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Credlin | 27 July · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Predo Quedlin live from New twenty four.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the show. Now, of course we
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Speaker 2: are News twenty four. How about that a new opener
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Speaker 2: you backdrop, a show that in the moment, and a
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Speaker 2: new network brand. What we do not changing here at all.
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Speaker 2: He's what's coming up tonight on Predline. A massive day
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Speaker 2: today in Victorian politics. Just sent to Allen's leadership looking terminal,
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Speaker 2: but it appears she wants a bloody battle and digging
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Speaker 2: in plenty to get you across tonight, plus a bad
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Speaker 2: news poll for her this afternoon. We'll also speak with
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Speaker 2: Liberal leader Jess Wilson. Does it matter who she faces
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Speaker 2: in November? The Federal Court rejecting Pauline Hanson's appeal are
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Speaker 2: Polly that she racially villified Green Senator Marine Farouki. So good,
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Speaker 2: Hanson take this now to the High Court. Her chief
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Speaker 2: of staff James Ashby, will join me plus plenty to
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Speaker 2: look at from the AOP conference, the wash up over
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Speaker 2: the weekend stage managed yes, but on foreign affairs the
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Speaker 2: debate was shut down. What's worse, Labor refusing to agree
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Speaker 2: that Harmas should disarm and the PM's train wreck interview
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Speaker 2: evasive when questions were raised about his high role as
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Speaker 2: dinner last week in Sydney.
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Speaker 3: I tend lots of dinners in lots of places, and
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Speaker 3: I don't talk about private dinners. I've held a number
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Speaker 3: this week.
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Speaker 2: But first, there's a saying in politics, in any race,
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Speaker 2: back the horse self interest, and that's never been truer
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Speaker 2: than tonight. Inside Victorian Labor has moves to our premier.
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Speaker 2: Just Sinta Allen come to a head with yet more
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Speaker 2: polling showing that Labour's in catastrophic trouble when it all
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Speaker 2: gets boiled down, and mp fearing they'll lose their seat,
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Speaker 2: will always look to dump the leader rather than admit
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Speaker 2: they bear any responsibility for their party's poor performance. This
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Speaker 2: afternoon's Special News poll lays bare Labour's dilemma. A primary
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Speaker 2: voter just twenty eight percent, meaning that on a two
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Speaker 2: party preferred basis, the coalitions in front of Labor fifty
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Speaker 2: two forty eight. As to who voters won as their premier,
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Speaker 2: Liberal leader Jess Wilson's way ahead of Allan fifty one
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Speaker 2: percent of those Victorians poles, so that's a majority of
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Speaker 2: voters won her over just Into Allan and Allan's well
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Speaker 2: behind on.
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Speaker 4: Thirty two percent.
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Speaker 2: And here's the shocker that makes Justin to Allen the
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Speaker 2: most unpopular premier and used pole history. So forget all
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Speaker 2: that clap trap from the left about gender and quotas
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Speaker 2: Labour's talks cheap. It's not a chromosomes that are killing
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Speaker 2: to sin to Allen, but her baggage is Dan Andrews's
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Speaker 2: deputy in a gross mismanagement of the big build so
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Speaker 2: mid In allegations of union and organized crime corruption, that's
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Speaker 2: the problem. Now, let me remind you something. Most in
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Speaker 2: the media forget. Allan was never elected premier at the
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Speaker 2: last election. Dan Andrews was. That's right, when he'd forgotten this.
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Speaker 2: Despite world record lockdowns the last state election in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty two, the Liberals under two time leader Matthew Guy,
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Speaker 2: well they actually went backwards. So Dan Andrews survived, only
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Speaker 2: to resign a year later, grabbing his big pension before
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Speaker 2: heading off to make his money via his mates in Beijing.
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Speaker 4: And on the way out, of course.
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Speaker 2: He installed his mate, fellow Left faction loyalist, just into Alan.
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Speaker 2: So installed, not elected, and just like the unelected Joan
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Speaker 2: Kerner before her, will Allan'll make history for all the
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Speaker 2: wrong reasons.
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Speaker 4: Although yes, unelected.
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Speaker 2: By the people liked us into Alan, at least kerner
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Speaker 2: faced voters at an election, So please spare me the
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Speaker 2: constant by about women from the left. In the end,
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Speaker 2: it's competence, performance and merit that matters more than anything else,
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Speaker 2: and it's the lack of all three. It's been the
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Speaker 2: problem for Allan from day one. Although good luck to
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Speaker 2: Ben Carolyn explaining this about face to his daughter after
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Speaker 2: using her as some sort of human shield in recent
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Speaker 2: weeks when asked if he's still supported just into.
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Speaker 5: Alan, I want to serve you, Cinteria Allen, and I
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Speaker 5: want to make sure No.
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Speaker 6: Look that's my people. I've got a.
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Speaker 5: Young daughter at home, and I'm going to be more
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Speaker 5: proud to make sure she grows up knowing that I
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Speaker 5: supported your Cintera Allen to be a world class premier
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Speaker 5: and get re elected in her own role.
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Speaker 7: Are you going to try to get the premier's job tomorrow?
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Speaker 8: No?
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Speaker 2: Are you going to ask her to step beside?
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Speaker 9: No?
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Speaker 8: Can you look her in the eye so that I.
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Speaker 2: Can say that, Premier, it's only been six weeks. It
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Speaker 2: has an aged well, has it? Now, what's clear tonight
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Speaker 2: is that Alan has lost majority of support amongst her
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Speaker 2: labor colleagues. Added to which she's this exclusive tonight of
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Speaker 2: the Age website that reads a secret briefing to Premier
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Speaker 2: to send to Alan reveals her most senior advisors sought
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Speaker 2: to warn her in writing in June twenty twenty three
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Speaker 2: that the big bill she was overseeing as minister was
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Speaker 2: being taken over by a lawless CFMAU and that this
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Speaker 2: could cause major blowouts and bikers and criminals had reportedly
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Speaker 2: infiltrated taxpayer funded projects. So, if that's right, Alan, you
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Speaker 2: fifteen billions now being wasted and she was warned, So
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Speaker 2: she's gone.
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Speaker 4: She's gone.
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Speaker 2: The real issue now is how bloody does she want
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Speaker 2: this order become. Does she resign and hand over cleanly
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Speaker 2: tomorrow to Ben Carroll that's clearly what the factions were
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Speaker 2: hoping for last night, Or is she made plane in
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Speaker 2: a letter today to head office. Does she continue you
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Speaker 2: to stay and fight and if she does, or what
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Speaker 2: does that look like? Dragging it out over the next
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Speaker 2: four weeks, running internal hatreds through the media to end
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Speaker 2: up with what we know is already a foregone conclusion
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Speaker 2: Alan out Caroline, is that what will happen or will
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Speaker 2: party elders get to her and urge some common sense.
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Speaker 2: With just four months now between today and the November
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Speaker 2: state election, at what point does Alan's determination to fight
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Speaker 2: for her job become self indulgent? At what point does
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Speaker 2: her active defiance against the numbers make her, politically speaking,
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Speaker 2: a suicide bomber for Labour's opponents. That's what she needs
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Speaker 2: to weigh up this evening now. When faced with a
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Speaker 2: similar decision Julia Gillard, who stole Kevin Rudd's job midway
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Speaker 2: through his first term, she fought on now it didn't
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Speaker 2: help her, As we know, the caucus went ahead and
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Speaker 2: rolled Labour's first female leader, the first female prime minister.
