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Chiefs 33, Colts 30 (OT): Reaction with Will & Dave Retherford (The Colts Report, 3.49) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: You are listening to a special edition of the Coltrude Port with Will and David Rutherford, their reaction to the Coltrude 3330 over time lost to the chiefs on Sunday Night Football, and it's only on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
• 0:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome Colts fans of the Central Indian Esports Report for a special edition of the Colts Report with Will and Dave Rutherford, their reaction to the Colts 33, 30 over time loss to the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday night.
• 0:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I guess I'd just go around the room at this point and get impressions will your thoughts on the loss.
• 0:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think that people's reactions on social media regarding stipends
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Late game decision making was a little over-blown.
• 0:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I...
• 0:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess put me in the huge minority I thought that he played it exactly how he should have.
• 1:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think fourth and eight with his zone will look in the red zone as a time to give yourself an automatic loss.
• 1:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: You put the ball in the play.
• 1:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: You take a kick, tie it up, feel goal three minutes left to say you don't, you know, get a three and out, get the ball back, kick a feel goal to win it.
• 1:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the home mentality of you just played a win mat, it's dumb.
• 1:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a dumb mindset.
• 1:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I understand that when you are
• 1:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: differing you're going to take the ball second you are in a situation where you say okay well if they score touchdown we know that we're in four down territory the whole time
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: They match the chiefs.
• 1:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: They kick the field goal.
• 1:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was the right decision.
• 1:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: The highs are invaluable when it comes playoff time.
• 1:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: If it's not a loss, losses are bad.
• 1:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: The highs are not bad.
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you 100%.
• 1:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I probably would have gone for it there.
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was about a 50, 50 call.
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: The chiefs, three minutes left.
• 2:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: They have timeouts.
• 2:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good chance if you can get them to go three and out, you're gonna get the ball back with plenty of time.
• 2:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not just playing for a tie there.
• 2:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's not just playing for a tie.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the whole, the rhetoric behind it just basically questioning everything about Stike and it's, it's unwarranted.
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, I just don't think it was a bad decision that you read in the long run.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't work out.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if he went forward on fourth and eight and it didn't work out.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'd all call them a dumbass there, too.
• 2:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, I guess, there, he's in a no win situation at a certain point.
• 2:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Your defense has to do his job.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: well your defense has to get a stop.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: The chief didn't do anything special over time.
• 2:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a blown cover and it was a poor tackling, poor run fill by the linebackers that resulted in Kansas City driving down the field and kicking it feelable to win it.
• 2:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't know, I just I hate when ever situations like this happens and it's just, you know, how dumb the organization is out awful.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it was a bad decision.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Dave, before we get to you, I just want to say I had no issues.
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I did I like exactly everything that Stike and did know.
• 3:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: In fact, I texted our group text last night.
• 3:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we have a really darn good head coach.
• 3:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the fact that they were in this game, considering how they played at home against the Ravens, they have historically played the chief stuff.
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I was not shocked by it.
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: But,
• 3:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought they played really well, for the most part, defensively they have it, just a ton to work on, but they often scored 30 points, and they scored 27 in regulation.
• 3:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've got to feel pretty good if you're scoring 27 against a defense that made the Broncos look.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: just amateur hour like a JV team the Monday before and in the colds come in, they played really efficiently.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought they ran the ball well with Taylor.
• 3:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were effective with Josh downs and his ability to get open.
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: What a route runner he is.
• 3:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought Jones played a good ethical quarterback.
• 3:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm obviously want the pick back, but every quarterback does.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was it a right read?
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was it a poor throw?
• 4:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 4:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, at a certain time, you've got to kind of hope your defense can turn the other quarterback over once or twice or, you know, get a fun more cover or something.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is lost as way more on the defense than it is on the offense.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hideside is always 2020 and
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh... and i still even knowing how the uh... the game ended would have done exactly what coach died can did as well i would have kicked the school there it was fourth and eight it wasn't fourth and one it wasn't fourth and three it was fourth and eight your chances of being able to
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: to capitalize there on 4th and 8 are our less than kicking the fill goal and having a chance then potentially to win a different way.
• 4:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think he did what he had to do to stay in the game at that point in time and when you stay in the game and you think it happened in the game.
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: With that said, our defense, I just don't have any confidence.
• 5:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: If anything, yesterday, I felt like we maybe weren't aggressive enough.
• 5:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: to end regulation when we had a chance to maybe when the game there, we all, we needed then was a feel goal.
• 5:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not sure that we were aggressive enough at that point to get it.
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe we could have won the game there instead of even going into over time.
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: But at some point, like I just don't have any confidence that our deep bits can make a stop.
• 5:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, coached, I can have to play the game thinking that the defense can make a stop.
