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Interview: Kait Deeds · The Living Freed Podcast

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you What's up, everyone? Thank you so much for
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listening to the living free podcast and tuning
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in this week for this episode I have a special
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guest with me that being my roommate Caitlin.
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Um Caitlin and I have lived together Caitlin.
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How long have we lived together now? Um, like
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is it four months now? Is it that's a lie July
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August? september october wow wow it feels longer
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in a good way it feels a lot longer i feel like
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you lived here with claura and i like you were
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just the secret third roomie i did i moved in
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like during what may i feel like i moved in yeah
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that's that's how it felt um caitlyn is the sweetest
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if y 'all got to meet her you would love her
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she loves everything about the ocean i don't
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think she's ever been in my room before because
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she's really taking it all in at this moment
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Um, she loves to look for shark's teeth and she
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is a mountain girl at heart But anyways, i'm
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gonna jump in to what's up this week What is
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up this week is we went to my cousin's birthday
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party I dragged caitlyn along and she got to
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meet most of the fam and had many questions after
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it was so fun But outside of that it was pretty
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chill i'm gonna have her come into the what's
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up and or what's in and what's out segment So
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for me what is in is spooky movies you know because
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like halloween's coming up you don't really like
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scary movies no spooky and scary is different
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yeah like scream everyone's gonna get murdered
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but like i know what's gonna happen okay and
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it's fine but anything demonic i don't like as
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you look at the picture on my wall that i'm pretty
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sure is demonic and i desperately need to get
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rid of but yeah or like the halloween movie i
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don't know why i really enjoy those but and the
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adams family but anyways that's my what's in
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of spooky movies what's your what's in my what's
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in is driving with the windows down oh weather
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right now top tier us going back home to the
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mountains was just fabulous okay now my what's
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out is i think i'm getting a cold as you know
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oh that was my what's out but that's okay i have
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another one too so that's okay we can have the
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same what's out but yeah i feel like my nose
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is stuffy and my voice sounds weird Do you agree?
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I did not want to sing in church today actually
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because I was like the poor people in front of
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me and I was thinking about Claudia sitting because
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I was like wait I don't think anyone needs to
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hear me right now. No, genuinely that was my
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thought process the whole time as I was like
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I really don't want anybody to hear me talk or
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sing. at all yeah no i agree i already can barely
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carry a tune i was carrying no tune you have
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a karaoke tune i do have a karaoke tune you know
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i get an encore every once in a while only from
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the guy running the karaoke but it's fine anyways
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we're gonna dive into this episode i have a what's
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out but that's okay oh yeah what well i thought
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it was because we're both getting sick but sure
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no i have my own my what's out is okay oh well
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now that i'm sitting here and i have to say it
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now i don't think i remember it i had one and
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then i think i forgot it i'm sad about it though
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okay so you can steal mine are you in denial
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of being sick no because i'm not sick oh oh your
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what's out was me being sick oh absolutely not
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mine okay anyways burn all right caitlyn has
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decided what her what's out is my what's out
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is cold coffee and i used to be such a hater
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of hot coffees but let me tell you A hot coffee
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gives you warm hands and a cold nose. And I'm
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thrilled for this. Like, I am in the Moby Elf.
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Meemaw, you're drinking cold coffee today after
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church at Grumpy Grandpa's. Well, it's also 75
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degrees outside in Wilmington. You're right.
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You're right. Also part two of what your what's
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out is. Oh, hint boys. Oh my god. I hope, I hope.
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This finds him. I hope it does. I hope this finds
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him. Do you want to spell his name out really
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quick? No, that's okay. I'm respectful. Okay.
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I love that though. State Farm. State Farm. That
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was my nickname porn first too. I do want to
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say. Yeah, it was. He played us, but that's fine.
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We strong. We will recover. We will rebuild.
