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- 0:08Welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa Capria. Do you believe in magic?
- 0:14What if you were told that all you had to do was get a
- 0:18little creative and work a magic spell to bring anything you can imagine into your
- 0:23life. Here on Postcards to the Universe, we will share manifesting tips,
- 0:29postcards, creativity, abundance, and prosperity. Here is your host, Melissa
- 0:35Capria. Hey everybody, and welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa creating
- 0:42the life you crave. It's Wednesday. How are you guys doing. I
- 0:47hope everybody's doing well. Who's listening to my show? I have a really
- 0:51interesting guests today. I have LaTaO wang On and he is the acclaimed author
- 0:58of Oracle of the Mythic Heroes and he's a personal I mean a professional astrologist
- 1:04and a terro specialist. And he's going to join me in just a couple
- 1:08of minutes. Thank you to my regular to tune in every week. It
- 1:12means the world to me. And if you're tuning in for the first time,
- 1:18I want to say welcome. Just a little bit about my show and
- 1:22me. You're listening, If you're listening right, now the show is live.
- 1:26We record live four pm Eastern Time each Wednesday, but you can you
- 1:32can always listen to previous shows or this show at another time, so Home
- 1:38Times puts it up in their archives. I take every show and I put
- 1:42it under the podcast on my website Postcards to the Universe, so you can
- 1:48and it has all the descriptions of the shows. So if you like the
- 1:51format of the show and you want to see what other guests I have,
- 1:55you could just go on my website Postcards to the Universe dot com or on
- 1:59Home Times Radio in the archives, and there's a description of each guest.
- 2:02And I like to have lots of different kinds of guests to keep my show
- 2:08interesting. And I meet the most interesting people, like today's show, which
- 2:13I'm excited to talk to Latal. So yeah, it's fun doing this show.
- 2:17I just love it. I meet the most interesting people from all over
- 2:22the world. So those of you who are just hearing me and found my
- 2:28show for the first time, about me. I'm an author also, and
- 2:32I'm a photographer and an artist myself and I have a book titled Postcards to
- 2:38the Universe, Harness the Universe's Power and manifest your dreams. And my book
- 2:42is all about manifesting and using the law of attraction, and I had people
- 2:46create what I call a manifesting postcard, which is kind of like a little
- 2:50mini vision board, and people would put on something that they wanted to bring
- 2:54into their life, and when that did show up in their lives, I
- 2:59would photograph the postcard and I would share their stories. So that is there's
- 3:05thirty of those in the book. Yeah, there's thirty of those in the
- 3:07book. And I broke it down in areas of our lives where we want
- 3:12more abundance, which is love and relationships, our monies, our career,
- 3:17our health. Those are all the areas that we always want to increase our
- 3:23abundance. So I have a lot of exercises and writing tips to get us
- 3:28to get clear on what it is we want to manifest. So if you're
- 3:30interested, you can find my book on Barnes and Noble or Amazon, and
- 3:38I hope that you do find that interesting because I also started doing live readings
- 3:43from my book on my social media TikTok, Instagram, LinkedIn, and YouTube.
- 3:47I post the videos, so I've been reading everybody's story and showing their
- 3:53postcard they're five minutes long, and I've been having a lot of fun them.
- 4:00And I've also been rephotographing the postcards because the book came out in twenty
- 4:04nineteen and here we are already in twenty twenty four. God time just flies,
- 4:09wow, And it's very different the way I've been I'm photographing the postcards
- 4:14and now than when I originally started. So it's been a lot of fun
- 4:17doing this kind of work. And I hope that you, guys. It's
- 4:23sparking an interest in you to send me a manifesting postcard, so please do
- 4:28that. If you go to my website, the address is listed on there,
- 4:31and how to create one is also on there, and of course you
- 4:34can reach out to me and send it in and have if you have any
- 4:38questions. I love getting them. I love when people ask me questions about
- 4:42them. So yeah, I hope that you do it, because they're a
- 4:46lot of fun. They really are to create them. I got a couple
- 4:50of workshops going on. One is called Manifesting through Gratitude, a visual journey
- 4:55where we use gratitude to manifest and our camera phones. You can find that
- 4:59out about You can find out about that God say that ten times fast.
- 5:04On my website. Everything's on my website. It links you to my social
- 5:09media's everything, So the workshops are on there. And I also teach a
- 5:12manifesting postcard. How to create a manifesting postcard. It's a one day it's
- 5:18a one day workshop. It's a lot of fun. So check it out.
- 5:21All right, let me get to my guest, because I'm excited to
- 5:27talk to him. LaTaO Wang, acclaimed author of Oracle of the Mythic Heroes,
- 5:31is a professional astrologist to row specialist and the founder and spiritual counselor of
- 5:36the Healing Kingdom. He has been offering astrology to row and numerology readings to
- 5:43clients in Hong Kong and abroad since twenty fifteen. In addition to his services,
- 5:48he shares his insights through Bustle dot COM's Astrology column, where he is
- 5:55a regular contributor. In the Oracle of the Mythic Heroes, we embark on
- 6:00a transformative journey with this guidebook, leaving behind the familiar gods and stepping into
- 6:06stories of humans like Helen of Troy Thedellas. I may have said that wrong,
- 6:12and he can correct me. And orpheus each connects to a zodiac sign,
- 6:16filling the tales with astrological significance. The book not only narrates, but
- 6:21provides real life examples from spiritual counseling sessions, helping you apply these heroic lessons
- 6:28to your life. It's not just storytelling, it's a voyage of self discovery.
