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The Boundless Dimension of Divine Love: A Potential Available to Us All with A. H. Almaas · Deep Transformation

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  This
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  is
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  part
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  11th
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  dialogue
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  in
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  the
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  Ah
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  Almas
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  Wisdom
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  series
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  today.
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  In
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  this
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  conversation
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  we
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  discuss
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  the
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  boundless
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  ocean
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  of
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  divine
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  love.
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  Welcome.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  Deep
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  Transformation,
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  Self,
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  Society,
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  Spirit,
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  Life
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  enhancing,
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  paradigm
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  rattling
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  conversations
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  with
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  cutting
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  edge
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  thinkers,
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  contemplatives
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  and
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  activists
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  with
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  Dr.
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  Roger
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  Walsh
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  and
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  John
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  Dupuy.
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  I'm
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  Roger
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  Walsh
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  and
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  our
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  co
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  host
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  is
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  John
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  Dupuy.
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  We
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  are
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  delighted
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  to
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  have
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  with
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  us
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  once
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  again
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  for
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  our
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  11th
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  dialogue
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  amid
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  Ali,
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  whose
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  pen
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  name
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  is
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  Ah
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  Almas,
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  founder
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  of
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  the
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  Diamond
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  Approach,
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  author
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  of
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  multiple
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  books
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  and
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  particularly
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  the
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  one
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  we
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  are
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  working
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  through
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  in
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  this
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  series,
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  the
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  Inner
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  Journey
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  Home,
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  which
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  provides
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  an
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  overview
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  of,
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  of
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  his
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  thinking,
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  his
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  teaching,
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  his
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  practice
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  as
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  laid
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  out
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  in
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  the
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  Diamond
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  Approach.
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  And
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  we
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  are
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  moving
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  to
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  another,
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  literally
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  another
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  dimension
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  today
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  because
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  the
• 1:08
  Diamond
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  Approach
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  lays
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  out
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  the
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  idea
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  that
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  true
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  nature,
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  our
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  true
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  nature,
• 1:14
  reveals
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  itself
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  as
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  many
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  different
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  dimensions
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  or
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  aspects
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  or
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  flavors
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  and
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  focuses
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  in
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  particular
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  on
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  five
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  boundless
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  dimensions.
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  And
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  Amit,
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  I'm
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  going
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  to
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  quote
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  something
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  you
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  said
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  about
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  these.
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  You
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  said
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  to
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  give
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  a
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  detailed
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  exposition
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  of
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  the
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  five
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  boundless
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  dimensions
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  would
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  require
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  five
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  books
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  as
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  big
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  as
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  this
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  one.
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  And
• 1:39
  the
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  Inner
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  journey
• 1:40
  home
• 1:40
  is
• 1:40
  700
• 1:41
  pages.
• 1:41
  So
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  there's
• 1:42
  obviously
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  a
• 1:43
  lot
• 1:43
  to
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  say
• 1:44
  about
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  each
• 1:45
  of
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  these
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  boundless
• 1:46
  dimensions.
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  But
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  you
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  begin
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  with
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  the
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  boundless
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  dimension,
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  which
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  you
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  describe
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  as
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  love
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  and
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  light.
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  So
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  perhaps
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  you
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  could
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  just
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  talk,
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  give
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  us
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  an
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  overview
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  of
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  the,
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  of
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  the
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  five
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  boundless
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  dimensions
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  and
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  then
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  segue
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  into
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  this,
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  this
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  particular
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  one.
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  It
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  is
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  true
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  we
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  are
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  transitioning
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  to
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  different
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  parts
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  of
• 2:10
  the
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  teaching.
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  If
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  you
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  remember,
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  the
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  teaching
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  has
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  different
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  turnings.
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  I
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  call
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  them
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  turnings,
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  a
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  wheel
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  of
• 2:17
  teaching.
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  So
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  we've
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  been
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  working
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  with
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  the
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  first
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  turning.
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  This
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  is
• 2:22
  the
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  second
• 2:23
  turning.
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  This
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  is
• 2:24
  the
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  beginning
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  of
• 2:25
  the
• 2:25
  second
• 2:25
  turning.
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  So
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  second
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  turning
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  consists
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  mostly
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  of
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  the
• 2:30
  teaching
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  of
• 2:31
  the
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  what
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  I
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  call
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  boundless
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  dimension.
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  I'll
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  explain
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  in
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  a
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  minute
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  what
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  I
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  mean
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  by
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  boundless
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  and
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  has
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  also
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  two
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  journeys
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  in
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  it.
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  There
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  is
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  Journey
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  of
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  Ascent
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  and
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  Journey
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  of
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  Descent,
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  which
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  is
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  also
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  classical
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  many
• 2:50
  mystical
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  teachings
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  about
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  ascent,
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  descent.
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  So
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  learning
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  about
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  the
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  five
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  dimensions
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  is
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  a
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  journey
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  of
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  ascent
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  going
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  sort
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  of
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  deeper
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  or
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  higher,
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  subtler.
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  And
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  then
• 3:07
  the
• 3:07
  descent
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  is
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  how
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  to
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  integrate
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  from
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  the
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  top
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  into
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  everyday
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  life.
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  So
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  in
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  this
• 3:19
  teaching
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  the,
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  the
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  first
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  merged
• 3:22
  in
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  a
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  full
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  way
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  what
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  I
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  ended
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  up
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  calling
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  divine
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  love,
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  Father's
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  dimension
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  of
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  Divine
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  Love,
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  which
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  is
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  love
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  and
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  light,
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  inseparable.
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  I
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  remember
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  the
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  first
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  time
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  I
• 3:38
  had
• 3:39
  the
• 3:39
  full
• 3:40
  experience
• 3:40
  of
• 3:40
  it.
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  I've
• 3:41
  experienced
• 3:42
  love
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  and
• 3:42
  stuff
• 3:43
  many
• 3:43
  times
• 3:43
  before
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  in
• 3:44
  different
• 3:44
  ways
• 3:45
  and
• 3:46
  even,
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  you
• 3:49
  know,
• 3:49
  love
• 3:50
  everywhere
• 3:50
  I've
• 3:50
  experienced
• 3:51
  before.
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  But
• 3:53
  this
• 3:53
  is,
• 3:55
  was
• 3:58
  an
• 3:58
  interesting
• 3:59
  kind
• 3:59
  of
• 4:00
  emergence
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  because
• 4:02
  even
• 4:02
  the
• 4:02
  bonded
• 4:03
  dimension
• 4:03
  emerges
• 4:04
  Emergence
• 4:05
  shows
• 4:05
  itself
• 4:05
  and
• 4:06
  shows
• 4:06
  us
• 4:07
  the
• 4:07
  obstacles
• 4:08
  against
• 4:09
  it
• 4:09
  to
• 4:10
  challenge
• 4:10
  them,
• 4:10
  reveal
• 4:11
  them.
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  And
• 4:12
  shows
• 4:12
  more
• 4:12
  and
• 4:13
  more
• 4:13
  about
• 4:13
  itself
• 4:14
  until
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  it
• 4:15
  becomes
• 4:16
  integrated
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  as
• 4:17
  one,
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  as
• 4:19
  what
• 4:19
  we
• 4:20
  experience,
• 4:21
  as
• 4:22
  what
• 4:22
  we
• 4:22
  are,
• 4:24
  you
• 4:24
  know,
• 4:25
  continuously.
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  So
• 4:28
  the
• 4:29
  first
• 4:29
  thing,
• 4:30
  one
• 4:30
  that
• 4:30
  happened
• 4:31
  that
• 4:31
  way,
• 4:33
  for
• 4:33
  me
• 4:33
  at
• 4:34
  least,
• 4:35
  is
• 4:35
  the
• 4:36
  dimension
• 4:37
  of
• 4:37
  love.
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  And
• 4:40
  it's
• 4:40
  love
• 4:40
  that's
• 4:41
  not
• 4:41
  just
• 4:41
  love
• 4:42
  in
• 4:42
  the
• 4:42
  heart,
• 4:42
  but
• 4:43
  love
• 4:43
  everywhere,
• 4:45
  as
• 4:45
  I
• 4:45
  said.
• 4:45
  I
• 4:46
  remember
• 4:46
  the
• 4:46
  first
• 4:47
  time
• 4:47
  I
• 4:47
  experienced
• 4:48
  it.
• 4:49
  Be
• 4:50
  instructive.
• 4:52
  We
• 4:52
  were
• 4:53
  traveling,
• 4:53
  my
• 4:54
  wife
• 4:54
  and
• 4:54
  me,
• 4:54
  to
• 4:55
  Hawaii.
• 4:57
  We
• 4:57
  were
• 4:57
  in
• 4:57
  Maui
• 5:00
  and
• 5:00
  we
• 5:00
  just
• 5:01
  arrived
• 5:01
  at
• 5:01
  Hana,
• 5:03
  Maui.
• 5:04
  It's
• 5:04
  a
• 5:04
  beautiful,
• 5:04
  jungly
• 5:05
  place.
• 5:06
  Wherever
• 5:08
  he
• 5:09
  smelled
• 5:09
  all
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  wonderful
• 5:11
  aromas
• 5:11
  of
• 5:12
  the
• 5:12
  tropical
• 5:13
  forest
• 5:13
  and
• 5:16
  arrived.
• 5:17
  He
• 5:17
  was
• 5:17
  driving,
• 5:17
  so
• 5:18
  I
• 5:18
  was
• 5:18
  tired.
• 5:18
  I
• 5:18
  went
• 5:19
  bedroom
• 5:20
  and
• 5:21
  to
• 5:21
  rest.
• 5:21
  I
• 5:22
  turned
• 5:22
  on
• 5:22
  the
• 5:22
  TV
• 5:23
  just
• 5:23
  to
• 5:23
  look,
• 5:25
  to
• 5:25
  pass
• 5:26
  time.
• 5:27
  And
• 5:30
  was
• 5:30
  nothing
• 5:30
  unusual
• 5:31
  on
• 5:31
  tv,
• 5:32
  some
• 5:32
  shows.
• 5:33
  But
• 5:34
  I
• 5:34
  felt
• 5:34
  I
• 5:34
  was
• 5:35
  in
• 5:35
  the
• 5:35
  tv.
• 5:36
  I
• 5:36
  was
• 5:36
  inside
• 5:36
  there,
• 5:39
  struck
• 5:39
  by
• 5:39
  that.
• 5:39
  What
• 5:40
  I
• 5:40
  mean,
• 5:40
  I'm
• 5:41
  there,
• 5:41
  okay,
• 5:42
  there
• 5:42
  in
• 5:42
  the
• 5:43
  film.
• 5:43
  So
• 5:44
  that's
• 5:44
  interesting.
• 5:45
  So
• 5:45
  turn
• 5:45
  on
• 5:46
  tv.
• 5:46
  Went
• 5:46
  out
• 5:48
  guava
• 5:49
  trees
• 5:49
  and
• 5:49
  things
• 5:49
  like
• 5:50
  that.
• 5:51
  And
• 5:51
  as
• 5:52
  the
• 5:52
  spelling
• 5:52
  thing,
• 5:52
  I
• 5:53
  start
• 5:53
  feeling
• 5:54
  I'm
• 5:54
  also
• 5:54
  on
• 5:55
  the
• 5:55
  tree.
• 5:55
  I
• 5:55
  haven't
• 5:57
  over
• 5:58
  here,
• 5:58
  I'm
• 5:58
  over
• 5:59
  there.
• 5:59
  I
• 6:00
  realized
• 6:00
  I'm
• 6:01
  not.
• 6:01
  I'm
• 6:01
  everywhere.
• 6:02
  I
• 6:02
  said,
• 6:02
  what
• 6:03
  does
• 6:03
  that
• 6:03
  mean?
• 6:03
  I'm
• 6:03
  everywhere.
• 6:04
  And
• 6:05
  here,
• 6:05
  when
• 6:05
  I
• 6:05
  started
• 6:06
  feeling
• 6:06
  everything
• 6:07
  filling
• 6:07
  out
• 6:08
  with
• 6:09
  some
• 6:09
  kind
• 6:09
  of
• 6:10
  richness,
• 6:11
  golden
• 6:13
  richness
• 6:15
  that
• 6:15
  was
• 6:15
  starting
• 6:16
  to
• 6:16
  fill
• 6:16
  out
• 6:17
  everywhere.
• 6:19
  So
• 6:19
  what
• 6:20
  I
• 6:20
  was
• 6:20
  seeing
• 6:21
  over
• 6:21
  here,
• 6:21
  over
• 6:22
  there
• 6:23
  turn
• 6:23
  out
• 6:23
  to
• 6:24
  be
• 6:24
  some
• 6:24
  kind
• 6:24
  of
• 6:26
  consciousness,
• 6:27
  some
• 6:28
  kind
• 6:28
  of
• 6:28
  a
• 6:28
  medium
• 6:29
  of
• 6:29
  consciousness,
• 6:30
  meaning
• 6:31
  conscious
• 6:31
  medium,
• 6:33
  which
• 6:33
  I
• 6:34
  know
• 6:34
  from
• 6:34
  my
• 6:35
  experience
• 6:35
  of
• 6:35
  presence.
• 6:36
  But
• 6:37
  it
• 6:37
  wasn't
• 6:37
  just
• 6:39
  localized.
• 6:40
  Not
• 6:40
  in
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  body
• 6:41
  or
• 6:41
  containing
• 6:42
  the
• 6:42
  body
• 6:42
  or
• 6:43
  the
• 6:43
  room,
• 6:43
  but
• 6:44
  it
• 6:44
  was
• 6:45
  in
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  whole
• 6:46
  environment.
• 6:47
  And
• 6:47
  then
• 6:47
  I
• 6:47
  saw
• 6:48
  that
• 6:48
  everything
• 6:48
  was
• 6:49
  dripping
• 6:49
  with
• 6:49
  that
• 6:50
  love.
• 6:50
  All
• 6:51
  the
• 6:51
  trees,
• 6:52
  first
• 6:52
  the
• 6:52
  dripping
• 6:54
  made
• 6:54
  out
• 6:54
  of
• 6:56
  looked
• 6:57
  like
• 6:57
  light,
• 6:57
  golden
• 6:58
  light.
• 6:58
  And
• 6:58
  then
• 6:58
  I
• 6:59
  realized
• 6:59
  it's
• 6:59
  sweet
• 7:00
  and
• 7:00
  was
• 7:01
  melty,
• 7:02
  kind
• 7:02
  sweetness
• 7:02
  and
• 7:03
  lovingness.
• 7:04
  And
• 7:05
  has
• 7:05
  appreciation,
• 7:06
  blissfulness,
• 7:08
  yummy
• 7:08
  kind
• 7:08
  of
• 7:09
  quality
• 7:09
  to
• 7:10
  it.
• 7:10
  Very
• 7:11
  satisfying
• 7:12
  yummy
• 7:12
  quality.
• 7:14
  And
• 7:14
  it
• 7:14
  was
• 7:15
  like
• 7:16
  filling
• 7:16
  the
• 7:17
  whole
• 7:18
  atmosphere,
• 7:19
  the
• 7:20
  whole
• 7:21
  context.
• 7:23
  Everywhere
• 7:23
  I
• 7:23
  looked.
• 7:26
  It
• 7:26
  wasn't
• 7:27
  like
• 7:27
  appearing
• 7:28
  through
• 7:28
  different
• 7:28
  things.
• 7:29
  It
• 7:29
  was
• 7:29
  one
• 7:29
  thing,
• 7:30
  one
• 7:31
  ocean
• 7:31
  of
• 7:33
  loving
• 7:34
  consciousness
• 7:35
  that
• 7:36
  was
• 7:36
  everywhere,
• 7:37
  pervading
• 7:37
  everything,
• 7:38
  constituting
• 7:39
  everything.
