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  Speaker 1: from college football from rainy South, Florida, and there it
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  Speaker 1: was the Island game in college football on Sunday, Sunday Night,
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  Speaker 1: made for TV extravaganza. You have the national following good
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  Speaker 1: versus evil. Well, back in the old days it was
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  Speaker 1: Catholics versus convicts, but they don't say that anymore. Well
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  Speaker 1: some people do, but there you had the old school batch.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you're watching this or not. I
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  Speaker 1: had it on the background. I was not fully engaged
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  Speaker 1: in it, but I had it on the background. I
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  Speaker 1: was observing consuming the product. So if you didn't see this.
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  Speaker 1: It came down to a dramatic finish as the fighting
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  Speaker 1: Irish should rally back to tie the game, and then
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  Speaker 1: the Hurricanes and their idiot kicker, somebody named Carter Davis,
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  Speaker 1: which sounds like he's on the PGA tour somewhere. But
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  Speaker 1: Carter Davis hit a forty seven yard field goal with
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  Speaker 1: a little over a minute to go on the clock,
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  Speaker 1: the go ahead score, and did Notre Dame come back
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  Speaker 1: and win the game? Now they did not Carson Beck,
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  Speaker 1: the old Georgia quarterback, Carson Beck two hundred five yards
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  Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns in his Miami debut, and the
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  Speaker 1: Hurricanes who came in. Is there anything more useless than
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  Speaker 1: a preseason ranking in college football? They do that for TV.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, Carson Beck ti fis Miami came into the
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  Speaker 1: year ranked tenth, and so they knock off Notre Dame
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  Speaker 1: that was ranked six twenty seven to twenty four of
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  Speaker 1: the final in favor of the fellas from South Florida.
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  Speaker 1: So the better story, though, is in the losing locker room.
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  Speaker 1: We maintained that position. The better story is in the
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  Speaker 1: losing locker room. So let us discuss the question. Did
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  Speaker 1: coach Marcus Freeman's Notre Dame squad get out coached, out played,
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  Speaker 1: or out prepared, because for much of this game they
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  Speaker 1: were doing next enough. Now they didn't come back and
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  Speaker 1: tie the game. Light But I've got daily double zombies
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  Speaker 1: and maraj and we will combine all of these things
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  Speaker 1: together and we are going to make cotton candy, which
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  Speaker 1: is kind of what that Notre Dame defense was like
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  Speaker 1: for stretches in this game, they were like cotton candy.
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  Speaker 1: So a the biggest gripe and I have no skin
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  Speaker 1: in the game on this, but my biggest gripe if
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  Speaker 1: you're looking objectively about Notre Dame, is that they they
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  Speaker 1: came out they were not ready for the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the game here and there's no exhibition games in college football.
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  Speaker 1: This is how it goes. We've seen this a lot,
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  Speaker 1: but your big bad Notre Dame, and it was like
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  Speaker 1: the sleepy fighting Irish. There were the sleepy Irish there.
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  Speaker 1: Beginning of the game. Took him about, by my malor estimate,
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  Speaker 1: about seventy five percent of the game roughly to figure
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  Speaker 1: things out. And so generally speaking, they don't tell you
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  Speaker 1: to do that. It doesn't vote well for winning. And
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  Speaker 1: a Notre Name was down by not one but two touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: twenty one to seven going to the fourth quarter at
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  Speaker 1: seven points over the first three quarters of the game,
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  Speaker 1: and so it was an uphill battle. They have a
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  Speaker 1: new quarterback now in South Bend, the great CJ. Carr
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  Speaker 1: who CJ. Carr who was spotty and some people go
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  Speaker 1: he was great Okay, made some plays late. Overall, the
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  Speaker 1: numbers do not look all that bad if you're a
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  Speaker 1: casual observer of college football. He finished with two hundred
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  Speaker 1: and twenty something yards passing, and he had nineteen completions
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  Speaker 1: and all that a couple of touchdown. Did have an
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  Speaker 1: interception which bounced all over the place, and a rushing
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  Speaker 1: score with three twenty one to go in the game.
