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Ken Schrader In His Race Shop | Kenny Conversation #8 · Kenny Wallace Media

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your hot rod. Well this is, this is a big deal
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for me. Yeah, you're really happy, you
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have a show and you get to talk and people, listen, I know that
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you're really happy because it's already Startin.
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The Kenny conversation though, is the side of me where I shut
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up. Well that's how I want to see
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this. This isn't gonna last long.
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No, I love being around you out. You keep me entertained.
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Everybody always says to me wherever I go.
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They say what is Kenny Schrader? Doing course, I know what you're
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doing. A lot of your fans and know what
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you're doing. We see you on Facebook now which
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I appreciate you posting, just where we're going, what we did
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Kenny, it has given me a set of rules and I break them on
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Facebook. That's a great form.
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By the way, you told me to post what we just post where Don't
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one reason, right? Maybe a little bit of what
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happened, you know? Yeah, if we do one during the
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night, we don't usually. And then what we did after the
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races and we don't post post where we're going, or we don't
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put us scheduled until we are 100% sure that we are going,
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right? Okay, so you know, we have these
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inside conversations, you know, how to operate this new world
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and social media, but we both agree.
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It's good for the sport because we can call All audibles heart
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of it is, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, you know, everybody's
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opinion about everything but that's okay.
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Well, yeah, you know I was in my early days I was posting that I
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was going to the bathroom and that was a little too much.
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That was a little too much. That's, that's when you said,
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Kenny, what are you doing? I at least I didn't have to
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watch this. No, you were going and posting
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pictures of our food. What are you eating?
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Okay let's let's get going. I know all of you are always
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what's you know Kenny Schrader up to so it's Kenny conversation
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and we chose that because that way we can go anywhere.
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You know, it's not structured. What have you been doing?
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Well, place a mess right now because got home.
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Tuesday Morning, 4:00 in the morning from three basically a
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three-week trip. I say basically it was 1990s in
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the motor home. So my basically three weeks
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where we left and we went school bus racing and Toledo and went
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hold on school bus. Figure 8.
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You know. I don't like to interrupt the
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guess but you went school bus racing.
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Yeah, it's pretty big deal. It's not This was our third
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time. We did Toledo Speedway. 7 school
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buses. Doesn't sound like much their
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long, the other long and it's a figure eight, Ron drag your
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friend of mine. A good friend of mine, owns
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Toledo and own darken everything.
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When we first did it last year? I think first race last year,
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two years ago, Go. He told me said, no, Kenny.
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Don't, don't take this lightly. These buses have been taught in
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excessive 24. Mile an hour.
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Let me tell you what you can get hurt.
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When you run in 24 and you hit a stop bus, it's a big deal.
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Yeah. So, Ron Draeger, I've heard that
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name from you forever. I know that parka.
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Is a great series but he really to to our car along.
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When it needed it. Oh he, he was in charge ARCA
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while he's still in charge aren't good for a number of
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years. Mid-80s became President when
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Bob logo was get killed Talladega and Parkland.
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Oh that's right. Yeah and you know Ryan's family
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and started it and was always worked very closely with NASCAR
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and a couple years ago, NASCAR purchased ARCA.
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Hmm. And you know it's features
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pretty much secured there. Got national series.
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They got a nice series. The old Winston West?
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Yeah. And you know, push North, those
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are the NASCAR East and West now.
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I'll be damned. Yeah, but yeah, I just big fan
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of the series so he got you to come run, the school bus, you
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did. And I know you won big deal.
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It's hard to pass. Easier.
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It is hard. Yeah, one of the Toledo
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officials Jack konjac The Flipper jack-of-all-trades.
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Oh, The Flipper because he Turns a lot of muscles over.
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We had one on the side the other day which I thought school bus
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turn our side. No problem, right?
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All right, when you go in the driver side, it's no problem.
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Oh, you can't get out well, you know, because the doors up
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there. Yes.
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But when you go into other side it's a problem that's it, but a
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lot of fun, we've done it three times and it is heck was shelf.
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So that was the start of this 19 day trip.
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So you want to know Kenny Schrader's up to.
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So that's a start. Yeah, let me take it because
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it's gonna go through quickly. We did Toledo School Bus.
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Next day went flat rock or in stock.
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Car went up to Canada. Did play days for Federated
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Thursday. Did a play date Flamborough
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Speedway? Then we went to another
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Speedway. Did one Friday morning with a
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shriek and Speedway race Friday night that rained out, played a
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at Ash weekend. Saturday morning.
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Went back to Southern Ontario or a Saturday night.
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Did play that miravalle. Oh hi I'm Terry.
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O Sunday Morning Race at Maryville and Pete.