• 7:41
  Even
• 7:41
  the
• 7:42
  fruits
• 7:42
  were
• 7:42
  made
• 7:42
  out
• 7:42
  of
• 7:43
  it.
• 7:44
  Trees
• 7:44
  are
• 7:44
  out
• 7:44
  of
• 7:45
  it.
• 7:45
  My
• 7:45
  body
• 7:45
  was
• 7:45
  made
• 7:46
  out
• 7:46
  of
• 7:46
  it.
• 7:47
  So
• 7:49
  that
• 7:49
  for
• 7:49
  me,
• 7:50
  that
• 7:50
  was
• 7:50
  a
• 7:50
  jump,
• 7:51
  a
• 7:51
  quantum
• 7:52
  leap.
• 7:52
  Until
• 7:53
  experiencing
• 7:53
  presence.
• 7:54
  I'm
• 7:55
  experiencing
• 7:55
  presence
• 7:56
  here.
• 7:56
  But
• 7:56
  this
• 7:57
  is
• 7:57
  what
• 7:57
  I
• 7:57
  call
• 7:57
  boundless
• 7:58
  presence.
• 7:59
  Some
• 8:00
  people
• 8:00
  call
• 8:00
  it
• 8:00
  universal
• 8:01
  or
• 8:01
  infinite.
• 8:04
  I
• 8:04
  call
• 8:04
  it
• 8:04
  boundless.
• 8:05
  And
• 8:05
  it
• 8:05
  says
• 8:05
  it
• 8:05
  has
• 8:06
  no
• 8:06
  boundary,
• 8:06
  doesn't
• 8:07
  end
• 8:08
  because
• 8:08
  really
• 8:10
  you
• 8:10
  can't
• 8:11
  see,
• 8:11
  you
• 8:12
  know,
• 8:12
  infinitely.
• 8:13
  You
• 8:14
  can
• 8:14
  only
• 8:14
  see
• 8:14
  our
• 8:15
  environment.
• 8:16
  Seeing
• 8:17
  and
• 8:17
  feeling.
• 8:18
  I
• 8:18
  mean,
• 8:18
  you
• 8:18
  could
• 8:18
  feel
• 8:19
  it,
• 8:19
  feel
• 8:19
  like
• 8:19
  it
• 8:20
  has
• 8:20
  no
• 8:20
  end.
• 8:21
  And
• 8:21
  it
• 8:23
  both
• 8:24
  infuses
• 8:24
  everything,
• 8:25
  bathes
• 8:25
  everything.
• 8:27
  But
• 8:28
  the
• 8:28
  exquisite
• 8:29
  feeling
• 8:30
  of
• 8:30
  lovingness,
• 8:32
  like
• 8:33
  the
• 8:33
  love
• 8:33
  was
• 8:34
  like
• 8:34
  just
• 8:35
  there.
• 8:37
  The
• 8:37
  nature
• 8:37
  of
• 8:37
  reality
• 8:38
  was
• 8:38
  like
• 8:39
  a
• 8:39
  lovingness.
• 8:41
  Nature,
• 8:41
  reality
• 8:42
  or
• 8:42
  like
• 8:42
  a
• 8:42
  lovingness
• 8:44
  and
• 8:44
  also
• 8:45
  light,
• 8:45
  like
• 8:45
  a
• 8:46
  luminous
• 8:47
  light,
• 8:47
  luminous
• 8:48
  golden
• 8:48
  light.
• 8:50
  So
• 8:50
  I
• 8:50
  could
• 8:50
  see
• 8:50
  it
• 8:50
  as
• 8:51
  light,
• 8:51
  but
• 8:51
  I
• 8:51
  feel
• 8:52
  it
• 8:52
  as
• 8:52
  love.
• 8:52
  But
• 8:53
  it's
• 8:53
  also
• 8:53
  a
• 8:53
  presence,
• 8:54
  rich
• 8:55
  but
• 8:55
  delicate
• 8:56
  presence.
• 8:56
  Not
• 8:56
  like
• 8:56
  dense
• 8:57
  and
• 8:57
  very
• 8:57
  solid.
• 8:58
  It
• 8:58
  wasn't
• 8:59
  like
• 8:59
  that
• 8:59
  was
• 8:59
  flowing,
• 9:00
  fulging
• 9:01
  and
• 9:02
  trees
• 9:02
  everywhere.
• 9:03
  So
• 9:03
  the
• 9:03
  impression,
• 9:04
  you
• 9:04
  know,
• 9:05
  you
• 9:05
  get
• 9:06
  when
• 9:06
  experiencing
• 9:07
  this
• 9:08
  is
• 9:08
  that
• 9:08
  it's
• 9:09
  everywhere.
• 9:11
  It's
• 9:11
  everywhere
• 9:11
  I
• 9:12
  perceive.
• 9:14
  But
• 9:14
  the
• 9:14
  feeling
• 9:15
  is
• 9:15
  she
• 9:15
  must
• 9:15
  be
• 9:16
  everywhere.
• 9:17
  The
• 9:17
  whole
• 9:17
  universe
• 9:18
  is
• 9:18
  made
• 9:18
  out
• 9:19
  of
• 9:19
  it.
• 9:19
  That's
• 9:20
  how
• 9:20
  I
• 9:20
  experienced
• 9:20
  it
• 9:21
  then.
• 9:21
  That's
• 9:21
  how
• 9:21
  I
• 9:22
  believed
• 9:22
  it
• 9:22
  then.
• 9:24
  The
• 9:24
  whole
• 9:24
  universe
• 9:25
  made
• 9:25
  out
• 9:25
  of
• 9:25
  love.
• 9:26
  The
• 9:26
  whole
• 9:27
  universe
• 9:27
  not
• 9:27
  made
• 9:28
  out
• 9:28
  of.
• 9:28
  Exudes
• 9:29
  love.
• 9:30
  Well,
• 9:31
  that's
• 9:31
  an
• 9:31
  incredibly
• 9:32
  powerful
• 9:34
  experience.
• 9:35
  I
• 9:35
  mean,
• 9:36
  that
• 9:36
  basically
• 9:37
  changes
• 9:38
  everything
• 9:38
  from
• 9:39
  an
• 9:39
  existential
• 9:40
  fear
• 9:40
  into,
• 9:43
  oh,
• 9:43
  my
• 9:43
  God,
• 9:44
  it's
• 9:44
  all
• 9:44
  love.
• 9:46
  Yeah,
• 9:47
  all
• 9:48
  is
• 9:48
  love.
• 9:48
  You
• 9:49
  know,
• 9:49
  I
• 9:49
  told
• 9:49
  you
• 9:49
  a
• 9:50
  few
• 9:50
  conversations
• 9:50
  ago
• 9:51
  that
• 9:51
  my
• 9:51
  original
• 9:51
  experience
• 9:52
  when
• 9:52
  I
• 9:52
  was
• 9:52
  11,
• 9:52
  I
• 9:53
  had
• 9:53
  something
• 9:53
  similar
• 9:53
  to
• 9:54
  that
• 9:54
  all
• 9:55
  of
• 9:55
  a
• 9:55
  sudden
• 9:55
  experiences.
• 9:56
  God
• 9:56
  was
• 9:56
  everywhere
• 9:57
  and
• 9:57
  God
• 9:57
  was
• 9:57
  love.
• 9:57
  And
• 9:58
  I'm
• 9:58
  like,
• 9:58
  holy
• 9:58
  cow,
• 9:58
  it's
• 9:59
  like
• 9:59
  11
• 9:59
  years
• 9:59
  old.
• 10:00
  And
• 10:00
  why
• 10:01
  didn't
• 10:01
  anybody
• 10:01
  tell
• 10:01
  me
• 10:02
  this?
• 10:02
  You
• 10:02
  know,
• 10:02
  it's
• 10:02
  the
• 10:03
  most
• 10:03
  important
• 10:03
  thing
• 10:03
  you
• 10:03
  can
• 10:04
  know.
• 10:05
  And
• 10:06
  you
• 10:06
  call
• 10:06
  it
• 10:06
  the
• 10:07
  boundless
• 10:07
  ocean
• 10:08
  of
• 10:08
  love
• 10:08
  and
• 10:08
  light,
• 10:09
  of
• 10:09
  light
• 10:09
  and
• 10:10
  love.
• 10:10
  And
• 10:11
  George
• 10:11
  Fox,
• 10:11
  the
• 10:11
  founder
• 10:12
  of
• 10:12
  the
• 10:12
  Quakers,
• 10:13
  said
• 10:13
  God
• 10:14
  is
• 10:14
  an
• 10:14
  endless
• 10:15
  ocean
• 10:15
  of
• 10:15
  love
• 10:16
  and
• 10:16
  light.
• 10:16
  Almost
• 10:17
  exact
• 10:17
  same
• 10:18
  thing
• 10:18
  that
• 10:18
  you
• 10:18
  were.
• 10:18
  You
• 10:19
  were
• 10:19
  saying
• 10:19
  there.
• 10:19
  So
• 10:20
  I've.
• 10:20
  I
• 10:20
  was
• 10:21
  always
• 10:21
  admired
• 10:21
  of
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  Quakers
• 10:22
  and
• 10:22
  what
• 10:23
  they've
• 10:23
  done
• 10:23
  in
• 10:23
  the
• 10:23
  world.
• 10:24
  And
• 10:25
  that's
• 10:26
  very,
• 10:26
  very
• 10:26
  similar
• 10:27
  to
• 10:27
  what
• 10:27
  you
• 10:27
  experienced.
• 10:28
  Yeah,
• 10:29
  so
• 10:30
  my
• 10:30
  experience
• 10:31
  of
• 10:31
  it
• 10:31
  is
• 10:32
  not
• 10:32
  unique
• 10:33
  because
• 10:34
  many
• 10:34
  have
• 10:34
  experienced
• 10:35
  it
• 10:36
  and
• 10:36
  many
• 10:36
  teachings
• 10:37
  actually
• 10:37
  include
• 10:37
  it
• 10:38
  as
• 10:38
  an
• 10:38
  important
• 10:38
  part
• 10:39
  of
• 10:39
  the
• 10:39
  teaching,
• 10:39
  depending
• 10:40
  on
• 10:40
  what
• 10:40
  the
• 10:40
  teaching
• 10:41
  is.
• 10:41
  Quakers
• 10:42
  probably
• 10:42
  very
• 10:43
  central
• 10:43
  to
• 10:43
  them.
• 10:45
  The
• 10:46
  central
• 10:46
  to
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  Sufis,
• 10:47
  that's
• 10:48
  all
• 10:48
  they
• 10:48
  deal
• 10:48
  with.
• 10:49
  They
• 10:49
  talk
• 10:49
  about
• 10:49
  love.
• 10:50
  You
• 10:50
  know,
• 10:50
  you
• 10:51
  read
• 10:51
  Rumi.
• 10:51
  I
• 10:52
  mean,
• 10:52
  this
• 10:53
  basically
• 10:53
  what
• 10:53
  he's
• 10:54
  saying
• 10:54
  in
• 10:54
  more
• 10:55
  different
• 10:55
  ways
• 10:56
  here
• 10:56
  is
• 10:56
  a
• 10:56
  direct
• 10:57
  experience.
• 10:58
  It
• 10:58
  is
• 10:59
  not
• 11:00
  a
• 11:00
  thought
• 11:01
  or
• 11:01
  a
• 11:01
  belief
• 11:02
  or
• 11:02
  emotion.
• 11:02
  It's
• 11:03
  a
• 11:03
  presence.
• 11:04
  People
• 11:04
  talk
• 11:04
  about
• 11:04
  consciousness,
• 11:05
  universal
• 11:06
  consciousness
• 11:07
  or
• 11:07
  cosmic.
• 11:07
  It
• 11:08
  is
• 11:08
  consciousness
• 11:09
  because
• 11:10
  it's
• 11:10
  made
• 11:10
  out
• 11:10
  of
• 11:11
  consciousness.
• 11:11
  But
• 11:11
  this
• 11:11
  consciousness
• 11:12
  has
• 11:12
  the
• 11:12
  flavor
• 11:13
  of
• 11:13
  love.
• 11:13
  It's
• 11:14
  a
• 11:14
  conscious
• 11:15
  love.
• 11:15
  It's
• 11:15
  a
• 11:16
  medium
• 11:16
  of
• 11:16
  Pure
• 11:17
  consciousness,
• 11:18
  conscious
• 11:18
  of
• 11:19
  itself.
• 11:19
  It
• 11:19
  knows
• 11:20
  itself
• 11:21
  as
• 11:22
  feels
• 11:22
  itself
• 11:23
  and
• 11:23
  knows
• 11:23
  itself
• 11:24
  as
• 11:25
  a
• 11:25
  kind
• 11:25
  of
• 11:26
  love
• 11:26
  that
• 11:27
  lights
• 11:27
  up
• 11:27
  the
• 11:28
  world.
• 11:28
  And
• 11:29
  it
• 11:29
  is.
• 11:29
  I
• 11:30
  remember
• 11:30
  thinking,
• 11:31
  well,
• 11:32
  if
• 11:32
  everybody
• 11:33
  knows
• 11:33
  this,
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  world
• 11:34
  will
• 11:34
  be
• 11:35
  at
• 11:35
  peace.
• 11:35
  Nobody
• 11:36
  will
• 11:36
  do
• 11:36
  anything
• 11:37
  bad
• 11:37
  to
• 11:37
  anybody
• 11:37
  else.
• 11:38
  I
• 11:38
  mean,
• 11:40
  everybody
• 11:40
  will
• 11:40
  be
• 11:40
  happy,
• 11:41
  contented
• 11:42
  and
• 11:42
  feel
• 11:43
  loved
• 11:43
  and
• 11:43
  loving
• 11:44
  and.
• 11:45
  But
• 11:46
  it
• 11:46
  is
• 11:46
  a
• 11:46
  potential
• 11:47
  for
• 11:48
  a
• 11:48
  human
• 11:48
  being
• 11:49
  to
• 11:49
  experience
• 11:50
  this
• 11:50
  obviously.
• 11:52
  Now
• 11:52
  there
• 11:52
  are
• 11:52
  many
• 11:53
  things.
• 11:53
  You
• 11:54
  know,
• 11:54
  I
• 11:54
  think
• 11:54
  that
• 11:55
  there's
• 11:55
  a
• 11:55
  whole
• 11:55
  chapter
• 11:56
  I
• 11:56
  written
• 11:56
  there
• 11:56
  about
• 11:57
  it
• 11:58
  detailed
• 11:59
  different
• 11:59
  things.
• 12:00
  But
• 12:00
  the
• 12:00
  most
• 12:01
  important
• 12:01
  thing
• 12:01
  is
• 12:02
  that
• 12:02
  it
• 12:02
  is
• 12:03
  what's
• 12:03
  called
• 12:03
  non
• 12:04
  dual.
• 12:05
  Non
• 12:05
  dual
• 12:06
  here
• 12:06
  is
• 12:07
  a
• 12:07
  full.
• 12:07
  Non
• 12:08
  duality
• 12:09
  doesn't
• 12:09
  mean
• 12:10
  just
• 12:10
  non
• 12:11
  duality
• 12:11
  between
• 12:12
  subject
• 12:12
  and
• 12:13
  object.
• 12:13
  There's
• 12:14
  no
• 12:14
  subject.
• 12:14
  There's
• 12:15
  just
• 12:15
  one
• 12:16
  thing
• 12:16
  that
• 12:16
  is
• 12:17
  both
• 12:17
  subject
• 12:17
  and
• 12:18
  object
• 12:18
  is
• 12:18
  aware
• 12:19
  of
• 12:19
  itself.
• 12:20
  But
• 12:21
  also
• 12:21
  nothing
• 12:22
  is
• 12:22
  separate
• 12:22
  from
• 12:22
  anything
• 12:23
  else.
• 12:24
  That's
• 12:24
  really
• 12:24
  the
• 12:25
  main
• 12:25
  meaning.
