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- 1:31Speaker 3: Our show is progressing like your ad reading buddy, I
- 1:35Speaker 3: appreciate you saying that.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Basically that changed for me on the ad reading is
- 1:39Speaker 1: when I said, I'm getting better at reading and you
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- 1:42Speaker 3: You just doing it now. Yeah, you said on bat
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- 1:46Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And that's the motivation I needed, the motivation
- 1:48Speaker 1: I needed, And there's motivation. This weekend, boys, the boys
- 1:52Speaker 1: took ourselves on a four hour, twenty minute flight at
- 1:55Speaker 1: what six am, A six to ten departure flight to
- 1:59Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Nevada, Dude, where dreams are either made or broken. Now,
- 2:04Speaker 1: it almost got bad quick in a hurry. The day
- 2:06Speaker 1: before we do a podcast. We're not gonna say who,
- 2:09Speaker 1: because that's gonna come out in about two weeks. It's
- 2:11Speaker 1: gonna be amazing. You guys are all gonna enjoy it.
- 2:13Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll do big numbies. Yeah, because you guys
- 2:15Speaker 1: are putting up big numbies for us. But I asked
- 2:19Speaker 1: Will as he's leaving the bus, I say, hey, would
- 2:22Speaker 1: fly to you one because what was thinking about taking
- 2:24Speaker 1: the one o'clock flight or that six am flight with
- 2:25Speaker 1: me and the boys as we ventured off in Vegas
- 2:27Speaker 1: with hopes and dreams. He goes, oh, man, I'm probably
- 2:29Speaker 1: gonna take that afternoon flight. So I pull out my
- 2:32Speaker 1: figurative journal and my figurative pen. I take a no,
- 2:35Speaker 1: I'm gonna remember that buss. I'm gonna remember that. Nothing
- 2:38Speaker 1: else was said. I'm packing that night. I'm having a
- 2:41Speaker 1: great time. I look, I'm put all my stuff together,
- 2:43Speaker 1: getting a couple of fire fits together, and I can't
- 2:45Speaker 1: even sleep because it's the old Line trip and I
- 2:48Speaker 1: can't wait. Not only as an old line trip, but
- 2:49Speaker 1: we went to Vegas to also shoot a couple of
- 2:51Speaker 1: pods that are going to be equally as fire as
- 2:54Speaker 1: that two hundred pieces. Those are gonna be amazing. It
- 2:57Speaker 1: is five thirty two. I'm sitting him at my day
- 3:01Speaker 1: that we bored in eighteen minutes, I get a phone
- 3:04Speaker 1: call from Will Compton. I think this man doing up
- 3:06Speaker 1: this early? Huh he's fighting Jocko again, Like, what's going
- 3:09Speaker 1: on with my boy?
- 3:11Speaker 3: Got his little imagination notebook and pen and stuff. I
- 3:14Speaker 3: was like, oh, I got him right where I want it? Right?
- 3:15Speaker 1: Where are you right where you wanted me?
- 3:17Speaker 3: And I didn't know.
- 3:18Speaker 1: I a's the phone and Buddy sounds out of breath
- 3:21Speaker 1: like he's been running. He's just in the truck driving.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Will you go how fast you're going?
- 3:26Speaker 3: Speed limit?
- 3:27Speaker 1: The speed limit plus five? Right, Yeah, you know the
- 3:29Speaker 1: speed limit. So why don't you go ahead and break
- 3:32Speaker 1: down what happened that evening that morning?
- 3:33Speaker 2: Yeah, so basically I set my alarm for four for
- 3:37Speaker 2: whatever reason. The boy doesn't hear it, and I guess,
- 3:40Speaker 2: and you know, when you're what's surprising to me is
- 3:43Speaker 2: the iPhone. It's going off right, But I'm never like
- 3:47Speaker 2: you got to touch the stop down at the bottom
- 3:49Speaker 2: of the screen. All you got to do is grab
- 3:51Speaker 2: and like touch one of the side buttons and it
- 3:52Speaker 2: it snoozees the alarm. I don't know how I turned
- 3:57Speaker 2: it off, but I turned it off, and next thing
- 3:59Speaker 2: I know, GP's call him a five thirty in the
- 4:01Speaker 2: morning because we're supposed to meet at the bus at five.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Now that is it's all. It's obviously all on me.
- 4:08Speaker 2: But I was curious, like, why why would they get
- 4:10Speaker 2: on you?
- 4:10Speaker 4: In a little bit on Apple correct, yeah, in a
- 4:13Speaker 4: little bit on JP and Mitch, I feel like, because
- 4:16Speaker 4: you think it because if you if we're supposed to
- 4:17Speaker 4: meet at five and it's five oh five, Like I'm thinking, okay,
- 4:20Speaker 4: you got to call at some point, but you but
- 4:23Speaker 4: you wait, you ate thirty minutes to give the boy
- 4:25Speaker 4: a phone call.
- 4:25Speaker 3: Now into the absolute panic, jpek.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Ald maybe maybe Mitch.
- 4:32Speaker 3: Maybe if you guys, you.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Guys thought hypotheticals on he could be doing this, he
- 4:35Speaker 2: could be doing that. Either way. Thirty minutes went by
- 4:39Speaker 2: the panic. For whatever reason, JP's called me, and I
- 4:42Speaker 2: hear the vibration of the phone call, wake up to that,
- 4:47Speaker 2: trying to cut it, like, hey, what's up?
- 4:50Speaker 3: JP?
- 4:50Speaker 2: And he was like, Hey, do you want to just
- 4:52Speaker 2: meet at the airport? Pull it back see five thirty
- 4:56Speaker 2: on my phone? Oh, absolute panic flings off at six twenty.
- 5:00Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, Charles starts earing, repainting, like I'm like, yeah,
- 5:03Speaker 2: we get on the phone, Charles start services, So what's
- 5:06Speaker 2: going on? Like flight leaves in fifty minutes. I'm not
- 5:08Speaker 2: making it's over, Like I'm not making it, and kind
- 5:10Speaker 2: of just stood there and like kind of put my
- 5:12Speaker 2: head down, like I ain't making this.
- 5:13Speaker 3: And she's like, you can make it. You can make it.
- 5:15Speaker 3: What time is it? She's like, what do you need
- 5:16Speaker 3: me to help you to do?
- 5:16Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know, I'm scatterbrain, I'm fucking shit
- 5:20Speaker 2: hit the fan, and I'm not responding the right way. Fortunately,
- 5:24Speaker 2: everything was basically packed. I just had to throw a
- 5:25Speaker 2: couple of things on and uh hit the road. I
- 5:28Speaker 2: hit the road and you know, as you guys know,
- 5:30Speaker 2: I'm going to speed limit. But I call Taylor and uh,
- 5:34Speaker 2: Taylor's me out, what are you doing up this early?
- 5:36Speaker 2: That's like the first thing he says, kind of with
- 5:37Speaker 2: the smile, kind of like okay, what's that's fine? You
- 5:40Speaker 2: feel yeah, oh, what's going on?
- 5:43Speaker 3: I said?
- 5:43Speaker 2: I got good news and bad news, and he's like,
- 5:46Speaker 2: tell me the bad news. I was like, bad news
- 5:49Speaker 2: is I just woke up. The good news is I'm
- 5:52Speaker 2: supposed to be on that flight at six twenty.
- 5:54Speaker 1: Which fires me up. Dude. Yeah, I'm like, oh fuck.
- 5:56Speaker 1: But then it sets in like I look at my phone,
- 5:58Speaker 1: I pull I'll do the pull back, and I look
- 6:00Speaker 1: at him like, damn, yeah, he ain't gonna make it.
- 6:02Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm wanting to walk up. I'm want to
- 6:04Speaker 3: roll up and be the hero. You know what I mean.
- 6:05Speaker 2: I'm gonna it was reaction point the poison one. Yeah,
- 6:10Speaker 2: but I'm thinking there's no fucking way, dude end up
- 6:13Speaker 2: pulling the ship.
- 6:14Speaker 3: Off, naked off while the A while the A list is.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Going still make it. It's like the back half of
- 6:19Speaker 2: the A list, and then see the boys. We get
- 6:23Speaker 2: on the flight, but I'm I'm gonna full sweat my
- 6:24Speaker 2: back to an ascid already sweat, and they sweat the
- 6:27Speaker 2: entire flight for our flight. We got a mammoth two
- 6:30Speaker 2: seatso rifle us just snoring their ass off.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Oh yeah in your aisle. Yeah yeah, logs like crazy.
- 6:36Speaker 1: But even before that, dude.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a bit of a deal on the plane.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Flight was It started off with a lot of adversity,
- 6:42Speaker 1: thankfully I answered the call. Well, I don't know if
- 6:44Speaker 1: we'll see we'll determine, and you guys can determine whether
- 6:47Speaker 1: I answered this call or not, because I can see
- 6:48Speaker 1: where I might have went wrong a little bit right.
- 6:50Speaker 2: But at first it started because I get on the
- 6:53Speaker 2: plane and and the uh what are what are they called?
- 6:55Speaker 3: The airline flight attendants.
- 6:59Speaker 2: You can tell she's in a mood like, oh, we
- 7:01Speaker 2: got a group of fucking dudes going to Vegas.
- 7:03Speaker 3: Got rest face on?
- 7:04Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 7:04Speaker 3: Yeah, she for her dude, it's Nashville at six am. Yeah,
- 7:07Speaker 3: we're going to barely.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Yeah, we're bringing different vibes. I'm like, should I sit here?
- 7:10Speaker 2: Should I sit there? I like go over to sitting
- 7:12Speaker 2: next to Ben Jones and realized, like he's too big
- 7:14Speaker 2: and I want to sit next to him, So I'm
- 7:15Speaker 2: gonna go sit another seat. Michi's in the middle next
- 7:18Speaker 2: to me, and I like lean back and I'm like
- 7:21Speaker 2: talking with the boys.
- 7:22Speaker 3: I think I just say shit.
- 7:23Speaker 2: You come to find out it's like that's fucking bullshit,
- 7:26Speaker 2: is what I ended up saying. I thought I thought
- 7:29Speaker 2: I basically just said all like something something shit, and
- 7:32Speaker 2: she literally goes, watch your mouth and I'm thinking Jesus Christ, like,
- 7:36Speaker 2: what's up her ass? Come the fin out later cors like, bro,
- 7:40Speaker 2: you said, like, dude, it was fucking bullshit.
- 7:42Speaker 3: Yeah he was. It was loud about it. Yeah that might.
- 7:45Speaker 1: I wish we'd do the progressive like pull the red
- 7:47Speaker 1: challenge flight on that because I don't know if you
- 7:48Speaker 1: said I.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Think I would love to see the tape. But if
- 7:52Speaker 2: that's true, like, okay.
- 7:53Speaker 3: I get it.
- 7:54Speaker 2: You know there's probably kids around. I'm like, oh, that's
- 7:55Speaker 2: fucking I'm just hype for the boys.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Yeah, and everyone plays the same game when they get
- 7:58Speaker 1: on Southwest flight. If you're lucky enough to have like
- 8:00Speaker 1: that A one through thirty, if you're able to sit
- 8:02Speaker 1: in that beginning little section, you think, and you're with
- 8:05Speaker 1: a buddy, Hey, let's sit here. We'll try to make
- 8:07Speaker 1: ourselves as big as possible. Put some shit in the
- 8:09Speaker 1: middle of the seat, put the head down, give yourself
- 8:11Speaker 1: like you're fucking like you might be mad in the world,
- 8:14Speaker 1: like you might be a bit of a loose cannon.
- 8:15Speaker 1: I don't want to sit next to that, right.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Right, So I'm sitting next to but you know, there
- 8:20Speaker 3: are a couple of stragglers.
- 8:21Speaker 5: In the.
- 8:23Speaker 3: Flight too. You think all people are going to miss
- 8:24Speaker 3: this fight. Yeah, like me.
- 8:25Speaker 1: I was sitting next to Corey. Yeah, Corey was in
- 8:29Speaker 1: the window seat. I was in the aisle seat. We
- 8:31Speaker 1: don't do too much, we don't get too elaborate. I
- 8:33Speaker 1: take my tickets. I had a paper ticket for whatever reason.
- 8:35Speaker 1: When I put my bag down, they said, do you want
- 8:37Speaker 1: to take us? And no, I'm good to Hey, you
- 8:38Speaker 1: get a free drink coupon, you might want to take
- 8:39Speaker 1: the ticket. So I hit the ticket. I said, we
- 8:41Speaker 1: both have our tickets. We put our tickets in the middle.
- 8:43Speaker 1: That's really it. Then we're talking. We're doing the clothes
- 8:45Speaker 1: talking with the aisles here, but.
- 8:46Speaker 3: We're we're in the lean up. Yeah, mice comes.
- 8:49Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell the Mischigan go back there. I
- 8:50Speaker 2: was like, no, notice, sit in the middle, sit in
- 8:51Speaker 2: the middle next to Will.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and so, and this lady is sitting I'm
- 8:54Speaker 1: in the exit row. She's sitting in the exit row
- 8:56Speaker 1: right next to me, kind of watching all this shit
- 8:59Speaker 1: go down. And obviously I wasn't realizing at the time,
- 9:01Speaker 1: but was not enjoying my process of trying to save
- 9:05Speaker 1: my seat. So while people are starting to come in.
- 9:08Speaker 1: The flight is getting fuller, But it's really we're not
- 9:10Speaker 1: at a point of panic. Gay, We're not really in
- 9:11Speaker 1: the crunch time of the game where you're gonna find
- 9:13Speaker 1: out like are you catching this, w you're catching this L.
- 9:15Speaker 1: We're gonna find out, Well, we have the two tickets
- 9:18Speaker 1: up there, and I'm kind of we're playing chess with
- 9:19Speaker 1: everybody else on board. You've got you have gotten that
- 9:21Speaker 1: part of the story. What I don't realize this flight
- 9:23Speaker 1: attendant seeing me and thinking to herself that she needs
- 9:25Speaker 1: to be the vigilane to stop this entire process from happening.
- 9:28Speaker 3: So what happens is trying to get She's trying to
- 9:30Speaker 3: get one up on all the and get one up
- 9:32Speaker 3: on us.
- 9:32Speaker 1: She realizes that, okay, she's identified us as the group
- 9:35Speaker 1: going to Vegas, the ones that are a little too
- 9:36Speaker 1: excited that early in the morning, and she wants to
- 9:38Speaker 1: put out that fire right and.
- 9:41Speaker 3: There's a whole bunch of us. We're talking.
- 9:42Speaker 1: I'm leaning forward, I'm looking to the right, I'm leaning
- 9:44Speaker 1: to my back like there's a whole bunch of talking.
- 9:46Speaker 3: A lot but a lot of head movement going on.
- 9:48Speaker 1: She leans over to me and says, sir, can you
- 9:50Speaker 1: uh move those tickets out the way so somebody can
- 9:52Speaker 1: sit there. I'm thinking, bro, these are some fucking tickets,
- 9:55Speaker 1: like well, and I go, yeah, no problem. So I
- 9:57Speaker 1: take the tickets and I put them in there.
- 10:00Speaker 3: What else?
- 10:00Speaker 1: I look at her and I go, I can understand
- 10:04Speaker 1: why that's a huge problem. I'll make sure to move
- 10:06Speaker 1: those out of the way, little fucking four little tickets,
- 10:09Speaker 1: And so I have That's probably the first point in
- 10:13Speaker 1: which I could have handled myself a little bit different.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Sure, ain't that yes, ma'am? No problem. Hit it with
- 10:17Speaker 3: a yes, ma'am and move on.
- 10:18Speaker 2: If you're her, you're like, all right, Ben, Yeah, yeah, she.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Dialed that in. Now what happens after this? She did
- 10:26Speaker 1: do a little bit more, looks can you say something
- 10:28Speaker 1: else to well? We'll find out at the end of
- 10:30Speaker 1: the story, Willy, We will find out the end of
- 10:31Speaker 1: the story. As people are coming down, this heavy set
- 10:34Speaker 1: black gentleman is walking down the aisle, she points. She goes, sir,
- 10:38Speaker 1: they're starting to fillip in the back. Why don't you
- 10:39Speaker 1: just go ahead and sit right here? Why don't you
- 10:41Speaker 1: just go and sit in this seat right here? Looking
- 10:43Speaker 1: in between me and Corey looking through me into the seat.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Go sir, why don't you just go ahead? This seats
- 10:48Speaker 1: open my hair? Go ahead. I take a quick peek
- 10:50Speaker 1: back right, I catch my six. I look back. Ben
- 10:54Speaker 1: Jones is doing the big elbows and he's got He's
- 10:56Speaker 1: in that two seat piece in the exit row. Here's
- 10:58Speaker 1: the two seat because the third heat's missing, so that
- 11:01Speaker 1: last row behind it, that person's lottle leg room. Nick
- 11:03Speaker 1: petite Ferrera took that he's a rookie. Is that okay
- 11:06Speaker 1: for him to do? I wouldn't say that, but I'm
- 11:08Speaker 1: not a guy to say, hey, rookie, get up, let
- 11:10Speaker 1: me sit there. Instead, I let him have it. He
- 11:12Speaker 1: wanted it, he got it. That is the way the
- 11:14Speaker 1: game is played. He won that battle. And I'm looking around, like, bro,
- 11:18Speaker 1: there's like three more aisles behind me with not only
- 11:20Speaker 1: middle seats, but aisle seats as well. Fucking aisle seats
- 11:24Speaker 1: are in this thing. People start to fill in. Everybody
- 11:28Speaker 1: sits down, She goes to leave. She is now walking
- 11:31Speaker 1: out of the row right next to me. She's walking out,
- 11:34Speaker 1: and I could have done nothing, but I look up
- 11:37Speaker 1: at her. I go, hey, I really appreciate you. Facilitating that.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Thank god, we got that done. She fucking looks at me.
- 11:44Speaker 3: You you got three big dudes, three big dudes in that row,
- 11:46Speaker 3: in that.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Row, bro, And then I'll get in more of the
- 11:49Speaker 1: flight because there was some shenanigans that went down later.
- 11:51Speaker 3: Well minutes in, like you know, yeah, yeah. She fucking
- 11:54Speaker 3: points at me.
- 11:55Speaker 1: She goes, sir, come here, gives me the finger, puts
- 11:57Speaker 1: it in my face like this, and goes, come here,
- 11:59Speaker 1: come with me to the back the plane. My first
- 12:01Speaker 1: thought was, bet, we're going to the back of the plate,
- 12:02Speaker 1: not the front of the lane. I'm not trying to
- 12:03Speaker 1: get keep off this plate. She takes me the back
- 12:06Speaker 1: of the plane and basically is like, why are you
- 12:09Speaker 1: being an asshole?
- 12:09Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, I was just kind of given.
- 12:12Speaker 1: What I was getting, like I I And then I
- 12:15Speaker 1: fucking did what every person should in this situation.
- 12:18Speaker 3: You said, we're gonna have a problem. We gonna have
- 12:20Speaker 3: a problem, We're gonna have a problem. And I tell
- 12:22Speaker 3: her I was just gonna I was just giving what
- 12:24Speaker 3: I was getting. Blah blah blah.
- 12:25Speaker 1: Bathrooms and I'm staying behind the bathrooms in a little whirling.
- 12:32Speaker 3: Giggling like he just got called the principal's office. Yeah exactly, Yeah.
- 12:36Speaker 1: I fucking I did what any individual should do in
- 12:39Speaker 1: that situation. I took that fucking tail so far between
- 12:41Speaker 1: my legs like it was it was touching my fucking belly.
- 12:44Speaker 1: But I apologized to her. I said, I'm really sorry.
- 12:47Speaker 1: And then she realizes that I am retracting everything. I
- 12:50Speaker 1: am moving back. I have literally waved that white flag,
- 12:52Speaker 1: and the game is over for me. She is now
- 12:55Speaker 1: turning her personality into Hey, listen, I'm from Chicago. I
- 12:58Speaker 1: have addressing to humor too. I take to myself that
- 13:00Speaker 1: ain't dry. You just mad?
- 13:03Speaker 3: Yeah, but you were.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Just you were mad at me for whatever reason from
- 13:07Speaker 1: the get go. From the get go, she made a
- 13:09Speaker 1: decision about us. Now the rest of the flight, sweetheart, Sweetheart,
- 13:13Speaker 1: During it, she says, I haven't got my coffee yet.
- 13:15Speaker 1: I see her about an hour later during the flight,
- 13:17Speaker 1: I go coffee. She smiles at me and says, yes,
- 13:19Speaker 1: every time she walks by, she's giving me a little
- 13:21Speaker 1: extra attention.
- 13:22Speaker 3: He can to get you into the coffee.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Are you're all right? Laughs at my bad jokes, and
- 13:25Speaker 1: she moves on. So we got through the flight.
- 13:27Speaker 3: Well.
- 13:28Speaker 1: The guy sitting next to me. He was chicken pecking
- 13:31Speaker 1: his way through South America. Dude, he was just bobbing
- 13:33Speaker 1: and weaving the whole fuck.
- 13:35Speaker 3: Up, putting his arm around on the end of like, yeah,
- 13:36Speaker 3: at we.
- 13:37Speaker 1: Have a little photo. I will send you guys a
- 13:38Speaker 1: photo so we can put it up on the YouTube.
- 13:40Speaker 1: But I go to the bathroom. At one point, that
- 13:42Speaker 1: motherfucker had all of my aisle, Like I was in
- 13:45Speaker 1: that corner like this dude sitting for like an hour
- 13:47Speaker 1: and a half, like it was tough. Well, we get
- 13:50Speaker 1: to Vegas, and I feel like Wily should take a
- 13:52Speaker 1: little bit more that because I have been talking for
- 13:53Speaker 1: a long time.
- 13:54Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying we should probably pace because we
- 13:56Speaker 2: still got to cover the NFL.
- 14:00Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we start going into the halls like, oh,
- 14:02Speaker 2: we're going, details, We're going.
- 14:04Speaker 3: Was an incredible time.
- 14:05Speaker 1: We had an amazing Some guys won, some guys lost,
- 14:08Speaker 1: and some guys in between. There were a couple of
- 14:10Speaker 1: big losers.
- 14:13Speaker 3: Three grand Yeah yeah, welly good fucking shit. The ball
- 14:18Speaker 3: to say what I lost, it's not important. What I
- 14:20Speaker 3: did do is I won in friendship. I had a
- 14:21Speaker 3: great weekend with my buddies.
- 14:23Speaker 2: But yes, the first day, bro, we get to the
- 14:26Speaker 2: we get to the hotel probably what.
- 14:27Speaker 3: Nine o'clock, yeah, nine fifteen later at.
- 14:29Speaker 2: Fifteen we're gambling early, gambling fast often early, drinking all
- 14:34Speaker 2: of it. We get in a little high limits room
- 14:37Speaker 2: just because the big dogs aren't there for the weekend yet,
- 14:39Speaker 2: they moved the minimum down to like one hundred dollars
- 14:41Speaker 2: a hand. By the weekend, they're saying there's five million
- 14:44Speaker 2: dollars buy ins and the minimums on the table like
- 14:46Speaker 2: five grand. Right, But we find us ourselves a nice
- 14:49Speaker 2: little corner and we get a little that we're flowing.
- 14:52Speaker 2: The energy is high. Hi, we realize we want to
- 14:54Speaker 2: take a break, go upstairs, Like.
- 14:55Speaker 3: We'll get a cigar down at three pm? Yeah, yeah,
- 14:57Speaker 3: cigar down early. What was that thing around? We're just
- 15:04Speaker 3: language and terminology the high point of the weekend, but.
- 15:07Speaker 2: We want to go upstairs for I guess just to
- 15:09Speaker 2: take a break and wait for somebody else.
- 15:13Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, power hour. Yeah, and like, hey, let's play
- 15:19Speaker 3: this game.
- 15:20Speaker 2: Lucy accy ac deocy a c deucy bro explain the p.
- 15:26Speaker 1: And quickly explain the details of the game. That's a
- 15:28Speaker 1: very simple game, all.
- 15:29Speaker 2: Right, So ac ac deucy say jack, we are playing,
- 15:34Speaker 2: and we put in a hundred dollar minimum. That's what
- 15:36Speaker 2: the minimum was, one hundred dollars, so we're throwing it
- 15:37Speaker 2: one hundred dollars. You put in you face up one card,
- 15:41Speaker 2: face up another card.
- 15:42Speaker 3: Say it's a four and a jack.
- 15:45Speaker 2: You either want to hit and play the game, meaning
- 15:48Speaker 2: you're thinking, the next card out of my hand is
- 15:50Speaker 2: going to be in between a four and a jack.
- 15:53Speaker 2: If you're like you would say pot, meaning you're betting
- 15:57Speaker 2: what's in the pot, you would say pot, I flip
- 16:00Speaker 2: up the card.
- 16:01Speaker 3: If you're within the jack and the four, you win
- 16:04Speaker 3: the pot.
- 16:05Speaker 2: If you're outside of the jack and four, it's just
- 16:07Speaker 2: outside of it, not jack or four.
- 16:09Speaker 3: Outside of those two cards, you lose. You would just you.
- 16:12Speaker 2: Would have to pay whatever you Yeah, if you bet
- 16:15Speaker 2: the pot, you have to pay what's in the pot.
- 16:18Speaker 2: So if it's five hundred dollars in the pot, you
- 16:19Speaker 2: gotta pay five hundred dollars in the pot. If you post,
- 16:23Speaker 2: meaning you hit the jack or the four, you have
- 16:25Speaker 2: to double the pot. I learned very quickly that this
- 16:29Speaker 2: is not gonna be the game that I want to
- 16:32Speaker 2: partake in. I think after three hands, I was like,
- 16:34Speaker 2: first two hands, it doesn't even get around to me.
- 16:36Speaker 2: I don't even get the guess right, Like somebody either
- 16:39Speaker 2: wins or somebody one right away, and I'm like, oh,
- 16:41Speaker 2: I just lost. I just lose my money gone. And
- 16:44Speaker 2: the next time I got to go, it's like I
- 16:46Speaker 2: got like a nine and a seven. So I didn't
- 16:47Speaker 2: get to Actually, I was like skip, because if you
- 16:49Speaker 2: don't want to bet, you just say skip. Money stays in,
- 16:52Speaker 2: it just goes to the next person. So, Bro, these
- 16:56Speaker 2: hands are massive. I'm talking stair typical. You want an
- 17:01Speaker 2: idea of NFL players gambling up in a hotel room,
- 17:05Speaker 2: this is it.
- 17:06Speaker 5: Bro.
- 17:06Speaker 1: You could literally there was so much money on the table.
- 17:08Speaker 1: At one point you could buy pay in full a
- 17:11Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Honda Civic. Yeah, there was a Honda
- 17:14Speaker 1: Civic on the table of money.
- 17:16Speaker 2: Now when it stopped, when there's there's stuff in between
- 17:19Speaker 2: that we can hit on too. Because Taylor, there was
- 17:20Speaker 2: a big one where I'm like one, I'm telling Taylor
- 17:22Speaker 2: and I'm.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Like no, right, because it was I think the number
- 17:26Speaker 1: was at eleven thousand and a half.
- 17:28Speaker 2: Okay, ten and a half was it ain't cash in
- 17:31Speaker 2: the fucking middle of the table, and I'm getting nervous,
- 17:34Speaker 2: and you can see it's one of those things where
- 17:36Speaker 2: if you lose your money, you're not losing it to
- 17:39Speaker 2: you're you're not losing it to the casino where it's like, fuck,
- 17:41Speaker 2: I bet ten grand and I lost it, Like that's
- 17:43Speaker 2: all on you for betting that kind of money. You
- 17:46Speaker 2: see your money go to your boy's hand and you're
- 17:49Speaker 2: just trying to like the guys are trying to barter
- 17:51Speaker 2: with each other, like trying to like, hey, help me out,
- 17:53Speaker 2: blah blah blah. You can see it's like getting I'm
- 17:55Speaker 2: sweating and uh, there's ten and a half in the middle.
- 18:01Speaker 3: And Taylor goes around.
- 18:02Speaker 2: Telling Taylor I go, hey, brother, I go, even if
- 18:04Speaker 2: it's an ACE two, you shouldn't do it.
- 18:07Speaker 1: And as he's saying that to me, it's my turn
- 18:09Speaker 1: on what pops up boys A two.
- 18:11Speaker 2: But he's kind of making this I know, but if
- 18:13Speaker 2: it happens, He's like, we won't know if until it
- 18:15Speaker 2: actually gets there. But I'm like, just the chances of
- 18:18Speaker 2: an ACE two hitting because as high too low, like
- 18:21Speaker 2: you're you're not guarante the odds are very much in
- 18:24Speaker 2: your favor.
- 18:25Speaker 3: So Taylor comes around, what shows an ACE and a two?
- 18:29Speaker 3: And I'm like that or ten thousan five hundred dollars
- 18:33Speaker 3: four cards left?
- 18:34Speaker 1: Now that I did not know that at first, it's
- 18:37Speaker 1: right away, I go pot and whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa?
- 18:40Speaker 3: Just wait? Did you say pot? Yes? I go fucking pot? Yeah,
- 18:42Speaker 3: And I was like no, no, no, no, no, no, just wait.
- 18:44Speaker 2: I was like I cannot Like. I was like, Taylor,
- 18:47Speaker 2: what if an ACE or two happens, you have to
- 18:50Speaker 2: pay not only the pot because you can't just miss
- 18:53Speaker 2: you either post. You're paying twenty one thousand dollars to
- 18:56Speaker 2: the middle one twenty one grand.
- 18:59Speaker 3: I would have to twenty one extra grade in there.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Right, ten and a half times to twenty one grand.
- 19:03Speaker 2: He would have to put twenty one grand if he
- 19:05Speaker 2: happened to Post. I'm like, I get that the odds
- 19:07Speaker 2: are really in your favor, but if for whatever fucking reason,
- 19:11Speaker 2: it's an ACE or two, you gotta spend twenty one grand.
- 19:13Speaker 3: It's the afternoon on day one.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Day one, Like it's one pm. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
- 19:20Speaker 1: fucking one PM outside.
- 19:21Speaker 2: I told Taling, like, if you want to do it,
- 19:23Speaker 2: like everybody's kind of like, you know you you don't
- 19:26Speaker 2: have to say pot. You can say I'll bet a
- 19:28Speaker 2: thousand to the towards the pot. So if you win,
- 19:30Speaker 2: you only win a thousand. If you lose, you pay
- 19:32Speaker 2: a thousand or.
- 19:32Speaker 3: Two thousand if you post. I Will and I are
- 19:35Speaker 3: a legit.
- 19:36Speaker 1: Now Will has taken me like a parent parental figure
- 19:38Speaker 1: and brought me over to the corner of the room
- 19:40Speaker 1: to give me a stern conversation about what could and
- 19:42Speaker 1: could not happen.
- 19:44Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we the second walk. I got that. Yeah,
- 19:47Speaker 3: I got taken.
- 19:48Speaker 1: For a walk by Will. Will goes Bro says the
- 19:51Speaker 1: whole conversation. He just said to me, I look over,
- 19:54Speaker 1: I go, hey, how many cards are left? They said four. Now,
- 19:57Speaker 1: while everyone's arguing, because everyone is once the money is
- 20:00Speaker 1: getting this high, everyone's arguing about what I should do
- 20:03Speaker 1: in this situation. While people are arguing, I do the
- 20:06Speaker 1: number one thing you shouldn't do when you're playing cards,
- 20:08Speaker 1: Taylor tries looking for I started moving the cards out
- 20:11Speaker 1: of the way to see how many aces, how many
- 20:12Speaker 1: two's I can see?
- 20:14Speaker 3: I saw one ace and one, two, so four cards.
- 20:17Speaker 2: But right when he touches, everybody's kind of like, oh,
- 20:19Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like, hey, you can't do that.
- 20:21Speaker 3: I'm on Taylor's side, but I'm like, you can't. I know,
- 20:23Speaker 3: and that is fair, that is that is a fair
- 20:25Speaker 3: thing you did.
- 20:26Speaker 1: But I really in that position, it was like, I
- 20:28Speaker 1: don't give a fuck how people view me.
- 20:29Speaker 3: I need to make sure I'm.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Bro like, but that's how high them, that's how high
- 20:33Speaker 2: this game was getting.
- 20:34Speaker 3: So in like what do you have there?
- 20:36Speaker 2: And like, let's just say Taylor had like five grand,
- 20:38Speaker 2: He's like, you can do half of that, just bet it.
- 20:40Speaker 2: So then if you lose, you just pay what you
- 20:42Speaker 2: have available. Because some people are having a start, you
- 20:45Speaker 2: get to where it's like it's not even there money,
- 20:47Speaker 2: the cash.
- 20:47Speaker 3: Isn't even there anymore.
- 20:48Speaker 2: You got a venmo at this point, right, you're in
- 20:50Speaker 2: the digital it's in the air.
