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  Speaker 1: welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. As you can tell, Paul's not
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  Speaker 1: here today because we completely eviscerated him in the opening.
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  Speaker 1: But Deuce is here, Alex is here, I'm here, Matt's here.
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  Speaker 1: We'll probably have a special guest a little later on. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: after a media vail that's going on right now. We
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  Speaker 1: got some of the old captain's talking, so yeah, we'll
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  Speaker 1: see what they have to say and get a guest on. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So um, it is Tuesday here at Gillette Stadium, and
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  Speaker 1: it's the day before practice starts for the public, towards
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  Speaker 1: the night before training. Unbelievable. It has just gone so far,
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  Speaker 1: so fast. Has Yeah, every year it seems to go
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  Speaker 1: a little bit a little bit faster. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I get I still got the excitement though, I
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  Speaker 1: got that like just that energy of I always think
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  Speaker 1: of Jerry Jones, and this is the classic Jerry Jones
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  Speaker 1: and Unhard Knocks where he was like giving a speech
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, I want to be here. I want
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  Speaker 1: to be with the cowboys, and I'm always like, that's
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  Speaker 1: how I feel like I want to be. I would
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  Speaker 1: have been, but I want to be here. You know,
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  Speaker 1: trading camp. Like where else would you want to be?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, especially when as in California and you'd be like,
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  Speaker 1: all these people are getting to watch training camp and
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  Speaker 1: I just have to sit here and like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'd read blobservations and you know I read that. But
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  Speaker 1: but it's cool. I'm excited. Yeah. So nine thirty tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: practice starts open to the public, So if you want
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  Speaker 1: to come down, come down. Parking is free. Everything is free, um,
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  Speaker 1: except for the food and the food trucks, but otherwise, um,
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  Speaker 1: it's a fun time for all. Whether it's supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be pretty good tomorrow, right, yep, I don't see rain
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  Speaker 1: in the forecastle all we need it, Yeah, not as
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  Speaker 1: doesn't seem as like as hot as it's been. Yeah
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  Speaker 1: for nine he's unbearable luckily for the players. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: here Elton John warming up the next few days too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's all Eton John concert tomorrow and Thursday here. So
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  Speaker 1: it's a busy Gillette Stadium kind of bounce back for
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  Speaker 1: Elton John lately with that remix that uh that he has.
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  Speaker 1: You know that song is been all over the radio
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  Speaker 1: where it's like kind of a mashup of his music.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of correctly that he has some music coming
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  Speaker 1: out with Britney Spears as well, or did I check it? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Is he going to be like another Tony Bennett and
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  Speaker 1: to do these duets? I thought that was pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: I can't lie. I mean, I don't know how you
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  Speaker 1: cannot like Elton John and some some capacity. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's when I was when I was younger. That's one
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  Speaker 1: of my first albums was Yellow Brick Road. Say that's
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  Speaker 1: that's one of my all time Okay, favorite songs. You're
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  Speaker 1: making a comeback Spears Records a duet of Tiny Dancer
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  Speaker 1: with Elton John. That's not really a Britney Spears type song.
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  Speaker 1: I'm imagining, like you don't, I don't know, She's not
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  Speaker 1: really She's more a dancer, right and she's not a
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  Speaker 1: mediocre singer. But it was like more the package of
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  Speaker 1: the presentation. I feel. You know, who is a big
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  Speaker 1: Britney Spears fan in the day, Paul Paul, He he
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  Speaker 1: liked some Britney Spears. She's well, well, when when he
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  Speaker 1: started he in like ninety nine, that was like Britney craze.
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  Speaker 1: That was right when she kind of hit it when
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  Speaker 1: she came on the scene with her school girl outfit
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  Speaker 1: and then pigtails sing it one more time. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I remember in college. That was my last year of
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  Speaker 1: college too, and like there were like four we had
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  Speaker 1: like Talent Show, Senior Talent Show when they were like
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  Speaker 1: four different groups of girls that all did Britney Spears
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  Speaker 1: school girl outfit, pigtail like dance lip sync routine. So
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  Speaker 1: that was the time to do it. Yeah, she was
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  Speaker 1: all right, but we're not here to talk about Britney Spears. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's the day before Practic Training camp starts. Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 1: had his opening press conference this morning at eight o'clock
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  Speaker 1: and I was talking with Deuce before the show, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, it was the normal you know, how you doing, Bill,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, questions that weren't going to get a response.
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  Speaker 1: But the one that did that I thought was worth
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  Speaker 1: listening to was the one on Mac Jones. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's making the rounds right now
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  Speaker 1: on the internet, but I mean it was it was
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't like to go overboard, like he
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  Speaker 1: never does. It's like I think he does praise guys,
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  Speaker 1: but it was I don't want to know if you
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  Speaker 1: would say effusive, but it was significant praise. I think
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  Speaker 1: of all the work that Mac has put in, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think that the phrase to stuck out
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  Speaker 1: to me was that, you know, he's just so much
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  Speaker 1: further along in the football conversation, which was another thing
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  Speaker 1: he kind of taught. Like remember Ernie Adams in pasts
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  Speaker 1: for the past talking about him and Bill having a
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  Speaker 1: football conversation. So yeah, I mean, it's it's everything is
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  Speaker 1: pointing to Mac doing everything that he has to do
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  Speaker 1: this offseason, and you know, will it translate on the field,
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  Speaker 1: and how big of a jump can he make? He'll
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  Speaker 1: have to go out and do that. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to like say, oh, well he's automatically going to make
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  Speaker 1: a huge leap, but I think he's done everything you
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  Speaker 1: can ask for him. And you know, as a team
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  Speaker 1: a year ago that you know wasn't sure who their
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  Speaker 1: quarterback was or you know, had that season with Cam
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  Speaker 1: Newton and you know, not having that continuity to have
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  Speaker 1: it back now. I just think that's a great place
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  Speaker 1: to start with an NFL team. I think it's critical
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  Speaker 1: and if you don't have that quarterback and somebody that
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  Speaker 1: you believe in, you're not going anywhere. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: it was they he knows more about the offense now,
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  Speaker 1: but now Bill and the coaches know more about him. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: So like you said, we're further down in that football conversation.
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  Speaker 1: So good stuff. And you know the fact that Bill
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  Speaker 1: shows to talk about that, I think that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's good. And there was another player you know, usually
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  Speaker 1: you know, how is uh, you know, Marcus Jones doing well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, okay, but when Trey Nixon's name came up,
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  Speaker 1: he talked at length about Trey Nixon a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: So that always tells me that, um, it's a guy
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  Speaker 1: who is going above what's expected of him, and they're
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  Speaker 1: hopeful and they want to encourage him to keep along
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  Speaker 1: that track. And usually if there's a young guy that
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  Speaker 1: Bill does you know, talk at length about That's why
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  Speaker 1: you know that there he showed some promise and Bill
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  Speaker 1: wants to encourage him. And especially with the relationship he's
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  Speaker 1: clearly built with Mac, they're good friends. Chemistry there. Definitely
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  Speaker 1: voting well for him. Yeah, And I mean I think
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  Speaker 1: to the you know, the passes he caught him Minni camping,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's it can be easy to get
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  Speaker 1: carried away with a handful of plays in mini camp,
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  Speaker 1: and so that's why I think I'm, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: a little bit like, is this for real? Is train
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  Speaker 1: Nixon real? For real? Is he going to even get
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  Speaker 1: opportunities with the top line guys out of the gate.
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  Speaker 1: If your answer is I don't know, that's the correct answer, right,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. He certainly looked good,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean I think, you know, to Alex's point,
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  Speaker 1: I think there were at least two passes that were
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  Speaker 1: the same completion from Mac that you know, it seemed
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  Speaker 1: like he was comfortable and targeting him down the field,
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  Speaker 1: and we've all talked about that's something that the offense
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  Speaker 1: really needs. So if that continues to show up in
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  Speaker 1: training camp and he makes a push and oh hey
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  Speaker 1: it's Parker Aglaura Nixon, then we might be talking about something.
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  Speaker 1: If he's over on the other field with all the
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  Speaker 1: you know guys running with Bailey Zappy, then you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was just kind of one of those things where, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and in that position, it is a numbers
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  Speaker 1: game right now, you know, so there's just so many weapons.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm sure he's going to get some opportunities you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's got to make the most of it. And and
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  Speaker 1: I think that to go back a point from a
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  Speaker 1: couple of shows ago, if just these guys stay healthy,
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  Speaker 1: stay on the field, it's worth so much just to
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  Speaker 1: have that continuity, even if you're not the greatest player
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  Speaker 1: in the world, just being out there every day and
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  Speaker 1: catching the balls that are thrown at you and when
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  Speaker 1: you get a chance, you make the most of it.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what you know. Guys here they're able
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  Speaker 1: to stack some success and then you know, and then
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  Speaker 1: you're realistically saying, well, che's TRAINIX and might push one
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  Speaker 1: of these other receivers that have been here off the
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  Speaker 1: roster potentially. I don't I'm not ready to realistically make
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  Speaker 1: that case, but I think it's in the realm of possibility.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, how does it, like, well Jordan Humphrey
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  Speaker 1: fit into Yeah, Like, okay, so let's let's do you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're you've done your you know questions going into camp
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. But I'll do one for everyone. What's your
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  Speaker 1: who's your sleeper? Who's your sleeper? Right now? For camp?
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  Speaker 1: I would even buy sleeper um, someone that maybe people
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  Speaker 1: aren't really considering, you know, in the mix. Uh, and
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  Speaker 1: they're sleeping on and could emerge. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 1: a stupid one, probably, but I would just say I'd
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  Speaker 1: say hand Henry Henderson because I don't think there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people that I knew you were going
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  Speaker 1: to say that. You know me, I'm a defense guy,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't I mean, has anyone sleeping on Jonathan Smith?
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  Speaker 1: Everybody knows what his year was like and what he
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  Speaker 1: needs say, is anyone hunter Henry Kendrick Bourne, Like maybe
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  Speaker 1: you could say people are sleeping on Agalore a little
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  Speaker 1: bit and looking what he did last year and kind
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  Speaker 1: of just writing him off as all right, he's not.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't totally do it, but I think
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  Speaker 1: Henry Anderson is just a guy at a position that
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  Speaker 1: they need, that's played in the league, that has shown
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  Speaker 1: he can get some pressure on a quarterback, has some
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  Speaker 1: good size. So when you talk about a defense that
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  Speaker 1: didn't have a lot added promising in the front seven,
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  Speaker 1: he's one guy that's returning that could potentially. Now I
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  Speaker 1: say this with the full admission that last year we
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  Speaker 1: were kind of is he on the bubble? We didn't
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  Speaker 1: even know if he was going to make the team.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was in training camp lighting things up. So, Alex,
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  Speaker 1: you've got a sleeper. Um. I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 1: necessarily like a specific player as a speaker as a sleeper,
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  Speaker 1: but I would really like to see someone from like
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  Speaker 1: a cornerback just step up. I think we have a
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  Speaker 1: history of per You're seeing really good talent there and
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  Speaker 1: developing it, and then like J. C. Jackson really seemed
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  Speaker 1: to come out of nowhere and was all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden the stud corner as a really young kid, and
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  Speaker 1: I would like to see that again. I think maybe
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  Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell might be your guy. Like I mean again,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of like like Anderson, a pro. He's been around,
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  Speaker 1: but got his hands on a lot of balls the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of years, you know. I just I don't
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  Speaker 1: know about Malcolm Butler. I don't know if he's ready
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  Speaker 1: to jump back in and be the same guy. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's a that's a big question too, of I
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  Speaker 1: think Malcolm Butler could be anywhere from starting left cornerback
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  Speaker 1: to not making the team. Yeah right now, if you
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  Speaker 1: haven't already guessed, one of my sleepers is Trey Nixon.
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  Speaker 1: The other is Time Montgomery. You know, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: people are gonna have a lot of high expectations for him,
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  Speaker 1: but I think he's at least as good as Brandon Bolden.
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  Speaker 1: You know, maybe not in special teams, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: like the tackling part of specialties, like getting on the
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  Speaker 1: field and tackling guys. But he's better with the ball
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  Speaker 1: in this man. Yeah, So in the backfield, I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's as good, if not better than Brandon Bolden.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I'm not I don't think
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  Speaker 1: James White's gonna be playing at least early on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I think Ty Montgomery's gonna get an opportunity. And
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  Speaker 1: I think he's got some skills he doesn't mean And
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  Speaker 1: I just don't think you could ever write off a
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  Speaker 1: guy who's played receiver and running back in the league
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  Speaker 1: when he gets here, because he can do so much.
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  Speaker 1: If they have injuries at running back or they have
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  Speaker 1: injuries at wide receiver in camp, he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to, you know, slip into one of those roles. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think he could be a good one now if
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  Speaker 1: I'm remembering correctly, I think we saw him mostly with
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  Speaker 1: the receivers in Mini camps, So you know, we'll just
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  Speaker 1: kind of see how how it plays out. But I
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  Speaker 1: think you're right on the James White, that's he's on PUP.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind having James White kind of week six
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  Speaker 1: come back. You have him just off the leadership. Guys
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  Speaker 1: talk about him in the locker room or you know
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  Speaker 1: what a leader he is, and you love to have
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  Speaker 1: that here. But why rush it? You know? But again,
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  Speaker 1: they always seem to paint themselves into a corner with
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  Speaker 1: this stuff where you're like, why did you activate the
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  Speaker 1: guy two days before final cuts when you could have
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  Speaker 1: just kept them on PUP and saved them, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and stead and now you've got a tough decision of
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  Speaker 1: how to manage these guys. So um, But I think
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  Speaker 1: that all speaks to the point of there's so many receivers,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many tight ends, there's so many running back.