• 12:25
  Non
• 12:26
  duality.
• 12:26
  There's
• 12:26
  no
• 12:27
  separation
• 12:28
  because
• 12:28
  everything
• 12:28
  is
• 12:29
  that
• 12:29
  thing.
• 12:30
  One
• 12:31
  indivisible
• 12:33
  medium
• 12:34
  of
• 12:35
  loving
• 12:35
  consciousness.
• 12:37
  So
• 12:37
  I
• 12:38
  mean,
• 12:38
  we
• 12:38
  could
• 12:39
  say
• 12:39
  it
• 12:39
  pervades
• 12:40
  everything.
• 12:40
  We
• 12:40
  could
• 12:40
  say
• 12:41
  it
• 12:41
  exudes
• 12:41
  from
• 12:41
  everything.
• 12:42
  But
• 12:42
  we
• 12:42
  could
• 12:43
  also
• 12:43
  say
• 12:43
  it's
• 12:44
  makes
• 12:44
  up
• 12:45
  everything.
• 12:45
  And
• 12:46
  all
• 12:47
  these
• 12:47
  are
• 12:47
  true
• 12:47
  depending
• 12:48
  on
• 12:49
  the
• 12:49
  experience.
• 12:51
  It
• 12:51
  has
• 12:52
  a
• 12:52
  sense
• 12:52
  in
• 12:52
  it
• 12:52
  of
• 12:53
  giving
• 12:54
  generosity,
• 12:56
  like
• 12:56
  the
• 12:57
  universe
• 12:57
  is
• 12:57
  being
• 12:57
  generous,
• 12:58
  giving
• 12:58
  out
• 12:59
  of
• 12:59
  its
• 12:59
  heart.
• 13:00
  As
• 13:01
  I
• 13:01
  said,
• 13:02
  the
• 13:02
  feeling
• 13:03
  and
• 13:03
  the
• 13:03
  perception
• 13:04
  is
• 13:04
  as
• 13:04
  far
• 13:05
  as
• 13:05
  I
• 13:05
  can
• 13:05
  see,
• 13:06
  as
• 13:06
  far
• 13:06
  as
• 13:06
  I
• 13:07
  can
• 13:07
  feel.
• 13:08
  And
• 13:08
  then
• 13:09
  the
• 13:09
  feeling
• 13:09
  that
• 13:09
  it
• 13:10
  is
• 13:10
  infinite
• 13:11
  and
• 13:12
  then
• 13:12
  took
• 13:13
  me
• 13:13
  years
• 13:13
  to
• 13:13
  realize
• 13:14
  to
• 13:14
  say
• 13:14
  it's
• 13:14
  infinite
• 13:15
  is
• 13:15
  real,
• 13:16
  really
• 13:17
  subjective
• 13:18
  feeling.
• 13:18
  It's.
• 13:19
  We
• 13:19
  don't
• 13:19
  know
• 13:20
  it's
• 13:20
  infinite
• 13:20
  or
• 13:20
  not.
• 13:21
  We
• 13:22
  only
• 13:22
  know
• 13:22
  we
• 13:22
  can't
• 13:23
  see
• 13:23
  the
• 13:23
  end.
• 13:25
  No.
• 13:26
  Because
• 13:26
  human
• 13:27
  being
• 13:27
  really
• 13:27
  never
• 13:28
  experienced
• 13:28
  infinity.
• 13:29
  If
• 13:29
  you
• 13:29
  think
• 13:29
  of
• 13:30
  it,
• 13:30
  can
• 13:31
  you
• 13:31
  ever
• 13:31
  experience
• 13:32
  an
• 13:32
  infinite
• 13:33
  scene?
• 13:33
  Infinite
• 13:34
  line,
• 13:34
  for
• 13:34
  instance.
• 13:36
  Never
• 13:36
  see
• 13:37
  the
• 13:37
  infinite
• 13:37
  line.
• 13:38
  You
• 13:38
  know
• 13:38
  that
• 13:39
  line
• 13:39
  doesn't
• 13:39
  end.
• 13:40
  Later
• 13:41
  on
• 13:41
  I
• 13:41
  got
• 13:41
  to
• 13:42
  see
• 13:42
  that.
• 13:42
  Well,
• 13:44
  it
• 13:44
  is
• 13:44
  true
• 13:45
  and
• 13:46
  probably
• 13:46
  true.
• 13:46
  It's
• 13:47
  everywhere.
• 13:48
  But
• 13:48
  it
• 13:48
  is
• 13:49
  like
• 13:49
  our
• 13:49
  mind,
• 13:50
  our
• 13:50
  psychic
• 13:51
  can't
• 13:51
  help
• 13:52
  but
• 13:53
  come
• 13:53
  to
• 13:53
  this
• 13:53
  conclusion
• 13:54
  that
• 13:54
  it
• 13:55
  is
• 13:56
  the
• 13:56
  whole
• 13:56
  universe.
• 13:57
  Everything
• 13:57
  is
• 13:57
  like
• 13:58
  that.
• 13:59
  And
• 14:00
  which
• 14:00
  is
• 14:02
  how
• 14:02
  it
• 14:03
  feels.
• 14:04
  The
• 14:04
  feeling
• 14:04
  is
• 14:05
  always
• 14:05
  there.
• 14:07
  And
• 14:07
  why
• 14:08
  isn't
• 14:08
  nobody
• 14:09
  experiences
• 14:10
  it.
• 14:11
  This
• 14:11
  is
• 14:11
  always
• 14:12
  available
• 14:13
  and
• 14:14
  people
• 14:15
  just
• 14:15
  are
• 14:16
  not
• 14:16
  in
• 14:16
  touch
• 14:16
  with.
• 14:18
  Took
• 14:19
  me
• 14:19
  several.
• 14:20
  I
• 14:21
  got
• 14:21
  all
• 14:21
  the
• 14:21
  way
• 14:21
  to
• 14:22
  the
• 14:22
  fourth
• 14:22
  turning
• 14:22
  before
• 14:23
  I
• 14:23
  realized
• 14:24
  it
• 14:24
  is
• 14:24
  really.
• 14:25
  To
• 14:25
  say
• 14:25
  it's
• 14:26
  always
• 14:26
  there
• 14:28
  is
• 14:28
  problematic
• 14:29
  in
• 14:30
  some
• 14:30
  sense.
• 14:31
  Because
• 14:32
  that's
• 14:32
  not
• 14:32
  how
• 14:32
  most
• 14:32
  people
• 14:34
  experience
• 14:34
  things.
• 14:35
  I
• 14:35
  don't
• 14:35
  experience
• 14:35
  most
• 14:36
  people.
• 14:36
  They
• 14:36
  say
• 14:36
  what
• 14:36
  is
• 14:37
  it
• 14:38
  they
• 14:39
  doubt?
• 14:39
  God.
• 14:40
  And
• 14:40
  whether
• 14:40
  there
• 14:41
  is
• 14:41
  a
• 14:41
  God,
• 14:41
  whether
• 14:42
  there
• 14:42
  is
• 14:43
  love
• 14:43
  everywhere.
• 14:44
  I
• 14:45
  got
• 14:45
  to
• 14:45
  at
• 14:45
  some
• 14:46
  point
• 14:46
  to
• 14:47
  Say
• 14:47
  it
• 14:47
  is
• 14:47
  potentially
• 14:48
  there
• 14:49
  everywhere,
• 14:50
  and
• 14:51
  it
• 14:51
  appears
• 14:52
  that
• 14:52
  way
• 14:52
  for
• 14:52
  the
• 14:52
  one
• 14:53
  who's
• 14:53
  ready.
• 14:54
  That
• 14:54
  seems
• 14:55
  a
• 14:55
  very
• 14:56
  crucial
• 14:56
  point,
• 14:57
  Hamid,
• 14:57
  because
• 14:58
  there
• 14:58
  are
• 14:59
  in
• 14:59
  multiple
• 15:00
  traditions
• 15:01
  there's
• 15:01
  this
• 15:02
  implication
• 15:02
  that
• 15:03
  often
• 15:04
  in
• 15:04
  the
• 15:04
  monotheistic
• 15:05
  traditions,
• 15:07
  God
• 15:07
  is
• 15:07
  always
• 15:07
  there
• 15:08
  and
• 15:08
  available.
• 15:09
  And
• 15:09
  in
• 15:10
  for
• 15:10
  example,
• 15:10
  zogchen
• 15:11
  rigpa,
• 15:12
  that
• 15:12
  is
• 15:13
  pure
• 15:13
  awareness
• 15:14
  is
• 15:14
  always
• 15:15
  present
• 15:15
  but
• 15:15
  obscured
• 15:16
  by
• 15:16
  our
• 15:17
  thoughts
• 15:17
  and
• 15:18
  obscurations,
• 15:19
  etc.
• 15:20
  And
• 15:21
  the
• 15:21
  question
• 15:21
  for
• 15:21
  me
• 15:22
  has
• 15:22
  been,
• 15:22
  well,
• 15:23
  yeah,
• 15:23
  presumably,
• 15:24
  I
• 15:24
  mean,
• 15:25
  that
• 15:25
  makes.
• 15:25
  There's
• 15:26
  a
• 15:26
  sense
• 15:26
  to
• 15:26
  that,
• 15:26
  but
• 15:27
  how
• 15:27
  can
• 15:27
  I
• 15:28
  know
• 15:28
  that
• 15:28
  for
• 15:29
  sure?
• 15:30
  Yeah,
• 15:30
  that
• 15:31
  takes
• 15:32
  a
• 15:32
  great
• 15:32
  deal
• 15:32
  of
• 15:32
  experience
• 15:34
  and
• 15:34
  investigation
• 15:35
  and
• 15:36
  contemplation
• 15:37
  to
• 15:38
  come
• 15:38
  to
• 15:38
  see
• 15:38
  that
• 15:38
  the
• 15:39
  experience
• 15:39
  itself
• 15:40
  does
• 15:40
  not
• 15:41
  really
• 15:41
  say
• 15:44
  is
• 15:45
  the
• 15:45
  feeling
• 15:45
  how
• 15:46
  real
• 15:46
  it
• 15:46
  is,
• 15:47
  how
• 15:48
  fundamental
• 15:49
  that
• 15:50
  makes
• 15:51
  the
• 15:51
  mind
• 15:51
  believe
• 15:51
  it
• 15:52
  must
• 15:52
  be
• 15:52
  over
• 15:52
  there.
• 15:53
  And
• 15:53
  in
• 15:53
  some
• 15:54
  sense
• 15:54
  it's
• 15:54
  always
• 15:55
  there,
• 15:55
  but
• 15:55
  not
• 15:55
  manifest
• 15:58
  except
• 15:58
  for
• 15:58
  the
• 15:59
  one
• 15:59
  who's
• 15:59
  capable
• 16:00
  of
• 16:00
  experiencing
• 16:01
  it.
• 16:02
  Then
• 16:02
  it
• 16:02
  manifests.
• 16:03
  It
• 16:04
  manifests.
• 16:04
  So
• 16:05
  the
• 16:05
  individual
• 16:06
  consciousness
• 16:06
  is
• 16:06
  very
• 16:07
  important
• 16:08
  for
• 16:08
  experiencing
• 16:09
  it
• 16:09
  as
• 16:10
  everywhere.
• 16:11
  You
• 16:12
  see,
• 16:12
  not
• 16:12
  everybody
• 16:13
  experiences
• 16:13
  that
• 16:13
  way.
• 16:14
  Well,
• 16:15
  the
• 16:15
  one
• 16:16
  reason
• 16:16
  why
• 16:17
  I
• 16:17
  got
• 16:17
  to
• 16:18
  get
• 16:18
  this
• 16:19
  understanding,
• 16:20
  Roger,
• 16:21
  and
• 16:21
  that
• 16:22
  there
• 16:23
  are
• 16:23
  many
• 16:23
  things,
• 16:24
  many
• 16:24
  dimensions
• 16:25
  that
• 16:25
  appear
• 16:25
  and
• 16:26
  fear
• 16:26
  is
• 16:26
  always
• 16:27
  there.
• 16:28
  And
• 16:28
  as
• 16:28
  you
• 16:29
  know,
• 16:29
  many
• 16:29
  teachings,
• 16:30
  they
• 16:30
  think
• 16:31
  they're
• 16:32
  up
• 16:32
  the
• 16:32
  ultimate
• 16:33
  which
• 16:34
  define
• 16:34
  it
• 16:34
  when
• 16:35
  it
• 16:35
  is
• 16:35
  always
• 16:35
  there
• 16:36
  and
• 16:36
  then
• 16:37
  which
• 16:37
  one
• 16:38
  is
• 16:38
  right,
• 16:38
  then.
• 16:40
  So
• 16:40
  like
• 16:41
  saying
• 16:42
  seeing
• 16:42
  that,
• 16:42
  well,
• 16:43
  it
• 16:44
  is
• 16:44
  potentially
• 16:45
  there
• 16:45
  because
• 16:46
  it
• 16:46
  is
• 16:47
  inherent
• 16:48
  in
• 16:48
  true
• 16:48
  nature
• 16:49
  to
• 16:49
  have
• 16:49
  this
• 16:50
  quality
• 16:51
  and
• 16:51
  through
• 16:51
  nature,
• 16:52
  the
• 16:52
  nature
• 16:52
  of
• 16:52
  everything.
• 16:54
  However,
• 16:54
  we
• 16:55
  don't
• 16:55
  always
• 16:55
  see
• 16:56
  it
• 16:56
  as
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  nature
• 16:56
  of
• 16:57
  everything
• 16:57
  until
• 16:58
  manifest
• 16:59
  to
• 16:59
  the
• 16:59
  consciousness
• 17:00
  that
• 17:00
  are
• 17:00
  ripe
• 17:00
  enough
• 17:01
  for
• 17:01
  it.
• 17:02
  And
• 17:02
  when
• 17:02
  we
• 17:03
  see
• 17:03
  that,
• 17:03
  then
• 17:05
  can
• 17:05
  manifest
• 17:06
  any
• 17:06
  of
• 17:06
  its
• 17:06
  possibilities
• 17:08
  to
• 17:08
  that
• 17:08
  consciousness
• 17:09
  that
• 17:09
  is
• 17:09
  ripened
• 17:11
  and
• 17:11
  then
• 17:11
  it
• 17:12
  feels
• 17:12
  and
• 17:12
  we
• 17:13
  see
• 17:13
  it.
• 17:13
  So
• 17:14
  potentially
• 17:15
  it's
• 17:15
  everywhere,
• 17:15
  but
• 17:16
  doesn't
• 17:16
  mean
• 17:16
  everywhere
• 17:17
  in
• 17:17
  the
• 17:17
  sense
• 17:17
  that
• 17:17
  it's
• 17:17
  going
• 17:17
  to
• 17:18
  impact
• 17:18
  everybody
• 17:20
  the
• 17:20
  way
• 17:20
  it's
• 17:21
  impacting
• 17:21
  me.
• 17:21
  Because
• 17:22
  other
• 17:22
  people
• 17:23
  are
• 17:23
  not
• 17:23
  aware,
• 17:24
  not
• 17:24
  impacted.
• 17:26
  You
• 17:26
  know,
• 17:27
  maybe
• 17:27
  people
• 17:27
  who
• 17:28
  are
• 17:28
  around
• 17:28
  me
• 17:28
  because
• 17:29
  how
• 17:29
  I
• 17:29
  am
• 17:29
  and
• 17:30
  I'm
• 17:30
  behaving
• 17:30
  and
• 17:30
  they
• 17:31
  get
• 17:31
  impacted.
