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Mlodzinski Drama and Konnor Griffin to IL · Bucco Territory: A Pittsburgh Pirates Podcast

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Bucco Territory, presented to
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Speaker 2: you by the Foul Territory Network. I'm Delahile sitting in
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Speaker 2: my messy office because I'm moving tomorrow morning, and joining
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Speaker 2: me as always in their clean home, Harrison and Vlatnam
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Speaker 2: p Aka Mark.
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Speaker 1: We're coming to you on a Monday morning.
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Speaker 2: Fresh off of a Pirate sweep over the Minnesota Twins.
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Speaker 1: The Fighting Derek Shelton's came to town and left without
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Speaker 1: a victory.
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Speaker 2: But unfortunately for the Pirates, despite a nice sweep, there's
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Speaker 2: a lot to talk about about on this team and
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Speaker 2: it's kind of negative and I don't want to be
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Speaker 2: the guy who focuses on the negative, but like, this
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Speaker 2: is the news about this team right now, and we'll
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Speaker 2: break it all down. We're gonna start off with the
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Speaker 2: Karmen Majenski drama. It's been impossible to have missed if
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Speaker 2: you follow this team, Connor Griffin to the il another
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Speaker 2: big story, and then we will wrap up our Monday
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Speaker 2: show as always with Platinum.
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Speaker 1: Keys Key of the Week. But guys, yeah, we'll start
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Speaker 1: it off.
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Speaker 2: Carmen Majinski placed on the restricted list Sunday, less than
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Speaker 2: an hour before first pitch, the team announces this move.
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Speaker 2: It comes off of a couple of days earlier the
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Speaker 2: news of Jared Jones taking his spot in the starting rotation.
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Speaker 1: They said Carmen would be moved to the bullpen.
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Speaker 2: Carmen obviously took umbrage with this move, saying, you know,
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Speaker 2: he's happy to have Jared back, but he'll see what
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Speaker 2: this means after he talks it over with his family
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Speaker 2: and his agency. That raised some eyebrows. Some people were
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Speaker 2: very curious to see what was going to happen. The
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Speaker 2: plan was for him to pitch Sunday. I think the
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Speaker 2: team made that pretty clear Sunday Carmen wasn't with the team.
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Speaker 2: So to give a little peek behind the curtain, what
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Speaker 2: I've been told is Carmen is expected to join the
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Speaker 2: team in Houston.
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Speaker 1: They will activate him.
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Speaker 2: They've already option Cam Sanders, the guy who they brought
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Speaker 2: up to pitch one inning because Carmen for some reason
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Speaker 2: couldn't play baseball on Sunday. But uh yeah, and it
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Speaker 2: seems like from the conversations that I had, he informed
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Speaker 2: the Pirates Saturday night that this wasn't happening. At least
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Speaker 2: that's what I've been hearing. I don't know if that's
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent true, but that's that's what I've been
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Speaker 2: kind of told by people within the organization, is that
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Speaker 2: he kind of let them know that he was not
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Speaker 2: in a place.
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Speaker 3: To pitch Cam Sanders was in Pittsburgh and available, so
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Speaker 3: they had some inclination.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, had some inclination. So but yeah, guys, I'll leave
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Speaker 2: it there. I'll let you guys sound off before I
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Speaker 2: issue my own thoughts on the subject.
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Speaker 1: We'll start with Josh, a former player.
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Speaker 4: All Right, we got negative, not negative, Nancy negative, Noah, No,
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Speaker 4: not the first.
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Speaker 5: But these are the These are real things that need
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Speaker 5: to be, you.
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Speaker 4: Know, addressed. And the drama is exactly what it is,
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Speaker 4: is drama. And I take it further than just a
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Speaker 4: Majenski drama because you look at when you know Jared
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Speaker 4: Jones was in al Tuna.
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Speaker 5: You know, I think a lot of this has themmed
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Speaker 5: from a little bit of.