- 20:52Speaker 3: And so Taylor ends up betting it. What flips over
- 20:55Speaker 3: to A two?
- 20:57Speaker 2: A fucking two, And I'm like, bro, Fortunately he had
- 21:01Speaker 2: whatever he had bet at that.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Moment, so all my money was now, all this money
- 21:05Speaker 1: was gone, My cash was gone.
- 21:07Speaker 3: His cash.
- 21:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I had other ways of getting getting money with
- 21:10Speaker 1: the casino.
- 21:11Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, we'll be all right.
- 21:12Speaker 3: And then I think it's a big one on like
- 21:15Speaker 3: a King three.
- 21:16Speaker 1: Hey, let's not say too many names. Now, pot gets
- 21:18Speaker 1: up to seventeen thousand dollars.
- 21:20Speaker 2: And someone pots it because it was age three, age.
- 21:25Speaker 3: Four, it was King three.
- 21:27Speaker 1: I think it was King three pots it.
- 21:30Speaker 2: It hits a you know it posts or a King
- 21:34Speaker 2: thirty two or thirty four grand to the middle. That's
- 21:38Speaker 2: when everybody was kind of like, all right, this has
- 21:40Speaker 2: gotten out of hand. We should figure out a way
- 21:43Speaker 2: to stop this.
- 21:44Speaker 1: Right.
- 21:44Speaker 2: So people ended up kind of getting some of their money.
- 21:47Speaker 2: People got most of their money back, and whoever played
- 21:49Speaker 2: the best game got a little bit more on top.
- 21:51Speaker 1: But I'm telling you bullshit, but that's not We're not
- 21:53Speaker 1: it's not worth going into right now.
- 21:54Speaker 3: Yeah, you got your you got your kid, you got
- 21:56Speaker 3: got my money back.
- 21:57Speaker 1: I got I basically got my money back, which I'm
- 21:59Speaker 1: very great before.
- 22:00Speaker 3: So but that was fucking nuts. Bro.
- 22:04Speaker 2: I'm talking and I'm sitting there looking at like JP
- 22:07Speaker 2: and Mitch, like I don't even know what these guys
- 22:10Speaker 2: are thinking. They're thinking, they're thinking all their things that
- 22:12Speaker 2: they could probably do and buy and live for like
- 22:15Speaker 2: years off of ye.
- 22:16Speaker 1: At one point, Mitch goes, hey, that's a year's worth
- 22:18Speaker 1: of rent just sitting there right now. Yeah, yes, crazy,
- 22:21Speaker 1: were you about to say that?
- 22:22Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 22:22Speaker 6: I was like, that's five months rent. Oh God on
- 22:26Speaker 6: the table and you guys are just throwing it around
- 22:28Speaker 6: like it's nothing, and I'm r I was sweating for
- 22:32Speaker 6: you guys, and I had nothing to do with what.
- 22:35Speaker 3: Was going on the way. It was wild, bro.
- 22:37Speaker 6: It was the most money I've ever seen in my
- 22:39Speaker 6: entire life.
- 22:40Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:40Speaker 2: We we were down on the tables once and we
- 22:42Speaker 2: asked this the dealer, like, what's the most money you've seen.
- 22:45Speaker 3: Lost in one of these casually?
- 22:49Speaker 2: She says eighty seven million dollars on one hand in
- 22:53Speaker 2: blackjack one hand. And she says, also the highest I've
- 22:55Speaker 2: ever seen one was the same guy in the same
- 22:57Speaker 2: sitting one hundred and twenty seven million, Bro, how do you?
- 23:02Speaker 3: How do you? Fucking?
- 23:04Speaker 1: And I hope she was lying for theatrical purposes, like
- 23:07Speaker 1: low key shoot that maybe the story will get out there.
- 23:11Speaker 3: I know that's nothing to them, that would be nothing.
- 23:14Speaker 3: That's what's crazy about the whole thing.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Crazy dude, that night, things went really well. This gentleman
- 23:19Speaker 1: named Marty in the high roller table he was leaving.
- 23:21Speaker 1: We've had plenty of drinks by this point, we're hugging
- 23:23Speaker 1: Marty and his juju, and that hug gave us we
- 23:28Speaker 1: We got a dub night one at the Aria, we
- 23:30Speaker 1: got a big dub.
- 23:31Speaker 3: All of us.
- 23:32Speaker 1: Everybody won big except for one individual who we will
- 23:34Speaker 1: not name at this point. They lost pretty bad, but
- 23:37Speaker 1: it was an incredible It was an incredible time.
- 23:39Speaker 3: The next two days we did pods.
- 23:40Speaker 1: It was amazing, maybe the best pods Will and I
- 23:45Speaker 1: have facilitated.
- 23:47Speaker 3: I think we both did a very good job.
- 23:49Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, Yeah, it was fucking They were also
- 23:52Speaker 1: hear them, They're gonna be awesome. Now I get home Sunday.
- 23:55Speaker 1: Obviously the Saturday game has already played. Jacksonville lost. We
- 24:00Speaker 1: I mean, we all kind of thought that could happen.
- 24:02Speaker 1: They put up a good fight. They had a phenomenal season.
- 24:04Speaker 1: I'm sure Jacksonville is on the up and up. A
- 24:06Speaker 1: lot of people are using the phrase changing of the
- 24:07Speaker 1: guard in the AFC south of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I
- 24:10Speaker 1: hope that's not true, because obviously your boys a Titan
- 24:13Speaker 1: for life. But at the same time, like if that
- 24:15Speaker 1: is like if I'm a Duvall fan, I am extremely
- 24:19Speaker 1: happy about all the turmoil that they have gone through
- 24:22Speaker 1: and now are Lawrence is starting to play, He's started
- 24:25Speaker 1: to play ball, started to play ball to life.
- 24:27Speaker 3: They lose who What's the night game?
- 24:29Speaker 1: Was it?
- 24:29Speaker 3: Eagles Giants?
- 24:31Speaker 1: I mean, I thought Jalen Hurts would be a little
- 24:34Speaker 1: rusty coming off being injured and stuff like that, but
- 24:36Speaker 1: they fucking I forgot how good.
- 24:38Speaker 2: The Eagles And without asking, Yeah, I forgot how good
- 24:40Speaker 2: the Eagles were.
- 24:41Speaker 3: It's like they are dominant, they are like that in
- 24:44Speaker 3: the trenches.
- 24:44Speaker 1: Juligit really did forget who they were. Like as far
- 24:46Speaker 1: as how good they are across the.
- 24:48Speaker 3: Board, they didn't have it.
- 24:48Speaker 2: I don't think they really had the primetime games like that,
- 24:50Speaker 2: or if they did, it was like Jalen wasn't in.
- 24:52Speaker 3: It was Gardner Minshew.
- 24:53Speaker 2: And then they had the bye week, so you kind
- 24:55Speaker 2: of again kind of forget for a sake, and then
- 24:56Speaker 2: you're like, are they going to seem like the Baltimore
- 24:58Speaker 2: Ravens in twenty nineteen coming off the bye week? But bro,
- 25:01Speaker 2: they are fucking Juggernauts. Dude, the Niners are gonna have
- 25:05Speaker 2: their hands full big time, especially after the way they
- 25:08Speaker 2: played the Cowboys, because I don't Cowboys didn't play that well.
- 25:12Speaker 1: No they didn't, but I would say that, like we
- 25:14Speaker 1: said this before in the last part, the Eagles and
- 25:17Speaker 1: the Niners are the two best put together teams in
- 25:21Speaker 1: the NFL, and I think, but I think the big
- 25:23Speaker 1: difference is going to be the quarterback and that's gonna be.
- 25:26Speaker 3: A big difference.
- 25:26Speaker 1: And I hate Yeah, I don't know if you want
- 25:28Speaker 1: to put out who's gonna win that now, but I'm
- 25:29Speaker 1: really ready to say mine.
- 25:31Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's gonna be tough, man. I think
- 25:33Speaker 3: it's gonna be hard.
- 25:34Speaker 2: I'm going back and forth just because we got bet
- 25:36Speaker 2: the bus this week and I'm really, like I've said,
- 25:38Speaker 2: Niners are winning the Super Bowl for the last couple
- 25:39Speaker 2: of weeks now, and after watching this past weekend, it's like, fuck,
- 25:42Speaker 2: the Eagles are tough.
- 25:46Speaker 3: They're tough. Bro.
- 25:47Speaker 7: That release is gonna be dicey too, with only two
- 25:50Speaker 7: games on the board, right, two.
- 25:51Speaker 3: Games of the board and probably double the money then,
- 25:54Speaker 3: so du.
- 25:54Speaker 2: Bro, because we went too and two I think on
- 25:57Speaker 2: the if you just go by games like I was.
- 26:00Speaker 2: The parlay parlays fucking just killed me, dude. I chase
- 26:02Speaker 2: them all, I chase all the parlay Let me just
- 26:05Speaker 2: have one more leg here. Oh that looks good.
- 26:09Speaker 1: And you're saying all conservative bets you made this weekend.
- 26:12Speaker 1: Do what A couple of your parlays were very conservative,
- 26:15Speaker 1: like oh, these you even put the meter down.
- 26:16Speaker 2: To the point, I like moved the line on. I
- 26:19Speaker 2: just did like the Niners money line. I did the
- 26:21Speaker 2: over under. I moved it down like forty and the
- 26:24Speaker 2: Niners to score twenty four points, and they fucking.
- 26:27Speaker 3: They don't do it right, they don't do it.
- 26:30Speaker 2: And again I feel like they just missed out, Like dude,
- 26:33Speaker 2: the situational awareness by the Dallas Cowboys.
- 26:36Speaker 3: Both teams honestly were playing really bad ball at the
- 26:39Speaker 3: end of the game. Yeah, because who was Mitchell Mitchell?
- 26:41Speaker 1: Mitchell, Well get the first down and runs out of bounds, Like, bro,
- 26:44Speaker 1: you have to make a hard left turn in that
- 26:46Speaker 1: situation and just go down. Yeah, you don't need yards
- 26:49Speaker 1: at that point. You need to suck up time.
- 26:51Speaker 2: I always wanting a touchdown because they were at nineteen points.
- 26:53Speaker 2: I wanted somebody to break one and get up. Yeah.
- 26:55Speaker 1: Yeahs Derek Henry run away for me exactly, and that
- 26:59Speaker 1: likely if I'm I'm Ezekiel Elliott, I am blaming Mitchell
- 27:03Speaker 1: for that because if they would have done that, the
- 27:04Speaker 1: game would have been over and they would have never
- 27:05Speaker 1: been in that position to that dumb ass play they
- 27:07Speaker 1: did before.
- 27:08Speaker 3: Bro, how about that last play of the game, Like,
- 27:09Speaker 3: what were you thinking?
- 27:11Speaker 1: I was thinking, everybody has this play. Everybody has like
- 27:14Speaker 1: we used to call it Cheetah when kesin Ken wiz
- 27:17Speaker 1: Hunt was in where you would literally be like all
- 27:19Speaker 1: the offense linemen off the field except for the center
- 27:22Speaker 1: because the center would snap the ball and then it's
- 27:25Speaker 1: basically just playing backyard football. Lateral pass is only hoping
- 27:28Speaker 1: to God like it's it's your hail Mary attempts when
- 27:30Speaker 1: you're out of a hail Mary range. Now, Guy, when
- 27:34Speaker 1: I saw Zeke do that, how legit just felt bad
- 27:36Speaker 1: for him. Hands were outside, he had not a lot
- 27:39Speaker 1: of need. Ben like that's bad all.
- 27:42Speaker 3: You know, thinking this is gonna be fucking horrendous. No,
- 27:46Speaker 3: I think the the opposite.
- 27:48Speaker 1: I think when they put that play in probably week
- 27:50Speaker 1: two of the season, maybe even during camp and you
- 27:52Speaker 1: going over situational stuff on Saturdays. Zeke gets like, hey, Zeke,
- 27:55Speaker 1: you're gonna snap and he's probably bragging the boys. Like, man,
- 27:58Speaker 1: I watched this ship and he's snapping and it's hitting
- 28:01Speaker 1: Dak right in the chest. He goes, man, anybody can
- 28:02Speaker 1: do this, Like he's literally probably bragging the guys. Now
- 28:06Speaker 1: situation comes up and my man gets his hands hands
- 28:09Speaker 1: put on him.
- 28:10Speaker 3: I saw that happen. I go, this play is fucking dead.
- 28:12Speaker 1: The minute I saw a Zeke start stumbling to the ground, go,
- 28:15Speaker 1: this is It's over. And then Dak throws the ball.
- 28:19Speaker 1: He throws a fucking muffin to Buddy and he gets
- 28:23Speaker 1: his ass fucking smelling. I'm like, what a stupid fucking play. Yes,
- 28:27Speaker 1: the only worst play I've ever seen in that is
- 28:29Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts on that on that uh fake punt.
- 28:32Speaker 3: But yeah against the Patriots.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Now, Pat McAfee has come out and said they weren't
- 28:36Speaker 1: supposed to snap the ball in that situation. If we're
- 28:38Speaker 1: going to believe Pat in that type of situation, then
- 28:40Speaker 1: that is the worst football player I've ever seen. That
- 28:42Speaker 1: shit is. That shit was so embarrassingly terrible, and I
- 28:46Speaker 1: can't imagine they hate right now.
- 28:47Speaker 3: I know Stephen A.
- 28:49Speaker 1: Smith, him and his hairline were fucking laughing their ass
- 28:52Speaker 1: off at Dak Prescott because they hate the cowboys, him
- 28:55Speaker 1: and his hair.
- 28:56Speaker 2: It's like, basically like people are saying like a legacy game,
- 28:58Speaker 2: like yeah, you know, how's that gonna?
- 29:00Speaker 3: I kept saying it on.
- 29:01Speaker 1: The broadcast, so like, hey, things are shaping up exactly
- 29:04Speaker 1: like last year's game. Things are shaping up for Dak
- 29:06Speaker 1: Prescott to have his statement game that he's gonna do X,
- 29:08Speaker 1: Y and Z, and he just couldn't put together. I
- 29:10Speaker 1: can't play quarterbacks. I have no room to throw shade.
- 29:13Speaker 1: But the ship looked bad. And also another person to
- 29:16Speaker 1: blame is that fucking tight end casually catching the ball
- 29:20Speaker 1: and just stepping out. Buddy, this ain't college. You gotta
- 29:22Speaker 1: put both of them little boys in the ground before
- 29:24Speaker 1: you hit the white paint.
- 29:25Speaker 2: You try to make sure you get four steps in,
- 29:27Speaker 2: like you don't just think, oh.
- 29:30Speaker 1: Yeah, just go to the ground, put them bitches in
- 29:32Speaker 1: and fucking fall in the pocket.
- 29:33Speaker 2: Running because he look he was casually going out of
- 29:36Speaker 2: bounds and then just kind of walked versus like fighting
- 29:39Speaker 2: forward to get.
- 29:39Speaker 1: Out of them and brock Perty had another bad play
- 29:41Speaker 1: too at the end of half was it the end
- 29:44Speaker 1: half of the uh? Was it? I can't really remember,
- 29:48Speaker 1: but I remember it was like it was the end
- 29:50Speaker 1: of a half and there was like eight seconds left
- 29:52Speaker 1: and he looks and look and goes to his like
- 29:55Speaker 1: third third or fourth read.
- 29:57Speaker 3: It's like bro out of the Yeah, before the you
- 30:00Speaker 3: have enough time. They almost they almost lost that.
- 30:02Speaker 2: I mean, big work day for Madden ratings people. Yeah,
- 30:08Speaker 2: the awareness and bring those awareness ratings down on some
- 30:11Speaker 2: of those guys.
- 30:11Speaker 3: That ship is bad.
- 30:12Speaker 1: Bro the Shultz that was that's just really bad ball
- 30:15Speaker 1: of Mitchell. It was a mistake that a lot of
- 30:17Speaker 1: people have made in the past, but you would think
- 30:19Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan goes over that ship every single week. And
- 30:21Speaker 1: you got to know four minute like no penalties if
- 30:24Speaker 1: you there's no holding in four minute like if you hold,
- 30:26Speaker 1: you get beat for a TfL.
- 30:27Speaker 3: That's better than a hold.
- 30:28Speaker 1: There's no penalties, stay in bounds and if you're injured
- 30:30Speaker 1: unless it's like broken, you have to get.
- 30:32Speaker 3: Off the field, like unless you're dying.
- 30:35Speaker 1: And that happened in two minutes for the Cowboys as well.
- 30:40Speaker 1: They're going into half and they were throwing the ball
- 30:42Speaker 1: and Paulard gets a high ankle. Spring hinkle, Spring's hurt.
- 30:45Speaker 1: I've had them.
- 30:46Speaker 3: That shit sucks.
- 30:47Speaker 1: But you gotta hobble your way off that field to
- 30:49Speaker 1: keep that the clock running or I'm sorry, you have
- 30:53Speaker 1: to hobl off the field so they can either clock
- 30:55Speaker 1: it or go because they had to burn a time
- 30:56Speaker 1: out in that situation. Yeah, that's just that's just tough.
- 31:00Speaker 1: That is a tough, tough deal.
- 31:01Speaker 3: What then you go to the What's up? No go ahead?
- 31:04Speaker 2: I was gonna say, then you go to the AFC,
- 31:05Speaker 2: the Bill's Bengals. Yeah, Joe Burrow's fucking I don't know why.
- 31:10Speaker 2: I always feel like I end up just not thinking
- 31:12Speaker 2: about the Bengals. But the last couple of years now,
- 31:15Speaker 2: like Joe Burrow is the fucking man bro.
- 31:18Speaker 1: And it's it's it's sad if you're a Josh Allen fan,
- 31:22Speaker 1: because before this season, in the middle of the season,
- 31:24Speaker 1: it was Patrick Mahomes Josh Allen one A one B,
- 31:28Speaker 1: Like those are the two dudes in the AFC, and
- 31:30Speaker 1: everyone's kind of like, hey, Joe Burrow is a fucking stud, Like,
- 31:32Speaker 1: don't get a twisted my man can sing that thing,
- 31:36Speaker 1: he can rip that thing. He can rip that thing
- 31:39Speaker 1: all over the yard. The only situation is is like
- 31:41Speaker 1: these are these these are the two studs. That is
- 31:43Speaker 1: what it is. Josh ends up declining late in the season,
- 31:45Speaker 1: a lot of turnovers, he wasn't thrown as well. He's
- 31:48Speaker 1: got an elite skill set that a lot of guys
- 31:50Speaker 1: don't have, using his legs in certain situations. But now,
- 31:54Speaker 1: after the game yesterday, you kind of sit there and
- 31:56Speaker 1: if you were to go one, two, three, right now,
- 31:58Speaker 1: it's Mahomes, Burrow, Allen. If you're going to rank those
- 32:02Speaker 1: quarterbacks just based off of this last game.
- 32:04Speaker 3: My question is, do you think Joe Burrow becomes number
- 32:07Speaker 3: one if.
- 32:07Speaker 1: He gets a Super Bowl this year? It's hard to say.
- 32:11Speaker 1: I mean, yes, right, Mahomes is only on one.
- 32:14Speaker 2: I would think, so he went to the Super Bowl
- 32:15Speaker 2: last two years and if he wins it this.
- 32:17Speaker 1: Year, yeah, But the argument is, Mahomes has been in
- 32:20Speaker 1: the Super Bowl it seems like every year. And I
- 32:22Speaker 1: know that's a skewed number, right, They've lost the AFC Championship,
- 32:25Speaker 1: they've lost in the Super Bowl.
- 32:26Speaker 3: But I feel like, but if jot that.
- 32:28Speaker 2: Joe wins this weekend. He will have beat the Chiefs
- 32:30Speaker 2: the last four games in.
- 32:31Speaker 1: A row, four games in a row, And I honestly
- 32:34Speaker 1: believe with a with a Patrick Mahomes ankle, you got
- 32:37Speaker 1: to lean towards the Bengals.
- 32:38Speaker 2: I think the Bengals are winning it. I think the
- 32:40Speaker 2: Bengals are winning this weekend because I really think, like,
- 32:42Speaker 2: I know, Pat's going to be a badass and be
- 32:44Speaker 2: out there and player do everything possible to play up.
- 32:47Speaker 2: But I just think coming off of a high angle spring,
- 32:49Speaker 2: I mean you you know how high englesprings are.
- 32:51Speaker 3: Some guys might miss up to six weeks with a high.
- 32:53Speaker 1: Offering, Dude, High gol springs suck, and you can only
- 32:56Speaker 1: like you legit make it worse for you playoff it.
- 32:57Speaker 2: Yeah, like he played on it because you got the
- 33:00Speaker 2: only going. You know, he took a tourd all shot
- 33:01Speaker 2: in the locker room like you're doing all these things. Yeah,
- 33:04Speaker 2: the next two days, bro, you probably feel like your
- 33:06Speaker 2: leg is broken with the hankles brings.
- 33:08Speaker 3: He's probably in a boot right now.
- 33:09Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably in a boot right now, and he
- 33:10Speaker 1: still grimaces when he walks in a boot.
- 33:12Speaker 2: Thinking to myself, how in the fuck Am I about
- 33:14Speaker 2: to make this happen this week?
- 33:15Speaker 3: Right now? You know he's going to do anything possible
- 33:18Speaker 3: to shoot that shit out. That thing's going to be
- 33:19Speaker 3: taped to the nines. He is going to do whatever
- 33:21Speaker 3: it takes.
- 33:22Speaker 1: Now, on the flip side of saying, Joe Burrow, if
- 33:25Speaker 1: he wins, he's like the number one quarterback. If Pat
- 33:28Speaker 1: Mahomes takes this team with the Super Bowl and wins
- 33:29Speaker 1: the super Bowl with.
- 33:30Speaker 3: That ankle, go go, this generation's j You just that
- 33:37Speaker 3: they'll win real fast, buddy.
- 33:39Speaker 1: But this generation's quarterbacks, which are an incredible group of
- 33:43Speaker 1: quarterbacks right the three we've already mentioned. Lamar Jackson's in
- 33:45Speaker 1: there for Lawrence is now coming along like there is
- 33:49Speaker 1: a crazy amount of talent at the quarterback position in
- 33:51Speaker 1: the NFL right now at a very young age. He
- 33:54Speaker 1: goes and takes them boys to the super Bowl and
- 33:55Speaker 1: wins the super.
- 33:56Speaker 3: Bowl on that ankle.
- 33:57Speaker 1: Yeah, he is go to to that generation. Generation of
- 34:00Speaker 1: that generation, dude, Yeah, agree with that. It is fucking cool. Now.
- 34:05Speaker 2: I do think the I think the Bengals are gonna
- 34:08Speaker 2: I think the Bengals are winning fairly easy.
- 34:11Speaker 1: Oh, it seems like the Bengals do a great job
- 34:14Speaker 1: on defense.
- 34:15Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
- 34:16Speaker 2: And I feel like they'll get after I feel they'll
- 34:18Speaker 2: get after Pad a little bit.
- 34:19Speaker 1: Kansas City is like the Big twelve.
- 34:20Speaker 3: Dude.
- 34:20Speaker 1: They air rate that thing out, but for whatever reason,
- 34:23Speaker 1: like they'll go shot for shot in games with other
- 34:25Speaker 1: teamscuse their defense. I can't get it done. And I
- 34:27Speaker 1: don't know that that probably hurt to hear from camp.
- 34:29Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't feel like they got an O
- 34:30Speaker 2: line like that that's gonna protect him because also the
- 34:33Speaker 2: high angles praying and it is right ankle, that's.
- 34:35Speaker 1: His back foot. Yeah, I think I think it's his
- 34:37Speaker 1: right ankle. It is all right.
- 34:39Speaker 2: I think the Bengals see blood in the water and
- 34:42Speaker 2: it's going to be a long day for the Kanca Chiefs.
- 34:45Speaker 3: That's what I think. Wow, that's what That's what I think.
- 34:48Speaker 1: What's the funny You're undecided on on uh San Francisco
- 34:51Speaker 1: and Eagles, which is fair, I am right now you're
- 34:54Speaker 1: willing to stamp it well.
- 34:55Speaker 3: You and the Chiefs have got a weird fucking deal
- 34:57Speaker 3: going bro.
- 34:58Speaker 2: And I know that's that's what peop might think. But
- 35:01Speaker 2: also if you look at what's what just unfolded over
- 35:04Speaker 2: the weekend.
- 35:05Speaker 3: I think that's a fair thing to say, right, but
- 35:08Speaker 3: you can't cannot Pat Mahomes.
- 35:09Speaker 1: That dude was literally jumping in the air just to
- 35:11Speaker 1: throw a little little toss over to Travis Kelcey.
- 35:13Speaker 3: He was doing some things even then. Now I'm counting Chad.
- 35:17Speaker 1: Is it Chad Henny Michigan legend takes him on a
- 35:20Speaker 1: ninety eight yard fucking drive, does an incredible job. Dice
- 35:23Speaker 1: is the boys up like it's no big deal at all.
- 35:25Speaker 1: Was literally out there being a field general, crushing it
- 35:28Speaker 1: for the boys. You put him in the game. He's
- 35:31Speaker 1: a stud too. Now they have fucking they have an
- 35:33Speaker 1: elite offense. I don't know what their defense is statistically,
- 35:36Speaker 1: but it really seems to me like they're obviously the
- 35:39Speaker 1: lacking piece that needs to figure it out, which is Chiefs. Yeah,
- 35:42Speaker 1: because they have Frank Cark, they got Chris Jones like
- 35:44Speaker 1: they have. They have an elite front that is scary
- 35:46Speaker 1: to play against.
- 35:47Speaker 3: But Joe Burr's about to get nasty on them. Boy,
- 35:50Speaker 3: he was about to get nasty. Joe is Joe cool?
- 35:52Speaker 1: Dude? The fucking we were talking about this when we
- 35:54Speaker 1: were working out this morning. That slow mo video in
- 35:57Speaker 1: the snow where Joe fucking rips that thing and it
- 35:59Speaker 1: hits us spinny hits a three sixty piece and then
- 36:03Speaker 1: the receiver is not even in the fucking screen at
- 36:05Speaker 1: that point. So he's like, Yo, where's where's he shipping
- 36:08Speaker 1: off this rocket to He shifts that rocket off to
- 36:10Speaker 1: the left side. He just does a cool little spin
- 36:13Speaker 1: arms flop it in the air like Gumby, and all
- 36:15Speaker 1: of a sudden, that little thing just places it perfectly
- 36:17Speaker 1: that wide receiver. It's incredible at this.
- 36:20Speaker 3: He's just so fucking that is just like cool, that
- 36:24Speaker 3: is cool.
- 36:25Speaker 1: Before Joe Burrow got to the Bengals, I don't care
- 36:27Speaker 1: who you are, don't even care if you're a Bengals fan.
- 36:29Speaker 1: You look at those helmets of that uniform and that team,
- 36:31Speaker 1: he'd be like, man, they fucking suck. Joe Burrow makes
- 36:34Speaker 1: that shit cool as hell.
- 36:35Speaker 2: I don't know shot Shadow Josko. Back when he was
- 36:37Speaker 2: playing the they had a couple of twelve and four seasons.
- 36:39Speaker 1: They was nice Adie Dollond Dude, the red rocket was
- 36:42Speaker 1: this Palmer, Yeah, Carson Palmer, I mean, but still like
- 36:45Speaker 1: they would never like a team. He'd be like, Oh,
- 36:47Speaker 1: we got to watch out for them. Joe Burrow is
- 36:49Speaker 1: legit making them super Bowl contenders a year like he said,
- 36:53Speaker 1: his year and a year out now right.
- 36:54Speaker 3: He said, as long as he's there, they will always
- 36:57Speaker 3: have a shot out.
- 36:57Speaker 1: What they were talking about the AFC Championship game in Atlanta,
- 37:00Speaker 1: say go ahead and get those refunds Boston.
- 37:01Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they win by double digits.
- 37:04Speaker 1: Oh, it's getting stronger. I don't know about double Diggi's
- 37:08Speaker 1: on me. I don't know about double duty's, but I do.
- 37:11Speaker 1: I think right now, if you're just looking at the game,
- 37:13Speaker 1: this is a Monday, this comes out on Tuesday. You
- 37:15Speaker 1: gotta look at and say, you have no idea how
- 37:17Speaker 1: pass feeling. He can shoot up all the things in
- 37:19Speaker 1: the world, all the turtle in the world.
- 37:20Speaker 3: He can literally numb the ankle. It's still gonna fucking hurt, dude.
- 37:23Speaker 1: I'm picking the Bengals, not by double digits, but I'm
- 37:26Speaker 1: picking the Bengals in that game.
- 37:27Speaker 3: What do you think, Jack, You're back there like laughing.
- 37:29Speaker 7: No, I was laughing just because you have a vendetta
- 37:31Speaker 7: against He really does bro.
- 37:33Speaker 2: Which is tough, which is tough too, because you know,
- 37:36Speaker 2: obviously Nebraska fans are tuned into listening to Matt Rupot
- 37:39Speaker 2: and Nebraska loves their chiefs too, because that's like the
- 37:41Speaker 2: closest pro team.
- 37:42Speaker 7: No, I think I think the Bengals are gonna win.
- 37:44Speaker 2: I think they're going.
- 37:45Speaker 3: Back to Super Bowl. It's the Eagles forty nine Ers
- 37:48Speaker 3: game is the toss up to me.
- 37:49Speaker 7: But I I want to see the forty nine ers
- 37:52Speaker 7: in it, especially for our benefit once we're out in
- 37:55Speaker 7: AZ for the Super Bowl, because like we have a
- 37:57Speaker 7: lot more connections with the forty nine ers. But I
- 38:00Speaker 7: don't see the Eagles letting up after this past game.
- 38:04Speaker 7: It's tough to say that the forty nine ers gonna
- 38:06Speaker 7: be able to handle them. But that's the game I'm
- 38:08Speaker 7: looking forward to.
- 38:09Speaker 3: I think most yeah, that one O. That game is
- 38:11Speaker 3: going to be elite. Dude, it really is. Both games.
- 38:13Speaker 1: I'm legitimately excited to watch football this weekend.
- 38:16Speaker 3: It's gonna be incredible.
- 38:17Speaker 1: One thing to mention on the Buffalo Bill side, man,
- 38:20Speaker 1: is what a fucking story that would have been if
- 38:23Speaker 1: they were able to pull it out against the Bengals
- 38:25Speaker 1: and go win the Super Bowl.
- 38:26Speaker 3: The Damar Hamlin University. He was there. There was a
- 38:29Speaker 3: hilarious picture by the way that.
- 38:31Speaker 7: The guys seen, though the conspiracy theories going around that
- 38:34Speaker 7: that wasn't even Damar Hamlin at the game because they didn't.
- 38:37Speaker 7: They don't show his face one time on the broadcast too,
- 38:41Speaker 7: So there's something there. I'm not saying that's my conspiracy.
- 38:44Speaker 3: You are the one saying it right now.
- 38:45Speaker 1: The internet is go look it up.
- 38:47Speaker 7: There's a lot of people out there bugging about the
- 38:49Speaker 7: DeMar Hamlin was not actually at that game and they
- 38:52Speaker 7: had someone just dressed up as him as a way
- 38:54Speaker 7: to get the fans ready, because you they had him
- 38:57Speaker 7: on the broadcast the whole time and he's complete letely
- 39:00Speaker 7: put it up, covered face toe, like you don't see hands,
- 39:05Speaker 7: you don't see anything.
- 39:07Speaker 3: Just something to think about. I think I want to
- 39:09Speaker 3: buy that stock too, Do you really? I think?
- 39:11Speaker 6: So?
- 39:11Speaker 3: What do you think tomorrow is?
- 39:12Speaker 1: Then?
- 39:13Speaker 3: I don't know. The rabbit hole goes deep and.
- 39:18Speaker 2: We all know, like before the game they were talking
- 39:19Speaker 2: about announcing him walking out of the tunnel, and the
- 39:21Speaker 2: person we were seeing tomorrow or not, he seemed like
- 39:25Speaker 2: he had some you know, well, it seems like you're
- 39:28Speaker 2: there like moving well, like when he got off the
- 39:29Speaker 2: golf cart. It was almost like get a little jug
- 39:31Speaker 2: into the locker room.
- 39:32Speaker 7: Some some person stitched it on TikTok and they were
- 39:37Speaker 7: talking about their mom is a cardiovascular surgeon, and they're saying,
- 39:41Speaker 7: with what he went through that you shouldn't be able
- 39:44Speaker 7: to put your hands above your head this far out
- 39:47Speaker 7: of what was.
- 39:48Speaker 3: Happening to him.
- 39:49Speaker 7: And they show closer with him in the box and
- 39:52Speaker 7: he's doing this and he's like cheering, Well, I don't know.
- 39:56Speaker 7: I I have no stance on this.
