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9-29: Jerry Dipoto and John Stanton speak, Mike Macdonald updates on the Seahawks and Jori Epstein of Yahoo Sports · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 1: FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning. Back home in Seattle. Headlines are brought to
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  Speaker 2: you by Frost Brewed Coors Light. As cold as the Rockies.
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  Speaker 2: One day after Mariners announced Dan Wilson was out as manager,
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  Speaker 2: Mariners president of baseball operations, Jared DePoto, said of the
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  Speaker 2: team failing to make the playoffs for the ninth time
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  Speaker 2: in 11 years with DePoto in charge that, quote, the
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  Speaker 2: blame falls on me first. and that if he didn't
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  Speaker 2: have a job today, quote, I'd be justified. DePoto said
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  Speaker 2: of the Mariners, our culture needs a reset, and that
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  Speaker 2: he intends for the next manager to, unlike the other
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  Speaker 2: two in the last 11 years under DePoto, to have
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  Speaker 2: major league managerial experience after a, quote, exhaustive search. DePoto said, quote,
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  Speaker 2: this year's failure requires that we look outside to find
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  Speaker 2: someone who might be able to poke holes in what
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  Speaker 2: we're doing and help us see something that perhaps we're
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  Speaker 2: blind to.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, we'll hear a lot of it coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Jessamyn McIntyre was there yesterday, and we will hear more
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  Speaker 2: from Jerry DiPoto on the show. Seahawks coach Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 2: says after benching Jadarian Price for fumbling in the second
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  Speaker 2: time in two games Sunday at Washington, quote, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to continue to give him the ball. He also said
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  Speaker 2: after the team got back home yesterday from their first
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  Speaker 2: loss in 10 months that, quote, I love this team
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  Speaker 2: and their effort and their attitude Monday to improve and
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  Speaker 2: perfect the process of winning. He also said Julian Love
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  Speaker 2: has a chance to practice this week, his day-to-day with
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  Speaker 2: the calf injury that kept him out of the Washington game.
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  Speaker 2: Pro Bowl veteran safety, they need him in the back
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  Speaker 2: of the secondary for sure. Chicago third-string quarterback Case Keenum
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  Speaker 2: on his eighth NFL team lit up the Philadelphia Eagles
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  Speaker 2: in the Bears' 27-7 victory last night. Both teams are
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  Speaker 2: now 2-1. Jim Harbaugh, the coach of the 0-3 Chargers
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  Speaker 2: that come to Lumen Field on Sunday to play the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 2: says Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert, quote, has to be better.
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  Speaker 2: Herbert finished with 226 passing yards, one touchdown on an interception,
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  Speaker 2: and LA's loss to Buffalo on Sunday. Justin Herbert is
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  Speaker 2: the 30th in the NFL in passer rating right now.
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  Speaker 2: He's three touchdowns, four interceptions, third most INTs in the league,
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  Speaker 2: eight sacks in three games. He's completed only 59% of
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  Speaker 2: his throws, 7% under his career average. The NHL regular
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  Speaker 2: season begins today with five games. ESPN is broadcasting a
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  Speaker 2: tripleheader beginning this afternoon with Florida at the defending Stanley
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  Speaker 2: Cup champion Carolina Hurricanes, Montreal's at Toronto, the Rangers at Boston.
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  Speaker 2: Vancouver's at Edmonton, Chicago's at Vegas to open the NHL
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  Speaker 2: season today. The Kraken open their season Thursday in Calgary
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  Speaker 2: right here in your home for the Kraken 93.3 KJR.
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  Speaker 2: The Major League Baseball playoffs that the Mariners aren't in
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  Speaker 2: for the 44th time in 50 seasons begin today. Start
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  Speaker 2: of the best of three wildcard round. Phillies at Braves
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  Speaker 2: are starting the morning. White Sox-Astros, a bullpen game. Both
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  Speaker 2: teams are having a bullpen committee game in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's really weird.
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  Speaker 2: Is Luis Castillo going to start that game for the
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  Speaker 2: White Sox? He's been in the bullpen lately in Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: That's an afternoon game. Red Sox-Yankees, primetime on the East Coast,
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  Speaker 2: 8 o'clock at Yankee Stadium. 5 o'clock our time, and
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  Speaker 2: the Cubs pod raises the nightcap 7 o'clock. All games
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  Speaker 2: on NBC, NBC Sports Network, and Peacock for the wildcard round.
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  Speaker 2: And the U.S. Senate last night passed the Protect College
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  Speaker 2: Sports Act. It's been in the works for almost this
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  Speaker 2: entire year. The bill provides the NCAA with antitrust exemption
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  Speaker 2: to help enforce a cap on how much teams can
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  Speaker 2: play their athletes. If the bill becomes law and it
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  Speaker 2: still has to go through the House, athletes would be
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  Speaker 2: limited to transferring just one time without penalty during their
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  Speaker 2: college career. None of those six transfers.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't this used to be that way?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It would reinforce NCAA rules that limit athletes to a
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  Speaker 2: five-year window to compete in college that begins either when
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  Speaker 2: they finish high school or they turn 19 years old.
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  Speaker 2: The bill, again, still must pass the House of Representatives,
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  Speaker 2: which may not happen. A vote there in the house
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  Speaker 2: may not happen until late November or after the new
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  Speaker 2: year begins on me. Christopher Kidd is back in the house.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: This morning he was on the air.
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  Speaker 5: Thank goodness.
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  Speaker 2: Producer and contributing to Chuck Powell's morning show. Yeah, thank goodness.
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  Speaker 2: Great to see Chris. He called me at 6.55 this
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  Speaker 2: morning to be on Chuck's show at 7. It was
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  Speaker 2: such a welcome call.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I love that.
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  Speaker 6: To hear Chris.
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  Speaker 3: I bear hugged him when I saw him yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was great. Like he never left. Chris Kidd,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be back now. He's the producer for
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  Speaker 2: the morning show. He's got the early shift. Jess from
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  Speaker 2: McIntyre and I, Greg Bell here, 10 a.m. to noon
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  Speaker 2: on 93.3 KJRFM. We get to see each other again
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  Speaker 2: instead of doing.
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  Speaker 3: This remote computer.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: You are all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: For now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was on the East Coast back from the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: Trip was in New York yesterday. And now back here
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  Speaker 2: in Seattle where a lot has happened since I left
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday.
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  Speaker 7: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about Jerry DiPoto. We've talked so much about the
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  Speaker 2: president of baseball operations. Well, he got to tell his
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  Speaker 2: side of the story yesterday. Jess, when you were there,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen him described as contrite yesterday. We don't know
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  Speaker 2: him as that here. We know him as the opposite.
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  Speaker 2: We know him as uncontrite. How was he to you?
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  Speaker 4: He seemed nervous, to be honest. He definitely didn't have
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  Speaker 4: that same. I have people, and these aren't my words,
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  Speaker 4: but people kind of have that salesman charm. They would
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  Speaker 4: use that to describe him. He did not have that whatsoever.
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  Speaker 4: He just seemed dejected and slightly.
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  Speaker 3: Nervous, to be honest.
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  Speaker 2: Was he humble, do you think?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that man gets humble. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It did not come off as humbled.
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  Speaker 2: Well said.
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  Speaker 4: It came off of As standing in front of a
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  Speaker 4: firing squad, to be honest.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, there were darts that were thrown.
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  Speaker 2: Were they pointing questions?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Softie asked the best ones, to be honest.
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  Speaker 4: And, I mean, he flat-out asked him, and you'll hear
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  Speaker 4: it in a minute here, but he flat-out asked him
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  Speaker 4: if he still deserves his job.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I do. I want to get paid. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: to Softie's credit, he was there asking questions, as was.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, everyone asks good questions.
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  Speaker 3: I'll give them that.
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  Speaker 4: And then also people need to understand beat writers are
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  Speaker 4: the ones, as you've said several times, that have to
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  Speaker 4: continue to show up and continue to have access. And
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  Speaker 4: I know that Softie can go there and ask maybe
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  Speaker 4: something that they wouldn't ask. But that's what the fan
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  Speaker 4: wants to hear. And that's what we are here at
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  Speaker 4: this station.
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  Speaker 2: That's a line I walk all the time between what
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  Speaker 2: a fan wants to hear and wants the questions answered.
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  Speaker 2: with the Seahawks versus what I can get away with
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  Speaker 2: asking without just being blackballed and say, I'm not talking
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  Speaker 2: to you anymore, which happens in this business. So I do,
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  Speaker 2: I think about how do I, it's, I constantly, when
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  Speaker 2: I'm asking questions go through my head, how do I
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  Speaker 2: frame this? So it's not confrontational yet. It gets to
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  Speaker 2: the heart of what a fan might want to know.
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  Speaker 2: And that takes some experience and skill and bumping into
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  Speaker 2: walls and messing up a few times. So yes, Jessamyn's right.
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  Speaker 2: You'll hear from, Jerry DiPoto and what he had to say.
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  Speaker 2: A best of Jerry DiPoto, if there was a thing
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  Speaker 2: yesterday from his 30 minutes or so. You'll hear about
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  Speaker 2: nine minutes of that. Mariners principal John Stanton also talked yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: He sat down with King 5's Paul Silvey. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: Paul Silvey deserves a little bit of attaboy. He was
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  Speaker 2: in the press box with me in Washington into Sunday
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  Speaker 2: evening with his King 5 postgame show. Then he got
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  Speaker 2: on a plane. He got on the plane at one
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  Speaker 2: of the seats that I gave up to stay in
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  Speaker 2: New York an extra day. I was going to get
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  Speaker 2: on the 7 a.m. out of Dulles back to Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: And Paul switched to get on that to get back
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  Speaker 2: in time for the press conference and the Mariners to do.
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  Speaker 2: And he went straight to the station and went straight
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  Speaker 2: to the yard, which is right across the street from
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  Speaker 2: the station, King 5's right across the street from T-Mobile Park,
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  Speaker 2: to sit down with John Stanton. And then he had
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  Speaker 2: me on the show and he taped a segment on
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  Speaker 2: his King 5 Ultimate Sports show that airs at 3
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  Speaker 2: o'clock every day on King 5. He taped it at 1.15.
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  Speaker 2: So man, was that guy really busy yesterday with not
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  Speaker 2: much sleep. But he, Paul Silvey, talked to John Stanton.
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  Speaker 2: You'll hear what Stanton said about this failure of a season.
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  Speaker 2: And Paul Silvey, speaking of asking questions fans want to know,
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  Speaker 2: he said, what do you say to fans who think
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  Speaker 2: you're not committed to winning? That you're more worried about
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  Speaker 2: the business side and not the winning a World Series side?