- 6:33An excellent marketer and sensitive intuitive, Wang was named the Best Astrologer and
- 6:40Hero's Specialist in twenty twenty one by Hong Kong, Hong Kong's Most Outstanding Business
- 6:46Award and Spiritual Guide of the Year in twenty twenty by Hong Kong's Live Magazine,
- 6:51and was given Hong Kong's Influencers Award WOW in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty
- 6:58by Hong Kong Living Magazine. His own education includes a master's in counseling,
- 7:03a master's in translating and interpreting Chinese and English, in Advanced Diploma in Applied
- 7:09Astrology, and a bachelor's in English. So if you want to find out
- 7:13more about LaTaO, you can go to his website, which I'm going to
- 7:18read it and spell it out for you. It's The Healing Kingdom dot com
- 7:23www dot the th Healing h E A l I n G Kingdom k I
- 7:30n G d d O M dot com. Welcome LaTaO, thanks for being
- 7:33here with me today. Hi, Hello, Melissa, thank you so much
- 7:38for having me. You're calling from Hong Kong, right, that's what you
- 7:41told me right before we went on. Yeah, that's exciting than the first.
- 7:46It's a first for my show having somebody all the way over from Hong
- 7:50Kong calling in. So littoo, it's really specific. I mean, we're
- 7:56we're going to be talking a lot about this specific oracle deck you have.
- 8:00You have others also, But how did you get into this kind of work
- 8:05where you started doing astrology and trot and numerology? Were you always interested in
- 8:09that as a kid, Like, how did you find yourself doing that?
- 8:15Well? To be honest, when I was a kid, right, I
- 8:18actually had I knew nothing about our you know, the spiritual world, you
- 8:24know the mystical side of our lives. Right. I mean I grew up
- 8:28in a very traditional Chinese family and none of my parents were actually interested in
- 8:35you know, spirituality and astrology. And I would say my first encountering with
- 8:43astrology was quite late I think that was back in the early let's say,
- 8:50maybe two thousand and eight, two thousand and seven, so that was around
- 8:54my early twenties. I was living in the Sydney, Australia around that time,
- 9:00and I, yeah, very fortunately I encountered encountered my first astrology teacher
- 9:07in Sydney, and I was a client at that time. Yeah, I
- 9:11was not really systematically studying it. I just you know, walked into his
- 9:18shop in Sydney and you know, uh, he did a very quick reading
- 9:22for me, and I would say that was a very eye opening experience for
- 9:28me. Yeah, at that time, and that's how I started to become
- 9:33interested in discovering more about astrology and mythology. Yet hmmm, yeah, I
- 9:43mean I've always been into it since I was a kid, and this is
- 9:46like totally my wheelhouse. You know. I love astrology and numerology. I'm
- 9:52learning more about numerology now as I'm older than I ever did before. But
- 9:56it's really really interesting. And and you brought in with these cards, especially
- 10:03this Greek and Roman mythology, and I remember studying that back in school a
- 10:09long time ago and hearing these stories are very fascinating. So what is it
- 10:13about the Greek and Roman mythology that you wanted to incorporate into your cards and
- 10:22how does that correlate with the astrology, the tureau and everything. Yeah,
- 10:26I'll let you talk ahead. Yeah, that's a great question actually, because
- 10:31I think this has a lot to do with my first astrology teacher. You
- 10:35know, he was really different. He you know, I remember the first
- 10:41time, you know, I actually we had our first lesson. He told
- 10:48me that I should be expecting something very very different from most astrology compared to
- 10:56most astrology teachers, right, And I said why? And he said,
- 11:00because we're going to spend a lot of time talking about the Greek mythology.
- 11:07And so usually, you know, when you study astrology, for example,
- 11:11a very typical thing that a teacher will do is they will stop from explaining,
- 11:16let's say, the twelve zodic signs, and they will start talking about,
- 11:20you know, the basic meanings of each planet and house systems, you
- 11:24know, to just borrow my teacher's words. And he found it very bookish,
- 11:31you know what I mean. Yeah, So what he did with me
- 11:35was he he taught me mythology. You know, he was telling me all
- 11:39the fascinating stories from Iliad and Odyssey and you know, other famous Greek literature.
- 11:46And then he was throw a question at me, saying, okay,
- 11:50now you have heard the story, let's say, between Apollo and Hermes.
- 11:56So what do you think the planet Mercury means? Because you know the planet
- 12:00mercury Mercury is the Roman Roman name and the counterpart is the Greek counterpart is
- 12:05Hermes. So from the story, what do you think, Uh, you
- 12:11know the planet mercury uh symbolizes on our chart. And so my early days,
- 12:18you know, learning and study about a planet and astrology was really uh,
- 12:24it was deeply rooted from my understanding about the mythological stories. And so
- 12:31for me, there were never really different things anyway, you know when I
- 12:37guess when I was creating Oracle of the mythic Heroes, it was just really
- 12:43right up my alley. Yeah, from I really wanted to publish a book
- 12:48to talk about Greek mythology and you know, the fascinating stories, but I
- 12:54want to uh talk about them from an from an astrological perspective and how we
- 13:01can fight wisdom and sometimes it's about a very simple self analysis through those stories
- 13:07and then we can also connect that with our sunset, our munsa, our
- 13:13send and side, et cetera. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
- 13:16And I can see how you would marrying the Terreau and the stories from the
- 13:26life of the Roman gods and the Greek gods and what we're supposed to learn
- 13:31from them. Yeah, I can see how putting those together would really be
- 13:35really interesting. And just f y, I just so you know, Mercury
- 13:39is my ruler. I'm a Gemini, so I'm familiar with mercury, right,
- 13:46and it's no surprise that I fell into radio as a Gemini and Mercury
- 13:50being my ruler. Literally I fell into it. It wasn't something that it
- 13:54was I ever thought that I would do. So, yeah, it makes
- 13:58sense. Right, Well, go ahead, I'm notcally quite curious about One
- 14:03thing is so you know, we are actually finishing mercer retrograde. Okay,
- 14:11this is around you know today tomorrow is right. Yeah, So we've been,
- 14:13you know, going through mercer retort for the past three weeks. Do
- 14:16you feel that you tend to be affected by Mercury retrograde being a Gemini,
- 14:22This one, in particular, I was more than I've noticed in the past.