- 39:59Speaker 3: I just like to present it.
- 40:01Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and and that's a great job going through
- 40:04Speaker 1: those rocky waters, right, because we don't be disrespectful to
- 40:06Speaker 1: tomorrow in his situation, he might be an absolute alien
- 40:09Speaker 1: and having amaze like doing what he's doing is according
- 40:12Speaker 1: to the cardiovascular mother, it's a big deal. I was
- 40:15Speaker 1: told by people that are in the world of knowing
- 40:19Speaker 1: cardiovascular stuff that when this first went down, this is
- 40:23Speaker 1: literally the next day I'm having a conversations people that
- 40:25Speaker 1: like they were saying, he's got a little to any
- 40:29Speaker 1: chance of even not being a wheelchair for the rest
- 40:31Speaker 1: of his life or not being you know, supported in
- 40:35Speaker 1: some type of way. Now, I'm incredibly happy that he
- 40:37Speaker 1: is is now being all right, Like, what a scary
- 40:40Speaker 1: scene we could have all because we literally moved the
- 40:42Speaker 1: pod because of it. Like we are trying to be
- 40:44Speaker 1: a sensitive possible situation. We're just talking about what we
- 40:46Speaker 1: were told and what's out there having a conversation, and
- 40:48Speaker 1: it's all speculation. One thing to not speculate, though, is
- 40:52Speaker 1: the Nebraska corn husters got themselves.
- 40:54Speaker 3: A fucking head coach.
- 40:55Speaker 1: Boys, Hey, they got themselves a fucking stud. This man
- 41:00Speaker 1: that rule came and sat on this on this little
- 41:01Speaker 1: bitty couch and was out there putting out fucking He
- 41:05Speaker 1: was like a modern da philosopher.
- 41:06Speaker 3: The way he was talking to us.
- 41:07Speaker 1: He was talking about how his foundation goes to the team,
- 41:09Speaker 1: what he does the president, he's going to set what
- 41:11Speaker 1: he does and does not want in the building, the
- 41:13Speaker 1: types of guys that are going to take Nebraska back
- 41:17Speaker 1: to those that nineties prevalence.
- 41:19Speaker 3: I believe the word is he was. I got fired up.
- 41:24Speaker 1: Even as a Michigan fan, You're like, damn, this is
- 41:26Speaker 1: gonna be great for the Big ten. A guy like him,
- 41:28Speaker 1: his attitude, his mindset can only imagine how you feel willy.
- 41:31Speaker 2: Everybody knows where I'm at. I think Nebraska will be
- 41:34Speaker 2: back sooner than we all like to speculate on. How
- 41:38Speaker 2: I say we all, I mean the haters. Yeah, yeah,
- 41:42Speaker 2: Well no, I think we're you know, I think we're
- 41:45Speaker 2: we're gonna we're going bowling this year.
- 41:47Speaker 3: Well you're going bowling no matter what.
- 41:48Speaker 2: We're going bowling, no matter what. But I think we're
- 41:50Speaker 2: gonna have a winning record. I think we hit at
- 41:51Speaker 2: least seven wins this year.
- 41:55Speaker 1: Beat Michigan.
- 41:57Speaker 3: I'm sure.
- 41:57Speaker 2: I'm sure I'll find a way to figure that out
- 41:59Speaker 2: by the time and that game comes.
- 42:01Speaker 3: A win or lose.
- 42:02Speaker 7: Though we can all agree Matt Rule is a guy
- 42:04Speaker 7: that you want leading your team, right he is all
- 42:07Speaker 7: the time.
- 42:08Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the real deal. And I love his transparracy.
- 42:10Speaker 2: I love the way he was talking about the adversities
- 42:12Speaker 2: he's went through, even in the instance where we were like, okay,
- 42:15Speaker 2: you get fired, but obviously people, you know, being a
- 42:18Speaker 2: fired head coach these days, you get the what is
- 42:21Speaker 2: it called the money that they get, what's that called
- 42:24Speaker 2: the buyout? The buyout money.
- 42:25Speaker 3: That they get.
- 42:26Speaker 2: It's like, okay, what kind of adversity were you really
- 42:28Speaker 2: in and then he goes in and talk about it.
- 42:30Speaker 3: I think people will enjoy hearing that.
- 42:31Speaker 1: They're enjoyed a lot. And there is a very important
- 42:34Speaker 1: document that is discussed on this on this bus that
- 42:39Speaker 1: you will have to turn in tune into, and I
- 42:41Speaker 1: hope you guys really enjoys we get through the episode.
- 42:43Speaker 7: Yeah, before we do busting one and a half week,
- 42:48Speaker 7: so I guess it'd be like a week left of
- 42:50Speaker 7: the Budweiser merch.
- 42:51Speaker 3: Yes, the Budweiser bow tie merch.
- 42:54Speaker 2: If you zoom in on Jack's beanie, all of our
- 42:58Speaker 2: merch with that logo will not be sold anymore on
- 43:02Speaker 2: our site by the end of this month.
- 43:04Speaker 3: So the pocket teas are best seller.
- 43:08Speaker 2: Are hoodies. I'm not wearing one any of that stuff.
- 43:11Speaker 2: The beanies, all that it's gonna be gone by the
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- 43:15Speaker 2: for making that number one throughout basically our entire existence. Unfortunately,
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- 43:23Speaker 1: Yeah, with that being said, let's get to the episode
- 43:26Speaker 1: right after. Wait, do we do shout out? No free
- 43:28Speaker 1: shoutout on this pod show?
- 43:31Speaker 2: Shout out goes to the vibe, the day one take off,
- 43:35Speaker 2: going to Vegas with the boys, the hype, the energy,
- 43:38Speaker 2: the vibes.
- 43:39Speaker 3: They cannot be killed. That's my shot out.
- 43:41Speaker 1: No free shut out, My shoutout, no free shodout is
- 43:43Speaker 1: going to when you're in college and you have a
- 43:45Speaker 1: hard fought grind Monday through Friday, and you have that
- 43:48Speaker 1: early Friday workout and you get done, take that deep exhale,
- 43:52Speaker 1: and you know, hey, we worked hard. Now it's not
- 43:54Speaker 1: to play hard with the boys.
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- 44:48Speaker 1: Coach Matt Rule. Let's give this man a round of
- 44:51Speaker 1: applause for being out here today, Big ten Championship Coach
- 44:56Speaker 1: Matt Rule from you coming on this bus travling all
- 44:59Speaker 1: the way to Nashville, the see US. I wanted to
- 45:01Speaker 1: give you a gift. Will and I talked about it
- 45:03Speaker 1: and we thought you should have this, Oh, the University
- 45:07Speaker 1: of Michigan Compton Jersey.
- 45:08Speaker 3: Wow.
- 45:08Speaker 1: And I thought you might want to hang that up
- 45:10Speaker 1: in your so much. Yeah. Will really, when we went
- 45:15Speaker 1: to Michigan, Will really wanted that. He thought, I want
- 45:18Speaker 1: to be a part of something special. So we got
- 45:20Speaker 1: that for him. We were up there in ann.
- 45:21Speaker 3: Arbor, Michigan.
- 45:22Speaker 2: They saw how well it went in Nebraska and they're like, oh,
- 45:24Speaker 2: we gotta we gotta do some jerseys for the boys too,
- 45:26Speaker 2: because Nebraska.
- 45:27Speaker 3: You know how they take care of you in Nebraska.
- 45:28Speaker 1: Now they really do. I was wildly surprised when we
- 45:31Speaker 1: went their last spring how they were literally for the
- 45:34Speaker 1: boys the whole way so much showed that the next
- 45:35Speaker 1: week we were going to Michigan, and I was like
- 45:37Speaker 1: sending text to people like, hey, I need you guys
- 45:40Speaker 1: to be straight. I need you guys to handle my boy.
- 45:43Speaker 1: And they hooked the boys up and everything. Both outstanding schools.
- 45:47Speaker 1: So let's get right into it, dude, how do you
- 45:50Speaker 1: defeat Michigan?
- 45:52Speaker 5: They are they're rolling, they roll until they get to
- 45:55Speaker 5: the playoffs.
- 45:56Speaker 8: Well, I mean it's a great game that game.
- 45:59Speaker 5: I was actually in Mexico and my wife she uh,
- 46:02Speaker 5: she set up whale watching and.
- 46:04Speaker 3: Like during the game, during the game, a great.
- 46:06Speaker 5: Picture of my son on the phone, like there's a
- 46:08Speaker 5: literally a whale jumping out of the water and my
- 46:10Speaker 5: son's over there watching the game. Oh no, it looked
- 46:12Speaker 5: like it was gonna be a blowout. But credit to
- 46:14Speaker 5: coach Harball, the boys fought back. I mean, you know,
- 46:17Speaker 5: big ten, you know Big ten.
- 46:19Speaker 1: There you go, that's what we need to do because
- 46:21Speaker 1: as the Big ten, we had guys in the back
- 46:22Speaker 1: of her SEC fans. Garrett and Jack are SEC fans,
- 46:26Speaker 1: and they're like No, it's every man for himself out there.
- 46:27Speaker 1: That's the wild West and the Big Ten. We have
- 46:29Speaker 1: to come together, There's no doubt.
- 46:31Speaker 5: Yeah, because because I think, I personally think like the
- 46:33Speaker 5: future of the Big Ten.
- 46:34Speaker 8: We get SC, we get u c l A In.
- 46:36Speaker 5: I think it's going to be like the Premiere Conference
- 46:39Speaker 5: and so but that boys, when when the playoff expands,
- 46:43Speaker 5: I'm excited to see what happens. I think our league will,
- 46:45Speaker 5: you know, especially when they start playing some home games.
- 46:47Speaker 5: You know, if that if that ends up being the deal.
- 46:48Speaker 5: It's imagine that game being played in ann Arbor with
- 46:51Speaker 5: what the difference would have been.
- 46:54Speaker 3: To stand a chance.
- 46:55Speaker 5: So I as I walk across f Nebraskas Campus sometimes
- 46:58Speaker 5: and feel that wind whip through you, I want to
- 47:00Speaker 5: play games at home.
- 47:01Speaker 3: And just.
- 47:03Speaker 2: When you get to the side of the Hawks, you're
- 47:05Speaker 2: going to get some food. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah,
- 47:07Speaker 2: that wind just eats you up. Bro, it's in Yeah, yeah.
- 47:10Speaker 5: Let's play football in that. But let's play football in
- 47:11Speaker 5: those conditions. If you want to win the championship, you
- 47:14Speaker 5: have to go on the road and play against somebody.
- 47:15Speaker 5: So as they put together the College Football Playoff, I
- 47:17Speaker 5: really hope that the home component is a big part
- 47:20Speaker 5: of it. How what's been your first impression in Nebraska.
- 47:22Speaker 8: I've been blown away. I've been blown you know, in
- 47:25Speaker 8: this in this world.
- 47:25Speaker 5: Like I took the job at Baylor, Like I show up,
- 47:27Speaker 5: there's a camera in my face, and it's like, this
- 47:29Speaker 5: is Baylor.
- 47:29Speaker 3: Oh okay, pretty cool. Like get to Carolina, know this
- 47:32Speaker 3: is Carolina.
- 47:33Speaker 5: I actually I actually got to go out and check
- 47:34Speaker 5: out Lincoln and I really thought, like I thought it
- 47:37Speaker 5: was going to be like the small little town like
- 47:39Speaker 5: still Water, Oklahoma or something. I got there and the downtown,
- 47:43Speaker 5: the haymarket, the campus community. Like I've been blown away.
- 47:47Speaker 5: I had no idea though. I mean, I'm in Mexico,
- 47:49Speaker 5: I'm at wherever I am. Someone comes up, go Big Red,
- 47:52Speaker 5: like just.
- 47:52Speaker 3: The the really.
- 47:56Speaker 8: Like that, no doubt.
- 47:57Speaker 1: I went to we were in Arizona and I literally
- 47:59Speaker 1: had to go to like a bank to sign like
- 48:01Speaker 1: a document for a loan. And I just brought Will
- 48:02Speaker 1: with me because we're going somewhere right after. And the
- 48:04Speaker 1: guy was like at first excited to meet me and
- 48:07Speaker 1: then saw Will and moved him out of the way
- 48:09Speaker 1: just to say go Big Red. And it was the
- 48:11Speaker 1: Will Compton Show for the next twenty five minutes.
- 48:12Speaker 3: I love it.
- 48:13Speaker 1: Got me a couple of percentages down on that interest
- 48:15Speaker 1: right after guy brother, that's my fucking boy right there everywhere.
- 48:18Speaker 3: Bro, the Nebraska fan base is like second to none.
- 48:20Speaker 3: That much sounds like a game.
- 48:21Speaker 2: Obviously I'm biased, but I do think Nebraska's fan base
- 48:24Speaker 2: is second to none out there.
- 48:25Speaker 5: No I that that much I've seen, and but I
- 48:28Speaker 5: just I like the place, you know what I mean,
- 48:30Speaker 5: And I you know, you need to take over a
- 48:31Speaker 5: new team, you never know what they're gonna be.
- 48:32Speaker 1: Like.
- 48:33Speaker 5: This is a really good group of guys too, Like
- 48:35Speaker 5: they they want to win. And I look back at
- 48:37Speaker 5: this season, you know it could have gone any which way.
- 48:39Speaker 5: You guys have been in teams where you know things
- 48:41Speaker 5: don't go the way you want them. They battled, you know,
- 48:43Speaker 5: and to beat Iowa at the end of the year,
- 48:44Speaker 5: they showed some grit and some toughness. And there's a
- 48:47Speaker 5: lot of guys there that really really love Nebraska. So
- 48:49Speaker 5: I'm anxious to get started for them, do the best
- 48:51Speaker 5: I can for them.
- 48:52Speaker 3: What do you feel like, did it for you?
- 48:53Speaker 2: Like if you take out the the fluff of saying
- 48:56Speaker 2: like all the right things, like you got leaving Carolina,
- 49:02Speaker 2: getting fired in Carolina, getting fired because it's good because
- 49:07Speaker 2: I was sitting there like, should I say got fired
- 49:09Speaker 2: from Carolina?
- 49:09Speaker 1: That's You've opened up a whole lot of doors for
- 49:12Speaker 1: us in this interview.
- 49:13Speaker 5: Oh, I mean I got fired, like it is what
- 49:14Speaker 5: it is like, especially in that league. But it's been
- 49:16Speaker 5: so I'll say this, it's been so good for me.
- 49:18Speaker 5: When I'm talking, I'm talking to recruits and I me
- 49:21Speaker 5: even talking to the guys in this team. They're like, Coach,
- 49:22Speaker 5: I've been through this, or you know, I just transferred
- 49:24Speaker 5: because of this. I'm like, bro, I was just the
- 49:27Speaker 5: same thing, same thing just happened to me. That's happening
- 49:29Speaker 5: to you, like you know so often as a coach,
- 49:31Speaker 5: like the coach and then the player like like to me,
- 49:33Speaker 5: I feel like I'm on the same level with them
- 49:35Speaker 5: because I just went through I went through elite adversity.
- 49:37Speaker 5: Not many head coaches go through adversity because once you
- 49:40Speaker 5: get fired, you usually out of it. I was just
- 49:41Speaker 5: able to get fired and then two months later find
- 49:44Speaker 5: a job that fit me. So like I feel like
- 49:47Speaker 5: I'm on a whole I'm so much better for having
- 49:50Speaker 5: been through it, not not having the chance of coaching.
- 49:52Speaker 3: I felt that was really cool.
- 49:53Speaker 5: But to get fired and to be made fun of
- 49:55Speaker 5: and to be a meme and all that stuff like
- 49:57Speaker 5: that that either breaks you or turns you into something
- 49:59Speaker 5: like supernatural.
- 50:01Speaker 8: Like I'm not saying I'm supernatural, but I'm.
- 50:03Speaker 3: Working hard Internet right now. It fires me up.
- 50:06Speaker 8: Oh, it's just it's been really good for me to
- 50:08Speaker 8: go through that.
- 50:09Speaker 2: When you say elite adversity, and people would sit back
- 50:12Speaker 2: and in the comments or anything else, talk about relate to. Okay,
- 50:15Speaker 2: I'm sure it's real tough going through that adversity with
- 50:17Speaker 2: a buyout that you have a lot of coaches when
- 50:18Speaker 2: they get fired, they get bought out Scott for literally
- 50:21Speaker 2: everybody when.
- 50:21Speaker 3: Bo got fired. But big Bio, there's big buyouts for
- 50:24Speaker 3: coaches when they get fired.
- 50:25Speaker 2: Explain the adversity you're talking about a little bit more
- 50:27Speaker 2: because a lot of a lot of people do. It's
- 50:29Speaker 2: like you do get fired, but there's a nice bag
- 50:32Speaker 2: still sitting there for you.
- 50:33Speaker 3: That does happen.
- 50:34Speaker 5: No, I just mean more like, yeah, you know it's
- 50:37Speaker 5: it's it's the money's the money, right, and the money's ridiculus.
- 50:39Speaker 5: Shouldn't shouldn't be this much money to coach. But the
- 50:41Speaker 5: market's the market, and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
- 50:43Speaker 5: say no, right right. I just think it's you know,
- 50:47Speaker 5: it's your kids, it's your family, Like, uh, you know,
- 50:50Speaker 5: people have a tendency. I think we all kind of
- 50:52Speaker 5: look at athletes as like even me as a coach,
- 50:55Speaker 5: like you look at athletes as you know, just this entity.
- 50:58Speaker 5: You guys are people, you know what I'm saying, Like
- 51:01Speaker 5: your people. You look at coaches and you see them
- 51:05Speaker 5: as like this person we're just gonna criticize. But there
- 51:06Speaker 5: were people, right and so like for me, like walking
- 51:09Speaker 5: out of a stadium and put my arm around my
- 51:10Speaker 5: son and you know, they just had fifty thousand people
- 51:13Speaker 5: chanting for his dad.
- 51:14Speaker 3: To get fired.
- 51:14Speaker 8: Like that ain't fun. They had every right to do it.
- 51:17Speaker 8: I got no issue with it.
- 51:18Speaker 5: You try to teach lessons, but like you go through
- 51:20Speaker 5: all that, your daughters come home and she's like we
- 51:21Speaker 5: have to move again, Like that's real. And I'll never
- 51:25Speaker 5: forget brad children. He has no coach. Childress was a vikings.
- 51:28Speaker 5: He called me, texted me, didn't even I don't even
- 51:30Speaker 5: know him. Yeah, he said, Matt, You'll be so much
- 51:31Speaker 5: better of a coach for having gone through this, cause,
- 51:33Speaker 5: you know, part of my job I have to fire coaches.
- 51:35Speaker 3: I have to. I've had to fire players if it
- 51:37Speaker 3: had to cut players.
- 51:38Speaker 5: And when you go through it and you see what
- 51:40Speaker 5: it feels like, the empathy, the how public it is,
- 51:43Speaker 5: I just think that's that part of the probly, the
- 51:45Speaker 5: public part of it. We're like you walk into the
- 51:46Speaker 5: grocery storeft doors and people look like you like you're
- 51:48Speaker 5: dead man walking, and it's like they didn't kill me.
- 51:50Speaker 5: You know, I'm still here. I'm still alive. So that part,
- 51:53Speaker 5: maybe just as a dad, is hard. But now to
- 51:55Speaker 5: your point, you make great money. It's all part of it,
- 51:57Speaker 5: Like this is the life I've chosen. It's like the mafia,
- 51:59Speaker 5: like I chose to be a coach. The highs and
- 52:01Speaker 5: lows of it, but you go through some The diversity's
- 52:03Speaker 5: pretty tough for your kids when you know you're sitting
- 52:06Speaker 5: there like, oh, I hope they're not reading this. I
- 52:07Speaker 5: hope they're not reading that. Usually they are so old,
- 52:09Speaker 5: are your kids? I had an eighteen year old son. Yeah,
- 52:13Speaker 5: everything when he came out he's like, he's like dad, Dad,
- 52:16Speaker 5: Stephen A.
- 52:16Speaker 8: Smith is going in on you.
- 52:18Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, no, it is what it is, buddy.
- 52:20Speaker 5: But but nine and seven year old daughters, and they're
- 52:22Speaker 5: the ones, you know, my son kind of knows that
- 52:24Speaker 5: my daughter's I kind of when my son was I
- 52:27Speaker 5: don't know, maybe nine or ten, I was coaching at Temple.
- 52:30Speaker 5: I was an assistant coach at the time, and Andy
- 52:31Speaker 5: Reid was kind of coming to the end in Philly.
- 52:34Speaker 5: We went to a game and the Patriots got up
- 52:36Speaker 5: on the Eagles, and the whole crowd started chanting fire Andy.
- 52:39Speaker 5: And so my son sitting there, he's eight or nine,
- 52:41Speaker 5: he's going fire.
- 52:42Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no.
- 52:45Speaker 5: When I started channing to fire me, I'm like, pretty
- 52:46Speaker 5: good company, buddy, And hey reads he's the goat. So yeah,
- 52:49Speaker 5: but I got a cool family. Eighteen nine and seven. Yeah,
- 52:53Speaker 5: that's awesome, dude.
- 52:54Speaker 2: As a very new parent, Taylor, obviously he's a he's
- 52:58Speaker 2: a dad of two five.
- 52:59Speaker 3: And five and two five and two. Yeah.
- 53:02Speaker 2: Hearing you talk about your son being eighteen and seeing
- 53:04Speaker 2: absolutely everything, I'm more so asking like, what is that
- 53:09Speaker 2: mindset for you? When you know he's reading and seeing
- 53:12Speaker 2: all this stuff, and he's either approaching you like, oh,
- 53:14Speaker 2: I wonder how my dad's gonna respond. How important for
- 53:17Speaker 2: you is it to like respond in the correct way,
- 53:20Speaker 2: to show a lesson in those moments, because I feel like,
- 53:23Speaker 2: even though he's seen any he's probably feeling like.
- 53:24Speaker 3: Fuck, man, I wish he wasn't blah blah blah.
- 53:26Speaker 2: But then he goes in and sees the way you
- 53:28Speaker 2: respond and it kind of rubs off on him, like, man,
- 53:30Speaker 2: he's kinda he's responding this a way I probably wouldn't
- 53:32Speaker 2: respond that way.
- 53:33Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean at some point in his life.
- 53:35Speaker 5: And I think as parents, the mistake we sometimes make
- 53:37Speaker 5: is we try to protect our kids for everything. No,
- 53:39Speaker 5: we can't protect them because it's coming no matter what.
- 53:41Speaker 5: Like if you protect them till they're eighteen, the adversity
- 53:44Speaker 5: or the crack that they have in their lives comes
- 53:45Speaker 5: when they're thirty, when they're forty, So it's about just
- 53:48Speaker 5: teaching them how to respond to it. And I think
- 53:49Speaker 5: for me, like, if I've done one thing, well, I
- 53:52Speaker 5: hope that after every game I've ever coached, win or lose.
- 53:54Speaker 5: When I've been I've been coach of the Year and
- 53:56Speaker 5: I've been fired, Yeah, like be the same guy, you know,
- 53:59Speaker 5: like come home after the game and don't take it
- 54:00Speaker 5: out on your kids, don't take it out on your life.
- 54:02Speaker 5: Don't don't know and talk to me like if I
- 54:05Speaker 5: say that my true per like I love football is
- 54:07Speaker 5: my passion. My purpose in life, I think is to
- 54:09Speaker 5: be a great man, a great husband.
- 54:10Speaker 3: Great father.
- 54:11Speaker 5: So if I say that, I got to live up
- 54:13Speaker 5: to that, and I have to live up to it
- 54:14Speaker 5: in the hardest of moments, like the day after I
- 54:16Speaker 5: got fired, Like did I, you know, did I take
- 54:18Speaker 5: my kids to school or did I sit home and
- 54:19Speaker 5: feel sorry for myself? Like let them see what it
- 54:22Speaker 5: means to truly be a man, to truly be the
- 54:24Speaker 5: person you say you are in the hardest of times.
- 54:27Speaker 8: And so that's that's what I try to do.
- 54:29Speaker 5: And I tried to lean into it, and I try
- 54:31Speaker 5: to have the conversations with my son because you know,
- 54:33Speaker 5: when I was at tempolet I remember we beat Penn State,
- 54:35Speaker 5: we ranked walking down the street, he was younger and
- 54:39Speaker 5: someone was like, coach, Rul, I love you, and I'd
- 54:41Speaker 5: always say to him is that real, and say, wow,
- 54:43Speaker 5: didn't you love that?
- 54:44Speaker 8: So it's not real. Is that real? It's not real.
- 54:47Speaker 5: What's real to me is that my players say, you know,
- 54:48Speaker 5: coach did the best he could for me. My coaches
- 54:50Speaker 5: say that, and my family says that. And if I
- 54:53Speaker 5: teach that to my kids, you know, I don't want
- 54:55Speaker 5: my kids growing up thinking the world, you know, how
- 54:57Speaker 5: the world sees them as who they really are. Who
- 54:58Speaker 5: they really are is what they do when no one's watching,
- 55:01Speaker 5: you know, Like I got my Twitter game. I'm trying
- 55:03Speaker 5: to perfect my Twitter game. It's not very good, but
- 55:05Speaker 5: I'm trying right now. That's but that's not who I am.
- 55:06Speaker 5: It's just something fun that I do. Like who am
- 55:09Speaker 5: I in my darkest of moments, my toughest of moments?
- 55:12Speaker 8: And then who? Who are the people in your lives
- 55:14Speaker 8: or show up in those moments?
- 55:15Speaker 5: There was you know, think about this in the NFL
- 55:18Speaker 5: there were there were players on the Panthers who drove
- 55:20Speaker 5: to my house just to check in on me and
- 55:22Speaker 5: my family. That's all like like, that's like it's so
- 55:24Speaker 5: like it didn't work out for me, but I know
- 55:26Speaker 5: I had some sort of an impact at least on somebody.
- 55:28Speaker 5: It wasn't perfect, but if they see that, if my
- 55:30Speaker 5: kids see that, then hopefully they live a life and
- 55:32Speaker 5: your kids live a life where it's like, you know what,
- 55:35Speaker 5: we're gonna have adversity.
- 55:36Speaker 8: How do we handle it?
- 55:37Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're when you're a head coach of a team.
- 55:39Speaker 1: Now on the other side, you have to actually go
- 55:41Speaker 1: on fire these guys and your son being eighteen years old.
- 55:44Speaker 1: Has your son ever stepped in and been like, hey,
- 55:46Speaker 1: I love this person or I love or why would.
- 55:48Speaker 3: You do that player?
- 55:49Speaker 1: Like a player, Like if you had if you had
- 55:50Speaker 1: to cut a player, and like your son was like
- 55:51Speaker 1: a big fan of was I'm sure he would come
- 55:53Speaker 1: to the practices and meet these guys, and as all
- 55:56Speaker 1: kids are, they kind of get drawn to one or
- 55:58Speaker 1: two players and sometimes you have this ta goodbye to
- 56:00Speaker 1: those one or two players, Like how do you handle
- 56:01Speaker 1: that with your son?
- 56:02Speaker 5: Really hard And honestly, if you have a if there
- 56:05Speaker 5: was a drawback for me as a pro coach, is
- 56:07Speaker 5: that I really struggled with that, Like after being a
- 56:09Speaker 5: college coach for a long time, like I was used
- 56:12Speaker 5: to like, you know, when you're a coach, you can
- 56:13Speaker 5: you're kind of you're kind of taking this path, but
- 56:15Speaker 5: you see where the end could be you see the
- 56:17Speaker 5: potential in somebody, like, hey, in three or four years,
- 56:19Speaker 5: so I'm gonna pour into that person.
- 56:21Speaker 8: Knowing I get in the NFL.
- 56:22Speaker 5: Man, I was like, it's Saturday after a walkthrough and
- 56:24Speaker 5: they want GM walks down like, hey, we got to
- 56:26Speaker 5: make a roster move.
- 56:27Speaker 8: Who do you want to get rid of? And it's like,
- 56:29Speaker 8: oh my gosh.
- 56:29Speaker 3: Well they phrased it to you like that.
- 56:31Speaker 1: They usually don't is it sorry, I hate to cut
- 56:33Speaker 1: you off, But if a GM walks down, he's like,
- 56:35Speaker 1: we had to cut a guy.
- 56:35Speaker 3: Who do you want to who do you want to cut?
- 56:37Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes it's like, hey, we need to make a
- 56:38Speaker 5: move here is it this guy or this guy?
- 56:40Speaker 3: How do you see it?
- 56:40Speaker 5: Or we got to you know, sometimes they're like hey,
- 56:42Speaker 5: let's get you know, every place is probably different, but
- 56:44Speaker 5: you know, I work for some great gms and they
- 56:45Speaker 5: always wanted to like, hey, Matt, how do I work?
- 56:47Speaker 5: You know, let's work together. But I I just had
- 56:50Speaker 5: a hard time with that relationship part of it, cause
- 56:52Speaker 5: it's like there's always this wallet between you and the
- 56:54Speaker 5: player because when you walk down the hallway, they're like, hey,
- 56:56Speaker 5: that's the guy that's eventually gonna cut me, and it's
- 56:58Speaker 5: gonna come to an end at some point. You know,
- 57:00Speaker 5: I had the unique perspectives of a couple guys I
- 57:02Speaker 5: had coached in college were playing for me in the NFL.
- 57:04Speaker 5: So I had this one relationship with them as our
- 57:06Speaker 5: college coach as being like when they look back Ianidis,
- 57:09Speaker 5: and I taught me more than I'm preparing to be
- 57:13Speaker 5: a really good college coach, because Matt taught me a
- 57:16Speaker 5: lot after having played for me in college and then
- 57:17Speaker 5: gone through being in the NFL for seven years, and
- 57:20Speaker 5: he trusted me like him and I would sit there
- 57:21Speaker 5: and just kind of talk, and he would talk.
- 57:24Speaker 3: To me about what it felt like perspective.
- 57:25Speaker 8: He's awesome, and he said things to me that changed
- 57:27Speaker 8: my coaching style. Like I didn't.
- 57:29Speaker 5: I didn't take into account because I can just not
- 57:31Speaker 5: look at my Twitter. I don't take into account what
- 57:33Speaker 5: it's like for a twenty four year old guy. Like
- 57:35Speaker 5: one of the things I think's wrong with the NFL
- 57:36Speaker 5: is every play is graded, like every play is greated
- 57:39Speaker 5: by someone else, and so like you know, oh my
- 57:42Speaker 5: good goodness. And so I'm not talking about anyone. I
- 57:44Speaker 5: want to get myself crust on this whatever, but like
- 57:47Speaker 5: guys are coming off the game and it's like, you know,
- 57:49Speaker 5: the world is telling them whether they played what good
- 57:50Speaker 5: or they played.
- 57:51Speaker 8: Bad, and no one really knows.
- 57:52Speaker 5: Like maybe when I could grade the film, we're two coaches,
- 57:54Speaker 5: we might disagree. So the amount of pressure, the amount
- 57:58Speaker 5: of stress and anxiety on these guys is overwhelming. And
- 58:01Speaker 5: you know, the locker room and the coaching staff, it
- 58:03Speaker 5: has to be a safe player. You have to come
- 58:05Speaker 5: in and you know we can coach you. But you know, Matt,
- 58:07Speaker 5: Matt would Matt did a great job of teaching me, Like, hey, Matt, Matt,
- 58:09Speaker 5: these guys are these guys.
- 58:11Speaker 3: Are a lot of pressure.
- 58:12Speaker 5: They're under a lot of pressure social media wise, a
- 58:14Speaker 5: lot of pressure like with their families. Like let's let's
- 58:16Speaker 5: let's build a space where we can coach them hard,
- 58:19Speaker 5: but we can also we can also coach them the
- 58:21Speaker 5: right way, you know. And so I think, as I
- 58:23Speaker 5: come back to college, I'm seeing the same thing, man,
- 58:24Speaker 5: Like everything these guys do, it's it's especially you know
- 58:27Speaker 5: in major college football, it's it's seen. And so wanted
- 58:30Speaker 5: to make sure it's a place where we push them
- 58:32Speaker 5: but also kind of a safe space as well, where
- 58:34Speaker 5: you can make a mistake and know that you're still
- 58:36Speaker 5: cared about.
- 58:36Speaker 1: Yeah, besides the cutting part, it seems like college is
- 58:39Speaker 1: much more ruthless. The fan base is go way harder,
- 58:43Speaker 1: Like I don't know how it is at Nebraska, but
- 58:45Speaker 1: Michigan will skin you alive if you they think you
- 58:48Speaker 1: had a bad game or something like that. And that
- 58:50Speaker 1: is that is tough when you're a college player. And
- 58:52Speaker 1: I feel like the coaching staffs too well, Like in
- 58:55Speaker 1: the wintertime that you start doing those six am morning workouts,
- 58:59Speaker 1: guys are killing you. And I feel like just the
- 59:01Speaker 1: process of college is much harder than process of the NFL.