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  Speaker 2: He asked John Stanton that, and you'll hear John Stanton's
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  Speaker 2: answer to that. We'll talk about why the Seahawks aren't
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  Speaker 2: phased about their first loss in 10 games. You'll also
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  Speaker 2: hear about Mike McDonald talking about the situations with Jadarian
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  Speaker 2: Price's fumbling with Julian Love's injury, with Nick Emanwuri's playing time,
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  Speaker 2: and how they're using him in the defense now that
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: he's back from that ankle surgery. I asked the coach
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: yesterday about Josh Jobe's trouble covering Terry McLaurin. Of course,
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of people in the NFL who
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: have had trouble for decades trying to cover Terry McLaurin,
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: the Washington wide receiver. But I also asked McDonald, and
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: you'll hear his answer about whether former Cowboys All-Pro cornerback
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: Trevon Diggs is going to play for the Seahawks anytime soon. Remember,
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  Speaker 2: he's been on the ramp-up plan after not getting here,
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  Speaker 2: signed until late August, not practicing since January. Well, is
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: he ready to play, and is he an option off
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: the practice squad? They've got an All-Pro cornerformer. All-pro cornerback
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  Speaker 2: on their practice squad who hasn't played it down yet
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: for the Seahawks. 11 o'clock, our weekly visit with Jory Epstein,
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  Speaker 2: the senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports from New York City.
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  Speaker 2: I've already connected with her. She's ready to go. She's
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: going to tell us all about what Jim Harbaugh's Chargers
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: are 0-3 for coming into Seattle this week. About the
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: Giants being 2-1. About the Raiders being 3-0 with Clint Kubiak.
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  Speaker 2: Lots to talk about around the NFL with our friend Jory.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks to Zeke's Pizza and Zeke'sPizza.com at 11 o'clock. 11.30,
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• 9:52
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• 10:14
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  Speaker 2: And I said, wasn't at the yard yesterday to hear
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  Speaker 2: Jerry DePoto. Of course, I saw the comments that he
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  Speaker 2: made afterwards, and that was the news of the day yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: He said, quote, our culture needs a reset. And then
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  Speaker 2: he asked himself, what is culture? Nobody asked him that.
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  Speaker 2: He did. He said, it's the standards you're willing to uphold.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you already had this clip, part of what he
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  Speaker 2: had to say. But that's all right. We can play
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  Speaker 2: that next segment.
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  Speaker 3: We have a very large portion of Jerry.
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  Speaker 2: DePoto that we should get to.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get nine minutes next.
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  Speaker 2: We'll save that for the next segment.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: He talked about the lack of accountability that Cal Raleigh, J.P. Crawford,
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  Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert talked about. And at one point, DePoto said, quote,
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  Speaker 2: I did an ineffective job of making sure that we
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  Speaker 2: held one another accountable because we started with standards and
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  Speaker 2: it faded. That's not just on our players. That's on me.
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  Speaker 2: It's on our front office group. It's on the staff
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  Speaker 2: and the players collectively. But he talked about this culture
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  Speaker 2: and this accountability. And he said the culture is, quote,
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  Speaker 2: it's the standards you're willing to uphold, Jerry DiPoto said.
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  Speaker 2: It's the belief systems you share. It's what you're willing
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  Speaker 2: to tolerate. And this year we tolerated an environment where
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  Speaker 2: we just didn't live up to our own standards. That's
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  Speaker 2: where we need to reset. To me, that is pointing
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  Speaker 2: a finger directly at Dan Wilson. I'm not sure why
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  Speaker 2: a president of baseball operations would not be able to
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  Speaker 2: affect that culture and what you're willing to tolerate. Because
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  Speaker 2: the president of baseball operations can direct Jerry DePoto to say,
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  Speaker 2: Julio Rodriguez, you threw the ball in the stands in
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  Speaker 2: Milwaukee with one out. You sit for a couple of
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  Speaker 2: days and think about that. Josh Naylor, you didn't run
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  Speaker 2: out of double playground ball in the game I went
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  Speaker 2: to in Oakland last month. You sit and think about that.
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  Speaker 2: But that never happened. And that didn't happen from Dan Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: And that didn't happen from Jerry DePoto, who could have
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  Speaker 2: absolutely made that happen. Jerry DePoto pushes a lot of
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  Speaker 2: buttons that go on in that dugout, including iPad baseball.
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  Speaker 2: And for him not to push those buttons, as he
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  Speaker 2: put it at the start of his talk yesterday, is
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  Speaker 2: on him. And so that accountability and culture piece needs
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  Speaker 2: to change with him as well as the new manager
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  Speaker 2: he brings in. If you missed the news yesterday, it
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  Speaker 2: was during our show. They also got rid of most
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  Speaker 2: of the coaching staff other than the pitching coaches. Everybody else,
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  Speaker 2: base coaches, hitting coaches, including Kevin Seitzer, the head hitting coach,
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  Speaker 2: they're gone. Maniacta, gone. Eric Young, base coach, gone. And
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  Speaker 2: so they are starting mostly over inside the dugout, yet
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  Speaker 2: they are not starting over those at the top of
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  Speaker 2: the dugout. Those are the overseeing the dugout. Those are
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  Speaker 2: the baseball operations chiefs. Justin Hollander is returning, and Jerry
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  Speaker 2: DiPoto is going to return for a 12th season as
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  Speaker 2: the president of baseball operations. 49451, when you hear him say,
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  Speaker 2: Jerry DiPoto, that we need to change the culture with
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners, how do you feel about Jerry DiPoto being
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  Speaker 2: in charge of that culture change and the man- that's
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  Speaker 2: going to bring in a new manager.
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  Speaker 3: He was very emphatic that they're going outside.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They're going external.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a departure, right? It was Scott Service, who
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  Speaker 2: DePoto had worked with with the Angels, who had never
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  Speaker 2: been a manager but had been on benches in the
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  Speaker 2: major leagues, former catcher. And then it was Dan Wilson
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  Speaker 2: just plucked out a semi-retirement figurehead status with no experience
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  Speaker 2: coaching anybody, except a girls' softball team his daughter was
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  Speaker 2: once on. That's it. So that alone is a start,
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  Speaker 2: I guess.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah. I think back to that 95 team, right?
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  Speaker 4: And people don't want the retread of 95. How did
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  Speaker 4: the players from that team feel about this? Dan stepped
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  Speaker 4: in in a situation where he was underprepared because he
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  Speaker 4: didn't have the experience and still stepped up and did
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  Speaker 4: it and did what he did last year. And this
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  Speaker 4: year didn't go the way they planned. It's like he
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  Speaker 4: did them a solid job. And then all of a
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  Speaker 4: sudden just gets, I mean, you'll hear it next segment,
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  Speaker 4: but Softie flat out asked him if he was fired
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  Speaker 4: or if he resigned. And Jerry DiPoto said, those are
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  Speaker 4: personal questions. So, and they will remain personal. Gather from
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  Speaker 4: that what you will. But I think the sentiment is
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  Speaker 4: that he was let go.
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  Speaker 3: And- We don't know. That remains private.
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  Speaker 4: But I will also say that I wonder how the guys,
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  Speaker 4: how your Edgar Martinez is, your Jay Buhners, your Ken
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  Speaker 4: Griffey Jrs, like those who spend a lot of time
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  Speaker 4: around this organization. I wonder how they feel about that
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  Speaker 4: because that's our guy. And we all know Dan Wilson
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  Speaker 4: is a good friend and a great person.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm speaking third person, but I was told during
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks game that Ken Griffey Jr. spoke on the
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Mariners podcast. radio broadcast on Sunday and talked about a
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  Speaker 2: need for a culture change in the clubhouse. And he
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  Speaker 2: thought that the current way that the clubhouse operates is
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  Speaker 2: not going to win. It's not going to work. So
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  Speaker 2: there's one guy from that team. Here's somebody else in
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  Speaker 2: the past that at first glance, you might say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to bring another luminary from Mariners history to
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  Speaker 2: be the manager. Raul Abanez is getting a lot of
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  Speaker 2: talk nationally already to be the next Mariners manager.
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  Speaker 3: I really am a big fan of Raul.
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  Speaker 2: He has spent a lot of time in what I've
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: read to be a very large role in the Los
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  Speaker 2: Angeles Dodgers front office in the last half dozen years
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  Speaker 2: or so. And a lot of people around Major League
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Baseball believe Raul Ibanez is going to be a manager
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: sooner than later. I heard John Palmarosi talk about this yesterday,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: that around baseball circles, they think Raul Ibanez is getting
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: a job soon to be a field manager in a
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: dugout in the Major Leagues. And why not Seattle? He
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: has more experience than Dan Wilson does, in the least
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: that he is in a World Series champion organization in
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: the front office doing baseball operations, but not on the field.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: So that would be yet another hire of not having
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: major league managerial experience. You're saying it sounded like DiPoto
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: wants somebody who's been in a dugout in the major
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: leagues before.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: Yes, he said he did not say it was a prerequisite.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: What he said is that it's preferred.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Tori Lovello, the manager of the Arizona Diamondbacks, gets mentioned
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: a lot. Steven Voigt is the manager of the Cleveland Guardians,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: who has an offseason home in Tumwater. He and his
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: wife do.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: That's the biggest name that I've seen put out there.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Yes. The problem, of course, is he keeps taking the
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Guardians to the playoffs every year. So why would the
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Guardians give him up for free?