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Bicknell Center, skier car Monday, which was their holiday
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holiday for them and run, fifth. And then we went to Ransom,
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little New York Tuesday, Lorain County Speedway in Ohio,
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Wednesday kill care, Thursday, spent Friday and Saturday at
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Anderson. Indiana actually went over to
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the Brickyard watch every day. That's big snack fuel-injected
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day or Turbo day. Listen to 500 Sunday and And
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went to Lawrenceburg, Indiana, erase Monday and make it on
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Tuesday. So we're not really doing
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nothing yet, so that in a good way that, you know, makes me rub
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my temples. So that's what he's up to.
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So now this is this is a loaded and I feel like there's three
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stories about what you're doing. Let's start with this one years
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ago when I started Kenny Wallace racing.
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This this famous logo that I'm pointing to Kenny Schrader
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racing. It started years ago and you
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never stopped. Even when you were in the cups
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of your you, never stop? Kenny Schrader racing.
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Well, he's own cars. You know, I mean, we had a shop
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in in st. Louis.
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And we went to Charlotte and that back.
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Then we only started full-time and 85 around 28 weekends.
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So, we came home and well, we can come home, we still lived at
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home in st. Louis.
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Us and we had their cars and we were honoring weekends.
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And when we sad to move down south prominently are for a
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while. Yeah, it was long time.
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We went down there and build a shop and then we have parked
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cars. And push cars and trucks, and
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whatever Plus order cars and stuff.
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So we had our own cars forever. It's just now we've Got a few
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more of them were back here. And one, two, three, and I knows
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a lot more. one thing that I think is really
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awesome and one thing that A lot of people cannot say it.
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I don't know what the stats are, but Kenny Schrader.
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The person has won in the cup series, the Xfinity series, the
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truck series, but Kenny Schrader racing.
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If I have this right, you want in your own car in the Xfinity
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series had two older and you one in the truck series highlight is
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Saugus. That's pretty big deal, and it's
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kind of fun, you know, but back then it was so much different
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because, you know, we had our own stuff Ernie, had his own
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stuff, Dale, Jarrett has own stuff.
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See him. Senior had his own stuff DW had
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his own stuff, you know? And it was just, it was just
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stuff. It was little With a little
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stuff compared to something we had little or operations and
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then some of the full-time Bush guys that.
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But yeah, it was a lot of fun and we, you know, was able to
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the last year we were in article full time was in 17 with Boston
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Terrier and he was able to win championship course there and he
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did a phenomenal job. But you know it.
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Yeah there's a lot of guys that want an all three divisions.
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But we just know. I know, I know you're not done
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yet and that is on my list. We will get to that.
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I'm not done yet. You never stand you in when I
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you know, watch Kenny Schrader racing Incorporated.
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I know that you had a lot of drivers drive for you just to
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keep the ball rolling. You were busy racing yourself.
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My brother Mike lai's for you. He won Daytona.
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Of course. Everybody drops him pretty much
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one. So that means you had a really
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good operation and I had some really good people Timmy kahoot
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for a number of years and Donnie Richardson.
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So we just had a lot of really good people.
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Yeah. You can't do this.
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I mean, there's an old saying you.
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I'm not speaking for you, but I think it's pretty fair to say
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you and I everyone smile, we get roughed up.
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How did you make it the NASCAR? How do you stay racing?
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And, and I think, when I look at, he's Federated Auto Parts
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logos. If I get, I'm gonna brag on you,
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okay? You keep your sponsors longer
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than anybody in this sport. I mean, I've even looked at Cup
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teams as I set down. For this kind of conversation
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nobody Keeps Us on Sir longer than you.
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What is the key to keeping these sponsors so long and how long is
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Federated been with you? This her 24th season, 24 years
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during that time, we've done a lot of different things.
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You know, they've been on the Arctic, are we run expending
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races, we're in Truck Races, they were under car for a while
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then they weren't on the dirt car.
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I mean a lot. A lot of different things but
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they've been like throwing the dirt car for a number of years
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now and then we, you know, not doing the other stuff anymore.
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And now we do those playdates 2018 before the pandemic we did
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60 played a sick, the played a consists of going to a race
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track 20. Installers from across the
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country. Get their parts from Federated
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come out. We talked to him just a little
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bit. We sue them up and stick them in
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the car. Tell him, good luck and send
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them out and we send them out to time, so there can be a
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multi-car accident. Oh, boy.
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And then, when it come in, they say, man, so much fun.
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I need if I just had three or four more laps and I said, well,
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you look good climb in the right side of this thing and we go
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blast them around two-seater and then they think maybe they may
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be needed 10 or 12 laps, but it's a lot of fun.
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And we've we've done that, we've done those programs.
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All over, Canada, Oregon, Washington, California, Arizona,
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New Mexico, all through Texas, we've done it all over country.
