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Episode 71 | Season 3 | Surrender Moon Cycle | Full Moon · Living the Moon Cycles

• 0:06
  SPEAKER_00: Hello, I'm Wendy Wright, and welcome to Living the Moon Cycle.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_00: Each episode is a conversation with me and my highly intuitive good friend Betty, where we share our extraordinary experiences of intuition.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_00: By living an organic way of being within the sacred geometry of cyclical time, we experience the full capacity of our consciousness.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: Our conversation and the information you hear in this podcast is streamed from a unified collective intelligence known as the 11th Alliance.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: I invite you to explore and enjoy a new knowing of yourself within Living the Moon Cycle.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_00: Live it and be it.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: Hello.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to season three of Living the Moon Cycles.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's the surrender moon cycle of 2026.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_00: Full moon.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: Hello, Betty.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_02: Hello, Wendy.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my goodness.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_02: Last few days.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: Where do we start?
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_02: We start that we started two days ago and we didn't get we didn't get it accomplished.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_02: So now we're back.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so we had we had a situational exercise a couple days ago.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Betty has been traveling, and you know, I'm traveling, and so we had a little bit of predetermination.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um let me stop you right there.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_02: At least on my part, it wasn't a little bit.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: There was a lot of predetermination.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there's a real reason why we we record these podcasts on um these episodes on the new and full moon, because these days in in a moon week truly have such significance.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: And so when we we thought, okay, to make it easier, we're gonna record this podcast a couple days ago, which would have been Monday, and then Betty can do her traveling and Wendy can get where she needs to go and everything.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: Well, if we recorded it on that Monday, we missed two days of growth, no change or what it's change.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_02: No, you're right, it is change.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's the end of change before the full moon.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_00: And we're like, no big deal.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's okay.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_02: We'll just start it early, and that way you and I can do our traveling and get where we want to go when we want to be there.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: And so um, I actually was in Mount Shasta uh and Betty was you were in St.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: Louis at that time, weren't you?
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm still in St.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: Louis, yeah.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: You're still in St.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: Louis.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't get to travel like I thought I was.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: So so anyway, we got it, we got set up, we did it, and when we went to uh upload the files, Betty's file was very small.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: And we're like, that's not quite right.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_00: So when we went back in, it didn't record any of her voice during the entire recording.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: It just it wasn't even there.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: And so then we had to step back and say, okay, what we do wrong?
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: How did this you know?
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so it was very purposeful.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_00: We fixed we troubleshot it, shoot it, and and we fixed, you know, the setting and everything, but it was on purpose for us to step back and and say, Okay, um this isn't meant to be.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, I heard just step back and walk away today, and so that day I did.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_02: It was interesting too because you were getting uh signs too, like you couldn't get upload yours into the Yeah, it wasn't showing.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we were just there was just all kinds of flags.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: So now since we did that two days ago, and now we have a really good idea what happened in the last two days before this morning, which is the full moon.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_00: And so much happened with me in those two days that has made a huge difference in how I understand this last moon week.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_02: And as soon as we finished recording it on Monday and realizing that it didn't mine didn't take, we're like, okay, so how does this what does this have to do with the surrender moon cycle?
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, well, duh, duh.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_02: This we didn't surrender into our true guidance, we surrendered to our predeterminations, which doesn't work.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_02: And so, yeah, that that was a perfect example of what happens when you're when you don't surrender.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_02: It and when it happens when you do surrender, which is Wendy's gonna explain now.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's well so so then, you know, Betty Betty was gonna be driving today towards Denver, and and then, you know, I actually drove back from Mount Shasta to Newport, Oregon.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so we have all this driving that's that's involved too.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, last night Betty and I were going back and forth, and she basically just shifted you shifted your driving days, right?