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Somehow. Okay, now we're gonna dive into this
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week's episode. Okay, so Caitlin and I were talking
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a couple weeks ago about well honestly a quick
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recap is just how you've started reading your
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Bible a lot more and actually getting into it
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and understanding it but Kind of tell us about
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how you're living and your ideology on how to
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live life before I don't know Whatever changes
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last summer how I used to live. Yeah, surely
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I'll just start from beginning and to now. Yeah,
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okay So I always grew up Christian in a Christian
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household. My parents are great They took me
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to church and I always kind of had that foundation
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of like what Christianity was but I kind of entered
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those middle school years my family moved to
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as we all know, Western North Carolina, because
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it's been talked about a lot. And I kind of had
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a really difficult time kind of transitioning
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into that phase. I didn't have a lot of friends.
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I didn't really know how to interact with my
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peers because I came from kind of suburbia, like
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a beach town, West Palm Beach, moved to the middle
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of nowhere, didn't know how to interact with
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my peers. And so I really only found myself hanging
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out with like People from church and here's the
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thing guys when you move to the middle of nowhere
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your church body is typically filled with retirees
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Pastors or Yeah, the dirt underneath my feet
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About it a church of 15 people. Yes, she can
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concur No, I believe that because when my parents
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moved us out of our cult church, they took us
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to a church that was like all parents, there
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was one person my age, and then all the rest
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were like little kids. And I looked at my mom,
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I said, this is my personal health. Don't make
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me go be friends with the nine year old girls
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when I'm 15. Like, I don't I don't want to go
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play Barbies anymore. I'm over it. OK, moving
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on. So because of that, like I. had a very grown
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up dialect, I knew how to speak around them for
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them to like me, didn't really know how to interact
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with people my actual age. And kind of just gotten
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to this mindset that I am a grown up. Yeah. And
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I'm like, perfectly fine. And then like moving
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on transitioning into like high school, I finally
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started having some friends. And these friends
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like kind of wanted me to just do things with
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them that, I mean, we're high school age, so
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we don't really want to like boast that like,
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we're Christians or like, yeah. I mean at least
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in my small town it was like how many parties
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did you go to in high school or how many drinks
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did you have last night at the football game?
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See okay my life was so different because I went
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to a baptist church and my parents like drink
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not like they're definitely not alcoholics but
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like they would give me alcohol and so I was
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doing the opposite I was like lying to people
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like no I don't drink alcohol meanwhile like
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I like Like, my parents had an alcoholic punch
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and the kids from church would come. I remember
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one, his name was Johnny. He came up, he was
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like, did you know that there's alcohol in that
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drink? And I looked at him, I said, that's crazy,
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what? Make sure nobody else drinks it. Meanwhile,
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it was like in my cup at the time that my mom
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handed me. So two very different lives. Y 'all
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are like bragging about drinking and I'm over
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here like. I've never had alcohol in my whole
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life. Yeah. You're Italian, so you just had a
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glass of wine from birth. Yeah. I came out of
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the room and they were like, here you go, kid.
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Don't forget the breast milk. Here's your cab
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sab. Yeah. Okay, so back on track. since i started
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transitioning into having a better relationship
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with kind of people my age i kind of wanted to
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fit in with them a little bit more so of course
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like even if i didn't do these things i lied
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about it at first and i was a goody two shoes
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i really was i didn't do any of these things
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uh then i went to undergrad go heels chapel hill
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i think everything that people everything that
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people say happens in freshman year did happen
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in freshman year yeah except for the freshman
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15 i am thankful for that i mean maybe i'm lying
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to myself but i didn't think it happened i started
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going out like not every night but definitely
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three nights a week i hindsight genuinely thought
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like oh i don't go out at all like i was on that
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so you're like lying to yourself the whole time
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100 but look looking back i'm like oh Honey,
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that was not a good look on you. I won't get
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into detail about any of these stories because
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that's for a different podcast segment. What?
