you gonna do? You'd like to be
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: able to convert that four or five year old Lamborghini
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: back to the original mount that you spend for it. Yeah,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I don't lose much though, as soon as you buy it.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Soon as you buy it and you drive it off
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: the lot, the value at boom down. It's just it's
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: just like, what are you doing? Man to Somebody will
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: give him some proper advice on setting yourself up for
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: the long term instead of the near term. I mean,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: do you really need a Lamborghini and a Mercedes Benz
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: to drive? How far is to drive on campus? I
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: don't know where he lives. I have no idea. You
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: can ride a bike cool Gables, I don't know.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I mean by yourself a shwim bro okay, and if
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: you got a girl down there, okay, get a tandem shwim.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Well, she got her car stolen too, apparently which one
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: was hers? Some suv is another car a different car.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: It is probably all three got stolen and they found
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: hers apparently, according to the story. I don't know. That's
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: today's financial literacy. I read that conversation. What are you doing, man,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: what are you doing? Let's come back. I don't know
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: what the heck we're gonna talk about when we come back.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I have no idea that could be anything. Well, look,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to help a guy out JP. Okay.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one thing that I always, I
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: always was, would get.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: So frustrated with sometimes.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: You know, you have certain guys that you know, you
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: try to help them out to save some money.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'll give you a story and we get back.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: You give you any story you want. Okay, We're on
• 40:00
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• 40:11
  Speaker 7: I don't know that I think about it in the
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: sense of age being ready.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Because people typically.
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: Will ask about the experiences and what makes you ready,
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: And I think that I've been unbelievably fortunate should be
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: around really good people and have different unique experiences, whether
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: it's coaching on defense or spending time with Kevin o'collam
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: Minnesota or my time in Carolina. So I think it's
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: more so the experiences that I've had that have brought
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: me to this point, and I really can't control those
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: things in terms of the number of my age. So
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: It's not something that I concern myself a ton with,
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: but I would say I definitely try to make take
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: every measure possible to ensure that I'm doing everything I
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: can to be prepared for whatever responsibility is thrown my way.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: That is Grant Yudinski, the Jaguars offensive coordinator, on the
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: ozone podcast It's Back. It's something the Official Jaguars Podcast
• 41:07
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• 41:10
  Speaker 2: You'll hear the conversation with John Oser and the new
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Jaguars OC Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour j Ap
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Shadwick with Jeff Logman. We're at the Hondai Studios, Miller
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• 41:24
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• 41:28
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• 41:33
  Speaker 2: course in the NFL. A lot of important dates coming
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: up around the National Football League. The scouting combine of course,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: starting next week going through March third, and Indy. March
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: fourth is the franchise or transition player deadline. If you're
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: going to do that, got to get it done by
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: March fourth. March ten through twelve the free agency negotiation period,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: the air quote legal tampering period. It's a two day
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: actually a three day window up until the start of
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: the league year. It's March twelfth at four o'clock Eastern time.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: That's when free agency officially begins. March thirty through April
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: second is the NFL annual meeting known as the Owners'
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Meetings down in Palm Beach. This year, April seventh is
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the offseason program for teams with new
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: head coaches, including the Jaguars, two weeks ahead of all
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: the rest of the teams in the NFL Draft April
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: twenty four through twenty six in Green Bay, Wisconsin. So
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: the calendar never stops in the NFL.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be wild a draft in Green Bay. Yeah,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty cool. We will send some representatives from
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Dot. Yeah, Brian's usually Brian Goes.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Goes, especially if it's a top five.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Most likely the pick is in is there, So there's
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of people staying in Milwaukee. You
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: don't think Appleton has enough for room, I mean no, no,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: you get Airbnb's house across this there's gonna be a
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: lot of airbnbs in Green Bay, right, Yeah, there's gonna
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: be a lot of people that are going to say,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: you know what, We're just gonna go ahead and pack
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: up and move.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: No, that would be fun like to one day be
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: able to tailgate in those houses right across the street
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: from Lambeau. Yeah, that'd be frodge doors open. Yeah, I've
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: seen photos of it. It's awesome. Yeah.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: But put the TVs outside and just listen to the
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: roar of the stadium. Come on, the only problem is
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: is that TV has a delay, so you're gonna hear
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: the roar before they actually see what happened through Oh
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: something's going on. Yeah, which is not exactly the optimum
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: set up. But uh but yeah, but I you know, look,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: it's not far away and rotating this draft everywhere. By
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: the way, Pittsburgh next year. Yeah, and it'll be interesting
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: to see how many prospects actually attend.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: The draft this year. Yeah. It's a good one. Man.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: It's not New York. It's not you know, this uh
