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The Aha Awakening: A Live Healing Session with Sandra Cooze · Terri Messenger's Genius Zone

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Hey, hey, hey, and welcome to this week's most exciting, most
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unique and most incredible podcast.
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Now, what we're about to do in this podcast is like no other
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than I've ever done before. I'm about to take you on a
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journey where you're going to understand the concept of having
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the biggest aha moment and how that can completely turn your
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life around. We are going to open up a new
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door that is usually closed and kept behind the scenes.
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We're going to invite you to come in and learn about a real
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life healing from a distance. And yet, as you witness it, you
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are gonna have your own downloads, you're gonna have
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your own inspirations, and you are gonna have a taste of what
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it's like to shift your frequency.
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So are you curious? Well, if you are, so am I.
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Because I'm about to go out on a limb and do something I've never
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done before. Because I'm about to become a
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client for a beautiful woman whose gift is unexplainable, she
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asked me that she wanted to be known as absolutely nothing.
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When I asked her what she wanted to be known for, it was
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absolutely nothing. Now, in my world, what that
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tells me is that absolutely nothing means absolutely
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everything. It's limitless.
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And this is a place in a space where you can become limitless
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too, because this is a place that the humble silence can
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reveal itself. And that mystery and that aha
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moment that this divine woman is able to give people to change
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the trajectory of their lives is nothing short of phenomenal.
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And yet it is a gift from God above.
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So come and enjoy the real magic.
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And as I bring her on, I can tell you what her name is.
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But I'm not going to put her in a box or give her a title other
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than to let you know. She is the Queen of Aha moments,
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and she is the insightful, discerning woman that wants to
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be known as nothing. And yet I say everything.
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So with no further ado, I give you the beautiful Sandra Koos.
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Hello, Sandra, how are you? Hello, Terry.
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I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.
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How are you doing? I'm going, well, I'm nervous.
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I must say. I'm very nervous because I'm
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about to enter into your space. And, you know, I mean, we can be
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like, there's nobody here that's listening or looking, and you
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can just be incredibly yourself. But let's start this by
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explaining to our audience where you come from because, you know,
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you do deal in trauma. So trauma is something that you
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believe keeps people in, you know, in the way of themselves.
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It keeps them stuck. Can you talk me through a little
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bit about trauma and how it affected you and what you've
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known about that? Sure.
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Well, where should I start? I've had quite a few traumas in
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my life. I was molested when I was 12,
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sexually arrested at 14, bullied in school between the age of 16
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to 17, sexually assaulted multiple times between the age
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of 19 and 25, raped at 22. And when I went to see a
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psychologist to help me because I didn't like the person I had
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become, he dismissed me after our main tech session with the
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words you've already worked through it all.
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What am I supposed to do? And then I hit rock bottom
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because I was deserved. A friends and family couldn't
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help me and mental health professionals didn't know how
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because there were no trauma informed and I had a choice to
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make. I had to choose what I want to
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be staying down at rock bottom and maybe go and do drugs or
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alcohol or even worse, take my own life or if I would climb
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back out. I climbed back out and that led
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me on the most amazing healing journey aha.
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Moments where are constant in my life and I learned so much about
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trauma, what it truly is and what it really stops us from
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becoming. I love that it's so trauma stops
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us from what we are becoming and yet we become as a result of our
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trauma. Like you said backstage, Oprah
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Winfrey inspired you with her wounds.
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Was it wounds to wisdom turn? Your wounds into wisdom, yeah.
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Wow. And I say pain to power and
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story to glory. So that is what this is
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definitely all about. Now, before we get into the
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nitty gritty piece of the session, I want to give you the
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stage to talk to me about the courts, the moment when one of
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your friends told you you'd better get one already and, you
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know, explain to the audience. And I want to know myself
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because I'm probably going to go out and invest in one.
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So I would like you to talk about what it is and what your
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friend meant by get one already and what effect it can have on a
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person's life or you know, most importantly your own life of.
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Course. Well, the day that happened, I
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still smile about because it's it was so profound.
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And yeah, it was kind of funny actually, when I think about it.
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I was in my early 20s. It must have been like a month
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or so after I went to see the psychologist.
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I had a friend and he was very spiritual.
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His father was a Reiki master. He knew about energy and
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crystals and all that and I knew nothing.
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Now I grew up in Germany where everything is more religious and
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spiritual is. Back then it was so there was no
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one who really could explain to me about spirituality and except
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for him so and one day he came to visit me.
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He saw me sitting on a couch, looking like a heap of misery,
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was totally defeated, and he stood in front of me, hands on
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his hips, stern face, and said get a quartz crystal already.