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: He's going to make him very difficult to leave and
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: probably offer him a huge, huge contract extension. The Guardians
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: are back in the play. They're the number two seed
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: in the American League right now for the playoffs. But
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: it is interesting to hear that he at least, DePoto,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: recognizes they need to go outside of what they've done
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: so far in the manager spot.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Yes, that they're not going to keep retreading, which I
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: think a lot of fans have had an issue with. Like,
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: please stop rolling out these good memories from the past.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: We need to do something.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, so that's a plus. 49451, I would think that
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: you're encouraged on the text line. At least there's that,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: that they're going to go outside the organization and manager
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: with experience. Then it begs the question, well, what manager
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: with experience wants to come here and work for iPad
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: baseball man? I mean, that really becomes the rub. Who
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: is going to come here? Forget about a Joe Maddon.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I cannot imagine Joe Maddon would even interview here with
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: knowing how the Mariners play and the handedness and the
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: iPad baseball. I keep using the term iPad baseball because
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: to me that just encapsulates everything they do. The analytics
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: and the numbers driven and the exit velocities.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Well, You know, that started on the writer's side of things.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: And I feel like it just like merged with actual
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: clubhouses and operations. I mean, I know there was the
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Billy Bean era and everything, but they didn't use iPads.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I went through that.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: I just think that.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: And bringing Edgar in as the batting coach helped a
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: lot because he kind of like translated it instead of like,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: you don't need to worry and think about these analytics
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: when you're going up to bat. You don't go, okay,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: this guy pitches at this point and he's at 0.339. Okay,
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: just go and hit. Like he was just a hitting coach.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: And I thought that that was really good for the
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: team as well. But it has fallen off.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: To me, if you want to get a manager with
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: proven Major League winning experience, maybe one who's been to
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: a World Series, maybe a Joe Madden type. Again, Madden,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I can't see even wanting to sniff the Pacific Northwest.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: But if you want to get that, do you, Jerry DiPoto,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: have to release your manager? death grip on iPad baseball
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: and lording over a manager, making him do things by
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: the numbers. You've got to let a manager be managed,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: manage the game, manage his players, manage from his gut,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: manage how he knows instinctively and not bring in Rob
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: ref Schneider when it looks obvious that he's not going
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: to get a hit just because they brought a left-handed
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: pitcher and things like that, that he, the photo, if
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: they want to change, they got to change stuff like that.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: And ditch the iPads, leave them up for a nice
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: little advisory thing, and like the Seahawks do, have them
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: as a resource to refer to. But Mike McDonald doesn't
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: do everything by the iPad and the numbers. He's got
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Brian Ayers and guys who do it for him and
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: tell him what the numbers say in certain situations, including
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: in his ear during a game. But Mike McDonald still
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: coaches with guts and instinct and what he knows and
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: sees and feels in the moment. I didn't see that
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: at all this year. I saw paint-by-numbers analytics baseball from
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: an iPad. And how are you going to get a
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: proven major league manager? who's won games and won titles
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: in this league to do that? That, to me, is
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the challenge. I mean, if Jerry DiPoto wants to change,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: start there and let baseball people manage. Up next, you'll
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: hear from the baseball operations president of the Mariners, And
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: his talk yesterday, the greatest hits of the 30-minute talk
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: he had with the media, next on 93.3 KJRFM.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: This report is sponsored by Taco Bell.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Welcome back. Greg Bell and Jessamyn McIntyre with you on
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: 93.3 KJRFM. A day after Jerry DiPoto, the president of
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Mariners baseball operations, spoke for 30 minutes to the media
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: the day after he, it appears he, fired, or John Stanton,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: both fired Dan Wilson as the manager after two full
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: seasons in the pratfall of this season. The worst, most
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: disappointing season ever for a team that should be in
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the playoffs and absolutely should be contending for a World Series.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Jessam McIntyre was there at T-Mobile Park yesterday, and she
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: compiled what she thought were the best of comments of
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: those 30 minutes. This was Jerry DiPoto yesterday to the media.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Obviously, some level of blame for this season's failure. How
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: much blame do you and the front office take and
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: kind of assess out what all went wrong this season?
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Kind of parsing out blame. Collectively, we failed. We failed
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: to play up to our own expectations, which are very high,
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: commensurate with the expectations that were put on us externally.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: We have a very talented roster. We were seven outs
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: away from a World Series 11 months ago. And we
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: just collectively underperformed in every area. Obviously, the changes that
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: we made with Dan, with the coaching staff, much of
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: it was focused on the position player side. And that
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: wasn't the only struggle we had. Our pitching staff really,
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: especially in the second half, came up short. of its
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: typical expectations and all these things. This is what I'm
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: in charge of, is overseeing all of it. So the
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: blame falls on me first. And, you know, I guess
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: part of my job is making decisions for how to
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: get better and make sure this doesn't happen again. And,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: you know, it happened. And failure is only failure if
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: you don't learn from it. We're hoping to learn these
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: lessons and move forward in a productive way. Jerry, what
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: did you learn? We're still working on that. If we
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: would have had the answers, we wouldn't be talking about
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: this today. You mentioned the pitching. It looks like Pete
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: and Trent's coming back.
• 22:43
  Speaker 8: What kind of went to that decision to retain them?
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Their goodness over time and the quality of the programs
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: that they have put together are unquestionably awesome. Those guys
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: communicate incredibly well. Our pitchers love them for what they provide.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: Trent has all the TLC in the world and the
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: ability to keep guys healthy and moving forward. And Woody
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: is as good a messenger as exists in that clubhouse space.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: And from 2021 until today, we are.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: Until mid-season of 2026, we're one of the three or
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: four best pitching staffs, one through 13, in MLB. And
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: we don't want to take three months and use that
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: as the criteria to ruin a program that has been
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: the backbone of what we've done for a decade. Jerry,
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: you made the decision to let go of Dan over
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: the weekend. did you consider moving on from him earlier
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: in the year and why did you wait until the
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: end of the season? The answer to the question is
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: it's an ongoing assessment. The end of the season is
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: the end of the season. As the season went along,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: making in-season change is difficult. I've only done that once
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: in my entire career. We obviously at mid-season, we did
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: something that we've really not done, which is upset the
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: apple cart and Letting go of Bobby Magallanes was step one.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: We have been trying to find ways to create more
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: urgency with the team on the field than we were
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: seeing day to day. And yeah, I mean, these conversations
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: don't just pop up. You don't wake up one morning
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: and say, this is it. Clearly it was a thought
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: as the season went along. But out of respect to Dan,
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: the clubhouse downstairs, we decided at a certain point, this
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: is our group. We're either going to make it with
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: them or make decisions once the season draws to a close.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: And we did.
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: Was he let go or did he resign?
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Those are personal issues that I think should remain personal.
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: And then for you, one of the questions we get
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: a lot is, This is now your third manager in
• 24:49
  Speaker 9: four years, obviously. After 11 years on the job, people
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: wonder why you should continue to get a crack at
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: doing this.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: What do you say to that? You know, I say
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: that it's fair that they ask those questions. I wake
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: up and I look in the mirror every day trying
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: to figure out why this happened. For the last five years,
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: we were one of the winningest teams in Major League Baseball.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: This year, we stunk. And it never got on track.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: And again, that's on me first. I'm just trying to
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: find solutions.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: The.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: I feel proud of what we've built organizationally over these years.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: You know, 11 years, it's two different tenures that I've had.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: And in the last six years, I feel proud of
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: what we've accomplished on the field. It's been complete. And
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: this year was an opportunity to take that next or
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: final step, and we just didn't. And if I didn't
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: have a job today, it would be justified. You know,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: we failed. And, again, we're going to attempt to learn
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: from that failure and lean into what I think is–
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: a great foundation to build on with homegrown players up
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: the middle, a complete rotation that I think many in
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: the league would love to have, and just reset our
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: culture and refocus ourselves on what we need to do
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: to get back to an efficient, clean, crisp brand of
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: baseball like the Mariners have played for a number of years.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: What is your criteria then for hiring a new manager?
• 26:11
  Speaker 10: Is experience at the major league level in a managerial
• 26:13
  Speaker 10: position a prerequisite?
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Not a prerequisite. It would be preferred. We will go
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: outside to hire our manager. We need fresh thought. We
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: need something new. It could be a shift in programming.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: It could be a shift in messaging. It could be
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: a shift in language. We'll collaborate with whoever our future
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: manager is and try to find the right person. If
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: that person has major league managerial experience, that would be preferred.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: But generally speaking, we're just looking for someone who has
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: high character, growth mindset, has the ability to think strategically
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: in the context of a major league game when that
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: happens very quickly. Obviously, we are one of 30 teams
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: in our league. Many would share the same criteria. There
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: are a lot of good people out there, and most
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: of what we've done, in recent years especially, has been insular.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: And I think this year's failure requires that we look
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: outside to find someone who might be able to poke
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: holes in what we're doing and help us see something
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: that perhaps we're blind to. Because, you know, obviously this
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: is not been what we intended nor what we expected.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: From our team.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: Specifically with the pitching, that's been such a backbone of
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: what you guys have done for a long time. With
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: it going as far south as it did after the end,
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: do you have any kind of sense of What happened
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: there collectively, both bullpen and starting rotation with almost everybody
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: across the board in some form or fashion? Yeah, you know,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: we've had a culture of relentless filling of the strike zone.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: That's what we do. You know, we get ahead, we
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: stay ahead, we work ahead. Where we struggled this year
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: was we struggled in our two-strike execution, particularly in the
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: second half of the season. It's something our pitchers are
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: aware of. All of them have talked about it openly
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: in private discussion, and we know that's an area we
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: need to focus on moving forward. Trent and Woody talk
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: about it regularly and regularly. You know, it's something that
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: happened over time. We got so focused on winning our
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: 0-0 and winning our 1-1 that we forgot that was
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: only a proxy for the greater goal, which was finishing
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: the at-bat. And, you know, our prompt became the goal
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: at times. And that's not what we were ever intending. And, again,
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: we let it get away from us. And perhaps, you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: new eyes, new voice, new thoughts can stop that from
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: happening in the next year.
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: I think a lot of people have a different definition
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: of what that may mean. What does that mean to you,
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: and are there examples of that maybe going.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: Awry this year a little bit? Our culture needs a reset.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: This team, without a doubt, we showed up, again, from
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: 2022 to 2025, and we had shortcomings, we had flaws,
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: but we played well. We were relentless in our strike throwing.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: We were grinders in the batter's box. We played buttoned-up,
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: efficient defense with or without rangy players. And we didn't
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: beat ourselves. That was Mariners baseball for five years, and
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: that wasn't what we did this year. We showed up,
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: and all of those things were well below our standards.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: What is culture? It's the standards you're willing to uphold.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: It's the belief systems you share. It's what you're willing
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: to tolerate. And this year we tolerated an environment where
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: we just didn't live up to our own standards. And
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: that's where we need to reset.
• 29:39
  Speaker 10: So with that said, when you took over 11 years ago,
• 29:42
  Speaker 10: you took over a team that was 76-86.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: This year, 76-86.
• 29:44
  Speaker 10: Do you believe that you're closer today to winning a
• 29:48
  Speaker 10: World Series with this group, and what will give you
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: confidence that you are?