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So because of that, I stopped really going to
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church. I didn't really like the area or what
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they had to offer religiously or kind of like
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anywhere to grow my relationship with the Lord,
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nor did I really feel the need to. Why did you
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not feel the need to? I Okay, I guess this is
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the whole point of this segment. So I fell into
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this mindset that I really didn't need to have
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a relationship with Jesus Christ until death
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do me part pretty much. No, seriously, I was
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like... I really don't need to worry about any
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of the actions I take when I'm young, because
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I should enjoy my life, you know? I'm, at the
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time, like, what? 18, 19? I should be able to
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do what I want. I feel that. And, like, when
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I'm old, according to you, 40. That's when I
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should really lock in for Jesus Christ. But it's
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just, like, not. Like, it took me until this
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year to probably realize that. Okay. So what
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changed this year? I'm not gonna give you a big
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head, but it was probably a big part of it was
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probably moving in with you. Yay. Also, it's
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definitely the Bible study that you hold. Like,
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um, can I say Molly's name on here? Yeah, sure.
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Okay, I didn't know like if you had a thing if
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certain people said they didn't want that. Okay.
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I digress. That's my favorite thing to ever say
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I digress. So I say that a lot in this podcast.
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Because I do I digress like every five minutes.
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So when I first moved to Wilmington I kind of
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really wanted to start back that relationship
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and kind of figure out like where I am and I
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met up with Molly because she worked with me
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and She kind of introduced me to the Bible study.
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First of all terrified the cup I was terrified
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Clearly didn't take me very long to warm up.
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It's been less than a year and now I live with
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you now y 'all it was like Night two or three
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of you coming to Bible study and she'd ordered
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herself like a whole pizza and just sat on my
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living room floor Eating it didn't offer it to
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anybody else. You're just like going ham on your
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pizza. What was it like breadsticks or something?
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Oh, yeah, so it was definitely like, you know,
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the little mini parmesan garlic bites that Domino's
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has Oh, I remember the order exactly because
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it's the it's I get like the 32 count of the
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parmesan garlic not bite Yeah, and then I also
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get I don't know the name of it, but it's like
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the really square thin pizza that's cut into
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squares instead of like slices. Now there's a
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reason behind it. My best friend and I used to
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do that back when I was in Hayesville, like that
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was our thing that we did together. But you like
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did that and when you left, two people came up
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to me after me were like, that girl is my spirit
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animal. and i was just like yeah i still haven't
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figured out her name but it's such a vibe she's
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such a vibe yeah and crazy to think less than
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like a month later i'm pretty sure we were in
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ashville again together i don't really know but
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anyways okay we really do digress now so you
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came to bible study yeah so i came to bible shout
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out molly she's such a queen um so molly kind
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of got me started in it and i was really hesitant
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mainly because it'd been a really long time since
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i was in that type of setting to reverse a little
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bit back in undergrad i was part of a church
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community slash college campus type of christian
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group and it was just unhealthy yeah very cultish
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won't go into it not trying to say anything about
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this group but it was definitely not the right
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fit uh they had to change a lot about their structural
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part of like their um Guess college campus life
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because of things that I brought up to them that
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I was like this really isn't good to do It's
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unhealthy and kind of traumatizing the way they
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acted and we see that happen a lot in like southern
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Christian College group culture and back to Bible
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study. So I was a little hesitant at first I
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think probably the first three times I came even
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during the pizza. I was pretty quiet and Our
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friend Ali actually too, and I didn't even know
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she was in it. It was kind of like oh oh okay
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moment yeah like i know people here yeah so i
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don't know at some point i started opening up
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a little bit more and guys i have to i have to
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what's the what's the word like i have to say
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something i do not buy bible study books i do
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not buy the study i will come and i will read
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that and i will participate 100 but i will not
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buy the study is someone gonna hold that against
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me maybe do i really care Not really. Yeah, because
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she's saying that to her Bible study leader.
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Yeah, no. She really does not care. No, that's
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exactly why I love that we're raw dogging Romans
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right now. That's the only way to put it, because
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that's the only way I keep putting it. Everyone's
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like, what are you studying? I'm like, Romans
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are like, oh, what are you using? I'm like, we're
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raw dogging it. Just straight up scripture on
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paper, baby. That's all we got. That and the
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Holy Spirit. Yeah, it was really low key this
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semester. No homework, nothing. Yeah, so I think
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it was really during the Isaiah study because,
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first of all, my mom is such a fanatic over Isaiah.