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Did it 60 nights? And 19 knows almost like having
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a job. Yeah, we don't want to work.
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Yeah and so we're I think we've got we're settling between 3040
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days with that then. 60, 65 races, we not this year, but the
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last two years we've done. The SRX testing that was 10. 12
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date been over 100 days a year in carve the last couple days.
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Yeah, our years on, I want to Zone in on, listen we all have
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herbage and when I'm around Kenny he says played a played a
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not for us, not for you. So Can you just set it?
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But kind of wrap it up. Federated Auto Parts Rewards.
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They're people that sell a lot of Federated Auto Parts and they
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get to get dirty with Kenny was an old name.
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Yeah, that's what they've been calling.
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So, if they sell a lot of Federated Auto Parts, they get
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their be in your race with our it's it might be someone that
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sells a lot of parts, it might be someone that doesn't buy from
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him. That we would like the
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opportunity to sell them, some more parts, it might be somebody
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that, you know, doesn't buy all our parts it, you know, it's
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whatever. It's just strictly to generate
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business and reward the people that do business with.
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We don't have anything to do with who's in the cars, are not
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right. That that all from from home who
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actually is from the local people that who's the best for
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them to drive. And I think, the reason I chose
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this subject is because all of you all the time, ask me my kids
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114 championships. He's eight years old.
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How How do I make it to the big time?
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And this is a perfect example. And Kenny, I chose this subject
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because I wanted to show everybody You know, you have to
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listen there's an old saying if you're going to play you gotta
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pay and you and I have our own race teams and we have to get
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sponsorships and you are a perfect example of how to
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service your sponsor. So we can race is what we love
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to do. You.
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Yeah, pretty much that simple. We've been, we've been blessed
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with Federated. Have been great partner.
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I pretty much if they want to do something.
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Yeah, no problem. Let's do it.
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And they likewise have let me do preaching about what I wanted to
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do. So it's just it's been good.
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So this Falls underneath this category that I'm starting to
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get asked a lot, and right now, you're the leader.
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We used to have Hershel McGriff. We, we still have red farmer Why
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do you have to race? There was a book that Joy
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standards wrote on you. And now there's a another
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addendum to that book, but the original book was got to race
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and I got it right away. So when in life because we grew
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up in the same area, the saint you know within the same town I
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watched your travels and how you went about racing Open Wheel
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NASCAR. So why do you have to race?
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Do you love it? Oh yeah.
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Are you getting glassy-eyed right now?
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No glass still glassy eyes. Yeah.
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Driving home. But now I don't know what else
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to do. Yeah I mean I could I could
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maybe see some day No, I can't. I'm all right.
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I'm going to race. I'm a race until I can't get in
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the car. Our it's no fun.
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R. My guys can't get me in the car.
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Yeah, that's awesome, man. Charlie, that's, that's a sound
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bite. I'll get some younger guys,
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because I'm gonna get the damn car right now, who knows, you
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know, you're still waiting, you're running really good.
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We do the last four or five races have been great and we
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won. Couple of them ran good.
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And it's What's really nice? Now is, we have in our contract.
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We have a number of races that I need to run a year.
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Yeah, absolutely. But you know, you can always
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change that. Let me I still I keep that
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number high so I got to go right.
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You know I want to keep that number high but no I was just um
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don't know what else I do. I mean I was out here correlates
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morning and you know around 5:00 but my head refreshment.
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Yeah so it's pretty laid back but yeah, it's very little
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child. I recently You know, I told Don
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for Dome who is all of our hero and, you know, Walker Evans
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12-time, off-road truck Champion you.
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I've talked to you about this. You know, I have been in a I
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call it Purgatory in between heaven and hell.
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It's like, should I keep racing, shouldn't I keep racing you?
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And I have had conversations. I believe one of the reasons you
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keep racing is because, you know, when you talk about, if
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you didn't race, that's her, that's a great point.
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And when I, when I talked with Don Prudhomme and Don, I know
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you're not going to mind this because it's all good.
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Don told Me, how much he missed to drag racing.
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And he said, he said, Kenny to talking, to me, to Kenny's.
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He said, Kenny don't stop racing.
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So, two weeks ago, a week ago, whenever yeah, it was.
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When I'm going down the road, we're talking and you have told
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me what your decision was. Yes?
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What? I tell you, I thought I would
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felt great because yeah. All right.
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I love my cup. Job.
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Yeah, it's great. Yeah.
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You got to be in this car, this time.
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This time. This.
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When you got to be there, we got to do this together.
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Yeah. Nascar Cup Series.
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Yeah, but this sounds like you, if you get that car sitting
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there you got truck and trailer Hey, I'm going to take a
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two-week trip, Kim. And I are going to do this and
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the grandkids. This and they're busy in that
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and you don't race for a month. Yeah.
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So what you don't race for money?
