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- 0:02Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, Jaguars
- 0:10Speaker 1: Happy Hours presented by the Fields Auto Group. And now
- 0:14Speaker 1: a guy who believes one of the greatest free agency
- 0:17Speaker 1: acquisitions of is Bucky Brooks. J. P. Shadrick. I don't
- 0:26Speaker 1: think there's any doubt about that. Welcome in Jaguars Happy
- 0:29Speaker 1: Hour presented by the Fields Auto Group. JP shatterick with you,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and we've got a program for you today, keeping the
- 0:36Speaker 1: team healthy in a different type of training camp. Will
- 0:39Speaker 1: get into maintenance days and what the organization has done
- 0:45Speaker 1: a couple of times so far in training camp to
- 0:47Speaker 1: keep guys healthy going into the regular season. We'll talk
- 0:50Speaker 1: up that defensive line some so many changes there, but
- 0:54Speaker 1: Jason Rebovitch, the defensive line coaches you would expect, is
- 0:57Speaker 1: excited about the group he has to work with. Have
- 1:00Speaker 1: they figured out the left tackle position? We'll hear from
- 1:04Speaker 1: George Warhoby, offensive line coach as well, and we'll go
- 1:07Speaker 1: around the National Football League. John Osier is with us
- 1:10Speaker 1: as always, Bucky Brooks is with us as always, and
- 1:14Speaker 1: I gotta John. I must say I think Joe of Fortunato,
- 1:17Speaker 1: who does our open was right that this acquisition of
- 1:20Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks and free agency. It doesn't get any bigger
- 1:24Speaker 1: than that, John Well, I mean not just this offseason,
- 1:28Speaker 1: but here. I mean, if Bucky, then maybe plais Leon,
- 1:32Speaker 1: sarahcly Keena Macarille, the Buckey number one, no doubt, no
- 1:35Speaker 1: doubt that. Yeah, you used to film, but hey, Bucky's
- 1:42Speaker 1: the guy to do it. Man, That's how it works.
- 1:44Speaker 1: So uh new, what's new this week? Bucky? You're you're
- 1:48Speaker 1: out in California. We got another week under our belt
- 1:50Speaker 1: with looking around the National Football League here, just big picture,
- 1:53Speaker 1: we're another week closer to the season, and it seems
- 1:58Speaker 1: like most everybody in the league, at least COVID nineteen
- 2:02Speaker 1: wise is healthy. That's another week in the books, and
- 2:04Speaker 1: that's a good sign. Bucky. Yeah, it is a good
- 2:08Speaker 1: sign that we're able to get through this without a
- 2:10Speaker 1: lot of tests pop popping up. It says that the
- 2:13Speaker 1: protocols are working. It also says that the players are
- 2:16Speaker 1: taken everything seriously. So I'm more optimistic now than ever
- 2:20Speaker 1: that we're not only going to get the kick off,
- 2:22Speaker 1: but we're gonna have an all stand this season. There
- 2:24Speaker 1: may not have any hiccups. John is pretty remarkable to
- 2:29Speaker 1: see those numbers that they put out the other day.
- 2:31Speaker 1: The league said they were like fifty something thousand tests
- 2:34Speaker 1: and of eight thousand different people and zero players tested positives. That,
- 2:40Speaker 1: as Bucky said, they're taking it seriously. Now, you just
- 2:43Speaker 1: got to get to the starting line and then to
- 2:45Speaker 1: the finish line after that. John, that's still a lot
- 2:48Speaker 1: to ask, But so far, so good. Well, I thought
- 2:51Speaker 1: from day one that the I mean, I think everybody
- 2:55Speaker 1: sort of thought this, the reporting stuff was going to
- 2:58Speaker 1: cause a lot of brush fires and the meet you mean,
- 3:00Speaker 1: they were gonna be the teams that had multiple players report,
- 3:04Speaker 1: and the media was gonna go, you know, and I'm
- 3:06Speaker 1: criticizing what I used to do obviously, but we're gonna say,
- 3:08Speaker 1: oh my goodness, that it will never work. And it
- 3:11Speaker 1: was always going to be this period, except it sort
- 3:14Speaker 1: of told the tale of training camp. Once they got
- 3:16Speaker 1: into the pseudo bubble, how did it work? And I
- 3:19Speaker 1: can hear all the naysayers already because you see him
- 3:22Speaker 1: on Twitter. Well, this doesn't mean anything. It's whatever happens
- 3:26Speaker 1: during the regular season. But try to understand, this is
- 3:30Speaker 1: pretty close to zero right now in this bubble. I
- 3:34Speaker 1: don't think it has to be zero as the regular
- 3:36Speaker 1: season goes on. I think it just has to be controllable.
- 3:39Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some flare ups. But I'm
- 3:41Speaker 1: like Bucky, even more so than in June July. I'm
- 3:47Speaker 1: really starting to think that they're gonna pull this thing
- 3:49Speaker 1: off and it's gonna be a relatively normal seat. And
- 3:54Speaker 1: I shouldn't say normal relatively pick up pre season that
- 3:59Speaker 1: I don't know that it's gonna be defined on the
- 4:02Speaker 1: field by COVID the way everybody is sort of assumed
- 4:06Speaker 1: for four months. Yeah, let's hope. Let's hope that's not
- 4:12Speaker 1: the case at all, Bucky. I mean, let's let's play
- 4:14Speaker 1: some football and and be as normal as we can
- 4:16Speaker 1: be in this environment. Yeah. No, I think that the
- 4:19Speaker 1: real tests will come once we get into the regular
- 4:21Speaker 1: season days, in the regular season practice periods and we're
- 4:25Speaker 1: out of kind of training camp mode, Because then what
- 4:27Speaker 1: happens is players are used to having a normal routine. Uh,
- 4:30Speaker 1: Tuesday's are off normally, that's when guys would kind of
- 4:34Speaker 1: get together and go out to eat or do their things.
- 4:36Speaker 1: And as you get later in the week, guys will
- 4:39Speaker 1: have like these dB nights or position groups will get together,
- 4:42Speaker 1: and so they will have to change the way that
- 4:44Speaker 1: they normally do business during the regular season. But I
- 4:48Speaker 1: think everyone understands what's at stake, and I think now
- 4:51Speaker 1: more than ever, UH players are taking precautions to make
- 4:54Speaker 1: sure they protect their teammates. John and your podcast this
- 4:59Speaker 1: week the ozone Podcast. Bucky has been a guest on
- 5:02Speaker 1: this podcast before, but this week you visited with the
- 5:07Speaker 1: head of the COVID department for lack of a better term,
- 5:09Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars Omega Partake, Scott Truelock, the head
- 5:13Speaker 1: athletic trainer, and Cassie You tell what did you find out?
- 5:17Speaker 1: What was the biggest piece of that conversation that stood
- 5:20Speaker 1: out to you, maybe about the difficulty and how they've
- 5:22Speaker 1: executed things to get the Jaguars on the right track. Um,
- 5:27Speaker 1: probably the biggest takeaway, or the biggest thing I was
- 5:30Speaker 1: impressed with, was the enormous amount of information that had
- 5:36Speaker 1: to be taken in either from by Mega, from the
- 5:42Speaker 1: league office, by Scott and Cassie, from all of the
- 5:46Speaker 1: medical information that comes flowing in, and then you've got
- 5:50Speaker 1: to sort of take that and funnel it into something
- 5:52Speaker 1: useful for the team. And then into all these protocols,
- 5:55Speaker 1: and uh, I guess more than any specific takeaway from
- 5:59Speaker 1: anything they said was just the enormous job that these
- 6:03Speaker 1: people have had and the education process for Scott and
- 6:09Speaker 1: Cassie educating the players every day, because you've got a
- 6:12Speaker 1: lot of young guys, and as Bucky knows, football players
- 6:16Speaker 1: who are twenty two years old, you know, they're not
- 6:18Speaker 1: always getting the best information or they're not reading medical
- 6:25Speaker 1: journals that if you know that, Bucky, but they're probably
- 6:27Speaker 1: not reading medical journals and trying to figure out COVID.
