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Show Rewind 10-14-26 · South Carolina's Morning News

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Speaker 1: All right, and welcome into South Carolina's Morning News. We're
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Speaker 1: off to a rough start, but that means it's only
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Speaker 1: going to get better from here, Christopher. How are you
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Speaker 1: feeling today?
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Speaker 2: I'm feeling great.
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Speaker 1: Awesome.
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Speaker 2: Looking forward to a Wednesday.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Wednesday. And for a programming note, this is Christopher's
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Speaker 1: final day of the week. He's going to be on
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Speaker 1: a much-deserved relaxation couple of days off.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'll leave you something to digest. carry on in
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Speaker 3: my absence how about that well okay.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate the gifts but uh yes if i was
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Speaker 1: you after looking at how christopher you know just busts
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Speaker 1: his hump every day for gamecock coverage i think it's
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Speaker 1: almost as if you need to take a nap like
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Speaker 1: uh what is that girl's name krista pike you need
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Speaker 1: a couple of days of just deep sleep.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if i want to be in her
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Speaker 2: shoes right now.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, so we will miss Christopher on Thursday and Friday,
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Speaker 1: but back together. The team will be back on Monday
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Speaker 1: as the Gamecocks have a bye week this week. Congratulations.
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Speaker 1: We were talking yesterday about the amazing improvements in South
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Speaker 1: Carolina's education system, and the good news continues to come out.
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Speaker 1: In South Carolina, we now have the number third ranked
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Speaker 1: school in America in Hartsville. This is fantastic. This is
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Speaker 1: one of those governor schools that they put together. The
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Speaker 1: Governor's School for Science and Mathematics is named not only
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Speaker 1: the top high school in South Carolina, but the third
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Speaker 1: best public high school in the entire country.
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Speaker 2: That's fantastic.
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Speaker 1: Who would ever thought we'd be at this level now?
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Speaker 3: I mean, we used to say, thank God for Mississippi. Otherwise,
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Speaker 3: we'd be number 49 or we were usually number 49
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Speaker 3: and just thankful that there was one state below us.
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Speaker 3: And now we're rising through the ranks.
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Speaker 1: Yes, we are. And thank you to Ellen Weaver for
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Speaker 1: all the work she's been doing. And thank you to
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Speaker 1: all the teachers. Christopher, you did a great job acknowledging
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Speaker 1: the fact that the teachers have been stepping up. I
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Speaker 1: think that the superintendents have been stepping up. Everybody's got
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Speaker 1: to step up because these are hard decisions that kind
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Speaker 1: of go against what has been the traditional thought patterns,
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Speaker 1: we'll just say, in the education departments around the country. And,
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Speaker 1: you know, we put out a policy that basically said
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Speaker 1: if you can't read at third grade level in South Carolina,
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Speaker 1: you will not be going to fourth grade. And that
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Speaker 1: is for the good of the student. And there's been
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Speaker 1: a lot of pushback on that policy change that was
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Speaker 1: implemented a few years ago. But now we're starting to
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Speaker 1: reap the benefits of that. I also wonder, Christopher, I
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Speaker 1: haven't seen around the country. I know in South Carolina, though,
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Speaker 1: that we have a policy where the kids can't bring
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Speaker 1: cell phones into the classroom.
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Speaker 3: I think it depends on the district, but I think
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Speaker 3: they did pass an overall statewide ban. I think the
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Speaker 3: districts have the They kind of have a little bit
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Speaker 3: of leeway in how they implement that, but that's a
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Speaker 3: huge distraction. I mean, imagine being a kid at a
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Speaker 3: high school age, for example, and you've got the hormones
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Speaker 3: raging and everything else going on in your world. It's
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Speaker 3: tough to maintain focus, and it would be that much
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Speaker 3: tougher if you've got your phone right next to you,
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Speaker 3: if you can just surf on the web, if you
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Speaker 3: get bored with what the teacher's saying.
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Speaker 1: If I got bored, I'm remembering, you know, take me
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Speaker 1: back to my high school years. I used to, I
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Speaker 1: think about this sometimes, but I would daydream in class
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Speaker 1: about just ridiculously stupid things.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
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Speaker 1: Like one of the things that I would have on
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Speaker 1: the regular in the mid eighties was, I wonder what
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Speaker 1: David Lee Roth is doing right now, but he's not
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Speaker 1: suffering through algebra.
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Speaker 3: I would, I would sit there and just sketch my
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Speaker 3: favorite quarterback. Usually whoever played on Monday night or Sunday or,
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Speaker 3: you know, I, I'd be sketching that person out.
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Speaker 1: Look at John Elway. Look at whoever.
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Speaker 2: Hoping I wouldn't get busted by the teacher.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. Just ridiculous. But, yeah, if we had computers,
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Speaker 1: you'd be Googling the stats and all that sort of stuff. But, yeah,
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Speaker 1: so I think we've done some fantastic work here in
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Speaker 1: South Carolina laying the foundation for a much improved education system.
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Speaker 1: And that benefits our state in a number of ways. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: first and foremost, the kids in South Carolina– are getting
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Speaker 1: a better education so they'll be better prepared for the future. Awesome.
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Speaker 1: On top of it, companies that are looking at this state,
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Speaker 1: one of the complaints had been your lagging education system.
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Speaker 1: We're taking that objection away so we can attract better
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Speaker 1: jobs to South Carolina. So, I mean, even if you're
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Speaker 1: like 50 years old and you're like, I don't have
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Speaker 1: any kids in the school system, you're still getting an
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Speaker 1: improvement because you're going to have better job opportunities over
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Speaker 1: the next 5, 10, 15, 20 years. I'm just very
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Speaker 1: excited for South Carolina right now. I hope everybody is
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Speaker 1: as well. If you've got thoughts on our education system. Oh,
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Speaker 1: by the way, coming up a little bit later on today,
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Speaker 1: we're going to have our conversation with Darlene Graham.
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Speaker 2: Ah, you spoke to her.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday afternoon we spoke, put it up as a podcast.
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Speaker 1: If you want to hear the entire thing, that's on
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Speaker 1: the National Briefing podcast on the iHeartRadio app. But we'll
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Speaker 1: be playing segments of it coming up here in just
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Speaker 1: a little bit. But love to hear your thoughts on
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Speaker 1: the Senate race. Love to hear your thoughts on South
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Speaker 1: Carolina education. Any of the topics that you think we
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Speaker 1: need to be talking about this morning, use the Talkback
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Speaker 1: feature for that as well. We're underway at 6.08.
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Speaker 4: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
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Speaker 1: And it's Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson at 6.13, looking
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Speaker 1: at the international scene, the Houthis. Part of the Triple
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Speaker 1: H gang, as I call them. The Houthis. They're out
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Speaker 1: of Yemen. And they launched deadly attacks against Saudi Arabia
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. And they continue to just... Saudi Arabia, I
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Speaker 1: don't know what's wrong with them. Do they not have
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Speaker 1: any military? They got a lot of money. They have
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Speaker 1: no way to defend themselves at all.
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Speaker 2: They've shot a lot of missiles out of the sky.
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Speaker 1: I mean, apparently... you know, not enough to not, you know,
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Speaker 1: lead to the death of dozens of people at an airport,
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Speaker 1: including an American. And so now the president is stepping
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Speaker 1: up and I'm wondering how you all feel about this
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Speaker 1: because now a U S citizen has been killed. Do
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Speaker 1: you want American power going against the Houthis? Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: right now says he's looking at Turkey and going to
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Speaker 1: ask Turkey to step up and do it. Um, NATO's
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Speaker 1: second biggest army. Turkey's quite the partner to bring along,
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Speaker 1: says Donald Trump. But, you know, sometimes I feel like.
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Speaker 1: Maybe we did this demands a response from the U.S. military.
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Speaker 1: You just killed an American and there is a certain
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Speaker 1: price that needs to be paid. We are untouchable. That's
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Speaker 1: the message that needs to be sent. If you mess
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Speaker 1: with an American, your whole world gets destroyed. I remember
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Speaker 1: that speech from, was it Dan Cain who gave the speech,
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Speaker 1: who was like, you have a choice, and if you
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Speaker 1: choose violence, we will destroy you. We will kill every
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Speaker 1: one of your members. Every member will die a bloody death,
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Speaker 1: and then the Americans will go home happy.
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Speaker 3: Well, Kelly, as you've pointed out, the Houthis are sponsored
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Speaker 3: by Iran, so essentially we're already in a conflict with them.
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Speaker 1: Well, exactly, but we have not attacked the Houthis. True.
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Speaker 1: We have just let them just flail around out there.
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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people like the idea of, hey,
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Speaker 1: outsource it. I mean, and I've been kind of a
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Speaker 1: proponent of that when it comes to Iran. Outsource it.
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Speaker 1: Arm the Iranians. Let the Iranians fight for their freedom.
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Speaker 1: If they want to overthrow their government, if they want
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Speaker 1: to overthrow the IRGC, let them do it. We'll give
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Speaker 1: you the guns to do it, but you got to
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Speaker 1: do it. Or let Israel do it. But when you
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Speaker 1: start killing Americans, whether you intended to or not, and
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Speaker 1: by the way, they are all over social media. Oh,
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Speaker 1: the great Satan can't stand up to us at all.
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Speaker 1: They are mocking us. They have parades going in the streets.
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Speaker 1: They are celebrating. The one American, the fact that they
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Speaker 1: killed dozens of others, great. But the American is who
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Speaker 1: they're celebrating. I think that deserves massive bombing.
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Speaker 3: I wonder if that's Iran's ultimate goal is to draw
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Speaker 3: Trump into another– choke point in this war? Maybe.
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Speaker 1: Maybe so. It's one of those things where I'm very
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Speaker 1: passionate about defending Americans. And I'm happy that we have a,
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Speaker 1: I'll say ally. I know that that's a controversial statement
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Speaker 1: when you're talking about Turkey. But You know, Trump feels
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Speaker 1: comfortable with the Turkish leadership in the military, and they
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Speaker 1: do have the second largest NATO military. So, yes, I
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Speaker 1: guess they're more than competent to go after it. But
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Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, to break it down, it's like
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Speaker 1: if you smacked my wife and I sent Christopher to
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Speaker 1: take care of you.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure you'd accomplish much there.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? That's our business now. Now
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Speaker 1: you've made it our business. And I'm... Whatever happens, it
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Speaker 1: has to happen quickly. When you start killing Americans, it's
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Speaker 1: like when a wild animal kills a human being, I
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Speaker 1: think it needs to be put down. I know that
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Speaker 1: everybody's talking about that tiger thing. And that guy was
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Speaker 1: a moron for jumping into the lions. I'm not talking
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Speaker 1: about that. I'm talking about whenever you hear about a
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Speaker 1: wild animal somewhere, anywhere, attacking a human being like an alligator,
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Speaker 1: you've got to put that down. They have to have
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Speaker 1: a fear of human beings. And the world needs to
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Speaker 1: have a fear of the United States, a deep respect
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Speaker 1: and reverence for a U.S. citizen. It's like in the
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Speaker 1: Bible when, you know, oh, wait, oh, we just found
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Speaker 1: out he's a Roman citizen. Oh, everything changed once they
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Speaker 1: found out he was a Roman citizen. Once you find
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Speaker 1: out it's a U.S. citizen, it needs to be a
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Speaker 1: whole different level. Our ancestors fought way too hard to
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Speaker 1: just let this sort of thing slide. They put us
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Speaker 1: up on a pedestal, and we need to stay on
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Speaker 1: that pedestal. What do you think about that? Let us
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Speaker 1: know on the Talkback feature. It is now 618.
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Speaker 1: 6-23 with Kelly Nash and Christopher Thompson. Last night, Mount
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Speaker 1: Pleasant got together. The town leaders voted to have the
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Speaker 1: moratorium that they were discussing. And Christopher, originally, I was
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Speaker 1: against it at 120 days. But they decided to not
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Speaker 1: only approve it, obviously not fans of me, and extend it.
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Speaker 1: So now it's a two-year moratorium.
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Speaker 5: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Two years. So just come on out and say we're
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Speaker 1: not going to have them. I mean, just say that.
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Speaker 1: We're not going to have data centers. And look, I
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Speaker 1: understand that that is a very ritzy part of South Carolina.
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Speaker 1: I'd say Mount Pleasant. Every time I go down there,
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Speaker 1: it's very impressive. It's also very full. It's very full.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they would have had room for
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Speaker 1: a data center. But look, if you are.