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Speaker 2: Or anyway, they reinstalled Rudd just months out from the
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Speaker 2: twenty thirteen election, and the same will happen here. Remember
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Speaker 2: what I said earlier, I remember that horse called self interest. Well,
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Speaker 2: just like in twenty thirteen, I don't think changing the
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Speaker 2: leader will make a scrap of difference to the result
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Speaker 2: in November. But with these important caveats, if the Labor
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Speaker 2: leadership does change, the Liberals have got to hold their nerve. Now,
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Speaker 2: I can't tell you the number of times we had
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Speaker 2: Liberals in opposition, people like the then Deputy Julie Bishop.
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Speaker 2: I mean it completely obsessed about how we were going
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Speaker 2: to handle the prospect that Labor might dunk Gillard and
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Speaker 2: put Rudd back in Before polling day now, honestly, Bishop
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Speaker 2: was almost paralyzed with the thought that we would lose Gillard,
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Speaker 2: who at the time, just like Jacinta Allen, was a
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Speaker 2: big vote winner for the Coalition, and every time she
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Speaker 2: and others raised it, Tony Abbott would say this to them.
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Speaker 2: He'd say, look, we've got no control over who we
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Speaker 2: face at the election. We only have control over what
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Speaker 2: we say and the policies we take to the Australian people.
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Speaker 2: And the moment we become so obsessed about our opponent
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Speaker 2: that we lose sight of that, that we're god Now
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Speaker 2: as it was spot on, he's stuck to his strategy
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Speaker 2: and he won in a landslide, even with Kevin Rud's return.
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Speaker 2: So that's my message tonight to liberals. Not one of
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Speaker 2: you has a vote in the Labor caucus. None of
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Speaker 2: you can influence what Labor will do. The only thing
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Speaker 2: you can control now is how you react to it,
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Speaker 2: and in that respect, this is where you must stick
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Speaker 2: to your strategy in the end. In the end, it
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Speaker 2: doesn't matter who captains the labourship. That ship's sinking, and
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Speaker 2: it's your job to ensure that the ship ends up
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Speaker 2: at the bottom of Port Phillip Bay.
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Speaker 4: The real risk for liberals.
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Speaker 2: Is that media on the internal machinations of labor take
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Speaker 2: away airtime that they weren't focused on the solutions they
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Speaker 2: have to fix the broken state of Victoria. So as
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Speaker 2: distracting as all of this might be, and there's a
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Speaker 2: real risk that some liberal front benches will see the
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Speaker 2: mess inside labor is a bit of an excuse to
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Speaker 2: get lazy in terms of their own work ethic over
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Speaker 2: the next few months. What's happening right now with the
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Speaker 2: labor leadership should in fact spur them on to go
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Speaker 2: even harder, because I come from the school of politics
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Speaker 2: where if you've got your foot on the throat of
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Speaker 2: your opponent, you keep it there, You keep your foot
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Speaker 2: on their neck until the better end. So as the
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Speaker 2: phones run hot in Victorian labor tonight, watch this space.
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Speaker 2: Plenty of headlines will go there now to Canberra and
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Speaker 2: get them. Political reporter Riven Spargo.
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Speaker 10: Good Evening. Pauline Hansen has lost her appeal against the
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Speaker 10: court ruling which found she racially discriminated against a Green senator.
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Speaker 10: The One Nation leader told Green's deputy leader Marine Ferruki
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Speaker 10: to go back to where she came from.
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Speaker 11: This yesterday is our fight back against the.
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Speaker 10: Far right Senator Hanson is flagging a potential High Court appeal.
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Speaker 10: The Prime Minister is evading questions about a secretive Sydney dinner.
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Speaker 10: Anthony Albernizi seemingly confirmed he attended the family mansion of
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Speaker 10: Felix Lee, who the Nine Papers report was offering a
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Speaker 10: substantial donation to the Labor Party. Mister Lee's father faces
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Speaker 10: allegations of deceiving the ATO to funnel money from China
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Speaker 10: into Australia.
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Speaker 3: Oh look, I attend lots of functions. I attend lots
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Speaker 3: of functions in lots of places.
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Speaker 4: What about the sinner at point part.
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Speaker 3: I attend lots of functions. You want to ask that
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Speaker 3: One Nation leader.
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Speaker 10: Pauline Hansen claims if Labor didn't have double standards, they
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Speaker 10: wouldn't have any A Liberal MP is likening the ALP's
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Speaker 10: national conference with something out of North Korea Unions, rank
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Speaker 10: and file members, MPs and factional powerbrokers gathered in Adelaide.
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Speaker 7: It's a political conference that would have done Kim Jong
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Speaker 7: un proud. Clearly, no one was allowed to descent at all,
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Speaker 7: and we know that's the motors of Brandi tata.
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Speaker 10: Is He the Prime Minister, claims it was the most
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Speaker 10: transparent political conference in Australia and Labor is unified.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 2: Before I bring in my panel and other things, I
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Speaker 2: want to go back to that massive day today in
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Speaker 2: Victorian politics. It'll be a long night tonight for the
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Speaker 2: Labor MPs, the factional bosses of course, hitting the phones.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now for the latest at Victorian and political
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Speaker 2: reporter in the hot seat, Georgie Dickinson. Well news twenty
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Speaker 2: four We haven't even been going twenty four hours yet, Georgie,
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Speaker 2: but we were first with the news. We've run it
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Speaker 2: hard all day. The speculation's been there for weeks, of
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Speaker 2: course it is.
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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 2: When it started to move earlier this morning, it moved fast,
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Speaker 2: didn't it.
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Speaker 11: It certainly picked up pace very quickly. Good evening to you, Peter.
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Speaker 12: It was before a cabinet meeting that was scheduled to
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Speaker 12: start at eleven o'clock that members of the premier's ministry
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Speaker 12: had visited her, including the Police Minister as well as
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Speaker 12: her Infrastructure Minister, Gabrielle Williams. At this meeting, before the
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Speaker 12: cabinet meeting had even started, they had asked the Premier
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Speaker 12: to resign, to step aside and make way for the
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Speaker 12: Deputy Premier Ben Carroll. She clearly refused to do so.
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Speaker 12: She in turn actually asked those ministers visiting her to
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Speaker 12: resign themselves, which clearly.
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Speaker 11: They weren't going to do now.
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Speaker 12: Of course, as you played earlier, that snippet from the
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Speaker 12: deputy Premier Ben Carroll just six weeks ago saying that
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Speaker 12: he wasn't coming for the top job.
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Speaker 11: Today a completely different story.
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Speaker 12: He released this statement online and he had said that
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Speaker 12: it is clear that the Premier had lost the majority
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Speaker 12: of her caucus, and he had said in that statement
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Speaker 12: that he'd.
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Speaker 11: Gone to the Premier to inform her.
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Speaker 12: That he would be nominating for the leadership of the
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Speaker 12: Labor Party. So certainly an extremely different tune to see
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Speaker 12: weeks ago. And of course we've seen the Premier saying
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Speaker 12: that she will contest the leadership if it comes to that.
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Speaker 12: But of course, Peter, that'll all happen at that party
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Speaker 12: room meeting at ten o'clock tomorrow morning.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Parliament is sitting. If she's adamant that she won't
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Speaker 2: go take us through what happens, then Georgie, well, clearly.
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Speaker 12: They have the numbers for a successful leadership spill, So
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Speaker 12: there's a few different scenarios that can play out. So
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Speaker 12: that is the most likely that there will be a
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Speaker 12: successful leadership spill. Then Ben Carroll will likely and will
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Speaker 12: nominate for the leadership. But of course then the real
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Speaker 12: question is if Jacinta Allen will stand by her word
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Speaker 12: and that statement that she'd sent to the State Secretary
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Speaker 12: that she would contest the leadership. If that is the case,
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Speaker 12: that is really turmoil for the Labor Party.