- 59:04Speaker 1: The games are obviously more difficult in the NFL, but
- 59:06Speaker 1: it is a long time to be around those kids.
- 59:08Speaker 3: He's around them all the time.
- 59:09Speaker 1: I don't know how it changes now because and I
- 59:11Speaker 1: I had guys from Michigan say, hey, I'm off the
- 59:14Speaker 1: whole month of March. I'm thinking to myself, we never
- 59:16Speaker 1: had a month off. Did you ever a month off?
- 59:18Speaker 3: I think it was like May, not like a month.
- 59:20Speaker 3: We'd have three weeks off. Oh shit, I never had
- 59:22Speaker 3: that what they call like fifth semester in between like
- 59:26Speaker 3: the end of the spring and.
- 59:27Speaker 2: Yeah, yah, yeah, Oh I never had anything like that
- 59:29Speaker 2: in the spring ball until you start summer workouts, there's
- 59:32Speaker 2: always like a three week thinkuse. So some guys can
- 59:34Speaker 2: go back to class and they got to take like
- 59:36Speaker 2: three or four hours of one class per day just
- 59:38Speaker 2: to get that credit. Some guys wouldn't have to do it.
- 59:41Speaker 2: Oh they from your home with a workout program for
- 59:43Speaker 2: like three weeks.
- 59:43Speaker 1: You missed out.
- 59:44Speaker 3: I missed out big time.
- 59:45Speaker 1: I was in school always stooped you bro, Hey, you
- 59:48Speaker 1: were in school always you know? Yeah, them grades weren't
- 59:51Speaker 1: the best. I was the king of two point zero.
- 59:54Speaker 1: I made a very a plan, a choice, and that
- 59:57Speaker 1: is it when I got to college. But it is
- 59:59Speaker 1: I feel like you're dealing with with different maturity levels
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: as well.
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: I mean, the kids are eighteen years old.
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: You're basically like you have to do a gudget of
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: a good job of implementing the offense defens of special teams.
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: But you're also your job is on the line with
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty two year olds. Like does that add
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: a level of stress to you or is it more
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: of like, hey, we get to mold in a certain
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: way as well.
- 1:00:18Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:00:18Speaker 5: I think I think for me like being in the
- 1:00:21Speaker 5: NFL and seeing guys every week that I had coached
- 1:00:24Speaker 5: playing on other teams. I think having a chance to
- 1:00:28Speaker 5: coach some of them, and then after you get fired,
- 1:00:29Speaker 5: like those guys reaching out to you, like you know,
- 1:00:31Speaker 5: I've always said, you know, my sort of my core
- 1:00:34Speaker 5: philosophy is I want every player that plays for us
- 1:00:36Speaker 5: to look back and say, like, you know what, playing
- 1:00:38Speaker 5: for them made my life a little bit better, whether
- 1:00:40Speaker 5: it's you know what, I've got to play in the NFL,
- 1:00:41Speaker 5: I got a great degree. They taught me something and
- 1:00:44Speaker 5: so sometimes when you go through that, like sometimes you
- 1:00:45Speaker 5: don't know how people feel about you till you're dead.
- 1:00:47Speaker 5: When you get fired publicly like I did, a lot
- 1:00:49Speaker 5: of guys reached out to me and it meant a
- 1:00:51Speaker 5: lot to me, and I was like, you know, I
- 1:00:52Speaker 5: crave that.
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: I want to get back to that.
- 1:00:54Speaker 5: I think the good thing for me coming to Nebraska
- 1:00:56Speaker 5: is it's my fourth head coaching job in eleven years.
- 1:00:59Speaker 5: Like the mistake I made early on, I'm almost embarrassed
- 1:01:02Speaker 5: about things I did at Temple, but I've learned. I've
- 1:01:04Speaker 5: I've mastered kind of that craft of working with those
- 1:01:06Speaker 5: guys over time, I hope, and so like I want
- 1:01:09Speaker 5: to go there, I want to push them, I want
- 1:01:11Speaker 5: to coach them. I'm old school, like we're gonna we're
- 1:01:12Speaker 5: gonna practice hard, and I'm gonna coach them hard. But
- 1:01:15Speaker 5: that doesn't ever have to that doesn't I can demand them.
- 1:01:17Speaker 5: I don't have to demean any anyone.
- 1:01:19Speaker 3: I don't have to.
- 1:01:20Speaker 5: If I look back, even in my time in Carolina,
- 1:01:21Speaker 5: I feel like there's only one time that I truly regret.
- 1:01:24Speaker 5: But really, I don't think I've ever ever threw anybody
- 1:01:26Speaker 5: under the bus. Like I don't think I ever said like, well,
- 1:01:28Speaker 5: we just don't have this, or we don't have that,
- 1:01:30Speaker 5: or it's this guy's fault. I tried to always made
- 1:01:32Speaker 5: for some awkward moments because sometimes I was probably trying
- 1:01:34Speaker 5: to overprotect the guys.
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: But I always feel like that's my job.
- 1:01:37Speaker 5: Is that, Like you want to be a leader, get
- 1:01:38Speaker 5: out front man, like take the bullets for your guys,
- 1:01:40Speaker 5: and we'll hope that your guys respond for you. And
- 1:01:42Speaker 5: so I think if I do that, I'll have a
- 1:01:46Speaker 5: chance to affect some of those guys' lives. And as
- 1:01:48Speaker 5: I built my staff, I built a staff that I trust,
- 1:01:51Speaker 5: like I have fourteen former players working for me in
- 1:01:54Speaker 5: some way. I got three guys from the play for
- 1:01:55Speaker 5: me at the Panthers, even like working in different areas.
- 1:01:58Speaker 5: I got guys from Carol, from Carolin, I got guys
- 1:02:00Speaker 5: from Temple, from Baylor. I'm not hiring them because they're
- 1:02:03Speaker 5: my friends. I'm hiring them because I trust them, like
- 1:02:05Speaker 5: they're gonna work hard for the players, and I think
- 1:02:08Speaker 5: that's what the guys need. They need people they can
- 1:02:09Speaker 5: look up to and they can help them through the
- 1:02:11Speaker 5: trials and tribulations of being eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one.
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: That one time he regret in Carolina. Are you free
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: to talk about that?
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:02:17Speaker 5: No, absolutely. You know, Cam Newton's one of my favorite
- 1:02:19Speaker 5: favorite players I've ever been around, Like the brutal honesty
- 1:02:24Speaker 5: that he would share with me, the conversations.
- 1:02:26Speaker 8: Every Tuesday, him and I would meet for an hour.
- 1:02:28Speaker 5: We played Buffalo and we called a play and it
- 1:02:32Speaker 5: was four fourth and one. We went for it and
- 1:02:34Speaker 5: Cam threw the bubble out. There was incomplete and after
- 1:02:36Speaker 5: the game they asked me, like what happened? And I
- 1:02:39Speaker 5: wasn't even thinking about it with Cam, you know what
- 1:02:40Speaker 5: I'm saying. I was thinking about it more like frustrated
- 1:02:43Speaker 5: with us as coaches that we had that, you know,
- 1:02:46Speaker 5: and so we're thinking that's going to be a quarterback run,
- 1:02:48Speaker 5: get a yard.
- 1:02:49Speaker 3: You know.
- 1:02:49Speaker 5: They rotated the safeties, which changed the mic point. So
- 1:02:51Speaker 5: Cam knew he was in trouble. So Cam's such a
- 1:02:52Speaker 5: high level thinker, he knew it. So he threw the
- 1:02:54Speaker 5: bubble out. So when they asked me afterwards, I said,
- 1:02:56Speaker 5: we didn't call that to throw the bubble, Like I
- 1:02:57Speaker 5: didn't want to throw a bubble there. Right next time,
- 1:03:00Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my gosh. You know, sometimes they beat
- 1:03:03Speaker 5: up coaches, you know, they beat up Zach Wilson after
- 1:03:04Speaker 5: the Jets game. They beat up coaches with I wish
- 1:03:07Speaker 5: people knew what it felt like to go have your
- 1:03:08Speaker 5: adrenaline at like two hundred and have your heart rate
- 1:03:11Speaker 5: of like one ninety, and you know, you go walking
- 1:03:13Speaker 5: in and some media person's like, here's this. They're gona
- 1:03:15Speaker 5: ask you this, They're gonna ask you this, They're gonna
- 1:03:16Speaker 5: ask you this, and you have about eight seconds to
- 1:03:18Speaker 5: get ready for the postgame press conference. And then that's
- 1:03:20Speaker 5: one time for me, it just got away from me,
- 1:03:22Speaker 5: and I didn't mean I apologize to Cam.
- 1:03:24Speaker 8: He was great, I mean, ultimate professional's coach.
- 1:03:26Speaker 5: I got it, but I just hated it, you know,
- 1:03:28Speaker 5: because it came across like I was saying that about him,
- 1:03:30Speaker 5: and there's no guy like that guy was there at
- 1:03:33Speaker 5: eleven o'clock at night, and that guy was there at
- 1:03:35Speaker 5: five o'clock in the morning, like Cam Newton was a grinder.
- 1:03:38Speaker 5: And so that's the last thing I wanted to do
- 1:03:40Speaker 5: was put him on the spot. And it just came
- 1:03:41Speaker 5: out that way. And you know, it's hard to put
- 1:03:43Speaker 5: the toothpaste back in, yeah, and the bottle after that.
- 1:03:46Speaker 5: But you know, it's just sometimes I let my frustration
- 1:03:49Speaker 5: get me one time because it was mad because I
- 1:03:50Speaker 5: thought we had a chance and uh, you know, we
- 1:03:53Speaker 5: just made a bad play.
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: Call probably damn dud. Why don't you think it worked
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: out in Carolina for me? Yeah?
- 1:03:59Speaker 5: You know, I think I think I took over kind
- 1:04:01Speaker 5: of a tough situation. Like you know, there's a lot
- 1:04:03Speaker 5: of Hall of famers on that team that were that
- 1:04:05Speaker 5: were leaving, and you know, right off the bat, you know,
- 1:04:07Speaker 5: you know, they end up letting Cam go and then
- 1:04:09Speaker 5: Luke retired, and so I think if I look back,
- 1:04:12Speaker 5: I would have just tried to do it faster. You know,
- 1:04:14Speaker 5: I would have tried to. I was trying to be
- 1:04:16Speaker 5: a little more aggressive in free agency. I had tried
- 1:04:17Speaker 5: a big trade, but that wasn't really the plan. I'm
- 1:04:21Speaker 5: kind of a loyal guy. Like if you tell me,
- 1:04:23Speaker 5: like this is how I want to do it, then
- 1:04:24Speaker 5: I'm gonna do it that way, and I'm gonna take
- 1:04:26Speaker 5: responsibility for it, even if maybe it's not always what
- 1:04:28Speaker 5: I agree with. Like if we say, hey, we're doing
- 1:04:30Speaker 5: it this way, we'll do it. So I just you know,
- 1:04:32Speaker 5: I never got the offense going. Like we we went
- 1:04:34Speaker 5: from like the worst defense in the league the first year,
- 1:04:36Speaker 5: we were second. The second year, I thought the defense
- 1:04:38Speaker 5: was coming on. And even this year, like I was
- 1:04:41Speaker 5: proud the way they played down the stretch, like they
- 1:04:43Speaker 5: played well enough and Steve did a great job.
- 1:04:45Speaker 8: But I knew that team.
- 1:04:46Speaker 5: Like if you go back to my press conferences earlier,
- 1:04:47Speaker 5: I said, guys, we just signed Baker, like just give
- 1:04:50Speaker 5: him a chance that we have to play, Like you know,
- 1:04:52Speaker 5: a lot of teams start off one and three, one
- 1:04:54Speaker 5: and four and they kind of make a run. You
- 1:04:55Speaker 5: saw that this year with some teams. So I just
- 1:04:57Speaker 5: thought once they won a couple games, the pressure would
- 1:04:59Speaker 5: come off. I thought we got past the forty nine ers,
- 1:05:01Speaker 5: because that's a pretty good team. But you know, it
- 1:05:03Speaker 5: wasn't for me, And it was one of those things
- 1:05:04Speaker 5: where had picked up so much steam, Like the fan
- 1:05:07Speaker 5: base was pretty agitated about me at the end of
- 1:05:09Speaker 5: last year. They were agitated about me, and once that happens,
- 1:05:11Speaker 5: it's it's really hard to stop it. So yeah, there's
- 1:05:15Speaker 5: all kinds of things like what if we'd have done this,
- 1:05:16Speaker 5: what if we would have done that. But I kind
- 1:05:18Speaker 5: of tried to do in the NFL what I did
- 1:05:19Speaker 5: in college, which was like a slow build to have
- 1:05:21Speaker 5: a really good team. Whoever gets that job, I think
- 1:05:24Speaker 5: they have a pretty good roster. I mean, you got
- 1:05:25Speaker 5: Brian Burns, DJ Moore, Derreck Brown, the offensive lines.
- 1:05:28Speaker 8: You was drafted Dicky last year.
- 1:05:30Speaker 5: You know, of course the Corbett towards ACL, but Taylor
- 1:05:32Speaker 5: Moten's on a long term contract. I think like twenty
- 1:05:35Speaker 5: to twenty two starters are under contract next year. So
- 1:05:37Speaker 5: I think it's a job that people should take because
- 1:05:39Speaker 5: they'll they'll have they have a pretty good roster there
- 1:05:41Speaker 5: and a good culture in that locker room.
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: When you when you first get in there and you
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: said be more aggressive in free agency, bigger trade, Like
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: how much of influence did you have in those things
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: with the GM, Like like, I don't know how things
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: work outside of the Titans. I was only with the Titans,
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: but it seemed like John Robinson like he was running
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: the show and that's and that's what it was.
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: And I don't I don't know how it usually worked
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: with a head coach at a GM.
- 1:06:04Speaker 5: I think, you know, so I had I was the
- 1:06:05Speaker 5: head coach basically was there a head coach for two
- 1:06:07Speaker 5: years in five games? I had two GMS in two years,
- 1:06:09Speaker 5: so you know, obviously you have one and then you're
- 1:06:11Speaker 5: trying to work with another one. I had Barty Hernie,
- 1:06:13Speaker 5: who's awesome, and the Scott Fitters as classy a dude
- 1:06:16Speaker 5: as there is. There's not one like major trade we
- 1:06:19Speaker 5: could have had that we didn't do, Like, oh, we
- 1:06:21Speaker 5: should have built the triggered on it. More like looking back,
- 1:06:23Speaker 5: it's like, hey, if you only have two years, man,
- 1:06:25Speaker 5: let's let's go.
- 1:06:26Speaker 3: Let's go shoot our shit up. Yeah, you could have
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: been under the influence that you had time.
- 1:06:29Speaker 5: Yeah, Like well yeah, so like for me, if you say, like, hey,
- 1:06:31Speaker 5: let's I just want this kind of built over three
- 1:06:33Speaker 5: or four years.
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: We'll build over three or four years. If it's two years,
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: it's two years.
- 1:06:37Speaker 5: And so I would have probably just probably maybe made
- 1:06:39Speaker 5: a trade, maybe traded up for a quarterback.
- 1:06:40Speaker 8: Or something like that.
- 1:06:42Speaker 5: You go back over. We tried a lot of things
- 1:06:44Speaker 5: at quarterback. You know, we traded for Sam. I was
- 1:06:46Speaker 5: happy to see the way Sam played down the stretch,
- 1:06:48Speaker 5: you know. We traded for Baker. We we brought Cam back,
- 1:06:50Speaker 5: you know. So we tried a bunch of different things.
- 1:06:53Speaker 5: So you know, it just it just wasn't Maybe it
- 1:06:56Speaker 5: wasn't meant to be. Wasn't the right time, maybe the
- 1:06:58Speaker 5: right place. But I like the players there, I mean
- 1:07:01Speaker 5: I really do. Like I I turned on the forty
- 1:07:03Speaker 5: nine ers. I love watching Christian run wild, like I
- 1:07:05Speaker 5: love watching the Panthers play, Like I could watch Frankie
- 1:07:08Speaker 5: Lolul who play all day long. Man, he's one of
- 1:07:09Speaker 5: the best playing football players I've ever been around. So
- 1:07:12Speaker 5: I had good memories from it, but just just didn't
- 1:07:15Speaker 5: quite work out the way I thought it would.
- 1:07:16Speaker 3: Was It like seeing Christian McCaffrey go to the Niners.
- 1:07:18Speaker 5: So so you know, it's funny. He he got trade.
- 1:07:21Speaker 5: I texted him right away, like because I got fired.
- 1:07:23Speaker 5: And also in a week later he gets traded and yeah,
- 1:07:26Speaker 5: and he was like, hey, he said, he said, he said, hey,
- 1:07:30Speaker 5: he called me.
- 1:07:31Speaker 8: He's like, I'll call you right back, So don't call me.
- 1:07:32Speaker 8: You got enough going on.
- 1:07:33Speaker 5: So just if you ever need me, call me. And
- 1:07:36Speaker 5: he's like, you know, he's such a great tude man.
- 1:07:38Speaker 5: So the next day, my wife and son are at
- 1:07:40Speaker 5: the airport. They're gett ready to fly up to Penn State.
- 1:07:42Speaker 5: It's my alma mater and there's a white out and
- 1:07:43Speaker 5: the ad there's a good friend of mine. So we
- 1:07:45Speaker 5: just wanted to my son, you know, we wanted to
- 1:07:47Speaker 5: go to college, visit, just get them away. So they're
- 1:07:49Speaker 5: at the airport. I'm gonna babysit the nine and seven
- 1:07:51Speaker 5: year old. I'm daddy for the weekend. And they were
- 1:07:55Speaker 5: like the FBO and Christian comes walking in and my
- 1:07:57Speaker 5: son sees him. Christians just got trade and he's getting
- 1:08:00Speaker 5: ready to go to fly to San Francisco. The turns
- 1:08:02Speaker 5: makes the left, walks over, hugs my wife and I
- 1:08:06Speaker 5: was just my wife is one of those wives like
- 1:08:08Speaker 5: even in the NFL. Just even in the NFL, she
- 1:08:10Speaker 5: would have a different position group over every Thursday during
- 1:08:12Speaker 5: the season. Never managed to not like hey, we need you,
- 1:08:15Speaker 5: like DJ Moore and Robbie Anderson. It was like twelve
- 1:08:17Speaker 5: fifteen at night, She's like, guys.
- 1:08:18Speaker 3: You have to leave. It's time to go.
- 1:08:20Speaker 5: Like those guys would come over, we would kick it
- 1:08:22Speaker 5: and hang out. So she felt part of the team.
- 1:08:25Speaker 5: And so I get fired. She doesn't get to see anyone,
- 1:08:27Speaker 5: Like there's no closure for her either.
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:08:29Speaker 5: So so Christian walks up, hugs her, hugs Bryant and
- 1:08:33Speaker 5: says something I'll keep you know, just said some really
- 1:08:35Speaker 5: positive things to them. They kind of needed that, and
- 1:08:37Speaker 5: that's that's that's who he is.
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: Man. So like when I see what he's.
- 1:08:40Speaker 5: Doing right now, I'm fired up. I'm fired up for
- 1:08:42Speaker 5: him because he deserves this opportunity. You know, he got
- 1:08:45Speaker 5: run a lot last year at Stanford, his first couple
- 1:08:47Speaker 5: of years in the NFL, Like his percentage of carries,
- 1:08:50Speaker 5: I mean was elite. So unfortunately during my time, you know,
- 1:08:53Speaker 5: he had some injuries. I feel like though his body rested,
- 1:08:56Speaker 5: and you know, he didn't make all he didn't make
- 1:08:57Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl this year.
- 1:08:58Speaker 3: I told himself, well, just settle for being this Super
- 1:09:00Speaker 3: Bowl MVP. How about that? I think he could.
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: Yeah, and my first overall draft pick in the Fantasy nice. Yeah,
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: I was still late.
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: When we played the Panthers, it was always like that's
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: you stop him, you win the game. Like he was
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: like a ridiculous percentage of touches like running and catching
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: the ball.
- 1:09:15Speaker 3: Guy's elite, truly elite. He is what.
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: Being the head coach there and then seeing him get
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: traded is it kind of like what are what?
- 1:09:24Speaker 3: Why would the Panthers trade him away? He's the best player. Yeah,
- 1:09:28Speaker 3: I'm afraid to touch.
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: But I think I just think that all the question
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: because he is. Yeah, because once they fired you and
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: they got rid of him, with everyone's like, yo, what
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: are the Panthers doing?
- 1:09:41Speaker 8: And I think that's a lot of credit to the
- 1:09:42Speaker 8: guys in the lock him because they made a run.
- 1:09:44Speaker 8: Like I told him that. When I got fired, I
- 1:09:45Speaker 8: went to you know, I went and talked to the
- 1:09:46Speaker 8: team after I got fired.
- 1:09:48Speaker 3: And it's just not happened.
- 1:09:50Speaker 5: Yeah, but I you know, and mister Tepper gave me
- 1:09:51Speaker 5: the opportunity, which I appreciate, and I told and I
- 1:09:53Speaker 5: and I went in. I talked about the game first,
- 1:09:55Speaker 5: like I went in like like they didn't know I
- 1:09:57Speaker 5: was fired yet. I went and I said, here, here's
- 1:09:59Speaker 5: what I see from the game, Here's how I think
- 1:10:00Speaker 5: it affects us. And then I said, hey, I'm not
- 1:10:02Speaker 5: gonna be your coach anymore. I said, but you know,
- 1:10:05Speaker 5: all I ask every guy every year is like, hey,
- 1:10:07Speaker 5: in the offseason, handle your free agency, handle your business,
- 1:10:09Speaker 5: handle your money, do what's right for you. But once
- 1:10:11Speaker 5: we sign up for the year, just just just just
- 1:10:14Speaker 5: ride it out to the end of the year full board.
- 1:10:15Speaker 5: So I was here for you guys the whole year.
- 1:10:18Speaker 5: I'm being asked to leave, but that doesn't mean I'm
- 1:10:21Speaker 5: not in it with you. Like I hope you guys win,
- 1:10:22Speaker 5: and I expected you guys to win, because when I
- 1:10:24Speaker 5: started the year off, I looked at Tampa Bay, and
- 1:10:27Speaker 5: I looked at Atlanta the first couple of games, and
- 1:10:29Speaker 5: I looked at New Orleans. I said, guys, we're gonna
- 1:10:32Speaker 5: have a chance to beat all these teams. Now, I
- 1:10:34Speaker 5: don't know about the rest of you know, FC West
- 1:10:36Speaker 5: and all that, how they're but I thought we had
- 1:10:37Speaker 5: a chance. And so they came down the stretch. Credit
- 1:10:39Speaker 5: to Steve Wilkes. He's a really good coach. Kept them
- 1:10:41Speaker 5: together and the guys did a good job and they
- 1:10:43Speaker 5: had a chance at the end to go win it.
- 1:10:45Speaker 5: So that's good experience for them because they might have
- 1:10:47Speaker 5: a chance to make a run next year if they
- 1:10:48Speaker 5: can keep that, you know, team together.
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: Steve took over his intermhead coach at the time. Yeah,
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: and so they're still trying to find a head coach now.
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: They are him, Yeah, he is he a candidate or no.
- 1:10:56Speaker 3: I don't They don't, They don't know.
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: And I'm sure he Usually they say like hey, this Internet,
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: he's not gonna be blah blah ball. We're gonna start
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: interviewing these guys and.
- 1:11:04Speaker 3: Stuff like that.
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: You speak on coach Wolkes for a second, just because
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: I know, back when I was in Washington, I feel
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: like he's been a name that's been in the circuit
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: for years now.
- 1:11:11Speaker 3: On being a head coaching candidate.
- 1:11:12Speaker 5: Well, he went out to Arizona, it was the head
- 1:11:14Speaker 5: coach in Arizona and just kind of in that transition, right,
- 1:11:16Speaker 5: and like the same thing I talk about sometimes you
- 1:11:18Speaker 5: just kind of get caught up you're you're a great
- 1:11:19Speaker 5: head coach. It's just the right the wrong place at
- 1:11:22Speaker 5: the wrong time. I think Steve right around him After
- 1:11:24Speaker 5: about a month, I remember saying to him like, Hey,
- 1:11:26Speaker 5: you know, I don't know what will happen here, but
- 1:11:27Speaker 5: if I can ever help you in this, because I
- 1:11:29Speaker 5: just could tell his leadership and his command and so
- 1:11:34Speaker 5: like they're gonna go through the head coach and searches
- 1:11:36Speaker 5: right now, and they just went through it in college.
- 1:11:37Speaker 5: You're gonna go through the NFL and they're gonna talk
- 1:11:39Speaker 5: about all these really cool coordinators and to me that
- 1:11:41Speaker 5: you know, being a head coach of being the coordinators
- 1:11:43Speaker 5: about like you know, you're both doctors, but you know
- 1:11:45Speaker 5: one's a one's a you know, cardiologist, and ones an oncologist.
- 1:11:49Speaker 3: Like like it's completely different.
- 1:11:50Speaker 5: Like the things you deal with as a head coach,
- 1:11:53Speaker 5: especially in the NFL, you're dealing with the GM, you're
- 1:11:55Speaker 5: dealing with the owner, you're dealing with you know, player issues,
- 1:11:58Speaker 5: you're dealing you're dealing with all these things. You're dealing
- 1:11:59Speaker 5: with game management, you're dealing with situational football. Steve, I
- 1:12:04Speaker 5: think is great at all those things. I think he's
- 1:12:06Speaker 5: an elite head coach. He has experience. You know a
- 1:12:08Speaker 5: lot of times you get fired as head coach and
- 1:12:09Speaker 5: they don't bring you back. Well, you got all. You
- 1:12:12Speaker 5: have experience. You know you've seen what worked, you've seen
- 1:12:14Speaker 5: what doesn't work. And the coaches I look up to
- 1:12:16Speaker 5: the most Andy Reid, the Bill Belichicks, those guys, by
- 1:12:18Speaker 5: the way, those are the first guys that reach out
- 1:12:19Speaker 5: to a guy like me when I get fired.
- 1:12:21Speaker 3: Those are the first guys. That's awesome.
- 1:12:22Speaker 8: I mean, like they're classiest, but like they went somewhere.
- 1:12:26Speaker 5: They were head coaches, they went through what I went through,
- 1:12:27Speaker 5: and they're better at best days were ahead of them.
- 1:12:29Speaker 8: So that's why when I came to Nebraska, I was like,
- 1:12:31Speaker 8: can we do it here?
- 1:12:31Speaker 5: I walked around, I looked around, saw the fan base,
- 1:12:34Speaker 5: saw the support, so all everything. I said, I'm gonna
- 1:12:36Speaker 5: come here, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to make sure
- 1:12:38Speaker 5: my best days are ahead of me, not behind me.
- 1:12:41Speaker 3: Yeah, buddy, can I do it here?
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:12:44Speaker 3: I believe he can.
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: But if you look at your history as a head coach,
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: it's it's a slow burn. And then all of a sudden,
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: I were at Temple, Were you guys three and nine
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: first year. First you were two and ten, two and ten. Yeah,
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: but then after after a while you said, you guys
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: be Penn State. You guys were ranked right and stuff
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: like that. So how do you see it going in
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: Nebraska the first year? Cause two years ago best three
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: and nine team in the in the NCAA argue with that, well, well,
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: I don't think it's even arguable anymore.
- 1:13:10Speaker 3: People still like to argue it, yeah, because people like
- 1:13:12Speaker 3: to punch up.
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's just yeah, it's factual. And so then
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: last year it just didn't go as well as possible.
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: There's a lot of turmoil. Obviously, Scott Frosketty fired earlier
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: in the year. You guys lose off American soil, it
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: does not count. But that's maybe put you in a
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: little bit of a spin, right, So now, like you're
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: looking at your roster. One of your big time leaders
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: was a Garrett Nelson, that's his name goes to the NFL,
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: who like, when we spoke to him in spring, he
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: was like lived, breathed corn, like he was the example
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: of like, yes, black shirt, yeah, black shirts, and so
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: who do you I mean, we're not gonna talk about
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: your roster, because I don't even know the guys on there,
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: and I would never ask you to speak about your guys,
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: But how do you see it go your guys? This guys,
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: how do you see it going in this first year? Yeah?
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: Because you got some winnable games the first three games.
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: That fourth one is gonna be tough, but that you
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: can you have an opportunity to possibly be three and
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: l going into the bus and bowl.
- 1:14:07Speaker 3: That's you know what I'll say this.
- 1:14:09Speaker 5: I always look like I always said to myself, when
- 1:14:11Speaker 5: you go to a place, the first thing you have
- 1:14:12Speaker 5: to do is established, like the foundations of how do
- 1:14:14Speaker 5: we work? So I went to Temple had been I
- 1:14:17Speaker 5: had been an assistant coach the year before. I left
- 1:14:19Speaker 5: and went one year of the Giants and came right
- 1:14:20Speaker 5: back to be the head coach. But we were moving
- 1:14:23Speaker 5: up in conference. They were going from the Mac to
- 1:14:26Speaker 5: the kind of the biggie slash American as it was
- 1:14:27Speaker 5: for me. So there was a there was like a
- 1:14:30Speaker 5: we go up in conference something you know hard. So
- 1:14:32Speaker 5: we went to high school four and now you're going
- 1:14:33Speaker 5: up to five as so like we were playing better competitions.
- 1:14:36Speaker 5: The roster had to catch up, so you're two and ten.
- 1:14:39Speaker 3: I played.
- 1:14:40Speaker 5: I just played all the freshmen. I said, I'm gonna
- 1:14:42Speaker 5: play these guys, and then four years were gonna win
- 1:14:43Speaker 5: a championship, and we did right. I played the seat
- 1:14:48Speaker 5: saying I played the seniors that wanted to do it
- 1:14:49Speaker 5: my way, and some of them were awesome. I just
- 1:14:51Speaker 5: inserted a lot of the young guys as well. When
- 1:14:54Speaker 5: I went to Baylor, there was I think forty five
- 1:14:55Speaker 5: scholarship players. We had three offensive linemen. I moved the
- 1:14:58Speaker 5: two tight ends. I moved one to center and I
- 1:15:00Speaker 5: moved one to left tackle. And so I was coming
- 1:15:03Speaker 5: taken over after a scandal, like we were one and eleven.
- 1:15:07Speaker 5: I mean, but it was it was hard, but that
- 1:15:10Speaker 5: was more about what the out the.
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: Experil was more of like a welcome mat in the
- 1:15:13Speaker 3: Big twelve. Yeah.
- 1:15:14Speaker 5: Well time well, and so it's just I was taking
- 1:15:16Speaker 5: over a hard place at a hard time. I was
- 1:15:17Speaker 5: just so I don't want this to be a slow burn.
- 1:15:20Speaker 5: I want to start off because I feel like that
- 1:15:22Speaker 5: year for them was last year. And the thing that
- 1:15:25Speaker 5: I respect about the team because because this opportunity was
- 1:15:28Speaker 5: around for a while and I was just watching games
- 1:15:30Speaker 5: and what I respected about Nebraska was the players. They
- 1:15:33Speaker 5: had just lost their coach, They had some tough losses
- 1:15:36Speaker 5: along the way, but they just kept battling, And like,
- 1:15:38Speaker 5: to me, that's half the battle. Like if you can
- 1:15:40Speaker 5: get a group of people to commit to playing hard
- 1:15:42Speaker 5: and fighting even when you're kind of out of bowl contention.
- 1:15:44Speaker 5: Like if you go to Iowa the last game of
- 1:15:46Speaker 5: the year and Iowa has to win that to go
- 1:15:48Speaker 5: to the Big Ten West and you beat them, there's
- 1:15:50Speaker 5: something in that locker.
- 1:15:51Speaker 3: Room so solid. It was both that.
- 1:15:57Speaker 5: Yeah, So I don't know, I don't know how good
- 1:15:59Speaker 5: we are. I don't only think, but like I just
- 1:16:01Speaker 5: know this. I know that we're starting from a place
- 1:16:03Speaker 5: of like a big, physical looking group, and I think
- 1:16:05Speaker 5: we've done a good job recruiting so far. And you know,
- 1:16:08Speaker 5: they change football on me and during my time away. Now,
- 1:16:11Speaker 5: like we're already up to like thirty two players that
- 1:16:13Speaker 5: we can sign. Like when I got to Bailer, I
- 1:16:14Speaker 5: can only sign twenty five twenties. You know, I can
- 1:16:16Speaker 5: find a way to sneak somebody, and they're kind of
- 1:16:18Speaker 5: some unique rules, but I have more options available to
- 1:16:22Speaker 5: me right now, So I'm excited, you know, I I
- 1:16:24Speaker 5: just want us to be the kind of a team,
- 1:16:26Speaker 5: and sometimes it's hard when you have a fan base
- 1:16:28Speaker 5: that's really passionate. I just wanted to be the kind
- 1:16:29Speaker 5: of team that's really humble, like, hey, we feel like
- 1:16:32Speaker 5: we can win every game. We also know we have
- 1:16:34Speaker 5: a chance to lose every game. So let's just let's
- 1:16:36Speaker 5: just work worry about today. Like I got guys talking
- 1:16:38Speaker 5: to me about the bowl games next year, I'm like, WHOA,
- 1:16:40Speaker 5: let's just go to the weight room.
