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She Had 7 Autoimmune Diseases? · Life TV now

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Speaker 1: Imagine being someone who's dedicated your entire life to researching
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Speaker 1: and understanding autoimmune disease, its modality, who it's affecting, and
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Speaker 1: what you think is behind why it develops in the
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Speaker 1: first place, only to wake up one day and realize
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Speaker 1: that you yourself are now developing autoimmune disease. One diagnosis
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Speaker 1: suddenly becomes two, two becomes seven. The fatigue is crushing,
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Speaker 1: the pain is constant, and the future that you were
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Speaker 1: building begins to disappear. Today's guest experienced all of this
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Speaker 1: and more, and she's here to talk to us about
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Speaker 1: how God showed her how to reverse all of it.
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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to Life TV Now, where
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Speaker 1: we unpath all matters of truth, faith and freedom. I'm
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Speaker 1: Joe artists Horn. Today you are in for a serious
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Speaker 1: treat as we're going to be unpacking so much of
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Speaker 1: what many of you may have experienced in the past
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Speaker 1: or are currently dealing with, or perhaps you know a
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Speaker 1: loved one that is absolutely encumbered by these nasty words
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Speaker 1: put together called autoimmune disease, and we're going to be
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Speaker 1: taking a look at what you can do, beginning right now,
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Speaker 1: to change what doctors have spoken over you. First, let
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Speaker 1: me introduce who's here. She's an integrative nutrition health coach
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Speaker 1: with a Master of Science and health education. Please welcome
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Speaker 1: my co host, Jamie Woodle, and she's a medical scientist
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Speaker 1: with a master's in immunotoxicology and her PhD fellowship and
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Speaker 1: autoimmune disease. Please welcome Dorinda Smith.
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Speaker 2: Durrinda. Before we dive.
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Speaker 1: Into things, I just want to say at the one
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Speaker 1: that I met you about five years ago, I was
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Speaker 1: trying to do the math last night and I thought, no,
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Speaker 1: it's got to be two years and I'm doing the calculation. No,
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Speaker 1: this has been almost five years now, and I can
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Speaker 1: tell you that Derinda is the real deal. She has
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Speaker 1: been through it as we're going to unpack today and
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Speaker 1: next week. But you have helped countless individuals through your
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Speaker 1: now coaching business overcome what doctors have spoken over them.
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Speaker 1: A lot of times they'll tell people in allopathic medicine,
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Speaker 1: these dilemmas that you're dealing with are genetic or we
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Speaker 1: don't really know the origins are the whys. But here's
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Speaker 1: a pharmaceutical option that may help mitigate some of the symptoms.
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Speaker 1: And you know how it goes with medications usually one
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Speaker 1: becomes three, becomes seven, and the more you take you're
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Speaker 1: on this huge cocktail of stuff. And yet the root
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Speaker 1: causes are never addressed. And so you see the quality
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Speaker 1: of life every year is just diminishing, its declining, it continues.
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Speaker 1: Let's back up, because today you're this bright, one of
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Speaker 1: the smartest people I know in immunotoxicology. With all of
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Speaker 1: your background and science, you've been able to quantify and
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Speaker 1: help people really get to the bottom of what's going
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Speaker 1: on with them. Before that we dive into that, though,
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Speaker 1: explain because at one time you were that person. One
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Speaker 1: diagnosis became several, and your life became this nightmare that
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Speaker 1: you never ever thought in your youth would come to pass.
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Speaker 1: And that is how so many people get there. They say, Man,
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Speaker 1: I thought when I was eight and the rest of
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Speaker 1: my life was ahead of me, I had these bright plans.
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Speaker 1: I got into my teens and things began to shift
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Speaker 1: and one day, you know, mid twenties, thirties, forties, fifties,
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Speaker 1: this isn't what I signed up for. God, I thought
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Speaker 1: some of us, even as Christians, God, I thought you
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Speaker 1: had something different for me.
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Speaker 2: How do I serve you? If I'm feeling this way.
