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Bagman Cometh · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast on a walk-off
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  Wednesday. That's right.
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  Yes sir walk all I'm gonna say I'm Brian Siegel.
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  Yeah, just walk it off. Their Hokies baseball against
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  Liberty got two in the ninth. After going scoreless for eight
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  Innings, that's the way you. It's one of their sluggish
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  midweek games and you can pull those out way to go.
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  It's is a buddy. Matt, Neal always said, it's
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  midweek college, baseball, you never.
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  What is going to happen. And tonight, they couldn't score
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  and they get two in the ninth. The Bases Loaded Goodwin Goodwin
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  going into a big series which we'll discuss in a little while.
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  But buddy, happy hump day. Welcome back to the first time.
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  We've had a show solo since that.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. We haven't ridden.
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  Solo in a wild, man. I almost forgot how to do it.
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  I've got ya. All right though, let's see how
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  this goes, even over the last three months, everybody.
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  That's Come on as guests our buddy Rob e, Compton the white
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  Vic. David Cunningham with text
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  sideline, Jordan Williams, which got a great story about him on a
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  sharing. A second.
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  Who else Mikey Mike, McDaniels? All you got is who came on all
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  sometimes, as always, but I want to hit real quick.
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  Brian about Jordan Williams. He was on with us in a few weeks
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  later. He ran a camp down at Cox.
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  He, I think he mentioned it during the show if he didn't, he
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  definitely was pushing it out on social media and a girl, I went
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  to college with her son, got to go to this camp and she was just
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  raving about how awesome it was how awesome Jordan was.
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  He had guys like T, Higgins down there, helping out with the
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  drills and it made me even happier that we had him on the
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  show, just a few weeks before that.
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  Yeah. I mean, he was hoping that up on
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  social media a lot. I know, I retweeted it and
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  shared it out so it sounds like it was a big hit down there and
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  you know, kudos for him for running that well and being so
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  personal with everybody that showed up for that, it's awesome
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  man. Just doing what he can.
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  And obviously, he got drafted or signed with the dolphins after
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  the draft which is great for him, but man, you talked about
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  like of that, Florida weather. So he's back, he's back down
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  there and in the floor. AA.
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  But I mean when he training in Miami.
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  Yeah. Well he was training down in
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  Florida. I don't know if those Miami but
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  he was training, either way. He didn't have to move too far
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  so great for him and a lot of the other guys will mention a
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  little while as well. But Prime we have so many things
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  to break down. Let's hit some kind of news and
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  notes headlines before we get into the deep stuff and let's
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  start with this. The Fuller Brothers officially
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  have a room. Now, in the Virginia Tech
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  football facility, the defensive back room.
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  Are you shocked by that? Not sure.
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  Why not? Shocked at all.
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  But Vince, Cory Kylie and Kendall make a, I'm guessing a
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  pretty hefty donation to Virginia, Tech to get that.
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  Get that name on there because you don't, you don't pay five,
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  you don't pay six figures for room.
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  Usually pay a lot for and it's awesome.
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  What that families meant to the university to the football
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  program, that that happened. Yes, it's a big moment for them
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  and it just goes to reinforce, you know, the the families, the
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  brothers that that end up playing for the Hokies and it
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  just goes to reinforce that for future Generations.
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  Now, they look at that Fuller room.
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  You know, that's not, that's not named after one brother, that's
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  named after in honor of all four of them.
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  So, Four brothers. And then, one of the statements
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  that Kyle said talking about Coach Prime, the entire staff
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  had made a very concerted effort, connect with the entire
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  lung by base and we feel welcome in Blacksburg.
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  It's awesome to hear that probably made a comment about
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  the tremendous contribution that financially they made to the
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  football program and then this comes out a few days after the
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  reach for excellent goal. Brian.
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  There's a 400 million-dollar gold yet.
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  Five years is the expectation right?
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  Yeah it was it was a five-year timeframe put on the to reach
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  the goal for the fundraising In Your Wildest Dreams.
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  Did you think they would hit halfway right at a year after
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  announce them? I did not I did not think we
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  would be having a Bon Jovi situation already.
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  We're halfway there. We're halfway there.
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  It's wild 400. Dollar campaign, 200 million.
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  The Press was at least was just after the spring game on the
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  28th of February, few days after our last podcast.
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  And I mean, it's the bump, right?
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  I think it's the bump. Yeah, I mean, this is a, it's a
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  athletic wise reaching thing, but I think having what we've
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  had with Coach proc come on, On how he's been on social media,
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  how active he's been in the community, how active he's been
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  at fundraising events. When people get that, people are
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  a hell of a lot more willing to open up their wallets and their
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  checkbooks. Yep, bro.
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  Campaign like this, what I'm interested to see if the numbers
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  ever come out is, how much did donations pick up?
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  End of November first part of December.
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  And I'm not just saying that as went a compared to Prior.
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  I'm saying that as the momentum behind Athletics, as a hole
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  between cry, getting hired and the things he's done since he's
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  been here, the Run for the men's basketball women's basketball.
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  And now everything that the spring sports are doing with
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  softball and baseball, which I know we're about to get to, but
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  I think if you look at Kind of the way things are going with
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  all the sports. And I don't want to leave out
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  wrestling either. No, you know, or remember yeah,
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  eventually. Yeah.
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  It was like, not to be joking about like serious situations,
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  but it's like, we're in the middle.
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  We're in the middle of the ocean.
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  Everything was calm in this thing underneath the ocean
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  called Brent, fry erupted, and it's just been this huge tsunami
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  of momentum, like you said, through the winter, Ports.
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  And now, we're into the spring Sports and they're carrying it.
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  And, I mean, you know, let's flip to that Brown.
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  Let's talk about the softball team.
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  I mean, they're already the regular season Champs.
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  Yep. There without a shadow of doubt
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  that I have a regional in Blacksburg.
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  In man you got to kind of think their number two in the country.
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  Yeah. Unless they say how did you say
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  it the other day about them? Not being able to host the Super
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  Regional? A whole lot of teams behind
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  them. Got to do some good shit and
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  they've got a pretty much lose immediately.
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  Yeah, early and often it's going to be, I mean, Regional host
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  seems locked at this point. Super Regional hope, seems very
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  likely. Yeah.
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  Even, I mean, because you sit here and the only teams behind
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  them, and I'm looking at the USA Today.
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  Rankings Florida, State, Arkansas, Alabama, UCLA,
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  Oklahoma State, Arizona, State. That's the top eight Dukes.
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  Nine. You know, they beat you can a
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  series, they beat FSU in a series.
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  What are you value more? So, let's say they don't have a
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  great tournament. Do you value duker Florida,
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  State potentially getting hot in the tournament and doing
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  something, or do you value a regular season?
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  Which essentially what that's a Super Regional is, it's a
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  regular season, best-of-three match up.
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  You went to you go to the College World Series.
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  Yeah. I think you kind of Honor that
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  that format that you're playing. And I mean, we talk about this
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  all the time with we've baseball to with the whole wild card play
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  in that. I don't like that shit.
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  So I'm all about the format is the format.
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  So I think you would ride that direction in my opinion.
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  Yeah, I think you would too. Yeah.
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  Brian does not like the one playoff format.
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  He's Always objected for 2 to 3 every every everything else in
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  baseball is the series. Then you have this one this one
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  game for whatever reason is a one and done.
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  The only other scenario that would be and is a tiebreaker to
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  get into the said playoffs. Anyway, that's the.
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  Only other scenario that you even have this in play and
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  you're going to make that, you know, If you want a team to be
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  in the postseason, put them in the postseason.
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  In play it normal, they play it or play at least a modified
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  version of a series. Weatherizing of three.
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  Yeah, two or three different games series, three games, give
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  me a double header and a travel for the third one.
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  There you go. And if you're traveling, you're
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  going to wherever they're going to play Stadium, you don't give
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  the worst team. We get a home game.
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  That's my opinion. One other thing we forgot to
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  mention with softball. First of all, shout out
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  Mackenzie Lauder Hometown girl or we grew up.
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  Catcher. Hello Cheri.
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  We heard her dad taught us. Let's go with your sisters.
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  Yep. One other thing Kela.
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  Richard shocker, shocker picture of the year in the ACC, after
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  going 15 and 0. Who could have seen that coming?
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  Not everyone question is, is she going to get any national
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  accolades? I mean, I think she's guaranteed
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  All-American. Even I mean, thank you, blink.
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  At that is Domino's, she can be. I mean, if if not that's a
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  big-time snug. Oh, maybe that's what we need.
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  Then a little snug going into the little snug going into the
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  Into the into playoff mode. That might be the thing to do,
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  all right? We just mentioned it at the top
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  of the program. A few minutes ago, baseball
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  walks off beats. Liberty baseball is now me get
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  it up here. What are they 34?
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  And 634 and ate something ridiculous up.
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  Here we go. No 34 and 10.
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  Excuse me. Excuse that one little bit there
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  again. 77 games left in the regular.
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  Ziggler season, seven games left.
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  You've got a huge Series this weekend with Louisville.
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  Louisville number 7 in the country by Baseball, America
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  text for. We just mentioned it a couple
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  seconds ago. Brian I think Regional there's
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  one of the best 16 teams in the country.
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  They're going to get a regional birth host regardless.
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  Yeah. We're going I don't think that's
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  I don't think that seems outlandish.
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  I'd like I said I think some serious stuff would have to
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  happen in the coming, you know, a couple weeks for for that to
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  be in Jeopardy and you talked about a big Series against
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  Louisville, I think that's going to be Really the biggest series
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  down the stretch for the close of out, if they can can get that
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  series, I feel really good about going ahead and stamp in them
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  for that Regional host. For sure Regional hosted or
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  Conference tournament. At the end of the month.