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I know the fans were like, you give him three minutes.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was going to drive down and score the winning field goal.
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly what they did.
• 5:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes we've got to step up to make a play.
• 5:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the thing was just like the entire game.
• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's always a third and long that the cheese for getting the first down.
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that was the issue all night.
• 6:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the other thing it was the past defense was bad.
• 6:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's supposed to be the strength of this deeper.
• 6:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Justin Walley didn't play well.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I do think that there is you can question Stichens play call after the Laquante Redwell, which the amount of luck the Colts got on that play was unbelievable.
• 6:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think good thing we have
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's it's a win.
• 6:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: No question about it.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just if you can question, you know, him trying to run with eight in the box.
• 6:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: It really did feel like a situation where a check and do a play action play.
• 6:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You would have gotten a man look from the secondary.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that Josh downs route running.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was open all night is ability to put his foot in the ground and.
• 6:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: get open especially on outrounds just east so smooth.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would have loved to have seen maybe on second down there.
• 7:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, let's check and do a play action play here and try to see if we can take a shot at the end zone.
• 7:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Beyond that, I do agree with that.
• 7:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the colds had an opportunity to win it in regulation.
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Daniel Jones missed Tyler Warren on second down that would have been at 14 plus yard gain.
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was wide open in the flat.
• 7:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a great delay, arrow.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love that type of play call, but that's one of those situations where it's like Daniel Jones didn't make that play.
• 7:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's a God of have it type situation.
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did that play?
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did that play?
• 7:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the guy in his face, but it's one of those stories, just put it on his chest.
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm well aware that it's difficult to judge quarterbacks with the pressure that they get in their face and how quickly the game envelopes, but those are throws that a professional quarterbacks that win Patrick Mahomes.
• 7:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Patrick Mahomes makes that throw Greg 10 out of 10 times in that situation a Mahomes makes that throw and that's the difference between them winning that game and the cult's losing that game and I'm not I thought Daniel Jones played well.
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: and these quarterbacks ability to handle pressure and deliver a clean ball winning required.
• 8:19
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• 8:34
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• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Alright guys, a lot of good, a lot of bad on Sunday night.
• 8:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I really like the effort, particularly the Sunday before I thought this team might just be one of the worst in the league.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Clearly not the case.
• 8:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Really good night by the offensive line and Jonathan Taylor, a great combination that could allow them to be in any game that they play this year, because that...
• 9:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Taylor behind that line is so good, but the concern in the wide receiver room now is even bigger.
• 9:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's hard to see this team win a lot of games going forward and less they figure out something on defense and with the receiving room.
• 9:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Greg, I agree with you completely.
• 9:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully we'll get better news than what we're all expecting.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it looks like
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: is going to be a long one.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's probably going to be a long year and trying to figure out how we replace that number one receiver that we just paid booku books for to see it all just kind of go down the drain in gain number two is a hard protoswallow for sure.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I also agree that there was definitely some positives that come out of this game.
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm also the first to say that I don't necessarily believe in moral victories at the NFL level.
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bottom line is it's loss.
• 10:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're O and 2.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: We've lost two games now to teams that we could be fighting for playoffs with.
• 10:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: If things all go the way we would hope they would go and so these games matter and we're Owen too and it's nice that we, you know, we improved upon our play from last week, it doesn't get much easier this week.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: You would notice the coming into town and there they're going to be pretty hungry.
• 10:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: They haven't played particularly well either.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be interesting to see kind of how the cult scheme up things now that that Pierce is probably going to be out for a while.
• 10:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: do we look to see if there's somebody out there on the free agency wire that we could possibly bring in to help?
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure what's really out there.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know that our wide receiver depth was lacking to begin with and here we are.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, going to be interesting to see kind of what the scheme is going to look like for next week.
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought for the last two years that Tyler Warren was the number one receiver on this team.
• 11:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm struggling to see where Stichon's lack of creativity is coming from with Tyler Warren.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was so good.
• 11:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Early with Daniel Jones, the first 10 games last year, finding ways to get Tyler Warren open unconditionally, whether it was bringing him out as an offset.
• 11:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: fullback, whether it was having him line up in a pistol said is the running back, whether it was just any level of creative play call, whether he was outside, whether it was a tunnel screen, whether it was in the slot.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: As an inline tie-dend, it didn't matter.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: They found ways to get him the ball, and what I've seen these last two weeks is they're not finding ways to creatively get him the ball.
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's an unfortunate use of his talent because he's too gifted with the ball in his hands to not find a way to get him screens.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: They thought they did that with Michael Pittman though.
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: They never utilized him to the best of his ability because they wanted to be
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: more diverse in their play calling and their scheme with the x and y receiver.
• 12:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: But now with Alec Pierce going down, you've got to find a way to get Tyler Warren 10 plus touches a game in any capacity you can find it.