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And I had absolutely no idea what he meant.
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That's so funny. And what did he mean?
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So tell us what is a quartz crystal and what can it do for?
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Us. OK, well crystals emit energy.
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It can be proven. It's already books written about
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it. So there's actually scientific
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proof behind that. And every crystal vibrates in a
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certain frequency. So let's say when you're, let's
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say when you have a cold, you're sick.
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So then you frequency is different.
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And then you can take a crystal that helps with colds and flus
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and it will rebalance the frequency to what it where it
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should be and help you heal. Now this is the same with trauma
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or anything else. Which means the quartz crystal
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is also called the poor man's diamond because it's so powerful
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in helping us heal. So the IT equals the monetary
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value of a clean cut diamond. And what we do is, well, my
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friend and I went to a flea market and went to buy a crystal
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and he explained to me that I needed to pick take them in my
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hand and see which one felt right.
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For some, it may be they start to tingle or they get warm, or
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they just feel good in the hand or you cannot let it down.
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I could not take this crystal out of my hand even if I wanted
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to. It's like it was fused.
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I could not muster the power to take it out of my hand.
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So this is a sure sign if you're supposed to take it.
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Well, this. Is the best.
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I think I'm going to go out on the weekend and get myself a
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quartz crystal. So I do love them anyway.
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So I'm a magpie. I love shiny things.
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And, you know, I'm getting very nervous because we're about to
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go into a, you know, and I want to tell people why we're doing
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this because, you know, as a podcaster, my role is to bring
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out the genius zone in everyone. And, you know, this is something
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that we all have within us. And when I went on a deep dive
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with you, Sandra, what I discovered is it's not about a
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title. It's not about all of these
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certifications or accreditations.
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This is about a limitless discerning healing and an
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element that comes from total experience.
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And also almost like you've been led by spirit.
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So, you know, we decided that we would do this on the show, which
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is very unique. And I'm giving permission.
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And maybe people won't even get to see this.
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Who knows? Maybe you'll be lucky enough to
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see this. Maybe you'll be fortunate and
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blessed enough to hear it if you get to hear Sandra Cruz's
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beautiful way that she'll just, you know, go into this session
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with me. But firstly, I want to set the
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mood here and say if you are listening and you know yourself
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that you've got a challenge, you've got something in your
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life that you understand, that you're blocked by trauma.
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I want you to know that as you hear these words and this
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conversation that happens between Sandra and myself, this
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is really going to pour into your spirit.
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Your vibrational energy is going to rise.
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And I'm gonna say, you know, especially when you stay to the
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end, because there's gonna be moments where we're gonna go
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through the mud a little bit and there's gonna be questions that
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Sandra's gonna ask. However you stay to the end,
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your energy is going to rise. So is that OK with you, Sandra,
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if I say that 'cause I just did? Yes, it's OK.
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OK, awesome. All right, so let's get down in
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the mud. Like I say, let's get down
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grounded and dirty or whatever we need to do.
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And I'm going to hand over to you, I guess if I'm coming to
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see you, what would be, you know, what's the first thing
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that comes up that you would ask?
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And I'm going to let you take it away from here, OK?
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Well, first, if you came to me, we would have an intake session,
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so where we would get to know one another.
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Because what's important for me is that you feel safe with me.
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Because if you're going to go deep in your trauma, you have to
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feel safe to actually really dig deep.
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So if you don't like me, it's not going to work.
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We call that rapport building. So there's your first teaching
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everyone build rapport. You know whether you're a coach,
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healer, leader, or whether you are a parent, teacher or a
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friend. If you want to be influential,
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build rapport. Yes, very important.
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And as a trauma healer, the first thing is you need to be
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healed. I always tell my clients who
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want to go into trauma healing like I do, or any other modality
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that has to do with other people.
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You can only help someone heal as far as you have healed
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yourself. Wow, that is, that is profound.
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Did you grab that? Everyone?
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You can only heal as much as you've been healed yourself.
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Wow. So the more you get healed, the
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more the more profound. And I know from my own community
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and a lot of my community, they literally sit and wait for 7:00
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PM Friday night for the podcast to drop because they know
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they're all coaches, healers and leaders and they want to get
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inspiration. So they're going to love that.
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They're going to love hearing that.
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Wonderful. OK.
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You're ready. I am.
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I am ready. I am so ready.
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And I even allowed that silence to just create that scene so
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that I guess obviously you're picking up on some energy as
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well. Yes.
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So how would you like to start? Would you like to give a teeny
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back story of what we're going to talk about as we did
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backstage and then we dive in. Yeah, of course, absolutely.
