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Saints Minicamp Standouts, Secondary Focus & Cam Jordan Return with Mike Triplett · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 2: By New Orleans Saints coverage with some mattlibs mixed in.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't you just go by mic?
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  Speaker 2: It's time to talk black and Gold with a Mike
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  Speaker 2: Triplett of New Orleans Dot Football. Presented by Benny's car Wash,
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that reminds me, I gotta go by Benny's because
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  Speaker 1: I got I got my new vehicle, so I gotta
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  Speaker 1: get the sticker for the wash club membership.
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  Speaker 3: I need to do that.
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  Speaker 1: so I gotta get them the end. Hey, Mike, how are you?
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  Speaker 3: You don't just show up at benny then they like
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  Speaker 3: just recognize you, like Norm from tears and just.
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  Speaker 1: Uh okay, so I mean something, yes, yes, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: usually it's like a right, here's the thing in Baton Rouge.
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  Speaker 1: our primary demo is twenty five fifty four, but it
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  Speaker 1: like eighteen.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Generally in this town, they they are familiar with. They
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  Speaker 1: see the bald head, beard, the whole thing, and they're
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  Speaker 1: like scone. So I'll pull into Benny's and there's always
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  Speaker 1: you know, the guys pushing the button or whatever, you know,
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  Speaker 1: putting the tape on the back and so yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: they generally do. They're very nice and that's awesome and
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  Speaker 1: I but but I still gotta go, Mike. I'm still
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  Speaker 1: gotta go get the sticker for the thing, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like it's a little bar coach. So you pull
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  Speaker 1: up and it's got to read the bar codess. A
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  Speaker 1: little arm goes up. First world problems, man, that's.
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  Speaker 3: To the arm. I mean, no matter how famous you
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  Speaker 3: get the arm camp, I mean, I get the AI.
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  Speaker 3: Now technology's getting better, maybe maybe car car wash arms
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  Speaker 3: will start recognizing you too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean still needs to read the barcode man, so
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  Speaker 1: it's got to be there. Shout out as always good
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  Speaker 1: to hear from you.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of super famous and having lots
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  Speaker 1: of money, Cam Jordan's made by a hund one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars in contracts in his career. He's
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  Speaker 1: going to be back in New Orleans. Scale of one
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  Speaker 1: to ten, Mike, how surprised are you that Jordan's gonna
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  Speaker 1: play another season in New Orleans?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, not surprised at all. If this had happened sooner
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  Speaker 3: in the offseason that I would have, I would have
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  Speaker 3: been like a one to two. But he let it.
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  Speaker 3: He let it go longer than I expected. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: when it lasted into mid June, I thought he either
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  Speaker 3: must have really been insulted by the offer that they
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  Speaker 3: made to him, or he must have really he you know,
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  Speaker 3: started to settle with the idea like maybe I could
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  Speaker 3: live without football and start started to enjoy it. But
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  Speaker 3: at least for the first four or five months of
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  Speaker 3: the offseason, this was the outcome I expected. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: and for all the reasons he said today, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he couldn't really picture himself somewhere else. He couldn't really
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  Speaker 3: walk away. He still loves it too much. He's too competitive.
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  Speaker 3: He loves being at OTAs, he loves being in the
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  Speaker 3: locker room, like this really is his lifeblood. And I
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  Speaker 3: don't think it was about the money. I think it
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  Speaker 3: was about maybe the money was a little insulting, especially
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  Speaker 3: after he had that great season last year and he
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  Speaker 3: was surprised they just made him the same offer again,
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  Speaker 3: and that, you know, after he thought he gave back
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  Speaker 3: a lot last year. I thought he kind of he
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  Speaker 3: thought he'd proved something to them that the offer would
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  Speaker 3: go up. But other than getting past that, everything else
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  Speaker 3: fits here.
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  Speaker 1: You said the word insulted or insulting twice in that answer.
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  Speaker 1: You obviously have covered Cam Jordan for fifteen years. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know him certainly better than I do. Does how
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  Speaker 1: much does that feeling? Right? I mean, guy's going to
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  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Yeah, and and to be I'm
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  Speaker 1: not even to say low ball, because I think it's
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  Speaker 1: actually the appropriate offer. But to not get a better offer,
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  Speaker 1: how do you think Cam Jordan reacted to that?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think probably disappointment would be the prevailing emotion. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, your brain understands that's what happens when you're
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  Speaker 3: thirty seven years old in the league. And even though
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  Speaker 3: he did have the ten plus sacks last year, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it was trending a different direction before that. That was
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  Speaker 3: you know, his brain knows they should not bet on
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  Speaker 3: ten more sacks this year. But you know, one of
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  Speaker 3: his contemporaries is Cam Hayward for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's
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  Speaker 3: still getting twenty million dollars. He's still the face of
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  Speaker 3: that franchise. Like it's just it's tough. Your brain might
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  Speaker 3: understand it, but but you're kind of like I might
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  Speaker 3: be on the mount rushmore of this franchise. Do the
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  Speaker 3: rules have to apply to meat Kiff?