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Speaker 4: I before we with these guys, and there's nothing wrong
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Speaker 4: with that because at the end of the day, you
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Speaker 4: have to be selfish when you're playing this game, because
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Speaker 4: you only get to play this game for you know,
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Speaker 4: as long as you're allowed, and you know you have
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Speaker 4: to be selfish to some degree, but at the same time,
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Speaker 4: there's a time and a place for it. And what
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Speaker 4: you see here the past week and a half have
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Speaker 4: been a couple guys that are you know, more concerned
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Speaker 4: about themselves than the overall picture, and you know, right
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Speaker 4: wrong and different. Everybody's entitled to feel how they feel,
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Speaker 4: but that doesn't always mean you have to express how
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Speaker 4: you feel to the media or to the masses. And
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Speaker 4: that's why I say drama is exactly what it is,
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Speaker 4: is drama. You have one guy that says, you know,
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Speaker 4: mentioned the B word, I'm gonna throw one of those,
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Speaker 4: but I won't be in that, which means he you know,
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Speaker 4: ended up coming up and pushed the guy to that
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Speaker 4: be word that was you know, probably not deserving of it.
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Speaker 4: But at the same time, man, you play this game,
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Speaker 4: you're gonna be in in some situations where you're gonna
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Speaker 4: be the odd man out. You're going to be in
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Speaker 4: some unfortunate situations. And I don't really agree with the
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Speaker 4: publicity of it, but at the end of the day,
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Speaker 4: everybody handles things different. I've said some things public that
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Speaker 4: some people might not have agreed with in my tenure there,
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Speaker 4: but at the same time, I had a much longer tenure.
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Speaker 5: Before I acted this way. Said that, well, I mean.
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Speaker 1: Two times, yeah, there you go, two times.
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Speaker 4: But at the same time, you know, you look at
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Speaker 4: this weekend and to to you know, not pitch.
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Speaker 5: Honestly, I'll be I'll be honest.
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Speaker 4: You know, if a guy's not in the right friend
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Speaker 4: of mine, you don't want him out there pitching. And
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Speaker 4: you know, if you're not gonna option the guy, this
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Speaker 4: is what you're gonna do. Give him, you know, the
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Speaker 4: couple of days of that mental break, give you that reset. Yes,
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Speaker 4: it may not be you know somebody, oh man, this
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Speaker 4: dude is he doesn't deserve this, this or whatever. But
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Speaker 4: you know, if this is a guy that's a key
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Speaker 4: component of your team, and especially a key component of
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Speaker 4: a a bullpen that is black lustery, you know, Majensky
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Speaker 4: kind of has the cards in his hands to say,
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Speaker 4: you know what, I need a couple of days.
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Speaker 5: And as I said, right, wrong and different.
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Speaker 4: Whether you agree with it or not, if this is
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Speaker 4: a guy that they are depending on, they probably felt
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Speaker 4: better to say, you know what, take your day or
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Speaker 4: two to you know, get your thoughts collected, come back
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Speaker 4: to the team and give us what you got and
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Speaker 4: you know, if not, we'll move otherwise, you know, after
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Speaker 4: we recollect. But you don't put the team in a
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Speaker 4: tough spot because nobody wants to be in that clubhouse
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Speaker 4: and say, oh, man, man, what's going on, because everybody
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Speaker 4: knows what's going on. But at the same time, you
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Speaker 4: got to put your pride to the side.
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Speaker 5: Man. It's not like you got optioned down.
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Speaker 4: You still got an opportunity to go out there and
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Speaker 4: help this team win ball games. And I think that's
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Speaker 4: what you see as they're expecting them possibly to be back.
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Speaker 4: But you know, this is drama that this team doesn't need,
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Speaker 4: especially with everything that's going on.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just to build on that, I think Josh
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Speaker 3: makes a really good point that Carmen Machinsky wasn't sent
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Speaker 3: to the bullpen because he was the worst starting pitcher.
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Speaker 3: He was sent to the bullpen because he was the
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Speaker 3: best bullpen option of their starting pitchers. And so I mean,
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Speaker 3: you could take that as a compliment or you could
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Speaker 3: take that as a slight and he took it as
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Speaker 3: a slate. And we saw that with his postgame interview.
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Speaker 3: We kind of knew this was coming. With Jones returning,
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Speaker 3: someone was gonna get screwed over, and it was Carmen,
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Speaker 3: and with him entering arbitration next year. I can't really
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Speaker 3: blame the guy for being selfish. But what I can
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Speaker 3: blame him for is what Josh was saying, is how
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Speaker 3: he went about it. This didn't have to be public.