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So back story, you know, I did transform my life massively in
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2006, and I won't go into that detail, but there was a massive
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transformation of a lot of my life.
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And then I asked myself the worst question ever about 18
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months ago, and that was that. Because I, you know, I've been
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practicing as a trainer, coach Sheila, since 2006.
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I said, well, if everyone's evolving out of their trauma and
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if every new level is a new devil, you know, what's my next
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level? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
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And I'll, I'll tell you something very interesting,
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Sandra. And this was a little bit
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different. I had an astrologist on the show
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and you know, we didn't do what we're doing exactly.
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We, but we give a like a little 5 minute, like a maybe a three
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to five minute sequence where they can bring their, their
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treasure to the show so that our listeners can really benefit.
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And so we said, oh, well, let's do some astrology, you know, and
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you know, you, you can do me. And I gave her all my elements,
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my star sign when I was bored, et cetera, et cetera.
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And she was shocked when we got to the end of the show for those
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3 minutes. And she started to talk about,
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you know, she told me some things.
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And then when we wound up and we finished the show, she went,
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Terry, she said, I didn't want to say it on the show.
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She said but you're not going to be where you are.
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And I was in this great big two-story dream fairy tale house
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with my husband, a chiropractor. She said, you know, everything's
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going to change. And I could tell she was holding
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back from me and you know, and there she was.
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And she wasn't that experienced to be honest with you.
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And she won't mind me saying this because it was true, but
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she gave me more wisdom than I had from someone who would been
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around for 20 years in her industry.
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And so it it so it meant to be, well, not meant to be.
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What happened was that we went on this journey and Long story
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short, my husband went on a journey where he just went into
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a big downward slide and he got vascular dementia or diabetes 3
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as a result of out of control diabetes.
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But we, we were, you know, he was struggling for a while, but
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we didn't know. But then he doesn't do anything
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in half measures. So this day now bringing it into
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the now, he can't talk, he's non verbal so he can't walk and he
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can barely move. So I sort of value the moments
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where he's lucid and I find myself, I'm a very strong
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advocate. I'm very good at what I do as
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well. But a lot of doctors and a lot
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of people in the authority areas are having a lot of problems
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because I am his voice and I'm speaking for him.
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And I, at the moment, if I'm going to be like present tense,
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are going through where I can see they've put him on a
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medication that has made him decline even further and he
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can't even swallow food. And I'm telling them really, you
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know, this has got to stop. And I suppose if I'm looking at
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it from my own trauma, it's probably around feeling like I'm
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not being hurt. And then there's this battle of,
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if I'm going to be truly honest, because I've still got that, of
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course, I'm a human being. So even when I'm reaching out
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and I'm, I'm saying what I'm saying, I still have this little
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thing in the back of my head as I'm being judged.
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They're going to reject me. They're not going to like me.
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This is going to happen. And I find that there's that
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part of me that shrinks. And I mean, even someone very
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close to me says, maybe, maybe you just need to shut up,
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whatever. I don't know.
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But then another part of me says, no, keep going.
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And so what's my trauma? I guess my trauma is obviously
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that I feel like I can save the world.
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And I feel like I want to rescue him.
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Yes, I'm going to be honest and yes, I am advocating.
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And I've walked through the trenches to do it.
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But then there's that thing of me that's feeling like I'm not
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being hurt and I'm in fear with what's going to happen to him as
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a result of not being hurt. Is that you can ask me any
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questions from that if you like. Thank you.
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Thank you for being so open. Well, the first thing that comes
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to my mind is energy frequency. What I mean is we as healers, as
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divine beings, we are already moved in the 5th dimension, but
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the doctors, the nurses, they're all in the third dimension in
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the system still. So which means when you come
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from a higher level of the vibration, use your words are
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different. The energy of your words is
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different, so it doesn't resonate with them.
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Oh my God, boom right there. Sorry, can I just grab that?
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That is that is true because they're like, what's she talking
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about? And I can sense that and they
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don't know and I don't know. And we're, we're, we're going
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like this. But exactly.
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That's it. Exactly because your vibration
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is higher and they it's not about the words, it's about the
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vibration of the word. That's like when you have a
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discussion with a friend, a Co worker, someone and they just
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say what did you just say? What did you say?
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I don't care what did you just say?
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And you're like, do I spit your knees or something?
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You know, actually, but you're right about this.
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That is a huge aha moment right there, right?
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So how you fix that is you go down to their level of
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understanding. I know yes, but but they cannot
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get to your level. They're not there yet so you
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have to I wouldn't say dumb it down, but vibrationally dumb it
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down so they understand it's at their vibration so you can watch
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how they're talking. They're the doctors.