- 1:16:41Speaker 3: Guys, Yeah, go to go eat cause I'll be handling that.
- 1:16:47Speaker 3: No matter what, you guys are going to a bowl
- 1:16:48Speaker 3: next year. No matter what, you guys will be in
- 1:16:49Speaker 3: a ball. You're the bust and bawl. Bust and Bawl.
- 1:16:51Speaker 3: We trained a bowl so we could be balls.
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: So no matter what, you guys will be in a bowl.
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: So you talk about bail, you're walking into a situation.
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: But if a scandal going on, it was an empty
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: roster to say the did your mindset change when you
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: walked into Nebraska and you're like, could we do this here?
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: Because when you walk into Baylor, I'm sure there's a
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: piece of you that's like this is a lot to
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: work with Yeah, this is a lot like how am
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: I going.
- 1:17:09Speaker 3: To make this work?
- 1:17:10Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm curious to why Nebraska? Like, again, you
- 1:17:13Speaker 2: come off a head coaching job in the NFL. I'm
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: sure you got your once you got fired. It was
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: like your name was everywhere for a lot of big
- 1:17:19Speaker 2: college jobs, and I'm just curious, like, yeah, why Nebraska?
- 1:17:21Speaker 3: What was so enticing about it? Yeah?
- 1:17:23Speaker 5: So to go there, I think for me, it's one
- 1:17:26Speaker 5: thing to go somewhere and try to take a program
- 1:17:28Speaker 5: to someplace they've never been. You know that this is
- 1:17:32Speaker 5: getting some a program back to where it has been,
- 1:17:35Speaker 5: and that's completely different because you know they have the resources.
- 1:17:38Speaker 5: You know, they've been there before, they've seen that rare air.
- 1:17:40Speaker 5: And so for me, it's like, Okay, they've done it,
- 1:17:42Speaker 5: so we know that. So what are my questions? Well,
- 1:17:44Speaker 5: do they have the facilities? Absolutely? Really, a big lesson
- 1:17:48Speaker 5: that I've learned is to make sure that I am
- 1:17:51Speaker 5: my plan is similar to the plan of the people
- 1:17:53Speaker 5: that I'm around. You know what happened in the NFL.
- 1:17:55Speaker 5: Like you, sometimes you have different views. And so when
- 1:17:58Speaker 5: I talked to the athletic writer Trev Albert, who had
- 1:18:00Speaker 5: played there, he believed in the same things I believed in.
- 1:18:03Speaker 5: So it's not like I'm trying to convince them, No,
- 1:18:05Speaker 5: this is the way to do it.
- 1:18:05Speaker 3: Trust me.
- 1:18:06Speaker 5: Like He's like, no, Matt, I see exactly what you
- 1:18:09Speaker 5: how you feel. Ted Carter, who's the president of the university,
- 1:18:13Speaker 5: Like when I talked to him, he was the admiral
- 1:18:15Speaker 5: at Navy when they were running, when they were rolling
- 1:18:18Speaker 5: in the triple option, and we went down there and
- 1:18:19Speaker 5: beat them, so he knew what my teams look like
- 1:18:21Speaker 5: at Temple. He was like, Matt, just build that team
- 1:18:23Speaker 5: here like that physical. Like I want to run the
- 1:18:25Speaker 5: ball and I want to play defense, and that's not
- 1:18:28Speaker 5: some fan bases don't really like that. Like some fan
- 1:18:30Speaker 5: bases like if you're not going no huddle spread, they
- 1:18:32Speaker 5: don't want to come to the games. Nebraska people want
- 1:18:35Speaker 5: us to run the football and play defense. They want
- 1:18:37Speaker 5: us to dominate the line of scrimmers. They want us
- 1:18:39Speaker 5: to be physical, and that's kind of who I've always been.
- 1:18:41Speaker 5: So those things all came together. But the biggest question
- 1:18:44Speaker 5: I had was can we recruit here? Like can I
- 1:18:46Speaker 5: get players here? And I actually looked at Michigan, I
- 1:18:49Speaker 5: looked at Ohio, State looked at Penn State and whereas
- 1:18:51Speaker 5: maybe maybe fifteen years ago Penn State or Ohio State,
- 1:18:55Speaker 5: you know, most of their kids came from that state.
- 1:18:58Speaker 5: Everyone's kind of recruited nationally now, right. So I went
- 1:19:01Speaker 5: back and said, let's watch the kids. There's some really
- 1:19:03Speaker 5: good football players Nebraska. I thought, hey, you know what,
- 1:19:06Speaker 5: we can get players. Because if we get good players there,
- 1:19:07Speaker 5: we'll coach them, I think, and we'll play hard and
- 1:19:09Speaker 5: we'll find a way to win. And I took a shot,
- 1:19:12Speaker 5: and my wife knew it the whole time. She's like,
- 1:19:13Speaker 5: this is the place for you.
- 1:19:14Speaker 3: Really?
- 1:19:15Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I've been married for twenty twenty four years,
- 1:19:17Speaker 5: twenty going on twenty fi Like, I've learned to listen
- 1:19:19Speaker 5: to her.
- 1:19:19Speaker 3: She said, this is the place for you.
- 1:19:20Speaker 5: This, this is where you fit because she knows the
- 1:19:22Speaker 5: way I want to play football. I want to go
- 1:19:24Speaker 5: out there and just make it a battle of physical wills.
- 1:19:27Speaker 5: And I think that resonates with people in Nebraska.
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: Yeah, well you got to go hear voice Nebraska doing well.
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: So if you're trying to sit down a foundation you wanted,
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: this is the way you want to play football. You
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: go up in the locker room right, and the old
- 1:19:41Speaker 1: line locker room in the Tenesseee Tians. That's speed off
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: the ball, physical toughness, like those are foundational pieces. What
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: do you what is day one implementation of making sure
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: your foundation is set?
- 1:19:51Speaker 3: At Nebraska?
- 1:19:52Speaker 5: So I I have about four things I believe and
- 1:19:55Speaker 5: then I'll talk about I had my first team meeting
- 1:19:57Speaker 5: last night, and I'm almos, guys, I don't want cameras
- 1:19:59Speaker 5: in be a camera follow me around. I wanted always
- 1:20:01Speaker 5: to be the players. But there's there's a there's a
- 1:20:05Speaker 5: book called The Greatest Salesman in the World biog Mandino.
- 1:20:08Speaker 5: In it, they have ten scrolls and there's one called
- 1:20:09Speaker 5: the Scroll mark three. It's I will persist until I succeed.
- 1:20:13Speaker 5: And at one point it says, it's just long. You
- 1:20:15Speaker 5: know if I read it to the team. I started
- 1:20:17Speaker 5: off by reading it to the team. Yeah, And it
- 1:20:18Speaker 5: basically says, you know, I am not a sheep. I
- 1:20:21Speaker 5: refuse to walk talk. I think like a sheep. The
- 1:20:23Speaker 5: slaughterhouse of failure is not my destiny. And it's so
- 1:20:26Speaker 5: it's like I am a lion, like so like so.
- 1:20:30Speaker 3: Like reading that out loud to me, I want to
- 1:20:31Speaker 3: keep hearing this.
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: Like I can't.
- 1:20:33Speaker 3: I can't do it. I have it on my phone.
- 1:20:34Speaker 5: But but that's like my life first, like, and that
- 1:20:37Speaker 5: goes back to I said what happened to me?
- 1:20:40Speaker 3: When I said happened, I got fired.
- 1:20:42Speaker 5: It was like all these things I've been saying to
- 1:20:43Speaker 5: players forever, Hey, control what you can control. I have
- 1:20:45Speaker 5: this little saying like what's next, Like, Hey, what's whatever happened?
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: Good Bye? What's next?
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: One.
- 1:20:49Speaker 8: I literally had to wake up every morning and.
- 1:20:50Speaker 3: Go what's next? Control?
- 1:20:52Speaker 5: So I I am so clear minded now, like hey, guys,
- 1:20:56Speaker 5: like all we're gonna ask you guys to do not
- 1:20:58Speaker 5: be perfect. I'm gonna be perfect. I'm just be a
- 1:21:00Speaker 5: lion every day, attack everything in your life. And that's
- 1:21:03Speaker 5: really how I see it. So you know our core
- 1:21:05Speaker 5: values that we want to be tough, we want to
- 1:21:07Speaker 5: be hard working, we want to be competitive. I mean
- 1:21:08Speaker 5: I want them to compete at everything they do. I
- 1:21:10Speaker 5: want them to work hard, and I want them to
- 1:21:11Speaker 5: be tough. I want them to overcome overcome the excuses
- 1:21:15Speaker 5: of life and just attack everything in their lives.
- 1:21:17Speaker 3: And so if they are.
- 1:21:19Speaker 5: Those three things, tough, are working, competitive, then we'll be well,
- 1:21:21Speaker 5: we'll build a big physical team that's that sound and
- 1:21:25Speaker 5: smart and accountable.
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: I'm just so, hey, hey, that was some fire ship. Yeah,
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: Like that was from a book though with energy. Like
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: some people can just read a book and be like,
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: oh that's cool. But the way you said it, Hey,
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: the boys are gonna play next year.
- 1:21:42Speaker 3: What were when you did come into Nebraska.
- 1:21:44Speaker 2: What were some things that you're like, all right, I'm
- 1:21:46Speaker 2: gonna have to, you know, address these things, Like what
- 1:21:48Speaker 2: were some issues coming into Nebraska that you identified that
- 1:21:52Speaker 2: you you want to hit head on.
- 1:21:53Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think the biggest thing for me is
- 1:21:57Speaker 5: making sure that all the all the most up to
- 1:22:01Speaker 5: date training and recovery modalities are part of our process,
- 1:22:06Speaker 5: you know, like everything from massage work bodywork to cupping
- 1:22:12Speaker 5: to scraping to sensory deprivation tanks.
- 1:22:16Speaker 3: I really believe in all this stuff.
- 1:22:17Speaker 5: I believe that one of the most important jobs for
- 1:22:20Speaker 5: me is to make sure my players are as healthy
- 1:22:22Speaker 5: as possible and the culture of recovery and regeneration all that,
- 1:22:26Speaker 5: like either A, schools have a bunch of stuff but
- 1:22:28Speaker 5: guys don't use it, or b they don't have it,
- 1:22:31Speaker 5: And so I think, you know, one of the things
- 1:22:32Speaker 5: I can do for these guys is really help them
- 1:22:34Speaker 5: with that process. Like the reason I had a chance
- 1:22:37Speaker 5: to be a head coach in the NFL was because
- 1:22:38Speaker 5: I had so many guys in mind that were kind
- 1:22:40Speaker 5: of later round drafted guys that went.
- 1:22:42Speaker 3: To the NFL that were ready to be pros.
- 1:22:44Speaker 5: And you know, anybody can get you to the NFL,
- 1:22:46Speaker 5: but who can teach you how to be a pro. Like,
- 1:22:48Speaker 5: who can get it to where you get a second contract.
- 1:22:50Speaker 8: One of my.
- 1:22:50Speaker 5: Goals for my guys is to always make five million
- 1:22:54Speaker 5: dollars after the rookie contract. Like that to me is
- 1:22:56Speaker 5: a goal, like get through your rookie contract, let's make
- 1:22:58Speaker 5: five million more with your second contract, and then then
- 1:23:01Speaker 5: after that it's all gravy.
- 1:23:02Speaker 8: So I look at it like, how do I invest
- 1:23:05Speaker 8: that into them?
- 1:23:06Speaker 5: Well, I put all those we have all these resources,
- 1:23:08Speaker 5: Let's not spend them on waterfalls for recruiting. Let's spend
- 1:23:11Speaker 5: them on things that can help our guys train, let's recover,
- 1:23:14Speaker 5: be as healthy as possible. And so that to me
- 1:23:17Speaker 5: is something that if we do that at a high level,
- 1:23:19Speaker 5: will really help our players because healthy team wins a
- 1:23:22Speaker 5: lot more games.
- 1:23:22Speaker 3: And so.
- 1:23:24Speaker 5: That was one of the biggest things. And I just think,
- 1:23:26Speaker 5: you know what, just be in there for the guys,
- 1:23:28Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Like at the end of
- 1:23:30Speaker 5: the day, Like, at the end of the day, I
- 1:23:32Speaker 5: didn't I don't have to coach.
- 1:23:34Speaker 8: Like I had four years left in my contract.
- 1:23:35Speaker 5: I could have gone and done like a TV show maybe,
- 1:23:37Speaker 5: or play golf or something.
- 1:23:38Speaker 3: I'm only coaching because Thailand.
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: Whatever you want, Yeah, live your life. That's exactly right.
- 1:23:45Speaker 5: So like I'm doing this because I truly feel like
- 1:23:47Speaker 5: passionate about Hey, I want to work with young people,
- 1:23:50Speaker 5: and I want to do it at a place that
- 1:23:53Speaker 5: that that jibes with me, and that's why I found
- 1:23:55Speaker 5: it Nebraska. So I think the best thing I can do, man,
- 1:23:58Speaker 5: is just really lock in with these guys. Because the
- 1:24:00Speaker 5: hardest thing I said it to my the first time
- 1:24:02Speaker 5: when I got hired, I say, hey, guys, listen, I
- 1:24:04Speaker 5: know you guys. I know you guys didn't choose me,
- 1:24:07Speaker 5: because I get that, so but just remember us, I
- 1:24:09Speaker 5: chose you. I want to be here with you, guys,
- 1:24:11Speaker 5: So I hope you stay. Very few guys going to
- 1:24:13Speaker 5: the portal.
- 1:24:14Speaker 3: I'm not one of those.
- 1:24:14Speaker 8: I didn't walk in say, y'all need to get in
- 1:24:16Speaker 8: the portal or changing all this those.
- 1:24:20Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not bringing my own baggage, Louis. Those guys welcome.
- 1:24:24Speaker 3: I care about them.
- 1:24:25Speaker 5: Those guys care about Nebraska, right, and they're good kids.
- 1:24:27Speaker 5: Like my son's eighteen, he's going. All I want for
- 1:24:30Speaker 5: my son at eighteen is for him to go off
- 1:24:31Speaker 5: and be around good people who care about him. All
- 1:24:33Speaker 5: I went, So, shouldn't I do the same thing for
- 1:24:34Speaker 5: the guys I'm coaching and recruit and I should be
- 1:24:36Speaker 5: a good guy for them.
- 1:24:37Speaker 3: If you do that, you win games.
- 1:24:39Speaker 5: Like everyone thinks, well, if I get this may stuff,
- 1:24:41Speaker 5: If you treat young people right and and give them
- 1:24:44Speaker 5: what they need to be successful, you'll be successful as
- 1:24:46Speaker 5: a team.
- 1:24:46Speaker 3: I believe that.
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: I don't mean to put you on the spot with this,
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: but ultimately that's what this question is. But a lot
- 1:24:53Speaker 2: of recruits and you know it like you sit in houses,
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: you sit in these uh you know, you sit in
- 1:24:57Speaker 2: living rooms, talk to parents and talk about.
- 1:25:00Speaker 3: I chose you.
- 1:25:01Speaker 2: What does that mean when you could easily have you know,
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: maybe you get another opportunity to go back in the
- 1:25:08Speaker 2: NFL after a couple of years. Yeah, or to Penn
- 1:25:11Speaker 2: State your alm like, yeah, sure, yeah, Penn State your
- 1:25:13Speaker 2: alma monitor. After like a couple of years of dominating
- 1:25:15Speaker 2: and winning to big the championships and natties at Nebraska,
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: what if those shiny new toys come into your life
- 1:25:22Speaker 2: to want to pluck you out and go back to
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: the NFL.
- 1:25:24Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
- 1:25:25Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of guys like that's the
- 1:25:26Speaker 2: whole big thing around the portal, right, It's it's a
- 1:25:28Speaker 2: reason why players argue about all the nil stuff and
- 1:25:32Speaker 2: everything else. Coaches get these opportunities to come in they
- 1:25:35Speaker 2: establish themselves in the seat as a head coach. I
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: know for me, you know, I like chose Nebraska because
- 1:25:40Speaker 2: of the staff and like hindsight, like I've listened to
- 1:25:42Speaker 2: Verbele talk about and everything else. You want to choose
- 1:25:44Speaker 2: a school based on the school because you never know
- 1:25:46Speaker 2: with some of the coaches. Yeah, speak on that because
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: I know for me, like you could you could easily
- 1:25:54Speaker 2: get me to go somewhere because I'm like, oh man,
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: I want to play for boat plenty. But you know
- 1:25:57Speaker 2: there are probably times where he might have left had
- 1:25:59Speaker 2: he had the right opportunity.
- 1:26:01Speaker 5: I think it's really hard because you know, I don't
- 1:26:03Speaker 5: want to be a hypocrite because I've left twice. Yeah, okay,
- 1:26:05Speaker 5: so I'll just say this, like, even after I left Temple,
- 1:26:09Speaker 5: I went back like the next day and watch practice.
- 1:26:10Speaker 5: I get rid of the ball game, and I got
- 1:26:12Speaker 5: most of the guys were good with it. They understood
- 1:26:15Speaker 5: like I came there. We built up from two to ten.
- 1:26:18Speaker 5: We went to the championship game, we lost. I had
- 1:26:22Speaker 5: a chance to take a bunch of jobs. I did,
- 1:26:23Speaker 5: and I came back. We finished the deal. We won
- 1:26:25Speaker 5: the championship the next year, and I felt like I did.
- 1:26:28Speaker 5: I left the place better than I found it, and
- 1:26:31Speaker 5: I moved on to a new challenge, you know, to
- 1:26:33Speaker 5: go to Baylor. And I think most of the guys
- 1:26:35Speaker 5: were good with it. But it's still hard, right, So
- 1:26:37Speaker 5: I get that. I went to Baylor and was like, okay,
- 1:26:40Speaker 5: we took over a scander bit in program. We went
- 1:26:41Speaker 5: one to eleven, and then we went six and seven
- 1:26:44Speaker 5: and six, then we went eleven and three, went to
- 1:26:46Speaker 5: the Sugar Bowl. I went to the conversation machine, went
- 1:26:48Speaker 5: to the Sugar Bowl. So I think most times I've left,
- 1:26:51Speaker 5: I've always gone for something like a step up in competition.
- 1:26:54Speaker 5: So I think the guys got it. But I don't
- 1:26:56Speaker 5: need to move anymore, you know, like I also have.
- 1:26:59Speaker 5: I I've seen what it does to my kids, and
- 1:27:01Speaker 5: I've seen what it does to my family to have
- 1:27:03Speaker 5: to you know, like you know, to have to move
- 1:27:05Speaker 5: this many times. And so that was part of this deal,
- 1:27:07Speaker 5: was like, hey, where can we go and be for
- 1:27:09Speaker 5: a while. That being said, you know, I have to
- 1:27:12Speaker 5: answer that question for recruits because I've done it.
- 1:27:14Speaker 3: I've done it a couple of times.
- 1:27:16Speaker 5: And you know, I don't I don't know that. I
- 1:27:18Speaker 5: don't know that I'm you know, I don't know that
- 1:27:19Speaker 5: I'll ever go back to the NFL. I don't know
- 1:27:21Speaker 5: that that's in my heart, Like I don't. I don't
- 1:27:22Speaker 5: know if I'll ever reconcile the business part of it
- 1:27:25Speaker 5: for me, Like it's just it just was really hard
- 1:27:27Speaker 5: for me to cut players and to be involved in that,
- 1:27:29Speaker 5: Like it just it just didn't connect with me like
- 1:27:32Speaker 5: I thought of it. I loved when I was assistant
- 1:27:34Speaker 5: online coach of the Giants and I was just in
- 1:27:35Speaker 5: the room with the Fellas and Christine and David Deal
- 1:27:37Speaker 5: and all those guys. I loved it, Like I loved
- 1:27:40Speaker 5: that brotherhood, that community in there.
- 1:27:41Speaker 3: I did not.
- 1:27:42Speaker 5: The role that I was in was really hard for me.
- 1:27:44Speaker 5: At Nebraska, I I am.
- 1:27:46Speaker 3: I am.
- 1:27:47Speaker 5: I get to make the decisions you know that I
- 1:27:49Speaker 5: can make along with it those and I get to
- 1:27:50Speaker 5: develop those guys and watch them grow. I think it's
- 1:27:53Speaker 5: more who I was. I I believe in transfer portal.
- 1:27:55Speaker 5: I believe guys should have a chance to go where
- 1:27:56Speaker 5: they want to go. I believe in and I believe.
- 1:27:58Speaker 5: I just think what happens is sometimes adults we take
- 1:28:01Speaker 5: advantage of a rule meant to help a young person,
- 1:28:03Speaker 5: we turn into something it doesn't have to be, Like,
- 1:28:06Speaker 5: let's let's give guys an opportunity to make money off
- 1:28:08Speaker 5: their name, Let's get guys, give guys an opportunity to
- 1:28:10Speaker 5: go to school where they want to go to school.
- 1:28:12Speaker 5: It's just not abuse it. You know, we're supposed to
- 1:28:13Speaker 5: be the adults. We're supposed to set a good example.
- 1:28:16Speaker 5: Like I shouldn't be calling a guy in your roster saying, hey,
- 1:28:18Speaker 5: come play for me, Like if he's happy there, let
- 1:28:21Speaker 5: him be happy there, I mean unhappy and he wants
- 1:28:22Speaker 5: to go in the portal.
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: Fine, all's fair in love and war though, well, meantimes
- 1:28:27Speaker 1: you gotta do businesses.
- 1:28:27Speaker 3: Business is being done.
- 1:28:28Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, but like at the end of
- 1:28:31Speaker 5: the day, like someone's gonna come recruit your guys' kids
- 1:28:34Speaker 5: some day. Let's say they say the first thing I
- 1:28:35Speaker 5: say is hey, I want to help you be the
- 1:28:36Speaker 5: best man you can be to But then they start
- 1:28:38Speaker 5: that off by the first thing they do is cheap.
- 1:28:40Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
- 1:28:40Speaker 5: I'm almost like like the money the wins that will
- 1:28:43Speaker 5: come and go. When we're all old, we'll look back
- 1:28:45Speaker 5: and say, like, you know, who was I? Not what
- 1:28:47Speaker 5: did I do?
- 1:28:47Speaker 3: But who?
- 1:28:48Speaker 5: I really believe that who was I? And maybe it's
- 1:28:50Speaker 5: good for me because, as I said, I've been I've
- 1:28:52Speaker 5: won some coaching a Coach of the Year awards, I've
- 1:28:54Speaker 5: been fired. I've seen both sides of it, and it's
- 1:28:56Speaker 5: like there has to be something more other than just this.
- 1:28:58Speaker 5: Now I'm gonna compete at the bighest level. I'm gonna
- 1:29:00Speaker 5: do everything I can. I just think, you know, sometimes
- 1:29:03Speaker 5: when we do this, does we tamper with a kid
- 1:29:05Speaker 5: to come here? Sometimes we mess their lives up. Sometimes
- 1:29:08Speaker 5: we get them out of a good situation into a
- 1:29:10Speaker 5: worse situation, and we're responsible for that as adults. So
- 1:29:13Speaker 5: hopefully I'm doing it the right way. It's really hard
- 1:29:15Speaker 5: because there's the lines are very blurred right now, and
- 1:29:17Speaker 5: you know what's legal it's not. I just think I'll
- 1:29:20Speaker 5: do whatever I can to win in Nebraska as long
- 1:29:22Speaker 5: as it's both legal and ethical, if I can live
- 1:29:24Speaker 5: with it, if I can say that's that's the right
- 1:29:26Speaker 5: thing to do. We have some rules, like if I
- 1:29:27Speaker 5: saw a junior in high school, I can't talk to him.
- 1:29:30Speaker 5: I think that's that doesn't make any sense to me.
- 1:29:31Speaker 5: I can do I can't do that, but his agent
- 1:29:33Speaker 5: can call me and say he needs five hundred thousand
- 1:29:34Speaker 5: dollars to come here. Like there's some rules that are antiquated.
- 1:29:38Speaker 5: I'm not worried about though. I'm talking about, you know,
- 1:29:41Speaker 5: making sure that we put in young people's their their
- 1:29:43Speaker 5: best interest at heart.
- 1:29:44Speaker 8: Are we really doing that or not? Like, especially at
- 1:29:46Speaker 8: a place like Nebraska.
- 1:29:47Speaker 5: If you do that, the players, I believe they will,
- 1:29:49Speaker 5: they will lay everything down for the corn Huskers.
- 1:29:52Speaker 3: To win if we do that. Amen.
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: So how do you navigate such as such a gray area?
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: Right now?
- 1:29:58Speaker 3: With nil deals?
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: Guys are getting money now and I don't believe coaches
- 1:30:01Speaker 1: can promise money, right, we can't promise money.
- 1:30:05Speaker 3: But to get in.
- 1:30:06Speaker 1: Nebraska, We've talked about this in the podcast. To get
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: in Nebraska to where it used to be, there's got
- 1:30:12Speaker 1: to be more of a selling point than Lincoln. Because
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: it's the Internet lives. You can see Miami and these
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: really nice climate areas, and guys, look at Nebraska in
- 1:30:21Speaker 1: the winter time. I've been there seven degrees it's freezing.
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: So how do you sell these kids in a legal
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: way to come to Nebraska to be great?
- 1:30:31Speaker 8: You do think I'm giving you coaching answers, but I really.
- 1:30:34Speaker 1: Think, first off, I think you're doing a phenomenal like this.
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: This podcast has truly fired me.
- 1:30:38Speaker 5: Up, so I don't I don't try to convince anybody
- 1:30:41Speaker 5: any more to come, because no one's gonna convince me
- 1:30:43Speaker 5: to come, right. I just try to tell people, like
- 1:30:45Speaker 5: what our plan is for them and what we have,
- 1:30:47Speaker 5: Like here's what we have, here's our plan for you,
- 1:30:48Speaker 5: like I think we do. I'll just say this, like
- 1:30:51Speaker 5: I talked to recruit, especially guys are think about transferred.
- 1:30:53Speaker 5: I'm like, if you want to be a lawyer, do
- 1:30:55Speaker 5: you go to medical school? No, if you want to
- 1:30:57Speaker 5: be a doctor, a doctor, do you go to law schoo.
- 1:31:00Speaker 5: So if you want to play in the NFL, why
- 1:31:01Speaker 5: woudn't you go somewhere that's going to prepare you for
- 1:31:03Speaker 5: the NFL. So like, if you want to go play
- 1:31:06Speaker 5: d line in the National Football League, well come play
- 1:31:08Speaker 5: for Terrence KnightMan who played for eight years and pot
- 1:31:11Speaker 5: Rose has still he still shows his bridgestone commercial every
- 1:31:13Speaker 5: chance he gets coached in the NFL, like, go play
- 1:31:17Speaker 5: for us with him God's strength. Coach came from the NFL.
- 1:31:19Speaker 5: I like, like, go somewhere that's going to prepare you
- 1:31:22Speaker 5: for that. So I think us doing a really good
- 1:31:24Speaker 5: job of showing people here's our plan for you. Everyone
- 1:31:26Speaker 5: can talk, everyone can talk slick like, here's our plan
- 1:31:29Speaker 5: for you.
- 1:31:29Speaker 8: Academic, here's our plan for you. Socially, here's our plan
- 1:31:32Speaker 8: for you.
- 1:31:33Speaker 5: And then the great recruiting has not changed in that
- 1:31:37Speaker 5: when the current players and the team tell you, hey,
- 1:31:39Speaker 5: they mean what they say.
- 1:31:40Speaker 3: You're gonna win.
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:31:41Speaker 5: You see a lot of schools having mass exoduses because
- 1:31:43Speaker 5: they got promised, maybe a lot, and the coach players
- 1:31:45Speaker 5: are like, hey, don't come here. They're not doing what
- 1:31:46Speaker 5: they said. I don't mind if a player doesn't like
- 1:31:48Speaker 5: what I say, but I can't live in a world
- 1:31:50Speaker 5: where they say we coach lied to me. You can
- 1:31:53Speaker 5: be disappointed with what I said. I might be wrong,
- 1:31:55Speaker 5: but I'm not gonna lie to you. And I think
- 1:31:57Speaker 5: that's again when you get to year eleven and you
- 1:31:59Speaker 5: have sort of the stability that I have, Like why
- 1:32:01Speaker 5: why did I ask for an eight year contract? Because
- 1:32:04Speaker 5: I don't want to have to bow to the whims
- 1:32:06Speaker 5: of like, well, if I don't win this game, we're
- 1:32:07Speaker 5: out after year two. I want to have the time,
- 1:32:10Speaker 5: not because I think we're not gonna win right away,
- 1:32:11Speaker 5: but I want the stability that people can say, I'm
- 1:32:13Speaker 5: gonna come there and play for him, and I can
- 1:32:16Speaker 5: do things the right way. But I just think if
- 1:32:18Speaker 5: I do a good job with the current players, then
- 1:32:21Speaker 5: more players will come. And you know, it's also about
- 1:32:23Speaker 5: finding the right guys, about finding guys that know, Hey,
- 1:32:25Speaker 5: this is what Lincoln, I'm not lying to you.
- 1:32:27Speaker 3: I'm bringing guys in. I got guys on visits right now.
- 1:32:29Speaker 5: It's actually fifty today, by the way, but it was
- 1:32:31Speaker 5: cold the last couple of days, and like, hey, this
- 1:32:33Speaker 5: is what it is man like can you do it
- 1:32:35Speaker 5: or not?
- 1:32:35Speaker 8: Like what happens when you get drafted by Cleveland? What
- 1:32:37Speaker 8: are you gonna do then?
- 1:32:38Speaker 3: Like if you can't handle.
- 1:32:39Speaker 5: This, then you probably not right for us, because going
- 1:32:41Speaker 5: back to what I said before, I want guys who
- 1:32:42Speaker 5: are lions, Like if you're worried about this, that and
- 1:32:45Speaker 5: the third, and you're probably not right for me because
- 1:32:46Speaker 5: I'm worried about I want to win, and I want
- 1:32:48Speaker 5: to see you get a degree, and I want to
- 1:32:50Speaker 5: see us win a championship like you'll see sometimes my
- 1:32:52Speaker 5: emoji game is a degree, a ring, and you know,
- 1:32:55Speaker 5: I try to find a shield one time, saying like,
- 1:32:58Speaker 5: those are three things I want for you, Like have
- 1:32:59Speaker 5: a great time, get an education, win a ring, and
- 1:33:02Speaker 5: go off and get drafted the NFL, make a ton
- 1:33:04Speaker 5: of money five million after your first contract.
- 1:33:06Speaker 2: Let's talk about your emoji game. Well, got you in
- 1:33:09Speaker 2: the emoji game? The secret emojis? Because Dave Portnoy would
- 1:33:11Speaker 2: hit me up and be like, hey, I think.
- 1:33:13Speaker 3: It could be.
- 1:33:14Speaker 2: It could be a tough look for coach rule not
- 1:33:16Speaker 2: not knowing what your age is. But he's out there
- 1:33:18Speaker 2: tweeting emojis. I don't know if he'll be able to
- 1:33:20Speaker 2: compete with Michigan. Michigan ain't out there tweeting emojis. So
- 1:33:23Speaker 2: this is your opportunity to talk about your emoji game
- 1:33:25Speaker 2: because you got a little.
- 1:33:26Speaker 5: Subtle Yeah, I just say, uh, I got recruits asking
- 1:33:30Speaker 5: me to at them, like like I I will. I
- 1:33:33Speaker 5: can say people's names now, right, So Malci Coleman goes
- 1:33:35Speaker 5: on his visit to another school.
- 1:33:37Speaker 8: He comes back the last night. You can come see
- 1:33:38Speaker 8: as he comes in.
- 1:33:39Speaker 3: With the Colorado. Okay, I'm trying not to say too much.
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: Got my bag.
- 1:33:44Speaker 3: I don't want anybody I want.
- 1:33:45Speaker 5: I don't want any smoke, any problems. But but now
- 1:33:49Speaker 5: he comes in any play ping pong r. I'm a
- 1:33:51Speaker 5: big believer in Ping pong. I think like you have
- 1:33:54Speaker 5: to put your phone down when you play it right.