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Speaker 3: You could have told the pirates like, yeah, I'm not
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Speaker 3: mentally ready to pitch today. If you want to bring
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Speaker 3: someone up, that's great. But it really just adds to
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Speaker 3: the fuel to this fire of this drama of a
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Speaker 3: guy being placed on the restricted list saying I'm not
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Speaker 3: ready to pitch, but I will be in two days.
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Speaker 3: It just yeah, it's concerning, I guess. On a positive note,
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Speaker 3: at least it seems like the issues are resolved and
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Speaker 3: he's going to be back with the team on Tuesday.
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Speaker 3: I mean, at least they've agreed to move forward. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and at least, you know, continue to play baseball, so
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Speaker 3: that's good. But yeah, I mean, it seems like this
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Speaker 3: is might not be a ten like a tenable situation,
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Speaker 3: and Majenski may need to be moved when the time
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Speaker 3: is right and when a deal is found, and maybe
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Speaker 3: that's what was communicated to him was we hear you,
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Speaker 3: We'll make this happen for you, but you just have
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Speaker 3: to allow his time to make this happen in a
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Speaker 3: way where we can where your thoughts know that this
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Speaker 3: is a crazy situation.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, first things first, Carmen emgency is gonna
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Speaker 2: start another game for the Pirates. I mean, or at
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Speaker 2: least he would have if he just moved the bullpen
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Speaker 2: for a little bit.
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Speaker 1: The reality is.
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Speaker 2: They're going to have an injury in that starting rotation.
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Speaker 2: One of those five guys is gonna go down with something.
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Speaker 2: It could be like a blister on their index finger.
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Speaker 2: It could be a hamstring strain, it could be an
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Speaker 2: oblique it could be anything, and they're gonna He's already
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Speaker 2: stretched out. It's the easiest, so he probably was on
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Speaker 2: track to be another starter, or you know, depending on
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Speaker 2: how Jones pitches, he could move.
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Speaker 1: Into the rotation again, or they could go to a
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Speaker 1: six man.
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Speaker 2: There's there were so many different ways this could have
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Speaker 2: been handled, but I think Carmen made it.
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Speaker 1: Easy for the Pirates for a couple of reasons.
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Speaker 2: One because like what Mark said, like he's he is
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Speaker 2: their best reliever option. But in two it's just kind
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Speaker 2: of like, you know what. Now, it's like, dude, read
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Speaker 2: the room. Do you think you're a bigger priority than
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Speaker 2: Paul Schemes. Do you think you're a bigger priority than
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Speaker 2: Mitch Keller or Braxon Ashcraft or Bubba Chandler or Jared Jones?
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Speaker 1: Because you're not. Just you're not.
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Speaker 2: And I'm not being a jerk when I say that,
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Speaker 2: but like real, yes, this team, if it gets to
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Speaker 2: the playoffs, it's gonna need those five guys to be
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Speaker 2: better than karmenmgs. Yeah, so they just have to get
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Speaker 2: those guys right. And Jared Jones coming off of an injury,
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Speaker 2: the best way to get him going is to have
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Speaker 2: a scheduled work this and when you're when, when you're
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Speaker 2: a starter, you know when you're gonna pinch. So that
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Speaker 2: makes sense. Bubba Chandler, We've discussed this a ton. He's
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Speaker 2: not gonna get any better if you put him in
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Speaker 2: the bullpen right now, or yeah, he's not gonna make
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Speaker 2: the bullpen better either. It's gonna hurt both things. Carmen
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Speaker 2: will be their best right handed believer or at worse
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Speaker 2: their second, depending on how much you love Wilbert Hotel.
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Speaker 2: Right now, my big takeaway from all of this, though, is,
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Speaker 2: and I hate to say this, because Carmen has been
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Speaker 2: very good to me, Like I've never had a bad
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Speaker 2: interaction with him in my three years covering him. But
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Speaker 2: Carmen has kind of had this reputation where he's been
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Speaker 2: a pain to work with at times. I mean, if
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Speaker 2: you talk to a lot of people in that organization,
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Speaker 2: it's they say good things about him. But he's always
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Speaker 2: been known to be stubborn. And you can go read
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Speaker 2: stories from people who've covered him longer than me, or
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Speaker 2: go talk to people who've been around the team longer
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Speaker 2: than me.