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  Speaker 1: That was what tied the game up. However, he was
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  Speaker 1: missing and when I was watching and I had it
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  Speaker 1: on the background, he was missing what looked to be
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  Speaker 1: open receivers. I saw multiple miss throws there that could
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  Speaker 1: have should have would have been either big plays or
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  Speaker 1: scoring plays or whatnot. So there was that, and you
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  Speaker 1: also have the fact that he's got the build up,
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  Speaker 1: which they mentioned to Timer to the grandson of an
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  Speaker 1: old Michigan coach, Lloyd Carr. Although you could say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can go down the list of anybody else name Car,
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  Speaker 1: David Carr, big big moment, not getting it done, that
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing. Anyway, the new Notre Dame quarterback Okay,
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  Speaker 1: not not horrific, not terrible, any like that, but now
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  Speaker 1: the Golden domers. So you can get the schedule, they're
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  Speaker 1: behind the eight balls. Well that's one game. There's now
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of teams getting the playoffs, so it's not
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  Speaker 1: the end of the world and all that, but you
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  Speaker 1: are behind the eight ball if your Notre Dame at
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  Speaker 1: this particular point. You start out zero to one and
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  Speaker 1: then suddenly everything snowballs and everything comes a referendum. You
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  Speaker 1: start losing. You lose another game that you're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's the game we should have won. We lost that
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  Speaker 1: when we lost the first game. Then start stacking up
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  Speaker 1: and up next. The Irish have a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a break, and then they will play Texas A and
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  Speaker 1: M and Purdue. I'm sick and tired of losing to Purdue.
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  Speaker 1: They'll play those games in south Man and then they
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  Speaker 1: go on the road after that and play a second
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  Speaker 1: division SEC team in Arkansas after that. All right, So
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  Speaker 1: the other part about this, when you break the game, now,
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  Speaker 1: what happened to the fighting Irish defense and the offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: When I was looking at the different matchups in college
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  Speaker 1: football and I was observing the breathless blow by blow
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  Speaker 1: reporting on what the teams are going to be like
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  Speaker 1: this year, there was a lot of chatter about how
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  Speaker 1: great the offensive line was going to be for Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 1: and how their defense was going to be wonderful. I
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  Speaker 1: was not impressed. I was not impressed. Well, you know
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  Speaker 1: to name out a change toward the game. Well, you
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  Speaker 1: being such a hater, all right, let me explain. So
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  Speaker 1: the defense supposed to be elite. I didn't see elite.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see elite? Maybe maybe I missed it. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: I had to come out on the background, So maybe
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  Speaker 1: I missed the elite defense because I didn't see that.
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  Speaker 1: I was told this is a nasty defense. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: really see that. And this is going to be the
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  Speaker 1: thing that pushes them because they have a first time
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  Speaker 1: starting quarterback CJ. Carr, so this defense was going to
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  Speaker 1: lead them there and all that. And now Carson Beck,
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  Speaker 1: who some people think is going to be wonderful playing
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. And Carson Beck, I believe he tried to
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  Speaker 1: go to the NFL and the NFL said, you're not
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  Speaker 1: really really ready. I remember reading about that, hearing about that. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Beck took the NIL bag. He goes down to Miami
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  Speaker 1: and he had surgery on his elbow between the end
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  Speaker 1: of last season and this season. He walks into hard
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  Speaker 1: Rock Stadium, and by college football standards, he carved up
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  Speaker 1: what was supposed to be a great Miami defense for
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  Speaker 1: again about three quarters of the game, like it was
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  Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving turkey, and so he had that and then
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  Speaker 1: the numbers were there and he got the big check
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  Speaker 1: and all that good for him. Congratulations. The offensive line, though,
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  Speaker 1: which is supposed to be the meat and potatoes. Again,
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  Speaker 1: this is based on the scouting report on the fighting
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  Speaker 1: irish here the offensive line which Freeman's talked up. The
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  Speaker 1: head coach there you look at him, and they were
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  Speaker 1: like manhandled at times by the University of Miami defense
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  Speaker 1: in the trench warfare, which did not go for much
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  Speaker 1: of this game in favor of Notre Dame. And for
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  Speaker 1: now you put Notre Dame. I have them down on
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  Speaker 1: my scorecard as overhyped, over ranked, did not look like
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  Speaker 1: the six team in the country for the first three
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  Speaker 1: quarters of that game. And the fact that they lost
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  Speaker 1: the game, you say, you say under delivering in that
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  Speaker 1: first game, and he said, well, it's not fair. It's
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  Speaker 1: only one game. Oh okay, this is all we have
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  Speaker 1: to judge them at this particular point is one game.
