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- 0:00Speaker 1: Our article today is from Courthousenews dot com and the
- 0:06Speaker 1: headline is pandemic won't slow fight over sealed Jeffrey Epstein documents. Well,
- 0:12Speaker 1: that's good. I'm glad to hear that. You know, I
- 0:14Speaker 1: know that we're in the middle of the pandemic, and
- 0:16Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely a tough time for a lot
- 0:19Speaker 1: of people, but we have to keep some semblance of
- 0:23Speaker 1: the rule of law going right. We have to make
- 0:25Speaker 1: sure that the courts don't get backed up, and we
- 0:27Speaker 1: have to make sure that they're processing as many cases
- 0:30Speaker 1: as they possibly can. So it's good to know that
- 0:34Speaker 1: the pandemic isn't going to slow the fight over the
- 0:37Speaker 1: sealed documents in the Epstein case, because it's crucial that
- 0:41Speaker 1: those documents are published for the public to see. It's
- 0:44Speaker 1: very crucial that that ends up happening, because there's already
- 0:50Speaker 1: the air of secrecy around this whole entire thing. The
- 0:53Speaker 1: whole entire shroud has been thrown over this case from
- 0:56Speaker 1: the beginning. And if they keep on doing it, and
- 0:59Speaker 1: they keep on keeping things in the shadows and away
- 1:02Speaker 1: from the public, all they're going to do is foster
- 1:06Speaker 1: more resentment and foster more mistrust in them being the
- 1:10Speaker 1: Justice Department, because this is not the case the kind
- 1:14Speaker 1: of case where you can hold stuff back and say it's,
- 1:16Speaker 1: you know, national security. There's no national security implications here, unless,
- 1:21Speaker 1: of course, the CIA gets outed as being involved, then
- 1:25Speaker 1: I guess that could be sort of a problem. But
- 1:27Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that's not for the
- 1:29Speaker 1: courts to decide. The courts need to just go after
- 1:32Speaker 1: whatever whatever's on their plate, right and they can't worry
- 1:35Speaker 1: about all that other crap. So it's good to see
- 1:38Speaker 1: that the courts are still processing this case right now
- 1:41Speaker 1: throughout this pandemic, and it's going to be interesting to
- 1:44Speaker 1: see how this all ends up. This article was written
- 1:48Speaker 1: by Adam Klassfeld, the federal judge who holds the key
- 1:52Speaker 1: to secret records concerning the late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein refuse
- 1:56Speaker 1: Tuesday afternoon to approve a month long delay in the case. Well,
- 2:01Speaker 1: what would a month long delay do anyway? I mean,
- 2:03Speaker 1: in about a month, another couple of weeks, three weeks,
- 2:06Speaker 1: the pandemic will be peaking. But even after it peaks,
- 2:10Speaker 1: well supposedly going to peak. After it peaks, there's still
- 2:13Speaker 1: going to be ripple effects being felt throughout not only
- 2:17Speaker 1: the nation, but you know, the court system, et cetera,
- 2:19Speaker 1: et cetera. So I don't know what a month long
- 2:21Speaker 1: delay would have even accomplished. Seems to me like it's
- 2:24Speaker 1: more dragging of the feet by the defense. Seems to
- 2:28Speaker 1: me like it's more, let's try and pause this as
- 2:30Speaker 1: long as possible, and we'll try and you know, avoid
- 2:33Speaker 1: the inevitable for as long as we can. Attorneys for
- 2:38Speaker 1: people named in the secret batch of files sought the
- 2:40Speaker 1: reprieve to extend how long they have to raise objections
- 2:43Speaker 1: about public scrutiny after first receiving notice about their involvement.