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We don't have to. Yeah, why do ya?
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It's like doing stuff. You don't have to do.
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There is a there's also another side that I learned lately here.
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And, you know, I like philosophy the great Dick Trickle talked a
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little bit but the actor, Clint Eastwood and rape.
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Maybe you've heard about this. Don't let the old man in I feel
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that if we get a little stagnant, we can get.
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We're already old enough as it is, but we can get relief.
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Talking about you being old. You ain't happy by the way.
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Happy 60th birthday. Yeah, just a pump.
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You are, you really are stupid. So I think thing in our middle
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aged middle age. So I think you've explained to
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all of us once and for all why we race in, this is another
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conversation. Why is it in the way?
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I have something to talk about when we're drinking.
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Yeah, I love that. I love that very much.
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Why is it in life? I mean, I think it's a great, a
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great deal and I'm not going to take a 180 on you, but it's
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going to be pretty close in society.
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We pay in in other words. So we have social Security at
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the end of life, it just seems like I think the reason you and
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I get asked this question a lot is because there's this
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philosophy that it's 62, you stop.
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Yeah, and some people do, and that's awesome.
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Some people stay, very happy and very active, and very healthy,
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and some shrivel up that. And you know what?
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If they don't want to do anything, he wants it.
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That's fine. That's their, that's their
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decision. I just really like what I've
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always done and I don't want to quit doing it.
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Yeah, yeah. And I'm the same I so 30 seconds
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because of my therapy with Kenny Schrader Prudhomme, Walker
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Evans, a host of characters, I went ahead and I bought a new
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race car. So I'm Gonna Keep racing but
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like Kenny you gave me the best philosophy, you know.
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Race when I want to race, I don't gotta race every week.
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No, yeah, I wish I could be in that situation.
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I still got a race. Every you choose you have a lot.
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I've I've I've convinced everyone that I have to, so they
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think I do. I love that.
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So in this is something I do, you know, Kitty conversation.
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Has notes. Okay?
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And I did take them on Charlie models legs so I could read them
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and I was a little scared when you did that but well but I you
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know, Kenny conversation is real and it says right here and I
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think this plays right in okay, you have raced all over the
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America World. What are you missing?
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Never set out. I just wonder if you started
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keeping track of guy kept track when I started, I don't know why
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but I kept track down but their pubic.
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Yeah we've only got two states. We haven't raced him and they
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are Hawaii which is no problem. I can go to Hawaii pretty much
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any time. Yeah.
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Well kind of try to figure out over there.
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Get their tracks. I'll be darn.
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Yeah, and Rhode Island Rhode Island.
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Doesn't currently have a track that I'm aware of.
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Yeah, there is one. One in a guy's backyard but it's
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not a real but every now and then they run into a show their
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micro. Oh yeah,
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I mean we're not going to go full NASCAR right now.
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Now, and the Kenny conversation, but you I remember one time.
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Okay. First of all, you're a fan
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favorite, the fans voted you into the All-Star Race.
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The first year that they had to vote and you mentioned the me,
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under your breath. All the dirt fans voted me in do
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so you put your time in out there?
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Not that's not that's this is Union or anything but you put
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your time in out there and the fans loved you and you were
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voted into the All-Star Race. Yeah.
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Well you know I might have got a dozen votes and the next guy got
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10 or something but we don't know how many you know it was
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the first year they did it. They worked out.
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It was me. So I get about the way you
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answered that is the way you are.
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Everybody is the way they are. You we want to win, we want to
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do good but then when it happens we kind of want to maybe keep
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it, you know I want to ask Mark Mark my said, Mark are you hard
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on yourself and he goes yes, why do you choose to be?
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Why do you choose to play things down?
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So when we got to spend some time you spent more with him
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than I did, but we got to spend time with more.
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Yep. Yep.
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Which was cool at Boyd's Speedway in Chattanooga, which
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Closin up. Yeah.
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Another race. Track close.
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Yeah. First off, not all of them need
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to be open that one. Hmm, good point that one that's
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closing because it's got property value.
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Yeah, that's that's the new thing going on.
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Well, it's you going to make you can't what?
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You could have a good year at the racetrack on what you can
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make versus what you can, you know.
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Yeah, so far. But so what your why do you play
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yourself down? Well I yeah.
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When you do good I just don't stand too damn hard to get these
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aren't good. Yeah.
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But we're talking to Mark. And I told Marcus, you know,
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just one thing that always aggravated me about you.
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His and I just see it. And it just aggravated me at
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times. I wish you two had more fun.
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Yes, you did. You still want most all Races?
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He said, Kenny I would have won just many as I want.
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Like I just yeah so I took that Any of your trophies in here is
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never going to be. I'm not a bad day at the Trap.
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Yeah, I guess what? Guess what?
