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Football at Four: An Overview of the Eagles After Their Loss to the Giants · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is Football at four.
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  Speaker 2: I think there were some some good moments in the
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  Speaker 2: run game today, got ourselves behind instead a bit in
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  Speaker 2: the second half on some of some of the some
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  Speaker 2: of the runs there. So we'll we'll look at everything
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  Speaker 2: right there. We know we have the guys up front
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  Speaker 2: to be able to do that. Obviously we got we
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  Speaker 2: got to do a good job pointing them in positions
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  Speaker 2: and succeed and then we got to go execute. So
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  Speaker 2: you know, we'll we'll look at everything. You know, running
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of different types of schemes, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: we'll look at we'll look at everything to see what
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  Speaker 2: we're doing well and treat this like a bye week
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  Speaker 2: here this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni. Last night, after a pathetic Eagles effort in
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  Speaker 1: the loss against the New York Football Giants, we're unpacking
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  Speaker 1: this Eagles loss to the Giants for Today's Football at Four,
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  Speaker 1: course we'll be there on Monday when the Eagles look
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  Speaker 1: to get ready for the Minnesota Vikings. But first let's
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  Speaker 1: unpack this lost Adam Kaplin to the New York Giants,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't even know where you started. It was
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  Speaker 1: one of the most embarrassing losses that I can remember
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  Speaker 1: in doing the show in terms of the quality of
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  Speaker 1: where you think you are versus the quality of where
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  Speaker 1: you think they are. And they got whip last night.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't a fair fight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah they did.
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  Speaker 4: There's no doubt. You know, Jalen Carr not being able
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  Speaker 4: to push off that heel. That's why he didn't play.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he had that injury as coming out of
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  Speaker 4: Wednesday's walk through.
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  Speaker 3: That's never good.
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  Speaker 4: And soon as I saw game haul up like he's
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  Speaker 4: not playing and he didn't Byron Young starter for him.
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  Speaker 4: But the big honest Quinnion Mitchell's injury. Mike, let me
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  Speaker 4: just go into a couple of things. The first away,
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  Speaker 4: he's got a hamstering injury, so he was supposed to
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  Speaker 4: get amri today. Look, he couldn't come back in the game.
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  Speaker 4: That's not a good sign. I know they've got some
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  Speaker 4: extra time here. But we knew this because we talked
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  Speaker 4: about it the entire offseason that Negos probably would regret
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  Speaker 4: thinking that Ringo or Jackson could be starters Mitchell that
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  Speaker 4: obviously with a mistake, they never should have done that. Well,
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  Speaker 4: here's what happens. If you remember in the game Ringo,
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  Speaker 4: Ringo gets quasi bench like they pull him, they put Jackson,
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  Speaker 4: and then Mitchell gets hurt. So Ringo's got to go
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  Speaker 4: back to the game and Jackson's got to move over.
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  Speaker 4: And that's it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that Parry.
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  Speaker 4: Nickerson, they basically just put on special teams. And remember
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  Speaker 4: Mac McWilliams was healthy and active, so you knew that
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  Speaker 4: the Giants do won't be throwing the ball a lot
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  Speaker 4: with a rookie quarterback when they throw Mike, So Ringo
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  Speaker 4: give up that thirty plus yard or to little Jordan Humphrey.
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  Speaker 4: If you never heard him before.
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  Speaker 3: Now you know who he is.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, he's a guy that Sean Payton used
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  Speaker 4: to coach with the Saints. It's a journeyman. They just
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  Speaker 4: activate him off to practice squad for the game. Mike,
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  Speaker 4: that's not good. When if they had a pass it
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  Speaker 4: got to be the point with the Giants, and he
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  Speaker 4: was lack of a pass rush, which we'll get into
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  Speaker 4: it a couple of minutes. Then at this point, Mike
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  Speaker 4: I was like watching, Like gosh, if they decided to
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  Speaker 4: throw the ball thirty times some more. Thuse, Mike, give
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  Speaker 4: up three fifty to four hundred.
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  Speaker 3: That's how bad it was.