- 2:49Speaker 1: So because of the pandemic, they'll use that as an
- 2:51Speaker 1: excuse and they'll try and you know, use that as
- 2:53Speaker 1: a way to navigate through this minefield. And we see
- 2:58Speaker 1: it all the time and from the these kind of people,
- 3:00Speaker 1: from people like Epstein, the way that they jump through loopholes,
- 3:04Speaker 1: the way that they avoid certain things within the justice
- 3:07Speaker 1: system because they have high profile lawyers who know the
- 3:10Speaker 1: tricks of the trade. And we see it on a
- 3:13Speaker 1: regular basis, them trying to drag their feet and trying
- 3:16Speaker 1: to make it a drawn out process. At this point,
- 3:21Speaker 1: fourteen days is certainly adequate. US District Judge Loretta Presca
- 3:25Speaker 1: told an attorney for one of those anonymous men during
- 3:28Speaker 1: a phone conference, referring to the length of time needed
- 3:31Speaker 1: to respond to a notification, I mean, you need more
- 3:35Speaker 1: than fourteen days to respond. Fourteen days should be plenty
- 3:38Speaker 1: of time for you to get with your high profile
- 3:40Speaker 1: lawyers and figure out a way to lie. Why do
- 3:43Speaker 1: you need more than fourteen days, mister anonymous man? And boy,
- 3:48Speaker 1: we go all day thinking about who the anonymous man is, right,
- 3:52Speaker 1: there got to be several of them, definitely several of them.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Maybe we'll talk about that at some point. Maybe we'll
- 3:57Speaker 1: do like a speculative episode where we discuss who the
- 4:00Speaker 1: anonymous men could be, who are trying so hard to
- 4:04Speaker 1: drag their feet here and trying so hard to delay
- 4:06Speaker 1: the case. Like many US court proceedings during the coronavirus crisis,
- 4:13Speaker 1: today's hearing took place in the form of a telephone conference.
- 4:16Speaker 1: As proceedings began, the former chief judge for the Southern
- 4:19Speaker 1: District of New York quipped that many have been boosting
- 4:22Speaker 1: their vitamin C reserves with quarantinas. I don't even know
- 4:26Speaker 1: what that means, and why is she quipping anyway? Stick
- 4:28Speaker 1: to the stick to the case, Judge Prescin, You're not
- 4:31Speaker 1: there to be a comedian. Nobody finds you funny. Do
- 4:34Speaker 1: the right thing and unseal these documents. Save your your
- 4:37Speaker 1: comedic act for the night crew. The second Circuit put
- 4:42Speaker 1: Presca at the cases Helm last July, long before the
- 4:45Speaker 1: novel virus COVID nineteen first erupted in China, spawning a
- 4:50Speaker 1: global pandemic and national emergency. Her task is to review
- 4:55Speaker 1: and potentially unseal files from a lawsuit that Epstein accuser
- 4:58Speaker 1: Virginia Roberts brought against the now deceased Pedophiles ex associate
- 5:04Speaker 1: Gilayne Maxwell ex associates better than madam I guess, or
- 5:07Speaker 1: better than socialite. But I'll take it a step further.
- 5:10Speaker 1: His co conspirator. That's what Gilayne Maxwell is, folks. She's
- 5:14Speaker 1: a co conspirator. She was just as involved in Jeffrey Epstein.
- 5:18Speaker 1: She was just as involved. She might not have been
- 5:21Speaker 1: abusing all of the girls, but she was involved in
- 5:23Speaker 1: some of the abuse. She was certainly involved in the planning.
- 5:27Speaker 1: She was certainly involved in the logistics. She was certainly
- 5:29Speaker 1: involved in the grooming, so co conspirator is the proper
- 5:34Speaker 1: title to slap on Gilayne Maxwell in my opinion, Well,
- 5:39Speaker 1: that and also when she gets her prisoner number, when
- 5:42Speaker 1: she originally eventually gets arrested, that'll be great. We could
- 5:45Speaker 1: just identify her by that number. Then you want to
- 5:47Speaker 1: talk about the biggest slap in the face. If Maxwell
- 5:50Speaker 1: ever gets arrested, and she ever goes to jail for this,
- 5:53Speaker 1: we will refer to her by her prison identification on
- 5:56Speaker 1: this podcast, not by her name. Disclosure could prove limited.