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You load the damn thing up and you go again because it's over
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and Doug. You can be miserable.
27:14
Now if you can't fix it, you gotta go home six damn car.
27:18
So I'm not going to make myself miserable over bad weekend.
27:21
So this is the audible that I'm going to call right now.
27:26
Most local Racers don't race for a living, it cost them money.
27:31
It ruins a lot of families. What is it about?
27:35
Especially dirt racing. And I have conversations with
27:39
some of my dear racing in general.
27:41
They live their life, so they work over here for a living but
27:44
they live their life through that car.
27:46
Is that competition? Is that what it does to us?
27:51
The dirt car seems to be more important to them than their
27:55
hundred thousand dollar a year, job is what I'm saying.
27:59
Yeah, if I ever get that figured out, I'll get back with you.
28:01
Okay everybody. Thanks a lot of what you have to
28:08
say. That's why I asked you that.
28:11
I mean I deal with. It's a disease, it's a disease,
28:14
the whole race. Something.
28:16
Yeah. And I'm going to get with the
28:17
pharmaceutical company. Yeah, I can get a pill that
28:23
will, you know, they get pills at do everything if they get
28:27
find, get a pill that makes you temporarily forget about racing.
28:31
Yeah, I have so much money. I'll have all brand new shit
28:35
out. Yeah, I also forgetting about
28:39
it. Yeah, you know.
28:42
We're going to take we're going to take up another 180 this
28:45
leads into where I want to go with with you coming back home
28:50
so you never stopped dirt racing.
28:54
However I never started it and I've been doing it for about 16
28:57
years now and I came home and I come home because I wanted to
29:01
come home and there's a lot. There's a lot of you could say
29:06
that you never left because you were racing but You're home now.
29:10
You're here in Diplomat Zuri basically st.
29:13
Louis Missouri. Why did you decide to leave
29:18
Charlotte North Carolina after how many years were you down
29:21
there? Very 35 out here, counting this
29:27
one and said, yeah, they're what it was.
29:34
When we went down, the plan was to come home me too.
29:39
Yeah, well, let down a point. Well, as a neat job, right?
29:42
I love that job. You know, there's ones I had
29:45
down there. but when it's over, It's exhausting.
29:52
No, no, it's not bad but when it's over it's like When that
29:59
job is over, then it'd be like. All right.
30:04
However, old I'm going to go to the couch.
30:08
No, I don't want to go to the couch and then you're not going
30:10
to Florida. So I knew when I was coming home
30:15
because the Midwest has some of the best dirt recent areas.
30:19
Yeah. You've, you've met so many
30:24
people. There is a Now, the less I'm
30:29
bragging on you, okay, you travel all over.
30:33
I really believe that you don't eat.
30:35
I know what you and I want our own race cars, but I really
30:38
believe you could race everyday driving somebody else's car.
30:41
There's a funny joke made by me, you know, we use each other's
30:47
last name Schrader, could go over to the Vatican.
30:50
The pope would be up there, in the pope would go.
30:53
Hey Schrader. You know, you got so many Any
30:58
friends, you're good at making friends, still driving.
31:02
We still drive. I mean, last year, we're in 69
31:08
and like 18 of them or in other people's cars, and we've done
31:13
that, some this year out in Arizona, in the bus, wasn't mine
31:20
and you have thrived good stock probably.
31:22
We're still we still do that. So yeah but Then I would have
31:28
shot people. Do you think Mars, right?
31:30
And there's there's so much to look at in the shop for so much
31:34
more to talk about and I feel like just like the book is wrote
31:38
on you gotta race. I you know we're going to have
31:41
to come back there's gonna be an addendum but there's still more
31:45
to go in the Kenny conversation and I do this to every driver
31:50
and by the way we're going to walk around a little bit.
31:52
So we want to save some time for that.
31:56
You. How do I say this, you?
32:01
You had a what I think is a great cup career but but I also
32:04
feel like you don't condemn anything or anybody.
32:07
So this one's going to rough you up a little bit and I do this to
32:10
every driver. Okay okay we're going to go
32:12
NASCAR right now. What is your opinion on?
32:17
NASCAR the state of NASCAR right now.
32:23
You got to say something? No, I'm 100%.
32:27
I think it's better than it's ever been sitting on the couch
32:33
or we're out here in the shop watching it.
32:37
I don't think the racing has ever been.
32:40
I think because of a lot of the younger drivers and friggin
32:47
social media, they run their Mouse.
32:51
Minister Salam or just break and don't have a clue about the real
32:55
world when you're in your 20s. Running a cup car.
33:03
It's not the real world, you know, I think NASCAR.
33:09
No matter what they do, everybody wants to complain.
33:13
I think they've done a lot of stuff, right?
33:17
Everything's not going to make everybody happy but it's okay.
