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- 1:47Speaker 1: December fourteenth, nineteen fifty Here is the Big Break.
- 1:58Speaker 2: The story you're about to here is true, only the
- 2:01Speaker 2: names have been changed to protect the Ennison. You're a
- 2:13Speaker 2: detective sergeant. You're assigned to Robbery Detailed. You've been tracking
- 2:17Speaker 2: a hold of men for months. You finally get a
- 2:20Speaker 2: line on where he's hiding. You know he's dangerous, well armed.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Your job get him power.
- 2:35Speaker 3: Dragnet the document a drama of an actual crime. For
- 2:39Speaker 3: the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles
- 2:42Speaker 3: Police Department, you will travel step by step on the
- 2:45Speaker 3: side of the law through an actual case transcribed from
- 2:47Speaker 3: official police files. From beginning to end, from crime to punishment,
- 2:52Speaker 3: Dragnet is the story of your police force in action.
- 2:58Speaker 2: It was Wednesday, March eighteenth, was cold in Los Angeles.
- 3:02Speaker 2: We're working the night Watch out of Robbery Detail. My
- 3:04Speaker 2: partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Captain ed Walker. My
- 3:07Speaker 2: name's Friday was nine forty eight pm when I got
- 3:10Speaker 2: to Room twenty seven eight Robbery Detail.
- 3:15Speaker 4: Joe, how are you ready to go?
- 3:17Speaker 5: Yeah, we've gotta hustle. Here's your top quart.
- 3:19Speaker 4: Joe, Thank you? Ben? Uh. Where's Tom?
- 3:23Speaker 5: We can pick him up down the hall and is
- 3:25Speaker 5: checking out some teargas shelves.
- 3:26Speaker 4: Might need him.
- 3:27Speaker 2: How about the address? You confirm it? Twenty one hundred
- 3:29Speaker 2: Bannon Avenue. It's a corner house, Diskiver. You know what
- 3:33Speaker 2: to expect when you get out there. Don't take any chances.
- 3:35Speaker 2: He's long in the house, all right, supposed to be. Yeah,
- 3:37Speaker 2: that won't give you much of a break.
- 3:39Speaker 4: Hone.
- 3:39Speaker 2: You mean he's heavy on guns. Two revolvers and hunting rifles. Ooh,
- 3:43Speaker 2: he's not shy about using them. Don't forget it, right,
- 3:45Speaker 2: ed slacks, Ben, let's go, Jane. It's been a long haul. Yeah,
- 3:54Speaker 2: I hope this washes it up. Hunting rifle, a couple
- 3:56Speaker 2: of revolvers. What do you think, Joe? Now are eighteen.
- 3:59Speaker 4: Robberies and three months You know the guy as well
- 4:01Speaker 4: as I do.
- 4:01Speaker 5: Well, what's your guess?
- 4:08Speaker 4: His name was Hoffman George rr.
- 4:10Speaker 2: In our files, his criminal record dated back to high
- 4:12Speaker 2: school days. Petty theft, grand theft, auto burglary, armed robbery.
- 4:17Speaker 2: His record included two terms at Preston Reformatory and one
- 4:20Speaker 2: at San Quentin. Hoffman's latest campaign was a three month
- 4:24Speaker 2: run of armed robberies. We tried everything we knew to
- 4:27Speaker 2: stop him, but it wasn't enough. We'd failed to get
- 4:29Speaker 2: a line on him until one of Captain Walker's informants
- 4:31Speaker 2: came up with a tip that Hoffman had been hiding
- 4:33Speaker 2: out for the past month and a small bungalow on
- 4:36Speaker 2: the corner of Buchanan Avenue in Selma Street.
- 4:38Speaker 4: According to the information.
- 4:40Speaker 2: The suspect had a good supply of food, ammunition and
- 4:42Speaker 2: three guns. Ten fifteen pm, together with Sergeants Tom Gaffney
- 4:47Speaker 2: and Slats Henry, Ben and I parked our car down
- 4:50Speaker 2: the street and started toward the house. Was foggy, the
- 4:54Speaker 2: street was poorly lighted, so we approached the house. We
- 4:56Speaker 2: could see a light burning in one of the rooms
- 4:58Speaker 2: at the rear of the bungalow. M the light in
- 5:04Speaker 2: the back room.
- 5:05Speaker 6: Joe just went out there, Slats, you in town when
- 5:08Speaker 6: I cover the back Let's go down.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Be careful, all right, Ben, easy, h Wait a minute,
- 5:20Speaker 2: Joe curtains in that corner room. I thought I saw
- 5:22Speaker 2: him move.
- 5:24Speaker 4: Up on Ben the front door. Come hit it, yeah,
- 5:32Speaker 4: come on, hit it again.
- 5:34Speaker 6: Come on, they gotta block or something something pile against
- 5:39Speaker 6: Come on once more?
- 5:43Speaker 5: Why's the front.
- 5:45Speaker 4: The front rooms?
- 5:45Speaker 5: There?
- 5:49Speaker 4: Yo, went out the side window. Where do you go?
- 5:56Speaker 5: Across the street? Got him pin down behind that car there,
- 6:00Speaker 5: he's in the car.