- 6:02Speaker 1: In January, PRESCA ruled that only records that form the
- 6:06Speaker 1: basis of court rulings in roberts Old lawsuit against Maxwell
- 6:10Speaker 1: would be entitled to the presumption of public access. She emphasized, however,
- 6:15Speaker 1: that her ruling would not end the case. See this
- 6:18Speaker 1: is what's going on with PRESCA here. She's trying to
- 6:22Speaker 1: tow the line on both sides. She should just release
- 6:25Speaker 1: all of this, all of these documents, be done with it,
- 6:28Speaker 1: and move on with her life. But instead she says, well,
- 6:32Speaker 1: you know, they're not all entitled to the presumption of
- 6:34Speaker 1: public access. But this ruling, this doesn't end the case.
- 6:38Speaker 1: So what she does is she leaves the door open
- 6:40Speaker 1: for what reason. I don't know. I'm not a lawyer
- 6:42Speaker 1: or a judge or anything like that, so I don't
- 6:45Speaker 1: know the motivation behind something like this, but I think
- 6:47Speaker 1: it's a bunch of bs, if you want my opinion
- 6:49Speaker 1: on it. I think that Judge Presca should just come
- 6:52Speaker 1: out swinging and release these documents because there's no reason
- 6:57Speaker 1: not to release them. All right, who are you protect
- 7:00Speaker 1: and why? Why are the rich and the powerful always
- 7:03Speaker 1: protected by the justice system. The court is mindful of
- 7:09Speaker 1: the fact that there is a great deal of public
- 7:11Speaker 1: intrigues surrounding the unseiling of the documents at issue here,
- 7:14Speaker 1: Presco wrote with that in mind, this court emphasizes that
- 7:18Speaker 1: this ruling is a narrow one, and that's definitely a
- 7:22Speaker 1: good thing. That's an opening in the case for these
- 7:25Speaker 1: documents to be released. And she had said that previously, right,
- 7:29Speaker 1: that it's not ending the case. It's you know, just
- 7:33Speaker 1: it just emphasizes that the ruling is a narrow one,
- 7:37Speaker 1: so it's up to interpretation and her mind can be changed,
- 7:41Speaker 1: is what that means. Much of the public's interest in
- 7:44Speaker 1: Epstein's case stems from the investigative journalism of the Miami
- 7:48Speaker 1: Herald and its reporter Julie Brown, whose series Perversion of
- 7:52Speaker 1: Justice spurred the resignation of Trump's former Secretary of Labor,
- 7:56Speaker 1: Alexandra Acosta. Let's not get carried away, Okay. I think
- 7:59Speaker 1: Julie Julie Brown's work was what initiated the whole reinvestigation.
- 8:05Speaker 1: But I think that there was people that were very
- 8:09Speaker 1: interested in this case even before that. Now, they might
- 8:12Speaker 1: not have had the resources of Julie Brown. And Julie
- 8:15Speaker 1: Brown was the one who certainly kicked in the door.
- 8:17Speaker 1: There were a bunch of people who were still covering
- 8:20Speaker 1: this case. I mean from the beginning. There are people
- 8:22Speaker 1: that have been covering this case since, you know, two
- 8:24Speaker 1: thousand and seven. So I think that I think that
- 8:30Speaker 1: Julie Brown is certainly the one who got the door
- 8:33Speaker 1: kicked in for this second time around. She deserves all
- 8:35Speaker 1: the credit in the world. Her reporting was fantastic, The
- 8:38Speaker 1: reporting of the Miami Herald was fantastic, and the way
- 8:42Speaker 1: that she doggedly went after the case is just just awesome.