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Speaker 1: That is such a common situation for so many right now,
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Speaker 1: and with disease literally on the rise on every level,
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Speaker 1: this is happening constantly. I guarantee you right now, people
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Speaker 1: watching this like, okay, Joe, stop talking and let the
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Speaker 1: you know, toxicologists take over, because you're speaking to my
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Speaker 1: heart right now, this is me.
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Speaker 2: Let's get in. You were very sick.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh my goodness. Yeah here I am. I'm
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Speaker 3: like this type a control freak, arrogant scientists who thinks
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Speaker 3: that she can do it all. And yeah, it literally
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Speaker 3: got the better of me. And looking back, I can
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Speaker 3: see that I really did start getting sick when I
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Speaker 3: was about twelve years old. But of course I'm sixty
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Speaker 3: three now, and that was a while ago, and so
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Speaker 3: you know, we didn't even know what we know now, right,
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Speaker 3: And so I was just told, well, okay, you have
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Speaker 3: constant migraines. Well, uh, your mom has migraines, your grandma
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Speaker 3: had migraines, so obviously you're going to have them too.
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Speaker 3: And that's just the way it is. There really isn't
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Speaker 3: anything that you can do about it. Just here's some
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Speaker 3: more medication, right, And that kept happening throughout my teenage
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Speaker 3: years where I was having constant bronchitis. I missed several
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Speaker 3: months of high school and had to repeat things because
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Speaker 3: I had constant bronchitis. What was going on there, Well,
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Speaker 3: nobody really knows. Long story short. By the time I
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Speaker 3: was doing my masters and my PhD work, I was
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Speaker 3: really starting to fall apart.
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Speaker 1: And just for clarity, what are you researching? Because you're
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Speaker 1: looking into, right, autoimmunity and its modality and its function
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Speaker 1: and all of that exactly, So this is happening to
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Speaker 1: you right under your own nose.
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Speaker 3: And no one saw that I was developing autoimmune disease,
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Speaker 3: because that's really about the way it is. It looks like, well,
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Speaker 3: you've got foot problems, and then you've got gut problems,
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Speaker 3: and then you've got head problems, and then you've got
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Speaker 3: hormonal problems, and you've got female problems, and you've got
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Speaker 3: and everybody looks at them individually, and no one really
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Speaker 3: puts them together and says, wow, what is how.
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 1: And I will say that in terms of a culture,
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Speaker 1: while disease is on the rise, one of the side
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Speaker 1: effects of that rise is people are in droves abandoning
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Speaker 1: traditional echo chamber allopathic approach to practicing medicine pharmachia. You're
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Speaker 1: seeing a lot more farmers markets and people growing food
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Speaker 1: and talking about things like parasite detox, a lot detalk,
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Speaker 1: so you are seeing some good come. I'm thinking about
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Speaker 1: my childhood and I'm thinking about, you know, the vaccine
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Speaker 1: schedule that has completely changed, by the way, from just
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Speaker 1: when I was a kid, just ten years ago. The
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Speaker 1: number of vaccines that people are wanting to push forth.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at again the rise and people wanting to
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Speaker 1: pursue natural solutions for their health dilemmas. But even just
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Speaker 1: when I was a kid, you know, we're talking about
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Speaker 1: the old food pyramid. How many of you guys were
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Speaker 1: told that you eat things with oats and sugar as
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Speaker 1: a type two diabetic and that this is heart healthy.
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Speaker 1: This is how you're supposed to eat, right, make sure
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Speaker 1: you put a banana in it as well for extra
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Speaker 1: you know, glucose release throughout the day so that you
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Speaker 1: can really spike that insulin like everything that we grew
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Speaker 1: up believing that's wrong about cereals, having vitamins and sweet
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Speaker 1: people that love the Lord. By the way, but my
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Speaker 1: pediatrician as a kid told my mother in front of me.
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Speaker 1: Cereal is mostly good. They're going to get most of
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Speaker 1: their vitamins from cereal. So you see this culture, it's
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Speaker 1: the perfect environment for now a lot of the boomers
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Speaker 1: and people my age. Why I too, you know, decades
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Speaker 1: of autoimmunity and really losing my life one year at
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Speaker 1: a time. So right, you're in that culture of echo
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Speaker 1: chamber that's telling you to eat from the four food groups.
