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“Cause Vladdy is Vladdy, And You’re Not Vladdy” Outsiders S03 E19 · The CFL Outsiders

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Hey kids, welcome back to another episode of the CFL Outsiders.
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I remain, as always, your one hundred percent impartial,
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completely unbiased and adequately entertained host,
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old man, shouting at clouds. Joining me this week,
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as usual, is MJ.
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~ hey everyone, how's it going?
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I ~ had a regular Coke today instead of a diet coke,
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and I'm pretty sure I ascended through space and time.
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So we'll see how it goes tonight.
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Ha ha ha ha ha that sugar high,
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that sugar high. Good, should be a fun show.
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And
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back from the wilderness, having found a spot in her very,
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very busy schedule, we're lucky and it's MJ2.
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happy to be back. I feel like MBT.
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I had some dates in my schedule that just ~ had to be negotiated in my contract.
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Ha ha ha.
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But
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I'm happy to be here. As my mom says,
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it's the best time of the year.
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You've got baseball, you've got football,
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you've got soccer, and you've got hockey.
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So it's a good time to be a sports fan.
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Yes. Yes.
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And we've got another quality talent here in MJ 2 so we'll negotiate those dates,
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trust me.
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Maybe I'll be offensive player of the week.
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Things. You
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Yes
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never know.
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Yes, that was a ~ a perfectly adequate weekend of football,
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wasn't it?
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I don't know, it was I mean the games I sp I guess if you're fans of
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the teams the games could have been exciting,
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but to me they just I don't know,
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I just
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What
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I was glued to that red black Stampeders game.
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Okay, that was the best game of the weekend.
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It was the best game of the weekend.
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That is my f that's my one
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~ It
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big note, best game of the weekend.
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It was the best game of the weekend and it was semi exciting,
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but it didn't feel like it mattered.
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So maybe that's it with me.
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I feel like
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just because the riders don't play not it doesn't mean it's not
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an exciting football weekend.
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Okay. That could
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be my bias showing true. Now we've got a bunch of news items,
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but before we do that, as we were talking in the pregame,
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it was pointed out that MJ there in her background has a rather dejected little
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tiger cat mascot. Yes.
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Yes.
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But
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I understand he might be cheering up because you said there's some breaking news.
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You know, someone knitted this for my son before he was born,
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and he's an Aloettes fan, so now I just repurposed it into my space.
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yeah, so Bo Levi Mitchell just put out a paid partnership with DZone today
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to talk about how you can watch four screens at once on DZone for NFL.
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Because if you're huge into fantasy like him,
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you need to be watching four games at once.
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And then he said, and also you can watch me on DZone next year.
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~ so he's officially back. I like
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At the end of the odd, so go
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it.
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you might as well make some money on your announcements.
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Yes. Now
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was that you can watch him play football next year or you can watch him okay,
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Yes. Well he said he was
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good, 'cause
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Watch
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him play fantasy.
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on
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~
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watch him play fantasy. I think it said he
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Yeah. ~
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could watch him play or watch it ~ I dunno,
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maybe I should watch this Instagram post again 'cause I was like
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I'm pretty sure it's Castantonis
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Yeah.
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was right on it, to be like chat chitter chattering about it,
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so I assume it's cause he's playing.
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Yeah.
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Okay, good. Because we know w that
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That's good
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news.
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he's
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got a a path in broadcasting planned afterwards,
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so
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Yeah, no, I should have paid more attention.
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have I mentioned I don't eat sugar and I drink a Coke today?
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Okay. Fr forgiven
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What a teased.
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look at that. There goes MJ over there and over there.
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Yeah. Go go watch it, go watch it.
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Okay.
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But some
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insight but I'm pretty sure it's ~ what he meant he was playing and it
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I hope it's true.
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Yes. I hope so too. I probably shouldn't put a downer on it.
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I should just make the assumption.
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All right, what else
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I'm riding that wave too.
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did we have to talk about here?
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~ the fallout from the brawl in BC came out this week.
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There was after we posted the show last week,
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there was a disturbing article or information that came
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out about Josh Hagerty.
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groin punching Liam Talbert of the Montreal Alouettes twice and Talbot
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me needing what they termed as potentially life altering surgery.
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Now I hate to even think what that could mean and to me that had
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no place in football whatsoever.
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I saw some of the tapes and yeah,
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it's just not right. Hagerty got two game suspension for that.
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I would have thought that they'd he'd be gone for the year,
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but two games.
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Also suspended were Roland Kent Jr.
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from the Lions and Don Callis of the Aloettes.
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And fines were handed out for that big brawl that happened to Phil Pottsneed
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and Dante Williams of the BC Lions.
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So I'm cu right, and Davis Alexander i
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And Davis Alexander got fined as well.
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he got the yes, he did. He got the the one for unnecessary roughness.
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You're right. I've missed that
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when I was doing my recap here.
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So what do you both think about ~ how that was handled?
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feel like we have lots of thoughts.
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We spent a lot of time texting back and forth about this this week already.
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So I don't even know. Yeah.
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Okay, so dish.
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Well, my whole perspective goes in two different directions,
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all scattered. Number one, yeah,
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like looking at
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what is the CFL's rules around suspension?
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And yeah, giving out the suspensions,
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yes. And then fans are saying,
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well, what's BC doing on top of that?
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And I thought, well, is that the team's role?
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That's maybe another question.
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But I just can't help but think,
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as someone who has been injured intentionally in a sport,
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where does the line get drawn between this is something that
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you should expect because you are playing a tackle sport?
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And then how does then that exceed what you should expect,
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right? Like
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That is something that you I'm hoping no one ever teaches you to
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do when you're tackling. And so it should never be something that
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you would even consider happening as you're playing.
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And so for me, I can't help but think,
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at what point do police get involved because that is no longer part of the game.
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That is beyond the sport. That is now
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Is that assault?
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Like that's my opinion, is this is now assault.
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you did it twice.
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Like intentionally.
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Can't argue. How about
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~ right. So this is the standard suspension for anything
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in the CFL. It's two games for on field.
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Anything on field.
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makes me wonder sometimes and I wanna tread lightly when I say this,
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but I sometimes wonder if the CFL Players Association is more worried about people's
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game checks than player safety when things like this happen and they're like,
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This was what was agreed to and I'm like,
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interesting, interesting. it'll be interesting to see what happens.
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with lawsuits and charges when they have like collective bargaining agreements
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and employee if they how they how they sort this out illegally.
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but yeah, there's a line you should not expect this to happen to you on
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a field of play. Like I think there's a line there.
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I saw that the the teams are not allowed to assess as extra disciplinary measures
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on players. That's a that's a
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Yeah.
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player C F
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LPA agreement that they are not allowed to do any more discipline.
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So their only recourse is to release him.
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I saw Rigmaiden for BC say that.
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I just I think that is weasel words.
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I think that is backing away. The team should have come out with
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a very strong statement about not condoning it at all.
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Not a statement that said, he's a be a good guy who made a mistake.
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And as far as they can't do any further discipline
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They a team is free to move people around their roster all they want.
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They could easily say, You're on the practice roster the rest of this season.
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Is it retaliation for what you did?
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Well not officially. But we don't want someone who plays like that on
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our team until you prove us maybe next year you're better.
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So they could do lots. That is a double speak weasel words.
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I'm sorry I don't know
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The BCGM but I was really disappointed with that.
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And it makes me wonder does their defense condone it?
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or does their team condone it?
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Is it a w anything to win attitude?
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'Cause I did not get any remorse out of that at all.
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I got more of we're oops, we got caught.
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And B C should know.
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They might not be able
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to well they might not be able to say anything because of an impending lawsuit.
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having players being charged criminally for actions in a game is
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not something new to BC fans if you follow hockey,
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right? Think about Todd Bertuzzi.
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So when when we're talking about players being suspended and fined,
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yes, by the league, but I think that there are some precedents out there that yeah,
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you can
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move this beyond what happened,
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like beyond what the team can do.
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So the team can't retaliate, but could this player press criminal charges?
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I don't know what their contracts would say and I would hope so.
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Yeah.
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Or civil lawsuit or ~ something.
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Yeah, I don't when when we start getting into the laws around sports,
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I know that there is at least a real reluctance to get legal authorities,
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justice authorities involved. I don't know what the actual rule is.
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how much you can get away with before it becomes an assault.
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But either way, that two game suspension
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for Hagerty they said
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in the reporting I saw, it equals the longest suspension for any one incident
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in a game. What's his name? The idiot with the riders a few years ago that took
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out ~ Jeremiah got a four game suspension,
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but that was for repeated incidences apparently.
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I again I know they've got to
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So it'd be interesting
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because ~ we can talk about it in the game,
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but Kevin Metall punched an Elks player in the groin.
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So I'll be interested to see if he gets suspension or if there's tiers of players.
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Yeah. And
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the Elk player got suspended for a retaliatory punch
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Thank you.
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to the chest, which was almost nothing or not suspended,
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but ejected. Yeah, no, not a good look for the CFL at all.
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It's things are more important than football.
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I just hope Talbot's gonna be okay.
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they were understandably vague about it,
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but I hope it isn't something that you know
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~ anyway, and I thought it was gonna be a ~ maybe a ten minute show because
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we only have three games and not a lot of news,
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but I forgot how much we like to talk.
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Okay, anything else there my disgust I feel is is fully vented.
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Any everything okay? Alright,
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so moving along, the next bit of news was about Chad Kelly and the fact that the
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Word came out this week that he's suspended his contract extension talks with
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the Argonauts. So no real word on what that means.
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A lot of people are speculating maybe that he's getting prepared to go
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to the Red Blacks. However, I did see today another article,
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this was in Three Down again, talking about the fact his agent says they're trying
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to tie his contract to the salary cap.
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So whatever he signs for, if the salary cap
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expands his salary automatically goes up.
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Which I hope they don't nobody does that because that is a that salary
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cap is meant to be able to reward the entire team.
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Having one player come in and say,
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no, I want this percentage of it no matter what it is to me is again just greed.
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Everybody's deserves to make money,
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but welcoming your thoughts.
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And I wonder
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who else this agent represents because if they are starting to build their
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own business and saying, I'm going to represent quarterbacks,
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I am going to fight to get you a percentage of the cap versus like
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the dollar I'm wondering who this agent is that is convincing or is
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it Kelly asking for that? But like not a lot of other leagues do that.
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the MBA players get a percentage of the cap.
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But I don't think any other leagues really do percentages.
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so I'm curious who his agent is and if his agent is trying to
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gain clients by trying to force the hand on changing how C
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FL contracts are negotiated because you've got this rock star quarterback that
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you clearly wanna keep, so what are you gonna do about it?
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it's a gamble will it pay off for Kelly?
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I don't know.
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I don't begrudge Kelly and his agent trying this.
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I just hope nobody in the CFL actually gives into it.
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Because if that's the way you want to do it,
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then okay, let's start tying your contract to your winning percentage.
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To how much time you spend on the field.
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Or interceptions.
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Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
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Interceptions.
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if you're gonna say I want I want a contract that protects me
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no matter what happens, I want my percentage of the salary cap no matter what,
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then the team has the right to say,
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Okay, then we want a prod ~ a contract that protects us and your contract
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is variable by performance, including can you stay healthy and stay on the field?
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So I'm just like wondering what his end game is because is it him being talked into
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this as being a good idea? Or is this him going to his agent saying,
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This is what I want, let's make it happen?
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we don't know the Kelly other than what we see out in the media,
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so it's hard to say, but he hasn't appeared to be a generous,
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magnanimous man to me, so I think he's probably in it for whatever he can get.
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All I could think about when I saw that news headline was I was like,
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does he think he's Vladdy? Because this is what Vladdy did last year,
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but Vladdy is Vladdy, and you are not Vladdy.
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So I just laughed to myself I was like,
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who do you think you are? You think you're some sort of hotshot?
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Like, gr come on. Anyway, I joked with my sister that this is the most Toronto thing
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you can do, is say you're
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Yes.
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pausing your contract talks in the middle of the season.
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Yeah.
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Throw a few more interceptions
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Well, we'll see.
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and suddenly. Well, alright.
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Yeah. Yes.
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I was like, I hope he stays
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Yes.
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with the Argos. Well actually I hope he never plays anywhere,
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but if he is gonna play somewhere,
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I hope it's the Argos because whatever team he goes to,
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I can't cheer for them.
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Yeah,
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I feel the the same on that. And yeah,
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he added two more interceptions this weekend,
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so he's he's got the modern CFL record for interceptions in the season
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and he's just gonna keep adding to it.
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Good. That's a record I'm happy with
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Alrighty.
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him breaking.
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Yes. Yes. Yeah, so I will we'll see where he is next year and if he gets what
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he wants, but I I get annoyed.
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I mean these are these people are playing the game for their living,
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so they have a right to make a living.
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But being greedy and expecting to do better at the expense of everyone else
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on the team is not not kosher to me.