- 14:26There was a lot of technological glitches that kept coming up for me in
- 14:33this past one. But usually I enjoy a mercury retrograde. I really do,
- 14:37because I find myself going back and reworking things or that's when I get
- 14:45into my organizing and getting rid of things and like reevaluating things and where my
- 14:50life is at. So I find those times very productive in a sense,
- 14:56you know, for me personally. But this, yeah, I don't know
- 15:01what was going on. I just kept having one glitch after another of things
- 15:05just not working like and it was all technological based, and so that was
- 15:09my experience. Yeah, Now what is your sign? What are you?
- 15:13What's your sign? So my son's sign is I'm a cancer, yeah,
- 15:16my sne but my ascendence sign is virgal so I'm also used by Gemini.
- 15:22Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm also mercury. Yeah yeah. Virgos and Geminis
- 15:26are mercury rulers. Yeah, I'm a I'm a son in a double Leo,
- 15:31which is interesting. And I've learned a lot more about Leo in the
- 15:35last probably five years than I ever studied before, which is kind of makes
- 15:39sense. And I also have a lot of earthy signs in my charts and
- 15:46that makes a lot of sense. Why I'm like, I love home being
- 15:48home bound a lot, and yeah, I have all this stuff. So
- 15:50it's interesting about for people who are because I'm sure you know this. Most
- 15:56people just know their sun sign and that's all they read. And then they'll
- 16:00be like, well, you don't seem like a Virgo or a Gemini or
- 16:03a typical answer whatever, and you're like, yeah, because you're not looking
- 16:07at my whole chart, right, that's yeah. So that you know,
- 16:12that's one of the questions that I tend to be asked during my counseling session.
- 16:18You know, some clients would say, you know, I am let's
- 16:19say, I'm an aries. I don't feel like an aries at all,
- 16:22right, so how to explain that? Right? So that's actually a very
- 16:26good question just in case our audience is interested in in in hearing this.
- 16:33The sun sign is not really something that we were born with. Actually,
- 16:37So in astrology we see that our sun sign, it's a place where where
- 16:41we're heading towards because that's where the light is the sun is shining, you
- 16:45know, the place where the sun is really shining is where we're walking towards,
- 16:51and that's the so called the identity where the enlightenment that we're trying to
- 16:56reach. So to put in a very simple term, if you're an area
- 17:00sunshine areas, you're trying to become an areas in your life. Let's put
- 17:04it this way. So usually when people are very young, let's say when
- 17:07they were a child, a lot of them cannot really connect with your sun's
- 17:11sign because you know, it's very obvious we haven't got there yet. And
- 17:18and the moon sign is usually about our natural emotional reaction towards things. So
- 17:23we tend to be uh, we tend to feel like our moon sight more,
- 17:29I would say, because this is, you know, our emotion is
- 17:32not something we learn, it's something that naturally we we you know, it
- 17:36comes out right. And so uh, you know, moonsin is also related
- 17:40to our mother, our childhood, and so that's something more I was intrinsic
- 17:45yet enough. And the sundence sign is talking about the path you need to
- 17:49walk in order to get to your sun sign m and that makes sense yea
- 17:56ahead, Yeah, So it's interesting, right, So if you're sun sign
- 18:00and your ascendant or your writing sign are the same, it's actually a very
- 18:04good thing. It means that the path you're walking is exactly where you're heading
- 18:10to work, and so and plus you know, for some people, you
- 18:15know their sun sign, moon sign and the sentence that they're all the same,
- 18:17right, which is not very common. For those people, it's very
- 18:22easy for them to really channel their energy into one direction and so they So
- 18:27those people, when you meet them, you're going to find that they're very
- 18:30simple, simple in a way that they're not complicated, because they want what
- 18:37they need and they need what they want and their energy is very focused in
- 18:40one direction. Yet, oh that's very interesting. Yeah, and it makes
- 18:45sense now when when I learn more about Leo's and I when I get my
- 18:49feelings hurt, I'm very prideful, and that's not usually a Gemini thing.
- 18:55Geminis are very airy and oh just roll off your back. But when my
- 19:00pride gets hurt, oh you know what I mean, I am like a
- 19:03god cling gotta go lick my wounds. You know. So you did you
- 19:11say you your moon size or your son? Yes? Both? Both?
- 19:15Okay, okay, yes, yeah, so yeah, and it's so for
- 19:22anybody listening, I highly recommend and how tell everybody an easy way that they
- 19:26can just find out you know they're all three because most people, just like
- 19:30I said, know their son sign you know, look up. Yeah,
- 19:34so how do you how do you know all three? First of all,
- 19:38you know, you definitely would need to know your birth time. And this
- 19:42is you know, really a fifty fifty right. I mean I've been counter
- 19:45the clients who know their birth time to the to the to the minute,
- 19:49you know, like they was like, oh, yeah, you know I
- 19:52was born at you know five, you know, thirty seven pm, you
- 19:55know, something like that. But for some people they just saw that,
- 19:56they just say, you know, sorry, my mother doesn't really member and
- 20:00it's not really on my birth certificate. Right. So, and I think,
- 20:03you know, depending on you know, the country, the city you
- 20:06were born in, some hospitals just they just don't do that. And so
- 20:11in that way, it might be a little bit difficult, right because sometimes
- 20:15in a mother's memory it might not be very accurate that they were in pain.