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: attractive big city Vegas, you know, yeah, I mean, it's uh,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I think shed Her Sanders has already said that he's
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: not gonna be in attendance, which, look, I get it.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of times when when the draft
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: rolls around, you want to be able to celebrate with,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: you know, the people that helped you get there, friends, family, coaches, teammates,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: and when you go to the draft. It's not like
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you can just bring all them along. I mean you can,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: but that's not very talking about being you know, being
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: wise with your money like we.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Just talked about.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: But but I mean, I think it's going to be
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: interesting to see how how it turns out. But I mean,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: look after watching it for the last couple of years,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: when it's been at different venues and the great job
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: that every venue has been able to do with the Draft,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to Green Bays version. Hopefully we'll get
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: it here sometimes new stadium and all that hotel and
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: if there's development nearby that would be the key. Well,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I mean it's uh, where was it at last year.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember where they've been the last couple
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: of years. I mean, Cleveland, Cleveland, I don't know.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I mean it's I mean, some of these places are
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: getting a couple hundred thousand people. One one was Cleveland
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: twenty two was Vegas, twenty three was Kansas City, twenty
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: four was Detroit, Detroit. This year's Green Bay, Pittsburgh in
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: twenty six, Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be Nashville. Twenty nineteen
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: was really the one. I mean that on the Broadway,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: the whole thing. Yeah, they killed it.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I mean there's certain cities that are just made for
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: hosting some of the events like that, and Nashville. I mean, look,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: like I said before, I'm a huge fan of Nashville.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: You know, every year when we go on the road
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: and we visit all of the teams around the National
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Football League that are on the schedule, Nashville is one
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: of the I'm very glad that that's in our division
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: so we can go there every year.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: It's a great town. It's great Town's got a lot
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: of great things to see and to listen to, and
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: it's you know, it's centrally located, which is you know,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: that's a big deal.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: If there wasn't that darn football game on Sunday, it'd
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: be one heck of a weekend. Yeah yeah, you know,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I mean you know what I mean, Yeah, that's u
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: and it's easy for fans to go. I mean there's
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: a you can get it. I think there's a nine
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: stop on one of the airlines to Nashville here from
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Javille to Nashville. Yeah, it's easy. Even it's a healthy drive,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: but it's drivable. I mean it's a poke, but I
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: mean it's it's you know, that's a pretty good drive. Yeah,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: but it's it's doable for a lot of Southwest I
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: think directors. I think they does or still does used
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: to have one of the other direct flights.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: But that's that's a great city. Pittsburgh. I think that'll
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: be cool just.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Because I mean, look it's it's Pittsburgh, man, I mean,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: you got history there with the Steel Curtain. I'm curious
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: where in Pittsburgh is going to do it though, Yeah,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a great question. You know, it
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: felt like there's a theater right next to them. Nobody,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: nobody is really doing it in one particular venue because
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I mean what they're doing is they're building the venue
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: outdoors to be able to handle the masses. Yeah, you know,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: so I don't think it so much depends on a
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: city that has a venue that can handle it, because
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: they're just building them temporarily. Point Park. That's where they
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: might have it, right there on the point, on the
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: confluence with the fountain and the whole thing.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Why not easy to get to infrastructure already in place,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: you know, downtown, right, yeah, I mean, it'd be perfect.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Makes sense to me have the stadium.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Also, they didn't ask me there attractions there at the stadium.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: It'll be fun. What are you gonna watch any of
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: the combine workouts? Do you get into that? No? No, no,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I put it this way. I catch the highlights,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to tune in and watch watch
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: it and grind it out.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Give me the.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Highlights, give me the important information. I'd rather spend that
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: time watching players play football as opposed to run around
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: in shorts and underwear. Mean, I mean, now, a few
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: of the top end prospects, you know that, you know,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: the most draft prognosticators are going to have in the
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: top ten or fifteen. I'll pay close attention to what
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: they're doing, just because obviously the Jaguars picking at five
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: gonna have something to say about you know, those players.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: But for the most part, again, I'd rather watch players
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: play football real quick.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: How many times right now? Could you be expressed to
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: twenty five me right now?
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Eight okay, eight. Maybe I don't want to call you out.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just curious. Maybe.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: And I wouldn't even want to do it because I'd
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: be scared about popping a muscle something.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: It would be on camera too.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you man in a couple of weeks, yeah,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: and I'll work on my.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Two twenty three flogging it. I'm JP Shadwick. Thanks for listening.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour.