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Mental Health Holiday The New Album From David Curtis And Bowling For Dollars · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: Enjoy your exploration. Hell on good morning everybody. How's everybody doing?
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  Speaker 2: Doing excellent?
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  Speaker 1: How are you David? My god, listen to that voice.
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  Speaker 1: Holy crap, dude, why aren't you in radio or broadcasting?
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  Speaker 2: Well? Here I am today, really.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. I'll tell you what. What's so interesting
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  Speaker 1: about being getting the opportunity to be so blessed to
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  Speaker 1: be with you today is that I was just off
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  Speaker 1: an interview with a gentleman by the name of Robert Margolov.
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  Speaker 1: He's the guy that really brought the synthesizer forward, and
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  Speaker 1: he talked about music, about bouncing and people feeling good
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  Speaker 1: and how today's music is effective. And I went, I
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  Speaker 1: hope to God one day that David Curtis will get
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  Speaker 1: to talk to this guy because the two of you
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  Speaker 1: are on the same frickin' page.
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  Speaker 2: Really awesome, and ID love to do that.
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  Speaker 1: It just blows me away how the world of music
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  Speaker 1: is so small yet it looks so big.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, absolutely correct.
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  Speaker 1: How is it that you're able to put this together?
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  Speaker 1: Because I mean, I mean, we live in an age where,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, AI technology is taking over everything and
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  Speaker 1: people want a thirty second song. But yet when I
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  Speaker 1: listen to a song like Incomplete, I'm sitting there begging myself,
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  Speaker 1: please please find out where this band is live. I
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  Speaker 1: want to be in that crowd going freaking nuts when
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  Speaker 1: they go into this song.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is it really stemmed kind of to
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  Speaker 3: tell end of the pandemic, a lot of file sharing.
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  Speaker 3: My producer helped co write some of these, some of
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  Speaker 3: these songs with me, and it was he did all
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  Speaker 3: the synth work and my drum my drummer actually uh
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  Speaker 3: played drums and bass on it.
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  Speaker 2: He lives in Akron, Ohio.
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  Speaker 3: Now, there was a guest performer on that song, Jared
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  Speaker 3: of headpe what. They were one of my favorite childhood bands,
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  Speaker 3: and they're actually going to be in Cleveland, h this
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  Speaker 3: coming Saturday, So I'm really excited, uh to be there.
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  Speaker 1: Is it Is it fun being a student as well
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  Speaker 1: as a leader of modern day music as well, because
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  Speaker 1: I mean you get to play both roles at the
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  Speaker 1: same time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot of people are scared of
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  Speaker 3: you know AI, but you know, it's also a great
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  Speaker 3: tool that can help you, uh more efficiently, get more efficient,
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  Speaker 3: and it really expedites the whole process.
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  Speaker 2: I mean even the artwork on the album. Really. It
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  Speaker 2: also saved me a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: But you're spot on and everything that I've done with research,
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly what it's supposed to be doing. It's supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be the seed, it's supposed to be the idea starter.
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  Speaker 1: It's supposed to be and it's like, well, it's doing
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  Speaker 1: everything that it's supposed to do. It's not supposed to
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  Speaker 1: make the decision for you. You just have to know
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  Speaker 1: where you're going to go as the creative person.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, It's supposed to be a guide.
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  Speaker 1: So true. Now when you put a project like this together,
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  Speaker 1: the Mental Health Holiday, I mean It's like, this is
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  Speaker 1: the kind of stuff where where people are going to
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  Speaker 1: levitate to it because you happen to pick a title
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  Speaker 1: here of something that people are going to remember. What
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  Speaker 1: went into the thought of this entire project.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's a very serious topic.
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  Speaker 3: It was actually about my mother who overdosed on lithium
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  Speaker 3: which was prescribed to her. It was basically medical malpractice.