- 20:21Right. So, but if you can find out your birth time,
- 20:23you can just easily log onto any astrology website and you can put your information
- 20:30there and the website should be able to give you at least your sonsie,
- 20:36your munsa and your ascendant sign and if you still think that's not very undependable,
- 20:41you can also consult as a professional astrologist. You can go to them,
- 20:47book a session with them and they will cast a chart for you.
- 20:51Yeah. Now, do you work one on one with clients if they want
- 20:56it? Do you do charts or do you account you you do a chart
- 21:00and you also do their numerology too, which I'm going to let you share
- 21:04a little bit about how numerology works, because, like I said, this
- 21:08is newer for me, and a lot of people don't understand about your numerology,
- 21:14your life path and all that that stuff. So share a little bit
- 21:18with us, right. So for me, actually it's a little bit different.
- 21:22Yeah, because most let's say, if you find it just an astrologer
- 21:29or whatever, fortune teller, psychic online, right, So usually on their
- 21:32website they will say, okay, my service include Okay, if you want
- 21:36to do astrology reading, this is how magic costs, right, doing numerology
- 21:40reading, this is howmogic costs. I don't really do that because I identify
- 21:45myself as a counselor and okay, I'm certified as a counselor in Hong Kong,
- 21:51So what I do is called spiritual counseling, So I don't really separate.
- 21:56Okay, so we're now we're going to do astrology, where now we're
- 21:59doing you more. What I do is through the purpose of the session is
- 22:03to is about counseling and therapy and finding solutions and balance for the either the
- 22:12patient or the client. And so during the session I will make the judgment
- 22:18whether I should use astrology now to tackle the Usually we're talking about sometimes the
- 22:23whole session we're not looking at at astrology at all. Maybe I'm purely using
- 22:30terrot or oracle cars. Sometimes I might be spending eighty percent of my session
- 22:37doing numerology and twenty percent time we're doing other things. And so it's really
- 22:41case by case. And so usually when a client makes an inquiry and they
- 22:45say, oh, can I just do an astrology reading, I'll explain how
- 22:48I work with them, unless they say, you know, they have some
- 22:52very strong preference or they will say, oh, I don't like terrot right,
- 22:57because some people they will be very straightforward. They was say, you
- 23:00know, because of my religious beliefs or whatever, I just don't want you
- 23:03to use any type of cars. Can you just only use astrology, and
- 23:07in that case, of course, I would, you know, try to
- 23:11avoid that, right if the client is being uncomfortable. I love that you
- 23:18do that. I love that you do that because I love I think everybody
- 23:23should get some kind of counseling, even if there's nothing wrong in your life.
- 23:29I just think it's such a great tool to go to somebody and to
- 23:33help to have some kind of assistance, guidance, help, whatever. And
- 23:37I love that you do it with astrology, trurou numerology instead of the traditional,
- 23:44especially over here in America, western psychology, right, you know,
- 23:48because there's many of us that don't relate to that Western psychology where you sit
- 23:56and you just do the talk therapy and let's go back into our childhood and
- 24:00what happened to you. And that doesn't work necessarily for everyone, right,
- 24:04So I love that this is an option. Like as my personality and especially
- 24:11where I am now, this relates to me personally so much better, tapping
- 24:15into my what you know, where my signs and my you know, my
- 24:19numerology and the tureau and it's just wonderful that you have come up with a
- 24:26way to put it all together. So what is the healing Kingdom. Is
- 24:30that what what does that title mean? Because you say you're a spiritual counselor
- 24:33of the Healing Kingdom. What does that mean? Right? Yeah, so
- 24:37so the king Kingdom is right, my friend? Rightious? Okay, practice
- 24:41okay right? So so the heating part, obviously is the part that I
- 24:48do therapy about, you know, the therapeutic value of our session. And
- 24:53I think from the very beginning of my practice, I always subconsciously had this,
- 25:00uh I was a happy desire where I felt very connected to the art
- 25:07of healing. My first astrology teacher was not really a healer because he was
- 25:15more like a fortune teller, you know what I mean. He was a
- 25:18psychic. So the early days training that I received in the esoteric field was
- 25:23really about, you know, the psychic greetings and things like that. But
- 25:27the more I practice, the more I realized that what really gave clients and
- 25:33also gave me, uh, the sense of fulfillment and satisfaction, was about
- 25:37therapy. And so slowly, you know, the more I developed my career,
- 25:44the more I realized that I became less interested in predicting future for my
- 25:49clients because I don't think my clients really need that and based on my experience,
- 25:55more often than not, they should be aware of their own ability to
- 26:00create their future instead of believing that everything is already predestined in the sky.
- 26:07I usually say this to my clients. Astrology does not predict your future.