- 6:01Speaker 6: All right, let's go for the tires, all right, Hoffman,
- 6:06Speaker 6: give it up. Cover this end, slats right, Ben, that
- 6:10Speaker 6: head across the street and you see it. Yeah, okay,
- 6:13Speaker 6: let's run for it.
- 6:17Speaker 4: You okay, Joe, Yeah, hap fun.
- 6:20Speaker 5: You haven't got a chance.
- 6:21Speaker 6: Rowt your guns, okay, Ben, give it back all right,
- 6:27Speaker 6: all right, I'm coming out.
- 6:29Speaker 4: Rot your guns.
- 6:31Speaker 6: Throw him in the street, all right, Get out of
- 6:38Speaker 6: the car, hands behind your head, come.
- 6:41Speaker 5: On, all right, all right, hands mind your back now, slats.
- 6:51Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to get our car?
- 6:53Speaker 5: Right, y'all? Who told you?
- 6:54Speaker 4: Who gave you the tip?
- 6:56Speaker 5: Does it matter? I made it easy enough for you car.
- 7:00Speaker 5: It started to be three miles away. If it would
- 7:02Speaker 5: have started, better call it toe drug hunt.
- 7:03Speaker 4: Joe. Let me give it a look. Lousy luck, that's
- 7:21Speaker 4: all it is.
- 7:21Speaker 5: What was wrong with it?
- 7:22Speaker 4: Joe?
- 7:23Speaker 5: I tried it.
- 7:23Speaker 4: It wouldn't start for me. It should have turned on
- 7:25Speaker 4: the ignition.
- 7:30Speaker 2: George Hoffman was taken downtown and booked on suspicion of robbery.
- 7:34Speaker 2: At a special show up, he was identified by more
- 7:36Speaker 2: than a dozen of his robbery victims. Between his arraignments
- 7:39Speaker 2: and his preliminary hearings, we worked together with the District
- 7:41Speaker 2: Attorney's office and lining up witnesses and preparing the evidence
- 7:44Speaker 2: against the suspect.
- 7:46Speaker 4: We figured we had an airtight case.
- 7:48Speaker 2: Hoffman's trial and Superior Court was set for May fourteenth. Hi, Joe,
- 7:58Speaker 2: Hi a slash, Let's do it and still a raining Hoffman.
- 8:01Speaker 4: Yeah, this trial's coming up.
- 8:14Speaker 5: Hey, what happened to your eye? Yeah?
- 8:18Speaker 4: How about that?
- 8:19Speaker 5: I'll never live with that.
- 8:21Speaker 4: Come here, let's see.
- 8:27Speaker 2: This real black guy ever had had a bruised plenty
- 8:31Speaker 2: and they hurt you know, Yeah, how'd that happened?
- 8:34Speaker 4: Well?
- 8:34Speaker 2: Every week Gaffney and I grew up the neighborhood Boys
- 8:37Speaker 2: Club after work to help coach the kids' sports. You know,
- 8:43Speaker 2: last week we had boxing lessons. I was coaching this
- 8:46Speaker 2: one youngster. He turned out to be a lot quicker,
- 8:48Speaker 2: and I thought, you're really connected.
- 8:51Speaker 4: I guess everybody in the building has heard the story.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Huh, just about Gaffney took care of that captain called
- 8:57Speaker 2: me in this morning, asked me if I wanted to
- 8:59Speaker 2: file assault charges against the kid.
- 9:02Speaker 4: Some joke never fails. Are you still coaching the kids
- 9:05Speaker 4: up there this week?
- 9:08Speaker 2: Kids are supposed to get lessons in wrestling.
- 9:10Speaker 5: I'm not taking any chances.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been watching television for months.
- 9:16Speaker 5: I was the other room.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Yeah okay, Oh so that's hi.
- 9:20Speaker 5: I've been high home Any good. Put your coat on, Joe, Yeah,
- 9:24Speaker 5: it's a matter.
- 9:24Speaker 4: George Hoffman, Yeah, just.
- 9:26Speaker 5: Broke a jal.
- 9:31Speaker 2: The morning of his escape, Hoffman was scheduled to appear
- 9:33Speaker 2: in Superior Court for arrangement. According to routine, he was
- 9:36Speaker 2: taken from his county jail cell on the twelfth floor
- 9:38Speaker 2: of the Hall of Justice and escorted to the jail
- 9:41Speaker 2: shower room on the fourteenth floor. There, he was to
- 9:44Speaker 2: take a bath, changed to his civilian clothes for his
- 9:46Speaker 2: appearance in court. While he was in the shower room,
- 9:49Speaker 2: he turned on the hot water faucets, filling the room
- 9:51Speaker 2: with steam to hide his actions from the guard. He
- 9:54Speaker 2: succeeded in forcing his way out through one of the windows,
- 9:58Speaker 2: climbed up one story to the roof, Realizing that he
- 10:01Speaker 2: couldn't escape down through the building. He lowered himself over
- 10:04Speaker 2: the ledge of the roof, and using the narrow crevices
- 10:06Speaker 2: between the bricks to hold on, he climbed seven stories
- 10:09Speaker 2: down the outside of the building. At the eighth floor,
- 10:12Speaker 2: he found an open window and got inside. He slugged
- 10:15Speaker 2: the bailiff who tried to stop him, and then ran
- 10:17Speaker 2: down the remaining flights of stairs into the street and
- 10:19Speaker 2: disappeared in the crowd.
