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Barely Live #60 - In Through The Window · Barely Live

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  Hmm, Doug, are we live barely? Hey? I'm Ben. I'm
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  a huge fly fisherman. You know why they call it the Barely Live Podcast
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  because that's how I feel when I'm listening to it. We almost be drinking.
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  Oh would you like Budweiser? I would Indeorge y'all ever had a shot
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  top? What? Uh? I like Mexico? All right, mikey Yeah,
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  all right, Well, well we're running a different program here. Yeah.
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  I feel like we're always doing something a little different. You know,
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  why not just changed up a little bit. You gotta shake it up.
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  Yeah, Mike's getting the background music. We're alive from the Turtle Box Studios
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  here in Charleston, South Carolina. Charleston, South Carolina. Absolutely, and
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  I'm gonna turn down the old Collins to get that loose in the background.
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  It's very spring like here, and it is. It feels great. I
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  think it was like seventy five today. Oh man, it's glorious. I
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  had to kid out at the park just raising hell all love it. All
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  right. We're still recording, but still showing the battery thing, all right,
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  Just so everybody knows we Paul bought a tarantula. It's some sort of
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  podcasting that that's you know, we replaced we we used to have a I
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  don't know if you all ever saw pictures on the podcast, uh you know
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  Instagram stuff of all of our crazy equipment set up we had before. We
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  simplified that. But by simplifying it, we also complicated it. It seems
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  like it's a learning curve, learning curve here. So if this doesn't come
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  out right, it won't be the first episode we recorded without actually recording it.
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  But it's gonna well, got figured out, it's gonna sound a little
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  different, and we had human drops at the beginning. Yeah, exactly.
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  That's why you had Doug and Paul and then you had me over here barking
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  the turtle box trying to get the sound for the background because we couldn't figure
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  out how to get the music to sound right. It's a whole thing.
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  So I retired. I didn't retire it. I retired it for this use.
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  I retired the big like music board that's like a twelve input complicated wires
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  going everywhere thingy, which is perfect for music and live music. Yeah,
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  I got something that's made for podcasts that has six inputs. We normally have
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  four mics using and two extras for the computer and the phone. Why was
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  that part of what we figured out? Though? It is like, I
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  think it's a this thing is a new age deal and we're trying to run
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  old MP three's and stuff through it, and it's just not like in some
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  of our formatting. I don't think you might be onto something right there.
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  But it didn't like Spotify either, which you know that's I don't know how
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  they format their stuff. Yeah, so it's it's Spotify and NB three's MB
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  three's. Clearly something's not right because old Benny here sounds sounds great, which,
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  by the way, big shout out to Ben uh for you're gonna hear
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  him a lot on this show here. I discussed chatting with him, but
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  I think we've got enough sound drops that it'll basically be like we had an
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  interview with him, you know. Yeah, we're going twelve files or something.
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  You're gonna hear plenty of Ben today. Oh yeah. Which Ben's a
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  good friend of ours. If you don't know about Huge Fly Fishermen, go
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  to YouTube, go to Instagram whatever. He has an actual website as well
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  that you can subscribe to if you really like his stuff, but it is
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  huge fly fishermen dot Com. Our good friend Ben Sedek, Wait, he
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  wants money for what he does. Yeah, against what you do in the
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  fly fish industry. You're supposed to do it for free and live in your
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  car. But Ben has a free Ben has two kids and a wife that
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  expect to have roof over their heads. So, you know, and he's
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  found something he likes to do and actually ask people for money for. You
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  know, He's just he's an elitist fly fishing prick, and you know that's
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  what that comes down to. So, yeah, Doug has his glasses on
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  tonight. Yeah, well, hey man, I only need him every once
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  in a while. So we got Lusarah playing on the background. Yeah,
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  normally we have music piping through, but we're gonna try something new, something
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  different. Actually we did this a few times ago with the turtle box.
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  Yeah we you know, and speaking turtle box. Yeah, hey man,
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  hello turtle box, Hello Turtlebox. We also got some frigate reserve over here.
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  They're supposed to send us medeos, but it's my fault. I haven't
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  sent the email on what we want because I actually need something. Well,
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  then let's figure it out. I got, I got some scratched up I
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  could use it. Well, I really do, declin dos just what do
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  you all want? And I'm like okay, and here we are again a
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  month later. All right, Paul saying okay, all right, Paul,
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  let's let's do that. But yeah, so we thanks to all of our
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  friends that we just mentioned, the frigate reserve, wrong turtlebox, and the
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  but heo guys that that help us out so we can still do this thing.
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  I feel like we're missing someone. Are we missing someone in there in
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  the mix? I don't know. To be fair, none of them actually
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  gave us money, so we didn't. Where were you even mentioning friends that
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  we like, whose products that we want to talk about that we actually use.
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  That doesn't seem right. I Becca has the new turtle box, this
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  massy oak. Yeah, how do you find it? You're just throwing the
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  in the and are in the woods. Let's play a little game of find
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  the turtle box. I like my white one. It matches my boat.
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  That's what she wanted. Yeah, she was really the most was like a
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  special edition thing. I love it. Yeah, it's cool as hell.
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  I took. I love the hell out of all of all of a sudden,
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  I had Ray Welly Hubbard playing on YouTube here and I can't have that.
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  Also, well, uh, we were a little late on this,
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  this one. We were going to record a few weeks ago. Yeah,
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  it's just been Craig Cray. Well that's because you're a famous fly fish and
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  artist, Paul, and you got to be on TV shows and people keep
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  keep calling Paul up to go do things. And yeah, you know,
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  it's just are we still saying Craig Cray? That's still a thing. I
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  just like the way it sounds, Craig. I don't think any of us
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  should have ever used the term Craig Cray. You have a certain word that
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  you all love saying. Talking last night, I use it like a comma
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  no, Like yeah, you know, like you love a word because it's
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  it's so complicated and fun to say, what like fungible. That's a fun
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  way I do, and it has fun in it. It is fun to
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  use a big word appropriately moist At one, I'm trying to think if I
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  have like a and that was a really I like moist cake. I don't
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  know, man, I just like I do like to I like to throw
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  in some sorest words every once in a while, but you got to make
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  sure you using it right, because there's nothing worse than being kind of a
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  bad like always saying it not just because you sound smart, Like I love
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  saying the word narcissistic, but I hate the work I mean narcissistic. Well
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  likes he's such a narcissist. I like to so I have to write a
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  bunch of notes at work when I follow up on patients and stuff. You
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  got medical words, yeah, well, but like you know, generally speaking,
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  like if I were gonna tell a doc about you, I be like,
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  all right, his blood pressure's fine, his heart rate's fine, he's
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  whatever. But a fancier way to say that, A fancier way to say
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  your heart rate and your blood pressure and your your general uh cardiovaster system is
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  good instead of saying, yeah, his bloo pressure is normal, has got
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  this and that. The fancy way of saying that is he's hemodynamically stable,
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  like he We all know you're skinny and smart. Okay, that's one of
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  those things that smart. I like to throw those words in there, and
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  then like you know, and a it's a time saving for me because it
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  covers a whole lot of guy dgging basis, but b it does sound smart.
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  You know what word I hate to spell? And tight that Wednesday?
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  Oh my god, never seems right. Every time I have to say when
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  weddiness day, it looks wrong. It looks wrong all the time. February
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  is the same, grab berber grab Yeah. I have to say when wed
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  Day every time I spell it, otherwise I'll spell it wrong because it should
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  be Wednesday. And two what's you mean? You mean to two and two
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  like me too? Or do I have two? Or are you going to?
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  Those are three different two Georgia. Here's what I don't like about the
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  whole two and two things. Everyone knows what each one of them. And
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  when you start texting, Sarah will right back t o oh, I'm like,
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  you know what I mean? You got you married a grammar? What
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  about there and there? You mean they're there there or there? Yeah,
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  there's a lot of them. My thing is in a text. Again,
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  we know you're smart. My thing is in a text. You get it?
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  You know what I'm saying. I don't. I can't stand the people
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  that might write that. It feels like they need to correct themselves and send
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  another text and my phone goes. I was like, you didn't need to
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  do. My problem is I have big thumbs, and I my text sound
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  like that'd be a drop, Doug. I've got big thumbs. My text
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  sound like my text sound like I'm mentally retarded at a baseline, Like if
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  you were to just try to read my text the word here, I don't
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  think. I know you're a medical guy. Made it okay, but I'll
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  see him on staight. My thing about that, My thing about that is,
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  I feel like the R words should be allowed as long as you're not
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  using it for disabled individuals, right, like a derogatory manner. Doug is
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  a successful, upstanding citizen of the town. If I call him a retard,
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  there should be a problem with that. Everybody else does behind closed doors.
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  I mean, obviously you use it in a derogatory fashion towards people who
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  were actually disabled. Yeah, there's a problem there. I could see that
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  being negative. But yeah, I mean, yeah, maybe I'm wrong.
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  I don't know, no, but I had something I was going to bring
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  up. Now forgot what it's going to be. Spell it. Maybe I'm
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  exactly what you're talking about. You want to go silent for five seconds now,
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  awkward silence. I love that guy's jacket. You are a jacket guy.
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  Yeah, I know what I know a jackets. Do you want a
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  bomber jacket? I could see you rocking a bomber Yeah, I think you
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  would like jam a bomber jacks number eighty eight eighty leather bomber jacket. Oh
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  that was and the Republic brought that into the world. Well, but that
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  was because the top gun. Yeah yeah, that was like about Michael Jackson
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  had the jacket. Everyone all the jacket oh yeah, yeah, the patent
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  leather, that was that patent. Well then you had Eddie Murphy with the
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  whole patent leather and the glove. Yeah. I remember a dude in high
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  school. We had to have a lot of balls. Yeah for sure.
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  Okay, so I'm gonna tell this story, or it's a very short story.
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  Let's tell this anicdote about germs because it's our anecdote. Yeah, our
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  friend germs was just a fancy way of saying story. Uh yeah, that's
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  the thing. So anecdote is like a side hustle story you're bringing. An
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  anecdote is just an anecdote is a story that relates to a topic. So
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  like if we're having a topic and I tell you a little story that ties
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  into the topic. We do that a lot on here. Yeah, we
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  do a lot of anecdotes here. So some tea on the side. So
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  we're in the Bahamas. It's circa twenty eleven, give or take. We've
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  flown in with a crew guy. Yeah, since we're using big words.
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  So we were it's like Super Bowl weekend. We were hanging out. We're
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  at the sand Bar down on South by the way if you see this thing
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  turn off, Yeah, the Sandbar on South and we've been bone fishing and
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  stuff. And we went down and there was a karaoke night at the sand
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  bar. Now it's February in the Bahamas. There's nobody there. It's us
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  and like the people who work at the Shark Lab and the locals, that's
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  it. I turned around at some point and Germs, our friend is on
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  the bar moonwalking, and he had went out to the jeep and got a
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  glove. It was one of those fish gloves like the ones sun no,
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  no, like the big the big cot orange yeah, the orange, yeah,
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  the orange one with the grippies. And he was he was dancing to
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  Billy Jean like on top of the bar. Bartenders were loving, they were
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  all about it. It was pretty good. I gotta give him a little
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  credit. There was camera, yeah, well germs, camera guy. I'm
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  not a camera guy. And it was twenty eleven. You didn't have the
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  cell phone options that you had, like you had the flip phones with cameras,
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  disposable cameras carried all over the place. They're kind of back now.
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  Wait what they're kind of back now? Back films? So film is film
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  is coming back. Okay, there's a whole new generation these kids film developed.
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  Well you can so kids want audio cassette tapes. Really, it's kind
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  of like how fifteen years ago we wanted records again? Why yeah, and
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  they've grown up for the records. Records aren't that big of a deal to
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  these twenty year olds because the last twenty years, records have been a thing.
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  But audio tape they're looking, but they're looking for CDs. So they're
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  looking for CDs and they're looking for the tapes. Well, CDs, I
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  get, but I CDs also. You know why, It's because they want
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  something to hold, like they haven't had nothing exists in that they've lived their
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  whole music life on a computer and the music's just been in the air.
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  But now they have this thing. You mean, you had CDs with a
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  thing you get the same way we like records and so can you remember going
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  to a store though, when you bought an album or the tape or whatever.
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  Oh my, I I want to walk into a Walgreens or a CVS
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  with the roll of film, one of those cameras handed over and go,
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  can I get this developed in an hour? Remember those days? Remember the
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  days were you never knew in college who would friends stole your camera? In
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  the film You're getting back, what's on that? There was there was a
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  girl that we used to always go to her house. We'd always find our
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  cameras, go in the bathroom and take some brought down Minneapolitan shots we had.
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  We we were fishing in the Outer Banks one year and we went to
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  a party at that was held by a bunch of the kind of there was
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  like Tosh Brown was there and my guys talking to that thing. I'm in
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  it, I'm hitting yellow he is. Anyway, there was the point I
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  said that was there. They were bigger, there were there were industry.
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  We're gonna talk about the industry tonight. There were industry guys at this party
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  and we just happened to be there. And once again I'm picking on Germs
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  night there and Germs has a habit at least him know that he can defend
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  him. Yeah. So Germs has a has a bad habit of taking pictures
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  of a part of his anatomy all people's cameras when they leave him around.
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  Yeah, so we should. So we go into this room. So we
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  go. I've had it after eight years. So we so we go into
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  this room and they're you know, like I said, Tosh and all these
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  guys are there, and Tosh is a big photographer. So like, we
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  go into this room and there's a wall lined up with all these dudes cameras
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  that are just charging and getting ready for the next day because we're all there
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  for the Abbe Blitz, And like I look at it, like we look
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  at it. We look at it, and I look at Germs and Germs
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  looks at me. He goes, I was like you have to. He's
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  like, oh, God, watch the door. And so, like I
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  don't know, a couple hours later or maybe whatever, we're standing out front.
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  Carrie Via, You've always been his cockshot assistant. It's not a cock
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  shot. I didn't help him do it anyway. So we go outside.
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  We're standing around drinking whiskey and we're all telling stories about our day, and
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  Carrie goes, oh, I got a great picture for him today. I
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  want to show you. So he goes and gets his camera, comes back
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  out and he's standing in this big circle guys, and he's thumbing through the
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  DSLR. You know, he's like click click, click, clicking, and
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  he stops and he's like, look sideways at his camera for a second,
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  and then he just starts laughing, like you can't breathe. He just hands
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  his camera to somebody and they like, you got passed around, and then
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  everybody ran for their cameras, like I'm not leaving my camera sitting right on.
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  I mean the one time there's eight people huddled around and you're looking through
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  the camera. Have y'all seen the new commercial right now about some sort of
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  ed scenario where you're chefts a little crooked. It's all carrots. Have you
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  seen this carrot commercial? I have seen the commercial. It's unbelievable, Like
• 16:45
  it's all these carrots falling from the top of the screen, and most of
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  them are straight, and then some of them have the weird like forty five
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  degrees with crooked dicks. It's poorn crooked, not forty five degree. Just
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  it's like curve. It's there on a little ferve. It's little. I
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  don't know if over the top you were talking about dongs, I was not.
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  I said anatomy. I didn't say dicks. Y'all said dick. I
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  said anatomy. Okay, we'll get off the subject. Well, I mean
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  we could keep going. We really don't know. I really don't want to
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  be a urology carrots. It's so weird, you'll you're going to see it
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  one night and be like, that's what. So I'm mainly watching it because
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  we're watching Fargo, and it's really heavy on the Fargo on Hulu, the
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  old great, thank you. So if y'all want to watch it, does
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  anyone have a crooked dick off our? If you want to see some crooked
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  dick commercials, go watch Fargo. Now we do say restricted to adults on
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  the We disclaimed that, oh yeah, don't play this for your kids in
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  the car. I mean you obviously already turned it off at this point if
• 17:55
  you had it on but nobody but an adult can handle it, we should
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  definitely give a warning. Fast forward through minute twelve through thirteen and a half.
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  Dude with this is episode like what sixty? I mean at this point,
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  I'm just kidding. I think they I think they know we boatoks the
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  man's testicles on air at one point. Yeah, and we looked at him
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  just like, oh my god, they're so smooth. How proud would you
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  be if you got on some podcast site and there was a parental advisory slapped
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  on barely? Oh look at this guy. Okay, he's growing through That
• 18:26
  thing's definitely broken the soft landing. Hold on, stay just hold on,
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  give me, just give it to me, stay right there. Oh god,
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  Well, Tucker, Tucker has arrived. Instead of walking around to the
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  door we left up, uh, he decided to climb through the window.
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  So now we're happy to have a little sound check like we did earlier.
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  Should we take a break? We ain't quite got to the break. Yeah,
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  let's keep brolling. Let Tucker jump in down. Here's your mic volume
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  thing for you. So I brought this up to Doug earlier, and I've
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  kind of come to the conclusion that I can't stand it when I go to
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  like a bar or sports bar and all the beers are crafty and I p
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  a s Yeah, they have one option of a I beer. So you
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  want to go ahead and talking that thing? And yeah, I think that
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  sounds He came in about right right out again, soft and sultry. That
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  was nice. Hey, hey, we know who's got the good micro Hey
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  hey, Doug, can you can you do me a favorite? Can you
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  fucking leave some handsome for the rest of the christ Look, put your secretary
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  glasses on it. Get to get better. But it's hot. It's hot,
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  you know what, Look at sucker. Now go get stuck in the
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  window. You know, I got a little sets. So I work in
• 19:52
  a primarily dominated world, right, and my job I wander all over the
• 19:56
  hospital, and so I go see all the nurses. I'm like, hey,
• 20:00
  guys, y'all doing okay? Your patients okay, whatever. Well the
• 20:03
  other day I had two nurses in a row, like one almost like you
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  look like ship. I was like, what nice? Yeah, And then
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  the next one and then I got to like another desk letter like are you
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  feeling okay? I was like, I feel fine. This is my face
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  this is what I like. I don't feel like I look any different.
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  Yeah, I was like, I didn't try anything new today. I just
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  did my life And yeah did they did you ask for your DJ Mike?
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  No, I didn't ask for specifics. They just said I just generally didn't
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  look well. Okay, so like light beer? So am I wrong in
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  thinking that if ten guys showed up to the bar, eight of them actually
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  want light beer, and the two guys might want craft or I p A.
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  And one of those is pretending, yes, he wants to look cool,
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  to like be the wine or dancing Bear, dragon breath. But everything's
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  out weigh mountain, Like you can't go to home team anymore and get like
• 21:08
  a draft Miller, lighter bud Light. It's it's all this crap, crap.