- 6:30Speaker 1: So they they've had to try to get the players
- 6:33Speaker 1: to listen. And I think the biggest thing they told
- 6:35Speaker 1: me was players are taking this very seriously. They get
- 6:39Speaker 1: it and then it goes it goes back to them
- 6:42Speaker 1: we talked to on the show last week. Players aren't
- 6:45Speaker 1: trying to screw this up. They're not out there trying
- 6:49Speaker 1: to make mistakes. They realized that their livelihoods, the season,
- 6:53Speaker 1: livelihoods of others depend on it. And the Jaguars COVID
- 6:57Speaker 1: team really gave me the impression that the players, at
- 7:00Speaker 1: least so far, are very diligent, very professional. They get
- 7:05Speaker 1: what has to be done. Yeah, John it's funny that
- 7:08Speaker 1: you you talk about the players getting it. I think
- 7:11Speaker 1: we've seen a couple of examples where UH coach Marone
- 7:14Speaker 1: is able to stand in front of the room and say, hey,
- 7:16Speaker 1: up in Seattle, we had a situation, but the player
- 7:19Speaker 1: trying to sneak someone in. We cannot have that if
- 7:21Speaker 1: we want to accomplish where we want to accomplish. In Tennessee,
- 7:24Speaker 1: they had a player that was at an off campus
- 7:26Speaker 1: party on a college campus. UH twenty one year old.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Another opportunity for Moron to go back and talk to
- 7:33Speaker 1: his players about how we have to add we have
- 7:35Speaker 1: to be very, very professional. We have to take this serious,
- 7:38Speaker 1: and we have to make sure that we're doing everything
- 7:41Speaker 1: to keep the entire team safe and they althy doing
- 7:43Speaker 1: this pandemic. You know, of all the possible stories like that, Bucky,
- 7:50Speaker 1: that's really the only two I've heard of instances like that,
- 7:54Speaker 1: which kind of speaks to our point. The players, for
- 7:56Speaker 1: the most part of I've done a very good job
- 7:58Speaker 1: so far. Now let's get in to the football side
- 8:01Speaker 1: of things here. And we discussed this a little bit
- 8:05Speaker 1: on Monday Night with Pete Brisco and Tony Boselli on
- 8:09Speaker 1: Jaguars happy hour, but that the idea of maintenance days.
- 8:13Speaker 1: The other day, Bucky, there were twenty four Jaguars players
- 8:17Speaker 1: held inside. Doug Brone said that they still had as
- 8:21Speaker 1: much work done inside than they would have had in
- 8:24Speaker 1: pads hitting outside. They can track it. They have the
- 8:27Speaker 1: monitoring system where they can track the output of players pushing, pulling, lifting,
- 8:33Speaker 1: doing different things inside. You see the list right there
- 8:35Speaker 1: of the guys that were inside the other day. Um,
- 8:39Speaker 1: but it is a shortened padded practice camp. I mean
- 8:43Speaker 1: there's only a handful of padded practices left. And Bucky,
- 8:46Speaker 1: this is an interesting balance. How much work do you
- 8:49Speaker 1: get on the field in a very short time frame
- 8:52Speaker 1: as opposed to keeping your team healthy and maybe working
- 8:55Speaker 1: on some things that could linger as the season goes along.
- 8:58Speaker 1: That is a really really balance. Yeah, it is a
- 9:01Speaker 1: fine balance. And I had an opportunity to talk to
- 9:04Speaker 1: some coaches and they talked about the goal of training
- 9:07Speaker 1: camp is to make sure that you can get everybody
- 9:11Speaker 1: on your squad to the first game healthy. And so
- 9:13Speaker 1: you want to lead on your sports science information, you
- 9:16Speaker 1: want to lead on your medical experts to try and
- 9:19Speaker 1: figure out what is the best way to get our
- 9:21Speaker 1: team uh ready to go and performing at an optimal
- 9:25Speaker 1: level when the season kicks off, and so that may
- 9:28Speaker 1: require scaling it back a little bit, taking off the pads,
- 9:31Speaker 1: doing some maintenance day type things to make sure that
- 9:34Speaker 1: your guys are available. But given the importance of depth
- 9:40Speaker 1: and the availability of your top players, I don't think
- 9:43Speaker 1: this is a bad approach for the Jaguars to take.
- 9:49Speaker 1: But don't forget to j in a normal preseason when
- 9:54Speaker 1: you have four preseason games. I get the players hit
- 9:59Speaker 1: a couple of times during a preseason game, but the
- 10:02Speaker 1: way teams are starting to approach preseason games now, players
- 10:05Speaker 1: are playing what maybe a game and a half during
- 10:07Speaker 1: that they're skipping one or two preseason games at the start,
- 10:12Speaker 1: maybe at the end. So for a lot of these
- 10:15Speaker 1: players that are out for maintenance, had this been preseason
- 10:19Speaker 1: week one, they're taking Thursday as a really light day
- 10:23Speaker 1: and it maybe a travel day. They're not playing in
- 10:27Speaker 1: the game, and they're probably off the next day. So
- 10:30Speaker 1: I don't know that you're losing as much as youth
- 10:35Speaker 1: as appearances might give right there, because usually the preseason
- 10:40Speaker 1: is close to three days off. For all these twenty
- 10:43Speaker 1: four guys who are taking these maintenance days. John didn't
- 10:48Speaker 1: surprise you to see Gardner Minshew on that list the
- 10:50Speaker 1: other day. There was a later a later addition to
- 10:53Speaker 1: it a little and it sort of makes you wonder,
- 10:58Speaker 1: was maybe that, Hey, I'm feeling a touch of camp
- 11:03Speaker 1: and I'm speculating, but maybe it was I'm feeling a
- 11:06Speaker 1: touch of camp arm, And maybe they just said, you
- 11:09Speaker 1: know what, there's no veterans out here that you're throwing
- 11:13Speaker 1: to anyway outside maybe like a keel and coal, So
- 11:16Speaker 1: take today off. Don't worry about it today. I don't
- 11:20Speaker 1: know that it was camp arm, but you know, maybe
- 11:22Speaker 1: it was just, hey, let's prevent that. It wasn't planned.
- 11:27Speaker 1: But when they got to the case in the morning,
- 11:29Speaker 1: they may have just said, look, there's really no reason
- 11:30Speaker 1: for the quarterback out there. If nobody else is gonna
- 11:32Speaker 1: be out there, let's give him one day off. But yeah,
- 11:34Speaker 1: it surprised me a little. Yeah, what do you think, Bucky?
- 11:38Speaker 1: I mean, is that something that's obviously something to to
- 11:40Speaker 1: keep an eye on to the next week or two
- 11:42Speaker 1: to see what happens with Gardner, But it seemed like
- 11:45Speaker 1: there was no big storyline of that before with him. Um,
- 11:50Speaker 1: I'll see what happens the next week. I guess yeah,
- 11:53Speaker 1: I think. I think this is some of what you
- 11:55Speaker 1: do with the starting quarterback. He's kind of earned his stripes.
- 11:58Speaker 1: He's made his way into being the Jaguar starting quarterback,
- 12:01Speaker 1: and so they want to make sure that they're protecting him,
- 12:04Speaker 1: making sure they limit the amount of throws that he
- 12:06Speaker 1: has throughout the entire training camp. They want to make
- 12:09Speaker 1: sure that Garna mit you, is ready to roll when
- 12:11Speaker 1: the season kicks off. That is why they may have
- 12:14Speaker 1: some of these scheduled maintenance days in there to assure
- 12:17Speaker 1: that his arm and his mind they're fresh and ready
- 12:20Speaker 1: to go when they really needed to. All right, let's
- 12:24Speaker 1: touch a little bit on some of the new faces
- 12:27Speaker 1: around this Jaguars offense this year. We're not talking between
- 12:31Speaker 1: the white Lions. Were talking on the sideline. J Gruden
- 12:33Speaker 1: of course, the new offensive coordinator, but the new quarterback
- 12:37Speaker 1: coach has been Macadoo, former head coach of the New
- 12:40Speaker 1: York Giants who was fired by the Giants and then
- 12:44Speaker 1: kept it was out of football the last couple of years.