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Like I said, 11 months ago, we were seven outs away.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: It's roughly the same group of players. Right now, we
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: have a group of young players. We have six major
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: league starters who are all homegrown and under the age
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: of 30. We have the runner-up in the MVP from
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: a year ago who's our homegrown catcher. We have the
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: center fielder who is a homegrown player. He's 25 years old,
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: has been a top ten in the MVP three times
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: in the last five years. Colt Emerson, Cole Young, Brendan Donovan,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Dom Canzone, Josh Naylor. This is a really talented roster.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: and none of those guys are outside the prime years
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: of their careers. There's no reason why we shouldn't be
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: able to reset, look ourselves in the mirror. And I
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: know our players. We've had a lot of conversation privately
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: with our roster of players this past week, and I
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: know every one of them is already hungry to come
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: back and prove that this was an aberration.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Jerry DiPoto yesterday, president of baseball operations, saying they're not
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: going to be– Insular, as they've been the last couple
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: of years, are going to go look for the outside man,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the outside of the organization for a manager. We need, quote,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: we need fresh thought. We need something new. Major League
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Baseball managerial experience is, quote, not a prerequisite, but preferred.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: It is preferred. Mariners principal John Stanton had an interview
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: with King 5's Paul Silvey in a TV exclusive yesterday
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: from T-Mobile Park. Here's what John Stanton said about the
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: ownership's commitment to winning a World Series.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you hear the outside noise. You try to
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: block it out sometimes, but people come at you and
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: they say, you know, sell the team and be more
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: aggressive out there and act like you want to win
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and do something about winning.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Like, when you hear all that.
• 31:38
  Speaker 11: Stuff, because you have to hear it, what's your response
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: to that?
• 31:43
  Speaker 12: Well, I guess I hear that. Selling a team is
• 31:49
  Speaker 12: inherently a risky proposition. in that you don't know what
• 31:52
  Speaker 12: the interest of the new owner will be. We're committed
• 31:55
  Speaker 12: to owning the team. This is now the ownership group,
• 31:59
  Speaker 12: I think, is the second or third longest-serving ownership group
• 32:02
  Speaker 12: in baseball, and we're committed to staying here. We're also
• 32:06
  Speaker 12: committed to winning, and the only way I can prove
• 32:09
  Speaker 12: that is by us winning and continuing to make commitments
• 32:13
  Speaker 12: like increasing the payroll each of the last five years,
• 32:16
  Speaker 12: being willing to trade and pick up important players, that
• 32:19
  Speaker 12: we think will make a difference. Luis Castillo made a
• 32:22
  Speaker 12: huge difference for us for four years, and we're appreciative
• 32:25
  Speaker 12: of that. Josh Naylor makes a big difference. We picked
• 32:29
  Speaker 12: him up at the trade deadline and then signed him
• 32:32
  Speaker 12: to an extension. We've done that in a number of cases,
• 32:36
  Speaker 12: and from our point of view, our commitment to winning
• 32:41
  Speaker 12: and our commitment to continuing to win and to make
• 32:43
  Speaker 12: changes when necessary in order to win is the best
• 32:47
  Speaker 12: evidence I can offer that we are committed. Payroll is
• 32:52
  Speaker 12: related to success. It is not the reason for success.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: That's John Stanton, the principal owner of two dozen owners
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: of the Mariners who are profiting in the top half
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: of the league while spending on player payroll in the
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: bottom half of the league. He said, quote, John Stanton said, quote,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: we are committed to winning. And he cited increasing the
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: payroll for each of the last five years. Well, there
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: are their profits have gone up and revenues have gone
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: up each of the last five years as well. And
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: they get luxury tax revenues from teams like the Dodgers
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: and the Yankees and the Cubs that spend above the
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: threshold that the Mariners are below. And those luxury tax
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: revenues go up each year too. So yeah, you could
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: say technically they've increased payroll, but just like in the
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: NFL and the salary cap goes up every year. So
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: you pay more for players, same in major league baseball,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: your revenues go up, your luxury tax revenues go up,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the luxury tax payments from the Halves at the top
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: of the league go up. So, yeah, I hope you're
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: increasing player payroll while pocketing the extra revenue. But the
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: fact is they aren't making the splash moves. Maybe they
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: can't make the splash move. This might be related to
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: the manager. Who are you going to bring here to
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: be a player in this situation in Seattle? The park,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: the whole perception of marine layer, of being a hitter
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: unfriendly park, and now the organization getting a new manager.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: They don't know who that is. Not exactly right for
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: bringing in the top free agent on the market this winter.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact there may be a lockout
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: December 1st.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: There's a lot.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: I know that Jerry DiPoto also addressed that because he
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: was asked about it. And they're operating as though 2027
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: will happen.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: And he has to.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: You have to.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Right. And when free agency begins in December, he has
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: to operate that way. But when free agency begins in December,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: there may be a player lockout. On top of everything
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: else the Mariners are dealing with, there's that. Four, nine, four, five, one.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Your thoughts on hearing from the president of baseball operations
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: and the chairman principal owner of the Mariners. They're back
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: to back. Does it make you feel better? Worse? I,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: you know, listening to Jerry DePoto, I know people said
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: he was contrite and you said he was nervous, but
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: the words, it did in person. I'm sure it did.
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  Speaker 2: But the words sound like the same words from the
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  Speaker 2: last 11 years. When he asked about failing this year,
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  Speaker 2: he said, well, you had the best, One of the
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: best one-loss records in Major League Baseball for five years.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: He had to toot his own horn there before he
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: started talking about this year's failure.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: I don't know, man.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Again, I go back to the baseball operations need to change,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: and the president of baseball operations is going to go
• 35:27
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• 36:58
  Speaker 2: The bulk of the comments there. To the Seahawks, they
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: have the Chargers. 0-3 Chargers coming in to Lumen Field
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: on Sunday. Jim Harbaugh got a quarterback problem with a sub-60%
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: passing quarterback who's 30th in the league in passer rating.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: That's Justin Herbert. The Seahawks, though, have some own issues themselves.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: One of them is Jedardian Price's fumbles. The rookie running
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: back benched in Washington after a fumble on his third
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: carry four minutes into the game. sat in a raincoat
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: for much of the first half, only had two carries
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the rest of the day after that fumble early in
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: the first quarter. This is what Mike McDonald had to
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: say in his vote of confidence for the rookie first-round
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: pick yesterday.
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: With your offensive running game yesterday, how much of it,
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: I guess, do you look at was Washington's a really
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: good defense versus things you guys could have done better?
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: And then just with Zidarian as well, when you looked
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: at his fumble, just kind of what you saw there
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: and what's the teaching point there?
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: It's both.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Credit to Washington.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: Did a great job.
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: And also we feel like there's plenty of room to grow.
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: So I think it's a function of in real time
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: execution and also finding solutions as the game goes. Also
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: the way the game was going of some things we
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: wanted to be able to do offensively in the pass
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: game and in the screen game. So I think it's
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: a process thing. I think we stick to our process. Really,
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: with our whole team right now, the message after the
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: game was I think we'd feel the same way after
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: the game, whether or not we closed it out and
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: found a way to win or the way it shook out. Really,
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: every tentacle from coming out of the game of where
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: can we grow, how can we make our process better,
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: that's been the mentality every day, or today at least.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: With JD, he understands what's going on. He needs to
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: take care of the ball.
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: I think there's some things fundamentally where We can focus
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: on and we're going to continue giving the ball.
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: We trust him.
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: And we know he's going to work really hard to
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: do his part as well.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: We're going to continue giving him the ball. We trust him.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price told me in the locker room in Maryland
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: on Sunday, I got to think more about holding onto
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the ball instead of trying to gain extra yards. It's
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: a mindset thing I got to change. Julian Love missed
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: the Washington game. Calf injury in practice last week on Thursday.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Will he play against the Chargers on Sunday at deep safety?
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: They really missed him. Had two practice squad safeties starting
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: deep instead. McDonald said Love quote is day-to-day. We'll see
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: if he practices on Wednesday or Thursday of this week.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Nicky Manwari played up on the line of scrimmage for
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: the defense. on 52 of the defensive snaps a week
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: after a season debut of just nine snaps in arizona
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: that's still 52 far below his norm mcdonald said it's
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: time to move around the defense from front to back
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: like they used them so well last season.
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: Thought nick had a good game um there's some really
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: great plays uh it'll continue to get better. I think,
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: I think he should be really proud of how he's
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: approached last week mentally. I think that's one of the
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: things to answer. Brian's question is something that we want
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: to discuss as a staff of just, you know, what,
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: what the process is every week of, of how, how, where,
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: and how often he plays. And so we can have
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: a really focused game plan because where he plays really
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: affects the position group around him because he's playing out
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: of really three position groups. So that's something that we'll
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: continue to, think about and make better, but he's, he's
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: done a great job.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: That tells me the Nick Amon worry experience is returning
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: on Sunday against the chargers. He's had his two games
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: back half stepping a little half speed, a little bit
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: got taken out in third down situations. Look for him
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: to be on the line as a hybrid Sam linebacker
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: back in the secondary, a little bit, everything like he
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: was just messing up offenses last season. Expect that starting Sunday.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: from Nicky Manwari now that he's two games back from
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: his ankle surgery. Josh Joe's had a tough time covering
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin on Sunday, including a touchdown catch that spun
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: him around in the end zone. McDonald said again that
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: the coaches love Joe and that a lot of guys
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: in the league have trouble covering McLaurin. Doesn't sound like
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: McDonald's thinking about Trevon Diggs taking Joe's outside cornerback job.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Remember Diggs? 2021 All-Pro cornerback. Signed him late in August.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: They were spinning him up, getting him football ready and
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: defense ready. McDonald said yesterday, yeah, he's becoming an option now.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: He's ready to go, and he's past that ramp-up period physically.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: So he didn't say, though, that you're going to see
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Trevon Diggs on Sunday. He's still on the practice squad,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: and he professed his faith in Josh Jobe. If you
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: missed any of that, my story is at thenewstribune.com. I'm
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: like McDonald's comments yesterday. Up next, we're going to go
• 41:34
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  Speaker 2: from Yahoo Sports, senior NFL writer based in New York.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks to Zeke's Pizza. Zeke'sPizza.com, where they have gluten-free pizza
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  Speaker 2: for Jory if she gets back to Seattle sometime. She
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  Speaker 2: NFL when Jory was out here for the Seahawks opener
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  Speaker 2: against the Patriots. Since then, they've gone one and one.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: They lost at Washington. And, Jory, my first question to you,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: thanks for being on the show again, from New York City,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: was what you thought of Marcus Mariota and the commanders
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: taking down the champs. What did you learn about maybe
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Mariota and Washington?
• 43:10
  Speaker 14: You know, my favorite stat that I've seen about this
• 43:12
  Speaker 14: so far is from Josh Deboe of the Associated Press.
• 43:15
  Speaker 14: who put that teams that have started a different quarterback
• 43:19
  Speaker 14: than week one.
• 43:19
  Speaker 13: Are 6-0 so far this season.
• 43:22
  Speaker 14: So it's worth noting that some of those teams weren't
• 43:24
  Speaker 14: starting their presumed start at first, but you've got Case
• 43:27
  Speaker 14: Keenum last night with the Bears, you've got Marcus Mariota
• 43:30
  Speaker 14: against Seattle, Drew Locke, of course, getting his win, Jameis Winston,
• 43:34
  Speaker 14: Michael Penix Jr.