- 1:33:55Speaker 5: You can't have your earphones in when you play it right.
- 1:33:57Speaker 5: Like I've just seen it transform locker rooms. Like so
- 1:34:00Speaker 5: I put ping pong tables in the lounge everything like
- 1:34:03Speaker 5: like to me, everything goes from like nah, we don't
- 1:34:05Speaker 5: really talk to him all of a sudden, like you're
- 1:34:07Speaker 5: good and you're good always play each other right.
- 1:34:08Speaker 3: So like I love the game.
- 1:34:10Speaker 5: So I play him, I beat him, and he's like coaching, Hey,
- 1:34:13Speaker 5: tweet tweet that out, but tweet it and emoji, So
- 1:34:15Speaker 5: you know what, I got.
- 1:34:16Speaker 3: A lot of people, a lot of people have been
- 1:34:17Speaker 3: kind of fired up about it. I'm kind of that's
- 1:34:19Speaker 3: how it started.
- 1:34:20Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and if you go back to Baylor, I
- 1:34:21Speaker 5: would do it every once in a while, like when
- 1:34:23Speaker 5: I had a subtle hint for maybe another coach something like,
- 1:34:25Speaker 5: you know, I'm never gonna talk trash about but sometimes
- 1:34:27Speaker 5: I have to. Like I'm not a sheep either, right,
- 1:34:29Speaker 5: so I can't if I feel like you're coming at
- 1:34:31Speaker 5: me in the wrong way and recruiting, I would maybe
- 1:34:33Speaker 5: do something that they could kind of get. But uh
- 1:34:35Speaker 5: so I've been trying to do I'm trying to just
- 1:34:36Speaker 5: do it a little bit here and there. But haters
- 1:34:38Speaker 5: are gonna hate. People are gonna say whatever. You know,
- 1:34:40Speaker 5: it is what it is.
- 1:34:41Speaker 3: So what happens when you're fucking popping?
- 1:34:42Speaker 1: The emojis are the modern day morse code. Yeah, you
- 1:34:46Speaker 1: descriptions they're trying to decipher. Ay you hear him talking
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: about the ping pong tables.
- 1:34:50Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always headlines each year where there's a new
- 1:34:53Speaker 2: coaching staff or something where there could be ping pong
- 1:34:55Speaker 2: tables in a locker room. They get taken out, YadA, YadA, YadA,
- 1:34:58Speaker 2: and so on. You're kind of the first coach. I mean,
- 1:35:01Speaker 2: we had them in Washington, but you're kind of the
- 1:35:02Speaker 2: first coach I've heard be like, oh, I'm pro I
- 1:35:04Speaker 2: get a ping punk table And.
- 1:35:06Speaker 3: What are we talking about?
- 1:35:07Speaker 5: Like you know what you'll lose because someone jumps off
- 1:35:09Speaker 5: sides or someone drops the ball. The coach tries to
- 1:35:11Speaker 5: be clever and comes up with ten new plays like
- 1:35:13Speaker 5: like don't we want guys, Like don't we want guys
- 1:35:16Speaker 5: to be around each other? Like and that's hard now
- 1:35:18Speaker 5: in the era of phone sometimes so like everyone looking
- 1:35:20Speaker 5: at their phone. So anything I can do, whether it's food,
- 1:35:23Speaker 5: whether it's golf, whether it's My.
- 1:35:25Speaker 8: First two years in the NFL was COVID. Like this
- 1:35:27Speaker 8: past year I was.
- 1:35:27Speaker 5: Able to like go out and play golf with Shaq
- 1:35:29Speaker 5: Thompson and Christian and Corbett Johnny Hecker, who might be
- 1:35:33Speaker 5: the one of the coolest dudes ever to hang out with.
- 1:35:34Speaker 5: Like how much fun that was just to get to
- 1:35:37Speaker 5: know them as people After the craziness of COVID. So
- 1:35:40Speaker 5: why I missed that so much? You know, you go
- 1:35:42Speaker 5: to the NFL and COVID it was so hard, Like
- 1:35:45Speaker 5: I want, I want to come to I want to
- 1:35:47Speaker 5: spend time with the guys. I don't want to sit
- 1:35:48Speaker 5: in my office all day like looking at a computer.
- 1:35:49Speaker 5: I want to I want to hang out with the fellas. Right,
- 1:35:51Speaker 5: I'm always gonna be the coach, and I'm all, I'm
- 1:35:54Speaker 5: forty seven, almost forty eight, like I'm never gonna be.
- 1:35:56Speaker 8: But I'm not gonna try to relate on things I
- 1:35:58Speaker 8: can't relate on.
- 1:35:59Speaker 5: But yeah, let's go compete. I'll fight you to the
- 1:36:01Speaker 5: death on the ping pong table. If we won't play racketball,
- 1:36:04Speaker 5: fight you to the death, like I want you to compete.
- 1:36:06Speaker 5: I'm gonna compete with you and that to me build
- 1:36:08Speaker 5: some relationships.
- 1:36:10Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you want to see some cast
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: in the locker room, get a kids basketball hoop and
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: so many basketball will go off.
- 1:36:16Speaker 3: No doubt.
- 1:36:16Speaker 1: We put u.
- 1:36:17Speaker 3: We also down. We made like four square.
- 1:36:19Speaker 1: All started using the basketballs lines out the door during
- 1:36:22Speaker 1: camp out the door.
- 1:36:23Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, dudes love the ping pong. They love the
- 1:36:26Speaker 3: ping pong. Tressway is the best ping pong player.
- 1:36:28Speaker 2: I've ever seen play really ever ever seen really Yeah,
- 1:36:31Speaker 2: Tressway the punter, sound like you're kind of good though.
- 1:36:33Speaker 5: Yeah, are you pretty good? I'm when we're in Carolina,
- 1:36:37Speaker 5: like Christian was better than me. Andre Roberts, oh, Andre
- 1:36:41Speaker 5: Rogers scratch golfer, and then elite ping pong player then
- 1:36:45Speaker 5: like the specialist.
- 1:36:45Speaker 3: But don't you know J J. Jansen?
- 1:36:47Speaker 5: But I don't know if they count because they're not
- 1:36:48Speaker 5: going to meetings really right, Yeah, they're playing all day.
- 1:36:50Speaker 3: I mean JJ's in elite. You hate those guys the
- 1:36:52Speaker 3: most during camp?
- 1:36:53Speaker 5: Well they just yeah, I mean yeah, you know, Johnny, guys,
- 1:36:56Speaker 5: I missed you.
- 1:36:57Speaker 1: Like go to the movies. I'm like dying at a
- 1:36:58Speaker 1: two thirty meeting, like, fucked, dude, it's awful.
- 1:37:01Speaker 5: Johnny Hecker's over there putting, you know. I mean he's
- 1:37:03Speaker 5: an elite golfer. So but I'm I'm pretty good, not great.
- 1:37:07Speaker 5: I'm pretty good playing that case. There's a table over
- 1:37:10Speaker 5: here and on a tre No, no, no, no, no, I'm
- 1:37:12Speaker 5: pretty good.
- 1:37:12Speaker 3: You wold my ass. I'm not like that on the
- 1:37:14Speaker 3: ping pongk I wish it was.
- 1:37:15Speaker 1: No.
- 1:37:15Speaker 3: I can't play pool. I can't I can't billiards or anything.
- 1:37:19Speaker 3: I just can't make it go with a nice little
- 1:37:21Speaker 3: player's lounge in the breath. That is a nice little
- 1:37:24Speaker 3: Papa shot thing too. Yeah. Yeah, it's got all the
- 1:37:26Speaker 3: bells and whistles.
- 1:37:27Speaker 2: And we'd circle around the big uh what's it called
- 1:37:30Speaker 2: big TV?
- 1:37:31Speaker 3: What's it called it? Pulls down projector nice?
- 1:37:33Speaker 2: We'd circle around the projector on those couches and we'd
- 1:37:36Speaker 2: be playing back when it was like Percy Harvin on
- 1:37:38Speaker 2: the Gators. Percy Harvin on the Gators. You play that
- 1:37:41Speaker 2: part return mode on n C double A. I think
- 1:37:43Speaker 2: it was fourteen, right, I don't, I mean, personally, might
- 1:37:46Speaker 2: have been sooner than that.
- 1:37:46Speaker 3: But players lounge man, some good old times there. He
- 1:37:50Speaker 3: gets old xboxes and then ever be fun. You should
- 1:37:52Speaker 3: NCAA fourteen for all the guys. They would love that.
- 1:37:55Speaker 3: That's so much fun. I'm back at some point here
- 1:37:57Speaker 3: sooner or no. I think it's point twenty four, right.
- 1:38:00Speaker 3: I just Bill.
- 1:38:02Speaker 5: Walsh's college football me at Penn State nineteen ninety seven.
- 1:38:04Speaker 5: I played with eighty three Auburn Bo Jackson, unstoppable. I
- 1:38:08Speaker 5: was about his game a long time all the time.
- 1:38:12Speaker 2: How has you were in college before you went to
- 1:38:15Speaker 2: the NFL. Obviously, now you're back in college, the world's
- 1:38:17Speaker 2: completely changed with the NIL How how eye opening? How
- 1:38:21Speaker 2: have you been navigating those waters?
- 1:38:22Speaker 3: Being like, Holy fuck?
- 1:38:23Speaker 2: This is it seems to me like it's a free
- 1:38:25Speaker 2: agency twenty four to seven at the college level, Like
- 1:38:28Speaker 2: it's not even it's not even NFL world where you
- 1:38:30Speaker 2: have three year contracts that you can't break whether you
- 1:38:32Speaker 2: overperform or not.
- 1:38:33Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:38:34Speaker 3: Yes, the wild West of college football right now.
- 1:38:37Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know, it's hard for me to
- 1:38:39Speaker 5: say because I'm just getting started with it. I think
- 1:38:41Speaker 5: as I go through a couple of years will be
- 1:38:43Speaker 5: I'll probably have a better feel for you know exactly
- 1:38:45Speaker 5: what I think about everything. At his core, I believe
- 1:38:48Speaker 5: in it right, Like it's funny. I was talking to
- 1:38:50Speaker 5: RG three like a couple of weeks ago. I was like,
- 1:38:51Speaker 5: can you imagine they would have had this when you
- 1:38:53Speaker 5: played how much my good makes so much money? I
- 1:38:55Speaker 5: do he would have I mean, it would been it
- 1:38:57Speaker 5: would have been an insane So at his core, I
- 1:39:00Speaker 5: believe in it. You know, one thing I've says, I
- 1:39:03Speaker 5: want guys to get taken care of as long as
- 1:39:04Speaker 5: they're coming for the right reasons because you.
- 1:39:06Speaker 8: Know, I know this, I know how hard I'm gonna work.
- 1:39:08Speaker 5: I expect my staff to work for each guy, like
- 1:39:11Speaker 5: as a person, like to give them what they need.
- 1:39:13Speaker 5: And so I want them to want that. They got
- 1:39:15Speaker 5: to want the football, they gotta want the academic. If
- 1:39:17Speaker 5: they want all that, then if they get taken care of,
- 1:39:19Speaker 5: you know, over here, then great, I'm all for it.
- 1:39:23Speaker 5: You know, I'm also a guy that kind of wants
- 1:39:24Speaker 5: everyone to get taken care of, like I watch for
- 1:39:26Speaker 5: you know, I walked on at Penn State. I was
- 1:39:27Speaker 5: never a great player, so probably have a soft spot
- 1:39:29Speaker 5: in my heart for.
- 1:39:29Speaker 3: Guys who walk on.
- 1:39:31Speaker 5: But I always see those dudes out there doing everything
- 1:39:32Speaker 5: everyone else is doing, and they're paying to go to school,
- 1:39:35Speaker 5: and I'm like, man, I wish, you know, I like,
- 1:39:37Speaker 5: I've see some schools, are you know, do using some
- 1:39:39Speaker 5: of that ni Ol money to help those guys, which
- 1:39:41Speaker 5: I think is beautiful for a locker room. Because you
- 1:39:44Speaker 5: guys know this, but I say this to recruits all
- 1:39:46Speaker 5: the time. The NFL is so crazy. It's the only
- 1:39:47Speaker 5: job in the world where like the left guard and
- 1:39:49Speaker 5: the right guard or the left corner and the right corner.
- 1:39:52Speaker 5: They both have the same work schedule, they both have
- 1:39:55Speaker 5: the same assignments, they both have the same practice, they
- 1:39:58Speaker 5: both have the same risk to bodily. But yet this guy,
- 1:40:02Speaker 5: this left guard, plays for eighteen million and this guy
- 1:40:04Speaker 5: plays for six hundred and sixty thousand. Like if I
- 1:40:06Speaker 5: stop at Chick fil A on the way out of here,
- 1:40:08Speaker 5: like this one woman doesn't work for one hundred twenty
- 1:40:10Speaker 5: our dollars an hour and this guy works for twelve.
- 1:40:11Speaker 5: Like it doesn't work that way anywhere else in the world,
- 1:40:14Speaker 5: but it works that way in football. And so like
- 1:40:17Speaker 5: they need to learn early about value, Like, hey, you're
- 1:40:19Speaker 5: gonna get paid, and your value in the NFL is
- 1:40:21Speaker 5: going to come off of what you did in college.
- 1:40:23Speaker 5: Like Ryan Burns was All Pro for US as a
- 1:40:26Speaker 5: third year player. They didn't give him a raise. He
- 1:40:29Speaker 5: was playing off his rookie deal. So you got to
- 1:40:31Speaker 5: play well in college to make money in the NFL.
- 1:40:33Speaker 5: You got to play well your first four years to
- 1:40:35Speaker 5: make money on your second contract. So I think learning
- 1:40:37Speaker 5: about value is pretty good, But I just like it
- 1:40:41Speaker 5: when everyone, you know, if everyone could kind of get
- 1:40:42Speaker 5: taken care of and guys learn how to manage their
- 1:40:44Speaker 5: money right. You know, if you invest money at twenty two,
- 1:40:47Speaker 5: twenty three, twenty four, twenty five, your life could be
- 1:40:49Speaker 5: pretty good at sixty and sixty five. So when done
- 1:40:52Speaker 5: right with responsible you know, adults helping hopefully, hopefully, it
- 1:40:55Speaker 5: can be really good.
- 1:40:57Speaker 1: Can you guys put things in place to help with
- 1:40:59Speaker 1: financial stuff or does that have to be from a
- 1:41:00Speaker 1: third party. We can do all that.
- 1:41:01Speaker 5: We can do education, we can do a ton of it,
- 1:41:03Speaker 5: and our people have done it. You know, our people
- 1:41:05Speaker 5: at Nebraska are working really hard to have a really
- 1:41:07Speaker 5: good you know, for me, Like I didn't know much
- 1:41:10Speaker 5: about finances, you know, in college, I kind of just
- 1:41:12Speaker 5: got a credit card and all of a sudden, I
- 1:41:13Speaker 5: was like, oh wow, this is the piles so quickly,
- 1:41:15Speaker 5: you know.
- 1:41:16Speaker 8: So I wish I would have done a better job.
- 1:41:17Speaker 1: But general studies major, I know, I still don't know
- 1:41:19Speaker 1: what's going on.
- 1:41:20Speaker 3: I'm doing the best I can. But yeah, and I'm
- 1:41:22Speaker 3: with you, you.
- 1:41:22Speaker 5: Know, so I think we can do all that stuff.
- 1:41:25Speaker 5: You can provide all that education, and then you don't.
- 1:41:27Speaker 5: I like it when guys learn how to go out
- 1:41:29Speaker 5: and be entrepreneurs and market themselves. A true meaning of
- 1:41:32Speaker 5: it I like, go go go start something, you know,
- 1:41:34Speaker 5: go go build your brand so that you have something
- 1:41:37Speaker 5: after football.
- 1:41:38Speaker 1: Did you always have this mindset or is this like
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: a because you're changing with the times, because it's a
- 1:41:42Speaker 1: very new age coach mindset. You said, you're an old
- 1:41:44Speaker 1: school guy. You want to run the ball, play good defense.
- 1:41:47Speaker 1: But for a coach, the head coach to hear and like,
- 1:41:49Speaker 1: I want guys to market themselves. I want when we
- 1:41:51Speaker 1: were in college, it was what are you guys doing
- 1:41:53Speaker 1: on Twitter? You don't need to you don't need to
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: be on that.
- 1:41:55Speaker 3: It almost took it for almost like a couple of times.
- 1:41:57Speaker 1: Yeah, and so now it's become like you guys need
- 1:41:59Speaker 1: to be on this and do it, just do it smart.
- 1:42:02Speaker 1: And like has that been a thing for you that
- 1:42:04Speaker 1: you're like, guys should market themselves or has that changed
- 1:42:06Speaker 1: over time?
- 1:42:07Speaker 8: It's probably changed a little bit. I think there's something
- 1:42:08Speaker 8: to it.
- 1:42:09Speaker 3: Like I'll still see I'll.
- 1:42:10Speaker 5: See like a player who keeps retweeting every fan that
- 1:42:13Speaker 5: says something good about them, like, you know, here's what
- 1:42:15Speaker 5: I'm ranked. I'm like, but what are you doing, like
- 1:42:16Speaker 5: just worry about playing football? Like I don't necessarily mean
- 1:42:19Speaker 5: that like where you're just because kind of what I
- 1:42:21Speaker 5: talked about before, like if you only see your value
- 1:42:23Speaker 5: based upon what other people say about you, I just mean, like,
- 1:42:25Speaker 5: build a business, build connections. You know you want to
- 1:42:29Speaker 5: get you want to get into music, you want to
- 1:42:30Speaker 5: get into fashion, you want to get into education, whatever
- 1:42:32Speaker 5: you want to get into, Like build that brand, but
- 1:42:35Speaker 5: just just make sure you're also handling football first, and
- 1:42:38Speaker 5: make sure you're having your education first, like those things,
- 1:42:40Speaker 5: because your ultimate brand will come off of what you do, right,
- 1:42:43Speaker 5: like what you do on the football field, what you
- 1:42:44Speaker 5: do in the classroom.
- 1:42:45Speaker 3: So let's build that.
- 1:42:47Speaker 5: But on the side, I think it's awesome when guys
- 1:42:49Speaker 5: learn these things, and you know, part of it is
- 1:42:51Speaker 5: like the minute you know, as you guys know, the
- 1:42:53Speaker 5: minute you start getting paid in the NFL, then then
- 1:42:56Speaker 5: when the time comes, are gonna try to take the.
- 1:42:58Speaker 8: Money away from you. You know what I'm saying, Like you're good.
- 1:43:00Speaker 5: I've seen guys making eight million dollars all a sudden
- 1:43:02Speaker 5: they're cut, they're signing a minimum deal.
- 1:43:04Speaker 8: You have to learn how you have to learn all
- 1:43:06Speaker 8: that now.
- 1:43:06Speaker 5: And I probably didn't understand this probably as much before
- 1:43:09Speaker 5: I went to the NFL, and I'm so glad we
- 1:43:11Speaker 5: can't get involved in an IL because I think, you know,
- 1:43:14Speaker 5: a guy has a contract, he doesn't like walking in
- 1:43:16Speaker 5: the locker room. A guy you pay someone else instead
- 1:43:18Speaker 5: of him. I was really glad that I wasn't handling
- 1:43:20Speaker 5: all that. So when guys walk in the locker room,
- 1:43:22Speaker 5: I'm like with me, bro, it's these guys over here.
- 1:43:25Speaker 5: And I also going back to me and my ability
- 1:43:27Speaker 5: to move, Like, I make a lot of money. Our
- 1:43:29Speaker 5: coaches make a lot of money, so it's hard for
- 1:43:31Speaker 5: me to say I'm gonna make a lot of money.
- 1:43:32Speaker 5: But hey, I don't want the players getting anything that
- 1:43:34Speaker 5: just doesn't seem right to me. I mean, Football's opened
- 1:43:37Speaker 5: up doors I never thought I would have. I want
- 1:43:39Speaker 5: the doors open for my guys as well.
- 1:43:43Speaker 2: You said something you've said some before, but it's like,
- 1:43:45Speaker 2: you know, guy's retweeting what people say about them, your
- 1:43:47Speaker 2: perception and everything else.
- 1:43:48Speaker 3: You live for the cheers, you die by the booze.
- 1:43:49Speaker 2: It's like the moment you do have a bad game
- 1:43:51Speaker 2: and you are feeling feeding into that stuff, it's gonna
- 1:43:53Speaker 2: affect your psyche, which is something that you were alluding
- 1:43:56Speaker 2: to earlier when sitting and have a conversation with Matt
- 1:43:58Speaker 2: on guys like feeling like they're under a lot of
- 1:44:00Speaker 2: pressure and everything else.
- 1:44:01Speaker 3: But are you surprised.
- 1:44:04Speaker 2: By some of the I guess how naive guys can be.
- 1:44:09Speaker 3: Like high school recruits.
- 1:44:10Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like you're gonna go in thinking you're gonna
- 1:44:13Speaker 2: go in and meet somebody, set out and talk a
- 1:44:14Speaker 2: little bit of shot.
- 1:44:15Speaker 3: But how quickly it gets to money?
- 1:44:18Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:44:18Speaker 5: I think I think a lot of the high school
- 1:44:19Speaker 5: kids have been really good, you know what I mean,
- 1:44:21Speaker 5: Like I mean some you know, I guess it's some guys,
- 1:44:23Speaker 5: some people get involved with some most people. I just think,
- 1:44:26Speaker 5: you know, if I tell you I'm not gonna talk
- 1:44:27Speaker 5: money with you, I'm not gonna talk I'm your coach,
- 1:44:29Speaker 5: I'm not gonna talk money with you, you know what I mean.
- 1:44:30Speaker 5: So I just think I have to have that discipline.
- 1:44:34Speaker 5: But I think it's I think probably where you see
- 1:44:35Speaker 5: more of the anil stuff happening is within people's own rosters,
- 1:44:38Speaker 5: and you know, as people come in and say, hey,
- 1:44:40Speaker 5: leave your that roster, and then but also with the transfers,
- 1:44:44Speaker 5: you know, and and I'll be honest with you, like
- 1:44:46Speaker 5: like you know, you guys talked about Garrett Nelson earlier, right, Like,
- 1:44:48Speaker 5: Garret's a guy that you know could have maybe come
- 1:44:50Speaker 5: back or could go off to the NFL. Like you know,
- 1:44:52Speaker 5: maybe NIL can help a guy like that. Hey, if
- 1:44:54Speaker 5: I do come back, I get I get taken care
- 1:44:56Speaker 5: of pretty good because I could be making money in
- 1:44:58Speaker 5: the NFL.
- 1:44:59Speaker 3: I was.
- 1:45:00Speaker 5: I was fired up for Garrett about his decision. You know,
- 1:45:02Speaker 5: I was happy for him. He was first class and
- 1:45:04Speaker 5: did everything the right way. But you know there's times
- 1:45:06Speaker 5: or if you have a draftable grade and you're thinking
- 1:45:08Speaker 5: about coming back, if the NIL people or some people
- 1:45:10Speaker 5: want to take care of you, I think that makes
- 1:45:12Speaker 5: total sense to me. But you know how recruiting is,
- 1:45:15Speaker 5: like one guy's completely different from the next, and just
- 1:45:17Speaker 5: trying to find people who really want to come for
- 1:45:20Speaker 5: you know what it used to.
- 1:45:21Speaker 2: Be, you know what I mean, maybe maybe I phrased
- 1:45:22Speaker 2: that wrong, but have you come across those situations you're like, Okay,
- 1:45:24Speaker 2: it seems like his head's kind of a one where
- 1:45:27Speaker 2: you're going to hit somebody up, Like, hey, he's you
- 1:45:29Speaker 2: hit up? You know, t night you were seeing a
- 1:45:30Speaker 2: d Lineman You're like, hey, he's not a type of guy.
- 1:45:32Speaker 5: Yeah, we we say, oh, you'll see I say, oh,
- 1:45:34Speaker 5: it's like one of us, like like, you know, I
- 1:45:37Speaker 5: don't I tell you guys all, I don't care what
- 1:45:38Speaker 5: I don't think. Brother, I don't care. I don't care
- 1:45:40Speaker 5: how you carry your hair. I don't care you know
- 1:45:42Speaker 5: what music you listen to. I don't care how you dress,
- 1:45:45Speaker 5: care about how you do your football, how you treat people,
- 1:45:47Speaker 5: and full So if I come across some way that's
- 1:45:49Speaker 5: not about that, they're just not going to be a
- 1:45:50Speaker 5: good fit. Like, yeah, I've learned my lesson when I
- 1:45:52Speaker 5: made way too many mistakes early on trying to chase
- 1:45:54Speaker 5: people getting seduced by talent. So if someone's not you know,
- 1:45:58Speaker 5: again and again, I draw the distinction between the transfer
- 1:46:00Speaker 5: guys who's proven what they can do and incoming freshmen.
- 1:46:03Speaker 3: Like an incoming freshman's talking to me about.
- 1:46:05Speaker 5: All this other stuff, like we should be talking about
- 1:46:07Speaker 5: our study hall structure, like like, you know, you got
- 1:46:09Speaker 5: to prove some things before, you know, I want to
- 1:46:11Speaker 5: And again we stay out of that, but I do.
- 1:46:13Speaker 5: I do think that, yes, there's a lot of people
- 1:46:15Speaker 5: that they want to know what's in it for them,
- 1:46:17Speaker 5: and they want to know what it is, and that's
- 1:46:18Speaker 5: only natural. I just think as a coach, you have
- 1:46:20Speaker 5: to say this is how we're gonna do it. I
- 1:46:21Speaker 5: don't talk about this, you know, I talk about the school.
- 1:46:23Speaker 5: Then if if you're interested, then you know, talk to
- 1:46:25Speaker 5: these people over here. Yeah there's opportunities for you.
- 1:46:28Speaker 3: Then great.
- 1:46:28Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:46:29Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be fucking crazy in a couple
- 1:46:31Speaker 2: of years. Yeah, I think the way it's.
- 1:46:32Speaker 3: Gonna be wild.
- 1:46:33Speaker 1: Yeah, But the next couple of years are going to
- 1:46:35Speaker 1: be crazy because it seems like the Big Ten and
- 1:46:37Speaker 1: the SEC especially are like kind of just taking as
- 1:46:40Speaker 1: many colleges as possible, as the thought of the UCLA
- 1:46:43Speaker 1: and USC being in the Big Ten five ten years
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: ago would be just blasphemed as to be ridiculous. How
- 1:46:49Speaker 1: do you think the college landscape is going to change?
- 1:46:50Speaker 1: If you really are going to be at Nebraska for
- 1:46:52Speaker 1: eight years, you're probably gonna see it.
- 1:46:54Speaker 3: Do you see?
- 1:46:54Speaker 1: Do you think there's an opportunity that the Big Ten
- 1:46:58Speaker 1: and the SEC and maybe one other big conference and
- 1:47:00Speaker 1: splits away from the NC DOUBLEA with all this new
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: and ile stuff and il stuff going on and making
- 1:47:06Speaker 1: their own like league.
- 1:47:07Speaker 5: Almost you know, that's a great question. I've heard people
- 1:47:10Speaker 5: say that I don't. I don't know that.
- 1:47:11Speaker 3: I do think.
- 1:47:12Speaker 5: I do think to your point, I think the Big
- 1:47:14Speaker 5: Ten has kind of become like this coast to coast
- 1:47:16Speaker 5: almost like yeah, college's NFL, you know. I mean we've
- 1:47:19Speaker 5: from four will because Yah had a way to use
- 1:47:22Speaker 5: to La like we got everything in between. So it
- 1:47:25Speaker 5: becomes a really national brand, and that's I think that's
- 1:47:28Speaker 5: actually kind of good for us. Like when I look
- 1:47:29Speaker 5: at like when I look at like Texas, I went
- 1:47:32Speaker 5: to Nebraska to be Texas as a Big Ten team.
- 1:47:34Speaker 5: When I look at like west of here all the
- 1:47:36Speaker 5: way till there's all those prospects from Arizona to Utah
- 1:47:39Speaker 5: in between. Zone that doesn't have that doesn't have a
- 1:47:43Speaker 5: that doesn't have a place to go, and if they
- 1:47:45Speaker 5: want to play in the Big tennant, so it's the
- 1:47:46Speaker 5: Big Ten to go to. As we go to sixteen
- 1:47:48Speaker 5: teams and the Big ten's getting three to four teams
- 1:47:50Speaker 5: in every year to the College Football Playoff, Hey come
- 1:47:53Speaker 5: to Nebraska. I think that's one of the things I
- 1:47:54Speaker 5: saw in the SEC is certainly the SEC and then
- 1:47:57Speaker 5: we have.
- 1:47:57Speaker 3: To defeat them. Yeah, we got to beat them.
- 1:47:59Speaker 2: I think something like that that helps Nebraska because I
- 1:48:02Speaker 2: in my opinion, I loved like I got to play
- 1:48:05Speaker 2: two years in the Big twelve, two years in the
- 1:48:06Speaker 2: Big Ten.
- 1:48:07Speaker 3: I loved when we got to go to the Big Ten.
- 1:48:08Speaker 2: But now hindsight, I almost feel like it hurt us
- 1:48:10Speaker 2: to go to the Big Ten because we became We
- 1:48:13Speaker 2: recruited so much California, especially Texas, and I know coaches
- 1:48:17Speaker 2: now think thinking about from the coach's perspective, you're sitting
- 1:48:19Speaker 2: in these living rooms in Texas and being able to
- 1:48:21Speaker 2: at least tell families you'll be able to see these
- 1:48:23Speaker 2: guys play a couple times a ye're at Baylor, at Texas,
- 1:48:26Speaker 2: tech A, and m at the time, you'll be able
- 1:48:28Speaker 2: to see him. And then you know you can still
- 1:48:29Speaker 2: come to Nebraska. Now Nebraska before UCLA and USC's join it.
- 1:48:33Speaker 2: It's kind of like you're gonna fly over Michigan, Ohio.
- 1:48:36Speaker 2: You know, all this, all these states just to play
- 1:48:38Speaker 2: at Nebraska, and you can't necessarily recruit Texas as well,
- 1:48:42Speaker 2: because like, oh, we don't play there at all anymore.
- 1:48:44Speaker 2: So I feel like getting to the West coast like
- 1:48:46Speaker 2: USC in UCLA that helps Nebraska a little bit more,
- 1:48:50Speaker 2: because now if you're recruiting, you know, California and the
- 1:48:53Speaker 2: West coast a little bit more, you'll at least be
- 1:48:54Speaker 2: able to say, hey, we're closer than all these other
- 1:48:56Speaker 2: fucking big time schools, you know on the East.
- 1:48:59Speaker 5: And plus, like when I was at Baylor, I could
- 1:49:01Speaker 5: tell people like, hey, nine out of our nine of
- 1:49:03Speaker 5: our twelve games or ten of our twelve games this
- 1:49:05Speaker 5: year are in the state of Texas. Well, that's gonna change,
- 1:49:07Speaker 5: you know, the Big Twelve is changing now. They're bringing
- 1:49:08Speaker 5: in Cincinnati and some other teams. So now you are
- 1:49:11Speaker 5: leaving the state every year. And now even you know
- 1:49:13Speaker 5: Texas and Texa, A and M. Now as they go
- 1:49:15Speaker 5: to the SEC, they're playing in Alabama, they're playing and George.
- 1:49:17Speaker 5: So all of college football is pretty becoming pretty regional.
- 1:49:21Speaker 5: I'm old school man. I miss like Pitt Penn State,
- 1:49:23Speaker 5: and then I miss you know, Nebraska playing Colorado Nebraska.
- 1:49:26Speaker 5: Ou like, I missed all the old school games, you know,
- 1:49:29Speaker 5: But it's what's happened. It is what it is, right,
- 1:49:31Speaker 5: So I think this this move with USC and UCLA
- 1:49:34Speaker 5: coming in the day, ten, moving up the playoff, expanding
- 1:49:39Speaker 5: to twelve teams. It's the perfect time for Nebraska, a
- 1:49:43Speaker 5: perfect time for us. It's one of the major reasons
- 1:49:45Speaker 5: I was like, I see an opportunity here.
- 1:49:47Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start it with some you know, early little
- 1:49:49Speaker 2: bit of fun. You brought up Nebraska Colorado. That rivalry
- 1:49:52Speaker 2: gets to kind of reignite itself this year. Dionna is
- 1:49:54Speaker 2: now at Colorado. There's a lot of fluff. There wasn't
- 1:49:57Speaker 2: an amusing scene the ad bag for Colorado fans like please, let's.
- 1:50:02Speaker 1: Not they're red travels now yeah, back and seeing him
- 1:50:08Speaker 1: like I tell you what I I.