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If especially they're male, they're probably going to
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condescending. Like what does she know exactly?
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How did you? Know that.
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Go to their level of understanding.
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It's like what's? Yeah, and and look, I don't mean
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anything negative about them when I go oh, it's just that I
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just cannot believe how on point you are like, wow, that is
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massive. I just I do need to just
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acknowledge you there because that is a massive aha moment.
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I didn't see that coming. I didn't know that that's what
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it was that you know, there's and, and I should know because
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I'm a teacher of rapport. And what do you do when you
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rapport? You get onto people's levels.
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I didn't even see that. And that's usually the main
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issue with anything. It's always about energy, always
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about vibration. So you basically need to match
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how they're talking, not in the aggressiveness or assertiveness,
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but the level they understand. So it's the same with Reiki.
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When you talk about someone about Reiki and they're like,
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huh, what is this? So you go to their level.
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So usually I explain it in terms like how it happens in the body,
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you know, like you hit your elbow and it hurts what you do,
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you rub it. What happens with Reiki?
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Well, the energy works through the body and when you hit it,
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then the energy gets paralyzed. And that's why you see stars.
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The energy gets stuck there for a moment and can't move
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anywhere. And more energy is adding up to
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the energy jam. But if you rub it, then the
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energy gets mobilized faster. That's why the pain goes away
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faster. If you rub the elbow, then if we
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can't, then it takes longer. So I explained Reggie to them in
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a way that they can actually picture and understand even
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though they have no clue about energy, right And the same and
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it says with any communication they are not at your level
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energetically. So your words don't make sense
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to them. So.
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That's what it is. Lower the energy.
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OK, dumb it down. Yes, I don't like saying it like
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this because. You know, nobody else.
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No, it's not dumbing it down like they're smarter than me.
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They're in in books and medics and all that sort of thing.
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So don't hear me putting them down.
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What I'm getting is you're saying dumb down the energy,
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dumb down the, the frequency. So that's a very interesting
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because I mean, you know, I talk about that in terms of words and
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you know, if somebody is talking very low energy and they're
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they're sort of speaking this, you don't come and go.
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And then you you're talking up here at a high level 'cause
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you're gonna be hitting and missing.
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But what you're saying is exactly the same thing.
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Only I didn't even get that because it's an energetic
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component and I have the utmost respect that I know that they
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know. I always know that everyone, it
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doesn't matter. They don't have to be a doctor
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or a medic to know more than me. But I believe that everybody
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will know something that the other person doesn't know, if
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that makes sense, because that's why the genie is so, so OK, So
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do you feel by me? Actually, I guess dumbing down
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the energy because I'll just put it in that realm.
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And that is a huge aha moment. I mean, and you'd think that my
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energy would be terrible, wouldn't you?
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Because I mean, what I'm going through, you know, going through
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such a massive crisis and yet I, my energy seems to be higher
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than I can even recall. Do you have any explanation
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around that? Yes.
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Well, yes, your energy is a little lower because of that.
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And I already started doing my trauma Reiki on you, pulling
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some of the energy out and guiding in.
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But this is different. The vibration you're in is still
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higher because you're an enlightened being and you are
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embracing that. So this is two different things.
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You're still in the 5th dimension because your mind is
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already there, but your body, yes, is struggling and stress
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and worry and then anxiousness and then a little upset and
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anger, which is the next part of the communication.
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As soon as you let your emotions be seen or heard, they shut down
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and say, well, she's just an emotional woman.
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That's the downside of being a woman with all our emotions that
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are great, but men don't understand that.
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So which means emotions have nothing to do in communication.
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As soon as emotions come in, they shut down.
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So the facts logic, if and most people that think they have to
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explain and talk all the time. No, take a breather, just
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internally breathe, count to 10. And as you breathe out, you let
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this frustration go and then you focus on the task at hand, which
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is only the facts and why you don't want them to have that.
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Not because you feel don't ever start with I feel you already
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lost them at the I feel. So you say, I see this, I see
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he's declining, I see he can't swallow.
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So ask for the side effects of the medication or look it up
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yourself. So you have a sheet saying well,
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this and this is the side effect.
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This is what he has, so get me something different.
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Stay with the facts, be assertive and don't let your
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emotions in. And this is the hard part.
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That's huge that that is really, really huge.
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Stay with the facts and don't let the emotions in.
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So it's, it's very, very interesting to, to do that and
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to say that because it's, it's interesting that part of my, I
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guess upbringing and the way that I have, I guess created
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stories and beliefs within myself have been around, you
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know, kind of like softening the blow with everything.