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Also, you you
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did not need to announce that you were pausing your contract talks.
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No.
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No one needed to know that information.
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And
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But that's
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this information
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no one needs to know either. About w yeah.
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But that's his whole MO, like I'm
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I'm coming back, I'm training,
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I'm gonna be back. And then on
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Yeah.
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his Instagram and suddenly the team's like,
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no no no no
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Yeah.
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Yeah, he likes the attention, that's for sure.
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and I'm not gonna give him any more right now.
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I'm gonna move us along to something else.
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To the have you seen the new all the teams have indigenous logos
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for Truth and Reconciliation Day.
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The CFL now has one. Have you all well maybe I'll tell people before
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we jump into it. Created in consultation with national chief Woodhouse Napinka,
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I believe I
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Terrible with names and also three indigenous artists from something called Change
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Matters. I like the look of it.
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The motif they say refers to the whole Turtle Island idea and references
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a medicine wheel and their four directions of life philosophy.
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apparently CFL and Wilson have come up with customized footballs that will have this
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and the ind they'll have orange laces
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Orange Wilson branding and the club's indigenous logos too.
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They'll be used for kicking and punting purposes.
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And then some teams will be auctioning them off or giving them
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to community groups to auction.
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And the league also says it has partnered with Capital Power to
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put indigenous youth football clinics on in Edmonton,
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Calgary and Hamilton and introduce a new eight week flag football program.
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So that's that's good news all round.
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As much as I like
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to reg on the CFL for their marketing,
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this I think they got right. I not even think this they got right.
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Like consultations, making it part of the community,
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really understanding that spirit of generosity,
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mastery, like a lot of those, I don't know,
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core values. So I think well done CFL on on this one.
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I'll ~ Yes,
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And it's beautiful.
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I'll see if I can stick up a copy of it up here.
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I quite liked it. But that was the other thing I wanted to think just aesthetically.
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Obviously, MJ, you're thinking it's good.
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Any other comments on it or?
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yeah, well you know what this is ~ as much as we like to rag on them,
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~ indigenous ~ like football games and then like truth of reconciliation,
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this is something the league does very well and they are very committed to.
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So I th I just think that's really great.
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I'm glad they can continue moving it forward and pressing to do even more every
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year.
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Well and it's
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really cool. The Stampeders they were out on Soutina Nation.
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They were out ~ dodging horse ranch,
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a bunch of them, I don't know who all from the team went out,
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and they spent some time there with the horses,
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like some of the relay racing.
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they were playing some of like traditional Soutina hand games,
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and so I just think that's really such a great step to make that connection with
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that community.
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And so hats off to the stamps for doing that
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personally I think the stamps have the best of the the indigenous logos.
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I love that. BC's is good, but I like the stamps better.
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And actually I enjoy all of them.
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I'm not big on the riders one in green and white.
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It looks a little washed out to me.
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When they added the full color version,
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which isn't always on jerseys and everything,
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I love that one. And I like this new one from this for the full CFL.
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It looks to me not cluttered. It looks
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just about right for what they're trying to do.
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A nice looking logo obviously I don't know what all of the importance
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to ind indigenous culture is that they explain in here,
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but I appreciate the fact that we're letting them design it and tell
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us what it should be.
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Alrighty. Moving on. Argos won on the Saturday and clinched their second place
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at least in the thing. I don't know if more needs to be said about that,
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but so we have ~ the Alouettes the Elk and
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the Argos now all clinching playoff spots and knowing what their well,
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I guess the Argos are the only ones that know what their minimum is yet.
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There's still we can talk about it when we get to the games for next week
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for this week coming up, but
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Montreal and Edmonton still have a bit of work to do to lock down first place.
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Part about this was the social media for the Argos.
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I don't know if you saw it, they had this Instagram
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I'm so
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reel of like a bus ad and in the ad it had all of like the commentators
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not picking them to win that game.
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And then they put like this stretched out poster and it wasn't just
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Yeah.
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that they won, it was that they qualified for well.
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Yeah.
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So I thought, okay, well done social media,
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like, yeah.
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Yeah, exactly.
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They must
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have a new social media person this year because their social media
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has been stepped up quite a lot.
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Well, and they needed to. They were struggling,
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Yeah.
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but I'm glad
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to hear that. full credit to them.
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Again, we'll talk in the games,
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but when we picked the game and this is not me saying I told ya,
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so it's just th I w I guess maybe it is,
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'cause I will say when we did the picks last week,
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I mentioned my fear is coming off two big wins against your inter province rival
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and feeling really good and then having to travel across the country,
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can there be a letdown? And
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I felt like there was, but Alrighty,
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what else do we have here? ~ this one annoyed me.
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'Cause we've been talking lately about the amount of of advertising
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the CFL is taking from betting companies,
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gambling companies. MJ, you've talked about how their ads are all over Alberta
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and Yeah, you should be free to gamble,
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I guess, if you want. We're all adults.
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We should be able to do what we want.
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However, the ~
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The website Futurism put out an article today where they talked about
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the fact that there's people from DraftKings,
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ex employees that have come out talking about it and say that they
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are actively using AI to identify who the problem gamblers are
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and not help them with their problem,
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but maximize the profit off of it.
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Who is losing the most money who responds the most to our promotions loses
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the most money and then
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We want to keep them losing money.
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And that just
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It shows that their whole thing about we're worried about problem gamblers
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is only because the law says they have to put it there.
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This just gets me thinking about like the ethics of
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Excuse me, just sec.
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sponsors, right? ~ I mean yeah,
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like CFL, whatever, any sports,
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I don't know like what are your mission statement or what are your like company
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values I guess how do you say no to money
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I don't know, it doesn't surprise me,
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~ to hear that. But for me,
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my question is, okay, well then what is this league's at like,
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yeah, what's their ethical code around taking money from sponsors
22:25
and is that something that they would even bother looking into because it's such
22:30
a strong connection. This these companies make so much money off of sports.
22:35
Yep.
22:36
I don't know how you get around that.
22:39
And I can't remember if I've seen DraftKings ads on CFL or not.
22:43
I think they are more of an American type one,
22:46
but if one of these companies is doing this,
22:49
it raises questions about all the others.
22:51
Because yeah, I mean, it's greed and money money talks.
22:54
if that's what you're doing, if you're exploiting vulnerable people to
22:58
try and make your fortune, I have no respect for you.
23:02
Well, this is capitalism as intended.
23:04
This is exactly what they like there's no morals in this.
23:09
This is purely money making I mean it looks like algorithms on social media
23:13
are the same. I
23:15
Yep.
23:15
mean obviously they're not staking all your money,
23:17
but it's like a feature, right?
23:19
If you're not paying you're the you're the product.
23:19
Yep. You're the product, yep.
23:21
But
23:23
but again, like maybe this is my own personal hang up.
23:27
maybe see because I have played sports for so long and sports are such a
23:32
big part of our family and like a lot of my friendships I guess maybe
23:35
I'm totally naive when it comes to yeah,
23:39
I gotta realize and remember that sports are about making money.
23:42
at the end of the day, they need money.
23:45
Yes.
23:45
to do
23:46
the things and you have to if you want owners to invest,
23:49
you have to make sure that you somehow are giving them money back.
23:52
Otherwise why would they invest?
23:54
but at heart it just like kills me a little bit because,
23:58
you know, I don't know, you think about like sports as maybe again,
24:02
I'm naive, like as this noble,
24:04
I don't know, the this thing that you get involved in because you love something
24:08
so much and you're part of this team and community.
24:12
I don't know, I maybe I should just watch Olympic sports instead.
24:15
But even that money is involved.
24:16
They yeah, even that's
24:17
So I
24:18
UFC's
24:19
Well
24:19
trying to get into the Olympics.
24:21
So
24:21
And I mean, just think
24:22
about how many players and coaches and referees are involved
24:27
in betting scandals now. And that's just the ones you know about And honestly,
24:32
sometimes I think that this is just gonna take down professional sports.
24:36
all the major sports in the US have banded together and asked certain states they
24:40
want to ban player people from gambling that are harassing
24:45
the athletes and harassing the officials and because these people
24:50
are just being inundated with people coming at them for making them lose a parley,
24:56
making them lose their money. I would bet it's not that professional athlete's fault
25:00
you bet your rent money. Right?
25:02
~ but this is where we find ourselves and it's just there's no regulations.
25:07
There's no regulations really and it's just completely spiraling under control.
25:11
control and you're taking the money because these betting companies
25:14
are giving your league money, but there's there's a fallout gonna happen.
25:19
Because it can't keep going the way it's going.
25:22
there's there's such a thing as ethical investing.
25:24
And if you're saying money trumps all,
25:27
I don't agree. And yeah, it doesn't happen as much here,
25:30
but we saw last year after the Western final,
25:32
Nathan Rourke saying him and his family were getting death threats over losing that.
25:36
I
25:36
can see why when you are you know,
25:39
you're putting vulnerable people in a tough spot and they lose.
25:43
And these are the people you're looking for,
25:44
not the ones that are smart enough this is what the article said basically.
25:47
It's not the people that are betting a lot and winning a lot.
25:50
They're looking for the people who bet a lot and lose a lot and can't seem
25:55
to stop themselves.
25:57
I wonder like is the CFL Players Association would they be part
26:01
of any conversation about that?
26:04
Because if it comes down to player safety,
26:07
like getting death threats, would that not then would they not then have
26:11
the right to show up to the CFL and say,
26:14
hey, we need to have a look at who our sponsors are?
26:17
Because if we're sponsoring companies that actively are causing these things
26:22
to happen. But I guess
26:23
I don't know how you control any of that.
26:25
I don't know. 'Cause what's the line between,
26:26
Yeah. I
26:28
yeah, we can't stop these people from gambling and and giving death threats,
26:33
but we also want their money, so I don't know.
26:36
I I posted about this on a couple of social media places today and I think
26:40
it was Gander, one person came back saying,
26:42
Sounds to me a lot like a distillery handing out fifths of scotch at an AA meeting.
26:47
You know?
26:47
Yeah.
26:48
Alrighty. Well, let's ~ let's get past that.
26:54
Cause that's again, we've had some negative thoughts here.
26:56
I'll link that article in the show notes if anyone cares,
26:58
by the way. The next one is not necessarily a positive item either,
27:02
'cause looking at the attendance this week,
27:03
second lowest average of the year.
27:06
The ~
27:08
The average was eighteen and well,
27:11
eighteen thousand and sixty one.
27:13
So only week three was lower and that was games in Hamilton,
27:17
Edmonton, Ottawa and Calgary when Edmonton hadn't turned it around
27:21
yet Calgary was the high with over little over twenty thousand
27:25
and Toronto was the low at just under sixteen.
27:28
So
27:29
Yeah,
27:29
Toronto, even on TV. Like we were watching the game and we're like,
27:33
is anyone even there? It it looked empty.
27:35
Yeah. And that was a big
27:37
game for them and for Edmonton,
27:39
so I don't know. But hopefully it'll pick up next week when we'll we'll have
27:43
a game back in BC. We'll have I think Edmonton is back home,
27:47
so that should be good stuff. Winnipeg's home.
27:49
Those three should should really pump it up quite a bit.
27:53
And then we'll see what Ottawa gets.
27:55
Maybe they get some fans out after coming so close.
27:59
what did I have here? Player transactions.
28:02
Not a lot to talk about this week.
28:04
The BC Lions released Chase Brice at quarterback.
28:07
they re signed Robert Carter Jr.,
28:10
the DB after he was released from I think it was Indianapolis he was with down
28:14
in the NFL. So he'll be back maybe playing this weekend.
28:17
And one that I said was a a non-name,
28:22
Chris
28:24
Oladukum, I believe. And MJ said,
28:27
Wait, wait, wait, he's got some NFL experience and we should talk about him a bit.
28:30
So I'm gonna let you talk about him,
28:31
MJ.
28:32
Well, he okay, so this is a backup QB from the Kansas City Chiefs,
28:36
and I know you don't want to talk NFL,
28:37
but the Kansas City Chiefs are one of the biggest football teams going.
28:41
And he said he told Patrick Mahomes that he wanted to play more.
28:44
And then Patrick's like, Well,
28:46
yeah, if you want to play more,
28:47
yeah, they go tr yeah, go try CFL.
28:49
Go try to play more if you want to get more playing time.
28:51
And I was like, So you picked the BC Lions when you wanted more playing time.
28:56
That's
28:57
Yeah.
28:58
the worst
28:58
Ottawa, Hamilton.
29:00
Yes, yes, but he may not have picked them.
29:02
It may have been a negotiation list kind of thing.
29:03
True. True. Where's GT?
29:04
Yeah.
29:05
Yes.
29:06
Yeah. But anyway, I just laughed
29:08
But he has signed.
29:09
to myself and I was like, but ~ when you have like Patrick Mahomes and
29:13
CFL in the same little news clip,
29:16
I think that any any press is good press,
29:18
right? So that was that was big for the BC Lions and the CFL.