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_02: One day, which really didn't matter, other than this was another flag for me, uh, the I had uh reserved a plu a hotel.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'm actually we're actually going to Laramie, Wyoming, to Denver.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and they wouldn't they wouldn't refund or change my uh reservation.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_02: So that really ticked me off too.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_02: I was having a little hissy fit about that too.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_02: So but once I completely surrendered into it, I'm just gonna lose the money and it doesn't matter, and follow your guidance and you'll, you know, the orchestration will happen the way it's supposed to.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_00: So one of the things, um correct me if I'm gonna talk about me, but maybe it's the same for you, Betty.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, is that these days, you know, doing this on the full moon is extremely significant.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, to be maybe a little more conscious, you and I conscious of setting this day aside and saying this is when we record the podcast, instead of making the podcast secondary, according to all the other incidentals.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I the couple things to that.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I've always set this day aside, and I really don't have any plans.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_02: I I usually make no plans for this day.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_02: When we first started doing it, I tried to make it like just a normal day and we'll fit this in.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, had too many experiences not to.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_02: And then I realized there is a window, and I still believe that there is a window with the full moon and the new moon.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_02: I think for me, I tried I've I dismissed all of that, and I tried to push my idea of the window an extra day, and it it just doesn't work.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_02: It just doesn't work.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: So because these last two days in a moon week, they're reflection, okay?
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: And it kind of pulls everything together in that moon week.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: And um, so what happened uh last night is I sat down and uh you know really did a good reflection of what happened in the last two moon weeks and how that's relative to those dynamics.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: My experience is really relative to those two moon week di dynamics, and especially what happened in the last couple days.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, yes, so that's a huge surrender for Betty and I twice because we had to surrender the day that it happened that it didn't record her voice, and then we also had to surrender last night to you know her bumping her driving days and you know, setting, okay, so this is gonna be our priority.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: Even though all this other all these other activities and everything are going on, so that's what we we've really learned.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I think it's really interesting.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_02: Jerry's been doing this with me so long, he was just like, okay, whatever, you know, I'll go do this, this, and this while you're doing the podcast.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_02: There was like he's he was okay with it.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_02: Betty was not okay with it.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_02: Betty was the one having the issue.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: I thought that was really interesting too.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: And um, so it's a it's a big thing of being in the flow.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, but you know, I think there's layers of the predetermination, don't you?
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it doesn't we keep revealing.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it keep we keep experiencing these deeper layers of predetermination that we think, oh no, this is what we're supposed to do, you know, this is our inspired next step, and then we then we're so no, can you back up and look at what you did and how yeah, right, exactly.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: So uh in my life right now, I uh I was uh with the woodcarver for six days after I did the last podcast, which was during um the Inspired Next Step week of this moon cycle.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: And then I went to Mount Shasta and did an expo in Mount Shasta, which was quite amazing to be in that.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: I was there four days, um, and then yesterday I drove back to Newport, and I am um going to ease in moving in with him and see what happens.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: And Betty's like jumping up and down doing the happy dance.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_02: She's so happy, you can see how happy she is.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm so happy for her.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um it's a it's a new, and I'm gonna I'm gonna do a new Wendy with this.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: And so I actually am in a hotel the first couple nights because we're gonna ease into this.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: And uh he came over here last night and he had a vase of flowers for me, which just about melted.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_02: I mean he talks Wendy language, which brings it to the city.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: He's so sweet.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so yeah, that has been a part of my uh last two weeks is in the narrative and the um in the inspired next steps in the narrative.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: And when I was doing my reflection last night, we talk a lot about uh living your own consciousness, authentic true capacity of your consciousness.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and we talk a lot about relationships and how those relationships can be productive or less than productive in you doing that.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_00: And Betty and I have gone back and forth over years, haven't we?
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: With can you do that in a way in a relationship that you're both living your own consciousness, but you're still in relation an intimate relationship.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: And so Betty and Jerry has gone through that without severing their marriage, you know, it's more they're you're living your own consciousness and your own expression, but you're still an intimate relationship.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right, exactly.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: And in my situation, that wasn't that wasn't an option where I needed to sever that marriage in a way so that I could live my own consciousness.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: And then over four years it was a question with the capacity of what I do with living the moon cycles and co-create and downloading information and writing and does you know, all of this stuff, is there really room in my life for an intimate relationship?