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  It'll be on Labor Day weekend. I think it's probably going to
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  be some hook. He's down there.
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  It's going to be down in Charlotte at truest field.
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  So for those who are in the Charlotte area, I mean I've had
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  the opportunity to go to an ACC Baseball term.
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  It's a lot of fun. Yeah, so fun to go to You're
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  seeing you know you've got you see a lot of talent all over the
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  field regardless if you're going to see the Hokies play or if
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  you're going to see the or any other team play, there is a ton
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  of guys who are going to be in the MLB.
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  From the ACC in the, um, coming year.
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  So definitely worth a worth your time.
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  If you're in the Charlotte area and got nothing else going on
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  that weekend. Well, there's a bunch of Hokies
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  in the Charlotte area. It's not that bad of a drive
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  from the Roanoke and Blacksburg area down to Charlotte.
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  So if you can get there, get there.
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  If you can get there, get there, if you can hopefully the ACC
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  network will show the games but we know how funky that network
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  is. They'll be like blacking out
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  game showing replays of the pit spring game or something but hey
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  we got the game tonight so oh yeah there is there's a chance.
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  There is a chance. I Braun baseball softball.
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  Ball knocked out. Let's talk about basketball
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  because basketball has had a hell of a last few weeks, kind
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  of revamping the roster after losing some guys.
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  And let's look at kind of the kind of the biggest name per se
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  coming out, is John Camden transferring in from Memphis?
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  You know, Camden was a pretty much a three star or shooting a
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  four-star guy coming out of high school top, 150 player 68 205.
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  What do you think? I mean is this just Keys light
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  from a style and everything? Now I think he's got a little
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  bit more versatility here and it's the question is going to be
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  is he going to be you know that the three the four, the five.
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  I don't know how it's going to look real to talk a little more
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  about some other guys that might fill in those spots.
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  But you can is a guy that gives you kind of that that
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  versatility can do it. A little bit in the in the front
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  and the back court. You know, could be a big three,
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  you could play the poor and might give you five in a pinch
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  depending on if you want to go small.
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  So it does give some flexibility with how Mi kyung makes the
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  lineups there. It's very, very true.
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  And, you know, we needed some, you know, leaving losing key was
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  big, right. You lose a score.
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  Well they go out. Look at the lower level parts of
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  D1. They go out to Wright State and
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  get Grant Basile the 69 225-pound forward out of
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  Wisconsin. Last year, averaged 18 and a
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  half in game, eight and a half boards.
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  A game shot. 50% from the field and did it get some good
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  competition to you know they lost Arizona in that opening
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  game. He skill scored, 21, grab five
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  boards, three blocks, any shot, you know, Forty percent from the
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  field against a really good Arizona team.
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  So he's coming from a small school but he's shown that he
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  can play with the bigger guys. Yeah.
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  Sure. These are both the bigger guys
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  and he's shown that he can do a lot of different things.
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  He's got a similar skill set to illuma but I think he's a little
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  bit more willing to bang in the post.
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  So there might be a little more rebounding Edge there with him
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  on the court. Not probably not quite as Good
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  stepping out. But, you know, we'll see what we
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  can get from him. But he's part of this, big,
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  revamping of the front court that Mike young needs to do in
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  order to be ready for this upcoming year with.
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  But it's kind of still hanging in the balance there and illuma
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  already declaring for the draft, it's very true.
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  And then just yesterday they get one more front court.
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  Now, I'm hoping I'm pronouncing his name, right?
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  My li G. You'll petite.
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  And I'm pretty Oz in the last name, right?
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  69 £260 transferring from rice from Reidsville North Carolina.
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  So you actually went to high school down in Burlington so
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  very probably familiar with Virginia Tech last year 7, know,
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  right out eight points a game grabbed over for boards a game
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  and you know, limited minutes on the averaged about 13 minutes of
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  game. But that's a big body down low.
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  And it feels like Or at times, there were games this year, we
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  were missing, not necessarily A 7-footer but just a big body
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  that could, you know, give some fouls make guys have to work
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  hard. And to me, he kind of fills that
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  role when they want to go with a more defensive.
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  Maybe not a score and Presence at the 5.
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  Yeah, I don't know if he's going to end up being the starter at
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  the five or if he's going to be coming off the bench and kind of
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  just you know playing with some of the matchups they are to give
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  Guys, a blow. But I definitely think you've
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  got some potential here. Average 13 minutes.
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  We saw when his minutes went up, his scoring went up, so it isn't
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  just a, you know, more minutes is getting more production which
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  is a good sign especially if he's asked to even do, you know
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  up to 18 or 20 even if he's coming off the bench but it's a
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  big body. It's a guy that downloading get
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  some rebounds for you. I don't Know if he's going to
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  end up having more of a guess on or or a big Jon type role in the
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  offense or if they're going to try to do something different
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  with him but I think it's a solid pick up and again
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  reinforces that that front Court it does I definitely don't think
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  he's a story. I definitely think he's a bench
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  guy. Boring match up.
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  You know, you take somebody like a cot with Carolina.
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  There you go. Is he still following him score
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  some points on him? Yeah.
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  But is he going to have to work a little harder at times?
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  Absolutely. And then, you got five fouls to
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  give, so I mean, I see that out of this, I think was seals
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  probably going to be the guaranteed starter, just because
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  Camden got no play last year. You got to figure out exactly
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  what he is. He wasn't hiring guy coming out
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  but he doesn't have that experience.
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  Like Basile does what were we thinking today?
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  The Duel is definitely the point guard right there is Maddox or
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  is Couture your too. I think I like Maddox at the two
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  and then depending on how what we find out, we can get from
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  Camden. Either start with Camden and use
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  Couture is kind of your your 23 pivot player Off the Bench or
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  you can use you kick a tour in there and use Camden as the
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  pivot from the 34 as a sub Off the Bench there and then ship
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  Couture to the to the to Camden comes on when you need to and
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  you got War Two values like Rodney rice coming in.
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  I think what I'm already putting in my head as the first couple
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  months be patient. Because I think last year a lot
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  of us and I'm one of them, I was not patient, we were losing
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  those games. I wasn't but I think as I got
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  into it, what Mike young was trying to do is find his best
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  rotations, his best Combos and once he got it figured out,
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  right? That's when the run from January
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  to March happened in, obviously, when you're bringing in, what
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  five and you guys, 16. You guys, yeah, even a couple of
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  them who are very highly, touted freshman.
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  You've got to figure out what they're going to do.
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  Now, what's going to help everybody if this can happen is,
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  you know, we're waiting on Justin months.
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  Yep. Know if Justin much comes back.
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  I will feel a hell of a lot better about this team early
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  then later in the season. Yeah, because you're talking
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  about a it's not just Couture being the kind of the big leader
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  on the floor out the gate. And when we talked about
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  starting lineups, that might be the difference between having
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  Couture's, the starter is, you know, is much coming back.
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  If months doesn't come back, must does come back.
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  I should say you have less of a need to Have Couture is your
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  starter on the floor because he is going to be the de facto
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  leader in that group, if mutts isn't coming back, but what's
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  coming back? It gives you more flexibility
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  with your lineup. If Candice little bit further
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  along you, don't necessarily need that leader on the floor in
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  that starting unit out the gate. So abso-freakin'-lutely that's
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  going to be, that's going to be. I think the interesting point is
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  that if blood cells come back, I think that that would be a big
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  big boost for that team because again, you get more matchup
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  flexibility there and lineup flexibility.
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  Well, that's a lot of flexibility, probably.
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  Yeah, the line of flexibility is the big key on that, the sun is
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  to the portal. I think, with the pickup or
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  Poteet yesterday, I think the song is probably not going to
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  come back. That's just my field.
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  Um, and then, you know, keep got invited to the G, we really try
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  out which is, you know, good for him.
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  He does. He he stayed around an extra
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  season where last year, he didn't get any invites.
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  He's worked his way up to the G League tryouts.
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  Definitely, I think he has a chance maybe to eventually make
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  a roster. If not, I think he voloom is
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  going to go overseas and make a lot of money playing Euro league
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  basketball. Yeah, yeah, it's good for him.
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  Yeah, I mean he's a solid player, you know, has a lot of
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  Versatility in his game able to step back and take the three can
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  do a lot of things in the post down low.
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  So hopefully, you can catch on somewhere and make it happen.
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  Abso-freakin'-lutely. All right, Brian baseball,
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  basketball softball. We talked to money, dude.
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  If I told you three weeks ago that today June 11th, 2022, that
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  the Hokies would be ranked 21st and to 47s recruiting rankings.
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  What would you have said to me out of said, you're full of
• 23:41
  shit. And that would have been like
• 23:46
  I'm probably in Polish it because I don't sound right.
• 23:48
  But you know guys if y'all been paying attention, what a
• 23:52
  whirlwind getting six recruits in three weeks and man they are
• 23:58
  from all over the place. And let's start with the first
• 24:01
  guy that committed not long after not long after the spring
• 24:07
  game from right here in the RV, a just down the street from me.
• 24:12
  Jason Abby from Truman High School 64, 215 Edge player,
• 24:20
  ranked as an 84 by 247 Sports. You know, this kid had somebody
• 24:29
  come with a salt with the freemen coach not long after
• 24:32
  this happened, this kid just started playing football.
• 24:36
  And he's picking up this much momentum.
• 24:40
  I mean, were you able to even find any tape on him?