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  Speaker 4: And their past rush wasn't very good. But well, let
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  Speaker 4: let's get started offense here. So the two turnovers, Mike, Look,
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  Speaker 4: this is Heart's first turnover. Did have a fumble earlier
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  Speaker 4: in the season, but they recovered it. Then A J.
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  Speaker 4: Tayllen had the fumble, so they lost the turnover battle.
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  Speaker 4: That was a problem. The running game. You mention it.
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  Speaker 4: Here's a question for you, Mike, what is more pathetic
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  Speaker 4: the Eagles running game of season or the Phillies lack
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  Speaker 4: of offense in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of white the same thing. They're terrible.
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  Speaker 1: It is it is well, I would say it's a
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  Speaker 1: good question because it's perplexing to me, even even last
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  Speaker 1: year at times. I mean, we had these conversations about
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  Speaker 1: how you have Aj Brown, DeVante Smith, Dallas Goddard, Saquell
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  Speaker 1: Barkley and the offensive line that you have and you struggle.
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  Speaker 1: I said, you should roll out of bed with that
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  Speaker 1: offense and score thirty points like you should be like
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  Speaker 1: I have so many points to score. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know where I want to start this week. Yet they
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  Speaker 1: constantly struggle, and part of it is a we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: utilize our rushing attack, run out the clock, and therefore
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  Speaker 1: you don't score as much because the clock's always running.
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  Speaker 1: But you're getting these big explosive plays. But they can't
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  Speaker 1: do that right now. But for them to have the
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  Speaker 1: talent and now the Phillies, I can understand. The top
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  Speaker 1: three guys are what they are for.
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  Speaker 3: Can you be? But Mike, they can't the top three
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  Speaker 3: You just mentioned it right, No, No, I'm saying, don't
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  Speaker 3: accept that the top three in a row.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, But Adam, I say to me the Eagle. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line right now for the Eagles is a problem.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna get into that. Yeah, well that's all my point.
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  Speaker 3: Keep going.
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  Speaker 1: But I would say that the offensive line is what
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  Speaker 1: you have had. The Eagles offense is more complete. The
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  Speaker 1: line's good, the receivers are good, the tight ends good.
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  Speaker 1: The running the Eagles after are the Phillies after? The
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  Speaker 1: third guy in the lineup stink. I mean, Brandon marshitting
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  Speaker 1: fifth on a playoff team is discreete you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, bomb fourth. I mean, are you kidding? He's not
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  Speaker 3: a clean up hitter. That's just exactly bomb forth Marsh.
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  Speaker 4: Mike, I wish we were doing a Philly show together,
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  Speaker 4: so I know you love baseball as much as I do,
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  Speaker 4: and you played it. I mean, I literally could fill
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  Speaker 4: two hours easily on the Phillies the season and in
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  Speaker 4: how I was still worried about them being unable to hit.
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  Speaker 4: But let's get back to the Eagles, which is why
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  Speaker 4: I'm on here, and this is you know, it's interesting
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  Speaker 4: you heard what I heard as you introduced me, what
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  Speaker 4: Cirianni said about the running game. First of all, yes,
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  Speaker 4: the first two runs were Barkley thirty a total thirty
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  Speaker 4: one yards is longest run of the season by the
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  Speaker 4: way of eighteen. And the holes were great.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, okay, this is a good front to
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  Speaker 4: Giants have. After that, Mike, it's like they knew what
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  Speaker 4: the Eagles were doing. They completely shut them down. This
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  Speaker 4: is something we're not sure of. We're specketting a little bit, Mike,
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  Speaker 4: but we greco Sell helped us with it because we
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  Speaker 4: all felt the same way. Something is going wrong with
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  Speaker 4: Eagles not running outside runs. They're not they're outside zone,
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  Speaker 4: which is a big staple for them.
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  Speaker 3: They're not doing it.
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  Speaker 4: They're not been tossing the ball and letting Barkley get around.
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  Speaker 4: In our thought process, and this is what you were
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  Speaker 4: talking about earlier with the running game and what the
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  Speaker 4: problem is. And I know you're kind of alluding to
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  Speaker 4: it not being the same.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Mike.
