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Patriots Catch-22 7/8: Training Camp Mailbag, A.J. Brown Impact, Will Campbell's Year Two Jump & More · Patriots Catch-22

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  Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan
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  Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex bar Bazar and Lazarre. Hello, everybody nailed it.
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  Speaker 1: and Alex Bars. This is Evan Lazar Alex Barthas behind
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  Speaker 1: So this is July one that we're recording this today.
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  Speaker 1: So if the Patriots have extended Christian Gonzalez or signed
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  Speaker 1: other business in the next week, we just wasted half. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: all those caveats out there, we're not live, and if
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  Speaker 2: Then.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, we did not know that that was gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: But what we do know is that we asked you
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  Speaker 1: guys to participate. Was some Twitter mail bag questions. I
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  Speaker 1: got a bunch of questions here, Alex that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to rifle THROUGHIP. I appreciate everybody's participation in this to
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  Speaker 1: get us going here, but some really good questions from
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  Speaker 1: the listeners. So we're gonna do a mail bag with
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  Speaker 1: all of you guys, and hopefully that fills the void
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  Speaker 1: of Catch twenty two until I get back going to
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  Speaker 1: mark this vineyard for a week and very excited about
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  Speaker 1: that recharge right before a training camp because, believe it
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  Speaker 1: or not, in this one quick aside and then we'll
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  Speaker 1: get started. You don't we worked a Super Bowl, I
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  Speaker 1: guess in twenty eighteen, Alex, is a long time ago,
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  Speaker 1: though it feels like the off season just moved so
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  Speaker 1: much quicker with the Patriots playing all the way through
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of February. All of a sudden, I woke
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  Speaker 1: up and it was three weeks before training camp and
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  Speaker 1: it's July and we're inside a month of training camp.
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  Speaker 1: So that's pretty remarkable how fast it moved. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: to your question. So this is from Robbie Ben's multiple
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  Speaker 1: Z's there again, besides Drake May, which three injuries would
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  Speaker 1: hurt the Patriots season the most? So shout out to
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  Speaker 1: Dave damashek is his Jenga tower theory. Yeah, each player
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  Speaker 1: has a Djenga piece. Some are bigger than others, some
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  Speaker 1: are placed better than others if you had to pull
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  Speaker 1: him out. Obviously, Drake May has the biggest Jenga piece.
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  Speaker 1: But who are besides Drake May your three biggest Jena
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  Speaker 1: pieces on the Patriots? Ooh, do I want me to
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  Speaker 1: give you mine while you think about it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I because he's kind of already so I don't
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  Speaker 2: really count. I would not put Landry on my list,
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  Speaker 2: but you can if he counts. But I don't put
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  Speaker 2: him there if he's not one hundred percent. I'm really
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  Speaker 2: worried about what their pass rush is, really worried. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that he's number one, but he's in my
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  Speaker 2: top three.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, So Robbie Is, I'll give you Robbi's
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  Speaker 1: and I'll give you mine, and then they give me yours.
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  Speaker 1: Robbie's has he has Hunter Henry Draymond Jones and Robert Spolaine.
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  Speaker 2: Oh so maybe Jones a better one than Landry somebody
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  Speaker 2: on the edge, So sure.
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  Speaker 1: Mine are AJ Brown number one? To me, I would
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  Speaker 1: still and maybe this is more just like based off
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  Speaker 1: of pure talent, and maybe that's not the best way
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  Speaker 1: to do this. I get there's value, but AJ Brown,
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  Speaker 1: I'm still saying Christian Gonzalez as number two, jang apiece,
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  Speaker 1: most important Patriot, and then I would go Robert Splain
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  Speaker 1: three because I don't know about what's behind Robert.
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  Speaker 2: Spolin that's fair.
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  Speaker 1: Milon Williams is close. I think that that was the
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  Speaker 1: other one I flirted with on this one, But Robert
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  Speaker 1: Splain to me is the one I definitely agree with
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  Speaker 1: with Robbie because who's.