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  Speaker 1: Just how does that group all play out? Because I
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  Speaker 1: don't think right now there's a place for every single
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  Speaker 1: one of you know, the quote unquote NFL players that
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  Speaker 1: that they had. I think there's gonna be some cuts,
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  Speaker 1: some changes maybe to know that guys, there always is
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  Speaker 1: for sure, Why should this year be any different. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: it so makes it surprising and interesting. And uh, but
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  Speaker 1: another and I mean some other news though too. McMillan
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  Speaker 1: came off the pup list yesterday, which I thought was
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  Speaker 1: a was a positive. Um, he was out there a
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  Speaker 1: lot in in minicamp. Seem right next to McMillan, right
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  Speaker 1: next sorry Bentley. Uh, it seemed like that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: the top inside option. And you know, how does he
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  Speaker 1: fit on on on lightdowns? Do they leave him out there? Um?
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  Speaker 1: You know, does mac wilson kind of playing to that
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  Speaker 1: and like a kind of a Roman fighter passing down
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  Speaker 1: role or as I was, you know, talking a little
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  Speaker 1: bit upstairs with our with our guests, that's coming up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, are we are we looking at four defensive
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  Speaker 1: linemen and seven safety slash cornerbacks and no true traditional
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  Speaker 1: you know linebacker. If if somebody like you know Wilson
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  Speaker 1: or McMillan or you know, to a lesser step mcgron
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  Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't elevate a lot of new faces on defense.
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  Speaker 1: You know, McMillan was a guy they got last year
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  Speaker 1: but went in IR so we never got to see him.
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  Speaker 1: Mac Wilson they picked up this year. Um, and then
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  Speaker 1: I consider all the young guys that we haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: yet as new faces. You know, um, you know mcron
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  Speaker 1: and even Ronnie Perkins Jennings for them mean Anthony Jennings. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so these are all new faces and there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of question marks on defense. That's where that's where the
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  Speaker 1: question marks are on this team. And you think back
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  Speaker 1: to last you know, last year when the big thing
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  Speaker 1: was watching Kyle van Noy and Dante Highttower screw with
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  Speaker 1: Mac Jones and Camp and you know, messing with him
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  Speaker 1: dropping and coming and you know, just just giving him
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  Speaker 1: that experience and you know, now they don't have those
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  Speaker 1: those experience kind of guys. It's really been in Jude
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  Speaker 1: on And you're gonna have to wait and see from
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  Speaker 1: the competition who the other guys are that that emerge
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  Speaker 1: as run stoppers, as pass rushers all that. But I
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  Speaker 1: mean it just you named them. I mean, throw Aucha
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  Speaker 1: into that mix. One of those guys, at least one
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  Speaker 1: of them has to step up and make plays this
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  Speaker 1: year if this defense is going to take a step forward.
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  Speaker 1: Another thing I got out of Bill this morning was
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  Speaker 1: an indication that pads won't go on until next week. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I thought they might be Saturday. You know, they would
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  Speaker 1: have Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and then Saturday put pads on.
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  Speaker 1: But he said next week for pads. Yeah, that's I
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  Speaker 1: was a little disappoint I mean, you're always excited for
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  Speaker 1: the first pad of practice. Yeah, they used to always
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  Speaker 1: be that first Saturday, right, Like they would be Thursday, Friday,
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  Speaker 1: and then the third day they'd be in pads. We'll
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  Speaker 1: have to see. I mean, you talk this morning about
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  Speaker 1: continuation of mini camp and kind of teaching a little
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  Speaker 1: bit and getting everybody refresher course to get into things.
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  Speaker 1: Next week when the pads come on and things start
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: to get competitive and then the giants they play the giants,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: you won't join practice, and then two sets of joint
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: practices too, So that's you know, it'll slowly ramp up.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: This summer is gonna fly. It's gonna fly. It always does.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Already done. Yeah right, well, I don't mean what I
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: meant to say, actually is this training camp is gonna fly.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: It's gonna go buy fast once it starts rolling. Yeah,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: you know, especially with the joint practices, will be a
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: lot of fun. It seems like that's coming together for Vegas.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: So be able to be out there. Maybe some live
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: shows would be you know, pretty cool see what those
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: facilities are like. But yeah, I mean there was just
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: so much information last year that come out, I mean,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: and and having to watch Mac verse cam and that
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: main storyline, and you know certainly want to watch Mac
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: and see that the strides that he and the offense
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: have taken by. I think the defense is just as
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: interesting of who the personnel is, how they how they
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: do things. And then you know, going up against Baker
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Mayfield and Sam Donald in camp in a couple of
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: weeks and you know, maybe seeing what Christian McCaffrey looks
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: like and in some of those space drills that they
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: do that might be might be pretty fun. And then
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: of course Vegas, which yeah, I mean just the number
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: of crazy good wide receivers they have to play this year,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: like I mean, just appripool enough. It's thinking about upstairs,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Like every single week there's like one of these Tyreek
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Hill Davante Adams. I mean, it is just relentless with
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: this schedule and the number of like really really Jamar Chase,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: really great top of the line weapons right now, that
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: goes back to alex As sleeper Hopefully there better be
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: a cornerback who emerges because they're gonna need as much
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: help as they can back there. Yeah, they cannot get
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: cut up again like we saw at last year. I mean,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: is it it feels like it's very possible that next
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: year going into like the draft, you know we need yeah,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: that number one corner. And I mean, you know, to
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: go back two years ago when Paul and I love
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Jacy Horne, you know like that, how great would it
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: be to have second year that kind of I mean,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: I know we got Mac, but you know, still it
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: was a need then that that you were probably hoping
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: come to fruition here in the twenty twenty two season
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: and a lot of uncertainty right now. In some NFL news,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting one of the Patriots opponents
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: this year will be Kyler Murray and this whole thing
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: about in his contract he has to do at least
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: four hours of independent study per week or something like that. Yeah,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: oh I miss this. Yeah yeah, So I guess he said, like,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I don't need to watch film. I just go out,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I know everything. I don't need to watch film. And
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: so part of his new contract is you're gonna watch film.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: It's such a bad sign. It's like when you're a
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: D one athlete and you're forced to do study hall
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: and yeah, it's like you're great, you you're below a three.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Oh you gotta you got Yeah, you have to have
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: your teachers sign your hearing thing. I mean, yeah, you
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: can't take fakes for Healy class. I just it's such
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: a hard thing. And we've talked about it so many
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: times of you use a high round draft pick, not
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: not even you know, to mention the number one overall
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: pick to get a guy you like him, but he's
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: got some holes in his game. He's got some holes
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: in his you know, overall package that he presents. But
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: what what is the deal breaker? You know, like what
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: can push you over the edge because it's like stuff
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: like that that, yeah, you gotta demand that he studies,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: like I know that's that's supposed to be like part
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: of a quarter backs DNA, right and and uh, you
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: know they're talking about Good Morning Football this morning, like
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: how do you how do you check that? And and
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: how do you say we don't you know? Then Kyle
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Brandt was saying, you know, like oh, well we finished
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: six and eleven. Uh you didn't study enough, like, like
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: you and we're not going to pay you, Like, how
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: does that happen with lawyers and contracts? And I mean,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: what what a mess? I mean not to mention that
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: everyone's making fun of them all day to day and
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: this is going to be all season long, as they
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: were pointing out of like press conference before hours of
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: study day, right, you know, like like you can't tell
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: me they're not going to be saying that it's crazy
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: season long. So Danny Amndola retired officially at thirty six. Yeah.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: ELX wrote up with yeah, coach had some nice things
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: to say. Yeah. Uh. At first it was like a
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: pretty simple answer, but then someone followed up and he
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: gave a nice longer one about Danny comparing him to
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: uh the Troy Browns, Julian Edelman's of the world and
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: study ranked among the best of those like prototypical slot receivers. Yeah,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: like I said earlier, Um, he he has said in
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the past that had he not been as injured as
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: he was, he'd be right up there with the best
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: of him. Yeah he didn't. You can't argue, I mean
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the guy was still clutch. Yeah, you know, well I thought, yeah,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I mean I thought back to, uh, you know, the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: first game with the team, and so Welker had left
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: and you know, they had resigned Edelman, but I don't
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: think anyone at that point was really expecting Edelman to
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: be the guy, and Amondola was signed to be, you know,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: that vital slot weapon for for Tom Brady, and I
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: remember fans being beside themselves with with his injury history.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: And then he you know, kind of classic Danny. Danny
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Amndola comes out in Week one against the Bills and
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: like a back and forth game, like injures himself while
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: catching ten balls one hundred and four yards, like they
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: pull out the win. He has like these acrobatic like
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: in the air catches, both growing right, and then he
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: was out the next three weeks. So yeah, it's kind
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: of classic. Another another tidbit I got was that he
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: was inactive the last four games of twenty sixteen, and
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: then you know, came in and was a huge part
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: of Super Bowl fifty one. Uh you know, so to
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: come in kind of a little bit not not so fresh,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: having you know, not played in a few weeks, he
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: clearly helped deliver in the Super Bowl. And and then
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I think twenty seventeen was you know, probably his pinnacle season,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: just because Edelman was out and he finally had to
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: step into that that slot role kind of full time.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: And of course I think I think the social team
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: put out the the catch he had in the AC
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Championship game, which was wow, you know how we got
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: both feet down crazy, and and then another huge game
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: against the Eagles, even even in defeat. So yeah, he
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: was he was a classic. I wish there was another
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: guy like him, you know, out there on the roster.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised there isn't another one of those kind of
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: prototypical slots, you know, no offense that Trey Nixon or
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers, who were kind of there now, but just
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: those were always kind of the guys that that made
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the engine of the offense run. Yeah, like Braxon Barrios
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: came in and everyone was like, oh, that's gonna be
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm not disappointed about that, even though like
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: we were never that impressed with him here and he's
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: just but he's kind of you know, it's like I
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: saw what he did last year and I'm like, it's
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: kind of stinks that you essentially picked Gunner over him.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: That was when when training camp came, you know, Gunner
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: playing a little d back and being you know, just
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: returning Ponzi. He had a couple good years. But you know,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I think I not not to pump up bracts the
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Burrials too much. But that's still what I'd still take him,
• 21:13
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• 21:15
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• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Web radio at Patriots dot com is the email address.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the phones and email see what people
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: are thinking. We'll start with Patty and Agawam, what's up Patty? Everyone? Hey,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: So I wanted to do a little mac Jones talk
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: today and I wanted to give you give you guys
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: three things that I really want to see from him
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: this year. Um, but I think he'll be conducive to him.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Not you know, I'm saying that he'd arrived, but we
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: could say that, yeah, he took that that year to jump,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: you know when he ran with it. Um. The first
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: thing very simple. We gotta we gotta see a cutdown
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: on mental mistakes with him. No more delayed game penalties.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I mean I think we saw more delayed game penalty
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Glad here that we saw in all twenty years of
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady. And I know it's Tom Brady, but I
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: mean that that's gotta gets cleaned up. The number two
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: things I want to see, obviously, what they've been working
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: on a lot in OTAs and in the mini camps
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: was push the ball down field. You know, make make
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: some mistakes if you have to throwing it deep, but
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: get the ball past ten yards on the line of primise,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: you know. And the third thing, I think the biggest thing,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I want to see him engineer a handful maybe like
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: between three inside game winning game winning drives this year.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And yet wouldn't that be nice? And what you guys think, Yeah,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think the getting the ball down field
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: is important, and I think they will. We saw some
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: of that already in mini camp, but it just to
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: give the defense something else to think about. Yeah, you know, yeah,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's the you know, the contested catchability of
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Parker and the speed of Agalore on the outside. But
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, I I think all those things are totally
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: totally correct, and you know, I would assume the operation
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: is better with with just having more command. But I
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: just want to see pace. I want to see the
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: offense hit their stride and and you know, we saw
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: it a lot with with Brady offense, when you just
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: get rolling and the other team is scrambling to try
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: to figure out what you're doing. Like, I'd like to
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: see that a few times. I think there were, you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a couple of little glimmers of it, you know, namely
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: against Cleveland last year. But seeing him fully grass the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: offense and being able to put a defense on its
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: heels and not have answers for a long Yeah, what
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: that would be it for me. I've said it many times.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I never want to hear another team say the Patriots
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: are easy to defend again. Yeah, you know, that's the
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: It's in all my years here, it's the first time
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I've ever heard opponents say that. Yeah, you know, and yeah,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't make it easy for the other team.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And I just I mean, you know, I think it's
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: it's a little too simple just to connect it to
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: not having the guys. I mean, I just think it's
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: a full offensive thing, you know, and that's that kind
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: of to the pace and you know, we're not afraid
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: to throw it downfield to take a speed shot to
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Agalore or you know, if if if Parker's lined up
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: with with a height advantage over, we're not afraid to
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: try to push that. But you know, but still, I
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: think it's the inside. It's the Bourns and the and
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the Myers and the you know, consistency and bam bam bam,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Stevenson's about to run, you know,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: on their dime package and he's just running over defensive back.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: You know, those kind of things where it's not easy
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: to defend because they've got all kinds of different answers
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: to what you're gonna try to do. You know, you
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: come out in the same look, but you run a
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: different play. That's the key. Yeah, you know, um, Dominics
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: in New York. What's up Dominic? Hey? How is everyone doing? Okay?