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  Speaker 4: Talked for I don't know how many weeks that Jurgens
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  Speaker 4: clearly is not himself coming off the back surgery. He
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  Speaker 4: kind of confirmed it going on the record after the
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  Speaker 4: Denver game. And then you've got Dickerson, who's an unable
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  Speaker 4: to play, who's dealing with Mike so many different surgeries,
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  Speaker 4: and he doesn't look right Mike physically. So the interior
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  Speaker 4: offensive line, you've got a first time full time starting
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  Speaker 4: Tyler Stein right, but okay, not great. Blaine Johnson is
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  Speaker 4: going to go to the Hall of Fame. He's a
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  Speaker 4: great football player now, just talking to people of great
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  Speaker 4: tape for us, he doesn't look quite the same. Not bad,
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  Speaker 4: he's still good, but he's not elite right now in
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  Speaker 4: the way.
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  Speaker 3: That the tape would show you.
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  Speaker 4: It's not it's not what numbers would tell you. It's
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  Speaker 4: more of a tape study information, and Jeremy Lata is
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  Speaker 4: having some Occasionally he'll have plays that are not quite
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  Speaker 4: sure my lot alike like that we expect from Mike.
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  Speaker 4: If you add this up, when did we talk about
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  Speaker 4: any of this stuff last season? About not not one
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  Speaker 4: problem that we had with the offensive line last season?
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  Speaker 1: The offensive line right, it was pretty crazy to say
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  Speaker 1: for pretty much other than the four weeks my lot
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  Speaker 1: of miss you were healthy from left to right the
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  Speaker 1: whole way through. That just doesn't happen. And now you're
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  Speaker 1: having that. So the offense. Some of the things that
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  Speaker 1: you unpack is the offense turned the ball over last
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  Speaker 1: night too, so you had an interception. Then you had
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  Speaker 1: the Dylan fumble late, which you know that thing was
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  Speaker 1: just by that point you were at a U it
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  Speaker 1: was over. But he had fumbled on the kickoff too, Mike.
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  Speaker 4: This kickoff thing, and that's on my notes here about
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  Speaker 4: special teams. They make the trade for tech picks, they
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  Speaker 4: give up two late round picks. They basically pulled them
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  Speaker 4: off of it because he couldn't hold on the football.
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  Speaker 4: So they've got problems Mike offensively though. Mike in the
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  Speaker 4: sec zero points of the second half. They've only scored
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  Speaker 4: fourteen points in total in the last three games in
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  Speaker 4: the second half. It's kind of weird. I don't understand
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  Speaker 4: that one either. I'll be honest with you, Mike, there's
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  Speaker 4: so many things going with this football team.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 4: You want to look, they are four and two. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: let's not forget that, but there are issues with this
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  Speaker 4: football team that there's so many.
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  Speaker 3: Problems right now. You know.
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  Speaker 4: I like what Nick said, they're gonna treat this like
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  Speaker 4: a new rule. By what did he mean? The coaches
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  Speaker 4: will self scout now, I'll be interested. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if Nick will talk about it typically talking to coaches
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  Speaker 4: over the years that when you play a Thursday game,
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  Speaker 4: you give the coaches Friday and Saturdy off to come
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  Speaker 4: in studying grade the tape after getting schlack like that,
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  Speaker 4: I would if I'm Nick, I want everyone in today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not giving this guys the weekend off. I was that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care, like they were not prepared Mike for
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  Speaker 4: that game. Coaches are players, that's and it starts.
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  Speaker 3: With the coaches.
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  Speaker 4: That that was an embarrassing effort. I love the way
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  Speaker 4: you actually said that, and I agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: It was absolutely embarrassing, totally.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and they got taken into the woodshed by
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  Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants. Who listen, their offensive line
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  Speaker 1: not great, right, It's not like and they got beat
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  Speaker 1: up on the offensive but they got beat up by
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  Speaker 1: the Giants offensive line and their defensive line.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it, Mike, I gotta. I'm so glad
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  Speaker 4: you set it up like that.
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  Speaker 3: I was wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I wasn't wrong in theory, but it went up
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  Speaker 4: not happening.
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  Speaker 3: I thought for sure.