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  Whatever happened to a bottle Budwiser, whatever happened to it, whatever happened
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  to fucking diesel and ice cold bottle red sticks? We used to call them
• 21:22
  red sticks diesels? What well, that's yellow jacket. I can't. I'm
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  just saying you can't drink more about two of them, But go, why
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  do they hit so much harder? And tell them that we're not standing for
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  it anymore. I missed, by the way, damn it. That's okay.
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  You didn't have to tell anyone that it sounded good. Sound But I
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  get totally get your point. I mean, I'm not a big I p
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  a fan or whatever, but can it be half and half? What's wrong
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  with half and a half? Right? But I mean, like, you
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  know, I like an amber like a ying like like that's good. And
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  it's a red stripe, Oh dude, that's good. What was the place
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  on shim Creek that used to have like the big creekside. It was creek
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  sized, and they had dollars. They had Monday night was burger not and
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  they had forty ounce red stripes, the big one like half price or something
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  like three three bucks or something like that, and then they had half No.
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  But but it came with a koozie that was called a big stubby.
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  Yeah, the big Stubby coozie came in creek there. All of that is
• 22:27
  turned out except for Reds. What's the one right across from Reds. It's
• 22:30
  still there though Water's edge. I don't I don't count that. That's that's
• 22:38
  fine. I still like to roll up there with my boat and I always
• 22:41
  eat at the cabana bar. I don't go inside, but like just roll
• 22:45
  up with the boat and neat at the cabana. Yeah. Still that's where
• 22:47
  it's at. I'm all right with that. What didn't that play? I
• 22:52
  don't know what you were trying to do there, but my volumes down.
• 22:56
  That's when he gets back. I hear Doug talk. Okay, Yeah,
• 23:02
  so we haven't talked about literally anything, Chucker. We just this is the
• 23:04
  intro segment and where we're still. We're twenty three minutes in and we've said
• 23:10
  nothing. Box wine over there doing it's about to happen. Really, I
• 23:15
  was going to do that, but he politely gave me a beer. Yeah,
• 23:18
  I told you I was trying to get the rid of these for their
• 23:19
  cowboys, so get the criminal little. I'm doing what I call mostly sober
• 23:23
  march, or you call it moist march, where basically I'm just not keeping
• 23:29
  any beer in my house or any liquor in my house, so that like
• 23:32
  I'll drink if I go out, like I'll have a beer or whatever dinner,
• 23:34
  or I'm having a wet year. But I just I'm just trying to
• 23:38
  reduce how much because the problem is like I don't drink too much per day,
• 23:42
  but if I keep beer around the house, I drink every day.
• 23:45
  And that's just a lot of inities for no reason kind of deal. It's
• 23:49
  like every one of these beers is a sandwich, you know, and it's
• 23:52
  like I wouldn't eat six sandwiches, but I'll drink six beers. Well,
• 23:56
  it's a lot easier to drink six beers. It should should taste okay,
• 24:03
  cool? Well anyway, all right, there's a have y'all been to the
• 24:07
  Woodruff on John's Island heard of it? It's a it's a restaurant and cocktail
• 24:12
  bar. They change up their cocktail menu every week and then they've got weekly
• 24:18
  specials for food and whatnot, as well as a seasonal menu. I like
• 24:25
  that, but it's like we don't go downtown anymore because we're just like where
• 24:30
  we're gonna go. Like it's I've never had anything that was disappointing there.
• 24:33
  It was fair prices, prices are reasonable. But it's got a good wine
• 24:37
  selection too. But they had this cocktail. It was a bourbon based with
• 24:44
  apricot brandy and like honey syrup and some other stuff in there. Oh,
• 24:51
  it was really like so we went to cocktail man. So we went my
• 24:57
  wife She's like, she like like wine, that's it. She likes wine,
• 25:00
  that's it. And so I let her taste it and she was like,
• 25:06
  let's go to the liquor store, like, let's go by. I
• 25:08
  was just like, oh, like what she was like, yeah, what's
• 25:11
  in it? And the bartender walks over and just I mean, we've been
• 25:15
  there a bunch. He's like, here's the recipe, Like, here's the
• 25:18
  thing for it. Next show, I'm gonna make us batch. Yes,
• 25:22
  I like that. I'm gonna I'm gonna share something like the most perfect little
• 25:30
  I don't think I've ever I don't think I've ever shared this particular tipet of
• 25:32
  information. But so Tucker, of course is always on my yearly keystrip.
• 25:37
  And one thing that Tucker does every afternoon. Now that we're in the Keys,
• 25:41
  now, we didn't do this in the glades, because we did it
• 25:42
  once in the glades we were glamping. Yeah, but that was when we
• 25:47
  had a house boat. It was a little different. But no, it
• 25:48
  was in the house bows when we were in the eco tense. That didn't
• 25:51
  really count. I don't even count that as one of our glades trips,
• 25:53
  like that was so plush it wouldn't didn't count. Still caught fish. We
• 25:56
  did catch fish, but that's not the point. So the point is Tucker
• 26:00
  every year and the y does the thing where he like, so we're all
• 26:03
  responsible for one night's dinner and whatnot, right, Tucker does a cocktail of
• 26:08
  the day every day, like so like fancy resorts, that's your job,
• 26:11
  Like you don't deal with dinner. You just does does steaks one not because
• 26:15
  that would be cool if he also what was it twenty eight days? You
• 26:18
  aged gorganzola? Mushrooms with a mushroom or a fun word, gorgonzola. It's
• 26:29
  just fancy blue cheese. Gorgonzola is like gorgonzos like German swish or blue cheese.
• 26:34
  Right, yeah, it's like blue cheese. More, it's like strong
• 26:38
  more blue cheese with a side of funk. Gross. It's good when you
• 26:42
  melt it down. Mushroom is anything. But my wife makes My wife makes
• 26:48
  a gorgonzola sauce we just referred to as cracks sauce. Very different. And
• 26:52
  when I was first dating her, the first meal she ever made me,
• 26:56
  she cooked a steak and she made a Gorgonzola crack sauce, which is yeah.
• 27:00
  And now we're married and got a baby, So I mean, you
• 27:03
  tell me, I think we'll do it. But Paul, you're coming right,
• 27:11
  Yeah, he's gonna come. Yeah, we're full You're full in,
• 27:15
  Like, so are you full in that week? Anyway? I was going
• 27:19
  to figure out what it sounds like, you're about eighty percent. No,
• 27:25
  I'm in. It's totally lining it lined up. Basically you invited me to.
• 27:30
  Yeah, Paul, you've got some projects you're working on, and we
• 27:33
  have a house and we're gonna be there, So Paul's gonna crash with us
• 27:37
  fishing maybe a little bit. I finally realized when I come here, I'm
• 27:41
  like, I was just in the keys for four days. I don't have
• 27:44
  any like really good photography and things to work with. So I figured I'm
• 27:48
  gonna go down there for five days and really concentrate and like make up like
• 27:52
  a list of shot lists like photographers do. Yeah, of like things I
• 27:56
  want, things I need because I don't fucking do them. I'll start fishing
• 28:00
  next you know, it's stay three and like I'll just do it all tomorrow
• 28:02
  and tomorrow comes you don't have the weather of the light whatever, and you
• 28:06
  have a sack of ship. That's what I'm doing that and you and the
• 28:08
  nice thing about with with us just all being around, there's three boats in
• 28:11
  your vicinity. One of us will come snatch you up once you're done doing
• 28:15
  your job, Like if you want to fish the afternoon, or you just
• 28:17
  want to know alright that good light, roll over to button Marrys, I'll
• 28:19
  pick you up and we'll get back out on the line or whatever. That's
• 28:23
  my plan is to mainly reference material, but a little fishing on the side
• 28:27
  of You need to let him be unsupervised, Marrys. There's no alcohol,
• 28:33
  well, I mean you beer hobby, Rob. I ain't nothing better than
• 28:41
  getting a little bit characters. I bet there's nothing better. That's the kind
• 28:45
  of place. So I want to take photos and kind of get cool stuff.
• 28:47
  Yeah, hanging out of Robbies for a little too long and then shooting
• 28:49
  the wheeled ditch on the way back south. I mean, I'm not saying
• 28:53
  I would have suggested it to people, but it is fun. I'm gonna
• 28:59
  take your word on it. Yeah it is. It is. Well what
• 29:03
  we do we do dowas cowboys, go Cowboys barely. I mean, I
• 29:08
  would love to talk about the Cowboys, but I'm a Panthers fan and this
• 29:11
  is not Let's maybe this segment. Now, we're gonna call We're gonna call
• 29:15
  Sam Bailey from scoff yep. Uh. He and some guys have kind of
• 29:19
  taken over and they they own scoff now and they're just we'll just talk about
• 29:25
  what they're if they're going to change anything at all. If so, what
• 29:27
  were they doing? If not, then well, me and you missed the
• 29:30
  last episode. Let's make sure tell everybody what's not on purpose. We intended
• 29:34
  to do it when we was down in Louisa. So when we talked to
• 29:37
  him, sorry, this was the last minute kind of like the last minute
• 29:38
  phone call I got Sunday about uh, you got the art for the page?
• 29:44
  You got one? I didn't even get one. Well, so he
• 29:47
  texted me, is it is in a conduit to you? Because y'all,
• 29:51
  yeah, that's the thing, like, and I can usually crank some bullshit
• 29:53
  out and you know, not thirty minutes. But it's just a matter of
• 29:56
  I was traveling, I was in a position to not really communicate it time.
• 30:00
  So I was like Nope, it wasn't intentional, but we don't tell
• 30:03
  him. We'll tell him about it. Also, we have uh Stam.
• 30:07
  He guides kind of in a few different areas around the country. I didn't
• 30:11
  really get his last name. We'll figure it out. But Stan, we're
• 30:14
  always open ears to talk to guides and how they live their life, where
• 30:17
  they fish, kind of what their inside is and their stories and their background.
• 30:21
  So we're excited to talk to stand. Do you all know. I
• 30:23
  don't remember who's sent us. I heard some story he reached out mountain.
• 30:27
  He reached out to me through it. Okay, I picked him up on
• 30:30
  the Instagram. You did, reached out to me and was telling me about
• 30:33
  some stuff because when we're going to Louisiana, apparently he guides in Okay,
• 30:37
  Yeah, so he had reached out to me and anyway, Yeah, it
• 30:41
  was kind of one of them rambling anger. Oh yeah, he gets around.
• 30:45
  Yeah, yeah, he bounces that whe the endless Summer to go.
• 30:55
  Well, let's uh, why don't we do this, let's hear from let's
• 30:59
  hear ben? Can I have another little segue for us? Yeah? And
• 31:03
  and I'm just looking at our new recording device. I don't think you should
• 31:07
  push the record button. I think you should just push the button. That's
• 31:10
  what I was gonna try. And by the way, later on we are
• 31:12
  going to post a picture of this. It looks like a ar angela.
• 31:17
  It does look Duck said, if that thing showed up on my doorstep,
• 31:23
  I would have thrown it away. We're gonna have been and then go to
• 31:27
  our sponsor forward from the media. So when that but here, Ben first,
• 31:33
  All right, so hey, Tucker joined us. We'll be right back.
• 31:37
  We're going to catch up with you. Thank you. Hey, I'm
• 31:41
  Ben. I'm a huge fly fisherman. My favorite way to listen to the
• 31:45
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• 32:30
  fly fishing industry for decades and the most important thing I've learned is that if
• 32:36
  you fail at everything else, you can always start a podcast and not me,
• 32:54
  because I'm me and not me. All right, Well, we're a
• 33:14
  real analog today. We're doing hands on stuff. I like that. Analog.
• 33:17
  Yeah, that's kind of a fun word. Analog. Analog analog.
• 33:22
  You can't spell analog without you know, you really can't, You really can't.
• 33:29
  Well, that just put a crick in my carrot. So I'm going
• 33:32
  to get kind of dialed up here to get ready to call uh Sam from
• 33:38
  SCOFF. You want to kind of talk about that, will Yeah. So
• 33:42
  for those who don't know, SCOFF is Southern Culture on the Fly magazine.
• 33:45
  It's an easine. It's been around for a long time, Me and Paul,
• 33:50
  Yeah, at least ten years. I think I think they're on their
• 33:52
  fiftieth issue or something like that. They do it. It's a it's a
• 33:58
  is it quarterly? Yeah, it's quarterly. So me and Paul have been
• 34:00
  involved with SCOFF since the early days, a long time ago. I've written
• 34:07
  a lot of big pieces for them, essays and whatnot. Paul's done tons
• 34:08
  of artwork and stuff for them. For the last probably five years or four
• 34:13
  years, me and Paul have done the back page as a collaboration. I'll
• 34:16
  usually spit out some bullshit words, Paul draw some you know, funny picture
• 34:21
  to go with the bullshit words. Maybe I just did a new drawing of
• 34:24
  you. Yeah, funny there holding like a exactly Yeah, we could do
• 34:32
  something like that, as long as I don't have to actually model for it.
• 34:36
  I think that would not But you can send me a picture yeah before.
• 34:39
  It's actually very rewarded. I have never dotten that, but that that's
• 34:44
  something to think about. But yees. Anyway, however, the previous owners
• 34:47
  were uh Steve and Dave, which we Steve for I can't remember Stee's last
• 34:54
  name, Sonberg Steinberg, and then uh Dave gros Grossman, that's right,
• 35:00
  which are hilarious dudes. And you've heard them on the show at least I
• 35:02
  think you've heard both of those guys. Y yeah, so yeah, and
• 35:07
  and I love I love Dave's riding, and I've always been appreciative of Dave
• 35:12
  and those guys always took really good care of us. And and now Sam
• 35:14
  has bought the magazine as of last year with some other folks, with some
• 35:19
  other folks. Yeah, but Sam is one of the main guys. And
• 35:22
  and there's still some of the original crew that was involved with it are still
• 35:25
  rolling with it. Alan Broyhill is still work Yeah. Yeah, so uh
• 35:30
  good friend of ours as well. And so yeah, and me and Paul
• 35:32
  are still contributing whatever random bullshit we can contribute to make it at work.
• 35:37
  But it's a great magazine. They're great people. They've taken really good care
• 35:39
  of us over the years. And it's free, so we're not selling you
• 35:44
  anything. You can go over there and read it for free. Yeah,
• 35:45
  that's pretty good stuff. Kill the record, love it. Oh crap,
• 35:53
  what happened there? We go anal log litl Turtle Box Studios, straight from
• 36:09
  the shell. Oh you pressed return, that's what you do, so hopefully
• 36:15
  this works. What are you returning to? I'm just trying. You did
• 36:20
  it with me earlier. I'm doing without the camera this time. Well,
• 36:23
  I figured it out the camera was nice that I could still see I think,
• 36:31
  he answered, Sam, what's first most important thing? Can you hear
• 36:37
  us? We can hear you. I can hear you. Oh you sound
• 36:42
  really good, Sam. Our phone calls are never this clear. We were
• 36:47
  terrible at this part of the But wherever you are right now, you can't
• 36:52
  move because your reception is perfect. I'm freeze. Don't move, don't walk
• 36:58
  out in the driveway, Sam, I got Mike, Doug and Tucker.
• 37:01
  Thanks for joining us. We we just gave the people that they needed this
• 37:07
  information. We kind of gave him a little background basically on scoff and kind
• 37:10
  of mic and Ize involvement and things that we've kind of contributed to the magazine
• 37:15
  in the past. But we'd love to find out from you kind of what
• 37:19
  the next steps are forward or what's your vision, what you're going to be
• 37:22
  doing the same and different and all that kind of stuff. So we'll just
• 37:24
  kind of all hodgepodg some questions at you. If that works, Okay,
• 37:30
  Yeah, sounds good, sounds good. Thanks for all you guys have done
• 37:32
  in the past for us, though it's a big part of it, oh
• 37:36
  Man, for sure. It's it's funny I hate that we weren't a part
• 37:38
  of this last one. It's just the timing of it. Uh, you
• 37:40
  guys were busy kind of putting it all together, and but hey, we'll
• 37:45
  come out big and strong for the for the next one. Sounds good.
• 37:49
  Well, I honestly for my part. You know, the fact that half
• 37:52
  the stuff that has ever been published in there for me actually made it through
• 37:57
  too, So the magazine has been a bit of a surprise. But I'm
• 38:00
  happy to throw more shit at you, y'all. You just keep going.
• 38:04
  You can have it all desperate, I guess, I mean exactly, but
• 38:10
  it's always my favorite thing to read, you know what I mean. It's
• 38:14
  it feels like it's more on my love one there you go. Definitely not
• 38:17
  not know Tom mcguine over here. We're all right. We always love it.
• 38:22
  So yeah, well, uh so Sam, just for for my purposes,
• 38:29
  because I haven't got to talk to you at all. We've never met
• 38:30
  in person, as texted. Yeah, we texted a lot on the old
• 38:34
  Cajun Seychelles thread that was on my phone a little hot minute there. But
• 38:39
  uh, what led you? I mean, I kind of know a little
• 38:42
  bit about Dave and Steve stepping away. I know their motivations a little bit.
• 38:45
  You know, I never claimed to know everything, but uh, what
• 38:49
  led you to to see this as a project you wanted to take on?
• 38:52
  Well, you know. The first thing was John Agricola. He's you know,
• 38:57
  our managing editor. He called me. We met back in twenty seventeen
• 39:01
  at the carp Cup and became friends, fished together. Saw him here and
• 39:06
  there and he called me and it was kind of his brainch out when he
• 39:09
  saw it. He was like, hey, have you seen that SCOFF is
• 39:14
  like closing its doors? And I'm like, no, I read I kind
• 39:16
  of read it, but I probably missed it. So let's let's look back.
• 39:20
  And went back and looked at it, and I was like, okay,
• 39:22
  I agree with you. I think they're trying to close. So let's
• 39:24
  try to devise a plan to see what we can do and take it over,
• 39:29
  keep it alive, because I mean, I've been a fan of SCOFF,
• 39:31
  you know, since I probably twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, and met
• 39:37
  Dave and Steve around December of thirteen at the Western Carolina fly Fishing Show.
• 39:44
  Became you know, friends, and had a lot of fun over the years
• 39:47
  with him, and we did not want to see it go away. So
• 39:51
  we talked about it, and John had an idea of a couple of guys
• 39:53
  that he wanted to be in on it, and we got together and made
• 39:58
  a proposal and they took it, and they were probably sitting there laughing like
• 40:02
  these suckers are actually gonna get y'all have quite y'all have quite the diverse team
• 40:08
  too, to kind of field all the ins and outs and all the different
• 40:13
  things that you know, go on, and not just the magazine, but
• 40:15
  just the industry of fly fishing, if you will. It's pretty cool,
• 40:20
  yeah, and it's it's been fun for sure. So a couple of doctors,
• 40:23
  you know, Yeah, you need some doctors for sure. Got a
• 40:28
  couple of doctors of you know, in the world of education or academia.