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Speaker 1: Thinking that this is only going to crappy parts of
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Speaker 1: cities and states, I'll point out Donald Trump, West Palm Beach,
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Speaker 1: Palm Beach County currently has three data centers. The Cloud
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Speaker 1: South at 424 Hampton Road in West Palm Beach, the
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Speaker 1: Lumen West Palm Beach data center at 410 Hampton Road
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Speaker 1: and the South Beach network located at 4105 Miller Avenue.
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Speaker 1: That's all surrounding Mar-a-Lago. Now, there's been another one that's
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Speaker 1: been halted. This is called Project Tango. But they've already
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Speaker 1: got three. The people of West Palm Beach, who are
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Speaker 1: the upper one percentile, in order to be in that area,
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Speaker 1: you've got to be worth probably, I would say, $ 5
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Speaker 1: million or more. Those people voted to have those things
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Speaker 1: in there. Now, they're pausing it for a time being.
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Speaker 1: While they check out this other Project Tango, how big
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Speaker 1: is it going to be? What is the impact on
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Speaker 1: the community?
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Speaker 3: Kelly, I feel like Project Tango, I feel like that
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Speaker 3: nickname's used for every one of these projects. Haven't we
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Speaker 3: heard that before, Project Tango?
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Speaker 1: Was it a military operation at one time? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Maybe a movie from the 80s?
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Speaker 3: But if you're Mount Pleasant, you put a two-year pause
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Speaker 3: on this. Imagine the advances that can be made in
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Speaker 3: two years. Even if you have problems with data centers
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Speaker 3: as they exist now, imagine what they're going to look
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Speaker 3: like in two years, and you're not going to have
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Speaker 3: a chance at those.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was my point. It should be a case-by-case.
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Speaker 1: You present to us the information. Every data center is different.
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Speaker 1: As we've seen, Georgia got some crappy ones. So did Tennessee.
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Speaker 1: Not all of them are crappy in Georgia and Tennessee,
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Speaker 1: but there are some that are massive problems. And I'm
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Speaker 1: sure that the people in those communities are very upset
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Speaker 1: about it. And they hopefully are voting out their leaders
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Speaker 1: as we speak in the midterms. But when you're looking
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Speaker 1: at a project, this is– promise us this. And if
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Speaker 1: you don't deliver this, then we will shut you down. Again,
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Speaker 1: to your point, I think they're missing out on some opportunities.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: If it was on the table. Again, Mount Pleasant, very
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Speaker 1: filled up as it is. I don't know where you
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Speaker 1: were going to build one to begin with, but they
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Speaker 1: went from 120 days to two years. Again, just say
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Speaker 1: we're not doing it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pretty confident they don't want one.
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Speaker 1: Well, how do you feel about that in the low country?
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Speaker 1: Let us know on the Talk Back feature. Darlene Graham
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Speaker 1: spoke to her yesterday. We'll have some of that coming
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Speaker 1: up next. It's South Carolina's morning news.
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Speaker 4: From the Midlands to the low country, this is South
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Speaker 4: Carolina's morning news.
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Speaker 1: Well, we've been asking for it. And yesterday we got
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Speaker 1: a phone call from Darlene Graham. And, you know, the
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Speaker 1: entire interview is up on the National Briefing Podcast, if
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Speaker 1: you want to hear all 16 minutes of it. We're
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Speaker 1: going to play you some excerpts of it. One of
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Speaker 1: the things that people have noticed, Darlene has no political experience. Now,
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Speaker 1: she has been a civil servant for more than 30
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Speaker 1: years and most recently leading the Commission on the Blind.
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Speaker 1: Is that enough to be the next senator?
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Speaker 7: You know, I do think that that's transferable skill sets.
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Speaker 7: It's still serving the people of South Carolina just in
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Speaker 7: a different capacity. I work for state government. It's going
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Speaker 7: to be at a federal level now. You know, it's
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Speaker 7: the same thing. It's caring about the people of South Carolina.
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Speaker 7: It's loving this state. It's wanting to work hard for
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Speaker 7: the people. You know, I've had strategic planning skills, leadership skills,
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Speaker 7: problem-solving skills. I have the ability to build relationships. I
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Speaker 7: think that's one of the most important skill sets. When
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Speaker 7: you go to the Senate, you know, you can't get
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Speaker 7: anything done by yourself. You have to form relationships with
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Speaker 7: your Senate colleagues to get stuff done. Sometimes that means
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Speaker 7: reaching across the aisle even to get things done. You know,
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Speaker 7: one thing I'll never do is compromise my conservative values,
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Speaker 7: but it takes other people to come together to get
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Speaker 7: things accomplished.
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Speaker 1: Talking with Darlene Graham, and you're absolutely right about building coalitions,
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Speaker 1: and that's difficult to do sometimes, especially if you've got
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Speaker 1: to work across the aisle. Recently, we had Annie Andrews
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Speaker 1: on the show, and she said, I was only the
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Speaker 1: second person ever to ask her this question. I was
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Speaker 1: upset that I wasn't the first, but maybe I'll be
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Speaker 1: the first one to ask you. Do you have a
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Speaker 1: favorite Supreme Court justice, or do you have a least
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Speaker 1: favorite Supreme Court justice? And if so, why?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm kind of tied between two, Brett Kavanaugh and
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Speaker 7: Clarence Thomas. And the reason being, obviously, I think they're
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Speaker 7: both good judges, conservative, but They went through hell to
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Speaker 7: get on there, to get confirmed. So I just appreciate
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Speaker 7: everything they had to go through, and they stuck in
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Speaker 7: there with it. And I think they're doing a fine
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Speaker 7: job serving.
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Speaker 1: So those are the kinds of judges that you would
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Speaker 1: look for more in the line of a Brett Kavanaugh
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Speaker 1: or a Clarence Thomas? Because, again, that would be a
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Speaker 1: big part of your job, confirming that. I'm assuming we're
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Speaker 1: going to have multiple judges. Supreme Court justice changes if
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Speaker 1: you are elected for six years.
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Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely. And, you know, that's one of my concerns
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Speaker 7: about Amy Andrews is, you know, it's my understanding. She
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Speaker 7: said that she wants to go from nine to 13
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Speaker 7: to and we know why the packet with liberals instead
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Speaker 7: of conservatives.
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Speaker 8: Yes.
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Speaker 1: She used the phrase she wanted us to pack the
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Speaker 1: court to unpack the court. That was the phrase she
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Speaker 1: used on our show. So when you think about South Carolina, obviously,
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Speaker 1: we think a lot about military bases here. And your
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Speaker 1: brother was honored with the naming down in Charleston and
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Speaker 1: rightfully so. There has been talk where there should be
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Speaker 1: cuts to the military in some capacity. What do you
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Speaker 1: think about that? Do you think that there's enough, we'll say,
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Speaker 1: extra spending inside the military, or do you think that
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Speaker 1: it would actually affect South Carolinians if we were to
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Speaker 1: cut a military budget?
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Speaker 7: I want to keep South Carolina safe. I want to
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Speaker 7: keep this country safe. Those are some of my primary concerns.
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Speaker 7: We have seven military bases here in South Carolina to
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Speaker 7: help defend our country, and they're very important to South
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Speaker 7: Carolina's economy. So I want to fully support and fund
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Speaker 7: the military. This time, the Senate Democrats this year, they
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Speaker 7: filibustered the National Defense Authorization Act, the first time that's
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Speaker 7: been done in years. So that tells you right there
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Speaker 7: that Amy Andrews is going to join them. She's not
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Speaker 7: going to fund and support our military. It's so important
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Speaker 7: to defend our state and our country. I believe in
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Speaker 7: peace through strength. The stronger our military, the stronger our
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Speaker 7: defense is. The safer we are as a country, the
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Speaker 7: less likely our enemies are to attack us.
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Speaker 1: All right. That's the first clip from our Darlene Graham discussion.
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Speaker 1: When we come back, Christopher Thompson and I respond to that. And,
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Speaker 1: of course, if you've got responses, we'd love to hear
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Speaker 1: what you're thinking about our chat so far with Darlene Graham.
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Speaker 1: Or perhaps you've downloaded the entire podcast and heard it already.
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Speaker 1: In all 16 minutes or so of its glory on
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Speaker 1: the National Briefing Podcast, it is now 637.
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Speaker 4: This is South Carolina's Morning News on 103.5 FM and
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Speaker 1: If you're just getting your day started, thanks for starting
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Speaker 1: it with us. I'm Kelly Nash, Christopher Thompson. We had
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Speaker 1: Darlene Graham, our first segment with her just now. And again,
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Speaker 1: the entire interview up on the National Briefing podcast on
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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. Christopher, any initial thoughts after her first
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Speaker 1: couple of questions?
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Speaker 3: I'm not even going to get into the substance yet.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to say this. If that's Darlene Graham, put
19:03
Speaker 3: her out on the campaign trail. I don't know if
19:05
Speaker 3: she's just reading notes. I don't know if somebody's feeding
19:08
Speaker 3: her answers, but that was a very polished Darlene Graham.
19:12
Speaker 3: I was, I was, maybe the bar's been set low,
19:16
Speaker 3: but I was impressed by her answers.
19:18
Speaker 1: Nice.
19:18
Speaker 5: Nice.
19:19
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised on her Supreme court, uh,
19:22
Speaker 1: justice answer. Obviously I expected a Clarence Thomas, uh, type
19:26
Speaker 1: of answer. I would have also, if she didn't just
19:30
Speaker 1: pick one, I would have also thought maybe Alito.
19:34
Speaker 3: Um, Well, I think maybe because her brother fought so
19:37
Speaker 3: hard for Brett Kavanaugh that she felt obligated to say
19:40
Speaker 3: his name, too.
19:42
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Kavanaugh decisions, and Kavanaugh has been
19:46
Speaker 1: about as center as Roberts has been. And when I
19:50
Speaker 1: say center, I mean, he's conservative. How do I say it?
19:56
Speaker 1: It's not as if he's a reliable conservative vote. He
19:59
Speaker 1: has been somebody who will, on certain issues— go with
20:05
Speaker 1: the liberals. And sometimes I think has gotten it wrong. Again,
20:11
Speaker 1: he's ultimately the Supreme court justice. I love Clarence Thomas.
20:15
Speaker 5: Sure.
20:15
Speaker 1: I think that he's, if anybody ever asked me, Clarence
20:18
Speaker 1: Thomas is going to be my answer until he retires.
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Speaker 1: Alito would be right up there as well. I was
20:24
Speaker 1: looking at some Supreme court rankings by the SCOTUS blog
20:28
Speaker 1: and Alito is actually a little bit more conservative than,
20:32
Speaker 1: Then Clarence Thomas, when it comes to the actual decisions,
20:36
Speaker 1: although Clarence Thomas and Alito vote together, 97.8% of the
20:40
Speaker 1: time Gorsuch comes in next, then Kavanaugh and Roberts who
20:44
Speaker 1: are almost tied. And then obviously get into the liberal
20:47
Speaker 1: wing at the party. But, you know, how about the
20:51
Speaker 1: 30 years of being a civil servant at the state
20:56
Speaker 1: level that, that can translate into working as a Senator?
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Speaker 3: Well, I thought she had a pretty good explanation for that,
21:03
Speaker 3: talking about the fact that she's been able to bring
21:05
Speaker 3: people together. That's what you have to do with the
21:07
Speaker 3: Senate in order to get a vote or a resolution passed.
21:10
Speaker 3: You've got to be able to put together a coalition
21:12
Speaker 3: and figure things out. And she says she's done that
21:16
Speaker 3: at the state level successfully, and she's ready to move
21:19
Speaker 3: on to the federal level.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, building coalitions is very difficult. There's a lot of
21:25
Speaker 1: different– interests when you're talking to senators. And so Lindsey
21:31
Speaker 1: was great at it, by the way. He was probably
21:33
Speaker 1: one of the best. So big shoes to fill. But yeah,
21:36
Speaker 1: we'll have more. I think we'll do the second part
21:39
Speaker 1: of the interview just after the top of the hour
21:42
Speaker 1: if you want to hear more with Darlene Graham. Were you, Kelly,
21:45
Speaker 1: were you pleasantly surprised? You know, I wouldn't say I
21:48
Speaker 1: was surprised. I would say she is a very nice person.
