Latest / Family Tree Food Stories / September 11 Stories: Food, Memories, and Healing After 9/11, Patriot Day
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- 0:07Hello everybody.
- 0:08Welcome back to another episode of Family Tree Food and Stories, the podcast where
- 0:13food meets family meets memory meets.
- 0:16Well, all things delicious and a little bit more intriguing or
- 0:20a little intriguing at times.
- 0:22If you tuned in last week, you heard our conversation about food crimes.
- 0:29Yeah, right.
- 0:30Food is usually comforting, but sometimes in the wrong hands.
- 0:34Well, you get the picture, but today Sylvie and I are pausing
- 0:39for a different kind of story.
- 0:41This is a special edition.
- 0:43It was on September 11th in 2001 that our world changed overnight.
- 0:49I don't think any of us can actually ever get that out of our mind.
- 0:53Those of us who experienced it as buildings fell, we stood up and we
- 0:57united and vowed never to forget.
- 1:01The great thing is that the rest of the world did the same with us too.
- 1:04Stories emerged of neighbors helping neighbors.
- 1:08And strangers coming together to share grief and well yes food too.
- 1:14Chefs, churches, community groups all stepped in.
- 1:17Chefs like Ruth Reel who organized cornbread suppers for first responders
- 1:21and those who had been displaced.
- 1:23Their message was clear.
- 1:25Food isn't just sustenance for the body, it's sustenance for the soul.
- 1:30Yeah.
- 1:30. You know, and it's all about these memories.
- 1:33And some of us have stories to tell about what we were doing on nine 11.
- 1:37I just happened to have one.
- 1:38It is food related.
- 1:40. It was one of the most beautiful days in Kentucky in September.
- 1:44We get some really great weather blue skies.
- 1:46Gorgeous.
- 1:47I was taking my mother home during her final illness to her birthplace.
- 1:51It's about 80 miles from Lexington West Liberty, Kentucky, just
- 1:55the tiniest place on earth.
- 1:57The kind of place where at the courthouse, the old fellas show
- 1:59up, , and trade tales and stories.
- 2:01And we stopped at the only fast food place in town.
- 2:05It may have been the only real restaurant.
- 2:07It was McDonald's, and it so happened that Ronald.
- 2:11Ronald McDonald was making an appearance as a promotional event.
- 2:16I hope that he had someone to show him out of there how he could get home, but
- 2:20he would never know how special that visit with Ronald McDonald was to this woman
- 2:26in the final days of, , serious illness.
- 2:29And, I'll always remember that.
- 2:31And I think you've got a story about your dad on nine 11.
- 2:34Well, you have a picture of your mom actually taken with Ronald
- 2:37Yeah, I've gotta try to find that.
- 2:40You know, moving is, is tough, Nancy, you lose all kinds of stuff, right?
- 2:44But you have the memories, which is good.
- 2:47. Nine 11,, I remember it very clearly myself.
- 2:49It was a gorgeous day up in Westport, Connecticut, and I was driving
- 2:53to a meeting to meet a friend and all of a sudden I'm hearing
- 2:56some chatter going on on the car radio and couldn't figure it out.
- 2:59Well, when we got to her place, then we realized exactly what was going on, but.
- 3:05The thing that we don't realize or we don't remember and we probably didn't
- 3:09remember at the time, is that September 11th is actually called Patriot Stay here
- 3:14in the United States, and my dad was a true red, white and blue American patriot.
- 3:19In fact, he changed the name of his company to May USA.
- 3:22He designed
- 3:23eyeglass
- 3:23frames, but that's probably for another story.
- 3:26It's not a food related story,
- 3:27It's beautiful though.
- 3:29Right.
- 3:29But as he was passing, and we have this particular story in our second
- 3:34show that was released when, so you can go back and listen to it,
- 3:38but he asked for clam chowder on those final moments just before he
- 3:43passed.
- 3:44So nine 11 I think of clam chowder and dad as well and good old red, white, and blue.
- 3:50Nothing more American than well, new England clam chat.
- 3:53Well maybe fried chicken, beef.