• 40:32
  I guess we call it academia, that's right. Uh. Well, so,
• 40:37
  you know, I've always kind of had and always heard stories and been
• 40:42
  personally involved with too. When someone buys a business, you obviously the reason
• 40:46
  as successful is for how it already is, but you always have some idea
• 40:51
  that you might do something different or add on. Do you guys have any
• 40:54
  sort of things that Scott never did that you're excited about maybe trying or doing.
• 41:00
  Definitely, you know. The main thing is one of the things that
• 41:04
  you've kind of helped us with in Atlanta. But we started the Scoff podcast,
• 41:08
  so okol you know, I don't know that will ever be to the
• 41:13
  Barely Live Well we know that, we know that, but we're gonna sure
• 41:21
  have fun trying. Yeah, we've got the first issue actually just dropped Monday
• 41:28
  with the magazine or the first episode. I should say, excuse me,
• 41:31
  what do we say the twenty first episode? Yeah, exactly. You never
• 41:36
  start on one, no, you gotta. Yeah, it's like, oh
• 41:37
  they got I gotta go fund these other twenty I just can't find them.
• 41:42
  They're hard to come Yeah, they're in the vault. That's right, like
• 41:45
  a year from now, you come out. We just found episode thirteen.
• 41:51
  Yeah, once a year come out with one of the prior twenties. I
• 41:54
  love that. Oh yeah, I have not listened to it yet. I
• 41:58
  definitely will. Yeah, that's one of the big ones this year. We're
• 42:00
  real excited about it, and you know, hopefully we can get you guys.
• 42:06
  I know we had a little fun with the the pre show recording that
• 42:12
  actually made it as our trailer, so you'll have to I was on that,
• 42:15
  guy, I was on that. Of course you are a poky.
• 42:17
  Now are you going to record every one of them in an embassy Suite hotel
• 42:21
  and make sure it's the same room number or what's the magic there? Well,
• 42:27
  they're definitely all going to be in hotels or or men's rooms. The
• 42:35
  men's room you get good at you get good acoustics in men's rooms. Yeah,
• 42:39
  live from the men's room at the Embassy Suite hotel. That would be
• 42:44
  pretty awesome, though, think about that. Don't steal the idea. Don't
• 42:47
  steal that. Hey, Sam, this is Doug. One of the questions
• 42:52
  I wanted to ask you, guys, I was really curious about this is
• 42:55
  you know, taking on this project. I'm sure you guys had this discussion
• 43:00
  a lot. What do y'all do on a daily basis to make sure that
• 43:04
  you're staying up with, you know, the most current pulse of what's happening
• 43:08
  in the industry so that you're bringing the best content, you know, the
• 43:13
  best new stuff like out there that's keeping people, you know, engaged and
• 43:19
  bringing new viewers to it. Well, you know that's tough. Theming is
• 43:24
  just trying to trying to have fun, you know, just trying to keep
• 43:28
  with new fun stories, stuff that we haven't you know, that we haven't
• 43:31
  really seen or out there, and we're you know, we take story submissions
• 43:37
  from people. Obviously there's you know, we have so many coming in we
• 43:40
  have to filter through them. Yeah, but but no, they're you know,
• 43:44
  we're trying to just keep it, keep it real the way it was
• 43:46
  before, with good stories about the trip. I don't want a story.
• 43:52
  I don't care about how you do it or where you live. I don't
• 43:54
  care about you know, how you rid your line and that kind of stuff.
• 44:00
  We don't either. But being honest with you, I don't really care
• 44:05
  about hearing how you fish because I know how to fish. All hearing about
• 44:07
  how you do how you mix that martini, Doug, or you get along
• 44:13
  really well with the beer. Yeah, yeah, So trust whatever it is
• 44:16
  is, I like, I like the stories about how how you do it
• 44:20
  beforehand, you know, the fun, the fun times during a trip,
• 44:24
  you know, all the ship talk and stuff after a trip. That's kind
• 44:28
  of what's fun. And that's kind of how I feel like Scoff has always
• 44:30
  been successful. Is they've never told anybody how to do it, or it's
• 44:35
  the right way or it's the wrong way. It's just do it your way
• 44:37
  as long as you're doing it well. I think some of the best fishing
• 44:40
  trips I've ever been on, uh you know, I've shown up places the
• 44:44
  fish with guys that didn't know me. You know, like, you know
• 44:45
  how it is when you're around the fishing world, you're getting interested this guy,
• 44:51
  that guy, oh my buddy will take you to fish for this fish.
• 44:52
  When you're in wherever and you show up and it's a bad day fishing,
• 44:57
  right, you show up and and it's just not going the way that
• 45:00
  those guys are used to fishing or whatever. And the first thing they always
• 45:02
  they come at you is like, man, I'm so sorry. It's usually
• 45:05
  a little better than this. We usually have this or that and that.
• 45:07
  And you know, I've always, like my standard, you know, answer
• 45:13
  to that is like, man, I don't give a shit, Like I
• 45:15
  just wanted to. I wanted to show up and see it like I wanted
• 45:19
  to, like, yeah, I wanted to be here, and thank you
• 45:22
  for letting me be here, you know, like that, And every time
• 45:23
  I've written a piece. I've always tried to look at it from that angle
• 45:29
  is what did I feel when I rolled up to the boat ramp, What
• 45:31
  did I smell? What did that smell remind me of? Where did that
• 45:35
  take me? What did I what did I have rolling through my head when
• 45:38
  I was riding out to the spot, or when I got to the spot,
• 45:42
  or when I saw the first fish. Because I'll tell you right now,
• 45:45
  man, my mind is always rolling one hundred miles an hour in the
• 45:47
  opposite direction. It's very rarely that I'm focused on anything, And I feel
• 45:52
  like that magazine. Dave and Steve always gave me an outlet to be able
• 45:55
  to write like that, to write from that angle, and I've always been
• 46:00
  very appreciative of that. It's always not everybody gets it, and not everybody
• 46:04
  wants it. Those guys always gave me a place to to to tell that
• 46:08
  story from that angle healthy the way I wanted to. And there's some more
• 46:14
  interesting stories to read too. I feel like it, But you know,
• 46:16
  then again, I'm bassed. Within a year, Like Sam, I'll be
• 46:21
  interested to ask you a year from now if like, like how young,
• 46:25
  I think he'll probably start seeing younger contributors, like younger people sending stuff in.
• 46:34
  That's what I hope he sees, you know, as people young,
• 46:37
  younger generations, because there's so much angst about the younger community out there.
• 46:42
  What do they really care about? What are they doing? Yeah, and
• 46:45
  if you see them contributing to things like this, I think it's a real
• 46:47
  good sign for sure. Yeah. And I feel like we have some you
• 46:52
  know, some younger guys you know, in their twenties, even though it
• 46:54
  may be the late twenties, early thirties, but ye that are wanting to
• 46:58
  be a part of it and stuff. And it is tough, you know,
• 47:00
  because I mean, I'm forty four. I'm not the oldest member.
• 47:04
  I'm right there in the middle. Though. We've got uh, you know,
• 47:07
  Scott's uh forty six something, right, fifty Yeah, so John's forty
• 47:21
  and then Hank's the young one, you know, or Alan actually is the
• 47:23
  young one, yeah, thirty three, thirty four, Yeah, that all.
• 47:30
  No, but We've got some, you know, some other guys out
• 47:31
  there, and and I've been talking to some of these kids at the shows.
• 47:35
  I'm like, hey, you know, submit some stuff. Yeah,
• 47:37
  then to some of your photography, you know, we'd love to see the
• 47:40
  other stuff. I don't know if y'all know deth Lynn Rogers, he's the
• 47:45
  he of guy, but he's a photographer and he's you know, he's done
• 47:47
  some work with us, and he's a very talented guy. That's awesome.
• 47:52
  So that's another younger, you know, younger generation. So well, I
• 47:55
  think I definitely like to keep it young. Well yeah, and I mean
• 47:59
  yeah, I don't understand all the newest slang and terms and whatnot, but
• 48:01
  like I mean, these kids that like if they want to get outside and
• 48:07
  that and that's the world they want to be a part of, Man,
• 48:07
  I'm all for it. I'll take them all day, every day. Let
• 48:10
  me go show you something. You know, I'm only as successful as I
• 48:14
  am the things I know and the things I learned. Yes, I got
• 48:16
  a lot of it on my own, grinding it out, but I had
• 48:20
  a lot of old dudes that took me under their wing and taught me a
• 48:22
  lot of really cool shit, Like some old school motherfuckers that really, for
• 48:28
  whatever reason, decided I was worth ten minutes, right, and so like
• 48:31
  I try to like make sure that I'm cognizant when I when of these young
• 48:35
  kids do reach out to me. Paul's mess with the mic when his young
• 48:38
  kids do reach out and and ask me stuff. I try to be cognitant
• 48:43
  sothing. You know, an old salty fucker took ten minutes with me one
• 48:45
  time, and I owe my ten minutes back to somebody else man. And
• 48:51
  so yeah, I'm glad to hear you guys are letting those kids have a
• 48:52
  moment. I mean it might be garbage, but at least lets them try.
• 48:57
  Platform. Yeah is if you you know, you reject someone, they're
• 49:00
  just going to go back and hopefully work harder to make them much better.
• 49:04
  And yeah, that's what happened. That's how you tell them to well,
• 49:08
  yeah, this society is a little bit softer than when we were growing up
• 49:13
  money, So you can't they can't just tell them how you suck, because
• 49:16
  then they go and they quit, they find something else to do. You're
• 49:19
  like, hey, look that's uh, not quite to where we are,
• 49:22
  but keep working and do this and this and maybe help them out a little.
• 49:25
  I feel like you can tell them as long as you come back with
• 49:29
  hey, this is garbage. Here's how it would be less garbage. Yeah,
• 49:34
  right, or directional, but to that point, Sam, this is
• 49:37
  a Tucker I wanted to ask, like, whenever you get a you know,
• 49:43
  you get a bunch of submissions and you're going through, you obviously know
• 49:45
  what you don't want, right, I mean, you don't want the Here's
• 49:49
  how you do it. Here's how you tied your not Here's how you tied
• 49:52
  your fly blah blah blah. You know that. So you're going through,
• 49:55
  You've weeded out all that stuff. How do you focus in going on?
• 50:02
  So, but you're going through it. You've got room for X number of
• 50:07
  stories, and you've got why submissions and you're going like, okay, like
• 50:14
  is there a theme to that quarterly release that you're going for? Is there
• 50:19
  is there, like, uh, something that you've got in your head of
• 50:22
  like a message that you're trying to convey, Like this matches up with what
• 50:27
  we're trying to right, Yeah. I mean yeah, you try to keep
• 50:30
  you know, like this was our winter issue, so we kind of try
• 50:34
  to keep the winter stories for winter issues, fall stories in the fall issue,
• 50:38
  spring, spring, summer, summer. I mean it sometimes it can
• 50:42
  be a little tough because you you know, you have the space that you
• 50:45
  need to fill and you have good submissions and you want to get them out.
• 50:49
  There's some people don't necessarily want to wait, so we do try to,
• 50:52
  you know, but we do try to keep them towards the season that
• 50:57
  it is. So you know, you're not reading about you know, fishing,
• 51:01
  uh, you know, super super summertime fishing in the middle of winter,
• 51:06
  and now you're just dreaming about that. Here's some winter time stuff,
• 51:07
  you know, here's winter Everglades stuff. And I guess you want to look
• 51:10
  forward, right Wait, when you release something, you want to look forward.
• 51:15
  So everyone's excited about like right now you're everyone's excited about the next season
• 51:22
  right down here. All we talked about our tails. I marked every tailing
• 51:25
  tide on. I went full geek mood the other day and I already sat
• 51:32
  down and marked every single fishable, like even the marginal ones that I know.
• 51:37
  If the wind blows just right, like just so, I have an
• 51:39
  alarm going off on my phone saying, hey, check check your tie.
• 51:44
  Hey sam, uh, this is probably a good time also for you guys
• 51:46
  to announce that cicadaa tournament thing or whatever the hell you're calling it. Yeah,
• 51:53
  yeah, this this this uh, this last issue our fiftieth issue.
• 51:59
  We actually kind of did jump ahead a little bit because we announced our Cicada
• 52:02
  tournament that's gonna be coming up this spring, and we also had a story
• 52:07
  kind of about this great Southern brood that we're gonna have this year. So
• 52:13
  it's a really great story about that. It's written by an entomologist here in
• 52:17
  North Georgia. That's us. You know, he's like the Cicada Master and
• 52:23
  then he kills it at the parties. It's gonna be every seventeen years.
• 52:34
  This is gonna be loud. Oh yeah, it's gonna be wownish. So
• 52:44
  you guys have a tournament, like, let's let's get back on track,
• 52:47
  Sam, Yeah. Yeah. So the it's called the Emergence Convergence. The
• 52:53
  registration is open now. The tournament is going to start May the tenth,
• 52:58
  and it's gonna roll through June the twenty first, So it's a month a
• 53:00
  little over a month long tournament. It is free to enter, so everybody
• 53:05
  can enter. There's you know a bunch of different ways you can win.
• 53:08
  It's not all about just catching fish, but there are going to be like
• 53:13
  biggest fish awards and everything has to be caught on a cicada fly. So
• 53:16
  it'll be a carp you know, catfish, brim bass. I'm sure maybe
• 53:22
  we'll do a trout or something like that there. We're still working on some
• 53:24
  of the details, but we've got a ton of uh, you know,
• 53:30
  prizes is going to be there. Yeah. Some of the other things that
• 53:31
  are cool is like, hey, guess what, there's a write the best
• 53:36
  cicada song, make some cool cicada art, eat cicadas, tie cool cicada
• 53:42
  fly. You know, just do your best that you can do is kind
• 53:45
  of the thing. And there's gonna be ways to win other than just catching
• 53:47
  fish. So it's gonna be a lot of fun. We got even waiting
• 53:51
  for Korean barbecue. Cicada's gonna eat some cicados bright, I mean, make
• 53:58
  a nice couple of recipes. I can make him up in a cocktail.
• 54:00
  I mean, he's gonna be Can we have a category for redfish just I
• 54:06
  mean, I can. I could make a I can make a red fish
• 54:13
  pop and cork on a flyer. I can. I feel like I'm not
• 54:16
  bragging from a place of inexperience, like I could make a red fish eat
• 54:21
  a cicada. He won't like it. Believed really high right now, Sam,
• 54:27
  he might love it. He's very spelt and smart. So are you
• 54:30
  guys doing any sort of event for like the culmination of that tournament anywhere,
• 54:35
  any any place? Yeah, so we're gonna get We're still working on the
• 54:39
  details of the final event or the final day event, so on the twenty
• 54:44
  first. The plan right now is to host a few different viewing locations of
• 54:50
  the tournament, like the ends awards ceremony. We'll be probably putting it like
• 54:54
  Instagram Live. But we're gonna have some events and a few uh flys shops
• 55:00
  around the southeast where one of our group will be at the fly shop and
• 55:06
  we'll probably have some beer, have some food, some giveaways, you know
• 55:12
  that kind of stuff. We'll do that for the awards ceremonies and so we
• 55:16
  can bring it in you know, everybody can be a part of it.
• 55:19
  That's one of the coolest things or one of the best things for this one
• 55:22
  is it's the only free tournament out there right that you can actually win some
• 55:24
  cool stuff. And yeah, I mean we've got we've already got some really
• 55:28
  cool prizes donated and we're working on more every day. So some of the
• 55:34
  big, big companies are coming in strong. Nice man, Let's plan on
• 55:37
  Avenue all down here for Taylor's ball down next October. Yeah, that'd be
• 55:43
  awesome one way or another. Come do a little story on it, or
• 55:45
  just come not know a story on it. Come hang out. Well,
• 55:47
  I've been talking a lot, and he's supposed to be coming down with his
• 55:51
  new his new little lady and coming down and fishing this summer. So I'm
• 55:53
  hoping he takes me up on that. We used to It used to be
• 55:57
  about a week every year. Paul, you've missed every throw. Sorry,
• 56:02
  Paul has been tossing beer cans of this giant trash can all night and he
• 56:07
  has missed everything. He's not a golfer. Yeah, well you would think
• 56:14
  I knew my dimensions, Like I'm in my place, this is my home
• 56:16
  court. Well, I mean, Sam, this has been great and I'm
• 56:21
  not trying to shrive the YAF. You can hang out here all night as
• 56:23
  far as I'm concerned. But is there anything you would like to to put
• 56:28
  out there about SCOFF or about y'all's vision for SCOFF or anything coming up that
• 56:31
  other than the tournament? Of course, what we talked about Is there anything
• 56:34
  you'd like to throw out there before we do part ways here at some point.
• 56:39
  Yeah, man, just uh, if you're if you're not subscribed,
• 56:42
  go out there, support a subscribe, you know, be a part of
• 56:45
  it. It's we're out there for everybody. Anybody has any ideas. If
• 56:49
  you want to, you know, try to get published in the best Southern
• 56:52
  fly fishing magazine in the world, send your submissions to John at Southern Culture
• 57:00
  on the Fly and uh, he will look through them and tell them how
• 57:04
  bad you suck and then maybe put in there. Anyway, I will say,
• 57:07
  they let me in. So the bar is pretty low, do you
• 57:09
  think on kind of it, Like on a semi serious note, I mean,
• 57:16
  it's not very often that I've gone into a fly shop anywhere in the
• 57:21
  Southeast to see like a lot of cicada patterns, like they're out there.
• 57:27
  Well, I know they're out there, but I'm just yeah, carp guys
• 57:30
  have them, but out west they have them. But yeah, otherwise,
• 57:31
  you know, just Chocolate's got a pretty famous one. I was just thinking
• 57:38
  that, like, if there's if there's areas that you know you have a
• 57:42
  good following, I don't know if it's good marketing or whatever to reach out
• 57:45
  to those shops and be like, hey, we're doing this tournament. Maybe
• 57:47
  he stuck some cicada flies. That's the old shop manager in Tucker. Tucker
• 57:52
  used to manage the Charles and Angler, and he's like, could you could
• 57:54
  you give the shops the heads up to stock up ahead of time? Mike,
• 58:00
  I can see you and gather a story about you and I trying to
• 58:04
  get a redfish to eat a cady. We could call it ethnic dining.
• 58:09
  We would do this. I don't think we should title it that at all.
• 58:15
  Stuff. I think we need to well, I think we need to
• 58:16
  workshop that title a little bit more. Everybody say sensitive these days. Sam's
• 58:24
  like, can y'all edit me out of this thing, because we're not gonna
• 58:29
  edit anything you You no longer have my consent to post this anywhere. Well,
• 58:36
  on that note, let's uh wrap the sucker up. Thanks, buddy,
• 58:39
  Appreciate the time. Yeah, man, Well, I enjoyed it.