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Like, this girl had a Bible verse on her wall
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everywhere, like in every chapter from Isaiah
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that she'd be like, you know what Isaiah says?
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And I'm like, okay, Catherine. Okay, so I've
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really started enjoying it then and then I don't
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know if there was a specific moment I liked you
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I started liking you after during our trip and
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I was like wait, okay She's really cool and she's
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kind of cool to look up to I was like, this is
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kind of a vibe. She's kind of chill Yeah, no,
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she's like I was like, oh, she's a chill girl.
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Um And it was really nice that it was just like
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a nice environment to come into too. Little did
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I know I'd live here. Little did I know you would
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live here. Yeah, no crazy. And I'm really glad
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Clara liked me too. I did eat vegetables once
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and I panicked because I thought you offered
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the vegetables. and it was hers and then you
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were telling me about other stuff and i was like
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oh okay please don't hate me well i don't know
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it was great yeah and then i think whenever we
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you never remember the snowstorm yeah okay so
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being invited over for breakfast top tier moment
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for me because i was still struggling with honestly
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having friends here and i was like oh my god
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someone likes me enough to like have me over
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during a snowstorm not only did we have you over
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we made like homemade pancakes or waffles and
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i broke open my espresso machine and made lattes
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for everyone no it was it was iconic full out
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did breakfast all this to say when you wanted
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to go to salt church we went mother's day of
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this year for the first time i remember clocked
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it uh the service just felt so much like my home
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church besides the fact that my pastors at home
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are ancient I'm just kidding. We have got to
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take that part out. They're not ancient. They're
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just so much older. It's an older community and
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I love them. This is such a young community that
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still really focuses on a lot of the aspects
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of the Bible and spirituality and relationship
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that my church did. Yeah. A lot of the South...
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They don't do that. No, nothing about... Speaking
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in tongues praying for people and touching like
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hands like like laying hands on people and praying
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Oh unheard of in the south unless it's Pentecostal.
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Yeah, or non -denominational. Yeah, that's the
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only time no literally and like speaking in tongues
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was probably a big part I have never met any
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other church that ever Spoke in tongues until
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we went to salt like and it's not very evident
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But this woman came and prayed over me probably
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our second time at salt in tongues No, it was
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our first time. Was it our first it 100 % was
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because I'd never been around someone like speaking
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tongues and i literally said what the heck and
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then i said to myself i don't like that and then
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i corrected myself and i said no like if it's
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of the spirit then it's from god and you have
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no reason to dislike it you need to get over
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yourself and that was my whole thought process
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while you were getting prayed over it was definitely
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our first time and then your second thought process
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was definitely like she's got a demon in her
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because why have four people prayed over her
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no really that was our second week oh you're
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right i was starting to be like is there something
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wrong with me that i don't realize but anyway
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so we went to salt and you feel like that like
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how did going to salt impact you know going from
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being like i'll start living for jesus right
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before i die to being like actually i'm gonna
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start today this very minute no that's you're
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so you're so you clocked it good good job you
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clocked it um so jesse and parker just the way
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they lead in the church it's very like you know
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how they talk about the great commission it's
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like they talk about it as not a To -do list.
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Yeah, it's not sure with it. It is a to -do list,
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but they make it sound so Admirable and like
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desirable whereas like when you grow up and you
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get told like oh you have to go evangelize. I'm
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sorry yeah i have to go in the streets and i
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have to do what now and you want me to do what
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to who we're all not built to just talk to strangers
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and be like have you met jesus christ our lord
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and savior who died on the cross for yourself
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especially with the crazy people in the world
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nowadays so yeah so many crazy people they'd
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get added to the list they would you know it
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you know it and i know it so and they they kind
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of just really helped like change my mindset
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of like Oh, this is something I have to do if
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I want to be a Christian too. Oh, this is something
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I get to do as a Christian. Like, yes. Jesus
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Christ loves me so much that I get to... talk
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about it with other people and I get to like
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share the gospel and I want people to feel the
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way I feel and loved minus like singing refiner
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yeah never again never again after the after
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the year I've had no um burn the word so now
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this is the part where I don't need you to get
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a big ego because we started reading Romans because
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I really wanted to actually kind of learn the
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Bible yeah that was a big hindrance for me I
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never got the opportunity to learn how to read
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the Bible or even the way it's laid out. I think
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it can be really intimidating to some people
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because they see this very large book and each
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book has its own books in it and each book has
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its own chapters and it's definitely a little,
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I don't know, forthcoming. Overwhelming? Yeah.