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  Speaker 1: And they've got the biggest brand in all of college football.
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  Speaker 1: You know it, I know it, every man, woman and
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  Speaker 1: child knows it. Notre Dame. And that's it, right. They
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  Speaker 1: are bigger than college football. They represent an entire religion.
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  Speaker 1: And they went out there and played like zombies. They
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  Speaker 1: played like zombies for a good stretch of that night
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  Speaker 1: in prime time, in prime time. And Marcus Freeman, he's
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  Speaker 1: got all you know, he's been to the Tony Robbins
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  Speaker 1: Seminar's got all the buzzwords, all the terms, he got
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  Speaker 1: everything on culture, grit, We've got all that, Notre Dame football, physicality,
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  Speaker 1: all that. Yeah, okay, and the lights went on there,
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  Speaker 1: little rainy, little condition is not the greatest, but that's
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  Speaker 1: what you expect South Florida this time of the year.
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  Speaker 1: And they they bent and eventually broke because they lost
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  Speaker 1: the game. And now they can play the blame game,
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  Speaker 1: which is always a fun game to play, the blame game.
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  Speaker 1: Who do you blame? Who you're gonna blame? All right,
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  Speaker 1: So you're supposed to be the six ranked team according
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  Speaker 1: to the preseason ranking, and these early season made for
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  Speaker 1: TV games measuring early measuring stick, right, early measuring stick.
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  Speaker 1: You don't get any kind of mulligan in college football?
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  Speaker 1: And where was that close out punch? They did come back, right,
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  Speaker 1: they came a magic fourth quarter magic, But you don't
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  Speaker 1: get credit for fourth quarter magic when you lose the game.
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  Speaker 1: When you lose the game, you don't get credit for
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  Speaker 1: coming back and tying the game because you lost it
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  Speaker 1: on a field goal late, So you don't get credit
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  Speaker 1: for that. That's generally how that works. Close, but no
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  Speaker 1: victory cigar for the fighting average. Now on the other side,
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  Speaker 1: the last word here are you buying? The Miami Hurricanes
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  Speaker 1: are back Miami football? If you're old, you remember when
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  Speaker 1: Miami dominated college football million years ago, back in the
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  Speaker 1: Stone Age? And are they back? Are they an apex predator?
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  Speaker 1: Now in college football? The Hurricanes have returned, So the
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  Speaker 1: U is back. No, I'm not there yet either. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not listen. There were some good things there for the Hurricanes,
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  Speaker 1: and you look at the big picture. They've been teasing
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  Speaker 1: you for several years there in Miami. Mario Cristibaal, the
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  Speaker 1: coach who was supposed to fix everything, hasn't fixed everything yet.
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  Speaker 1: Does this count as a signature win for you? Beat
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame? And I saw the stat that Notre Dame
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  Speaker 1: hasn't beaten Miami in Miami since nineteen seventy seven. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: they don't play all the time. They don't play every year.
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  Speaker 1: They did for a stretch, but they don't play every year.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, the coaching staff there, Mario crystaball in Miami,
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  Speaker 1: they're all excited they won the game. He but I
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  Speaker 1: would hold off on the parade down Biscayne Boulevard there yet,
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  Speaker 1: so we can crank up the old. Pump on the brakes,
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  Speaker 1: can pump the brakes right there, pump the brakes on
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  Speaker 1: this and again. He said, well, it's unfair, you're saying
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  Speaker 1: you're ripping Notre Dame. And I haven't taken some shots
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  Speaker 1: at Notre Dame because they had higher expectations than Miami,
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  Speaker 1: even though Miami was a top ten team. You just look,
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  Speaker 1: He's like, is this I'm not gonna say I'm in
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  Speaker 1: on this again. The quarterback look good. I thought that
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  Speaker 1: Carson beck Beck for stretches looked good. He was relatively solid,
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  Speaker 1: didn't throw up in his cleats, which is always a
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  Speaker 1: step in the right through the bar is very low.