• 58:44
  Appreciate you guys having me, and definitely look forward to getting over to Charleston.
• 58:46
  Uh, Mike, I feel like I know you because we have a
• 58:50
  lot of mutual friends from the old Drake days. Oh, Yeah, definitely
• 58:53
  look forward to getting to meet you. I hate the Cajun stay shows didn't
• 58:57
  work out, but we're gonna get it back on the books and I'll let
• 58:59
  you. I was literally talking to Paul about this today. I was like,
• 59:02
  you know, you know, it just is when his life goes through
• 59:06
  phases, ups and downs and whatnot, you know. And uh, I've
• 59:08
  got a real small child, and so I've been kind of on lockdown for
• 59:12
  like a year and a half now, where I haven't really fished at the
• 59:14
  level that I expect myself to fish at. And I was looking so forward
• 59:17
  to just getting out of the house and going on a fishing trip for the
• 59:22
  for that cage and say Shell's trip, And uh, it's stung. It's
• 59:24
  stung pretty hard because not only did I like my job, I have limited
• 59:29
  amount of time that I can take off for weekends. It's the whole thing
• 59:30
  I'm not get into. But uh so I killed one of those weekends to
• 59:34
  do that trip, and then whenever the trip didn't go through, I got
• 59:37
  stuck just doing a family weekends, which just this sounds terrible to complain about,
• 59:43
  and I don't want my wife to hear this, and I think I'm
• 59:45
  complaining because I had a great time. But it's like I went like from
• 59:49
  this expectation that I'm cashing in these points to get like some time away of
• 59:52
  my own to do something I love, and then I got literally just he's
• 1:00:00
  got more time with my child and my wife, which I loved dearly.
• 1:00:02
  And it was a great weekend, but it's stunk, and you and your
• 1:00:07
  rife who as well. I never cussom Winds so hard in my life.
• 1:00:15
  I was on. I was on the sell flow. Like every they update,
• 1:00:17
  just so people don't know, they update at eight am, they update
• 1:00:21
  at noon, and they update at four pm every day, and they probably
• 1:00:23
  update in the middle of a little bit. No. I just looked at
• 1:00:27
  saelflow a lot, so like every time every time I look up, I
• 1:00:30
  would like watch as soon as i'd refresh, you know, see what the
• 1:00:34
  update was. And it just got shittier and shittier, and I got madder
• 1:00:37
  and matter it was bad. I know it was Rico was. Rico was
• 1:00:45
  texting me, He's like, what do you think. I'm like, I
• 1:00:46
  don't know, man, I want to come, but he's like, look,
• 1:00:49
  hey, it's up to y'all. We can cancel it the day of
• 1:00:51
  as far as I'm concerned, but I know you got guys flying. I'm
• 1:00:53
  like, yeah, I'm gonna kind of leave up to them because I'm I'm
• 1:00:57
  whatever, I'll do it, but I don't want to be miserable. So
• 1:01:00
  plus that I got some Delta points now I got to cash him later,
• 1:01:06
  didn't. Yeah, we get some time. Let's talk offline, and I'd
• 1:01:09
  love to find when the best time for you guys to make it is,
• 1:01:13
  because I really want you guys on that trip with us. You know it's
• 1:01:16
  gonna be pretty cool trips. It'll be twenty twenty five. But yeah,
• 1:01:20
  yeah, let's help. We need. We need to repeat a Mike's Bachelor
• 1:01:23
  party. That's what we need. That's the best we yes, we I
• 1:01:29
  don't know if I can handle that. We can tone down, all right,
• 1:01:31
  Sam, Hey, man, I really appreciate you. Yeah, buddy,
• 1:01:35
  thank you. Good to talk to about it. Thanks. I appreciate
• 1:01:37
  man, y'all. All right, what a nice failer. It is weird
• 1:01:45
  we meant him. Do have like so many tied acquaintances that it's odd that
• 1:01:51
  I haven't you know what it is. I probably have seen him in person,
• 1:01:53
  but yeah, I don't. I don't merchandise like this shirts and well
• 1:02:00
  they don't pay anything for their articles. But I do have like six golf
• 1:02:04
  hoodies because that's what Dave used to pay me in every time I get around
• 1:02:07
  me and have me a new hoodie. And that was like the only way
• 1:02:09
  I've got my favorite one though, I still have a one of their old
• 1:02:12
  school ones is a black hoodie that just says I love fried chicken. Yeah,
• 1:02:16
  I have. That's one of my favorite hoodie. One of the first
• 1:02:19
  videos I shot in Charleston. You're wearing that? Oh was it? Yeah?
• 1:02:22
  That was that towel of my That was a good video, one of
• 1:02:28
  the best. Oh, I was so hung over that video. Let's get
• 1:02:30
  into the on the next segment. Yeah, I think I think we need
• 1:02:35
  to breathe take a little break for a second. Yeah, let's do it.
• 1:02:37
  Let's get Ben in on this. You can take us out to the
• 1:02:42
  next little segment. Yeah. You'll hear that little fart and sound too in
• 1:02:46
  the background. Yeah, I've been hearing it. I don't know what we'll
• 1:02:52
  see the static. It's probably a wire touching another wire somewhere in the world
• 1:02:57
  by the tarantula of wires that you out. Yeah, get to my chuck
• 1:03:02
  commercials or sponsors to just get ready for that countdown a bomb. Are you
• 1:03:07
  ready? Hey I'm Ben. I'm a huge fly fisherman. I've fished with
• 1:03:14
  mad Mic a few times. One time he put me on my first red
• 1:03:16
  fish. Another time we stared at Dryspartana for three hours and then beat the
• 1:03:21
  hell out of our kidneys in a John boat. Hey, I'm Ben,
• 1:03:25
  I'm a huge fly Fishermans new size eighty three Ranger Spartan. Watch you drop
• 1:03:31
  it on America. Hey man, it's from Colorado. You say it's Spartans
• 1:03:36
  with engine Ranger's mind. It is this high and Ranger has rugged twin I
• 1:03:42
  beam suspension here and the whitest cab of any small pickup in there. So
• 1:03:45
  drop it on your Ford dealer and land a new size Ranger for yourself.
• 1:03:52
  America's drug Cup Cord Ranger one two three, We're live. Hey, I'm
• 1:03:59
  Ben, I'm huge fly fisherman. I don't think coon claw powder is a
• 1:04:02
  real thing. Just saying hey Mike, we don't need that anymore. Actually,
• 1:04:10
  I'm just going with Spotify on here. Okay, Oh yeah, you're
• 1:04:15
  not doing the analog anymore. I do like some Zach Bryan, Oh,
• 1:04:21
  does that mean we get to pick our artists our album as we first bring
• 1:04:24
  to the table. That's what I was gonna We're gonna hate mine. No,
• 1:04:26
  I'm bringing it up. So I was just kind of thinking, maybe
• 1:04:30
  we should bring up some music that each of us are listening to right now.
• 1:04:33
  But album, oh, I got whatever, it's weird, and mine
• 1:04:40
  is way off the you don't even know, you don't even know what we're
• 1:04:43
  getting into, and it's a it's it's a way off my inspector toy.
• 1:04:45
  But I wrote over here listening to it, and I enjoyed every minute of
• 1:04:47
  it, And I don't hate that. You scared me to the pot where
• 1:04:49
  maybe we're listening to the same thing Taylor's weft no or not listening to that,
• 1:04:57
  But why mins, I'm not gonna lie to you. I've listened according
• 1:05:00
  to Yeah, there's a clip right there, cocktail that wasn't clip, that
• 1:05:15
  wasn't a clip, that was just Doug a live. Okay, you start
• 1:05:18
  off, so music and this isn't like music we shouldn't normally necessarily listen to.
• 1:05:24
  I just my pick happens with something I normally would never learn. So
• 1:05:27
  funny enough, I got this artist from Schliskey, our good friend Matt Schliskey.
• 1:05:31
  Oh boy. And now normally he puts up a bunch of punk rock
• 1:05:35
  and stuff, right, which would be up my alley, and I do
• 1:05:38
  listen to some of that. But he put up this little video. This
• 1:05:41
  dude who's a rapper in like the Southwest, and his name is Ryan Charles,
• 1:05:45
  and he's he's a white dude. But he raps about like I mean,
• 1:05:50
  he raps about rap ship you know, it's it's it's very much and
• 1:05:55
  it's very much new age rap. It's that that type of rap that I
• 1:05:58
  don't listen to, Like I listened to old hip hop and rap. I'm
• 1:06:00
  a big fan, but this is not the genre of rap I normally would
• 1:06:03
  be into. But he's like, he's good and he's very kind of authentic.
• 1:06:08
  He didn't he didn't like go weird, but he talked. He talks
• 1:06:10
  about having like he said, he talks about like diamonds and stuff, but
• 1:06:14
  he talks about like turquoise stones, like he's got got turquoise stones on the
• 1:06:16
  like snake skin boots and his pearl says new boot Goofing by Ryan Charles,
• 1:06:25
  New Boot Goofing. Yeah, it's very new rage rap. So just prepare
• 1:06:30
  yourself. It's not normal. Be the nicest pair of boots I know,
• 1:06:39
  and they haven't seen in mine. That's Paul. No, it's not Paul.
• 1:06:44
  It's a real guy. I love it. Even dim back snakes.
• 1:06:54
  This is a white dude. Yeah, rattles still shaking. It's funny.
• 1:07:04
  I saw someone put this on something recently, new boot Goop, and I
• 1:07:08
  was like, I like the sound of that. That's a thing. Though
• 1:07:11
  people have said that before, I don't know. I've never heard of baby,
• 1:07:15
  and I love it, he said, and blanked out. He said,
• 1:07:17
  I'm twanged out, baby, all right? So once again new boot
• 1:07:25
  Goofing from Ryan Charles. How's the rest of the album got? He's got
• 1:07:29
  a couple of the songs. I mean, it's very much. It's this
• 1:07:31
  like this is it is hip hop? Yeah, you know, rhyme.
• 1:07:36
  It's not my normal genre of music. But I I found like he's got
• 1:07:41
  this one line of something like this goy Turi stones in my grill like I
• 1:07:45
  don't know how to explain it, like somehow Southwest, Yeah, somehow.
• 1:07:50
  In the video it's I'm telling you it is not my normal motif. But
• 1:08:00
  videos he checked out all I want my next, my next, So watch
• 1:08:08
  the Grammys, right, don't ever ever, I don't even remember the last
• 1:08:12
  time I've watched the Grammy and be like, oh, I like this,
• 1:08:15
  I'm gonna check that out. I watch it really for pure entertainment of like,
• 1:08:18
  what the fuck is this? Please don't do it fast Car with Tracy
• 1:08:23
  Chap. But I did enjoy that beautiful. It was all over the internet
• 1:08:30
  that So I'm watching this and I think I just saw an interview with these
• 1:08:36
  these people. It's like, I'm very intrigued with this. This these three
• 1:08:41
  girls that kind of look like boys, kind of this weird kind of but
• 1:08:45
  they can treat me or like, I kind of feel like I have to
• 1:08:48
  check that out because they ended up getting Grammy for like the Best Rock Performance
• 1:08:53
  or something like that. You know, all these weird origs and now you
• 1:08:56
  can't even keep it strong. So I checked it out and I kind of
• 1:09:00
  did those three girls, one of them I'm very intrigued with it. Turns
• 1:09:05
  out she dated Ryan Adams when she was twenty, back when Ryan Adams was
• 1:09:09
  getting in trouble for mentally basically just screwing over all these girls and they last
• 1:09:15
  anyway. So this is the band. It's called Boy Genius. Oh boy
• 1:09:23
  m hm. You go to beorn because it sounds like, let's give it
• 1:09:36
  a chance. Let's give it a chance. You get one verse and of
• 1:09:42
  course it's rum. I feel like my period that started come out of it.
• 1:10:05
  Though I didn't say bad things when your music guy was on time,
• 1:10:14
  that perfectly. Everybody took a swing of the d's a little scut. I
• 1:10:19
  love watching Dog. It's all like one hand, like you fine. So
• 1:10:27
  if we're learning anything, is nothing more awkward than watching a bunch of middle
• 1:10:30
  aged man was just like, so this is I've been I can't get over.
• 1:10:40
  I don't Yeah, once again, I was listening to new Boot Goofings.
• 1:10:45
  I mean, what am I judging right now? You know it's good
• 1:10:48
  painting music. Sit around here, get into the Phoebe Bridges and it's good
• 1:10:54
  stuff. I like it all right, Phoebe Bridges sing smelly. I mean
• 1:10:59
  it's so they're like, okay mine. I actually I get the music that
• 1:11:05
  I'm like. Sometimes I listen to is like we're driving down the keys,
• 1:11:10
  driving around and I'm just like, oh, ship, I've never heard of
• 1:11:13
  this. And I's like, oh ship, you never heard of them?
• 1:11:15
  Like the guy's been around for like twenty years whatever. I'm like, no,
• 1:11:17
  yeah. But then there's other stuff that's like a lot harder, like
• 1:11:24
  let's hear it, what you got Avenge Sevenfold? Oh god, what it's
• 1:11:28
  called? Sevenfold? Aveinged? Sevenfoldinged? Okay, and it's got it.
• 1:11:34
  This is gonna be some metal. Hang on, you got to got Hail
• 1:11:38
  to the King, Nightmare, a little piece of Heaven Afterlife or bat Country.
• 1:11:42
  No, it's not heavy metal. It's like the game with the Row
• 1:11:48
  and Tucker. I'm not playing it because I'm I'm your age, like we're
• 1:11:51
  the same age. But this is starting to become bad rock now, like
• 1:11:54
  this is it's starting to get into that dad rock category. Listen to our
• 1:11:58
  drummer Brooks, Wait, what's dad rock? Well, dad rock used to
• 1:12:01
  be what we consider what our dads listened to, Like my dad was big
• 1:12:04
  into Chicago and and like you know, all that kind of ship. But
• 1:12:09
  now, like the the stuff that was hot in the early two thousands,
• 1:12:11
  the late nineties, like you're you're all them witches, all of them it's
• 1:12:17
  nobody, nobody even all of them Witches sounds so weird but so good.
• 1:12:24
  So like this is what I listened to when I work out. This is
• 1:12:28
  gonna get you jammed up. We're gonna go oh the Grim Reapers on the
• 1:12:35
  cover of the album. We started up a little bit, you got to,
• 1:12:40
  I mean, this is I can see Tucker just moving a house.
• 1:12:55
  Dan not bad based drive it. I kind of don't mind it. I
• 1:13:08
  was just like that Judas Priest kind of feel to it, you know,
• 1:13:12
  like it really does kind of have that kind of go or harmonic you know,
• 1:13:19
  harmonic metal that yeah. Ok, yeah, key change. So we
• 1:13:27
  can basically say anything we went to at this point because everyone mine's just elis.
• 1:13:40
  So the other side, what is it? Culture Wall? Oh yeah,
• 1:13:46
  so like that's the other side of me. It should be though,
• 1:13:50
  you should have a different polarized music. Yeah, well, no one wants
• 1:13:54
  to listen to culture Wall and Adventure. No you can't. Guy Ellis Bowler
• 1:14:00
  which one. But that's a good one. Yeah, I mean yeah,
• 1:14:08
  I live my life somewhere in that Americana folk world, but occasionally he needs
• 1:14:13
  something difference my case. New Boots kipt Duck said to today, and I
• 1:14:17
  was like, well, that's just fucking good. Some guys from Austin,
• 1:14:20
  Ellis Bullard the album named piss Hot Freightlining country Music, piss Hout. It's
• 1:14:32
  always listening to Convoy for something. Man, it does sound like that.
• 1:14:38
  We're pot of artists. Yeah, but his voice sounds like someone too,
• 1:14:41
  I just can't quite know. Pretty good well, Jamie Johnson definitely voice.
• 1:14:50
  Yeah, the voice, not the telecaster. Everyone talks whiskey and George.
• 1:15:04
  You can't not say it. Is there not a little bit of a George
• 1:15:13
  Jones kind of twang in there, a little bit a little bit And the
• 1:15:15
  fact that he just said maybe kind of like wait a second. At least
• 1:15:20
  he didn't try to hide it well, but he's got that that that Whylon
• 1:15:25
  Jennings kind of the music in the background, that twine. I guess who
• 1:15:28
  wins. I'm gonna go with the death. I was kidding about George earlier.
• 1:15:33
  I was kidding. Really, I wasn't kidding about my wrap ship that
• 1:15:40
  I literally wrote over here. Listen to that and I was feeling good.
• 1:15:43
  It was Sonny out and I felt nice. We can listen to that on
• 1:15:46
  on a web we're riding around. I've thought about this. So here's something
• 1:15:50
  y'all that might not know out there. If you're going to fish somewhere that
• 1:15:55
  doesn't have service right and you can't you can't stream your your Spotify or whatever
• 1:16:00
  that you listen to music on and you don't pay the money to have the
• 1:16:02
  offline service availability. One thing you can do that everybody in their perspective areas
• 1:16:09
  can do is you can download the Libby app, which is your local library
• 1:16:14
  app, which you should do that for reading anyway, but basically what it
• 1:16:17
  is is a free app. If you have a if you have a library
• 1:16:19
  card at your local library, you can use that library card to log into
• 1:16:25
  I want to see approved of that right now. I don't library, but
• 1:16:28
  I think I have a library card right now. Me and my daughter went
• 1:16:34
  to God he has a tugger has a library. I don't have one on
• 1:16:39
  my every week with my kids. Yeah, I have a library, but
• 1:16:43
  I had it before I had a child. But here's like, go to
• 1:16:46
  go to your library, get your library card. It costs almost nothing and
• 1:16:50
  it supports your local library, which is a great thing. But then when
• 1:16:53
  you download the Libery app, the Libby app is free. You just log
• 1:16:58
  in with your library, whatever your local life Berry is, and each library
• 1:17:00
  has allotted certain numbers of digital files. One of the things that they're allotted
• 1:17:04
  is music. You can download and save albums to your phone that are yours
• 1:17:10
  for two weeks or whatever the borrowing time period is for that album. At
• 1:17:14
  two weeks, they go away from your phone and you can't access them anymore.
• 1:17:16
  But for two weeks you have well no, it's it downloads to your
• 1:17:20
  phone through the app, but through the app, but then it actually goes
• 1:17:24
  away from it. It's weird. So you can actually download albums, store
• 1:17:27
  them in your phone for two week period, and then you can play those
• 1:17:30
  at whatever. So, like, if you know you're going out of town
• 1:17:32
  and you've got a couple albums like man, I'd love to jam this and
• 1:17:34
  wherever the hell I'm going, you can download like two or three albums,
• 1:17:38
  save them as long as they're available, save them for the two weeks,
• 1:17:41
  and then you can access them offline, and it counts towards their overall Like
• 1:17:47
  activity budgets, they get more. Yeah, digital books, audio books,
• 1:17:58
  all that stuff. Where were we you wanted to hear Toad the West broadcast.