29:22
he is listed on their depth chart.
29:23
He's not even on practice roster,
29:24
he is like QB three, so
29:26
Yep.
29:27
who knows? Mahomes plays a lot similar style of game to what Rourke does.
29:32
And I mean they got rid of Brice and kept Salter,
29:34
who's also sort of that dual threat.
29:37
So maybe this guy is fits in there too,
29:39
and who knows? Maybe a couple of years from now maybe not with B C,
29:42
depending on if they stick with Nathan for the decade,
29:45
like everyone's saying, but if he gets in a few games and performs well
29:49
Somebody else might come calling when his contract's up.
29:52
as a Ti- Cat fan, it's ~ really important these days to know who your third stringer
29:57
is.
29:58
Yes. Yes. Yeah.
29:58
Yes, yes.
30:02
Unless you have three of them,
30:04
like the Ty Cats do. Anyways. ~ and then I also added here,
30:08
since we're gonna do that, I'm pulling my my Rider fandom and putting it
30:12
in that the other bit that I noticed just before game time or before showtime here
30:16
was the Chicago Bears have released Kyle Hurgle,
30:19
who was the Riders draft choice,
30:21
I think, in twenty three or twenty four.
30:24
and has been knocking around with the O lines down there in New Orleans and whatnot.
30:28
He's played well enough.
30:31
I don't think we'll see him back up here,
30:33
but it gives some hope, some extra hope to to those of us with the riders.
30:37
It'd be nice to see him added to that line that we have there.
30:41
And that pretty much takes us to the games.
30:44
All three of them. First one,
30:48
Montreal 37 at Hamilton twenty-five.
30:51
You know, in this game when you look at it,
30:55
it looks like well, if you look at it not the game,
30:59
but just if you're afterwards checking in on the stats,
31:03
it looks like maybe Hamilton should have been in this one all the
31:07
way and maybe should have won it.
31:09
I mean they didn't take many penalties.
31:11
Montreal took yeah.
31:11
We'll take that.
31:13
Yes, thank you.
31:13
Montreal took eight pen
31:14
penalties for ninety five yards.
31:17
Montreal had forty sorry sorry,
31:20
I guess fifty one seconds more time of possession.
31:24
It was thirty one forty nine to twenty-nine whatever fifty-one.
31:29
So the time of possession was about as dead even as you could get.
31:34
Hamilton got the only sack there was in the game.
31:37
Alexander threw for twenty one of twenty seven for only two hundred
31:41
and nineteen yards and two TDs,
31:43
whereas Frost threw for
31:44
Three hundred thirty three of fifty,
31:47
three hundred and thirty yards,
31:49
three TDs, but he threw for four interceptions.
31:53
We'll talk about more what happened in the game,
31:56
I guess we can, but I'm gonna let you two.
31:58
Being Hamilton fans, give them your give us your impressions.
32:01
I will start
32:03
I started watching the game and I saw an interception and then I
32:08
saw a second quarterback get an interception and then I left the house to
32:12
go to book club and I said to MJ,
32:15
I'll watch the game on Sunday.
32:17
And she said, don't bother. The game wasn't even over.
32:20
So those are my game notes. Done.
32:23
Okay, MJ.
32:24
Yeah.
32:25
Alouettes I
32:26
started watching about the time you stopped watching by the time I got home,
32:30
and then I picked it up and I saw a screenshot.
32:32
I was looking at the thing, it was like Jake DeLagella fumble for a touchdown
32:36
and I was like, no. And then equal distribution
32:38
Well, you gotta have equal distribution of
32:42
of interceptions is very important.
32:44
Yes.
32:45
didn't even have to play the second half of this game.
32:48
They definitely did not play in the fourth fourth quarter.
32:51
They had packed up and gone home.
32:52
And then
32:52
Yeah.
32:53
afterwards they were like, guys,
32:55
we should probably like play the last three minutes.
32:58
Just like shut the door on this.
33:00
It's getting a little dicey. They had three points going into the fourth.
33:05
Three.
33:08
There okay, so right before half they went for a field goal instead
33:11
of the the touchdown, and I was really upset because I was like,
33:15
why why you're down twenty-four?
33:17
I think it was they were down twenty-four nothing,
33:19
like just go for the frickin' touchdown.
33:22
And people, you could hear people booing in the stands,
33:25
and I'm like, ~ rightly so. Rightly so,
33:28
you should be booing. Like, you don't take the sure points here.
33:31
Like, you're down so much. Just go for it.
33:34
It was what other things? ~ Caleb Evans got a short yardage touchdown,
33:38
so was nice to see him back in the CFL.
33:39
Yes. Yeah, knee all healed and stuff.
33:40
~ Sneed
33:43
yeah, Sneed got hurt, so that's not good for the Alouettes And
33:47
They got a big man T D again. So Alouettes really liked running that play.
33:52
It's good for them. And Scott did not sit Harrison down after four
33:58
interceptions, which makes me wonder why.
34:02
he will not put up with turnovers,
34:04
you know, unless you're the the quarterback
34:07
Assets.
34:08
that he wants to in there play in and then he'll and then
34:08
Unless it's Harrison Frost, I guess.
34:11
he'll find a reason to justify it.
34:13
No, I I agree. I will say too before you go on that I found
34:17
it interesting that Montreal with their high power offense and all well lots
34:23
of good receivers, but basically Philpot and Sneed catching everything that's thrown
34:27
near them
34:28
their first drive, they finish it off with a what was it,
34:32
about a thirty yard or twenty some yard pass and run to Rohan Jones,
34:36
their draft pick they've just put in at tight end.
34:39
And then Ventrelli, their guard that plays tight end,
34:42
and gets the pass in the end zone.
34:43
So yeah, going they were definitely
34:44
Yeah. Perfect.
34:46
going against tendencies in that first drive.
34:48
I'll let you go
34:48
I wish A C
34:49
I wish A C was calling my offense for my team.
34:52
That's what I know.
34:54
And this
34:54
is where I'm thinking Jason Maas is a genius coach because you know this is
35:00
a t a tough defense to play against and here he is with AC calling
35:05
all these different plays, trying it out.
35:07
this is a team getting ready for the playoffs,
35:10
playing against a good defense when they know that they've got this game in hand.
35:14
So hats off to the Alouettes for doing that because I think that's a hard game
35:18
to coach, especially after
35:21
all the nonsense that went on during the week to come back and be able
35:25
to do that and ~ play disciplined like that.
35:28
So well done, Jason Maas
35:31
Like semi,
35:31
Yeah.
35:32
semi disciplined, but more disciplined than before.
35:34
Wow, yeah.
35:34
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like
35:36
I said, na ~ eight penalties for ninety five yards,
35:38
Eight only eight. They're no Calgary.
35:39
so semi disciplined
35:41
But no. No. That is
35:41
They're no Calgary, yeah, d they are no Calgary,
35:43
that's for sure.
35:45
true. But but you mentioned also that there was the the short yardage with Dallagala
35:50
where the ball kind of popped out and bounced around the top of the pile
35:53
for a couple of seconds until Boschman for ~ Montreal just s ~ look what's there,
36:00
reached in, picked it up and ran for a touchdown.
36:02
And no
36:03
Did
36:03
one knew what was going on.
36:03
you feel the nails
36:04
in the coffin of the season being hammered in at that point?
36:08
Cause I sure did.
36:10
Yep.
36:11
My my note
36:11
Yeah.
36:12
after two interceptions Yeah, it says ~
36:13
I'm glad you went to book club and did not watch the rest.
36:15
Right.
36:16
goodbye season. But those are what my notes say.
36:19
So like there n what there's no coming
36:19
Yeah. Unfortunately, yeah.
36:20
Yeah.
36:21
back.
36:23
It's ~ yeah, and I mean yeah,
36:26
I d losing Bo is tough and it probably would do the same to just about
36:31
any team in the in the C FL losing their starter.
36:34
But it's unfortunate
36:34
But then losing your second.
36:36
they haven't they've only been able to pull off a couple of lucky wins since then.
36:42
GT was right, because if the if Chad Kelly went down,
36:45
Arbuckle would lead that team.
36:46
No problems. He would probably win them a gray cup.
36:47
Yeah. Yeah. That's true.
36:50
But but that's and that
36:54
I don't know if that would be true for Montreal with Crumb,
36:56
but those are probably the two that you f can feel confident about in my mind.
37:02
I don't think Brown is Ottawa would have been better if they kept him.
37:05
But I don't know that he's the answer in Winnipeg.
37:08
Powell may be in Edmonton. But yeah.
37:10
Yep. Love is playing good in Calgary and
37:11
Yeah. Yeah, love.
37:13
Yep.
37:14
yeah.
37:14
Yeah.
37:15
And I guess officially the he's now number one,
37:18
but MB two MBT with in in Ottawa was a a good insurance policy.
37:23
But ~ yeah, and love has had one good game and then part of a
37:27
So does Salter
37:28
game that looked okay. So I'm I'm reminded that it wasn't that many years
37:33
ago that Jake Maier came in and won a few games for Calgary and everybody
37:37
was he's the next big star in this league.
37:40
Yes.
37:42
And actually that happened to Nick Arbuckle too,
37:44
so I take Josh Love with a grain of salt.
37:46
What else did I had a couple other things worth mentioning here.
37:49
I thought that there was a I I do like good clean hits,
37:53
and there was a huge hit from Richards on wooden on one of the I one
37:58
of the early punt returns. Wooden basically cut right into him
38:01
and and got slaughtered. Maltos Diaz slipped on a convert and still got it.
38:06
through just barely which is interesting to see.
38:09
to rewatch that
38:10
Yeah.
38:10
because I didn't catch it at first.
38:12
But yeah.
38:13
Yeah.
38:14
I had some some issues with the officiating this weekend.
38:17
There was a unnecessary roughness call on Burns when basically
38:23
two hit a Hamilton Tiger Cat But all Burns didn't they called it a pile drive.
38:28
He didn't pile drive the guy. All that he did was he made a textbook tackle.
38:34
He put his shoulder into his chest,
38:35
grabbed underneath the guy's knees,
38:37
and pulled him up, and the guy goes down backwards.
38:39
That's how you tackle. That was apparently unnecessary roughness,
38:44
which really disgusted me. And then later in the game again there was
38:48
a play that there was no penalty on,
38:50
and the replay center decided to step in and call roughing the passer.
38:53
And when they showed it, it was because one of the defensive tackles
38:57
had reached back inside and tried to take him down and sweep his
39:01
arm across the front of him.
39:02
But it was all on the chest. It was nowhere near the face mask or helmet.
39:05
And so yeah, this game and then the next one,
39:09
the Toronto game, I wish the replay center would just unless something's egregious,
39:15
stay out of it and let the officials on the field,
39:17
call it.
39:19
And I keep thinking about the officials on the field.
39:21
Like if you're gonna call the game,
39:23
why am I standing here? Right?
39:25
Yeah. Yeah.
39:25
Like so at
39:26
some point that might change how you call a game too.
39:30
officials have feelings. So I can't imagine it's great when your boss calls
39:36
you out in front of thousands of people.
39:39
Yeah. Like in the next game where they're like,
39:40
that wasn't off side
39:42
Yeah,
39:43
Yeah.
39:43
yeah.
39:43
Yeah.
39:44
and that that catch you called wasn't a catch because maybe his hand didn't
39:49
get underneath it. Far from conclusive.
39:51
But we're gonna step in and stop the play 'cause yeah.
39:54
Did not like that.
39:56
I don't understand the mandate of the replay center this year.
40:00
They were supposed
40:00
I don't know that
40:00
they do. I think it's got a lot
40:01
to be less.
40:02
to do with who's in the center and
40:03
I thought they were moving
40:04
with urgency. I thought that they were like,
40:06
We're gonna speed this up and then like,
40:07
yeah, no. You're just slowing things down again.
40:10
I mean I really think that the game in BC impacted
40:17
a lot of that. I think there was probably a message to the replay center,
40:21
get involved more if you have to to keep the game under control.
40:24
And they took that wrong. I was gonna talk about this in the Calgary game,
40:29
but I'll say now Tim Croker was the head and his team had the B C Montreal game.
40:34
He was the head official there.
40:36
That Calgary game he was officiating with an attitude.
40:41
He was making sure that every time there was a call,
40:45
if they didn't give the number of the player,
40:47
he was coming back with it. There was one point where he's marching down
40:50
the field and clicks on his mic and just as he's going through it it
40:52
was I'm in charge here. It's this is I'm large and in charge,
40:56
yeah, so he obviously got the message don't let it go like that.
40:57
You know what, I just I would think maybe the
41:00
those officiating crews might be as frustrated as we are 'cause they probably don't
41:04
understand what's
41:05
going on either and I do feel bad for them.
41:07
And that just got away from him,
41:07
Yeah.
41:08
yes. I noticed
41:09
~ the little tail in the background there and you had a guest in for a minute there.