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  Speaker 3: She went in a coma. I was in London and
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  Speaker 3: flew home. I got call for my father. I was
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  Speaker 3: two days into my two week European trip and and
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  Speaker 3: then she called Turkey. Wasn't on anything for six months,
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  Speaker 3: and that caused a whole new.
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  Speaker 2: Strain of issues. So that's that's pretty much what this
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  Speaker 2: album is about.
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  Speaker 3: It's about addiction, going through recovery and then relapsing, which
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  Speaker 3: relapse is what the song Complete is about, which is
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  Speaker 3: the last track on the album.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, because right away I was going to I Heard
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  Speaker 1: all Over because of the layered vocals and the chanting
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  Speaker 1: in the background, and I thought, oh, he's going to
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  Speaker 1: give me a much deeper story than my interpretation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I Heard all Over was really you know
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  Speaker 3: about Withdraws.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know, and you know what,
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  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of people that are going
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  Speaker 1: to tap into that because they're going to say he's
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  Speaker 1: either lived it or he's done something because he's too
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  Speaker 1: close to the reality of it all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, it's very person and all, and
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  Speaker 3: it's not so much me, you know, it's really so
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  Speaker 3: many Almost everybody knows a loved one that's gone through
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  Speaker 3: something similar to this.
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  Speaker 2: A loved one or a friend. Family.
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  Speaker 1: Now, when you're so transparent with your music and stuff
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  Speaker 1: and hearing you share the stories of incomplete as well
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  Speaker 1: as I heard all over, now, I've got to ask
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  Speaker 1: the question when the songs arrive with you, in other words,
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  Speaker 1: when you're starting to receive everything in are you going
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  Speaker 1: to preserve it or are you going to use it
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  Speaker 1: in that moment? If you know what I mean. Because
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  Speaker 1: so many times people say, well, you know that guitar
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  Speaker 1: riff has been with me for seventeen years. Really, it
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  Speaker 1: took seventeen years to use it. So so you are
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  Speaker 1: you preserving it or are you in the mode of
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  Speaker 1: using it right away?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Using it right away? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I
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  Speaker 2: had nothing to hold back, nothing to hide.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you can tell that one just well you can
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  Speaker 1: tell that just by the lyrics that you have nothing
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  Speaker 1: to hide, because I mean, my god, I mean the
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  Speaker 1: language in itself is so up to date with where
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  Speaker 1: we stay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I try to make it as
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  Speaker 3: relevant as possible. I mean, we lose so many people
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  Speaker 3: to fentanyl and all these other addictions, and depression and
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  Speaker 3: anxiety is on a is an all time high, and
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  Speaker 3: I do blame a lot of it on social media.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the it brings a lot of good, but
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  Speaker 3: it also comes.
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  Speaker 2: With a lot of bad too.
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  Speaker 1: Well, was it therapeutic for you? Because I mean outside
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  Speaker 1: here when we're when we're picking it up through the speakers,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like we're not leaving your moment because
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  Speaker 1: we're going to get our own journey through the songs.
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  Speaker 1: And and how how do you react when someone says, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you wrote this song because this,
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  Speaker 1: this and this happened because I received this music. And
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, that's not where it came from. But
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  Speaker 1: but do you open up or do you just say
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's it's obviously an honor and a privilege,
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  Speaker 3: and I make sure to thank them for that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's up for interpretation.
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  Speaker 2: Music is subjective, and you know, you could.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of a lot of artists
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  Speaker 3: that never even share their lyrics, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm not one of those. I'm very transparent that
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  Speaker 2: they want to ask me what it's about.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell them, but I'll leave it alone because if
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  Speaker 3: it impacts them in a positive way, I'll let them
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  Speaker 3: just kind of let a guide them the.
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  Speaker 2: Way it's supposed to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. When you do a song called I Surrender inside
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  Speaker 1: my mind, and I guess it's the child inside. I
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  Speaker 1: envisioned that you were outside staring into the sky and
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  Speaker 1: all of this came together. Either either the rhythm of
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  Speaker 1: the song or a lyric came to you, but you
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  Speaker 1: were definitely reading the sky. I'm way off base, aren't I.