- 3:55You're from the south, right?
- 3:56Yeah, well, it's kind of a neat little partnership here.
- 3:59I'm Ronald McDonald, and you're clam chowder.
- 4:02I like that.
- 4:03Yeah,
- 4:04our memories come in all , sizes, shapes, and kinds of food, right?
- 4:07absolutely.
- 4:08But today we're reflecting, let's go back to that Patriot Day in a proclaimed
- 4:12National Day of Service and Reflection.
- 4:15Now, it's not a national holiday.
- 4:16Businesses are open, but it is a call to, more than two decades later.
- 4:21To do something that matters, , to honor those who gave their lives
- 4:25were displaced and to honor people today, our armed forces and our first
- 4:31responders, and all people in need.
- 4:33And that's why that day has become a space for healing, resilience, and connection.
- 4:39And it's often about serving and providing food.
- 4:44And, you know, Nancy, in a time that we call the age of
- 4:47Loneliness, it's really heartening.
- 4:49To see at the local level what so many communities are quietly
- 4:54gathering together and giving.
- 4:56I liken them to earthworms.
- 4:57You know, I can never stop talking about earthworms.
- 4:59You know that about me.
- 5:01I'm gonna do a show someday on earthworms.
- 5:03We bug
- 5:05You Know, we did a bug show, now we need earthworms.
- 5:07But they burrow under the ground and they create a new soil so that our food
- 5:12continues to be grown in this new soil.
- 5:15And that's what people are doing in their local homegrown groups.
- 5:20, Absolutely.
- 5:21Partially, our job here is to make sure that the good works and efforts are
- 5:24known about because family tree, food and stories isn't just about family
- 5:28because people that you care about.
- 5:30That is your family.
- 5:31for you, our listeners, we wanna make sure that you know what else is going on
- 5:35around the country and maybe even around the world as it relates to nine 11 days.
- 5:40And remembrance when it brings people together, food brings people
- 5:44together in the most profound ways.
- 5:46Now, here's a couple of examples that we have found.
- 5:50. Take for example, the organization nine 11 Day that was started by families who
- 5:55were directly affected by the attacks.
- 5:58Each year, they host services and events across the country where thousands
- 6:02of volunteers assemble meals from one another and for people in need.
- 6:07As an example, rice, beans, dried vegetables and seasonings are
- 6:12all packed in together for hunger relief., Food is given to food
- 6:16banks throughout the country.
- 6:17, What better way to help somebody with, an extra little lift . and the Philadelphia
- 6:22Eagles are doing something as well.
- 6:24They've done this for a number of years.
- 6:26They put together 2000 volunteers that come together with Feed America and they
- 6:30pack 700,000 meals for people in need.
- 6:35I think that's just a beautiful way of touching the heart and the
- 6:38soul , from the stomach to the head, to the heart to the soul.
- 6:41I guess they look at it right.
- 6:42Yeah.
- 6:43, Also just coincidentally , September is Hunger Action Month.
- 6:47It is a perfect setting for this with those, all those volunteers.
- 6:51Now, , you can do us corporate sponsorships with nine 11 day, but
- 6:55I think what we are interested in.
- 6:58A lot of those things take place in big cities like Philadelphia, but you know,
- 7:02Nancy, what's going on at the local level?
- 7:04, Our listeners live in these local places, maybe not as small as West Liberty,
- 7:08Kentucky, but they live in smaller places.
- 7:11, What can go on there?
- 7:12I was more in tune to what was happening up north when we lived there.
- 7:15Here we're still sort of getting our feet in the ground with the community,
- 7:19and I think because we were so close to New York, we saw the impact
- 7:23personally , in very different ways than.
- 7:26People further away, like in Florida, they didn't necessarily see what was
- 7:29happening unless you had family up there.
- 7:31But who knew that this was gonna happen?
- 7:33, And when it comes with bringing people together in, in the big cities,
- 7:37it's really the smaller cities, like you said, that has the ability to
- 7:41have, I think, even greater impact.