41:13
My
41:13
dog keeps going back and forth.
41:16
I'm in the living room and he's one way and then another way and so
41:21
he might come back to visit.
41:21
Hey. We're happy
41:23
to see him a good looking dog.
41:24
my little puppy has wandered in here with to lie down on her bed beside
41:28
me because the goddess is off doing her singing tonight.
41:31
But I'm just hoping that Coyote doesn't see your dog or we may get get
41:35
a a cross screen
41:35
A dog like
41:36
clash here. She's so far she's been staying out of view down there.
41:40
We'll see.
41:41
My dog's
41:41
not allowed in here 'cause she is too vocal.
41:44
Well we we do we do like our guest
41:44
He's the Alexander.
41:45
maybe we'll have to do a segment one time with with all our dogs on just
41:49
to be shown.
41:50
yes.
41:50
Yeah.
41:52
Any anything else about Hamilton in Montreal or do we jump onto
41:55
the surprise in Toronto?
41:58
That's what we're doing then. Toronto twenty four,
42:02
Edmonton nineteen.
42:04
Just flip that around. Yeah. Kidding.
42:04
Yeah, just like sad.
42:06
Yeah. Hey, I know how believe me,
42:10
years of being a rider
42:11
fan, I know how tough it is when when things just do not go your way.
42:16
And that's not
42:17
I think I think
42:18
the the the the likelihood of us winning a great up with the old rules
42:22
is slowly slipping away, guys.
42:24
Yes. Yeah, hey.
42:26
Yep, that could be, mind you, next year you've got a better chance
42:31
of making the playoffs.
42:33
Maybe not.
42:34
Okay. ~
42:36
so this Edmonton Toronto game,
42:38
I think the story here was Kelly was two T D's and two interceptions,
42:42
which is, kinda standard for him,
42:44
but Fajardo was two interceptions and zero T Ds.
42:47
And as I said earlier, I felt like they just didn't have the bounce in their step.
42:52
Toronto was one yard of rushing for six carries,
42:57
their total for the game.
42:58
They had minus one rushing total.
43:02
Okay, well the the stats that I saw I saw at one point they had minus one.
43:05
The stats that I saw the official ones today said it was one yard for
43:09
six carries on the game tracker.
43:10
Yeah, because Smith
43:11
Smith had minus eight yards,
43:13
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
43:14
and Chad had six yards, and Jones had one yard.
43:18
So minus one rushing,
43:19
~ okay, so Okay.
43:22
and still won a game. What?
43:22
Yes. Well not only that,
43:26
but they also had
43:27
I had it down here, twenty one minutes and fifteen seconds of possession.
43:31
So Edmonton had the ball twice as long as they did.
43:35
they did rush. Toronto was holding up relatively well against a rush,
43:40
but Edmonton ran thirty three times for a hundred and fifty three yards and you
43:45
You have the stats there, I imagine that was Cody and Rankin to together with it,
43:50
but
43:50
Yeah, Cody had 63 yards, and Rankin had 89.
43:53
the Elks also had 30 first downs,
43:56
and the Argos had 14.
43:58
They had two sacks each, but the receivers from Toronto just kept getting behind
44:05
coverage. I don't know what it was,
44:07
but it became every time that they were showing us on
44:13
the T V and the shot would be of Kelly stepping up in the pocket
44:17
and then launching one deep, I knew that okay,
44:20
well
44:21
There'll be somebody else fifteen yards behind coverage here,
44:23
and that seemed to be what it was.
44:25
They knew they were throwing, they clearly weren't running.
44:28
You knew they were throwing. I just I
44:31
That
44:31
don't understand.
44:32
that was the whole Elks game. My notes for the Elks are couldn't finish tackles,
44:36
couldn't convert interceptions,
44:39
couldn't get second downs, couldn't catch the long balls,
44:43
couldn't run. So
44:44
Yeah.
44:45
I mean at what point like yeah,
44:47
you're you've got I mean, a lot of
44:51
second downs and you've got a lot of rushing yards compared to whatever.
44:53
But if you're not having those long bombs that get you down into good field position
44:58
and you're not converting those interceptions I I don't know.
45:02
And you're letting them
45:03
throw deep on you time after time.
45:06
And yet
45:06
Yeah.
45:07
Yeah.
45:07
with
45:07
all that said, if it hadn't been for a bad snap,
45:10
Edmonton would have won the game.
45:12
Because David Beard put one over Fajardo"s
45:13
Ooh.
45:13
That was brutal. That was brutal.
45:16
head and
45:16
Brutal.
45:17
Ralph Hawley picked it up. So the third big man defensive T D in two weeks.
45:21
And one on offense.
45:22
Yeah, I have a note that's saying
45:24
that high snaps are a TICAT's thing,
45:26
you're not allowed to steal it.
45:27
That's our thing.
45:27
~ Yeah. Yeah.
45:27
Yeah. Get your own problems. But I mean that one was awful.
45:30
Get your own problems, is right.
45:31
Yes.
45:32
~ I have a joke that,
45:34
Like the
45:35
like,
45:36
there was four interceptions in the end zone between these two and I was like,
45:39
this like a Ben don't break defense in the most bizarro,
45:43
like last-second way possible.
45:43
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
45:45
Like, don't stress us out like that.
45:46
Yes.
45:48
how the it ended all. The that in the end zone,
45:51
Interception in the end zone. Yeah.
45:51
right? Like what
45:53
a weird game.
45:55
Yeah.
45:55
What a weird game.
45:57
It had its moments. That one interception in the end zone.
45:59
Ross made an interception in the end zone that was a pass to Coxie where Coxie
46:04
saw the pass was short and he basically mugged him.
46:07
He had one of his arms trapped against his body.
46:10
He was pulling him down and Ross somehow reached back one handed
46:13
and caught the thing. So there were some good plays,
46:15
but just not enough for Edmonton.
46:17
They just
46:17
Was
46:17
that the play where they got the misconducts ~ for unsportsmanlike Yeah.
46:22
Yeah. No, that was earlier in the the game that
46:23
~ okay.
46:25
they that they they took off setting misconducts.
46:27
But yeah, they were they were fighting hard through the the game both times,
46:32
There were a lot of
46:32
yeah.
46:33
misconduct penalties in this game.
46:34
Yeah. Andre Prue was putting up with nothing.
46:35
Like a lot. Yo,
46:35
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
46:37
But again but that was like
46:38
he was he had not having it. But then Mattel punches someone in the groin
46:40
Yeah, he was in control again.
46:43
and that is not flagged. He should have been ejected.
46:45
Yeah. And yet
46:47
I can understand the officials on the field didn't see that,
46:49
but as we said earlier, Replay Center jumps in on a an in on
46:50
Yeah. But the replay center looked at it.
46:51
Replay.
46:54
calling a pass incomplete and overruling an offside,
46:56
but they're gonna let a punch to the groin just Yeah.
47:00
No problem. We'll throw the other guy out.
47:01
Didn't d didn't they review that and change like some
47:03
They did.
47:03
pen they reviewed it and changed some penalty yardage?
47:06
Yeah.
47:07
And they still didn't Ugh
47:09
Yes.
47:10
So not
47:12
So we'll
47:12
see what happens. Like I wonder if they caught it at all or if it shows
47:16
on game film or or ~ well then
47:17
the replay showed it quite clearly.
47:19
It may
47:20
not have been a punch. It looked like an open handed slap.
47:24
He looked like basically ~
47:27
We're
47:28
not allowed to open hand slap,
47:29
I thought, in the CFL. th I thought that wasn't a immediate objection,
47:30
No, no, you're not. I agree. Yeah.
47:33
I was told.
47:34
That yeah, that doesn't change anything at all,
47:37
the fact that it was open hand,
47:39
not the punch, because it the Ottawa safety after a tackle was lying
47:42
on top of Mattel. Mattel slammed him up into his groin with with his hand
47:47
and the heel of his hand, and Garns re retaliated with a short punch to the chest.
47:52
Garnes gets thrown out of the game and Mattel gets a
47:55
They obviously saw it 'cause he got an unnecessary roughness.
47:58
But yeah, so the
48:00
'Cause him getting thrown
48:01
out of the game would have changed everything because that was Kelly's like only
48:07
target. Well not only, but pretty much.
48:07
Yeah. Yeah.
48:08
Is he not thrown
48:09
He was spreading it around a lot.
48:09
out because he is a star receiver?
48:11
He got those deep passes to lots of people.
48:12
Do you z you
48:13
you throw out star receivers or do you throw out defense guys
48:16
and special teams guys?
48:18
Yeah. I that's
48:19
a question. And when the when the officiating goes badly,
48:23
it affects the entire league for a week or two.
48:25
And I think we saw that in this game.
48:27
so you know, and and yes, it was called a lot tighter too,
48:31
but but they they did miss that stuff.
48:34
But yeah. They like I said, some interesting stuff.
48:38
The I wanna say
48:39
Edmund
48:39
the fun one of the fun things is the Elks did a third and one long bomb gamble.
48:43
That was fun. Yeah. And it worked.
48:44
I was just gonna mention that.
48:45
They yeah, and it worked the Mac.
48:47
Yeah.
48:48
Mac attack.
48:50
Yeah.
48:51
And that was actually probably third and two,
48:53
so if you're ever gonna expect
48:54
Yeah.
48:54
it it should have been that time,
48:56
but they didn't. Anderson played really well on defense,
48:58
That was the one bright spot.
49:00
but
49:01
Just couldn't put it together.
49:02
Like they were doing
49:03
Yeah.
49:04
things, it just wasn't
49:05
It it was that finish. Like you're you're tackling,
49:08
Yeah.
49:08
but you're not
49:08
finishing it. Like you're you're getting there,
49:10
but you're not
49:12
the one Toronto touchdown to Miller,
49:14
Kelly looked like Trey Ford out there.
49:17
Scrambling
49:18
Yeah.
49:18
around to one side of the field all the way back to the other so full credit
49:21
to him on that.
49:23
What is calling that game? I forget now.
49:26
I think that was probably Dwayne and Marshall,
49:28
but I don't recall for sure.
49:29
man,
49:30
they loved that that play. They went on and on about Kelly running and showed
49:35
Yeah. yeah.
49:36
it a few
49:36
On and on.
49:36
times and like they're like, This is like the play of the of the year
49:41
the panel called it the play of the year.
49:43
And I was like, come on, panel.
49:44
Yeah. I've seen yeah. It's been a good year for some great
49:45
I think that was the one they call play of the year.
49:46
And I was like,
49:47
I wonder what we're
49:48
plays. And yeah, I don't think it'd take long to put forward put forth
49:53
a video montage that's that. Yes,
49:55
that was a good good play by Kelly,
49:57
full credit to him, but not great tackling by the Elk linemen.
50:01
They took bad angles on that. And then the other thing that
50:05
the Elk were getting fantastic huge returns from their new returner.
50:09
They stuck in the game
50:10
Yeah.
50:10
until it mattered. And on the last kickoff when they suddenly they've
50:15
Needed.
50:16
gotta come back and and score a touchdown to win,
50:18
he gets it to the twenty five.
50:20
it was not that they made a lot of mistakes,
50:22
but the timing was always bad on them and
50:25
I don't think it's Yes.
50:25
Unfortunate for the elk.
50:27
We'll see how that affects somebody's power rankings this week,
50:29
but I don't think that it tells us that Toronto was a better team than Edmonton.
50:34
just I think it was a Yeah.
50:35
Well, Toronto did clinch a playoff spot big from this game,
50:38
I don't know, I guess you come out prepared and you come out doing the small things.
50:42
You come out finishing those tackles,
50:45
you come out doing that extra few steps to get in behind or to get in front
50:51
of a ball, right? So I think that Toronto and Edmonton,
50:56
like it could have gone either way,
50:57
but I feel like the players on Toronto were,
51:00
that cliche. Like they were dialed in,
51:02
they were locked in and it showed
51:03
Yeah. Yes.
51:04
They were
51:05
playing the top team in the league,
51:05
Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. Yeah.
51:06
right? Like and made them look
51:07
And made them look bad.
51:09
And
51:09
bad.
51:10
yeah. And Edmonton just was not locked in.
51:12
But yeah, and yeah, Toronto's locked in second place.
51:16
They'll Montreal can lock in first place this week,
51:19
I believe. No, they they're not playing so Toron yeah,
51:23
They're not plain.
51:23
I think
51:23
with the Toronto loss they still lock in first place.
51:26
It's not may it's two weeks out that they can do it.
51:29
Edmonton with their loss
51:32
Now very well could be the end of the season.
51:35
That is possible, depending on how it all plays out,
51:37
that that Saskatchewan Edmonton game at the end of the season could
51:41
be for first place. The the Saskatchewan BC game will have a lot to say about that.
51:45
But but if
51:46
Mm-hmm.
51:46
that one is for first place, then the again the BC Winnipeg game
51:52
on that last weekend will be for third or fourth.
51:55
So it could be a very impactful Western weekend of football.