• 24:43
  Is there anything out there because he's just played a
• 24:45
  couple years? And I mean last year would have
• 24:47
  been his junior year. There's some out there but
• 24:51
  there's not a ton. I mean he is a he's a tall lean
• 24:56
  type of defensive end Edge presents.
• 25:01
  You think probably in terms of build similar to To a bar.
• 25:06
  No is right now. 64 215. Probably going to need some,
• 25:12
  some weight to be able to work into a 2d parole in this
• 25:17
  defense. But, you know, it's one of those
• 25:20
  things where out the gate, when you try to build build rosters
• 25:24
  like this and fill in some spots, you know, if you can't,
• 25:30
  you know, recruit top in Talent recruit guys that have good size
• 25:34
  and have good speed and he's got some good speed.
• 25:38
  Absolutely, you know, super long wingspan.
• 25:41
  Did the athleticism show on the tape that you saw?
• 25:44
  Yeah, yeah, I mean, it definitely pops.
• 25:46
  You can tell he's an athlete. Awesome.
• 25:49
  You know so you get one, you stay in state, you get kind of
• 25:53
  under the radar guy, from a school, not known to put out a
• 25:56
  lot of big products but from the way it looked they hid Deep Run.
• 26:02
  They had Godwin. I'm assuming they probably
• 26:05
  stopped by Freeman at some of those blitzes and hey, let me
• 26:09
  let's see this kid like that kid that kid.
• 26:13
  Yeah, here's an offer. It made the little param circle
• 26:17
  there. Exactly.
• 26:20
  All right. So they weren't done in the
• 26:23
  state of Virginia. Yet they go right in the back
• 26:26
  door and they actually get a kid who came over from Europe from
• 26:31
  Germany. Now, there's some jokes out
• 26:34
  there about German offensive lineman's but with the name like
• 26:37
  Hans Zimmer. Yeah.
• 26:39
  Six six and a half and 275 pounds, he was not rated by 24.
• 26:45
  7, when, you know when when everything was coming down they
• 26:50
  got ahold of this tape, they already put it in the top 20 in
• 26:53
  Virginia and already gave an 87. You get to see some of his stuff
• 26:58
  yet because I know they're he's in a private school down at
• 27:02
  North Cross which is a private school down, in Roanoke.
• 27:05
  Yeah, I watched some of that. I mean, he looks like a guy that
• 27:09
  is kind of that. Classic underrated Wisconsin
• 27:15
  Style. An offensive lineman.
• 27:18
  You see? Why Rudolph would have targeted
• 27:21
  a player like him. I think you still a little raw
• 27:25
  but I think he's got good size and he's showing some promise
• 27:30
  out the gate. And I think Rudolph just needs
• 27:33
  to buff out the edges there and he's going to be a solid pick
• 27:36
  up. All right.
• 27:38
  Can I say something that I remember texting you?
• 27:40
  Or we talked about this over the phone when he committed I think
• 27:44
  the 66 is legit. I do.
• 27:47
  I do think that. I think that's why Joe Rudolph
• 27:49
  pulled the trigger on. And I think he went and saw this
• 27:51
  kid in person known in Roanoke. In, like legitimately, like he's
• 27:55
  legitimately six-foot-six. He legitimately 275 pounds.
• 27:59
  I can work with this. Yep.
• 28:03
  And, you know, again, it's an in-state pick up, it's out of
• 28:08
  the country. That's one of those weird back
• 28:11
  and forth things, but When you see that happen, where God
• 28:16
  doesn't get ranked and he gets put just at an 87.
• 28:21
  What does that tell you these analysts are seeing when they
• 28:24
  look at him. Well, it's tells you that Number
• 28:30
  one, he's probably been under offered based on what they're
• 28:33
  seeing and based on some of the buzz that's coming out recently
• 28:38
  regarding that player. You know, it's not just okay.
• 28:42
  Well, he committed to Tech, he's got at least be an 85, right?
• 28:46
  Or something like that. Yeah, you know there's some
• 28:49
  other things that go into a bump like that.
• 28:53
  Yeah. Usually, you know a guy commits
• 28:55
  to a power file. That doesn't have any power 5
• 28:57
  offers. That's like a de facto 84.
• 29:01
  Yeah, 85. Yeah.
• 29:03
  You don't bump a guy 287 off that so they're definitely
• 29:07
  seeing something else and you mentioned the 66 so 24/7 has him
• 29:11
  six six and a half. The fact that they added the
• 29:16
  half tells me that, he's at least a full 66 because you
• 29:19
  don't throat, if he was trying to bullshit, he would have
• 29:22
  thrown it to 67. If you bullshittin, he would
• 29:26
  have, would have been bigger than that.
• 29:29
  So it's pretty awesome to hear that.
• 29:31
  All right, this is an offensive lineman podcast.
• 29:35
  We've always made that point clear.
• 29:38
  They pick up another commitment from an offensive lineman
• 29:43
  Gabriel Arena. You listed 65 to 85 Bishop
• 29:48
  McDevitt. Whoo whooping, Harrisburg
• 29:52
  Pennsylvania, we know Brent prize, love for Harrisburg.
• 29:55
  Bishop McDevitt is a private Catholic School up there with a
• 30:00
  pretty good football reputation and if you're wondering why I'm
• 30:03
  saying pretty good football reputation, Katie McCoy went to
• 30:07
  the school, Noah Spence. Noah Spence was a huge recruit
• 30:12
  back, a few years ago, LaRon McCoy went to the school.
• 30:17
  So this is one of those they're going to put out.
• 30:21
  Players and it doesn't take every 20 years.
• 30:25
  Yep. Offers from both green and
• 30:28
  places like that. What did the Gabriel Arena take
• 30:32
  tell you, you know, 85 3 star about 24/7?
• 30:36
  Yeah, I mean again another guy with pretty good size, a little
• 30:40
  raw, but the thing that jumped off for me, is this one's got a
• 30:44
  motor and he's got a nasty streak and I think that's,
• 30:48
  that's going to be good for this offensive line.
• 30:51
  And again, this is this is kind of another guy that is very much
• 30:55
  in the Rudolph. Rudolph footprint there.
• 30:58
  Right now, this is the type of player that he that he tends to
• 31:03
  recruit. He's found some a bunch of
• 31:05
  Diamonds in the Rough and develop them into NFL Talent.
• 31:09
  So hopefully Arenas another one of them.
• 31:12
  And when we look at Bishop McDevitt, you get Arena.
• 31:17
  But I know we're also taking a look at their running back to
• 31:20
  Marquis. Um, so there's there's some
• 31:22
  other talent. I think we're looking at from
• 31:25
  me, give it that could potentially come into play down
• 31:28
  the road in this class as well. So, yeah, and a lot of what's
• 31:32
  going on right now is the the setups to get in line for no
• 31:38
  other players. And it's being discussed all
• 31:41
  over Twitter and group chats, and things were part of When you
• 31:47
  take someone from Bishop when you start, trying to get your
• 31:49
  inroads and keep, you know, underrated local kids at home,
• 31:54
  it's kind of big. And you know, you talk about
• 31:58
  Brian, what was the name? Don't let Marcus Williams.
• 32:01
  Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a setup. Marquis Williams is a top-five
• 32:06
  player in the state of Pennsylvania.
• 32:08
  He's a top 24/7 player. Every move.
• 32:13
  It's we're not. We're in an era where not in
• 32:16
  there. We're with the staff that
• 32:18
  understands to get to Point C. You need to start working
• 32:23
  through A and B. You can't just jump to see all
• 32:26
  of a sudden so it's you know I know we talked about it a little
• 32:30
  bit you know. Jason Abby is the anomaly here.
• 32:34
  What we're seeing with a lot of these recruits that we've gotten
• 32:38
  even though they're not necessarily High three or four
• 32:40
  star players there from schools that have a rich history of
• 32:45
  putting out Collegiate and NFL Talent.
• 32:50
  In the next one that committed exact same way.
• 32:55
  Dante love it and DeMatha. Yep.
• 32:59
  If you basically Collegiate basketball Collegiate football,
• 33:03
  DeMatha puts out a ton of each. He is 3 star 87, but the way
• 33:12
  they were talking about him as he was leading up to, he's one
• 33:17
  of these kids that could take a massive.
• 33:20
  Of massive jump in his senior season.
• 33:24
  Yeah, big jump could be coming for him really talented.
• 33:27
  I think he might end up at safety, but I think he could
• 33:30
  play Corner as well. If we were rating and probably
• 33:34
  as a safety, he'd be higher out the gate, okay?
• 33:39
  That that's my opinion. I think he'd have a higher
• 33:41
  rating if you rating him just as a safety.
• 33:45
  But yeah, I think he definitely could be in line for a bump.
• 33:47
  I think he's one of the guys that he's gotten some look but I
• 33:52
  think with a good senior season, he can really get a bump and
• 33:55
  probably be either. He definitely going to be in
• 33:57
  that high three-star range could be in the forest our range.
• 34:01
  Yeah, and taking a look into math with the top 12 including
• 34:05
  Dante, love it. They have two more.
• 34:06
  They have D top player in the state of Maryland, and they've
• 34:09
  got the number 9 player in the state of Maryland.
• 34:12
  Also something to keep an eye on as well.
• 34:15
  Saint Frances Academy who prowls able to hold onto two of our
• 34:18
  better recruits last year. Also has a guy in the top five
• 34:23
  for defensive line. So you know and then another guy
• 34:26
  in the top 15. So just continue to keep
• 34:29
  thinking about that. You know, love is 61 185 If he
• 34:33
  if that's his true size He doesn't really have to come in
• 34:38
  and do too much weight gain to play.