- 10:21Speaker 4: Twenty minutes later, he robbed A.
- 10:22Speaker 6: Denis's office at third in Los Angeles Streets and got away.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Police and sheriff's deputies covered the city for him. Ben
- 10:29Speaker 2: and I were among them. Eleven fifty five pm. We
- 10:31Speaker 2: checked back in with captain ed Walkers.
- 10:40Speaker 5: You want to cut that speaker bed h six and
- 10:43Speaker 5: spring one line. Nothing not a trace, Hiven. He must
- 10:48Speaker 5: have a good friend someplace in town. Everything's covered.
- 10:51Speaker 2: His friend's relatives is hide out everyone he knows, every
- 10:53Speaker 2: place he's ever been. We plugged every loophole, wing, think
- 10:56Speaker 2: of the depots, terminals, the airports.
- 10:58Speaker 5: Still don't trace him.
- 11:00Speaker 2: I sure is a strange no stranger than climbing down
- 11:02Speaker 2: the side of a building.
- 11:03Speaker 4: Did you check that story out?
- 11:05Speaker 3: Ed?
- 11:05Speaker 2: It's the truth Apparently Hoffman planned the thing out pretty carefully.
- 11:08Speaker 2: How do you mean The sheriff's men talked to some
- 11:10Speaker 2: of the prisoners in the jail. They said Hoffman was
- 11:12Speaker 2: practicing for it since the day we put him in there.
- 11:15Speaker 2: He'd work out five to six hours every night, building
- 11:17Speaker 2: up his hands and fingers.
- 11:18Speaker 5: How do you do that?
- 11:19Speaker 2: Used the upper bunk in his cell, hang from the
- 11:22Speaker 2: edge of it with the tips of his fingers.
- 11:23Speaker 5: He'd do it for.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Hours, pulling his body up and down. He had little
- 11:27Speaker 2: grooves in the wall, dug his fingertips into him. Prisoners
- 11:29Speaker 2: say he got so he could hold himself up like
- 11:31Speaker 2: that ten minutes of the stretch.
- 11:32Speaker 4: That's pretty amazing. How about the bail If he slugged.
- 11:35Speaker 2: He'll be all right. A couple of bad bumps on
- 11:37Speaker 2: the head. That's robbery walker. Oh yeah, little John. I
- 11:45Speaker 2: sent him out about ten minutes to go to relieve you. Yeah,
- 11:47Speaker 2: they ought to be there pretty soon, right.
- 11:50Speaker 4: How about our schedule?
- 11:51Speaker 2: Ed, far as I know, we're going all night on
- 11:53Speaker 2: this thing. Sheriff's office is the same. You two were
- 11:57Speaker 2: relieved at eleven thirty. Better check back about five thirty, am. Okay, Well,
- 12:03Speaker 2: it's a hot shot. I got it.
- 12:06Speaker 4: What is it?
- 12:09Speaker 5: Drug store hold up? I think it's Hoffman.
- 12:15Speaker 2: The scene of the holdup was the rex Lake Pharmacy
- 12:17Speaker 2: on the corner of Pico Boulevard and Pine Lake Street.
- 12:19Speaker 2: The victim of mister Clarence Geringer, told us that the
- 12:21Speaker 2: holdup man it entered through a rear door, slugged him,
- 12:24Speaker 2: and escaped on foot with his overcoat and about one
- 12:26Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars in cash.
- 12:28Speaker 4: We showed him a number of mug shots. He identified
- 12:30Speaker 4: George Hoffman as the bandit.
- 12:32Speaker 2: A special detail of men were ordered on a thorough
- 12:34Speaker 2: search of the general area around the drug store.
- 12:37Speaker 4: No sign of the suspect.
- 12:38Speaker 2: The city wide dragnet continued all that night and into
- 12:41Speaker 2: the next day, no developments. The search went on a
- 12:45Speaker 2: week passed two weeks. At ten pm, when the day
- 12:47Speaker 2: Hoffman was scheduled to be tried in Superior Court, he
- 12:50Speaker 2: beat up and robbed a forty year old liquor salesman
- 12:52Speaker 2: in the Highland Park area. Again, he made good his escape.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Routine investigation failed to turn up a single lead. June eighth,
- 12:59Speaker 2: the suspect was still at large. The legwork continued eight seventeen.
- 13:06Speaker 2: Is at the address you've got? Yeah, he said it
- 13:08Speaker 2: was near the corner. Oh yeah, yeah, there is. The
- 13:10Speaker 2: town's in the hobby shop. Yeah, what's going.
- 13:16Speaker 4: So?
- 13:16Speaker 5: Look at the electric trains. Look at that one beautiful layout.
- 13:20Speaker 6: Huh, I guess that's all the handle him here electric trains.