• 1:18:00
  I love to say it again. I love it's from Money Python's that's
• 1:18:11
  where they got that name from. I didn't know the character which moved to
• 1:18:17
  the witch sproke it like he was the guy's name and which which which I
• 1:18:21
  don't remember. It was a life of Bryant. Sure, sure your legs
• 1:18:29
  off, it's just a wound. That was the Holy Girl. That's a
• 1:18:32
  whole different that was. I know, yeah, I know, okay,
• 1:18:35
  I'm just so clear. Have you ever seen the have you seen the Castle
• 1:18:41
  is doing in England? Stupid? Have you ever heard the right reasons this
• 1:18:45
  time? Have you ever? Have you ever seen the documentary about Mony Python
• 1:18:49
  was? But I've heard they're all in a bad way. Good, well
• 1:18:53
  most of them are. Well, yeah, they're like fighting over but yeah,
• 1:18:57
  the documentary was good, like going like a lot of stuff and like
• 1:19:00
  halftime they're like, yeah, we were fucking high. I don't know how.
• 1:19:02
  Guys were just geniuses. Man, where did you get coconut from?
• 1:19:12
  It's tropical super climate. My favorite is still the Dead Parrots sketch. This
• 1:19:19
  parent is deceased, he is no more, he has ceased to be.
• 1:19:30
  It's one of the funniest things that ever existed. You say your father smelled
• 1:19:36
  your father, your mother smelled of elderberries. Your father was a hamster and
• 1:19:42
  your mother smelled of elderberry. Now go away all right with tounch you damn.
• 1:19:49
  I just remember in the late seventies, that's all my parents watched,
• 1:19:53
  Like late night was my Python a Sturn Live. That's what we still watched.
• 1:19:58
  That. That was crazy if you think about it now, even some
• 1:20:03
  people didn't didn't even have three. But back in the day where you had
• 1:20:06
  three channels and PBS three had three channels and you had to get up,
• 1:20:14
  that's what I'm saying. Some people didn't have three if you lived out in
• 1:20:15
  the country, you know what I remember. Yeah, So Sarah grew up
• 1:20:18
  with one channel or she was, and I had We all had CBS,
• 1:20:24
  NBC, ABC and TVs. Yeah, he's got a cable. Yeah.
• 1:20:29
  So you remember my my dad talking about growing up when like they didn't have
• 1:20:32
  a TV. But then they finally got one, you know, and they
• 1:20:36
  you know, the newscaster would sign off and it would go you know.
• 1:20:41
  Yeah. Remember that means that there had to be a coincidence of television broadcasting
• 1:20:49
  and the television HM like how does that line itself up? Like, how
• 1:20:57
  do you say, like, oh, I'm gonna go invent this televisi and
• 1:21:00
  someone else goes like, oh ship, no way. I was taking this
• 1:21:02
  camera and I was gonna put it in someone's face, and then we're gonna
• 1:21:05
  tellus that's actually a really good point. Like which came first? I mean
• 1:21:09
  obviously you had radio first, but then someone said I want to be able
• 1:21:13
  to see. In my estimation, the television came first, and then someone
• 1:21:16
  said, all right, how do we make this work for us? How
• 1:21:18
  well radio came first? Well no, no, but I mean radio first.
• 1:21:24
  What is the famous movie alter guys? I was sitting here thinking about
• 1:21:30
  it already, because that's where I learned that that even happened. Yeah,
• 1:21:32
  well, oh I used to watch TV would turn off see Like yeah,
• 1:21:39
  but so TV is broadcast through radio ways, right yeah something originally? So
• 1:21:45
  yeah, uh, I think they call that analog. Yes, thank you,
• 1:21:49
  But I think they had to invent the wave in order to have No.
• 1:21:56
  So here's here's how I say it. So like what you what you
• 1:21:58
  have is you have two separate people, right, you have a guy that
• 1:22:00
  invents, Like, here's how I can take film and make it show up
• 1:22:02
  as like, because you have your recordings, right, so you had to
• 1:22:04
  You had movies before you ever had a TV. Right, So now what
• 1:22:09
  somebody had to say was like how can we play this at home? Like?
• 1:22:12
  How can we present this? Right? So you created a machine that
• 1:22:15
  can take images and produce them on a screen. But on top of that,
• 1:22:20
  but the radio waves are already there. Yeah, radio We had to
• 1:22:25
  have visual wave too, which was a different type of wave. Yeah it
• 1:22:29
  was probably, but it's the same concept, right. So like you have
• 1:22:31
  a guy that says I can take this wavelength and make it make images versus
• 1:22:35
  make sound or make both, I guess, and technically speaking you have to
• 1:22:39
  make both, but multi. But I imagine I understand that you can take
• 1:22:46
  sound and you can transmit it a long way because sound travels waste, light
• 1:22:51
  travels and waves too. You're asking me how a watch works. I think
• 1:22:55
  we should just keep her out in the time it Yeah, I think honestly,
• 1:23:02
  Like, honestly, this is the way above our pay grade and we
• 1:23:03
  shouldn't spend too much time talking about it. But honestly, it all comes
• 1:23:09
  down to what we consider a computer. Now, right, you have you
• 1:23:13
  have a motherboard quote unquote, which would have been a did you have the
• 1:23:17
  Internet, because you have the internet back in the seventies before, yeah,
• 1:23:19
  but no, but this was this was you're taking what all everything we do,
• 1:23:25
  like the Internet, all these things. All you're doing is you're taking
• 1:23:28
  information that is condensed down to a form that is super simplistic in the course
• 1:23:31
  of an Internet or or a computers ones and zeros, in the course of
• 1:23:35
  TV through airwaves it's radio waves, right, And so you're taking you're taking
• 1:23:41
  that information and you're creating a computer chip, a a processor that can take
• 1:23:46
  input and information and translate it into an output information. So you give it
• 1:23:53
  X, Y and z, it gives you, you know, A B
• 1:23:55
  and C, right, and so that's what you're looking at. How all
• 1:24:00
  that happens? Fuck if I know, I'm not a goddamn engineer, but
• 1:24:03
  it happened to invent the TV and sit around and wait for the way that
• 1:24:06
  broadcast stuff. Just if I if I were, if I were a scientist
• 1:24:13
  sitting around with radio only right, like and then movies start coming out,
• 1:24:16
  I can see a scientist or some sort of engineer sitting around, like,
• 1:24:20
  how do I take radio waves? And make images out of it. How
• 1:24:25
  do I convert radio waves into images? Yeah, so you get a scientist
• 1:24:30
  or a guy who says I can do that. He had to have gone
• 1:24:32
  to the big radio producers at the time and be like, I can take
• 1:24:36
  your same broadcast that you're doing, but if you do it from a camera
• 1:24:41
  and you produce those radio waves, I can make that in images in the
• 1:24:43
  home. And so then you probably got funding that would help them promote more
• 1:24:46
  research and ship to make that happens. I feel like we're talking about stuff
• 1:24:50
  that has nothing to do with our podcasts, but sometimes I think about that.
• 1:24:57
  Well, no, I mean it's interesting, and it's like, okay,
• 1:25:01
  electricity existed, all right, we discovered electricity and it was like ship,
• 1:25:06
  what are we going to do with it? Yeah, like the how
• 1:25:11
  do we harness it? How do we how do we make it useful?
• 1:25:14
  Useful? It's like was was the light bulb? The first thing we ever
• 1:25:17
  used electricity for for docklight fishing? That was fish. I mean, to
• 1:25:26
  be fair, Edison did have a place down in Chocolawski and it was a
• 1:25:30
  big tarpa and fisherman, So maybe it was dock lights like that. That's
• 1:25:35
  yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you never read The Swamp And I don't
• 1:25:40
  think it was Chocolost, Yeah, I think it was. It's I think
• 1:25:43
  it was. No, it was one of the islands. It's amazing.
• 1:25:47
  I think it was not Graham, but it was. It was one of
• 1:25:49
  those. It was Marco or one of those Marco Island, the original,
• 1:25:54
  the original like Murderers Row and all that was on Mark that went on that
• 1:25:58
  was Yeah, had a house there and he was a big tarpon fisherman like
• 1:26:01
  he's there's all of listening to the podcast called Founders, No I have not
• 1:26:06
  so good, so real quick, this guy decided he's going to do a
• 1:26:11
  podcast and read five hundred books, and they're at all they're all bios or
• 1:26:17
  autobiographical books about someone that either did amazing things like presidents or started companies,
• 1:26:25
  and you learn about how they so you basically don't have to read the book.
• 1:26:28
  You listen to the podcast and it's unbelievable, like there was a Thomas
• 1:26:31
  Edison one. Just if you're into that kind of stuff, like biographical history
• 1:26:36
  stuff, and you kind of don't really feel like reading five hundred books,
• 1:26:40
  then listen to the Founders podcast. Because it's really cool and if you're into
• 1:26:44
  if you're into like if you're like an entrepreneur and he's like starting companies,
• 1:26:48
  and it's a really good thing to listen to. Yeah, I was.
• 1:26:55
  I read a lot of non fiction ship that's you dig it? Yeah I
• 1:27:00
  do. Should we uh just talk about that little industry topic real quick.
• 1:27:05
  Yeah, let's just hit that the industry bubble's uh yeah, so uh,
• 1:27:10
  Flylords put out an article I guess a week ago maybe ten days ago,
• 1:27:15
  about the fly fishing bubble? Will it burst? And what does that mean?
• 1:27:21
  I think the article is more about sensatializing something just to get people roued
• 1:27:27
  up. Because maybe I'm not saying fly Lords need something because they're in a
• 1:27:31
  downward whatever. I think they just decided to do this article or the art
• 1:27:34
  the writer did because he saw since COVID there's been such an uptick in this
• 1:27:41
  industry and with outdoor. Yeah, but the whole idea is we're The whole
• 1:27:45
  idea of the article is we're on this incline right now, and all of
• 1:27:49
  a sudden it's just gonna nose die, which why, Yeah, there's gotta
• 1:27:54
  be a reason for this. So I'll just say my argument real quick,
• 1:27:57
  we can go around. My thing is, hell, yes, let's have
• 1:28:00
  all these people come in the industry. Let's have them buy all these fly
• 1:28:03
  odds, Let's have them love it, Let's have them do all this.
• 1:28:06
  You're gonna lose fifty percent of them they go onto the next thing. Are
• 1:28:10
  they going to go onto sailing or are they going to go on to whatever?
• 1:28:13
  And there's gonna be that low amount of people in the industry and you're
• 1:28:15
  not really going to see the needle moving that much. That will affect in
• 1:28:19
  a negative way the industry because they sold this just easy number. They sold
• 1:28:24
  a thousand rods that year, so they're only going to sell seven hundred and
• 1:28:28
  fifty the next year. It's just the whole idea that the bubble bursting in
• 1:28:32
  this industry has so many little bubbles to it that go up and down like
• 1:28:36
  river runs through. It was the first big one in the nineties and it
• 1:28:41
  had a down tick, but three years later there's another little uptick. There's
• 1:28:44
  all. Are they trying to say it has a reflection on the smaller businesses
• 1:28:49
  in the industry being powerful? In other words, are they trying to say
• 1:28:53
  that if the bubble bursts. Will we be those businesses? Well, we
• 1:28:57
  just go back to being having Reddington flyer eyes. No, I think it's
• 1:29:00
  more interesting idea. What are we gonna do all the It's just possibly it's
• 1:29:04
  the whole idea. Well, these businesses go out of business with all these
• 1:29:10
  people that loved it during COVIDA, But what are these people during COVID?
• 1:29:14
  Stick with it? We saw the biggest before COVID. Right, Well,
• 1:29:18
  so my my thing is my thing is those people went outside again. I
• 1:29:23
  think, I think. I think one of the things that you look at
• 1:29:27
  when when I was reading that article, and I read the article and it
• 1:29:29
  was it was a decent article. It's nothing crazy out of hand on that
• 1:29:32
  article. But then the the key thing that I took away from was when
• 1:29:35
  I started digging into the comments. And I know it can never never go
• 1:29:39
  into the comments, but the problem is like and and don't get me wrong,
• 1:29:42
  you can dig through this podcast and you can find a whole bunch of
• 1:29:45
  mad Mike rants about a whole lot of different things. I I am a
• 1:29:49
  bit of a curmudgeon when it comes to fly fishing in that I expect people
• 1:29:54
  to do things the right way and they yeah, And and the thing is
• 1:29:58
  like in my book, no matter what kind of technology is invented and what,
• 1:30:01
  no matter what kind of new ways of doing things, like there's a
• 1:30:03
  right way and a wrong way to do things and and and that does have
• 1:30:09
  to be adjusted sometimes with new technology and things like that, like are we
• 1:30:12
  crossing ethical boundaries? But when you read through those comments, like a lot
• 1:30:15
  of these guys will, oh, they're charging one thousand dollars for a fly
• 1:30:19
  rod? Now, how dare they? And yeah, and they're and they're
• 1:30:23
  they're a lot of guys, you know, these old salty or even maybe
• 1:30:26
  not that old salty, but well, let's say pre the bubble, uh,
• 1:30:30
  fly fishermen are complaining that the industry has taken advantage of this new bust
• 1:30:33
  to to overcharge for things and to and they're they're rooting for the failure of
• 1:30:38
  these big companies like the Sages and the orbses and the people know. And
• 1:30:44
  don't get me wrong, man, Like I'll tell you right now, when
• 1:30:45
  it comes to graphite fly rods, I feel like you can change the formula
• 1:30:50
  and you can change the rod. You're not you're not reinventing the wheel on
• 1:30:55
  anything. To this day, right now, the one piece g l X
• 1:30:59
  twelveweight flyer eye is the greatest invented. And it's not that these new technologies
• 1:31:04
  aren't good. It's not that a Helio's three, four, five, seven,
• 1:31:09
  how many ever they make, it's not a good rod that will catch
• 1:31:12
  fish and perform for you. It's just that you're not reinventing anything. But
• 1:31:15
  these are companies. These are companies that have to they want to make they
• 1:31:18
  have to end up. Yeah, they have to do things, and the
• 1:31:21
  prices, the prices are gonna go, Like, dude, have you looked
• 1:31:24
  at the grocery store or the gas or anything else? So the thing is
• 1:31:29
  like, so my, My whole takeaway from the article was I saw a
• 1:31:32
  lot of people really complaining about things that were just normal economics. They were
• 1:31:36
  just normal fucking things, and they were complaining because they thought that this influx
• 1:31:41
  of people was driving this and it's not the case. The influx of people
• 1:31:45
  is allowing these companies to continue to survive. Yes, I love if people
• 1:31:49
  are going to like, they're not going to go buy a Helio's five,
• 1:31:54
  They're not going to go buy a Sage X fifteen TFO. They're gonna get
• 1:32:00
  a CFO, they're gonna get a Reddington, They're gonna get something that's easier
• 1:32:02
  to get into the game in. And then I mean, like in two
• 1:32:08
  years, like when I started out, like your cast is gonna change because
• 1:32:11
  you're gonna get it figured out. You're gonna go in, You're gonna catch
• 1:32:13
  a few fish and be like, oh I got this tailing loop. I
• 1:32:15
  got this thing. And you get figured out, you get a lesson,
• 1:32:17
  You're casting improves, and you'd be like, ah, this runs a little
• 1:32:19
  slow for me, I can't cast it as well. You start to advance,
• 1:32:24
  and that's the fun part of the gear. That's why we love the
• 1:32:26
  sport. It's all these little stairstep gear moments that happen. It makes it
• 1:32:30
  fun well. And you know, like I look at like fly reels,
• 1:32:33
  uh, Chris and mustad great example like I got. I was very lucky
• 1:32:39
  a long time ago. I was in Miami. Just happened to be in
• 1:32:41
  Miami for whatever reason, and we were supposed to be fishing and we had
• 1:32:45
  a bad day wind or something or other, and me and my buddy were
• 1:32:48
  like, what we're gonna do? And I texted Kristen and I was like,
• 1:32:51
  hey, man, you guys working today, and they're like yeah,
• 1:32:55
  And we got to go over and hang out at the Nautilus factory for the
• 1:32:58
  like for the afternoon, and he walked us around and we talked reels and
• 1:33:01
  we talked shit, and we sat in Christen's office at the matisfactory and just
• 1:33:04
  bullshit it all day about bow hunting and all kinds of weird stuff. It
• 1:33:08
  was one of the coolest little like side trips I ever took in my life.
• 1:33:10
  It was worth it. But that guy, you know, he if
• 1:33:15
  you look at Nautilus's stuff, they've changed their stuff a few times over the
• 1:33:17
  years, but their stuff really hasn't changed that much. And you know,
• 1:33:21
  and that's because the guy that's driving the ship, Christen's like, look,
• 1:33:25
  man, this is as much he's a he's a machinist and he's a he's
• 1:33:30
  an engineer. He's like, this is as much drag and torque and that
• 1:33:33
  I can get out of the parameters that are allowed to me on a fly
• 1:33:39
  reel. I can't. I can't do anymore than the Yeah. So like
• 1:33:43
  there's a point and fly rods with graphite until you find a different material other
• 1:33:46
  than graphite, which people have tried carbon fire with, try of things,
• 1:33:48
  but really graphite has proven to be you know, sage for a while lined
• 1:33:53
  up the fibers instead of cross hatching them in order to get linear strength versus
• 1:33:58
  whatever, and that There's been all kinds of Yeah, there's been all kinds
• 1:34:00
  of different things that have been changed on this weekend. But unless you unless
• 1:34:04
  you like, change the material, you change the the engineering specs on what
• 1:34:11
  you're doing. You can't change the outcome, right. You can change the
• 1:34:15
  formula, can change how it reacts to certain things. And some of them
• 1:34:16
  are gonna be winners, some of them are gonna be losers. We used
• 1:34:19
  to spend how many hours at the shop just casting rods and not not bragging
• 1:34:26
  about you know, I'm not I don't cast as well as I used to.
• 1:34:29
  I really don't because I don't practice so much usue. But I spent
• 1:34:30
  an hour two hours a day casting rods, and you could feel those differences.
• 1:34:35
  But the average Joe, the average guy, the average dude in that
• 1:34:38
  comment field, couldn't pick up six of those rods and tell you a difference
• 1:34:42
  between one and the other. Now one of the other is gonna cast better
• 1:34:44
  for that guy because his his particular stroke is the way he applies power,
• 1:34:48
  the way where he puts the power, where he puts a stop is going
• 1:34:51
  to react better to that combination. But he's going to continue to change through
• 1:34:56
  life. Yeah, and it will, and that's why I would. But
• 1:35:00
  what we always sold on was you buy the best reel that you can afford,
• 1:35:04
  because that reel is going to last you if you take care of it.