- 7:44It's not just not-for-profits, but it's local restaurants that are now offering
- 7:48discount meals to first responders, not just on Patriot's Day, but even year
- 7:52round, and offering this kind of, I don't say discount, but really just a
- 7:57gesture of kindness and appreciation.
- 8:00Is a gratitude that has continued to live on.
- 8:04But what about other individuals at ground level in other parts of the country?
- 8:08What's happening where you are, Sylvia?
- 8:10. Gosh.
- 8:10You know, this has been an awakening for me, and we're gonna get into this in a
- 8:14minute, this whole cornbread thing, but, you know, think about organized visits
- 8:17to nursing homes and bringing food.
- 8:20, When I conduct stories telling classes for,, the elderly in those
- 8:23homes,, it's always about food.
- 8:26Their recipes and all of that kind of thing.
- 8:28So it is so neat.
- 8:30, what, what we wanna talk about is what's happened in the decade since, and I
- 8:33got a couple of things to add to that.
- 8:35Including the fact that Rona Roberts here in Lexington.
- 8:38Conducted cornbread, suppers, for several years, I don't think she does them now,
- 8:42but you could come into her home on a Sunday evening, bring a dish like the
- 8:47things that go with cornbread, right?
- 8:48Beans, chili, all of those kind of comforty foods we could
- 8:52add to the list all day long.
- 8:53But they would come to her home and so, , that's brought something.
- 8:57New in my mind, , our restaurant used to serve cornbread and we stopped doing
- 9:02it because we thought, Hmm, you know, maybe it's kind of a restaurant that
- 9:05appeals to like the Keeneland crowd and that's the racetrack here in Lexington.
- 9:09And now I'm looking back on how important cornbread is and just, the
- 9:15little bit of a background on that.
- 9:17After nine 11, Ruth Reel organized her gourmet staff.
- 9:20She was the executive CEOI and a food critic and a chef.
- 9:24, Just after nine 11 in the Times Square Kitchens, they showed up in Force.
- 9:29Cornbread was a prominent , presence there along with other comfort foods
- 9:33such as chili, lasagna, brownies.
- 9:35Oh, my.
- 9:35Goodness.
- 9:36Sound good.
- 9:38They became symbolic, a simple, powerful act of love and togetherness, and I
- 9:43love this quote from Ruth, chef Ruth.
- 9:46We were hoping to snatch hope from the rubble of our broken city, and
- 9:51food was the perfect way to do it.
- 9:54Wow.
- 9:55That makes so much sense, Comfort food, particularly cornbread represents
- 9:59resilience and community and it's rooted so deeply in the story of
- 10:02America and cornbread is woven into so many American traditions from Native
- 10:07American communities to the south and to Appalachia kitchens everywhere.
- 10:12It's humble, it's.
- 10:12Adaptable, and more importantly, it's shared.
- 10:15You cannot have a piece of cornbread without being with somebody else.
- 10:19I'm convinced, and you know, even in New England, there's something about
- 10:23cornbread that I think just SOPs up the soul when you need it the most.
- 10:28Right?
- 10:28That's Right?
- 10:29But, some interesting facts.
- 10:30Native American cornbread consisted of cornmeal salt water, and was referred
- 10:34to by many settlers as P. PONE described by one Southerner as a hillbilly.
- 10:41Talk for pan.
- 10:43? Like po bread versus pan bread?
- 10:45I had a southern friend and she would say, I need a pan.
- 10:48Do you need a pen?
- 10:50Do you need a pan?
- 10:51That was Charlotte like so we laughed about that one.
- 10:53It's like pan.
- 10:54No, not a pan.
- 10:55It's a pan.
- 10:56Okay.
- 10:56We cut off the subject a little bit, but as you're writing down
- 10:59stories, you kind of need that pen.
- 11:02But we involved a cornmeal with eggs, oil, and milk, and some would
- 11:05say an essential to cornbread.
- 11:07Cookery is the iron cast skillet with bacon grease and corn
- 11:12kernels, and sometimes buttermilk.