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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with bread. Sugar's okay as long as
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Speaker 1: it's caine like you know, kool aid on the side
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Speaker 1: of your school lunch. It's in every thermos. It's just
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Speaker 1: a sugar mill for disease. Am I wrong?
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Speaker 3: No? And it's actually worse than that because when you're
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Speaker 3: being trained in school as a scientist in autoimmune disease,
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Speaker 3: we are taught absolutely zero about nutrition, zero, not one class,
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Speaker 3: not one, nothing about nutri genomics that we know today.
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Speaker 3: We know that food is biochemical messengers that are getting
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Speaker 3: through your cell and they need to get through your
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Speaker 3: cell to get into the nucleus and then to change
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Speaker 3: the way your genes express about every thirty seconds. But
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Speaker 3: we're not taught any of that in school. Doctors are
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Speaker 3: not taught this. This is why they're not practicing at
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Speaker 3: the root cause level. They are not taught it. They're
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Speaker 3: taught a pharmaceutical. You know, let's name it, then let's
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Speaker 3: hit it with a pharmaceutical, and let's just manage it.
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Speaker 3: All the while that management is actually causing the cellular
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Speaker 3: deficiencies and the toxicities that's causing the problem in the
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Speaker 3: first place. Sanity, it really is. And thank God that,
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Speaker 3: you know, good practitioners are waking up because they're getting sick,
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Speaker 3: their families are getting sick, and they're looking for a
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Speaker 3: better way, and they're going back to you know, how
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Speaker 3: God designed our bodies to live in the first place.
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Speaker 1: What do you think led to the development of your
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Speaker 1: what ended up being seven Oh my god, autoimmune diagnoses.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I know that now I can look back
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Speaker 3: and I can see, but at the time it was
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Speaker 3: so scary and so very confusing, and I couldn't understand why. Okay,
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Speaker 3: I've learned everything there is to know at the top
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Speaker 3: level in the world basically about everything about autoimmune disease,
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Speaker 3: and yet there was nothing to help me except pharmaceuticals
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Speaker 3: didn't really help that much.
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Speaker 1: Okay, very quickly, would you say, because you're going to
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Speaker 1: have some people at home struggle with this, would you say, now,
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Speaker 1: looking back, just very quickly, as a cliff note, that
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Speaker 1: what you were learning was not at all beneficial then
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Speaker 1: in terms of autoimmunity, No, because they're not talking about dietc.
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Speaker 1: There was some things that you learned that did help absolutely, Okay, okay.
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Speaker 3: As an immunotoxicologist, I was taught the number one reason
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Speaker 3: why we have chronic illnesses of any kind, including autoimmune disease,
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Speaker 3: including heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimer's, everything, it boils down to
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Speaker 3: the toxins that we're exposed to.
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Speaker 2: You, that were one reason.
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Speaker 3: So I did learn that, and that did help later on, but.
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Speaker 1: The solutions become pharmaceutical management and not well, let's get
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Speaker 1: rid of them.
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Speaker 3: The toxins exactly exactly.
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Speaker 2: Which it is difficult to square. But go ahead, sorry, and.
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Speaker 3: I can look back and I can see that the
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Speaker 3: way my mom took care of us as kids, and
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Speaker 3: she didn't know she was. You know, we were back
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Speaker 3: in the seventies, sixties and seventies, that's when antibiotics were very,
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Speaker 3: very popular, and of course now we know that they
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Speaker 3: absolutely destroy your gut microbiome. But my mom through antibiotics
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Speaker 3: at us with every little sniffle. She didn't know, She
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Speaker 3: thought she was doing the right thing.
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Speaker 2: She didn't.
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Speaker 1: You know, we did the same thing with my oldest children,
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Speaker 1: back before I knew any different, while I was gaining
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Speaker 1: weight and basically dying. But how many years were you sick?
