Latest / Match B2B Insights / Engaging the World
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- 0:00Welcome to Match B2B Insights, the podcast designed to bring fresh perspectives and actionable
- 0:07strategies to businesses navigating the complexities of B2B market.
- 0:11I am Benny Fluman, the CEO of Match B2B.
- 0:14Today, we're diving into a fascinating shift in the B2B landscape, the transformation of
- 0:19customer engagement.
- 0:21Business buyers are increasingly expecting seamless, personalized experiences akin to
- 0:25those in the B2C world.
- 0:28This evolving expectation is pushing companies to innovate and create more meaningful interactions.
- 0:33In this episode, we'll explore how leading companies like Monday.com and Wix are meeting
- 0:38these demands through customer co-creation and community building strategies.
- 0:43We'll also delve into the critical roles of mobile and omnichannel experiences, the
- 0:48strategic use of AI and chatbots, and the importance of data protection.
- 0:53Our discussion will highlight how building customer communities can drive advocacy and
- 0:58loyalty.
- 0:59At Match B2B, we believe great marketing starts with great insight, from smart data to loyal
- 1:04clients.
- 1:05With that philosophy in mind, our aim today is to deliver expert, data-driven insights
- 1:11that you can apply in your own business strategies.
- 1:14Now let's dive in as our experienced interviewer Brenda engages with me in a compelling discussion,
- 1:20bringing you practical insights for the future of B2B engagement.
- 1:23Alright everybody, welcome to another deep dive on Match B2B insights.
- 1:29I'm Brenda, and I'm here with our resident B2B expert, Benny Flumen.
- 1:33Today we're diving into something that's completely reshaping how businesses connect
- 1:37with their customers worldwide.
- 1:39Benny, what's got you excited about B2B customer engagement these days?
- 1:44Thanks Brenda.
- 1:45You know what's fascinating?
- 1:46The line between B2B and B2C expectations has basically disappeared.
- 1:50Business buyers today demand the same seamless, personalized experiences they get as consumers.
- 1:56We're talking about a complete mindset shift here.
- 1:58That's interesting, because I feel like for the longest time, B2B was this stuffy, formal
- 2:02world of lengthy sales cycles and boring presentations.
- 2:06You're saying that's changing?
- 2:08Absolutely changing.
- 2:09A recent McKinsey survey found that B2B customers are increasingly consumer-like in their purchasing
- 2:14behavior.
- 2:15And here's the kicker.
- 2:16They'll readily walk away from suppliers that don't meet their experience standards.
- 2:20It's not just about the product anymore, it's about the entire journey.
- 2:24Okay, so if businesses need to step up their game, where are we seeing the most innovation?
- 2:29Any particular regions or companies leading the charge?
- 2:32Great question!
- 2:33Israel's tech scene has been absolutely crushing it in this space.
- 2:37Take Monday.com for example.
- 2:39They've built this work management platform that's now used by over 225,000 customers
- 2:44across 200 plus industries and countries.
- 2:47But here's what makes them special.
- 2:49They've created this community where customers actually help co-create the product experience.
- 2:54Co-create?
- 2:55That sounds like they're basically turning their customers into partners.
- 2:58Exactly!
- 2:59Monday.com actively solicits customer input on features and offers this incredibly flexible,
- 3:04customizable platform.
- 3:06Each client feels like the solution is tailored specifically for them.
- 3:10The result?
- 3:11A 112% net dollar retention rate.
- 3:13Which means the average customer actually expands their relationship in spending over
- 3:17time.
- 3:18That's impressive.
- 3:19Are we seeing this partnership approach elsewhere?
- 3:22Oh, absolutely.
- 3:23Look at Wix.
- 3:24They've got over 280 million registered users in 190 countries.
- 3:29They created this whole ecosystem with developer marketplaces and online communities where
- 3:35users share tips and help each other.
- 3:38It's brilliant because it reduces their support load while building loyalty at the same time.
- 3:43So it's like they're creating these self-sustaining communities.
- 3:46But let's talk about something practical.
- 3:48With everyone glued to their phones these days, how important is mobile in B2B engagement?
- 3:54Mobile is absolutely critical now.
- 3:55Here's a stat that'll blow your mind.
- 3:58By 2021, around 40% of total B2B sales were happening exclusively through mobile apps.
- 4:04If your B2B experience isn't mobile friendly, you're missing a huge portion of customer
- 4:08engagement.
- 4:0940%?
- 4:11That seems high for B2B transactions.
- 4:13I know it sounds surprising, but think about it.
- 4:16Business buyers are people too.