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Speaker 11: Then it could be a two month long process.
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Speaker 12: Of course, we're only just over four months out from
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Speaker 12: the state election, so the focus really.
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Speaker 11: Needs to remain on the election ahead.
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Speaker 12: So that will be the real sticking point whether she
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Speaker 12: stands by her word tomorrow morning, and that will all
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Speaker 12: be decided at ten o'clock when the party room meets.
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Speaker 4: Now this is a.
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Speaker 2: Question without notice, Georgie and you might need to take
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Speaker 2: it away and find out for me. But what a
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Speaker 2: caucus room decides is that is the rules for a
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Speaker 2: leadership ballot. They can also change, just like the Liberal
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Speaker 2: Party can. So when they decided when they moved away
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Speaker 2: from a caucus only elected leader and moved into a
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Speaker 2: scenario where it's a mixture of caucus and rank and file,
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Speaker 2: well there's nothing to stop the caucus tomorrow moving a
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Speaker 2: motion to rescind that and have it just a decision
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Speaker 2: only of the caucus.
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Speaker 4: Do you know if that's on the table.
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Speaker 11: We haven't heard about that yet, Peter.
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Speaker 12: I suppose the real message that the Labor Party tonight
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Speaker 12: would be wanting to have is that they don't even
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Speaker 12: have to get to that stage. They want, obviously just
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Speaker 12: into Alan to resign before it gets to that stage
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Speaker 12: and gets even messier than the situation currently already is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, someone's got to knock on the door and say, love,
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Speaker 2: it's not about you, it's no longer about you. You
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Speaker 2: have to go. It's about the party. But we'll see
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Speaker 2: what happens overnight. Thank you, Georgie, go and rest up.
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Speaker 2: You'll be busy again tomorrow. I suspect let's bring in
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Speaker 2: my panel on our News twenty four host Jamie Rodgers
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Speaker 2: and national affairs editor of a Daily Telegraph, also part
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Speaker 2: of the stable of News twenty four too, James Morrow,
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Speaker 2: let's start with Victorian leadership. I have to play these
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Speaker 2: comments from just six weeks ago again by the aspirant
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Speaker 2: Ben Carroll.
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Speaker 5: I want to serve your Cintia Rallan, and I want
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Speaker 5: to make sure No.
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Speaker 6: Look that's my people.
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Speaker 5: I've got a young daughter at home and I'm going
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Speaker 5: to be more proud to make sure she grows up
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Speaker 5: knowing that I supported your Cinta Allen to be a
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Speaker 5: world class premier and get re elected in her own role.
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Speaker 7: Are you going to try to beat the premier's job tomorrow?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 2: Are you going to ask you to step aside?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 8: Can you look her in the eye?
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Speaker 4: So look, say that Premier, Jamie, Javi Jamie.
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Speaker 2: For all they talk about women, I tell you Labor
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Speaker 2: have all got a gold medal for the way they
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Speaker 2: roll their female leaders. So let's not take any any
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Speaker 2: advice from Labor when it comes to women in politics.
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Speaker 2: But what's interesting here, how does Ben Carroll explain that
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Speaker 2: one away not just to his daughter, but to Victorians.
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Speaker 13: That's a very good point, Peter, because that interview certainly
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Speaker 13: hasn't aged well and it's going to be perfect material
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Speaker 13: for the Liberals to be rolling out constantly if he
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Speaker 13: is elected as the next Labor leader and premier of
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Speaker 13: the Victorian state leading into the election November, because it
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Speaker 13: shows that he looked Justinter Allen in the eye and
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Speaker 13: said that he wasn't going to contest the leadership, and
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Speaker 13: then six weeks later, here we are. But he also
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Speaker 13: used his daughter almost as a little bit of a
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Speaker 13: political win there to say, I want to be able
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Speaker 13: to tell her that I backed just Cinter Allen and
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Speaker 13: now he's contesting the leadership. But it's going to be
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Speaker 13: interesting the response to Ben Carroll though, Peter, because he
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Speaker 13: has stood side by side with Justinter Allen as the
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Speaker 13: crime has been escalating, has the debt has been continuing
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Speaker 13: to grow, so he effectively is still tarnished by the
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Speaker 13: same brush as what Justintera.
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Speaker 11: Allen has been. It's going to be very interesting to.
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Speaker 13: Watch, and I am amazed that Justinta Allen is holding on.
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Speaker 13: She's certainly not doing what's best for her party. But
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Speaker 13: I really hope this is a big positive for the
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Speaker 13: Liberals going into November.
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Speaker 4: I will give him points.
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Speaker 2: So I'll give him credit, Jamie, because after Daniel Andrews
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Speaker 2: resigned and Alan was installed by the numbers that were
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Speaker 2: orchestrated actually by Daniel Andrews. As he walked out the door,
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Speaker 2: Carol was told not to run his deputy, but he
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Speaker 2: sort of said stuff you to Andrews and to the
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Speaker 2: left faction, and he.
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Speaker 4: Ran and was successful. So he's got a bit of spine.
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Speaker 2: But I think, like the Prime minister, he's got a
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Speaker 2: real labor trust deficit now doesn't he?
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Speaker 11: Well he does.
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Speaker 13: And to my point before, this is why the Liberals
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Speaker 13: can really jump on this and continue to play that
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Speaker 13: vision over and over again where he looked just Inter
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Speaker 13: Allen in the eye and said he wasn't going to
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Speaker 13: do that if he had any form of political ambition.
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Speaker 13: Politicians are brilliant, Peter not being able to answer a question,
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Speaker 13: so he should have been bouncing around and not done that,
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Speaker 13: because this is the sort of stuff that doesn't age
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Speaker 13: well and we'll come back to bite him. As I said,
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Speaker 13: this is brilliant material for the Liberals to be using.
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Speaker 13: Labor would be using it if it was the other
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Speaker 13: way around. So the Liberals need to get out with
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Speaker 13: their advertising campaign. It should be out as soon as
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Speaker 13: he is announced as a leader. That needs to be rolling.
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Speaker 2: They put some stuff out today about deceit and labor
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Speaker 2: being focused on itself and not by voters. And I'll
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Speaker 2: give them credit there to James and I made the point,
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Speaker 2: and I hope, I hope liberals are listening tonight.
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Speaker 4: There was this whole.
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Speaker 2: Internal kerfuffle in twenty thirteen as we headed into that election.
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Speaker 2: You know what happens if they put Kevin run back in.
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Speaker 2: Julia Gillard is our great gift in a polling sense.
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Speaker 2: Without Gillard, he's going to struggle to win. And Tony
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Speaker 2: said to all the nervous now, chief among them, as
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Speaker 2: I see, was Julie Bane, don't least focus, stick to
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Speaker 2: the strategy, don't drop your bundle.
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Speaker 4: And of course hey did.
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Speaker 2: The Libs did, and they wanted a landslide. That's what's
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Speaker 2: going to happen here.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Peter, that is what has to happen here.