• 1:35:08
  Yeah. Right, So, especially like Anolist, make that investment.
• 1:35:12
  Look at it as a capital purchase. Get the rod that fits your casting
• 1:35:15
  needs now, yeah, because again, maybe that stays the same and you're
• 1:35:20
  good with the mid flex or Dude, I've got kind of like I don't
• 1:35:28
  buy anything but Natilus. I will. I will go without a reel until
• 1:35:31
  I can afford to pay. And part of it is I know Kristen and
• 1:35:35
  he's a buddy and I call him but he don't probably rememory at all,
• 1:35:40
  but me and him have had a lot of conversations over the years. But
• 1:35:43
  the thing is like I have a personal connection with that company, and I
• 1:35:45
  know, like Tucker said, if I take care of that reel, and
• 1:35:48
  I boy, I have four that I take I'll never need another reel.
• 1:35:54
  I've changed the rods on multiple those reels were taking real sponsorships, by the
• 1:35:58
  way. I got for Ross reels, but my great they changed, They're
• 1:36:04
  great. I got their their old Big Game series. The only thing I
• 1:36:12
  didn't like about the old BGS was that plastic plastic, but that's when they
• 1:36:15
  went to the carbon power thing. Yeah, but but no. The last
• 1:36:19
  reel that I got was a Silver King from the Batist and just kind of
• 1:36:24
  like, I don't know something about him is kind of like I mean,
• 1:36:27
  Ross is great. Ross never done me wrong, never had an issue with
• 1:36:30
  it, but it kind of kicks out, Yeah, one of my sorry,
• 1:36:35
  no, no, you're fine. And when I sat down with Christen,
• 1:36:38
  like you know, he was he never talked about anybody really, but
• 1:36:41
  he was like he's like, you know he was. We were talking about
• 1:36:43
  different reels, right, We were talking about like the drag systems, because
• 1:36:45
  all right, we're gonna a real quick dive here. So you got multiple
• 1:36:48
  different styles of drag systems on on saltwater fly reels, and the general way
• 1:36:54
  you do that is like the old BGS did a modified what really was a
• 1:36:58
  modified clicking Paul right, you had a a poly ring that linked into a
• 1:37:01
  gear that was then into a stacked drag system. Right, so you have
• 1:37:05
  a cone that has stacked plates that are interspace between some sort of heat dissipating
• 1:37:11
  material, which could be carbon fiber, it could be plastic. If you
• 1:37:15
  buy a hatch, I hate to tell you this, but your real drag
• 1:37:16
  is made out of plastic. Sage did the same thing with theirs. They
• 1:37:21
  took some plastic I forget the name of the type of plastic these. Radon
• 1:37:27
  is a type of plastic. And then so you have that. Then you
• 1:37:30
  had what Christen did, which was he created a disc brake system. In
• 1:37:33
  the old CCS, they don't do that anymore, but they still use a
• 1:37:38
  carbon fiber pressures some So the ables and the tea boards of the world use
• 1:37:44
  a pressure plate system. Right, so you have a spring that applies pressure
• 1:37:47
  to a cork plate. Basically, the spool spins against a greased cork and
• 1:37:53
  the spring in the middle applies pressure at whatever degree. You want. Now,
• 1:37:58
  the downside of this it takes but a maintenance. If you let that
• 1:38:00
  cork dry out, it's gonna problem. You have to maintain them a little
• 1:38:04
  bit. But they can last forever able to the same thing. They have
• 1:38:08
  almost identical drag systems. The only difference between Able and t Boar is able.
• 1:38:12
  Uh, you can look at the machinists. So T Boar wear Ted
• 1:38:14
  Jurassic. Ted Jurassic was a machinist and his were kind of bulkier, heavier
• 1:38:18
  frames. The guy that found it able, I can't remember his name off
• 1:38:21
  the top of my head right now. Yeah, Mike whoever. So anyway,
• 1:38:28
  he came from the drag racing world and so he saw the T Boars
• 1:38:30
  like, that's a pretty clutch fucking real But I can make it lighter and
• 1:38:33
  I can make it more manageable. So from drag racing, of course,
• 1:38:36
  they removed as much illumine as they could. That's why you see all the
• 1:38:39
  porting on an Able versus T board has a subtle and back frame. So
• 1:38:44
  you have these kind of concepts. But then you get somebody like they weren't
• 1:38:47
  but they got that way. Ables Able's concept was I want to make it
• 1:38:51
  lighter. I want to make it lighter, and I want to make it
• 1:38:54
  as durable, and well, yeah, that's a tank. But that was
• 1:39:00
  an anti reverse deal that Billy Pate wanted because he didn't like the he didn't
• 1:39:03
  like the free spinning handle. He wanted to be able to hold the handle
• 1:39:06
  and let it do its whole thing. But then you get t War.
• 1:39:10
  They start coming in with disc brake systems like you would see on cars and
• 1:39:13
  things like that, and then they kind of converted to a different thing.
• 1:39:15
  Then you got Sage and you've got Initially, Sage was the first one to
• 1:39:21
  bring in the stacked drag what we see a lot of now where you have
• 1:39:26
  stacked plates alternating and they alternate rotation so that you get friction. I hate
• 1:39:30
  to say this out loud, but honestly, I'm just gonna say it because
• 1:39:33
  it's fact. Hatch Carbon copied Sage's drag system and then did Nautilus's frame styling
• 1:39:39
  and created a new company. No offense to Hatch. They're good reels.
• 1:39:43
  It's just they didn't really invent anything. They just kind of took some good
• 1:39:45
  concepts and put them together and had a good marketing compound. Yeah they did.
• 1:39:49
  And so the thing is, like, what I'm getting at here is
• 1:39:56
  kind of like Kmart and Walmot. What I'm getting at here is is,
• 1:40:00
  look, man, there's a lot of great gear out there. It costs
• 1:40:02
  money. It is what it is, but the industry is not. It's
• 1:40:06
  not in a bubble. I don't see a bubble. I see I see
• 1:40:10
  extra funding that's come in for more people coming in. I'd like to just
• 1:40:15
  I got way, then off I went away. I went away. What
• 1:40:19
  we were talking about. I know, I'm literally I'm sorry. I realized
• 1:40:23
  about halfway. I'm like, ship, I derailed way too far. You
• 1:40:27
  know that I used to tear these things apart. So I tore these things
• 1:40:30
  apart for years. I love them. There's one thought process that I got
• 1:40:33
  from the whole thing, and it was one of the comments. And if
• 1:40:36
  you guys dive in, if you guys dive into the Flyer fly Lords article,
• 1:40:41
  you'll see it. But the comment that struck me was this guy that
• 1:40:45
  said, oh, yeah, I was on the water the other day and
• 1:40:48
  saw some dude waiting with the brand new pattygun, new waiters, brand new
• 1:40:51
  rod, brand new real, brand new boots, brand new hat, brand
• 1:40:56
  new fanny peg. I was like, yeah, these are the kind of
• 1:40:59
  guys we have to deal with. What's wrong with that? So my thought
• 1:41:01
  process, okay, I used to say that to some degree, I'd be
• 1:41:04
  like a problem with that. So it's the upper echelon of like, oh,
• 1:41:09
  you've you've graduated to not caring what your gear looks like that guy wanted
• 1:41:14
  to the problem is, if it wasn't for that guy I needed, I
• 1:41:18
  should have commented your flash your local flash shop wouldn't be in business. In
• 1:41:24
  front of the point that it wasn't that that guy runs the economy. That
• 1:41:30
  guy is creating a flash shop. That and I sat there and I read
• 1:41:33
  it, I thought of that mind that mine just I guess the point of
• 1:41:40
  what I'm trying to make is that I go to Rivers and going here locally,
• 1:41:43
  I don't buy ship. I don't need ship. I've got everything I
• 1:41:46
  need. I bullshit that guy would the brand new stuff guy. He gives
• 1:41:53
  me the ability to go to a place to not need ship to have.
• 1:41:57
  That's exactly that guy. I used to bract. I used to kind of
• 1:42:00
  dig on those kind of guys that are showed up with their because that was
• 1:42:03
  my twenty five year old elitist, like, I think it's so cool.
• 1:42:08
  I love those guys one night when I see it, but now when I
• 1:42:10
  see him, we need those guys. I love them. We need mister
• 1:42:13
  COVID guy that bought all that stuff. And that's that's where our industry are
• 1:42:17
  even even to the the are we in a bubble? Are there going to
• 1:42:21
  be companies that are going to come and go? Yeah? Always, I
• 1:42:27
  mean that's that's that's business. That's every that's every will continue to thrive.
• 1:42:34
  How many new apparel shops came in since twenty twenty that won't be I thought
• 1:42:40
  it was like a cat coming in or something. Why would there be a
• 1:42:42
  cat bosom, solid door if that cat's coming through here dead well? So
• 1:42:49
  anyway, So so my take, I think always going to be ups and
• 1:42:54
  downs. Yeah, and I think our take on this thing is all kind
• 1:42:56
  of the same, is is that? Yes, Like when we worked at
• 1:42:59
  fly shops, you know, the guy I hated, I didn't hate the
• 1:43:00
  guy that brought the new ship and whatnot. I tried to take my time
• 1:43:04
  to educate that person to make sure that they were a good addition to our
• 1:43:08
  community that was going to be fishing around me. I tried to make sure
• 1:43:11
  that they understood, you know, how to do things the right way.
• 1:43:13
  But the guy I hated was the guy that came in and tried all of
• 1:43:17
  our rods and tried the reels, and then went and then bought it online
• 1:43:21
  from Jimmy, Joe, Bob, and then would come back in and have
• 1:43:26
  me put the line in the backing and rig all the ship and tie the
• 1:43:29
  knots because he didn't know how to tie knots. That guy, that guy
• 1:43:32
  could go fuck himself. Yeah. So if you want to, if you
• 1:43:35
  want to like talk about the enemy of fly fishing, it's the guy that
• 1:43:39
  doesn't support his local shop. If you want to go into a local shop
• 1:43:42
  and buy whole new outfit, go do it, but buy it at your
• 1:43:45
  local shop. If you pay ten percent more to buy the local shop,
• 1:43:47
  you have invested one hundred percent more into Georgia. Well, yeah, there's
• 1:43:54
  exception, but if you have one, don't use the fly shop as you're
• 1:43:57
  testing ground and your main worse of of support and then not support them to
• 1:44:01
  your point. You're not gonna get fifty off. No. But the other
• 1:44:09
  thing is is that if you invest in that flash up, that flashup will
• 1:44:12
  invest with you. When you walk in and be like, hey, I'm
• 1:44:15
  buying this map, I'm not really sure where to go, and they'll be
• 1:44:17
  like about all your other ship from us too. Let me give you some
• 1:44:23
  spots like I got two words hambling, great baby baby, Well, and
• 1:44:31
  you know what that that is true. We will give you the most known
• 1:44:35
  spots. But that's just etiquette, baby, that ain't nothing. But you
• 1:44:39
  know what you learn, Yeah, there's fish there. But you know what
• 1:44:41
  you'll learn when you go to Hamling Sound and you notice there's a lot of
• 1:44:44
  boats there. But you're gonna see the terrain where you sent you to.
• 1:44:45
  And if you're a smart person, you'll say, Okay, where else does
• 1:44:49
  what else looks like this? Where else? Can I look on this map
• 1:44:53
  that looks similar to this Larning point? Yeah? But the thing is like,
• 1:44:57
  look, man, you can't bitch about You can't bitch about something that
• 1:45:01
  supports the thing that you love. Right. Yes, we're always gonna have
• 1:45:05
  new guys coming in that have more money than you. That's just the reality.
• 1:45:10
  And those guys are gonna buy the new gear and they're gonna buy the
• 1:45:12
  things, but they keep the rivers and glens of the world up. And
• 1:45:14
  I think, what we what we need? And I gotta get better about
• 1:45:18
  this myself. Honestly, is I gotta be more up to date with like
• 1:45:24
  what's going on in the Everglades. Pebble mind's dead, Yeah, but like
• 1:45:27
  there's always going to be that next Keep up, Captain. That's what we
• 1:45:34
  need, the new people coming in and investing to be like this at exactly
• 1:45:40
  understanding. Yeah, And I as much as I've read on this thing,
• 1:45:44
  I still have questions. I still kind of don't understand something. Have you
• 1:45:46
  read the swamp we're just talking about. Got It gives you the whole history
• 1:45:54
  of all they've changed the water flow. Yeah, and I understand it.
• 1:46:00
  Yeah, read the swamp. It goes so deep into the history and the
• 1:46:02
  politics that cause the problem we're in and where we are. How long trying
• 1:46:09
  Oh my god, there's been a lot of big dollars that they have put
• 1:46:14
  into over the period of decades whatever, trying to drain it to make it
• 1:46:18
  habitable. You didn't even be like the five people before. You couldn't do
• 1:46:24
  it, just like just go somewhere else. Yeah, Yeah, that would
• 1:46:29
  come back. We're gonna get the stand. We're gonna see a little cases
• 1:46:32
  too. Yeah, cases you ready for that. Let's do two bins.
• 1:46:39
  Let's do two bins. We gotta catch up all the Hey I'm Ben,
• 1:46:45
  I'm a huge fly fisherman. I don't think coon claw powder is a real
• 1:46:48
  thing that one. Yeah, Hey I'm Ben, I'm a huge fly fisherman.
• 1:46:57
  You're listening to the Barely Live fly Fish podcast. Riding Larry Latrelle's coattails
• 1:47:01
  since twenty fifteen, the highest Ben we started before Larry. Thanks Ben.
• 1:47:12
  But let's look at that again in slow motion. Yes, Ford gets gas
• 1:47:16
  minage ratings this high a new high for full highs pickups. Buff. It's
• 1:47:20
  built up with twin ibeams suspension, so catch it eighty three board for yourself.
• 1:47:27
  It's down to worth tough. Now get special low financing during Ford summer
• 1:47:32
  cell down. Hey Doug you ready? No, Ben, I'm a huge
• 1:47:40
  fly fisherman. I tried watching Paul on Silver Kinks, but it was really
• 1:47:45
  just a twenty minute ad for Maverick Boat Group. Thanks Ben, Thank you.
• 1:47:55
  I don't know that I can save it into that I did. Can
• 1:48:00
  we talk about you talk about that? Yeah? I mean you were on
• 1:48:05
  silver Yeah, I mean like no offense, but none of us have been
• 1:48:12
  on Silver Kings. You just with Jared right, yeah, Rascal himself,
• 1:48:17
  I do like just having I just want a picture of Tucker. I just
• 1:48:23
  want Tucker and Jared just standing side by side and it's almost the same person.
• 1:48:29
  Yeah, like that's a full grown Yetti. I mean, I had
• 1:48:31
  no idea Jerr was that big. Like he walked around the corner of the
• 1:48:34
  drive. Oh so it was a silhouette. I'm like, you have been
• 1:48:39
  driving for twenty seven I was hundred hours ripped on whatever. I forget what
• 1:48:44
  they're called. Yeah, so I refer to Tucker and the Keys as my
• 1:48:47
  uh my pirate deternent, but also like he's also my my keys guide deterrent.
• 1:48:54
  Yeah, like we only got it. I've only ever been approached.
• 1:48:57
  Yeah, we've only ever been approached by one one guy whoever got mad at
• 1:49:01
  us. And we were fishing. I'm gonna I'm gonna pull a millhouse here.
• 1:49:05
  I'm not gonna say the spot. But we were fishing a very famous
• 1:49:09
  drainage on the west coast of Florida, and me and Tucker were fishing in
• 1:49:14
  tight. This guy was fishing out wide on this line that tarpin' sometimes like
• 1:49:17
  to be on a men. Tucker caught tarping out there on that line too,
• 1:49:20
  so we know that, but this guy's three hundred yards down, all
• 1:49:25
  right, And so imagine a little bay, like a little basin. Me
• 1:49:28
  and Tucker on the inside. This guy's out on the outer edge, like
• 1:49:30
  if you were to draw a line from one edge of the line of the
• 1:49:32
  land where it before it cuts into the basin. And so I'm at idle
• 1:49:38
  speed in my fucking fourteen foot John boat, basically with the twenty five horsepower
• 1:49:44
  motor. At idle. Me and Tucker are just sipping beers. And we
• 1:49:46
  idled all the way out about three hundred plus yards in front of this guy
• 1:49:50
  to where we could get out to open water before we fired it up and
• 1:49:53
  started running up the coast. So we get i don't know, half a
• 1:49:58
  mile up the coast, and all of a sudden, I hear a motor
• 1:50:00
  and in like my my left ear, like I can hear another engine.
• 1:50:03
  I'm like, oh, you know, we're in the middle of nowhere.
• 1:50:05
  So I'm like, that's odd. So I turned look at my shoulder and
• 1:50:08
  here's this maverick bearing down on me like tight quarters. I'm like okay,
• 1:50:12
  and the guy driving it's waving like slow down, slow down, so down.
• 1:50:15
  I'm like shit, al right, cool, So I'm back, like,
• 1:50:17
  all right, maybe something something bad happened. He needs help, We
• 1:50:20
  need help. We lost something, something flew off the boat. I didn't
• 1:50:24
  see whatever, So back off. And Tucker's sitting on a cooler in in
• 1:50:27
  the middle of the boat and I'm sitting on the back and we back off,
• 1:50:30
  and this guy comes up and he starts yelling at us. Uh.
• 1:50:31
  He had a very New Yorky yah about how we cut him off. And
• 1:50:36
  when you're fishing poon in this this area, like they'll lay up and you
• 1:50:41
  can't go. He said, poon a lot. Yeah, And as so
• 1:50:47
  his his sport is sitting on the cooler in front of the console, like
• 1:50:50
  facing the floor, like looking down, not looking up, has his buffalo,
• 1:50:55
  not making eye contact with us. All the guy's yelling at us and
• 1:50:58
  and he said something along the lines of like we drove fifty miles to get
• 1:51:01
  him in. He literally had like a New Jersey accident. It was very
• 1:51:04
  thick, and he's like, we drove fifty miles to get him in.
• 1:51:08
  You see somebody fishing poon at the blank spot, you gotta go round blah
• 1:51:13
  blah blah blah blah blah, and all Tucker. Tucker just like is looking
• 1:51:15
  over his shoulder the whole time and just stands up getting he started getting a
• 1:51:19
  little ir Yeah, he started getting like he was gonna like try to do
• 1:51:21
  something bout it. No, at no point did I feel like I was
• 1:51:26
  out of line at all. This guy, what he was doing was trying
• 1:51:29
  to blame his shitty decision to run up there on that particular day on us
• 1:51:32
  ruining his fishing. And so Tucker has been like looking over his shoulder,
• 1:51:36
  listen to this guy talking, and Tuck just stands up and like turns around.