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Daunting? It's definitely overwhelming, daunting,
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like all of the above, for sure. And so... I
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kind of like mentioned that I really wanted to
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learn how to read it and understand it. And even
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if I don't understand every part of it, at least
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how to go about it and what am I looking for
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in scripture? And so we broke it down on a Sunday.
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We started with the books and we highlighted
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what books mean what. And so poetry, law, history,
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Old Testament versus New Testament with the Greek
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and the Hebrew. And that really helps because
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I'm such a visual person. I'm God willing, that's
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what's going to get me through PT school. I'm
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a visual person. Show me the dead body. Cut it
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up. I need to see it. I need the real cadaver
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and not like the 3D lab. I digress. So I am I'm
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a visual person. And so seeing that highlighted
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and then we also everyone should like at least
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consider doing this, but kind of have like some
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color set out in highlighter or maybe pen or
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color marker of things that you want to highlight
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that mean Specific stuff so god's character is
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a big one and then human character and of course
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like things you really want to memorize yeah
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it kinda gives you something to look for like
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reading for purpose versus just reading to read
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and genuinely i think that's been. Such a turning
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point instead of just reading to be like this
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is what this paragraph said not really sure why
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it said it. Or what the purpose was but it said
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it be like great job here's a gold star and now
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i'm like okay so paul's crazy he said this. To
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the jews because they really need to calm down
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and really accept the gentiles cuz it's really
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not all about the jews. Yeah, you really clocked
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it the other night in Bible study. I was sitting
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there and I was like, wow, I don't remember us
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even going over this chapter, but Kate just slayed
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it, slayed. One person said one thing and I know
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that she's new and I was trying to find a nice
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way to be like, you're very far away and off
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from the real answer. But I love that you tried.
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And then I was just like, does anybody else have
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any opinions? And you popped in there and I was
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like, that's exactly what he was saying there.
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Thank you. Yeah, that was a nice way to say it,
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because when I got it wrong, like no that's like
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not it I don't feel like that's how I went about
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it but okay it really is because that's how it
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goes about whenever you don't like my outfits
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I'm like so and you're like you know you like
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it right well now I don't like it anymore cuz
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I need that approval okay no yeah so I look over
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for you for approval I'm like did I do it right
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did I do it right did I clog it? anyways i digress
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so really that was a big turning point honestly
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and that started what in july yeah july we moved
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in together in july and i when i got back from
22:39
being home i really wanted to like kind of work
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on my relationship and like have that desire
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to read the bible now guys i did not go from
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zero to 100 i am pretty chill i went from zero
22:52
to like 50 i'm a normal person i i'm just like
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everyone else i'm just a normal girly So I definitely
23:00
went from like picking up my barber once a month
23:02
to like twice a week. sometimes it's more sometimes
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it's less it's at least once that's for sure
23:08
because hey progress of church or bible study
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although i have skipped church because we've
23:13
been out of town though i did make an effort
23:16
to pick up my bible and read it while we were
23:18
out of town a couple of times so i saw you it's
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at least two to three times a week i would love
23:23
for it to be every day but i'm working on prioritizing
23:28
it and truthfully i'm a get up early person but
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i'm not a Oh my gosh, I can't wait to be here
23:34
today, morning person, you know? Yeah. Like,
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you're a morning person. I am not. I am not.