51:59
And like I said, that's where they can finish.
52:01
So now let's talk about a couple of teams that can clinch playoff spots
52:04
by maybe late September 2027.
52:08
that's Ottawa and Calgary.
52:10
And everybody was saying
52:12
Dreams.
52:12
this could be Ottawa's first game.
52:14
This could be Ottawa's first win.
52:16
This could be Ottawa's first win.
52:17
And my question to both of you
52:20
I'd love your thoughts. What could the Red Blacks possibly have done to piss
52:24
off the football gods this badly?
52:26
Well, in my prediction I said that like I don't know,
52:29
it the Red Blacks kinda remind me of the Tie Cats where you can play well
52:33
and then in the fourth quarter it just falls apart enough that the other team
52:38
is able to power through and win.
52:40
And so I thought that that's how the Red Blacks are looking these days.
52:43
They don't know how to win in that fourth quarter.
52:46
But I sh they should have won.
52:49
better this fourth quarter and that actu it actually it was their first
52:49
They did. They did.
52:50
Yeah, they played well enough
52:52
to win.
52:52
it was
52:53
their first quarter. If they had played well the first quarter,
52:55
they
52:56
probably would won but I will give them a pass for that because McLeod Bethel that
53:00
was like his first real like quarter of football with the team,
53:03
Yeah. And who
53:04
but
53:04
But also coaching. Why wouldn't you go for early point?
53:08
And you went that's a whole me anyway.
53:09
Yeah.
53:09
Well, we'll talk we can talk about that 'cause
53:10
Ha ha ha.
53:12
Souter was all about that and I have a pro I have a problem with him on it.
53:16
But really, Ottawa did everything they needed to to win that game.
53:20
Yes.
53:20
Just
53:20
who was counting on a sixty two yard field goal by a hundred and forty year
53:24
old quicker? You
53:26
Yes.
53:26
know, it's the start of the season,
53:27
I thought for sure he wouldn't make that.
53:29
the book on on Paradise
53:29
Yeah.
53:30
was well inside forty five he's probably still really good.
53:34
But ~ my God.
53:35
Sixty two.
53:37
Fifty seven and then sixty two.
53:39
Of course.
53:39
I mean credit
53:40
to the kickers to to win that,
53:42
but Ottawa played above themselves,
53:44
I thought. Calgary played less than they're capable of,
53:48
but enough to win.
53:50
Any other thoughts on it?
53:52
Lots of thoughts.
53:54
Lots
53:54
of thoughts. ~
53:55
Good.
53:55
Dave won a challenge.
53:56
Yes.
53:57
Yes.
53:58
Very I know this has to be a newsline whenever it happens because
54:01
it doesn't happen very often and you need to see yeah,
54:03
so that was exciting. ~ the stamps,
54:05
I was like, find you something you love as much as the Stampeders love holding
54:09
on returns.
54:10
Yes. Yeah, they they gave up a lot of yardage on those penalties.
54:17
Mm terrible field position every single time.
54:20
Every single time.
54:20
That's my note.
54:20
Fourteenth.
54:22
Field position. I I in my soccer league I play with a woman and she always yells,
54:27
Ladies, don't make it hard and that's what I wanted to yell at the stamps.
54:32
Like
54:33
Yeah.
54:33
you're giving like yeah, the field position was what lost them that game,
54:37
Like also like what a waste of time for your returner to be like running
54:39
I think. Or not lost, but
54:41
and then like
54:42
actually march it back forty, sorry.
54:43
It's back there, yes. Yeah.
54:44
Like sorry
54:45
you ran all that way. Like
54:48
Well, when I talked about Ottawa playing well enough to win,
54:51
they had penalties. They had six penalties for twenty-eight yards.
54:53
So basically less than
54:56
Nothing.
54:56
five yards of penalty. Calgary had fourteen for a hundred and seventy-seven.
55:01
And that most of that I think was on those kickoffs.
55:04
Returns
55:05
It yeah, 'cause they were getting they were getting the ball.
55:07
he's at the forty-five, he's at the fifty,
55:09
he's at the the Ottawa
55:10
Yeah.
55:10
fifty. no, we'll go back and start on the twenty.
55:13
So
55:13
how much do you think that they're practicing on special teams on how
55:16
to tackle this week?
55:18
Well yeah, or or how not to tackle if you're blocking.
55:18
Boy, Craig, Craig, get your team.
55:20
Get that special teams in order.
55:22
Yeah.
55:22
Yeah, just
55:23
let it go, let it go.
55:24
Yeah.
55:25
But I I don't know, I get really excited for Ottawa.
55:27
I really like Eberhart. Like I loved him last year in BC
55:30
Pew.
55:31
and I know that he's one of their stars,
55:33
but he really is. Like he never quits.
55:35
He he is always there. I thought McDonald had a great game as well.
55:39
Yeah.
55:40
I mean, I know
55:40
Yes.
55:41
that White got the three touchdowns,
55:42
but I just thought, you know, if we're looking at how you win games
55:46
is by scoring points. they seem to be catching for McLeod Bethel Thompson.
55:51
So whatever they're doing, it's working.
55:53
And I mean, and then you've got Pimpleton.
55:55
Like that that touchdown, like,
55:58
beautiful. I'm so happy for Ottawa to see
56:03
~ some of these things coming together.
56:04
And then I think Ryan even praised his team after the game.
56:08
Yeah.
56:09
And and so I I because he's yeah,
56:12
these guys keep showing up and it doesn't show in the locker room that we're losing
56:16
and they're here and they're giving it their all.
56:18
And I thought, Who is this? this an AI?
56:20
they certainly looked like a
56:21
team. Five five passing touches f touchdowns for MBT,
56:22
Yeah. Five touchdowns.
56:25
yeah. Five. You know, they they were doing it.
56:27
And you mentioned McDonald.
56:28
I know and White had White
56:29
had three receptions and they were all TDs.
56:32
Like
56:32
Yes. Yeah.
56:32
Yeah.
56:34
I was debating between
56:34
So in the meanwhile
56:35
him and Robostelli when I was putting my fantasy team together
56:38
and I took Robostelli. Turned out it was okay.
56:40
Yeah.
56:40
I had ~ I had had a good week,
56:42
but but
56:42
They like
56:43
targeted Hardy nineteen times.
56:45
Yes.
56:46
and then inexplicably the the Stampede decide to not cover him and
56:51
he gets a touchdown. Like, what
56:52
Yep.
56:53
do you you know that you're throwing to him?
56:56
I yes, I d
56:57
This is
56:58
I agree. I agree.
56:59
I feel like I'm
57:00
talking about this game as if Ottawa did win because in my head they
57:04
did win because I'm like, ~ Calgary,
57:06
they you know, they shouldn't have taken those penalties.
57:06
They did win in in our hearts.
57:08
In my heart they did.
57:08
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, unfortunately they are still O and on the
57:10
And Calgary, like, why aren't you losing Alfred more?
57:13
scoreboard, you you mentioned McDonald.
57:15
He had w what could have been the catch of the year and it was incomplete 'cause
57:19
of a slight bobble. But that was still take nothing away from that fantastic catch.
57:25
I just want
57:26
go ahead.
57:26
to like prop up Calgary for a minute?
57:28
~ they don't deserve a lot of it.
57:30
But Mac Mahone had a really nice game.
57:32
He
57:33
Yeah, he did.
57:34
had a really he had 102 yards rushing and 24 yards receiving,
57:39
so that was nice to see him. They did a little video where he's like
57:42
Mac Mahan and McMahon. Mac Mahan and McMahon I was like,
57:44
Yes. Yes. Yeah.
57:46
this is fun. This is fun. We're having fun.
57:47
Yeah. I'm I'm sure the me I'm sure
57:50
their social media departments had that on hold since he signed.
57:53
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
57:53
Just get him in a game so we can do this.
57:55
Yes. Yeah. Well,
57:56
that was that was good. ~ but yeah and
57:59
and you mentioned
58:00
MJ two. You mentioned about the go for points when you can,
58:04
but that's the thing that was early or late in the first half.
58:08
They had a chance to kick a field goal,
58:11
Ottawa did.
58:12
They went for it on third and ten down on the ten yard line,
58:15
didn't get the points. And Suiter as an analyst was harping on that for
58:19
the rest of the game. If they'd only taken that three points,
58:22
if they'd only taken that three points,
58:24
what difference would it be? What kind of lead would they have if they'd only take
58:27
Well, that completely misses the fact that Dinwiddie had coached like that since
58:32
he was in Toronto. If he's down close,
58:34
he's gonna go for it.
58:35
He's going for it.
58:36
Count on the fact we're gonna stop you and then get another touchdown
58:39
a chance rather than go.
58:41
kick the ball and give it to you at the forty.
58:42
And they did that. They gave up one first down after they turned it over
58:46
on downs and then Calgary shanked it out of bounds.
58:49
They got it Ottawa got it at the thirty and got a touchdown before
58:52
the half was over. So what would have happened
58:53
And I feel like
58:54
if they had kicked that field goal,
58:55
they would have had seven points less is what would've happened at the
58:58
end of the game. My opinion.
59:00
Yeah. Well
59:01
and I and I know like I like ragging on Ryan Dinwiddie and I already said something
59:06
positive about him and I'll say it again is yeah,
59:08
like that's a lot of belief in your players to say,
59:11
I'm going to trust you not trust you,
59:14
but we are going to run this play because I know I know we can
59:19
get this first down and especially at the beginning of a game versus saying,
59:24
No, we're we're pulling you guys,
59:25
we're gonna settle for the three.
59:27
And so as much as I don't maybe always love Ryan,
59:31
yeah. Like could they have used the points?
59:33
Maybe, yeah. But in the end, like you said,
59:36
i it did actually turn out okay.
59:39
And and I think that that's part of coaching too,
59:41
is knowing when
59:43
that point would be worth it versus showing confidence
59:46
Yes.
59:47
in your team because maybe that's what we need a little bit more.
59:50
Yeah. Exactly. Trust the defense.
59:52
It says something great to the defense when you do that.
59:52
You know what? wanna be Scott and
59:54
And and yeah, and I mean I've been harping for about three or four weeks that
59:59
a team with nothing to lose is can be desperate and dangerous and they've been doing
1:00:02
desperation badly. Making stupid calls at the wrong time out of desperation.
1:00:07
this game they didn't. This time they did desperation right.
1:00:10
They said this is these are smart ones and I will say,
1:00:14
you know
1:00:15
I'm back and forth ~ on Mr. Dinwiddy 'cause he's obviously got some coaching talent
1:00:21
and he can get teams to wins, although it's been a year for him and
1:00:25
the team he's coaching now. But he's he's also there's some stuff that just
1:00:31
I struggle with with what his attitude was.
1:00:33
And completely aside from all of that,
1:00:36
there was a shot on the sidelines of him talking to MBT.
1:00:41
They've got the pad there, they're looking at it together.
1:00:45
Ryan's got that beard that's gone grey on him now,
1:00:49
so he looks like an old man like me.
1:00:51
And his mannerisms on the sideline,
1:00:53
I swear, he looked like the old man going down be just throw it!
1:00:57
Just throw the ball. Just throw it
1:01:00
I could be wrong, but that was certainly what I took away from it.
1:01:03
Well he was throwing it.
1:01:05
Yeah, he was. Yes. Yes, he was.
1:01:08
He played a great game. my favorite McLeod Bethel Thompson moment was
1:01:12
off field at the end of the game where they had him s he was just sitting there with
1:01:15
his eyes
1:01:15
Yeah.
1:01:16
closed and they panned in so tight to him and I'm like,
1:01:19
my goodness, leave this poor man alone Like Yeah,
1:01:21
Yeah, looking very zen, yes. Yeah.
1:01:24
What more could he have done?
1:01:24
like he
1:01:25
Yeah, at that point there's
1:01:27
Like there's
1:01:27
nothing left I can do. It's
1:01:29
nothing left that he could do.
1:01:30
He did everything he could have possibly done to win that game.
1:01:34
Yeah. Yes.
1:01:34
He threw five touchdowns. Like
1:01:37
what more could he have done? ~
1:01:39
Calgary
1:01:39
Three hundred
1:01:39
and thirty yards. Yeah. Yeah.
1:01:39
tried everything they could do to help them win that game.
1:01:42
Calgary was helping. Calgary,
1:01:43
Yeah.
1:01:44
even on the last play, they took a time count or whatever they did,
1:01:47
Yeah. Yeah.
1:01:47
and they had to put that field goal back another 10 yards.
1:01:49
They were trying to not win. But Renee was like,
1:01:51
Yes. Yeah, exactly. Yes.
1:01:53
I think I shall. I shall win then.
1:01:55
Tonight I shall, indeed.
1:01:56
~ Yes.
1:01:59
Just Cannot believe that win. Can yeah,
1:02:01
they c like I say, Ottawa should have had that.