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  Speaker 4: I know the Eagle's defensive line or defensive front has
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  Speaker 4: been inconsistent, but knowing what I know about the right
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  Speaker 4: side of the Giants offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: Jermaina Luminor.
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  Speaker 4: I met Ermaine a couple of years ago at the
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  Speaker 4: Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: He was from the area. He's a really good dude.
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  Speaker 3: Like talking to him.
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  Speaker 4: But let's face it, he's a journeyman tackle from the
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  Speaker 4: formerly the Raiders and Patriots. He's sort of seen as
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  Speaker 4: a guard right tackle. Well, he played real well. Greg
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  Speaker 4: Van Roten from University of Pennsylvania. I cannot believe this
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  Speaker 4: guy still in the league. He was an undirected free
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  Speaker 4: agent Mike in twenty twelve Mike twenty twelve for the Packers.
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  Speaker 4: He's been with I think seven or eight teams.
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  Speaker 3: He played really well. How the heck they got blown
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  Speaker 3: off the ball?
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  Speaker 4: I totally was I haven't even seen the tape yet.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't talked to anyone but someone I really respect
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  Speaker 4: from another team who actually watched the game. He's out scouting.
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  Speaker 4: He actually watched the game from his room. He didn't
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  Speaker 4: have access to the All twenty two. That's not available,
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  Speaker 4: he said. Phillys de Lion got handled, man handled it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, how do you know that it goes? Trust me,
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  Speaker 4: I know what I'm looking at. I'm like, okay, so
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  Speaker 4: think about that, Mike.
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  Speaker 3: Why does this ever happen? It's hard to.
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  Speaker 1: Police, especially against a team like the Giants, whose offensive
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  Speaker 1: line is a mega problem for them. Like that's one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons why the Giants struggles so much. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they can't do anything because the line is
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  Speaker 1: so bad. And for them to do what they did
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  Speaker 1: to that defense last night, the defensive front last night,
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  Speaker 1: that's something I want to get into in just a moment.
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  Speaker 1: I want to kind of get back to this offense
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  Speaker 1: because hirts sure non factor in the run game. Throws
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  Speaker 1: the interception. What's going on with him right there in
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  Speaker 1: the run game and then missing guys. I mean, people
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  Speaker 1: keep blaming Kevin Badullo, but there's some plays out there, man,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I.
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  Speaker 4: Look, obviously he's calling the plays. He's part of the issue.
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  Speaker 4: And Lane Shohnson that comment about that's a true predictable
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  Speaker 4: Lane did not really explain what that meant. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: but it doesn't. That's not what you want from your
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  Speaker 4: veteran player. Like, but he did go on the record
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  Speaker 4: after the game to say that. Hope the media asked
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  Speaker 4: him next time they get him exactly to define what
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  Speaker 4: that meant.
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  Speaker 3: But it hurts. Look, first half.
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  Speaker 4: Big yardage, that was a great thing to see.
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  Speaker 3: But you touched on it earlier.
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  Speaker 4: MI Like, they've got to get the run game going,
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  Speaker 4: and he's a complete non factor of the run game.
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  Speaker 3: I'm stunned by this.
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  Speaker 4: This is now. Greg Costell told us that the Broncos,
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  Speaker 4: based on his tape study, completely have them figured out
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  Speaker 4: coming into the game because teams they're running the same concepts,
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  Speaker 4: even with the hurry up or RPOs, they know exactly
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  Speaker 4: what to do to it.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: The Eagles are running the same scheme now for five years,
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  Speaker 4: with little tweaks like Kellam Moore tweaks some stuff last year.
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  Speaker 3: Still the same scheme.
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  Speaker 4: I'm told teams know what they're getting here, Mike, It's yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 4: it's predictable. They're running the same scheme. But yet, why
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  Speaker 4: is it that they have these good halfs so it
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  Speaker 4: sound like it's all bad.
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  Speaker 1: They have hurt They had two they had two drives,
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  Speaker 1: a seven place seventy five yard drive and an eight
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  Speaker 1: place seventy four years it looked like they were finally
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  Speaker 1: getting into something here. But as a lot of these
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  Speaker 1: guys are saying after the second half, these defenses are
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  Speaker 1: changing their looks on you, and the Eagles cannot adapt
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  Speaker 1: to it.