• 43:34
  Speaker 13: Kyler Murray. So while it probably doesn't feel great to
• 43:38
  Speaker 13: lose to the.
• 43:38
  Speaker 14: Backup team, The Seahawks are not particularly unique in that fashion,
• 43:42
  Speaker 14: even through three weeks. So, I mean, the commanders wanted
• 43:45
  Speaker 14: Marcus Mariota to be their backup for many reasons, including
• 43:48
  Speaker 14: that his style is similar to Jaden Daniels, even if
• 43:51
  Speaker 14: it's not necessarily at the same ceiling right now, Jaden Daniels.
• 43:56
  Speaker 14: And so you kind of have this element of they
• 43:58
  Speaker 14: didn't have to totally change the playbook. And particularly when
• 44:01
  Speaker 14: you get the help of some takeaways from your defense,
• 44:03
  Speaker 14: I understand how Washington was able.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: To do this.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Staying in the NFC West, Rams are now 1-2, so
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I guess they're not going undefeated after all, huh? They're
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: not the dream team of the best team ever. But
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: first of all, I wanted to ask you, what did
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: you think of the pass interference call and the penalty
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: that completely changed the game and gave Denver its winning points?
• 44:25
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, like, is it my favorite call?
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: No.
• 44:27
  Speaker 14: Do I think NBC rules analyst, former official Terry McCauley,
• 44:31
  Speaker 14: broke it down well when he explained why he did
• 44:33
  Speaker 14: not believe it was pass interference? Sure, but I think
• 44:36
  Speaker 14: it's kind of in that range where Pat.
• 44:38
  Speaker 13: Bryant or C. Ron Place sold it well. It's an
• 44:40
  Speaker 13: unlucky break for the Rams, but I.
• 44:42
  Speaker 14: Don't think of that as the reason the Rams lost
• 44:44
  Speaker 14: the game, and I don't think Sean McVay is going
• 44:46
  Speaker 14: in there with his team this week saying, hey, if
• 44:48
  Speaker 14: it weren't for that, we would have been fine and
• 44:50
  Speaker 14: everything else we did well, you know?
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: They were up 16-0. I mean, 16-0 is a half,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: if I remember. So, yeah, they have themselves to blame
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: for that. While we're on the Rams, I'm going to
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: ask you a journalism question. You and I have been
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: in this situation many times where the game's ending. You
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: have to file as soon as the game ends. People
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: don't realize that. They think we just watch the game,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: eat popcorn, and then go downstairs and start asking questions.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: We're jamming out a running story that goes right when
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: the game ends. And sometimes when the game ends right
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: at the end, that story, especially the dumb Broncos-Rams game
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: the other night, You're going to write for five or
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: ten minutes after the game ends and try to write
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: something that's legible. And then you get downstairs. I mean,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Sean McVay and Artie Twyman, who used to be with
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks PR and now the PR director for the Rams,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: they know the deal and they know the writers are
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: up there. I know there's a mini controversy about all that.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: McVay apologized yesterday for not being there when the Rams
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: beat writers came in. But your whole take on all that.
• 45:47
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I actually haven't seen the apology from McVeigh, which
• 45:49
  Speaker 14: I think, okay, I'm not looking at it. I'm glad
• 45:53
  Speaker 14: that McVeigh said that because I felt like for a
• 45:57
  Speaker 14: reporter to tweet publicly on McVeigh's not speaking. I don't
• 46:01
  Speaker 14: know that that's the best option in terms of how
• 46:03
  Speaker 14: to handle it. I probably would have tried to instead
• 46:05
  Speaker 14: go to PR or to McVeigh and get another question.
• 46:08
  Speaker 13: I also think for PR to say publicly, if you.
• 46:11
  Speaker 14: Wait until the end of the game in the press box,
• 46:13
  Speaker 14: you don't get to talk to your coach. I wouldn't
• 46:15
  Speaker 14: recommend that if the PR staff was asking me. Because, look,
• 46:19
  Speaker 14: as a national reporter, I often don't have something at
• 46:22
  Speaker 14: the buzzer when my colleague says that. And so I
• 46:23
  Speaker 14: do often go down early to try and capture that.
• 46:26
  Speaker 14: scene of players coming off the field. But to suggest,
• 46:29
  Speaker 14: especially in today's world where reporters no longer have the
• 46:32
  Speaker 14: ability to be on the sideline in those last five minutes.
• 46:35
  Speaker 14: So if you want to watch the game again, I'll
• 46:37
  Speaker 14: watch it on the broadcast on my phone. But if
• 46:38
  Speaker 14: you want to watch the game live and if someone
• 46:41
  Speaker 14: gets injured, you got to be in the press box.
• 46:43
  Speaker 14: And so to suggest that you can't do that if
• 46:46
  Speaker 14: you want to talk to the head coach i think
• 46:48
  Speaker 14: is really disingenuous like they're also pr is also not
• 46:50
  Speaker 14: going to like it if you go down early in
• 46:52
  Speaker 14: those five minutes and you miss a major injury and
• 46:54
  Speaker 14: then you ask a head coach a question about the
• 46:56
  Speaker 14: game you're presumably at to cover so i think we
• 46:59
  Speaker 14: should all have a little humility here like yes there
• 47:01
  Speaker 14: are logistics of working in a stadium some will be
• 47:03
  Speaker 14: easier than others but why don't we try and work
• 47:05
  Speaker 14: together in part i i'm amazed at some of the
• 47:07
  Speaker 14: rules of these stadiums the one that drove me crazy
• 47:09
  Speaker 14: week one this year was not in seattle but was
• 47:12
  Speaker 14: when i went to monday night kansas city I hadn't
• 47:15
  Speaker 14: been to that stadium in probably three or four years,
• 47:17
  Speaker 14: and it was in the playoffs at the time. And
• 47:19
  Speaker 14: so I didn't know where to enter for Patrick Mahomes
• 47:23
  Speaker 14: speaking at the podium, which was obviously huge for my
• 47:26
  Speaker 14: job because it's his first game back from injury, he's won, etc.
• 47:29
  Speaker 14: So I start walking where Patrick is walking, figuring there's
• 47:32
  Speaker 14: one door like most places. Turns out, and they're like, no,
• 47:34
  Speaker 14: you have to go to the other door. I go
• 47:36
  Speaker 14: back around, and they're like, well, now that Patrick is in,
• 47:39
  Speaker 14: you're not allowed to walk in because it will disrupt
• 47:41
  Speaker 14: the press conference. I'm like, He has not started talking.
• 47:44
  Speaker 14: And I was just fuming there, Greg. And I'm like
• 47:46
  Speaker 14: a pretty level-headed person. But I was watching through double-pane glass.
• 47:49
  Speaker 14: I couldn't hear what Patrick was saying, but I could
• 47:51
  Speaker 14: watch him for like, it felt like 30 minutes. I
• 47:54
  Speaker 14: think it was nine minutes just watching him talk. And
• 47:56
  Speaker 14: I was like, how disrespectful should I be to just
• 47:58
  Speaker 14: go past the stadium person?
• 47:59
  Speaker 13: But I didn't want to do that.
• 48:00
  Speaker 14: But yes, all I wish is to say we all
• 48:02
  Speaker 14: have our gripes on this front and I am not
• 48:06
  Speaker 14: without them.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: It reminds me that I have gotten into the Pentagon
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: more easily than I've gotten into NFL stadiums and team facilities.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: That is a fact in my former Army life. I
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: like the flex, by the way. I like your flex,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: by the way, saying I no longer have to write
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: running game stories. I leave that to the peons, the
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: beat writers. I don't do that stuff anymore.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: She didn't use the word peon. She said colleague.
• 48:28
  Speaker 14: Yeah, my colleague does do that, who's a national reporter,
• 48:31
  Speaker 14: but he's much better at turning things quickly than I am.
• 48:33
  Speaker 13: So they're like, we don't really want to deal with
• 48:35
  Speaker 13: your story, Jory. But yes, sure.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: The Eagles last night just got bushwhacked by the Bears
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: starting a third-string quarterback. The Eagles, they got the Rams
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: coming into Philadelphia this week. Anything concerning last night from
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: the Eagles? They didn't run the ball very well. Hurts
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: couldn't move them, and the Chicago defense dominated, and now
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: McVay's one and two Rams come to Philadelphia. Is there
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: any concern with you with the Eagles?
• 49:02
  Speaker 13: I mean, they're still two and one, and it's one game.
• 49:05
  Speaker 14: I think To me, I'm more impressed with Ben Johnson's
• 49:08
  Speaker 14: play calling for Case Keenum than I am concerned about
• 49:11
  Speaker 14: the Eagles' defense.
• 49:14
  Speaker 13: Jalen Hurts, okay, did he have his best game? Obviously not.
• 49:16
  Speaker 14: But early on in the game, things that hurt the
• 49:18
  Speaker 14: Eagles weren't really Jalen Hurts. It was more, well, you've
• 49:21
  Speaker 14: got to fumble. Well, Jalen Hurts didn't fumble. Tank Biggsby fumbled.
• 49:24
  Speaker 14: Then you say, well, there's an interception. Well, that was
• 49:26
  Speaker 14: Andy Dalton when Jalen Hurts had to go get it
• 49:28
  Speaker 14: checked for a concussion. So Um, I mean, you would
• 49:33
  Speaker 14: hope that your defense can do better against a third
• 49:35
  Speaker 14: string quarterback than the Eagles did. But I also am
• 49:38
  Speaker 14: curious how much the Eagles prepared, not necessarily for another quarterback.
• 49:42
  Speaker 14: Cause I know that Tyson agent had the concussion during
• 49:44
  Speaker 14: the week, but maybe they prepared for a different style
• 49:46
  Speaker 14: of play because Ben Johnson did switch up his playbook
• 49:49
  Speaker 14: pretty significantly for case Keenum and not ask him to
• 49:52
  Speaker 14: do too much the way that Caleb has these big,
• 49:54
  Speaker 14: crazy plays. So I thought it was really well coached
• 49:57
  Speaker 14: by Chicago. If you're asking, does Philadelphia think something's wrong?
• 50:00
  Speaker 14: Philadelphia always thinks something's wrong. And I will note that
• 50:04
  Speaker 14: I guess Jalen Hurts did have the interception later, I
• 50:06
  Speaker 14: should say, but he didn't, he wasn't originally the problem.
• 50:09
  Speaker 14: What's interesting to me is that this really is more
• 50:13
  Speaker 14: of an anticipatory offense than the Eagles have had of late.
• 50:16
  Speaker 14: And I think that there's kind of just this element of,
• 50:19
  Speaker 14: are you.
• 50:19
  Speaker 13: Guys on the same page?