• 34:41
  Especially they started at corner initially thought.
• 34:43
  Yeah, a little bit of weight game that you can play
• 34:46
  undersized safety feature. You know, we're not talking
• 34:51
  about is we're not talking about a big amount either.
• 34:53
  No, not a big amount either. All right.
• 34:56
  So, you know, we were sitting here last night, please, I was,
• 35:02
  you know, all of a sudden, Brent try brim Pride drops his signal,
• 35:07
  And everybody's like, who is it, who was it, who was it, who is
• 35:11
  this? And a guy I think a lot of
• 35:14
  people have been expecting to commit to Virginia Tech at some
• 35:18
  point this spring summer it has Marcel Baylor, sticks 3195 out
• 35:23
  of Radford High School three-story, six.
• 35:30
  Keep the local guys who have development potential, keep them
• 35:33
  keep them their state got development potential.
• 35:37
  I think there's some real upside with him.
• 35:39
  He's already got a good build coming out of high school.
• 35:44
  We showed him a lot of love you know.
• 35:46
  The videos are out there of him arriving on campus and the love.
• 35:52
  That was there was shown out for him and I think you know, we
• 35:56
  were talking about early on we thought he might be one of the
• 35:58
  first ones to jump in the boat crew you know, with how far
• 36:02
  along we he was Early in the process.
• 36:07
  I'm glad to see that we close the deal there at least in terms
• 36:11
  of the verbal commitment there. So yeah, let's keep it moving
• 36:16
  because we still had one more you do.
• 36:18
  Had one more home Baylor though and back on love it.
• 36:22
  Love its primary. Recruiter was Derrick Jones
• 36:26
  secondary was piercing Prelude Marcel's primary was piercing so
• 36:31
  for Pearson and I know he definitely has a great
• 36:33
  relationship with Radford High School coaching there for a few
• 36:36
  years but to get piercings feet wet, get him a couple wins early
• 36:40
  with a guy with his personality, his football knowledge, a big
• 36:43
  old ring to walk in actually a lot of rings because the time he
• 36:46
  played here plus the Super Bowl and all those years spend the
• 36:49
  NFL he has something to walk around with puts Ron's point.
• 36:54
  We were not done 4 p.m. today. A quarterback from a Georgia
• 37:02
  Power House. Yep.
• 37:04
  Rob said Dylan, witek it, I'm pronouncing his name wrong.
• 37:08
  Sorry, 3 star out of Buford High School who were state champs
• 37:14
  last year. You know, they talk about
• 37:18
  multi-sport athlete. Runs track, plays, baseball
• 37:22
  clock, that of 45 at the Elite 11 back in 2022. 37-inch 4.31.
• 37:29
  In short, vertical, T back in 21 when he was the backup won a
• 37:35
  State title. This guys coming from a pet of
• 37:38
  be program and he's athletic as hell.
• 37:41
  Yeah. Where it is, he can swing the
• 37:44
  ball a little bit to definitely unpolished.
• 37:48
  I think a little bit in that area but has the cannon to get
• 37:53
  the ball down the field and can make all the throws that you
• 37:57
  wanted to make. I don't think he's as much of a
• 38:00
  project as a couple of the other quarterbacks that we've seen
• 38:03
  lately. You know, that have sitting
• 38:06
  there similar athletic traits Big Arm, I think he's a little
• 38:12
  bit more game ready? And I think he matches what
• 38:18
  we're trying to do on offense. May be a little better than some
• 38:20
  of the guys didn't come through in the past who weren't
• 38:22
  necessarily good scheme fits even though they had some
• 38:26
  physical tools. It's very true and you talked
• 38:29
  about kind of being game ready, even in a backup role last year,
• 38:32
  he got a chance to play as their change of pace back.
• 38:36
  As what they listed here is his background, he can bleed it over
• 38:40
  60% of his passes for close to six hundred fifty yards and
• 38:43
  seven touchdowns. That's pretty good for a backup
• 38:47
  you know usually you're hoping if you got a change of pace guy
• 38:50
  just when you throw 50 percent can you just get 50%?
• 38:54
  Don't don't fuck it up. Get some good runs hand the ball
• 38:57
  off. So it's it's pretty awesome that
• 39:03
  you know, it's in we're in the top 20.
• 39:06
  You know we've already said it top 35, or better this year and
• 39:10
  sort of a rebuild would be great to get this kind of momentum
• 39:14
  going in May because we're three weeks out from one camp start.
• 39:19
  Yep. If the me if we can get one more
• 39:22
  between now and that first camp in June, you're talking about
• 39:25
  going in with eight guys. And that would be a big momentum
• 39:30
  because then you're going to get probably some Elite Talent
• 39:32
  coming in, and the coaches, to be able to make the cell.
• 39:37
  Yeah, bunch of official visits are paying for those camps in
• 39:41
  June, as well surrounding those camps.
• 39:43
  So I think that's going to be big for a lot of these players,
• 39:48
  getting them in, give them on campus, some of the ones that
• 39:52
  we're waiting to pull the trigger on, seeing what they can
• 39:53
  do in these drills against Maybe potentially bigger stronger
• 40:00
  talent. I think that's going to be big
• 40:03
  for them. And yeah, like I said, it could
• 40:06
  be a really June, could be a really big month after, you
• 40:11
  know, we kind of kicked off may pretty good as well.
• 40:13
  So, you know, I like I said we're not expecting.
• 40:18
  You know, big big moves this year?
• 40:22
  I think, I think, right now it's this is a fill the roster where
• 40:26
  you need to fill the roster. Yep, with solid Talent.
• 40:31
  Go out, develop them, and win some games in 22, and then, then
• 40:36
  you got something to sell on the road.
• 40:39
  For next year. Yeah, that's that's the big key.
• 40:43
  It's do I expect maybe us to get one or two four stars this
• 40:47
  cycle? Yeah, one or two.
• 40:49
  I think we're going to pick off. I think we've got enough good
• 40:52
  Recruiters in the building. Do I expect it to be 8 or 9.
• 40:58
  Unless you know unless something crazy happened and we're sitting
• 41:01
  here in November saying, hey we're seven and one.
• 41:05
  Are you bleep? Kidding me?
• 41:06
  Like that's when you can flip that on to having a really good
• 41:09
  season but I wanted to discuss one other thing.
• 41:13
  Braun Brent pry from day. One has been preaching.
• 41:17
  The six hour radius, the six hour radius, the 6:00 hour
• 41:20
  radius Dylan would a key is the farthest player from his
• 41:27
  hometown to Blacksburg. You don't know how long that
• 41:31
  drive is. Tell me, man, five hours, 55
• 41:36
  minutes, these are saved it. As you've got, you know, a be
• 41:47
  here in Richmond, three hours, you got, Lance Williams and
• 41:50
  Alco. It's about a four and a half
• 41:52
  hour drive Hammers and Rona. That's right there.
• 41:55
  Baylor's in Radford right there. Reena in Harrisonburg what?
• 42:00
  1/2 hours the math about for. He said that was his plan and he
• 42:05
  has stuck to with us far. Yep.
• 42:09
  And I like that where we're not ignoring the state's next to us
• 42:16
  in either direction. This this isn't just You know
• 42:21
  what? Let's touch the schools in the
• 42:23
  states. We've had a history with.
• 42:25
  Yeah, we're doing that but we're tapping into some areas in that
• 42:29
  footprint that we haven't historically been doing well at
• 42:34
  particularly Pennsylvania we've already done.
• 42:36
  What done some somewhat? Well, there we got.
• 42:39
  A DeMatha kid in a battle against Maryland.
• 42:42
  We beat Maryland for kid in their backyard.
• 42:45
  You always, you always talk about it.
• 42:48
  Those are the winds, we Need to take 80% of the time.
• 42:51
  Yep. Take those 80% of the time you
• 42:54
  start doing that and getting players like, a kid of love.
• 42:57
  It's caliber, who is an 87? Who's to me?
• 43:00
  That's a higher three. That's not a high high 3 and 88
• 43:04
  or 89, but that's a higher through.
• 43:06
  It's more than a mid three to me.
• 43:08
  But you beating Maryland form. Now the next couple like you
• 43:13
  always talk about if we have to go against NC State for a kid
• 43:16
  for like trying to throw another name out.
• 43:19
  Or South Carolina. And I mean I mean even wake at
• 43:22
  this point. Yeah.
• 43:24
  Go win those four out of five times.
• 43:27
  Yeah. When the battles that you can
• 43:29
  win, you know, you're not going to always, I mean, even in the
• 43:32
  regional footprint, you're not always going to be UNC your Penn
• 43:35
  State, but you need to pretty much all the time.
• 43:39
  Beat NC State beat dude, beat. Wait feet Maryland.
• 43:43
  True, very true, beat, it beat Kentucky.
• 43:46
  You can tuck in Tuck you if you Kentucky's in play for somebody.
• 43:49
  Be in lieu of them places like that.
• 43:51
  That's the one. You gotta win 80% of the time.
• 43:54
  Alright, Braun, before we start looking at the portal and some
• 43:58
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  Now, back to the episode. Paris, Brian, let's take a look
• 44:29
  at the portal because since we last talked, we didn't get into
• 44:34
  the portal that week because we were talking about the spring
• 44:37
  game, a couple guys. We already know Gordon Bronson
• 44:41
  Kong ties. Gary gone.
• 44:42
  We didn't mention it last time. Oversight Jared.
• 44:45
  Gible got in the portal tight end but since then man, it's
• 44:49
  been a flood. Yep.