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Speaker 1: And then take us back to that watershed moment? Or
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Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't an instant, Maybe it was a series
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Speaker 1: of events that took place where you started putting together
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Speaker 1: that maybe there would be some hope for you, and
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Speaker 1: when you began to take steps to heal. Yeah, how
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Speaker 1: long were you sick?
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 3: I started having constant migraines, very severe migraines when I
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Speaker 3: was twelve years old, and debilitating migraines, the kind that
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Speaker 3: knock you down for a whole week and you can
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Speaker 3: do nothing but lay in.
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Speaker 2: A dark room. That just sounds like torment.
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Speaker 3: It was I honestly, this is not an exaggeration. If
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Speaker 3: I had a day without a headache, it was a
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Speaker 3: weird thing. I always had a low grade headache from
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Speaker 3: the time I was twelve years old on. And of course,
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Speaker 3: then what does the doctor say, the doctor says, well,
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Speaker 3: just take about eight hundred milligrams of ibrewprofen about three
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Speaker 3: times a day.
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Speaker 1: For people that don't know that they're watching this program,
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Speaker 1: that is a that is a liver ender and another and.
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Speaker 3: A gut and a kidney and a gut microbiome and
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Speaker 3: a hormone destroyer. Yeah, okay, so is it any wonder?
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Speaker 1: And you're twelve and I'm twelve, sure.
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Speaker 3: Twelve And with that severe gut dyspiosis, you know all
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Speaker 3: the damage that was done in the gut from the antibiotics.
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Speaker 3: What does that create? That creates hormonal issues as well.
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Speaker 3: So I won't get deep into this, but lots of
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Speaker 3: female issues, lots of hormonal and just mood issues and
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Speaker 3: panic and anxiety that whoa I had to struggle with
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Speaker 3: for about twenty years before the Lord taught me how
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Speaker 3: to take care of that.
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Speaker 2: So mid thirties ish.
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Speaker 3: Wow, and you know, my feet started having problems and
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Speaker 3: I started having you know, lots of weird, little embarrassing
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Speaker 3: issues in the gut, which I know that you know
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Speaker 3: about two that you have to hide and manage all
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Speaker 3: the time. All the while I'm this like very excited
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Speaker 3: to go get her. Oh I'm gonna be a doctor
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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna fix people, and I'm gonna help people,
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Speaker 3: and I'm just gonna go, go, go, go, go, go, go
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Speaker 3: go go.
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Speaker 4: It's pretty inspiring, though, because you're going through all this pain,
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Speaker 4: years and years from head to toe, random issues, and
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Speaker 4: yet here you are persevering and pursuing higher education. I'm
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Speaker 4: a little bit amazed because those things are hard just
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Speaker 4: for someone who feels well. So that's very inspiring. But
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Speaker 4: please continue.
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Speaker 3: That's just a god thing.
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Speaker 1: I guess.
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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just stubborn.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're definitely a fighter, and now you fight for
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Speaker 1: others as well. You care very much about the people
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Speaker 1: that you coach. And in a few minutes we're gonna
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Speaker 1: ask you how people can learn more about what you
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Speaker 1: offer if they want to go online and maybe sign
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Speaker 1: up for some of your teaching or to get some
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Speaker 1: help with you know, navigating a metal detox, etc. But
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Speaker 1: before we get there, you're now mid thirties. Is this
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Speaker 1: when you start to man, there's something out there, there's
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Speaker 1: something different. Was that somebody came to you and said, hey, Derinda,
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Speaker 1: Hey Dori, have you ever seen a naturopathic doctor? There
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Speaker 1: might be some like how did you get to Okay,
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Speaker 1: probably pharmaceuticals are worsening all of this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a different way.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that came way later, because you know, when you're
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Speaker 3: going through your training, you're very much brainwashed into the
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Speaker 3: pharmaceutical way.
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Speaker 2: Sure.
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Speaker 3: And I do remember at one point going to my advisor,
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Speaker 3: who was an amazing man of God, just adore him.