- 12:46Speaker 1: He was fired up to be back in it. There's
- 12:48Speaker 1: no doubt about that. When we heard from the McAdoo
- 12:51Speaker 1: earlier this week. You know, I told guys the other
- 12:54Speaker 1: day I would have took a job coaching a monkey
- 12:56Speaker 1: how to do hop scotch if I had to. You know,
- 12:58Speaker 1: I just wanted to get back in and I love coaching,
- 13:01Speaker 1: and I just love seeing and being around players and
- 13:04Speaker 1: helping them get better, doing everything I can to help
- 13:06Speaker 1: those guys get better. And uh, you know, I look forward, Uh,
- 13:09Speaker 1: I look forward to doing it. I'm not sure exactly
- 13:13Speaker 1: what a monkey doing hop scotch would look like, but
- 13:16Speaker 1: it's obvious that he wanted to get back in the
- 13:19Speaker 1: game of football after being out a couple of years.
- 13:22Speaker 1: What about his personality, Bucky, You know, it was a
- 13:24Speaker 1: tough go of it in New York did not end well,
- 13:28Speaker 1: of course with Big Blue there. A couple of years
- 13:30Speaker 1: off might change your perspective on things a bit. And
- 13:33Speaker 1: now you get to come back in as a position
- 13:35Speaker 1: coaching and groom a young quarterback that that hopefully is
- 13:39Speaker 1: the future. Yeah. I was to say that Ben McAdoo
- 13:42Speaker 1: gets to go back and kind of go back into
- 13:45Speaker 1: a position that is is tied to the stress of
- 13:47Speaker 1: his character and his personality. He's an outstanding teacher and
- 13:51Speaker 1: quarterback developer, spend time in Green Bay, worked upunder Mike McCarthy,
- 13:56Speaker 1: understands how to deal with the quarterback position. And I
- 13:59Speaker 1: think he's going to be a great addition for garden
- 14:01Speaker 1: mention because in Green Bay for the longest time to
- 14:04Speaker 1: have what they called the Quarterback School, which is really
- 14:06Speaker 1: an intensive study and breakdown on footwork fundamentals and efficiency.
- 14:12Speaker 1: He did a terrific job with Eli Manning of making
- 14:15Speaker 1: Eli a more efficient passer, really encouraged him to use
- 14:20Speaker 1: the running backs out the backfield. And so when you
- 14:22Speaker 1: think about Ben McAdoo and Jake Gruden, I think we
- 14:26Speaker 1: can understand how this offense is going to look. And
- 14:29Speaker 1: with Chris Thompson and also Leonard for Nick catching the
- 14:32Speaker 1: ball out the backfield, you could see this offense be
- 14:35Speaker 1: a more efficient version of the offense that we saw
- 14:38Speaker 1: a year ago. He and coach, and I'm sorry, head
- 14:45Speaker 1: coaching position coach are two completely different jobs. I've got
- 14:49Speaker 1: no zone emails saying well, why would they hire this guy?
- 14:52Speaker 1: Didn't make it. None of that matters when it comes
- 14:54Speaker 1: to coaching position. But Bucky's exactly right that he can
- 14:59Speaker 1: obviously coach quarterback. He's been around great quarterbacks, which can't
- 15:03Speaker 1: hurt when you're going to gardener and saying, look, here's
- 15:05Speaker 1: what we did with Aaron Rodgers, Here's here's what you
- 15:07Speaker 1: do with the Eli Manning. Anytime you can add veteran experience,
- 15:12Speaker 1: which is what mcado and Gruden are, I'm all for it.
- 15:15Speaker 1: You know, the quarterback couldn't be in better hands considering
- 15:19Speaker 1: where they were when they started this offseason. The search
- 15:23Speaker 1: process to get to experienced guys with this level of
- 15:28Speaker 1: experience to work with the young quarterback. You know, uh,
- 15:31Speaker 1: it's probably the most experience, the most veteran sage heads
- 15:36Speaker 1: whatever you call them, that the quarterback has had this
- 15:39Speaker 1: franchise in all a long time. I don't see how
- 15:41Speaker 1: it doesn't help. Partner mentioned, Yeah, I agree, I think
- 15:47Speaker 1: it does help. I think it helps to have that experience.
- 15:49Speaker 1: And also, well, I would be remiss if I don't
- 15:51Speaker 1: mention Teary Whisky and tear Ybisky's experienced as an offensive coordinator,
- 15:56Speaker 1: having him around and dealing with the running backs and
- 15:58Speaker 1: being able to have that think you now talking about
- 16:01Speaker 1: a very very good coaching staff, particularly the offensive side
- 16:05Speaker 1: of the ball. I think that will matter when you
- 16:07Speaker 1: have so many young guys kind of working into the mix.
- 16:10Speaker 1: He's been at it for a long long time in
- 16:12Speaker 1: the National Football League, no doubt about that. So a
- 16:14Speaker 1: lot of experience on this Jaguars offensive coaching staff, for sure.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment. We'll dig into the
- 16:22Speaker 1: defense and most notably the defensive line where Bucky and John.
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- 19:00Speaker 1: insured by n c U. A Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour,
- 19:22Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick, Lucky Brooks, John Osier and you're looking
- 19:27Speaker 1: inside t I A a bank field looking south St.
- 19:30Speaker 1: John's River beyond and so far, pretty nice day here
- 19:35Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. And the Jags will be on that playing
- 19:38Speaker 1: surface Saturday for a scrimmage of sorts. And really they're
- 19:45Speaker 1: they're big time prep for their first home game, which
- 19:48Speaker 1: is septem not too far away. Welcome back, lad, you're
- 19:53Speaker 1: along with us. Um, let's get into the defensive line now.
- 19:56Speaker 1: And you know we've we've obviously talked about this on
- 20:00Speaker 1: in a few different shows John, but there's been so
- 20:03Speaker 1: much change on that defensive line. We heard from Jason
- 20:05Speaker 1: Rebrovich this week, defensive line coach, and for him, it
- 20:10Speaker 1: goes back to some things he learned when he was
- 20:13Speaker 1: growing up. My dad raised bird dogs when I was
- 20:17Speaker 1: a kid, and uh, you know his deal was if
- 20:20Speaker 1: if he shot a shotgun and that dog shied away,
- 20:24Speaker 1: that dog wasn't a bird dog anymore. So you know,
- 20:27Speaker 1: you could sit there and say, hey, these are the
- 20:29Speaker 1: guys that we got or or these are the people
- 20:31Speaker 1: that we have, and uh, you know, you you shoot
- 20:34Speaker 1: those shotguns off and you say, hey, let's let's let's go,
- 20:37Speaker 1: let's blast, and let's get off there and play with
- 20:39Speaker 1: whatever which ones we got out there. I'm not sure
- 20:44Speaker 1: how many bird dogs there are in Los Angeles, Bucky,
- 20:47Speaker 1: but that's uh, that's a sound bite if I've heard
- 20:49Speaker 1: one there. The point is, obviously, is you find out
- 20:53Speaker 1: right now, in this time period, who are the guys
- 20:56Speaker 1: that are gonna go out there and get it done
- 20:58Speaker 1: for you? And they gotta go out with they have
- 21:00Speaker 1: out there, and and so far they're they're pretty positive
- 21:03Speaker 1: about what they have. Bucket. Yeah, some people will see
- 21:06Speaker 1: this situation as being a challenge, but I will say
- 21:09Speaker 1: it's an opportunity. It's an opportunity for some guys to
- 21:11Speaker 1: get it onto the field and show the coaching staff
- 21:15Speaker 1: that they're ready to get it done. And I know
- 21:17Speaker 1: we have seen a lot of guys fall by the
- 21:19Speaker 1: wayside doing this training camp we're leading up to camp.