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  Speaker 1: You did not puke in your cleats, and not the
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  Speaker 1: second coming of Vinnie Testa Verdi or Dick and Dayton's
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  Speaker 1: favorite quarterback Bernie Kozar, not the reincarnation of either one
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  Speaker 1: of those guys. And the Kings had that player last
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  Speaker 1: year who was the number one overall pick the entire draft,
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  Speaker 1: and he's now playing toiling with the Tennessee Titans. It
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  Speaker 1: didn't really matter that they by NFL standards, they had
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  Speaker 1: a top quarterback last year and put up some nice
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  Speaker 1: numbers in Miami didn't. At the end was not standing
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  Speaker 1: there smiling and flexing and all that stuff. So the
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  Speaker 1: other part of this being a little gun shy with
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  Speaker 1: the Miami Hurricanes is that they've I feel like they've
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  Speaker 1: done this kind of thing. They don't do it every year,
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  Speaker 1: but the last ten years or so, there have been
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  Speaker 1: some teases. There's been some molments here where they've come
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  Speaker 1: out of the gates and they've gotten a nice win
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  Speaker 1: and then they have the flashy opener the Rasmataz. It
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  Speaker 1: was all excited, all right, there you go, Miami, get
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  Speaker 1: old national attention going there, and then by week number
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  Speaker 1: six they're losing to they play Louisville. In weeks they
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  Speaker 1: lose to Louisville, there'll be seven people watching that game
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  Speaker 1: and they'll lose, right And you have the defense that was,
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  Speaker 1: I guess supposed to be a Miami defense. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't know what to expect. We thought they'd be okay,
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  Speaker 1: and they were good for a good stretch of the game.
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  Speaker 1: But late in the game, Notre Dame was able to
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  Speaker 1: get back and tie the game. And there was some
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  Speaker 1: mistakes for the defense there late in the game and
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  Speaker 1: gave up seventeen points in the fourth quarter. And so
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  Speaker 1: that's your statement win early for the Miami Hurricanes. It's
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  Speaker 1: also a warning sign. It's a bit of a warning
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  Speaker 1: sign in there that you're supposed to close the game
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  Speaker 1: out and not have to depend on your idiot kicker
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  Speaker 1: there to win the game late and they were clinging.
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  Speaker 1: They were holding on like a cart a cat hanging
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  Speaker 1: those monologues in the last couple of weeks about arch Manning.
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  Speaker 1: Holy crap, that guy sucks man. What a turd arch Manning.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Let's call it like it is. Here's that's the guy.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Everyone's in hyping up arch Manning? Are you kidding me? Wow?
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: So arch Manning he was the consensus Heisman Trophy favorite,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: which tells you nobody knows anything. Dumb du dumb, dumb dumb.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: There he was all the hype and got out there
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Arch Manning, and it was his world. And how did
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: he do? Like a house of cards, came tumbling down, down, down,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: down down. He crumbled under the weight of the immense pressure. Now,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: if you add up all of the yards, he ended
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: up with two hundred and eight total yards, although the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: numbers are even misleading. Even the final numbers are misleading.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Arch Manning ending up with one hundred and seventy yards,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: ten rushing attempts for thirty eight yards, and a loss.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: To begin as a starter in Austin his first job
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: as the starter. He started a couple of games last year,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: but he was not them man. Now he's the man,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and now he is a loser to begin his time
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: with Texas. So question, as we discussed the question, did
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: arch Manning get exposed by Ohio State or was this
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: just a masterclass by the buck guys defense in this
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: particular game. So I've got commandeered biblical and crayon, and
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: we will combine all of these things together and we
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: are going to make your babushkas favorite favorite chocolate, favorite chocolate.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: So number one, I said number on Arch Manning, let's
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: call it like it is. Everyone was watching. He was
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the story and it was like junior high school. And
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: he got pantsed. He got panted. All of college football
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: going wild and all my good. Manning's debut it went
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: over about us.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: His debut was a full time starter for the Texas Longhorns.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Was about as successful as when Google put out Google Glass.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Do you remember that a few years back? Google Glass?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Nobody really wanted it, It didn't. It was terrible. You
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: want to go old school Coca Cola. Back in the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: day they said we're going to change Coca Cola new Coke.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: And that was a nightmare. That was a disaster and horrific, horrific.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: That's what it felt like. All the hype, all the sizzle,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: all the build up everything, and then the curtain went
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: up and the flag is up, let's start the race,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and turns out the car did not leave the starting gate. Man,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: you waited for that whole maning kid thing to take
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: off right the next in the lineage or the Manning family.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: There.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: He was supposed to walk on water. He's a Manning.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: That's what Mannings do. They walk on water. Instead, Arch
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Manning went out there and he sank like a if