• 50:20
  Speaker 14: I thought Saquon looked a little bit better than we've
• 50:22
  Speaker 14: seen from him late, but yeah, Clearly, as a whole,
• 50:24
  Speaker 14: the operation was pretty off, and it seemed like the
• 50:27
  Speaker 14: further they got in a hole, the more trouble they
• 50:29
  Speaker 14: were having kind.
• 50:30
  Speaker 13: Of playing it safe, playing it slow, rather than getting
• 50:33
  Speaker 13: ahead of themselves.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: The Rams go to the Eagles this week in a game.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: A lot of people in the Northwest will be keeping
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: an eye on because the Rams have a chance of
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: going one and three. The greatest team ever assembled that
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: was going to win the Super Bowl in March could
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: be 1-3 after the road trip east this week. Giants
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: are 2-1. Is that John Harbaugh? Is that Jameis Winston?
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Is it because they played the Cowboys and the Titans?
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: What do you assess the Giants for?
• 50:56
  Speaker 14: I feel like I can't talk about the Giants season
• 51:00
  Speaker 14: so far in one bucket because every single game has
• 51:03
  Speaker 14: been completely different reasons for why these outcomes came. I
• 51:06
  Speaker 14: think they wouldn't want to know because John Harbaugh and
• 51:10
  Speaker 14: Jackson Dart and their play callers and Matt Nagy and
• 51:13
  Speaker 14: Greg Roman and the crew put together a really effective
• 51:16
  Speaker 14: game plan and looked really efficient on offense and opportunistic
• 51:19
  Speaker 14: on defense.
• 51:19
  Speaker 13: I think then you go to week two, obviously they
• 51:22
  Speaker 13: had the.
• 51:22
  Speaker 14: Loss, but their win against the Titans was much more
• 51:26
  Speaker 14: About the weather, it was a nor'easter up here, and
• 51:28
  Speaker 14: so you kind of have the, like, let's just run
• 51:30
  Speaker 14: the ball and not turn it over, and hey, we
• 51:32
  Speaker 14: actually didn't really score touchdowns, but what if we just
• 51:34
  Speaker 14: get the field goals?
• 51:35
  Speaker 13: That'll be good enough.
• 51:36
  Speaker 14: And then also playing against the Titans. But I think
• 51:39
  Speaker 14: the Giants know perfectly well that the recipe they used
• 51:43
  Speaker 14: to beat the Titans is not going to give them
• 51:45
  Speaker 14: wins most likely. And they now are going to be
• 51:47
  Speaker 14: without Brian Burns, their top pass rusher for the rest
• 51:50
  Speaker 14: of the season with a torn ACL. So you basically
• 51:52
  Speaker 14: lost your most important player on offense and defense. Although
• 51:54
  Speaker 14: I will say credit to Javon Holland, because I believe
• 51:58
  Speaker 14: he's had an interception. Yes, he has in every single
• 52:00
  Speaker 14: game so far, in addition to forcing.
• 52:03
  Speaker 13: Two fumbles.
• 52:04
  Speaker 14: So that's pretty good. Five takeaways in three games.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Player of the month candidate here in the NFC.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: So JJ McCarthy, the guy who, the reason why Sam
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Donald is with the Seahawks is JJ McCarthy. The Vikings
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: chose him because the GM there, his job, but the
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Vikings chose a young JJ McCarthy after the knee surgery
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: and return over Darnold. And then the Vikings give up
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: on McCarthy and trade him to the giants is Jameis
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Winston looking over his shoulder. Do you think, or, That's
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: just an insurance move.
• 52:36
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm glad you asked because I initially was not
• 52:38
  Speaker 14: super high on this move because I think that JJ
• 52:41
  Speaker 14: is a young quarterback. He's coming in the middle of
• 52:43
  Speaker 14: the season, doesn't know the terminology, doesn't have experience with
• 52:45
  Speaker 14: the weapons. And if you're not the first string quarterback,
• 52:50
  Speaker 14: you rarely get any snaps during the season with the
• 52:52
  Speaker 14: first string because there's just so few snaps to go
• 52:55
  Speaker 14: around once you get to the regular season. But when
• 52:57
  Speaker 14: I talked to sources from five different NFL teams yesterday,
• 53:01
  Speaker 14: they actually said, told a different story and kind of
• 53:03
  Speaker 14: this twofold reason why they understood.
• 53:05
  Speaker 13: The first is from a schematic.
• 53:08
  Speaker 14: Standpoint, the same way we were talking about Mariota being
• 53:10
  Speaker 14: a good schematic replacement for Jaden Daniels, Jameis Winston is
• 53:14
  Speaker 14: big and strong and has a big arm, but he's
• 53:16
  Speaker 14: not got that dual threat, his own read, some of
• 53:19
  Speaker 14: the run pass option, all of that, that Jackson Dart had.
• 53:22
  Speaker 14: And so I think the Giants really wanted someone who
• 53:24
  Speaker 14: schematically allowed them to focus more on the emphasis of
• 53:27
  Speaker 14: their playbook. I'm not suggesting that they can't scheme for
• 53:30
  Speaker 14: Jameis Winston or that they don't have different elements. But
• 53:33
  Speaker 14: I think that in order to do what they do
• 53:36
  Speaker 14: best and really use guys like Isaiah Likely and some
• 53:38
  Speaker 14: of that, they need a quarterback who can lean more
• 53:40
  Speaker 14: into that. And then from a price standpoint, there's the
• 53:43
  Speaker 14: element of they got him for a fifth round pick.
• 53:46
  Speaker 14: And it's pretty rare three years after a guy is
• 53:48
  Speaker 14: drafted in the top 10 to be able to get
• 53:51
  Speaker 14: him for a fifth round pick. And it's not a
• 53:54
  Speaker 14: super expensive move. I think the closest comp I found
• 53:57
  Speaker 14: in recent years was when the Niners traded Trey Lance
• 54:00
  Speaker 14: to the Cowboys.
• 54:02
  Speaker 13: Year three for a fourth round pick.
• 54:04
  Speaker 14: But oftentimes it's much more expensive than that if the
• 54:06
  Speaker 14: guy has done anything right.
• 54:07
  Speaker 13: So now you're the Vikings who say, okay, we got value.
• 54:10
  Speaker 13: The Giants, you didn't pay a whole lot. As it
• 54:12
  Speaker 13: relates to.
• 54:13
  Speaker 14: Will we see him and should Jameis Winston be looking
• 54:15
  Speaker 14: around the corner?
• 54:16
  Speaker 13: I think yes. We're not seeing him this week.
• 54:19
  Speaker 14: John Harbaugh made very clear that Jameis Winston is, or
• 54:22
  Speaker 14: he's not gonna be a starter, I should say.
• 54:23
  Speaker 13: Jameis Winston is starting this week against the Arizona Cardinals.
• 54:26
  Speaker 13: As it relates to after that, John Harbaugh did his.
• 54:29
  Speaker 14: Whole, well, I can't see more in the future than
• 54:31
  Speaker 14: this week. So all I could tell you is Jameis
• 54:33
  Speaker 14: is starting this week. But if he felt like Jameis
• 54:35
  Speaker 14: was going to be the starter for four weeks, I
• 54:37
  Speaker 14: think he would have said Jameis is our starter. And instead,
• 54:40
  Speaker 14: he made very clear, like, for the future, as far
• 54:42
  Speaker 14: as I can see it, which is only this week.
• 54:45
  Speaker 14: So I think this is a question of how... How
• 54:49
  Speaker 14: quickly does JJ McCarthy get up to speed on a
• 54:51
  Speaker 14: new system? He does have the mobility that Jackson Dart has,
• 54:53
  Speaker 14: so that's good. But then you also have to ask yourself,
• 54:57
  Speaker 14: even if he gets the opportunity, I never root for
• 54:59
  Speaker 14: a player to get hurt, but JJ McCarthy missed his
• 55:01
  Speaker 14: entire rookie year and seven more games last season for
• 55:04
  Speaker 14: like four different injuries across that time.
• 55:06
  Speaker 13: So you should keep Jameis Winston close.
• 55:08
  Speaker 14: By and, Even if you start JJ McCarthy, because history
• 55:12
  Speaker 14: doesn't suggest that we should feel confident he's able to
• 55:14
  Speaker 14: stay healthy.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for sure. All kinds of injuries. Jessamyn, did
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: you notice the flex at the very beginning of Jory's,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: another Jory flex there? Well, the five teams that I
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: talked to yesterday about this trade.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: That sounds like a hard worker who's giving you the
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: inside scoop on a lot of different stories, Greg.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 55:30
  Speaker 13: Frank, you know, gives Zeke's pizza its value.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: You definitely are giving Zeke's pizza its value. This is
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Jory Epstein, a senior NFL reporter from Yahoo Sports. It's
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: her weekly visit with us. Thanks to Zeke's Pizza and Zeke'sPizza.com.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to now what the Seahawks
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: are facing this week. The Chargers, 0-3. When this schedule
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: came out, this looked like an early season test for Seattle.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: And now a winless Charger team. Justin Herbert is under 60%. 59% passer.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: He was a 66% career passer. He's the 30th ranked
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: NFL quarterback in passer rating on quarterbacks that have played
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: in multiple games this year. Three touchdowns, four Four interceptions against,
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: third most interceptions in the league with eight sacks in
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: three games. We've talked, I think you and I have talked,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: I've talked to Farhan Lalji about how they lack, the
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Chargers lack a big game receiver. They don't have a
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Keenan Allen anymore. They have offensive line problems. What do
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: you think the Jim Harbaugh's go to get fixed? And
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: is this the week they get better in Seattle?
• 56:37
  Speaker 13: I mean, I don't think it's the week they get
• 56:39
  Speaker 13: better in Seattle.
• 56:40
  Speaker 14: I think you should watch for the takeaways because they
• 56:42
  Speaker 14: were very opportunistic against the Bills, even though they weren't
• 56:45
  Speaker 14: able to finish the game. But I think to me,
• 56:47
  Speaker 14: my concern is we were all very excited about the
• 56:51
  Speaker 14: Mike McDaniel, Justin Herbert pairing and by extension, the Mike McDaniel,
• 56:55
  Speaker 14: Jim Harbaugh pairing.
• 56:56
  Speaker 13: When I talk to people around the league, there is
• 56:58
  Speaker 13: kind of.
• 56:59
  Speaker 14: A question of do Jim Harbaugh and Mike McDaniel's schematic
• 57:02
  Speaker 14: philosophies really align? You have Harbaugh who's kind of like
• 57:06
  Speaker 14: a run the ball, slow the game down, keep other
• 57:08
  Speaker 14: teams from having it.
• 57:09
  Speaker 13: Also like very big, physical, tough.