33:21
It's not just our sport or any sport in our country.
33:25
You can't make anybody happy and they're instantly going to go
33:29
home and get on our computer and let everybody know that they can
33:34
that they're not happy about it. I just think our country is
33:38
really screwed up. And are just our social
33:42
thinking, is screwed up a lot of weight, but NASCAR I think is
33:49
doing great. Working around some of the stuff
33:55
they went back to Wilkesboro. Well, I wasn't.
33:57
I wasn't that aren't Wilkesboro bandwagon.
34:00
We didn't have good races. When we raced their years ago,
34:04
the All-Star Race, it race was not a phenomenal race.
34:08
NASCAR in, this is what people either don't know.
34:11
Or forget. NASCAR, never, never never said,
34:16
we're not going to Wilkesboro. No more. the family that owned
34:19
Wilkesboro said hey this is stupid that we do, all this
34:24
work, For two weekends a year Isola stimulus.
34:29
So they sold it along. People sold Rockingham to and
34:33
the new owners, moved erase to here and move to reach to hear
34:37
this car. Never said, we're not going
34:39
there. You know, but everybody's like a
34:42
scar, turn your back on the short track racing them.
34:45
No, that's not what happened, they sold.
34:48
Yeah, they just sold the business, you know.
34:52
But my sport my as far as what Nascar spoon and a lot of people
34:59
you know they quit a job and quit you know it was just time
35:05
but they quit his job and all of a sudden it's no more, it's no
35:10
good. We don't like this we don't like
35:11
that. Just screwing this up.
35:13
Well I don't think NASCAR is screwing up.
35:16
I think they're doing a great job but times are changing their
35:22
change. And along with them.
35:23
And, you know, every now and then something doesn't work out,
35:28
but I'm probably the biggest biggest supporter now, as I ever
35:34
have been, is it, the reason you're a big supporter NASCAR
35:38
right now is because they're getting roughed up so much now.
35:41
I feel bad for them. Well, I feel bad for him but
35:45
it's like There's some, some of the people arose from Up.
35:50
So what? Well I don't want to firm up.
35:52
What let them try, do the damn job.
35:55
Yeah, you know and some of the answers that you read or like
35:58
really really yeah, you know I think the new car.
36:05
Yeah. It's got some things you need to
36:07
work on our. They're constantly making
36:10
changes arm. We had 19 winners last year and
36:13
then Stenhouse goes on Wednesday Thomas, so that made it. 20
36:17
winners out of them out of what Seven points, races something.
36:23
So and first I want Daytona 500 first time. 85 finished 11th.
36:30
Five laps back. Well, now if I'm five seconds
36:34
back, I'm probably not going to be 11.
36:40
Tell me what, screw you help me. What screwed up the racing and
36:45
it's funny. Kenny because everybody says is,
36:47
you know, I listen to Sirius XM and chocolate Myers.
36:50
Who was the gas man? For the great day else in your
36:53
chocolate, says it best, you know, you know, I Kyle Petty
36:56
says, Man Chocolate says, listen, I gotta tell you and
37:00
he's right. I like the old joke was Cale
37:03
Yarborough had a five lap, leave at Dover.
37:06
He blew a motor. He come down radios,
37:09
interviewing him. Looks up, he's still leading the
37:11
race but the fans who Jody Ridley and his car.
37:18
So what and it's a societal shift, is what you.
37:22
I'll try that again. It is a societal shift, people
37:25
are screwed up nowadays, so they thought back then is better, but
37:29
now they're on top of each other.
37:30
So what is wrong people nowadays?
37:34
It is competitions, got tighter more people have access The same
37:39
stuff in that's 500. Oh that's like watching a short
37:43
track race. Oh my gosh that's like watching
37:45
this world that will Sprint cars on a quarter-mile.
37:48
I mean But now, it's screwed up. He's so happy.
37:57
Couple more questions about NASCAR.
37:58
Same questions. What is your opinion on the
38:01
next-gen car? Well, I've seen it at trade
38:06
shows. It doesn't make any difference.
38:15
This is the car boys, whether it's a winged sprint, car, our
38:21
Indy car or the next gen car are Street stocks, this is the car.
38:26
This is the rule book, go race, the damn things, right?
38:29
It doesn't make any difference. The obviously they put on a
38:34
they've had some, we've had some fantastic road races.
38:38
The ovals you know Grayson's been like that forever one time
38:42
they'll be a little better race than another race they put on a
38:45
good show in the dirt think that I like it.
38:48
Yeah I don't know about if all the cost came in exactly like we
38:54
thought it was going to and stuff but it's not like anything
38:58
else in the world is getting cheaper.
39:00
Yeah, yeah. Milks a lot, more expensive,
39:03
everything just goes up up. So you know what milk cost?