21:53
Speaker 1: And that doesn't surprise me. She remembered our brief, brief
22:00
Speaker 1: conversation that we had at the Alan Wilson event at
22:05
Speaker 1: River Bluff High School a couple of months ago. And,
22:09
Speaker 1: you know, she brought that up. And then we, you know,
22:11
Speaker 1: the parts that were not playing on the air are
22:13
Speaker 1: some of the stuff where she... I was reminiscing about
22:16
Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham, who used to be a somewhat regular visitor
22:19
Speaker 1: to the Jonathan and Kelly show when we did the
22:21
Speaker 1: afternoons here for years. And the thing about Lindsey Graham
22:26
Speaker 1: that blew me away was he would take a position,
22:29
Speaker 1: and I would see it promoted on Fox or whatever,
22:32
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, that's insane. What is he talking about?
22:35
Speaker 1: And then he would come on to the show, and
22:37
Speaker 1: I'd say, what are you talking about? And he would— if
22:40
Speaker 1: you give him like— 90 seconds or more, he had
22:43
Speaker 1: the ability to start swinging me towards him. I was like,
22:46
Speaker 1: wait a minute, now that you think about that, well, okay.
22:49
Speaker 1: He was, man, he was good at that sort of stuff.
22:52
Speaker 1: But he also was able to see what was important
22:56
Speaker 1: and what was not important. And again, not a perfect senator.
22:59
Speaker 1: Nobody is. And certainly disagreed with him, even after hearing
23:03
Speaker 1: his explanations on numerous different things. But he was a
23:06
Speaker 1: great asset, not only to South Carolina, but to the
23:08
Speaker 1: entire country. And he is greatly missed. But nobody's going
23:11
Speaker 1: to miss him more than his sister. So we talked
23:13
Speaker 1: a little bit about that. And then we got into
23:15
Speaker 1: some policy. Now, Christopher, you brought up a point yesterday
23:19
Speaker 1: about Darlene Graham. And I brought it up to her,
23:21
Speaker 1: you know, this idea about sanctions or not sanctioning Russia.
23:26
Speaker 1: And how does she feel about that? We'll get into
23:27
Speaker 1: that just after 7 o'clock. But if you've got thoughts
23:30
Speaker 1: on Darlene Graham or Annie Andrews or Casey Whitener or
23:34
Speaker 1: anybody else that's running for office, I'd love to hear
23:36
Speaker 1: what you're thinking this morning on the Talk Back feature
23:38
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. It is 647.
23:40
Speaker 8: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
23:48
Speaker 1: All right, it started yesterday. Did you feel it as
23:51
Speaker 1: we entered the new era, the Zecca era? katie zecca
23:56
Speaker 1: era the new spokesperson zecca era it's the zecca era
24:02
Speaker 1: um she kind of came out dropping bombs the white
24:07
Speaker 1: house asking for the resignation of kimberly guilfoyle just just
24:10
Speaker 1: threw it out there i was like my gosh lady
24:13
Speaker 1: on your first day um so yeah that kind of
24:16
Speaker 1: threw a a kink into everything and uh A little
24:20
Speaker 1: later on in the morning, Kimberly Guilfoyle did it. Well,
24:23
Speaker 1: if you read the tweet, she doesn't actually resign in
24:27
Speaker 1: the tweet, but she does say that my time is
24:31
Speaker 1: coming to an end. I guess later on, she submitted
24:34
Speaker 1: her resignation. Donald Trump asked about it, said, quote, she
24:38
Speaker 1: went to Greece. She was doing a good job, but
24:40
Speaker 1: we didn't like what we were reading. I haven't spoken
24:44
Speaker 1: to her, but she's not going to be there.
24:45
Speaker 2: There you go.
24:48
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I don't think that this is a
24:50
Speaker 1: big international problem for the United States. Usually if you're
24:54
Speaker 1: the ambassador, I know she, in her thing, she talked
24:56
Speaker 1: about all the energy and stuff that they were creating
24:59
Speaker 1: with Greece. And I don't imagine that Kimberly Guilfoyle was
25:02
Speaker 1: directly responsible for those types of things, that there was
25:05
Speaker 1: actual real negotiators doing that work. It's kind of an
25:09
Speaker 1: honorary position to be an ambassador to Greece.
25:12
Speaker 4: Exactly.
25:13
Speaker 2: And she won't really be missed.
25:15
Speaker 1: No, she's not going to be missed. I think that
25:17
Speaker 1: she's been, I think that, It served its purpose, which
25:20
Speaker 1: was to get her away from Donald Trump Jr. We'll
25:24
Speaker 1: just send her to Greece. All right. Back more with
25:26
Speaker 1: Darlene Graham right after the top of the hour news.
25:29
Speaker 4: This is South Carolina's morning news.
25:33
Speaker 1: Good morning. It is 703. Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson.
25:37
Speaker 1: And part of our interview from yesterday with Darlene Graham,
25:41
Speaker 1: who called in as we were talking, the headline popped
25:45
Speaker 1: up on the Hill. Trump picks fight. with GOP senators
25:50
Speaker 1: over Russia diesel deal. And obviously, Darlene Graham had been
25:54
Speaker 1: fighting very hard for the Sanctions Act against Russia.
25:59
Speaker 2: It's named after her brother.
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Speaker 1: And she's going to point that out right here as
26:02
Speaker 1: I ask her about, is this something that you're going
26:05
Speaker 1: to be talking to the president about?
26:06
Speaker 7: Like you said, I was so proud. That meant so
26:09
Speaker 7: much to Lindsay. So one of the first things I
26:11
Speaker 7: did when I got there was work really hard with
26:14
Speaker 7: my Senate colleagues to get the sanctioned Russian, let me
26:18
Speaker 7: back up, the Lindsey O'Graham, it was named after him,
26:21
Speaker 7: the Lindsey O'Graham Sanctioned Russian Iran Act of 2026 through
26:26
Speaker 7: the Senate, then, of course, through the House and signed
26:29
Speaker 7: into law by the president. And it had great bipartisan support,
26:33
Speaker 7: 86 to 11. So I was so proud of that.
26:36
Speaker 7: And the way I look at it, it's a tool.
26:39
Speaker 7: It's a tool that the president can use to enforce
26:42
Speaker 7: economic sanctions, to help end the war sooner, peacefully. You know,
26:48
Speaker 7: I personally don't like Russia, certainly don't like Putin. So,
26:54
Speaker 7: you know, I'm totally against Putin's But, you know, it's
26:59
Speaker 7: ultimately up to the president. I'm not sure why he
27:01
Speaker 7: chose that route. I would assume it was to get
27:04
Speaker 7: the gas prices down sooner, which I can appreciate that.
27:08
Speaker 7: But again, you know, I worked really hard on that
27:11
Speaker 7: bill and I'm very proud of it.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that'll be a discussion that you have with the president.
27:15
Speaker 1: Perhaps we can go back to sanctioning Putin here and
27:17
Speaker 1: try to punish him a little bit more. I know
27:19
Speaker 1: your brother was very strong against Putin. And we have
27:23
Speaker 1: a lot of South Carolinians that are with you on
27:26
Speaker 1: that one. That would be like Joe Wilson and others
27:28
Speaker 1: that are in the congressional delegation. But you do mention
27:31
Speaker 1: high costs. And, you know, all the polling shows that
27:35
Speaker 1: not just around America, but here in South Carolina, there's
27:38
Speaker 1: a lot of residents that feel as if this economy
27:41
Speaker 1: is not necessarily working for them. Although the Trump tax
27:46
Speaker 1: cuts have been fantastic. Is there other things that you
27:49
Speaker 1: think that the Senate could do to help this administration
27:53
Speaker 1: lower costs for South Carolinians?
27:55
Speaker 7: Yeah, obviously, you know, under President Trump, they've done a
27:58
Speaker 7: great job cutting fraud, waste and abuse. I think there's
28:02
Speaker 7: more that can be done there. But, you know, everything
28:06
Speaker 7: is tied to gas prices, right? That controls the economy,
28:09
Speaker 7: pretty much the price of food and all of that.
28:11
Speaker 7: And I know that gas prices are high right now.
28:14
Speaker 7: I feel it at the pump, too. I know what
28:16
Speaker 7: it's like to Work paycheck to paycheck and the price
28:19
Speaker 7: of gas being high and the price of groceries hits
28:22
Speaker 7: people hard. So I support any temporary immediate solutions like
28:28
Speaker 7: suspending the gas tax. I was really glad that President
28:32
Speaker 7: Trump eased the regulations on the red dye diesel. I
28:35
Speaker 7: think that will definitely help farmers. But I think the
28:38
Speaker 7: long-term solutions are easing regulations on oil refineries. You know,
28:43
Speaker 7: that brings the price of gas down permanently. Obviously, when
28:47
Speaker 7: the war ends, the price of gas will come down, too. But, again,
28:50
Speaker 7: easing regulations on oil refineries is one way we can
28:54
Speaker 7: do it. And under Annie Andrews and the Democrats, this
28:57
Speaker 7: is not going to happen. She's endorsed by Jane Fonda's
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Speaker 7: Climate PAC, so they want more regulations. I mean, let's
29:04
Speaker 7: look at California. They've shut down the oil refineries there.
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Speaker 7: Gas is almost $ 7 a gallon, $ 2 above the national average.
29:14
Speaker 7: So that's what gas prices are going to be permanently
29:17
Speaker 7: high under the Democrats. Let's not forget that under Joe Biden,
29:22
Speaker 7: gas prices were higher.
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Speaker 5: Go ahead.
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Speaker 1: I was going to say, we're talking with Darlene Graham,
29:27
Speaker 1: who's making her case to be the next senator. Well,
29:30
Speaker 1: she is the senator right now, but to win here
29:33
Speaker 1: in just a couple of weeks, as we're Quickly approaching
29:36
Speaker 1: Election Day now. Is it safe to say that your
29:38
Speaker 1: attitude towards... oil refineries is very similar to your attitude
29:42
Speaker 1: towards the data centers, that the local community should have
29:45
Speaker 1: the biggest say on that?
29:47
Speaker 7: Absolutely. I've co-sponsored the Ratepayer Protection Act. And what that
29:52
Speaker 7: does is it gives the local communities the ability to
29:56
Speaker 7: work with these tech companies to decide if they want
30:00
Speaker 7: a data center built or not. There are some states
30:03
Speaker 7: where they're being built and it's lowering property taxes. They're
30:07
Speaker 7: helping fund police departments and, you know, they're helping the communities.
30:11
Speaker 7: But again, that should be the communities deciding whether or
30:15
Speaker 7: not They work with these big tech companies, but the
30:18
Speaker 7: Ratepayer Protection Act does protect local communities from utility increases.
30:24
Speaker 7: So it protects them from increased utility bills and allows
30:29
Speaker 7: them to decide whether or not they want to work
30:31
Speaker 7: with these tech companies to build the data centers in
30:34
Speaker 7: the local communities.
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Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a pause there. And when we
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Speaker 1: come back, Christopher Thompson responds. Hopefully you respond. Use the
30:44
Speaker 1: talkback feature. Thoughts on the Darlene Graham interview. Again, if
30:47
Speaker 1: you want to hear the entire interview, that's up on
30:49
Speaker 1: the National Briefing podcast, which you can find exclusively on
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30:59
Speaker 5: Good morning from Mount Pleasant.
31:01
Speaker 3: This is Nurse Rosie.
31:02
Speaker 5: I just want to say that... Being from Mount Pleasant,
31:06
Speaker 5: I am incredibly happy that they did place a two-year,
31:10
Speaker 5: even if it's not a moratorium, but delay on the
31:12
Speaker 5: data centers. I think we will all realize sooner rather
31:15
Speaker 5: than later the physical detriment that those cause. Next, do
31:20
Speaker 5: flock cameras. Also, thank you for interviewing Darlene. I know
31:25
Speaker 5: we were all unsure, but she sounded great.
31:29
Speaker 1: All right, Nurse Rosie checking in from Mount Pleasant. Certainly
31:33
Speaker 1: appreciate you using the Talkback feature this morning and letting
31:36
Speaker 1: us know your thoughts. We were talking earlier about Mount
31:38
Speaker 1: Pleasant with the two-year situation on the data centers and
31:43
Speaker 1: also just responding to our interview with Darlene Graham here. Christopher,
31:46
Speaker 1: what is your initial response?
31:48
Speaker 3: All right, Kelly, right off the bat, I'm going to
31:50
Speaker 3: say what I said in the last hour. If this
31:53
Speaker 3: is Darlene Graham, why hasn't she been out and exposed more? Again,
31:59
Speaker 3: maybe somebody's handing her notes while you're asking questions, but
32:02
Speaker 3: she sounds like a I mean, a relatively polished politician.