- 21:23Speaker 1: We saw guys retired, We've seen people opt out, we've
- 21:25Speaker 1: seen injuries impacted. But who is remaining and with the
- 21:29Speaker 1: people who are remaining, they are certainly capable of getting
- 21:32Speaker 1: it done. But it's going to take a massive effort
- 21:35Speaker 1: for these guys to play at a high level. It
- 21:38Speaker 1: means Tavin Bryant, Tim journey In, Dwayne Smooth. Those guys
- 21:42Speaker 1: have to play at a high level. And then Josh
- 21:44Speaker 1: Allen has to go from being what I call a
- 21:46Speaker 1: pro bowler to being a superstar. If he plays at
- 21:49Speaker 1: that level, they have more than enough ammunition to really
- 21:53Speaker 1: attack people and play the kind of defense they want
- 21:55Speaker 1: to see down there in Jacksonville. John, would you make
- 22:02Speaker 1: of Rebrovich's comments the other day? And obviously you know
- 22:06Speaker 1: he's gonna be confident about the group he has out there.
- 22:09Speaker 1: That's that's part of his job is to get those
- 22:12Speaker 1: guys ready to go. But and Bucky mentioned a couple
- 22:15Speaker 1: of names there too, that they're really high on. Even
- 22:18Speaker 1: still with Taban Brian off to the side and a
- 22:21Speaker 1: week to week with a bone bruise on his knee,
- 22:23Speaker 1: that was a name we heard a lot this pet
- 22:24Speaker 1: in the fast few days. Um, a lot of positive
- 22:27Speaker 1: talk about Taban Brian here. John, Yeah, I think REVS
- 22:32Speaker 1: Dad shot my cell phone off my lap, which is
- 22:34Speaker 1: why I lost contact you guys earlier. But it's it's
- 22:37Speaker 1: a I think people are generally jumping the gun a
- 22:43Speaker 1: little too much on woe is the Jaguars defensive interior.
- 22:47Speaker 1: I get they lost Woods, I get they lost Gunter.
- 22:49Speaker 1: Those are big losses. I don't know that we knew
- 22:51Speaker 1: enough about don Tavius Russell to be that concerned about
- 22:54Speaker 1: that loss. Um, and I want to sort of say
- 22:57Speaker 1: a I mean, ask Bucky at the end of this
- 22:59Speaker 1: to comment on us. Timmy journ again in the first
- 23:03Speaker 1: couple of weeks or the first week or so he's
- 23:05Speaker 1: been here, it's been remarkable how many players have made
- 23:08Speaker 1: a point to say this guy, you know, he used
- 23:13Speaker 1: Dwayne Smooths phrase, this guy is a dog. This guy
- 23:16Speaker 1: is out there in practice. He had a rough first day,
- 23:19Speaker 1: but the other players are impressed with what he's bringing,
- 23:22Speaker 1: the energy. If Journe again, is Journe again? To me,
- 23:25Speaker 1: that counters one of those other losses. I don't think
- 23:28Speaker 1: you're in that bad of shape. I haven't been able
- 23:30Speaker 1: to watch Jimmy journey and that much. I'm curious, Bucky,
- 23:32Speaker 1: who watches a lot of film. What do you think
- 23:35Speaker 1: of him? How good can he be? Quickly? This is
- 23:38Speaker 1: a good gift for the Jaguars. When he came over.
- 23:40Speaker 1: I was excited about it because watching him all the
- 23:43Speaker 1: way back in Florida State, he was a disruptive playmaker
- 23:46Speaker 1: at the point of attack. When you chronicle his career,
- 23:48Speaker 1: how he played at Baltimore, how you played in Philadelphia,
- 23:51Speaker 1: he's still very disruptive on the interior. Didn't necessarily have
- 23:54Speaker 1: the year that he wanted a season ago. But he
- 23:57Speaker 1: comes down and he's an energy as a bunny, he
- 23:59Speaker 1: stro on, he's tough, he's physical. More importantly, he has
- 24:02Speaker 1: experienced and when you put an explosive, energetic player like him,
- 24:07Speaker 1: besides a Tavin Bryan who's also energetic and explosive man,
- 24:12Speaker 1: you now could have problem on your hands. And just
- 24:15Speaker 1: know everyone that has been down on Bran the life
- 24:18Speaker 1: for young players typically goes off in their third year.
- 24:22Speaker 1: We finally could see him realize his first round talent
- 24:25Speaker 1: this season as the game settles down and slows down
- 24:28Speaker 1: for him. Another guy that you mentioned earlier, but he
- 24:33Speaker 1: was to want Smoot former well it was just now
- 24:36Speaker 1: his fourth year in the NFL, which is crazy to
- 24:38Speaker 1: think about, but he he talked this week about you know,
- 24:42Speaker 1: he's trying to figure out what he actually is. Is
- 24:45Speaker 1: he a big end? Is he a Russian? They moved
- 24:48Speaker 1: him around a little bit, and you know, towards the
- 24:51Speaker 1: end of last season you started to see him take
- 24:53Speaker 1: some strides. What did you see out of him coming
- 24:56Speaker 1: out in the draft And how difficult is that sometimes
- 24:59Speaker 1: when I mean you have been moved around earlier in
- 25:02Speaker 1: career to find out who you what kind of player
- 25:04Speaker 1: you really are? Yeah, it's really hard because when you
- 25:07Speaker 1: really talented, UH, coaches imagination sometimes can run wild. They
- 25:11Speaker 1: can say, hey, he's a big end, he can go inside,
- 25:13Speaker 1: he can do a bunch of different things. And I
- 25:15Speaker 1: think for smoothness understanding where do I fit in the puzzle?
- 25:19Speaker 1: Can I master my craft at one situation. I think
- 25:23Speaker 1: he's more of a big and I think given what
- 25:25Speaker 1: they're lacking, I think you want to see if he
- 25:27Speaker 1: can be that based defense event. And then because Josh
- 25:32Speaker 1: Allen is a uniquely talented player, with his athleticism and
- 25:36Speaker 1: his traits, you want to leave him kind of as
- 25:38Speaker 1: the open side, the LEO player, the guy that can
- 25:41Speaker 1: kind of run and rush and do a bunch of
- 25:44Speaker 1: different things. And so I believe in this defense Smooth
- 25:47Speaker 1: his best position to be a based in to play outside,
- 25:51Speaker 1: to kind of be the heavy handed player against him run.
- 25:57Speaker 1: He didn't get them out like he didn't get can't
- 26:00Speaker 1: say Leo Bucky, can't say Leo right here, um and many.
- 26:09Speaker 1: But in terms of Smoot, I'll tell you what he is.
- 26:13Speaker 1: He's exactly what good defensive lines in this league need.
- 26:18Speaker 1: He's not necessarily a front line starter. I don't think
- 26:22Speaker 1: he's going to Pro Bowl then he's getting twelve sacks.
- 26:24Speaker 1: But what he was sort of talking about when he
- 26:27Speaker 1: talked to Think it was yesterday, not really knowing what
- 26:29Speaker 1: he is. The Jaguars know it is he's a guy
- 26:31Speaker 1: who can play all those spots. Four guys never play
- 26:36Speaker 1: on the defensive line in the NFL. Good defensive lines
- 26:39Speaker 1: has six, seven, eight guys. Think of the Giants when
- 26:41Speaker 1: they beat the Patriots, superwol you can come in waves.
- 26:43Speaker 1: That's what Smoot gives them. He is a guy. If
- 26:47Speaker 1: you're a good defensive line, you've got a few Duyne Smoots,
- 26:51Speaker 1: because you've got guys who are necessarily superstars, but they're
- 26:55Speaker 1: really good and they produced when they're in the game.
- 26:57Speaker 1: But he's not a Leo. He's not a Leo. I
- 27:00Speaker 1: got that leon does not exist a board point point taking.