• 44:51
  Marco lie in the portal, already committed to South Alabama, glad
• 44:55
  he found a place to play defensive back to Sean Elder.
• 45:00
  Walk on Jabari Parker out of Highland Springs, Bryce
• 45:04
  Governor, which I think that's going to be a big talking points
• 45:07
  here. Jalen Hampton.
• 45:09
  And the deer Thompson and I'm is DJ Simms, is he in?
• 45:14
  Or is he out? I thought he was back in, not
• 45:19
  now. Sorry back in as in part of the
• 45:22
  roster, I'd building and put himself in and then took himself
• 45:25
  out of the portal really quick, maybe it was the wrong name.
• 45:30
  But, you know, best of luck to all those guys.
• 45:33
  First of all, I hope they all land, somewhere able to compete.
• 45:37
  Play the game. They love get their education
• 45:39
  completed, but I think the one of this list, Brian, we started
• 45:44
  talking about You like the good new tape last year?
• 45:49
  You thought he'd do good and heard some things like he was
• 45:54
  working with second team, then all of a sudden he's flipped the
• 45:57
  defensive line. Yep, and the next thing, you
• 46:02
  know, a few weeks later, he's out in the portal and then he's
• 46:05
  already committed to UT Chattanooga.
• 46:09
  So little shocked little bit little bit and I think what I'm
• 46:16
  going to assume in this situation is that given the lack
• 46:22
  of depth that we were looking at when we were recruiting rice, he
• 46:29
  came in thinking he was going to get some early playing time by
• 46:32
  this year. And I think between a
• 46:36
  combination of switching schemes and it not being as good of a
• 46:40
  fit. Also looking at where he was on
• 46:45
  the depth chart with some other new guys, could there that are
• 46:47
  coming into the program, he wasn't in the two deep anymore
• 46:52
  as we were moving through. Spraying Flip to the defensive
• 46:57
  side looked like he wasn't going to be in the 3D on that side of
• 47:00
  the ball and decided let me see what's out there in the program.
• 47:04
  Yeah and he did and he went down to an FCS program and UT
• 47:08
  Chattanooga I believe is a decent program and it will
• 47:10
  Healey coach there for a few years, but you do there.
• 47:16
  But but let's just be honest, first of all, I'm glad he landed
• 47:21
  somewhere, but it also shows you, what we're looking for is
• 47:24
  going to be a little bit different because you kind of
• 47:26
  talked about him. You like him in that zone
• 47:28
  scheme, that we were in previously, but well, one room
• 47:32
  that got cleared up between, Bronson, Lee, Geary and Hampton
• 47:36
  running back. Rooms is now at seven.
• 47:39
  Where did a good number? We know Jalen wholesome is gone.
• 47:42
  Next year, were you are you shocked?
• 47:46
  But still glad Kenji. Christian has not entered the
• 47:49
  portal yet. I am because based on what I was
• 47:52
  hearing, it sounded like he was potentially in the doghouse.
• 47:57
  I'm glad that either that's not the case or that whatever was
• 48:02
  going on with that has been cleared up to a point where he
• 48:05
  feels comfortable saying in the staff feels comfortable with
• 48:08
  him. You know, move Lord, you know,
• 48:11
  whatever the situation, I don't want to speculate on something
• 48:14
  that I don't have 100% knowledge on.
• 48:16
  So but I think like I said, he's got he's got good town and I
• 48:21
  think between the tackles he can be that type of player for us in
• 48:24
  this game. Yeah.
• 48:28
  Hopefully I don't know if this year's going to be that time for
• 48:31
  him but hopefully by next year when holsten's out he can slip
• 48:35
  into that type of role in this offense.
• 48:39
  You know, I think, I think that we're already kind of found our,
• 48:43
  our all-purpose guy with Thomas, he can be the between the tackle
• 48:48
  specials and let guys like King and chance black be kind of that
• 48:53
  that more Gadget type player in the offense.
• 48:56
  All right, if a few months ago, I gave you a number of nine and
• 48:59
  a half. Would you have said over under?
• 49:01
  How many guys we have on the board out of said probably over?
• 49:05
  At this point we're in eighth. Um which right now we have one
• 49:13
  scholarship to give out to someone in the portal.
• 49:17
  But do you think this says a lot more about potentially burnt on
• 49:21
  the culture? Using still in here?
• 49:23
  That he's obviously he had some hard conversation to guys
• 49:29
  because guys have we have a number of guys that have left
• 49:33
  But it's not mass Exodus. I think we expected.
• 49:37
  It's not, I mean, we had the discussions, he had to have,
• 49:40
  which is, we can't have 10 scholarship, running backs.
• 49:45
  So we've had that discussion. That's been, that's been settled
• 49:49
  at least to a point, but it sounds like he had those tough
• 49:53
  discussions, but it also sounds like we've got some pretty good
• 49:58
  buy-in by these, these players that were already on the Roster.
• 50:04
  You know whether that ends up being a good thing, long term,
• 50:07
  we'll have to see, but the fact that he's been able to come in,
• 50:11
  sell his vision on what he sees and guys want to be a part of
• 50:17
  that, even if they're not necessarily in the 2D heading
• 50:19
  into fall says a lot about. I think the process that we're
• 50:23
  going through right now you say process.
• 50:26
  I did you said process so process Well, the other thing
• 50:33
  you kind of got to wonder and it's just a rumor floating
• 50:35
  around with the NCAA slower. Frickin molasses in it.
• 50:38
  Frickin wintertime is that that rumor of the potential extra
• 50:43
  scholarship somewhere between three and five for 2022.
• 50:48
  If that happens. Where we're at now spine as if
• 50:53
  you don't respond extra, even three extra.
• 50:55
  That's perfect, right? Curtis, is this the the part of
• 50:59
  the program where we're going to trash?
• 51:01
  The NCAA for about a good 20 to 30 minutes?
• 51:04
  Um, that probably 20 10 to 12. Maybe 15.
• 51:09
  Okay, let's do 15, let's do 50. All right first off.
• 51:12
  Fuck the NCAA rule well I mean okay, so number one, number one,
• 51:19
  Been dragging your feet on whether or not you're going to
• 51:22
  allow some extra scholarships from this year, after letting
• 51:26
  everyone play last year on. Oh yeah, without you.
• 51:29
  So, again, this is information that should have been dulled out
• 51:35
  before, May shit should have been built for March, but it
• 51:41
  should have a, but absolutely should have been dulled out
• 51:43
  before the deadline for players to get into the portal to be
• 51:48
  able to play. Next year, true.
• 51:51
  We're already past that we're 11 days, past that.
• 51:54
  So no longer is that even a thing to think about, but You
• 52:03
  know, we also have the scholarship because last year
• 52:08
  was like, everyone can play in. We said on here.
• 52:12
  Okay, that's great for this year.
• 52:14
  How are you going to get that under control next year?
• 52:17
  And you would think they would have came out pretty quick and
• 52:19
  said, because the logical thing is, you don't go from having
• 52:23
  what 100 players 95 to 100 players on scholarship.
• 52:28
  To getting back down to 85. The thought process is
• 52:31
  graduated, if you're going to have, don't go.
• 52:34
  Even if you only do it one year, just give some flexibility but
• 52:39
  no Curtis like always the NCAA things.
• 52:41
  Problems are going to take care of themselves.
• 52:44
  You mean like the ni L? Yeah I do mean like the Nao, the
• 52:50
  NCAA things problems are going to take care of themselves.
• 52:53
  They don't and then they just slap Dash some shit out there
• 52:57
  and Hope that things go the way they want to, which it never
• 53:00
  does. So you get situations like this
• 53:03
  with the scholarships where we're we're late and we don't
• 53:07
  know, and no one knows and people are playing their cards
• 53:09
  close to the vest because they're unsure.
• 53:12
  And then you get situations like the ni L where you've got Jordan
• 53:16
  Addison entering the, the portal based off a potential huge ni L
• 53:24
  deal with USC, we million bucks, he's making more than pick.
• 53:27
  Is in the NFL. Yeah it's wow.
• 53:31
  And I'm going to I'm going to preface everything before I get
• 53:34
  into this situation with I 100% still support in il, in theory,
• 53:43
  the way it was talked about. I also and under the current
• 53:46
  rules support, the players going out there and getting theirs
• 53:50
  because all they're doing is essentially playing by the rules
• 53:54
  that everyone else is playing, but there's a go get yours.
• 53:57
  Do what you need to do. That being said, when everyone
• 54:03
  was talking about ni L, what they were more or less talking
• 54:08
  about is remember that shit Johnny Manziel got in trouble
• 54:12
  for. Yeah, that would have been
• 54:15
  legal, that would have been allowed.
• 54:18
  That would not have been sanctioned.
• 54:21
  It was never supposed to be in theory, a recruiting tool.
• 54:25
  It was supposed to be. Once you've been recruited,
• 54:28
  you're in college, you can use your name image and likeness to
• 54:31
  make money based off your abilities once you've been
• 54:35
  recruited. The problem is that the NCAA saw
• 54:41
  this coming to fold over five years, over five years and sat
• 54:49
  on their damn hands and then let it get to a point where states
• 54:54
  were passing laws and they were out of they were they no longer
• 54:58
  had control of it. So once they no longer had
• 55:01
  control, they slapdash some dumb shit together and said, here's
• 55:05
  the policy. And no one knows what really is
• 55:09
  and is not legal within this framework right now.
• 55:12
  And really no one gives a shit because the NCAA is to us their
• 55:15
  Toothless. And right now, it's basically
• 55:18
  the Wild Wild West. They can come down with any sort
• 55:21
  of stuff and I know they're claiming they're trying to
• 55:23
  figure it out and get some rules in place.