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  Speaker 2: It's the song's kind of meant to be a prayer.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I see, I did.
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  Speaker 3: Think almost Dan, Yeah, it's meant to be a prayer.
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  Speaker 3: It's like sitting in church or a meeting surrendering.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you admitting, you know, admitting emitting your faults.
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  Speaker 1: Well, see you do it very well. And now I
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  Speaker 1: happen to call it hidden speak. Is there a certain
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  Speaker 1: thing that you call it when when you're able to
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  Speaker 1: take something so close and so personal and then make
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  Speaker 1: it more universal. Do you have a language for that
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  Speaker 1: or a name for it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Music, if you want to, If you want to know
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  Speaker 3: who I am, just listen to my songs. You know,
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  Speaker 3: that's the most transparent eye can be.
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  Speaker 1: That is so funny because I usually go, you need
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  Speaker 1: to know who I am, just google me, Just google me. Well,
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  Speaker 1: at least you can say, go listen to my song.
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  Speaker 1: That's at least something that's tangible I can put my
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  Speaker 1: hands on. Dude, Please do not move. There's more with
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  Speaker 1: David Curtis and Bowling for Dollars coming up next Bullying
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  Speaker 1: for Dollars, Mental Health Holiday. We are back with singer
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  Speaker 1: songwriter David Curtis. How tough is it for you to
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  Speaker 1: go into the studio because I've been there with just
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  Speaker 1: the engineer or where I walk into that engineer room
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  Speaker 1: and it's and the only two people in the whole
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  Speaker 1: fricking place because it's cold as hell, you and that engineer.
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  Speaker 1: So how because I mean it's I mean, how do
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  Speaker 1: you stay so personal and keep your stuff together?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'd love the entire process. Yes, creation process,
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  Speaker 3: the creation process of it, writing the music, and the
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  Speaker 3: most fun is bringing it to life and creating those
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  Speaker 3: special moments and just getting into that mindset when you're
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  Speaker 3: in that studio, because once you capture it, that's that
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  Speaker 3: session is what everyone's going to hear forever.
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  Speaker 2: I kinda I like it blacked out. I like it loud,
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  Speaker 2: and to be honest.
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  Speaker 3: Even to loosen up, I'll maybe do a couple of
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  Speaker 3: shots of whiskey.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good for you.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm not so I'm not nervous, but uh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean I have no problem getting to that zone
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  Speaker 3: because you know, this is actually my sixth album, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty used to getting there. I say, my freshman record,
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  Speaker 3: I've come a long way since.
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  Speaker 2: Then.
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  Speaker 1: Well, see, that's what it's all about. I thought. I
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  Speaker 1: thought that album itself was supposed to be the test around,
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  Speaker 1: the one where you are supposed to grow a little
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  Speaker 1: bit and you've got to leave the judgment in your
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  Speaker 1: back pocket, don't. You can take it with you, but
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  Speaker 1: don't bring it out and put it in your front pocket.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, lonely this man in the world, Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: you on that microphone. There is so much emotion, but
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, the listener is gonna go, I
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  Speaker 1: felt something, I'm moved, I'm empowered. I mean you really
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  Speaker 1: bring it, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much that that could be my
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  Speaker 3: favorite song maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well you can feel it.
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  Speaker 2: You can.
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  Speaker 1: You can definitely feel that you threw yourself into that thing. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine when that microphone, when he
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  Speaker 1: when he reached up there, and when everything was over,
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  Speaker 1: you shut off the mic and you look right up
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  Speaker 1: at the engineer and and it's as I mean, that
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  Speaker 1: had to have been one hell of a connection.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a very powerful moment for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, there was a there was a chemist, There was
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  Speaker 3: a chemistry with that song. And for me vocally, it
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  Speaker 3: was it's the easiest to sing, it's it's it's almost
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  Speaker 3: in my speaking range, speaking voice range.