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, I tried dating, you've all heard about the matchmaking thing and then all these different and the you know, the landlord, my heart relationship, and um and so I got to the point where I was like, No, I just don't think it's gonna happen.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: And even when I left on this trip, I really was like, I d don't think that that's gonna be a part of it.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think there's rumors.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's and then I met the woodcarver.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: Everything changed in four weeks And now now I'm moving in to a very small I I think it's interesting because this is it's a very small kind of apartment that's on the back of his shop and um it's only four hundred and twenty square feet of space, which is interesting too.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: But you gotta be pretty intimate in every sense of the word.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and I think um another thing to mention is this is really a kind of three three relationships because um he isn't divorced from his wife that left two and a half years ago.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: They've stayed together so that he can keep his shop and his gallery and everything up and running.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: Because if they did get divorced, they'd have to split everything and they'd have to sell it.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: And so she has been very accommodating with keeping his life what he knows and what he loves.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: And so um but with me moving in, there's you know, he still is friends with her and she's you know, interested in who I am and living in the space that they both own.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's another thing I've been talking to Betty about is how you know it'd be great if we're all friends and we all understood each other and and you know, the where all these relationships are and how that works.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that would just be amazing to me.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: Because in in my life that isn't happening.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's a very cut and dried right now situation.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and and to be fair, I would say mass consciousness, uh, that's at least been my experience, that people do not stay together in healthy relationships, friendships after they're divorced for the most part part.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of drama involved and um and antagonistic feelings.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_02: So, but I do think it's possible to have um healthy relationships with each other, with the spouses, with the ex-spouse.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's just does each person uh live to the authentic, true capacity of their consciousness.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I do believe people can do that.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_02: And it was the same with me, can you know, breaking apart.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: Can we do that?
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: Can we break apart the marriage in a different way and still remain friends and lovers and have an intimate relationship?
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: And it that's what it boils down to is the living the true capacity of your consciousness, each person, each person.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um and it's also me recognizing you know uh preconceived ideas about you know uh her and friends, and um it's been quite a quite an exercise because I was telling Betty, it's not my place to manage any of that.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's it's whatever it is and let it be and unfold in whatever way it might be.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_02: And that's the soft, open, and receptive, and it's also uh curious, wonder and adventure.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, curiosity, wonder and adventure.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: So this soft, open and receptive too, aren't we learning a lot about that?
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: Huge part because I started this relationship with that and even verbalizing it.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: Soft, open, and receptive, you know, and he can really tell the difference and he really understands that, and he wants to be that way too, soft, open, and receptive and be honest and you know, all of those things.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: So Wendy's gonna be a different person with this, and I'm gonna go in to this and not be my usual um let's change this and let's do this and let's make this this way, and you know, I can I can which is really I'm professional space planner, so I have to pull that out, back that out.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it becomes a dance.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_02: That then it becomes a dance, and you're not leading.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, that's what it is.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: So there's multiple things going on with this, but I gotta say, I'm it's a beautiful relationship, and our creativity is just amazing.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like we we sit and we're like, what if what if we use this tool on this piece of wood and made this pattern and then did this, and you know Wendy's gonna start playing with the wood too, she's gonna become a war wood carver.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: Wood carver.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm also entertaining an idea.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, this is orchestration.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he noticed when he went and got his mail the other day that this apartment that's right next to door to his shop had a forent sign in it, that somebody it was open, and he was like, Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, because he realizes that I can't really work where he's carving.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: These are chainsaws, you know.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: I mean they're pretty loud, and then the people in the shop and everything, and the the little dinger goes off in the apartment when someone comes through the door, so you can know that somebody's come in.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: So so he's very conscious of that I need my quiet space to write and to do all this.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: And so then he was like all over.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, Oh man, I called him.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: I called him three times and I've found out, and because he you know, he wants me to have that space, and so um I'm looking at renting that apartment just to be able to go there during the days and do what I need to do for work-wise.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: And Betty, I think, is happy with that idea, aren't you, buddy?