- 8:46Speaker 1: And she deserves a lot of a lot of credit
- 8:48Speaker 1: for that because without her hard work, you know, the
- 8:51Speaker 1: second time around, there had been zero chants that this
- 8:53Speaker 1: case would have been reopened zero chance. So it's nice
- 8:57Speaker 1: to see that Julie K. Brown is is charged so
- 9:02Speaker 1: hard against this against these people, and took this case
- 9:05Speaker 1: as seriously as she did and saw it through to
- 9:09Speaker 1: an outcome such as Jeffrey Epstein getting arrested. It's pretty
- 9:12Speaker 1: awesome work and she should be commended for it. But
- 9:14Speaker 1: there are other people who have been researching this case
- 9:17Speaker 1: for a very long time as well. They just don't
- 9:19Speaker 1: have the stature of Julie K. Brown. The papers reporting
- 9:24Speaker 1: also reanimated civil litigation from the convicted pedophiles survivors and
- 9:30Speaker 1: has been credited for Epstein's federal sex trafficking indictment, whose
- 9:34Speaker 1: investigation has outlived it's key defendant. Yeah, hey, look like
- 9:38Speaker 1: I just said. She definitely deserves all the credit in
- 9:40Speaker 1: the world for that. Julie K. Brown's a hero in
- 9:42Speaker 1: this story, and her investigation into this case should win
- 9:48Speaker 1: awards because she really did the job of fifteen investigative
- 9:53Speaker 1: journalists and she was dealing with some very dangerous people
- 9:56Speaker 1: and she was never deterred. She just kept going and
- 9:59Speaker 1: kept pounding and kept grinding, And that's exactly the sort
- 10:03Speaker 1: of thing you need to do if you're going to
- 10:05Speaker 1: chase down people like Jeffrey Epstein. A little more than
- 10:09Speaker 1: an hour before today's telephone conference, the Herald signaled it
- 10:12Speaker 1: would remain a thorn in the side of Epstein's associates
- 10:15Speaker 1: in a memo giving Maxwell's legal team a lesson in
- 10:17Speaker 1: press freedom. Miss Maxwell's attack on The Herald and Brown's
- 10:21Speaker 1: reporting on this case of significant public interest is wholly unwarranted,
- 10:26Speaker 1: and her positions demonstrate her interest and continues to hide
- 10:31Speaker 1: from public scrutiny that which has already been sealed for
- 10:34Speaker 1: far too long. The paper's attorney, Christine Walls wrote. She
- 10:38Speaker 1: further fundamentally mischaracterized the role of the media in seeking
- 10:42Speaker 1: access to court records. The media are not distinguishable from
- 10:45Speaker 1: the public. They are the surrogates for the public, and
- 10:48Speaker 1: that's for sure. The media, the fourth Estate's real job
- 10:52Speaker 1: is to expose stuff like this. The media's real job
- 10:55Speaker 1: is to let the public know that there is corruption
- 10:58Speaker 1: going on. The media is job isn't to play sides.
- 11:01Speaker 1: The media's job isn't to have a political bent. The
- 11:04Speaker 1: media's job isn't to tell you what to think. The
- 11:07Speaker 1: media's job is to report the facts and then you
- 11:10Speaker 1: are to form your own opinions. And especially the media's job,
- 11:14Speaker 1: or a content creator's job, or a reporter's job is
- 11:17Speaker 1: the most important thing is that you don't become the story.
- 11:21Speaker 1: And there seems to be a lot of people who
- 11:23Speaker 1: want to be the story in this case. And thankfully
- 11:26Speaker 1: Julie Brown and some of these other reporters that have
- 11:29Speaker 1: been working doggedly for the Miami Herald have not done that.