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Speaker 3: He didn't know any better either, but I do remember
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Speaker 3: bringing him a whole stack. You know, that was back
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Speaker 3: when you didn't have the Internet. If you were going
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Speaker 3: to study the science and do a meta analysis, you
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Speaker 3: literally had boxes of papers of scientific you know, analyzes
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Speaker 3: to have to go through. And I had stumbled across
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Speaker 3: that there's all these like natural and herbs and nutritional
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Speaker 3: things that people can do, and I'm like, what about this.
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Speaker 3: He's like, oh no, no, no, no, no, He's like, look,
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Speaker 3: these are studies from Japan and from Germany and from Israel.
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Speaker 3: We don't trust those. We trust the ones that come
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Speaker 3: from our governmental NIH only period, or the pharmaceutical studies period.
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Speaker 3: Don't go down that rabbit hole because it's wo woo,
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Speaker 3: oh my god, it's not real. And I had to
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Speaker 3: come back from that many many years, after about fourteen
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Speaker 3: years of severe disability and disease, I had to come
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Speaker 3: back to that and say, dang, that was a lie
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Speaker 3: from Satan, because that's God's medicine. M M.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. It's kind of ironic because now some of the
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Speaker 4: most ground breaking holistic scientific studies are coming out of
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Speaker 4: both Japan and Israel, yes.
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Speaker 3: And Germany and all around the world exactly, and even
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Speaker 3: studies here in the United States are now saying, hmm,
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Speaker 3: what about what about a lot of these herbs? And
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Speaker 3: you know, come to find out, guess what the pharmaceutical
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Speaker 3: companies do in order to make all their trillions and
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Speaker 3: trillions and trillions of dollars. They go to the herbs
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Speaker 3: in South America, they go to the herbs in Africa,
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Speaker 3: and they go to the herbs and these indigenous places
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Speaker 3: and they figure out, oh, they're using it for this,
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Speaker 3: Oh it actually does work. Okay, now let's formulate it
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Speaker 3: and synthesize it so that then now we can make
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Speaker 3: tons of money off of it. When it's something that's
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Speaker 3: growing naturally that God created, that gave to us in
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Speaker 3: the first place.
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Speaker 4: But they don't want you to buy it outside of
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Speaker 4: the way that they prepare.
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Speaker 3: It, and they're never gone to tell you that. Right, Okay,
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Speaker 3: that would go against their business model.
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Speaker 1: But there's two things I would offer that so that
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Speaker 1: people at home watching the show, well, then why doesn't work.
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Speaker 1: There's a couple of reasons. They change the compound. They
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Speaker 1: take what is native the way God created something, and
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Speaker 1: they change the compound. They literally go in and scientifically
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Speaker 1: alter its modality so that it will show some of
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Speaker 1: maybe the side effects or benefits of what you would
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Speaker 1: have gotten if you had taken the straight herb, so
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Speaker 1: that they can patent and then control it. It's all
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Speaker 1: about insurance companies. It's all about pharmaceutical companies strong arming
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Speaker 1: you into allowing them to pay enormous amounts of money
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Speaker 1: for something they owned the intellectual properties of. Because you
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Speaker 1: know how many of you have gone online to see
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Speaker 1: how cheap oregano is right m HM, or pine needle
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Speaker 1: tea or tinkstures, shachemic acid. A lot of these are
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Speaker 1: being synthesized and stolen from so that you can get
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Speaker 1: a flu shot. Or if you just took the native
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Speaker 1: medicine the way God handed it to you, it's like
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Speaker 1: nine hundred times more powerful without all the side effects.
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Speaker 1: The second part of that is when you change the compound,
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Speaker 1: the body receives it differently, and it has long term
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Speaker 1: metabolic differences in how your body breaks it down and
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Speaker 1: uses it versus the way that God designed your body
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Speaker 1: to receive it. Does that all make sense if you're wondering, like, well,
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Speaker 1: then why doesn't it work? And what in the world
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Speaker 1: is the deal? That's the deal? In a collapse nutshell.
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Speaker 1: With just a few minutes left, we're already racing through this.