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  Speaker 4: For whatever he has shut out, right, So that's a
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  Speaker 4: really good coaching by the defense. You saw Todd Bolt
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  Speaker 4: do it because hurts. It's really odd.
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  Speaker 3: It hurts.
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  Speaker 4: This phenomenal against the Blitz this year. It's like last year,
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  Speaker 4: like twenty thirty was terrible, last year improved. But now
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  Speaker 4: he's it's like he's getting it out quickly.
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  Speaker 3: Now. That does By the way.
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  Speaker 4: Just so you know, we haven't talked about this enough,
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  Speaker 4: we'll move to defense in the second. When you get
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  Speaker 4: rid of the ball quickly, sometimes too quickly, you're taking
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  Speaker 4: off the yards after the catch. That's part of why
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  Speaker 4: not last night because he had a.
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  Speaker 3: Good yardage game.
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  Speaker 4: But when you're looking to get rid of the ball
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  Speaker 4: so quickly, you're not going to have big plays downfield. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you're all getting it, you're not taking a sack, and
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  Speaker 4: you're helping your completion percent. So this will think, Mike,
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  Speaker 4: let's move on from here. But it's a major work
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  Speaker 4: in progress.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 4: We'll talk more about this on Friday when we preview
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  Speaker 4: the game against the Vikings in Minneapolis. It could be
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  Speaker 4: Carston Wentz by the way they they if they look
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  Speaker 4: flat again, Mike, then I'm going to be all in
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  Speaker 4: saying this is twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 3: Again. I don't have that vibe like other people do.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I'm sort of like on a on the
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  Speaker 4: minority right now. I get it, but it's I'm not
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  Speaker 4: saying it's not trending that way for me. But right
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  Speaker 4: now I'm not totally there where everyone else seems to be.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the defense, because they got
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  Speaker 1: taken to the woodshed as well. Poor tackling. The offensive
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  Speaker 1: line just absolutely destroyed you. And I'll tell you what
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  Speaker 1: they at the By the second half of that game, Adam,
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  Speaker 1: they were taking joy in lowering the shoulder and running
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  Speaker 1: you over.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it, Mike.
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  Speaker 4: I saw it. Scatterbow talk about a guy who was
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  Speaker 4: talking smack. I don't know if you saw the video
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  Speaker 4: after the game with the Amazon group, you know the
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  Speaker 4: guys after the game, Yeah, they were. Now, now don't
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  Speaker 4: forget they played in Philly two weeks from now. We'll
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  Speaker 4: stay where the Eagles are at Meley for that game.
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  Speaker 4: But yes, I could not believe how physical they were.
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  Speaker 3: Against his front. I know Geleen Carter didn't play. I
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  Speaker 3: get that.
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  Speaker 4: You need to mention that Byron Young is an Okay, backup, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: remember it bother the way you know they When the
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  Speaker 4: Eagles traded Thomas Booker, I kind of hitted he might
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: be starting. Thomas Booker starts for the Raiders.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: Listen, okay, my buddy qu Myers, who covers the Raiders
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: out there. He texted me immediately, what are we getting
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: in Booker? I said, I don't know why they didn't
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: use him more. Every time he got on the field
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: here he seemed to be in the backfield making a play.
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a good football player, but the thing is Mike.
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: And again I know that Dart didn't drop back much,
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: and he did run a little bit. You know, he's
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: actually his first three games starts of his careers over
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: fifty years per game. But the lack of a pet
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: rush that was the thing. Again, there was I mentioned
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: Greg Greg Van Roten from University of Pennsylvania who's now
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: thirty five years old, playing right guard. They couldn't beat
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: Luminar or Van Roten. I just don't understand that. Fanjo's
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: got to figure it out. I don't on Vick as
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: much as we praise him from day one. I don't
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: quite understand what that defensive game plan was. I said, now,
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: and obviously you lose Mitchell, you don't have you don't
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: have Carter. You're gonna have to just on the fly.