- 11:34Speaker 1: It's always been about the survivors and justice for the survivors,
- 11:38Speaker 1: and that's definitely respectable. In my opinion, I think Julie K.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Brown deserves a lot of credit for the way she
- 11:43Speaker 1: went about this, highlighting the potential for further press scrutiny.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Walls took umbrage during today's phone conference with Maxwell's bid
- 11:51Speaker 1: to have the language of the notifications emphasized the consequence
- 11:55Speaker 1: of the information becoming public. Look, Maxwell doesn't want this
- 12:01Speaker 1: stuff out there, doesn't want it to become public, because
- 12:04Speaker 1: that's one less bullet in her chamber. If this stuff
- 12:06Speaker 1: is public and these guys are outed, what does she
- 12:09Speaker 1: have holding over their heads? How can she blackmail them?
- 12:12Speaker 1: How can she you know, force them into doing what
- 12:14Speaker 1: she wants them to do. If this all becomes public,
- 12:17Speaker 1: she loses all the ammunition from her gun, and then
- 12:21Speaker 1: what what is she left with? Nothing? She has left
- 12:24Speaker 1: with nothing, and she knows the only thing that's keeping
- 12:27Speaker 1: her hat out of prison at this point are the
- 12:29Speaker 1: dark secrets that she knows and the powerful people that
- 12:32Speaker 1: she can she can unmask inside of this entire, this whole,
- 12:38Speaker 1: entire criminal enterprise, and that's what they're scared of. And
- 12:41Speaker 1: if they take that away from her, if they take
- 12:45Speaker 1: that away from her, she will have nothing left. And
- 12:48Speaker 1: the self preservation that we see her involved in for
- 12:51Speaker 1: so long will soon be gone, and she will have
- 12:55Speaker 1: no choice but to be questioned by the FBI at
- 12:59Speaker 1: that point. Judge Presco agreed the semantic change Maxwell proposed
- 13:06Speaker 1: does sound terribly scary and was not needed, as the
- 13:09Speaker 1: notifications already state that the files would become publicly available. Accordingly,
- 13:14Speaker 1: the proposed language is denied. Presca said, well, that's good.
- 13:18Speaker 1: A denial to Gillane Maxwell's team, a denial to Gillane
- 13:23Speaker 1: Maxwell and her attempts to keep things quiet and to
- 13:29Speaker 1: keep these names sealed. It's it's always nice when you
- 13:31Speaker 1: see her and her team get a slap in the
- 13:33Speaker 1: face when the Second Circuit unsealed the initial tranch of
- 13:37Speaker 1: files in August. Their release turned up public scrutiny on
- 13:41Speaker 1: model scout Jean Luke Brunel, New Mexico governor Bill Richardson,
- 13:45Speaker 1: financier pedophile Glenn Dubin, and former Senator George Mitchell, to
- 13:50Speaker 1: name a few. Another of these individuals, Britain's Prince Andrew,
- 13:53Speaker 1: has been dogged by controversy ever since. Oh as he
- 13:57Speaker 1: well should, as he well should. This man is an
- 14:01Speaker 1: absolute black eye for the English people, an embarrassment to
- 14:06Speaker 1: the Royals, and that's saying a lot considering all the
- 14:08Speaker 1: embarrassments that they've had in their family. And for this
- 14:12Speaker 1: guy to still run around and act like he hasn't
- 14:15Speaker 1: done anything, and to thumb his nose at the rest
- 14:18Speaker 1: of us by hiring this legal team and hiding behind
- 14:21Speaker 1: them after saying he was going to talk to the authorities.