- 13:23Speaker 6: There must be money in it.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Look at those signals there, sweaches, they're all automatic. Wonder
- 13:27Speaker 2: if my boy is old enough for a train?
- 13:29Speaker 4: You it must be the manager over there, come up,
- 13:33Speaker 4: say excuse me, sir, just.
- 13:34Speaker 2: A moment, please be right way. You gotta check this
- 13:36Speaker 2: transforms all right?
- 13:46Speaker 5: Uh huh?
- 13:47Speaker 2: Automatic coupling on the tanker car looked out or killed
- 13:50Speaker 2: her with a mistake. Now, well let's see. Yes, he's
- 14:05Speaker 2: a dandy, isn't he. Oh I'm sorry, gentlemen. Have to
- 14:09Speaker 2: keep up our maintenance on the rolling stock.
- 14:12Speaker 4: What can I do for you? Police officers were looking
- 14:14Speaker 4: for mister Townsend.
- 14:15Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I'm Roy Townsend. You're the sgeant I talked
- 14:17Speaker 2: with on the phone.
- 14:18Speaker 4: Yes, sir, that's right. This is my partner, Sergeant Romerom.
- 14:22Speaker 4: You mentioned that you might have some information for us.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Yes, as a matter of fact, I may have about
- 14:26Speaker 2: that fellow who climbed out and escaped. No, it was
- 14:30Speaker 2: in all the papers Hoffman hoff and that's it. I'm
- 14:33Speaker 2: a pretty good one for faces. I think I might
- 14:35Speaker 2: have seen him last night.
- 14:36Speaker 5: Where was that?
- 14:37Speaker 2: On my way home from the meeting? I belonged to
- 14:39Speaker 2: a model train club. Don't get enough of it here
- 14:41Speaker 2: every day?
- 14:42Speaker 4: Yes, sir, we'd like to know about this man that
- 14:44Speaker 4: you saw.
- 14:44Speaker 2: As I say, I saw him going into the auto
- 14:46Speaker 2: court just down the street from where mother and I lived.
- 14:49Speaker 2: It was pretty late after midnight. Or where do you live,
- 14:51Speaker 2: mister Townsen although by Pasadena Royal Oaks Avenue. I know
- 14:54Speaker 2: missus Cox at the auto court. Very well, I say, well,
- 14:57Speaker 2: this man that you saw last night, you're sure it
- 14:59Speaker 2: was Hoffman? I saw his picture in the paper when
- 15:01Speaker 2: he climbed down and escaped. I don't say I'm positive
- 15:04Speaker 2: it was him, but I'm good on Facebook. Well, uh,
- 15:06Speaker 2: I wonder if you didn't mind checking through these pictures?
- 15:09Speaker 4: Not at all?
- 15:11Speaker 6: M m m hm m Yeah, this one he's the
- 15:16Speaker 6: one I saw, am I right, that's Hoffman. Do you
- 15:19Speaker 6: happen to know if he's staying there at that auto court?
- 15:21Speaker 4: Oh?
- 15:21Speaker 2: Yes, he's been there for a month, say, sergeant, if
- 15:24Speaker 2: you find out it really is this Hoffman, don't tell
- 15:26Speaker 2: Missus Cox at the auto card it had just break
- 15:28Speaker 2: her heart? Was that so she's sort of an amateur detective.
- 15:31Speaker 2: She thinks she knows face is better than I do.
- 15:38Speaker 2: After we left the train shop, we called the office
- 15:40Speaker 2: and filled them in. Captain Walker called Pasadena and notified them.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Then we drove out to the.
- 15:44Speaker 4: Auto court where the suspect was reportedly seen.
- 15:53Speaker 5: Yes, you want something?
- 15:54Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 15:54Speaker 6: Are you?
- 15:54Speaker 4: Missus Cox?
- 15:55Speaker 5: Yes, I'm the manager here. If you want lodgings, we're
- 15:57Speaker 5: filled up. You might try the Golden Eagle straight down
- 16:00Speaker 5: the street there.
- 16:01Speaker 2: Police officers, Miss Cox, do you have mister Hoffman's dying
- 16:04Speaker 2: here Hoffman?
- 16:05Speaker 5: No, I don't got a hoff buyer? Though you sure
- 16:08Speaker 5: that's not it?
- 16:08Speaker 2: No?
- 16:09Speaker 5: Woon't you look at this picture? Man recognize? Yes, but
- 16:13Speaker 5: his name's not Hoffman. It's Kine number twenty three. He's
- 16:17Speaker 5: not in though left this morning?
- 16:18Speaker 4: Was that so?
- 16:19Speaker 5: Yes, we'll be back for another hour.
- 16:30Speaker 3: You are listening to Dragnet.
- 16:39Speaker 4: Before going on steak out.
- 16:40Speaker 2: At the auto court where George Hoffman was registered, Ben
- 16:42Speaker 2: put in a call to the office.
- 16:44Speaker 4: The owner of the court.