- 1:50:12Speaker 5: There's a picture, there's a thing in our media guy
- 1:50:13Speaker 5: of all the different pictures of us taking over stadiums
- 1:50:16Speaker 5: and the sea of red and traveling and I just
- 1:50:19Speaker 5: you know, you know, I've worked with some great places,
- 1:50:21Speaker 5: but I've never had that, like I've never had that
- 1:50:23Speaker 5: home field advantage, that road advantage. So I can't wait
- 1:50:26Speaker 5: for it, you know, I can't wait to have that chance.
- 1:50:28Speaker 5: And I think, you know, it's funny. I have so
- 1:50:30Speaker 5: much respect for dion but like our last official visit weekend,
- 1:50:34Speaker 5: they have they have the mad in nextbox whatever on they.
- 1:50:36Speaker 3: Have to and it's like it's it's it's it's it's
- 1:50:39Speaker 3: his prime on there.
- 1:50:40Speaker 5: And I'm like, guys, take off the we're trying to
- 1:50:42Speaker 5: beat Colorado on recruits.
- 1:50:43Speaker 3: They're like, it's Madden. What are we gonna do. He's
- 1:50:45Speaker 3: he's on the cover of Madden.
- 1:50:47Speaker 5: As it scrolls through the thing, I'm like, it's kind
- 1:50:49Speaker 5: of hard to be with one of the greatest football
- 1:50:50Speaker 5: players of all time.
- 1:50:52Speaker 3: So but but you know what, I'm sure players though,
- 1:50:55Speaker 3: might not be best coach of all times.
- 1:50:56Speaker 5: Well, and you know, I'm sure he's done a great job.
- 1:50:58Speaker 5: I just now I will see that. I but I
- 1:51:03Speaker 5: believe in our staff. I believe what we're doing, and
- 1:51:05Speaker 5: we're gonna, you know, we're gonna put it together and
- 1:51:07Speaker 5: go out there and play. It'd be a great game.
- 1:51:08Speaker 5: I think it'll be a great thing for I think
- 1:51:09Speaker 5: it's a great thing for college football though, like Nebraska Colorado.
- 1:51:12Speaker 5: Like when I was going through this process, showing my
- 1:51:14Speaker 5: wife and my son, like you know, the eighties and
- 1:51:17Speaker 5: nineties and those rivalries and coach McCartney and coach of
- 1:51:21Speaker 5: Osborne and just those are some great games, man, and
- 1:51:23Speaker 5: so like to have this game. And I think the
- 1:51:25Speaker 5: last two times we played them like rolling two against them,
- 1:51:27Speaker 5: you know, in the last two games against Colorado. So
- 1:51:30Speaker 5: you know, to start off at Minnesota and then come
- 1:51:32Speaker 5: back and go with to Colorado.
- 1:51:33Speaker 3: That's that's gonna be fun. That's gonna be just a little
- 1:51:36Speaker 3: warm up with Minnesota the Gophers.
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: Dude.
- 1:51:37Speaker 3: Yeah, it was funny though about that ad begging, right,
- 1:51:40Speaker 3: it was.
- 1:51:40Speaker 8: It was funny trying to get me in trial, bro,
- 1:51:44Speaker 8: trying to.
- 1:51:47Speaker 1: You don't have to.
- 1:51:49Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll ask you your question.
- 1:51:51Speaker 1: Do you fully expect Nebraska to go into Colorado and
- 1:51:53Speaker 1: totally have a sea of red and boulder.
- 1:51:56Speaker 3: I expect our fans to show up. Let's go. Yeah,
- 1:52:00Speaker 3: it would be there. I'll be there and let's go.
- 1:52:02Speaker 3: I expect our fans to show up.
- 1:52:04Speaker 5: I as I've gotten out to the western part of
- 1:52:06Speaker 5: the state and seeing all the like the die hard,
- 1:52:09Speaker 5: die hard, Like I'm in I'm in Scott's Bluff and
- 1:52:12Speaker 5: we're a little group pub downtown and there's people figured
- 1:52:15Speaker 5: out that we were there, me and the OC, and
- 1:52:17Speaker 5: all of a sudden, there's just people there like shaking
- 1:52:19Speaker 5: our hand.
- 1:52:20Speaker 3: Like those people, those people out there, they're excited about
- 1:52:23Speaker 3: Nebraska football.
- 1:52:24Speaker 5: So I think it's I'm hoping that people come from everywhere,
- 1:52:26Speaker 5: and then I'll be honest with you, I can't wait
- 1:52:28Speaker 5: for our first home game, you know, uh, the Northern Illinois,
- 1:52:30Speaker 5: Like I like, I just can't wait to walk I
- 1:52:32Speaker 5: walk by that field in the mornings.
- 1:52:34Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:52:34Speaker 8: I get into work whatever time and walk out there.
- 1:52:37Speaker 5: Man, it's like I'm gonna coach here like and it's
- 1:52:39Speaker 5: kind of like humbling like and also like, hey, you
- 1:52:40Speaker 5: better get your aub I mean, like make sure we're
- 1:52:43Speaker 5: ready to go, because I want those people to see
- 1:52:45Speaker 5: a team that they that they really like.
- 1:52:46Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 1:52:47Speaker 3: You talked about good football players in Arizona. There's some
- 1:52:50Speaker 3: studs out there right now. There's some really good players,
- 1:52:53Speaker 3: you know.
- 1:52:54Speaker 1: Would you say Arizona is probably a top five state
- 1:52:56Speaker 1: in recruiting.
- 1:52:57Speaker 8: I say it's it's pretty important.
- 1:52:59Speaker 2: Pretty there's a lot about where the best players come from.
- 1:53:04Speaker 8: It's pretty important for us right now.
- 1:53:05Speaker 3: Yeah, Arizona's pretty important for Nebraska.
- 1:53:07Speaker 5: Arizona's a really good place for us. You know a
- 1:53:09Speaker 5: lot of people from Nebraska have second homes there or
- 1:53:11Speaker 5: vacation that when Will came into town, there's damn parade going.
- 1:53:15Speaker 8: So it's it's it's a it's a it's an easy trip.
- 1:53:17Speaker 3: And so it's, uh, it's got some good quarterbacks in Arizona.
- 1:53:20Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, big Kyler, Murray Finn Yeah player. Yeah,
- 1:53:24Speaker 5: and you know at all levels, you know, college.
- 1:53:26Speaker 2: High school, absolutely, all levels.
- 1:53:29Speaker 3: Yeah, at all levels.
- 1:53:30Speaker 2: Hypothetically, I think we got to go all in on
- 1:53:32Speaker 2: whoever the number one recruit is, like the best.
- 1:53:35Speaker 5: I think, I think I think Nebraska should. I think
- 1:53:37Speaker 5: Nebraska should recruit the best of the best. And also,
- 1:53:41Speaker 5: let guys know that what an unbeieble opportunity to come be,
- 1:53:43Speaker 5: you know, like I want to be one of the
- 1:53:45Speaker 5: people that you know, brings us to glory. And so
- 1:53:47Speaker 5: the players that choose to come here in this class
- 1:53:49Speaker 5: and maybe like next year's class, they're the ones who
- 1:53:52Speaker 5: who I think people remember for a long time. Like, Hey,
- 1:53:55Speaker 5: the state wants us, you want us, everyone that loves
- 1:53:57Speaker 5: Nebraska wants us to be great again. So let's let's
- 1:54:01Speaker 5: let's let's get the right players and coaches here and
- 1:54:03Speaker 5: people will remember those guys.
- 1:54:04Speaker 1: Yeah the Nebraska good answer, Hey, you are playing an
- 1:54:07Speaker 1: excellent game of chests.
- 1:54:08Speaker 3: Right, We'll say this one thing.
- 1:54:09Speaker 5: Yeah, because Jalen Petree just I think it's just at
- 1:54:11Speaker 5: the NFL record for Jen for Uh play second round
- 1:54:15Speaker 5: draftter for the Texans, played for me at Bayol, then
- 1:54:16Speaker 5: played for coach Randa Uh. He was the only player
- 1:54:19Speaker 5: that stayed committed in the recruiting class after the scandal
- 1:54:22Speaker 5: had happened at Baylor and I got there, I didn't
- 1:54:23Speaker 5: even know him, and I introduced myself to him. I
- 1:54:25Speaker 5: remember the two tour guys are walking with him, and
- 1:54:28Speaker 5: the one tour guy started crying and she was like,
- 1:54:30Speaker 5: I just want you to know, like I know, you're
- 1:54:33Speaker 5: the only person that when everyone else left the program,
- 1:54:35Speaker 5: you're the only kid who stayed. And so he well,
- 1:54:38Speaker 5: someday probably have a statue built for him at Baylor
- 1:54:41Speaker 5: because he's the guy who bridged the gap. He's the
- 1:54:43Speaker 5: He's the one, like I got some credit that I
- 1:54:45Speaker 5: don't know.
- 1:54:46Speaker 3: He's the one.
- 1:54:46Speaker 5: And now he said an NFL record this year as
- 1:54:49Speaker 5: a rookie. He's a special, special person. So that sense
- 1:54:51Speaker 5: of legacy, it's you go to a place like Nebraska
- 1:54:54Speaker 5: and you walk by the All Americans, you walk by
- 1:54:56Speaker 5: the Heisman.
- 1:54:56Speaker 3: I mean it's pretty hard.
- 1:54:57Speaker 5: Like I used to walk through the halls of Penn State,
- 1:54:59Speaker 5: Like we I'll never be the first to do anything here.
- 1:55:00Speaker 5: We've done it all. But when your your program hits
- 1:55:03Speaker 5: a little bit of adverse here, the people who show
- 1:55:05Speaker 5: up now, kind of like Jalen did at Baylor, they'll
- 1:55:07Speaker 5: they'll remember you for a long.
- 1:55:09Speaker 2: Long time, right, like a quarterback who could be sitting
- 1:55:11Speaker 2: out there somewhere in any state on the west.
- 1:55:13Speaker 1: Yeah, Soona, there's none as a top five recruiting school.
- 1:55:15Speaker 2: Or with the recruiting state, you'd be part of some
- 1:55:17Speaker 2: legacy type shit. Legacy stuff. Do you understand? I think
- 1:55:20Speaker 2: you're like you're obviously going to say yes, But do
- 1:55:22Speaker 2: you truly understand how rabid these fans are in Nebraska?
- 1:55:28Speaker 2: Not go back and watch some old pressers from bo Pliny,
- 1:55:31Speaker 2: just some old school ship like you gotta you gotta
- 1:55:35Speaker 2: buckle in around linked Nebraska, keep.
- 1:55:37Speaker 3: Your hands in the card at all times during the
- 1:55:38Speaker 3: ride type stuff.
- 1:55:39Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think I do believe this.
- 1:55:42Speaker 5: I believe, like I said, after everything I've gone through,
- 1:55:44Speaker 5: the good and the bad, I think that's got me
- 1:55:46Speaker 5: this point where I'm like as stoic and as zen
- 1:55:49Speaker 5: as possible, Like I was on the plane the other
- 1:55:51Speaker 5: day flying you know, I flew back from Charlotte from
- 1:55:54Speaker 5: the Coaches convention and commercial commercial yeah, and I was
- 1:55:58Speaker 5: was fortunate that was able to sit up for They
- 1:56:03Speaker 5: started chanting go Big Red as we were landing in Omaha,
- 1:56:05Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, this is real. Okay, So
- 1:56:08Speaker 5: but you know what, I would much rather have passion
- 1:56:11Speaker 5: than apathy and knowing that on both sides of it
- 1:56:14Speaker 5: there can always be you know, sometimes it can be.
- 1:56:15Speaker 5: But I've met a lot of really great people, and
- 1:56:17Speaker 5: I think I think people in Nebraska right now are
- 1:56:19Speaker 5: so starved to like just like, let's just go see
- 1:56:24Speaker 5: what a go back to a Bowl game, Like, let's
- 1:56:26Speaker 5: just do that. Like so I can feel people are
- 1:56:28Speaker 5: getting excited about here, we're gonna do this with it.
- 1:56:30Speaker 3: I'm trying to stay in the moment, like did everyone
- 1:56:32Speaker 3: go to community service today?
- 1:56:33Speaker 2: You know?
- 1:56:34Speaker 5: Did everyone go to practically everyone showed up lifting this morning.
- 1:56:36Speaker 5: That's great, stay in that that kind of that space.
- 1:56:39Speaker 5: But I'm excited about what maybe we can do.
- 1:56:41Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:56:42Speaker 3: It's like.
- 1:56:44Speaker 2: It's almost like that's what Nebraska just wants to do again.
- 1:56:46Speaker 2: You thought everybody thought we had it with Scott with
- 1:56:49Speaker 2: like him playing in the nineties him being a successful coordinator,
- 1:56:53Speaker 2: head coach coming to Nebraska. We got our fucking guy,
- 1:56:57Speaker 2: and for it to not happen, it's kind of like, fuck, man, Like,
- 1:57:01Speaker 2: what is even the expectation anymore?
- 1:57:04Speaker 3: You know what I mean? No, I thought you were
- 1:57:05Speaker 3: going to cry for a second. You almost do.
- 1:57:07Speaker 2: It's like you come into this job and it's like
- 1:57:10Speaker 2: somebody takes on this responsiblity because a lot of people
- 1:57:12Speaker 2: argue that it's a fucking hard job to want to
- 1:57:14Speaker 2: go into because the expectation is so high, and you
- 1:57:17Speaker 2: already alluded to it the little apathy quote you had
- 1:57:20Speaker 2: Passion over apathy. It's like the expectation is so high
- 1:57:23Speaker 2: and recruiting can be a little dicey because you're trying
- 1:57:26Speaker 2: to get these kids to Middle America again when you
- 1:57:29Speaker 2: can play anywhere.
- 1:57:30Speaker 3: It's it's like I'm excited. I'm excited. And you texted
- 1:57:34Speaker 3: your boy like on day one, like coach rule text
- 1:57:37Speaker 3: on all like Will texted me at the minute he
- 1:57:39Speaker 3: texted you texted him brother.
- 1:57:42Speaker 2: It's like the president gets he becomes the president of
- 1:57:44Speaker 2: the first one hundred days, it's like on your list.
- 1:57:46Speaker 3: Get in with the boy. You know what I mean,
- 1:57:49Speaker 3: was that on the list.
- 1:57:50Speaker 5: On the list, probably number one on the list, calling
- 1:57:54Speaker 5: my wife and making sure she was but it was
- 1:57:57Speaker 5: in the top five.
- 1:57:58Speaker 3: Oh shit.
- 1:57:59Speaker 5: But no, In all seriousness, like, as we went through
- 1:58:02Speaker 5: this process, we had so much time.
- 1:58:04Speaker 3: Like I watched all these things.
- 1:58:05Speaker 5: I watched all the tunnel walks, I watched Coach Pollini,
- 1:58:07Speaker 5: I watched Coach Osborne, I watched Coach So I watched
- 1:58:10Speaker 5: all these different things.
- 1:58:10Speaker 3: But I watched you guys.
- 1:58:12Speaker 5: I watched, I went I went back and watched when
- 1:58:14Speaker 5: you guys had Coach Pollini on here, Like I watched,
- 1:58:16Speaker 5: I had a chance to really immerse myself and say, okay,
- 1:58:20Speaker 5: Matt is you know because I'm when I go in,
- 1:58:22Speaker 5: I go in, I go all in, like all in.
- 1:58:24Speaker 8: I was like, are you ready to go all in
- 1:58:25Speaker 8: on this? And but you guys were part of that
- 1:58:28Speaker 8: process from me.
- 1:58:28Speaker 5: That's why being here, honestly, it's unbelievably cool because I
- 1:58:32Speaker 5: get to talk about Nebraska. I got to do it
- 1:58:34Speaker 5: in a way that's fun, and I get to talk
- 1:58:37Speaker 5: about football, and I get to kind of laugh at
- 1:58:38Speaker 5: myself a little bit, you know what I'm saying. And
- 1:58:40Speaker 5: I got to see that from you guys, And that's
- 1:58:41Speaker 5: important to me. You know what I'm saying. You can
- 1:58:43Speaker 5: you can lose yourself when you when you have when
- 1:58:45Speaker 5: you're a coach, you can lose yourself and think you're
- 1:58:47Speaker 5: too important, you know what, Like let's let's just let's
- 1:58:49Speaker 5: just be ourselves.
- 1:58:50Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like from a first impression standpoint, like
- 1:58:53Speaker 1: I have never met you. Today's the first day with
- 1:58:55Speaker 1: you and I have talked. I liked you, and I
- 1:58:57Speaker 1: feel like if I'm a recruit, I'm watching this like
- 1:58:59Speaker 1: I like that guy too, Like you got high energy,
- 1:59:02Speaker 1: You're passionate, You're ready.
- 1:59:03Speaker 3: To get after it.
- 1:59:04Speaker 1: You know what, the kind of football you want to play.
- 1:59:06Speaker 1: You talk about your lows. Yeah, yeah, and that's a
- 1:59:09Speaker 1: huge thing too. It's because people like to run away
- 1:59:11Speaker 1: from their mishaps. There's things that happened that didn't go
- 1:59:14Speaker 1: their way. You're you're facing a head on. Yeah, you're
- 1:59:16Speaker 1: the spear, butd you're this spear for the breast of corners.
- 1:59:19Speaker 2: Everything you said about watching busting is like you're like,
- 1:59:22Speaker 2: you know, did I get caught up or wrapped up?
- 1:59:24Speaker 2: And seeing people laugh at themselves. I think it's super
- 1:59:27Speaker 2: important man, because you can't get lost, no doubt in
- 1:59:30Speaker 2: the identity of like I'm here, man, everybody's fucking coming
- 1:59:33Speaker 2: after me to come down. Like you know, you said,
- 1:59:35Speaker 2: what do I do? You know, take my kids to
- 1:59:37Speaker 2: school or go home? And Pat, I'm sure you did both.
- 1:59:39Speaker 2: You probably took them to school, fucking that's.
- 1:59:40Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Pat it on the way home almost busting
- 1:59:44Speaker 1: with the boys. Maybe, no doubt, Yeah, dude, because we
- 1:59:47Speaker 1: talk about all the time that there's people that either
- 1:59:48Speaker 1: are on pedestals or put themselves on pedestals and just
- 1:59:51Speaker 1: refuse to take a giggle at themselves, know when they
- 1:59:54Speaker 1: fucked up.
- 1:59:54Speaker 3: And it's like, dude, if.
- 1:59:55Speaker 1: You just do that, life, the anxiety of life dwindles
- 1:59:59Speaker 1: and you feel so much better. Now. I do have
- 2:00:01Speaker 1: a very important this might be the most important question.
- 2:00:03Speaker 1: This might be not the rodback, but this is definitely
- 2:00:06Speaker 1: a massively important question. And the way you answer it's
- 2:00:09Speaker 1: going to change the directory of our friendship. I don't
- 2:00:10Speaker 1: know how you and Will are going to be the
- 2:00:13Speaker 1: fourth game this season you will playing. You will be
- 2:00:15Speaker 1: playing the Michigan Wolverines in Lincoln, Nebraska. Now, there are
- 2:00:20Speaker 1: talks that last year Michigan won the first inaugural bus
- 2:00:25Speaker 1: and Bowl official or unofficial. That's the argument that people
- 2:00:28Speaker 1: are putting at it, putting up with it. Are you
- 2:00:31Speaker 1: willing to sign papers saying that Michigan or Nebraska will
- 2:00:38Speaker 1: be playing for the first official Busting Bowl against Michigan
- 2:00:42Speaker 1: next year?
- 2:00:46Speaker 3: Yeah? Also, here's what I do you know a lawyer
- 2:00:49Speaker 3: right right now? Stream of the bust and Bowl, I'm
- 2:00:51Speaker 3: not so.
- 2:00:53Speaker 2: We we did the spring tour last year where we
- 2:00:55Speaker 2: went to UH, we went to Nebraska, we went to Michigan,
- 2:00:58Speaker 2: we went to Tennessee. We didn't interviews, sat out with
- 2:01:00Speaker 2: Scott coach Chintz, Uh, Trev Alberts, he's been on the bus.
- 2:01:05Speaker 2: We went to that Michigan game the last year and UH.
- 2:01:09Speaker 2: We were sitting down on the spring tour and Taylor's like, hey,
- 2:01:12Speaker 2: I got an idea and talked about like, hey, I'm
- 2:01:14Speaker 2: going to ask if we can do the bust and Bowl,
- 2:01:16Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna Askcott Frost if he'll say yes. He
- 2:01:18Speaker 2: got fired up, said yes. We went to Michigan. Scott
- 2:01:21Speaker 2: was like, look, if R. A. D's on board and
- 2:01:24Speaker 2: Michigan's on board, I'm all for it. Like, let's sign it.
- 2:01:27Speaker 2: We go to Michigan.
- 2:01:28Speaker 3: Hold on, do we have the clip? Do you have
- 2:01:31Speaker 3: do you have the clip of Harpball? He's grabbing the Uh.
- 2:01:34Speaker 1: He he's grabbing the contract right now, So go ahead.
- 2:01:36Speaker 1: Will this is your this is your story.
- 2:01:38Speaker 2: We go to Michigan and we asked Carball and Harpball's
- 2:01:42Speaker 2: all about it. We have our legal team drop a
- 2:01:44Speaker 2: document to to make this thing official. Jim Harball is
- 2:01:49Speaker 2: the only guy who has signed it.
- 2:01:50Speaker 3: He was all in.
- 2:01:50Speaker 2: He was hitting his chest like he was getting into
- 2:01:52Speaker 2: you felt it. He's all about competing, just like yourself.
- 2:01:54Speaker 2: We'd love to see a ping pong game there. But
- 2:01:57Speaker 2: he signed it along the way, it got lost a
- 2:02:00Speaker 2: little bit of translation. I'm I like to feel like
- 2:02:04Speaker 2: I'm connected at Nebraska and I was told that we
- 2:02:06Speaker 2: would get this thing signed. Training camp kind of got
- 2:02:09Speaker 2: away from all of us for a little bit. You know,
- 2:02:11Speaker 2: you got your ten up in the air.
- 2:02:12Speaker 3: Where we going here? Where we're going there?
- 2:02:14Speaker 1: Camp?
- 2:02:14Speaker 3: And unfortunately Nebraska had the year that they had.
- 2:02:17Speaker 2: I tried making it happen, knowing that it's like this
- 2:02:20Speaker 2: probably isn't gonna get signed because there's so many more
- 2:02:23Speaker 2: important things going on than signing a document. To make
- 2:02:26Speaker 2: the bust and Bowl official when Nebraska's like losing game in,
- 2:02:28Speaker 2: game out, and so our side didn't necessarily sign it.
- 2:02:33Speaker 1: So Taylor and car Ball signed it before we even
- 2:02:36Speaker 1: finished the question. Yeah, that's right, signed it before we
- 2:02:40Speaker 1: even finished the question.
- 2:02:41Speaker 2: And so Taylor and I still took it upon ourselves,
- 2:02:43Speaker 2: like we're gonna still make this thing unofficially official, but
- 2:02:46Speaker 2: we're going to go to Michigan.
- 2:02:48Speaker 3: Bring the trophy mass it's forty pounds. It's sitting in
- 2:02:51Speaker 3: it's sitting in the Michigan locker room in their trophy.
- 2:02:53Speaker 1: Right next to Paul Bunyan. Pull it up right now,
- 2:02:58Speaker 1: well you can, you can?
- 2:03:00Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say? No, I
- 2:03:02Speaker 2: want him to see that it's this is a this
- 2:03:04Speaker 2: is a living breath November. Yeah, dude, can't sponsor the trophy.
- 2:03:10Speaker 2: We have a full on trophy made with little you
- 2:03:12Speaker 2: know them little things. We can write the name in
- 2:03:14Speaker 2: etch the name and everything else. It's a legit trophy.
- 2:03:17Speaker 2: And so we're excited about next year. As you can tell,
- 2:03:20Speaker 2: I need the what you what you usually need. You
- 2:03:22Speaker 2: need the head coach on board, you need their signature,
- 2:03:24Speaker 2: you need the A D signature. I know Trev would
- 2:03:27Speaker 2: be on board this. He's got to play his game,
- 2:03:29Speaker 2: and he said the right thing. He's like, well, I
- 2:03:31Speaker 2: know you respect. We got a lot of things going
- 2:03:33Speaker 2: on right now, and I was like, hand up, fully understand.
- 2:03:36Speaker 2: Had to ask because the game's coming up.
- 2:03:38Speaker 3: Yeap. So that's why we asked the question, are you
- 2:03:41Speaker 3: willing to make this thing official?
- 2:03:45Speaker 2: Brass trophy? Love it that's sitting in like recruit see it.
- 2:03:51Speaker 2: And when they went to the game, because I know
- 2:03:53Speaker 2: all of Nebraska's gonna watch this. When we went to
- 2:03:56Speaker 2: the game, even in the recruiting area they had with
- 2:04:00Speaker 2: the lights you know the lights that you guys put
- 2:04:01Speaker 2: in the Hawks to decorate all the ball, big bull
- 2:04:04Speaker 2: bull lights sing busting bull. The day came playing the game,
- 2:04:10Speaker 2: I know Nebraska could do well, Nebreska. I'm just letting
- 2:04:12Speaker 2: you know that's what's happening behind enemy factual. What do
- 2:04:16Speaker 2: you know, our legal team made up a contract right
- 2:04:19Speaker 2: here perfect. So all you're gonna do is I write
- 2:04:22Speaker 2: your name and then you can read through it if
- 2:04:24Speaker 2: you like. There's a lot of language here, but I
- 2:04:26Speaker 2: would if you want.
- 2:04:28Speaker 3: To h this is this is history. This is history brother.
- 2:04:41Speaker 3: Oh wow, well is that.
- 2:04:42Speaker 1: A real signature.
- 2:04:43Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of loops.
- 2:04:44Speaker 1: I was just making sure that's a lot of loops,
- 2:04:47Speaker 1: all right, now, Yes, So when we were at.
- 2:04:51Speaker 3: The game, there another signature ship. You're right. See, I
- 2:04:56Speaker 3: think he's gonna dip on the boys. I don't think
- 2:04:58Speaker 3: it's important to him like it is coach rule. But
- 2:05:00Speaker 3: I think, no, he's not dipping on the boys.
- 2:05:01Speaker 1: He said a statement he's he fully plans to be
- 2:05:03Speaker 1: a part of the Michigan Wolverines twenty twenty three.
- 2:05:05Speaker 3: State would have doctored statement right there by his agent.
- 2:05:09Speaker 1: They wrote it, didn't they Now twenty million dollars a year,
- 2:05:12Speaker 1: he allegedly got offered by the Denver Broncos.
- 2:05:15Speaker 3: There's a lot of mutual interest.
- 2:05:16Speaker 1: Money does talk, And I wouldn't be mad at him,
- 2:05:18Speaker 1: but i'd be real I would I would cry because
- 2:05:21Speaker 1: it's over.
- 2:05:21Speaker 3: I wouldn't smile because it happened, which I know you're
- 2:05:24Speaker 3: not supposed to do.
- 2:05:24Speaker 2: Now, this.
- 2:05:28Speaker 3: That was huge what you did there, That was that
- 2:05:30Speaker 3: was Yeah. I might need a moment of silence real quick. Hey,
- 2:05:34Speaker 3: can we get a moment of silence for the buzzleball
- 2:05:36Speaker 3: Coachurill sending it. Thank you. That was big. They went
- 2:05:45Speaker 3: hand to the heart. I didn't know what to do.
- 2:05:49Speaker 3: I was like, oh, man, hey the iconic. That was iconic. Man,
- 2:05:55Speaker 3: this this has been one of my favorite episodes. Thank
- 2:05:59Speaker 3: you having you on it all the time. Oh good time, dude.
- 2:06:03Speaker 1: We have a great time on this bus. But sometimes
- 2:06:04Speaker 1: guys come on, you're like kind of fishing trying to
- 2:06:06Speaker 1: find things to talk about. But really you've been great.
- 2:06:10Speaker 1: If you've spoken well, I think you've done yourself a service.
- 2:06:13Speaker 1: These recruits that are probably watching this episode get to.
- 2:06:17Speaker 3: Know Matt rule.
- 2:06:17Speaker 1: Here you go. You have an hour and twenty one
- 2:06:19Speaker 1: minutes plus happening. By this Baby's not over yet.
- 2:06:22Speaker 2: All of Nebraska will be tuned in. I'm sure you're
- 2:06:24Speaker 2: probably aware.
- 2:06:25Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they do go hard man.
- 2:06:27Speaker 5: All right.
- 2:06:27Speaker 1: The coolest thing about Nebraska is I went there. I
- 2:06:30Speaker 1: played there in twenty thirteen because you were you were
- 2:06:32Speaker 1: lest years twenty twelve. I went there and no, that's
- 2:06:35Speaker 1: the year we got our aspey. It was twenty twelve.
- 2:06:37Speaker 3: Wee me, yeah, yeah, we got our asspyt.
- 2:06:40Speaker 1: The stadium was rocking, extremely loud lights, The boys were
- 2:06:44Speaker 1: playing well, Donar got hurt.
- 2:06:45Speaker 3: That's why we lost.
- 2:06:46Speaker 1: We probably could have won that game, but we ended
- 2:06:48Speaker 1: up not winning that game, ended up just getting absolutely
- 2:06:50Speaker 1: pile dry for sixty minutes after the game. There's fans
- 2:06:53Speaker 1: that are kind of lined up as you're walking out,
- 2:06:55Speaker 1: and they are the nicest.
- 2:06:56Speaker 3: Hey, great job. Hey, you'll get them next time. You guys.
- 2:06:59Speaker 1: Keep it up, have a great rest of the season.
- 2:07:01Speaker 1: A feeling you don't really get when you play football
- 2:07:03Speaker 1: against opposing fan bases.
- 2:07:05Speaker 3: It was it is very cool place.
- 2:07:07Speaker 5: The greatest feeling in the world as a coach. You know,
- 2:07:09Speaker 5: the greatest thing you can ever say to someone as
- 2:07:11Speaker 5: a coach. You welcome f you've won. You walk up
- 2:07:13Speaker 5: and say, hey, your boys played hard today.
- 2:07:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:07:18Speaker 5: Joey Maguire, the coach Text to Tech taught me that
- 2:07:20Speaker 5: I just whenever I can, you know, just you boys
- 2:07:23Speaker 5: played hard today. Boys played harder, Boys played hard today.
- 2:07:26Speaker 1: Do we want to do a tier talk? Because I
- 2:07:29Speaker 1: have one in my head that we could do. I
- 2:07:31Speaker 1: know we talked about maybe possibly doing emojis, but just
- 2:07:34Speaker 1: to keep the Nebraska theme, we could do our tier,
- 2:07:39Speaker 1: our top tier, top three selling points at the University
- 2:07:42Speaker 1: of Nebraska.
- 2:07:44Speaker 2: MM see sometimes I don't like when it's just centric
- 2:07:47Speaker 2: on one thing because they say you do emoji, it's
- 2:07:50Speaker 2: the head coach or universal. We can have him list
- 2:07:54Speaker 2: his top three things selling points at Nebraska and we
- 2:07:56Speaker 2: can all rate it by one word. It's almost like
- 2:07:58Speaker 2: it's almost like, yeah, it's and it would probably be
- 2:08:02Speaker 2: basic because it's going to be education.
- 2:08:05Speaker 3: But what he's already said, it's gonna be Nebraska U
- 2:08:08Speaker 3: Educational University.
- 2:08:10Speaker 5: We have the most academic all Americans of any athletic
- 2:08:13Speaker 5: department in the country, over one hundred more than Stanford.
- 2:08:16Speaker 1: Well that might just be in Nebraska just giving out
- 2:08:18Speaker 1: good grades. I'm just saying it could be I'm over here,
- 2:08:23Speaker 1: I'm now, I'm now on outside. I've walked outside the box.
- 2:08:27Speaker 1: If Michigan wantitude, that they would because they're a top
- 2:08:29Speaker 1: fifteen public school in the entire world. We'll get just
- 2:08:31Speaker 1: start dishing out as to the boys. Now, the whole
- 2:08:33Speaker 1: team's academical Americans.
- 2:08:34Speaker 5: It's all sports at just across the old department, one
- 2:08:37Speaker 5: hundred more than Stanford.
- 2:08:38Speaker 3: You're doing something, you're doing something, you're doing something, You're
- 2:08:41Speaker 3: going to do something right. Tell them what stands for
- 2:08:44Speaker 3: Nebraska I can't do it. Knowledge, I can't do it.
- 2:08:47Speaker 3: I knew, I knew the joke, but I couldn't do it.
- 2:08:49Speaker 3: I couldn't do it. That I got the joke, I
- 2:08:55Speaker 3: feel like any other like, oh that's nice, that's nice.
- 2:08:56Speaker 3: I can't do it, he said, I can't do it, dude,
- 2:08:59Speaker 3: all right, we'll do emoji. So well, do you want
- 2:09:02Speaker 3: to explain our tear talk?