32:07
Speaker 3: She's not Lindsey Graham. No one ever can be. But
32:10
Speaker 3: she's answering questions in the way you would expect a
32:14
Speaker 3: Republican to answer questions. I'm not sure why they've kept
32:17
Speaker 3: her under wraps. I know it's different when you're on
32:20
Speaker 3: a debate stage. It's different when you're facing, you know,
32:23
Speaker 3: live a live barrage of reporters questions.
32:26
Speaker 2: But she's doing a great job with you so far.
32:29
Speaker 3: I expected what she had to say about diesel fuel
32:32
Speaker 3: and the sanctions against Russia. I know she owes everything
32:36
Speaker 3: she has right now to Donald Trump. Lindsey Graham would
32:40
Speaker 3: greatly disagree with Trump on this one, but she can't
32:43
Speaker 3: afford that. So she simply said, you know, I did
32:46
Speaker 3: what I did. However, you know, it's ultimately the president's decision,
32:49
Speaker 3: and I'm sure he's trying to bring gas prices down,
32:52
Speaker 3: which will ultimately be good for all of us. She
32:54
Speaker 3: had a good answer. It wouldn't be my answer. It
32:56
Speaker 3: wouldn't be Lindsey Graham's answer, but she had a good answer.
32:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to imagine. I think Lindsey Graham probably
33:03
Speaker 1: would be seen golfing with the president very soon. And
33:07
Speaker 1: then somehow something would happen with Russia. That was a
33:12
Speaker 1: typical Lindsey Graham type of deal. You were talking a
33:17
Speaker 1: little bit off the air with me about her, you know,
33:21
Speaker 1: Not being pleased with who is supporting any interest.
33:25
Speaker 3: The Jane Fonda PAC, which, you know, was a highlight
33:29
Speaker 3: of that debate. It came up how many times? Six,
33:31
Speaker 3: seven times, I think, during that debate. And she managed
33:34
Speaker 3: to squeeze that in again with you. I'm sure she realizes,
33:38
Speaker 3: you know, most people view Jane Fonda as a, you know,
33:41
Speaker 3: a leftist who has been anti-American for a while, certainly
33:44
Speaker 3: is anti-fossil fuels.
33:46
Speaker 6: So.
33:47
Speaker 3: She's making it a point to align Annie Andrews, her opponent,
33:51
Speaker 3: with Jane Fonda.
33:52
Speaker 2: Probably a shrewd move.
33:53
Speaker 3: I didn't think we'd hear that much about Jane Fonda
33:55
Speaker 3: in this election.
33:56
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting that Jane Fonda, you mentioned anti-American.
34:00
Speaker 1: You go all the way back to the nickname Hanoi
34:02
Speaker 1: Jane and how Jane Fonda, I don't want to say
34:04
Speaker 1: she was ahead of the curve on being anti-American because
34:07
Speaker 1: there was certainly a huge anti-American rhetoric even then. And
34:10
Speaker 1: I think, sadly, we still see many of those aging
34:16
Speaker 1: baby boomers still out in the protest streets thinking that
34:20
Speaker 1: they're protesting something like as significant as the Vietnam war
34:24
Speaker 1: was they're out here protesting, you know, the no Kings rally,
34:29
Speaker 1: the stuff like that. It's just stupid stuff that they're
34:32
Speaker 1: engaged with now. And then this whole climate change thing that,
34:35
Speaker 1: that I wish that they had some data to back
34:39
Speaker 1: up their, their statements. Unfortunately they don't. And what they
34:42
Speaker 1: do is they push a narrative that, And it's a
34:44
Speaker 1: very dangerous narrative that you being alive is going to
34:48
Speaker 1: end the earth. So it's you or the earth. That's
34:51
Speaker 1: basically the, that they're giving us on the far left. So,
34:56
Speaker 1: all right, we'll have more responses to what's going on
34:59
Speaker 1: with Darlene Graham in her interview. And again, if you
35:01
Speaker 1: want to hear the entire thing, check out the national
35:04
Speaker 1: briefing podcast on the iHeartRadio app. It's 717.
35:07
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35:22
Speaker 1: Chad Pergram there with a depressing message that basically it's
35:27
Speaker 1: crap or crappier. Who are you voting for this season?
35:31
Speaker 1: That was rough to hear.
35:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just looking at a new Gallup poll that
35:35
Speaker 3: shows Democrats leading Republicans on the economy and favorability ahead
35:41
Speaker 3: of the midterms. But Gallup goes on to add, despite
35:44
Speaker 3: the Democrat Party's current advantages, a majority of Americans still
35:49
Speaker 3: view Democrats unfavorably.
35:51
Speaker 1: Yeah. Americans are very upset with their politicians as of
35:56
Speaker 1: this very moment. And not a good time to be
35:59
Speaker 1: trying to win an election for anybody. Now, we were
36:01
Speaker 1: talking to Darlene Graham earlier. And again, if you want
36:04
Speaker 1: to hear that entire interview, check out the National Briefing podcast.
36:07
Speaker 1: But she we obviously had to make a big deal
36:11
Speaker 1: out of the fact that she and her brother. very
36:17
Speaker 1: tough on the sanctions against Russia, and then Trump rolls
36:20
Speaker 1: them back over the weekend, Monday. And she had the answer,
36:26
Speaker 1: which is that Trump is trying to lower gas prices,
36:29
Speaker 1: diesel prices, etc. I mean, I hate to say it,
36:34
Speaker 1: but that probably was the intent, but there's really not
36:40
Speaker 1: enough there to do anything. I mean, you're looking at
36:44
Speaker 1: was it like 300,000 barrels or something like that? Diesel
36:49
Speaker 1: futures on Monday dropped one cent after the announcement. One cent.
36:55
Speaker 1: That is not the answer. It's not going to be
36:58
Speaker 1: the answer. I think a better answer would be to
37:02
Speaker 1: more aggressively support the Ukraine and help them win this war.
37:09
Speaker 1: That would be, I would think, and that would be
37:11
Speaker 1: a geopolitical shift of epic proportions if Russia was taken
37:17
Speaker 1: down by the Ukraine, if there was a forced surrender,
37:21
Speaker 1: which is, again, very difficult, not expecting that to happen
37:25
Speaker 1: easily or quickly, but also getting Russia back on, you know,
37:30
Speaker 1: trading oil with us is not going to affect much.
37:33
Speaker 1: And it hasn't affected much, and it's not going to
37:35
Speaker 1: affect much. They don't have much to give. Trump out
37:38
Speaker 1: here waving his arms, yelling about the fact that Zelensky
37:41
Speaker 1: has hit a couple of their refineries. You know what? Again,
37:45
Speaker 1: they're not really producing a whole lot of oil to
37:48
Speaker 1: begin with. I'd like to see Zelensky hit all others,
37:51
Speaker 1: just take them off the grid. Boom, Russia, you got nothing.
37:54
Speaker 1: Now what are you going to do? Now people are
37:56
Speaker 1: going to start starving. You've already lost one and a
37:59
Speaker 1: half million people in Russia. How many more are you
38:02
Speaker 1: willing to lose? I know Putin seems like he's willing
38:04
Speaker 1: to lose them all. But at some point, the Russian
38:08
Speaker 1: people will say, this is insane. Why are we doing this?
38:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we say this all the time with
38:14
Speaker 3: the Iranians and the Revolutionary Guard there. You can't negotiate
38:19
Speaker 3: with Putin. Every time Trump says we've got a ceasefire,
38:22
Speaker 3: Trump or Putin violates it.
38:24
Speaker 1: That was funny the way Zelensky was like, well, I'm wondering,
38:28
Speaker 1: does he read truth social? We're expecting Putin to honor
38:31
Speaker 1: these words of the president.
38:32
Speaker 5: Right.
38:33
Speaker 1: I mean, Zelensky legitimately, I mean, like not, for those
38:37
Speaker 1: of you who don't know about this, he was a
38:38
Speaker 1: standup comic. I mean, that's kind of what his thing
38:41
Speaker 1: was for 20 years or whatever. And he is one
38:44
Speaker 1: of those, if you watch the documentaries on him, I
38:47
Speaker 1: do not like Sean Penn at all. But if you
38:50
Speaker 1: watch that documentary that Sean Penn made about Zelensky, it's
38:53
Speaker 1: very interesting to see what his mindset was like during
38:56
Speaker 1: the beginning of the war. And he's, look, standup comic
39:02
Speaker 1: or not, The guy has definitely become a global figure
39:07
Speaker 1: who has shocked everybody. The Ukrainians have shocked everybody with
39:11
Speaker 1: their ability to not only survive the initial barrage, but
39:15
Speaker 1: then to actually counter attack with new technology. And I
39:20
Speaker 1: think the U.S. military is now learning from the Ukrainians
39:23
Speaker 1: how to use this drone warfare.
39:25
Speaker 3: Oh, they've reshaped the face of war. I mean, it's
39:29
Speaker 3: going to be about drones. and it's going to be
39:30
Speaker 3: about AI in the future.
39:32
Speaker 1: So that's– again, I'm for punishing the Russians personally. And
39:38
Speaker 1: I don't mean the Russian people. I almost feel like
39:40
Speaker 1: I'm like the Iranians when they chant death to America. Well,
39:43
Speaker 1: we don't mean you Americans. We mean your government. I
39:46
Speaker 1: mean death to the Russian leadership, the way they are
39:50
Speaker 1: running the country as a terrorist organization who helps the Iranians,
39:56
Speaker 1: helps our enemies. And like you said, Christopher, you can't
39:59
Speaker 1: negotiate with Putin. He just cannot do it. Nothing he
40:02
Speaker 1: says is going to be. He's a liar and a killer,
40:05
Speaker 1: and that's who he is, and that's who he's always
40:07
Speaker 1: going to be. So thoughts on that? Do you like
40:10
Speaker 1: the deal? Do you think that it will eventually drive
40:12
Speaker 1: down oil prices? You think I'm wrong on that one?
40:15
Speaker 1: You'd like to see us maybe partner a little bit
40:17
Speaker 1: more with Russia to try to help lower the oil
40:19
Speaker 1: prices for everybody. Everybody wants lower oil prices. Is this
40:22
Speaker 1: the way to go? Thoughts on that or anything else,
40:25
Speaker 1: we take them on the Talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app.
40:27
Speaker 1: It's 728-728-7288.
40:29
Speaker 4: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
40:33
Speaker 4: Morning News.
40:34
Speaker 1: And it is 7.33, Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson. We
40:38
Speaker 1: were just talking about Chad Pergram and his Speaker's Lobby
40:42
Speaker 1: segment about 15, 20 minutes ago, talking about how voters
40:46
Speaker 1: are not happy with anything. And obviously, we also heard
40:50
Speaker 1: from Christopher Thompson bringing up the most recent Gallup poll,
40:53
Speaker 1: which confirms exactly what Chad was saying. I think a
40:56
Speaker 1: lot of it has to do with the way the
40:58
Speaker 1: Democrats campaign. And I point to less than 24 hours ago,
41:02
Speaker 1: Jamie Raskin on the Morning Joe show, and this is
41:04
Speaker 1: what his point was.
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Speaker 6: People understand that Donald Trump has made a deal there, too.
41:10
Speaker 6: He's totally in the pocket of the big AI companies
41:15
Speaker 6: that just want to throw caution to the winds in
41:18
Speaker 6: terms of artificial intelligence.
41:20
Speaker 1: And the data centers.
41:21
Speaker 6: I was campaigning down in Florida with Angie Nixon, who
41:25
Speaker 6: has said if there's going to be another data center
41:27
Speaker 6: in Florida, it should be built at Mar-a-Lago. And she's
41:32
Speaker 6: really gaining traction by showing that AI, like everything else,
41:37
Speaker 6: is not taken as a matter of public policy, where
41:40
Speaker 6: we weigh the positives and the negatives and we try
41:42
Speaker 6: to come up with a coherent public philosophy on how
41:45
Speaker 6: we're going to deal with it. It is just a
41:48
Speaker 6: pay-to-play system. with Donald Trump. This election is between two
41:52
Speaker 6: visions of government. And one says the government must be
41:55
Speaker 6: an instrument for the common good of all of the people.
41:58
Speaker 6: And the other says that the government must be an
42:00
Speaker 6: instrument of private self-enrichment for the guy who gets in
42:04
Speaker 6: and his family and his corporations. And they've been running
42:06
Speaker 6: the government like that. Everybody understands it. The GOP now
42:10
Speaker 6: has nothing to offer other than war, inflation, higher gas
42:15
Speaker 6: and diesel prices and corruption.