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Speaker 1: And my information is that in fact, the campaign has
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Speaker 1: war gained out the whole idea that this would happen,
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Speaker 1: that there would be a change of leadership. I don't
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Speaker 1: think they would have gone into this campaign necessarily expecting
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Speaker 1: that just Sinda Allen was going to be the candidate
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Speaker 1: that they wound up standing against at the end of
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Speaker 1: November later this year. The message is still the same,
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Speaker 1: and what we're seeing now, we're going to start to
19:38
Speaker 1: see tongues of now for as long as this leadership
19:41
Speaker 1: fight goes on. And this is where the real advantage
19:44
Speaker 1: is for the Coalition is that this internal fight between
19:50
Speaker 1: the two it's already getting so ugly. We've seen leaks
19:53
Speaker 1: in the Age this afternoon about how the premiere was
19:57
Speaker 1: told back in twenty twenty three and a highly confident
20:00
Speaker 1: briefing that the CFMU was getting involved corruptly into all
20:03
Speaker 1: sorts of big build projects and that you know that
20:06
Speaker 1: there was a lot of concerns about money going out
20:08
Speaker 1: the door and corruption. And she's now saying, oh, I
20:11
Speaker 1: didn't know about that briefing, So you know, clearly already
20:14
Speaker 1: the knives are out. It's the longer this goes on,
20:18
Speaker 1: the more both parties in this get completely muddied, and
20:22
Speaker 1: obviously the better it is for the Liberals.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all credit there too to the Age. They've got
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Speaker 2: that story up. I'd had it rumored to me from
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Speaker 2: legal circles that there is the existence of these emails.
20:34
Speaker 2: It's written material about the warning about corruption and the
20:38
Speaker 2: big build, but they've clearly stood it up to get
20:40
Speaker 2: it out there on the front pages this afternoon. The
20:43
Speaker 2: ALP conference it wrapped up on the weekend, you know,
20:46
Speaker 2: a highly staged, managed, great big kumbaia. Everybody agreed on
20:51
Speaker 2: everything until it got to the issue of Israel and Palestine.
20:55
Speaker 2: But what I found, frankly soul destroying was this this
21:00
Speaker 2: inability of labor to demand that when they discuss Israel
21:05
Speaker 2: and Palestine that Hamas must disarm and the Palestinian authority
21:11
Speaker 2: must reform before any money goes into Gaza from Australian taxpayers.
21:16
Speaker 2: Well we know Jamie Penny Wong is pouring the millions
21:19
Speaker 2: back into Gaza, and she's got all of those ministers
21:22
Speaker 2: and the Prime Minister over the weekend, all of them
21:24
Speaker 2: going to ground, refusing to answer any of the questions
21:28
Speaker 2: that we've all had about these thirteen Australian men connected
21:32
Speaker 2: to ISIS in prison in Iraq that they have kept secret.
21:37
Speaker 2: I mean, they are treating voters like idiots.
21:40
Speaker 13: Here they absolutely are Peter, the doctor g Hard and
21:45
Speaker 13: the room with thirteen other Isis men over in Iraq.
21:49
Speaker 13: It is certainly concerning because the Labor government has a
21:53
Speaker 13: history here as we saw with the Isis brides.
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Speaker 11: And their children.
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Speaker 13: And I know we don't like using the term brides,
21:59
Speaker 13: but that's what they They've been in the headlines. But
22:01
Speaker 13: they came back even though they kept telling Australians that, oh,
22:04
Speaker 13: we're not assisting them. But let's be real here. And
22:07
Speaker 13: I think to your comment before, Peter, when we look
22:10
Speaker 13: at the national conference and the wording around her Mass
22:13
Speaker 13: and the Palestinian authority, the thing that I found really
22:16
Speaker 13: disappointing is when you are dealing with a terrorist organization,
22:19
Speaker 13: you don't weaken the language around it. If anything, we
22:22
Speaker 13: should be strengthening it and not rewarding her Mass for
22:26
Speaker 13: horrific behavior and atrocities of what they did on October
22:29
Speaker 13: seven and what else that came out of that with
22:31
Speaker 13: Richard Miles, who himself had reportedly said to the right
22:35
Speaker 13: faction of the Labor Party that the language wasn't right here,
22:39
Speaker 13: but he said to his side, let's still just vote
22:41
Speaker 13: on it to ensure that we have unity and I
22:44
Speaker 13: read that and I thought, there's the Labor Party that
22:47
Speaker 13: yet again they're going to put unity amongst themselves ahead
22:50
Speaker 13: of Australians and what's best for the country. And that's
22:53
Speaker 13: this continuum behavior and pattern that we see from this
22:56
Speaker 13: government where they put their own interests ahead of the
22:59
Speaker 13: rest of the nation.
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Speaker 2: Well, look, let's not forget to the Richard Mirles, a
23:04
Speaker 2: so called leader of the Rite, is a surrender monkey.
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Speaker 4: He's the Defense Minister.
23:07
Speaker 2: And if that's his attitude, if you know, he's more
23:10
Speaker 2: Chamberlain than Churchill, if he's into appeasement, he should resign
23:14
Speaker 2: that post to put someone in there who cares about
23:16
Speaker 2: holding a line and going to fight if necessary. James
23:19
Speaker 2: not on the isis of the trying to Berry. Of course,
23:21
Speaker 2: what about this exchange over that secret dinner last week
23:25
Speaker 2: between the PM and the son of the Chinese billionaire.
23:28
Speaker 2: We know that the father is facing allegations that he
23:32
Speaker 2: deceived the Australian Tax Office about his business affairs. The
23:35
Speaker 2: dad is a Philip Dongfang Lee. Now the PM, listen
23:40
Speaker 2: to the way he dodges scrutiny here with David pitt Spears.
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Speaker 10: Did you attend a dinner at the home of Felix
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Speaker 10: Lee in Point Piper.
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Speaker 3: I attend lots of functions. I attend lots of functions
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Speaker 3: in lots of places, including last night right here.
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Speaker 6: What about a dinner in Point Pipe?
23:56
Speaker 3: I attend lots of functions.
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Speaker 11: And you want to ask.
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Speaker 4: Decepted tricky?
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is becoming, this is really becoming his
24:06
Speaker 2: political persona adam in in the night. Later's got to
24:09
Speaker 2: payback every single dollar in the the you know, acclaimed
24:14
Speaker 2: one million donations they got from this dinner.
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Speaker 1: Surely well yeah, Peter, I mean, you know, Albanezi certainly
24:20
Speaker 1: loves a bit of hospitality, doesn't he. You know, this
24:24
Speaker 1: is a really bizarre one because yeah, okay, you're a politician.
24:28
Speaker 1: You go to a lot of dinners, you would know, Peter.
24:31
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of rubber chicken functions and
24:33
Speaker 1: you know, different sort of galla bank. What's he got
24:36
Speaker 1: to go to? Most of those dinners are not coming
24:39
Speaker 1: with a million dollar check attached. That we've been reportedly
24:42
Speaker 1: a million dollars at the multi tens of millions of
24:45
Speaker 1: dollars Point Piper mansion. That, by the way, apparently the
24:49
Speaker 1: Ato has some sort of caveat over. I mean, you know,
24:53
Speaker 1: beyond anything else who's doing the advancing for the prime minister,
24:57
Speaker 1: that this sort of food is allowed to occur, and
25:01
Speaker 1: then to be tricky about it. Well, you know we've
25:03
Speaker 1: all spoken about the hypocrisy around the way labor carries
25:08
Speaker 1: on about Oh, Gina rein Hart game I played na
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Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson. Well, you know, I'm sorry that was all.
25:14
Speaker 1: You know, Pauline Hanson never said, well, I may have
25:16
Speaker 1: a plane, but I don't know where it came from.
25:18
Speaker 1: But you know I get lots of planes, you know.
25:20
Speaker 1: I mean she came out and said it. Anthony Albanezi there,
25:24
Speaker 1: he won't even say confirmed that he was at the dinner.
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Speaker 1: The whole thing stinks. It looks really really bad. And
25:32
Speaker 1: you know, this is supposed to be the Party of
25:34
Speaker 1: the people, the Party of the workingman.