• 55:26
  How can you punish someone based on what we're doing?
• 55:29
  Will do you can't do this and you guys did this you didn't
• 55:33
  tell us we couldn't do this until after we had already did
• 55:36
  this? Clarification, eight months
• 55:39
  later in doing shit, jack shit. So, should there have been
• 55:44
  something? Yeah, we've been talking about
• 55:46
  it. Like legitimately in il deal,
• 55:48
  shouldn't have been able to be into place or a offer made until
• 55:53
  you are signed with a school. Yeah, you have to be enrolled in
• 55:58
  these School fully signed on scholarship to have the
• 56:01
  opportunity for an ni L deal. Not this.
• 56:04
  What the hell is going on at USC trying?
• 56:06
  To get Jordan. Addison.
• 56:08
  Hey hey, three million dollars, come here and play for us.
• 56:12
  Okay. And like and like I said, I'm
• 56:14
  not necessarily begrudging. The folks that are taking
• 56:16
  advantage of these situations there.
• 56:18
  They're just doing what the NCAA has allowed them to do exactly
• 56:22
  when you're like with, when a kid, when a kid habitually does
• 56:27
  does something wrong, you don't necessarily look at the kid and
• 56:29
  say, okay well do you know the kids bad?
• 56:31
  Well, if if they haven't had a parameter of which They know
• 56:37
  this is acceptable behavior in. This is not.
• 56:39
  I mean, they're going to take advantage of that.
• 56:40
  I have no problem with you, taking advantage of the rules
• 56:44
  that are there. But at some point, the NCAA
• 56:48
  didn't think. All right, well if we're going
• 56:52
  to move forward with this, how can we move forward with this in
• 56:54
  a way that is not only Equitable for the players, which is the
• 56:58
  most important part of this. But also keeps the spirit of the
• 57:04
  intent of the level Level Playing Field as much as can be
• 57:08
  in the college game exactly. In will I think it will be?
• 57:13
  Will it be self-corrected in the next two to three years?
• 57:16
  Yeah. Yeah, but you're going to swing
• 57:17
  to a point to a point. It will be because it's like I
• 57:20
  know you made the point earlier at some point.
• 57:22
  It's not going to be worth for those boosters to drop three
• 57:25
  million dollars on every good player.
• 57:28
  No, because you're going to have your have enough bust where
• 57:31
  their investment is not returned, you know, it's our a
• 57:34
  lot its return on investment if you don't or return on Equity,
• 57:38
  whatever you want to call it. If you're out here and you're a
• 57:41
  big booster and you know, your work, you know, eighty hundred
• 57:44
  million dollars. Rich people do not like to lose
• 57:49
  money. So if you're this guy given n IL
• 57:52
  deals, 10 million a year in, these kids aren't worth a shit
• 57:56
  playing eventually, you're going to look at the school and the ni
• 58:01
  L program be like fuck y'all. I'm not giving you any more
• 58:04
  money. Wow, it's been five years.
• 58:06
  I've wasted 50 million dollars. We got two good players out of
• 58:09
  it. Why does he need you?
• 58:12
  Yeah. But I'll tell you where the
• 58:14
  problem is going to come though and it's already.
• 58:16
  Already seeing it mostly with the Jordan Addison situation.
• 58:19
  It's yeah. School was like pit or schools
• 58:22
  like Virginia. Tech that develop a talent, they
• 58:25
  show out and then a big dog comes in there and can throw 3
• 58:29
  million at them for two years. Yeah, and reap the benefits.
• 58:35
  They don't have to worry about as much of that unknown factor
• 58:38
  as you will with a high school athlete.
• 58:41
  Yeah, they might be five stars but even the hit rate on five
• 58:43
  stars isn't using a little proof, right?
• 58:46
  No. So so at that point, you know?
• 58:51
  Yeah, 55 most five stars are still probably going to get some
• 58:53
  money thrown at them but you're not going to see a ton of four
• 58:55
  stars. Get good big deals like that.
• 58:58
  What you will see is the high three and four-star.
• 59:01
  Go to a school like pit or like Virginia Tech or like NC State
• 59:05
  and play for two to three years. And now, all of a sudden their
• 59:08
  star is rising. And you'll see those big schools
• 59:12
  like your bamas, your USC's, your Oklahoma's, Come ashore and
• 59:18
  they'll have a booster drop a meal or two meals out there and
• 59:20
  say hey come play for us for a year or two.
• 59:24
  Now the bigger, but the bigger but that's a risk reward, right?
• 59:27
  A million dollars is a lot of money, half billion dollars a
• 59:29
  lot of money. Yeah.
• 59:31
  But the risk reward on that for that player is you're going to a
• 59:36
  whole new school all different culture on potentially whole
• 59:41
  different system. You.
• 59:43
  And if you're one of those guys who are that highly ranked where
• 59:46
  it's like, dude you're going to go in the first four rounds of
• 59:49
  the draft so you're probably going to have a few million
• 59:52
  dollars, guaranteed to you regardless.
• 59:54
  Yep. Do you go to a school?
• 59:58
  Take the ni L deal but what if it just absolutely cripples your
• 1:00:01
  stop? It's a huge risk reward so
• 1:00:06
  what's going to happen in that case?
• 1:00:08
  Yep. Alabama comes and steals a tight
• 1:00:11
  end from Virginia Tech who was showing out right.
• 1:00:14
  He goes to Alabama, does nothing.
• 1:00:16
  Instead of getting drafted, he's sitting on the end of the line,
• 1:00:19
  undrafted free agent, barely on barely on a practice squad.
• 1:00:25
  But in go see million dollars in the bank.
• 1:00:27
  To that's the piece though, if you were going to be a top, 100
• 1:00:33
  Prospect, what's 2 million dollars?
• 1:00:37
  It's marginal, right? I get that.
• 1:00:39
  I get that. But money in my pocket today is
• 1:00:43
  better than money in my pocket in two years.
• 1:00:47
  Well, what's gonna happen? I'm just trying to tell you that
• 1:00:49
  that's how a lot of players are going to see it.
• 1:00:51
  But what I'm saying is there's also going to be stories and
• 1:00:54
  there's going to be where other coaches such as the smaller
• 1:00:58
  schools are going to be able to say who you can go do that.
• 1:01:01
  I understand, take the money. Don't forget what happened to
• 1:01:03
  these three guys. In the kids, got to sit there
• 1:01:06
  and be like well shit like cuz they're still going to be
• 1:01:09
  chances to make what six figures potentially in schools.
• 1:01:13
  Like pit Virginia Tech. NC State, really good players.
• 1:01:18
  Could at the upside of that could potentially make something
• 1:01:21
  like that especially over the course of their entire career.
• 1:01:25
  Yeah so it's a cluster F. Hopefully in some way it gets
• 1:01:30
  Resort about the NCAA we could possibly be 50 years old when
• 1:01:35
  that happens so that just gives you their timeline.
• 1:01:39
  Yeah, the n-c-double-a saw the Jordan Addison situation.
• 1:01:43
  They were like maybe we should send out some clarifying
• 1:01:46
  documentation that, that'll settle things down.
• 1:01:49
  That that's what's needed right now is some clarification
• 1:01:52
  clarifying documentation of what the rules actually are.
• 1:01:56
  Obviously, everyone's abiding by them, they're morons.
• 1:02:01
  And I mean, what the NCAA, what's it going to take to
• 1:02:05
  control some like this is, you got to have a powerhead figure
• 1:02:08
  who will lay hammers down on people.
• 1:02:10
  And there's only a few other in have the respect of the
• 1:02:13
  Collegiate Community to do it. Well, in my opinion, uh, coach
• 1:02:17
  little times, let me say to me the NCAA commissioner, we need
• 1:02:21
  to have a commissioner. and, a governing body that Is supported
• 1:02:31
  by the conferences and we don't have that right now the Congress
• 1:02:34
  has had zero zero faith in what the NCAA is trying to do as a
• 1:02:39
  governing body to the point where they're pretty much trying
• 1:02:42
  to do it on their own. The problem is that under the
• 1:02:46
  current rules and the way things are trending, I'm not sure that
• 1:02:51
  that's a good thing for college football.
• 1:02:53
  If you like college football, more or less in its current
• 1:02:56
  format, well, I like college football better from 20 years.
• 1:03:00
  You go but that's just me. Yeah like I said y'all know me
• 1:03:05
  I'm not an old hair that's out there saying all right screw
• 1:03:08
  those players. The scholarship is enough.
• 1:03:10
  Oh no screw those players. If you transfer you got to sit
• 1:03:13
  out a year. You know I've been as Pro Player
• 1:03:17
  as most people can be and you brought me to your side as most
• 1:03:21
  people can be. I am Pro Player movement.
• 1:03:23
  I am Pro Player, being able to get money based on their
• 1:03:27
  abilities. But that's not, there's a
• 1:03:30
  discipline that in what's going on right now which is more or
• 1:03:32
  less a pay-for-play situation that is exclusive to certain
• 1:03:37
  players because this isn't certain players.
• 1:03:41
  Hey, for playing for everyone, it's it's for if it's a
• 1:03:45
  recruiting tool and it's a tool to get people to transfer to
• 1:03:48
  your Universe, it's almost like there should just be a draft and
• 1:03:51
  we should have salaries. Someone proposed that a while
• 1:03:55
  back. I wonder.
• 1:03:56
  I wonder who did that? I don't know.
• 1:03:59
  Go check back 2020 folks when we again if they do move to that
• 1:04:03
  model the semi pro model, there needs to be a draft because
• 1:04:09
  you're all you're doing is you know, licensing.