- 26:11Astrology is a little bit like a mirror synchronizing your own behavior and your own
- 26:18patterns. But you always have a say in in changing, transforming and improving
- 26:26yourself. And I think that's really the key point for someone when they go
- 26:33into a counseling session with therapy, because if they believe that everything is already
- 26:37written in the stars, so just deal with it, right, so I
- 26:40can't change it, that's just what my life is, then we're pretty much
- 26:45in giving up on our self manifestation, which you know, this word you
- 26:51know is always talked about by by therapists, by counselors, and by the
- 26:56spiritual people. And so the Healing Kingdom, the brand is really about bring
- 27:00the therapeutic and also the healing elements into our session and so that when the
- 27:07client walks out of a session, they are not just feeling that now someone
- 27:11pulped me about my future, but more importantly, they know that there's something
- 27:15that they can do to create that better future for themselves. Hmmm, I
- 27:19love that. Well, that's all I'm about. The manifesting is creating the
- 27:22future that we want for ourselves, co creating with the ures. Yeah,
- 27:26so I'm gonna let's take our break now, and then when we come back,
- 27:30I want to talk about how about the oracle of the mythic heroes?
- 27:33All right, everyone, stay tuned, we'll be back in just a couple
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- 30:44Welcome back, and if you're just joining me, I have calling in
- 30:48from all the way from Hong Kong. LaTaO Wang spiritual counselor and professional astrologists
- 30:53and the creator of the new of a deck, the Truro Deck titled the
- 30:59Or of the Mythic Heroes. And let's tell what will people who get your
- 31:08deck find in the historical stories of the Greek and the Roman mythology, or
- 31:15in the heroes of their sign like when they're doing a card pull or reading
- 31:22for themselves, or you know, for others. You know, a lot
- 31:25of people like to have decks and they do readings for their family and friends.
- 31:30So India deck, right, there are forty mythic heroes that are right.
- 31:37So on each Greek hero is linked to a keyword. So for example,
- 31:45let's use an example. So you are a Gemini, right, So
- 31:48in the chapter for Gemini, there are three heroes, and there are related
- 31:53to the three different decades in the constellation Slam Gemini, and those three heroes
- 32:00are Ariadne, Paris right, the judgment of Paris, and the third one
- 32:05is Numa from Roman mythology. And the keyword are also different. So Ariadne
- 32:10is related to the keyword curiosity, and Paris is linked to the keyword indecision,
- 32:16and Numa is linked to the keyword humor. That sounds like me curio
- 32:28right, exactly Rightmi. So so those keywords were selected by me because I
- 32:34feel they can best, let's say, represent geminis qualities. Right. Of
- 32:39course, we can't just use three words of describe a sign, but I
- 32:43would say those are very prominent. And so when we pull a card,
- 32:47what we are going to see on the card is a beautiful illustration of the
- 32:52story about the hero. Right. So for example, in the card Paris
- 32:58and you will see Paris standing in the middle of the picture, and he's
- 33:01holding a golden apple, and in front of him there are three goddesses,
- 33:07the goddess hera Athema as well as Aphrodite, and you can see on the
- 33:13car the parish looked very, very confused and did he did not know whom
- 33:17he should give the golden apple to. And the story was basically about him
- 33:22needing to choose the most beautiful goddess in the world, and he was looking
- 33:29at those three women and thinking, you know, what do I do about
- 33:31this? And so when we're looking at the illustration, first of all,
- 33:37we can, first of all, you know, just to feel from that
- 33:39picture, right, because the picture also says indecision there, So what do
- 33:43we feel about that picture if you don't know the story yet, And of
- 33:46course when you really dive into the stories, you will understand the whole picture
- 33:51of a judgment of Paris and why was he indecisive? And he's indecision led
- 33:57to what right at a later stage. And so through these the storytelling and
- 34:02also on the teaching section in the guide book, we'll be able to find
- 34:07some either let's say, challenges that we're dealing with at that moment, or
- 34:15we might be just gaining some kind of wisdom that we might need to hear
- 34:20at that time. So this is actually a daily practice that would I would
- 34:24highly recommend to people. Sometimes, you know, we don't really need to
- 34:29use cars to answer a very complicated, you know, life changing question.
- 34:34Sometimes it's just a daily question like Okay, I just need to know what
- 34:38I need to know so that today I will be happy, I will have
- 34:43a better unproductive day, or I will be the best version of myself.
- 34:46And I think that's when when we use Oracle cars. And I also think
- 34:52what sets my deck different from a lot of other Oracle card is that my
- 34:57deck has a very strong storyteller an element in it, and so you can
- 35:04really read the story and use your own imagination and intuition to connect yourself with
- 35:09the hero in the story. Hmm. I love that. That's why I
- 35:14love Oracle dex And the way that I always do it is I shuffle a
- 35:19lot. I like the act of shuffling, and whatever jumps out, I
- 35:23always allow it to jump out because there's always one that does or two and
- 35:29then I feel like, Okay, that's what I need to hear today,
- 35:30and it always somehow relates to something I'm thinking about or something that's happening in
- 35:38my life. So there, I'm always getting messages. And the people that
- 35:44listen to my show are the kind of people that believe that we get messages
- 35:51from Spirit, the universe, God, Buddha, whatever you want, It
- 35:54doesn't matter, whatever you want to call it, right that we're always receiving
- 36:00messages from the universe. So yeah, I love the fact that you can
- 36:05just grab a card and ask yourself what is it today that I need to
- 36:08hear? And you actually have in in when when I have a guest,
- 36:14I asked sometimes they'll send me some questions, and one of your questions is
- 36:19what might the universe be telling us in the card for Medusa? And I
- 36:23really want to know to answer to that question. Medusa is a very fascinating
- 36:30character. So yeah, so what what what will the universe be telling us
- 36:35in the card for Medusa? Yeah, so that's such an amazing question.