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Look at awesome? Just going back through conversation Alex had previously.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I'm a track guy. I ran track for Spelling and Brockton.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I remember my fair share people is spilling out during
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the hurdles. Usually were very supportive, even though it's very
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: during the hurdles. Yeah, yeah, you see the spills out,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the spell out during the you know, the like whatever
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: whatever hurdle being is that what they call it spilling
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: out like the lack of a Oh yeah, Fred wasn't
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: here for my most embarrassing sports moment, but I heard
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the tape. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But um. But
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: going back to my point, one of the things that
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I'm curious about is between the wide receiver battle. I
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: have my standout, of course, I think Trey Nixon's going
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: to be standout. I'm curious to see how the receivers
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: operate at the you know, the short, intermediate and deep level, right,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: so you don't have a you don't want to have
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: another Nikkiel Harry Flasso where there was no separation. You're
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: catching tough, contested balls all the time. So I'm curious
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: that's something now you'll be looking forward in Camp. Um
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: hopefully too steps up. I also think there will be
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: a surprise Camp standout in Christian Wilkerson. Yeah. I'm not
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be a contributor, but I think he's
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: gonna play very well. He's another guy we haven't mentioned
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that had production last year. Yeah yeah, yeah, he did
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: get separation. When he did, he had a tough time.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: He can you know, his hands on the ball. But
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: but yeah, he did get it. Yeah, yeah, I mean
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I just yeah, god. Yeah. So my question is is
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that will you be looking for in camp as well?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: And also who are your surprised cut because I have
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: James White as being a surprise, but Nelson Aguil or
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: kinda and believe it or not, Gayleen Mills, because I
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: really expect Marcus Jones to step up conna Ellis Hobbs,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: you know how he's a good special teamers, okay, coverage guy.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe could contribute at that end, but I think he'll
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: actually pop a little bit more than people. But yeah, well,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I guess we've got to look at Marcus Jones. But
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I mean Jack Jones was in the mix. I mean,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to say that about Mills.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: But I also think he's the most experienced and the
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: only guy, and I think that he's a little bit,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you know, just under rated last year as to what
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: he did. But but I don't think it's um it's
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: too crazy. I think the contestic catch thing, it's it's
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: it's a part of the game. But I just hate
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: how it kind of gets such a spotlight on it
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: because I kind of agree with what I think he's
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: saying in that it's not really an effective way to
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: build an offense to rely on guys who are really
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: good at contestic catches, Like you know, I'd rather have
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: guys that are really good at getting away from people. Um.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: But that said, I mean, I think Parker is as
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: good as anybody at the league at doing it. So
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you know, that said, I think you know we did.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: We did see I think one catch in minicamp that was,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of a contestic catch to Parker on
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the sideline. So I think that's part of it. I
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: think it with aglor speed, as I said, those guys
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: on the outside, I think that's kind of a combination
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: that that they're going to play with to try to
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: stretch the field a little bit. But again, the contestic
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: catch stuff, it is, what is that it? I just
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: don't think it's as as Paul would and I would
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: say sustainable. I do. But you know, you can't always
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: get separation, especially in the NFL, so you know you
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: have to, you know, have guys that can do that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: You know, it's not like Alabama where you know, Waddle's
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: just running down the field, you know, wide open. You
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: need guys who can catch the ball when there's someone
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: there defending them, you know, in their face, and there
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: is a skill to it. And I think Nikola Harry
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: left a little bit of a bad taste in her
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: mouth just because he was a big guy and you
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: expected him to be good at it, but somehow he
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: tended to get out physical for the ball and so
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: that maybe puts a little bit of a damper on
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: how you feel about those kind of players. But I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: mean you can't. You can also look at Randy Moss
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and that nobody better that can test it catches than him,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: and it's like he's uncoverable. You know, when you're right
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: in front of him, he can go up and get it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's something to be said. I just
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: again engine Born Myers, Nixon, those kind of guys, and well,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you know and think about it, you know, And and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Doman, I appreciate it. If you're
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: not willing to throw as a quarterback to guys who
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: are covered, that really limits you. Yeah, that really limits you.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: You know. Now a guy has to be open for
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: me to get rid of the ball, you know. And
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: so now that that and what happens then is you
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: have quarterbacks who just pull it down and run or whatever.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: And you know, they just they just never get it off.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: And you have to be confident in your receivers because
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: if you have guys that can make those fifty fifty catches,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: that opens up that now you can stay on time, yeah,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you know, in the pocket. And so you can't just
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: rely on guys in the NFL just getting open and
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: then I'll throw it to them. Yeah, And I think,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think in Mac two, like you know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: one of his strengths is anticipation and throwing, you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: before the guy is on his brake. And so hopefully
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: this year he's able to identify those matchups a little
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: bit and know, all right, this is the time to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: take a shot to Agalora because he's got a speed
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: advantage or or you know, like I was saying with
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Parker with height advantage, or you know, knowing his weapons,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: having a familiarity with these guys that he's been working
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: with for you know, two years and all through the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: summer now, you know, and having confidence in them, like
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: you said, to let them, you know, go up and
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: make plays on them. And at the in worst case,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: it's going to be an incomplete because I know that
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: if I underthrow this a little bit or whatever, my
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: receiver's going to turn into a defender and he won't
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: let the other guy catch it either. So it's it's
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: just that confidence. And you know, if you don't have that,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: then you're really limited. You're limiting your quarterback if you
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: don't have guys that can go up and get it. Yeah.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I wonder too, how much of we'll see Mac get
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit uh po that guys. This. You know
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: what Brady used to do when it's not quite the
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: way I want it. I mean, we saw him in
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: camp kind of walking routes for guys. You know how
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: much ownership does matter? I mean I think he took
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: has taken a ton of ownership of from what I
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: saw on the field in the spring. But yeah, when when, when,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: when it's his fault, you'll know it, um. And when
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: it's somebody else's fault, I think you'll know it too. Um.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: And that gets back to what Patty said. You know,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: he wants to limit those delay of games that he
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: saw last year. Yeah, there were some, and a lot
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: of them were on Mac, but not all of them,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: not all of Because I remember him walking to the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: sideline with palms up, like, what are we doing guys? Yeah,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: it wasn't always his fault. And I saw a stat
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: too that because we've also, you know, Paul and I
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: are talking about taking sacks, you know, not identifying protection
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: correctly and not knowing where the free rushers coming and
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: getting blasted. And I saw a stat and I believe
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: it was from PF that that he only allowed one
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: all season long, where like the sack was on him.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I take it for what it is. I don't know,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: but I think it's all It's all kind of connected though.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: And even if you couldn't point to the stats and
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: say X y Z is where he ranked in terms
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: of you know, pre snap penalties and all that, I
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: just think that whole operation will be smoother. He'll have
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: more control and confidence in knowing what he's doing, and
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: we'll be able to get everybody on the same page
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: and and get the ball out quick. A lot of
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: emails coming in. One is from Peter and he's from Ottawa.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I think Peter's brought us lunch before. Just wanted to
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: chime in and say how much I'm enjoying the addition
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: of Alex to the show. Thanks Peter. Oh, she is
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: bringing lots to the table. I have to say it
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: was really pleased when she started talking about diet. I've
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: been listening to you guys for years, and I'm so
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: happy there is someone there who finally knows the right
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: way to eat. Define right way. I mean, I have
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: fun eating and I find it the right way. Are
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you in a dark place right now with you're eating? Friend? Yeah? Anyway,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: high protein and fat is the way to go. No
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: vegetable oils, little amount of carbs. I've been eating this
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: way for years. I'm in the best shape of my life.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I just wish she could get Paul to stop drinking
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: diet soda. The stuff is terrible for him. Pete, I'm
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: gonna get these guys on a meal planet. We're going
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: to run an experiment. Maybe you can help me there. Now,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: diet soda, right, yeah, there's no calories in it? Correct?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: So why is it bad for you? When you're taking
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: out actual sugar, they're sweetening it with all these chemicals
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: and crap. I don't know that stuff's like made in
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: a lab. That can't be good for you. Okay, this
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: is why it's bad for you, no matter what soda
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: in general. When in nature, when when we are a
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: hunter and gatherers, were we getting that much sugar into
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: our system at once? You never heard of sugar is
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: the carbonated rivers of Canadas. It's a shock to your system,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: like a total shocked there, Like why are we getting
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: all this show? Not me? I've been doing it since
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I was four years old. My body's used to go,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I actually saw something and this is another thing, Like
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I saw something on the internet, so it must be true.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Um that they're like disoda, really, isn't that for you?
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Like I've always been on the trainers like it's not really.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't enjoy the taste of disoda, but um,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I heard the reason why I heard
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: the reason why it's bad for you is that people
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: who tend people who drink a lot of diet soda
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: tend to think, oh I'm good, and then they eat
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: a huge bag of chips with it, you know, so
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: like false sense. Yeah, it's a false sense of security
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: and then you you go overboard on other things. Yeah,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I meant soda contains aspartine, which is a leaning cause
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: of Alzheimer's. Pause. Paul doesn't forget any you forgot where
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: put it? Yeah, not affecting again, he's not the model
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: for that. But uh, I mean I will say that
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: when I started dating my wife, she got she got
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: me to just not. I mean, I still drink soda,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I still dink drink gatorade. I just don't buy it
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: at the supermarket. I don't have it in my house,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: so I don't consume as much. And I instantly lost
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: like ten pounds just not having gatorade. And yeah, and
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: you're not drinking your calories. It's makes such and that's
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: and that was a switch I made, was to water
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: and just constantly drinking water. Part of it was like
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: work thing too, or I just constantly drink water. So
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I'll get up. I'd have to
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: go with that room and come. You know, it just
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: keeps you. Well, that's the other thing they said, you know,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: like even though like diet sodas ninety percent water or
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: orange juice is ninety percent water, whatever, is it true
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: that like if it's not water, your body processes it
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: different and thinks, oh, this is food, I'm gonna process
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: it different. Or because they say, like, you know, just
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: drink water. Don't don't drink you know, just drink water.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: It's better for you. Yeah, coconut water too, that's a
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: natural source, truly sweetened um. Definitely some goods lights. Yeah,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: but I like coconut water. I like coconut water too. Yeah,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: as long as you don't go over and board too,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: because that'll blow you in. Put on some weight too,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: is that right? Yeah? Yeah, but I still there are
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: just times when I think a coke and a bag
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: of popcorn. That's just yeah, one of my best friends. Like,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, typically it is after a night of drinking.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: But the way this girl craves a McDonald's fountain coke,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, the fountain like a fountain with crushed ice,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: That to me is just soda, soda perfection. Yeah, let's
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: see Colin and Rutgers writes in congratulations to Danny Amandola
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: and his retirement, He's always one of my favorite players.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Once the key guys from the Dynasty years get into
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: the Patriots Hall of Fame, do you think guys see
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Danny Amondola getting in his clutch playoff performances stand out
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: to me when I think back on his time with
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, and I'm just curious if that would be
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: enough to get him in. I don't think so. I mean,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I love the guy, but like at a certain point,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: you can't put anybody who made one or two big
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: plays in the super Bowl into the Hall of Fame, like,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: you know, like I think that's kind of the Edelman thing.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I think Edelman goes beyond that and is definitely in UM.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: And same thing with High Tower, Like I feel like
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: High Tower he made a bunch of major plays. I
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: think the difference in the defense when High Tower was
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: in him was out was market. But speaking of High Tower,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: have we heard anything. I was going to bring that
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: up earlier, but still not a peep. And it's so strange,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: isn't it weird trying to figure out I don't get it,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: and like not even like a think I might retire,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: would be open to visits or yeah, he's very He's
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: not a big social media guy. No good for him.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: He has been posting, though, at least his wife has.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I follow them both and it looks like they've been
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: having a great summer with the kids. Yea, his dog.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Do you see that the billboard here here in near
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Jilest Sadium themselves like seems anti Dante or like it's
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I just always see him is like
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: this big, badass linebacker and he's like a little little
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: dog up on the maybe kind of you know, he
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: and Bill have kind of an agreement, will just keep
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: you in the background and if if we need you,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I I you know, as much as I am banging
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: the drum, and they got to find some new guys,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and they certainly do. I would always take Dante high
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Tower back. Um, you know, I don't. I don't know
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: if he can come needs to come back and play
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: every down, but I think that there's always a place
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: for it. But to me now at this point, that
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: means it ain't working out. It ain't working out, you know,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: well you know, but I'd rather the year off too
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: that gave me. I love him like he is one
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: of my favorite players of my lifetime, watching the pads,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: like that's the era I grew up with and like
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know, those clutch plays and such a presence.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: He's such a presence. But you're right, But like the
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: thing I keep going back to is like, just get
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: the best team you can possibly get. And I'm sorry
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: if Anthony Jennings or Josh Ucha aren't set in the edge,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: like you know, to the level that you would have hoped.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: If you feel like Dante high Tower can still do
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: it better, just to bring them back. I know it stinks,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: but you know, just don't don't try to prove a point.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I wish Paul here because you know, let let the
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: kids play. I know, no, I know that would that
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: would be good. We will talk about it. Joey Wrights
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: saying he's from Texas. I feel like our wide receiver
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: group is pretty good, but not great with so many receivers,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: do you guys think Mac Jones will find it difficult
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: to build chemistry with everyone. Typically the quarterback usually has
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: his favorites, but since Mac is fairly new to New England,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: how does he even pick his favorite wide receivers? Since
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: there really isn't a great and obvious pick. I don't know,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: don't you? I mean, isn't an argument to be said
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: that it's good that he doesn't just have one guy
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: that's awesome and it's trying to feed him, and that
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: he's got to find this offense himself, and that they've
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: given him a number of different styles of targets to
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: work with, and I think it's not to force feed anybody.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Usually it doesn't take long in camp for that to
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: shape out. You see it like nothing is declared, you know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: they don't ever tell you these are our five or
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: six guys, but you usually can tell within the first
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks what you know, who's who's been working
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: out with these guys, Like even little Jordan Humphreys spotted
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: in the background of one of those little offseason on Yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I love it. I mean I love all that stuff.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Mike writes in in twenty twenty two. Can we get
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: the live visuals to go along with the podcast? Fred,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: please shell out the extra money to make this happen. Oh,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: they want like a like a live, like a live
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: they want to see I mean, we've had this before.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: It's like, like, what's the point after you see us
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: for five minutes? So you're really going to just watch
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: us talk, you know, unless you had somebody actually like
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: producing the show and putting graphic absolutely and little puppets
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: like they do on on the Hub with their live
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: feeds and stuff, I don't know. I mean maybe you're
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: really seeing though a lot of those pivots to the simulcast.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's probably because people can take the clips
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: and post them on social and it's like added exposure.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I mean maybe now that John Dickerson has mentioned us, uh,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: who's the Slate podcast? Maybe you know it's not a
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: sports guy, you know, no even a sports guy face
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the nation with CBS. We should start putting that on
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: the tagboard of like the oldest running podcast since nineteen Yes,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: we should, right, just get like the quotes and then
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: the Patriots unfiltered. Nobody's older. We gotta get some some advertise,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: you know, like some pump it up like the oldest
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: running pot sports podcast. We should have gotten a billboard
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: for training camp right Well, Dante High Tower Again, he
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: took that one with his dog, so um Jack writes
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: in for Manaba, the prevailing wisdom is that Cole Strange
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: will replace Ted Carross at left guard on opening day
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: this season. Well it really wasn't Ted Carross last year either.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: In all the hullaballoo about the Patriots first round pick,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: the question of who will replace Carrass as the Patriots
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: backup center has been overlooked. Backup center is an important position.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think James Ferns is good enough to be
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: even a backup center in the NFL. Who's going to
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: be the Patriots backup center on opening Day? Well Strange.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I mean he did it at the Senior Bowl. They
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: threw him in there, and I mean everybody probably saw
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: the snaps ahead. Well, no, he has played center, but
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: he has played too. But the problem is, Okay, so
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Cole Stranger is just starting left guard, he's doing well,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Andrews goes down. You don't want to move Cole Strange
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: out of left guard because now you're you know, moving
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: two positions. Yeah, you know, So I get Jack's point.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: You know who really is um and who is it
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: right right now? Yeah? Other than Cole Strange, who probably
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: will Sherman or yes here Durant. Yeah, you know, guy,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I mean guys who have played. I mean not so
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: much Sherman, but I mean Durant has played. But I
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: think that that's that's a bigger question of what does
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the second level of the line look like? How good?