- 27:05Speaker 1: But here's what I say, John, As you make a
- 27:07Speaker 1: good observation. And I think a lot of people are
- 27:09Speaker 1: so used to thinking that a defensive line has to
- 27:12Speaker 1: have guys that ring up these double digit sacks. But
- 27:15Speaker 1: you can get away with it if you do it
- 27:17Speaker 1: by committee. So let's just say Smooth is able to
- 27:19Speaker 1: get you six or seven, Brian gives you four or five.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Journal again gets you four or five. But then at
- 27:24Speaker 1: the end of the year, if you're sitting around forty
- 27:27Speaker 1: to forty five, that's a very productive year for a
- 27:30Speaker 1: defensive line. Josh Allen has to carry the weight and
- 27:34Speaker 1: maybe you get something from somebody else. But if the
- 27:36Speaker 1: rest of the guys can give you four or five apiece,
- 27:38Speaker 1: that is more than enough to be an effective unit,
- 27:41Speaker 1: particularly against the past. Let's hear from one of the
- 27:45Speaker 1: newest members of that defensive line unit, Calevan Chason, first
- 27:49Speaker 1: round draft pick, and you know, it'd be nice to
- 27:51Speaker 1: have him obviously contribute to some of those numbers this year.
- 27:54Speaker 1: But learning how to do that, he says, won't be
- 27:57Speaker 1: much of an issue. I feel like I'm a sell
- 28:00Speaker 1: lady learner. M not trying to, you know, go and
- 28:02Speaker 1: get to anybody else. But I feel like the way
- 28:05Speaker 1: I learned things, it's not really hard for me to
- 28:06Speaker 1: pick up on anything when it's academically a football like you, um,
- 28:11Speaker 1: you give it to me on the playbook, on the video, film,
- 28:14Speaker 1: on the field right then and there. I pick up
- 28:16Speaker 1: fast and I learned quick. So that's never really kind
- 28:19Speaker 1: of being anything. No learning curve hell back for me. Uh.
- 28:22Speaker 1: I kind of just been putting in the work every
- 28:24Speaker 1: day when it comes to watching film or studying the
- 28:26Speaker 1: playbook or even being on the field. I'm taking a
- 28:28Speaker 1: step by step, day by day and just trying to
- 28:30Speaker 1: learn from everything. Bucky, I'll start with you here on
- 28:35Speaker 1: Chase on You know, his sample size of L s
- 28:39Speaker 1: U were somewhat limited because of injury down there, and
- 28:42Speaker 1: he's still a very young man, um so what did
- 28:45Speaker 1: you make when he was out there? Obviously, and you know,
- 28:49Speaker 1: being that locked in as he says he is, that
- 28:52Speaker 1: can only help a young player when he's trying to
- 28:55Speaker 1: transition to a new league like this one. Yeah, look,
- 28:58Speaker 1: Jason is an else an athlete. Looking back at my nose,
- 29:02Speaker 1: I talked about being an urgent athlete. He was energetic,
- 29:05Speaker 1: did a great job of running and chasing and playing
- 29:07Speaker 1: from snap to whistle. The thing that he is right
- 29:10Speaker 1: now is he's a newbie when it comes to being
- 29:12Speaker 1: a pass rusher meeting. He doesn't have the full repertoire
- 29:15Speaker 1: pass or skills to be able to really throw a
- 29:18Speaker 1: bunch of different pitches at blockers. That said, his first step,
- 29:22Speaker 1: quickness and his verse, he can be a guy that
- 29:25Speaker 1: was very effective similar to Yannicking Gockway when he came
- 29:28Speaker 1: into the league. He may not have everything at his disposal,
- 29:32Speaker 1: but his speed, energy and tempo could enable him to
- 29:35Speaker 1: be a guy against eight to ten sacks. Just playing
- 29:38Speaker 1: on sheer talent, you put that opposite of Josh Allen
- 29:41Speaker 1: because he is going to command double teams. He can
- 29:45Speaker 1: win one on once and that could be enough to
- 29:47Speaker 1: be a contributing factor right away as a rookie. It
- 29:52Speaker 1: sounds John like what Josh Allen was last year. You know,
- 29:55Speaker 1: if you're hearing Jeff Logavan say it in the last
- 29:57Speaker 1: week or so, Allen on talent alone, got a lot
- 30:00Speaker 1: of those sacks last year. Now you're starting to put
- 30:02Speaker 1: some some pass rush moves together with that. John. That's
- 30:06Speaker 1: a big difference. Yeah. And as far as Chase and
- 30:10Speaker 1: you know, he has this athletic ability that jumps off
- 30:14Speaker 1: the page when you're watching practice. You know, if you
- 30:17Speaker 1: do anything about football, your eyes are drawn to him
- 30:19Speaker 1: and you say, who's that guy? He looks different than
- 30:23Speaker 1: everybody else. I think what's most encouraging for me on Chason.
- 30:27Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to talk to him face
- 30:28Speaker 1: to face all the COVID stuff, but in listening to
- 30:32Speaker 1: him in a few interviews and then making some calls
- 30:35Speaker 1: and talking to people who have dealt with him inside
- 30:37Speaker 1: the organization, his ability to communicate his maturity. JP. You
- 30:42Speaker 1: remember this from Josh Allen last year as soon as
- 30:45Speaker 1: Josh walked in the building, he felt different. When you
- 30:49Speaker 1: talked to him. You knew he was going to gravitate
- 30:51Speaker 1: the calais. You knew he was going to do the
- 30:53Speaker 1: right things. And he held that all season, showing maturity
- 30:56Speaker 1: on many different ways that I don't see very often
- 30:59Speaker 1: from Rook From what you hear, Halevan is that thing
- 31:03Speaker 1: kind of kid. To me, that's the key. There's no
- 31:06Speaker 1: question about his athletic ability. If he combines that with
- 31:09Speaker 1: this Josh Allen type maturity, that's what makes Josh the
- 31:13Speaker 1: whole package. Boy, then you've got something special out of
- 31:16Speaker 1: those two guys. It's too early to know on Caleban yet,
- 31:20Speaker 1: but those signs to me are even more encouraging than
- 31:23Speaker 1: what you see on the field because those signs mean
- 31:26Speaker 1: he's gonna take advantage of his God given talent. Yeah,
- 31:31Speaker 1: I agree with you, John, because he does have god
- 31:34Speaker 1: get given talent. This was a big time basketball player
- 31:37Speaker 1: coming up, someone who is still I would say, kind
- 31:40Speaker 1: of new to the game in the position as it
- 31:42Speaker 1: comes to being a pass rusher. But the reason I
- 31:45Speaker 1: think is really important to talk about yannicking Goquay is
- 31:48Speaker 1: because no one expected and got Wai to be the
- 31:50Speaker 1: player that he emerged as for the Jaguars when he
- 31:53Speaker 1: was drafted out of Maryland. I'm gonna say Chason is
- 31:56Speaker 1: a more explosive, dynamic and athletic um prospect coming out. Now.
- 32:03Speaker 1: It may take him a while to put it together,
- 32:05Speaker 1: but there's no reason why early in his career he
- 32:08Speaker 1: can't be a contributor despite not really knowing what he's
- 32:11Speaker 1: doing coming off the edge. He's a better run player. Yes,
- 32:17Speaker 1: then in Goay was coming out. I think has made
- 32:20Speaker 1: him a first round pick and you assume it will
- 32:23Speaker 1: be much stouter against the run in his career. Yeah,
- 32:27Speaker 1: I think so. I think he has a lot of
- 32:29Speaker 1: talent you're now putting him. And also this, I think
- 32:32Speaker 1: the observation was made by both of you guys. You
- 32:33Speaker 1: talked about his maturity. Because now Josh Allen is the
- 32:38Speaker 1: leader of their room, we'll just assume he's the leader
- 32:40Speaker 1: that de limee room. That competition is going to force
- 32:43Speaker 1: Chason to step up his game because of the way
- 32:46Speaker 1: that he talks about wanting to get it. He is
- 32:48Speaker 1: going to be in Josh Allen's hip pocket. I think
- 32:51Speaker 1: that bowls well for the Jaguars. Not in but in
- 32:56Speaker 1: two and beyond. All right, let's I like that. That's
- 33:01Speaker 1: a that's a good sign for the organization for sure,
- 33:03Speaker 1: and and and don't fret about the defensive line. According
- 33:07Speaker 1: to John Oshan, we're back in a moment. Let's get
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- 33:13Speaker 1: tackle position. We'll hear from George Warhop, the offensive line
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- 35:44Speaker 1: extremely important and we need him to perform at a
- 35:46Speaker 1: high level. The biggest thing from me from last year
- 35:50Speaker 1: to now is he can take all the practice he's
- 35:54Speaker 1: out there and all the practice he's taken, all the reps.