42:17
Speaker 1: To the country. That's amazing. They get any votes with that,
42:20
Speaker 1: if that's the offer.
42:21
Speaker 2: Wow.
42:22
Speaker 1: I would, first off, when he says that Trump is
42:26
Speaker 1: enriching himself, correct. Yes, I'm not going to push back
42:30
Speaker 1: on that. Donald Trump is making money off AI. But
42:33
Speaker 1: you know who else is? You. There's 156 million Americans
42:39
Speaker 1: who have stock in the S & P 500. They
42:41
Speaker 1: just bought the spectrum. If the S & P 500
42:44
Speaker 1: goes up, you make money. That's 156 million Americans. And
42:49
Speaker 1: 58% now of the S & P 500 is made
42:52
Speaker 1: up of AI companies or adjacent companies, Microsoft, Nvidia, those
42:58
Speaker 1: types of companies. So, yes, the Trump family owns a
43:02
Speaker 1: bunch of stocks in there. So do you. Everybody's making
43:05
Speaker 1: money on that. That's not a reason to not do it.
43:10
Speaker 1: And by the way, I mentioned earlier, we have three companies.
43:13
Speaker 1: three data centers in West Palm Beach now. So it's
43:17
Speaker 1: not as if they're not putting them, again, those are
43:19
Speaker 1: the top 1% are voting on that. But to his
43:22
Speaker 1: other points, when you start thinking about who is corrupt
43:27
Speaker 1: and who is not, when you call somebody corrupt, that
43:30
Speaker 1: is a pretty serious charge. Which party voted to not
43:38
Speaker 1: stop insider trading. That was the Democrats. The Democrats put
43:42
Speaker 1: a kill on the Nancy Pelosi Stock Act.
43:46
Speaker 6: Why?
43:47
Speaker 1: Why was it that the American people overwhelmingly wanted that passed,
43:51
Speaker 1: but the Democrats didn't? I'm not saying that, again, that
43:55
Speaker 1: no Republicans are benefiting from it. Of course, there's Republicans
43:58
Speaker 1: who are taking advantage of insider information that they get
44:01
Speaker 1: in their congressional role or whatever. To trade on stocks.
44:05
Speaker 1: But the Democrats are the ones who stopped it. Which
44:09
Speaker 1: party has the Somali fraud? And who was behind that
44:14
Speaker 1: Somali fraud? And which party has the outrageous audacity to
44:21
Speaker 1: have 78% of every hospice dollar going to one county
44:27
Speaker 1: in this country? And then passed... Which party then passed the...
44:33
Speaker 1: Stop Nick Shirley Act. In other words, there will be
44:37
Speaker 1: no citizen journalists because if it's a citizen journalist, they're
44:40
Speaker 1: not beholden to a news agency. And if they're not
44:42
Speaker 1: beholden to a news agency, when the news agency says
44:45
Speaker 1: you're making the governor uncomfortable, stop reporting on that. There's
44:49
Speaker 1: nobody to stop them. They just go ahead and investigate, investigate, investigate.
44:52
Speaker 1: Why would you not want transparency? What the Democrats are
44:56
Speaker 1: accusing the Republicans of are, in fact, what they are doing.
44:59
Speaker 1: And that has always been the case. So when you
45:01
Speaker 1: start talking about corruption, you start talking about politicians enriching themselves,
45:06
Speaker 1: all that, that is their party. So, yeah, I don't
45:10
Speaker 1: blame Americans right now who don't really pay a lot
45:12
Speaker 1: of attention. And they're like, oh, this guy's talking about
45:15
Speaker 1: Trump's getting rich and he's doing everything for his own
45:17
Speaker 1: family and Oh, man, we do have high gas prices
45:21
Speaker 1: and maybe the Democrats are the better way. I don't know.
45:24
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. Democrats seem kind of crazy, too.
45:27
Speaker 1: So I'm just very frustrated. One party is pushing for
45:31
Speaker 1: more freedom, lower. Ask me, when's the last time a
45:35
Speaker 1: Democrat talked about lowering taxes? Never. They talk about. increasing
45:41
Speaker 1: taxes on the rich, but they never talk about lowering
45:43
Speaker 1: taxes for the middle class. The middle class is what
45:47
Speaker 1: runs this country, and we deserve more of our money.
45:50
Speaker 1: If you and I and the people in the middle
45:53
Speaker 1: class got more of our money, we would do good
45:55
Speaker 1: things with it, like have vacations and support the tourist industry,
46:00
Speaker 1: or we would support restaurants, or we would support small businesses, whomever.
46:05
Speaker 1: But We don't have our money because the Democrats want it.
46:08
Speaker 1: And they take it to D.C. and they do stupid
46:10
Speaker 1: stuff like fund U.S. aid. Give us a tax break
46:14
Speaker 1: and let us run the economy. Oh, I'm so frustrated.
46:17
Speaker 2: I can feel it.
46:18
Speaker 1: Jamie Raskin. Jamie Raskin, the guy who hid under his desk.
46:24
Speaker 3: Anyway, how many hospices, how many hospices were located just
46:29
Speaker 3: in that strip mall that Nick Shirley was walking through
46:33
Speaker 3: and how many patients were they supposed to have?
46:35
Speaker 1: It was like thousands.
46:36
Speaker 9: And then, and you notice like everybody there that was there,
46:40
Speaker 9: most of them didn't even show up, but they had
46:42
Speaker 9: like these Ferraris and all these luxury high end super
46:45
Speaker 9: cars that go for a half million or more.
46:48
Speaker 3: Why would you be against weeding out that kind of
46:50
Speaker 3: fraud so that your constituents, Democrat or Republican, could get
46:55
Speaker 3: their fair share.
46:56
Speaker 1: You know what? We will address that issue when we
46:59
Speaker 1: come back. We'll take a break, and maybe you've got
47:01
Speaker 1: thoughts on that as well. Let us know on the
47:02
Speaker 1: Talkback feature. It's 7.40.
47:04
Speaker 4: This is South Carolina's Morning News on 103.5 FM and
47:08
Speaker 4: 560 AM, WVOC, Columbia, and 94.3 WSC, Charleston.
47:15
Speaker 1: 7.45, Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson, who asked a great
47:19
Speaker 1: question just before the commercial break. Why would a Democrat,
47:23
Speaker 1: why wouldn't everybody, be against fraud. If you see money
47:27
Speaker 1: being wasted, it's going to criminal organizations like you saw
47:31
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. You saw the Feeding Our Future program built
47:37
Speaker 1: out of $ 250 million. And according to some reports, at
47:42
Speaker 1: least $ 50 million of that ended up back in Somalia.
47:46
Speaker 1: Some of it is believed to have actually funded terrorism.
47:49
Speaker 1: So the U.S. taxpayer money is going from your pocket
47:54
Speaker 1: to D.C., from D.C. to a fake Somali leering center,
47:59
Speaker 1: and then from the leering center back to Somalia, where
48:01
Speaker 1: it's used to then actually go against Christians and try
48:05
Speaker 1: to kill Christians in terrorist activities. Why would you stop?
48:07
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't a politician say, you know what, I want
48:10
Speaker 1: to help people? There's a lot of great people who
48:12
Speaker 1: need help. Why wouldn't they stop that? And the answer
48:16
Speaker 1: is because the more the problems are, the more money
48:19
Speaker 1: they can ask for. For example, you look at the
48:21
Speaker 1: budget right now. HUD spends about $ 4 billion a year
48:25
Speaker 1: on the homeless. A lot of that goes to where?
48:27
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Los Angeles, under Mayor Bass's leadership, and I
48:33
Speaker 1: use that as almost an ironic term, has the population
48:38
Speaker 1: of the homeless have swelled. You look at what they
48:42
Speaker 1: call Skid Row. Skid Row is just block after block
48:46
Speaker 1: after block of homeless people living under tarps. Any civilized
48:51
Speaker 1: country in the world would say, you got to stop that.
48:54
Speaker 1: You got to get them off the streets. You can't
48:56
Speaker 1: have them just blocking traffic and things of that nature,
48:58
Speaker 1: defecating in the open public, using drug needles all over
49:03
Speaker 1: the place. That's not how they feel about it in
49:05
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. They treasure the homeless. Why? Because the budget
49:10
Speaker 1: for the homeless continues to swell from the federal government.
49:13
Speaker 1: They continue to get more and more. As they show
49:15
Speaker 1: that the need is greater and greater, they get more money. Also,
49:18
Speaker 1: they also get more money from nonprofits. Now, where are
49:21
Speaker 1: the nonprofits getting the money from? I can't say. That
49:24
Speaker 1: could possibly be just straight up donations, although I believe
49:27
Speaker 1: a lot of it comes from the federal government as well.
49:30
Speaker 1: And then they pour it into what they said. Look
49:32
Speaker 1: at the homeless needs over here. And then where's Karen Bass?
49:35
Speaker 1: Karen Bass becomes the first mayor in Los Angeles history
49:38
Speaker 1: to appoint herself to the homeless commission. And then as
49:41
Speaker 1: soon as she appoints herself to the homeless commission, they
49:44
Speaker 1: move their digs into some luxury high rise, which has
49:47
Speaker 1: access to a Maybach, a.
49:48
Speaker 2: Maybach and a helipad. So she can come and go.
49:52
Speaker 5: Yeah.
49:52
Speaker 1: I mean, it's, it's insane how these Democrats, and again, the,
49:56
Speaker 1: the more the need or the believed need, then the
50:00
Speaker 1: more money that can come in. And it not only
50:02
Speaker 1: helps their friends with the nonprofits, it helps their friends,
50:05
Speaker 1: who want to run these organizations. And then there's this
50:08
Speaker 1: thing that, like, look at my cause. My cause is
50:12
Speaker 1: to fight drug addiction in the city. Well, how are
50:15
Speaker 1: you fighting it? You're actually giving them more drugs. You're
50:18
Speaker 1: not fighting it. You're encouraging it.
50:20
Speaker 2: Giving them clean needles.
50:22
Speaker 1: The Democrats are so openly ripping us off right now. And, again,
50:27
Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody votes for a Democrat unless—
50:30
Speaker 1: you have a big heart and a little mind. Big heart,
50:33
Speaker 1: little mind, that equals a Democrat. But for anybody else
50:36
Speaker 1: who's sane, you should never vote Democrat ever again. All right,
50:39
Speaker 1: I'm running late. It is 7.48.
50:40
Speaker 8: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
50:47
Speaker 10: Hey guys, Carl from Charleston. Why are Democrats seem to
50:52
Speaker 10: be so for allowing fraud? It's because they love to
50:56
Speaker 10: pit groups emotionally against the Republican Party. And that's exactly
51:02
Speaker 10: what they do with every bit of these frauds.
51:05
Speaker 1: Was that Paul from Charleston?
51:06
Speaker 4: Carl. Carl.
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Speaker 1: Carl from Charleston. Thank you for using the talkback feature, sir.
51:10
Speaker 1: Certainly appreciate it. And, yes, Democrats, Marxists love to pit
51:18
Speaker 1: people against each other. That is an age-old trick. Now,
51:21
Speaker 1: if you look at what was going on in Russia
51:23
Speaker 1: years ago, before they became the Soviet Union, Stalin and
51:27
Speaker 1: Lenin and those people, they loved to bring in chaos.
51:30
Speaker 1: They would release the criminals from the prisons in order
51:33
Speaker 1: to get chaos in the streets and then have the
51:36
Speaker 1: people beg for some sort of help. That's a Democrat
51:40
Speaker 1: trick called illegal immigrants. We're anti-ice. We're sanctuary cities. We
51:44
Speaker 1: want chaos. If you look at how China is, became
51:49
Speaker 1: a communist country. Now, all they had to do was
51:52
Speaker 1: pit you against each other based off economics, and that's
51:56
Speaker 1: all they had, right? You couldn't point at somebody looking different.
51:59
Speaker 1: They certainly didn't have access to somebody's gay or not
52:02
Speaker 1: gay or somebody's transgendered or whatever. Here in America, we
52:06
Speaker 1: have so many different ways that they can divide us,
52:09
Speaker 1: and they push down on that. They push down on it,
52:13
Speaker 1: and again, goes against exactly what Martin Luther King, who
52:16
Speaker 1: used to be one of their heroes— We talk about
52:18
Speaker 1: judging a person off the content of their character, not
52:21
Speaker 1: how they look, but that's not where they're at today.