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: You know it's justin Harran is the backup and we
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: all know that these tackles don't have the best injury history,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: so you know, is it just a matter of time
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: before Yadney could just or Haran get get kind of
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: thrust in, and you know that's not even getting into
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: then the interior part of the equation. But I feel
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: fine with Farren's I think he's been able to you know,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: a record book. No, can you turn off that other mike?
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Is that mike on right next to you? But yeah, okay,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I just wasn't feedback. Yeah, I'm just I just want
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: to make sure we don't have any mics on that
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: we don't need on. But I was I was talking
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: upstairs again about I think it's a really interesting year
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: for the one on ones and last year Barmore was
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: unblockable in the one on ones? Um did they stick
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Cold Strange against Barmore? You know do we see that
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: rap a couple of times? Because I mean Barmore was
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: putting Shack Mason on his back, you know, last last year,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: so uh, you know that's kind of a double edged
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: sword of like, well, I'm really excited about Barmore. Too
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: bad he was going through Cold Strange. But you know,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: just what do those look like? What do those reps
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: look like? How do these new guys? Yeah, I really
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: hope that other guys can step up because you know,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Barmore can't do it by himself. And now he's got
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: a year of tape, so teams, he's no secret. Teams know, Okay,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta account for this guy. He's pretty good.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: So you know, second year can either be that second
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: year jump or we know this guy now and he disappears.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: So I think he's that good. But there's you know,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: he's not you know, a Dominican sue as in his
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: second year, he's gonna need some help around him so
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: he can do his thing. I think my big question
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: with Barmore, and we can get into this too in
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the second hour, it is just you know, can he
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: can he get after Ta and the RPO stuff. Can
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: he get into the backfield and blow it up? Well, see,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: this is the thing he can. I don't expect him
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: to make the tackle, but if he can disrupt it.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Now what we're the thing that we've been crying for
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: a last couple of years. Speed on the edge. Now
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: this is where these guys that we don't have answers
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: to have to come in the josh uchees and all that,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: and they clean up. But he causes him to you know,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: to move off the spot. Um, that's that's why, like
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I said, like I would have loved one of these smaller,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: fast linebackers in the draft, guys that can go either direction,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: sideline to sideline to help you know when Barmore or
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: whoever in the middle, you know, disrupts it. Now up, Yeah,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Well it's you know, I said many times, think about
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the divisional quarterbacks, and you've really had no answers for
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: two of the last two years. You really certainly don't
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: have any answers for Josh Allen. Not really anybody else
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: does either. But you know what what what's being done
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: to do that? And I think you know you're you're
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: having a young, fast linebacker is a good one. Jabrill Peppers, like,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: how do we have these four safeties? You have all
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: three safeties return and who played and and and and
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: you know, Phillips and Dugger were all in the box,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: all around on the edge in the I mean just
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: everywhere upfront. How does Peppers feel into that? And and
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: is Peppers as much as he's on pup and overcoming
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: an injury, how much does he relate into that linebacker
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: that they maybe didn't take. Is he signify some kind
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: of response to this Josh Allen offense that of course,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, even when you get him, he's
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: he's running anyway. I think you know, on defense, once
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: once the once the once the snap has happened, it's
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: not as much and it's not a run play. Okay,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: So the run in a passing play, it's not about
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: size anymore. It's about speed. Yeah, you know, it doesn't
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: matter how big you are if you can get to
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: the ball, wrap up, wait for help. You know. Now, obviously,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: if it's a running play, you know you don't want
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: to be moved off your spot. But if it's a
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: pass playing like you mentioned, guys like Kyler Murray or
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: to Uh or Josh Allen, really almost all the quarterbacks
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: they're gonna play this year, once the play starts, it's
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: about speed. Yeah, it's all about speed. That's why I wonder,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: like I said earlier, is the no linebacker defense gonna
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: be all bust thing this year? Is that you know
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: what counter a guy like your Bill Peppers or any
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: of these safeties. Just because they don't have an LB
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: after their name doesn't mean they can't be the guy
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: cleaning up within two yards of the line of scrimage
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: and both those, both Dugger and Dam coming out, a
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: lot of people thought they might be linebackers in a
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: certain systems. So yeah, I mean it's it's it's a
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: little bit semantics of you know, Bill said today, we're
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: not really into coaching titles. I don't really think they're
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: into position titles either when we talk about the position
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: of the defense. But you know that that that's something
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: to keep an eye and I do think mac Wilson's
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: a little bit of of a of a wild card
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: in that regard because he can run and he's quick,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: and you know he's he's not um the big kind
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: of traditional linebacker, but he's tough. So how does he
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: fit into things? I think that's an element too. And
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: this is Paul hates this. Paul hates it when you say,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: you know, they're really going to be a scheme based defense.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: They're not going to have the superstar that you know,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: teams have to game plan, but they're gonna play well
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: together because they're gonna be game planned up before each game.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: They're gonna have assignments and if they can do their assignment,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, Paul will he hates that because
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you need talent, but I do believe
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: on defense, not necessarily, but on defense, if you have
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: guys that all can do their job well, you can
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: be okay. Yeah, I mean I still I mean that
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: still speaks to like the core of what I believe
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: of football, that you know, a well coached team playing
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: together will beat a team that has maybe more talent
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: but aren't playing together. And I don't know, I don't
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: think anyone will convince me. Certainly there are games where
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: talent just takes over and happens, but not to say
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: that you should actively not pursue talent. But you know,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I just I still have hope. I still have hope
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: even though there are a lot of questions on the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. And I mean I would
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: almost apply it more to the offense as well. Like
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I know, they don't have that great a superstar that
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: everyone is in love with right now, and if you
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: don't have a supermobile quarterback or one a receiver, you
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: got nothing. I think that they can still be effective
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: not give teams, you know, something to key on. And
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I think that they could be better on offense. Like you,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I've said it I'm bullish on the offense. Yeah, I
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: think the offense is going to be better than people
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be. I think it's a top ten.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I mean that's what my expectation is, and I mean
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I have high expectations. But I think that they have
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: the pieces and it's just a matter of bringing it
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: together and hopefully this offensive schemeshift just helps boost that
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: whole that whole thing, whatever that might be. Let's get
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: to the phones again, the ah Sticket helpline eight five
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: five pats, five hundred Christians in LA. What's up Christian? Hey,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: good morning guys. Then yeah, the approach training camp. Now,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: are you guys going to be you guys will be
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: situated and someone watching the defense, someone's watching the offense,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: and you communicate with each other. Or are you guys
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: are gonna be one group at the defensive at the offense? Noah.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I mean we're usually kind of just wherever you go.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I always it's hard. Sometimes guys are a
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: mile away and so you can't really plan to watch something.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Um I mentioned the one on ones. That's always something
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: fun to look at, but it's so we won't see
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: difficult We won't really see that until the pads go on. Yeah,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: there's there's not this I would say the next few days.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: As much as I'm excited to be out there, there's
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: probably not going to be a whole bunch of information
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: or things gleaned from it other than But it's a
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: it's a good question because there is a lot going
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: on at the same time, and you know what we
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: tend to do is, you know, we tie you to gravitate.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: You know, uh, like Paul will be watching, you know,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: what's going on with the receivers, you know, and like
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: du said, you know, maybe someone's watching the one on
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: ones between the offensive line and the defensive line. Um,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: so we we do that a lot, you know. Yeah,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I mean I think the team the team periods too
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: or where you often get the most out of when
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: it's live. Um, didn't really see much real like live
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: ball down and distance, that kind of scrimmage stuff and
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: mini camps, so that stuff is Yeah, I mean that's
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: easy to watch too, because it's all happening right there.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Thanks Christian, Let's go to Fidel in Florida. What's up, Fidel?
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Hey you guys, how are you good? Good? I actually
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: was calling in for a topic guys had on Thursday
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: about mattresses because that's actually that's right football. So he's
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: always selling the furniture to doll the So what do
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: you got, Well, my specialty is mattresses. So I was
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: gonna say the repetis are the best. Absolutely, I recommend
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: those to everyone. Uh, they are expensive, but they're not
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: as expensive as one I think Eric would get. U.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: There's a new bed called an Intela bed. It's made
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: with this like jail material. It costs like ten thousand dollars.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure if there was a mattress Eric, who
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: it would be that one. But that's not a therapeutic peutic,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: right Eric. That's a different brand. And I was gonna say,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: it's a shame that Paul's not on because I think
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: the mattress he got wasn't a therapetic. It's like one
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: of those off brand one. Oh, how do you know
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: top therapetic. It's all, oh, yeah, that's a great point.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Got temperpedic, Like you put the glass of wine and
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: you jump. You got one too. You can get fifty
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: percent off therapeutic temperpedic. All right, I'm I'm so fidel
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I leave your number with I'm not in the market
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: right now, but I know I will eventually, and I'm
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: gonna hit you up for that perfect all right. So, um,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: because the new convers years having about weight loss and diet,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I called a few months ago, Um, I was actually
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: having surgery because I had lost a lot of weight
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: how to get the loose skin thing off. I actually
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: lost like over two hundred pounds. Wow. And how I
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: did that was I just kind of my calories. I
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: didn't really think of being keto, no carbs, noing fat.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: It was just like kind of my calories living myself
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: to this money. Yeah, so that's the weight watchers model. Yeah. Yeah,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: but that's concerning because like I used like the Mistiness
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: talapp and just scanned everything. And there's an website called
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: a TDEE Calculator which your high weight age and your
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: sex and it tells you how much calories you need
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: to burn in a day and how much you need
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: to eat in the day just to maintain, lose or
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: gain weight. But now, how are you keeping track of
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: what nutrients you were taking in though? Like was it was?