• 17:32
  But
• 17:32
  you
• 17:32
  know,
• 17:33
  the
• 17:33
  rest
• 17:33
  of
• 17:33
  the
• 17:33
  world
• 17:34
  have
• 17:34
  no
• 17:34
  idea
• 17:35
  that
• 17:37
  this
• 17:37
  experience
• 17:38
  happening
• 17:38
  or
• 17:39
  there
• 17:39
  is
• 17:39
  this
• 17:40
  ocean
• 17:41
  of
• 17:41
  divine
• 17:42
  love
• 17:42
  that
• 17:44
  available
• 17:45
  for
• 17:45
  everybody.
• 17:47
  So
• 17:47
  what
• 17:48
  we
• 17:48
  can
• 17:48
  say
• 17:48
  is
• 17:49
  available
• 17:49
  for
• 17:49
  everybody
• 17:51
  and
• 17:51
  it
• 17:51
  is
• 17:52
  potentially
• 17:54
  possible
• 17:54
  for
• 17:54
  every
• 17:55
  human
• 17:55
  being
• 17:55
  not
• 17:56
  to
• 17:56
  only
• 17:56
  experience
• 17:56
  it,
• 17:57
  but
• 17:57
  to
• 17:58
  experience
• 17:58
  it
• 17:58
  as
• 17:59
  constituting
• 18:00
  everything
• 18:01
  and
• 18:01
  the
• 18:01
  nature
• 18:01
  of
• 18:02
  everything.
• 18:02
  And
• 18:03
  you
• 18:03
  speak
• 18:03
  a
• 18:03
  Mead
• 18:04
  or
• 18:04
  you
• 18:04
  write
• 18:04
  in
• 18:05
  your
• 18:05
  book
• 18:05
  of
• 18:05
  the
• 18:06
  different
• 18:07
  ways
• 18:08
  in
• 18:08
  which
• 18:08
  this
• 18:09
  can
• 18:09
  be
• 18:09
  experienced.
• 18:09
  And
• 18:10
  it
• 18:10
  seems
• 18:11
  like
• 18:11
  different
• 18:11
  degrees
• 18:12
  of
• 18:12
  depth.
• 18:12
  You
• 18:13
  speak
• 18:13
  of
• 18:13
  saying
• 18:13
  the
• 18:14
  soul
• 18:14
  can
• 18:14
  experience
• 18:15
  being
• 18:15
  conscious
• 18:16
  light
• 18:16
  that
• 18:17
  witnesses
• 18:17
  everything.
• 18:18
  But
• 18:19
  beyond
• 18:19
  that,
• 18:19
  then
• 18:20
  there
• 18:20
  can
• 18:20
  be
• 18:20
  the
• 18:21
  experience
• 18:21
  you're
• 18:21
  talking
• 18:21
  about,
• 18:22
  that
• 18:22
  this
• 18:22
  pure
• 18:23
  love,
• 18:24
  light
• 18:24
  is
• 18:25
  the
• 18:25
  ground
• 18:26
  of
• 18:27
  everything.
• 18:28
  So
• 18:29
  it
• 18:30
  seems
• 18:30
  like
• 18:30
  there
• 18:31
  are
• 18:31
  degrees
• 18:32
  of
• 18:32
  realization
• 18:33
  here
• 18:33
  you're
• 18:33
  pointing
• 18:34
  to.
• 18:34
  Yeah,
• 18:35
  so
• 18:35
  the
• 18:36
  person
• 18:36
  can
• 18:37
  realize
• 18:37
  in
• 18:38
  different
• 18:38
  degrees
• 18:38
  in
• 18:39
  terms
• 18:39
  of
• 18:39
  how
• 18:40
  complete
• 18:41
  the
• 18:41
  experience
• 18:42
  is,
• 18:42
  how
• 18:44
  fully
• 18:45
  pervades
• 18:45
  everything.
• 18:46
  So
• 18:47
  that
• 18:47
  book
• 18:47
  mentions
• 18:48
  five
• 18:48
  boundless
• 18:49
  dimensions.
• 18:50
  This
• 18:50
  is
• 18:50
  one
• 18:50
  of
• 18:51
  them,
• 18:51
  the
• 18:51
  first
• 18:52
  one
• 18:52
  that
• 18:52
  emerges,
• 18:53
  in
• 18:53
  fact.
• 18:53
  In
• 18:53
  fact
• 18:53
  the
• 18:53
  easiest
• 18:54
  to
• 18:54
  relate
• 18:54
  to
• 18:55
  for
• 18:55
  human
• 18:55
  being.
• 18:55
  Human
• 18:56
  being,
• 18:56
  easy
• 18:56
  for
• 18:57
  them
• 18:57
  to
• 18:57
  relate
• 18:57
  to
• 18:57
  love.
• 18:58
  Not
• 18:58
  to
• 18:59
  awareness
• 18:59
  or
• 18:59
  emptiness
• 19:00
  or
• 19:00
  anything
• 19:00
  like
• 19:00
  that.
• 19:01
  You
• 19:01
  know,
• 19:01
  those
• 19:02
  seem
• 19:02
  to
• 19:02
  abstract
• 19:03
  for
• 19:03
  human
• 19:03
  being.
• 19:03
  But
• 19:04
  love,
• 19:04
  everybody
• 19:05
  wants
• 19:05
  love,
• 19:06
  want
• 19:06
  to
• 19:06
  be
• 19:06
  loved.
• 19:06
  And
• 19:07
  so.
• 19:08
  So
• 19:09
  it's
• 19:09
  a
• 19:09
  welcome
• 19:09
  experience
• 19:10
  usually.
• 19:12
  And
• 19:12
  easier
• 19:13
  to
• 19:13
  relate
• 19:13
  to,
• 19:14
  easier
• 19:14
  to
• 19:15
  open
• 19:16
  up
• 19:16
  to.
• 19:17
  But
• 19:17
  when
• 19:17
  I
• 19:17
  mention
• 19:18
  five
• 19:18
  part
• 19:18
  dimension,
• 19:20
  I
• 19:20
  mean
• 19:21
  dimension,
• 19:22
  not
• 19:22
  dimension
• 19:23
  like
• 19:23
  spatial
• 19:24
  dimension,
• 19:24
  you
• 19:25
  know,
• 19:25
  not
• 19:26
  like
• 19:26
  intersecting
• 19:27
  each
• 19:27
  other.
• 19:27
  You
• 19:28
  know,
• 19:29
  it's
• 19:30
  more
• 19:30
  like
• 19:30
  their
• 19:32
  dimension
• 19:33
  in
• 19:33
  the
• 19:33
  sense
• 19:33
  that
• 19:34
  each
• 19:34
  one
• 19:35
  of
• 19:35
  them
• 19:35
  is
• 19:35
  a
• 19:36
  little
• 19:36
  subtler,
• 19:37
  a
• 19:37
  little
• 19:37
  more
• 19:38
  fundament.
• 19:40
  But
• 19:40
  they're
• 19:40
  all
• 19:41
  really
• 19:41
  there
• 19:41
  all
• 19:42
  at
• 19:42
  the
• 19:42
  same
• 19:42
  time.
• 19:43
  Although
• 19:43
  you
• 19:44
  might
• 19:44
  not
• 19:44
  be
• 19:44
  aware
• 19:44
  of
• 19:44
  them
• 19:45
  all
• 19:45
  at
• 19:45
  the
• 19:45
  same
• 19:45
  time.
• 19:46
  Meaning
• 19:47
  they're
• 19:47
  all
• 19:47
  implicitly
• 19:48
  in
• 19:48
  true
• 19:49
  nature.
• 19:50
  And
• 19:50
  they're
• 19:50
  probably
• 19:51
  also
• 19:51
  other
• 19:51
  dimensions
• 19:52
  beside
• 19:52
  the
• 19:52
  five.
• 19:53
  I
• 19:53
  focus
• 19:53
  on
• 19:53
  those
• 19:54
  five
• 19:54
  and
• 19:54
  the
• 19:54
  teaching
• 19:55
  probably.
• 19:57
  But
• 19:58
  the
• 19:58
  idea
• 19:59
  here
• 19:59
  is,
• 20:00
  even
• 20:00
  though
• 20:01
  this
• 20:01
  is
• 20:01
  a
• 20:01
  non
• 20:01
  dual
• 20:03
  consciousness,
• 20:05
  I
• 20:05
  am
• 20:06
  saying
• 20:06
  the
• 20:07
  five
• 20:07
  dimensions
• 20:08
  basically
• 20:09
  point
• 20:09
  to
• 20:09
  the
• 20:10
  fact
• 20:11
  that
• 20:11
  non
• 20:11
  dual
• 20:12
  consciousness
• 20:13
  has
• 20:13
  dimensions.
• 20:15
  Just
• 20:16
  consciousness
• 20:17
  as
• 20:17
  non
• 20:17
  dual
• 20:18
  awareness.
• 20:18
  Non
• 20:19
  dual.
• 20:19
  No,
• 20:19
  it
• 20:19
  has
• 20:20
  also
• 20:21
  other
• 20:21
  dimensions,
• 20:22
  can
• 20:22
  be
• 20:22
  pure
• 20:23
  love,
• 20:23
  can
• 20:23
  be
• 20:24
  pure
• 20:25
  beingness,
• 20:26
  things
• 20:27
  like
• 20:27
  that.
• 20:27
  And
• 20:27
  I
• 20:28
  said.
• 20:28
  I
• 20:28
  said
• 20:29
  there
• 20:29
  might
• 20:29
  be
• 20:29
  more
• 20:30
  and
• 20:30
  five.
• 20:31
  I
• 20:31
  focus
• 20:32
  my
• 20:32
  experience,
• 20:33
  focus
• 20:33
  mostly
• 20:34
  in
• 20:34
  the
• 20:34
  five.
• 20:35
  What
• 20:36
  begins
• 20:36
  with
• 20:36
  this,
• 20:37
  which
• 20:37
  is,
• 20:37
  I
• 20:37
  think
• 20:38
  is
• 20:38
  a
• 20:38
  good
• 20:38
  one
• 20:39
  to
• 20:39
  start
• 20:39
  with.
• 20:40
  And
• 20:40
  exploring
• 20:41
  one
• 20:41
  dimension
• 20:42
  because
• 20:42
  it
• 20:43
  is
• 20:44
  the
• 20:44
  one
• 20:44
  we
• 20:45
  a
• 20:45
  human
• 20:45
  being
• 20:45
  in
• 20:46
  general,
• 20:47
  you
• 20:47
  know,
• 20:47
  they're
• 20:48
  not
• 20:48
  indoctrinated
• 20:49
  by
• 20:50
  some
• 20:51
  kind
• 20:51
  of
• 20:51
  a
• 20:51
  teaching
• 20:52
  that
• 20:52
  tells
• 20:53
  them
• 20:53
  you
• 20:53
  have
• 20:53
  to
• 20:53
  be
• 20:54
  to
• 20:54
  experience
• 20:55
  emptiness
• 20:56
  or
• 20:56
  awareness
• 20:56
  or
• 20:57
  this
• 20:57
  consciousness.
• 20:59
  Human
• 20:59
  beings,
• 20:59
  you
• 21:00
  know,
• 21:00
  they
• 21:01
  welcome
• 21:01
  love,
• 21:01
  they
• 21:01
  want
• 21:02
  love.
• 21:03
  And
• 21:03
  the
• 21:04
  difficulty
• 21:04
  with
• 21:04
  it
• 21:05
  is
• 21:05
  not
• 21:05
  what
• 21:06
  quality
• 21:06
  it
• 21:06
  is,
• 21:07
  but
• 21:08
  that
• 21:08
  it
• 21:09
  dissolves
• 21:10
  everything.
• 21:11
  It
• 21:11
  dissolves
• 21:11
  all
• 21:12
  restriction
• 21:13
  and
• 21:13
  dissolves
• 21:14
  all
• 21:15
  definitions
• 21:16
  of
• 21:16
  oneself.
• 21:17
  Projections.
• 21:18
  You
• 21:18
  also
• 21:18
  said
• 21:19
  it
• 21:19
  dissolves
• 21:19
  your
• 21:19
  projections.
• 21:21
  It
• 21:22
  was
• 21:22
  all
• 21:22
  your
• 21:23
  projection
• 21:23
  in
• 21:23
  the
• 21:24
  world.
• 21:24
  Yeah,
• 21:24
  because
• 21:24
  everything
• 21:25
  is
• 21:25
  not
• 21:25
  what
• 21:26
  we
• 21:26
  project,
• 21:27
  it
• 21:27
  says.
• 21:29
  But
• 21:29
  you
• 21:30
  know,
• 21:30
  I
• 21:30
  think
• 21:31
  the
• 21:31
  chapter
• 21:32
  brings
• 21:32
  out
• 21:32
  many
• 21:33
  of
• 21:33
  the
• 21:33
  challenges
• 21:34
  and
• 21:35
  obstacles
• 21:35
  that
• 21:36
  are
• 21:37
  in
• 21:37
  the
• 21:37
  way.
• 21:37
  The
• 21:37
  main
• 21:38
  one,
• 21:38
  of
• 21:38
  course,
• 21:39
  which
• 21:39
  is
• 21:39
  true
• 21:40
  about
• 21:40
  all
• 21:40
  the
• 21:40
  boundless
• 21:41
  dimension,
• 21:42
  true
• 21:42
  about
• 21:42
  nondevelopment
• 21:43
  in
• 21:44
  the
• 21:44
  sense
• 21:44
  of
• 21:44
  separateness.
• 21:46
  That
• 21:46
  being
• 21:46
  a
• 21:47
  human
• 21:47
  soul,
• 21:48
  you
• 21:48
  are
• 21:48
  a
• 21:48
  separate
• 21:49
  drop
• 21:50
  sort
• 21:50
  of.
• 21:50
  You're
• 21:51
  a
• 21:51
  separate
• 21:52
  entity.
• 21:53
  This
• 21:54
  dimension
• 21:55
  challenges
• 21:56
  that
• 21:56
  belief
• 21:57
  or
• 21:57
  identification
• 21:58
  was
• 21:58
  separate
• 21:59
  with
• 21:59
  entityhood.
• 22:00
  I
• 22:00
  call
• 22:00
  emptit.
• 22:02
  And
• 22:02
  this
• 22:03
  shows
• 22:03
  that
• 22:03
  although
• 22:04
  the
• 22:05
  soul
• 22:05
  is
• 22:06
  individual,
• 22:07
  is
• 22:08
  not
• 22:08
  separate
• 22:09
  from
• 22:09
  the
• 22:10
  rest
• 22:10
  of
• 22:10
  reality.
• 22:11
  And
• 22:11
  this
• 22:11
  dimension
• 22:12
  shows
• 22:12
  the
• 22:12
  lack
• 22:13
  of
• 22:13
  separateness,
• 22:13
  that
• 22:14
  we're
• 22:14
  all
• 22:15
  expression
• 22:16
  of
• 22:16
  the
• 22:16
  same
• 22:16
  thing.
• 22:17
  So
• 22:18
  we
• 22:18
  can
• 22:19
  experience
• 22:19
  the
• 22:19
  soul
• 22:20
  in
• 22:20
  this
• 22:20
  dimension,
• 22:21
  or
• 22:21
  the
• 22:21
  soul
• 22:22
  might
• 22:22
  be
• 22:23
  submerged
• 22:24
  in
• 22:24
  it,
• 22:25
  you
• 22:25
  know,
• 22:27
  and
• 22:27
  that's
• 22:27
  the
• 22:28
  different
• 22:29
  ways
• 22:29
  of
• 22:29
  experiencing
• 22:30
  it
• 22:30
  brings
• 22:30
  in
• 22:30
  a
• 22:31
  different
• 22:31
  way
• 22:31
  of
• 22:31
  experiencing
• 22:32
  it.
• 22:33
  Hamid,
• 22:33
  you
• 22:34
  mentioned
• 22:35
  that
• 22:36
  people
• 22:36
  can
• 22:36
  have
• 22:37
  this
• 22:37
  experience
• 22:38
  of
• 22:38
  love.