• 57:11
  Speaker 14: And I'm not saying Mike McDaniel is not big, physical
• 57:13
  Speaker 14: and tough, but in Miami, he was much more leaning
• 57:15
  Speaker 14: into speed and finesse. And so I think if you
• 57:19
  Speaker 14: have those two systems and they're not fully working, if
• 57:22
  Speaker 14: they're winning, it doesn't matter. Like pretty much you give
• 57:24
  Speaker 14: them whichever they want. But once you start getting into
• 57:26
  Speaker 14: a hole like this, do you know that Jim Harbaugh
• 57:30
  Speaker 14: is going.
• 57:30
  Speaker 13: To let Mike McDaniel keep running what he wants?
• 57:32
  Speaker 14: And I think if Mike McDaniel thinks all the way
• 57:34
  Speaker 14: back to San Francisco and what he was doing under Shanahan,
• 57:37
  Speaker 14: there's more schematic, I guess, familiarity or similarities, I should say,
• 57:43
  Speaker 14: to what they were doing with then what.
• 57:44
  Speaker 13: Jim Harbaugh wants.
• 57:45
  Speaker 14: But in recent years, McDaniel has had different ideas. What
• 57:48
  Speaker 14: shocks me still is that Mike McDaniel's whole thing was
• 57:51
  Speaker 14: get the ball out quickly so that the offensive line
• 57:54
  Speaker 14: doesn't have to protect that long.
• 57:55
  Speaker 13: And I thought this would work better than it did.
• 57:57
  Speaker 13: So I'm very surprised.
• 57:58
  Speaker 14: And I also think that not only because they're the Chargers,
• 58:01
  Speaker 14: but also just when you look at NFL history, if
• 58:04
  Speaker 14: you have enough things not working between head coach, quarterback,
• 58:07
  Speaker 14: and play caller, it can get ugly pretty quickly.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: So you see 0-4 for the Chargers in Seattle on Sunday?
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: I do. Okay.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Joy, this week ahead, are you in New York? Are
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: you staying home? Week four that begins on Thursday night
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: with a surprising 2-1 Cleveland Browns hosting the 2-1 Steelers.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Are you sticking around the homestead watching the games this weekend,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: or where do you at it?
• 58:30
  Speaker 14: Yeah, we've got another week in New York, still getting
• 58:32
  Speaker 14: the lay of the land as all of the teams.
• 58:34
  Speaker 13: Show us who they are.
• 58:35
  Speaker 14: But I am fascinated to see what happens in the
• 58:38
  Speaker 14: Raiders-Chiefs game this week, because I think if the Raiders win...
• 58:42
  Speaker 14: They then would come to New England the following week
• 58:43
  Speaker 14: that I would anticipate going to Foxborough.
• 58:45
  Speaker 13: Not positive, but that is the tentative plan.
• 58:47
  Speaker 14: So we'll see if the Raiders can keep up this four,
• 58:51
  Speaker 14: keep 3-0, make it 4-0.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Against the Chiefs, the Clint Kubiaks. Man, Kubiak, you talk
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: about an instant culture change there in Las Vegas.
• 59:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Both over results so far, but now they get Pat
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Mahomes this week. Joy, thanks a lot. We'll catch up
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: with you next week. Thanks to Zeke's Pizza. It's great
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: to talk to you again.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: Thanks.
• 59:11
  Speaker 13: Greg, just been great to be on. I'll talk to
• 59:13
  Speaker 13: you next week.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Jory Epstein is the senior NFL reporter for Yahoo Sports.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: She joins us every week. Thanks to Zeke's Pizza and Zeke'sPizza.com.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: And she's saying that she senses a disconnect. People around
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: the league see a disconnect between Jim Harbaugh and The
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: overall culture of the team and Mike McDaniel, the Chargers
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: offensive play caller for Justin Herbert. And the results say
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: there is a disconnect. As I said, 0-3 with Herbert
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: the 30th ranked in passer rating coming into Seattle on Sunday.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: She did make the good point, though, that they got
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of takeaways in Buffalo that kept that game close. Seahawks,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: of course, just had three turnovers in Washington. That, of course,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: will be the key to game on Sunday. A team
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks should win, should beat. Just don't give them
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: the ball. That's why they lost in Washington. 49451 on
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• 1:00:12
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  Speaker 6: Hey there greg and jessamine.
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  Speaker 15: They want me to watch the mlb playoffs but where's
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 15: my team where's my team they say root for someone
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 15: else but that's not my team that's not my.
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  Speaker 2: Team because we suck And we fired everyone.
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  Speaker 6: That's the Mariners.
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  Speaker 2: They're not in.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 11: I'm so sick of the argument that this team should
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 11: be in the playoffs. This team should not, and I repeat,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 11: should not.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: Be in the playoffs.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 11: It showed how less talented the team was than everyone else,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 11: even in our own division. Houston had more talent. Texas
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 11: had more talent. And the A's have so much young talent.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 11: I would say the Mariners are lacking in all of that.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 11: Young talent, exciting talent, stars. This team was garbage. And
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 11: it's a really, really bad thing to do by predicting
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 11: things on past results.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: That is bad.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 11: Predicting things on past results is not a good way
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 11: to look, guys. Last year was last year. Yeah, we
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 11: almost did that. We almost did that. This year, we
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 11: were not talented. We should not have gone to the
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 11: playoffs this year at all. Last year was last year.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 11: This year, this year, not talented.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: God, I hate this man.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 11: Jerry just making up his tenure. I've had three different tenures.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 11: My first tenure, I ate cereal. My second tenure, I
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 11: had lunch. And my third tenure, I'm going to have dinner.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 11: That's not how it works, Jerry. You weren't hired again.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 11: You've been hired by one organization for 12 straight years.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 11: This is the same job, big boy. And if you
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 11: can't handle it, then get out and let someone younger
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 11: and better do it. Hey guys, John Stanton here, and
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 11: we're going to commit to winning by committing to you.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 11: We're going to sit in our hands and we're going
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 11: to commit. And by showing winning, we're going to commit.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 11: We're going to win by commit. And we're going to
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 11: sit here. Oh, guys, guess what? We can't sell to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 11: someone because we just don't know how to sell. We
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 11: don't know what we're doing. And so we're going to,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 11: by winning, we're going to commit. And by showing commitment,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 11: we're going to win. And yeah, we're going to commit
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 11: by winning.
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  Speaker 5: And guess what?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 11: We're the second longest tenured ownership.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: But we're going to.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Got it. Point made.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: People have feelings about this topic.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: I disagree that you say the Mariners weren't talented. They
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: didn't perform to their talent level. They are more talented
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: than Texas, certainly. I think they're more talented than Houston,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: especially with Houston's injuries. But talent and performance, I think,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: conflating that a little bit. There was definitely talent on
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: the Mariners roster, which makes the season even more frustrating
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  Speaker 2: All you have to do is be right once this
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  Speaker 2: five days. We do it every day. 7.35, 11.35, 2.35,
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  Speaker 4: I do i'm taking the bears minus three as they
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  Speaker 4: host the jets because against your jets well this is
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  Speaker 4: a hedge for me because it's a win-win i can
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  Speaker 4: either win factor fiction or i can be happy that
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  Speaker 4: my team wins because uh you know that's a three
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  Speaker 4: point spread so i am just going with that bears
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  Speaker 4: minus three as they host the jets i um.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, there's three-point favorites at home over the Jets?
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  Speaker 5: Really?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's all?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I took it, Greg.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was on the road in the Meadowlands.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Nope, it is not.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, because the Giants are home to the Cardinals this weekend. Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So, yes, it is minus three.
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  Speaker 8: You know what?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it is minus three right here. So there are
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  Speaker 4: a couple different consensuses. It opened at a much higher spread, though.
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  Speaker 5: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: But as of right now, minus three.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll honor that.
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  Speaker 5: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I like it because I am a lifelong
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  Speaker 4: suffering Jets fan. And I know what we are incapable of,
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  Speaker 4: and I just do not think... I mean, I look
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  Speaker 4: at the way the Bears, even though in a loss situation,
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  Speaker 4: the way they played the Rams.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like.
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  Speaker 6: The Jets can't do that.
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  Speaker 3: They just absolutely can't.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it was a field goal of a game
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  Speaker 4: in overtime. So I just look at that kind of score.
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about the playoffs last year.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: So this year, though, they smacked the Eagles at home
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  Speaker 4: when they hosted them.
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  Speaker 2: Beat them by 20 last night.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. So, I mean, the Jets? I mean, you
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: look at.
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  Speaker 4: The beginning of the season, the points that they're putting
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: up 59 to 37 over the Panthers. I mean, it's
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: kind of ridiculous. So, yeah, I mean, I know they
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: lost the Vikings in a really, really, really underwhelming game.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: It was field goal central over there. But anyway, yes,
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  Speaker 4: I just definitely like the Bears minus three.
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  Speaker 2: Spoken like a true Long Islander betting against her Jets.
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  Speaker 3: You know what? I'm surprised no one took that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yet, especially. Bears minus three at home against the Jets.
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  Speaker 2: If you think the Bears will win by four or
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  Speaker 2: more points and you agree with Jessamyn, text FACT to
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  Speaker 2: win that game or lose by fewer than three points,
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  Speaker 2: text FICTION to 49451. You have about ten minutes to
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• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: New York team pick. Was it New York? Yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: was the Titans, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 3: Yep, it was. It was the Giants-Titans. Yeah, and it
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  Speaker 3: was a fiction pick, just to be fair.
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  Speaker 2: That was your pick.
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  Speaker 3: But, yes, you won for betting against me, sir, and
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  Speaker 3: I grew to be wrong.
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  Speaker 2: The text line, the COVID odds text line, 49451206 said, Listen,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: that Jerry and John Stanton talk was so painful. If
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: they ever do a documentary about the owner of the Mariners,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: they need to cast a Lloyd Bridges lookalike. They're both terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Sell the team to someone that wants to win more
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  Speaker 2: than 54%. 206 said, so the owner of the only
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  Speaker 2: major league team to never even make a World Series
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  Speaker 2: is bragging about being the third largest continuous ownership group.
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  Speaker 2: Make sure you find the secret door for your $ 50
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  Speaker 2: cotton candy margarita bull crap drink. And keep by the
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  Speaker 2: $ 20 beers. We are suckers and we can't possibly be
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: more out of touch. That is a reference to our
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  Speaker 2: point yesterday that the Mariners had their best attendance season
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  Speaker 2: since 2004. 2004, 22 years ago. They drew 2.8, more
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  Speaker 2: than 2.8 million fans, 35 plus thousand on average per
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  Speaker 2: night for a team that was 10 games under 500.