- 11:14But the northern version tends to be a little sweeter, and I couldn't figure
- 11:17out what the difference was, but now I know is yeah, it tastes like sugary,
- 11:22more like a cake a flour and one half cornmeal.
- 11:25So the north is the yellow and the south is the white with.
- 11:29The real southern cornbread and recipes, baked, fried, a big fried stir.
- 11:34I guess you gotta stir your cornbread before you bake it, right?
- 11:37So it's personal, but it's part of the family heritage that seems
- 11:40to pass down from grandma to great grandma or great grandma to
- 11:44grandma, to mom, to hopefully us.
- 11:47And and it's just something that says home and love as far as I'm concerned.
- 11:52Yeah, that's right,.
- 11:53Like what Rona Roberts did.
- 11:55, So special, and I gotta tell you that this gave me an idea.
- 11:59Since we reopened the restaurant on Memorial Day weekend, we've had
- 12:03so many requests for the cornbread.
- 12:05Now, the bread we're serving.
- 12:07Very tasty, but it's not cornbread.
- 12:09I mean, these are people who are the trainers from the racetrack and , CEOs
- 12:14and people, and they want the cornbread.
- 12:16So here's my idea
- 12:18Let's stop a second.
- 12:19We're gonna take a break ' cause we wanna tell people a little bit more
- 12:21about what other things are going on and then we'll share your idea.
- 12:26Stay tuned.
- 12:37Okay.
- 12:37Sylvia, I broke you mid idea here.
- 12:40That's okay.
- 12:42I could talk about it all day long, so interrupt me whenever
- 12:44but you know what?
- 12:45It's, we're breaking cornbread, so why not?
- 12:49But anyway, , what we did, , we opened a Memorial Day weekend.
- 12:53People kept asking again for the cornbread and we're like, uh, you know, , we
- 12:57had gone traditional, regular bread is very good, but it was regular bread.
- 13:01And the cornbread that our chef made was so delicious.
- 13:04It had corn kernels in it and also had sour cream.
- 13:07Which adds a flavoring to, cornbread.
- 13:10Again, , and, and you add to that a ham, hock, fried potatoes, brown beans,
- 13:14, just all day long you could do that.
- 13:16But one story is especially close to my heart.
- 13:18my dad didn't cook much.
- 13:20He was a factory worker and he worked all night and, slept most of the day.
- 13:24But when he did cook.
- 13:25It was cornbread, and I remember him pulling out this
- 13:29enormous cast iron skillet.
- 13:31Now, I regret to this day that in the ensuing moves of
- 13:34my life, I didn't save that.
- 13:36I didn't really assign the value to it that it deserved.
- 13:39but it seemed huge.
- 13:40And he would melt the butter, like, I mean, I'm sure, a stick of butter.
- 13:45And he'd pour it in the batter and he'd bake it until it turned golden and crisp.
- 13:50Oh, those crisp edges.
- 13:51'cause they were just butter filled edges.
- 13:54And I would sneak and take some of the edges off.
- 13:57I'm surprised it got by with that.
- 13:59but , that was long before nine 11, but he was onto something, wasn't he?
- 14:03I should have paid more attention.
- 14:05And as, George Bernard Shaw said, youth is wasted on the young.
- 14:10I didn't get it at the time.
- 14:11. It was wonderful.
- 14:13And, and what we're gonna do is we're gonna serve cornbread
- 14:16at the restaurant on nine 11.
- 14:18Along with discounts for the wonderful people who give so much of themselves,
- 14:24the first responders in all of that.
- 14:26But we're gonna serve that cornbread, probably not quite as buttery as my dad.
- 14:30Well add a lot of sour cream though, right?
- 14:32Well, you can always add some extra butter on top.
- 14:35I don't know about you, but when I eat cornbread, I gotta have.
- 14:37A good like slab of butter on top
- 14:40of it as well.
- 14:41That's, yeah.
- 14:42It's like, you know, one slab of butter for the cornbread and
- 14:45one slab of butter for each side of the thighs, so,
- 14:47Yeah.