- 35:57Speaker 1: Uh there's been, uh been to this point, no issues
- 36:01Speaker 1: with him physically. Uh So, I mean he can just
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- 36:32Speaker 1: off day today, Welcome back, j P. Shatrick, Bucky Brooks,
- 36:35Speaker 1: John Oser, Jaguars. Happy our rolls along and there has
- 36:39Speaker 1: been a little bit of a development at the offensive
- 36:41Speaker 1: line since we last spoke Bucky, and that was the development,
- 36:45Speaker 1: George Warhop saying, well, yeah, he's important, Cam Robinson, because
- 36:49Speaker 1: he's gonna be our starting left tackle. We had talked
- 36:52Speaker 1: and there's been a little rumble of some competition you know,
- 36:55Speaker 1: in camp. But Cam Robinson, at least Warhop said it,
- 37:00Speaker 1: you know, has played the position much more obviously, and
- 37:03Speaker 1: coming into camp was way ahead of Will Richardson. Now
- 37:06Speaker 1: Richardson's working his way into and being comfortable at left tackle.
- 37:11Speaker 1: But Cam Robinson is the guy. And I will say
- 37:13Speaker 1: the other day, it must have been yesterday Cam Robinson
- 37:18Speaker 1: and one on ones against Josh Allen. I don't think
- 37:20Speaker 1: he lost against Josh Allen yesterday. So you see a
- 37:25Speaker 1: guy who's motivated, who's in pretty good shape, who, according
- 37:29Speaker 1: to Tony Boselli, has worked on his footwork and things
- 37:33Speaker 1: are going well for Cam Robinson. That's a good sign, Bucky. Yeah,
- 37:36Speaker 1: it is a very good sign to to hear those things.
- 37:39Speaker 1: To hear uh, Jory's talking about what he's doing, him
- 37:43Speaker 1: being in trench at left tackle, Tony Basselli talking about
- 37:47Speaker 1: his improved footwork. Because coming out of Alabama, this was
- 37:49Speaker 1: a ball of brawler. This was someone who was expected
- 37:52Speaker 1: to be really a key player more as a run
- 37:55Speaker 1: blocker than as a pass protector, and so a lot
- 37:58Speaker 1: of how effective you will be we'll really depend on
- 38:01Speaker 1: the design of the offense. Will we see the Jaguars
- 38:04Speaker 1: commit the running to football. It's been a lot of
- 38:07Speaker 1: time going forward with the offensive line instead of back feddling,
- 38:11Speaker 1: because if we see them go forward, would they run
- 38:13Speaker 1: throw off flay action? I think we will see the
- 38:15Speaker 1: best version of Cam Robinson this season. John, how about
- 38:25Speaker 1: George Warhop there and and and Cam's development over time? Here?
- 38:30Speaker 1: You know this is this is a line you can
- 38:32Speaker 1: start left tackle all the way across. They're all back
- 38:35Speaker 1: from last year. But that's been the focus I think
- 38:38Speaker 1: of a lot of conversation in the offense. Uh, this
- 38:42Speaker 1: whole offseason is that left tackle position? And here it
- 38:46Speaker 1: is contract year for Cam coming up. Yeah, it was
- 38:50Speaker 1: my question that it prompted the answer and Bucky, as
- 38:54Speaker 1: you know, it's not the first time that one of
- 38:55Speaker 1: my questions has been absolutely laughed at with this Dane
- 38:58Speaker 1: the way he did it. Uh. I wonder with Cam
- 39:04Speaker 1: Robinson if we fully grasp as non players something like
- 39:10Speaker 1: JP and I, how much the A C L can
- 39:13Speaker 1: set you back and how much of an issue it
- 39:17Speaker 1: can be to try to return from that. The following season,
- 39:21Speaker 1: war Hoop talked about the biggest differ between Cam is
- 39:23Speaker 1: he's able to practice every day. They're not maintaining him,
- 39:27Speaker 1: to use that word, but they're not trying just to
- 39:29Speaker 1: get him on the field. It sounds for listen to
- 39:32Speaker 1: war up in Moron that there were many games last
- 39:35Speaker 1: season where they were just trying to get Cam. I
- 39:37Speaker 1: think it was Marone used the word just trying to
- 39:40Speaker 1: get him to survive. Um, if that's what's going on,
- 39:44Speaker 1: If he's back to where he was trying to get
- 39:48Speaker 1: to before the injury, and if Seli is right that
- 39:50Speaker 1: he has improved that much, then he is the key
- 39:54Speaker 1: to the whole thing, then maybe that's what was missing
- 39:57Speaker 1: last year. Bucky. I'm curious if if you ain, most
- 40:01Speaker 1: fans grasp how difficult it can be for a player
- 40:05Speaker 1: when he's not able to practice a dent the way
- 40:07Speaker 1: Cam Wasn't you know, it's a huge challenge coming off
- 40:11Speaker 1: in a c L injury. Normally John and JP, it
- 40:14Speaker 1: takes about two years before you see that player returned
- 40:18Speaker 1: to the form that we saw him prior to the injury.
- 40:20Speaker 1: For Cam, this would be the first offseason. I mean,
- 40:23Speaker 1: this would be the off season where he was able
- 40:25Speaker 1: to actually work on his skills, meaning his fundamentals and
- 40:28Speaker 1: footwork instead of rehabbing. That makes a huge difference in
- 40:33Speaker 1: his development. One of the reasons why he is more
- 40:35Speaker 1: comfortable in practice now is because even though they didn't
- 40:39Speaker 1: have a true or traditional offseason, he was able to
- 40:42Speaker 1: do football stuff as opposed to rehab. That has made
- 40:45Speaker 1: the difference. And don't underestimate the confidence coming back in
- 40:50Speaker 1: terms of the confidence in the knee. He now knows
- 40:52Speaker 1: he can make all the movements. When you have that
- 40:55Speaker 1: twins of doubt, a lot of times you're thinking about
- 40:57Speaker 1: your leg and you can't think about the technique better
- 41:01Speaker 1: or even the opponent that you're facing. Now he's able
- 41:04Speaker 1: to really focus on the football part of playing the position.
- 41:09Speaker 1: Let's touch on one of the new editions on the
- 41:12Speaker 1: offensive line this year, Ben BArch Division three player from St.
- 41:17Speaker 1: John's up in Minnesota, and he first came Bucky on
- 41:20Speaker 1: a lot of our radars because it was Smoothie at
- 41:23Speaker 1: the draft. You know, not many at least around here,
- 41:26Speaker 1: I don't think watch Division three football. Um, how well
- 41:30Speaker 1: known was he in the scouting community going into the draft,
- 41:35Speaker 1: and you know, it seems like so far he's been
- 41:39Speaker 1: able to do certain things in camp that make you say, Okay,
- 41:42Speaker 1: this guy has a future of some kind. Don't know
- 41:45Speaker 1: exactly what it is yet, but um, how does he
- 41:48Speaker 1: continue to develop and when did he When did you
- 41:50Speaker 1: first hear about Ben bart Well? Obviously on the All
- 41:53Speaker 1: Star circuit his name was prominent because you don't find
- 41:56Speaker 1: many D three players that are able to play at
- 41:58Speaker 1: EASTAI in college All Star games, and then when you
- 42:01Speaker 1: have an opportunity to watch him play, he's competitive, he battled,
- 42:05Speaker 1: he didn't look like the game was too big for him.
- 42:07Speaker 1: And so the biggest transition that you have to worry
- 42:09Speaker 1: about when you get a player that is playing coming
- 42:12Speaker 1: from playing D three ball to now playing in the
- 42:14Speaker 1: National Football League, how long does it take him to
- 42:17Speaker 1: get acclimated to the speed, tempo, and strengthened power of
- 42:21Speaker 1: the game and the opponents that he faces. By all accounts,
- 42:25Speaker 1: he's been able to hold his own and so it
- 42:28Speaker 1: may be ugly at times this year as he's transitioning,
- 42:31Speaker 1: but as he settles in. This was a player there
- 42:34Speaker 1: was a dominant player on the D three level. If
- 42:36Speaker 1: he can settle in and kind of have that confidence,
- 42:39Speaker 1: he can be a very solid player on the interior. John,
- 42:43Speaker 1: I was interested to see him in person just to
- 42:46Speaker 1: see is he just a skinny guy that put on
- 42:48Speaker 1: a bunch of weight. But I don't think he's that.