23:40
I've witnessed your side of the morning. okay
23:42
but my energy and attitude are a choice yeah
23:45
so i'm really working towards being intentional
23:49
with how i act and also intentional with how
23:52
i use my energy throughout the day instead of
23:54
focusing all of my energy on one good thing or
23:57
one bad thing being like okay this is how much
24:00
energy you can have towards this no exactly and
24:02
even my mom today was talking about how because
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she's a morning person but like having little
24:07
kids she purposely woke up with a positive attitude
24:10
but my mom was also always the woman reading
24:12
her bible every morning. like i used to tell
24:14
people my mom wasn't the mom you didn't want
24:16
to talk to before she had her coffee. my mom
24:18
was the mom you didn't want to talk to before
24:20
she went for a run and read her bible. that's
24:22
how you knew she was like Then you can approach.
24:24
She was ready for the day. I'd like peek out
24:26
and be like, has she gone for a run yet? Is her
24:29
Bible on the kitchen table? Has she read Job?
24:31
Okay, now I can leave my room and enter the world.
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Okay, no, that's so valid. I love Pamela. Yeah,
24:39
she's a queen. She really is. I look up to Pamela
24:41
every day. You and me both. It's like a mini
24:45
Pamela when I look at you. That's exactly what
24:47
I eat. That's what people call me on her side
24:49
of the world. But okay, so you pick it up two
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to three times a week. Yeah. On a good week,
24:55
which honestly, did you know that only 12 % of
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Christians in the whole world, especially in
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the US, read their Bible every day? Well, not
25:03
saying I'm better than anyone, but I'm definitely
25:05
not awful. You're closer to the 12%. I would
25:09
love to be part of the 12%. That's discipleship.
25:12
Okay, so how do you feel when you read your Bible
25:15
by yourself now? Okay, I definitely still get
25:18
overwhelmed. So I have to be very careful on
25:22
what I'm deciding to read and how overwhelmed
25:26
I want to be and whether or not you're there.
25:29
So I can have questions. I just finished Ephesians
25:33
and I really loved it. Ephesians was great. Okay,
25:37
what was like your takeaway with Ephesians? So
25:41
Ephesians was it see I'm also not like uh Ephesians
25:45
2 in this chapter in this book in this whatever
25:48
so somewhere in Ephesians it talks about like
25:52
love and then towards the end of course it brings
25:55
up the fruits of the spirit yeah and it kind
25:59
of just like coils all together guys I don't
26:03
know if you've realized this but the Bible is
26:05
like connecting dots She sent me this TikTok
26:10
and it was like, oh, and this and this and this
26:13
and this and like flipping back and forth. That's
26:15
what I do in church all the time. And now I'm
26:16
like thrilled to be doing it because I'm like,
26:18
guess what? This and this and this. And this
26:19
went to this. Like I went back into revelations
26:22
today and I don't do that. And I was like, wait
26:24
a second. This is what gets clocked here and
26:27
the same thing gets clocked in Mark. Yeah, it's
26:30
crazy. The Bible is crazy. I feel like Ephesians
26:34
is pretty foundational with the fruits of the
26:35
spirit. I mean, as a Kaid, Kaid. so as a kid
26:40
we really learned about the fruits of the spirit
26:43
and that we want to embody those and that's kind
26:47
of like the beginnings of like a christian human
26:50
and like who you want to set forth into the world
26:54
like the step forward you what's the word i'm
26:58
looking for like the foot you want to have in
27:00
the world like is like you want to show up you
27:02
want to show up as the fruits of the spirit and
27:05
like i feel like there's a bunch of really good
27:07
books in the bible that have like list of items
27:09
you should have so like fruits of the spirit
27:11
um the body armor of christ the commandments
27:15
i mean that's all you need right there how you
27:17
should act what you should not do and what you
27:19
should be wearing so if you if someone well i
27:23
guess if someone was Living the way you were
27:26
living before which wasn't a bad way to live
27:27
like you love Jesus Yeah, you can honest him
27:30
as a son of God, but you're gonna like I'll wait
27:32
like if someone was living that way right now
27:34
And you're gonna have a conversation with them.