- 4:17They're checking emails, reviewing proposals, and making decisions on their phones just
- 4:22like they do everything else.
- 4:24Wix's mobile app sees about 44,000 downloads per day because busy entrepreneurs want to
- 4:29manage their websites from anywhere.
- 4:31That makes perfect sense.
- 4:33Now I keep hearing about Omnichannel experiences.
- 4:36Is that just a buzzword or is there something real there?
- 4:38Oh, it's very real and absolutely essential.
- 4:41Get this.
- 4:42B2B customers now use an average of 10 different channels to interact with suppliers during
- 4:46their buying process.
- 4:48And 42% of decision makers use 11 or more distinct touch points along their journey.
- 4:5410 channels?
- 4:55What does that even look like in practice?
- 4:57Think about it.
- 4:58They might start with online research, attend a webinar, download a white paper, chat with
- 5:03support, have email exchanges, join a demo call, maybe even visit your office.
- 5:08The key is that over half of B2B buyers say they're likely to switch suppliers if they
- 5:13can't get a smooth, integrated experience across all these channels.
- 5:16So consistency is everything.
- 5:18If I start a conversation on chat and then call your sales team, they better know what
- 5:22we already discussed.
- 5:24Exactly.
- 5:25That's where companies like NiceLilteadeat come in.
- 5:27They've built platforms that manage millions of customer interactions daily.
- 5:31Voice, digital, AI chatbots, all on one unified system.
- 5:36When a customer contacts you through any channel, the full context travels with them.
- 5:40Speaking of context, let's talk about personalization.
- 5:44With customers all over the world, how do you tailor experiences without it becoming
- 5:48overwhelming?
- 5:49This is where it gets really interesting.
- 5:5172% of B2B customers expect a mostly or fully personalized experience.
- 5:56But here's the thing.
- 5:58Personalization in B2B goes way deeper than just inserting someone's name in an email.
- 6:03Lay it on me.
- 6:04What does real B2B personalization look like?
- 6:07It's happening on two levels.
- 6:08First, cultural personalization, language support, regional content, local business etiquette.
- 6:15Many Israeli SaaS companies ensure their interfaces are translated into multiple languages and
- 6:20adjust their marketing to different regions.
- 6:22And the second level?
- 6:24Business case personalization.
- 6:25This means tailoring the value proposition to each client's specific industry and needs.
- 6:30Monday.com is a perfect example again.
- 6:33A construction company might use it for field projects while a marketing agency tracks campaigns
- 6:38with it.
- 6:39Same platform, completely different configurations.
- 6:41That's smart.
- 6:42But all this data collection and personalization, how do companies maintain trust?
- 6:48I imagine security is a huge concern in B2B.
- 6:51You've hit on something crucial.
- 6:5294% of organizations believe their customers would refuse to buy from them if they didn't
- 6:57adequately protect customer data.
- 7:00In B2B, due diligence on security and privacy is now standard.
- 7:0583% of software buyers require security assessments before implementing new solutions.
- 7:10So data protection isn't just IT hygiene anymore.
- 7:13It's a make or break factor for customer relationships.
- 7:16Absolutely.
- 7:17Israeli companies with their strong cybersecurity background often turn data protection into
- 7:21a selling point.
- 7:22They'll have dedicated trust centers online detailing their encryption practices and
- 7:27compliance certifications.
- 7:29It becomes part of their value proposition.
- 7:31Now I want to shift gears and talk about something that's been exploding lately.
- 7:35AI and chatbots and customer service.
- 7:38Are businesses actually using these effectively?
- 7:41Or is it still mostly hype?
- 7:43The numbers are pretty compelling.
- 7:44By 2024, about 60% of B2B companies were already using chatbot software.
- 7:49The global chatbot market jumped from $2.5 billion in 2021 to over $19 billion in 2025.
- 7:55Wow, that's massive growth.
- 7:57But are customers actually happy with chatbots?
- 8:00Or do they just tolerate them?
- 8:01When done right, customers love them.
- 8:0388% of people had at least one conversation with a chatbot in the past year.
- 8:08In B2B, busy professionals appreciate instant responses.
- 8:12An IT manager troubleshooting at midnight can get immediate help instead of waiting hours
- 8:16for human support.
- 8:18I can see the appeal.
- 8:19What makes a good B2B chatbot versus a frustrating one?
- 8:22The key is that hybrid approach.
- 8:24AI handles what it's best at, then seamlessly hands off to humans for complex issues.
- 8:29The best implementations create a support ticket with conversation context so when a
- 8:33human agent steps in, they're already up to speed.
- 8:37Makes sense.