- 42:50Speaker 1: I think he's broader than I expected just in general.
- 42:53Speaker 1: And then he put on all the weight with that,
- 42:56Speaker 1: Well so are you and I j So that's uh,
- 43:01Speaker 1: he's with that right with us. He Uh, he's not
- 43:06Speaker 1: overwhelmed at all. And I think the key to him
- 43:09Speaker 1: not being overwhelmed is as you said, he fits physically. Uh.
- 43:15Speaker 1: Had he played at Division one school in the last
- 43:17Speaker 1: couple of years that he transferred from, it was I
- 43:19Speaker 1: think he would have done fine. I talked to him
- 43:22Speaker 1: once in a and o z own conversation that we did.
- 43:27Speaker 1: I think it was mayor June talked to him face
- 43:29Speaker 1: to face. What I was impressed with with him is
- 43:33Speaker 1: he sort of understood the line of questioning about Hey,
- 43:37Speaker 1: it's gonna be about transitioning from Division three, it's gonna
- 43:40Speaker 1: be about all those things he's always heard, and he's
- 43:43Speaker 1: not hockey about it. But you got the feeling that
- 43:47Speaker 1: it didn't surprise him when he did well at the
- 43:50Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. He said there was pressure because it's always pressure.
- 43:52Speaker 1: It's it's it's the biggest moment of his life. But
- 43:55Speaker 1: once he got out there, that sort of went away,
- 43:58Speaker 1: and he wasn't a prize to be competing at that level.
- 44:02Speaker 1: I don't think he's surprised that he's holding his own
- 44:05Speaker 1: against these NFL players. He did very well against Journey
- 44:07Speaker 1: in the first day. He's lost a couple and one
- 44:08Speaker 1: on ones. But I look at him as a guy.
- 44:12Speaker 1: I don't think he's ready to start immediately. It wouldn't
- 44:15Speaker 1: surprise me if he's pushing a j can By somewhere
- 44:18Speaker 1: during the season. And I think if forced to play,
- 44:22Speaker 1: I think this guy will do okay because I don't
- 44:25Speaker 1: think the acclamation is gonna take him as long as
- 44:27Speaker 1: maybe conventional wisdom says about a Division three player. I agree.
- 44:34Speaker 1: I don't think this transition would be nearly as long
- 44:37Speaker 1: as we think. And I think he also will be
- 44:40Speaker 1: as good as the company that he keeps around him.
- 44:43Speaker 1: We talked about Cam Robinson being able to play well.
- 44:46Speaker 1: You think about a j Ken Andrew North like he
- 44:48Speaker 1: has a lot of guys that he can learn and
- 44:50Speaker 1: draw from. And if he's thrown in there um due
- 44:53Speaker 1: to an injury or a different situation that puts him
- 44:55Speaker 1: on the field, I think he will understand how to perform.
- 44:58Speaker 1: And I also think the neighborhood meeting, the guys playing
- 45:02Speaker 1: beside him, they can support him as he's beginning to
- 45:05Speaker 1: work through some of those Ricky struggles. All right, guys,
- 45:09Speaker 1: we'll come back in a moment and go around the
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- 47:38Speaker 1: you're out there. We're gonna stay out there. Were everybody.
- 47:42Speaker 1: Let they throw throw thecept the quarterback. You don't have
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- 47:53Speaker 1: with some reason, if for some reason you're making a
- 47:58Speaker 1: I watched Josh Allen wearing a microphone during training camp
- 48:05Speaker 1: practice before mic dub. Segment will be available later tonight
- 48:11Speaker 1: on at Jaguars social media, Jaguars dot Com, and Jaguar's YouTube.
- 48:16Speaker 1: Josh Allen We've had touched on him a moment ago,
- 48:19Speaker 1: but you see a little bit of personality there. Welcome
- 48:21Speaker 1: back Jaguars Happy Hour JP, Shadrick Buckey Brooks, John Os,
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- 48:34Speaker 1: of the Fields Auto Group. Let's go around before we
- 48:38Speaker 1: go around the league, Bucky, did you ever wear a
- 48:40Speaker 1: microphone during a game when you played Curious? I never
- 48:44Speaker 1: had the opportunity to wear a microphone, but I would
- 48:47Speaker 1: have loved it. I would have loved to have like
- 48:49Speaker 1: a running dialogue for everyone to hear my inner thoughts.
- 48:52Speaker 1: I don't know that it always would have been positive.
- 48:54Speaker 1: Would have been a lot of fun for me to
- 48:55Speaker 1: share an express Maybe they have to put it on
- 48:59Speaker 1: cable not over the year. I have a question. Yes,
- 49:07Speaker 1: of course I would nobody who want to hear it?
- 49:08Speaker 1: But um, Josh Allen, I never were going around the league.
- 49:14Speaker 1: I've said it before, but every time I see the kid,
- 49:17Speaker 1: to me, he is the hope for this franchise and
- 49:22Speaker 1: Bucky talked about in the show. I am as excited
- 49:25Speaker 1: and optimistic about the franchise because of him. I didn't
- 49:31Speaker 1: cover Peyton's rookie year in India, covered him for ten
- 49:34Speaker 1: years after that. To me, Josh Allen is the best
- 49:38Speaker 1: young player the Jaguars have had in terms of culture
- 49:43Speaker 1: everything you want, uh, maybe since Bisselli back in the day,
- 49:47Speaker 1: maybe since Fred Taylor, maybe since guys like that. He
- 49:51Speaker 1: is unbelievable in terms of what you want to see.
- 49:54Speaker 1: To me, he's the reason that I have hoped for
- 49:56Speaker 1: this franchise. Three unbelievable model draft pick to me, you
- 50:03Speaker 1: know John two piggyback off of that. Coaches will always
- 50:05Speaker 1: tell you the best teams, the best players are their
- 50:09Speaker 1: hardest workers, and so Josh Allen is going to carry
- 50:13Speaker 1: currency in that locker room because he not only has
- 50:15Speaker 1: a production, he has the performance, but also the way
- 50:18Speaker 1: he goes about his business. The young players that walk
- 50:21Speaker 1: into that locker room will now step up their game
- 50:24Speaker 1: because they know the best player always has his engine
- 50:27Speaker 1: running hot when he steps into the field. So check
- 50:32Speaker 1: out Josh Allen. Mike Top coming up a little later
- 50:35Speaker 1: tonight on Jaguars dot com, the Jaguars YouTube accounting at
- 50:38Speaker 1: Jaguars on social media. Let's go around the National Football League.
- 50:42Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals made but A Baker the highest paid
- 50:46Speaker 1: safety in NFL history four years fifty nine million dollars
- 50:52Speaker 1: in the extension, but Bucky, he has exactly zero career interception.