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  Speaker 1: How do you know where to put it on the
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  Speaker 1: playlist when you go live, because that's one of those
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  Speaker 1: where it's got to it's got to be the right time,
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  Speaker 1: the right moment, and man, you'll snap their hearts right there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I knew heard all Oliver needed to be the
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  Speaker 3: first song, just the way it started, the way it started,
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  Speaker 3: and I knew and complete needed to be the last
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  Speaker 3: song because it's about relapse, and I just just playing
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  Speaker 3: them around with them, mixing them around, creating a playlist.
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  Speaker 3: It just seemed to flow the best that way, and
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  Speaker 3: they went into each other.
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  Speaker 2: They transitioned to each other the most smooth.
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  Speaker 3: The way, the way that they landed, I believe, and
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  Speaker 3: I told the best overall story.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's good that you went into it with a
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  Speaker 1: plan like that, because so many times when you're putting
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  Speaker 1: it on an album, hell you you don't know where
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  Speaker 1: you know which, what the angle is or anything like that,
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  Speaker 1: or why I'm going to make this one number, you know,
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  Speaker 1: number one versus the last one and things I mean,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean that's going to be the final mixer
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  Speaker 1: that's going to sit there and just go okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: this has done. It's done. Figure out the rest.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 3: That's something that in my mind I kind of play
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  Speaker 3: around with, and usually my first gut instinct is correct
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  Speaker 3: every time I create a track list.
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  Speaker 1: So do you call that stream thinking? Because I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when you say that you have to go by you,
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  Speaker 1: you trust it. I mean that means that you there's
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  Speaker 1: something going on around you that you that you've got
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  Speaker 1: to be able to take in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm just something something with the chemistry that
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  Speaker 3: I have with the music is I'm telling a story
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  Speaker 3: and each song is a chapter of little stories and
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  Speaker 3: it just makes sense in my own mind the sequence
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  Speaker 3: of that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I would love to know how you put this
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  Speaker 1: one together, and that is fix what's broken, because you
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  Speaker 1: know it's electronic, but at the same time, Jesus, it's
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  Speaker 1: got a rock edge to it. It's got something there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're traveling two different genres there, but
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  Speaker 1: you mix it so well.
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  Speaker 2: Oh thank you. Yeah, that one had a big nine
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  Speaker 2: inch nails.
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  Speaker 3: And it did get really Yeah, it did get pretty
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  Speaker 3: heavy there in the bridge section of that song.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that that that song is about.
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  Speaker 3: You know, my mother check herself into the to the
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  Speaker 3: psych word. When she was off all the Mets Cold
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  Speaker 3: Turkey for six months. She had to check herself in
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  Speaker 3: because she yeah, she became suicidal. It really messed with her.
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  Speaker 1: How can you do this? How can you go through
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  Speaker 1: the experience A and B and then turn it into
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  Speaker 1: a completely different experience with the music? I mean, is
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  Speaker 1: there a separator. Is there some sort of sensor? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how are you able to do this at all? Because
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  Speaker 1: there are people that are listening that are locked inside
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  Speaker 1: their bedrooms or offices that are musicians, but they don't
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  Speaker 1: know how to do what you do.
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  Speaker 2: It starts with the music.
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  Speaker 3: For me, pretty much every song on this album started
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  Speaker 3: out with a guitar riff okay, yeah, and then I
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  Speaker 3: will record that and then I'll start singing melody on
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  Speaker 3: top of it, and then i'll if once I land.
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  Speaker 2: The melodies, I like, I just do a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: scatting and recording. Then I will fill the vibe of.