1:02:04
If if they'd kicked if they'd been on the forty five and kicked a fifty
1:02:08
two yard field goal out of Paradise after he'd already had a fifty seven,
1:02:10
I would have said, Well, okay,
1:02:12
that was good for them and they obviously deserve that win.
1:02:14
To kick the sixty two yarder after the penalty still just
1:02:19
With the w it was with the wind,
1:02:21
Yeah, I don't care.
1:02:21
but still.
1:02:22
No. My my my
1:02:24
only concern is for the stamps is is V A okay 'cause i in the third
1:02:30
his ankle did not look great.
1:02:33
his own player like rolled on him and they're like they
1:02:35
Yeah. And so I don't
1:02:35
Yes. Yeah, and he's
1:02:37
probably taped it up and he was up there but they're like no he doesn't have tape
1:02:40
on I was like
1:02:41
Yes.
1:02:41
no what's going on
1:02:43
I don't
1:02:44
know. mean, obviously
1:02:44
Not well.
1:02:45
somebody in the medical department they've said that he's okay to play,
1:02:49
but ~ he doesn't seem making good decisions,
1:02:51
it just doesn't seem to be with it.
1:02:53
It's you know, it's sort of like that last game.
1:02:54
We were joking about the fact that Frost didn't get pulled after four interceptions.
1:02:59
I'm glad he didn't 'cause I don't have faith that Trey is ready to play either.
1:03:04
And I have a feeling that may be why Frost stayed in there.
1:03:05
No. And Dola Gala already
1:03:08
also fumbled in that game. So which fumbley quarterback shall you pick?
1:03:09
Yes, so that there's that too,
1:03:11
yeah. Yeah, yeah.
1:03:12
Like
1:03:13
But hey, the O lines did okay.
1:03:15
Ottawa didn't get a lot of running,
1:03:17
but they got a little bit. Like you said,
1:03:19
Calgary got a bunch and no sacks in the game.
1:03:23
Even up against Hicks and Orimalde
1:03:23
That sucks. ~ the VA can buy him dinner again.
1:03:27
and all that, so yeah.
1:03:29
Yeah, but this was the most entertaining game by far this weekend.
1:03:33
And f fully admitting I did not watch the second half of the Ty Cat game.
1:03:37
But but this was it was really fun.
1:03:39
I don't know if there's that hope involved that like this could be the one.
1:03:43
And so every play you you just buy in,
1:03:46
like af after every catch. And then the touchdowns started happening
1:03:51
and and you just caught the fever.
1:03:52
Everyone I think wants the Red Blacks to win,
1:03:53
Yeah. ~ I think so,
1:03:55
except for the team that they're playing against.
1:03:56
yeah.
1:03:57
Ever everyone who's not a Calgary fan and who knows,
1:04:00
maybe some of them even yeah. That was the only part that made that sort
1:04:04
of worthwhile was s wanting them to win it 'cause yeah,
1:04:06
like I said, it should have been
1:04:08
it was a really exciting game,
1:04:10
but I just couldn't get into it 'cause yeah,
1:04:13
I hope they
1:04:13
okay, this is gonna happen
1:04:14
and it will never matter again.
1:04:16
~ It's the joy of football. I hope they play like this the rest of the season.
1:04:19
Yeah. Yeah.
1:04:21
Yes. Spoil.
1:04:21
Cause that was fun.
1:04:24
They were playing good fun football and
1:04:24
Yes.
1:04:27
their receivers were popping and I enjoyed it a lot.
1:04:30
And yeah. it's funny, I was just thinking of like how like Tyra Banks,
1:04:33
where we're like, we were all rooting for you.
1:04:35
I was rooting for you. We were all rooting for you,
1:04:38
Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
1:04:38
Ottawa.
1:04:41
And and it was good to see them playing like that,
1:04:43
but the question is, even playing like that,
1:04:46
will it help them against an Edmonton or a B C or well they don't play Montreal
1:04:52
again, Whatever. I I think that part of the reason that they looked like they were
1:04:56
playing well was they were playing Calgary,
1:04:58
who's been struggling too.
1:04:59
Which is yeah, so there we go.
1:04:59
Well, they get to play the Tie Cats twice,
1:05:01
so I mean
1:05:03
and I were also texting about this.
1:05:04
What is going on in Calgary? You've got again,
1:05:08
I think you said this last podcast,
1:05:09
like on paper, this team is good.
1:05:11
yet for whatever reason, just like the Elks game,
1:05:15
like Calgary consistently can't seem to put it all together.
1:05:19
to win I mean I know they won,
1:05:21
but they won against Ottawa. and so I just think like is that part of your culture?
1:05:26
Is that coaching? Is that leadership in the locker room?
1:05:28
But again, like they seem to have all these pieces.
1:05:31
So why why isn't it all coming together for them this year?
1:05:36
I just don't get it.
1:05:38
It is Grey Cup year in Calgary.
1:05:40
Yeah. And they
1:05:40
Yeah. The banners
1:05:41
are up. It looks great.
1:05:43
And they start the season strong and then this happens again.
1:05:48
Sorry, go ahead.
1:05:49
Maybe they'll
1:05:50
be maybe they'll be the crossover team and go on a run and it'll be they'll
1:05:53
be the East nominee in the
1:05:55
Yeah.
1:05:55
Grey Cup.
1:05:56
Maybe, but I wouldn't hold
1:05:56
There we go.
1:05:58
your breath.
1:06:00
We were
1:06:00
my husband and I were joking about them like,
1:06:01
wouldn't be hilarious if they like crossed over and just ran the table
1:06:04
and then like ended up with the great cup anyway.
1:06:05
Yeah. Yes.
1:06:07
I put their chances of making the crossover team probably slightly below Hamilton's
1:06:12
chances of making sure there is no crossover.
1:06:14
So
1:06:15
Yeah.
1:06:16
Mm.
1:06:17
Could happen, don't think so. Yeah.
1:06:19
Yeah, but there's a lot of fans
1:06:21
in Calgary asking questions about what do you do when you've got a team like this.
1:06:26
maybe the answer is it's time for a makeover and clear the front office,
1:06:31
start again. 'Cause unfortunately they did
1:06:32
Yeah. No.
1:06:35
they also lost their two best coaches last year when Dickinson said,
1:06:39
Lost or ran out of town.
1:06:39
I've gotta blame somebody, so
1:06:42
I'm gonna get rid of Killem and and Monson which you know well.
1:06:46
Now I I will say though that
1:06:50
Even before the game started, you watch the TSN panel and they basically said,
1:06:55
~ this is really gonna be crap.
1:06:58
Can you please just try and make it interesting?
1:07:00
You know? That's it. They I think the actual line was,
1:07:04
please try and give us something good.
1:07:06
So so And they
1:07:09
Fire those guys.
1:07:11
got
1:07:11
Half I don't want really watch halftime anymore because I cannot stand
1:07:13
I don't anymore.
1:07:14
most of what happened comes out of their mouths.
1:07:16
I like
1:07:17
Milt Steagall because I feel like Milt doesn't hold anything back anymore.
1:07:21
and so sometimes I might agree or disagree with him,
1:07:24
but I feel like he's one of the only ones out there that yeah.
1:07:26
Yeah. Yeah. Saying what he thinks,
1:07:29
yeah.
1:07:30
I will agree with that. Yeah, I I do watch the pregames I skip through
1:07:33
the interviews. I watch the pregames just to see what they have to say,
1:07:36
but I don't know that I gain a lot of value out of it.
1:07:38
And yeah, I just unless the game's dead boring,
1:07:41
I just I even skip through the halftime 'cause I don't need them to tell
1:07:45
me what I already saw.
1:07:46
That's true. You wanna see Chad Kelly's?
1:07:48
But you don't need to watch their AI videos.
1:07:50
~ God, yeah.
1:07:51
~ The
1:07:52
wrestling one. ~ man, I wish I hadn't seen it.
1:07:55
The like Milt's
1:07:55
But
1:07:55
dog of the week AI video, like
1:07:58
Yeah. I I haven't seen I haven't even seen that.
1:08:00
I know he does the dog of the week.
1:08:02
it's so bad. It's
1:08:02
I know he did ~ the Edmonton
1:08:05
Kicker, I think is his first one.
1:08:06
I haven't seen it since then.
1:08:08
It's so bad. It's embarrassing.
1:08:11
Like TSN should be embarrassed of themselves.
1:08:13
Like like it's so bad. Like w like up your
1:08:16
Breaking news. Yeah. TSN should be embarrassed of themselves.
1:08:19
up your production value, please.
1:08:21
Like
1:08:22
Yeah,
1:08:22
we want to be entertained. You are saying that
1:08:24
Yeah.
1:08:25
the players should entertain you.
1:08:27
You are in the entertainment business.
1:08:27
Yeah. Yeah.
1:08:29
Anyway.
1:08:30
Yeah, maybe you should
1:08:31
like o anyway.
1:08:33
Yeah, and s
1:08:33
yeah, and spend less time with AI doing your graphics and probably your scripts
1:08:38
and everything else and just and yeah.
1:08:40
Maybe hire some content creators.
1:08:42
Just be
1:08:42
Yeah.
1:08:43
entertaining commentators.
1:08:45
Just roll social media clips from the teams,
1:08:45
No. Yeah
1:08:47
please.
1:08:48
Yes.
1:08:49
Alrighty, I think we've beaten the games to death.
1:08:52
~
1:08:52
Yeah.
1:08:53
So that means it's your time to shine,
1:08:57
the official CFL
1:08:58
Mm.
1:08:58
Mm.
1:08:59
Outsiders MJ Power Rankings.
1:09:03
I want you to know my husband and I got into an argument about these these power
1:09:06
~ W
1:09:06
rankings.
1:09:08
Where did you put B C?
1:09:08
We do not provide any counseling,
1:09:09
I can say you
1:09:10
Because he said I
1:09:11
should keep GT's rule of not moving people around during the bye week.
1:09:15
Uh-huh.
1:09:16
And then he was like, Well have you moved people around in the bye week?
1:09:19
But then I couldn't remember and he's like,
1:09:21
Well go back and look at all your power rankings and see and look at the
1:09:23
Mm-hmm.
1:09:23
scores and I was like, No.
1:09:25
I'm like, I am moving people around on the bye week.
1:09:28
I feel like this week's a little bit wild.
1:09:28
Yep. Everybody else did.
1:09:30
There's only
1:09:31
there were three teams on the bye,
1:09:33
and some weird things happened.
1:09:35
I think next week it'll shake out a lot different,
1:09:39
but for now, this is what's going on.
1:09:41
so power rankings. Number one back at the top,
1:09:44
Alouettes
1:09:46
Allah Lions stay at number two,
1:09:48
elks go down to number three. Number four is the Argos.
1:09:52
This is what we fought about. The bombers stay at five,
1:09:55
the riders stay at six, the stamps stay at seven,
1:09:59
the Tie Cats stay at eight, and the Red Blacks stay at nine.
1:10:02
Although I contend that they might be the way they played,
1:10:04
they could probably move up, but if they had won,
1:10:06
Yep.
1:10:06
they would
1:10:07
have.
1:10:07
Yep. I could I I can certainly live with what you've got there.
1:10:11
Yeah, well how about you, MJ too?
1:10:13
do you have any disagreements on that?
1:10:15
There's al there's always lots of people on the social media and Reddit especially
1:10:19
~ the Riders people Riders
1:10:21
fans will not be happy with this.
1:10:24
No, but the
1:10:25
but it reflects of the way that they've been playing with the injuries lately.
1:10:29
I I'm I think it's a good place to put them right now.
1:10:33
I'm not worried about it because I have a feeling that they're in two,
1:10:36
three weeks they're gonna be back up.
1:10:39
These are snapshots in time, people.
1:10:40
in the top three somewhere, but
1:10:42
but we'll find out. Anyway, so I but
1:10:44
Yeah, I'm curious
1:10:45
to see how the Lions come out of this for next week and where they move,
1:10:50
but
1:10:50
Yeah.
1:10:51
yeah, so that would be my only one.
1:10:53
But I don't know. I was really hoping I was really hoping
1:10:55
Those top three I'm juggled around.
1:10:59
for Ottawa to be number eight.
1:11:01
Yeah, me
1:11:01
Yeah.
1:11:01
too. If they beat Calgary next weekend I am moving them.
1:11:04
Because
1:11:05
a hundred percent.
1:11:05
d you pretty much have to, yeah.
1:11:07
McLeod Bethel is playing way better than anything Hamilton's putting
1:11:11
out on the field.
1:11:12
Yeah.
1:11:12
Yeah.
1:11:13
Exactly. And
1:11:13
Yeah.
1:11:13
I mean Hamilton was playing Montreal,
1:11:15
they were playing Calgary, so there's that comparison.
1:11:17
But they definitely outplayed
1:11:18
Yeah.
1:11:18
Hamilton this week.
1:11:20
Yeah.
1:11:21
Yeah.