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_02: Well, for several reasons.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: One, you're so happy, it's obvious you're so happy.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, the other thing I know, and this is my knowing, and I feel like you do too, is that we can have intimate relationships, but like you said, we when we're living our own consciousness, we need that space to unfurl ourselves and be ourselves instead of tying yourself in completely and doing whatever the other living the other person's consciousness.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_02: In fact, I had a big awareness yesterday morning, which Wendy already knew, but I had not, and I think a lot of the listeners may not have seen this flip.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: I woke up realizing that my love for Jerry, which is full and deep and rich, and those are the words I heard when I woke up, um, are uh true.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_02: And I realize that.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: Now, what I've been trying to do for years is break that apart so it isn't full, deep, and rich, so that I can be all relationships are equal.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm trying to make my relationship with Jerry equal to Mass Consciousness's relationship.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I heard yesterday, no, you flip it.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: So, what my full, rich, deep relationship with Jerry, my love for him, actually is what I experience with everyone else.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: I have that with my kids, I have that with their spouses, I have that with Wendy, um, I have that with my grandchildren.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: So now take that out into every expression, every person that I meet, versus trying to tone what I already have down, bring that out into the world.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: And the key to that is like we just said a minute ago, is if each relationship, each person in that relationship is all is living their authentic, true capacity, their consciousness.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it just blew my mind.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: So so we have we have these key ideas that go with the four quadrants of the sacred geometry, and one of them is um all relationships are equal.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: So and we've years and years we've been w working with that idea that they're all equal.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm I'm just gonna kind of summarize what you said, Betty, where where we're thinking these not to have special relationships, not to have the ones where you're like um you know, this person is more important than everyone else in my life, and that kind of a thing, because it really is saying that they're all equal.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: None of them are more special.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: So in Betty's situation and and with me, we're thinking, well, then we don't have those deep full relationships anymore.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: They're all gonna be kind of more superficial.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, we're just gonna be we're supposed to make them all even.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: And and what Betty realized was it no, when they're all equal, they're all the dip, deep, rich, fulfilling relationships.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and so that's a concept to entertain that that that all your relationships can be that, and then they're all equal in that way.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_02: They're all that deep fulfilling and and if they're living their true capacity, their consciousness.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_02: That k that part has to be included in it.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: So can you see we've had all these different experiences?
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like we were trying to pull all this together, we were just went, let's just start recording.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so I did have some really cool experiences on the expo friend.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh flew in and it's always wonderful to spend time with Fran.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: She's uh another colleague, so there's really the three of us um working, running, co-create, and living the moon cycles.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: And um, so uh Mount Shasta is what everybody knows as a mystical, uh how would you describe mystical place, uh very spiritual place, um, all kinds of extraordinary from what you said, from what you said, it sounded very mystical, yeah.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I saw that.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: I saw that in the people.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: I saw Pat Friend and I were blown away just walking down the street, and they they make eye contact for a long time and then they're like, hello.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: And the way they sell hello, it's just like it goes through your entire being.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: They actually see you.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody sees and hears each other.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um but I did uh I did the booth by myself on Sunday, which was really fun because I haven't ever done that, Betty.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: You and this is the first expo we we've done all the expos together except this one.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_02: I I go to this one, yeah.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and to see the difference.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um there were pretty there were people waiting to talk to me when you're not there, Betty.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, Wendy, there are people waiting to talk to you when I was there.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_02: Come on.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: There was maybe I was more conscious of it though.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: That could be yeah.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but and Brian or uh people were asking me what the difference was between the Shasta expo and the um, you know, the other expos.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I I would say there were more men at this expo.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: We hadn't discussed that.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: No, I I I realized that.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: And um and even, you know, some of the expos there were a lot of families.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: There weren't that many families, there were more like friends.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um I met this one woman, Emily.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: I I went to dinner with her uh Monday or Sunday, whatever whatever day it was, and um she was she's an amazing person.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: I think she's gonna be really involved in co-creating living the moon cycle.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: She was asking me questions about conscious innovation and everything that just blew my mind.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, we need this person.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: We need she was extracting, she was extracting information from me like Betty always does.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm sitting there trying to eat.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, waha.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: And she she does the thing, if you guys remember with Stacy, Stacy would ask a question, but it was really 47 questions in one.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: And Emily did that.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: It was like, boom, there's 10 questions in that question.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: And then she kind of apologized.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, that's exactly how this works.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um well, even one of the questions, even one of the concepts that you shared with me that she brought in yesterday, and and I don't even remember what it what it was now, but it like totally flipped everything we were thinking of.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it was about the Gregorian calendar.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's right, yeah, and how the birth date makes a difference.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it was just she's already bringing so much to it.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I also met so many more people um at the expo, and um, I'm hoping that they contact us, and that's how it works.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if they send us an email and want to dive deeper.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, so that was fun.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it was a very simple booth, no technology.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: It just doesn't seem right in Mount Shasta.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: It kind of changes wherever we go, doesn't it?