- 36:38Actually question so much is so uh it's such a complex figure in greet Yeah,
- 36:49because she herself, you know, we don't know if we would really
- 36:52call her a hero, but definitely in the early stage of her story,
- 36:57she was a victim, so, you know, just in case our audience
- 37:02is not familiar with Medusa's story, right, So she originally was a priestess
- 37:08serving in athena temple. Athena is the goddess of justice and wisdom. And
- 37:15but to be a priestess, loyal priestess to Athena, the princess has to
- 37:21remain her virginity. She cannot marry a guy, she cannot have any sexual
- 37:25contact with a male. And that's just Athena's requirement, because Athena herself is
- 37:31a virgin goddess. But Medusa was seduced by the god of ocean Poseidon in
- 37:40some version of the story. And they say Poseidon actually raped her in the
- 37:45in the source, So she was victimized, right, And but at the
- 37:49end, Asenam punished her instead of prosidon, which is you know, in
- 37:54our modern day, uh perspective, it's crazy, right, Well, I
- 38:00have to tell you, I have to tell you. I have to just
- 38:05say, truthfully, for a lot of women, not much has changed.
- 38:07Sadly that a lot of women get blamed for being you know, you know,
- 38:12raped and attacked and assaulted. So it's interesting that this is a mythological
- 38:16story. Okay, go ahead, I'll let you continue. Yeah, yeah,
- 38:20I totally hear you, right, you know, you know we still
- 38:22see that kind of you know, thing's happening, you know, not just
- 38:24in the face in Asia a lot, right sure. Yeah. So after
- 38:30that Athena to some people say it's a punishment yet, but also some mythologists
- 38:37and scholars say it's actually a protection from Athena. Athena transformed, and they
- 38:42does it into an ugly monster. She lost her beauty and she had snake
- 38:47hair and all of that, right, And some people say, oh,
- 38:50it's a Sina trying to protect her from from male predators. But obviously,
- 38:54you know, it's also a kind of punishment for her. And so that's
- 39:00sort of like when she was deemed as a monster and she was afraid to
- 39:06uh to look at anything because anything she sees will be turned into stone.
- 39:09Now right now, obviously for the people around her, they were scared.
- 39:15Nobody wants to look at her. But deep down, she's also very sad
- 39:19because you can imagine, if you can't look at anything, then you can't
- 39:23really love anyone, because anyone you love, you look at them, you
- 39:28will turn them into stone, So how can you make a connection with them?
- 39:30Right, So that part of the story is very tragic. But in
- 39:36psychology and in specifically in the way we see Medusa's energy, in psychology,
- 39:44it's about us feeling that things are being turned into stone and stuck. But
- 39:50deep down the real reason is because we can't really reflect on that because in
- 39:55the story at the end, when Medusa was conquered by the hero person is
- 40:00Precious didn't really just to kill her. Persius used the mirror, and so
- 40:06in some version of the story, Medusa saw her own reflection in the mirror,
- 40:12and so she turned herself into some and that's how Yeah, so that's
- 40:16how she, you know, was in a way released from this curse from
- 40:22Asthena, right, and she could find her teeth. And so one of
- 40:25the things about you know, pulling out Maddusa car you can see the key
- 40:30word that I have linked to make Dousa within the guide book is reflection.
- 40:35And so usually in our sessions when we feel a client is very very stuck
- 40:39in their mind, and what we really want them to do is to go
- 40:43feel their deep reflection over their emotion. Especially what I realized about people pulling
- 40:51Medusa card is. They might feel either they're very stuck or they tend to
- 40:55have this very negative thinking, but they use that as a proof to make
- 41:01themselves feeling even more miserable. And a typical example, for example, in
- 41:07the book the case Studies that I did, was one of my clients she
- 41:12felt very stuck in love. I mean, she couldn't find love for a
- 41:16long time, and she started to put into this id in her own mind.
- 41:21She thinks of because I'm not attractive woman, I'm not attractive. Men
- 41:25don't like me anyway, So what's the point of trying? Right? Even
- 41:30if I try and they're not gonna you know, uh, let's say respond
- 41:36in a positive way, They're not going to return my affection. So I
- 41:40just I just I hate it. I don't like I don't love it,
- 41:44I don't believe in love, I don't want love, and it only hurts
- 41:46me. You know, that kind of very negative cycle, right, because
- 41:51once someone gets into that cycle, then they stop loving. But the more
- 41:54they do that, the further away they are from love. Right, So
- 42:00that's very much sort of like that kind of we are being turned into stone.
- 42:04And also we're very afraid to really gaze at law or gaze at something,
- 42:08because we wonder if I really gaze at that, then I will be
- 42:10turning into stone as well. And so for this kind of energy, I
- 42:15think for anyone who postally do some I mean sometimes you know, we all
- 42:19go through that kind of you know, stage right, because life goes ups
- 42:22and downs. But I think the most important thing is we need to find
- 42:25that shiny mirror that we have to look look at ourselves and be like,
- 42:30Okay, why am I feeling this way? Is this rational? Or am
- 42:34I just playing this negative mental game with myself? And sometimes I would even
- 42:39recommend to my client that maybe really every day in the morning, look into
- 42:45the mirror, just look at yourself and say something nice and saying something beautiful
- 42:49about who you are. Because the more you can reflect physically, both physically
- 42:54and let's say spiritually, the more you are, let's say, the closer
- 43:00you are towards breaking this this blockckage for you. And the interesting thing is
- 43:07we rarely see ourselves right in our daily life. Yeah right? Right?