- 14:48Yeah, And . I actually use buttermilk in mine, and , and I guess that was my dad.
- 14:52He always used buttermilk too.
- 14:54It's just a little bit of a different flavor.
- 14:56You know, I have to say, I haven't.
- 14:58I shouldn't say haven't made cornbread, but , they come in a little Jiffy box
- 15:02and it's not quite the same because it doesn't have the granularly.
- 15:06I like the, the cornbread that has like the.
- 15:08It's grainy.
- 15:09Right?
- 15:09And when we came down here, there was some sort of local street fair or street event,
- 15:15and we met, one of the local farmers, a a fellow who's, I'm drawing a blank
- 15:19in his name on right now, but his wife had some sort of device, old fashioned
- 15:24device that was taking the carnals.
- 15:26Off the corn, you stick it in and it sort of, it had like a handle
- 15:30and it was almost like, it, well, it, it was a de kernel, I guess you
- 15:34call it first as a knife cutting it
- 15:36off.
- 15:36But they were dried corn pieces she said, this is how you get
- 15:40the best kernels for cornbread.
- 15:42And then it grinds it up.
- 15:43So that was kind of interesting.
- 15:44I learned old fashioned Florida pioneer
- 15:47Yeah.
- 15:48making kernel things.
- 15:50Yeah.
- 15:51There's so much for technical stuff, right?
- 15:53But we also talked about nine 11 was a little bit more about preserving things,
- 15:58preserving memories and soul and stuff.
- 16:01And at one point, I know we had talked a little bit about canning,
- 16:05Mm-hmm.
- 16:05Mm-hmm.
- 16:06And now, I will have to tell you, when we moved his kids , from Long
- 16:09Island to Massachusetts, my mom and dad and I, we didn't know at the
- 16:12time were in some sort of tough.
- 16:14Financial strain because of business aspects that were going on.
- 16:17It all worked out in the end, which is a good thing.
- 16:19But Mom decided that she was going to learn to, can
- 16:23Mm-hmm.
- 16:23I call it a canning?
- 16:24Because they're bottles, right.
- 16:26You know, the jar things from, , all the stuff that dad had made in the garden.
- 16:30So , my mom had a pressure cooker, but it was the kind of pressure
- 16:33cooker that if you like didn't do it right, it would explode.
- 16:36I was scared to death after that experience with mom in the kitchen.
- 16:40I would say there is no way on earth I ever want to can anything,
- 16:45but my sister does it all the time.
- 16:47She preserves this thing and that thing they actually can meat.
- 16:51Have you ever heard of that?
- 16:52I would thought they would dry meat, but yeah, I imagine.
- 16:55I just had never heard of that.
- 16:56'cause I come from a canning background.
- 16:58yeah.
- 16:58Never heard of it,
- 16:59I never heard of that either.
- 17:01So vegetables and
- 17:02all sorts of salsa that they do and soups and broth and everything
- 17:07because they have cattle.
- 17:08So , you slaughter a cattle and , there goes bubba the cow into the can.
- 17:14Yeah.
- 17:15Yeah, I'm not going to my sister's house when I know the
- 17:17name of her cattle, so, no.
- 17:19Thank you very much.
- 17:20Well, we're gonna be doing a show on, , the fall coming, the fall is
- 17:24coming right on the heels of nine 11., Then it starts up here anyway, and I,
- 17:29I'll be interested to know more about what happens in Florida in the fall.
- 17:32' cause we don't think you have seasons, but you probably know you do.
- 17:37we do, it gets cold down here.
- 17:38It'll drop
- 17:38into the thirties, so , it does get cold.
- 17:40And , the leaves kind of, well, they turn, turn.
- 17:42Colors . But, , we'll do one in the fall and I, before we, we wrap up, , talking
- 17:47about sharing and Patriots Day and everything else, we had some guests
- 17:50over this weekend, I have to laugh because I'm thinking, all right, family
- 17:54tree, food and stories, what have we done that I couldn't make for our
- 17:58guests that might surprise them now?