• 22:38
  You
• 22:39
  know,
• 22:39
  God
• 22:39
  is
• 22:39
  endless
• 22:39
  ocean,
• 22:40
  boundless
• 22:41
  ocean
• 22:41
  of
• 22:41
  love
• 22:41
  and
• 22:41
  light.
• 22:44
  But
• 22:45
  we
• 22:45
  lose
• 22:45
  the
• 22:46
  vision.
• 22:46
  Like
• 22:47
  the
• 22:47
  grail
• 22:47
  castle.
• 22:47
  You
• 22:48
  know,
• 22:48
  the
• 22:48
  young
• 22:48
  Parsifal
• 22:49
  finds
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  castle.
• 22:49
  Then
• 22:49
  he
• 22:50
  loses
• 22:50
  a
• 22:50
  vision
• 22:50
  and
• 22:50
  goes
• 22:51
  throughout
• 22:51
  his
• 22:51
  life
• 22:51
  searching
• 22:52
  to
• 22:52
  find
• 22:52
  the
• 22:52
  castle
• 22:53
  again.
• 22:54
  And
• 22:54
  you
• 22:55
  talk
• 22:55
  about
• 22:55
  all
• 22:55
  our
• 22:56
  efforts
• 22:56
  to
• 22:57
  try
• 22:58
  to
• 22:58
  get
• 22:58
  back
• 22:58
  to
• 22:58
  that
• 22:59
  boundless
• 23:00
  dimension.
• 23:01
  Can
• 23:02
  often
• 23:02
  just
• 23:02
  reinforce
• 23:04
  the
• 23:04
  boundaries.
• 23:06
  And
• 23:06
  ultimately,
• 23:07
  it's
• 23:07
  when
• 23:07
  we
• 23:08
  surrender
• 23:10
  or
• 23:10
  when
• 23:10
  we're
• 23:11
  ready
• 23:11
  for
• 23:11
  it
• 23:12
  that
• 23:12
  the
• 23:12
  will
• 23:13
  of
• 23:13
  true
• 23:13
  nature
• 23:13
  itself
• 23:14
  is
• 23:15
  what
• 23:15
  does
• 23:16
  it.
• 23:17
  Is
• 23:17
  that
• 23:17
  accurate
• 23:18
  or
• 23:18
  somewhat
• 23:19
  in
• 23:19
  the
• 23:19
  neighborhood?
• 23:20
  It
• 23:20
  is,
• 23:21
  yeah.
• 23:22
  We
• 23:22
  cannot
• 23:22
  make
• 23:23
  it
• 23:23
  happen.
• 23:24
  It
• 23:25
  is
• 23:25
  an
• 23:25
  emergence.
• 23:26
  It
• 23:26
  is
• 23:27
  revelation.
• 23:29
  Like
• 23:29
  basically
• 23:30
  the
• 23:32
  essential
• 23:32
  presence
• 23:33
  reveal
• 23:33
  itself
• 23:34
  to
• 23:34
  be
• 23:35
  unbounded.
• 23:37
  That
• 23:37
  has
• 23:37
  no
• 23:38
  edges,
• 23:38
  no
• 23:39
  boundaries.
• 23:39
  Because
• 23:40
  when
• 23:40
  you
• 23:40
  think
• 23:41
  about
• 23:41
  it,
• 23:41
  even
• 23:41
  when
• 23:42
  we
• 23:42
  experience
• 23:42
  a
• 23:42
  presence
• 23:43
  in
• 23:43
  the
• 23:43
  body,
• 23:44
  if
• 23:44
  you
• 23:44
  recognize
• 23:44
  it
• 23:45
  is
• 23:45
  not
• 23:45
  physical,
• 23:47
  why
• 23:47
  will
• 23:48
  the
• 23:48
  physical
• 23:49
  bond
• 23:49
  it?
• 23:50
  Why
• 23:50
  will
• 23:50
  the
• 23:51
  physical
• 23:51
  limit
• 23:51
  it?
• 23:52
  Because
• 23:53
  not
• 23:53
  physical,
• 23:54
  deeper
• 23:54
  than
• 23:54
  the
• 23:55
  physical.
• 23:55
  So
• 23:56
  it's
• 23:56
  only
• 23:57
  because
• 23:58
  part
• 23:59
  of
• 23:59
  the
• 23:59
  ego
• 24:00
  structure
• 24:00
  is
• 24:01
  a
• 24:01
  sense
• 24:01
  of
• 24:01
  being
• 24:02
  a
• 24:02
  bonded
• 24:03
  entity,
• 24:04
  you
• 24:04
  know,
• 24:04
  a
• 24:05
  separate
• 24:05
  entity
• 24:06
  with
• 24:06
  shape
• 24:06
  and
• 24:07
  size
• 24:07
  and
• 24:08
  all
• 24:08
  that,
• 24:08
  that
• 24:09
  we
• 24:09
  experience
• 24:10
  the
• 24:10
  presence
• 24:10
  as
• 24:11
  bonded
• 24:12
  and
• 24:12
  basically
• 24:12
  dissolve
• 24:13
  those
• 24:13
  boundaries.
• 24:14
  And
• 24:14
  that
• 24:15
  is
• 24:15
  the
• 24:15
  first
• 24:16
  challenge.
• 24:17
  Because
• 24:17
  many
• 24:18
  people
• 24:19
  don't
• 24:19
  want
• 24:20
  to
• 24:20
  lose
• 24:20
  those
• 24:20
  boundaries.
• 24:21
  They
• 24:21
  lose
• 24:21
  their
• 24:21
  definition
• 24:22
  of
• 24:22
  themselves.
• 24:23
  And
• 24:24
  that
• 24:24
  is
• 24:24
  scary.
• 24:25
  Can
• 24:25
  bring
• 24:25
  in
• 24:25
  terror
• 24:26
  and
• 24:26
  fear
• 24:27
  and
• 24:28
  trembling
• 24:28
  and
• 24:29
  all
• 24:29
  kind
• 24:29
  of
• 24:29
  things.
• 24:30
  Or
• 24:30
  on
• 24:31
  the
• 24:31
  other
• 24:31
  hand,
• 24:31
  they
• 24:31
  may
• 24:32
  want
• 24:32
  to
• 24:32
  come
• 24:32
  back,
• 24:33
  they
• 24:33
  may
• 24:33
  not
• 24:33
  want
• 24:34
  to
• 24:34
  come
• 24:34
  back
• 24:34
  and
• 24:34
  be
• 24:34
  themselves
• 24:35
  again.
• 24:35
  Once
• 24:36
  you've
• 24:36
  experienced
• 24:36
  this,
• 24:36
  why
• 24:37
  would
• 24:37
  you
• 24:37
  want
• 24:37
  to
• 24:37
  go
• 24:37
  back
• 24:37
  and
• 24:38
  be,
• 24:38
  you
• 24:39
  know,
• 24:39
  me
• 24:39
  or
• 24:39
  John
• 24:40
  or
• 24:40
  Roger?
• 24:41
  Well,
• 24:41
  it's
• 24:41
  true.
• 24:42
  When
• 24:42
  you
• 24:42
  are
• 24:43
  fully
• 24:43
  in
• 24:43
  the
• 24:43
  experience,
• 24:44
  you
• 24:44
  feel
• 24:44
  like,
• 24:44
  that's
• 24:45
  wonderful.
• 24:45
  Why
• 24:46
  be
• 24:46
  anything
• 24:46
  else?
• 24:47
  But
• 24:48
  the
• 24:49
  movement
• 24:50
  towards
• 24:51
  separateness
• 24:52
  is
• 24:52
  natural
• 24:53
  and
• 24:53
  healing
• 24:54
  to
• 24:55
  the
• 24:55
  soul
• 24:55
  has
• 24:55
  been
• 24:56
  imprinted
• 24:56
  in
• 24:56
  it.
• 24:57
  It's
• 24:57
  not
• 24:58
  like
• 24:58
  consciously
• 24:58
  you
• 24:59
  feel
• 24:59
  you
• 24:59
  want
• 24:59
  to
• 24:59
  be
• 25:00
  separate.
• 25:00
  You
• 25:00
  can't
• 25:01
  help
• 25:01
  but
• 25:02
  the
• 25:02
  simpleness
• 25:03
  comes
• 25:03
  out
• 25:03
  because
• 25:03
  there's
• 25:04
  a
• 25:04
  structure
• 25:05
  imprinted
• 25:05
  in
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  soul
• 25:06
  from
• 25:06
  years
• 25:07
  and
• 25:07
  years
• 25:07
  of
• 25:07
  experience.
• 25:09
  This
• 25:09
  individual,
• 25:10
  human,
• 25:11
  individual,
• 25:11
  mean
• 25:12
  bounded
• 25:13
  by
• 25:13
  the
• 25:13
  body,
• 25:13
  the
• 25:14
  shape
• 25:14
  of
• 25:14
  the
• 25:14
  Body,
• 25:14
  the
• 25:15
  size
• 25:15
  of
• 25:15
  the
• 25:15
  body.
• 25:17
  So
• 25:17
  that
• 25:17
  is.
• 25:18
  So
• 25:18
  it's
• 25:18
  not
• 25:19
  a
• 25:19
  choice.
• 25:19
  It's
• 25:20
  not
• 25:20
  like
• 25:20
  I
• 25:21
  don't.
• 25:21
  You
• 25:21
  might
• 25:21
  feel
• 25:22
  you
• 25:22
  don't
• 25:22
  want
• 25:22
  it
• 25:22
  to
• 25:23
  come,
• 25:23
  but
• 25:23
  will
• 25:23
  come
• 25:23
  anyway.
• 25:26
  Ain't
• 25:26
  that
• 25:26
  the
• 25:26
  truth?
• 25:27
  Yeah.
• 25:27
  Yeah.
• 25:28
  It's
• 25:28
  not
• 25:28
  about
• 25:29
  why
• 25:29
  is
• 25:29
  it
• 25:30
  that
• 25:30
  I
• 25:30
  have
• 25:30
  this
• 25:30
  boundary
• 25:31
  and
• 25:31
  that
• 25:31
  brings
• 25:32
  in
• 25:32
  a
• 25:32
  whole
• 25:33
  understanding
• 25:33
  what
• 25:34
  is
• 25:34
  ego,
• 25:34
  what
• 25:34
  I
• 25:35
  call
• 25:35
  ego,
• 25:35
  boundaries,
• 25:37
  egonimitic
• 25:37
  boundary
• 25:38
  that
• 25:38
  give
• 25:38
  us
• 25:39
  size
• 25:39
  and
• 25:39
  shape
• 25:39
  and
• 25:41
  that.
• 25:41
  Because
• 25:42
  that's
• 25:42
  a
• 25:42
  hard
• 25:42
  history,
• 25:44
  the
• 25:45
  whole
• 25:45
  imprinting
• 25:46
  and
• 25:46
  conditioning.
• 25:47
  And
• 25:48
  of
• 25:48
  course,
• 25:48
  everybody
• 25:49
  believes
• 25:49
  it.
• 25:50
  All
• 25:50
  humanity
• 25:51
  believes
• 25:51
  it.
• 25:51
  So
• 25:52
  it
• 25:52
  is
• 25:52
  supported
• 25:53
  by
• 25:53
  everybody
• 25:53
  else.
• 25:55
  If
• 25:55
  you
• 25:55
  tell
• 25:55
  your
• 25:56
  family
• 25:56
  and
• 25:56
  friends,
• 25:57
  well,
• 25:57
  I'm
• 25:57
  not
• 25:57
  an
• 25:58
  individual.
• 25:58
  I'm
• 25:59
  everywhere,
• 25:59
  they'll
• 26:00
  think,
• 26:00
  what
• 26:00
  the
• 26:00
  hell
• 26:00
  are
• 26:01
  you
• 26:01
  talking
• 26:01
  about?
• 26:01
  You
• 26:02
  know,
• 26:02
  what
• 26:02
  happened?
• 26:04
  So
• 26:04
  it's
• 26:04
  not
• 26:04
  a
• 26:04
  matter
• 26:04
  of
• 26:05
  what
• 26:05
  we
• 26:05
  wish
• 26:05
  when
• 26:06
  we
• 26:06
  are
• 26:06
  in
• 26:06
  that
• 26:06
  experience.
• 26:07
  Of
• 26:07
  course,
• 26:08
  you
• 26:08
  don't
• 26:08
  want
• 26:09
  to
• 26:09
  be
• 26:09
  anything
• 26:09
  else.
• 26:10
  It
• 26:10
  feels
• 26:10
  wonderful
• 26:11
  and
• 26:11
  natural
• 26:12
  and
• 26:12
  relaxed
• 26:13
  and
• 26:13
  easy
• 26:13
  and
• 26:14
  contented
• 26:14
  and
• 26:17
  full
• 26:17
  of
• 26:17
  goodness
• 26:18
  and
• 26:19
  satisfaction
• 26:21
  and
• 26:21
  pleasure.
• 26:22
  And
• 26:22
  so,
• 26:22
  of
• 26:22
  course.
• 26:23
  But
• 26:23
  the
• 26:24
  issues
• 26:24
  arise
• 26:25
  anyway.
• 26:26
  And
• 26:26
  amid
• 26:27
  you
• 26:27
  point
• 26:28
  out
• 26:28
  that
• 26:29
  actually
• 26:29
  this
• 26:30
  experience
• 26:30
  of
• 26:31
  boundless
• 26:31
  love,
• 26:32
  of
• 26:33
  loving
• 26:33
  light,
• 26:34
  can
• 26:34
  actually
• 26:35
  highlight
• 26:36
  the
• 26:37
  barriers
• 26:37
  and
• 26:38
  blocks
• 26:39
  to
• 26:39
  it.
• 26:39
  And
• 26:39
  it
• 26:40
  seems
• 26:40
  as
• 26:40
  a
• 26:40
  general
• 26:41
  principle.
• 26:41
  So
• 26:41
  let
• 26:42
  me
• 26:42
  lay
• 26:43
  out
• 26:43
  the
• 26:43
  general
• 26:43
  principle
• 26:44
  I
• 26:44
  see
• 26:44
  you
• 26:44
  speaking
• 26:45
  to.
• 26:45
  And
• 26:45
  then
• 26:46
  the
• 26:46
  specific
• 26:47
  one.
• 26:47
  The
• 26:47
  general
• 26:47
  principle
• 26:48
  seems
• 26:48
  to
• 26:48
  be
• 26:48
  that
• 26:49
  when
• 26:49
  one
• 26:49
  either
• 26:49
  tries
• 26:50
  to
• 26:50
  cultivate
• 26:51
  a
• 26:51
  particular
• 26:51
  quality,
• 26:52
  such
• 26:52
  as
• 26:52
  love,
• 26:53
  or
• 26:54
  when
• 26:55
  it
• 26:55
  emerges
• 26:55
  spontaneously,
• 26:57
  there
• 26:57
  is
• 26:58
  often
• 26:58
  the
• 26:58
  upwelling
• 26:59
  of
• 27:00
  the
• 27:00
  blocks
• 27:00
  and
• 27:00
  barriers
• 27:01
  to
• 27:01
  it.
• 27:02
  And
• 27:03
  one
• 27:03
  faces
• 27:03
  those.
• 27:04
  And
• 27:04
  you
• 27:04
  talk
• 27:05
  about
• 27:05
  what
• 27:06
  John
• 27:06
  was
• 27:06
  alluding
• 27:07
  to,
• 27:07
  that
• 27:08
  as
• 27:08
  the
• 27:08
  soul
• 27:09
  becomes
• 27:09
  aware
• 27:10
  of
• 27:10
  its
• 27:11
  boundless
• 27:11
  nature
• 27:12
  and
• 27:12
  of
• 27:12
  this
• 27:12
  pure
• 27:13
  love,
• 27:13
  it
• 27:14
  begins
• 27:14
  to
• 27:14
  feel
• 27:15
  even
• 27:15
  more
• 27:15
  constricted
• 27:16
  by
• 27:16
  comparison.