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  Speaker 1: Which is kind of wild mic because the Saints, who
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  Speaker 1: have been a horrible cap team, have showed remarkable discipline
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  Speaker 1: in free agents, especially with their own. Where does that
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  Speaker 1: come from?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it comes from necessity for one thing. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they've been jam so close to the ceiling of the
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  Speaker 3: cap since about two since about the year Kim Jordan's
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  Speaker 3: started playing in the NFL that they've they've had to
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  Speaker 3: they've had they had asked duce McAllister to take a
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  Speaker 3: pay cut. They had to ask uh, Defie Henderson to
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  Speaker 3: take a pay cut. They certainly did it with Marcus Colston.
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  Speaker 3: They had to ask him to take a major pay cut.
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  Speaker 3: They've done with Tyron Matthew, They've done it with the
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  Speaker 3: Mario Davis, They've done it. They're maybe going to do
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  Speaker 3: with Ala Kamara. They've done it with Kim Jordan multiple times.
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  Speaker 3: So they could put everyone under the CAP. It's been
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  Speaker 3: it's been a part of how they've done business. And
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  Speaker 3: I actually think one of the uglier parts of of
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  Speaker 3: of CAP management is going to franchise icons and and
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  Speaker 3: trying to trying to shave a million here and shave
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  Speaker 3: a million there, which ultimately doesn't matter except for what
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  Speaker 3: it represents. So that that has been a big part
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  Speaker 3: of their business model, to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Mike, on the field, where you've got Chase Young, Carl Granderson,
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  Speaker 1: and then you when it added to additional players that position, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what does like, how does Cam fit in and what
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  Speaker 1: what does it mean for the group that he's back
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  Speaker 1: as Mike. You tell me if I'm wrong, But it
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  Speaker 1: certainly looked like they went and added Wilson and Jennings
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  Speaker 1: like with the idea that Cam wasn't going to be.
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  Speaker 3: Back, yeah, I mean it'll be really interesting. And Chris
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  Speaker 3: Rump they re signed as well. There's not there's not
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  Speaker 3: enough room for all those guys, so somebody's not making
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  Speaker 3: the team or you know, injuries could always sort things out.
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  Speaker 3: And the one that's really interesting I think for Cam's
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  Speaker 3: role is in Forney Jennings because his specialty has been
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  Speaker 3: being an edge rusher who's really good at run defense,
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  Speaker 3: and that's Kim's thing. So you know, Tyree Wilson might
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  Speaker 3: be more of a pass rush specialist. Chris Rump is
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  Speaker 3: a lot smaller. He's a six foot two, you know,
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  Speaker 3: outside linebacker for a three four defense. Cam is is
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  Speaker 3: a you know, big defensive end who's who's great against
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  Speaker 3: the run. So I do wonder if this room for
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  Speaker 3: him and Chase Young and Carl Granderson and Infernie Jennings
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  Speaker 3: all to play in the same game. You know, sometimes
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  Speaker 3: this stuff sorts itself out. Not all these guys are
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  Speaker 3: always available all the time. You need depth. But it
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  Speaker 3: will be interesting. I mean, I think his snaps will
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  Speaker 3: have to be affected if both of those guys prove
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  Speaker 3: worthy of making the team.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Triplett, New Orleans doft football at Mike Triplett if
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  Speaker 1: you want to give him a follow. Is there anything
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  Speaker 1: let's say anything, But what is notable worth watching at
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  Speaker 1: mini camp?
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  Speaker 3: Well, obviously everything that takes place in the passing game,
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  Speaker 3: so quarterback, pass catchers, pass defenders, defensive backs, linebackers, and
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  Speaker 3: sometimes then dropping into coverage. You know, all that is
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  Speaker 3: highly competitive, offensive and defensive line and run game is
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  Speaker 3: useless to try to watch. But quarterback timing, quarterback rhythm,
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  Speaker 3: receiver routes, defensive backs. You can make pretty decent judgments
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  Speaker 3: on those guys, for sure, especially when you're talking about
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  Speaker 3: everything we want to see is related to Kellen Moore
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  Speaker 3: installing an offense and Tyler Shuck running it.
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  Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara is someone you mentioned. Do you expect any
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  Speaker 1: update on Kamara? Like before training camp.
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  Speaker 3: I've thrown my expectations out the window because this one
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  Speaker 3: has been so messy and so unique. It's not like
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they've asked. I just said it. They've asked
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  Speaker 3: for two decades. They've asked franchise icons to take pay cuts.