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: It just like you didn't care it was strictly calorie
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: because I could see some other health effects kind of
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: playing in there. I would always have at least two
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: hundred twenty grams two hundred twenty grams protein, about like
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: four hundred grams of carbs. I work out like five
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: days a week and about eighty five to ninety grahams fat.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Well that's good. Over two hundred pounds. That's awesome. And
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: you've been able to keep it off obviously, yeah for
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: like five years now. Wow, that's great. Congratulations, All power
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: to you guys. And was it the coke that put
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: it on in the first place or no, it was
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: the pizza, the fried food, all that stuff. I would
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: sound like lunch here every day. That was my thing.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Sweet tea. I would drink a gown of sweet tea
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: in every meal. And when I realized how may calgar
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: and that, I was like, I can dan the diet
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: version that has zero calories. It tastes almost the saint.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: So I'll just do that like one hundred pounds like
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: five months. Wow. Wow, Well that's great. Always good to
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: hear that success story. Yeah, thanks for Dell, And I'm
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: I'm all for fifty percent off tempera pedic. A nice
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: mattress is that now is that memory foam is a
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: temper it is. It's the original. It's the one that
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: now Asad developed that the astronauts have. I have the
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: memory phone. It can be a little hot. Yeah, well
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: they have a cool version now, I guess I don't
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: know how it works, but they gave us like a
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: like a zip up that you put around it. That's
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: like this cooling kind of material that that kind of helps.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: But once you're kind of in it, and you know,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: especially when in the humidity, it's yeah, it can be
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: a little tough with that, but I like it. I've
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: gotten used to. This is Bob's Furniture is still a sponsor.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That's those Paul's guys. All right, So
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: I can't tell you where I got my mattress. We
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: gotta get the Bob's studio at the Bob's Discount Furniture
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Studio ready for for Paul in the in the preseason game,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: right Eldred's in North Carolina. Hay Aldred, Hey, ladies and gentlemen,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: how y'all doing today? Good? Yeah? Yeah, I got a
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: couple of questions. I heard part of your earlier conversation,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: like who's gonna be real second Uh maybe the guys center.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: What about Damian Williams when we picked up he ste
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: alone art or the Daryl Williams Right, Yeah, he's been around.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't think he's ever I mean, same thing.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: He's in that mix with those second level but does
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: he have center experience. I'm not sure. I had him
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: as a guard, but he did some. ESPN has him
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: four or five yeah, even to get us. And don't
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: forget about Cody Russey too, because he got one hundred
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: and eighty K out of Houston, and I mean and
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: he was getting some action because Andrews was out in
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: minicamp too, so I'd put him in the mix. You know. Again,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: if Paul was here, he'd be like, oh that the
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: numbers Center. Yeah, well I thought you were gonna say
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Paul got mad at the at how much they paid
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: free rookie free agents like that. That's another thing. I
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: think that she would just get mad because we're talking
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: about an offensive linemen. Yeah, so what one question is Okay,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I thought cole Frame was going to the right guard
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: because she lost Mason, and who's the left card? So
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: if he go left guard, Yeah, who's gonna be the
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: right guard and not take it off the air. Yeah okay, yeah, yeah,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: that wasn't when used college positions, So I mean he's
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: kind of been on a position. They tried to play
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: him a left guard last year and that's when Carros
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: came in. Um, we know we played right tackle a bunch,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: but but I think right guard is something to watch
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: with him and and left guard is what cold strange? Yeah, Cole,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I mean we saw him minicamp. He was after the
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: first day right in there there he is. Yeah, yeah,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: put him right in Greg's in California. Hate Greg. Hey, guys,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: can you hear me? Yeah? Yeah, okay, cool. Um. First
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: of all, I'm the guy who called in a couple
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago and started the whole argument about Drew
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Brees that happened. I was like two weeks of content. Yeah, yeah,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I was, because many people cared about that. Good question.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: So my question is I didn't really watch the build
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: last few games of the season two close until recently.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: And besides, when they played US twice, people seem to
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: be able to force puns on them a right, they
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: had our number. You see the divisional round against Kansas City,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: So much. Yeah. Well, statistically speaking, we were a pretty
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: good defense last year. I feel like we were a
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: better defense than the Jet as a whole. But I
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: think you have to look at that like last six
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: games versus the rest of the season, because we had
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: that one stretch where we feasted on you know, the
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: lesser part of the league and that upped our stats,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: you know, so you have to look at it in
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: context of each game and at the end of the season,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: we just didn't do well defensively. Yeah, I mean, do
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: you think even at the end we were worse than
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: the Jets defense or the Panthers one or no. No,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, in a weird way. They still would have
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: hammered those teams and probably completely shut them down, just
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: like they shut down Jacksonville. But for whatever reason, against
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: the good teams, they just they didn't have it. I
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: have no explanation for it. I don't I don't know
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: why this has happened in the last few years. And
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Greg, do you I know, you
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: know you don't want to make excuses, but do you
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: think that there was you know, guys who just got
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: worn out at the end of last year? I mean,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe but you know, like I'm why why
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: this year? What? Yeah? Yeah, like Matt shoot on and
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: you know, like did some of them just get worn out?
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: And that's not an excuse, but what was it the case? Yeah?
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean you could say the same thing
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: about you know, twenty nineteen when it was the Boogeyman
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: and they started out on fire and then you know,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Tennessee rolled right over them here. Um, you know, twenty
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: twenty down the stretch, it wasn't really coming together. Then
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: last year the same thing. So I just I'm looking
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: for a common thread in a way to say, oh, yeah,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: they did, but like you know, they've kind of done
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: it the last three years to varying degrees, and maybe
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: the you know, maybe the common connective tissue is those
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of veteran linebackers that they have. But
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: it's hard to blame them. I mean, I really don't know.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm hoping that this is a reset,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: and I'm just excited for tomorrow to finally get past
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: that Buffalo game and no punts and get some new
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: football on the field and start to have new things
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: to talk about and give them a chance again. But
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's disconcerting. But again, you watch them against
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Kansas City, watch Buffalo against it, they ain't they It's
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: not like oh there before. I mean, Josh Allen is
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: playing out of his mind last year, and if that continues,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: you need to pray, you know, to beat him, because
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: even when you have the right coverage, he squirts out.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: You know, even when you got him on fourth down,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Hey we got the fourth and two, He's just gonna
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: run a little quarterback, keep it right up the middle.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's I'd love to know at a
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: high level what Bill Belichick thinks his defense needs to
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: do to compete with these kind of teams, because it's
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: it's frankly, it's been two years that that there haven't really,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: you know, been improvement. It's just got to get defended.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: These get there the Dolphins, you know, our pos and
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: just I would just say generally Josh Allen because I
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: think it's more about him than they maybe Buffalo's scheme
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: of a why that they're so all right, We're gonna
• 58:41
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• 58:44
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  Speaker 1: Evan Lazar has been Evan Lazar has been crushing the
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  Speaker 1: craft sports, entertainment and everything else we do. Hello, Evan, Well,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for the introduction. Well, I was impressed, I
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  Speaker 1: mean when you made your announcement yesterday, because I know
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  Speaker 1: you had the world that bated breath you teased them
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  Speaker 1: two weeks ago, and then when you made your announcement,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the outpouring of congratulations on Twitter was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I'm so happy to be here.
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  Speaker 1: This is amazing. Already off to a good start, I hope.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, see, we'll see, we'll see how you
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  Speaker 1: wrote up. So you just came from a player availability,
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  Speaker 1: and so we'll jump right in. What'd you hear anything interesting?
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  Speaker 1: Some more? Praise for Mac Jones Matthew Slater saying that
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  Speaker 1: that this is Max team now and that he is
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  Speaker 1: you know, thinks that the world of him basically, and
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  Speaker 1: surprising to hear the language that Belichick used to describe
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  Speaker 1: what big of a leap Mac has made this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: So it was a lot of praise for Mac again
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  Speaker 1: from Slater, but he also talked about being a kid
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  Speaker 1: in school again coming back from summer break, and that's
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  Speaker 1: sort of the feel of today and tomorrow for most
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  Speaker 1: of the players. So we'll see how Slater feels in
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. But I mean, we all think
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  Speaker 1: that this probably is it for him. From Matthew Slater,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, yeah, I don't know, what is
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  Speaker 1: he thirty eight now? I mean, he's still pushing it,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, still probably one of the fastest guys in
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  Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, you know, yeah, certainly the most inspirational. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what else he got for a seven? Yeah? Go ahead. Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we talked to David Andrews as well, obviously on the
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  Speaker 1: publist right now, who can come off at any time,
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  Speaker 1: and he basically alluded to the fact that they have
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  Speaker 1: no reason to rush him into training camp and he's
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  Speaker 1: just taking it day by day. But doesn't sound at
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: least based off of what he said, that he's any
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  Speaker 1: bit concerned or anything like that about missing any anything
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  Speaker 1: important as we go over the next couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: So Andrews made said he's making progress. There was no
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  Speaker 1: setbacks or anything like that after he had the shoulder
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  Speaker 1: surgery in January, so he's going to be ready to
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  Speaker 1: go here soon. It sounds like, yeah, I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: a guy you don't worry about, you know, because even
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  Speaker 1: if he misses a week or two, you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, but yeah, that'd Dmax. Anything about Jason's
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  Speaker 1: debut on Good Morning Football, he called him a media
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  Speaker 1: type now, so he made fun of us, as he
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  Speaker 1: always does. Make fun of the media types and now
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  Speaker 1: he made fun of his brother for being one of
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  Speaker 1: us or becoming one of us. But he mostly talked
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  Speaker 1: about the grind of camp, and he had made a
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  Speaker 1: joke that nobody's actually happy to be back in training camp,
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  Speaker 1: which I think he does every single season, or says
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  Speaker 1: every single year, So I wouldn't read too much into that.
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  Speaker 1: But he also mentioned that a new Jersey legend joining
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  Speaker 1: him in the safety group with Jabriel Peppers. Excited to
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  Speaker 1: all play at Yeah, no, we're gonna see four. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: But that was something we were talking about of you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean obviously Evan is has has great analysis and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm excited to to you know, welcome that in.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we're at a time now where they
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  Speaker 1: got to do some stuff on defense to counter these
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  Speaker 1: RPOs from Miami and everything that Josh Allen is um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as well as all the much talked about
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of scheme evolution. So again I think
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  Speaker 1: is that you know connected to the Shanahan offense and
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  Speaker 1: is that the direction they're going? We don't know, but um,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, what are kind of your feelings on
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: where the offensive defense? We'll get to people's calls and
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  Speaker 1: emails in a minute, but like you know, everybody knows
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  Speaker 1: like our take one going into the season, what's your take? Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: I think to go off of a Mike was saying
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  Speaker 1: the seven dB strategy or having four safeties on the
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  Speaker 1: field at once. With Peppers now in the mix, it
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  Speaker 1: reminds me of that twenty eighteen Chargers defense who shut
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• 1:13:18
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  Speaker 1: dbs or you know, kind of a dollar package with
• 1:13:27
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  Speaker 1: at what the Bills are doing with Josh Allen, and
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  Speaker 1: think maybe that could be the approach here against some
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  Speaker 1: of those teams, especially with the Dolphins now with Hill
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  Speaker 1: crossing one way and Jalen Waddles coming from the other
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  Speaker 1: direction and they're not going to be able to keep up,
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  Speaker 1: So maybe they do go with a more seven dB
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  Speaker 1: package at times. I love the idea of going four
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  Speaker 1: quarterback in those situations too. And I still think in
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  Speaker 1: terms of big picture, with the entire team going into
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  Speaker 1: the season, this all rides on mac shoulders, and I
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  Speaker 1: hate to put it all on the quarterback, but what
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: it is, it's a quarterback league. Yeah, if he can
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  Speaker 1: is playing at an MVP level. So ultimately they're going
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: to go as far as Mac Jones can take them.
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  Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question, because we were
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: talking about it just before you got here. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: about the end of last season. In your opinion, what
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: happened to this defense at the end of the last season.
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  Speaker 1: Why is Bill belichick defense unable? For example, to have
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: buffalo punt in two games. Yeah. I think the biggest
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  Speaker 1: Week was guys trying to take over games. And I
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: think him in particular, he was racking up so many
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: sacks in the first eleven twelve games of the season,
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  Speaker 1: twelve and a half sacks in the first twelve games
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  Speaker 1: as a Patriot, and he's thinking, oh, I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 1: twenty this year, right, I'm really getting after it. I
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: think after a point in time there, it started to,
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  Speaker 1: look at the defense, I think of those types of things.
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  Speaker 1: And not to bash him on his way out by
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  Speaker 1: in that category to playing for that contract. Judeon, he
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  Speaker 1: thinks that he can just tee off after the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: all the time, and but see, okay, that could be
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  Speaker 1: see that, why aren't the coaches reeling these guys back?
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  Speaker 1: You know, why do you let it go on for
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  Speaker 1: you know, seven more games or whatever it was. You know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: John the stretch last year, at the end of last year,
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  Speaker 1: we talked to them, like after the Buffalo game, for example,
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, they were searching for the answer, right, like,
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• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: So I don't know the answer of why they weren't
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: able to reel it back in. That's why I hired you. Yeah,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know, ye And I hate to
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: just no, I think that, but it's true. I mean,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: and that's what we've been talking about and then you
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: have like that outlier against Jacksonville that you know, maybe
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: they were all just kind of like whatever, we'll probably
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: beat him, and everybody wasn't trying to do too much.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: And then I mean, there were probably so much more
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: talent than Jacksonville didn't even matter anyway. But I think
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: that's one of the great questions. And I mean it
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: goes back to Bill's quote right after that game of
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: is this a bad night or is this what we are?