- 43:13When do we see ourselves only in the morning when you wash your face or
- 43:15whatever? Right? And it's very interesting. There was one time a client
- 43:20told me that she would even avoid looking at herself in the mirror in the
- 43:22morning. Yeah, she You know, sometimes when we don't want to look
- 43:25in the mirror, what that say about us? It says to us,
- 43:29but we don't like ourselves absolutely. So sometimes reflection talks a lot about what
- 43:37is actually I don't like to say what's wrong, but it's what is lacking
- 43:42there or what we're willing to work on. Yeah. Well, listening to
- 43:45you talk, listening to you talk and you said reflection, it made me
- 43:50feel like Medusa represents what are you seeing? What isn't being mirrored back to
- 43:55you? Right? What is being mirrored back to you? So if you're
- 43:59putting out, like you said, negativity, then what's going to happen is,
- 44:01Yes, if you if you're always negative, you're going to have a
- 44:05lot of negative experiences. And if you're negative about like your one client love,
- 44:10then of course she's going to be right, right, everybody's going to
- 44:14show up to her, is going to prove her right. So what is
- 44:16being mirrored back to you? So that makes perfect sense, you know,
- 44:22when the universe is showing you right? Yeah, and I it's funny that
- 44:25you said that about mirror work, because I've talked about that in the in
- 44:30Postcards book, but also I'm working on another book, and it's all about
- 44:35mirror work and and and looking at ourselves and doing that work and saying kind
- 44:42things to ourselves instead of criticizing, because we have a tendency to look in
- 44:45the mirror and point out everything that's wrong. Right, we want to shift
- 44:50that. Yeah, we want to shift that. I love that you also
- 44:53talk about the card Orpheus and that has a significant message. So can you
- 45:00share a little bit about Orpheus? Yeah? Absolutely, Yeah, So I
- 45:02would say this is my favorite Greek hero, right, Okay, not well,
- 45:09I would say top maybe top two, top three, yeah, if
- 45:12not the pact. Yeah, so work is The keyword that I associated him
- 45:16with is a healing and Worfis is actually a master healer from Greek mythology.
- 45:22He's a musician, but he doesn't play music as an entertainer. He plays
- 45:27music to heal people's pain because his music is very, very therapeutic. The
- 45:31story about him was how he descended into the underworld to save his wife Eurotus
- 45:38due to a poisonous snake bite. But at the end of the day,
- 45:42he couldn't trust Hades. Hades basically promised him to give him his wife back,
- 45:49but only under the condition that he wouldn't look back at her, you
- 45:52know, until he reaches the sunlight. But at the last minute, right
- 45:57last second, he lost trust. He looked back. He needed that confirmation
- 46:01that his wife was actually following him, and because of that mistake, his
- 46:07wife's so dispersed into smoke, and he was banned from going to the underworld
- 46:12ever again. And I think the reason why I like this character a lot
- 46:16is because I personally and I also feel that a lot of my clients can
- 46:21associate with Worthy's story. On the surface, it was about him not trusting
- 46:25Hades, the god of the underworld, right, But deep down, I
- 46:29really feel that Hades is a symbol of our psychology because Hades is a god
- 46:34of the underworld, and the underworld is and dark, and we're so great
- 46:37to get to, right, but it's always there, the transformation of power
- 46:42that we all have. So Orf is not trusting Hades to save his love
- 46:46was about us not really trusting our own deep psychology. We don't really trust
- 46:52our intuitive self, and so we keep looking back, we keep needing that
- 46:57validation or confirmation that we are doing the right thing, that it's gonna go
- 47:01my way. But the more we do that, the less chance we have
- 47:06to manifestation. Let's say, so I really feel this orchist card is about
- 47:12releasing our fear, and it's not about the fear towards other people, but
- 47:17it's more about the fear towards we won't be able to have what we want.
- 47:22So it's you know, I love his story so much because I find
- 47:25it so deep, there's so many layers there, right, and also works
- 47:31in a different way. He was also, like what I said, he
- 47:34was a healer, but you know, after you know, the failure of
- 47:37saving his wife, he refused to marry any any anyone else until the day
- 47:42he died because he was just he was in so much pain. He regretted
- 47:46his decision, you know, looking back, right, So somehow, yeah,
- 47:51exactly. So we can also see this as sometimes a master healer or
- 47:54truth therapist have to go through their own sense of loss. They have to
- 48:00go through their own pain in order to become a true healer so that they
- 48:04can find their innate emphasis towards their patients or their clients. And that's who
- 48:12wors is So what I will also say to a lot of you know,
- 48:16people who are listening to our podcast, I feel that if you are going
- 48:21through some difficulties or challenges or lost let's say a family member and loved one,
- 48:28also see this as your own empowerment because through that painball experience that you
- 48:34yourself will find that inner healer in you not only to heal yourself, but
- 48:38you might even be able to provide a very important play, a very important
- 48:45therapeutic role to the to the people around you who you love. Oh oh
- 48:50wow, I love that. Yeah, and it's interesting too. Maybe the
- 48:53card may just be telling you be careful, don't keep looking back, like
- 48:58maybe you just need to start looking for right. So when you were when
- 49:01you were deciding to create this deck, this oracle tech and you're going through
- 49:07the stories, is that what you did? Did you go back because I
- 49:13remember some of the stories listening to talk, but it's been many years since
- 49:16I was in school learning about the Greek mythology, So you forget some of
- 49:23the stories after time? Did you, like do a lot of research and
- 49:28certain stories stood out to you and that's what made you choose them? Like
- 49:32how what was your process working to create this deck? Interesting? Is so?