• 1:04:14
  The Collegiate brand and image. Anyway exactly not necessarily
• 1:04:19
  officially a part of the University anymore.
• 1:04:21
  So you might as well have a draft right?
• 1:04:23
  Yeah. Only fair.
• 1:04:26
  Also only farewell in certain schools who always get 65 5
• 1:04:30
  Stars. They're sitting out there trying
• 1:04:32
  to get scraps, all that will never happen.
• 1:04:35
  They there's too many people in play that will never allow that
• 1:04:38
  to happen because they would be too much parity parity some
• 1:04:43
  conferences and some schools do not like well the NCAA better
• 1:04:47
  act sooner they're going to get it cut out of their own money
• 1:04:49
  making wagon you damn right by that in the quicker, the power 5
• 1:04:54
  gets that together. To be hilarious.
• 1:04:57
  All right, Brian, let's talk about this.
• 1:05:02
  This happened this week was first reported by Pete thamel.
• 1:05:08
  Basically a cc means going on this week and it's under
• 1:05:11
  discussion that divisions could be eliminated as early as 2020.
• 1:05:16
  Three reported later by David teal.
• 1:05:21
  One of the most popular models is a re-fixed and you play the
• 1:05:27
  other five teams rotating every year.
• 1:05:30
  What do you think of it? I'd prefer to and six, but I
• 1:05:36
  like this better than divisions. So, whatever we end up with is a
• 1:05:42
  better, a better good start than what we're doing now, aside from
• 1:05:48
  not wanting to play BC every year, which I'm hoping that one
• 1:05:51
  of the three is not be, see it. Lord, I hope not.
• 1:05:54
  I'm sick of BC. Yes, we will play them every
• 1:05:58
  other year, it's fine. Yeah, we'll still get up.
• 1:06:02
  They're to Chestnut Hill every four years they'll get down to
• 1:06:05
  Blacksburg every four years. That's good enough.
• 1:06:08
  Let's go, mom. Yeah, let's get.
• 1:06:10
  Give me UVA. Give me Miami and give me one of
• 1:06:14
  either. Georgia Tech or UNC if we're
• 1:06:17
  going. All right, I'm with you on the
• 1:06:20
  first two Eileen just, because you've got to kind of keep it
• 1:06:24
  balanced Eileen. Screw that go Louisville.
• 1:06:27
  Okay, I like, I like, Lois, but I've got no beef with
• 1:06:31
  Louisville, being being That third, well, my model I told
• 1:06:34
  Brian about this, the model I've got in my head is thinking
• 1:06:37
  geography and distances because to me, everybody needs one long
• 1:06:42
  travel like one travel, where you've got to go a long ass
• 1:06:46
  ways, that would be Miami for us.
• 1:06:48
  That would be us for Miami. West Virginia's, not joining,
• 1:06:52
  Robbie West. Virginia is not joining there in
• 1:06:55
  the Big 12. So like and then you have a
• 1:07:00
  medium somewhere between what the prop 6 hours for your fan
• 1:07:03
  base to drive. That's Louisville Louisville is
• 1:07:05
  roughly five and a half, six and a half hours from Blacksburg and
• 1:07:09
  then one short distance. Or a shorter distance as
• 1:07:12
  possible. So that's why I'd go Louisville
• 1:07:16
  over Carolina or gt. Just because it's going to be,
• 1:07:22
  you know, he is right at the border of that.
• 1:07:24
  Five to six. You put up there.
• 1:07:27
  Yeah. GTS ride.
• 1:07:28
  The board is about a seven and a half from Blacksburg.
• 1:07:31
  So it's still, it's still not a bad drive.
• 1:07:33
  You want to go down there for its A330 game.
• 1:07:36
  You leave at 6:00 in the morning from Blacksburg or from this
• 1:07:38
  area. You be down there by 1130
• 1:07:42
  tailgate few hours, go to the game, right?
• 1:07:45
  It's a reasonable drive. So that's kind of the what I'm
• 1:07:49
  seeing in. But the biggest thing about
• 1:07:51
  this, everybody wins, everybody wins.
• 1:07:55
  We as fans win, right? If we have been wins because we
• 1:07:59
  know every other year, we're going to play or every every two
• 1:08:04
  years we play everybody in conference.
• 1:08:07
  We play everybody in conference. That's awesome.
• 1:08:10
  You talk. Planning to go, you know maybe
• 1:08:13
  going to Clemson or FSU for a trip or an away game.
• 1:08:18
  You know when it's going to be. Yeah.
• 1:08:21
  And it's not like waiting six, seven years for that to happen.
• 1:08:26
  And it also me and brown we're looking at like everybody's been
• 1:08:29
  talking about with the Atlantic has been the dominant
• 1:08:31
  conference. Beginning of the ACC, the
• 1:08:35
  coastal look from roughly 2005 to 2011.
• 1:08:39
  The coastal had the To better teams movers occasions numerous
• 1:08:45
  occasions. Yep.
• 1:08:47
  So what we're looking at now in the last ten years it's been
• 1:08:50
  Clemson and Florida State while the coast has just been the
• 1:08:54
  wheel of Destiny. Yeah, we said it earlier.
• 1:08:57
  The Atlantic has had usually the two best teams in a given year,
• 1:09:03
  the coastal as usually had three, four and five, hmm.
• 1:09:07
  So the coast of might be a little, a little deeper.
• 1:09:11
  But they are more in the middle of the of the pack versus at the
• 1:09:15
  top end of the, of the cops. It's true.
• 1:09:17
  But the whole piece about this especially if you're looking at
• 1:09:20
  a playoff model it's getting larger you won't your two best
• 1:09:24
  teams on the stage at the end of the see if a team is 12 and 0
• 1:09:28
  and A team's 11 and 1, or even ten and two playing each other.
• 1:09:32
  If it's a good competitive game, you're likely going to get to
• 1:09:35
  him. Yep, that's why you're going to
• 1:09:37
  this model. And by all means if you do the
• 1:09:41
  Rolling, right? You won't Miami and VT or you
• 1:09:45
  want them to play. You take a look at the, you
• 1:09:47
  know, ten years ago. Saturday afternoons, pulling
• 1:09:50
  three and a half four million people as a 3:30 game.
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  You want Florida State and Clemson play, you want the good
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  teams to play each other because when it's the known Brands who
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  are good and ranked people turn on their TVs to watch that game.
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  So it's a win for fans, it's a win for players, because the
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  players, if you stay there for years, you're going to play
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  every team away in home. Yep, you're going to experience
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  every atmosphere in the ACC, which is awesome.
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  I'm with you I'm with you. I think it's going to be a bit
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  of a good move for the ACC as a whole and I think getting rid of
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  divisions is like you said, good for fans.
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  Fans get to see the Hokies play teams that they sometimes wait
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  for 56 years to play, which is asinine under the current
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  format. Yeah, completely I'm going to do
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  is, like seven years to play Syracuse.
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  Yeah, it took us a while to play Syracuse, took us a while, to
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  get in Sea State Louisville Louisville, yeah, probably shout
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  out, John Earl, gummy X, NC State, and you complete each
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  other since in the last 18 years.
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  How many poor? They literally are 40 their,
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  what 30 minutes from each other, they played four times in 14
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  years. So we played West Virginia.
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  Pretty much the same number of times.
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  They played a down the street rival in the same conference
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  more more. All right, let's roll on.
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  Let's talk about the drafter real quick.
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  Brian with the Hokies in the draft, the Hokies get four
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  players, drafted, James Mitchell, 177 to Detroit Amar'e
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  bar, no 189 to Carolina, Luke tenuta 2009 to Buffalo and let's
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  see the Smith 215 to Arizona. Are the other names we've had on
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  our list and we talked about, who are you, shocked that did
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  not get drafted. Did not get drafted.
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  Jermaine Waller. I thought he would, at least get
• 1:12:05
  drafted. Just based off the earlier tape
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  and what he did in the front half of 2021, I think the
• 1:12:15
  injuries and the back a performance, as a result of
• 1:12:19
  those injuries. Along with, I think, in some
• 1:12:22
  ways, Caleb Farley going so high and then and then being injured,
• 1:12:28
  so early in his career. I think some of that is You're
• 1:12:31
  playing into that but I think Waller could you know
• 1:12:35
  potentially get in there and stick.
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  I think, Detroit side up, awful fit for him with his skillset.
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  Big thing for him is he's got to stay healthy now, absolutely
• 1:12:46
  Jermaine with shock to me because I said, six guys will
• 1:12:48
  get drafted. He was one shock to me.
• 1:12:50
  The other was brought as it got later.
• 1:12:53
  I thought Center versatile, guard guy would get, would
• 1:12:57
  someone would just draft him? Just like this is just a shot.
• 1:13:00
  Not if he develops right, we've got a swing guy on the inside
• 1:13:04
  right now. So I was shocked, even get
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  drafted, I mean he went to Cleveland good spot for him.
• 1:13:12
  They just got rid of JC Treader who was a pretty experienced.
• 1:13:15
  So there's a couple guys in front of him but there's not
• 1:13:19
  like that one big you know, Pro Bowl, solid veteran, type guy,
• 1:13:25
  you're not going to beat out you know talking about the other
• 1:13:29
  ones we already talked about Jordan Williams.
• 1:13:30
  Go To Miami Trey. Turner goes to Las Vegas,
• 1:13:33
  Blackshear to Buffalo, shanghai's to Arizona, John
• 1:13:36
  Parker, remote catches on with the Saints.