- 2:09:03Speaker 2: So tiar talk is essentially are you familiar with t
- 2:09:05Speaker 2: your talks if you've caught up on some episodes, So
- 2:09:08Speaker 2: tier talk is essentially tier one, Tier two, tier three.
- 2:09:11Speaker 2: You can throw it an honorable mention if you'd like to,
- 2:09:13Speaker 2: but essentially your top three emojis. Our tier talk today
- 2:09:17Speaker 2: for this episode is going to be emojis, since you
- 2:09:20Speaker 2: are basically the emoji king. I'm trying, do we need
- 2:09:24Speaker 2: to take a second. I kind of need to see exactly.
- 2:09:26Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out which avenue I want to
- 2:09:28Speaker 2: go down.
- 2:09:29Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
- 2:09:30Speaker 3: There's some fun stuff out there. There's some fun stuff
- 2:09:32Speaker 3: out there. Might try to be unprofessional in front of
- 2:09:33Speaker 3: coach rule.
- 2:09:34Speaker 1: Yourself, stay horny, my boy, exactly, all right.
- 2:09:46Speaker 3: I think mine's gonna be my honorable mention, tipping the
- 2:09:51Speaker 3: cap to the moon, the moon emoji, the dark moon emoji.
- 2:09:55Speaker 2: In fact, when you throw that, if you add that
- 2:09:57Speaker 2: to your bag and you saw that in there, it
- 2:09:59Speaker 2: throws people off, like what does even mean by that?
- 2:10:00Speaker 2: But it's funny looking. You just randomly throw it in
- 2:10:04Speaker 2: a conversation. I'm telling you it's good. Added to your back.
- 2:10:06Speaker 3: Boys. My Tier three, there's gonna be the waters. Yeah,
- 2:10:13Speaker 3: we gotta stay hydrated out there. You gotta stay hydrated
- 2:10:15Speaker 3: out there. Keep that H two O up. My tier two, big.
- 2:10:22Speaker 2: Big vegetable guy, the egg plant, like the egg plant.
- 2:10:27Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the egg plant for my two.
- 2:10:29Speaker 3: My tier one.
- 2:10:30Speaker 2: This is this, this emoji's been with me all time
- 2:10:33Speaker 2: since since Earth. The eyes you shoot the eyes. The
- 2:10:39Speaker 2: eyes are killer. Yeah, keep in the draft draft but
- 2:10:44Speaker 2: eyes Tier one, egg plant, big vegetable guy. Tier two
- 2:10:48Speaker 2: could be corn, you know, could be corn. Could be corn,
- 2:10:51Speaker 2: big big cob energy. That's a big thing we're all
- 2:10:54Speaker 2: about on Saturday's Memorial Stadium.
- 2:10:57Speaker 4: Uh.
- 2:10:57Speaker 3: But my tier in my Tier three water and typically cap.
- 2:11:00Speaker 2: Salute to the moon. I love, I love the little
- 2:11:03Speaker 2: moon emoji. Like that's my that's my tier that's my
- 2:11:06Speaker 2: tiar talk. Now, what we do is everybody goes around
- 2:11:09Speaker 2: and gives a one word response to your tiar talk.
- 2:11:12Speaker 3: So we'll go around. You can go last, respectable, true.
- 2:11:21Speaker 8: Hard, hornie, and I can't tell my mom to watch
- 2:11:27Speaker 8: this now.
- 2:11:28Speaker 3: No devious, Oh you know, I'm sorry. You know you're
- 2:11:35Speaker 3: my boy. I have to be honest. Yeah, well too,
- 2:11:42Speaker 3: I say two words, you just say hyphenated if you
- 2:11:45Speaker 3: say too.
- 2:11:46Speaker 8: Dephonated, too clever, well, too clever.
- 2:11:49Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a clever boy. Clever boy, clever boy.
- 2:11:52Speaker 1: That egg plan got real clever back in the day. Respectable, Yeah,
- 2:11:59Speaker 1: I really, I really with that right now, my honorable mention. Uh,
- 2:12:07Speaker 1: it's not used a lot, but when it is, it
- 2:12:10Speaker 1: just means so much. That is the goat emoji. When
- 2:12:13Speaker 1: you put out the goat emoji, you know we all
- 2:12:15Speaker 1: know what that means. And that just like Will said,
- 2:12:18Speaker 1: a tip of the cap to whatever individually you might
- 2:12:20Speaker 1: be referring to at that time.
- 2:12:22Speaker 3: My Tier three got to eat your vegetables. It's very important.
- 2:12:28Speaker 1: This thing, since the dawning of its time, has really
- 2:12:33Speaker 1: helped me send that Morse code out letting everybody know
- 2:12:37Speaker 1: where I'm at. I need them vegetables, and that goes
- 2:12:41Speaker 1: to the egg plant. My Tier two is a new
- 2:12:44Speaker 1: one that's been introduced to me, I would say in
- 2:12:46Speaker 1: the last six months. But I love it with a passion.
- 2:12:49Speaker 3: That is the salute. I think this salute is.
- 2:12:54Speaker 1: Move especially because it's half faced thing. It's funny and
- 2:12:59Speaker 1: it packs upon dude. I probably overuse it. And then
- 2:13:02Speaker 1: my tier one has to go to them eyes. You're
- 2:13:07Speaker 1: trying to get so hey, especially you're in your group chat.
- 2:13:09Speaker 3: I do it, will and I do it a lot.
- 2:13:11Speaker 1: One of us will send a text, maybe we don't
- 2:13:12Speaker 1: get a response for that person for a little bit.
- 2:13:15Speaker 1: Other individual puts out the eyes like, hey, we're kind
- 2:13:17Speaker 1: of waiting on you, bub We're kind of just waiting
- 2:13:19Speaker 1: on you right now.
- 2:13:20Speaker 3: You're going to respond to this or no, it's light hearted.
- 2:13:22Speaker 9: It's lighthearted and that are That is my sir talking, strong, relatable,
- 2:13:39Speaker 9: Jesus plaus approved.
- 2:13:45Speaker 1: Con I was hoping you can say horny again, solid,
- 2:13:50Speaker 1: thank you diabolical?
- 2:13:57Speaker 3: All right, oh man, all right. So the first coach's
- 2:14:04Speaker 3: is it partook? Are taken? Are taken? And not like partook?
- 2:14:08Speaker 3: Better than partaking. He's the first coach that partok in
- 2:14:10Speaker 3: our tier talk.
- 2:14:11Speaker 1: I don't like it, the one the sentence, though, I
- 2:14:12Speaker 1: don't like the word by itself more than the sentence.
- 2:14:15Speaker 5: My honorable mention is the cloud of smoke with the poop. Yeah,
- 2:14:20Speaker 5: the poop. It's like, you can use it in recruiting, like, hey,
- 2:14:22Speaker 5: this dude's fast. You can like, if you've been texting
- 2:14:26Speaker 5: the recruit and you don't text you back, you're like
- 2:14:27Speaker 5: you vanished on me. Like there's a lot of things. Yeah,
- 2:14:30Speaker 5: there's a lot of things usual late at night for us, though,
- 2:14:34Speaker 5: that's my honorable mention. Gosh, I'm so scared what to
- 2:14:38Speaker 5: say right now.
- 2:14:40Speaker 3: Hey, if you don't Hey, if you don't like it,
- 2:14:43Speaker 3: we can always I love it. I love it, I
- 2:14:44Speaker 3: love it, love love.
- 2:14:45Speaker 5: But I'm afraid there's gonna be like a like there's
- 2:14:47Speaker 5: someone on Twitter is gonna translate what I really mean
- 2:14:49Speaker 5: when I say why I use each one you're out there.
- 2:14:52Speaker 8: Number three for me is the eyes. The eyes is elite.
- 2:14:55Speaker 3: It's you guys. You guys covered it so well, so
- 2:14:57Speaker 3: thank you for that.
- 2:14:57Speaker 5: Number two is the absolute because I didn't even know
- 2:15:01Speaker 5: what it meant when I first when jac Horn said
- 2:15:02Speaker 5: it to me, one time, and I was like, what's
- 2:15:04Speaker 5: that mean?
- 2:15:04Speaker 3: I think we'll look it up, like why is it
- 2:15:09Speaker 3: just half his face?
- 2:15:10Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the most that's the biggest part about it,
- 2:15:13Speaker 1: is like why is he hiding?
- 2:15:13Speaker 5: Also, and so I'm going last as hard. You guys
- 2:15:16Speaker 5: have taken all the good ones. My last one, and
- 2:15:18Speaker 5: I use it a lot. Is is just the brain explosion,
- 2:15:21Speaker 5: you know, just half the face and the brain coming out.
- 2:15:23Speaker 3: Like, man, you blew my mind, Like, dude, that is
- 2:15:26Speaker 3: a dad emoji, right. I love thee I love that
- 2:15:29Speaker 3: you said that you pulled that one up.
- 2:15:31Speaker 1: I don't think i've seen it that one. Oh your
- 2:15:34Speaker 1: mind's blown.
- 2:15:35Speaker 3: My mind's blown.
- 2:15:35Speaker 8: Like oh yeah like that that that has so many
- 2:15:38Speaker 8: different meanings.
- 2:15:41Speaker 3: That's my deal. That's your deal. Oh oh you mind blown?
- 2:15:45Speaker 3: I'm blown?
- 2:15:46Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. One word.
- 2:15:50Speaker 3: I'm not ready me either, Boss strong boomer. That solid good.
- 2:16:05Speaker 3: He's getting initiated legend. This is this is hyphenated king ship.
- 2:16:12Speaker 1: Okay, Mitch al right, Mitch husked, Dad, Hey, that was
- 2:16:21Speaker 1: you did a really good job. You did that was outstanding.
- 2:16:23Speaker 3: Hard to go last, I'm hard to go last.
- 2:16:25Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel like we probably should let people
- 2:16:27Speaker 1: go second after they see how it's done, like one
- 2:16:29Speaker 1: of us goes first.
- 2:16:30Speaker 3: But I thought I thought that was that was a
- 2:16:32Speaker 3: good job. I love watching the conviction of him talking
- 2:16:34Speaker 3: to this about the mind blowing emoji. Yeah, the cloud
- 2:16:37Speaker 3: cloud of smoke too. Yeah. He was looking at me
- 2:16:40Speaker 3: telling you, go, uh, is your son gonna watch this?
- 2:16:46Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah see a busting fan. Oh yeah, oh
- 2:16:49Speaker 3: yeah right, that's the right answer. Out of respect that there.
- 2:16:53Speaker 3: I told him. I told him I was going to
- 2:16:54Speaker 3: be on here today. So he's pretty fired up. So
- 2:16:56Speaker 3: that's awesome. Yeah, it'll come out next week. It's a
- 2:16:58Speaker 3: good move. I it's a good move.
- 2:17:01Speaker 8: But coming on here, Yeah, why not?
- 2:17:02Speaker 3: Hear?
- 2:17:02Speaker 2: Of course it is because we're not gonna let other
- 2:17:04Speaker 2: coaches do if we're gonna you know, Michigan, I mean
- 2:17:06Speaker 2: we could let other coaches come on it.
- 2:17:08Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll probably, I mean probably any coach that once
- 2:17:10Speaker 3: we'll publicly. Yeah, we have anything else. The boys in
- 2:17:16Speaker 3: the back. I've got one question, jack you can always
- 2:17:20Speaker 3: count on Jackie Boy.
- 2:17:21Speaker 7: In twenty twenty six, Nebraska scheduled a non conference game
- 2:17:25Speaker 7: that will be taking place in Lincoln, and it's against
- 2:17:29Speaker 7: the Tennessee volunteers.
- 2:17:31Speaker 8: I would just like to know what your game plan
- 2:17:33Speaker 8: is so we can be ready in.
- 2:17:34Speaker 3: Three years repeat the Orange Bowl.
- 2:17:41Speaker 7: But realistically, i'm because we'll obviously big husk here.
- 2:17:45Speaker 3: I went to Tennessee.
- 2:17:45Speaker 7: I'm a big balls fan, and I'm really excited for
- 2:17:48Speaker 7: that game, even though it's three years away, because we
- 2:17:51Speaker 7: don't get to have the same competitive nature that Will
- 2:17:54Speaker 7: and Taylor do with Nebraska Michigan or how me and
- 2:17:57Speaker 7: Garrett do is Alabama and Tennessee. So I'm excited to
- 2:17:59Speaker 7: see some big ten SEC matchups. I guess, like a
- 2:18:03Speaker 7: realistic question is with you being new there and Josh
- 2:18:06Speaker 7: Hypel just coming in within the last two years, you
- 2:18:10Speaker 7: do you think you're gonna be on the same page.
- 2:18:12Speaker 7: How Josh has taking Tennessee not in the same necessarily
- 2:18:16Speaker 7: ballpark and like in terms of success.
- 2:18:19Speaker 3: But where am I going with us? We're going eleven
- 2:18:22Speaker 3: and one into the Orange Bowl. Brothers, what you're.
- 2:18:25Speaker 7: Saying, yeah, how do you plan on getting your guys
- 2:18:27Speaker 7: to buy in the way Hypel's gotten his guys to
- 2:18:30Speaker 7: buy in the last good way?
- 2:18:31Speaker 5: To round it out, Jack, first of all, say this,
- 2:18:34Speaker 5: I thing, I think Josh has done a great job
- 2:18:35Speaker 5: he really has, you know what, I I don't try
- 2:18:38Speaker 5: to get guys to buy in.
- 2:18:40Speaker 3: I just try to do what we do. And I'm sorry.
- 2:18:42Speaker 5: I try to do what we do and hope that
- 2:18:44Speaker 5: they believe in it. But I do think that these
- 2:18:47Speaker 5: the guys at Nebraska are hungry to win.
- 2:18:49Speaker 3: They want to win.
- 2:18:49Speaker 5: It's not one of those deals where it's like, who's
- 2:18:51Speaker 5: this guy that hopefully you know, they believe what we're
- 2:18:54Speaker 5: going to do. And I didn't come to lose.
- 2:18:56Speaker 3: I'll say that much. I didn't not come to lose.
- 2:19:01Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six, before you go a bit, twenty twenty
- 2:19:03Speaker 3: six awesome.
- 2:19:08Speaker 2: I don't know if we came to chew bubble gum
- 2:19:13Speaker 2: and beat ass and we're all out of bubblegum. Brother,
- 2:19:15Speaker 2: that's what's happening in September twelfth, the twenty six.
- 2:19:19Speaker 1: The tweet you sent yesterday about hypel was that from Eckler.
- 2:19:26Speaker 1: I don't know, Oh, I might assume to receive a
- 2:19:30Speaker 1: similar text.
- 2:19:32Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
- 2:19:32Speaker 2: That's out there in the stars, you know what I mean, Yeah,
- 2:19:34Speaker 2: that's in the cloud. I don't know if I was
- 2:19:37Speaker 2: a vessel where I came up with that on my own.
- 2:19:43Speaker 1: All right, bro, you know what I mean. Yeah, I'm
- 2:19:45Speaker 1: sorry you had to be a part of that. That
- 2:19:46Speaker 1: was That was a I probably could have waited till
- 2:19:48Speaker 1: after the podcast, Mitchie. What's your question, bubb.
- 2:19:52Speaker 6: So you're from Stay College, Pah, What was it like
- 2:19:56Speaker 6: playing under Joe Pah?
- 2:19:58Speaker 3: It was awesome.
- 2:20:00Speaker 5: Know one thing about coach Paterno was he uh he
- 2:20:03Speaker 5: like he was you know, he was a little bit
- 2:20:06Speaker 5: older when I got there. He had so much energy
- 2:20:08Speaker 5: at practice, like you could not you could not not
- 2:20:11Speaker 5: go hard. And he held the best players the most accountable.
- 2:20:15Speaker 5: Like a lot of a lot of coaches like they'll
- 2:20:16Speaker 5: they'll crush the walk ons, they let the best players
- 2:20:18Speaker 5: do what they want. Not Joe Like he was gonna
- 2:20:20Speaker 5: hold our best players the most accountable. So a guy
- 2:20:23Speaker 5: like me that was just like I was like, if
- 2:20:25Speaker 5: he's gonna do that to Kyle Brady or catch on
- 2:20:27Speaker 5: a Carter, I better stay.
- 2:20:28Speaker 3: And I think that that that meant a lot to me.
- 2:20:30Speaker 8: I learned a lot from him. And he was a man.
- 2:20:33Speaker 8: He was a He was a maniac in a good way.
- 2:20:35Speaker 3: At practice.
- 2:20:36Speaker 5: Man, he would run around and I mean when I
- 2:20:38Speaker 5: was on the scout team, I was on the scout team,
- 2:20:41Speaker 5: and I forget it was Curtisinis whoever like was injured,
- 2:20:44Speaker 5: say the green jersey, which means don't touch him. He
- 2:20:46Speaker 5: can practice, but don't touch him.
- 2:20:47Speaker 3: So I run up.
- 2:20:49Speaker 5: They throw on the ball, I run up, I break up.
- 2:20:50Speaker 5: I jump out of the way, and he comes running
- 2:20:52Speaker 5: over and he's like, what.
- 2:20:53Speaker 2: Are you doing?
- 2:20:54Speaker 7: Like, let's practice.
- 2:20:55Speaker 3: She gotta hit him.
- 2:20:56Speaker 5: And I didn't know what to do because I'm not
- 2:20:58Speaker 5: gonna talk back to my coach. And I said, coach,
- 2:21:00Speaker 5: he has a green jersey on. Coach lost it. He's like,
- 2:21:03Speaker 5: what do you mean the green jersey. He's like, I
- 2:21:06Speaker 5: don't care if you heard you gotta be a high practice.
- 2:21:08Speaker 5: And he also he walks away like eight feet. He
- 2:21:10Speaker 5: turns around, he goes, he goes, oh he had the
- 2:21:12Speaker 5: green jersey on. Good job, good job.
- 2:21:16Speaker 1: It was me.
- 2:21:17Speaker 3: Oh, he I got you. So he was awesome.
- 2:21:19Speaker 5: I love the man and like he he like, you know,
- 2:21:22Speaker 5: he we won, but we won. All of our guys
- 2:21:25Speaker 5: got degrees and got educations and went on ahead good lives.
- 2:21:27Speaker 3: So it was pretty cool.
- 2:21:31Speaker 10: Gee, I don't really have a question, but from our
- 2:21:36Speaker 10: previous experiences in Lincoln, it's always been a good time.
- 2:21:39Speaker 10: And I think, like I can agree with what Taylor
- 2:21:42Speaker 10: is saying, like you got a good energy, Like I'm
- 2:21:45Speaker 10: fired up to come.
- 2:21:46Speaker 1: To Lincoln this Yeah, that's gonna be a fun spring
- 2:21:48Speaker 1: football tour this year.
- 2:21:49Speaker 3: Like it's gonna be rocking. It already is rocking. But like, yeah, fan,
- 2:21:54Speaker 3: for sure, we'll be there. We will absolutely be there.
- 2:21:56Speaker 3: You'll be on, You'll be on again, except we'll be
- 2:21:58Speaker 3: in your house. Let's do it.
- 2:21:59Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be all I already told my onus. He's
- 2:22:01Speaker 2: a Husker now he's an honorable Husker.
- 2:22:02Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. Oh and you got
- 2:22:04Speaker 3: to coach a mirror too, Oh yeah, a mirror. How
- 2:22:07Speaker 3: much of a stud is he?
- 2:22:08Speaker 1: A mirror? A mirror?
- 2:22:09Speaker 5: So we did those Thursday night dinners. So Mirror came
- 2:22:11Speaker 5: over with the running backs and next week I had
- 2:22:13Speaker 5: the receivers over and.
- 2:22:15Speaker 3: Came over again.
- 2:22:15Speaker 5: He's like, just pet the dog and hang out like
- 2:22:18Speaker 5: I love when he when he left, he gave me
- 2:22:20Speaker 5: a book and just his kind of guy. He is right, thoughtfully,
- 2:22:23Speaker 5: just gave me a book that he thought I would like.
- 2:22:24Speaker 5: I just I mean, he's a true pro. And when
- 2:22:27Speaker 5: I got this job.
- 2:22:27Speaker 3: I called him.
- 2:22:28Speaker 5: I was like, hey, right before I took the job,
- 2:22:29Speaker 5: I was like, hey, gonna head you have some questions
- 2:22:32Speaker 5: here in a day or two. And then I took
- 2:22:34Speaker 5: the job. And he's been unbelievable.
- 2:22:36Speaker 2: He's the best man. He's a snud, he's a big study. Yeah,
- 2:22:41Speaker 2: I don't think I have anything else to you, No,
- 2:22:43Speaker 2: I I am going to think greatly appreciate you coming
- 2:22:46Speaker 2: on this podcast. I know you're super busy, so it
- 2:22:49Speaker 2: was awesome to have you on. This was like legit awesome,
- 2:22:52Speaker 2: thank you you.
- 2:22:53Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah when I when you shot the text, I
- 2:22:55Speaker 3: was fired up.
- 2:22:55Speaker 2: Hit the boys right away. But yeah, this has been incredible.
- 2:22:58Speaker 2: This has been incredible. I'm trying to like, because you
- 2:23:00Speaker 2: know your boys and your boys and some sage too,
- 2:23:03Speaker 2: your boys in some player group chats of the Huskers.
- 2:23:05Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if there's anything that the boys
- 2:23:06Speaker 2: will want me to ask, I don't think so.
- 2:23:09Speaker 3: I'm fired up that tea night's there.
- 2:23:11Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably heard me going some spiels in the
- 2:23:13Speaker 2: locker room back in Washington about black shirts and what
- 2:23:15Speaker 2: happened this.
- 2:23:16Speaker 3: Week and that week. He better not a pot ROAs
- 2:23:18Speaker 3: you better not be talking.
- 2:23:19Speaker 2: To kids about losing weight now, because I remember your
- 2:23:22Speaker 2: couple your last years in Washington talking about he wouldn't
- 2:23:25Speaker 2: get on the scales, t about all his budgets changed.
- 2:23:31Speaker 5: Is the best I was his position coaches when when
- 2:23:33Speaker 5: I first went to Temple his sophomore I was the
- 2:23:35Speaker 5: D line coach, and that whole first week I had him.
- 2:23:38Speaker 5: He had done something wrong in school and I showed
- 2:23:40Speaker 5: up whole first week every morning six am.
- 2:23:41Speaker 3: Him and me like just that's how.
- 2:23:43Speaker 5: Our relationship started. So now we're sitting there like in
- 2:23:46Speaker 5: an academic talk talking to somebody, I'm like, who are
- 2:23:48Speaker 5: you talking to? You know, he's he's he's a wonderful person,
- 2:23:52Speaker 5: like and and uh, you know he played at two
- 2:23:54Speaker 5: ninety five that year I made. I had to keep
- 2:23:56Speaker 5: him onnder three hundred and he's not he didn't play
- 2:23:58Speaker 5: it two ninety five in the week.
- 2:23:59Speaker 3: Did not keep him. Yeah, under three hundred pounds. Washington
- 2:24:02Speaker 3: was waging in Washington.
- 2:24:03Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, but we had to get him.
- 2:24:04Speaker 2: I think we called a gap gas. But we had
- 2:24:07Speaker 2: to gap him to the side of the tilt, like
- 2:24:10Speaker 2: you know, the the YU pair. Yeah, we'd have to
- 2:24:12Speaker 2: gap him to get going because you know you're you're
- 2:24:15Speaker 2: anticipating stretch just to get him going so he wouldn't
- 2:24:17Speaker 2: get cut off.
- 2:24:18Speaker 3: Those are the best players to play games. Yeah, but
- 2:24:20Speaker 3: he was a stud. I mean he made a lot
- 2:24:21Speaker 3: of money, especially in Denver. He won a Super Bowl.
- 2:24:23Speaker 3: Like he was a STUS All State receiver. No ship,
- 2:24:26Speaker 3: he was a receiver in high school.
- 2:24:27Speaker 8: Grew into a tight end.
- 2:24:31Speaker 3: Legit. But I was like, I was gonna bring that up.
- 2:24:33Speaker 1: I was just bring that up for you.
- 2:24:35Speaker 3: Oh it's so funny. But no ship. For real. He
- 2:24:38Speaker 3: was a receiver turned tight end and when I got there,
- 2:24:40Speaker 3: he was a d lineman and then he became pot roast.
- 2:24:43Speaker 3: So yeah, man, he did become pot roast.
- 2:24:45Speaker 2: He's in I think it was like Bridgestone tire commercially
- 2:24:47Speaker 2: is that you said they'll break it?
- 2:24:49Speaker 3: He has it on his phone. Other thinks about, oh
- 2:24:51Speaker 3: you're talking about this, I haven't have it right here,
- 2:24:55Speaker 3: go ahead.
- 2:24:55Speaker 1: I was gonna ask where were you at in two
- 2:24:57Speaker 1: thousand and eight?
- 2:24:59Speaker 5: Two thousand eight, I would have been at Western Carolina
- 2:25:03Speaker 5: University and no, no, no, no no, I was at
- 2:25:05Speaker 5: Temple University as an assistant coach.
- 2:25:08Speaker 1: Did you get offered by Temple m h. No, neither
- 2:25:10Speaker 1: did die any recruit y'all.
- 2:25:14Speaker 2: You know, I remember the Panthers offered to fly him
- 2:25:18Speaker 2: in last year, year nine?
- 2:25:20Speaker 3: Do you remember that? Yes? If if only I would
- 2:25:23Speaker 3: have been there a little longer this year, we could
- 2:25:25Speaker 3: have made something happen.
- 2:25:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:25:26Speaker 3: Yeah, did you think to bring Will confident again?
- 2:25:29Speaker 1: You know what I I was.
- 2:25:30Speaker 3: I was running for my life at that point. It
- 2:25:31Speaker 3: was I was two guys ended up bringing in Ravens linebacker.
- 2:25:37Speaker 3: He played at Ravens for a while.
- 2:25:39Speaker 8: Josh Bines.
- 2:25:40Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys ended up bringing him in.
- 2:25:42Speaker 2: Uh because Perryman got traded?
- 2:25:45Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 2:25:46Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I I do have a question. Chat was
- 2:25:49Speaker 2: blowing up a little bit when they saw the wide
- 2:25:51Speaker 2: receiver coach higher. How do you get a wide receiver
- 2:25:53Speaker 2: coach being PC to sell the next guy who wants
- 2:25:57Speaker 2: to be the next Julio Jones in a living room?
- 2:26:00Speaker 2: Him be the coach, Him be the wide receiver coach
- 2:26:02Speaker 2: in that room, correla room mainly of athletes being PC,
- 2:26:07Speaker 2: staying PC. You're a wide receiver coach Higher, I'm assuming
- 2:26:10Speaker 2: we're talking this coach is pale. He's yeah, he's he's
- 2:26:12Speaker 2: a little pale. He's on the pale side, the small
- 2:26:14Speaker 2: some people all are pale side.
- 2:26:16Speaker 8: Some people like he's twenty three, twenty fourths. Some people
- 2:26:18Speaker 8: say like why would you know?
- 2:26:20Speaker 6: Young?
- 2:26:20Speaker 5: Yes, young too, and like I I think, I think
- 2:26:23Speaker 5: he's probably one of the best football minds I've ever
- 2:26:25Speaker 5: been around. I think I'll be I'll struggle to keep
- 2:26:27Speaker 5: him for three or four years. Like I he could
- 2:26:29Speaker 5: have stayed in the NFL. It's just his loyalty to
- 2:26:31Speaker 5: me that he would even leave the NFL. He he
- 2:26:33Speaker 5: could have stayed for multiple piece. I think he's I
- 2:26:36Speaker 5: think he's gonna be I think he's gonna be brilliant.
- 2:26:38Speaker 5: And you know, for me, the program, will you know,
- 2:26:43Speaker 5: I'll run the overall program, like you know, like there's
- 2:26:47Speaker 5: the players are gonna be loved, but they're they're also
- 2:26:49Speaker 5: gonna you know, we have standards. They're all everybody's gonna
- 2:26:52Speaker 5: do it there you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one. There's
- 2:26:54Speaker 5: gonna be ups and downs, and I'm low key about that.
- 2:26:57Speaker 5: But we really want guys who want to be pros.
- 2:27:00Speaker 5: We really want guys who want to be good players.
- 2:27:01Speaker 5: And so to me, what I've learned over time is like,
- 2:27:04Speaker 5: you know, sometimes people think I should go play for
- 2:27:06Speaker 5: him because he played in the league this long.
- 2:27:07Speaker 3: I actually go play for this.
- 2:27:09Speaker 5: At the end of the day, the coach can help
- 2:27:10Speaker 5: you be better, he can, you know what I'm saying,
- 2:27:12Speaker 5: Like if if, like when I went to be the
- 2:27:14Speaker 5: assistant online coach of the Giants.
- 2:27:15Speaker 8: I'd never I'm not an old lineman.
- 2:27:17Speaker 3: How could I help?
- 2:27:18Speaker 1: Well?
- 2:27:18Speaker 3: I could.
- 2:27:18Speaker 8: I could break down every move that Geno Atkins had done.
- 2:27:21Speaker 5: I could go to these guys who are all pros
- 2:27:23Speaker 5: and be like, hey, look I broke down two hundred snaps.
- 2:27:25Speaker 3: Here's what I got.
- 2:27:26Speaker 5: I found the way to create value for myself. So
- 2:27:28Speaker 5: to me, the best coaches are the ones who can
- 2:27:31Speaker 5: help you be a good player. And so when you've
- 2:27:33Speaker 5: when you've coached in the NFL and now you come
- 2:27:36Speaker 5: back to college, I just think he's I think he
- 2:27:38Speaker 5: and some of the other guys that hired a young guys,
- 2:27:40Speaker 5: I think they're brilliant. I just I got tired of
- 2:27:43Speaker 5: hiring coaches with big names who didn't really want to
- 2:27:45Speaker 5: put the work in. You know what I'm saying, Like,
- 2:27:47Speaker 5: I got tired of hiring coaches who have like their
- 2:27:49Speaker 5: own personal brand, Like I want guys who are in
- 2:27:50Speaker 5: it for the players. As a player, I believe you
- 2:27:53Speaker 5: can feel whether the coach is in it for you
- 2:27:54Speaker 5: or not. And so if a player doesn't want that,
- 2:27:56Speaker 5: then he's probably not right for us. But yeah, I
- 2:27:59Speaker 5: had a lot of will say that to me, and
- 2:28:00Speaker 5: I honestly, can I tell you how I really feel
- 2:28:02Speaker 5: kind of like you guys brought me here because you're
- 2:28:04Speaker 5: not winning, So why are you?
- 2:28:05Speaker 8: Why are you worried about what I'm doing?
- 2:28:06Speaker 5: Just let me do it, like like wait three years
- 2:28:08Speaker 5: and then but sometimes you know there's so much interest
- 2:28:10Speaker 5: you're gonna kind of be into it a lot, Like
- 2:28:13Speaker 5: like I believe we're gonna win, and I believe we're
- 2:28:15Speaker 5: gonna win doing it this way. You know, as I go,
- 2:28:17Speaker 5: I'll adapt and learn. And I don't know Nebraska yet.
- 2:28:20Speaker 5: But the smartest thing, hopefully that I can do is
- 2:28:22Speaker 5: is put the right people in the building. And Garrett,
- 2:28:25Speaker 5: I think is telling you I think he's gonna be
- 2:28:27Speaker 5: a I think he's be a head coach today. And
- 2:28:29Speaker 5: so like having Cooper my dB coach, I've I've had
- 2:28:31Speaker 5: him with me forever. Some of the top coaches in football,
- 2:28:33Speaker 5: like Fran Brown's a dB coach at George, like I
- 2:28:35Speaker 5: gave him his first job. Elijah Robinson's a D line
- 2:28:38Speaker 5: coach at A and M. He's making one point two
- 2:28:40Speaker 5: million to be the D line coach. Everyone tries to
- 2:28:41Speaker 5: hire him as their DC, like I hired him as
- 2:28:43Speaker 5: from a player development guy. So I've always hired young
- 2:28:45Speaker 5: people that I think that guy is gonna be special.
- 2:28:48Speaker 5: And I watched them take off, and I think that's.
- 2:28:51Speaker 3: What Gary will do. Mhmm. Coach, I appreciate you coming on.
- 2:28:54Speaker 2: Yeah, you's been fucking awesome for retanding.
- 2:28:58Speaker 3: I don't think we have anything else say. Subscribe. We
- 2:29:00Speaker 3: hope you love this.
- 2:29:01Speaker 2: Nebraska dropped the B dropped the GBR. Also the big
- 2:29:04Speaker 2: cop energy in the chat, all that stuff. Coach Rule,
- 2:29:07Speaker 2: You've been phenomenal, phenomenal. Thank you, Big hugs, tiny kisses,