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: What we have it's been different every time, yeah.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we gave away all the books in one day, and then I held back, I was told to hold back three books, and then I knew exactly those people that needed the hard copy of the book on Sunday, and I gave them that.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: And um, our our narrative was different too.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: I started with, we would love you to l live the authentic true capacity of your consciousness, and then I would pause, and I could tell when that had sunk in and they got it by the way their face looked, and then I would say, Beyond your limiting perception, and then I would pause, and they would go, Yes! Okay, let's do that, you know.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I thought that was really cool.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then I went on to say the what best way to do that is with you know, cyclical time and living the moon cycles, and then led into all of that and talked about the how the calendar holds us static.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I think that part of it is really, really fun to see the narrative that changes where we are with whatever that consciousness is.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: Even sitting in the in the coffee shops, and you know, Fran, we're standing there the first morning in a long, in a kind of long line in a coffee shop, and and we stopped talking and we're both looking around, and I was just about to say, she goes, I'm just enjoying people watching Wendy.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I thought, that's exactly what I was gonna say to her.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like just taking it all in.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, but bit but when you know, you listen to a conversation at a table next to you, and one of them was, Did you know I just found out I'm a white wizard dragon or something?
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I mean, these, and I'm like, I want to know what that is.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: I want to understand that.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, all the it's it's just such deep, you know, the the spiritual, the mystical, um, all the conversations you hear are that.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: Or we were eating dinner and this one woman's talking about Hawaii and Lemuria and how she knows she's from there, and uh I mean everything like that.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: So it sounds like a quite eclectic, maybe diverse group of people.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so I'm gonna share that when I went to when I drove to Mount Shasta, I had some pretty intense back pain, and it had to do with being with um the wood carver, and we had a lot of fun uh during the six days I was here.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: So um when I got to Mount Shasta, I was like, what is going on with my back?
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, why am I even supposed to do the expo?
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: I was supposed to do a talk in the expo, and I called Betty and I well the night before I did a deep surrender, and I was like, Because what we say is, and we truly hold to this, is that all suffering is the resistance to change.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so that back pain was somehow a resistance to change for me.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: And the night it got worse on Friday night and before the expo on Saturday, and I I just was in the shower and I was I was crying because I'm like, what why do I have this back pain?
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: How am I resisting what change?
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I and realized it's it was moving to Oregon, it was it was accepting everything that's being shown to me.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: So I did a deep surrender and I could feel it released, I could feel it get so much better when I did the surrender.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: But then I work woke up the next morning and it was still there.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I called Betty.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: And it really was Betty helps everything.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_02: But it really isn't even so much about moving to Oregon, I think.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_02: Correct me if I'm wrong.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's really more about moving away from St.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_02: Louis and your your uh certainty, security, your being comfortable and familiar.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it is that, but I I think it was also the relationship because when I left, I him and I were both a little uncertain, and we we did admit that we were kind of scared with how fast this has gone and and everything.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: So so I still didn't feel quite right about the expo and the talk.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: And we talked to Betty and Betty says, What if you just don't do the expo and the talk?
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: How does your body feel?
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: And it was completely relieved.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I went, Wow, okay, so this does have to do with the expo.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: And and I and maybe, you know, now I think Betty, maybe it had to do with me doing it on my own without you too.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I hadn't thought of that.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so um Betty had s we had some place to go.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_00: You were getting on a plane, yes.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: And so I um we hung up and and I I held in mind not doing the talk and my body was much better, and then I held on my in mind doing the expo and my body was fine.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Okay, so I'm supposed to do the expo, not the talk.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_00: So then Fran showed up in my room and we talked about a little bit and I contacted the pup the organizers and I said, I'm an opting out of the talk.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: And and then I felt much better.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: And then w the person next the person who had a booth next to me was this uh energy healer.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: She did everything.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: I did a session with her and she did this amazing thing on my back.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: She she gathered she she opened a new flow of light and energy into my my lower back, and then she gathered everything into the center and she stabilized it.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I got up off the massage and was like, Oh my god, she completely fixed my back.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like it was so beautiful.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: And she granted she did a lot of other things too.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, where she was working on me, and and it her voice is just angelic too.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: And then I had another man the next day on Sunday.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: His name was Twister.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_02: You don't forget a name like Twister.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he came by on Saturday.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: He floated into my booth and he was about 6'4, and very tall with the kind of scraggly blonde hair, older, about my age, and um, but you could tell he had he he he basically was a floating healer, and he said, all over California, and he just floats around.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_00: So we talked, of course, for a very long time because we totally related to each other, and and I finally said, So, Twister, what are you seeing in me?