1:11:22
Alrighty. So
1:11:23
So I I expect
1:11:23
we'll see ya
1:11:24
a lot of movement next week, but for now I didn't really as we we
1:11:27
had an argument about this one and and I don't feel great about it and I
1:11:31
I don't but it was a weird week
1:11:33
Snapchat.
1:11:34
and there was lots of people on the bye.
1:11:36
full credit to you, it was a tough one to do and I'm I'm glad again you're
1:11:40
the one doing them. Like
1:11:41
No.
1:11:41
I said, a lot of people, especially Reddit,
1:11:43
most of the complaints are, my team isn't where it should be.
1:11:46
But there are a few that that are actually intelligent comments and it's good
1:11:50
and I think my favorite one was from a red black fan that went,
1:11:53
Hooray! We're still in the top ten
1:11:56
Ha ha ha.
1:11:59
Believe me, you you're you're playing better than the Ti-
1:12:02
cats right now, so sky's the l like you're moving up and then moving up.
1:12:05
I kinda
1:12:06
Yes. Okay.
1:12:08
probably could have put the stamps below the Thai cats,
1:12:10
but I still think that they're I still think they're better than Ti-cats
1:12:11
Not yet.
1:12:11
Possibly, but I don't know 'cause I don't know that
1:12:14
they're yeah, I mean I th I th I think you've got Yeah,
1:12:17
Is does garbage time move you up in the rankings?
1:12:20
I don't think so.
1:12:21
I agree with probably just about everything that you've got there.
1:12:26
I still might flip Edmonton and B C the way you have them,
1:12:30
but
1:12:31
Well, I hmm, those top three are tough.
1:12:33
Yeah. Coming off this weekend though,
1:12:34
it's you know, it's hard to tell.
1:12:35
So yeah, and and everybody was was was ignor everyone that does power rankings this
1:12:40
week was the ignoring you don't move people on a bye rule.
1:12:43
Everybody had had stuff all
1:12:44
Yeah, this is a weird one. Three.
1:12:45
Yeah. It you can't
1:12:46
when three teams are on the bye,
1:12:47
you gotta you can't you can't.
1:12:49
When one team is on the bye, that is different.
1:12:52
Yeah.
1:12:53
Yeah. Well, especially when you've got sort of like well,
1:12:56
and the three teams in one division and yeah,
1:12:58
anyway. But enough of that. We gotta do our predictions for the game,
1:13:02
so let me tell you what we know about the injuries so far this week.
1:13:06
Now keep in mind only three of the eight teams have had their second
1:13:11
day injury report in. Tuesday was the first day for five teams,
1:13:17
so you've got to keep that in mind.
1:13:20
Because
1:13:21
For instance, Winnipeg, which was on their second day.
1:13:24
They on their first day they had an entire laundry list of did not participates.
1:13:29
And then Colaris was the only one on day two that was still did not participate.
1:13:34
But Toronto was on their first day.
1:13:37
Holly, McFadden, and Priester were all did not participate.
1:13:40
It sounds like Priester is longer term.
1:13:42
I thought he got hurt a while back,
1:13:44
but I could be wrong. and Holly and McFadden will see,
1:13:46
'cause they're both
1:13:48
important to that team.
1:13:49
like I say, Winnipeg only Colaras by day two.
1:13:52
Saskatchewan was on day two. They had the one that's sort of of note was
1:13:57
I'm I I believe it's Aladdo. I'm not even sure.
1:14:01
Alodopoe Jr. anyway. He's been starting at Sam for them the last couple of games.
1:14:05
He was did not participate, so that could be a a loss to them.
1:14:09
And they had Edward on the limited,
1:14:12
so hopefully he's okay. The good news for them was that Keon Schaefer Baker,
1:14:17
Ouellette
1:14:18
and Woods were all back full at practice,
1:14:20
so they'll probably be playing in that very important game this weekend.
1:14:24
BC Cherry wa and Colden from the defense Cherry's D line.
1:14:29
Colden's on the defensive backfield.
1:14:31
He was did not participate. If he is out,
1:14:33
that's gonna keep hurting them because Peters wasn't on the list,
1:14:36
but I've heard that he is still struggling some and they're gonna
1:14:39
be down Haggerty and Roland Kent this weekend.
1:14:43
Now that
1:14:44
Robert Carter will be back there,
1:14:46
but two days practice getting plugged into it.
1:14:48
He played there last year, but you know,
1:14:49
how there've been a lot of other changes.
1:14:51
How will that work? I don't know.
1:14:52
As
1:14:52
if their defense needs to be any better.
1:14:56
still have I still don't think their defensive secondaries were very good.
1:15:00
it's about to it's about to pop off.
1:15:02
We'll see. We'll see.
1:15:05
Malden was also limited. So those those three,
1:15:08
Winnipeg, Saskatchewan and BC were the ones that are on the second day.
1:15:11
The rest of these, along with Toronto,
1:15:13
are all day one. But Calgary Bagleton was with a head injury this time.
1:15:18
My goodness.
1:15:19
Yeah. Was yeah.
1:15:20
~ Reggie
1:15:22
Yeah. So
1:15:24
I don't know, and Demoray
1:15:24
No.
1:15:25
from the O line, they were both did not participate.
1:15:28
Ottawa again, day one, but Ambers,
1:15:32
Bell, Blaylock, Cole, Aiden John,
1:15:35
~ Tehema all did not participate.
1:15:38
And McDonald, who made a couple of great catches on the weekend.
1:15:42
Morgan, Pearl, Talala, Vicaro Fry and from the defensive backfield
1:15:48
and Cormier were all limited. So hopefully they
1:15:52
didn't lose too many people. We'll see.
1:15:53
And then Ham
1:15:55
They have like a hundred
1:15:56
people on their like six game list.
1:15:58
Like they are they they have an entire like apartment block full of
1:15:59
Yeah. I know, yeah. An entire team,
1:16:01
What a season.
1:16:02
men on the injury list.
1:16:03
yes.
1:16:05
Hamilton, Panabaker, Peters in the both defensive backfield,
1:16:10
Revenberg on the O line and Wooden for returner where did not participate.
1:16:14
~
1:16:16
those are important players.
1:16:18
Yes.
1:16:19
Yes. And Edmonton, Beard, and Robostelli did not participate.
1:16:24
~ Maybe
1:16:24
Yes.
1:16:24
Wistelli ~
1:16:26
he's just sick. Maybe his friends were in town.
1:16:29
I don't know.
1:16:29
Yeah. Yeah,
1:16:29
Yeah.
1:16:30
I don't know. No, he ~ they I think they said ankle with him.
1:16:34
maybe.
1:16:34
Alrighty.
1:16:36
So that takes us to the games.
1:16:38
And this this weekend will be interesting on well
1:16:45
at least two of the games. The first one,
1:16:48
Toronto at Winnipeg. Toronto's already clinched second place.
1:16:52
They can get first, but they're two or three games out of it with five games to go,
1:16:58
so
1:16:59
We'll see how motivated they are.
1:17:00
Winnipeg is still in the fight,
1:17:02
basically a game behind Saskatchewan and two games behind Edmonton,
1:17:07
tied there with B C so
1:17:10
You're you're just back the first time this week,
1:17:13
MJ. We'll throw it on you to start with this.
1:17:15
Winnipeg or Toronto.
1:17:16
Excellent.
1:17:17
Great. I'm so happy to start first.
1:17:20
~ this is the one where I had no idea.
1:17:22
if the bombers are playing well,
1:17:24
~ but Toronto was able to hold the run game,
1:17:28
but the bombers don't run anyway.
1:17:31
So I don't know.
1:17:34
Caloras not at practice. So it's probably Brown,
1:17:38
may or maybe Brown starting.
1:17:39
Yeah.
1:17:41
Yeah. and they beat up the you know this is really hard.
1:17:45
I'm gonna go with the Argos.
1:17:48
Okay, MJ.
1:17:49
Okay, first I do not trust Mike O'Shea's injury list,
1:17:53
so I assume Zach's playing. are they gonna play as well defensively
1:17:58
as they played last game? because if they do,
1:18:00
the Argos are in trouble. But now I feel like the Argos are clicking and
1:18:05
I they made the Elks look bad.
1:18:07
They made the Elks look bad.
1:18:10
no. I hope Major Williams is has a really fantastic game and like ball hawks
1:18:16
all day, but I think I'm gonna pick the Argos.
1:18:18
This brings me no joy. It brings me no joy.
1:18:20
it brings me no joy.
1:18:21
Yes. Yes.
1:18:23
you're right, this one's a a tough one.
1:18:25
Now something else that I didn't mention before,
1:18:29
just before we started recording here,
1:18:32
I saw another three down article quoting Younger,
1:18:36
the ~ DC for Winnipeg. And he basically said,
1:18:40
Yeah, we probably got away with some pass interference in that banjo ball game
1:18:44
and pretty much said
1:18:46
We saw that they weren't gonna be calling ~ PI,
1:18:48
so we played really tight. And that's what they did.
1:18:51
They were on top of the riders receivers all game.
1:18:54
Will they get that same officiating staff?
1:18:57
I don't know. if they run Brady they should win and I mean Tommy Condell's used
1:19:02
him in the last few games. But if Toronto gets up and gets a couple
1:19:06
of points on them, will they stick with him?
1:19:08
I
1:19:08
I don't know and I don't have faith in Winnipeg putting together a string
1:19:13
of good games. I mean they've played two very good games
1:19:18
and one fairly good game out of their last three.
1:19:22
I don't know that they can do it again,
1:19:24
so much as it pains me, yeah, I think I'm gonna join the two of you
1:19:28
and and say Argos.
1:19:31
Yeah.
1:19:32
Be better.
1:19:32
Yeah.
1:19:33
Be better, yeah. 'Cause you've got a chance
1:19:34
Neeper.
1:19:35
still you could still get first place.
1:19:36
I mean, you know, it's
1:19:38
Could
1:19:39
yeah. And then the next one, and this is the one that's really got
1:19:43
a lot of implications to this.
1:19:44
If Saskatchewan in B C it's in B C which is gonna make a difference with it.
1:19:49
We've seen the the list of injuries and suspensions,
1:19:54
we've seen who's coming back with it.
1:19:55
Frankly, Saskatchewan wins this one.
1:19:59
Then with four games to go, they're two games up on BC and possibly Winnipeg,
1:20:05
depending on what happens with that game.
1:20:07
Yes, they've got to play some tough teams.
1:20:11
They get Calgary the following week,
1:20:13
which shouldn't be that bad, but then they have Montreal twice and then Edmonton.
1:20:17
But Montreal will, I'm sure,
1:20:21
have wrapped up first place by then.
1:20:23
So how much are they putting into those games in Edmonton?
1:20:27
Well, that should be I'm hoping not just because I'd like to see the riders have
1:20:31
a chance at first place, but because they have played two exceptional games this
1:20:36
year to a draw. they're one and one in wins,
1:20:40
they're sixty-two and sixty-two in points.
1:20:43
I want that last game of the season to mean something.
1:20:45
'Cause that could be fantastic.
1:20:47
So that's there and the path is there.
1:20:50
BC, on the other hand, if they win
1:20:54
They're now tied with Saskatchewan and they do have an easier schedule going ahead.
1:20:58
I'm I looked at it and it's gone out of my head,
1:21:01
but I think the next I think they play Ottawa once,
1:21:04
yet again. And maybe Hamilton.
1:21:06
No, I don't think so. They've had Hamilton twice,
1:21:08
but that last game against Winnipeg is their only tough game.
1:21:11
So they win this one, I think they take second place.
1:21:15
Saskatchewan wins this one, they've got a chance at first place.
1:21:19
So there's nothing on the line.
1:21:22
It's like a game early in the season,
1:21:25
long before Labor Day, it won't matter.
1:21:28
since since I do cheer for the riders,
1:21:30
I'll go first and I'll say BC's got all the momentum going on behind them.
1:21:34
Yes, they've got some suspensions,
1:21:36
but they have been playing b well lately.
1:21:38
Saskatchewan's getting a couple of players back,
1:21:41
but you don't always play well in your first game back.
1:21:45
It takes a while to shake off the rust.
1:21:47
BC has more momentum at this point in the season.
1:21:52
So when I look at all that, I'm gonna take the riders.
1:21:55
'Cause that's what I do, if there's any chance.
1:21:59
Sorry s I you cut out. You're taking the riders?
1:22:01
I'm taking the riders.
1:22:03
Yep. Like I said, if there's any chance I have to Yeah.
1:22:05
Why did I even ask? Why did I even ask?
1:22:08
I have to because if the ro if
1:22:08
That was silly.
1:22:11
I pick the riders and they lose I feel ~ that's not great.
1:22:14
If I pick the riders to lose and they win then I feel like a turncoat.
1:22:17
Okay, how 'bout you, MJ? You get to go second again this time.
1:22:21
think the riders are are gonna be able to keep up with the Lions.
1:22:24
I don't think they're gonna have an at like they they offensively I just
1:22:29
I don't think they're not gonna be able to keep up.