- 16:45Speaker 2: Missus Cox gave us a pass key to Cottie's number
- 16:47Speaker 2: twenty three, where the suspect was staying. We advised her
- 16:50Speaker 2: to say nothing to Hoffman when he returned. We went
- 16:53Speaker 2: to Cottage twenty three and waited. An hour passed, Hoffman
- 16:56Speaker 2: failed to show. Another hour went by, still knows, well,
- 17:03Speaker 2: what do you think you got me? I don't know
- 17:06Speaker 2: when an hour overdual, no chance it could have been taple.
- 17:09Speaker 2: I don't see how missus Cox is the only one
- 17:11Speaker 2: who knows we're here. There's no reason for ever warning.
- 17:16Speaker 2: I don't know these things were all here, his clothes.
- 17:19Speaker 2: You know.
- 17:19Speaker 4: We've had longer waits than this. Relax.
- 17:21Speaker 5: Huh yeah, I wait a minute.
- 17:28Speaker 4: Can you see who it is?
- 17:30Speaker 5: Man coming from next door? Joe, Okay, I'll cover you
- 17:37Speaker 5: open it? Oh your new telephone directory? Oh yeah, thanks?
- 17:44Speaker 5: Anything wrong? No, there's nothing wrong things new phone book?
- 17:50Speaker 4: You know.
- 17:54Speaker 2: We waited another hour. George Hoffman still had failed to appear.
- 17:58Speaker 2: At four that afternoon, we checked with the offer.
- 18:00Speaker 4: No word. At five point thirty, we were still waiting.
- 18:03Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, Jill, Yeah, I fellow Townsend in the
- 18:05Speaker 2: training chef. I'm sure it must be a dandy hobby
- 18:08Speaker 2: electric train. It runs into money, though, didn't it. I
- 18:11Speaker 2: think I'll talk to the wife about it. Their education,
- 18:14Speaker 2: you know, my boy sure get a kick out of
- 18:16Speaker 2: having his own Train's pretty young, isn't he three years old?
- 18:19Speaker 2: I could show him how to work it, put things
- 18:21Speaker 2: together for him again. Yeah, oh yeah, I know, I'll wayne. Okay,
- 18:30Speaker 2: then what's doing Skipper? Just got a call from Pasadena. Yeah,
- 18:34Speaker 2: they picked up Hoffman ten minutes ago. The suspect, George Hoffman,
- 18:42Speaker 2: was taken back to Los Angeles and lodged in county jail.
- 18:45Speaker 4: This time there was no escape.
- 18:47Speaker 2: At his superior court trial on August sixteenth, he was
- 18:49Speaker 2: convicted on several counts of armed robbery and sentenced to
- 18:52Speaker 2: the state penitentiary.
- 18:53Speaker 5: From August to January of the following year.
- 18:55Speaker 4: The months went fast.
- 18:57Speaker 2: We washed up a string of liquor store hold ups
- 18:59Speaker 2: just before Chris got two days off. My uncle George
- 19:02Speaker 2: and Ann Allen came down from rent and Washington to
- 19:04Speaker 2: visit with my mother during the holidays. In January, Ben
- 19:08Speaker 2: was off work for a week with a bad dose
- 19:10Speaker 2: of flu. Another five months went by. Toward the end
- 19:13Speaker 2: of June, we got word that George Hoffman was no
- 19:15Speaker 2: longer at the State penitentiary after serving eleven months. The
- 19:19Speaker 2: former hold up man had been parolled into the army
- 19:21Speaker 2: with a provision that he served overseas. Another three weeks
- 19:24Speaker 2: passed July twelfth, Tuesday, Ben and I had lunch at
- 19:28Speaker 2: Cocin's cafe and check back in at the office. I
- 19:32Speaker 2: wish Cocaine would change his menu as a little oftener.
- 19:35Speaker 2: Fried beans and pastrami sandwiches. Seems to have the same thing.
- 19:38Speaker 4: Every time you sure dug into him. I got the
- 19:40Speaker 4: idea that you'll like him, oh like more.
- 19:42Speaker 5: I don't just eat too much. That's all. Three sandwiches,
- 19:44Speaker 5: two plates of beans. I wonder I never ate dinner, eh, Joe? Yeah,
- 19:54Speaker 5: you two back from lunch. You want to grab a sandwich?
- 19:56Speaker 4: Jack? Go aheads last week and covered. Okay, thanks.
- 20:00Speaker 5: There's somebody waiting in the next room for you. Want
- 20:01Speaker 5: to see you?
- 20:02Speaker 2: Okay, see later, all right. I want to see who
- 20:07Speaker 2: it is, Joe. I'll check the book. Yeah, all right, fine, Yes, sir,
- 20:14Speaker 2: my name is Friday. You want to see me?
- 20:15Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, sardon remember me. George Hoffman?
- 20:19Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Hoffman in the Army uniform there. I didn't
- 20:22Speaker 4: recognize you.
- 20:23Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought it might fool you.
- 20:25Speaker 4: I guess you heard about me.
- 20:26Speaker 5: Good break, huh, I'm glad you feel that way.
- 20:29Speaker 4: How you doing with the army? Huh?
- 20:31Speaker 5: Pretty good?
- 20:31Speaker 4: I like it, that's fine.
- 20:33Speaker 7: Just thought i'd drop up and see your fellas. Say,
- 20:35Speaker 7: you're still that partner your head.