- 18:01We had just finished recording the bug show and releasing
- 18:04the bug show, so I thought,
- 18:06Oh,
- 18:07oh, do I serve some cockroaches, fried crushes?
- 18:10No.
- 18:10I thought that was kind of pushing it a little too much,
- 18:12Mm-hmm.
- 18:14so I decided to make an apple pie, but in this case, it was a zapp.
- 18:19And remember, , we did this show on leave a zucchini on your neighbor's porch day.
- 18:24Well, in the summertime you don't have zucchini down here in Florida
- 18:26because the growing season in the summertime is just too hot for that.
- 18:29It's really the fall and the springtime.
- 18:31They have the growing season.
- 18:32but zucchini comes in from other parts of the country.
- 18:35So I made a zappo pie.
- 18:36There's one caveat to that.
- 18:38I am terrible at reading recipe instructions,
- 18:41so.
- 18:42As I made it all together, I thought I was doing great.
- 18:44Bob said, you didn't read the instructions?
- 18:46I said, yeah, I did.
- 18:47I kind of glossed over them.
- 18:48He said, you're supposed to peel the zucchini so there's no green on it.
- 18:52You're supposed to take the seeds out.
- 18:53He read the instructions so that it looks like apples.
- 18:57Well, I left the green on, I left the seeds in and it was a green zapple pie.
- 19:02Hmm, hmm.
- 19:03It was actually very good.
- 19:04And one of the, one of our guests said, man, you have balls to serve
- 19:09this to guests at your party.
- 19:11And what did I say and what did I respond?
- 19:14That's just one of your many talents.
- 19:17Let him swing.
- 19:19But in any case, we did have some backup because Bob made homemade ice cream.
- 19:22So we had the backup and that went very well with the zapple pie.
- 19:26I'm gonna try it again on a smaller scale where it's you.
- 19:29The green has taken off and it actually looks like apples.
- 19:33But it did taste like that.
- 19:34Well, it, it had the consistency of apples.
- 19:36So
- 19:37that said, zapple pie, you can try it, but please peel the green off.
- 19:41So nobody thinks that they're eating squash pie.
- 19:44It's kind of weird looking.
- 19:45, The brain and the taste didn't kind of work together.
- 19:48So anyway,
- 19:49but they might have thought it was, uh, avocados or something.
- 19:51You know, that's the rage.
- 19:53I,
- 19:53yeah.
- 19:53Avocados are the rage, right?
- 19:55Well, avocados are the trending rage, but yeah.
- 19:58So nine 11 rituals, love and caring for people, whether it's on nine 11 or not.
- 20:05But remember, it's a time to share and show your appreciation for people
- 20:10who you care about, and even those that you don't necessarily know.
- 20:13It's a day of commemoration, a day.
- 20:15We wish peace and comfort and connection.
- 20:17For all of you.
- 20:19And remember, food is more than what it is on your plate.
- 20:21It brings us together in so many ways.
- 20:24Yeah, and come to Azure for cornbread on nine 11.
- 20:27we'll be back next week with more stories and that from Family
- 20:31Tree Food and Stories of course.
- 20:32. So before we go, food is all about sharing, right, Sylvia?
- 20:36That's right about sharing.
- 20:37. That makes it so much better.
- 20:39Right.
- 20:39It makes it taste better.
- 20:40And on that note, we'd like to ask you to share these stories and the
- 20:45show with your friends and family.
- 20:47And you know what?
- 20:48Maybe even bring him around the , dinner table to talk about it as well, because
- 20:51there's a lot of information here that you might be surprised about.
- 20:55In fact, the other day some listener reached out to me
- 20:58and said, , Yogi is his name.
- 20:59He's out in Arizona and Yogi said, you know, I learned so much from your shows.
- 21:04So thank you, Yogi.
- 21:05Shout out to you in Phoenix, Arizona.
- 21:07I appreciate you and we appreciate you, and please share it with
- 21:11friends and family because.
- 21:12Every meal has a story and every story is a feast.
- 21:16We'll see you soon and we'll hear you soon.
- 21:18Bye-bye.
- 21:18bye.