27:36
Like what would you say to them? Okay so you
27:40
want to go finish it and I kind of thought about
27:42
it a little bit and I don't know if I have the
27:45
best answer because I'm kind of still working
27:48
through it myself but I would really encourage
27:52
them to find someone they look up to. Yeah. Not
27:55
saying it has to be like an older sister or older
27:58
brother type vibe. I mean, it really helps that
28:01
you're like that for me. But it's kind of just
28:04
someone that, you know, who was it in our kinship
28:07
that was like, you should have someone not like
28:09
necessarily wiser than you, but someone that
28:12
might know or have kind of experienced more and
28:17
you're more knowledgeable about certain - Like
28:19
a mentor. yeah like you're more knowledgeable
28:21
about certain aspects of the bible like someone
28:23
that's like above you in that way like knowledge
28:26
wise so that when you're asking questions you're
28:29
not receiving inaccuracy you know or like not
28:33
that it's perfect because once again the bible
28:35
is like for our interpretation in some ways and
28:38
so no one's gonna interpret it exactly how it
28:40
was meant to be necessarily but having someone
28:43
that might just lead you to a more profound and
28:46
biblical answer instead of like well it could
28:50
be this but i'm not really sure because you want
28:53
to have that kind of security blanket yeah and
28:56
so that's kind of what you've been is like i
28:58
know you're so knowledgeable in these things
28:59
and so like finding someone like that is really
29:01
great and then also i think something that really
29:05
helped is kind of acknowledging like why yeah
29:07
what is the why my why was honestly like i didn't
29:11
see the point i didn't see the point in being
29:14
So profoundly like in love with Jesus. Yeah,
29:17
I didn't see the point. Truly. I was like he
29:19
seems cool. He seems cool. Love him Nice work
29:23
Really really admire the work he's done Like
29:30
artistry truly next level, but really like if
29:34
he does sell to a normal person That's an inside
29:38
joke. Yeah, my cousin who's an artist is like
29:40
I don't like to sell my art to normal people
29:42
and me So yeah, I would say besides trying to
29:51
find someone that you look up to and a mentor
29:53
Like that is a relationship like you're seeking
29:56
for like that you like your relationship with
29:58
Christ is Amazing. I yeah, I look up to it. I
30:01
wish I could be that secure in like my own relationship
30:04
sometimes What was your why? like why change?
30:08
my why? why make the shift in your life? was
30:11
i wasn't happy. okay. and that's not every i
30:15
would think that's a lot of people's like like
30:17
knitting gritty of it. no because like if you
30:20
truly think about it like you can be surface
30:22
level happy like in a materialistic way. i'm
30:26
surface level happy that i can afford an apartment
30:29
and i have cats and that i have a job that like
30:33
pays my bills but where am I getting that satisfaction
30:38
of I have an end goal in mind to like be with
30:41
the father in heaven forever. And I have that
30:45
opportunity to do it. And not only do I have
30:49
the opportunity to like have that with him, I
30:51
have the opportunity to share it with other people.
30:53
And I want other people to have that I want other
30:56
people to be like, you know, what happens on
30:58
this earth is what happens on this earth, but
31:01
in the end i'm gonna spend eternity with jesus
31:03
christ in happiness exactly yeah and like in
31:06
loving arms yep i think that's really it i mean
31:09
it's not that deep for me yeah like my best friend
31:12
sarina always says like for christians this earth
31:16
is the most hell we'll ever experience because
31:18
it's the most separated we'll ever be from god
31:20
physically but for non -believers this is the
31:23
most heaven they will ever experience i was like
31:25
that's so like It seems so surface level, but
31:29
at the same time, it sits with me all the time.
31:30
Anytime something negative happens in my life,
31:32
I'm like, well, this is the most hell I'm going
31:34
to get. I think I'm going to be OK. Yeah. And
31:39
I want that for other people. I want them to
31:41
be like, this is the worst, and that's it. It's
31:44
not going to get worse than this, but in a good
31:46
way. Sometimes you don't need to go through the
31:49
lowest of lows ever to find Jesus. I was just
31:53
a normal teenage girl that's just a girl you
31:58
see that but yeah i just lived for my benefit
32:03
and i was tired of living for my benefit and
32:06
i'm such a giver like that's like i like to give
32:09
and like to give people the opportunity to know
32:12
who jesus christ is by like just giving them
32:14
one thing like well come to church with me and
32:17
maybe you like it maybe you won't but maybe you
32:19
will maybe you have a blast maybe you won't and
32:22
usually they do unless you're state farm and
32:24
you just ghost yeah me they do that state farm
32:27
does that he might actually show up to church
32:29
one day because i told him the church and everything
32:31
okay anyways so final thoughts like If someone
32:34
was like, okay, I'm starting, how do you help
32:36
them get kind of like the ground under their
32:38
feet, either with like reading their Bible or
32:41
just making that shift in their life? Like what
32:42
would you recommend? Like top three recommendations.