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Speaker 6: Peter, I, what a joke.
25:39
Speaker 2: Your point about advancing spot on, you know, because Albanzy
25:42
Speaker 2: has more people in his staff on his staff in
25:46
Speaker 2: his office than any prime minister in Australian history, and
25:49
Speaker 2: what not. One of them could dig into the back
25:52
Speaker 2: room of this young bloke and wonder why twenty five
25:55
Speaker 2: year old's got a multimillion dollar mansion and wants to
25:58
Speaker 2: sling you a million dollars be asking questions on that
26:01
Speaker 2: basis a line. Look, all of this makes me think
26:05
Speaker 2: he doesn't care about the next election, because I think
26:07
Speaker 2: he'll be long gone fingers crossed.
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Speaker 4: I'm right, but we'll see. Thank you to you both.
26:13
Speaker 4: Now you go first.
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Speaker 2: Night on News twenty four to a great panel like that,
26:16
Speaker 2: or right, we'll go to a break, but we'll come
26:17
Speaker 2: back because I want to look at this dire holding
26:20
Speaker 2: for Labor out of newspol of Southternoon, very bad for
26:24
Speaker 2: the premier, or she might be the premiere only for
26:26
Speaker 2: twenty four hours.
26:27
Speaker 4: We'll see. We'll get to that in the moment.
26:35
Speaker 2: Welco about coming out Victorian and Opposition leader Jess Wilson
26:38
Speaker 2: as she's spooked by the thought of facing off against
26:41
Speaker 2: Ben Carroll and her new energy policy. Have we finally
26:45
Speaker 2: dumped fossil fuel objections inside the Victorian Liberals?
26:49
Speaker 4: But first if it wasn't already bad enough for just
26:52
Speaker 4: Into Allen.
26:53
Speaker 2: New polling has dropped the Southternoon in the Australia, showing
26:56
Speaker 2: just how untenable her position as leader is. Labour's primary
27:01
Speaker 2: votes now at a very low twenty eight percent. The
27:04
Speaker 2: Coalition well ahead on a primary thirty one percent, one
27:07
Speaker 2: nation rounding out the pack on nineteen. But it's worth
27:11
Speaker 2: remembering the coalition's got a big margin to win government
27:14
Speaker 2: in its own right, it needs sixteen seats, something like
27:18
Speaker 2: a seven to eight percent swing. But what's most damaging
27:22
Speaker 2: here for Allen is the fact that only thirty two
27:24
Speaker 2: percent of voters favor her as premier. Jess Wilson's got
27:28
Speaker 2: a massive fifty one percent, so a statewide majority, and
27:32
Speaker 2: I'm whopping seventy one percent of Victorian voters so that
27:35
Speaker 2: they are dissatisfied with just into Allan. Now that's a
27:39
Speaker 2: record in Newspoll terms, making Allen the most unpopular premier
27:45
Speaker 2: in Australian political history. Jointed to me now to discuss
27:49
Speaker 2: all of this, Victorian political editor at The Australian, Anthony Galloway, Well,
27:55
Speaker 2: good news for us. In a Sans Anthony, we rebrand
27:58
Speaker 2: here at News twenty four Lorin the first night we're
28:01
Speaker 2: on air, we get confirmation that there will be a
28:05
Speaker 2: spill on the Victorian premier. That's what we're heading for.
28:09
Speaker 2: We'll go through those numbers in a moment. But what's
28:11
Speaker 2: the latest you're hearing tonight.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, your first night on air is one of the
28:18
Speaker 7: craziest days I've seen in Australian politics, where you've got
28:23
Speaker 7: a wide cross section of MPs and ministers. So you
28:27
Speaker 7: had two ministers from the left, Ingrid Skit and Gabrielle Williams,
28:31
Speaker 7: and two ministers from the right, Colin Brooks and Anthony Carbines,
28:35
Speaker 7: go to Premier Justinter Allen this morning and urge her
28:38
Speaker 7: to resign, informing her that she no longer has the
28:42
Speaker 7: support of the Labor Caucus, to Cinter aling just CenTra
28:46
Speaker 7: Allen refusing to resign, and then sending a letter to
28:51
Speaker 7: the Labor Parties organizational wing saying prepare for a six
28:56
Speaker 7: week leadership campaign, you know, four months out from the election.
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Speaker 7: Under Labour Party rules, if the leadership is contested, there
29:04
Speaker 7: has to be this campaign where both the membership and
29:07
Speaker 7: the caucus get the vote. Shortly after she did that,
29:11
Speaker 7: Ben Carroll, the Deputy Premier, informed her that.
29:15
Speaker 4: He is challenging.
29:16
Speaker 7: So as it stands, where heading to a caucus meeting
29:19
Speaker 7: tomorrow at ten am where there will be a spill.
29:23
Speaker 7: But Jacintarellen, as it stands tonight is saying, even if
29:25
Speaker 7: she loses that spill, which I understand she will overwhelmingly,
29:29
Speaker 7: she's going to contest the leadership again against against Ben Carroll.
29:36
Speaker 4: Yeah.
29:36
Speaker 2: I had a quick question to Georgie on this a
29:38
Speaker 2: little earlier. The rules at play about the Labor leadership
29:43
Speaker 2: in Victoria were determined by the caucus. So, just like federally,
29:48
Speaker 2: I guess the caucus can move emotion and change their
29:51
Speaker 2: rules about how you change the leader.
29:54
Speaker 4: Surely they could do that tomorrow.
29:56
Speaker 2: You know, they could do an indicative show of hands,
29:59
Speaker 2: spill the leadership, and then take another vote, presumably to
30:02
Speaker 2: say this will now be the one and only final decision.
30:05
Speaker 2: Given the proximity to the election, we will not go
30:08
Speaker 2: out to party red and file.
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Speaker 4: Is that possible.
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Speaker 7: It's absolutely possible, Peter, just as you mentioned, just as
30:17
Speaker 7: it is federally. So these rules are made by the caucus.
30:20
Speaker 7: They can be taken away.
30:23
Speaker 6: By the caucus.
30:24
Speaker 7: I tend to think, justsinter Allen, is you know a
30:27
Speaker 7: creature of the Labor Party that this is all of
30:30
Speaker 7: an idle threat, and many people believe that is that,
30:33
Speaker 7: you know, once a leader loses a spill, it's very
30:38
Speaker 7: rare that they can test the election. I think the
30:41
Speaker 7: only one I can think of in recent history was
30:43
Speaker 7: probably Malcolm Turnbull in two thousand and nine. I think
30:46
Speaker 7: it was when he was opposition leader and actually keeps
30:49
Speaker 7: a susue shock after he lost the spills. Yes, yes,
30:54
Speaker 7: I can't actually think of another example where a leader
30:58
Speaker 7: recently has lost a spill and then goes on to
31:00
Speaker 7: contest a leadership ballot. So I think this is all
31:03
Speaker 7: of an idle threat seenior figures in Victorian Labor Party tonight.
31:08
Speaker 7: I hope it is. They're urging justinter Allen that hey,
31:13
Speaker 7: if you lose a bill for the benefit of the
31:16
Speaker 7: party to not derail the party less than four months
31:19
Speaker 7: out from the November election, you can't force this on
31:22
Speaker 7: that you will not contest the leadership. Let's have a
31:25
Speaker 7: bloodless kind of, you know, handover of power to Ben Carol,
31:30
Speaker 7: given he is the only challenger.
31:33
Speaker 6: Now.