• 27:18
  And
• 27:19
  then,
• 27:19
  as
• 27:19
  John
• 27:20
  said,
• 27:20
  desperately
• 27:21
  tries
• 27:22
  to
• 27:22
  overcome
• 27:22
  this
• 27:23
  feeling
• 27:23
  of
• 27:23
  constriction
• 27:24
  and
• 27:24
  separation,
• 27:25
  but
• 27:25
  only
• 27:26
  digs
• 27:26
  itself
• 27:27
  deeper
• 27:27
  into
• 27:28
  it.
• 27:28
  And
• 27:29
  you
• 27:29
  make
• 27:29
  the
• 27:29
  really
• 27:30
  crucial
• 27:30
  point
• 27:31
  that
• 27:31
  this
• 27:31
  existential
• 27:33
  sense
• 27:33
  of
• 27:34
  needing
• 27:34
  to
• 27:35
  escape,
• 27:35
  the
• 27:35
  sense
• 27:36
  of
• 27:36
  separation
• 27:36
  and
• 27:37
  boundedness
• 27:38
  exacerbates
• 27:39
  the
• 27:39
  issue
• 27:39
  and
• 27:40
  requires
• 27:41
  this
• 27:41
  profound
• 27:42
  letting
• 27:42
  go.
• 27:43
  That
• 27:43
  seems
• 27:44
  a
• 27:44
  really
• 27:45
  crucial
• 27:45
  point.
• 27:47
  Yeah,
• 27:48
  very
• 27:48
  true,
• 27:48
  Roger.
• 27:49
  I
• 27:49
  mean,
• 27:49
  that's
• 27:49
  what
• 27:49
  happens
• 27:50
  with
• 27:50
  everybody.
• 27:51
  It's
• 27:52
  like,
• 27:52
  you
• 27:53
  know,
• 27:53
  some
• 27:54
  people
• 27:54
  talk
• 27:55
  about
• 27:56
  their
• 27:56
  experience
• 27:57
  as
• 27:57
  if
• 27:58
  this
• 27:58
  happens.
• 27:58
  It
• 27:59
  dissolves
• 27:59
  all
• 28:00
  the
• 28:00
  barriers
• 28:01
  just
• 28:01
  by
• 28:02
  having
• 28:02
  the
• 28:02
  experience.
• 28:04
  It's
• 28:05
  not
• 28:05
  true.
• 28:06
  It's
• 28:06
  not
• 28:07
  my
• 28:07
  experience.
• 28:07
  Not
• 28:08
  the
• 28:08
  experience
• 28:08
  of
• 28:08
  all
• 28:09
  the
• 28:09
  people
• 28:09
  I
• 28:09
  work
• 28:10
  with.
• 28:10
  It's
• 28:11
  not
• 28:11
  the
• 28:11
  experience
• 28:11
  of
• 28:12
  the
• 28:12
  actual
• 28:12
  real
• 28:13
  tradition,
• 28:15
  you
• 28:15
  know,
• 28:16
  so.
• 28:17
  So
• 28:17
  those
• 28:17
  people
• 28:18
  who
• 28:18
  call
• 28:19
  themselves
• 28:19
  non
• 28:19
  deva
• 28:20
  teacher
• 28:20
  or
• 28:20
  whatever
• 28:20
  and
• 28:21
  say,
• 28:21
  oh,
• 28:21
  I
• 28:21
  had
• 28:21
  the
• 28:21
  experience
• 28:22
  everything,
• 28:22
  and
• 28:23
  they're
• 28:23
  still
• 28:23
  an
• 28:24
  ego,
• 28:24
  the
• 28:24
  way
• 28:24
  they're
• 28:25
  talking
• 28:25
  is
• 28:25
  an
• 28:25
  ego
• 28:26
  talking
• 28:26
  actually,
• 28:28
  you
• 28:28
  know,
• 28:29
  so
• 28:30
  yes,
• 28:30
  we
• 28:30
  need.
• 28:31
  And
• 28:31
  that
• 28:31
  is.
• 28:32
  And.
• 28:32
  But
• 28:32
  there
• 28:32
  are
• 28:33
  many
• 28:33
  ways
• 28:33
  of
• 28:34
  working
• 28:34
  with
• 28:34
  the
• 28:34
  barriers.
• 28:35
  Different
• 28:36
  teachings
• 28:36
  have
• 28:37
  developed,
• 28:37
  different
• 28:38
  things.
• 28:38
  Like
• 28:38
  many
• 28:39
  teachings
• 28:39
  are
• 28:40
  based
• 28:40
  on
• 28:40
  love.
• 28:41
  You
• 28:41
  know,
• 28:41
  they
• 28:41
  talk
• 28:42
  about
• 28:42
  surrender
• 28:43
  and
• 28:43
  prayer
• 28:44
  and
• 28:44
  surrender
• 28:44
  and
• 28:45
  letting
• 28:45
  go
• 28:46
  and
• 28:46
  all
• 28:46
  of
• 28:46
  that.
• 28:47
  But
• 28:47
  you
• 28:48
  see.
• 28:48
  But
• 28:49
  surrender,
• 28:49
  even
• 28:50
  you
• 28:50
  recognize
• 28:50
  yourself
• 28:51
  as
• 28:51
  an
• 28:52
  individual,
• 28:53
  somebody
• 28:54
  who
• 28:54
  bound
• 28:55
  and
• 28:56
  contracted.
• 28:57
  And
• 28:57
  then
• 28:58
  at
• 28:58
  some
• 28:58
  point
• 28:58
  there
• 28:59
  is
• 28:59
  a
• 28:59
  movement
• 29:00
  towards
• 29:00
  surrender.
• 29:01
  But
• 29:01
  that,
• 29:02
  you
• 29:02
  know,
• 29:03
  that
• 29:03
  one
• 29:03
  path,
• 29:04
  the
• 29:04
  devotional
• 29:05
  paths
• 29:05
  are
• 29:05
  like
• 29:05
  that.
• 29:06
  And
• 29:06
  they
• 29:06
  do
• 29:06
  practices,
• 29:07
  chanting
• 29:08
  and
• 29:08
  prayers
• 29:08
  and
• 29:09
  this
• 29:09
  and
• 29:09
  that
• 29:09
  to
• 29:09
  help
• 29:10
  with
• 29:10
  that.
• 29:11
  The
• 29:11
  method
• 29:11
  of
• 29:12
  this
• 29:12
  teaching
• 29:12
  is.
• 29:13
  Continues
• 29:13
  to
• 29:14
  be
• 29:14
  inquiry.
• 29:15
  We
• 29:15
  inquire
• 29:16
  into
• 29:16
  those
• 29:16
  obstacles
• 29:18
  to
• 29:18
  understand
• 29:18
  them.
• 29:20
  And
• 29:20
  then
• 29:21
  so
• 29:21
  the
• 29:21
  separateness,
• 29:23
  we
• 29:23
  inquire
• 29:23
  into
• 29:24
  it,
• 29:24
  we
• 29:24
  realize
• 29:25
  it
• 29:25
  is
• 29:25
  actually
• 29:26
  like
• 29:27
  a
• 29:27
  boundary
• 29:28
  made
• 29:28
  out.
• 29:30
  A
• 29:30
  boundary,
• 29:31
  rigid
• 29:32
  boundary
• 29:32
  that
• 29:33
  has
• 29:33
  always
• 29:33
  been
• 29:34
  there
• 29:34
  for
• 29:34
  all
• 29:35
  the
• 29:35
  years.
• 29:36
  It's
• 29:36
  usually
• 29:36
  unconscious.
• 29:38
  Now
• 29:38
  it
• 29:39
  becomes
• 29:39
  conscious,
• 29:40
  an
• 29:40
  actual
• 29:41
  boundary
• 29:41
  that
• 29:42
  feels
• 29:42
  hardened,
• 29:43
  that
• 29:43
  feels
• 29:43
  sort
• 29:44
  of
• 29:44
  unchanging.
• 29:46
  And
• 29:46
  usually
• 29:47
  you
• 29:47
  have
• 29:47
  the
• 29:47
  shape
• 29:47
  of
• 29:47
  the
• 29:48
  body
• 29:48
  or
• 29:48
  the
• 29:48
  size
• 29:48
  of
• 29:49
  the
• 29:49
  body,
• 29:50
  because
• 29:50
  the
• 29:50
  body,
• 29:51
  we
• 29:51
  identify
• 29:52
  with
• 29:52
  the
• 29:52
  body
• 29:52
  for
• 29:52
  such
• 29:53
  a
• 29:53
  long
• 29:53
  time
• 29:54
  that
• 29:54
  identification
• 29:55
  leaves
• 29:56
  a
• 29:56
  deep,
• 29:56
  strong
• 29:57
  imprint
• 29:58
  in
• 29:58
  the
• 29:58
  soul
• 29:59
  and
• 29:59
  the
• 29:59
  consciousness.
• 30:00
  So
• 30:00
  the
• 30:00
  consciousness
• 30:01
  can't
• 30:01
  just
• 30:01
  say,
• 30:02
  I
• 30:02
  want
• 30:02
  to
• 30:03
  drop
• 30:03
  it,
• 30:04
  you
• 30:04
  know,
• 30:04
  it
• 30:05
  need
• 30:05
  to.
• 30:06
  So
• 30:07
  the
• 30:08
  inquiry
• 30:09
  help
• 30:09
  us
• 30:09
  understand
• 30:10
  it
• 30:10
  and
• 30:11
  how
• 30:11
  it
• 30:11
  happened.
• 30:12
  Understand
• 30:12
  that
• 30:13
  it
• 30:13
  is
• 30:14
  a
• 30:14
  boundary
• 30:15
  around
• 30:16
  the
• 30:16
  soul,
• 30:16
  around
• 30:17
  our
• 30:18
  consciousness
• 30:19
  that
• 30:19
  defines
• 30:20
  us.
• 30:20
  All
• 30:21
  this
• 30:21
  time
• 30:21
  had
• 30:22
  defined
• 30:22
  who
• 30:22
  and
• 30:23
  what
• 30:23
  we
• 30:23
  are
• 30:23
  as
• 30:23
  an
• 30:23
  individual.
• 30:25
  So
• 30:25
  I'm
• 30:26
  recognizing
• 30:26
  what
• 30:27
  are
• 30:27
  the
• 30:27
  fear
• 30:27
  of
• 30:27
  letting
• 30:28
  go
• 30:28
  that,
• 30:30
  you
• 30:30
  know,
• 30:30
  you
• 30:30
  have
• 30:30
  to
• 30:30
  see
• 30:31
  what
• 30:31
  are
• 30:31
  the
• 30:31
  fear.
• 30:31
  What
• 30:32
  are
• 30:32
  the
• 30:32
  attachments?
• 30:33
  Attachment
• 30:33
  to
• 30:33
  it?
• 30:34
  Because
• 30:34
  this
• 30:34
  is
• 30:34
  my
• 30:34
  definition
• 30:35
  that
• 30:35
  who
• 30:36
  I
• 30:36
  am,
• 30:36
  if
• 30:36
  I'm
• 30:37
  that's
• 30:37
  gone,
• 30:37
  that
• 30:38
  I
• 30:38
  am
• 30:38
  gone.
• 30:39
  Right.
• 30:40
  And
• 30:41
  even
• 30:41
  though
• 30:41
  people
• 30:42
  love
• 30:42
  God,
• 30:43
  you
• 30:43
  know,
• 30:45
  they
• 30:45
  want
• 30:45
  to
• 30:45
  be
• 30:46
  there
• 30:46
  with
• 30:46
  God.
• 30:48
  And
• 30:48
  here
• 30:48
  you're
• 30:49
  not
• 30:49
  going
• 30:49
  to
• 30:49
  be
• 30:49
  there
• 30:49
  with
• 30:49
  God.
• 30:50
  It's
• 30:50
  just
• 30:50
  God.
• 30:52
  Oh,
• 30:52
  that's
• 30:53
  good.
• 30:55
  Yeah.
• 30:55
  So
• 30:55
  there's
• 30:56
  an
• 30:56
  attachment
• 30:57
  to
• 30:57
  the
• 30:57
  individual.
• 30:58
  And
• 30:59
  also,
• 30:59
  then
• 30:59
  there's
• 31:00
  also
• 31:00
  fear
• 31:00
  of
• 31:01
  losing
• 31:01
  it
• 31:01
  because
• 31:02
  like
• 31:02
  you'll
• 31:02
  be
• 31:03
  people
• 31:03
  afraid
• 31:04
  of
• 31:04
  being
• 31:04
  lost,
• 31:05
  being
• 31:05
  not
• 31:05
  knowing
• 31:07
  they
• 31:07
  can't
• 31:07
  operate.
• 31:08
  They're
• 31:08
  afraid
• 31:08
  they're
• 31:09
  not
• 31:09
  being
• 31:09
  able
• 31:09
  to
• 31:10
  function
• 31:11
  if
• 31:11
  they're
• 31:11
  not.
• 31:11
  Because
• 31:12
  the
• 31:12
  individual
• 31:13
  is
• 31:13
  what
• 31:13
  function?
• 31:14
  What
• 31:14
  does
• 31:14
  things
• 31:14
  take
• 31:15
  care
• 31:15
  of
• 31:15
  things?
• 31:16
  Well,
• 31:16
  if
• 31:17
  that's
• 31:17
  gone,
• 31:17
  who's
• 31:18
  going
• 31:18
  to
• 31:18
  drive
• 31:19
  the
• 31:19
  car?
• 31:20
  Right?
• 31:20
  Who's
• 31:21
  going
• 31:21
  to
• 31:22
  do
• 31:22
  things?
• 31:22
  Who's
• 31:23
  going
• 31:23
  to
• 31:23
  do
• 31:24
  the
• 31:24
  taxes
• 31:24
  and
• 31:25
  all
• 31:25
  this
• 31:25
  stuff?
• 31:26
  You
• 31:26
  know,
• 31:26
  so
• 31:27
  people
• 31:28
  have
• 31:28
  all
• 31:28
  these
• 31:28
  fear,
• 31:29
  which
• 31:29
  makes
• 31:29
  sense.
• 31:30
  People
• 31:30
  have
• 31:31
  those
• 31:31
  fear
• 31:31
  because
• 31:32
  you
• 31:32
  do
• 31:32
  need
• 31:32
  to
• 31:33
  do
• 31:33
  these
• 31:33
  things.
• 31:33
  That's
• 31:34
  because
• 31:34
  we
• 31:34
  still
• 31:35
  don't
• 31:35
  understand
• 31:35
  how
• 31:35
  these
• 31:36
  things
• 31:36
  happening
• 31:36
  from
• 31:37
  this
• 31:37
  dimension
• 31:39
  because
• 31:39
  we
• 31:39
  don't
• 31:39
  understand
• 31:40
  them.
• 31:40
  We
• 31:41
  have
• 31:41
  all
• 31:41
  these
• 31:41
  fears,
• 31:42
  all
• 31:42
  these.
• 31:43
  And
• 31:43
  also
• 31:44
  history
• 31:45
  comes
• 31:45
  in
• 31:46
  into
• 31:46
  it,
• 31:47
  like
• 31:48
  somebody
• 31:48
  who
• 31:48
  was
• 31:49
  traumatized
• 31:51
  or
• 31:51
  abused
• 31:51
  or
• 31:52
  whatever.
• 31:52
  Their
• 31:52
  identification
• 31:53
  with
• 31:54
  the
• 31:55
  victim,
• 31:56
  identification
• 31:57
  with
• 31:58
  the
• 31:58
  traumatized
• 31:59
  person
• 31:59
  or
• 31:59
  the
• 32:00
  abused
• 32:00
  person
• 32:01
  is
• 32:01
  so
• 32:01
  strong
• 32:02
  that
• 32:02
  they
• 32:03
  are
• 32:03
  the
• 32:03
  scared,
• 32:04
  hurt
• 32:05
  kid
• 32:05
  or
• 32:06
  individual.