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: And we'll find out when we start playing again. So well,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: you know, again we have a saying around here, Evan,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: don't when it comes to Bill Belichick, don't listen to
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: what he says. Look at what he does. And what
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: he did to me in the offseason was he let
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Jamie Collins go, Dante Hike Towers that we signed, he
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: let let Venny go. And I don't think he was
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: happy with that linebacker play. And I don't think those
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: guys were going to get him where he wanted to
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: be this year. And I think it comes down on
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: defense to our some of these young guys going to
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: be able to be better than they were, you know,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: the group last year, and I'm including mac Wilson in
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: that and ray Kwon McMillan, you know who we didn't
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: see last year? Is this linebacking corps going to be
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: better than it was last year? Because to me, that's
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: where the big change is, other than losing J. C.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: Jackson obviously. Yeah, I mean it's um, you know, it's sorry.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: I just got totally distracted by that tweet and I
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: had something cute up to say. Sorry. Someone else called, yeah,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: I remember, I remember. Um. You know Tevin's point and
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: to your point, Fred, with the linebackers, he's just I
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: wonder how hungry these guys were, and not just the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: guys that have left. But I think it's understandable the
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: psychology of players who have played for championships and have
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: always been in the mix, and you know, to suddenly,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: not that they were out of the mix, but suddenly
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: they're not the big dogs anymore. They're not the favorites.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: And you know, can you get that by turning things
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: over to some younger guys. And while you might lose
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: some of the experience some of the knowledge with a
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: guy like Ouch or Jennings or some like or Perk,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: and those guys haven't won super Bowls and they know
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: right now that this is the opportunity. Are they going
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: to come out and play like hungry dogs, you know,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: or are they going to come out which I didn't
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: have a problem last year with you know, the savvy
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: of high Tower and van Noy returning after you know,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: a year when when they were just kind of like
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Bentley and terres Hall out there, I mean, the random
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: you know guys that were out there. I wonder that too,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: And then I wonder, you know, if some of these veterans,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, clearly d mac is back, but you know, Lawrence, guy,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Dietrich Wise, these guys can they can they refine that
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: level of Hey we're not we're not the top dogs.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: We have to be the scrappy get every inch that
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: we possibly can and play with that kind of style. Yeah. Yeah, Ultimately,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: I think it ties back to what we were talking
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: about with the seven dbs and the four safety package
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: and things like that. The Patriots defense is not fast enough, right,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're just simply not fast enough. And you
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: look at what Buffalo puts on the field, You look
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: at their way they run their offense, with their spread offense.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: Now you look down in Miami and just in the
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: division you can see it happening around you, but you
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: can also see it and outside the division in Kansas
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: City or in the Chargers or wherever you want to go.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: And the Patriots defense last year with those linebackers, the
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: savvy was great. The veteran presence is great. Dante high Tower,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have them, you know here in five years
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: with the red jacket on and everything, and an all
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: time great Patriot. But they simply weren't fast enough at
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: the second level. And you start to look at some
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: of the things that they can do. Even if a
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: guy like Cameron mcgrown eventually comes along and emerges here
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: down the stretch at some point, the speed that they
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: can put on the field now, I think is what
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: they're hoping is going to allow them to be a
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: little bit better at defending some of these teams. And
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: I look at a guy like Alan and what the
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Bills do. They have really adopted a spread style in
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: Buffalo with their offense, their three wide, their shotgun all
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: the time. They don't really have an under center run
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: package or play action package that they use or major in.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Now you start to get into some of the things
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: that they do with their spread. It puts a lot
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: of a lot of stress on the second level. And
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: I listened to Mike Lombardi all the time talk about
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: the mic linebacker position, and that's really the guy that
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: sets the speed or sets the tone in terms of
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: your pace of your defense. And in the past, the
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: Patriots have had two hundred and fifty five two hundred
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: and sixty pound mic linebackers like a high Tower or Bentley,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: and at some point in time they have to evolve
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: with what they're seeing. And we always know that Belichick
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: tends to have a great eye for these sort of things,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: and hopefully now is the time when he's finally going
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: to take that next step and realize we got to
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: do something different here because the league is going one
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: direction that is not the plotting two gapping. Let's fill
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: the whole linebacker. Yeah, you mentioned, you know, you talked
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: about Mac and what Bill had said and what the
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: players are saying about him. Does he have enough weapons
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: on this offense? Well, I think for him, the emphasis
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: is going to be on spreading the football around. And
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: we've heard Brady say that for years as well, that
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: the guy I'm thrown to is the open man, right,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: And I think that is really going to be an
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: emphasis this year for Mac. I think last year at
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: times they are having him be a little bit too
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: conservative just to protect the football. It's when you know
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: the turnover battle, let's not throw interceptions. This year, I
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: would like to see him be a little bit more
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: trigger happy sometimes and throw the football down the field
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: with a little bit more aggressiveness and then hopefully their
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: depth takes over. That's what they're going to have to
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: count on. They don't have a Davante Adams, they don't
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: have a Tiree Hill, but they have a receiving group
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: that can go five or six deep. They have two
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: tight ends that can catch the football and do some things.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: They have guys out of the backfield that can do
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: some things. So you look at the depth and just
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: the sheer numbers that they can throw at teams, hopefully
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: they'll have an ability to just spread the football around
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: and what do you take away? Right? You take I agree,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: I think they've got enough good depth. I mean, they
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: don't have any superstar, but I think they have enough
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: good depth to keep defenses on their heels as long
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: as the playbook has opened up and Mac, like you said,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: isn't nitive, you know, gets rid of the ball on time.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: I'm I people know on this show, I'm bullish on
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: this offense. Yeah, me too. I really think it's going
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: to be a better than people think offense. I wonder
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: almost if his interception totals spike a little bit, like
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: go up a little bit. If it's okay because he's
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: taken the chance. Okay, they'll get a couple of touchdowns. Yeah,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: but we might get you know, a couple of bombs
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: to to. I don't know Taekwon Thord and maybe that's
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: that's a good one too. Have we've talked about a
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: little bit of you know, expectations for Tae Kwon Thorne
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: as a second round receiver who clearly is fast. Um,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: but as you said, and you know, we've said, there's
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: so much depth there and it's not like, oh, here's
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: the depth, but there's you know, legitimate NFL players above him,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: and you know, do you I've been asking myself, am
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: I selling him short? Like? Am I not even really
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: giving him a chance? Am I just assuming that he's
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: a year one rookie role player who three four plays
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: a game. He's gonna go out, They're gonna take a
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: shot to him. You know, it's it's Bethel Johnson, it's
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: Matthew Slater when they didn't have any exactis right? If
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: he's even act you know? So is that selling him shorts?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: You think? I mean, I mean that's why I just
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: don't want to lower him expectations because in any other year,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: I think a second round wide receiver who was the
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: fastest guy in the draft, you'd have some expectations, and
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: I feel like I don't really have any expectations for him,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: at least this year. Yeah, they have the ability this
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: year with Taekwon to put as much speed on the
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: field offensively as they've had in recent seasons. Because Aglare
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: runs a low four four Tae Kwon's four to eight.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, those two guys alone are a lot faster
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: than some of the other players that they've had over
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: the last couple of years. And we also know that
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: Kendrick Boring, even though he did it time great when
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: he came out, he plays a lot faster than maybe
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: what the forty time would suggest. So for me, I'm
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: not ready to say that Tae Kwon Thornton's gonna have
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: eight hundred yards and as a rookie or anything crazy
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: like that. But just his speed alone, I think can
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: impact a defense where it's worth it to have him
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: out there, even at a small percentage of the time,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: because when you start talking about not only vertically stretching
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: the field, but maybe his ability to horizon. He stretched
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: the field at times, whether it's setting him in motion
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: before the snap. Yeah, just any sort of crossing pattern
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: after the snap that he can run. And then obviously
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: the verticals we saw it in mini camp. He just
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: sometimes he just runs by people. And when's the last
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: time that the Patriots had a receiver, probably Brandon Cooks,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: that you could sit here and say, oh, he just
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: ran by the guy, Like it's you know, I get
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: into the minutia, the xs and os, and sometimes it's
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: like he's just the other guy and we ride up
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: across from him. And I think that for the first
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: time since probably Cooks. Not to put too much expectations
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: on him, but I think they have somebody that can
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: at least run by people. Let's see about the other
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: details of the game, but from that point of view, yeah,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: do you think it's like as a coach when you've
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: got a player like that, like you have to kind
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: of plan to like put it in defense's minds that
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: he can run by people. So you know, get it
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: on film, like all right in the preseason or whatever,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: we're gonna run a go with him, and you gotta
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: hit it. And then that way everyone's talking about it.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: And then you know, because if you just kind of
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: bust him out, he doesn't really work because a decoy,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: he works only if you hit the path play. So
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know just strategically, how do they how do
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: they roll them out? And and and I think I think,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: I think whether it's him or Agal or it's just
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: the threat of the long pass, ye whoever it is,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: you know, like they could go down field. We have
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: to defend that, you know, And I go back. You know,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: one of my pet peeves is, you know, I forget
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: which player might have been somebody from the both the
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: Patriots are easy to defend. Yeah, I'd never heard that
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: before in twenty eight years. So we got to get
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: that out of you know, the lexicon. Do you have
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: any sleeper picks for camp guys? I like, in camps,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: somebody somebody no one's expecting to emerge and he's going
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: to sneak up on people. Well, we were talking about
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: earlier Mike sam Roberts, who's another rookie, but him and
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Lebrian Ray, the DFA from Alabama that they signed. Just
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: another big body on the defensive line that can hold
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: up at the point of attack. I think would pay
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: real big dividends for this defense they got. Times last
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: year they had struggles resetting the line of scrimmage, holding
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage up front, and maybe they get
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit more aggressive and allow guys to start
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: teeing off and shoot gaps and things like that and
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: more of like a single gap system. But if they're
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: going to stick with this two gap, if they're going
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: to try to hold and build that wall, so to speak,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: and they're going to need another guy that can do
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: that and be steady on the inside. So I'm looking
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: at some of these younger defensive line and see if
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: they can hold up once we get into pads and
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: see how those things go. Other than that, I would,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: you know mention. I know it's not necessarily a sleeper,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: but a guy like Trey Nixon I think really is
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: going to continue to build upon the spring because you
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: try not to get too caught up in the nonpadded
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: practices and in mini camps and these passing camps that
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: are essentially no contact, no pass rush at times. But
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: you look at the way that he can run routes
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: from the slot and his ability to actually stretch the
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: field from the slot on slot fades or the big
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: route that he was running in mini camps, the corner
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: ball from Mac Jones and those types of routes Mac
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: lived on at Alabama. You know, you put a condensed split,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: or put Davonte Smith in the slot or Jalen Waddle
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: in the slot, and you just have him get vertical.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: And Mac has a really nice touch, deep throw that
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: he can just drop it in the bucket along the
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: sideline to guys. I think that that throw is definitely
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: more in max repertoire. And last year we saw a
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: couple hunter Henry Jacoby Myers. I think they used a
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: little bit on those phades, and it's just those twenty
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: to twenty five yards shot plays down the field from
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: the in tight formations that allow him to kind of
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: just lay it out there for guys. Whereas when you're
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: trying to throw a go ball along the sideline and
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: he's going from the other hash like that might be
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: the throw that's a little bit tougher for him to
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: throw forty fifty yards down the field, but you drop
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: it in the bucket. Whether it was a wheel route
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: to a running back, whether it was one of those
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: phades from inside. Mac has a really pretty ball there.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: So I think that a guy like Trey Nixon can
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: maybe add that element as well. So, you know a
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: lot of media people saying Patriots are going to completely
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: revamped their offense. It's going to be a completely different revamp,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: you know, offense this year. I'll believe it when I
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: see it. I mean, there's gonna be new elements, I'm sure,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: But like I'd be shocked if, like all of a sudden,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: Mac is running RPOs and you know, we've we see
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: a completely different offense that we've seen. You know what,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: do you think I would love to see Mac run RPOs?
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: This is one thing that I've been harping on since
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: they drafted him at Alabama. Eleven point nine yards per
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: attempt on RPOs, eleven touchdowns to zero interceptions. Him and
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: DeVante Smith, especially who obviously won the Heisman Trophy probably
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: catching forty balls off of RPOs slants just absolutely tore
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: it up on those types of concepts with Mac, He's
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: a great decision maker. He throws a good anticipation accuracy
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: to lead guys into yak and lead guys into opportunities
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: to run with the football. So those types of packages
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: I think are something that they need to So you
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: think they might, I think they will. I don't think
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: that it's ever going to be something they're going to
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: lead the league in necessarily. And last year they were
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: the last they were lowest him on in the league. Yeah, like,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: I don't even they've ran any like a couple but yeah,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there was a couple of players that
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: had sort of like what would you call package plays
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: where it's it's attached to it, but it's really not
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: the goal of the play. It's it's only if Mac
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: pre snap gets the exact look that they're looking for,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: which they ran with Brady at times too. But I
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: talked to Josh McDaniels about it last year. I asked him,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: I said, you know, what about RPOs, Like, do you
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: guys think about that? Do you guys think about installing that?
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: And he said, it's not something that we major in,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: and I you know, now that he's not here, I'm like,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: maybe you know, you do it a little bit more often.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: And with Joe Judge's experience with with Daniel Jones, I
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: mean they you know, they did a little bit too.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a it's a key way.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: And you know, if Paul was here, I can hear
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: what he would be saying about the RPOs. But I
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: really think that the RPOs lean into if you have
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: receivers that maybe aren't the fastest or most dynamic, that
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: it helps that it helps guys get open quicker because
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: they're going to be right no matter what happens. So
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: I look at it as a way, like Evan said,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: I agree, I'd love to see that be an element.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: I just think the bigger question right now is that
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: d shanahan offense is all build off the wide zone
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: run and everything comes off of that. We saw a
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: ton of it in OTAs. Is that what's coming as
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: like the base, they're going to be kind of like
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: the Broncos used to be, where it's wide zoe wide zone,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: you know, bootleg out off of it. Those kind of
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: things that everything that McDaniel did with Debo as well.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they go that far, but I
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: think the RPOs it just makes sense. As Evan laid
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: out with Mac. I think it's what he does well.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: I think. So tell me what makes a good RPO quarterback?