- 50:57Speaker 1: What's interceptions? What gives? Oh? It speaks to the changing
- 51:01Speaker 1: dynamic of the safety position. We have seen it. Uh,
- 51:04Speaker 1: These safeties that are dropping down in the box, playing
- 51:06Speaker 1: like linebackers and doing a bunch of different things tackles, sacks,
- 51:10Speaker 1: forced bumbles, being able to get around the ball and
- 51:12Speaker 1: a varied different ways. Those things matter much more than
- 51:15Speaker 1: just interceptions. That the safe the position a lot of
- 51:19Speaker 1: money for safety. John. Yeah, good day to be a
- 51:24Speaker 1: friend of him. And I'm calling him if I know
- 51:27Speaker 1: it's you need I thank you need greatness of that
- 51:34Speaker 1: position these days, Cardinals are clearly paying for it. It
- 51:38Speaker 1: brings me back to the Jaguars. I hope they can
- 51:41Speaker 1: get some level of play out of that position for
- 51:43Speaker 1: them this year. I think it's key. The Detroit Lions
- 51:49Speaker 1: yesterday decided to forego practice to protest the shooting of
- 51:53Speaker 1: Jacob Blake and Kenosha Wisconsin. Uh. It's the most public
- 51:57Speaker 1: display I think from the NFL team since that moment
- 52:01Speaker 1: just a few days ago. Bucky. This is obviously a
- 52:04Speaker 1: huge time for protests and things of that sort around
- 52:09Speaker 1: these type situations, but it's another situations, and the Lions
- 52:13Speaker 1: decided to take a big step, and that is a
- 52:15Speaker 1: big step to skip a practice. Yeah, I think it's
- 52:19Speaker 1: a big step. And what I think we're seeing and
- 52:21Speaker 1: learning his map. Patrician is really trying to do a
- 52:23Speaker 1: better job of connected with his locker room. Whenever you
- 52:25Speaker 1: have these player led things and everyone was filling on board,
- 52:29Speaker 1: including the coaches, it kind of brings the team together,
- 52:32Speaker 1: much like we saw some of the protests that took
- 52:34Speaker 1: place in Jacksonville and the team went out to support
- 52:38Speaker 1: those things. Can't bring your luck room together if handled
- 52:40Speaker 1: in the right way. Yeah, John Dubucky's point there. We
- 52:44Speaker 1: saw it firsthand with Doug Marone and the Jaguars getting
- 52:48Speaker 1: together this offseason too, to go to the police station
- 52:51Speaker 1: and go downtown and do these things together. Yeah. And
- 52:54Speaker 1: I think you're going to see more of it. I
- 52:56Speaker 1: get there are fans who email with all the time, Hey,
- 53:00Speaker 1: I don't want to see this. I want this as
- 53:02Speaker 1: a break. The reality is athletics, sports and politics, culture,
- 53:08Speaker 1: whatever you call it, have combined for years. Players it's
- 53:13Speaker 1: okay for them to have opinions and actions on things
- 53:16Speaker 1: they feel passionately about. Here's our weekly Joe Judge segments
- 53:23Speaker 1: in New York Today. He said that the Giants have
- 53:25Speaker 1: thought about taking Daniel Jones's red jersey off to quote
- 53:30Speaker 1: pop his pads a little bit before the season opener. Uh,
- 53:34Speaker 1: they said there aren't going to throw him into the
- 53:36Speaker 1: quote royal rumble or anything. Bucky, what in the world
- 53:40Speaker 1: is this about? Hey, look man, Joe Judge, how are
- 53:44Speaker 1: you trying to establish a new identity for the New
- 53:47Speaker 1: York Giants. He wants to be a tough team. He
- 53:49Speaker 1: wants to be projected as a tough minded coach. But
- 53:51Speaker 1: this would be stupid. And I mean, this is this
- 53:53Speaker 1: is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. To expose your quarterback,
- 53:56Speaker 1: the most important position on the field, to unnecessary It's
- 54:00Speaker 1: I don't understand why George would even consider that. They
- 54:04Speaker 1: want to play football for New York the football Giants. John, Yeah,
- 54:09Speaker 1: what's next? Put him in the Oklahoma draw? I mean,
- 54:11Speaker 1: it's it's ah. I doubt he'll actually do it. You
- 54:15Speaker 1: would think if they do do it, it would be
- 54:18Speaker 1: one play and get him out to serve a point.
- 54:20Speaker 1: But I agree with Buddy, I mean, I agree with Bucky.
- 54:22Speaker 1: Come on, come on, A couple of final thoughts here.
- 54:27Speaker 1: Bengals quarterback Mackenzie Alexander left the team after his father
- 54:31Speaker 1: wouldn't missing and call your county, Florida. That's deep southwest Florida,
- 54:35Speaker 1: Naples area. Uh. And he was later arrested on one
- 54:38Speaker 1: kind of battery, allegedly confronted the man who left behind
- 54:42Speaker 1: his father on a very picking trip. This thing is
- 54:45Speaker 1: still up in the air. He's I think about to
- 54:47Speaker 1: be or has just been released on bond, so he's
- 54:50Speaker 1: gonna help the search. That's a it's a tragic story.
- 54:53Speaker 1: Hopefully it ends positively bucky, but that's a it's a
- 54:56Speaker 1: crazy situation for him right now. Yes, certainly you're crazy
- 54:59Speaker 1: since you waste and uh. Dawson prayers the McKenzie Alexander
- 55:02Speaker 1: and his family hopefully they can find his dad. But
- 55:05Speaker 1: I wouldn't condone the behavior. But I do understand if
- 55:09Speaker 1: two guys go on a very picking trip and only
- 55:11Speaker 1: one returns and the one that returns didn't bring the other,
- 55:14Speaker 1: I mean, I can understand why McKenzie Alexander was very
- 55:17Speaker 1: upset when he saw. Yeah, that's a this is a
- 55:21Speaker 1: that's a strange one there, and just that we hope
- 55:23Speaker 1: that things end well, John, I'm interested in your commentary
- 55:27Speaker 1: on this. Next one in the league is considering the
- 55:29Speaker 1: use of artificial crowd noise in the range of seventy
- 55:33Speaker 1: to eighty five decibels for games without fans present. It
- 55:37Speaker 1: would likely be constant throughout the game. What do you
- 55:40Speaker 1: make of it? Yeah, I guess I'll have to hear
- 55:46Speaker 1: it and see it. At first, I kind of get
- 55:48Speaker 1: the instinct, um you know, I'm I'm hesitant on it.
- 55:53Speaker 1: At the same time, I think it would be equally
- 55:56Speaker 1: weird to sit there as a fan and watch a
- 55:59Speaker 1: game where they're complete silence. So, you know, I haven't
- 56:03Speaker 1: played in quite Frankly, I often prefer silence because I'm
- 56:09Speaker 1: in the press box and trying to concentrate. I would
- 56:12Speaker 1: be more interested to hear what Bucky, Who's played, Who's who,
- 56:15Speaker 1: Who's in that environment. In that world, it doesn't bother
- 56:18Speaker 1: me to have silent, But I'm usually in a very
- 56:22Speaker 1: working capacity at the game. Bucky. I mean, I think
- 56:25Speaker 1: it's I think it's weird to have piped in noise.
- 56:29Speaker 1: We've seen it work a little bit in the bubble,
- 56:31Speaker 1: but I think at the end of the day, it
- 56:33Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. I think once players get in and
- 56:35Speaker 1: they see the opposing team, they kind of lock into
- 56:37Speaker 1: the competition. Maybe from a TV viewing perspective, it helps,
- 56:42Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's all kind of weird when
- 56:45Speaker 1: it's it's like a video game. To me, I can
- 56:48Speaker 1: see piping in for the broadcast makes a little more sense,
- 56:53Speaker 1: I guess. But I guess I'll have to see and
- 56:56Speaker 1: understand it more to have a hot take on it. JP.
- 57:00Speaker 1: But we've well, some teams might have experience already with it.
- 57:04Speaker 1: We've seen some stories. I just said that. I just
- 57:10Speaker 1: said that, Bucky um So and then we and it's
- 57:13Speaker 1: with without fans present. So the Jaguars by that would
- 57:17Speaker 1: not be involved in this because they're planning on having
- 57:20Speaker 1: fans present for the game. That's our look around the
- 57:23Speaker 1: National Football League. Bucky, we fooled him again, John, we
- 57:27Speaker 1: did it. Yeah. I'm just trying to keep up with
- 57:35Speaker 1: no no, no, we did. You guys make me take
- 57:38Speaker 1: my game up and that I'm challenged. I'm challenged each
- 57:41Speaker 1: every week. I love it. Well, we're just getting started.
- 57:45Speaker 1: We're two down and uh a whole bunch to go
- 57:49Speaker 1: on Wednesdays. We appreciate it. As always, John will look
- 57:52Speaker 1: forward to your riding throughout the week. Bucky will catch
- 57:54Speaker 1: up with you again next week. Thanks to our entire
- 57:57Speaker 1: crew for Bucky and John, I'm J. P. Shadrick at you.
- 58:00Speaker 1: Next week, it's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.