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Speaker 1: You know, he's just.
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Speaker 2: Kind of always been like this, and this was an
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Speaker 2: opportunity to show that he's grown up a little bit.
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Speaker 2: And I wrote this in a column that's going to
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Speaker 2: run Monday morning in the Post Gazette. The guys who
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Speaker 2: are easy to work with things are uncomfortable when things
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Speaker 2: aren't going according to plan. They tend to stick around
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Speaker 2: in this game a little bit longer than the ones
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Speaker 2: who don't. Now, if you're a superstar, you get to act.
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Speaker 1: However, the hell you want.
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Speaker 2: That's just the reality of life that applies to pretty
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Speaker 2: much every workforce that from the top of the food
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Speaker 2: chain all the way down to the bottom. If you're
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Speaker 2: one of the best at what you do, you get
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Speaker 2: a longer leash. But Karma Macginsky, I mean, he's solid,
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Speaker 2: but he's not one of the best pictures in the planet,
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Speaker 2: especially in this organization. So you don't have that luxury.
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Speaker 2: So you can act like this and that's fine, and
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Speaker 2: you might get what you want. It might not look
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Speaker 2: exactly how you pictured it, but you're not This isn't
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Speaker 2: the only team who knows that he can be a
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Speaker 2: pain in the assy.
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Speaker 1: Word spreads around baseball very quickly.
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Speaker 3: It's pretty public too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now by doing it now it's public. This
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Speaker 2: was a big story, and this is going to be
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Speaker 2: talked about. This went viral. I mean, is his clip
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Speaker 2: Thursday after the game went viral and this was this
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Speaker 2: was the Pirates won. The Pirates scored like twenty seven
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Speaker 2: runs this weekend. No one's talking about that because.
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Speaker 1: They're talking about this.
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Speaker 2: And now any team that's looking to trade him, they're
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Speaker 2: trade for him, knows that they're gonna have to deal
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Speaker 2: with this yeah, and they also know that they don't
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Speaker 2: have to pay full value.
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Speaker 6: For him exactly.
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Speaker 3: He just made the pirates trading him that much better.
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Speaker 2: With all, he's made this all so much worse for himself,
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Speaker 2: and he's gonna have to live with this label. And
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Speaker 2: that's what sucks, is because this guy is a good
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Speaker 2: pitcher and I do think I don't think he's a
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Speaker 2: horrible teammate. I haven't heard his teammates say anything bad
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Speaker 2: about him. But at the same time, it's it's like,
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Speaker 2: when you do this kind of stuff, you get this label,
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Speaker 2: and this is when it becomes you know, five years
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Speaker 2: down the road, if it's between you and someone else,
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Speaker 2: this could be a difference maker on if you get
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Speaker 2: to stay in the league. And that's not a problem
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Speaker 2: Karen Magensky has to worry about right now. But that
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Speaker 2: stuff ends careers earlier than it should. And Josh, I'm
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Speaker 2: sure will agree wholeheartedly because he was on the other
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Speaker 2: end of that.
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Speaker 4: Unless he comes back and he becomes one of the
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Speaker 4: best pictures in the plant. Yeah, you know, but but
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Speaker 4: as you said, you know, there's a time and a
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Speaker 4: place for everything, and I just agree with you that
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Speaker 4: you know, he's definitely warranted to feel how he feels,
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Speaker 4: because nobody should tell anybody how the should feel in
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Speaker 4: a certain situation. But as you said, read the room,
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Speaker 4: you know, is this the right time to make it public?
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Speaker 4: You know, say what you need to say behind closed doors.
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Speaker 4: But uh, you know in certain moments, you know, especially
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Speaker 4: as you said, like he it's not like he's been
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Speaker 4: a starter for the past three or four years. You know,
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Speaker 4: I think that would be different. But it's like you've
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Speaker 4: always wanted the opportunity to start. You have shown that
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Speaker 4: you can start this year. But at the same time,
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Speaker 4: this is a different Pirates team than the past. You
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Speaker 4: guys are actually in a position to go, you know,
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Speaker 4: compete and are looking to play post season baseball. Not
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Speaker 4: saying that it's going to happen, but if that is
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Speaker 4: what you guys are really going for, Sometimes you got
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Speaker 4: to put that personal stuff aside because that stuff will
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Speaker 4: only come back to you ten times more, you know,
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Speaker 4: when you're on the winning team, because guess what, when
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Speaker 4: you're on the winning team, Man, this dude wins, Let's
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Speaker 4: let's sign this guy, you know what I mean. So
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Speaker 4: if the Pirates win, teams win, everybody that's on the
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Speaker 4: winning team, you're gonna get an extra look.