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If you are telling someone something assertive, rather than
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sort of going in and just bang saying it how it is, kind of
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like almost putting cotton wool around it and allowing the the
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the landing to be gentle. But that doesn't actually work,
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does it? No, I don't sugarcoat things.
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I'm being very direct and to the point, and my clients love it,
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actually. So the same thing is in
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conversations. Because if you're afraid to
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speak up, ask yourself what's the worst thing that can happen?
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What is the very worst thing in this moment that could happen if
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you actually spoke up and set boundaries?
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What's the worst thing? They might be upset because they
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don't like boundaries. I mean, every doctor by default
29:25
has a little bit of narcissism in them because they have to,
29:29
you know, that they cannot get emotionally involved.
29:32
They have to stay out of it. So they have this wall up.
29:36
So of course, they cannot deal with emotions they don't want
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to. They have this all day long.
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So if you want to get through to them, be assertive.
29:45
That's what they need. Yes.
29:48
So they need they, they need that assertiveness and very
29:53
straightforwardness and just facts and figures.
29:56
So you talk about, you know, Speaking of narcissism and
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you've talked about some of your clients who have, you know,
30:07
found themself with a narcissistic partner, say, for
30:12
example. So I digress a little bit here,
30:14
but it's interesting that just reminded me of this because I
30:20
know for people that are listing into this, it really comes down
30:24
to relationships, isn't it? So it's all about relationships
30:28
and, you know, what are we attracting?
30:31
And, you know, are we attracting narcissists into our life?
30:36
Are we attracting because really, we've got to take our
30:39
own responsibility, don't we? So even with myself, I've got to
30:45
say to myself, well, you know, what am I attracting here
30:49
anyways? And what is it that I'm doing
30:52
that's attracting that? And I noticed that when you were
30:55
backstage, you were talking about how you help clients who
31:00
have attracted narcissistic partners and they've discovered
31:06
that they're kind of like married or they've got together
31:10
with their their mother or their father or, you know, a parent.
31:15
And, you know, what do you think that is about where we do find
31:21
ourselves in the same kind of pattern, different day,
31:25
different week. Like, even though I'm talking
31:27
about something tangible here, I can say that look, even though
31:32
I've never had this happen before in my life, I've had very
31:36
similar incidences where it's about my assertiveness.
31:41
And so it comes back to what are we attracting?
31:44
But what do you think is about us attracting the same sort of
31:50
thing over and over again? Is it a life lesson so we can
31:53
have that aha moment and move out with it?
31:57
Yes, it's very simple. It's again about vibration.
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Because when you are growing up and you're growing up in a
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narcissistic family, then you don't know that this is what's
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happening for you. This is just life.
32:12
So if a child is abused, that's life for them.
32:15
They don't know that this is wrong.
32:18
And so they're growing up with that.
32:21
And so they have a certain vibration around themselves.
32:24
So with their limiting beliefs, their self sabotaging behavior,
32:27
their doubts, their fears, like people pleasing, for example,
32:31
you know, when you crave love and you do something nice for
32:35
your parents to say as a as a toddler, you help them empty the
32:38
grocery bags and they give you this huge smile and say thank
32:41
you. That was so great, which parents
32:44
think is a good thing. But what they teach their
32:46
children is, well, you get love when you're doing something for
32:49
me, even though it's not the intent of the parent.
32:53
I mean, any parent does that, you know, and encourages them to
32:56
do more and better. But it can backfire, as with
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narcissism. It's even worse because they're
33:03
never happy. No matter what you do, it's
33:06
never good enough. So you try harder and harder and
33:09
harder. And so you grow up believing you
33:12
have to do things for others in order to be loved or don't speak
33:16
up or the love is being taken away.
33:17
So if you have your own opinion, it's not being liked by your
33:20
parents. Well, like silent treatment.
33:24
That's what I grew up with even though my mother was not a
33:27
narcissist, but still. Yeah, yeah, I, I hear it.
33:32
And and it's interesting when we understand what is actually
33:37
going on. That aha moment, as you most
33:41
famously talk about, is very much the moment where we can go.
33:47
OK, so now you've told me that when I come to think of it, Oh
33:51
my gosh, why didn't I even think of that?
33:53
Sometimes you need someone to to actually help you.
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And this is where Sandra is going to help you.
34:00
Have your aha moment. I can tell you if I can have an
34:03
aha moment in that short amount of time just by speaking with
34:08
this beautiful lady for 10 minutes and maybe not even that,
34:14
then imagine what you can get. But I just want to draw on
34:18
something else we spoke about backstage, and that was when you
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looked at yourself in the mirror.