31:33
Speaker 2: One of the beauties that of having the same mobile
31:36
Speaker 2: number I have for about twenty five years is it's
31:39
Speaker 2: been well shared amongst the political types and I got
31:43
Speaker 2: just as many little bits of information from labor people
31:46
Speaker 2: as I did from liberals today, and a lot of
31:48
Speaker 2: them are saying that we don't necessarily think that Ben
31:52
Speaker 2: Carroll can win the election, but he'll save the furniture.
31:55
Speaker 2: It'll be he'll put us in a position we're perhaps
31:59
Speaker 2: out for one to only and then we're back and
32:02
Speaker 2: we're back in control, and we've learned the lessons of
32:05
Speaker 2: a pretty shocking eight years under Andrews. And of course, Allen,
32:10
Speaker 2: you've seen the numbers in news poll. What's your assessment.
32:16
Speaker 7: I think today's Newsport was extraordinary in the sense of
32:21
Speaker 7: it showed that one nation vote down on nineteen percent,
32:24
Speaker 7: you know, Coalition on thirty one, labor on twenty eight.
32:27
Speaker 7: Unlike any other recent poll it is showing. It is
32:30
Speaker 7: showing a two party contest between the major parties in Victoria.
32:35
Speaker 7: So perhaps I mean, I'm a bit biased towards newsporpt,
32:38
Speaker 7: but perhaps all the other polls had too much federal
32:41
Speaker 7: overlay and that it is a different dynamic in Victoria.
32:46
Speaker 11: The poll is being used by.
32:48
Speaker 7: Ben Carroll supporters and supporters of a change to argue, hey,
32:52
Speaker 7: there is this pathway to victory. It's just cinter Allen,
32:54
Speaker 7: that's been the drag on the vote. You know, seventy
32:58
Speaker 7: one percent dissatisfied. You mentioned that's a record in news
33:02
Speaker 7: poll history which goes all the way back to Jobiaki
33:04
Speaker 7: Pedson's dying days. So they're arguing there is a pathway
33:10
Speaker 7: that but we need to change the leader just center
33:12
Speaker 7: Allen is the key block to that pathway.
33:16
Speaker 4: Right, you're down at Parliament House. I let you go
33:18
Speaker 4: back to it.
33:18
Speaker 2: I know it's going to be a long night for you,
33:20
Speaker 2: as it is for everybody else. Thank you, Anthony Gallaway,
33:22
Speaker 2: Anthony of course, the editor there at The Australian for
33:25
Speaker 2: Victorian Politics. After the break, this leadership termil with Labor, Well,
33:30
Speaker 2: what does it mean for the Liberals? Opposition leader Jess
33:33
Speaker 2: Wilson joins me.
33:35
Speaker 4: Next, welcome back.
33:42
Speaker 2: Coming up, how Paul and Hands had responded to that
33:45
Speaker 2: loss in the Federal Court today to Green's Senator Maureen
33:49
Speaker 2: Marine Ferouki, Now, this was not a deformation action. This
33:53
Speaker 2: related to provisions and the very contentious Racial Discrimination Act.
33:57
Speaker 2: We'll talk to James ash you about that in a moment.
33:59
Speaker 2: Now back to Victorian Victorian politics, the state elections just
34:04
Speaker 2: four months away, and if the leadership changes inside Labor, well,
34:10
Speaker 2: what does that mean for the Liberal opposition who've been
34:12
Speaker 2: busy building its case, says the state's alternative government, the
34:16
Speaker 2: woman in the hot seat.
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Speaker 4: I was a leader.
34:18
Speaker 2: Jess Wilson joins me now from state Parliament. Okay, Jess,
34:22
Speaker 2: what's your reaction to the turbulence of today? Does it
34:26
Speaker 2: matter who you face in November?
34:31
Speaker 9: Good to be with you, Peter.
34:32
Speaker 11: It doesn't.
34:33
Speaker 9: It doesn't matter who the leader of the Labor Party
34:36
Speaker 9: is because it is the same corrupt government, the same
34:39
Speaker 9: record levels of crime, the same crippling debt, the cost
34:42
Speaker 9: of living crisis, the same potholes, whether it's just.
34:46
Speaker 11: Into Allen or Ben Carroll.
34:48
Speaker 9: Victorians don't need another unelected Labor premier. They need a
34:52
Speaker 9: fresh start, a new government, and a government that has
34:56
Speaker 9: a plan to deliver for Victorians. And that's exactly what
35:00
Speaker 9: me and my team have. We have a plan to
35:02
Speaker 9: fix Victoria and to ensure we give it the fresh
35:04
Speaker 9: start it deserves.
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Speaker 2: I'll get to your plan in a moment, because there's
35:09
Speaker 2: something very interesting that you're doing on energy, and I
35:11
Speaker 2: know where Victoria's are focused on cost of living. I
35:15
Speaker 2: have to get your reaction though, of a story that's
35:17
Speaker 2: broken this afternoon, our front page of the Age that
35:21
Speaker 2: suggests the premier zone senior advisors tried to warn her
35:24
Speaker 2: in writing in twenty twenty three that the big build
35:28
Speaker 2: and she was running it, she was the minister at
35:30
Speaker 2: the time, was being taken over by bi Kids and
35:33
Speaker 2: the CFMAU.
35:35
Speaker 4: So this is where the fifteen billion.
35:36
Speaker 2: Dollars of wasted taxpayer money comes from. And of course,
35:41
Speaker 2: if the reports are right tonight, she knew.
35:47
Speaker 9: Well, she knew far earlier than what she has claimed
35:50
Speaker 9: to have known.
35:50
Speaker 6: As well.
35:51
Speaker 9: She's always claimed that she first became aware of these
35:54
Speaker 9: allegations of corrupt behavior of criminality on government big bild
35:58
Speaker 9: sites after the Age broke down story in twenty twenty four.
36:02
Speaker 9: For what, these new revelations show that she knew far
36:05
Speaker 9: earlier than that, Peter, This is a premier who has
36:07
Speaker 9: been complicit in the largest corruption scandal in this state's history.
36:11
Speaker 11: And as you.
36:12
Speaker 9: Said, fifteen billion dollars at a minimum of Victorian taxpayer
36:16
Speaker 9: money has gone from government work sites into the pockets
36:20
Speaker 9: of criminals, and Jacinta Allen has refused to take any
36:23
Speaker 9: responsibility or any action to ensure it never happens again.
36:27
Speaker 9: Only a liberal and National's government will call a royal
36:30
Speaker 9: commission into the largest corruption scandal in this state's history,
36:34
Speaker 9: to ensure that we stamp out that corruption. We track
36:37
Speaker 9: down every single cent and we ensure it never happens again.
36:42
Speaker 2: Talk to me about the no confidence motion you're set
36:45
Speaker 2: to table tomorrow in the Chamber. Any chance that will
36:49
Speaker 2: get up and we can have an early election in Victoria,
36:52
Speaker 2: because we're basically in a campaign as it stands, and
36:55
Speaker 2: Victorian voters are desperate to have their say.
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Speaker 9: Well, they are desperate, and I think Victorians would love
37:03
Speaker 9: the opportunity to bring the election forward. We're moving a
37:06
Speaker 9: motion of no confidence in the Labor government tomorrow because
37:09
Speaker 9: this government, it is morally bankrupt. It no longer has
37:13
Speaker 9: the right to govern.
37:14
Speaker 11: On behalf of Victorians.