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you drop a safe in the East River in New York,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: right to the bottom, right to the bottom. How bad
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: was it? So Maning commandeered the vomit comet. He was
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: right there. He was in the front of the comet,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: right there, flying the vomit comet. Now, because the final
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: numbers are very misleading, because you got to look at
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the context of the game for the first seventy five
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: percent of the if you saw it, you know what
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I'm about to say. So the first three cores of
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the game, Arch Manning completed nine of fifteen passes for
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: thirty eight yards thirty eight yards passing going to the
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter against Matt Patricia, the Lion trash, Matt Patricia,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: the old rocket scientists from the Patriots, Matt Patricia's Buckeye's
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: defense which came out like a boa constrictor. Did they
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: play well? Yes they did, But how much of that
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: is on Arch Manning? And how much of that is
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: that This is just a good defense. Listen. You're supposed
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: to rise to the challenge. Isn't that what all this
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: is about, right, athletic competition, rising to the challenge in
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the moment, getting it done. And what is Arch May twenty?
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I think he's twenty one. I believe I've been around
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: a couple of years. There. You drop him in there,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, you drop him in there, and he's
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: got the last name Manning, he's got the pedigree, and
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you dangle him. It's like dangling a raw stake in
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: front of a pit bull for that buck guy's defense.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: And they were not just playing Arch though Ohio State.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: It was not just a matchup against Arch Manning. They
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: were playing the mythology of the Manning family and all
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: that had been out there, the mythologies. He said, well,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: it's not helping Arch Manning. At this point, they he
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: did not play well. Texas lost the game, always scored
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: seven points. You have to step up on the big stage.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: He did not step up on the big stage. You
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: think of this like a pipe, right, pipes out there
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: and they often will burst from pressure. So I guess
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Arch Manning is a US steel pipe that got a
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: lot of pressure and just burst and that's it. Cere
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: he was drowning from flop sweat in this game. And
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the excuse makers are out there, they're like, well, it's
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: not his fault, just guy's fault, that guy's fault, blah
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And the Manning name at page
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: two here, I've seen some of the Manning name conversation. Well,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: he's wearing a giant bullseye. It's not fair to him,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and everyone wants to be the guy who exposes are
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: arch Manning in Ohio State's already done that, exposing him
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: as overrated, over rad Well, so do you feel bad?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Here's the question. Do you feel bad for arch Manning
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: having the immense pressure for the Texas Longhorns and not
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: living up to the immense pressure. So I'll go first here,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: absolutely not, absolutely not. And it is a privilege to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: be in that situation, to have the keys to a
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: big time college football program. Granted a rather spotty resume
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: for Texas for many, many years, but still you're in
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: there and this is your opportunity. You're giving the keys
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to ride the very expensive automobile, and that's life in
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the big city and in many ways, this is a
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: biblical story as old as time. Right, You've got the
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Manning family, Gibbeth and the Manning family take it away.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: So how am I supposed to sit here and feel
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: bad for Arch Manning, the Golden Arch. Not the Golden Arches,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: that's something else, that's a fast food restaurant. But the
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: golden arch Arch Manning, who I believe. The number I
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: saw was he makes six point eight million dollars in
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: nil money, six point eight million for Arch Manning without
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: having to earn any of it. He didn't get the
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: money after he showed that he could play. He got
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the money based on what he got, the money based
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: on DNA. And he's not even the son of Peyton
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: or Eli. People sometimes confuse that, no, no, no, he's
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: the other Manning brothers kid, and he played like the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: other Manning brother kid in this game. But think about that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: You're in your early twenties, you're Arch Manning. You're making
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: roughly one hundred and twenty three times what the average
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: American salary is to go out and play college football
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: at Texas, And how's the return on investment? The ROI
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: going for the Texas Longhorns and the money the Boosters
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: are paying because it's coming out of Boosters payroll. Imagine
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: like you're sitting in the front row, you're at the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Rolling Stones back in the day. You're at the Rolling
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Stones there and and Mick Jagger says, you know what
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna send out my I'm gonna send
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: out my roady to sing satisfaction. I'm just gonna send
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: them out and see what we can do. You'll be like, well, no,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I paid I paid for your old Wrinkley ass to sing.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't pay for your your roady to sing. Well, no,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I mean that's what happened. Not much bang for your buck.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Not a lot of bang for your buck. As arch