34:24
Now, this is a very interesting one from my perspective as a
34:28
clinical hypnotherapist. Because, you know, we always
34:32
recognize that if a person needed to break a bad habit,
34:37
usually what happens is that it's not about OK, I want to be
34:42
slim. However, what the world didn't
34:46
realize is that do you realize there's a reason that you are
34:50
keeping the extra layers on? But I'd like you to talk about
34:56
the story of what happened to you when you looked in the
35:00
mirror and what you asked yourself and then how that felt.
35:04
Because I believe if, if there are people out there also
35:08
listening that generally want to improve their body, you know, as
35:14
I mean, we, let's face it, we just the way we do every
35:17
anything is the way we do everything.
35:20
So, you know, this is, this is really about, you know, the
35:26
mindset and expanding it and, and being in that frequency.
35:30
But can you share that story of what happened to you when you
35:34
looked in the mirror and then what you discovered?
35:39
Mm hmm. Sure.
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Well after I was raped I started to gain weight.
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I was. I just wanted to become
35:48
invisible because everything that happened was by different
35:52
random men and my body gained weight to protect myself and men
36:00
left me alone. So for the longest time, I was
36:04
being overweight and tried one diet after another, and all of
36:08
them failed. And one day I looked in the
36:13
mirror and I tried to imagine myself having the body I used to
36:18
have when I went through all those issues, all those traumas,
36:24
and I realized I was terrified. I was terrified of being thin
36:28
because I was afraid that all of this would just start all over
36:31
again. So that made me understand that
36:35
there was something I needed to heal first in order to feel safe
36:39
to lose weight. And as I was going on a journey
36:44
of working through that, so chipping away at the trauma and
36:48
the fear of being thin, the self love came out and that was the
36:53
next aha moment for me is that self love is the foundation of
36:56
everything. So when you have, when you
36:59
completely love yourself, you will not allow someone else to
37:04
abuse you. When you love yourself
37:06
unconditionally, your courage comes back, your conviction,
37:13
your confidence, it's all within you.
37:18
It's just buried underneath the trauma.
37:19
And the more you heal, the more just comes up automatically.
37:23
So when there used to be a time where I was walking somewhere,
37:27
head down, don't look at me. I'm now walking straight back,
37:32
looking straight ahead and I have a stride that is full of
37:35
confidence. But it's natural.
37:37
It came back because I healed. And you know that healing like
37:44
you know, people would listen to this and I know what I'm almost
37:50
hearing some of your clients out there that are praying for your
37:54
service, actually asking the question, what did she do?
37:59
What did she do to recover from that?
38:03
Because, you know, the fact that you went through a violation of
38:09
your body and like, I just want to kind of bring forth the fact
38:16
that it doesn't have to be something that happens to you in
38:21
your 20s either. Because I've heard of people who
38:25
have gained weight and been carrying extra weight and diets
38:31
haven't worked. Fads haven't worked.
38:33
And then we discovered that it was the 8 year old that was
38:38
protecting themselves from being molested by an uncle or it was
38:44
something that they had had deep in the recess of their
38:48
subconscious mind to actually do that.
38:52
And while people are doing all these diets, I think you, you
38:55
might miss the magic in this that you're, you just naturally
39:00
expand upon. But when a person finds out what
39:06
the reason is, like you did when you looked at yourself in the
39:10
mirror and you suddenly became terrified because of the fact
39:15
that, Oh my gosh, you know, that would mean that I feel like
39:19
there's going to be a lot of people that wake up and they may
39:22
learn from listening to this, having heard what you've said
39:28
that oh, so that's what's, so there's a reason for this.
39:32
There's a reason for my addiction.
39:34
There's a reason for my body. So I can hear those voices out
39:40
there, though, from your dream clients that are asking the
39:43
question, what do I do to get over something like that?
39:49
Because that physical violation. So can we can we just kind of go
39:54
a little bit into that? Sure.
39:57
Well, when it comes to trauma, there's three phases.
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There's the victim phaser stage and then there's the survivor
40:05
stage and the thriver stage. So when something traumatic has
40:09
just happened, you're in the victim stage.
40:11
So you're trying to process what happened, you're trying to make
40:15
sense of it and usually come to the conclusion it has to be
40:18
something you did because there's no other reason why
40:21
someone would do something like this.
40:24
And once you move through the victim stage, you get to the
40:27
survivor stage, which means you have gained a little distance
40:32
and you can look at your trauma from a more distant perspective
40:36
and you can see it was not your fault they chose to do this.