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  Speaker 2: Playing again, nobody behind. It's a good point there. That's why. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's why I end think a J. Brown because like
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  Speaker 2: he'd be a big loss. But they do have wide
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  Speaker 2: receiver depth. I go to the edge where they have
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  Speaker 2: no depth, I go to linebacker where they have don't
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of depth, and they go to corner
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  Speaker 2: where they don't have a lot of depth.
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  Speaker 1: Fair, So you're looking at it more from a value
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  Speaker 1: stand for what's on the roster, So who are your.
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  Speaker 2: Guys one of I'll say one of Jones or Landry. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: like the top pass you can't write. You can't get
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  Speaker 2: any thinner on the edge than you are. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they lose one because it's again, it's not so much
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  Speaker 2: about that player, it's more about who's behind him. I'll
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  Speaker 2: go I'll go Robert's plain number two. Yeah, I'm between
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  Speaker 2: Gonzales and AJ Brown For number three. I guess I'll
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  Speaker 2: go Gonzalez because there's less behind him than there is
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  Speaker 2: behind Brown. I mean, look, Carlton Davis can play. It's
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  Speaker 2: more about like who's gonna be opposite Carlton Davis? After that?
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough, those are good ones. So we all agree,
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  Speaker 1: All three of us agree on Robert splain. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like that's the common denominator here. All right. Next question
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  Speaker 1: here is from David. He asks, I like this one.
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  Speaker 1: This is a good catch twenty two question. How would
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  Speaker 1: you attack our defense with our offense and vice versa?
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  Speaker 1: For example, AJ Brown on Marcus Jones and the slot
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  Speaker 1: DT's over Jared Wilson in pass protection? How would you
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  Speaker 1: reverse engineer? How would you coach against the Patriots on
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  Speaker 1: offense and then coach against them on defense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd run a lot offensively, Just to be very basic,
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  Speaker 2: I'd probably run a lot of outside zone stretch runs.
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  Speaker 2: Test those edge rushers, keep them on. It's keep it
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  Speaker 2: awayward lit right. Yeah. Basically with the Seahawks, I was
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  Speaker 2: gonna say, and then turn that into play action bootleg
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  Speaker 2: and send aj Brown over the middle and send Pop
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  Speaker 2: Douglas over the middle to catch and run. So that's
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  Speaker 2: what I would do on that side. On the other side,
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  Speaker 2: how would I attack the offense? Honestly, just I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: say with the Seahawks, just replicates Yeah, that's on, And
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, pressure up the middle, yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: take away the deep ball and four Strake made a
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  Speaker 2: dink and dunk underneath for for the whole way on field.
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  Speaker 1: Totally valid the Patriots defense. I think the one thing
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  Speaker 1: I would attack in the middle of the field is
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  Speaker 1: their past defense in the middle of the field. I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm much more interested at throwing at the linebackers in
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  Speaker 1: safeties and and Carlon Davis and Marcus Jones. So I
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  Speaker 1: still feel like if you're if you're taking the Patriots offense,
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  Speaker 1: their backs Hunter, Henry Romeo Dobbs or aj Brown out
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  Speaker 1: of the slot, whichever one you think is primarily probably Dobbs,
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  Speaker 1: those guys. Getting those guys matched up on the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: linebackers in safeties, splaying byered, you know, those types of players,
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  Speaker 1: I think is where you want to be offensively. Defensively,
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  Speaker 1: how you know, I would you know, attack the Patriots offense. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I guess Seattle's blueprint is kind of where it's at.
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  Speaker 1: Because until they prove that they can kind of pick
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  Speaker 1: up some of those more exotic pressure looks and stay
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  Speaker 1: out of third and long and do that sort of thing,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be how teams are going to attack them.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to try to heat up Drake May, They're
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  Speaker 1: going to try to send pressure from different places to
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  Speaker 1: Drake May, take away the deep ball for some underneath,
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  Speaker 1: like those are gonna be all of the boxes. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: basically what Seattle did from both sides of the football
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  Speaker 1: almost like the Seahawks were well coached team like that
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  Speaker 1: won that game pretty easily. That's a good question though.