39:07
I don't have a clue. Can I do but I'd like more
39:12
expensive. I don't have a clue.
39:22
The last question about about NASCAR is as a sport does
39:30
evolve. And we look at how do we stop
39:34
these drivers from doing what they're doing?
39:38
Okay, we just watch Chase Elliott.
39:41
He can't race this week. Okay, what is your opinion on
39:45
Tech inspection fines penalties in the sport to this day?
39:51
Keep raised me. Keep raising keep raising and
39:54
penalties and fines and we'll just get stuff away from worry.
39:58
More about racing, that was the whole thing with the car.
40:02
The whole car is like just to take a lot of gray area out and
40:07
to cut down on what you have to spend learning development
40:13
stuff. So those those fines and stuff.
40:17
You don't see any of them really getting overturn much.
40:20
Right saying, hey, that really And wrong, you know, somebody's
40:25
doing something wrong and this is rule book.
40:28
Stop it, just keep finding them. Back in the day.
40:34
Well, first off its not back in the day, but it's like that was
40:37
racing. This supposed to be, it's
40:39
supposed to be who's most Innovative and all that.
40:42
Yeah. Guess what, if we played the
40:44
most Innovative game would be racing spaceships?
40:49
And we would have, we would have 15 cars out there owned by two
40:55
or three owners. Yeah, can't you can't do it.
40:59
They NASCAR looks to the future of thing and future isn't 24 25.
41:06
Yeah, you know. Yeah, I'm gets down the road
41:10
yet. So yes, I keep doing it and the
41:13
drivers, you know. Okay, I'm a huge He's Chase fan.
41:19
Yeah, who is it? Yeah, and Hendrick.
41:21
Motorsports. You know I mean that's you drove
41:23
for yeah. But that's, you know, Henry
41:26
cars.com as on every one of my car's Rick buddy, Chase, right?
41:34
Rarity? Yeah.
41:35
Okay. That's kind of a, that's a rough
41:38
deal, you know? So and they they were very
41:41
consistent that they send them out a week just like they did
41:46
earlier in the year. Right Bubba.
41:49
So it's got to do what you got to do.
41:52
But yes, you're good. It's NASCAR's game.
41:56
We play their game, right? We don't make fools, you know,
42:01
they Just got played by the rules and when people have this
42:07
philosophy and I agree, there's an old saying on the Kenny
42:11
Wallace show, this is the Kenny conversation but I was getting
42:14
all show saying can't be very damaged, but what's fun about
42:18
the Kenny Wallace show is I can be a little crazier so where I'm
42:21
going with this? Our old boss, our old boss, Andy
42:26
Petree taught us, this in, this is where it came from.
42:29
By God, we're going to be bullshit this right now.
42:32
Yeah. And Charlie Never edits that out
42:34
because it's a fun saying. So the D bullshit things, when
42:38
people thinks everything was better back in the day, it
42:41
wasn't If they think it was nicer pinion.
42:48
Yeah that's great. Let them think it.
42:50
But Petri and I couple years ago, spend the weekend here, And
43:02
it was a guy in one of the Suites have a couple drinks.
43:05
Great. That's why we're there.
43:08
And he's telling us how bad everything is op3.
43:11
Opening up a new beer and said, all right, tell me what Screwed
43:14
Up. Well, they're a system.
43:18
All right what? What is about it, you know?
43:21
Yeah. Well, you didn't really have
43:22
good, didn't like, the didn't like stages.
43:26
I said, okay, the stages are two yellow flags that we no one's
43:29
coming. Yeah.
43:30
And now because the stage is get race your ass off all day.
43:33
Yeah. So how screwed up is that?
43:35
Well yeah, okay, well I just like, you know, the
43:38
championship, that's okay. Stop.
43:43
So we go last race for guys to win it.
43:45
I don't know anything about other sports very little.
43:49
You win every football game all year old all year long.
43:52
You're gonna guys un first playoff game.
43:55
You go home right? Yeah.
43:57
So in our deal you had to be good to make it 16. 16 12.
44:03
He's got you got to be, they're gonna be, they're gonna be there
44:05
and then you got to be there that day so he didn't like
44:08
forever. I said, well, he said I used to
44:13
know all them, guys. I said, well now you're how old
44:15
and got how many kids and maybe you don't have time to know
44:17
about them. You know, he didn't like the
44:19
fact that there was only fours and Chevrolet's and Toyotas in
44:24
there weren't Georgian Mercury's and and Darby's Dodges and
44:30
Pontiacs and those are bills. I said, How's NASCAR?
44:34
Screw that up. Yeah, tell me how that happened.
44:37
So it turned out that, you know, maybe maybe he maybe it was
44:42
better and he thought it was I really thought about it.