40:41
And then you get angry. You get so angry at everything
40:44
and everyone. You get angry at them.
40:46
You get angry at yourself for holding on to this.
40:49
You're frustrated with yourself. You're punishing yourself for A,
40:53
you're holding on to that and not letting it go.
40:55
And B, why did you let this happen?
40:58
So you're still angry at yourself, but you're more
41:03
distant. The problem with the anger
41:05
stage, it can last your whole life.
41:07
So many people are so angry because they don't understand
41:11
that the anger. Yes, it's important in your
41:14
healing journey. It helps the distance, but it's
41:18
also a mask. Anger is a mask for pain.
41:22
It's easier to be angry than to actually feel what you're really
41:25
feeling. So once you get through the
41:28
anger and go deeper and look at what's really going on and you
41:31
see the hurt, then you're ready to heal because then you
41:35
understand the pain. And then when you get into the
41:40
thriver stage, the trauma is in your way.
41:44
You're frustrated, you want it gone.
41:47
And that's usually when my clients find me.
41:50
They just want it gone. They're ready.
41:52
They're so ready. They want to do whatever it
41:54
takes and that's the best time to heal because before you may
41:59
go seek therapy and think the therapist is pulling the trauma
42:04
out of you, but that's not how it works.
42:07
You have to let it go. I can't pull anything out you're
42:11
not willing to let go. Oh wow.
42:13
Is that why I'm feeling so free? I mean, I just want to bring
42:18
some conscious competency here, but you talked about because I
42:22
think it's very important for people to know that if they're
42:25
going to come into your portal and your space and experience
42:30
your beautiful divine work from my own self, just just giving
42:36
that snippet of what I've done. I feel such a sense of freedom.
42:42
However, you also said that you did some healing on me.
42:47
Yes, and I didn't even know. So can we talk a little bit
42:50
about that? Because I can tell you right now
42:53
and for everyone out there listening, I do feel very set
42:57
free very much indeed. So please explain.
43:03
Well, when I'm in a session with my clients, I always use trauma
43:07
Reiki, which I develop. I'm going to start teaching
43:10
soon. It's basically when you are
43:13
talking about issues, we talk about things that trigger you.
43:17
So and the trigger that comes up comes up with a lot of energy.
43:22
And it is the energy that makes this trigger so intense.
43:24
It's not the memory itself, it's the energy that's attached to
43:27
it. So as we talk about the issue
43:30
and you get your aha moments, with every aha moment, more
43:32
energy is coming up because suddenly something makes sense.
43:35
So something that was frustrating you is coming up and
43:38
I just pull out the energy and then it's gone.
43:40
So it doesn't bother you that much anymore.
43:44
You have the aha moment. You're already working on
43:46
changing it and adjusting. Let's say you're talking with
43:49
the doctors like how you're going to approach them.
43:51
You probably already think about that, making the plan of how to
43:55
do it differently because now you have the freedom because
43:59
you're not held back by that trigger and by those limiting
44:01
reliefs attached to it, because I'm pulling out the energy
44:05
that's coming up with it. And, and you know, I'm sure a
44:09
lot of people want to know more about these trigger things,
44:13
right? So could it be that I, you know,
44:19
like I, I talk about pain to power, story to glory.
44:23
This is what the genius zone is all about because there's always
44:26
going to be a back story. So every divine person that
44:30
comes on this show has this story and it's that story that
44:34
connects with their clients and they go, Oh my gosh, how did
44:38
they how did they heal from that?
44:40
And that's what makes them want to get in contact, right?
44:44
And I'm just kind of wondering to myself whether, you know,
44:47
even though I do believe that it is a case of, you know, the fact
44:54
that those triggers were there and they they may have been a
44:59
hindrance and they may have caused a bit of grief, if you
45:03
will, the fact that somehow, or rather they were healed.
45:08
And now I know why. But now I'm kind of in that mode
45:13
of asking the question, Do you feel that it's come from
45:16
unresolved trauma from my past where perhaps like I had a
45:22
couple of my very close loved ones who had accidents, who were
45:27
hospitalized, who were in these situations where I know I felt a
45:33
lot of pain. Do you think it came from that?
45:37
It's very possible that these are connected if they're right
45:40
on the same trigger, because the trigger is something that is.
45:44
The trigger is a memory that has been within you for a long time.
45:48
So it's basically, if the emotion in this moment in a
45:51
situation is the same, then yes, that would bring it back up.
45:55
Which is why sometimes if I work on deep trauma with my clients,
45:59
there's so many flashbacks coming up from different
46:01
moments, but they all have the same trigger.