• 32:08
  And
• 32:09
  they
• 32:10
  can't
• 32:10
  just
• 32:10
  let
• 32:10
  it
• 32:11
  go.
• 32:11
  It
• 32:11
  is
• 32:11
  imprinted
• 32:12
  in
• 32:12
  them.
• 32:13
  There
• 32:14
  is
• 32:14
  a
• 32:14
  very
• 32:15
  deep
• 32:15
  unconscious
• 32:16
  conviction
• 32:17
  that
• 32:17
  that
• 32:18
  is
• 32:18
  what
• 32:18
  I
• 32:18
  am.
• 32:19
  And
• 32:20
  that
• 32:20
  is
• 32:20
  exposed
• 32:21
  here.
• 32:22
  If
• 32:22
  you
• 32:23
  stay
• 32:23
  with
• 32:23
  it
• 32:23
  and
• 32:23
  understand
• 32:24
  this
• 32:25
  kind
• 32:26
  of
• 32:26
  dimension
• 32:26
  can
• 32:27
  expose
• 32:28
  all
• 32:28
  the
• 32:29
  parts
• 32:30
  of
• 32:30
  the
• 32:30
  ego
• 32:30
  structure,
• 32:31
  the.
• 32:32
  That
• 32:32
  makes
• 32:32
  us
• 32:32
  be
• 32:33
  a
• 32:33
  limited
• 32:34
  entity.
• 32:35
  Yeah.
• 32:35
  My
• 32:36
  understanding,
• 32:36
  Hamid,
• 32:36
  is.
• 32:37
  Is
• 32:38
  that
• 32:38
  when
• 32:38
  we're
• 32:38
  talking
• 32:39
  about
• 32:39
  the
• 32:39
  actualization
• 32:40
  that
• 32:40
  the
• 32:41
  boundaries
• 32:42
  are
• 32:42
  going
• 32:43
  to
• 32:43
  be
• 32:43
  there.
• 32:43
  So
• 32:44
  somebody
• 32:44
  can
• 32:44
  drive
• 32:44
  the
• 32:44
  car,
• 32:45
  but
• 32:45
  they
• 32:45
  have
• 32:46
  to
• 32:46
  be
• 32:46
  Horus.
• 32:47
  Boundaries,
• 32:47
  in
• 32:47
  other
• 32:48
  words,
• 32:48
  boundaries
• 32:48
  that
• 32:49
  connect
• 32:49
  us
• 32:49
  instead
• 32:50
  of
• 32:50
  separate.
• 32:51
  Separate
• 32:52
  us,
• 32:52
  that
• 32:53
  unifies.
• 32:53
  That
• 32:53
  helps
• 32:54
  us
• 32:54
  to
• 32:54
  be,
• 32:55
  you
• 32:56
  know,
• 32:56
  b.
• 32:57
  Hamid.
• 32:57
  And
• 32:59
  be
• 32:59
  an
• 32:59
  endless
• 32:59
  boundless
• 33:00
  ocean
• 33:00
  of
• 33:00
  light
• 33:00
  and
• 33:00
  love
• 33:01
  at
• 33:01
  the
• 33:01
  same
• 33:01
  time.
• 33:02
  Is
• 33:02
  that
• 33:03
  kind
• 33:03
  of
• 33:03
  where
• 33:03
  we're
• 33:03
  going
• 33:03
  with
• 33:04
  this
• 33:04
  or
• 33:04
  what
• 33:05
  happens?
• 33:05
  Not
• 33:06
  exactly.
• 33:07
  Boundaries
• 33:08
  can
• 33:08
  dissolve
• 33:09
  and
• 33:10
  there'll
• 33:10
  be
• 33:10
  no
• 33:10
  more
• 33:10
  boundaries.
• 33:11
  But
• 33:11
  the
• 33:12
  functioning
• 33:12
  can
• 33:13
  continue
• 33:13
  to
• 33:13
  happen.
• 33:14
  And
• 33:14
  there
• 33:14
  are
• 33:14
  different
• 33:14
  ways
• 33:15
  it
• 33:15
  happens
• 33:15
  from
• 33:16
  this
• 33:17
  dimension
• 33:17
  that
• 33:17
  people
• 33:18
  don't
• 33:18
  know
• 33:18
  how
• 33:19
  it
• 33:19
  works.
• 33:20
  And
• 33:21
  it's
• 33:21
  a
• 33:21
  discovery.
• 33:22
  First
• 33:22
  you
• 33:22
  discover
• 33:23
  the
• 33:23
  ocean
• 33:23
  of
• 33:23
  love.
• 33:24
  And
• 33:24
  the
• 33:24
  next
• 33:25
  discovery,
• 33:25
  the
• 33:25
  actualization,
• 33:26
  which
• 33:27
  means
• 33:27
  to
• 33:27
  discover
• 33:27
  how.
• 33:28
  How
• 33:28
  life
• 33:29
  is
• 33:29
  lived,
• 33:30
  who
• 33:31
  lives
• 33:31
  it,
• 33:31
  what
• 33:32
  you
• 33:32
  know.
• 33:32
  And
• 33:33
  there
• 33:33
  are
• 33:34
  many
• 33:34
  different
• 33:35
  ways
• 33:35
  that.
• 33:36
  That
• 33:36
  we
• 33:36
  can
• 33:36
  see
• 33:37
  it.
• 33:38
  So
• 33:38
  it's
• 33:38
  not
• 33:38
  about
• 33:39
  the
• 33:39
  boundaries
• 33:39
  can't
• 33:40
  dissolve.
• 33:41
  If
• 33:41
  somebody.
• 33:42
  People
• 33:43
  who
• 33:43
  haven't
• 33:43
  worked
• 33:44
  through
• 33:44
  their
• 33:44
  boundaries
• 33:45
  when
• 33:45
  it
• 33:45
  comes
• 33:45
  to
• 33:46
  functioning,
• 33:46
  the
• 33:46
  boundaries
• 33:47
  come
• 33:47
  back
• 33:47
  and
• 33:48
  then
• 33:48
  become
• 33:49
  a
• 33:49
  separate
• 33:49
  individual
• 33:50
  again
• 33:51
  to
• 33:51
  live
• 33:51
  their
• 33:51
  life.
• 33:52
  So
• 33:52
  they
• 33:52
  could
• 33:52
  experience
• 33:53
  this
• 33:53
  once
• 33:53
  in
• 33:53
  a
• 33:54
  while
• 33:54
  when
• 33:55
  they
• 33:55
  have
• 33:55
  to
• 33:55
  function,
• 33:56
  the
• 33:56
  doer
• 33:57
  comes
• 33:58
  on,
• 33:59
  comes
• 33:59
  back
• 34:00
  to
• 34:00
  take
• 34:01
  care
• 34:01
  of
• 34:01
  things.
• 34:02
  Unless
• 34:03
  you
• 34:03
  work
• 34:03
  on
• 34:03
  the
• 34:04
  boundaries
• 34:04
  on
• 34:04
  the
• 34:05
  doer
• 34:05
  and
• 34:05
  able
• 34:06
  to
• 34:06
  understand
• 34:06
  them
• 34:07
  and
• 34:07
  let
• 34:07
  them
• 34:07
  go.
• 34:09
  So
• 34:09
  as
• 34:09
  we
• 34:09
  understand
• 34:10
  them,
• 34:11
  we
• 34:11
  don't
• 34:11
  let
• 34:12
  them
• 34:12
  go.
• 34:12
  They
• 34:13
  just
• 34:13
  let
• 34:13
  go.
• 34:14
  They
• 34:14
  dissolve.
• 34:15
  And
• 34:15
  this
• 34:16
  loving
• 34:16
  light,
• 34:17
  this
• 34:18
  divine
• 34:18
  love
• 34:19
  helps
• 34:19
  dissolve
• 34:20
  them
• 34:21
  because
• 34:21
  its
• 34:22
  action
• 34:22
  is
• 34:22
  dissolving.
• 34:24
  But
• 34:24
  it
• 34:24
  is
• 34:25
  held
• 34:25
  back
• 34:25
  by
• 34:26
  a
• 34:26
  barrier
• 34:26
  of
• 34:27
  the
• 34:27
  deep
• 34:27
  conviction.
• 34:29
  But
• 34:29
  as
• 34:29
  we
• 34:29
  recognize
• 34:30
  and
• 34:30
  understand
• 34:31
  the
• 34:31
  conviction,
• 34:32
  we're
• 34:32
  not
• 34:33
  as
• 34:33
  solidly
• 34:33
  convinced.
• 34:34
  We
• 34:34
  recognize
• 34:34
  it's
• 34:35
  just
• 34:35
  a
• 34:35
  historical
• 34:36
  event,
• 34:36
  something
• 34:37
  developed
• 34:38
  in
• 34:38
  us,
• 34:38
  something
• 34:38
  that
• 34:39
  our
• 34:40
  mind
• 34:40
  believes
• 34:40
  in.
• 34:41
  The
• 34:41
  more
• 34:41
  we
• 34:41
  recognize
• 34:42
  it
• 34:42
  is
• 34:42
  just
• 34:42
  a
• 34:42
  belief,
• 34:43
  it
• 34:43
  is
• 34:43
  just
• 34:43
  an
• 34:44
  identification,
• 34:45
  the
• 34:45
  easier
• 34:46
  for
• 34:46
  us
• 34:47
  to
• 34:47
  let
• 34:48
  this
• 34:48
  love
• 34:49
  impact
• 34:49
  those
• 34:50
  things
• 34:50
  can't
• 34:50
  dissolve
• 34:51
  Them.
• 34:52
  But
• 34:52
  if
• 34:52
  we
• 34:52
  don't,
• 34:53
  if
• 34:53
  we
• 34:53
  believe.
• 34:53
  No,
• 34:53
  that's
• 34:54
  true.
• 34:54
  That
• 34:54
  is
• 34:54
  what
• 34:55
  I
• 34:55
  am.
• 34:56
  You
• 34:56
  know,
• 34:57
  love
• 34:58
  doesn't
• 34:58
  have
• 34:58
  that
• 34:59
  power
• 34:59
  to
• 34:59
  dissolve
• 34:59
  it.
• 35:00
  And
• 35:00
  I
• 35:01
  mean
• 35:01
  it
• 35:01
  seems
• 35:01
  like
• 35:01
  there
• 35:02
  are
• 35:02
  two.
• 35:02
  You
• 35:03
  talked
• 35:03
  about
• 35:03
  a
• 35:03
  fear
• 35:04
  coming
• 35:04
  up
• 35:04
  and
• 35:04
  it
• 35:05
  seems
• 35:05
  like
• 35:05
  there
• 35:05
  are
• 35:05
  two
• 35:05
  fundamental
• 35:06
  fears
• 35:06
  here.
• 35:07
  One
• 35:07
  is
• 35:07
  of
• 35:08
  the
• 35:08
  actual
• 35:08
  death
• 35:09
  of
• 35:09
  the
• 35:09
  ego,
• 35:09
  which
• 35:10
  is
• 35:10
  experienced
• 35:11
  as
• 35:11
  I'm
• 35:11
  dying.
• 35:13
  And
• 35:13
  the
• 35:13
  other
• 35:13
  is
• 35:14
  a.
• 35:15
  A
• 35:15
  fear
• 35:16
  which
• 35:17
  you
• 35:17
  were
• 35:17
  speaking
• 35:17
  to.
• 35:17
  A
• 35:18
  fear
• 35:18
  of
• 35:18
  the
• 35:18
  loss
• 35:18
  of
• 35:19
  autonomy.
• 35:19
  How
• 35:19
  I
• 35:20
  function,
• 35:21
  how
• 35:21
  will
• 35:21
  functioning
• 35:22
  occur.
• 35:23
  Yeah,
• 35:24
  there
• 35:24
  are
• 35:24
  many
• 35:24
  fears
• 35:25
  actually
• 35:25
  these
• 35:25
  are
• 35:25
  two,
• 35:26
  two
• 35:26
  main
• 35:26
  ones.
• 35:28
  The
• 35:28
  fear
• 35:28
  of
• 35:28
  loss
• 35:29
  of
• 35:29
  what
• 35:29
  I
• 35:29
  am
• 35:30
  and
• 35:30
  then
• 35:30
  the
• 35:31
  fear
• 35:31
  of
• 35:32
  losing
• 35:33
  life.
• 35:33
  How
• 35:33
  do
• 35:34
  I
• 35:34
  live,
• 35:35
  you
• 35:35
  know,
• 35:35
  how
• 35:36
  do
• 35:36
  I
• 35:36
  function?
• 35:37
  Who's
• 35:37
  going
• 35:37
  to
• 35:37
  take
• 35:38
  care
• 35:38
  of
• 35:38
  things?
• 35:39
  And
• 35:40
  there
• 35:40
  are
• 35:40
  other
• 35:41
  issues
• 35:41
  too
• 35:41
  that
• 35:42
  emerge.
• 35:42
  But
• 35:42
  these
• 35:43
  are
• 35:43
  important
• 35:43
  thing
• 35:44
  about
• 35:44
  the
• 35:44
  sense
• 35:45
  of
• 35:45
  separateness,
• 35:45
  sense
• 35:46
  of
• 35:46
  intelligence,
• 35:47
  which
• 35:47
  is
• 35:47
  challenged
• 35:48
  by
• 35:48
  this
• 35:48
  dimension
• 35:49
  and
• 35:49
  by
• 35:49
  all
• 35:50
  the
• 35:50
  boundless
• 35:50
  dimension.
• 35:52
  This
• 35:52
  issue
• 35:52
  re
• 35:53
  emerges
• 35:53
  in
• 35:54
  all
• 35:54
  the
• 35:54
  boundless
• 35:54
  dimension.
• 35:55
  Each
• 35:55
  dimension
• 35:56
  showing
• 35:56
  another
• 35:57
  layer
• 35:58
  of
• 35:58
  that
• 35:59
  identity.
• 35:59
  It's
• 35:59
  a
• 35:59
  very
• 36:00
  deep
• 36:00
  strong.
• 36:01
  Then
• 36:02
  the
• 36:02
  ego
• 36:03
  has
• 36:03
  two
• 36:04
  main
• 36:04
  strong
• 36:05
  identification.
• 36:06
  It
• 36:06
  has
• 36:07
  many
• 36:07
  identifications
• 36:08
  as
• 36:08
  you
• 36:08
  know,
• 36:08
  thousands
• 36:09
  of
• 36:10
  objuculations
• 36:11
  of
• 36:11
  images.
• 36:12
  There
• 36:13
  are
• 36:13
  two
• 36:13
  main
• 36:14
  central.
• 36:14
  One,
• 36:15
  the
• 36:16
  boundedness.
• 36:16
  The
• 36:17
  definition
• 36:18
  gives
• 36:18
  a
• 36:18
  size
• 36:19
  and
• 36:19
  shape
• 36:19
  and
• 36:20
  sense
• 36:20
  of
• 36:20
  entitled.
• 36:21
  And
• 36:21
  the
• 36:22
  other
• 36:22
  one
• 36:22
  is
• 36:22
  sense
• 36:23
  of
• 36:23
  entity,
• 36:23
  a
• 36:24
  sense
• 36:24
  of
• 36:24
  identity,
• 36:25
  feeling
• 36:27
  what
• 36:27
  I
• 36:27
  am
• 36:28
  self
• 36:28
  recognition
• 36:30
  of
• 36:30
  this
• 36:30
  entity.