37:16
Speaker 9: Whether it's the fifteen billion dollars of corruption, the record
37:19
Speaker 9: levels of crime, Victorians who don't feel safe in their homes,
37:22
Speaker 9: in their streets, the crippling debt, the waste at the
37:25
Speaker 9: moment we've got the Commonwealth Games underwigh in Glasgow at
37:28
Speaker 9: the cost of the Victorian taxpayer, or the fact that
37:32
Speaker 9: our roads are littered with potholes. This government has lost
37:35
Speaker 9: the right to govern on behalf of Victorians and tomorrow
37:38
Speaker 9: in the Parliament, we will move a motion of no
37:41
Speaker 9: confidence in the government. Now, Peter, when we move this motion,
37:45
Speaker 9: we understood that we probably didn't have the numbers in
37:47
Speaker 9: the House to see it be successful. But tomorrow morning
37:51
Speaker 9: I expect we'll see many Labor MPs go into their
37:54
Speaker 9: caucus room and vote against the premier and say they
37:57
Speaker 9: have no confidence in the Premiere, and then come into
38:00
Speaker 9: the Parliament later that afternoon and vote the opposite direction,
38:04
Speaker 9: which just shows how dishonest these MPs are and how
38:08
Speaker 9: these MPs are not ensuring that we do have a
38:12
Speaker 9: fresh start and a true government that is going to
38:14
Speaker 9: deliver for Victorians.
38:17
Speaker 2: You know, the premier has been highly stage managed ever
38:20
Speaker 2: since her poles hit those rock bottom lows. I know
38:24
Speaker 2: you've just gone all around the state all eighty eight electorates.
38:28
Speaker 4: You've been out there.
38:28
Speaker 2: I know you haven't been staged managed to have seen
38:31
Speaker 2: some of the stuff on social media. So when you're
38:33
Speaker 2: out amongst real people, are they talking about all this
38:35
Speaker 2: sort of you know, internal entrails of Spring Sheet Spring Street.
38:41
Speaker 2: If they're not, what are they telling you, Jess.
38:46
Speaker 6: That's right.
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Speaker 9: So I spent the past thirty six days visiting every
38:49
Speaker 9: part of Victoria, all of the eighty eight electorates, and
38:53
Speaker 9: the purpose of this, Peter was to get out and
38:55
Speaker 9: meet Victorians where they are, in their homes, in their businesses,
38:58
Speaker 9: on their high streets, actually understand the issues that are
39:01
Speaker 9: affecting them, but also to share our plan and our
39:04
Speaker 9: solutions to fix Victoria and what they're experiencing, particularly in
39:09
Speaker 9: regional Victoria, are the fact that our roads are simply unsafe.
39:12
Speaker 9: We've got potholes craters on our highways and roads, which
39:16
Speaker 9: is not only a safety issue, but it's costing victorians
39:19
Speaker 9: as well. Every time they bust a tire or bust
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Speaker 9: a rim, it's costing them thousands of dollars.
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Speaker 11: But there is one number on the.
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Speaker 9: Lips of Victorians, and that's fifteen billion dollars.
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Speaker 11: This is cut through, Peter.
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Speaker 9: People are so angry that they've seen this fifteen billion
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Speaker 9: dollars taxpayer money go into the pockets of criminals at
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Speaker 9: the expense of our hospitals, our schools, lower taxes in
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Speaker 9: this state.
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Speaker 11: And so I've been.
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Speaker 9: Out on the ground sharing our plans to not only
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Speaker 9: fix our roads, our five billion dollar investment to fix
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Speaker 9: and repair our roads eliminating one million potholes, but also
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Speaker 9: to make sure that we reduce crime, that we lower costs,
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Speaker 9: and we lower taxes. We have the solutions to fix Victoria.
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Speaker 9: We cannot do it overnight. It is going to take time.
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Speaker 9: But my team. My team has the plan, We have
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Speaker 9: the solutions, and we can work with Victorians to give
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Speaker 9: Victoria the fresh start it needs.
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Speaker 4: Okay, before we go, you're holding up the plan there.
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Speaker 2: I have been critical of liberal oppositions in Victoria in
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Speaker 2: the past that have treated fossil fuels, particularly gas.
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Speaker 4: Like it's kryptonite.
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Speaker 2: You've got a plan out there that says you want
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Speaker 2: more secure energy, and you want that energy to be
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Speaker 2: affordable and reliable. Okay, give it to me straight. What
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Speaker 2: does that mean in practice, jess.
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Speaker 9: What it means is that gas is absolutely critical to
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Speaker 9: our energy needs here in Victoria, but also to Victoria's
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Speaker 9: economic future. If we're going to have successful businesses and
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Speaker 9: thriving industry here in Victoria, we desperately need more gas.
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Speaker 9: So over recent weeks, we've announced that we intend to
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Speaker 9: throw the door open to gas exploration in this state.
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Speaker 9: But just yesterday I announced that if we're elected in
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Speaker 9: November and I'm Victoria's next premiere. We will put in
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Speaker 9: place in energy security requirement. This will ensure that we
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Speaker 9: fill the looming shortfalls with the closure of your lawn
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Speaker 9: and other power stations in coming years, and we look
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Speaker 9: to fill that gap through contracting more gas for the state,
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Speaker 9: potentially more batteries, but certainly more gas to ensure that
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Speaker 9: we fix those short those short falls and we bring
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Speaker 9: down energy prices for both households and businesses.
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Speaker 2: Were not commence to be on the batteries, Jess. I'll
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Speaker 2: leave that there, but Ela Lunyah on the gas. Thank
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Speaker 2: you for joining me tonight. I know you're busy at
41:34
Speaker 2: Spring Street as well. Thank you very much. All right,
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Speaker 2: coming up, the response from One Nation after Paulin Hanson's
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Speaker 2: bid to overturn a racial discrimination ruling. We're thrown out
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Speaker 2: of court today. Past the rogue political campaign disguised as admit.
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Speaker 4: Care mail out. This could be duping you. That's next.
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Speaker 2: Welcome bad I lost today for Pauline Hansen in her
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Speaker 2: bit to overturn that landmark ruling that she'd racially villifi
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Speaker 2: Green Senator Marine Faruki when she told her political rival,
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Speaker 2: excuse my language here to piss off back to Pakistan.
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Speaker 2: So what does this mean for the One Nation leader? Well,
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Speaker 2: here to discuss this and more form a Liberal MP,
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Speaker 2: Nicole Flint and her chief of staff, One Nation Chief
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Speaker 2: of Staff James Ashby. Well, James, we're not going to
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Speaker 2: get into the legal detail of issue.
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Speaker 1: Writer.
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Speaker 2: Is she wrong in the court of public opinion, but
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Speaker 2: certainly in the eyes of the court and the.
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Speaker 4: Racial Discrimination Act. She lost her appeal in the Federal Court.
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Speaker 4: All you've got.
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Speaker 2: Left now is the High Court. Are you going to
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Speaker 2: take it further?
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Speaker 14: Well, Peter, I received the phone call today from a
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Speaker 14: former Federal Court judge who said the outcome of today's
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Speaker 14: decision it was intellectually dishonest and lazy, and so I
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Speaker 14: struggle to disagree. We're not happy with the decision. We
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Speaker 14: have to respect it as it stands. There were three
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Speaker 14: judges that made this decision. They're all unanimous in the
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Speaker 14: way in which they handed this decision down.
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Speaker 6: But it goes without saying there is grounds there for an.
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Speaker 14: Appeal or sorry, not an appeal, but to take this
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Speaker 14: now to the High Court. Whether they will accept that, well,
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Speaker 14: we'll find out in six months time. But we've got
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Speaker 14: a limited amount of time to do it, and again
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Speaker 14: it just costs so much money. This is lawfare at
43:26
Speaker 14: its worst, and it always comes from the Greens. You're
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Speaker 14: finding an increasing number of people just want to use
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Speaker 14: our laws against us to shut us up under eighteen C.