46:06
So because I felt the same way in that moment.
46:09
And so the body is like what? The trigger is basically a
46:13
guiding light toward what needs healing.
46:16
If there was nothing to heal, a trigger wouldn't be there.
46:20
Wow, did you just hear what that Lady just said?
46:24
Now, do you have a trauma that is in your way?
46:28
Do you have a vision that you want to be better but you know
46:34
there's something stopping and blocking you?
46:37
Well, how would you like to be able to have an aha moment and a
46:42
healing session in as little as what are we here, 46 minutes?
46:48
We did this in probably just 40 minutes.
46:52
Well, go to the show notes and get in contact with this
46:56
beautiful lady because she is absolutely phenomenal.
47:02
Thank you, Sandra. You know, that that is, that is
47:05
so incredible. I love that.
47:07
And I, I mean, the, the, the triggers.
47:09
Yeah, it's, it's like the same energy.
47:11
Like you, you really specialize in energy and frequency.
47:16
And, and I, we didn't say this, but I, I feel that it needs to
47:20
be said. And that is that you are a
47:24
person who everything you touch turns to gold.
47:28
I'm just gonna put it out there like that because you're a
47:32
creator, you're a writer, and I mean, you only have to look at
47:37
your background. So you believe that the
47:40
environment. And I think this is how we're
47:42
going to sort of conclude the show.
47:45
And I'm going to ask you a question here, but I'm going to
47:49
point it towards this because it is your specialty.
47:52
And that is that I always love to say at the end of the show,
47:56
you know, if you could share something with a person that's
48:02
out there that's absolutely just praying to hear what you've got
48:06
to say. And it might be something you've
48:09
already said or it might be something that you get off the
48:12
show and you think, oh, Gee, I wished I hadn't said that.
48:16
I want to give you the opportunity to share that right
48:18
now. But I do want to kind of just
48:21
frame it a little bit with the fact that you are an energy
48:27
energy person that believes in the environment and our
48:32
environment that we live in having that high energy.
48:37
Would you like to give us some of your wisdom on that?
48:45
Sure. We.
48:48
Think that healing and energy is all about us, but that's just a
48:53
fraction of it. What's so important, for
48:56
example, is the energy of your home.
48:59
My home is high vibrational, which means I only have things
49:03
displayed that bring me joy. Anything that has no, that
49:09
doesn't give me a, a good vibe or that I don't really care
49:12
about is going whether it was a gift or something I bought and I
49:17
outgrew it because a lot of people that hang on to gifts
49:22
because I think they have to. But if it's takes on dust in a
49:27
cupboard somewhere, it's not bringing you joy.
49:29
It's becoming an annoyance because you say you could use
49:32
that space for something else, but you have to keep it.
49:36
So see it as you donate it and someone else will be thrilled to
49:40
have that so that it has new energy and you it's fulfilled
49:43
this purpose. So high reparation home is so
49:46
important so you can heal. The same with your
49:49
relationships. You will meet two people in your
49:53
life, those that have already healed and will pull you up to
49:57
their level like I do. Or you will meet someone who has
50:00
not yet healed and will drag you down to there so they feel more
50:03
comfortable in the space they're at.
50:06
So those two kind of people you will meet and you need to
50:09
differentiate, you need to understand what they do.
50:12
So if someone makes you feel bad and comfortable or make you feel
50:15
guilty for whatever reason, feels shameful because they just
50:20
like to do that or they feel better when they can drag you
50:22
down, they're not your friends. They're like, it sounds harsh,
50:28
but they're like parasites because they choose not to do
50:33
their healing. If they would, they could be at
50:36
your level and rise with you, but they choose not to.
50:39
So as you rise, they will fall away and then you will meet more
50:43
people who are at your level and then you will more people who
50:47
are even higher than you and help you to the next level of
50:50
your being. So it's all about your
50:52
surroundings and your trauma is just one aspect of it.
50:58
Wow that's that's so good. I love that you have just
51:02
brought so much. I could just go on for ages and
51:05
ages and we've absolutely exhausted what we say.
51:09
It keeps people's attention span right there here and now.
51:14
I just want to remind everyone, please go to the show notes.
51:17
We have all Sandra's contact details there.
51:21
You know, it might be just a click of the button away and
51:24
your life can change like that because energy is everything.
51:29
Sandra, I just want to thank you so very much for coming on the
51:32
show and just for what you've done for me.
51:36
It's it's absolutely, I can say hand on heart, I my energy has
51:42
shifted for the better in that short time that I spoke to you.
51:47
So thank you so much. It's my pleasure.
51:50
I'm so glad in work it helped.