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Speaker 5: Just because.
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Speaker 4: Something you contributed to that clubhouse, something you contributed to
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Speaker 4: that team, And you know, if the team doesn't win
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Speaker 4: and you make these comments and you haven't, it's like, Okay,
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Speaker 4: this might not be a guy that is going to
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Speaker 4: last long because you know, guys that are only out
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Speaker 4: for themselves literally don't last as long.
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Speaker 3: You pay an agent a lot of money to do
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Speaker 3: this for you, just let them do it. You know
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Speaker 3: it's not that good agency too.
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Speaker 2: You have a very good agency who has handled this
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Speaker 2: stuff before and probably should have just let them handle it.
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Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna take a quick break.
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Speaker 2: When we come back, we're gonna talk about a guy
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Speaker 2: who has said all the right things throughout his career,
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Speaker 2: but unfortunately he's on the eye.
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Speaker 5: Heell.
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Speaker 2: All Right, Connor Griffin heads to the ten day injured
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Speaker 2: list with a strain and a flexer in his right forearm.
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Speaker 2: It's a minor injury, the pirates said, and they're hopeful
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Speaker 2: it will be a minimum minimal stay on the injured list.
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Speaker 2: There's a quote from bet and Sharing Things says nothing's
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Speaker 2: changed in the diagnosis is a minor flex or mass strain.
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Speaker 2: He's made significant progress since this came up last week.
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Speaker 2: Connor did a little bit of throwing before Sunday's game.
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Speaker 1: Didn't feel right.
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Speaker 2: So he will be on the shelf for the On
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Speaker 2: the I L I'll start off by just saying this,
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Speaker 2: I mean one, Connor had a really good weekend at
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Speaker 2: the point as their dheah. It's almost like, man, if
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Speaker 2: only they could just keep him at DH, but you
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Speaker 2: know that certain move just keeps fighting them in the ass.
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Speaker 2: But now with this, I mean, and I said this
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Speaker 2: on our last show, we still don't know the severity
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Speaker 2: of this, and it does no good to speculate.
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Speaker 1: But anytime you hear that your short stops having you's
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Speaker 1: during a baseball it's scary.
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Speaker 2: Especially this guy, because considering the position he plays and
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Speaker 2: the value that he provides and how good he has
18:09
Speaker 2: looked over this last month, you could argue Connor as
18:13
Speaker 2: top three most valuable players on this team, and you
18:17
Speaker 2: are never in a good position to lose that guy.
18:21
Speaker 2: And then you think long term, and again this you
18:24
Speaker 2: don't want to speculate, but like with the type of
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Speaker 2: injury that we're talking about.
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Speaker 1: There's a chance this could be something serious, and.
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Speaker 2: If it is, that's scary for the Pirates long term,
18:34
Speaker 2: because I mean this is there is no player more
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Speaker 2: important for long term for the Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 1: Pirates than this guy.
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Speaker 2: He is their highest biggest investment that they've ever made,
18:45
Speaker 2: and he's twenty years old. He's the face in the
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Speaker 2: future of the franchise. They need this guy to be
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Speaker 2: right at all times, and for him to be going
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Speaker 2: through an injury like this this early in his career
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Speaker 2: is scary.