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  Speaker 1: I liked that one as a catch. Twenty two question. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, this one is from aj I Key had
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  Speaker 1: a list of like ten of these. I widdled onto
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  Speaker 1: a couple ranked these scenarios from most least likely, most
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  Speaker 1: to least likely. Will Campbell ends the year as a
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  Speaker 1: top ten tackle, he said tackle, So I want to
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  Speaker 1: say left tackle. Make it a little bit easier because
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  Speaker 1: they don't have to include all the right tackles too.
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  Speaker 1: Traveon Henderson is RB one over Remandre Kyle Williams wins
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  Speaker 1: the wide receiver three job. So I would say if
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  Speaker 1: I had to rank them from most to least likely, Henderson, Campbell, Williams,
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  Speaker 1: That's how I would have it.
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  Speaker 2: From most to least. I just it's Josh McDaniels. The
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  Speaker 2: RB one thing doesn't exist. How many times we have
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  Speaker 2: to go over them, that's fair. And Stevenson is the
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  Speaker 2: guy that can handle more volume now, especially the early
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  Speaker 2: down volume. Right now. Henderson might be the guy you
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  Speaker 2: go to, and it didn't work out this way last
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  Speaker 2: year because his pass blocking wasn't there. He might be
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  Speaker 2: the guy you go to in the more high octane situations,
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  Speaker 2: the two minute drill and things like that. But I
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  Speaker 2: still just I think the premise is flawed in asking that.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a lot more likely Kai Williams wins
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  Speaker 2: the third wide receiver job than it is or what
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  Speaker 2: was the Will Campbell One doesn't top tackle top ten
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  Speaker 2: tackles the opposite Okay, never mind plays a tackle really well? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: top ten left tackle or call it even if they
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  Speaker 2: move in the right, even if something happens when they
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  Speaker 2: move and right. I think he can be a top
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  Speaker 2: ten tackle on whatever side he's on. Maybe not top five,
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  Speaker 2: but top ten. Who'll be somewhere in that range.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a top ten tackles hard because you
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  Speaker 1: start to add all the right tackles into the lane.
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  Speaker 2: Johnson, well, I think among the left tackles last year
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  Speaker 2: before he got hurt, if we just go by pressure
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  Speaker 2: rate on PFF, he was fifteenth. He was right in
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  Speaker 2: the middle right, So can he You know, that's not
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  Speaker 2: that much of an increase to go to fifteenth to tenth.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough, Henderson, I don't think seems that feels whatever
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  Speaker 1: you want to call RB one what it is. I
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  Speaker 1: assume every time.
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  Speaker 2: I get that question about Travon Henderson, I assumed his
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  Speaker 2: asked through the lens of fantasy football, of course, So no,
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  Speaker 2: he's not there is never going to be. Josh McDaniels.
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  Speaker 2: Regardless of who the backs are. Josh McDaniels is just
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  Speaker 2: never going to run an offense where one of the
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  Speaker 2: backs gets like seventy percent of the touches. That's just
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  Speaker 2: philosophically not what he believes in based off everything I've
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  Speaker 2: ever seen him do. He's never said that to me,
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  Speaker 2: So this isn't me reporting it, but just off of
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  Speaker 2: what almost twenty years of data, Like the Cory Dillon
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  Speaker 2: offense was not McDaniels. He was here, but he was
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  Speaker 2: not coordinating it, and that was Corey Dillon. That's probably
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  Speaker 2: the best running back the Patriots have had.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of like volume. You know, there was
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  Speaker 1: a year there where Dion Lewis was just.
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  Speaker 2: Neil Lewis was like talented.