52:24
Speaker 3: No, and it also makes Republicans look like villains when
52:27
Speaker 3: they're against the homeless or, you know, pick your faction.
52:32
Speaker 4: Hmm.
52:33
Speaker 1: We're going to cut the budget to the homeless. You monster.
52:37
Speaker 1: It's all being used for fraud. You're still a monster.
52:41
Speaker 1: All right. We'll take a break. Be back with more
52:43
Speaker 1: of your talkbacks as well. This is South Carolina's morning news.
52:46
Speaker 1: It's seven 55.
52:47
Speaker 4: This is South Carolina's morning news.
52:51
Speaker 1: Speaking of the South Carolina state fair, I will be
52:54
Speaker 1: there Thursday afternoon for the opening, um, I don't know
52:59
Speaker 1: why I do this to myself, Christopher, but it is
53:01
Speaker 1: my annual humiliation ritual where I go and come in
53:07
Speaker 1: dead last in the boiled peanut eating contest.
53:11
Speaker 2: Well, you get a participation medal.
53:13
Speaker 1: You know what? Bill Shanahan from the Blowfish who puts
53:16
Speaker 1: this together every year. was saying that this year they
53:19
Speaker 1: are going to have participation trophies. And I was like,
53:22
Speaker 1: I don't want one. I hate those things. But he
53:25
Speaker 1: said that it's very nice. So anyway, we'll be there
53:28
Speaker 1: with all the local media people competing. And again, I
53:33
Speaker 1: have come in last every single year. I don't understand
53:35
Speaker 1: how to eat a boiled peanut. Like, how do you
53:37
Speaker 1: get it out of the shell? I haven't figured that out.
53:40
Speaker 1: uh leon lott is the uh i think the all-time
53:43
Speaker 1: champion it ate the most the sheriff here in richland
53:45
Speaker 1: county jay coon is very good at it the lexington
53:47
Speaker 1: county sheriff uh they'll be competing as well so i'll
53:51
Speaker 1: be behind them and then i don't know if we're
53:53
Speaker 1: going to get who else is coming back from the
53:55
Speaker 1: media but they all beat me every year except last
53:57
Speaker 1: year i tied rick henry so that was my highlight
53:59
Speaker 1: of my life i guess so we'll do that thursday
54:02
Speaker 1: and then later on thursday i'll be introducing craig morgan
54:05
Speaker 1: over at the ice house amphitheater that's a fundraiser for
54:07
Speaker 1: laredac and that's in lexington Yes. So I'll be busy.
54:12
Speaker 1: I got I got to drive immediately from the boiled
54:14
Speaker 1: peanut eating contest to Lexington for the Ice House Amphitheater
54:19
Speaker 1: and the Craig Morgan charity concert. So busy Thursday coming down.
54:23
Speaker 1: In the meantime, last night was a busy night in
54:25
Speaker 1: Georgia and they had their big debate again. And now
54:30
Speaker 1: the I think the biggest takeaway from last night's Georgia
54:33
Speaker 1: debate between Ossoff and Collins for the running for Senate.
54:37
Speaker 1: is that Ossoff has now for the first time said
54:41
Speaker 1: he would not seek the presidency. So I don't know
54:45
Speaker 1: if that's some sort of consolation prize or something. I
54:48
Speaker 1: wouldn't have expected that he would have done much in
54:50
Speaker 1: the presidential term. Again, I looked at Ossoff as a
54:53
Speaker 1: very beatable candidate in Georgia. Unfortunately, Mr. Collins does not
54:58
Speaker 1: seem to be up to the task. They got bogged
55:00
Speaker 1: down again last night. for no less than seven minutes
55:05
Speaker 1: talking about whether or not Donald Trump won the 2020 election.
55:08
Speaker 2: Oh, for Pete's sake.
55:09
Speaker 1: And, you know, why is it that Mike Collins can't
55:14
Speaker 1: figure out to say, can I ask you a question then?
55:17
Speaker 1: Did Stacey Abrams win the Georgia governorship? Because she's still
55:21
Speaker 1: talking about it. And that was like 2018, right?
55:27
Speaker 2: Perfect response.
55:28
Speaker 1: I mean, we're here in Georgia. Stacey Abrams is making
55:30
Speaker 1: a big deal out of the fact that she thinks
55:32
Speaker 1: she's still the real governor. Did she win? The Democrat
55:35
Speaker 1: Party is not disavowed. The Democrat Party says she was
55:38
Speaker 1: ripped off. If the Republicans want to say that Donald
55:41
Speaker 1: Trump was ripped off, why is that a problem? It
55:43
Speaker 1: doesn't change anything. Did Joe Biden get to serve four years? Yep.
55:47
Speaker 1: Did Joe Biden get all his appointments? Did he make
55:48
Speaker 1: sure that he got the dumbest Supreme Court justice in history? Yep.
55:52
Speaker 1: Got it. So what are you all upset about? And
55:55
Speaker 1: they talk, I mean, they talk about all kinds of
55:56
Speaker 1: different things. And I look at, like, the Epstein files.
56:00
Speaker 1: They were fighting over the Epstein files again. I'm looking here.
56:04
Speaker 1: This is the Emerson College poll conducted September 21st and
56:08
Speaker 1: 22nd of this year. So it's relatively recent. No Epstein
56:14
Speaker 1: files on there. That is not a concern for the
56:16
Speaker 1: American voter at this point. Number one, Iran war. Number two, jobs.
56:22
Speaker 1: Number three, now this is interesting, tariff policy. Number four,
56:29
Speaker 1: gas prices. I'm thinking that people are probably putting those
56:32
Speaker 1: two together. Also, number five, immigration policy. Number six, AI regulation.
56:38
Speaker 1: Number seven, interest rates. Number eight, Israel-Gaza. And number nine,
56:44
Speaker 1: data centers. Couldn't we just take the Iran war and
56:47
Speaker 1: put that in with the Israel-Gaza conflict and just kind
56:49
Speaker 1: of tie it all into a nice little package?
56:51
Speaker 2: You would think so.
56:53
Speaker 3: I'm surprised affordability, in general, I understand that those are
56:58
Speaker 3: all various aspects of the economy you mentioned, but I
57:01
Speaker 3: thought affordability was the issue.
57:03
Speaker 1: Well, I think in essence it is, because I think
57:07
Speaker 1: most people look at the Iran war as an affordability issue.
57:09
Speaker 3: They look at that related to gas prices.
57:11
Speaker 1: They look at the gas prices. They look at food prices.
57:14
Speaker 1: They look at all that. Then you have gas prices
57:16
Speaker 1: individually put out of that. And then you also have
57:20
Speaker 1: interest rates as part of this as well. So yeah, again,
57:24
Speaker 1: affordability is a nice little coverall. They just kind of
57:27
Speaker 1: say nothing's affordable now. And again, you went through the
57:32
Speaker 1: worst inflation rate of most of our lifetimes under Joe
57:35
Speaker 1: Biden at 9%. Trump's got it at a little over
57:38
Speaker 1: three right now. And again, still too high. And that's, again,
57:43
Speaker 1: why the Fed continues to want to push those interest
57:46
Speaker 1: rates up is because the inflation is too high. The
57:49
Speaker 1: inflation is too high is because the consumer spending is
57:52
Speaker 1: too high. It's one of those ironic catch-alls where you're like, well,
57:56
Speaker 1: is it? Then the question becomes, is the spending too high?
58:01
Speaker 1: Because everything's so expensive. But it can't be that because
58:06
Speaker 1: we're buying too much stuff. They're saying we have to
58:08
Speaker 1: lower the amount of stuff that we're buying in order
58:10
Speaker 1: to lower the interest rates.
58:13
Speaker 2: Wow.
58:14
Speaker 1: It's a painful mess that we find ourselves in.
58:16
Speaker 2: And what number did you say immigration was?
58:19
Speaker 1: Immigration was fifth at 3.69.
58:22
Speaker 3: I have a feeling if Trump had another term, he
58:27
Speaker 3: would probably go about solving that problem himself.
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Speaker 2: A little bit slower.
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Speaker 3: He did it so quickly that I think people have
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Speaker 3: forgotten what it was like two and a half, three
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Speaker 3: years ago.
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Speaker 1: You know what, when they throw in immigration, Christopher, I
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Speaker 1: think they're also talking about the fact that a lot
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Speaker 1: of Americans don't want to see what they would consider,
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Speaker 1: I'll say, good illegal aliens deported. There's a big concern
58:52
Speaker 1: amongst a lot of Americans like, hey, so-and-so has been
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Speaker 1: living down the street for 15, 20 years, hasn't caused
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Speaker 1: any problems, got a job. I don't want to see
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Speaker 1: him get deported. And again, if you're looking at a
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Speaker 1: sanctuary state or city, the reason we have those people
59:09
Speaker 1: getting caught up. up right now is because you're a
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Speaker 1: sanctuary city or state. You look at that guy who
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Speaker 1: they keep calling him Oscar to humanize him. Oscar up
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Speaker 1: in New York. Good old Oscar, the dad of the five-year-old.
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Speaker 1: If he had been turned over any of the times
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Speaker 1: that he had been arrested, which is multiple times. If
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Speaker 1: the New York City Police Department had just said to ICE, hey, look,
59:28
Speaker 1: we got this guy. He's a gangbanger. We've arrested him
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Speaker 1: on gangbanging charges. We've got him on this. We got
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Speaker 1: him on that. We keep bringing him back to jail.
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Speaker 1: At any point, if they had just called ICE, ICE
59:38
Speaker 1: doesn't have to patrol the streets. They can just come
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Speaker 1: and get people out of the jails. Then you're solving
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Speaker 1: the biggest part of the problem, getting the worst of
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Speaker 1: the worst off the streets. But you don't do that.
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Speaker 1: You hide them. And then here comes ICE. They're trying
59:51
Speaker 1: to find the worst of the worst. And unfortunately... Some
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Speaker 1: gangbangers like Oscar happen to live with or know or
1:00:00
Speaker 1: be friends with maybe not bad illegals, but they get
1:00:05
Speaker 1: caught up in it, and then they're going to. It's
1:00:08
Speaker 1: a mess.
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Speaker 3: And Oscar keeps his five-year-old in the car with him,
1:00:12
Speaker 3: and Ice gets villainized for that, even though Ice didn't
1:00:16
Speaker 3: know the five-year-old was in the car, but Oscar did.
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Speaker 1: And Kathy Hochul, you know, I talked to Oscar's mother
1:00:22
Speaker 1: and I was like, how can a five-year-old even process this?
1:00:26
Speaker 1: You know what? Why don't you ask her why she's
1:00:28
Speaker 1: having kids with that gangbanger? Why don't you ask her
1:00:31
Speaker 1: why she's allowing the gangbanger who's just fresh out of
1:00:33
Speaker 1: jail from a couple of weeks ago? Why don't you
1:00:35
Speaker 1: ask her why she's letting the five-year-old ride with Oscar?
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Speaker 1: That's a bigger question, Kathy. I'm a mother. I could never.
1:00:42
Speaker 1: Could you imagine taking your five-year-old and putting it in
1:00:44
Speaker 1: the car with a gangbanger who's just fresh off of
1:00:47
Speaker 1: robbing somebody on their moped gang? That's whatever their transnational
1:00:51
Speaker 1: gang is. They drive around New York City on mopeds
1:00:53
Speaker 1: and put guns in people's faces. Lovely guy. All right,
1:00:57
Speaker 1: we've got to take a break. We're running late. It's 8-11.
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Speaker 4: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
1:01:03
Speaker 1: And good morning to you. It is 8-15. This is
1:01:07
Speaker 1: Kelly Nash, Christopher Thompson. We were talking about debates last night.
1:01:10
Speaker 1: There was another debate, and not just the Georgia debate.
1:01:12
Speaker 1: Up in New York, Kathy Hochul taking on Bruce Blakeman.
1:01:17
Speaker 1: And Bruce Blakeman making some strong points.
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Speaker 11: Well, first of all, she'll never give Donald Trump any
1:01:24
Speaker 11: accolades for sealing our borders. Maybe that's why the shootings
1:01:28
Speaker 11: are down. Maybe that's why all the fentanyl deaths are down.
1:01:32
Speaker 11: Not by anything that you did. But let me say
1:01:34
Speaker 11: this about crime. If you walk into any CVS or
1:01:39
Speaker 11: Walgreens and you want to buy a bottle of shampoo,
1:01:42
Speaker 11: in Kathy Hochul's world, you got to ring a buzzer.