- 8:38Now, before we wrap up, I want to talk about something that match B2B sees a lot in our
- 8:42consulting work.
- 8:44The power of customer communities.
- 8:47How important is building advocacy?
- 8:49Community building has become absolutely strategic.
- 8:52Here's a stat that shows why 92% of B2B buyers are more likely to purchase after reading a
- 8:57trusted review or recommendation.
- 9:00When you nurture a community of advocates, you essentially have a volunteer sales force
- 9:04operating through genuine enthusiasm.
- 9:07And I imagine peer recommendations carry way more weight than sales pitches.
- 9:11Exactly right.
- 9:12Only 53% to 57% of B2B buyers rely on peer recommendations when making purchasing decisions.
- 9:18And get this, only 4% of buyers trust information from a vendor's sales rep while 60% feel
- 9:24more confident after consulting peers or reading reviews.
- 9:27That's a dramatic shift in trust.
- 9:29So how do companies build these communities effectively?
- 9:32The best approaches involve hosting user groups, organizing customer summits, and creating
- 9:37formal advocacy programs.
- 9:39Companies identify their power users and give them platforms to share their success stories.
- 9:44It creates this virtuous cycle.
- 9:46The more you engage your advocates, the more authentic marketing they generate.
- 9:50Which brings in new customers who could become the next advocates.
- 9:53I love that cycle.
- 9:55So Benny, as we look toward the future, what trends should B2B companies be preparing for?
- 10:00AI integration is going to get much deeper.
- 10:02We're talking about AI that acts like a co-pilot throughout the entire customer life cycle,
- 10:07predicting needs before they even manifest.
- 10:09Hyper personalization will become the norm, with content tailored down to individual account
- 10:14personas.
- 10:15What about the human element?
- 10:16Will all this technology make relationships less important?
- 10:19Actually, I think it'll make authentic relationships more important than ever.
- 10:24Purpose-driven engagement and trust will move to the forefront.
- 10:28Customers will increasingly prefer partners whose values align with theirs.
- 10:32It's not just about efficiency anymore.
- 10:34It's about meaningful partnerships.
- 10:36That resonates with what we see at Match B2B too.
- 10:40Companies that focus purely on features and forget the human connection struggle to build
- 10:44lasting relationships.
- 10:46Exactly.
- 10:47And here's something interesting.
- 10:48The convergence of B2B and B2C experiences will continue.
- 10:52We're already seeing B2B companies using gamification, influencer marketing, and experiential events.
- 10:58At the end of the day, B2B customers are humans driven by emotion and psychology as much as
- 11:03logic.
- 11:04The key takeaway is that successful B2B engagement in today's global market requires understanding
- 11:09that your business customers are still people with human needs and expectations.
- 11:13Perfectly said, Brenda.
- 11:15Whether it's through mobile-first design, omnichannel consistency, thoughtful personalization, or
- 11:20building genuine communities, the companies winning today are those that remember the
- 11:25human behind every business decision.
- 11:28This has been such an insightful conversation, Benny.
- 11:30For our listeners who want to dive deeper into these strategies, remember that Match
- 11:34B2B specializes in helping companies implement exactly these kinds of customer engagement
- 11:40transformations.
- 11:41And the beautiful thing about these strategies is that they're scalable.
- 11:44Whether you're a startup or an established enterprise, focusing on genuine customer relationships
- 11:50and seamless experiences will set you apart in any market.
- 11:54So maybe you can apply some of these insights in your own customer engagement strategy.
- 11:58Just by examining your current touch points, are they truly integrated?
- 12:03Are you building community among your customers?
- 12:05Are you protecting their trust while personalizing their experience?
- 12:09Those are great questions to ask.
- 12:11The companies that answer them honestly and act on the insights will be the ones engaging
- 12:15successfully with customers around the world.
- 12:18Thanks for tuning in to Match B2B Insights, everyone.
- 12:21We love diving deep into the strategies that are reshaping B2B relationships.
- 12:26Until next time, keep engaging, keep innovating, and keep putting your customers at the center
- 12:31of everything you do.
- 12:37And that brings us to the end of today's podcast.
- 12:39We explored the evolving landscape of B2B customer engagement, emphasizing the need
- 12:44for seamless personalized experiences and the strategic use of AI.
- 12:49Companies like Monday.com and Wix are setting the pace with innovative approaches in customer
- 12:53co-creation and community building.
- 12:56Thank you for joining me on Match B2B Insights.
- 12:59Until next time, this is Benny Fluman, reminding you that in the world of sales, the mind
- 13:04matters just as much as the market.
- 13:06Good luck and happy selling.