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Speaker 1: So you know it's not good. Mark all that you
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Speaker 1: weigh in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying not to hit the panic button on
19:06
Speaker 3: this one. It definitely helped, uh stomach it the news
19:11
Speaker 3: with getting Ohearn back as the corresponding move at least,
19:16
Speaker 3: you know, like I was like, all right, we lose
19:18
Speaker 3: a guy who's playing All Star caliber and add one
19:21
Speaker 3: back who was playing all Star caliber, So that that
19:25
Speaker 3: was nice at least for a positive on this. But
19:28
Speaker 3: outside of that, I mean it, it does not make
19:31
Speaker 3: you feel good as a fan. I just hearing like
19:35
Speaker 3: I was at P and C today and the rumblings
19:38
Speaker 3: around when that happened was just like, oh no, and
19:43
Speaker 3: just the thickest the insurer accents you ever hear, like,
19:45
Speaker 3: oh no, we can't be happening to encounter and that's
19:48
Speaker 3: just I cannot do the insura accent. I cannot do
19:51
Speaker 3: it our culture. Yeah no, no, it's a it's a
19:55
Speaker 3: little obvious. I spent one year there only, and yeah,
19:58
Speaker 3: it did not impact my lexicon too much. But I
20:02
Speaker 3: always love what I do here, and yeah, the conversations
20:05
Speaker 3: were you know, concerning because this is the face of
20:09
Speaker 3: the franchise pretty much moving forward. Obviously schemes right now.
20:13
Speaker 3: But yeah, this is just it's bad and hopefully it
20:18
Speaker 3: is a very quick trip and that's serious. But again,
20:22
Speaker 3: like you were saying, Noah, this is an injury that
20:26
Speaker 3: we saw it with like Jared Jones when he was
20:29
Speaker 3: going through his forearm tightness, where you know, it was
20:32
Speaker 3: just a slow progression. So hopefully it stops. We see
20:35
Speaker 3: counter back throwing the ball without you know, any issues.
20:39
Speaker 3: But if not, he did look really good at DHU,
20:42
Speaker 3: so at least maybe we can get his back into
20:44
Speaker 3: lineup that way if he once he's back from the
20:46
Speaker 3: ten dail.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously not anything that anybody wants to see, especially
20:55
Speaker 4: as a Pittsburgh Pirates fan or you know, supporter or
20:58
Speaker 4: even player. You know, we we had this conversation I
21:02
Speaker 4: think when we first caught win of it, of you know,
21:05
Speaker 4: I think it was you Mark to said, you know,
21:07
Speaker 4: I mean he's very valuable. They couldn't even wait seven
21:10
Speaker 4: games before they needed to you know, bring him up
21:12
Speaker 4: to say we need him, you know, defensively, So right there,
21:15
Speaker 4: you know that that is a big part of it.
21:18
Speaker 4: If if you know there's some forum tightness. I mean,
21:21
Speaker 4: his defense is a big part of why he's up there,
21:23
Speaker 4: not the you know, mention his whole game, but you
21:26
Speaker 4: know that that is a big loss, especially when defense
21:31
Speaker 4: is you know, one of the weaker you know, aspects
21:34
Speaker 4: of this team and especially one of the most important
21:37
Speaker 4: positions shortstop right in the middle of the field. You know,
21:41
Speaker 4: hopefully it's not too long. But but as you said,
21:43
Speaker 4: anytime you see form tightness, you always kind of, you know,
21:47
Speaker 4: you just you know, you kind of keep your fingers
21:49
Speaker 4: crossed because you know there's been cases where it's turned
21:52
Speaker 4: out to be nothing, in cases where you know somebody.
21:54
Speaker 5: Thought it was nothing, is you know a little more
21:56
Speaker 5: than something.
21:57
Speaker 4: But you know these are all things why you know
22:00
Speaker 4: they got the training staff and he's able to hit.
22:02
Speaker 4: You know that obviously doesn't cause him any discomfort, but
22:06
Speaker 4: you know, maybe rest and you know, who knows. But
22:10
Speaker 4: it's one of those things where as we mentioned last week,
22:13
Speaker 4: you know, yes O'Hearn came back, but you know, before
22:17
Speaker 4: we were talking with if they were on at the
22:18
Speaker 4: same time, you know, just saying how the injury bug
22:21
Speaker 4: or just kind of these you know, little nagging things
22:23
Speaker 4: are starting to pop up, you know, and it's one
22:27
Speaker 4: of those things where every team expects it to but
22:29
Speaker 4: you know when when it's key players, and especially a
22:32
Speaker 4: guy who was you know, you could see starting to
22:35
Speaker 4: get into his groove and you know, catch a stride,
22:37
Speaker 4: you know, takes a little bit of time.
22:39
Speaker 5: At twenty year old, that was you know, starting to
22:42
Speaker 5: get comfortable.