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: Decision making I think is the biggest thing, and that ability,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: I mean too is one of the best in the
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: league added and his ability to make those quick, split
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: second decisions and get the football out where the disinvantage
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: is for the defense. I think the number one buzzword
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: that I always hear is conflict. Right, you always want
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: to be putting the defense in conflict making. Guys make
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: decisions where there's no right answer, whether that it's a
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: post route by a receiver and it's you know, post crosser,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: and it's like do I take the post or do
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: I take the crossing route? Like which one do I defend?
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: If I'm the deep safety. Devin mccordy talks about it
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: all the time. He gets put into conflict at that
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: post safety role constantly, and he's always making decisions about
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: what's the biggest threat, and conflict is what you want
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: to put defenses into attack. Their rules know their responsibilities
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: and kind of reverse engineer it to go after them.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: And that's what the RPO accomplishes in a really simple way.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: For the offense, it's it's a run play for the back,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: it's a run play for the line, it's a pass
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: play for the receivers in the quarterback, and everybody can
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: understand their assignments pretty easily. But the defense is never
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: right if you run it correctly. They're literally never correct.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: And that's the big thing about it. You know, where
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: did RPOs emerge? Like what was kind of like we've
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: heard about, you know, West Coast offense, we've heard about
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: you know, run option obviously Oklahoma nebrassmen running that for decades,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: but RPO, Like, where did that come from? Yeah? The
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: college game. Most of the college coaches that start everything
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: that for the most part, those types of innovations always
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: trickle up, right. It sometimes always starts all the way
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: in high school. The college game, though, I would say
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: the guy that really brought it to a big time
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: program was Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma. He was sort of
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: the first one to bring it to the Power five
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: right and say this is actually something that we're gonna
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: major in and do regularly, and then you started to
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: get into it, you know, Joe Brady and the LSU
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: and that year with Joe Burrow it became big there.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: And now Alabama even runs it with all their quarterbacks
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: with Mac obviously in two AH and now as well.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: So you look at some of all of the things
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: that Alabama are doing too, and you're mentioning the wide
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: zone stuff, the Shanahan tree, they have some elements of
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: that in it. But I think the two biggest things
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: that Alabama does that I would love to see the
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: Patriots adopt and Mac is obviously extremely familiar with it,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: is one the RPOs and two pre snap motions. So
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: the Patriots are a big pre snap shift team. They'll
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: move a guy over here and move a guy over
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: there and allow that to either dictate the defense or
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: give the quarterback and receivers kind of a tell, right, Okay,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: if somebody motions it's man zone whatever. But pre snap
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: motion is jet motion and arounds things where the receivers
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: are the guy coming in motion is moving while the
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: ball is being snapped, and those types of things really
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: stress and statistically it shows that the teams that do
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: it the most are very very good offensively when they
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: do it. Teams like the forty nine ers are at
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: the top of that list as well. So you look
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: at pre snap motion and you start to put defenses
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: again into that conflict of well, now we got to
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: shift over here, and whose responsibility is the motion and
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: is it just window dressing or are they actually going
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: to throw the ball or hand the ball off to
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: that guy? And it starts to just present a lot
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: more problems for the defense. You know, for me, like
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: the RPO, the difference there is instead of giving the
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: quarterback the freedom of deciding pre snap pass or run,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: they're giving the quarterback the freedom post snap pass or run.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: You know, now where I mean, I guess are there
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: is it a simplified read to just one guy? So
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, are you going to have to go through
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: any kind of progression or is it pass to one
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: guy or handoff or sophisticated? Yeah, most of the sophisticated
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: RPOs are basically reading two guys. You're reading the backside
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: defensive end. If he stays put and holds his ground,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: and you're usually going to hand the football off. If
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: he crashes down, then you're going to use some sort
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: of pass, or if you're adding a run element for
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: the quarterback, which the Patriots probably won't be obviously, then
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: you have the quarterback keep it and the edges not
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: being set. The other option that you have is reading
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: the second level and read the linebacker. So it's essentially
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: the same as a play action pass at that point,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: but it just has the real built in option to
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: actually hand the football off to the running back. So
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: you start to think about those RPOs are what their
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: Patriots are going to run. They're not going to run
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: the RPOs with the read option element like what Baltimore
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: does with Lamar right, they're gonna run or you know
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: Arizona with Kyler. They're going to run the RPOs where
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: Mac is usually going to read either the strong side
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: or the weak side linebacker at the second level. If
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: that linebacker steps into his gap, then you're passing it
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: right by his ear. If that linebacker stays back in
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: the passing lane, then Damian Harrison Romandre Stevenson are coming
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: down your throat. And that's sort of the idea of
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: the conflict. Ethan and Vermont writes in Fred just want
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: to say what a great hire Evan is. Who would
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: have thought you'd replace Eric with someone who actually loved
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: and can talk football. Great stuff so far, looking forward
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: to the camp broadcast, assuming Evan will be on air
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: with you at times. You know, right now we're trying
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: to get Eric Evan. You got confused getting a similated
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: with the place. You know, his main duty is the beat,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: you know. Um, but he will be film film out
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: analysis too, obviously that's what he does. Great. I've got
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: to make sure to play into his so I don't
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: want to overwhelm him by giving him everything on day one.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: But you'll hear from him, whether it's on this show
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: or in addition to this show, his own. We'll figure
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: that out. Yeah, it's all day two. Yeah, yeah, Day two.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: Let's get to some phone calls. Um, see what people
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: are thinking. We'll go to Robin and Birmingham. What's up Robin? Hey, everybody? Y,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: I am a first time caller, but long time listener. Okay,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: and um well, I just wanted to call in because
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: I m am on maternity leave, actually have a baby
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: on the day of the draft, and so I have
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: not been able to listen to any of the podcasts. Um.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: I know Eric left because I thought on Facebook. Um,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: I was just wondering if y'all could just give me
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: a I don't like, a quick recap of the summer
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: or maybe like any players drafted you'll were excited about. No, well,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: let's cut. I mean, you know, you know, we'll do
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: a special show for you, Robin. But but you know,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: I think we're all excited about you know, um, well,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know excited is the word. But we're confident
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: in Cole Strange, like he's gonna come in and he's
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: gonna be fine. Yeah, you know, I would just say generally,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a whole lot to really tie
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: your wagon to in terms of free agency in the draft,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: I think it's I'm excited Parker certainly little pieces, but
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: I think the main core of this team is about
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: the year two of Mac and year two of all
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: those free agency signed two years ago, and what strides
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: do they take and that you know, and of course
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: you're gonna need Davante Parker and Cole Strange to contribute.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: But I think really how this team does is going
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: to be about last year's free agency class and the
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: last few drafts of guys that have gotten an opportunity
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: and of course that the headline is is MAC and bbin.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: Do you use um bar soap or do you use um?
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: The words out of my mid Yeah, when you don't
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: have to listen to seven shows about soap on a rope.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: What kind of soap do you use in the shower?
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Liquid or bar lufa liquid? Okay, all right, all right,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: thank you, congratulations on your baby. How about you evan
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: liquid soap or bar soap? Bar soap bar soap? What
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: do you do with the wafer when you get down
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: to the end. I use it all the way through,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: I know, but how yeah, what do you mean? How
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: is there a way to use it properly? Well, you
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: get to that moment of the little sliver and you're
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: rubbing it on your arm or other body part, and
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden it just evaporates and you're like,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: I did it. I use the whole bar of soap. Yeah,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: that's it's really satisfying. You never thought like, wow, instead
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: of using this little crummy piece of soap, I might
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: have another new bar of soap with I don't know,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: to slide that in and you put it on top
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: of you like press it together, like these bars are
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: soap you don't even know the rabbit hole you're going
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: down right now. These bar get it too that later
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: next off season Williams and Philham William hung up. William
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: hung up. That's that's too bad. Let's get to some
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: of these emails that are coming in. Johnson is in
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: Porter's Lake Nova, Scotia. He says, I'm not sure if
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: this has been discussed lately, but the coaching titles announced
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: last week. I've seen many YouTube experts and he's got
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: those that in quotes claiming the Patriots are in trouble
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: without the fine roles. Do you think that the no
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: OCDC thing is for real or is this some contractual
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: solid our organization is doing to help Patricia paid by
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: the lines through twenty twenty two and Judge making five
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: million a year through twenty twenty five. I don't really
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: understand it for the defensive side, but looking for any insight,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, Brian Floraz didn't have a title. I mean,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: it has happened. It has happened, and they have had
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: years without titles, but I do think it's significant. I'm
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: getting sick of it though, because I think ultimately a
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: boy down to Bill and Mac and you know, I think,
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: you know, play calling is an art to it. You
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: want somebody who's experienced. How's it going to play out?
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: We'll find out, But I still just them, Like I
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: think Tommy Kerran tweeted out today that was just like
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: all right, I think I'm over this because every time
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: we're asking about it, we'll find out. We'll see in
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: the next we'll find out. But could it be the
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: contract situation where as soon as you make them, you
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: give them the title, then something kicks in with Detroit
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of specul giant of that that
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: this is a way that they're saving money and saving
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: them from having to meet with the with the with
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: the media. Although I thought Matt Patricia was awesome when
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: he talked to us over Mini Camp, I mean, just
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: you know, really really forthcoming, and you know, hopefully that continues.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'd love to continue to be able, especially
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: if he's heavily involved in the offense. I don't think
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: anybody knows right now, but I think, I mean, I
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: think Joe Judge is going to be beside on Max
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: side his sounding board, but I think it very well
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: could be Patricia as the one who's calling the plays
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: and you know, let Billy Yates worry about the offensive
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: line on game days. I don't think that that's what
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: do you think, Evan? What's I mean? Are you as
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: concerned summon the media as the offensive coaching situation? Well,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming the YouTube expert was a shot at me
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: for my former employers, think so, yeah, maybe that was me.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is what Mike was just
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: saying is to me that process that you just outlined,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: Joe Judge working with Mac shoulder to shoulder in the
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: weeds with him every single day out of practice in
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: the film room and install all that type of stuff.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: And then they get to Sunday and here comes Matt
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: Patricia calling plays that it spells. It's like a game
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: of telephone, right, like the Lost in Translation. I think
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: can happen really easily when it's one guy in your
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: ear for five days and then the sixth day you
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: come to Sundays and it's Matt Patricia calling the plays. Now,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: the one theory that I've heard floated that I do
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: think might end up being what it is is that
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: Belichick might actually be the one that is hand picking. Okay,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: we're going to run here, we're gonna pass here, and
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: then they're gonna have, as they do every week in
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: the game plan, you know, fifteen pass plays that they
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: like against this defense. And then maybe it will be
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: up to Matt Patricia or Joe Judge to pick the
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: exact play that they're going to run. So maybe the
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: Bill could probably do it without a play sheet, right, right,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: So you wouldn't even know if he's doing that, right.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: So Scott's Ole said this on the radio a few
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: weeks ago about how that's how it worked with under
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Bill Parcels for a while when they were still working
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: out who was going to be the OC for the
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: Patriots back then when Zoe was on the team and
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: he said that, Parcels would say, let's go run, run
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: pass here, let's go pass, run, let's go you know
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: up right, we're all in two minute. Let's let's pass
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: the football, you know, all the way down the fields here,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: and then it would be up to the assistant to
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: then hand pick which exact plays out of the hat
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: that they're going to pull to run. But to me
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: that if you're going to rpl then you throw that
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: out the window. Right. The biggest thing is run pass. Yeah,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: you just want to make sure that the messaging is
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: sustinct to him and that he's the one that's comfortable
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: with what they're actually calling. On Sundays, the last thing
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: that you want is them to call a play and
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: then Mac to get back to the side and then
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: be like, I don't like that play? Why are we
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: running that play? The quarterback should like every play that
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: you run, and that's going to think be the hardest
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: challenge if it is Matt Patricia, Yeah, I agree. I
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: think you got to have the same voice throughout the week.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: You can't switch it up. Now if it's Patricia, right,
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: does he do it from the sideline or does he
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: do what some OC's do and do it from upstairs?
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, quite Frankly, I don't understand how
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: OC's do it from the sideline. Yeah, it really does.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: Like it doesn't compete with me, because if you can't
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: see the twenty two players on the field and how
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: the defensive structure is lining up and things like that,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: it's remarkable that so many good ocs do it from
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: the sideline. And you even talk about play callers that
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: are head coaches like Kyle Shanahan, or Sean McVay. They're
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: obviously on the sidline, and I get the the personal
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: in your face that you can get with the quarterback,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: and you can sit down on the bench as we
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: saw it for years with McDaniels sitting next to Brady,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: sitting next to mac cam going over you know, stills
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: and things like that. So I get that element of it.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: But in terms of actually understanding what's going on schematically,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know how they do it by just standing there,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: but I'm sure there's advantages to both. Did you ever
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: ask Josh about that? I have, I never did, but
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: maybe we have that opportunity, hopefully to talk to Patricia
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: or a judge who end up getting the responsibility down
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: the road, and we can ask that question. Yeah, I
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: mean on the sideline, maybe you know, you get more
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: of a feel, You hear what people are saying. You know,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: you can you know, I'm I'm beating this guy or
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: you know whatever. I'm sure. I'm sure, like you said,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: you know, different guys do it different ways, and there's
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: advantages to both. But you would think looking down and
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: being able to see, yeah, it's a field. It's just
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: a weird experience. I think like calling a game and
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: the energy on the sidelines and you know, just everything
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: that goes on there, and then to be kind of
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: in a you know, clean environment up in a press
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: box where it can be quiet. I mean, it's even
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: weird for me in the press box when it's like
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: people are you know, you're watching a football game. You
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: don't even realize there's seventy thousand people right in front
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: of um. Then I was just interesting when you decide
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: to make that transition of because I think most you know,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: people coming up you high school football, everybody's you know,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: mostly on the sidelines. So yeah, I don't know it'll
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: be I mean, but I think it'll be interesting because
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: you'll get a good sense of, you know, his mappetrishi
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: on the sideline because that's where the offensive line coach
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: always was talking in the offensive line. You can't but
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: last year he was the advisor, so that was up top,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: That's for sure. You can't coach the old line from
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: up top, right, So if you're gonna do both, you
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: gotta be down on the field unless you hand over
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: to your assistant, you know, Billy Yates, uh, you know,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: on game day. So I don't know but that's I mean,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: that's what we all eyes on. Whoever puts a headset on, well,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: they're all gonna have headsets on, I'm telling you right now.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, like even the dude's just running around getting
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: water and like running cones around, Da've got heads Yeah,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: it's like you know which which Limo is the President?