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  Speaker 2: The baseball operations was obviously broken. The business operations flourishing.
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  Speaker 2: They're in the rub in the ownership group in my mind.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: 360 says DePoto is a prima donna, not a hand-in-the-dirt grinder,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: and they need hand-in-the-dirt grinding to fix this.
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  Speaker 4: Who in the GM world right now? Everything is going
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  Speaker 4: in a younger direction. GM presidents. It's not exactly like
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  Speaker 4: you're getting the tenured guys.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: Jerry has several tenures, though.
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  Speaker 2: 11 years.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you heard that.
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  Speaker 2: I have heard. 11 years and one division championship. Two
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  Speaker 2: playoff appearances. That's what I've been told.
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  Speaker 5: 425.
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  Speaker 2: Should have waited a day for Dan and Jerry's circus.
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  Speaker 2: Let Riz have his ride off to the sunset moment.
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  Speaker 2: Get rid of Jerry and can Stanton. Can they sound
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  Speaker 2: any more smug? And a couple people made the point
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  Speaker 2: that John Stanton, the 425, said... In the interview with
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  Speaker 2: Paul Silvey, John Stanton basically just explained inflation. It's true.
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  Speaker 2: And pretended it meant to be aggressive in spending when
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  Speaker 2: he said that each year, year over year, they increased
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  Speaker 2: the player payroll. And I made the point of, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: your revenues have gone up year over year. That's a
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  Speaker 2: good point. He basically did just explain inflation. Oh, my goodness.
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  Speaker 3: That was a good comment.
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  Speaker 2: That was a good comment. Nico, our friend of the station, 360.
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  Speaker 2: There's one simple solution. His name is Theo Epstein. Would
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  Speaker 2: he come out here after all his success?
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  Speaker 3: You know what?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's kind of like a mad scientist type
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  Speaker 4: of guy where I would see him looking at this
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  Speaker 4: and going, I can fix it.
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  Speaker 1: I could.
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  Speaker 2: That would be a John Stanton move, though, to get
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  Speaker 2: rid of Jerry DePoto. It's not like Theo Epstein would
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  Speaker 2: work with Jerry DePoto. That would be an either or.
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  Speaker 15: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: 100%.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just wondering what's possible.
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  Speaker 2: Number 253 says Julio should pay back some of his
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  Speaker 2: money in favor of play for performance. Yeah, if only
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: the Major League Baseball worked that way.
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  Speaker 3: It's literally never going to happen. That's how baseball is.
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  Speaker 2: Kurt Flood in the 1970s. Marvin Miller. Ever since then,
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  Speaker 2: it's been the opposite of pay for performance for sure. 360.
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  Speaker 2: I think people are underestimating the effect of the lockout
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  Speaker 2: on Jerry and Justin keeping their jobs. Teams will have
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  Speaker 2: a month to do any roster movement before the CBA expires.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: The team can't waste any of that time looking for
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  Speaker 2: a new front office. They'll get this year to prove
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: 2026 was an anomaly, and if they don't, both are gone. Mason,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: that's a really good point. That's a really good point.
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  Speaker 2: You're right. Do you want to be looking for a
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  Speaker 2: GM and a manager in this offseason of all offseasons
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  Speaker 2: when December 1st looms as a lockout date? The owners
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  Speaker 2: locking out the players because of the salary cap and
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: salary floor they're trying to institute? That's a really good point, Mason. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Jerry DiPoto saying, you say, well, we're proceeding
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  Speaker 2: as if there's not going to be a lockout. That's
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  Speaker 2: not entirely true because the Mariners have to consider what
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  Speaker 2: could we get in a condensed period of time in
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  Speaker 2: case it all goes dark on December 1st. And December
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  Speaker 2: is when the free agency usually is.
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  Speaker 4: That'll be an interesting time because usually in December, we're
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  Speaker 4: just so in the thick of football, you know, college
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  Speaker 4: football playoffs will be decided and you know conference championships
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  Speaker 4: and nfl is in full swing we got you know
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  Speaker 4: a couple games left in the nfl and all of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden we're looking to see if we have baseball.
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting that's a really interesting perspective about that part
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  Speaker 2: of it that's good i'm not sure where i'm trying
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back. Greg Bell and Jessamyn McIntyre with you on
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  Speaker 2: 93.3 KJFM. I think the text line window just, or
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  Speaker 2: the factor fiction window just closed. Jessamyn took Bears minus
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  Speaker 2: three at home over the Jets. The window still might
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  Speaker 2: be open. Ian Furness just shook his head at that.
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  Speaker 6: He couldn't believe it. Couldn't believe it was minus three.
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  Speaker 6: You're betting against the Jets.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I said. Well, it's a win-win.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's a hedge.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, I hedge a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Or fiction, the 49451. You might be able to get
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  Speaker 2: in real quick.
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  Speaker 6: I got you. I do the same thing. I took
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  Speaker 6: Washington plus nine and.
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  Speaker 13: A half yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: I got you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we speak the same language.
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  Speaker 2: I got you. I got you.
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  Speaker 3: I learned from the best.
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  Speaker 6: I got you. I actually am kind of regretting that
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  Speaker 6: pick right now, to be honest with you. I think it's,
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  Speaker 6: but whatever. It's a win-win.
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  Speaker 2: Cleaning up on the text line, 49451, 253 said, the
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  Speaker 2: lockout will be the next excuse as to why the
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Mariners couldn't get it done next year. There was a
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: 360 text that brought up a really good point last segment.
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  Speaker 2: It said that You know, people are underestimating the impact
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: that this lockout is having on the Mariners' decision-making. Why
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: would you want to go fire the GM and the
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  Speaker 2: president of baseball ops and the manager and then have
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  Speaker 2: to find all three of them before the lockout would
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  Speaker 2: start December 1st? And you would be handcuffing yourself. This
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: is the wrong— I' m paraphrasing, but this is the wrong offseason
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  Speaker 2: to go do that. And the 360 says, this is
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: Stanton telling DiPoto, you got one more shot this year.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: To fix this. And we don't want to fire you
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  Speaker 2: and then have to look for two guys during this
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Knesset offseason. I hadn't thought of that in that light.
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  Speaker 6: I think I'd be more terrified of John Stanton going
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  Speaker 6: out and trying to hire the next guy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm serious. I just don't.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's just.
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  Speaker 2: Did you hear him with Sylvie yesterday? Paul Sylvie? No,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not. Paul Sylvie.
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  Speaker 6: State radio?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 6: State TV?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 6: I love Paul, but come on. They're the TV partner.
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  Speaker 6: There's nothing to be asked.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: Well, but to Paul's credit, he asked him, what do
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  Speaker 2: you say to fans who say you're not committed to winning?
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: And his answer was, we're the third longest tenured ownership group,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: and we have increased our payroll in each of the
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: last five years.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 6: It's still middle of the pack compared to the revenue.
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  Speaker 6: It's lower half. Jess, we asked that same question when
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  Speaker 6: I had him on two years ago.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I remember.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: We asked that same question. I asked him the same question,
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  Speaker 6: same answer.
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  Speaker 2: But as the texter said, he just explained inflation.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Because their revenues are going up each year.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: And their luxury tax payments are going up each year.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 6: That's a good point.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: I love that text. That was a really good insight.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: That's great.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: That's the case.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 6: We should all be getting raises. Anyway.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: What's that? I know. It's silly talk. I worked at
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: the news in 12 years and never gotten a raise.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: Not even an inflationary cost of living raise. I'm losing money.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: I'm losing money. I know.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: I feel your pain.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: Side hustle, side hustle, side.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Hustle, side hustle. I'm speaking it right now.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: No, I think that's, listen, I think if you were
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: to ask most fans, I mean, it's a good question
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: to ask maybe today, like what would make you happier,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: them selling the team or them firing Jerry?
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 5: Ooh. Right?
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: I know what hand I'd put up for that. I'd
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 6: say sell the team.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: I'd say change the president of baseball ops. The business
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: is working. The return on investment for those 24 owners
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: is working.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: The business is working, but the baseball's not.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: Right. So change the baseball operations president. In my mind,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: the broken part is what needs fixed. The business part's working.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: I just don't trust these guys to hire the right person.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 6: So that's the problem. So that's why I would say ownership.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 6: But they're not going to sell it, so it's kind
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 6: of a moot point.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, why would they? They're making money, but.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: What do you got today?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: Well, it's our last Maliwap day.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, a Tuesday Maliwap.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 6: Well, we had the Jerry news conference yesterday, so we'll
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 6: react to that.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: Nothing to say about that.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, nothing at all. Nothing.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: Dead air. God.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: Chomping at the bit, getting texts from people.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: Where are those guys?
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 6: We need to hear them today. Well, you get them today.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: Last time.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: And, uh, John Lund, we'll talk NFC West coming up
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 6: at two.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: It's the unbeaten 49ers. Yeah, I don't want it.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 6: It's going to be a long session with him.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Ah, 49ers, Niners, Niners, Niners, Niners, Niners.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: Purdy, Purdy, Purdy.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: Uh, I got him on my fantasy team and he's performing.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's doing well.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: So we'll, uh, we'll, we'll talk, uh, we'll talk with
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: Lund coming up at two o'clock, uh, brought to you
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• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'd rather be the Seahawks at 2-1 than
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: the 1-2 Rams.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Sure would. The Rams are going to the Eagles this week.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: That's not an easy task. That should be a win. Right?
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 6: Eagles looked like garbage yesterday.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't do it bad last night.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 6: Awful. Case Keenum beat them.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that wasn't great. By 20. Case Keenum! By 20.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's what Jory was saying, is that it
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: is the era of the backup.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 15: It is!
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  Speaker 2: Jory made the point that Josh Dubow, my friend from
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: the Bay Area, said that all six quarterbacks who have
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: Started games who didn't start week one have won games.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: That's crazy.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: Replacement quarterbacks, including Michael Penix.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 6: Well, the Penix in theory would have been the starter.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 6: But still, he looked good.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a big show coming up.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: Ian's up next from 12 to 3. On a Kraken
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: Ticket Tuesday. It is a Kraken Ticket Tuesday. Every hour,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: he'll give away two tickets to the home opener. We
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: already gave away four tickets to two different people in
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: our show. Ian will do it three more times. Dave
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Softy Marr and Dick Fane will do it all the
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: way through 7 o'clock. Your Kraken Ticket Tuesday to win
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: two tickets to the home opener. Sunday, 5 p.m. against Calgary. Remember,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: their season opener. is on Thursday night here on KJR
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: at Calgary. The NHL season begins today. Seahawks Chargers on Sunday.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it more tomorrow from Seahawks headquarters. Thanks
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: for listening on 93.3 KJR FM.