22:42
Speaker 4: You know, it's unfortunate that he's got to take a
22:44
Speaker 4: little bit of time off, but hopefully it's only a
22:46
Speaker 4: little bit of time off. But you know, as you said,
22:49
Speaker 4: O'Hearn came in and stepped in today. But it's one
22:52
Speaker 4: of those things where they are going to make sure
22:55
Speaker 4: that he is good to go. I don't think this
22:57
Speaker 4: is anything that they're gonna want to play with because
22:59
Speaker 4: as you mentioned, he's such a vital part of right
23:02
Speaker 4: now in the future, so you don't want you know,
23:04
Speaker 4: all men go out there and play short and he
23:07
Speaker 4: you know, does something like, oh man, if he would
23:09
Speaker 4: have just taken another week.
23:11
Speaker 5: So I know they're going to take.
23:13
Speaker 4: Every precaution and hopefully it's for the best and that
23:16
Speaker 4: we see him back in the lineup soon, you know,
23:17
Speaker 4: helping the Black and Go win games.
23:19
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I would argue that Connor Griffin is their
23:25
Speaker 2: most important position player on this team. He's not their best.
23:28
Speaker 2: Brandon Low is their best by far. Yes, I mean
23:30
Speaker 2: he's worth but important.
23:33
Speaker 1: Like if Loo goes down, you have.
23:35
Speaker 2: Other people who can play second base, right, and like
23:38
Speaker 2: you can reconfigure the lineup where I mean your defense
23:42
Speaker 2: would stink, but you can move Spencer to second, or
23:45
Speaker 2: you can move Nick over the second and you could
23:47
Speaker 2: have Tree at third and then at least you have
23:49
Speaker 2: good defense at third base. Like there's there's alternatives to
23:53
Speaker 2: that lineup or Connor. I mean, Karl is going to play,
24:00
Speaker 2: and I mean this guy has already been injured once
24:03
Speaker 2: this year and he's just like shortstop is the worst
24:07
Speaker 2: version of your triolo.
24:08
Speaker 1: Yeah that you're gonna get.
24:10
Speaker 2: So, I mean it's better than nothing, I guess, but
24:12
Speaker 2: there's just so thin at this position. He's been so
24:15
Speaker 2: good one point six b war and fifty one games.
24:20
Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're trending, like, yeah, you're trending to
24:23
Speaker 2: be a four and a half to five win player
24:26
Speaker 2: as a twenty year old rookie.
24:28
Speaker 1: So Yeah, he's been really good. There's not a lot
24:32
Speaker 1: of depth there.
24:33
Speaker 2: He does so many things so well for them, and
24:36
Speaker 2: he was trending to be even better. So that's a
24:39
Speaker 2: big loss, even if it is just for ten days.
24:42
Speaker 2: I mean that ten days stretch includes three games in Houston,
24:46
Speaker 2: three games three games in Atlanta, and then three games.
24:50
Speaker 1: Against the Dodgers.
24:51
Speaker 2: So those are the two best teams in the National League,
24:55
Speaker 2: and Houston has never been an easy place for anyone
24:58
Speaker 2: to with baseball games. So yeah, uh, you know, Connor
25:04
Speaker 2: obviously friend of the show. He's been really good to
25:07
Speaker 2: us by giving us his time, so we all wish
25:09
Speaker 2: him well in a speedy rule, yes sir, Yeah, all right,
25:13
Speaker 2: we'll move on now, Mark Platinum Key of the week,
25:17
Speaker 2: what do you got for us?
25:18
Speaker 5: Brings home?
25:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, So rounding out the show, kind of circling back
25:22
Speaker 3: to where we started with Majinski. My key of the
25:24
Speaker 3: week this week is going to be I want to
25:26
Speaker 3: see Bubba Chandler and Jared Jones come out and show
25:29
Speaker 3: why they are these starters that the Pirates stuck with. Uh.
25:33
Speaker 3: They are both starting against the Astros. They we get
25:37
Speaker 3: Bubba Tuesday, Skiings Wednesday Jones Thursday. Uh so I really
25:43
Speaker 3: would love to see just some gems of those two guys.