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Whether that's as a running back, fullback, tied into a wider receiver.
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have to do it.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Josh Towns is ready to be that number one from the slot.
• 12:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: We saw one Dale Robinson play awfully well as an undersized slot receiver for the
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Josh Jones isn't even better version of him, so there's no question that this team's upside with these two players is through the roof.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now we just have to find ways to get them the ball in space and let their playmaking show because both of them have that capability.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I liked the way that they used Taylor coming out of the backfield last night against the chiefs.
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought he was an awfully good receiver.
• 12:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not the B's genre, I was in Jamir Gibbs where you line them out in the slot and he literally becomes, you know, your number three receiver.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's just a creative way to get him the ball in space and it becomes an extension of your run game.
• 13:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: If they can continue to do that, they have a chance.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is really kind of put up or shut up.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe that there are only two teams in the last 20 years who have started O and three amid the playoffs, the Houston Texans, ironically, are both of those.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it has been since 2018.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, this is a huge week for both of these teams.
• 13:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're essentially eliminating one of these teams already in September with Hulu's, especially in the division that
• 13:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Jacksonville, even though they got beat my inverse probably still going to be pretty good.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a ton at stake if there's ever a week for Shane to bring out the bells and whistles, it's it's this next week against the Texans.
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I still expect this Texans team to be a factor in the end.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think so too, history's not really on the side of either one of these teams.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the Texans, obviously, they did it last year.
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were own three mid-deployments.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's definitely well inside of the realm of possibility.
• 14:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: But, I mean, when we're talking probability, it's pretty low.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I do, I think the cults can be on three make the playoffs absolutely not no chance.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the cold schedule gets much easier after next week after this weekend's the Texans they're still going to have to play Jacksonville twice they're still going to have to play Houston again.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're still going to have to play two divisional games against the Titans who while are not a good football team division games are tough.
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's no question about it.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, doesn't get easier.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the Cowboys are still going to be a pretty good team.
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the Bengals are still going to be a pretty good team.
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they've got some.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: easier games with the browns and most stuff like that.
• 14:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: But this is the Indianapolis culture talking about.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's not a single game on this schedule that's an easy win for this team.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to play one score games the rest of the year.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you think that they're just going to roll out and, you know, dominate a week, you're wrong, not happening.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that they would be able to compete.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: more than a three score game with the best college sheet.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's just what this cardiac cults do.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: They just keep it close and you hope that they have one more punch in their chamber when, you know, you get to the fourth quarter.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: The fact still remains that none of this even remotely is stuff to talk about if our
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: we cannot continue to put up 41 and 33 points in games and expect to win.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what our offense that, you know, honestly, we can say they haven't played their best, but men, they've scored 23 and 30.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've scored enough to win in some games.
• 15:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: If the defense doesn't improve, and I just don't see where it's going to.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have absolutely did improve from week
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they still gave up over 500 yards of total offense and both those games and that will not get it done in this league.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, absolutely.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and they did play two tough quarterbacks, but linebackers are still really struggling in past coverage, getting their depth, getting to their landmarks and zone.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was better.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have a great nickel.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just tomorrow they got torched eight receptions over 100 yards of touchdown last night.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think you can have great faith.
• 16:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: These gonna suddenly figure it out.
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I still think Moni Ward looks like a liability outside it.
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: that my sentiment remains the same as it did last week.
• 16:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just struggle with the idea of him playing his best given the situations that have transpired the last few years and his life personal life and NFL career.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I worry about his well-being on the football field.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do.
• 16:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I hope that they can somehow find a way to get fundamentally better in their coverage.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you know,
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Greg, sometimes it looks like I don't know what they're running.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they're in man if they're in zone, it just seems there's a lack of communication, but I thought was going to get fixed by them moving the green dot from camp by them to Davis Gathier, but we're going to have to see it.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have a lot of improving to do this next week, because you know Houston's going to come in with a game plan ready to beat this team.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Alright guys let's talk about it later in the week when we preview a huge huge game against the Houston Texans and we'll talk more about the film and the offense and the offensive line which we didn't get to the chance to talk about it all was just excellent last night.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: About 80% of the place I would say they won and
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tyler Warren locked in well the receipt.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just thought the blocking was really good.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jonathan Taylor was really good I'd like to see the ball in his hands more too, but you're not gonna be able to just go to Jonathan Taylor behind that line against Houston No, you're not And Greg, I agree with you completely about the offensive line.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was an oppressive performance for them Just wish our defensive line was as impressive and
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got work to do, but we've started going to, and not only to make a playoff spot as to dig yourself out of it.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, here's hope.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks so much to Will and Dave.
• 18:27
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• 18:28
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• 18:36
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• 18:42
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• 18:49
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