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Speaker 2: And I will remind people too. Tony Abbitt took it
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Speaker 2: to the election, Nicole Fleet. You'll remember this in twenty thirteen,
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Speaker 2: that the Coalition would fix eighteen C, that they would
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Speaker 2: repair what we all know are rich is with the
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Speaker 2: Racial Discrimination Act, and that was what he was elected
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Speaker 2: to do. And then when the legislation went to his
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Speaker 2: party room, all the wets like Craig Lorning another we've
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Speaker 2: just been elected on that promise, refused to back the legislation.
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Speaker 2: But this has got to be back on the table
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Speaker 2: surely for the Coalition.
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Speaker 8: Well, I hope so, Peter, And there is a look,
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Speaker 8: there is a fine line here. Obviously, I've been very
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Speaker 8: outspoken over the years about the vile abuse that women
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Speaker 8: in public life are subjected to. I'm one of those
44:22
Speaker 8: women that's had to put up with it. But the
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Speaker 8: matter that has just been before the court is on
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Speaker 8: such a low end of offense. I am astounded that
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Speaker 8: this decision was upheld. Now that's a matter for the courts, obviously,
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Speaker 8: and I hope that one nation do keep pursuing it,
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Speaker 8: although I hear James, what a horrific waste of money
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Speaker 8: to have to throw towards.
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Speaker 4: A court case.
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Speaker 8: So yes, we do need to see reform. However, we
44:51
Speaker 8: also need to do things like protect women, but protect
44:54
Speaker 8: our Jewish community. And what infuriates me more than anything
44:58
Speaker 8: is that where it are Jewish community, or were it
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Speaker 8: a woman like me or any other conservative woman like you, Peter,
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Speaker 8: there is no way that we would see this sort
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Speaker 8: of decision from judges. Every single time I've ever challenged anything,
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Speaker 8: it has been dismissed instantly because we are on the
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Speaker 8: wrong side of politics.
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Speaker 6: But I also think it's good to understand it's just
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Speaker 6: one thing.
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Speaker 14: You need to be offended or insulted to end up
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Speaker 14: in the same case as Paul and Hanson. And we're
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Speaker 14: staring down the barrel now in excess of one point six,
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Speaker 14: maybe close to two million dollars with the costs already,
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Speaker 14: that's how easy it is insult.
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Speaker 2: I will make the point that we're all on the
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Speaker 2: right side. We're all on the right side of the
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Speaker 2: ordinary common sense Australian person who looks at this and
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Speaker 2: shakes their head. I know your boss is fronting Paul
45:46
Speaker 2: Murray tomorrow night at nine o'clock. Don't miss that everyone
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Speaker 2: at home. But it was almost like she was in
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Speaker 2: the room of the Labor conference on the weekend, James,
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Speaker 2: I mean it completely spooked by her.
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Speaker 4: They even wheeled out their campaign.
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Speaker 2: Paul Eric said he never does media, but he was
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Speaker 2: out there with my colleague Andrew Klanew Have a listen.
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Speaker 15: As the polls show the coalition will not be able
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Speaker 15: to govern without One Nation. One Nation would not be
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Speaker 15: able to govern without the coalition, So at the next election,
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Speaker 15: the choice will be between a Labor government that's delivery
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Speaker 15: real change or an alternative of a chaotic and divided
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Speaker 15: coalition one nation government.
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Speaker 4: Now he does sound robotic. Is someone just sit in
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Speaker 4: my ear?
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Speaker 6: I agree with that.
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Speaker 2: But he's smart, he is shrewd. He's a good strategist.
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Speaker 2: But you've got even the rope, sir James.
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Speaker 6: Well, that's not what his labor colleagues have said.
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Speaker 14: You know, he's worked for previous ministers there in Canberra
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Speaker 14: and they've said he's very lazy, He's run two campaigns
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Speaker 14: in the past, one Againstcott Morris and won against Peter Dutton.
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Speaker 14: Now he's been fortunate enough to win those, but they
46:52
Speaker 14: weren't his strategies.
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Speaker 6: By the way.
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Speaker 14: He likes to use a lot of these third party
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Speaker 14: organizations to bring him resil and bring him slogan. So
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Speaker 14: you know we can all do that. But is he
47:04
Speaker 14: that shrewd? Is he that smart? I think he's desperate
47:07
Speaker 14: And the mere fact that he did that interview over
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Speaker 14: the weekend with your colleague shows to me we've fleshed
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Speaker 14: him out a little bit.
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Speaker 6: We know what his lines are going to be.
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Speaker 14: As robotic as they were, we now know what they are,
47:18
Speaker 14: so we can actually use that to our.
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Speaker 6: Advantage moving forward.
47:21
Speaker 14: So let's see how good he goes at this next election.
47:24
Speaker 14: I don't think there'll be the appetite for Australians to
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Speaker 14: vote for this labor lying government.
47:29
Speaker 6: We just it's lie after lie.
47:30
Speaker 14: I could keep that fire, the lie campaign going for
47:32
Speaker 14: the next twelve months and probably raise another fifteen meal.
47:35
Speaker 14: At the rate this government's going, they haven't learned the
47:38
Speaker 14: lesson stop lying to the Australian people. Instead, they just
47:40
Speaker 14: keep the habit up Paul Erickson. You've got a tough
47:43
Speaker 14: job ahead of you. And I'll tell you what you
47:45
Speaker 14: haven't faced one nation. You're like mongrels towards the coalition.
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Speaker 14: You haven't seen how we fight in the trenches. When
47:51
Speaker 14: it comes to this next campaign.
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Speaker 2: Nick, you and I have got a long history trying
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Speaker 2: to stop the call doing something is stupid as putting
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Speaker 2: in quotas for female politicians, right, and we get the
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Speaker 2: lectures from the left, the quotas being you serious about women? Well,
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Speaker 2: Joe and Kerner was installed, Carmen Lawrence was installed, Julia
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Speaker 2: Gillard was installed. Of course just into Alan she was installed.
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Speaker 2: They look like they might roll her tomorrow. What's the
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Speaker 2: point of having a quota if you roll your women anyway?
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Speaker 8: Well, I think the point of labor having the quotas
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Speaker 8: is that they're not necessarily appointing the best person for
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Speaker 8: the job, and that installing women as it is, as
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Speaker 8: is often the case, into leadership positions without them having
48:42
Speaker 8: won that position through their own work and work ethic
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Speaker 8: and also platform is doing for failure. And that's what
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Speaker 8: we're about to see again. And I can't wait and go.
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Speaker 8: Jess Wilson, bring an interview from her tonight, Peter, Thank
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Speaker 8: you to both.
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Speaker 4: I leave it there.
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Speaker 2: I'm just want to show people something that was sent
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Speaker 2: to me by a viewer. Have a look at this
49:02
Speaker 2: Medicare branding used on what is political mail? Now you'll
49:07
Speaker 2: open it thinking it's something about medicare, it's not. It's
49:10
Speaker 2: the comms allowance your money that a senator is using
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Speaker 2: to mail out labor propaganda. I'd also like to say,
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Speaker 2: have you noticed by a you backdrop? Look at this
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Speaker 2: over here, over here the flag. I want you to
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Speaker 2: fly the flag at home, but I can't say that
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Speaker 2: without putting my money where my mouth is. So thank
49:27
Speaker 2: you to the wonderful team at Sky News who put
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Speaker 2: the flag on the backdrop for all of us to
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Speaker 2: defend and honor every night that you watch me. Well
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Speaker 2: that's it, USE twenty four. Very happy to be here
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Speaker 2: under a new banner. I'll see you tomorrow night. Here's
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Speaker 2: Andrew