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  Speaker 1: Even the Garrett never got work because Vereen and Shane
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  Speaker 1: and James Whitewath.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So I just the idea that Josh, if it's
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  Speaker 2: asked through a fantasy football point of view, no, Trayvon
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  Speaker 2: Henderson is never going to be a bell cow back
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  Speaker 2: because Josh McDaniels is never going to have going to
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  Speaker 2: as long as McDaniel's years, would say, Trayvon Henderson is
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  Speaker 2: never going to be a bell cow back because that's
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  Speaker 2: not how they operate, so that that one's not gonna happen,
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 1: Next question here is from mister ed. He's asking, looking
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  Speaker 1: at the trading camp roster, what position group are the
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  Speaker 1: straints and which one to need some help? So I
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  Speaker 1: would say ed rusher needs some help is the category
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  Speaker 1: that I think ye, I would say sneaky or not
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  Speaker 1: so sneaky. But behind ed drusher, tight end I think
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  Speaker 1: is another one.
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  Speaker 2: Only tight end sneak anymore. I think enough people pointed
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  Speaker 2: out I'd say edge, rusher, tight end, and linebacker are
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  Speaker 2: probably the three where they could use the most.
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  Speaker 1: Help, especially after the Julian Hill injury. Y.
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  Speaker 2: I would say the strongest I assume we're doing besides quarterback. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: they're strongest. Position groups I would say are receiver yep,
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  Speaker 2: I agree. Defensive tackle it's a good one. I almost
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  Speaker 2: want to say offensive tackle.
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  Speaker 1: It is unbelievable that in just a short period of
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  Speaker 1: time that of the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: I would disagree short period of time. Are you gonna
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  Speaker 2: say tackle, No.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying where they've been over the last handful of years,
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  Speaker 1: In just a short period of time, wide receiver. I
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  Speaker 1: think the best position group on.
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  Speaker 2: The Yeah, no, it is wide receiver defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like it's been a decade since I've been
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  Speaker 1: able to say anything close to.
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  Speaker 2: That, you know, the Edelman Cooks, we never said it professionally. No.
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  Speaker 1: So the Patriots, I'd say their their best position group
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  Speaker 1: right now on the roster is certainly their deepest wide receiver,
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  Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. Yeah, it's pretty crazy, I'd say so.
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  Speaker 2: The other one, I'd say, I'm between offensive tackle and safety. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 2: their running back room is pretty good too.
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  Speaker 1: I guess offensive tackle they got three if you assume
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  Speaker 1: that low MoU can play. They got three quality.
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  Speaker 2: Offensive between Marcus Bryant Dimetri's crown over. I think they
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  Speaker 2: got a couple of decent projects too, for like a
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  Speaker 2: swing tackle kind of guy.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, good question. This one's from Keith. I
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  Speaker 1: like to know why Milton Williams and Christian Barmer aren't
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  Speaker 1: being taken into consideration with the pass rush. Aren't they
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  Speaker 1: two quality players that will gardner inside pressure to make
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  Speaker 1: up for the lack of edge pressure. I kind of
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  Speaker 1: agree with the premise.
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  Speaker 2: That last point is the difference, though It's football at
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  Speaker 2: its core is about manipulating space. We're gonna be really philosophical, right,
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  Speaker 2: we just did, And it's just the manipulation of space
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  Speaker 2: of the rusher is different coming from the outside versus
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  Speaker 2: on the inside. It's like when we used to talk
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  Speaker 2: about the Patriots don't have an elite wide receiver, but
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  Speaker 2: they have Rob Gronkowski. Rob Gronkowski is great, or the
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs with Travis Kelce like those last couple of years
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  Speaker 2: after I held right gravity, right, It just the impact
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  Speaker 2: is different coming from that position, coming from where that
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  Speaker 2: guy physically lines up on the field. So those guys
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  Speaker 2: are really good, and they're really good pass rushers. At
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, a premium edge rusher is
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  Speaker 2: just different for what he does for you schematically, unless
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  Speaker 2: it's like Aaron Donald. Maybe Gronk was a bad example, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and even Aaron Donald the Patriots, you look at what
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  Speaker 2: they did in Super Bowl fifty three. Right, it's easier
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  Speaker 2: to throw assets at that guy. You can always hold
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  Speaker 2: that guy up, not all.