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: But they were bad early in the game, like this
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: was not like, oh well, these guys are in the game,
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: and particularly Mitchell, and then they started off really well
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: against the Eagles. Eagles got down early, as you know,
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: big I'll give the Eagles credit for fighting back actually
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: taking Lee briefly, and then the secondary Mike, Oh boy,
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: it was an absolute disaster.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I will before we get to the secondary real quick.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: When they did get a pass rush, this is where
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Dart was dangerous because he just kept like extending the
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: play running around. It looked like you were watching, you know,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel at Texas A and m.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's funny because Fansy has said he
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: compared to Baker Mayfield. He said, look, the guy could run,
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: you know, and he well he talked said that about Knicks,
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: but he said the same thing. He's like the other
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: two guys we faced. So yeah, he could run. And
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: today's guy, today's quarterbacks are no longer just drop back
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: past a lot of more athletic and could run. I
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: just the touchdown run that he had. I mean, talk
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: about the Red Sea harding. I mean that I don't
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: know what happened there, Mike, but they they have a lot,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: They've got a lot of corrections. It's kind of like
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: the Dan broke them both sides of the football, and
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: now you got defensive injuries, so they got a lot
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: to clean up here.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Let me, you were going into the secondary Ringo. I
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: mean he lets the guy catch a pass the front
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: and the guy goes down. Ringo never touched him again.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: It's almost like he just gave it. They picked on
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Ringo all night. I mean, oh, he had a rough night.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Then Mitchell goes out and it just went downhill from there.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: Look, I'm not saying it's gonna happen by next week.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: But it didn't stop the Browns and Jaguars the trade deadlines.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: Not till the first Tuesday November. Jaguars and and Uh
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: and Browns made swap cornerbacks, a very odd trade from
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: major trade. But it's very fascinating. Though he asked with you,
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: it will not surprised me with the next week. How
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: he's got a corner in here. He's got to do something.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: I know it's hard to trade for corners. Who's gonna
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: geup at starting corner? Typically look to the bad teams.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: But man, Mike, if let me tye something. If Mitchell
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: doesn't play next week, imagine Ringo and Jackson against Justin Jefferson.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Are you serious, an Addison? Are you serious? Get out
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: of here like that that they're giving me up fifty
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: next week?
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: If that can you just think about what you just said, Adam.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Do you ever think there was a time this season
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: no you were going to talk about him the Eagles
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: defense giving up a fIF like being a weakness.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: I'm joking about fifty, but they would give up. By
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: the way, Carson Wentz I was talking to grek Sell
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: about this because he stopped. He wanted he wanted to
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: tell me how good he looked. So the Mechanks were
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: really good last week against Cleveland. He had no turnovers,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: he looked healthy, moving well. I mean, how can Minnesota
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: go back.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: To McCarthy the way? That hurts? I'm not hurt.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: So Wentz played him, by the way against Pittsburgh, Yess,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: he did turn it over three times, but he looked decent.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: He improved on it. They're coming off their bye week,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: by the way.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: But yeah, boy, the Eagles mike both sides of the football.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: It's not just no, no, not both sides of the football.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Special team. Don't let them off the hook either, man.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I can't believe this.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: By the way, Sidney Brown, I know vic Vick has
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: had enough of Sidney Brown because because you saw what
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: happened black a ship leagues, who does he put in
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Marcus Absout just got elevated from the practice squad, and
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: another special he's spending from Sidney Brown. And Andrew Cheko
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: and I were talking earlier today. Andrew talk because he's
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: sitting in the press box. He said Brown came real
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: close to getting second penalty. I mean, at this point,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: what I know Citi Brown is a good special teams player.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: They clearly don't trust them on defense. And then these
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: I know that now that we'll get to the the
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: UH deposits in a second, but these special teams returns,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: are you serious?
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Terrible?