25:47
Speaker 3: And geez, if we get a gem out of Bubba
25:49
Speaker 3: Chandler and Jared Jones, this could be a sweep of
25:52
Speaker 3: a Houston team that is not as good as they've
25:55
Speaker 3: been in years past. Yes, so we we could really
26:01
Speaker 3: if those guys step up. I think that's the biggest
26:04
Speaker 3: key of the week, especially in the face of all
26:07
Speaker 3: of this carmeon emergency drama, make all the fans forget
26:11
Speaker 3: that this happened and just completely shift the narrative back
26:14
Speaker 3: to how crazy good is this homegrown rotation? So yeah,
26:20
Speaker 3: that's my key of the week is just step up
26:23
Speaker 3: big time, Bubba and Jared after a tougher week for
26:27
Speaker 3: them this past week, and really show why you are
26:30
Speaker 3: the face of this starting rotation moving forward.
26:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I mean they need to do that,
26:37
Speaker 1: like I mean one like Bubba's just.
26:39
Speaker 2: Got to get going, Yeah, he knows that. And then
26:44
Speaker 2: uh and maybe some home some home cooking. They're going
26:47
Speaker 2: to be in his home state this week, so ye
26:49
Speaker 2: go see mom and Papa Chandler get get a good
26:51
Speaker 2: home cooked meal.
26:52
Speaker 1: They'll get them. He'll get himself right, So yeah, and
26:55
Speaker 1: then yeah.
26:55
Speaker 2: With Jared, I mean, Jared, Jared's gotta let you know, can't,
27:00
Speaker 2: can't let that last start fester.
27:02
Speaker 3: He just needs That's the first one out of the way.
27:04
Speaker 3: That's all you needs.
27:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, yeah, I don't think it's a bad kid
27:10
Speaker 4: A week for sure, as you said, put the drama
27:12
Speaker 4: behind him, and not necessarily I mean, and he's expected
27:17
Speaker 4: to join the team Tuesday, possibly too, So what better
27:21
Speaker 4: way would it be for those guys to shove and
27:23
Speaker 4: then he come in and.
27:25
Speaker 3: You know, so you know, yeah, just a nice like
27:27
Speaker 3: two picture outing, you know, like five innings Bubba, four
27:31
Speaker 3: innings Carmen and close it down with the win.
27:33
Speaker 5: Yeah. So but yeah, I like that a week go ahead.
27:38
Speaker 2: Not not to cut you off, no, I was just
27:40
Speaker 2: gonna say, and like for Carmen, it's just like the
27:42
Speaker 2: best thing they can do is just make make the
27:44
Speaker 2: Pirates look stupid. Go out there and just absolutely shove,
27:49
Speaker 2: like say, say Bubba or Jared doesn't like they don't
27:52
Speaker 2: pitch well, like they only cover like three innings. Go
27:55
Speaker 2: in there and be like I'll get the rest of
27:56
Speaker 2: the six because I'm I'm a guy who actually can
27:59
Speaker 2: do this.
28:00
Speaker 4: You know that.
28:00
Speaker 1: That's how that's how you do it.
28:02
Speaker 2: You don't do it calling people out in the media.
28:05
Speaker 2: You just you just shut them up with your play.
28:08
Speaker 2: Make yourself undeniable. And if you did that as a
28:11
Speaker 2: starter the first time, if you were that much better
28:14
Speaker 2: than Bubba Chandler or Braxton Ashcraft or Mitch Keller, probably
28:19
Speaker 2: were never gonna get picked. But still that's how that's
28:24
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28:28
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28:32
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Speaker 1: I hate it. I can't stand it. Yeah, No, that's
30:01
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30:04
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Speaker 2: Knicks, Yeah Nick, Yeah, nobody eat French fries. Nobody eat
30:13
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Speaker 3: French don't riverwalk yet.
30:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, any anybody over seven foot six is dead to me.
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Speaker 1: So that's that's the rule. That's what we're going with.
30:27
Speaker 1: Go Nicks.
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Speaker 6: Mark.
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Speaker 3: My final thought just shout out to Braxton Ashcraft man.
30:35
Speaker 3: I saw him pitch today in person. Eighty pitches, eleven strikeout,
30:39
Speaker 3: six innings. Guy is a So just want to end
30:43
Speaker 3: on that a little positive note on this pitching seth,
30:47
Speaker 3: He's been awesome, so all right.
30:50
Speaker 2: For Platinum Key aka Mark and j Hey aka Josh Harrison,
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