1:01:46
Speaker 11: A store clerk has to come out, unlock a glass
1:01:49
Speaker 11: door for you to buy a bottle of shampoo in
1:01:52
Speaker 11: New York State. It's because we have a revolving door
1:01:56
Speaker 11: of criminality, cashless bail, raise the age, the HALT Act.
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Speaker 11: And you talk about militias? You're the only one on
1:02:02
Speaker 11: this stage that has a militia. You have two, the
1:02:04
Speaker 11: National Guard and the State Guard. And you have the
1:02:06
Speaker 11: National Guard at the cost of a billion dollars a
1:02:09
Speaker 11: year to the taxpayers because you fired corrections officers who
1:02:13
Speaker 11: said these prisons are not only safe for corrections officers,
1:02:17
Speaker 11: they're not safe for the prisoners. And you fired them
1:02:20
Speaker 11: and put the National Guard in there. You're the one
1:02:23
Speaker 11: that used the militia, not me.
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Speaker 1: This guy, he's pretty good. He is pretty good. Now, unfortunately,
1:02:30
Speaker 1: if you're in New York, you probably will never see
1:02:32
Speaker 1: any of that debate because Kathy Hochul would only agree
1:02:36
Speaker 1: to a debate if it was on New York One.
1:02:40
Speaker 1: The entire base of New York One is 2 million people. Now,
1:02:47
Speaker 1: there's more than 10 million people just in New York City.
1:02:51
Speaker 1: So nobody even has access to watch that debate. So
1:02:54
Speaker 1: unless you're online, you know, social media actively searching this out.
1:02:59
Speaker 1: You won't see what Bruce Blakeman had to say, but
1:03:01
Speaker 1: he was making some good points last night.
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Speaker 3: So it was on the local cable access channel, kind
1:03:04
Speaker 3: of like Wayne's World was back in the day.
1:03:07
Speaker 1: You know what? That is exactly what it is. Wayne's World,
1:03:10
Speaker 1: Party World. Oh, my gosh.
1:03:12
Speaker 3: Well, at least give Bruce credit. At least he reminded people, yes,
1:03:16
Speaker 3: Trump is the one who closed the borders. Yes, crime
1:03:19
Speaker 3: is down. Yes, he made people safer from drugs like fentanyl.
1:03:23
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's got to be the Republicans have
1:03:25
Speaker 3: got to get on that message.
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Speaker 1: She was trying to take credit for the crime. She
1:03:28
Speaker 1: was she was like our strong policies. We've brought crime
1:03:31
Speaker 1: down in New York. You didn't do squat, lady. You
1:03:36
Speaker 1: point to the policy change that you made that brought
1:03:39
Speaker 1: down crime. Thank you. There is none. All right, we'll
1:03:42
Speaker 1: take a break. It is 818.
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1:03:58
Speaker 1: My name's Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson. Yesterday, we were
1:04:02
Speaker 1: talking about the raid on Ilhan Omar's house. And the
1:04:05
Speaker 1: reason we believe that the right now, nobody knows for sure,
1:04:10
Speaker 1: is because of a citizen journalist. I found out this morning,
1:04:13
Speaker 1: I didn't know that that lady who was the citizen
1:04:16
Speaker 1: journalist actually ran against Ilhan Omar and brought the case,
1:04:20
Speaker 1: was bringing the case that Ilhan Omar had an illegitimate
1:04:23
Speaker 1: birthright citizenship, excuse me, not a birthright citizenship, but she
1:04:27
Speaker 1: should have never been made an American citizen. Back in 2019,
1:04:32
Speaker 1: she was making that case when she was running against her.
1:04:34
Speaker 1: And she was showing at the time that if you
1:04:37
Speaker 1: look at all the records that show when Ilhan Omar
1:04:40
Speaker 1: was born, it was 1981, which would have been impossible
1:04:46
Speaker 1: for her to have been under the age of 18
1:04:48
Speaker 1: in the year 2000 when her father died. was made
1:04:53
Speaker 1: a citizen and brought his daughter along because she was
1:04:57
Speaker 1: a minor. She was an adult by any stretch of
1:05:00
Speaker 1: the imagination. And then a few months ago, they started
1:05:04
Speaker 1: changing the congressional, everything started changing. And all of a
1:05:07
Speaker 1: sudden her birthday became 1982. And that's probably what led
1:05:11
Speaker 1: to it. Now, I think Bridget Gabriel has a very
1:05:13
Speaker 1: interesting quote this morning. The raid on Ilhan Omar is
1:05:17
Speaker 1: not the DOJ weaponization or a MAGA conspiracy. It's the
1:05:20
Speaker 1: system working. The magistrate, now we don't know who signed
1:05:24
Speaker 1: the raid warrant. We don't know. But she says the
1:05:28
Speaker 1: magistrate most likely to have signed that warrant is Matthew J. Sharbo,
1:05:33
Speaker 1: who was sworn in by Chief Judge James Boasberg. Does
1:05:36
Speaker 1: that name ring a bell, Christopher?
1:05:38
Speaker 2: It does.
1:05:39
Speaker 1: Boasberg hates Trump and also clerked for an Obama appointee
1:05:44
Speaker 1: and has donated to the Democrats throughout his life. This
1:05:48
Speaker 1: guy is not a MAGA plant. He's not a Republican.
1:05:51
Speaker 1: He's a judge who reviewed the evidence and signed it.
1:05:54
Speaker 1: No one is above the law. I also loved Roger
1:05:58
Speaker 1: Stone's tweet. I think it was yesterday. You know, the
1:06:02
Speaker 1: media crying about the raid on Ilhan Omar's house. Nobody
1:06:06
Speaker 1: was crying when they were raiding my house and grabbing
1:06:09
Speaker 1: my hearing impaired wife and putting her in handcuffs and
1:06:12
Speaker 1: dragging her out in the street. As a matter of fact,
1:06:14
Speaker 1: not only were they not crying about it, they were
1:06:16
Speaker 1: filming it live on CNN.
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Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
1:06:19
Speaker 1: We didn't have any media coverage yesterday. No. I'm surprised, though,
1:06:24
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't have done that.
1:06:25
Speaker 2: I'm surprised, too.
1:06:26
Speaker 3: Well, they obviously didn't want to make it look as
1:06:28
Speaker 3: if this was a political investigation. This is simply the
1:06:32
Speaker 3: federal government doing its job.
1:06:35
Speaker 1: In all honesty, I do believe— first off, you brought it
1:06:38
Speaker 1: up the other day that she said, investigate me.
1:06:41
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:06:42
Speaker 1: I believe— here' s what my genuine thought on Ilhan Omar is,
1:06:46
Speaker 1: that the federal government— and or Donald Trump himself feel
1:06:51
Speaker 1: as if we cannot figure out a way how to
1:06:54
Speaker 1: prove that she wrote the feeding our future bill in
1:06:59
Speaker 1: a way where she could then go back and help
1:07:01
Speaker 1: the Somali community rip us off. But we know she
1:07:05
Speaker 1: did it. That's how they feel. So now we're just
1:07:07
Speaker 1: going to, it's like getting Al Capone on the tax evasion.
1:07:10
Speaker 1: We're just, we're going to find anything on you. And
1:07:13
Speaker 1: because you are a menace to America and, And if
1:07:16
Speaker 1: you're going after your political opponents, how far down the
1:07:19
Speaker 1: line do you have to get before you get to
1:07:21
Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar? Exactly. I mean, she has no effect on
1:07:23
Speaker 1: the presidency, but that's neither here nor there. That's what
1:07:26
Speaker 1: the narrative is.
1:07:27
Speaker 3: There is a second investigation underway. We got that confirmed yesterday, too.
1:07:31
Speaker 3: They're still trying to figure out how she became a
1:07:33
Speaker 3: $ 30 million person, and then suddenly it was, what, $ 160, 000?
1:07:35
Speaker 2: It just reverted back.
1:07:35
Speaker 1: Sure.
1:07:44
Speaker 2: And they're claiming paperwork error.
1:07:46
Speaker 1: Again, same with the birth certificate. It's all just a
1:07:48
Speaker 1: big paperwork error. There's nothing malicious going on over here. Anyway,
1:07:52
Speaker 1: if you have thoughts on Ilhan Omar or whatever, let
1:07:55
Speaker 1: us know on the Talkback feature. I think we're going
1:07:56
Speaker 1: to play some more of our Darlene Graham interview coming up.
1:07:59
Speaker 1: After the bottom of the hour, thanks for starting your
1:08:01
Speaker 1: day with South Carolina's morning news.
1:08:03
Speaker 4: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
1:08:07
Speaker 4: morning news.
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Speaker 1: 8.33 with Kelly Nash and Christopher Thompson. Christopher will be
1:08:11
Speaker 1: off tomorrow and Friday. But in the meantime, we were
1:08:16
Speaker 1: joined by Darlene Graham on the phone. This was a
1:08:20
Speaker 1: little bit of our conversation. Trying to figure out, can
1:08:24
Speaker 1: you take that three decades off? of being a civil servant,
1:08:28
Speaker 1: does that translate at all to being a senator?
1:08:30
Speaker 7: You know, I do think that that's transferable skill sets.
1:08:35
Speaker 7: It's still serving the people of South Carolina just in
1:08:38
Speaker 7: a different capacity. I work for state government. It's going
1:08:42
Speaker 7: to be at a federal level now. You know, it's
1:08:45
Speaker 7: the same thing. It's caring about the people of South Carolina.
1:08:48
Speaker 7: It's loving this state. It's wanting to work hard for
1:08:51
Speaker 7: the people. You know, I've had strategic planning skills, leadership skills,
1:08:57
Speaker 7: problem-solving skills. I have the ability to build relationships. I
1:09:01
Speaker 7: think that's one of the most important skill sets. When
1:09:04
Speaker 7: you go to the Senate, you know, you can't get
1:09:07
Speaker 7: anything done by yourself. You have to form relationships with
1:09:10
Speaker 7: your Senate colleagues to get stuff done. Sometimes that means
1:09:14
Speaker 7: reaching across the aisle even to get things done. You know,
1:09:17
Speaker 7: one thing I'll never do is compromise my conservative values,
1:09:21
Speaker 7: but it takes other people to come together to get
1:09:24
Speaker 7: things accomplished.
1:09:25
Speaker 1: Talking with Darlene Graham, and you're absolutely right about building coalitions,
1:09:29
Speaker 1: and that's difficult to do sometimes, especially if you've got
1:09:32
Speaker 1: to work across the aisle. Recently, we had Annie Andrews
1:09:35
Speaker 1: on the show, and she said, I was only the
1:09:38
Speaker 1: second person ever to ask her this question. I was
1:09:41
Speaker 1: upset that I wasn't the first, but maybe I'll be
1:09:43
Speaker 1: the first one to ask you. Do you have a
1:09:46
Speaker 1: favorite Supreme Court justice, or do you have a least
1:09:50
Speaker 1: favorite Supreme Court justice? And if so, why?
1:09:52
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm kind of tied between two, Brett Kavanaugh and
1:09:56
Speaker 7: Clarence Thomas. And the reason being, obviously, I think they're
1:10:00
Speaker 7: both good judges, conservative, but They went through hell to
1:10:05
Speaker 7: get on there, to get confirmed. So I just appreciate
1:10:10
Speaker 7: everything they had to go through, and they stuck in
1:10:13
Speaker 7: there with it. And I think they're doing a fine
1:10:15
Speaker 7: job serving.
1:10:17
Speaker 1: So those are the kinds of judges that you would
1:10:19
Speaker 1: look for more in the line of a Brett Kavanaugh
1:10:21
Speaker 1: or a Clarence Thomas? Because, again, that would be a
1:10:23
Speaker 1: big part of your job, confirming that. I'm assuming we're
1:10:25
Speaker 1: going to have multiple judges. Supreme Court justice changes if
1:10:30
Speaker 1: you are elected for six years.
1:10:32
Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely. And, you know, that's one of my concerns
1:10:35
Speaker 7: about Amy Andrews is, you know, it's my understanding she
1:10:38
Speaker 7: said that she wants to. go from 9 to 13 to,
1:10:43
Speaker 7: and we know why, to pack it with liberals instead
1:10:45
Speaker 7: of conservatives.