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Manning goes down the comet, the vomit comet on fire,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: down down, down, down now now final point. So I
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: saw this quote by Steve Sarkisian. Sark Now, I have
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: a bit of a history of Sarkisan going back many
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: many years. I will not get into that here. I
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: will not bore you with the past. But the quote
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: from Steve Sarkisian, the former drunk USC coach. He said
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the expectations were out of control on the outside Sarkisian
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and said, but I'd say let's finish the book before
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: we judge it. He said of arch Manning, quote continues,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: this is one chapter and we've got a long season
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: to play to go play, said Steve sarkeizan close quote. Okay,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: so he's like, hey, you know, it's one chapter, it's
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: early on, and let's hold off on that. So should
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: we wait? Should we wait until the end of the
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: season to judge arch Manning said unfair to dog pile
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: on top of arch Manning at this particular point. So
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: my response is, what is this the is Oprah back
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: with her book club? Like, what do is we have
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: to wait to the end of this That's not exactly
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: how any of this works. We're not waiting for the
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: book to be in bookstores. We're not doing that. We judge.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: The great thing about this job is we judge every
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: chapter of the book. After every chapter of the book,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: every paragraph of the book. We're there, every typo, everything,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: everything in the footnotes. We're examining all of that. And
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: that's the gig. That's the job description here, that's how
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: it goes. You don't drop a maning name into the
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: sec frying pan right, and then ask for a grace period,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: like you're actually a cooking some kind of croc pot
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: recipe or something like that. That's not how it goes.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Arch Manning the debut chapter as a starter forget about
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: last year, and they played a couple of games and
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: started a couple games last year as a starter. Arch
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: manning debut chapter was read like it was written in crayon,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: like by a four year old in crayon. And you
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: want to wait till the season's over, right, Well, we'll
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: wait till the season's over, That's what Sarkisian says. Oh, well,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: wait till the season's over. But first, the problem is
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: we have a talk show to do every single day,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: every day. Right. We're not librarians. We're not waiting for
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the book to get out there. No, no, no, We
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: are lunatics with microphones, is what we are. And so
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: that's our worst And the hype was a hot air
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: balloon for arch man Was I guilty of it? Yes,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I love a good story. I'm I'm all about the story,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: and I bought into it. And he made me look
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: like a donkey, a total jackwagon the way arch Manning
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: went out out there and played, but it's a hot
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: air balloon and then all of a sudden there's a problem.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: The thing catches on fire. It was a noseedied right
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: into a cactus patch. Is what arch Manning did in
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: that first game in Columbus. And you can sell me,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: you know, the de Maning nonsense and all this stuff,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: but you got to read the fine print, and I
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: guess it was written in invisible ink. Now is there
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: a redemption arc for arch Manning or is this the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: beginning of a bust narrative that will not end? So
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: it is obviously a bust narrative at this particular point.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: There's no if sands or butt's about it. It's a
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: bust nerve and it's up to arch at this point
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: how this is going to go. If it's a comeback story,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: you gotta do it against better opponents that you played
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Ohio State. That is a measuring stick game, and you
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: went out there and you didn't measure up. Texas scored
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: seven points. So if you go out there, if your
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: arch Manning and light it up against nowhere, you and
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: some of these other crappy teams that are on the schedule. Okay, fine,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: and then you're gonna get into the Southeastern Conference, and
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen the manage You've been telling me for years,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: this is royalty, this is football royalty. And royalty gets
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: knocked down, and the kingdom it doesn't obviously crumble overnight
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: when royalty gets knocked down. It's the Shakespearean set up.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Some are predicting that you'll have the fall, the humiliation,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and then the redemption and you rise back up, or
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: you don't have that and you have bust with a
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: capital B. And that opening performance. That opening performance was
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: a was space shuttle like one of the most traumatic
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: events of my childhood when we all rallied around the
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: television to watch the Challenger take off and then they
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: had this thing called the o ring. I didn't know
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: what an old ring was. I was a kid at
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the time, but I learned what an old ring was.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: And the old ring causes your shut all the old kaboom. Yeah, yeah,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: it's a small crack, big explosion, small crack, big explosions.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: So the other thing is did arch Manning? Did arch
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Manning play himself out of the Heisman race after one game?