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: And he took my shoulders and he goes, Wendy, stand up straight.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: And he rolled my shoulders back, and my whole heart opened up, and he was like, Yeah, so you feel your heart, and I go, Yeah, Twister, this is amazing.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: And then he looks at my feet and he goes, Your feet are pointing out.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: And he goes, You need to put them straight.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I went, Wow.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: And so I put my feet straight with what he did with my shoulders was like, Whoa, I'm getting a full adjustment in this expo, right?
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like so, anyway, those two things happened, and um yeah, and I told Betty, I'm learning to walk again in a new posture or a new way.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_02: How so how is your back now?
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's fine.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_02: That's great.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's just fine.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_00: And so after I think it was Monday morning after the expo, I heard that the wood carver and I broke apart all the scar tissue, symbolically and actually physically in my back, okay, from an old relationship.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then these healers put it all back together and stabilized it in a new way.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and and Twister showed you the foundation, the structure, and how to keep that alignment.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that alignment, yeah, in order.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's great.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: So you think you're going to pass out cards in a book, Betty?
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: Which you're really good at.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: Which we did.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: Which we did.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: And and I had beautiful relations.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: Fran and I had great relationships with the vendors.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: We're all gonna stay in contact.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's so much about the vendors being meeting other vendors too.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: And what we did.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_00: The one woman, um, Leslie, called me over and she said, Okay, look at all my she had like rocks and crystals and everything.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_00: She could, what's the sacred geometry in all this, Wendy?
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Oh shit.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: Good question.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_00: But what happened was her collective intelligence.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: I started streaming.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_00: I could hear her collective intelligence explaining all different kinds of things with it.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_00: And um, so we had a deep I had a deep session with her of actually she considered herself channeling and I I explained what streaming was, which is what really more appropriate for her capacity for consciousness.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_02: Which is really w she wasn't there necessarily for the crystals.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: No, you know what Franna and I figured out?
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of these people sell these crystals and rocks and all this other stuff, but if you if you look, they're doing they have a back end that they don't really promote.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like do you'll see a book in a card deck sitting there, and then you see all these crystals and jewelry or whatever.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_00: But it's really they're a cardology or they're a you know, they're whatever.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: And they're streaming a healer of some sort.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: They're streaming some intelligence and but they feel as though they can't put that as their forefront.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: They have to have the other.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's this kind of safe facade in a way.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and maybe maybe that's a way of making money too, or even maybe it's a way of drawing those people who are meant to to that to their booth.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: So when you come to our booth, we don't have any of this stuff.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: We don't even have the we have the table pushed to the back and chairs, and people do say that it's a relief when they come to our booth because we're not selling anything.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_01: We're presenting ourselves.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_00: And we're just it's more or less here's what we know.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: If you're interested in it.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: So that was a um I so I did eat lunch the one day on Sunday when I was there on my own.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_00: Fran went off and had an adventure.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: She drove around she drove around the entire mountain with her friend.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_01: Mount Shasta.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_00: Mount Shasta.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and they were on like these these military roads or mining roads and and with no cell phone, and her her friend is in a big pickup truck, and Fran was like, Oh my gosh, I hope I get back.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, but I did, I took a break and I sat outside and and these the expos in a city, the buildings of a historic buildings in a city park, and I was watching everyone.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: There was a drumming group, and there's you know, um, all kinds of spiritual activity going on.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just and I sat there and I was like, could I do this a hundred percent of the time?
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: Could I be immersed this much in that in this culture in there?
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I really was like, I think I'm more technical than this or something.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: You have different gifts to offer.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: It was I was like, these are my people, but in it, I'm just there's something like I'm not as deep into that mysticism.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_00: So it was it was quite the adventure.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was really happy to be yesterday.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_00: I had a choice.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: Either it was going to St.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_00: Louis or it's coming back to Oregon.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_00: And it was like I turned the car, started going back to Oregon, and then my whole body was like, yes.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: So tell everybody, tell everybody where what you're up to, Betty, with you're gonna go to Denver.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm um Jerry and I are driving to Laramie, and then we're gonna go up to the White Mountains Mountains.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_02: They're also called what, the Snowy Ridge Mountains.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_00: Snowy Mountains.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: Snowy Mountains.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_02: And we're gonna I'm gonna be guided to where I'm gonna go up there.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_02: And then on Saturday, I'm driving to Denver.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I'm spending uh five weeks for sure, maybe six, not sure.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_02: The end is is not not exact yet.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I'm just gonna spend some time with my daughter and her husband and uh our two granddaughters, and I'm so excited to see these girls.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: They send me videos and they're growing up so fast.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: I just I just want to grab onto these babies and and hug on them.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_02: So uh last year was very difficult uh with health issues for the two of the girls.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: The one is just gonna be one and the other one just turned three.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_02: And so this time Jerry and I are gonna go do some exploring.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_02: We've uh booked some fun places up at the uh Mount Princeton, the hot springs, and we're gonna get massages there, and then the next day we're going to um uh the Surf Hotel, which we love going to that, and maybe rent some bikes and just do fun things that we've always wanted to do, and um just just explore that area, which we haven't really done.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we've been up there skiing and that we've been to Breckenridge many times, but just see where the guidance is and and go there.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm very, very excited.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: And isn't it interesting?