- 20:36Speaker 4: What's his name?
- 20:37Speaker 5: Rodriguez Romero?
- 20:39Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we still work together. Yeah Romero.
- 20:42Speaker 5: I knew it was some kind of name like that.
- 20:43Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, come on in, Hoffman, Oh thanks, hey, Ben,
- 20:49Speaker 6: George Hoffman. Here he stopped in to see us.
- 20:52Speaker 5: Oh yeah, hi, a long time Laufman.
- 20:54Speaker 7: Hi, pretty good, Sartin, Thanks sir, Just thought I stop by.
- 20:58Speaker 7: You know, sure, there's no hard feelings your thing?
- 21:01Speaker 5: You got any idea when you're going overseas?
- 21:03Speaker 7: Boys in my outfit? Figured day after tomorrow. That's kind
- 21:06Speaker 7: of one reason why I dropped in and see you.
- 21:07Speaker 4: Well, how's that?
- 21:09Speaker 7: Well, I know it's pretty nervy.
- 21:11Speaker 5: But I got lots of that.
- 21:12Speaker 7: You see, a bunch of us are on leave till
- 21:15Speaker 7: tomorrow noon. Figured we go out tonight and I'm a
- 21:18Speaker 7: little short.
- 21:19Speaker 5: You know how the army pays?
- 21:21Speaker 4: Okay, how about a couple of bucks. George will not
- 21:24Speaker 4: do you any good?
- 21:27Speaker 5: Sure as swell you sorry, believe me, I'll see you
- 21:29Speaker 5: get it back. Here's a couple more Hoffman might help out. Well,
- 21:34Speaker 5: it's Slee's tell you how much I appreciate it.
- 21:36Speaker 4: I give you my word.
- 21:37Speaker 5: I won't forget it. I'm going to pay this money
- 21:39Speaker 5: back to you.
- 21:39Speaker 4: I don't forget it, George. We're glad to help you out.
- 21:41Speaker 5: Well, thanks again for the touch. Huh. Sure, and I
- 21:44Speaker 5: see you drop a card if you get a chance
- 21:47Speaker 5: to hear how you're doing over there, Sure thing, see
- 21:49Speaker 5: you later.
- 21:49Speaker 4: Huh. Right, good luck you boy. Looks like a turned
- 21:56Speaker 4: for the better anyway. Huh.
- 21:58Speaker 5: But it was my last two bucks though, going to
- 22:00Speaker 5: never failed. We had to give him something. Yeah, but
- 22:02Speaker 5: what do I do for lunch money? Tomorrow?
- 22:10Speaker 2: Two pm we drove out to the Wilshire District to
- 22:12Speaker 2: interview a robbery victim. We brought him back downtown and
- 22:15Speaker 2: took his statement. Four point thirty pm we checked back
- 22:17Speaker 2: in with Captain.
- 22:18Speaker 4: Walker Hiks Kibber.
- 22:20Speaker 2: Henry says that ex con George Hoffman was in to
- 22:23Speaker 2: day Yeah to talk to him.
- 22:24Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, Ed why have a look. Hey, MP's
- 22:28Speaker 6: laughed about twenty minutes ago as well. Here two bucks
- 22:32Speaker 6: went for nothing.
- 22:32Speaker 2: Ben Hoffman's wanted huh broke out an Army prison ten
- 22:35Speaker 2: o'clock this morning. Together with the army authorities, local officers
- 22:44Speaker 2: joined in the city wide search for George Hoffman. At
- 22:46Speaker 2: ten o'clock that night, a food market on Santa Fe
- 22:48Speaker 2: and Rialo was robbed in the proprietor beaten from our mugshots,
- 22:52Speaker 2: the victim identified Hoffman as the hold up man. Shortly
- 22:55Speaker 2: after midnight, a drugstore on Crenshaw was held up. Hoffman
- 22:58Speaker 2: was again tapped as the suspec. The next two days
- 23:01Speaker 2: the search was intensified, no leads. Two more days went by.
- 23:05Speaker 2: Late Saturday morning, we got a hurry up call from
- 23:07Speaker 2: the detail on duty at the Union station. Paffman had
- 23:10Speaker 2: been reported in the vicinity. Ben and I drove down
- 23:12Speaker 2: to the depot to check with the officer in charge.
- 23:14Speaker 2: Slats Henry. Spot him, Joe, No, let's have a look
- 23:20Speaker 2: back by the ticket catters. Huh huh, Yeah, there he
- 23:26Speaker 2: is over by the phone.
- 23:27Speaker 4: Luth come out.
- 23:31Speaker 5: High slash, Hi, looks pretty good.
- 23:33Speaker 4: What's the story.
- 23:34Speaker 2: One of the newsboys up the street gave us a
- 23:35Speaker 2: tip about an hour ago. Guy gave him a dollar
- 23:37Speaker 2: to come down here and buy a ticket for him,
- 23:39Speaker 2: ticket to Phoenix.
- 23:40Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 23:40Speaker 5: Kid came in, bought the ticket, who went back up
- 23:42Speaker 5: the street and gave it to the man. We showed
- 23:44Speaker 5: the kid a bunch of mugshots. He picked out Hoffman's man.