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: So I would say Heisman forget about it? We do
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the show today, and today you'd have to say there's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: no chance cancel Christmas, no gifts for arch Manning. That
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: dream dead. Today's labor Day. As we're doing the show
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: in real time, Dad, Dad, Dad did. The Heisman voters,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: they're gonna remember this. This was a big game, and
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to win two big games to make
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: up for this. If you're arch Manning, you're gonna have
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: to outperform two of the better opponents Texas has down
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the line in order to make up for this performance,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to be relatively great the rest
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: of the season. But the Heisman voters are not gonna
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: sit around and say, oh, I remember that time that
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: arched through for one hundred and seventy yards and had
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: almost nothing through three quarters against Ohio State. Let me
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: give him the hardware anyway, let me give him the trumpe. No,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: that's not that's not gonna happen, So forget about that.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: If he rattles off a ten game heater and arch
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Manning is cooking and throwing three four five touchdowns a
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: game and he comes back swinging, we can revisit this conversation.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: But we're doing the conversation today, and if he does
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: end up turning things around, you said about baptism by
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: fire all that stuff, But what I saw I was like, oh, man,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I remember like some of the college quarterbacks who got
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of hype and didn't really live up to
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the hype. And that I thought some other guys in
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the NFL. I know, this college is not the NFL,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: but one of them relate to the Manning family connected
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: at the hip and that was when Peyton Manning. There
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: was a great debate should Peyton Manning or this guy
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: named Ryan Leaf be the top pick of the draft
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: years ago? And well we know what happened. Saw a
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: lot of Ryan Leaf two point zero in Arch Manning.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: He had the Manning nameplate, he had that going for him,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: but the rest of it not so much. Now either way,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: we are going to find out fast. In fact, someone
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: said we've already found out, but we'll find out fast.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: If Arch Manning is the heir to the throne. Didn't
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: look like it at all against Ohio State, or if
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: this is just some kid that showed up to the
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: coronation and you know we're in the crown and then
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: tripped on the red carpet, got a bloody nose, and
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: it's just a hot mess because it looked like a
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: real hot mess, real, real, real, just disgusting. And did
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: get some good names out of it, which was good.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Had some good jokes at the expense of arch manning,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: some of them. I enjoyed quite a bit. We'll take
• 32:55
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• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Ben, Okay, so less than forty eight hours after being
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: released by the Red Sox, Walker Bueller and the Phillies
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: reached an agreement and Bueller will be implemented in their
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: starting rotation. Ben, did the Dodgers miss an opportunity at
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: a reunion with Bueler?
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: No, he's cooked, he's done. He was terrible with the
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Red Sox all season, and I wish him well with
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the Philly But that's a The Phillies needed somebody because
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Wheeler's out for the year. Zach Wheeler's out for the year,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: and so there was nobody else available. They can't trade
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: for anybody of the deadlines pass, so they're taking a
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: flyer on Walker Buehler, and he looks absolutely cooked. The
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Dodgers have their own issues. They got they got problems everywhere.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Next, an online poll conducted by the Action Network show
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: that Aaron Rodgers was voted the most annoying player in
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: the NFL. Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes rounded out the
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: top three. Ben, do you agree with the results from
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: this poll?