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  Speaker 3: Duce McAllister all the way through to tomorrow, Davis cam Jordan,
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  Speaker 3: It's fine you do that. You cut players. They've cut
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  Speaker 3: franchise icons because it's a cold, hard business, and it's
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  Speaker 3: what are you not even? What have you done for
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  Speaker 3: me lately? What are you gonna do for me next?
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  Speaker 3: But they haven't asked Alvin to take a pay cut.
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  Speaker 3: They're they're handling this so strangely that it's it's they're
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  Speaker 3: kind of like, I don't know, hoping he chooses to
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  Speaker 3: walk away. It's it's weird. They're like they're almost ghosting him.
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  Speaker 3: They were surprised when he showed up last week and
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  Speaker 3: he was like pulling a move on them, like guess
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  Speaker 3: what if you guys aren't gonna call me, I'm just
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  Speaker 3: gonna show up and what are you gonna do about it? Like?
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  Speaker 3: And then today he shows up and they don't. They
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  Speaker 3: don't use him in seven on seven or eleven on eleven, Like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what they're endgame is here. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why they haven't offered him a pay cut yet.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why they haven't cut him yet. And
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  Speaker 3: if they want to keep him, boy, they are letting
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  Speaker 3: the relationship get a little fractured if they plan to
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  Speaker 3: keep him. This is how you treat someone. So I
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  Speaker 3: have no idea. If it's like he's an asset, we
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  Speaker 3: don't want to just cut him, because maybe we'll meet
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  Speaker 3: him in September if there's injuries, or maybe another team
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  Speaker 3: will come calling if they have injuries, and we'll be
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  Speaker 3: glad we held on to them. But otherwise, I have
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  Speaker 3: no idea why they've waited till mid June without even
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  Speaker 3: discussing a new contract with them. They're obviously not going
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  Speaker 3: to keep him in his current contract, that I know
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  Speaker 3: for a fact, but why they haven't even talked to
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  Speaker 3: pay cut or offered a pay cut, I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like you just described the plot to how
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  Speaker 1: to lose a guy in ten days?
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  Speaker 3: It is. I think I made the Police Academy, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Steve Gutenberg trying to get trying to get fired for
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  Speaker 3: the Police Academy because he couldn't quit analogy. But here's
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  Speaker 3: might be better.
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  Speaker 1: Yet it's so weird. What do you think happens?
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  Speaker 3: I think, ultimately I'm still going to predict that he
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  Speaker 3: stays in place for this team because I think he's
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  Speaker 3: the second best running back on the team. I think
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  Speaker 3: he's better than Devin Neil. I think he's better than
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  Speaker 3: other estimate, and they're trying to build a team that
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  Speaker 3: can win the NFC South, So why not why not
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  Speaker 3: have some depth there and have Alvin Kamara as your
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  Speaker 3: one B or you know, capable backup or change a
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  Speaker 3: pace guy in the passing game. So I still keep
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  Speaker 3: thinking that makes sense, but what they've done doesn't make
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  Speaker 3: sense to me. So I don't know if I can
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  Speaker 3: apply logic to the situation.
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  Speaker 1: It's my triplet New Orleans Dot Football at Mike Triplet.
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything else the use of last thing that
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  Speaker 1: you saw today that I haven't asked about that I
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  Speaker 1: should have asked about because you were there and I wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think I think when it comes
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  Speaker 3: to deciding what's going to make or break this team,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's the secondary. I mean injury. It's the
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  Speaker 3: injuries number one. Like I mean, you you know, I
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  Speaker 3: really like their offensive line. They lose any one of
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  Speaker 3: those guys, they're in trouble. You know, the receivers, if
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  Speaker 3: they lose a lot of advertising, they're in trouble. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's what's gonna make or break this team. But as
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  Speaker 3: far as they're healthy players, there's so many question marks
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  Speaker 3: in this secondary. Kolid McKinstry had a really good day
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  Speaker 3: to day. He's had a couple of those. I think
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  Speaker 3: we've liked what we've seen from Yonis Sanker trying to
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  Speaker 3: move into that star position. I think we've liked what
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  Speaker 3: we've seen from Julian Blackman in that deep safety position.
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  Speaker 3: But man, that they all have to work so you
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  Speaker 3: can evaluate them in a passing camp, and i'd so,
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  Speaker 3: I'd say so far it's been a positive ots in
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  Speaker 3: mini camp. Per Sanker in a new job, Julian Blackman
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  Speaker 3: back in that other job, and and Kulid McKinstry is
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  Speaker 3: sort of being the man now with with Alante Taylor gone.
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  Speaker 3: But but those three guys have to, you know, they
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  Speaker 3: have to have a great trading camp. They have to
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  Speaker 3: have a great season because it all kind of falls apart.
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  Speaker 3: If those guys aren't really really good.
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