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Awful, awful, and they traded for multiple guys to try
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: to do that role.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Embarrassing, absolut Howie look two picks he gave their responses
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: that Bixby has a two year deal and he could
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: replace Dylan next year. That's fine, but it looks like
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: a disaster so far.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Sure does any positives in the night there at CAF.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Have a couple very quickly four penalties. I had to
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: really search for some time for season low because I
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: look at that stuff except the penalties only.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Four that's good.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Pats Protect was actually really good, Mike. They had a
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: couple of lapses Hurts him plenty of time. Goddard really
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: really good to see Hurts at Goddard, Mike and there
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: and there in their their chemistry which we saw training
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: camp as always saying I've learned my lesson. Just because
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: you see trade camp doesn't mean you'll see it in
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: the regular season. But what got her and Hurts are
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: doing well and bother Braidon Man and jake Yella. At
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: least those guys are.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: They're the best part of the football team right now.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Gonna good Man's legs is gonna fall off.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: My god, look the forward too. I know we're extremely negative.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: It's a job to tell the truth without purposely being it.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: How do you Because I'm looking at our YouTube board,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: people are going out of their minds. They want everyone fired,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: a couple because it always happens. One guy alluded to
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Laurie should sell the team. He didn't quite say that,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: but he hanted, I love these fans. I I actually
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: look forward to when I got up this one. I
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: could wait to read it because Jeff and I we
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: talked our show out a sixth cert. We actually taped
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: it this morning, by the way, and people were waiting
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: for us to post it. They were killing everyone. It's
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: actually a good theater, folks. If you want to get
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: a good laugh, free to chime in.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: My favorite part of my favorite part of the text
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: board is I'm watching the Phillies game last night and
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: people are hexting in while we're not even on the air.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: You know, ripping this, doing that. This guy's terrible, Fire Thompson.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: It's just uh, it's it's why we love what we do.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Some days, right, these are the days I do.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Real quick, what is your thoughts on top Er Starego.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I think they gotta replace him, not because I think
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: that he's the problem. I just don't. It's like Brett Brown.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: You just can't keep bringing him back again. It's over.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Like they tried four times. It hasn't worked. And here's
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the problem as I see it, I don't know how
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: they're gonna. Like everyone says, you gotta change this team,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know how they're gonna. You gotta get really
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: creative to change this team up. So you can't bring
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: back the manager and Harper and Turner and marsh and
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: real Muto and Schwarber, you know what I mean. Like
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: something has to change. So he basically has to be
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the sacrificial lamb.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: In my opinion, Mike, they have to have a brand
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: new outfield and that that's that'll happen. They know us,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: And I cannot believe that Dombrowski thought that the marsh
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: and Rojas center field was gonna work, Like my ninety
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: five year old mom knew that wouldn't work. Really dumb and.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: That and I just don't understand, and I don't understand.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: You never gave the kid Crawford a shot, like, Okay,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: this kid is having one of the three best statistical
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Minor league seasons in like the last ten years, and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: you never said, you know what, let's see if this
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: guy can be better than Rojas, like you give Rojas
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: a shot. By the way, you know what I saw
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the day that made me really open my eyes about Rojas.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Uh huh.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: He's only twenty five years old. That means in twenty
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: twenty two when he was up here on that he
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: was twenty two years old playing for you in the
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: World Series. Why was it okay for Rojas, which is
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: a nothing burger prospect for you, but the Crawford kid
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: doesn't get a shot. That whole thing. I'll never understand it.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: I'm with you, Mike.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: This is I wish we were doing a couple hours
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: here and talking about this because I was, you know,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: it's the one time in.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: My career, in life, I get to be a fan.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I was so mad the last two days.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: And if I hated the toper, I didn't let No
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Alla keep pitching.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: But uh, two nights ago. But anyway, I just that's.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: All, that's all mapped out beforehand.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I know it. But but I had not seen No.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Ninety five, Mike, that was incredible. I was.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: I had trouble sleeping that how much I was pissed off.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: But I'll be honest with you, I get to be
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: a fan sometimes.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, listen, it's it's That's the one thing that
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: really has saddens me about baseball is the feel is gone.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: It is all by the book.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: There's a lefty up the bat, you got to put
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: a lefty end there's a right up to bat, Like
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I said, in what universe does anybody walk? Alec Boem
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: But he's right handed. The picture, well he's right handed.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: The picture was left handed.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: And yeah, and they didn't play. They put my man
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: tenor Banks, and I thought Topper missed on that, but
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: we'll talk on Tuesday.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Mike, I'm sure all right. Man.
• 22:43
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