44:45
People can people can just get diseased with negativity and you
44:50
and I we try to remind people, you know, we just can't off on
44:56
Memorial Day weekend and it rained a lot of Charlotte out
45:00
and everybody's complaining about me.
45:02
I my ticket. What am I supposed these
45:05
soldiers? Just jumped off these ships and
45:06
all got killed right away and your your race got rained out or
45:11
we're cool. So I agree with you 100% on the
45:15
way you think, and that's why we get along, but you say it's so
45:19
good Kenny and and thank you. So this is the part in Kenny
45:25
conversation. That were never able to do.
45:29
We're going to go walk around the fun side of Kenny Schrader
45:33
race in and Charlie. Do we have enough battery left
45:35
in our camera? Yes, we do.
45:36
We do can you got some really good stuff over here?
45:40
Can we walk over there? I'm following you Kenny it we
45:44
could have talked longer but it you wouldn't have watched it
45:48
all. We've had to break.
45:49
We'll come back. So let me follow you over to my
45:51
favorite part you. Well if I don't know your
45:54
favorite part. So I have file, you follow me.
45:59
Come over here Charlie as you Pan the Kenny Schrader wall, you
46:04
know, Kenny I see so much stuff here and I love this area.
46:09
First thing I want you to explain to us is all these jars
46:13
of dirt. We saw somebody that did that.
46:17
Now all these jars, we didn't start till September of 15.
46:23
So it's just tracks. We went to, we went to the Chili
46:26
Bowl has a little track, so we didn't take a lot of dirt.
46:29
So we just took a little but these are just places.
46:33
We've been since September 15. It goes continues on over there.
46:38
Oh my and if it's got a star on a jar, We want to feature their,
46:45
I'll be darn. Look at that.
46:47
And so Charlie these jars is keep on going all the way over
46:51
here. Check this out all the way over
46:56
here. Putting new lights, nice new
47:01
lights. So what made you come up with
47:05
that idea? We saw it.
47:07
We saw somebody did it. We have really liked it.
47:10
So you saw somebody what state was that in?
47:12
Where you saw that done, it was amazing.
47:15
It was in a magazine Speedway. Okay, let's go over here. so, We
47:24
are in st. Louis Missouri, the home of
47:26
Anheuser-Busch. And I know Milwaukee you have
47:28
Miller Brewing, this unit right here.
47:31
Yeah, it worked pretty good for crushing cans.
47:34
I don't so fresh. We we put a beer can in here.
47:38
It might not be a beer can. Yeah I might have been Coke
47:43
mixed with something good. Okay, and then we got ring the
47:47
bell when you It's too loud. Okay, so we also have pictures
48:02
where they see these Those was just stuff that was on the wall
48:08
there. Your first Nationwide race right
48:11
up there very top. Yeah.
48:14
Right. 19 1991. Yeah.
48:17
But can you you have some pictures in here that we we've
48:20
got, we've got to talk about. Where's my Dale Earnhardt, right
48:24
here? Yeah.
48:27
You can spend hours. Yeah, this is some really good
48:33
stuff. Look at this and then there's
48:37
our oh yeah, he's praying right now.
48:40
I did not know it at the time. You're like I'll pray that's
48:43
what preacher run Pegram and he's praying with me because he
48:48
tried to kill me or laugh, three or four left side at Pocono,
48:52
that Poconos it so that we got Trickle and Don Kleine, hold on,
48:56
we share a lot in common, the great Dick Trickle, pictures and
49:00
and Dandy Don Kleine. Yeah, check over there, client
49:04
over on the right. This is pretty picture down
49:07
here. Wow, this one here, Damian
49:10
Charlie zoom in on this incredible picture.
49:13
If you all talk about, you love the old days, name them all.
49:19
Wow. You know.
49:20
College Petty. Yeah, I like the fans to animal.
49:23
Yeah, kind of senior. Yeah, Mark Greene.
49:27
Oh baby. You get an idea of, he's got it
49:32
going on here and Kenny, listen up.
49:35
Let's, let's, let's end this in the right spot right here.
49:39
Is this okay? What car, what car is this?
49:45
He's got a look. This is our.
49:48
I am CA card stock or a friends or not.
49:53
This is our 60 to create car action, which when we go in a
49:58
couple weeks on a week-long deal, one, two, three, four,
50:03
five races of take this even though it's a three Link card as
50:08
a backup because it puts 604 on it.
50:13
So this is the part where we A end.
50:16
And Just just a reminder, he just got done winning an Oscar
50:21
Vega. That's not the good was the
50:23
school bus that school bus win. Okay?
50:26
Toledo, yeah. So, listen up here, want to
50:29
thank you all so much for tuning in to Kenny conversation or
50:33
first one out on the road. Kenny, I love you so much to
50:37
bike. And remember everybody, we said
50:39
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