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  Speaker 1: I always shouldn't say always. You can almost always double
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  Speaker 1: an interior player, right. The center can pretty much always
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  Speaker 1: open to one guy on the interior right, so they
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  Speaker 1: have two which helps. Yeah, I agree with the overall
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  Speaker 1: premise of the of the question. Note, I do think
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  Speaker 1: that that interior pressure can push the quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: If we talk about the Patriots' ability to rush the
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  Speaker 2: pass or overall, they should be included. I assume this
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  Speaker 2: is about the conversation we have last week about Daniel
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  Speaker 2: Jeremia's twelve killers.
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  Speaker 1: That's part of it. I also think that the general
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  Speaker 1: consensus is that people are worried about the pass rush. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and within that, I don't know if Milton Williams and
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  Speaker 1: Christian bar Or do get taken into account enough all
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking out and I'll put Harold Landry in this category. Two.
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  Speaker 1: There's three guys, Achis Landry, Draymond Jones. Can one of
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  Speaker 1: those guys just clean up the trash? Right? If Milton
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  Speaker 1: Williams and Christian Barbe and you know the other guys,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Robert Splaine, maybe safeties get involved in the
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  Speaker 1: pass rush blitzing. However they cook up the pressure to
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  Speaker 1: get the quarterback to hold the ball or move off
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  Speaker 1: his spot or whatever the case may be. Can they
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  Speaker 1: get one of those guys kind of like Chase on
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  Speaker 1: was in the playoffs last year to just clean up
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  Speaker 1: clean up crew. If that's all they need. They don't
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  Speaker 1: need that guy to be Miles Garrett. They don't need
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  Speaker 1: Draymont Jones to be a fifteen to twenty sack guy.
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  Speaker 1: They need him to be like a ten sack guy
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  Speaker 1: that just is there to bear hug the quarterback when
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  Speaker 1: he comes to his direction because he's getting chased by
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  Speaker 1: Milton Williams and Christian Barmore. So I do understand the
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  Speaker 1: premise of the question. I understand your point as well.
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  Speaker 1: There's things that you can do with an edge rusher.
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  Speaker 1: You can chip them, you can leave a tight end
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  Speaker 1: in if you really are worried, you can go six
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  Speaker 1: offensive line and leave alignment in there. But you are
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  Speaker 1: really taking resources away from someplace else to double that player,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's the back being late to get into the pattern,
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  Speaker 1: the tight end staying in rather than releasing into a route,
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  Speaker 1: all those different things. On the interior, you can just
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  Speaker 1: slide the line half slide towards Milton Williams and now
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  Speaker 1: he's doubled. Done right, You know? Those are the differences
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  Speaker 1: I would say, is it's less resourceful to be able
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  Speaker 1: to double those guys good question. All right, next one,
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  Speaker 1: so we have along the same lines. This is from
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  Speaker 1: our friend Boom eight zero, five, one seven. I like
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  Speaker 1: the ones with the numbers. I feel like everyone is
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: sleeping on Elijah Ponder. What is realistic? You're too late
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  Speaker 1: for him. I'll tell you one person who's not sleeping
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  Speaker 1: on Elijah Ponder. That's our friend Taylor Kyle. I'm I kid,
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  Speaker 1: I kid, But Elijah Ponder, what's your realistic? Your two
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  Speaker 1: for him? He had four sacks slash year, was kind
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  Speaker 1: of involved in some of those pass rush packages.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: He'll be more involved. I still think he's probably situational
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: pass rush. He's not a guy you want playing every down.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Does he get that up to like five or six sacks?