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Speaker 1: People are going to want to know, and we're going
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Speaker 1: to have to have Derinda back because we are not
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Speaker 1: going to get this all on one shell. Don't fret
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Speaker 1: if we don't answer all of your questions today. Derinda
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Speaker 1: will be back with us next week to continue this,
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Speaker 1: and I promise we're going to get into a lot
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Speaker 1: of the steps that she finally discovered in reversing a
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Speaker 1: lot of these autoimmune conditions.
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Speaker 4: Well, I know, Joe said, we're almost out of time,
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Speaker 4: but I have to ask, all this education that you've had,
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Speaker 4: was there anything I know you talked about. You learned
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Speaker 4: about how autoimmune is often triggered by toxins, But did
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Speaker 4: they in all of that training, give you any specific
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Speaker 4: tool to help you feel better.
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Speaker 3: No, And this is the saddest thing that no. I
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Speaker 3: was basically brainwashed into believing that autoimmune disease is idiopathic,
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Speaker 3: meaning that we don't know all the real reasons why
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Speaker 3: people get it. We know that it's partially genetic. We
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Speaker 3: know that it's partially toxins. Some of those toxins may
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Speaker 3: come from chronic infections, but other than that, we really
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Speaker 3: don't know. And so therefore, what we do know is
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Speaker 3: that once you get diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, too bad,
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Speaker 3: so sad, you're broken. You are now on the road
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Speaker 3: of progression. And the only thing that we can do
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Speaker 3: is help to lengthen the progression so that you can
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Speaker 3: have a better quality of life with big pharma. But
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Speaker 3: you will progress, there is no way around that.
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Speaker 2: That's what I was taught.
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Speaker 3: You will progress. It is incurable. You're broken, so sad,
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Speaker 3: too bad.
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Speaker 4: And that's exactly what happened to you.
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Speaker 3: And I believed it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I believed it. So tell us about that big
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Speaker 4: moment here you are suffering and you have seven autoimmune
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Speaker 4: diseases with no hope from allopathic medicine.
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Speaker 2: Well, expecting to get worse.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just knowing that I was going to get worse. Yeah. Right.
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Speaker 1: And you're a scientist, so a lot of us might
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Speaker 1: draw some hope in a doctor, but you're like, I
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Speaker 1: already know the things that they're learning.
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Speaker 2: This is it for me?
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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I knew more than they knew.
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Speaker 2: When did the light bulb come on? Though? Or was
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Speaker 2: it not a moment? It was a series of things.
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Speaker 3: No, it was a moment. Okay, it was a moment.
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Speaker 3: They told me I would have about ten years if
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Speaker 3: I'm lucky. At that time, I had progressed to seven
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Speaker 3: on a immune diseases, severe fibromyalgia. I was very, very
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Speaker 3: very ill. I could barely get up off the couch
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Speaker 3: to do the dishes most of the time and stand
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Speaker 3: there for longer than five minutes before having to go
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Speaker 3: lay back down. I could go to church if I
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Speaker 3: got enough medication in me, and I was on a
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Speaker 3: cocktail of anywhere between twelve and twenty medications per day,
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Speaker 3: depending on the day. Don't even get me started on
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Speaker 3: what that does in the cells. Okay, very bad, just
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Speaker 3: making you worse as time goes on. And I just
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Speaker 3: believed it. Hook line and sinker, and my prayer was
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Speaker 3: that I would be able to live long enough to
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Speaker 3: take care of my granddaughter because I was raising her
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Speaker 3: by myself, because my daughter was also very sick with
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Speaker 3: autoimmune complications that we didn't even realize. And what happened
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Speaker 3: is I was at about year fourteen of being ill,
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Speaker 3: thinking that, well, I've at least gotten this extra time
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Speaker 3: out of it. But I was very very ill, and
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Speaker 3: I'd go on into the worst flare that I had
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Speaker 3: ever been in in my life. And I was literally
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Speaker 3: laying in bed thinking, Okay, well, this is what it
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Speaker 3: feels like to die of an autoimmune disease. This is it,
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Speaker 3: this must be it. And of course I was scared,
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Speaker 3: really scared. I was laying there one day and thinking
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Speaker 3: all this, and I had to go to the bathroom.