- 23:47Speaker 4: He's not wearing his army uniformer.
- 23:48Speaker 5: No brown suit and dark blue overcoat. No had That's
- 23:51Speaker 5: what the kid told us.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Any idea which twin he was taking for Feeni, Not exactly.
- 23:55Speaker 2: He asked when the first train for Phoenix was. Newsboy
- 23:57Speaker 2: told him three thirty five.
- 24:00Speaker 5: Minutes to twelve.
- 24:00Speaker 6: Now you got enough men to handlet's lance, everything's covered,
- 24:03Speaker 6: only one thing lacking, Yeah Hoffman.
- 24:09Speaker 5: Well.
- 24:09Speaker 2: The stakeout continued on the Union station. Ben and I,
- 24:12Speaker 2: together with Gaffney and Henry from Robbery, covered the bars,
- 24:15Speaker 2: restaurants and hotels in the immediate area for a sign
- 24:17Speaker 2: of the suspect. Two thirty pm. What do you think
- 24:23Speaker 2: we better head back down for the station. See what's doing?
- 24:26Speaker 5: Okay. I'd like to have a dime for every mile
- 24:30Speaker 5: we have logged on this case.
- 24:32Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, have a look where across the street, dark
- 24:41Speaker 2: blue overcoat, same build as Hoffman. I'll bet on him.
- 24:44Speaker 2: Come on, he spotted us. Yeah that's Hoffman. Come on,
- 24:52Speaker 2: we'll pick it up.
- 24:53Speaker 4: Yeah, I lost him, Joe.
- 24:57Speaker 5: Where'd you go?
- 24:58Speaker 4: Turn down First Street? Come on, hurry up across the street.
- 25:01Speaker 4: Bend here. What's the traffic? Where do you go?
- 25:05Speaker 5: I've seen him that antique store on the cornery, running there.
- 25:08Speaker 4: Come on.
- 25:12Speaker 1: There he is?
- 25:12Speaker 4: All right, Hoffman, out of the way, mister, fight. Hold
- 25:17Speaker 4: right there, Hoffin, I'm coming out.
- 25:19Speaker 5: What's a joke? I said, I'm coming out. You hear me.
- 25:25Speaker 6: You're doing the hard way, George, come on, dropping dropping,
- 25:55Speaker 6: all right, Huffman, all right on your face, Come on, get.
- 25:58Speaker 4: Up now, I get your hands behind you.
- 26:04Speaker 5: Sure what goods are going to do?
- 26:07Speaker 4: All right, mister, let's go.
- 26:08Speaker 5: What goods are going to do?
- 26:09Speaker 2: I already proved that I can break jail anytime.
- 26:11Speaker 4: I proved it twice. You're going right back in again?
- 26:14Speaker 4: What's that?
- 26:15Speaker 2: Prove the story you have just heard was true? Only
- 26:26Speaker 2: the names were changed to protect the innocent.
- 26:29Speaker 3: On October eighth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department
- 26:32Speaker 3: eighty nine, City and County of Los Angeles State of
- 26:34Speaker 3: California in a moment the results of that trial. George R.
- 26:46Speaker 3: Hoffman was tried and convicted on several counts of robbery
- 26:49Speaker 3: and received a life sentence as a hardened criminal. After
- 26:52Speaker 3: serving ten months of his sentence, Hoffman attempted an escape
- 26:55Speaker 3: and failed. A few weeks later, he took his own
- 26:57Speaker 3: life in his prison cell by hanging.
- 27:00Speaker 5: Adies and gentlemen.
- 27:00Speaker 2: Next week, in answer to your requests, Dragnet will repeat
- 27:04Speaker 2: A Gun for Christmas.
- 27:05Speaker 5: The actual case history broadcast last year during the ule
- 27:09Speaker 5: Tide season. That's next Thursday, December twenty First.
- 27:22Speaker 3: You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases
- 27:25Speaker 3: from official files. Technical advice for Dragnet comes from the
- 27:29Speaker 3: Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles
- 27:32Speaker 3: Police Department.
- 27:44Speaker 4: We the people as next with more good Times on NBC.
- 27:53Speaker 1: Welcome Back. This is one of my favorite Dragnet stories,
- 27:56Speaker 1: although I'll be honest that this is one where I
- 27:59Speaker 1: do prefer the tea version to the radio version, as
- 28:02Speaker 1: it's a really fun to watch visual story, particularly for
- 28:06Speaker 1: early television, and also the casting is better with both
- 28:10Speaker 1: Frank Smith as Friday's partner and also the railroad enthusiast
- 28:15Speaker 1: is better cast. I don't think the type of quirky
- 28:19Speaker 1: that they were able to get out of that actor
- 28:23Speaker 1: in the TV version is really in herb Butterfields wheelhouse. Still,
- 28:28Speaker 1: the radio version is plenty exciting and funding its own right.