1:10:47
Speaker 1: Yes, she used the phrase, she wanted us to pack
1:10:50
Speaker 1: the court to unpack the court. That was the phrase
1:10:52
Speaker 1: she used on our show. So when you think about
1:10:55
Speaker 1: South Carolina, obviously we think a lot about military bases here,
1:10:59
Speaker 1: and your brother was honored with the naming down in Charleston,
1:11:03
Speaker 1: and rightfully so. There has been talk where there should
1:11:06
Speaker 1: be cuts to the military in some capacity. What do
1:11:09
Speaker 1: you think about that? Do you think that there's enough,
1:11:12
Speaker 1: we'll say, extra spending inside the military, or do you
1:11:14
Speaker 1: think that it would actually affect South Carolinians if we
1:11:17
Speaker 1: were to cut a military budget?
1:11:18
Speaker 7: I want to keep South Carolina safe. I want to
1:11:21
Speaker 7: keep this country safe. Those are some of my primary concerns.
1:11:25
Speaker 7: We have seven military bases here in South Carolina to
1:11:28
Speaker 7: help defend our country, and they're very important to South
1:11:32
Speaker 7: Carolina's economy. So I want to fully support and fund
1:11:36
Speaker 7: the military. This time, the Senate Democrats this year, they
1:11:40
Speaker 7: filibustered the National Defense Authorization Act, the first time that's
1:11:45
Speaker 7: been done in years. So that tells you right there
1:11:48
Speaker 7: that Amy Andrews is going to join them. She's not
1:11:50
Speaker 7: going to fund and support our military. It's so important
1:11:54
Speaker 7: to defend our state and our country. I believe in
1:11:57
Speaker 7: peace through strength. The stronger our military, the stronger our defense,
1:12:02
Speaker 7: the safer we are as a country, the less likely
1:12:05
Speaker 7: our enemies are to attack us.
1:12:07
Speaker 1: All right, Darlene Graham. Now, we've got about a 15,
1:12:10
Speaker 1: 16-minute interview with her. If you want to hear all
1:12:12
Speaker 1: of it, it's on the National Briefing podcast, and you
1:12:15
Speaker 1: spell that N-A-S-H-I-O-N-A-L. National Briefing Podcast exclusively on the iHeartRadio app.
1:12:21
Speaker 1: I'm getting some social media messages about Darlene, and we're
1:12:25
Speaker 1: taking your talkbacks as well. We'll get Christopher and I's
1:12:27
Speaker 1: responses to this and more when we come back in
1:12:30
Speaker 1: a moment.
1:12:30
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1:12:42
Speaker 1: All right. We just had part of our interview with
1:12:44
Speaker 1: Darlene Graham on the air. The social media people, they
1:12:48
Speaker 1: are vicious. Some of them are very vicious people on
1:12:51
Speaker 1: social media, Christopher. You are an idiot, Kelly Nash, says Matt.
1:12:58
Speaker 1: Why would you actually ask her anything about Supreme Court justices?
1:13:03
Speaker 1: This is like asking which five-star football recruit you'd like.
1:13:07
Speaker 1: You're a moron.
1:13:08
Speaker 7: Okay.
1:13:09
Speaker 5: What?
1:13:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's again. Oh, I'm sorry. That's hard and
1:13:12
Speaker 1: see you. I don't know what hard and see you means,
1:13:14
Speaker 1: but we've also got if you actually care about freedom
1:13:20
Speaker 1: right in Ralph. I've got that's from Jeff. I got
1:13:25
Speaker 1: Janice who says South Carolina citizens deserve a qualified conservative
1:13:30
Speaker 1: Republican choice right in Ralph. Keep SC red. I've got
1:13:34
Speaker 1: for some reason they've now tagged me into a right
1:13:37
Speaker 1: in Ralph X account. And I can't figure I think
1:13:43
Speaker 1: the right in Ralph account actually just hated Lindsey Graham.
1:13:48
Speaker 1: There seems to be more about Lindsey Graham than there
1:13:50
Speaker 1: is about Darlene Graham. So they they they they were
1:13:54
Speaker 1: upset that I guess that Lindsey had already won the primary.
1:13:58
Speaker 1: And this was their opportunity to redo it.
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Speaker 3: But go back to the first one again. Why would
1:14:03
Speaker 3: you not ask a sitting or running for U.S. senator
1:14:07
Speaker 3: about a Supreme Court justice?
1:14:10
Speaker 1: Well, and again, I wouldn't think that it was like
1:14:12
Speaker 1: asking about a five star football player. I would think
1:14:14
Speaker 1: it's more like trying to what kind of a coach
1:14:15
Speaker 1: are you looking for? That would be more in line
1:14:18
Speaker 1: if you're trying to use a sports analogy, which don't know.
1:14:20
Speaker 1: They don't always translate. But You know, I'm just giving
1:14:22
Speaker 1: you what they're telling me. Okay. The people are rough
1:14:25
Speaker 1: out here. Apparently. But we've had some talkbacks about it
1:14:28
Speaker 1: as well. And Christopher, you initially, when you heard that conversation,
1:14:32
Speaker 1: we played that in the six o'clock hour.
1:14:34
Speaker 5: Right.
1:14:34
Speaker 1: You said she sounded pretty good to you.
1:14:37
Speaker 3: I was, you know, I guess we set the bar
1:14:39
Speaker 3: pretty low for her, believe it or not. And she
1:14:41
Speaker 3: was not as good on the debate stage the other night.
1:14:44
Speaker 3: She hasn't been as good on debate stages, period.
1:14:47
Speaker 2: But, you know, whether.
1:14:49
Speaker 3: she was being fed answers or what she, I mean,
1:14:52
Speaker 3: she appeared very competent and she answered every one of
1:14:55
Speaker 3: your questions. I didn't always agree with her, but she
1:14:58
Speaker 3: sounded like she knew what she was talking about.
1:15:00
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:15:01
Speaker 1: And for the right in Ralph people, I mean, there,
1:15:03
Speaker 1: there's a press release here. The right in Ralph campaign
1:15:05
Speaker 1: has now 5,000 people. Okay. I mean, thankfully that's not
1:15:10
Speaker 1: as many as I thought it would be. I would
1:15:13
Speaker 1: just remind you that Ralph has lost two in a
1:15:16
Speaker 1: row statewide elections and he has no chance of winning.
1:15:22
Speaker 1: If you are somebody who wants a Republican, your only
1:15:27
Speaker 1: choice is Darlene Graham at this point. If you're just
1:15:31
Speaker 1: looking for chaos, then go ahead and write him in
1:15:34
Speaker 1: and then see if you can give it to Annie.
1:15:35
Speaker 1: Because that's all that would do, is you could possibly
1:15:38
Speaker 1: give it to Annie Andrews and let chaos reign and
1:15:40
Speaker 1: then South Carolina's in play for The next 20 years
1:15:44
Speaker 1: when it comes to the Democrats, because they're going to
1:15:46
Speaker 1: be throwing cash after cash. You know, if you if
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Speaker 1: they can get a little you just need a little
1:15:51
Speaker 1: little edge to get my fingers on it. Just get
1:15:53
Speaker 1: me into that state. It's kind of like Texas. Let
1:15:55
Speaker 1: me in. Just let me in. And then once they
1:15:57
Speaker 1: get in, oof, then you got problems.
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Speaker 3: So then we'll get a one star Supreme Court justice.
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Speaker 3: As opposed to a five star.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Like the one that we got just right now.
1:16:07
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The one that we got whose opinion pieces were literally
1:16:10
Speaker 1: laughed at when she was writing dissents. The other Supreme
1:16:13
Speaker 1: Court justices are laughing at Katanya Jackson Brown. Now, do
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Speaker 1: we know that? No. But that's been the reporting inside
1:16:20
Speaker 1: from the SCOTUS folks is that they actually laugh at
1:16:23
Speaker 1: her and her opinions. Sad, but true. All right, we'll
1:16:28
Speaker 1: take a break, be back with our final segment of
1:16:30
Speaker 1: the morning. And if you've got some thoughts on any
1:16:32
Speaker 1: of the things we're talking about, love to hear your
1:16:34
Speaker 1: thoughts on the Talkback feature. It's 846.
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Speaker 8: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
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Speaker 1: The South Carolina Commission on Higher Education says improving credit mobility...
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Speaker 1: will expand opportunities for students, especially those who are first
1:16:52
Speaker 1: in their family to attend college. Credit mobility, they're not
1:16:55
Speaker 1: talking about getting credit to get more loans. They're talking
1:16:59
Speaker 1: about the credits that you earn at college. And one
1:17:02
Speaker 1: way to try to lower the cost is to go
1:17:03
Speaker 1: to like a two-year school, which is probably half the
1:17:07
Speaker 1: price of going to the University of South Carolina or
1:17:10
Speaker 1: something like that. Get your first two years there and
1:17:12
Speaker 1: then transfer all those credits into a big four-year university
1:17:16
Speaker 1: where then you can pay the full boat I was
1:17:21
Speaker 1: shocked to see nationwide student loan debt now has climbed
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Speaker 1: to over $ 1. 7 trillion. We are just a disaster when
1:17:32
Speaker 1: it comes to student loan debt. And again, this is
1:17:34
Speaker 1: caused by the federal government. The federal government in the
1:17:38
Speaker 1: 90s began making sure that everybody who wanted to go
1:17:41
Speaker 1: to college could get a loan, which was a horrific idea.
1:17:44
Speaker 1: And I think we're reaping what we've sown now. we've
1:17:48
Speaker 1: got not only the 1.7 trillion, you've got, just look
1:17:51
Speaker 1: at the personal stories of destruction where people who should
1:17:54
Speaker 1: have never gone to college, they never, they should have,
1:17:56
Speaker 1: they weren't qualified to go to college, but they spent
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Speaker 1: tens of thousands of dollars trying to go to college
1:18:02
Speaker 1: only to come out, drop out, whatever. And then, but
1:18:06
Speaker 1: they still got, they still owe $ 35, 000 or whatever. And
1:18:10
Speaker 1: then they're financing it. I was talking to one person
1:18:13
Speaker 1: the other day, Christopher, whose student loan is costing her,
1:18:18
Speaker 1: Something like $ 1, 200 a month or something. I'm like, that
1:18:23
Speaker 1: was like my first mortgage.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: That's still my mortgage. I don't know how you would
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Speaker 3: afford that as a young person starting out.
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Speaker 1: She's not. She's not doing well. She's not doing well
1:18:35
Speaker 1: with that.
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Speaker 2: And the ones who can't default and who winds up
1:18:38
Speaker 2: paying for it then. taxpayers.
1:18:41
Speaker 1: Ultimately, it's us.
1:18:42
Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: And that's now, by the way, Christopher will be off
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Speaker 1: tomorrow and Friday. So I'm not going to call him again. host,
1:18:50
Speaker 1: but I am. I just got a text message a
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Speaker 1: few moments ago from Nicholas Kent. He is the 15th
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Speaker 1: undersecretary of education, and he'll be in South Carolina today. Oh,
1:19:01
Speaker 1: and he's touring and he's going to a bunch of places.
1:19:03
Speaker 1: And so we're going to have him. I'm going to
1:19:04
Speaker 1: interview him later on today. And then we'll make him
1:19:09
Speaker 1: kind of like a guest host for tomorrow.
1:19:10
Speaker 2: Okay. Replacing me with a bigger name.
1:19:13
Speaker 1: Hey, Nicholas, can you do sports? Nicholas, how are you
1:19:16
Speaker 1: with the weather? Let us know. Come on. Come on, pal.
1:19:18
Speaker 1: Help us out. So we'll have that to look forward
1:19:21
Speaker 1: to tomorrow. And, of course, your talkbacks are always so important.
1:19:24
Speaker 1: We love having you engage with the show whenever possible.
1:19:27
Speaker 1: Or you can use social media. I do. As you see,
1:19:30
Speaker 1: I'll even read the negative ones where people call me
1:19:32
Speaker 1: a moron or whatever.
1:19:33
Speaker 2: You want to squeeze one last one in?
1:19:34
Speaker 1: Sure, go ahead. Talkback.
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Speaker 5: When are the people going to wake up and see
1:19:40
Speaker 5: that what our choice is, is do we stay free
1:19:45
Speaker 5: or do.
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Speaker 7: We go under communist or Muslim rule?
1:19:49
Speaker 3: You've got to look at the big picture, people.
1:19:53
Speaker 10: A lot of people like chocolate.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for that. I wish I knew her name.
1:20:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
1:20:01
Speaker 1: Please leave your name next time. I would love to
1:20:04
Speaker 1: salute you. And again, thanks for engaging with South Carolina's
1:20:07
Speaker 1: Morning News. Enjoy your days off, Christopher.
1:20:09
Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you. Looking forward to being back with
1:20:11
Speaker 2: you on Monday.
1:20:11
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you then.