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Speaker 3: And when you're that sick, and most people wouldn't get
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Speaker 3: this unless you've been there, but when you're that sick,
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Speaker 3: just the thought of getting up out of the bed
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Speaker 3: to walk to the bathroom down the hallway, you know, right,
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Speaker 3: it feels like, how am I going to do this?
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Speaker 3: And I was home by myself, and I finally did
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Speaker 3: get up. I made it to the bathroom, I was
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Speaker 3: coming back from the bathroom and I collapsed on the
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Speaker 3: floor of my bedroom. And that's when the Lord showed
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Speaker 3: me what he needed me to see, that there was
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Speaker 3: a better way and I could heal.
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Speaker 1: What was that moment? Like, is he speaking to you audibly?
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Speaker 1: Is this a day dream that you have? What do
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Speaker 1: you mean when you say he began to speak to you? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: or he showed you? What do you mean by that?
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Speaker 3: Well, what happened is I collapsed and I was laying
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Speaker 3: on the floor and it's this you know, you can imagine,
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Speaker 3: it's this very like just dramatic. I'm like crying out
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Speaker 3: to the Lord and you know, and I'm just saying
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Speaker 3: to him, Lord, and I'm kind of mad, Why did
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Speaker 3: you give me all this education? Isn't there something that
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Speaker 3: I can do? I'm a scientist. For crying out loud,
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Speaker 3: Why can't you just if there's anything that I have missed,
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Speaker 3: just show me, Just show me. He did, he did.
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Speaker 3: I laid there for a little while longer, and then
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Speaker 3: I got back up into bed, and there on the
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Speaker 3: TV screen above my bed was this thing that I
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Speaker 3: thought was pathetic. I thought it was stupid, and it
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Speaker 3: said scleroderma, which was my biggest, most worst diagnosis that
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Speaker 3: they had given me. It said scleroderma and functional medicine.
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Speaker 3: And the first thing that I did, being an arrogant scientist,
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Speaker 3: is I looked at that and I went yeah, right click,
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Speaker 3: hmm off, and the Holy Spirit was.
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Speaker 1: Just just wouldn't let it go go back?
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Speaker 3: Watch that. No, I didn't hear it audibly, but I
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Speaker 3: heard it.
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Speaker 2: It's like an impression of it.
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Speaker 3: It was it was go back, you can feel it back,
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Speaker 3: go back, go back, go back. And it did take me,
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Speaker 3: because I'm so stubborn. It did take me about an
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Speaker 3: hour to go back.
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Speaker 2: Any what you watched the video, I did.
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Speaker 3: And it was everything that that just an arrogant scientist
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Speaker 3: needed to see in order to prove to me that
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Speaker 3: there was a better way. There was more that I
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Speaker 3: wasn't taught in school, and I had been led in
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Speaker 3: this basically, this lie of lack of knowledge for fourteen years,
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Speaker 3: and there really was a better way.
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Speaker 1: How many of you think we just can't end it here,
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Speaker 1: We have to have Duranda next week. These programs always
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Speaker 1: go way too But ladies and gentlemen, sincerely, from the
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Speaker 1: bottom of my heart. We will have Dirinda back next week.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here and I'm exploding with so many
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Speaker 1: follow up comments that I want. Your journey is so
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Speaker 1: in sync with what resonated with my journey because it
27:14
Speaker 1: was very similar in that here was my wife telling me, Joe, how.
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Speaker 2: About a herbal tea? What about a green tea?
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Speaker 1: I read about an essential oil and the whole time
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Speaker 1: fifteen years now, Babe, we got the smartest minds on
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Speaker 1: earth looking at me. You can't fix this. It's genetics.
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Speaker 1: Until one day I had my moment very similar to that.
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Speaker 1: We don't have time today, but we will continue this
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Speaker 1: next week, ladies and gentlemen. Unfortunately we're all out of time.
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Speaker 1: Everybody here in studio, Derinda, Jamie, thank you for being
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Speaker 1: here again with us this week. Keep your eyes on
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Speaker 1: the prize, which is Jesus Christ. We will be back
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Speaker 1: with Derinda next week.
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