- 28:32Speaker 1: One thing I hadn't noticed was the bit where Hoffmann
- 28:37Speaker 1: failed to start the car because he didn't turn the
- 28:40Speaker 1: ignition over. This little detail did a good job of
- 28:43Speaker 1: illustrating that despite all of his viciousness and cunning, he
- 28:48Speaker 1: lacks the sort of cool headedness that you really need
- 28:52Speaker 1: to have if you end up confronting the police. Now,
- 28:55Speaker 1: I will say because I love the TV version, I
- 28:58Speaker 1: did look up the im d B reviews of the
- 29:02Speaker 1: TV version of the episode and was surprised by a
- 29:04Speaker 1: few of the reviews, though I guess I probably shouldn't
- 29:08Speaker 1: have been. A couple of reviewers noted that the episode
- 29:11Speaker 1: showed law enforcement as pretty incompetent, and it showed all
- 29:15Speaker 1: the flaws in the system, and why was Dragon that
- 29:19Speaker 1: doing this as it was supposed to be about glorifying
- 29:21Speaker 1: the police. Now, I don't think they really gave a
- 29:25Speaker 1: concrete example of how our heroes failed, but they complained
- 29:29Speaker 1: about things like him escaping from jail and also the
- 29:34Speaker 1: parole into the military. Honestly, I think these reviewers like
- 29:39Speaker 1: George Hoffman missed the point. Now there is a legitimate
- 29:43Speaker 1: debate over parole processes and when we should have laws
- 29:48Speaker 1: that lock a criminal up and throw away the key.
- 29:51Speaker 1: That's a legitimate public policy debate I won't try to settle,
- 29:55Speaker 1: but I do think that some key context is being
- 29:59Speaker 1: missed in the criticism, and some of it is the
- 30:01Speaker 1: confusing nature of dragnet storytelling. Because I first watched this
- 30:07Speaker 1: as the nineteen fifty three TV episode, I had an
- 30:12Speaker 1: image in my mind that he was going overseas, kind
- 30:16Speaker 1: of like when my dad went into the military for
- 30:18Speaker 1: the first time later on in the fifties, over to
- 30:22Speaker 1: somewhere like West Germany. But in the real incident that
- 30:26Speaker 1: this was based upon, that's not likely the escape case,
- 30:31Speaker 1: because by the time that this episode aired in nineteen
- 30:35Speaker 1: fifty Hoffen had been back to prison and tried to
- 30:39Speaker 1: break out and committed suicide. And I would venture a
- 30:43Speaker 1: guest that most likely the events occurred during World War Two,
- 30:48Speaker 1: and so he was likely being parolled into a war zone,
- 30:53Speaker 1: either Western Europe or into the South Pacific. The second
- 30:58Speaker 1: thing is that while was on the police's size, it
- 31:02Speaker 1: didn't portray them as superhuman, nor did it portray others
- 31:06Speaker 1: in law enforcement as completely infallible. And there are all
- 31:11Speaker 1: kinds of evidences of police and competence. I don't know
- 31:16Speaker 1: that not planning for a guy teaching himself how to
- 31:21Speaker 1: climb down the side of a building like Spider Man
- 31:25Speaker 1: is a huge failure of competence. But the Big Break
- 31:30Speaker 1: is actually a story about a very dangerous, very cunning
- 31:35Speaker 1: criminal running up against the determine and steady of a
- 31:42Speaker 1: professional police force ready to take him the moment he
- 31:47Speaker 1: makes a mistake. And that's why at the end of
- 31:49Speaker 1: the day, Friday asked him what it proved after they
- 31:53Speaker 1: managed to recapture him every time he broke out. And ultimately,
- 31:58Speaker 1: the thing with guys like Hawfman is that they'll continue
- 32:01Speaker 1: to press their luck until it runs out. Now, you
- 32:04Speaker 1: may not agree with the message of the episode, but
- 32:07Speaker 1: that's what it's about. Well, now we turn to listener
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- 34:41Speaker 8: Where I went there to tell him to stay away
- 34:44Speaker 8: from my sister. We had a fight. The manager came
- 34:47Speaker 8: and stopped this. I told Hanson I'd kill him if
- 34:49Speaker 8: it didn't lay off. The manager heard this. Then I
- 34:53Speaker 8: went home.
- 34:54Speaker 4: What time was it about eight thirty the.
- 34:57Speaker 8: Police claimed I returned to Hanson's apartment and shot it.
- 35:01Speaker 8: I couldn't prove I was at home all night. It
- 35:04Speaker 8: was going rough for me until Patricia Park testified she
- 35:08Speaker 8: was with me at the time when the crime was
- 35:09Speaker 8: said to have been committed.
- 35:10Speaker 9: Why didn't you do the police in the first phase
- 35:13Speaker 9: that this Patricia Park was with you?
- 35:15Speaker 8: Well, that's the whole trouble. She wasn't what Her claim
- 35:19Speaker 8: that she spent the hours nine till midnight with me
- 35:21Speaker 8: was a lie. In fact, I never met the woman
- 35:24Speaker 8: in my life.
- 35:25Speaker 9: Have you contacted this Patricia since East, mister Bokok, Yes,
- 35:30Speaker 9: but she refuses to see me. Gee forho and missus
- 35:33Speaker 9: Patricia Park and tenor that you must hear it once
- 35:36Speaker 9: her own good.
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