• 36:31
  Here
• 36:31
  the
• 36:32
  boundary
• 36:32
  dimension
• 36:33
  basically
• 36:34
  challenges
• 36:34
  the
• 36:34
  separateness,
• 36:36
  a
• 36:37
  separating
• 36:37
  boundaries
• 36:38
  that
• 36:38
  gives
• 36:38
  us
• 36:38
  a
• 36:39
  sense
• 36:39
  of
• 36:39
  being
• 36:39
  an
• 36:39
  individual
• 36:41
  being,
• 36:41
  an
• 36:41
  autonomous
• 36:42
  human
• 36:42
  being
• 36:43
  of
• 36:43
  being
• 36:44
  a
• 36:44
  being.
• 36:44
  And.
• 36:46
  And
• 36:46
  that
• 36:46
  is
• 36:47
  why
• 36:47
  actually
• 36:48
  many
• 36:48
  of
• 36:48
  the
• 36:48
  non
• 36:49
  dual
• 36:49
  teachings
• 36:50
  take
• 36:50
  the
• 36:51
  view
• 36:51
  that
• 36:52
  being
• 36:52
  a
• 36:53
  non
• 36:53
  dual
• 36:53
  being,
• 36:54
  a
• 36:54
  separate
• 36:55
  being,
• 36:56
  an
• 36:56
  individual
• 36:57
  being
• 36:57
  is
• 36:57
  an
• 36:58
  illusion.
• 36:59
  Just
• 36:59
  Advaia
• 37:00
  Vedanta
• 37:00
  calls
• 37:01
  it
• 37:01
  a
• 37:01
  convenient
• 37:02
  fiction.
• 37:03
  A
• 37:04
  convenient
• 37:04
  fiction
• 37:05
  that
• 37:06
  the
• 37:06
  divine
• 37:06
  takes
• 37:07
  in
• 37:08
  order
• 37:08
  to
• 37:08
  experience
• 37:09
  things.
• 37:10
  Which
• 37:10
  I
• 37:10
  don't
• 37:11
  buy
• 37:11
  that
• 37:11
  view,
• 37:12
  but
• 37:12
  it
• 37:12
  is
• 37:13
  their
• 37:13
  view.
• 37:14
  Yeah,
• 37:14
  but
• 37:15
  you
• 37:15
  say
• 37:15
  that
• 37:15
  the
• 37:16
  individual
• 37:16
  is
• 37:17
  still
• 37:17
  is
• 37:17
  an
• 37:17
  essential
• 37:18
  part
• 37:18
  of
• 37:18
  true
• 37:19
  nature
• 37:20
  that
• 37:20
  can
• 37:21
  make
• 37:21
  its
• 37:21
  appearance
• 37:22
  as
• 37:22
  appropriate,
• 37:23
  but
• 37:23
  it's
• 37:24
  still
• 37:24
  there.
• 37:25
  Is
• 37:25
  that
• 37:25
  correct?
• 37:27
  But
• 37:27
  not
• 37:27
  as
• 37:27
  a
• 37:28
  separate.
• 37:29
  Yes,
• 37:29
  right.
• 37:29
  As
• 37:30
  connected.
• 37:30
  Individuality
• 37:32
  can
• 37:32
  appear
• 37:32
  in
• 37:33
  different
• 37:33
  ways
• 37:34
  and
• 37:34
  functioning
• 37:35
  can.
• 37:35
  That
• 37:35
  takes
• 37:36
  it
• 37:36
  to
• 37:36
  the
• 37:36
  whole
• 37:36
  other
• 37:38
  thing
• 37:38
  about
• 37:39
  besides
• 37:39
  recognizing
• 37:40
  what
• 37:40
  is
• 37:41
  divine
• 37:41
  law,
• 37:42
  what
• 37:42
  are
• 37:42
  its
• 37:42
  properties,
• 37:43
  what
• 37:43
  are
• 37:44
  its
• 37:44
  qualities
• 37:45
  and
• 37:45
  what
• 37:45
  it
• 37:46
  does.
• 37:46
  And
• 37:46
  all
• 37:46
  the
• 37:47
  richness
• 37:47
  and
• 37:48
  all
• 37:48
  the
• 37:49
  generosity
• 37:50
  and
• 37:50
  the
• 37:50
  flowingness
• 37:51
  and
• 37:52
  the
• 37:52
  surrender
• 37:52
  and
• 37:53
  the
• 37:53
  letting
• 37:53
  go
• 37:54
  and
• 37:55
  transparent
• 37:56
  all
• 37:56
  of
• 37:56
  these
• 37:56
  things
• 37:56
  it
• 37:57
  teaches
• 37:57
  you
• 37:57
  love
• 37:57
  thing
• 37:58
  about
• 37:58
  what
• 37:58
  it
• 37:59
  is.
• 37:59
  And
• 38:00
  the
• 38:00
  next
• 38:00
  thing
• 38:00
  it
• 38:01
  teaches
• 38:01
  you
• 38:02
  how
• 38:03
  life
• 38:04
  happens
• 38:04
  from
• 38:05
  that
• 38:05
  place.
• 38:06
  And
• 38:06
  there
• 38:07
  are
• 38:07
  different
• 38:07
  ways
• 38:08
  that
• 38:08
  can
• 38:08
  happen.
• 38:09
  One
• 38:09
  of
• 38:09
  them
• 38:10
  is
• 38:10
  that
• 38:10
  it
• 38:11
  can
• 38:11
  Manifest
• 38:13
  the
• 38:13
  individual
• 38:13
  soul,
• 38:14
  our
• 38:15
  individual
• 38:15
  soul,
• 38:16
  but
• 38:17
  not
• 38:17
  as
• 38:18
  something,
• 38:19
  an
• 38:19
  encased
• 38:20
  entity
• 38:21
  within
• 38:21
  the
• 38:22
  ocean.
• 38:23
  No,
• 38:23
  it's
• 38:23
  more
• 38:24
  like
• 38:24
  as
• 38:24
  a
• 38:24
  wave
• 38:24
  of
• 38:25
  the
• 38:25
  ocean
• 38:27
  or
• 38:27
  as
• 38:27
  a
• 38:27
  bubble
• 38:28
  in
• 38:28
  the
• 38:28
  ocean.
• 38:29
  So
• 38:29
  it's
• 38:29
  part
• 38:30
  of
• 38:30
  it,
• 38:31
  but.
• 38:32
  So
• 38:32
  the
• 38:32
  soul
• 38:33
  appears
• 38:34
  as
• 38:34
  a
• 38:34
  manifestation
• 38:35
  within
• 38:35
  the
• 38:36
  ocean,
• 38:36
  made
• 38:37
  out
• 38:37
  of
• 38:37
  the
• 38:37
  same
• 38:38
  quality
• 38:38
  of
• 38:38
  the
• 38:38
  ocean,
• 38:39
  but
• 38:41
  not
• 38:41
  separate
• 38:41
  from
• 38:42
  the
• 38:42
  ocean.
• 38:42
  And
• 38:43
  that
• 38:43
  way
• 38:44
  it
• 38:44
  can
• 38:44
  function
• 38:44
  in
• 38:45
  the
• 38:45
  world
• 38:45
  as
• 38:45
  an
• 38:46
  individual.
• 38:46
  It
• 38:46
  has
• 38:46
  all
• 38:47
  the
• 38:47
  capacities
• 38:48
  and
• 38:48
  the
• 38:49
  knowledge
• 38:49
  that
• 38:49
  the
• 38:49
  individual
• 38:50
  has
• 38:50
  had,
• 38:51
  but
• 38:51
  now
• 38:52
  not
• 38:53
  as
• 38:53
  a
• 38:53
  separate
• 38:53
  entity,
• 38:54
  but
• 38:55
  as
• 38:55
  an
• 38:56
  individual
• 38:56
  expression
• 38:57
  of
• 38:58
  this
• 38:58
  boundless
• 38:59
  love.
• 38:59
  Oh,
• 39:00
  that's
• 39:00
  very
• 39:00
  well
• 39:00
  said.
• 39:01
  Yes.
• 39:02
  See
• 39:02
  here,
• 39:02
  no
• 39:03
  separateness
• 39:04
  separating
• 39:05
  boundaries
• 39:06
  don't
• 39:06
  come
• 39:06
  back.
• 39:07
  The
• 39:07
  soul
• 39:07
  comes
• 39:07
  back.
• 39:08
  But
• 39:08
  that
• 39:09
  shows
• 39:09
  us
• 39:10
  the
• 39:10
  soul
• 39:11
  doesn't
• 39:11
  have
• 39:11
  to
• 39:11
  be
• 39:11
  separate.
• 39:12
  People
• 39:12
  believe
• 39:13
  if
• 39:13
  I'm
• 39:13
  a
• 39:13
  soul,
• 39:14
  I
• 39:14
  am
• 39:14
  separate
• 39:14
  from
• 39:14
  my
• 39:15
  own
• 39:15
  entity.
• 39:16
  Actually,
• 39:17
  this
• 39:17
  dimension
• 39:18
  shows
• 39:18
  us.
• 39:18
  No,
• 39:19
  that's
• 39:19
  not
• 39:19
  the
• 39:19
  case.
• 39:20
  The
• 39:20
  soul
• 39:20
  is
• 39:21
  an
• 39:21
  expression
• 39:21
  of
• 39:21
  true
• 39:22
  nature
• 39:22
  inseparable
• 39:23
  from
• 39:24
  it.
• 39:24
  And
• 39:25
  it
• 39:25
  appears
• 39:26
  as
• 39:26
  individual
• 39:27
  and
• 39:27
  it
• 39:28
  function
• 39:28
  as
• 39:28
  an
• 39:28
  individual.
• 39:29
  Because
• 39:30
  the
• 39:30
  true
• 39:30
  nature
• 39:31
  needs
• 39:31
  an
• 39:31
  individual
• 39:32
  to
• 39:32
  experience
• 39:32
  things,
• 39:33
  to
• 39:33
  function
• 39:33
  in
• 39:33
  life,
• 39:34
  like
• 39:35
  divine
• 39:35
  love.
• 39:35
  How
• 39:35
  is
• 39:35
  it
• 39:36
  going
• 39:36
  to
• 39:36
  live?
• 39:36
  It
• 39:36
  can't
• 39:37
  live
• 39:37
  without
• 39:37
  an
• 39:38
  individual
• 39:38
  doing
• 39:39
  things.
• 39:39
  That
• 39:39
  is
• 39:40
  one
• 39:40
  way,
• 39:40
  There
• 39:40
  are
• 39:40
  other
• 39:41
  ways.
• 39:41
  And
• 39:41
  amid
• 39:42
  it
• 39:42
  seems
• 39:42
  like
• 39:42
  at
• 39:43
  this
• 39:43
  stage
• 39:44
  there's
• 39:44
  a
• 39:45
  shift
• 39:45
  in
• 39:46
  the
• 39:46
  sense
• 39:46
  of
• 39:48
  doing
• 39:48
  that
• 39:49
  it
• 39:49
  feels
• 39:49
  like
• 39:50
  the
• 39:50
  sense
• 39:50
  of
• 39:51
  doing
• 39:51
  kind
• 39:51
  of
• 39:52
  also
• 39:52
  dissolves
• 39:53
  and
• 39:54
  life
• 39:55
  just
• 39:56
  somehow
• 39:56
  flows
• 39:57
  through
• 39:58
  and
• 39:58
  it
• 39:58
  feels,
• 39:59
  you
• 39:59
  know,
• 39:59
  for
• 40:00
  me,
• 40:00
  this
• 40:00
  is
• 40:00
  something
• 40:01
  I'm
• 40:01
  still
• 40:01
  trying
• 40:01
  to
• 40:03
  make
• 40:03
  sense
• 40:03
  of
• 40:03
  and
• 40:04
  live
• 40:04
  into.
• 40:05
  I'd
• 40:06
  love
• 40:06
  to
• 40:06
  hear
• 40:07
  you
• 40:07
  speak
• 40:07
  about
• 40:08
  this.
• 40:09
  Stay
• 40:10
  tuned
• 40:10
  for
• 40:10
  part
• 40:11
  two
• 40:11
  of
• 40:11
  this,
• 40:11
  our
• 40:12
  11th
• 40:12
  conversation
• 40:13
  with
• 40:13
  Hamid
• 40:13
  Ah
• 40:14
  Almas,
• 40:14
  as
• 40:14
  we
• 40:15
  continue
• 40:15
  to
• 40:15
  swim
• 40:16
  in
• 40:16
  this
• 40:16
  boundless
• 40:17
  ocean
• 40:17
  of
• 40:17
  love
• 40:18
  and
• 40:18
  life.
• 40:19
  Thank
• 40:19
  you
• 40:19
  very
• 40:19
  much
• 40:20
  for
• 40:20
  being
• 40:20
  a
• 40:20
  part
• 40:21
  of
• 40:21
  this
• 40:21
  conversation.
• 40:22
  We
• 40:22
  hope
• 40:22
  that
• 40:23
  you
• 40:23
  were
• 40:23
  moved,
• 40:23
  as
• 40:24
  we
• 40:24
  are
• 40:24
  moved,
• 40:25
  being
• 40:25
  part
• 40:25
  of
• 40:25
  it
• 40:25
  ourselves.
• 40:26
  We'd
• 40:27
  also
• 40:27
  like
• 40:27
  to
• 40:27
  say
• 40:27
  that
• 40:28
  this
• 40:28
  is
• 40:28
  being
• 40:28
  funded
• 40:29
  by
• 40:29
  Roger
• 40:29
  and
• 40:30
  myself.
• 40:30
  It
• 40:30
  comes
• 40:30
  out
• 40:30
  of
• 40:30
  our
• 40:31
  pockets.
• 40:31
  So
• 40:31
  if
• 40:31
  you
• 40:32
  would
• 40:32
  like
• 40:32
  to
• 40:32
  help
• 40:32
  us
• 40:33
  to.
• 40:33
  Mainly
• 40:34
  to
• 40:34
  get
• 40:34
  this
• 40:34
  podcast
• 40:35
  out
• 40:35
  to
• 40:35
  more
• 40:35
  people
• 40:36
  because
• 40:36
  the
• 40:36
  bigger
• 40:37
  audience
• 40:37
  have,
• 40:37
  which
• 40:37
  is
• 40:37
  steadily
• 40:38
  growing,
• 40:38
  but
• 40:38
  the
• 40:39
  more
• 40:39
  people
• 40:39
  we
• 40:39
  can
• 40:39
  reach
• 40:40
  and
• 40:40
  the
• 40:40
  more
• 40:40
  marketing
• 40:40
  we
• 40:41
  can
• 40:41
  do,
• 40:41
  the
• 40:41
  more
• 40:42
  positive
• 40:42
  effect
• 40:42
  we
• 40:43
  can
• 40:43
  have
• 40:43
  on
• 40:43
  the
• 40:43
  world.
• 40:44
  So
• 40:44
  we've
• 40:44
  done
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  a
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  couple
• 40:45
  of
• 40:45
  ways,
• 40:45
  but
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  we'd
• 40:45
  like
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  you
• 40:46
  to
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  buy
• 40:46
  us
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  a
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  cup
• 40:47
  of
• 40:47
  coffee.
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  Very
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  simple.
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  And
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  I
• 40:48
  do
• 40:49
  that
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  with
• 40:49
  podcasts
• 40:50
  that
• 40:50
  I
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  support
• 40:51
  and
• 40:51
  I
• 40:52
  find
• 40:52
  it's
• 40:52
  very
• 40:52
  satisfying.
• 40:53
  So
• 40:53
  thank
• 40:54
  you
• 40:54
  for
• 40:54
  your
• 40:54
  help,
• 40:54
  thank
• 40:55
  you
• 40:55
  for
• 40:55
  your
• 40:55
  presence
• 40:55
  and
• 40:56
  thank
• 40:56
  you
• 40:56
  for
• 40:56
  all
• 40:56
  you
• 40:57
  are
• 40:57
  and
• 40:57
  all
• 40:57
  you
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  do.
• 40:58
  We
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  love
• 40:58
  you.
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  It.