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know, one of the things that Betty and I are really aware of is the timing of everything.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so she's going to be there in new behavioral patterns and new perspective.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: And then a whole nother and then the beginning of the next of surrender.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: And this is Betty's surrender is Betty's superpower too.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_00: So this moon cycle is is very heightened for learning potential for her.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe yeah, but I would say that the one of the really big things is is the timing, like the timing I met the wood carver, what week it was in the moon cycle, and what moon cycle, and then you know how all this the progression of this relationship has gone with each different moon week.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: And and to it's it's amazing that it just follows it perfectly.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so really for everyone, we're at the full moon of the surrender moon cycle.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_00: So really step back and and reflect on the change that has been provided you or given you or presented to you in the last two moon cycles and how that has involved surrender and how you're surrendering.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's a you're surrendering a part of yourself.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm doing.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm surrendering many parts of myself in this this new relationship and um you know, li moving in or living together.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_00: And and so what aspects of your consciousness is going through this a new surrender in some way?
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: So that after this full moon, all right, we have behavioral patterns and new perspective, and that's the growth.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: So the deeper we surrender, the more potential of growth that is.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_00: And and so what is growth?
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, we can be presented with change.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: And if we don't accept that change, like my back hurt, all right, it we're not leaning into the growth.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_00: And growth is how it integrates into our consciousness, a new version of ourself, a new experience of ourself, or no knowing of ourself.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: So we've had the change, and now we're going through growth, the growth that can happen when you surrender is basically it.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_00: And one of the key things is accept what is and allow for what may be.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's the theme of this moon cycle of surrender.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's the truth of surrender.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_02: And the other day when we recorded the podcast not, um, that was a huge opportunity, a learning opportunity for me to truly surrender into that predetermination I had and what it has brought about uh with surrendering into me not having not being able to travel as I had expected, is to open up to uh new potentials of and not I I was really in the future and now I'm in the present moment to however it unfolds.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_02: I have yeah, we have no hotel reservations, we can go, there's many different ways we can go, so I'm just gonna sit back and listen and uh follow follow that guidance, which is a new behavioral pattern for me in a lot of ways.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know what I just realized too, Betty?
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_00: You and I surrendered to the dynamics of the moon cycles and the moon weeks by doing this podcast on the full moon.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_02: I see it, but I'm hearing I I get exactly what you're saying, but I'm hearing it.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_02: Please explain that for the people who are listening.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_00: When we were trying to do record the podcast days earlier, we were not surrendering into the full dynamics of this moon week.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: And we and that's what that situational exercise did.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_00: It was like, okay, you need to surrender into the entire moon week.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like, don't cut it off short.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like let it complete itself so that you get to where you need to be to be able to do the podcast.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: So you've done reflection, and now you can step into that full moon, full realization of change.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_00: And allow and the full potential of growth to happen.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: Accept what is and allow for what may be.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, what about this, buddy?
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: The first part changes accept what is, okay, accept what's being presented.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_00: The second part of this moon cycle is allow for what may be.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's very cool.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_00: Isn't that quite cool?
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_02: And you know what?
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_00: And the first part is change, and the second part of that statement is growth.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_02: And the movement from uh new narrative to behavioral patterns is a threshold.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_02: That threshold from change to growth.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_02: Cool insight, Wendy.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_00: I have a lot of potential of growth.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_00: I have a lot of potential of growth.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_00: Who knows?
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_00: Who knows?
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: Well, buddy, you got anything else to add?
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_00: You think we're good to go?
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_02: I think I think every I'm followed what my guidance, what I was supposed to bring in.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_02: No, I think it's great.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: Until next time, life is a journey of curiosity, wonder, and adventure.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_02: Live it and be it.