• 1:51:40
  And this guy's entire body language. I mean, you see this like
• 1:51:44
  curtain come down. He's like, ah fuck. I'm like I was like,
• 1:51:46
  I was like, and I just I'm watching him, you know,
• 1:51:48
  I'm I actually think of himself as I'm a big guy dude. But I'm
• 1:51:51
  sitting there with the tailor handle under my arm pit, and I'm just like,
• 1:51:56
  I'm just looking at this guy, and I'm like, if I just
• 1:51:58
  nudge this thing a little bit to I could just let Tucker board this motherfucker
• 1:52:01
  and just break everything in his boat. Oh yeah, he was. He
• 1:52:05
  was at the wall there just yelling at him, and when Tucker stood up,
• 1:52:09
  that guy was like the guy literally goes from like literally demanding, like
• 1:52:13
  like talking down to us. He literally goes mid sentence, he's like,
• 1:52:15
  you say, next time you see somebody fishing pooing it, so just you
• 1:52:21
  know, think about it next time, right, like you know, just
• 1:52:25
  being yeah, and he like went to like apologetic mode. And then it
• 1:52:29
  was like and it powered off with his boat and I was like, we
• 1:52:31
  drove fifty miles And I'm like, how do you think we got here?
• 1:52:35
  Like I wor fifty miles from everywhere? Like do you think I got here
• 1:52:39
  by accident? Did I teleport in? Like you drove further somehow to get
• 1:52:43
  to the same spot that I'm like, but yeah, that's that's what I
• 1:52:46
  love about having Tucker in the boat. Like I don't have to talk shit.
• 1:52:48
  I don't want to say. I'm not a little guy. I mean
• 1:52:50
  I'm not a small person. No, I don't know. He was on
• 1:52:56
  the sport, was on a he had a he had a console with a
• 1:53:00
  jumpsy you know, like funny if you ran him down again and said listen,
• 1:53:03
  I just have a chance to ask borrow some beer. Actually, hey,
• 1:53:11
  yeah, come back, we're out of beer. Yeah, that's the
• 1:53:14
  only time I've ever been yelled at by anything, because to be to be
• 1:53:17
  one hundred percent fair, Like me and Tucker are hyper hyper aware. I
• 1:53:21
  think we are well because I'm very aware that I don't always understand exactly how
• 1:53:30
  I come in come out, and I give I give myself, I give
• 1:53:32
  everybody around me so much leeway because I don't want to be that dude.
• 1:53:36
  And so this was like, it was comical to me. We were in
• 1:53:39
  the middle of but this guy was like, Okay, he's polling in eight
• 1:53:44
  to nine feet of water. It's a big deep water, and he's like
• 1:53:47
  the boon will lay up in here and you can sy cast him. We
• 1:53:51
  were like, oh, thank you. Yeah, that's good to know.
• 1:53:55
  But how many weeks did we spend like a total over periods of time did
• 1:54:00
  we spind there? I never once saw the only time we really yeah,
• 1:54:04
  we were we were fishing inside, like on the bars, we were finding
• 1:54:08
  tons of fish laid up and fact the reason we were in there was because
• 1:54:11
  we had found laid up fish up inside. He was way outside of like,
• 1:54:15
  yeah, we were on the West coast, and so the one time
• 1:54:18
  we fished. Well, we've caught a couple of fish out there on his
• 1:54:20
  line, but they've always been rolling and traveling north and south. And yeah,
• 1:54:26
  you will get on and you'll be out and eight feet of water and
• 1:54:29
  there's a million fish out there, I mean ship we had one morning.
• 1:54:30
  I don't know how many we hooked or jump. It was a lot.
• 1:54:33
  But like at one point I looked south and I looked north, and as
• 1:54:36
  far as I could see in any other direction, the water was boiling with
• 1:54:40
  tarping, I mean talking miles of Wait. Wait, this would have been
• 1:54:45
  great when he rolled up and started screaming. If Mike was on throttle had
• 1:54:50
  looked at Tucker and gone like, sign language this that's what I'm doing from
• 1:55:04
  now. Oh god, that's hilarious. No, I've turned the mic.
• 1:55:11
  Oh never mind, and the like yeah, yeah, I just I just
• 1:55:18
  gave a hope from the back. So I heard a comedian on Instagram.
• 1:55:25
  I can't remember who it was, but this is not my original bit,
• 1:55:28
  but he is talking about he's at a grocery store and like this, he's
• 1:55:31
  got like three items to this lady with a shopping cart full just like cuts
• 1:55:35
  him off in line. And she was like, you need to go back
• 1:55:39
  to your country, you know whatever, just like going off on him,
• 1:55:43
  and he was like, I'm sorry, and and she told him prior to
• 1:55:54
  be like, you know, how fun. But then I'm sorry, and
• 1:55:59
  she like paid for grocery and then they get out into the parking lot and
• 1:56:03
  she's like, I want to tell you I'm very sorry, and he goes,
• 1:56:11
  how fucking stupid are you? Oh my lord? Oh yeah, that's
• 1:56:20
  a great thing to remember if yeah, oh that would be hilarious. I
• 1:56:25
  just remember being confused because at first, I like I already thought he was
• 1:56:27
  coming up to like had something, because we really were like we're in a
• 1:56:30
  point where we were at a place where if something went wrong on your boat
• 1:56:34
  or something was going wrong you were you were in trouble, like you needed
• 1:56:38
  help and it was only gonna come be a helicopter or something. So like
• 1:56:42
  I really was like I backed off, like, oh shit, this guy's
• 1:56:44
  got something going on. And then it was just him wanting to be a
• 1:56:46
  douche. And I was like, and we were the only how long did
• 1:56:49
  you backtrack in your brain there? What did I do wrong? Or like
• 1:56:53
  about ten seconds? Because I was like I didn't get anywhere near this guy
• 1:56:56
  and had I ran over a fish that he was looking to fish somewhere in
• 1:57:00
  the next hour that it took him to pole eight feet of water that far.
• 1:57:03
  You ain't pulling fast. Yeah, so like those fish would have moved
• 1:57:08
  out of the way and come right back up. Like I don't make no
• 1:57:10
  where you are. It was just and and I want you to think about
• 1:57:15
  this, dude. We were the only two boats within thirty miles of there,
• 1:57:18
  Like, I don't see an There was nobody else out there. There
• 1:57:20
  are days where it's busier, but there was nobody out there that getting the
• 1:57:24
  text that stands out there right now. But just just just to go quick,
• 1:57:29
  Silver Kings, look up YouTube. You can just YouTube Silver Kings Pucket.
• 1:57:34
  It's a good one. It actually is a really good episode. I've
• 1:57:38
  watched a lot of this season. I have to say, you're had a
• 1:57:40
  good time yours in Flounders on that flounders funny but you and flounder and Finder
• 1:57:45
  even gives you a shout out on his like it's just funny. Paul Bucket
• 1:57:47
  paint, I catch fish. You can catch fish too, Yeah, but
• 1:57:56
  no, those are the two best episodes out there. We had a blast
• 1:58:00
  converging there, uh and doing it was It was a lot of fun.
• 1:58:02
  And Jared Rascal if you're listening, you know, if you just need somebody
• 1:58:04
  to get on there, you know, just I don't know. I love
• 1:58:06
  how. I love how Jared though made like and he came all the way
• 1:58:10
  here. I'm like, no one would have missed that. No, Like,
• 1:58:14
  Yes, my flight got canceled. Yes, I got screwed around little
• 1:58:16
  bit. I got in that damn van and I cooked it downtown and drove
• 1:58:20
  from Sun Valley. Yeah, he's such a good guy. He came all
• 1:58:25
  the way here. I tell you, I'll tell you what I tell you.
• 1:58:27
  You call me. I will come all the way there right now,
• 1:58:30
  and I will give you so many useless soundbites as you'll have the whole season
• 1:58:32
  full of jogging. I will get there by next skateboarding A stand is dam
• 1:58:42
  Yeah, hey staying, what's up? Buddy? Hey? How are you
• 1:58:48
  man? Man? Yeah, hey dude, hey meet you do good to
• 1:58:59
  uh good to have you on this podcast. Tucker. Well, we don't
• 1:59:02
  know each other, but a right, I think you found Mic. Yeah,
• 1:59:06
  yeah, you reached out to Mic right to be on this. Yeah,
• 1:59:10
  but the when he was talking about going to Louisiana, you know,
• 1:59:12
  I happened to be down there for a couple of weeks doing my thing and
• 1:59:15
  reached out to him to see if he'd be interested in I don't know,
• 1:59:18
  fishing or what and what fishing, you know, that's what I do,
• 1:59:23
  man, fish. So you're you're fishing out of Louisiana like full time?
• 1:59:29
  No, man, I don't. I don't full time. I part full
• 1:59:32
  time guy though, right yeah, I'm full time guide, part time resident
• 1:59:36
  man. You know, like I'm a bit of a wanderer, lost soul
• 1:59:42
  where you wander, just like you know, sometimes the wind blows and I
• 1:59:47
  find myself in places. So you're here right now? What are you doing
• 1:59:50
  right now? Guiding? Yeah? Always, I'm always guiding, Like I've
• 1:59:54
  got four and a half days booked and then I'm gonna head further south like
• 1:59:59
  beafort No, like the keys, you know, it's about time to start,
• 2:00:03
  you know, guide scouting. I mean looking around for see where the
• 2:00:08
  fish are. So how do you keep like tabs on the for the fish?
• 2:00:14
  Because how long are you gonna be in the keys? For the internet.
• 2:00:15
  It's a beautiful thing. Man. You know like Google maps, Google
• 2:00:18
  maps, you know, binoculars, Instagram posts, binoculars, binocular You ever
• 2:00:25
  try to triangulate someone's position based off of a photograph, and you know,
• 2:00:30
  it's a funny thing. Man. One of the biggest lessons I took from
• 2:00:32
  C school and I got my six pack like two years ago, was that
• 2:00:36
  like if you take wa wait you got six pack? How long you been
• 2:00:39
  guiding for again? Like three years? You know, six two years?
• 2:00:45
  But you know, triangulation is a big part of passing the test. Man.
• 2:00:48
  They give you a map, they say, oh, you can see
• 2:00:50
  this light at this degree, and you can see that light, and you
• 2:00:54
  gotta where are you at? You know, like instagram, Man, a
• 2:00:56
  little triangulation, you can kind of you can kind of zone in, you
• 2:01:00
  know, you can get it closed. Yeah, you get close enough to
• 2:01:03
  be able to peep them with some knocks, you know, like it's it's
• 2:01:06
  pretty good. I've got an ant that live was in Tennessee, fish the
• 2:01:13
  Holton a lot and she when I told her what we're doing, We're doing
• 2:01:15
  podcast, she asked what guests I have on I said, stand something because
• 2:01:18
  I haven't met you. Yeah, she said, she took a guy a
• 2:01:20
  trip with a due name stand on the Holston River. Is that you I've
• 2:01:25
  done? I've done some Holston. Yeah, I've done done some Wataga and
• 2:01:29
  some holes in a couple of days here and there, you know, every
• 2:01:30
  once in a while, just you know, just when you're kind of going
• 2:01:33
  back, just breezing through, just breezing through. You know, I've got
• 2:01:35
  a double trailer, you know, flats boat with a drift boat towing behind
• 2:01:40
  it. You know, like double trail. You know just where double Hall
• 2:01:45
  got the Toyota Tacoma with the camper. Man, you know, I sleep
• 2:01:47
  in the camper and tow the toe the toe of the tools. You know,
• 2:01:50
  man, you got to have the tools with you. So where else?
• 2:01:54
  Like do you have like a rotation that you go in the seat?
• 2:01:57
  Like are you just did you ever make it up to the great you know?
• 2:02:00
  Like typically yeah? Like uh so like it ranges, uh you know,
• 2:02:06
  late summer, like to be in the Montana, Wyoming, Idaho,
• 2:02:11
  Colorado, oh Utah area, the four corner. That's a lot that area.
• 2:02:16
  File uh fall fall, I go up through the Great Lakes, you
• 2:02:20
  know, like you gotta have the the all the great lakes, you know,
• 2:02:24
  what I mean, like Michigan up. You gotta do some Canada stuff,
• 2:02:28
  man, Visas are important. And then uh, you know, come
• 2:02:30
  winter time, I find myself down the Gulf coast, you know, like
• 2:02:33
  a little Texas, a little toss if you will, a little little Louisiana,
• 2:02:39
  little a little that, little of this. And then you know,
• 2:02:41
  I do like three and a half days in Charleston every year and then work
• 2:02:45
  my way down and wait, wait you drive from where to come three days
• 2:02:53
  and Charleston look, man, like you gotta be come like I don't come
• 2:02:57
  from anywhere, you know, like I always going. I just am in
• 2:03:01
  motion and perpetual motion. Transient they call me. They called me stand the
• 2:03:08
  tran. Yeah, is that for any other reason? No, man,
• 2:03:20
  I was down the keys one time. I was hanging out with the lower
• 2:03:24
  line, you know, doing the thing, having the thing, and next
• 2:03:27
  thing I turned around and and you know, and and and there's Rob Fordy's,
• 2:03:31
  you know, big guy up at the bar having a good time.
• 2:03:34
  He was like, oh, there's that training right there. Oh stand the
• 2:03:36
  train. Yeah, And so they just stuck and you take it like anytime
• 2:03:43
  somebody was like Fordes gives you a nickname, you just you keep it for
• 2:03:46
  you keep it. Yeah, that's his name. Don't be a cog in
• 2:03:49
  the wheel, bro, No, you I'm assuming you're not. Really you
• 2:03:53
  don't have really a lot of guide friends though. Yeah, it's hard to
• 2:03:57
  have. Like, you know, I got a lot ofknesses, you know,
• 2:04:00
  Like I know a lot of guys like you and probably them. Yeah,
• 2:04:04
  like I'm I'm intimately aware of their fishing styles. You know, you
• 2:04:10
  study them. We study these guys, right, you know, but like
• 2:04:13
  as far as like hanging out and stuff, you know, I'm around,
• 2:04:16
  but you know it may not be in how many tires have you had deflated
• 2:04:20
  back at the ramp, dud? It's so weird. Like I think it's
• 2:04:24
  something to do with the truck I bought. I just the Yeah, it's
• 2:04:29
  just most of the humidity or something. You've got a lot of flat tires.
• 2:04:32
  Yeah, I keep a generator and like a a compressor in the background
• 2:04:39
  in the back of the truck. In the old yoke man, you know,
• 2:04:41
  you got to keep all the tools of the trade, you know,
• 2:04:44
  did you get rid of the letters and just says Yoda on your on your
• 2:04:48
  Yoda guys, how did you get most of your clients the internet. Man,
• 2:04:53
  it's just like, you know, everybody wants a good time. With
• 2:04:57
  the broad range of fishing that you do, you must have some some brand
• 2:05:01
  loyalty. Yeah, I'm open. I'm open to some partnerships. Man,
• 2:05:06
  who do you your embass ambassadors? Yeah, Moonshine Rods is a big one,
• 2:05:12
  you know. Like those guys are really cool to me. They keep
• 2:05:15
  giving me. I mean I break a lot of their rods. I don't
• 2:05:17
  know if that's me or like it matters to you. They give me new
• 2:05:20
  ones, man, and they're trying a lot of new stuff. Yeah.
• 2:05:23
  And there's there's some really cool companies coming out of China now that make some
• 2:05:26
  stuff that's pretty close to the real thing, you know, like this guy's
• 2:05:31
  and they do a good job. Man. You know it's all those Africa
• 2:05:34
  flies like twelve dozen look for five bucks the way I see it, man,
• 2:05:40
  Like it's like the all the fly ships, bro, Like why would
• 2:05:43
  I why would I spend the money? If you know, I mean I'm
• 2:05:45
  only gonna be there for like a week, right, Like I'm not gonna
• 2:05:48
  try to have high quality flies, And who has time? I can't learn
• 2:05:53
  all those patterns, man, it's like too much. That's sorry. This
• 2:05:56
  Doug's old monia, right, Yeah, he's been walking the monia is what
• 2:05:59
  he's saying. What it used to be old. Yeah again you've been to
• 2:06:06
  you've forgotten an old guinea, Old Guinea man. Yeah, this this real
• 2:06:11
  weird. Good dude came and he fished with me one time. Man,
• 2:06:14
  his name was I don't know, it was like Vander Snotter. Yeah,
• 2:06:20
  yeah, yeah. He talked about he's one of Michael's cousins. Yeah,
• 2:06:25
  well I don't know about that, but he talked a lot about old Guinea.
• 2:06:28
  Man. It sounds like something that my alley. And it'd be hard
• 2:06:30
  to work into the rotation, you know, with like airfare and visus.
• 2:06:34
  We've had some some of our listeners get pissed because we've kind of hot spotted
• 2:06:38
  old Guinea and feel you know, man, like you know, you get
• 2:06:42
  online until like exactly where you caught certain fish and just no, yeah,
• 2:06:46
  dude, I I just you know, I like I like to share the
• 2:06:49
  wealth, Like it's it's important for me to like let people know where I'm
• 2:06:53
  at. Yeah, like they got to know, like if you come fishing
• 2:06:56
  with with Stan the tran you're gonna fish on this this particul kular you know,
• 2:07:00
  oyster mound and sounds. So you're booking straight if you're all over the
• 2:07:05
  place, you know, like ever Double books in Charleston and he's in Louisiana
• 2:07:11
  and he should be you know, I you know, it's just the it's
• 2:07:15
  the nature of the beast man. You know. You just send him a
• 2:07:16
  little oopsie message and you know you move on, like right, I mean,
• 2:07:24
  the deposits are deposits are non refundable, man, I mean, I
• 2:07:28
  don't know what to tell you. Sometimes the wind blows sounds amazing, it's
• 2:07:31
  a really good time. What kind of dog do you have? Yeah,
• 2:07:38
  you know, my dog is my life. You know, he goes on
• 2:07:41
  every charter with me. He's like a half breed boycing GP. Like he's
• 2:07:45
  just a very very short haired boycing you know, like he's a little he's
• 2:07:54
  a little more he's like he's like a GSP, but he's like he's a
• 2:07:58
  little more brown, like less more brown. He's a b SP. Yeah,
• 2:08:01
  man, And he's very hyper. He's a very hyper ad dog.
• 2:08:07
  But you know, generally speaking, most of the clients are hypo you know,
• 2:08:11
  like allergy and inch and stuff. It's not really a big deal.
• 2:08:16
  This is cool. We gotta move on. Have you ever met Richard Kesa?