32:44
You've already kind of set a mentor. Yeah, top
32:46
three recommendations. Mentor is the top one.
32:49
I don't need to be your mentor. That's for sure.
32:51
If anyone's thinking like, oh my gosh, no. Like
32:54
she sounds so cool. I can relate to her. I'm
32:57
going to stop you right there. Like I can show
33:00
you how to find shark teeth. I can show you my
33:03
cat. who walks on a leash there's so much i would
33:06
be happy to do um not say that i wouldn't be
33:09
happy but i'm sure as shit for sure that you
33:12
do not need me as your mentor right now baby
33:15
i am knee -high to a grasshopper in like faith
33:19
worlds i barely i'm barely reach anything i there
33:23
are some things that i didn't know that i was
33:24
reading and i was like i feel like i should have
33:27
known that's like lauren every time she has i
33:29
think that's a famous verse she like cracks me
33:32
up every time she says that i'm about to like
33:34
really expose myself here real quick but we were
33:37
going through mark today in church and I know
33:41
that we talked about like the life of Jesus Christ
33:44
and like the lead up to his death and everything.
33:46
I didn't know it was in Mark. I didn't know the
33:48
Bible verses were in Mark. I thought they were
33:50
in Luke for some reason. They are in Luke. Oh,
33:52
that's right. They're all in the all four of
33:53
the Gospels just in different. Yeah. Okay. So
33:56
I wasn't wrong, but I didn't realize that. Yeah.
33:58
So I would say find a mentor, start with the
34:01
Gospels. That's a side note. The Gospels are
34:04
probably the best place to start. Don't start
34:06
with the Old Testament. Contrary to belief. don't
34:09
start with the old testament definitely do not
34:10
i cannot tell anyone to start with the old testament
34:13
don't start with revelations too because that's
34:15
just a downer maybe get to know jesus yeah first
34:18
and then branch out from there yeah i'd say mentor
34:21
start with the gospels and if you're a really
34:25
social person join like a bible study group i
34:28
am but it takes me a hot minute like you kind
34:31
of were the one that pushed me into kinship with
34:33
you not that you did but we both wanted to do
34:36
it but i would have never have done it i would
34:37
be like cool cool sounds great no thank you and
34:39
then my last thing is surround yourself with
34:42
people that also intentionally live for christ
34:46
um my last like note on that is i used to when
34:51
i was like still kind of very lukewarm i surrounded
34:54
myself with people that weren't what i admired
34:58
in a christian relationship because i had this
35:02
thought process that i was just gonna save them
35:05
i was like me just telling them i'm a christian
35:08
and being a good person is gonna do it when it
35:11
wasn't so definitely surround yourself with someone
35:14
that abides by the life that you're wanting to
35:18
leave or not leave that abides by the life that
35:22
you're wanting to lead and you just have to kind
35:26
of rely on each other in Romans is it? Paul states
35:30
that We should really encourage each other. So
35:33
definitely surround yourself with a community
35:35
of people that also want to encourage you in
35:37
your faith and not encourage you in worldly and
35:41
materialistic activities, items, social events.
35:45
There's nothing wrong with that, but there's
35:47
definitely a fine line between your human self
35:50
and like your spiritual relationship with Jesus.
35:54
Well, Caitlin, thank you so much for taking a
35:56
leap and coming on the podcast and sitting in
35:58
my room. Actually, it's my podcast. You've taken
36:02
over. She said there's going to be a monthly
36:04
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36:07
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36:11
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