1:22:31
and I am gonna predict that Sean White wins this for the Lions.
1:22:35
entirely
1:22:35
possible
1:22:36
Nice.
1:22:37
as long as they're he's kicking from well who knows maybe sixty
1:22:42
two yards because look what Rennie Paradise just did yeah that's true
1:22:45
Look, if i if Sean White's in range,
1:22:47
he is making that field goal. He is not missing.
1:22:49
if they get if they come down to a field goal
1:22:50
Knock on wood.
1:22:52
to win it and they're inside the forty five forty yeah he's
1:22:59
got it how about you MJ too
1:23:01
this was another hard one for me to decide because I think it could go either way.
1:23:06
But I I don't know, I feel like BC has things going.
1:23:10
They're at home. So I'm gonna go with the Lions on this one.
1:23:15
I have a that
1:23:16
dad's gonna be happy.
1:23:17
That's true.
1:23:18
I
1:23:18
I have a feeling that that the the podcast pick is going to reflect the pick
1:23:23
of the nation. Ryder fans will take Saskatchewan,
1:23:26
everyone else is going to take BC in this one,
1:23:28
I think. Okay. But like I said,
1:23:31
I'm just hoping it's a good game.
1:23:33
Cause they do match up well. And this one
1:23:34
it should be. I think that
1:23:35
Should be.
1:23:37
Frankly, this one could very well come down to coaching.
1:23:41
Because the last few the coaching decisions have been important in them.
1:23:46
And BC's won one, Saskatchewan's won two of them.
1:23:50
So it's not like either coach has an advantage over the other,
1:23:54
but I do think its in-game decisions may make the difference in this.
1:23:57
So that leaves ~ brings us to Calgary goes to Ottawa.
1:24:02
Can Ottawa
1:24:05
Come over the the top with this one after so close in Calgary and there's
1:24:10
so much going on with it. Can they do it one more time?
1:24:14
If they if they do what they did in Calgary in Ottawa,
1:24:16
I think they win. Probably quite easily.
1:24:19
And frankly, even looking ahead at the fantasy,
1:24:23
is MBT a fantasy guy this week?
1:24:25
I don't know. Five touchdowns,
1:24:27
three hundred and nineteen yards.
1:24:28
I don't know what his points were,
1:24:29
but that would have been
1:24:31
And one interception, so you know,
1:24:33
that's up somewhere about over thirty points easily.
1:24:37
Ottawa keeps finding ways to lose.
1:24:40
Okay, I'll
1:24:40
Breakers.
1:24:41
I'll go first. I picked them last week.
1:24:44
I'm gonna pick again. This is it for Ottawa,
1:24:48
he says with fifty one percent confidence.
1:24:53
Well and last week
1:24:53
MJ two, you get to go here.
1:24:55
Yeah, last week I picked the stamps because I just didn't think Ottawa could finish
1:25:00
a game and I for the first time this season am picking Ottawa to win.
1:25:05
I think if they play like they did last game,
1:25:08
if VA's ankle isn't great, they keep getting all these penalties,
1:25:12
they keep making the games hard for themselves,
1:25:14
Ottawa's on the up and up. I'm picking Ottawa.
1:25:18
Can't believe I'm saying that.
1:25:19
Go Ottawa
1:25:19
Yeah. And
1:25:20
MJ.
1:25:21
We're all rooting for you.
1:25:23
We want it so bad.
1:25:25
If Calgary doesn't clean up their special teams,
1:25:28
they're they're gonna be in a whole all game again.
1:25:30
And
1:25:32
I'm not sure you can count on Mac Mahone having another breakout game like that
1:25:36
two weeks in a row. It's hard to win at home at home.
1:25:39
I don't think you're gonna get favorable wind in Ottawa
1:25:43
for your sixty-two-yard field goals.
1:25:45
And I hope I hope Ottawa, I hope McLeod has another great game.
1:25:49
And like those receivers, really,
1:25:51
you're right, MJ. Those receivers are playing for him.
1:25:54
You can tell when receivers want to play the quarterbacks and they
1:25:56
are playing for him. And when they're they're balling
1:26:00
out the defense works even harder I think it's gonna come together for them.
1:26:04
Calgary is gotta be feeling pretty gross a win is a win but that they can't feel
1:26:09
good about it about how they played at all bad on all phases of the game.
1:26:14
yeah I I'm gonna go double or nothing and pick red blacks.
1:26:19
so we're we're all in on the on the red blacks.
1:26:22
Hey. Look at that. Yeah, it Yeah,
1:26:23
Riding the train. Yes. Yes.
1:26:24
Sending out the good vibes Ain't never heart hearts.
1:26:26
exactly. Yes. I mean the special teams won that game
1:26:27
Like let's do it.
1:26:30
for them technically 'cause
1:26:31
it was Paradies that kick the winner,
1:26:33
but yeah they they shanked the punt out of bounds badly.
1:26:36
They were taking all those penalties on it and and that's hard
1:26:39
to believe because they have a
1:26:42
A special teams coach who was hired because he's one of the best in the league.
1:26:46
There was no nepotism involved whatsoever.
1:26:48
And yet the team's doing that.
1:26:50
Hard to believe.
1:26:52
Hmm, hm, ~ Algory, hmm.
1:26:53
well.
1:26:56
Yes mm and then the last one.
1:26:59
yeah.
1:27:00
The the Battle of the Tons Hamilton going into Edmonton.
1:27:04
I'm gonna let the both of you go first since you're Hamilton fans,
1:27:07
but we'll start with MJ. You haven't gone first yet,
1:27:09
so
1:27:10
Alright, unlike you. I know when my team is playing bad.
1:27:15
Yeah.
1:27:15
And I know when they're gonna lose.
1:27:17
And actually I was ~ I'm trying to convince my family that we should
1:27:20
go to this game, but they are like,
1:27:22
Why would you go witness that?
1:27:26
I have no idea who's starting.
1:27:27
Is Frost starting? Is Ford? I was hoping Ford would start back in Edmonton,
1:27:31
and that would be nice if he played well in Edmonton against Edmonton.
1:27:35
And Edmonton's gonna be really choked that they messed up so bad
1:27:39
in Toronto and they're not gonna make the same mistake twice at all.
1:27:44
Hamilton played one quarter of football against Montreal.
1:27:46
I assume the same will happen.
1:27:48
I see no reason for that to change,
1:27:50
so I'm gonna pick the Elks.
1:27:52
Okay, MJ two.
1:27:55
Ditto, I'm going with the Elks.
1:27:57
I want to do like a a poll,
1:28:02
maybe, or like a pool, I guess that's the word on on how many quarterbacks,
1:28:06
how many interceptions for Hamilton.
1:28:09
But no, I I agree. ~ Ti-cats aren't putting anything together and yeah,
1:28:15
I'm sure that the elks are practicing tackles,
1:28:18
they're practicing how to finish things,
1:28:20
they're in the locker room being like,
1:28:22
That will not happen again. And I'm yeah,
1:28:25
hundred percent elks are winning this.
1:28:26
I don't see how they're not.
1:28:28
Yeah. Well, there is a world where Trey Ford comes back like
1:28:34
MJ wants and the team, like I've said last week,
1:28:38
I really believe the team wants him as the quarterback.
1:28:42
So there's
1:28:42
yeah.
1:28:43
a there's a world where they rally behind him and the defense plays
1:28:47
as well as they're capable of and stops making the stupid mistakes on penalties.
1:28:51
And they put in a great game. And there's maybe in that s
1:28:56
few years ago,
1:28:57
yeah.
1:28:57
maybe
1:28:58
in that same world Edmonton struggles after their loss in Toronto and
1:29:03
it hurts the confidence of what is still a y relatively young team.
1:29:07
So yeah, there's a world where Hamilton wins this.
1:29:10
But I don't think we live in that world.
1:29:12
A few years ago th the tables were turned and the Hamilton was in town
1:29:16
and they were up so much. They were just after touchdowns they were just doing
1:29:20
two-point conversions just for practice.
1:29:21
And now
1:29:21
Yeah. Yeah.
1:29:23
now look what's happened.
1:29:25
Could be
1:29:25
the w the worm has turned, yes.
1:29:27
Yeah, I
1:29:27
Yeah.
1:29:29
I don't think I'm gonna pick Hamilton.
1:29:30
I gotta go with Edmonton on here.
1:29:33
Sorry, Hamilton.
1:29:34
Sorry
1:29:34
Yeah. Yes.
1:29:34
Hamilton, we love you.
1:29:36
But still pop ten.
1:29:38
two people here love you
1:29:38
ten in the league?
1:29:39
more than the third even, but Yeah.
1:29:41
Hey, the the silver lining there,
1:29:46
there's I I don't think I said it.
1:29:48
I thought when we were talking Ottawa,
1:29:49
the silver lining of Ottawa losing to a sixty two yard field goal is maybe they
1:29:53
get their first win in front of their home crowd.
1:29:55
Yeah.
1:29:56
Which would be fabulous.
1:29:58
Yeah. So there's that.
1:29:59
The silver lining for Hamilton is apparently Bo is coming back next year,
1:30:03
and they are they are definitely a Grey Cup contending team with him in there.
1:30:08
Cool.
1:30:10
Yeah, so you you'd build take this year to figure out w what else is working
1:30:14
for the team and what isn't and make the improvements to make it even better when
1:30:18
Bo's in there next year.
1:30:20
My thoughts.
1:30:22
And that's about all we've got left is closing thoughts.
1:30:25
So I know that you don't do social media and and people have to put
1:30:29
~ but I do
1:30:31
do you now? my gosh.
1:30:34
Major update. Okay, MJ2, your closing thoughts and
1:30:34
I know. Update.
1:30:37
social media.
1:30:39
Breaking news. I have Instagram.
1:30:43
~ good. Okay.
1:30:45
So I I'm you can follow me at MJ's Plaid Heart and I am posting all kinds of things.
1:30:51
~ shout out to the Canadian under 20 women who just were at the World Cup.
1:30:56
They lost in the quarterfinals,
1:30:58
but they had a great showing. ~ so if you want to talk more about soccer,
1:31:02
football, I was just at the Flames game this weekend.
1:31:06
So all things sports, ~ MJ's plaid heart,
1:31:09
you can find me on Instagram. Yeah,
1:31:11
thanks for having me back. This is this is a lot of fun.
1:31:14
Thank you.
1:31:15
Good stuff. Well you're welcome back all those dates you can make it.
1:31:19
Ha ha ha.
1:31:19
We we won't we won't bother telling the the fans what's been negotiated here 'cause
1:31:24
we don't want to get them disappointed in advance,
1:31:26
but
1:31:27
MJ.
1:31:29
Yeah, ~ if you are
1:31:31
In a city where it's a CFL is being played,
1:31:34
go to the game. It's indigenous week weekend.
1:31:38
the elks are having a huge indigenous market before the game.
1:31:41
So if you get a chance to go, go check it out.
1:31:43
yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be some beautiful I think they're
1:31:47
all using their indigenous logos.
1:31:49
It's gonna be a fantastic weekend football.
1:31:51
you can find me running CFL Outsiders on Instagram and you can find me
1:31:56
on Blue Sky live posting
1:31:59
games, ~ be kind to me during the Tie Cats game over on sport there
1:32:04
at Sports and Plants.
1:32:06
I just realized I was supposed to do something for this week and didn't.
1:32:10
I was gonna look at what's happening with the the Western Women's CFL
1:32:15
and see where they're at and I didn't.
1:32:17
So I'll try and get that in this week.
1:32:18
To in my defense, it's been a busy last few days
1:32:23
for me because I went out and picked up a ball for our little coyote
1:32:28
to chase when we go for walks.
1:32:30
And
1:32:31
A, she doesn't like to play fetch she likes to play keep away,
1:32:34
so I throw it and then there's a struggle to get it back.
1:32:37
But B, we are now going for a lot more walks because about three times
1:32:42
a day she grabs the ball and hops up on the couch beside me and looks
1:32:46
at me like It's time. So yeah,
1:32:49
Cute.
1:32:49
so
1:32:50
so I will try to remember that for next week,
1:32:52
because we should give it some yes,
1:32:54
there she is. There she is.
1:32:56
Frankie
1:32:57
and turn my camera, but coyotes wandered to a different room for this time.
1:33:00
So anyway. like I said, that's that's about it.
1:33:03
You can find me just about anywhere that there's social media look
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1:33:10
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1:33:14
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1:33:17
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1:33:20
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1:33:24
'cause we're ~ I can't speak for the two of you.
1:33:27
I'm just out here babbling doing the release that I have because otherwise
1:33:31
I got nobody to talk to about it.
1:33:33
So I have to sit there and talk to my dog and she doesn't understand.
1:33:36
She says, Yeah, okay, are we going for a walk?
1:33:38
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1:33:56
Strangely enough, even though three games,
1:33:59
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1:34:02
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1:34:07
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