• 2:08:20
  Yeah, I think I parked my truck somewhere near this weird camper.
• 2:08:22
  There was a guy there. Is that him in the back check. I
• 2:08:28
  just I'm just it smells a little funky next to the camper. But other
• 2:08:33
  than that. Man, if you see a bunch of raccoons, don't worry
• 2:08:39
  about it. Yeah, I just try to let coons do their thing.
• 2:08:43
  Well, what are you gonna do tonight? Man, You're gonna go out
• 2:08:45
  in the town. I got a big charter in the morning, so you
• 2:08:48
  know, I don't know. There's a cool bar next door. It's like
• 2:08:50
  sells really nice, hoppy I p as. I think it might just dig
• 2:08:54
  into one of those I don't know, man, I just try to keep
• 2:08:58
  it low key. You know. It's totally man cool cool. All right.
• 2:09:01
  Well, I'm just gonna I feel the wind blow and I'm gonna man
• 2:09:07
  stand less. Uh and he's gone, folks, Okay, yeah, the
• 2:09:16
  good buddy. Damn. How about stand missed out? I was standing back
• 2:09:26
  there. I heard it. I mean, I wasn't participating granted, but
• 2:09:31
  I was standing on training a couple of quick announcements. Uh music calendar.
• 2:09:39
  The only calendar of things I have are Bandido and Gritty Flyer. I'm sure
• 2:09:46
  that's the worst music calendar. I mean, what, God, it's bad.
• 2:09:52
  That's awesome for for self serving, very very uh So Friday night he's
• 2:10:00
  playing at Poorhouse. They're like new music release party nights if you're around back
• 2:10:05
  Porch poor House Friday night. And then a week a week from Friday,
• 2:10:11
  we're having an event at Martin's Barbecue on James Island to help out our friend
• 2:10:16
  Anthony in Asher and uh he Anthony and Swing and Swines is gonna it's kind
• 2:10:22
  of a part of a food and wine festival we have here in Charleston.
• 2:10:24
  So if you're in Charleston, go to Martin's Friday night, big fundraiser.
• 2:10:28
  It's gonna be a good time. And our bands playing to Bandido awesome.
• 2:10:31
  And then Sunday is the next supper club. So it does supper club.
• 2:10:35
  I think it's the tenth, which you don't want to miss that game.
• 2:10:37
  That is a credible Sunday doors at five and that's a frontier lounge Sunday love
• 2:10:45
  it and other than that, I've kind of cover that stuff. Should we
• 2:10:48
  get old? Kay? So yeah, I'll go get Caso. How con
• 2:10:54
  my mic gets used for all this tiff? He's out there someone? Yeah?
• 2:10:58
  Well, I mean, what's this? He said? He heard something
• 2:11:01
  out there? What? Well? I got? I gotta go get case.
• 2:11:07
  Why am I the only ones gotta keep bullshit? All right? Doug
• 2:11:11
  went, Doug, Don I I can delay? He found? Oh,
• 2:11:16
  we gotta find the intro song. Doug went to get him. All right,
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  okay, this is let's hear. You gotta have an ad before we
• 2:11:30
  have any kind of try music. All right, I'll give him my seat.
• 2:11:33
  You're gonna hear the song when you can talk. Just say something toothbrush.
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  After this we are gonna have Mexican. So in West Ashley there's a
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  new sothe'st Doug has been. I haven't been there yet. What happened?
• 2:11:54
  I don't know what happened. I don't even hear anything. Well, he's
• 2:11:56
  got the volume down. He's trying to shield us from his mistakes. What
• 2:12:01
  is happening? That's all go inside? Sure where hello there barely live fans?
• 2:12:20
  It is your favorite fish and Cord what's that, Paul? What are
• 2:12:24
  you doing that? We already did the one song? We only do one
• 2:12:26
  song at a time, ball one Perth and one in Tro No more box
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  wine guy stuff. They shouldn't drink so much wine, Paul in the Bad
• 2:12:39
  Foot WI should should he drink instead? When mister Case, I don't know
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  if I've told you all about this year because I ain't got the recipe quite
• 2:12:48
  dial in. Oh we got something new. Oh yeah, I called my
• 2:12:52
  para winkle wine. Right, So what I do is I take some straight
• 2:12:56
  corner liquor and I let it percolate through a pile all the parawinkle shells,
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  and then it trickles out into you know, the final product after some filtering
• 2:13:05
  and stuff, and and it's it's delicious. I don't know if you know
• 2:13:09
  this, but my friend Barry, Barry down in the Keith, he makes
• 2:13:13
  the sea grape wine. You know, we can make the sea grapes and
• 2:13:18
  he turn the wine in. So I took his idea. But we don't
• 2:13:22
  have sea grapes here. We have c Q combers, but we don't have
• 2:13:24
  the sea grapes. So what we do have is a bunch of pair winkles
• 2:13:28
  which is a small little snail, and then buy valves so they filter things
• 2:13:31
  right, so it's gotta be fine. You just put a little put a
• 2:13:35
  little liquor through women. They just buy vealvet on out to the other side,
• 2:13:39
  and the next thing you know, you're talking to the girl named Shirley
• 2:13:41
  and at three in the morning and you don't know where he is. I
• 2:13:45
  love I love Shirley. Yeah, yeah, what's my mama's name. I'm
• 2:13:52
  gonna get some bluegrass music playing. I love blue grass. You know what
• 2:13:54
  I like? I like blue grass. So what do you guys been doing?
• 2:13:58
  Rich Did you mean that guy stand? Yeah? Is he the guy
• 2:14:03
  with the drift boat being towed behind the flat? Yeah? Uh huh?
• 2:14:05
  Did you did you invite him into the end of the camera? No?
• 2:14:09
  I didn't. That seemed like an unsafe toad the situation. No. Yeah,
• 2:14:15
  he did comment on the smell. But to my defense, I have
• 2:14:18
  been making a new batch of coom claw powder and what that's the thing?
• 2:14:22
  It requires some on savory acts. Yeah, the dirty job being Richard k
• 2:14:31
  tho. We got a new stuff you have coming up? Well, I
• 2:14:33
  done told you about the parawinkle. Yeah, spirits were working like, well,
• 2:14:39
  you know as good as I am at coming up with a new products,
• 2:14:45
  Yeah, I am equally as bad at artwork. So I am trying
• 2:14:50
  to get Paul. Yeah, I've been working on Paul for years. Then
• 2:14:54
  he just never got around to it because it's the painting pictures of Jillian Sardines
• 2:14:58
  jumping out of the world order and stuff, and and you know, I
• 2:15:01
  understand that the rich people pay his bills and stuff. I don't know what's
• 2:15:09
  happening. Did that shopping just come out from under your table cloth? Oh?
• 2:15:18
  Look at Paul's throwing pictures too bad well on the radio, and we
• 2:15:20
  can't we can't show pictures on the radio. Paul, that's not Why do
• 2:15:30
  you have a table? This is loaded with there's a round to it.
• 2:15:35
  Now you can make this shirt happen said, You've been trying to get me
• 2:15:39
  to give you around to it. Paul uses tick to drawing things and left
• 2:15:43
  comedy. It's not as funny when Paul gets around to it. And I've
• 2:15:50
  got around to it now, mister k Sho, I just cart around to
• 2:15:54
  it. Do you ever like kind of take vacations, go go somewhere,
• 2:16:00
  you know, talking a wise man once told me, if you do what
• 2:16:03
  you love, then you never walk a day in your life. Turns out
• 2:16:07
  he was lying. I work really really hard to try to keep my life
• 2:16:11
  together. But on the plus side, I am very mobile, and so
• 2:16:16
  wherever I want to be at the moment where I am right now, it
• 2:16:22
  turns out, right now I want to be next to I want to be
• 2:16:24
  next to a trailer or a train track in North Charles And apparently, but
• 2:16:33
  did trailer break down. I've got some bearing issues I gotta work out.
• 2:16:37
  But yeah, I'm working on it. I'm working on it. I gotta
• 2:16:41
  feel a little more to this parawink of wine. I should be set,
• 2:16:43
  you know, get down to the keys for the tarp and started rolling and
• 2:16:48
  stuff, and yeah, he's getting hard to find a place to park camp.
• 2:16:52
  And the keys that don't walk like someone that I met someone this weekend.
• 2:16:56
  And the keys that bought a slip for their r V, they bought
• 2:17:01
  it like real estate dollars five hundred grand. Doubt it? Uh wouldn't it,
• 2:17:13
  wouldn't it? Uh? What's his face? The famous uh? Right
• 2:17:18
  at the city by Land. I ain't making no more of it when I
• 2:17:20
  guarantee they ain't making no more keys. They ain't making no more keys.
• 2:17:24
  They ain't making another key yet. I ain't seen a single key pop up
• 2:17:30
  like you would. I don't know if you see Tucker. He's not exactly
• 2:17:35
  built for the NBA and more of a you want to email, I've got
• 2:17:39
  an email for you. Sure are you ready for mail sack yet? Or
• 2:17:43
  yeah, you can do the mail sack. But if that email says this
• 2:17:46
  spot is free for Richard k tho dot com, then yeah, I'm in
• 2:17:50
  on that too. This spot is this This emails from John McKinney. Okay
• 2:18:03
  McKenny, Richard, you've always spoke of fishing and outdoors and beautiful places and
• 2:18:07
  sunsets. If someone asks you two things you love the most, and you
• 2:18:13
  were to say, I love sunsets and blank I like viewing sunsets from five
• 2:18:20
  hundred dollars trucks with fat white chicks in the back go to case. It
• 2:18:28
  was a simple man five trucks. There's nothing better in his life than a
• 2:18:35
  five hundred dollar pickup truck. Find a pickup truck. It's hard, but
• 2:18:39
  it's worth it. Now, do the fat chicks fight. Fat white chicks
• 2:18:45
  come included if you drop a dollar truck, you attract them, trust me,
• 2:18:50
  what comes with the other You're right, God, I don't know after
• 2:18:56
  that? What? So, how many of these five hundred dollars trucks have
• 2:19:01
  you had? Well, I'm not gonna lie. It's getting harder and harder.
• 2:19:05
  Constructs have become cool and everybody wants to rival, even if the only
• 2:19:09
  thing they ever told is their fat white cheek. And so you know,
• 2:19:13
  it's really really hard to find to five hundred dollar truck. But when you
• 2:19:18
  find one, oh, it's like it's like waking up on Christmas morning.
• 2:19:22
  You know, we know it. The air smells crisp, and you can
• 2:19:26
  smell cookies baking and no open except it's not cookies, it's transmission crisp.
• 2:19:31
  So do that. What is your your thoughts on the recent recent trend in
• 2:19:37
  what's called the Carolina squat where the instead of you raised the front of a
• 2:19:41
  truck and you lower the back of a truck. So kind of I never
• 2:19:45
  understood it. It looks like they're driving around towing ten thousand pound trailers that
• 2:19:48
  are visible. It's like, I don't you know, it's impossible for me
• 2:19:54
  to get my head around now. On the same token. I like some
• 2:19:58
  things and moving on. Are your streaming may not cool? So you know
• 2:20:01
  I was a kid one time and I saw things I thought was cool.
• 2:20:05
  It wasn't cool that being thired. Uh, they're ruining perfectly good trucks because
• 2:20:11
  I kind of thought, you know, when you're talking about, like,
• 2:20:13
  you know, getting the five hundred dollars truck and the fat white chicks.
• 2:20:18
  If you've got the Carolina squat, your fat white chicks are gonna fall out.
• 2:20:22
  Yeah, they might roll out the back if you're not careful, but
• 2:20:26
  get that bump right. Yeah, but you know you gotta let baby ride
• 2:20:28
  shot gun. So she's up there on the bench seat. You know,
• 2:20:31
  she just he's vine. She's gonna roll out. All about weight distribution.
• 2:20:35
  If you put her in the front, you won't have the squat in the
• 2:20:37
  back. You know that how that worked out? Not picking on big girl.
• 2:20:43
  Richard Kazo loves a big girl. Is there a weight? Let me
• 2:20:50
  you got any questions from the side, All right, you guys, he
• 2:20:56
  didn't nobody he made on me. I feel kind of sad. I can
• 2:21:00
  I used to have so many males, you guys, you guys have It's
• 2:21:07
  not really it's actually a fan. Oh I got fans, so yeah,
• 2:21:13
  my fans love and he honestly wants to know where can he find Richard Kso
• 2:21:24
  on a Wednesday night in Charleston. Question. Well, you know, sometimes,
• 2:21:30
  uh, sometimes I'm just in the camp making the conco powders and the
• 2:21:35
  possum greases the campers wherever the camp needs to be. Oh that's I don't
• 2:21:41
  want any you know, Charleston County authorities in quotations coming and finding me somewhere.
• 2:21:46
  But that's the point. If I am not busy making my fine quality,
• 2:21:52
  highest produced products that I have applied all my fans and my people out
• 2:21:56
  there, then you maybe hones. You know. Oh I like a good
• 2:22:01
  ber, it's great. The rec room after eleven is also a nice play
• 2:22:07
  little Italian joint on seventeen and wapoo, that little used to be something else,
• 2:22:11
  a little Italian place, you know. Off. Oh yeah, it
• 2:22:16
  looks like you used to be a pizza. Yeah, but I'm not really
• 2:22:18
  sure it's interesting in there. Yeah. You know what though, that lady
• 2:22:24
  she has a mustache, but she makes a fine hour an hour. You
• 2:22:28
  know, you gotta you gotta take a little give a little. That's how
• 2:22:31
  it works. The King Street cabarets just down the road. Yeah, well,
• 2:22:35
  you know, I'm not saying I've never been there, but I'm not
• 2:22:39
  there that often. Oh yeah, you know my rule of thumb Man's like,
• 2:22:43
  if I can see my hand five feet from the faith, I don't
• 2:22:48
  want to be there. Gotta be a little darker than that. Do you
• 2:22:50
  use Uber? Do you uber back to the Sure? Sure? Do I
• 2:22:56
  look like somebody that uses Uber? Nooper, No, I really I leave.
• 2:23:05
  I leave the camp or wherever I desire. I want a little pickup
• 2:23:09
  truck. And then if I you know who they, I'm bob too much.
• 2:23:13
  Generally speaking, I just sleep in the trucks or throw a little thumbat
• 2:23:16
  on the side and see if I can make it back to the camper.
• 2:23:20
  You know, probably got a shell phone, not so much a cell phone,
• 2:23:24
  but a shell phone. Yeah. Sure, I don't know what that
• 2:23:26
  means, that's all. And dont get me now, you're just being ridiculous.
• 2:23:33
  I have a track phone. I just buying from the gas. Put
• 2:23:35
  a little money on me, you big den. They've caught on fire a
• 2:23:45
  few times and not gonna all right, Well, have we done it?
• 2:23:52
  Already will shoot, how long do y'all do this podcast? Normally? Because
• 2:23:56
  I'm on you ever here for like five minutes and then you'll like, oh,
• 2:24:00
  we don't we don't know him for that long. I mean we're here
• 2:24:03
  maybe like ten minutes. Totally, it's like three hours. No, no,
• 2:24:09
  we don't. We don't don't want to do it anymore. But I
• 2:24:11
  would love to be here the more than I can be here. I didn't
• 2:24:13
  you know. I just I didn't know. You don't get any ideas.
• 2:24:16
  I'm closing that window later. By the way, are you sure you am?
• 2:24:20
  I going to get out? Yeah? Yeah, I think I gotta
• 2:24:24
  go check on some electrical connections. That's all. Go inside. Well,
• 2:24:48
  I'm gonna end this field, don't mind. I'm gonna play one of our
• 2:24:50
  band's original tunes, The Bow's Island. Thing is we just do we have
• 2:24:56
  another band? We got at least one more band in there. We got
• 2:24:58
  at least one. What's ben band? Ben? What? Oh? Yeah?
• 2:25:07
  Sorry, I thought you meant no, I like, we do a
• 2:25:09
  band and then we go to your band. Yeah, let's do it.
• 2:25:11
  I'm sure we got at least one. I didn't know what you were saying.
• 2:25:13
  Sorry, Ben, everyone knows. But if you get stuck with the
• 2:25:16
  bluegill spine, urine will make the pain go away. But what you might
• 2:25:22
  not know is that you can't use your own urine. You have to get
• 2:25:24
  a friend to piss on you. So you guys want to go fishing,
• 2:25:31
  heym Ben, I'm a huge fly fisherman, and I've got a quick streamer
• 2:25:33
  fishing tip for you. If a fish is following your streamer but not committing,
• 2:25:37
  just keep doing what you were doing. Don't speed up, don't slow
• 2:25:41
  down, Just maintain that rhythm. That's the only way to seal the deal.
• 2:25:46
  If you can think of another real life comparison to that, I'd love
• 2:25:50
  to hear it. Anyway, my wife left me last week. I am
• 2:25:56
  Ben. I'm a huge fly fisherman, and I've got a fun fact about
• 2:25:58
  bone fish for you. If you fish munds for bonefish, you're a bitch.
• 2:26:07
  All right? Well, Ben's a great Uh. Yeah. I told
• 2:26:11
  him like I was like, I literally like, hey man, we're gonna
• 2:26:13
  do the little show. We were texting about other things and I was like,
• 2:26:16
  hey, uh, if you got time, you want to do a
• 2:26:18
  little And he sent me like eleven of those things, and I was like,
• 2:26:22
  bro, I didn't mean to take up your whole fucking morning. Like
• 2:26:24
  you know, we don't pay money for anything, right, Listen, guys,
• 2:26:26
  I hate to cut it off, but I'm gonna go take a selfie
• 2:26:30
  with this barbecue sandwich. Becca really loves that band, so love y'all.
• 2:26:37
  Are you gonna get that to Martin's. We're gonna off so we're going to
• 2:26:43
  Santis. Thanks again, frigate turtlebox b heo. And we had it and
• 2:26:48
  been a huge, a huge five fisherman, not for missing one that we
• 2:26:54
  kind of threw in there. As an addition, I'm gonna play this song.
• 2:26:58
  It's called My Medicine. It's our band bandy here in Charleston. We're
• 2:27:01
  playing next Friday at Mars Barbecue. All right, damn it, see y'all
• 2:27:07
  it's a live recording, so remember it's not the best recording. What I
• 2:27:28
  didn't do that m h unbelievable. Wherever was? Oh? No, fairly
• 2:27:41
  live? Messed up something? You were the signal anything the same scene,
• 2:29:39
  the scene s S S S S S S about medicine. I think we're
• 2:35:20
  done. I think we are good to book. Are there on the base
• 2:35:26
  watch the buddies back, all the drowns, everybody in the next us sticking
• 2:35:30
  out with us. We really appreciate this fun. Thank you so much. M.