- 14:24Speaker 1: It just goes to show you the kind of person
- 14:26Speaker 1: that Andrew is. Andrew, who is Queen Elizabeth's second son,
- 14:31Speaker 1: is still reeling from a public relations disaster that transpired
- 14:35Speaker 1: with a BBC interview in November. Federal prosecutors in New
- 14:39Speaker 1: York disclosed earlier this month that the Prince completely shut
- 14:42Speaker 1: the door on voluntary cooperation forming the US, forcing the
- 14:46Speaker 1: US Attorney's Office to weigh other options. Former prosecutors for
- 14:51Speaker 1: the district say those measures could include everything from a
- 14:54Speaker 1: request under the Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty or MLATT to
- 14:58Speaker 1: an arrest warrant. Well, that's pretty horror strong, a pretty
- 15:05Speaker 1: strong statement, huh. And arrest warrant for Prince Andrew. That
- 15:08Speaker 1: would be nice. I'd love to see that. I don't
- 15:10Speaker 1: know if we we'll get to that point anytime soon,
- 15:12Speaker 1: but i'd love to see it. In my opinion, the
- 15:14Speaker 1: only way we can get there is if we do
- 15:17Speaker 1: the do it correctly and go after the lieutenants first,
- 15:21Speaker 1: round them all up, have them all start ratting on
- 15:23Speaker 1: each other, build the case against Prince Andrew that's so
- 15:26Speaker 1: iron clad that they can't deny the request, and then
- 15:29Speaker 1: present the evidence to the English authorities and have them
- 15:32Speaker 1: get on board. That's pretty much the only way we're
- 15:34Speaker 1: ever going to get Andrew wrapped up in this, especially
- 15:37Speaker 1: if there's an arrest warrant, it's gonna have to be
- 15:39Speaker 1: an ironclad case. But the other ones, the core four. Look,
- 15:44Speaker 1: they're right here in America. They're right here for Berman
- 15:47Speaker 1: to go after, and they're not going to be protected
- 15:49Speaker 1: by that immunity deal according to the SDNY. So what
- 15:52Speaker 1: are you guys waiting for? Go get the Core four,
- 15:56Speaker 1: start the interrogations, have them all start singing like little
- 15:59Speaker 1: song birds, and then mass arrests. I am talking mass
- 16:05Speaker 1: arrests everybody that was involved, all the employees who covered
- 16:08Speaker 1: for him, the pilots who covered for him, Everybody who
- 16:12Speaker 1: does not cooperate gets arrested. Everybody gets hit with rico charges.
- 16:17Speaker 1: Everybody is getting rid in fear of having all of
- 16:22Speaker 1: their finances seized by the federal government. That should be
- 16:26Speaker 1: what's going on right now now. Prince Andrew is certainly
- 16:30Speaker 1: that you're going big game hunting when you're going after
- 16:32Speaker 1: Prince Andrew, and there's no doubt you want to put
- 16:34Speaker 1: that feather in your cap and you want to bring
- 16:36Speaker 1: him to justice. But I think the proper course is
- 16:39Speaker 1: to go after the Core four in Gelan. First, get
- 16:42Speaker 1: them caught up, get them wrapped up, get them singing,
- 16:45Speaker 1: get them ratting, and then build that ironclad case that
- 16:48Speaker 1: nobody can pick apart, and then slam it right down
- 16:52Speaker 1: on the Prince of punk Asses aka the Prince of Lies,
- 16:56Speaker 1: Prince Andrew. Hopefully we get some more movement in this
- 17:00Speaker 1: case soon. Hopefully PRESCA does the right thing and releases
- 17:05Speaker 1: the materials that should be released, and hopefully the lawyers
- 17:09Speaker 1: for Virginia can continue to battle tooth and nail to
- 17:13Speaker 1: get this stuff released for the for public consumption. It's
- 17:16Speaker 1: it's a tragedy that this has not been released already.
- 17:19Speaker 1: This is something that concerns the whole entire nation and
- 17:24Speaker 1: it is still being kept under wraps. We deserve to
- 17:27Speaker 1: know who was involved with Jeffrey Epstein, and the survivors
- 17:30Speaker 1: deserve to be vindicated by those people being put on
- 17:33Speaker 1: blast as well. All Right, folks, if you'd like to
- 17:37Speaker 1: contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuci at
- 17:39Speaker 1: ProtonMail dot com. That's bo b b y c ap
- 17:42Speaker 1: U c c I at ProtonMail dot com. You can