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Not gonna know right? Uh? Nates in Chicago? What's up? Nate? Hey, guys,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: how we doing good? Good? You know, as a Patriots
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: fan that lives in Chicago. Right when I thought I
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: got rid of nikkil Harry unbelievable, I had a couple
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: of questions about a couple of free agents and just
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: thought I'd ask your guys thoughts, one being a getting
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: some depths on the defensive line. What if you guys
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: had any thoughts and Carl Massif, I know he's not
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: gonna be a player that's gonna you know, you know,
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: ruin any games. It's not you know, really gonna destroy
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: any offensive lines, but just to add depth and have
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: another piece as a rotational player. Another another question I
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: had was about an undrafted player out of stone Hill,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: Massachusetts who's playing in the Fan Run League, Andrew Jamil
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: as like a quick footed Splott receiver. And I just
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  Speaker 1: wondering if you guys had any spots on those two players,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: and if you think there might be a spot for them.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: Are they still doing that fan run league that that
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: they the fans call the plays right or control of football? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: I think I report from Mike Greece today saying that
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: they tried him out right. Yeah. I used to really
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: like Anthony Sherman. Wow, good for him. I don't know
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: what was the first guy they asked about Massive Yeah,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean he's been around
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: a while. Yes, I've always thought he was kind of
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: kind of in their prototype size of you know, outside
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: linebacker edge kind of a guy um. And I think
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: that they're light at that position. So I mean I
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: I kind of like, hey, Trey Flowers would make sense,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: But I just I don't think they got a lot
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: of Speaking of free agents, Sean writes in from Vancouver,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: what do you think the chances are that the Patriots
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: would bring back the following players Trey Flowers, Nate Solder,
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: or Danny Shelton. Danny Shelton signed somewhere this week, did
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: they yes with Carolinas who we up here too, Um,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: I could Flowers? Yeah, I mean, I think Solder would
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: be like an injury, but I think that an injury
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: is certainly possible. But I think he's he's probably done.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: They moved into the right side too, didn't they. Ye,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: he's been one of slow tackles for I know everyone
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: loves every union, but I think Trey Flowers is the
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: guy just in terms of, you know, getting one more
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: veteran edge guy who you know probably still has some
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: some football on him. Uh. Tayshaun writes in I'd like
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: to play a game of would you rather we like
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: games on this show? Um? These are purposely over dramatic.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: He says, would you rather see nikkil Harry lead the
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: league in receiving or the Patriots go oh and seventeen? Yeah?
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: Come on? Would you rather make it to the super
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: Bowl but Mac is a game manager through the process,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: or miss the playoffs? But Mac has an amazing second
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: year jump and leads the league in QB stats the
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Yeah, make the super Bowl. If he's in
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, he's he's a pretty damn good game manager.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: So I'll take that. And then Bill's just flexing on
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: everybody Yeah. Would you rather a high powered offense that
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: scores on every drive, but your defense lets up a
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: score every drive, or a high powered d that only
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: allows field goals but the offense is terrible. I'd probably
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: go the offense. I think, Yeah, that's just paint. If
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: the defense just went lights out and we could not
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: score to save our lives, there's nothing more infuriating. Yeah,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the state of the league, though.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: I mean I just I feel like that's you're You're
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: not too far from the truth, Like you just you
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: need those offense. I don't know what defense is like
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: shutting down everybody anymore. Would you rather win the Super
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: Bowl this year but Bill retires, or keep Bill another
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: seven years but you never get deep in the playoffs.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: I'll stop it. Super Bowl right now? Yeah? Yeah, Bill
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: on top and then you move on. Yeah. Sure. And
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: a silly one he says, would you rather lose both
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: arms but you're a billionaire, or keep both arms but
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: you go bankrupt and lose everything you can always rebuild, ye,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: keeping the arms? Man some crazy stuff at Boston Dynamic
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: about to say, if I'm a billion yeah, give me
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: a couple of arms. Yeah. So I don't know that's
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: a good question. Maybe not as silly as he thought
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: it was to begin with. But the Super Bowls, let's
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: go to Todd, North Carolina. I hate Todd. Hey, I
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: was listening early on and I really liked your question
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: about who do you think he'll be surprised? And I
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be our entire linebacking corps. I think
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: we've got some young talents in there that hasn't had
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: a real chance to see the field, and I think
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: that we might get some surprises there, you know, I
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: mean good surprises, not a bad one. Okay, I hope
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: you're right. If you're wrong, we're in trouble. I mean, well,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, I'll buy you. I'll buy you guys lunch. There.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: You go that that you know they have to be
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: better than they were last year, I mean, well, but yeah,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: it's a whole new lineup. We don't even know what
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: we have. I mean, I mean the play from that,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: you know that that core has to be better than
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: it was last year. Yeah, but I don't think it's
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: a whole new lineup. I mean, I think Judon and
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: Bentley are are significant pieces, you know, I mean it's
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: not every single guy is new, but I but I
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: think there's I think you do have a good point,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: and I would just say of that next group of McMillan,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: of Wilson, of Ouch, of Perkins, of like two of
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: those guys have to be able to play. And I
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: don't really care if josh Ucha is just a third
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: down pass rusher, but if he's able to pick up
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: seven eight sacks and give teams something else to think
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: about other than let's just get you down off the
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: back and make sure we got an eye on bar
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: More up the middle, like they need that complimentary piece.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: I think the question is who plays on early downs,
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: who's going to stop the run? I don't and again
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: I'm trending away from like really passionately worrying about the
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: run defense. But I do think it's an issue of
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: who's going to step out there on an idiots. I mean,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: if you play this dollar defense that you were talking about, Evan, Yeah, okay,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: and you have a good running back, I'm gonna run
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: it down your throat until you stop it, right, you know.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: But that's what the Patriots to the Chargers right first
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: drive of the game. They go fifteen plays Sony Michelle
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: right down your throat, James Devlin leading through the whole right,
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: was all she wrote. So forever reaction, there is an
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: equal or better reaction. Well that's you bring that up, Evan.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: I'm just sorry, Todd. Did you have another question? Yeah?
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: I actually I don't really count Judean as our part
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: of our linebacker core. He's almost always on the edge,
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: isn't he not? Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, he's got a second
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: level and he's definitely a hand in the dirt linebacker. Yeah,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: but you know more than that. Yeah, I think it's
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: hard because Van Noyon and how both did inside and outside,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: so you kind of just count them. I mean, it's
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: certainly more a little bit divide it up. But I
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: wanted to say because you brought that up, and it
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: was a question in the mail back today of I
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: think like when the Patriots drafted Sony Michelle, it seemed
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: like the direction they were going was, all these defenses
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: are getting smaller to defend the pass. We're going to
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: run a fullback, We're going to pound it down their throat.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have a deep stable of running backs. And
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: the question was, you know, kind of asking me about
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: that of you know, Damian Harris is going to be
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: free age, and why don't you just continue to resign
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: him and try to do this? And I'm like, it
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: sounds great in theory that you would be able to
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: do that, but it hasn't been effective, especially in the
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: most you know, critical games other than plus the sad
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: eighteen playoff run. Once he gets to a second contract,
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay him, right and then you know, so,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't think that's the big
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: part of it, because anyth they've got a stable and
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: unless he was something super special, I don't. I don't
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: see it. But is that the direction they're really trying
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: to go? And you know, what do you think, like
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: now getting rid of the fullback, does that kind of say,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: all right, we tried that. We still need a stable
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: of backs, but we're not going to try to be
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: the team that we're going to just out tough everybody
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: because our run game is so good. I think unless
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: you got Derrick Henry, it's hard. It's hard to I think,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I forget which player had said, or it
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: might have been a coach on the team. You know,
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: when you play, when you've got the fullback out there
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: kind of dictates what you're doing, you know, or else
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: he's just a guy, you know out there. So they
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: want to be more versatile on offense. It's like your
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: gut time ongomery a little bit instead of you know,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: instead of Yaka being out there, maybe you got time ongomery.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: You're moving him around, yeah, and doing some of that stuff.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: Barton Poland writes in he said, firstly, I want to
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: say I'm very happy with the Evan news. He was
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: one of my favorite follows on Twitter and hearing him
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: on PEU was awesome. Now my question is it possible
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: that the backup situation may have been one of the
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: factors in when in Brown change sides this season. He's
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: talking about tackles. Harran is very serviceable left tackle, but
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: he's literally unplayable at right tackle. If Brown gets hurt,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: he can just slide in at left tackle, and when
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: if Winden gets hurt, Brown can move to right tackle
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: where we know he's comfortable and we don't have to
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: play her on there. Last year he was just plugged
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: on the right side as Winn hasn't really played there.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: But now with him having the whole season off and
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: with a natural right tackle playing left tackle, we don't
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: have to put her on on the right side. Of course,
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: it probably wasn't the main reason of the change, but
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: do you think the Haran situation may have had some
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: influence the factor? Certainly. I mean it's a good point
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: about Justin Haran that he played left tackle in college,
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: looks more comfortable playing left tackle, and you talk to
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman about it, and it's they say, here's a pen.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: Now right with your left hand if you're a right hand,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: right with your right hand if you're lefty, and see
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: how good you do. It's a little bit like that
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: because everything is backwards right, you're inside hands now outside,
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: your inside foots now outside. So it is a little
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: bit different, certainly. But I think the main factor for
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: moving Trent Brown to the left side is actually Cole Strange.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: I think they want to have two stable veterans in
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: David Andrews and Trent Brown on either side of Cole Strange.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: And with Isaiah Wayne, especially the way that he played
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: at times last year and the start that he got
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: out too, and all those types of things, I think
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: that they're looked at the situation with Michael a Wenu,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: who really didn't take that step that they were kind
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: of expecting last year and end up putting Ted Harrison
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: to the starting lineup. And they want to make this
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: as comfortable for a guy like Cole Strange as possible
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: to be able to come in and start right away
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: as a rookie. So I think it's a big factor
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: that they put Trent over there knowing that they're they're
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: probably their best two linemen, or David Andrews and Trent Brown,
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: and now you put those two guys on either side
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: of the rookie I really, I really wonder if we
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: can get beat out by somebody, and I don't know who.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: Trying to light a fire a win's ass. Yeah, well,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: I mean it's his last year of his contract. I
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: know they're better be a fire already. But I mean,
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: even talking to Andy Hard a little bit this this offseason,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: we're both kind of like man Stuper's kind of like
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: got that mold of a big, you know, right tackle
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: type guy. I mean, I mean he hasn't even been
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: able to get on the field. He's on NFI now,
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: So I my ship might have sailed with that, But
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: I do wonder if Win is susceptible to getting knocked out,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: especially at right tackle, which is not like a position
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: that you know, is all that like demanding in the grants.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: You better worry about right tackle now because Von Miller
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: is coming off right the Buffalo for two games, maybe
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: a third in the playoffs, and he's a guy that
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: there are a few guys. They're not many, but there
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: are a few guys that definitely prefer to play over
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: the right tackle and Von is one of them. So
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: he's going to be right in your kitchen, Isaiah Win,
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: come come late. It was at December first, I think
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: is that first game against Buffalo. But I think it
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: goes back to your point two Mike about the what's
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: the direction of the offense? Right and Cole strange. Is
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: this athletic offensive lineman tested out of the you know,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: out of the gym at the combine nine nine percentile,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: you know, nine point nine raz all that kind of stuff,
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: and you start to think about the direction of the offense,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: and you were talking about is running the football really
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: the way to go? And I think you look at
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: that playoff game against Buffalo, and that was the first
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: perfect example that I can come to of you are
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: basically in like a model T and Josh Allen's in
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: the Tesla and you're trying to keep up with him
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: in this run first Jacob Johnson fullback style offense and
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: as much as you can come up with the formula
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: where you control the clock and grind out possessions and
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: ultimately at the end of the day you need to
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: execute a passing. Yeah, I mean, last year could have
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: all have been about Mac just like let's ease him in,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: and this year they gotta let him loose. All right,
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: Well that's gonna be it for the show. What do
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: you think, Alex, You think he knows the stuff? I
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: think he does. Yeah, all right, so we'll we'll be
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: back tomorrow now, just programming note, the show will start
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: at nine fifteen tomorrow. It'll be a live show from
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: camp and the show will last throughout practice or until
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: we get bored, and we'll do that Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: and Saturday. We're gonna be live at practice starting at
• 1:59:17
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