- 49:37I actually I've always been writing stories. Yeah, so it's just a
- 49:42habit of mine. Yeah. So I think in when I really wanted to
- 49:45create a stack, I actually already had a lot of stories there, you
- 49:50know, just in my past writing or what in my journal, right,
- 49:53And so when I was going through on the past writing and realized that I
- 49:59could actually all those stories together and make it a very interesting a deck of
- 50:05cars, you know, or a book for people to read and to And
- 50:09I also realized that all the different stories they are, they can be related
- 50:15associated with the conslation signs, and so this could also be very good for
- 50:20astrology lovers because they will be able to understand the story from an astrological perspective.
- 50:27And so I selected those forty stories from my reservoir writing, yeah,
- 50:34and I put them together with the astrological elements. Yeah. M interesting.
- 50:39Now you also talk about, which I kind of remembered, the myth of
- 50:45Theseus and then I had to relook it up before the show, and I
- 50:50was like, oh, the sacrificing for the greater good? Right, Okay,
- 50:52So yeah, because you talk about the myth of Theseus as it's very
- 50:58good to know that story to be a stronger leader. So I'm gonna let
- 51:02you, yeah, Like, how would that relate, like for for those
- 51:07of us that want to be stronger leaders, and especially for the leaders of
- 51:12our world, right politicians, maybe they should they should read the story.
- 51:19Right. So, so what is interesting about Secy's story is that, you
- 51:22know, most people know him as a king of Athens. He was probably
- 51:27one of the most prominent heroes from Greek mythology. Uh, But what I
- 51:31understand about Secy was he was not just a king, because he was the
- 51:36one who actually you know, he was very famous for his deed, uh,
- 51:39you know, slaughtering the minotaur, the monster in the latins and saving
- 51:45you know, the young boys and young girls. Right, So you can
- 51:49tell that not only is he a king, but also he's a warrior.
- 51:53He is the one actually taking the action to save people, to save the
- 51:59kids, and he's not there just giving instructions or you do this, you
- 52:02do that, but he is actually the one doing it. And so his
- 52:07leadership, first of all, is really life in his own sense of action,
- 52:12and he's setting a great example for the people around him. And after
- 52:16he became the king. He pretty much transformed Athens in this ancient city.
- 52:22Like he was building dams, he was building bridges with together with the people
- 52:28of Athens. Right, So again, he was not really just a like
- 52:31a royalty, you know, sitting in his throne and enjoying his why and
- 52:36being okay, I'm the king, everyone respects me, please. He was
- 52:38really a door. He was once setting a great example for the people around
- 52:43him during the wartime when he was launtering the minotaur, and also during the
- 52:47peaceful time when he was really building the city. And so that's what I
- 52:51love about Cysius because I feel that, you know, he really set a
- 52:54great example to a lot of the people in modern days. You want to
- 53:00become a leader, whether you want to become a leader of a country or
- 53:02maybe you are just a let's see, a CEO of a small company,
- 53:07right, I mean, how would you like people to see you as a
- 53:09Cessius, the king of Athos in your own environment? And that's what it
- 53:14is. So yeah, so I think this he could be. He would
- 53:17be the perfect match for the conslation side of the areas. And the keyword
- 53:23is leadership, yeah yeah, and looking at what's best for the greater good
- 53:29and not the individual, which is really really interesting. I love the symbolism
- 53:32and the cards. Now tell people listening because we only have a few minutes
- 53:37where they can get the deck, and if they want to connect with you,
- 53:40if they want to work with you, what's the best way to do
- 53:45that? Right? So? Uhh, The Oracle of the Mystic Heroes can
- 53:50be purchased on Amazon, Amazon dot com, you know, or Amazon globally.
- 53:54Uh and probably you will also be able to find this, you know,
- 53:59in Parrot shops, you know, shops where you usually buy Terrot cars
- 54:02or Oracle cars. And to find out more information about about me and my
- 54:07service, you can just connect to my website www dot the Healing Kingdom dot
- 54:15com. Or you can also find more information about about me through my official
- 54:21Instagram account, which is just my name. That's how whang? Yeah,
- 54:24okay? And if people you do work with people internationally right through Skype or
- 54:30zoom or whatever however, yeah, like you could do sessions with people that
- 54:35correct? Yeah, when did I'm curious when did your deck get published?
- 54:39Was it just this year twenty twenty four? Right? So? Oracle of
- 54:44the Mysic Heroes was officially released on January than nine twenty twenty four this year,
- 54:50so just three months ago. Yeah, yeah, and a couple can
- 54:53you just name it? Tell us the name of your You have another deck?
- 54:55I saw on your website. How many other decks do you have?
- 55:00Right? So the next deck that is coming out is actually just in about
- 55:04two times. It's going to be released on June the eighth, I think
- 55:07the eighteens. For the nineteens. Yeah, my birthday called the nineteenth is
- 55:15my birthday. So yeah, okay, aw's awesome. Yeah, I'll make
- 55:20sure that you get a birthday gift from me. Oh you're so sweet.
- 55:23So what's going to be that deck is about? I'm excited? What's that
- 55:28one? It's called? Yeah, so that one is called the Oracle of
- 55:30the Celesti Deities. And what is interesting is this this is actually the sequel
- 55:36of Oracles the mythic Heroes, because this deck, right, the mythic heroes
- 55:42mainly I talked about the forty mortal heroes, right, the human stories.
- 55:47But we'll have to look out for that one. Thank you. Sorry,
- 55:52we gotta wrap it up and we'll have to look out for that. I
- 55:54really appreciate you being here with me today, guys, check out Lettawang in
- 56:00his work and his decks. All right, everyone, thank you for listening
- 56:04to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa creating the life you crave, and wishing
- 56:07everyone a wonderful week filled with joy, abundance and love. Peace,