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Well, that's that's there. I don't do as you know,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I don't do polls. Lorena, I do I know this.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I called you? He does that job by you? Yeah,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I know, listen, I don't. I don't pay attention to
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. My my issue here my at the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: very top of the people that annoyed me, Kyler Murray
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: right there at the very top. Deshaun Watson is high
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: up there. You know, I don't get right of that.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Mahomes and Kelsey and all that, those are the ones
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: that annoyed me. Uh So I don't. I don't care
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: about those results.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Next massage, Watson should have been number one. Okay, it
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: was report that ESTN block Jason Kelcey from contributed to
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: the YouTube inaugural stream of the Chiefs versus the Chargers
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: in Brazil.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Ben, is this like a big deal. Well, it's good
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: because it's good for us. We don't have to see
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: a Kelsey for another three hours on television, so that's
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: to me, that's a good thing. But I don't understand
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  Speaker 1: why TV networks do this. Like, if you're ESPN, wouldn't
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: you want your guy who works for you to be
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: exposed to that audience that's gonna be watching that game
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Chargers in Brazil. He's made a
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: big audience on YouTube. I don't understand why you would
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: not want that. It doesn't make a lot of sense
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: to me the logic behind that, But hey, that's why
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: these executives get paid all the big money. There. It
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: is Mallard of the third degree. Bre you fail, No, no, no,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: you fail. Get out of here. Bre You're done, Brie,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: It's all over.
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  Speaker 2: Now, come on, hey, you sports figure guy or girl?
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Were you talking to so here? Some intertant advice? Hold
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: that on. No one's paid attention to me for ten
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: whole second. And if you don't like it, in no
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: way we go. It's the insant advice line on screen radio.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Who needs our advice? In the world of sports? Well
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: given the favorite status for the Heisman Trophy, the number
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: one overall the rankings, the Texas Longhorns. Advice to Arch Manning,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: who went out there and rode the vomit comet against
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State, the next to the Maning Royal Family. You're
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: alive on the air when you hear my voice at
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  Speaker 1: eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. Advice to Arch Manning, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: line one, you're on the Airline one. Go yeah, show
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  Speaker 1: up to the twenty twenty six Malar Meet and greet
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  Speaker 1: in Vegas. There you go that sounds like slug in Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to your line too. You're on the air
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  Speaker 1: advice to arch Manning. Line two, Morning time.
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  Speaker 2: It's a Nike efat couple jumping the pool. Is that
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: considered skinny dippings?
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: That's good point? Probably not. Let's go to you online. Three.
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  Speaker 1: You're on the air. It's the incident this time we're
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: giving advice to arch Manning after he wrote the vomit
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  Speaker 1: comment against Ohio State. Hello, you're on the airline three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Man, we can solve this difficulty by declaring Dravis Kelsey
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  Speaker 1: the greatest podcaster. Oh my god, please pathetic. You're on
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: a line for Hello. Line four, you're on the airline
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  Speaker 1: for are giving advice to arch Manning. Line four, you
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  Speaker 1: got a clear plane like his son, like his old dad.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Archie Manning is a grandfather. I think you meant to
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: say a line five. You're on the airline five. Hello,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: become a stripper.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I'd give you twenty bucks for a laftdance. Best.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. On that line six, Hello, Line six, you're
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: on the airline State. That was for a dog. Line
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  Speaker 1: six Hello. If that's how her promo, just reference the
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  Speaker 1: door Sanders of the sawn at Barry. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't listen to the promos. Hello, Line one, you're
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: on the airline one. Hello next time, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: sean hood guy but calls back and let us know.
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  Speaker 1: Line too, you're on the airline too. Hello, David say,
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  Speaker 1: looks like worn out tune. Okay, thank you for that.
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  Speaker 1: That's lucky Tony in the bay. Line three, you're next.
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  Speaker 1: It's the instant of ice line for arch Manning. Hello,
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  Speaker 1: Line three, five hundred quarterback. We'll do one more, only
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: one more of it's good. I'll take credit. If not,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: i'll blame Brie. Go ahead, Brie, pick the final number. Five.
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  Speaker 1: You're on the airline five. Go You weren't fast enough.
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