• 1:13:39
  Now, let's flip back where you shot the James Mitchell went
• 1:13:42
  before anybody else? No, because I knew that he had,
• 1:13:46
  probably the biggest upside of any player.
• 1:13:52
  Just based on his size, his skill.
• 1:13:54
  He's put, he's got pretty decent tape out there.
• 1:13:57
  We didn't utilize them the way that we probably should have,
• 1:13:59
  but the tape that is out there. On him is good.
• 1:14:02
  He's got the size. Got the measurables.
• 1:14:04
  He wasn't able to do, you know, some of the stuff at the combine
• 1:14:09
  but, you know, overall he's been able to show his measurables
• 1:14:12
  before so that wasn't as big of a deal.
• 1:14:15
  So that doesn't shock me. It doesn't necessarily shocked
• 1:14:18
  me that bar. No, was the next one off the
• 1:14:20
  board because again, another physical trait player versatile
• 1:14:25
  player that you can do some different things with it has
• 1:14:28
  some upside at either. Either, you know, a heavy
• 1:14:32
  blitzing for three scheme, or potentially, an edge player in a
• 1:14:38
  3-4 or a situational rusher in a traditional 43 as a defensive
• 1:14:43
  end. Oh yeah, he's one of those guys,
• 1:14:46
  if you're running a system where you have like a wine and you
• 1:14:50
  stick him at nine as first year and say go or you put them on
• 1:14:53
  special teams to go try to block the punt.
• 1:14:55
  My shocker of all these was the seat of Smith.
• 1:14:58
  Going to 15. Let's see.
• 1:15:00
  This myth could become a starter in the NFL.
• 1:15:07
  First, he is going to be a swing guard.
• 1:15:10
  That can play either side of the line solidly and make spot
• 1:15:13
  starts him going that late, especially where he was ranked
• 1:15:18
  because if you look, he was a top-10 Garland.
• 1:15:20
  So many guys have big boards and it shows you the value of the
• 1:15:23
  guards, but it also shows you me and Brian were talking about.
• 1:15:27
  He's a Colts fan IO Niners fan. We really don't have spots for
• 1:15:32
  guys who are potential starters. We don't What we have spots for
• 1:15:37
  and it's how we kind of drafted, right?
• 1:15:38
  Brian. We took a guy to Fordham in a
• 1:15:41
  guy that you tap on the offensive line because they're
• 1:15:45
  looked at developing, why do we take those guys?
• 1:15:49
  Because is anybody in their right, mind going to sign a kid
• 1:15:53
  out of Fordham or kid out of UTEP to their roster as the
• 1:15:57
  season begins? Yep.
• 1:16:05
  They go on your practice squad. A guy like Lucy to Smith if the
• 1:16:09
  Colts or the 49ers pick him up, he could fit in our schemes if
• 1:16:15
  he's not if he's essentially the fifth or sixth guard and we have
• 1:16:18
  to cut him, he's not coming back to you.
• 1:16:22
  He's not it's just simple as that.
• 1:16:25
  Sure. So, who do you think you?
• 1:16:34
  I feel like I look at it. I'm glad for guys when I'm glad
• 1:16:38
  all these guys signed. Anyone stick out to you is Maybe
• 1:16:44
  in two or three years, we're talking about them in a good
• 1:16:47
  way, you know, I will stick with my my train here, but I'm going,
• 1:16:51
  I think black. She is going to be a guy that
• 1:16:52
  sticks on a roster even though it was undrafted yunos
• 1:16:55
  undrafted. I feel like what they do in
• 1:16:58
  Buffalo he could he could be the gadget guy up there so I could
• 1:17:03
  definitely see that and hey the old special teams coach.
• 1:17:08
  Yeah. Best he knows how to get kickers
• 1:17:10
  man. Deputies got a lot of kickers
• 1:17:12
  Italy, right? Nail so, yep.
• 1:17:15
  Woman might stick. All right.
• 1:17:18
  Brian a, did you watch the Kentucky Derby Saturday?
• 1:17:21
  I did, I did. That.
• 1:17:24
  Was that was a. That was a, that was a good one.
• 1:17:27
  Crazy. Right?
• 1:17:28
  The, the the was it a drone angle is they were making the
• 1:17:33
  turn. Did you have you seen that
• 1:17:34
  picture? Yeah.
• 1:17:37
  The way that what Rich King? Came up right now.
• 1:17:43
  Rich strike, excuse me, straight, 80 to 1 odds, he
• 1:17:47
  literally got in because somebody got scratched, like,
• 1:17:51
  two days before. A21 eyes wins the Derby.
• 1:17:56
  Also that horses mean if you did not see him afterward, I'm
• 1:18:01
  really fighting people. Yeah, he has an attitude but
• 1:18:07
  Mike Leach made a great tweeting, a great statement, he
• 1:18:12
  said that horse winning the Kentucky.
• 1:18:13
  Derby's a good example of why an expanded playoff as needed, that
• 1:18:18
  horse hadn't won. All the races leading up, but he
• 1:18:21
  got the key word is Chance, and it happened.
• 1:18:28
  Right here. You know, we talked about this
• 1:18:33
  sometimes. You just need one.
• 1:18:37
  The difference. Is that with a playoff, it's not
• 1:18:39
  just one, right? Like I said, just one shot, you
• 1:18:41
  got you got it, put put a little run together.
• 1:18:45
  You got, there's a little difference there but having a
• 1:18:48
  seat at the table is important. And having a seat at the table,
• 1:18:54
  gives you your Longshot, right? You're not necessarily, you're
• 1:18:59
  not favored to win. It's not likely that you're
• 1:19:01
  winning. You're a long shot for a reason,
• 1:19:03
  just like Rich strike was a long shot for a reason.
• 1:19:07
  Sometimes all the cart sometimes all the cards come together in
• 1:19:11
  the long shot wins or a long shot, can make a run that, you
• 1:19:15
  know, you don't normally don't make it's very unlikely.
• 1:19:20
  That a 12 seed would win a college football playoff, but it
• 1:19:26
  helps long-term that 12th seed. Be able to consistently compete
• 1:19:34
  and potentially build towards a scenario where they can win a
• 1:19:39
  college football player. Exactly.
• 1:19:41
  Do I expect Rich strike to win the Triple Crown?
• 1:19:44
  No, I don't it all. But if you was the 12 and he
• 1:19:49
  played 25 and he caught the game of his life, there you go,
• 1:19:54
  that's all you need now. I mean, everybody's talking
• 1:19:56
  about rich strike, even if he doesn't win, the Triple Crown,
• 1:19:59
  everybody's still talking about rich, straight, whatever, Or
• 1:20:03
  ever. So in that case you kind of look
• 1:20:05
  at the college football playoff and think, you know number five,
• 1:20:08
  Alabama has to play somebody with a week to prepare and they
• 1:20:13
  lose its forever. Going to be talked about it's
• 1:20:16
  Boise State Oklahoma. Those seven a game still talked
• 1:20:20
  about to this day. When that upset happened.
• 1:20:26
  Yep. And that's all you want.
• 1:20:28
  That's all. That's almost.
• 1:20:29
  That's, that's all most 85% of the college football World
• 1:20:33
  wants, right? We just want a chance to sit at
• 1:20:35
  the table. Just one seat.
• 1:20:38
  You put us at the end there. We just want a chance to sit at
• 1:20:41
  the table. Yeah, because I mean it's some
• 1:20:44
  point depending on where we're heading.
• 1:20:50
  The seats are going to get even more difficult to obtain.
• 1:20:56
  Mmm, it's also true that so the more of them we have the better,
• 1:21:04
  very, very true. My friend.
• 1:21:05
  Hi, before we shut it down tonight.
• 1:21:09
  Guy we chat with off and on all the time, blew up over the
• 1:21:13
  weekend. Our boy, the Diablo fan account
• 1:21:17
  deferred walk on. Tweet of the year in my opinion
• 1:21:23
  but you know and it's the truth. This is the truth.
• 1:21:28
  Men will literally sit around a name random sports players for
• 1:21:31
  two hours instead of going to therapy.
• 1:21:34
  Yes. Because Sid bream was very close
• 1:21:37
  to being out with the bomb. Nice
• 1:22:10
  guys. And if they're all of the same
• 1:22:13
  age, Span. We literally can sit here and
• 1:22:17
  name and go to any sport to. That's the funny part.
• 1:22:21
  It's not just like, oh, it's just football.
• 1:22:23
  No, pretty sure we can go basketball.
• 1:22:26
  And hey, remember I Vernon Maxwell at?
• 1:22:28
  Tommy went into the state. Yeah.
• 1:22:36
  Yeah, it stands. Today is Almost 50,000 likes
• 1:22:47
  18,000 plus quote tweaks, and it's so funny.
• 1:22:53
  Guy listen to 49ers podcast and of DN a couple times, great guy
• 1:22:58
  named John Chapman, it got to him.
• 1:23:02
  John lives out in San Jose. In a tweet from Blacksburg.
• 1:23:07
  Virginia made its way. To the other side of the country
• 1:23:14
  and who knows where else in this world.
• 1:23:16
  Yeah, it's out there in The Ether now.
• 1:23:21
  Well done, sir. Well done forever, forever,
• 1:23:25
  forever Braun, and the last hour.
• 1:23:28
  And 25 minutes has anything broken.
• 1:23:32
  Nothing that I see here, buddy already.
• 1:23:36
  Other than who won the NBA game. The box came back in one while
• 1:23:41
  I'm talking like and KO tomorrow.
• 1:23:45
  All right. Well, if that's it, let's wrap
• 1:23:47
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• 1:23:49
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