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  Speaker 3: The song the way makes me feel, and then I
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  Speaker 3: will create the storyline and then I'll add the words
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  Speaker 3: to the syllables.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: When you're scatting like that, so that means you're sitting
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  Speaker 1: inside that that studio, pin in your hand, paper in
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  Speaker 1: front of you, and you're scratching crap out like you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't believe. I mean, did you save those notes at all?
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  Speaker 2: You believe it or not.
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  Speaker 3: I do it all on my phone and just go
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  Speaker 3: to my note on my iPhone, and that's.
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  Speaker 2: How I do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I see that it's I'm so afraid of losing
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  Speaker 1: my phone. I guess I'm that I'm so old fashioned
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  Speaker 1: that I still have to have the paper. I still
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  Speaker 1: have to have the pan. I gotta have the smell
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  Speaker 1: of something that said, yeah, I've been here.
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  Speaker 2: We see. These ideas will come.
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  Speaker 3: To me if I'm getting coffee at the coffee my airplane.
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  Speaker 3: So I can be any I can be at my
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  Speaker 3: day job, I can be doing anything random man, and
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  Speaker 3: an idea will come to me.
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  Speaker 2: And then one thing I know I always have on
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  Speaker 2: me is my phone.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk merch because I live here
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  Speaker 1: in Carolina, and I'm telling you this part of the
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  Speaker 1: world loves their merch because when I'm asking him where's
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  Speaker 1: this and that, they tell me, I mean it's miles away,
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  Speaker 1: and yet they know about you. People want merch. What
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  Speaker 1: are you doing.
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  Speaker 2: By the band is bowling for dollars? Yes, it's uh aie.
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  Speaker 3: It's a spin off of my David Curtis band project.
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  Speaker 3: If you go to jim Machine Records, I have all
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  Speaker 3: my merch on their T shirts, albums, vinyls, Jimmachine Records
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  Speaker 3: dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Are we going to team up with any broadcast entities
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  Speaker 1: or anything like that. And we're gonna have actual bowling
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  Speaker 1: tournaments like Michael Bolton used to do with the softball probably, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean that that sounds like so much fun
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  Speaker 1: where everybody gets together because people like to bawl. They
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  Speaker 1: may not do a league, but god dang, just a
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: v R game of bowling. Man, everybody's got goggles on
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  Speaker 1: with your music blasting through those speakers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe it or not. Bowling is my last name.
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  Speaker 2: Curtis is my middle name.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's so. How do you get born with such
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  Speaker 1: a cool name? Come on, now, come on, Bowling for
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: a last name. I grew up a bowling family. We
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  Speaker 1: didn't change our last name to Bowling. I'm so jealous
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  Speaker 1: of you, dude.
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  Speaker 2: That's funny.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And the whole point of this and the artwork
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  Speaker 3: is not I try to make light of a very
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  Speaker 3: serious album. Yeah, And that's why the artwork is kind
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  Speaker 3: of silly, and the name's kind of silly bowling for
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  Speaker 3: dollars because it's already heavy enough.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, but that's what I love about it is
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  Speaker 1: that you turned it into an art form and that
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  Speaker 1: and that's what I love about it. To me, I
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: always look at music and albums and things. Going into
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: a gallery and you're seeing it for the very first time,
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  Speaker 1: What is your first impression? And that's what attracted me
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  Speaker 1: to this is that it's got one hell of a
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  Speaker 1: first impression.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Wow so well, it says a lot about you man.
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  Speaker 1: It's that honesty with your music is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you, I appreciate it.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you,
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  Speaker 1: where you're playing, what you're going to build upon this,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: and how we can all grow forward forward together because
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: it is about supporting our favorite musicians right now and
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: people need to show up.
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  Speaker 3: Yep Bowling for dot com or Jimmachine Records dot com.
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  Speaker 3: I also have TikTok's Instagram and Facebook.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. You got to come back to this
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  Speaker 1: show anytime in the future. The door is always going
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  Speaker 1: to be open for you, man.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. It's been an honor and a privilege. I
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  Speaker 2: appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you sir, you as well.