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I could see it.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm somewhere in the middle of you know, not
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: having any expectations and where you know Taylor might be
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: with Elijah Ponder where yeah, like five or six sacks
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: and like a useful rotational rusher. I think it's a
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: good ceiling. Let's not not trying to belittle him or
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: anything like that. But this was an undrafted player, so
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get too crazy about my expectations
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: for him. But somewhere around there, I think is fair.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: This is from Ben's gott tweets, who is involved in
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the show quite frequently, after Barmore, Williams and Spalane, which
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: front seven defender will play the most snaps in twenty
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: twenty six Front seven defender, I'd say Draymond Jones, Barmore, Williams, Splaine, Yeah, probably.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I think Christianelli's honorable mention in this category. He's probably
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: gonna be the primary week sidelinebacker gets displayed, so as
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: long as he doesn't get hurt, he's gonna play a
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: whole lot. But I think that that if I had
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: to guess, I'd say Jones. I don't think Jones coming
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: off the field. No, if he's healthy, I think he's
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: playing a lot of snaps this year. Next one, I'll
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: sticking with the edge rusher theme. Can you recap the
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Gabe Acis situation? And how worried on the scale of
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: one to ten are we about gab Acus? So I'd
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: say quick recap. Gay Accus gets drafted by the Patriots
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: in the second round. He reports to rookie Mini Caamp.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: He's physically out there for rookie Mini Caamp, but not
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: participating in rookie Mini caamp. Then we start to hear
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: rumblings about potentially hamstring injury from the pre draft process.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Mike Reese had a litany of injuries that it could
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: be right and a piece that he wrote with some
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: reporting on it. As of July first, he remains unsigned
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: on his rookie contract. He also did not sign a
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: PARTI patient agreement to even practice while they're negotiating the
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: rookie contract. On a scale of one to ten, how worried?
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I think my answer is I have two different answers
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: for this question. Yeah, how worried am I about Gay
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Bacchus in twenty twenty six for his rookie season six,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: six or seven?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: How worried am I for his career in the NFL?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Like two? Two or three or three? Yeah, I'm probably
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: with you on that he's going to be behind. He
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: missed important time. It's all like he's been in the facility.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: It sounds like he hasn'tven been with the team, so
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: that that feels notable. I think ultimately he stills enough
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: talent that that once he gets on track, he'll be good.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: But it's just a matter of how behind is he
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: going to be getting on track?
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah? And look, you know there's some element and I
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: know other people have said this, there's a sea ball
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: get ball element to that position. It's not receiver where
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of chemistry with the quarterback. It's not
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: a corner, not even necessarily where I think that there's more,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: you know, communication middle of the field players like safeties
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and linebackers where there's a lot of communication involved. Basically
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: with Akis, it's at my box in the edge or
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: am my spill in the edge?
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Am I trying to push the ball back inside? Or
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: am I trying to push the ball outside? Am I
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: rushing the passer?
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: There's not a whole lot of mind games. I guess
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: that go on it. But he's got to get up
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the speed and he's got to get in the rhythm
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: and he's got to get his feet under him. In
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the NFL, and we see rookies have slower builds, especially
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: second round picks, Like this is not a guy that
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: was drafted in the top ten, top twenty of the draft.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: This is a guy that was fifty fifth overall. I
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: still am cautiously optimistic that he's going to contribute as
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: a rookie. But I thought maybe he would push to
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: be a starter as a rookie Overpatcher too.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: But now maybe that's not going to happen.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's not going to happen. Now, all right,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: this one's from Brady. He says, given the roster stands
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: right now, are you confident with the safety and linebacker
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: rooms for the Patriots. I'm a little confident in safety.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I feel okay about safety.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Wo's in byered, Mike Brown's had a nice spring.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Mike Brown's nice spring. Delt Pattis is you know, if
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: he's your fourth safety, Yeah, that's fine.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Linebacker is a fair one.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: You know, you have.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Spallaine and Ellis that you feel pretty good about. But
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I don't really think Ellis is anything super special as
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: a player, but good enough. And then behind that, it's
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of question marks. You know, is kJ Britt
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: going to replace Jake Jack Gibbons and really be that
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: utility man that's a third guy if they're you know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: primary backup type of player. And then the next question here,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I guess we can combine the questions, which rookie linebacker,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: not edge rusher, but pure linebacker has the biggest chance
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: to make an impact. There's only two nom the awesome
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I or or Khalil Jacobs. So kind of goes hand
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: in hand with linebacker. Like if one of those two
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: guys steps up behind kJ Britt becomes the fourth guy.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe we give a little bit of love to Chad
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Muma here as well. You know, maybe he's in the mix.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: But how do you feel about that linebacker? And I
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: agree with you. At safety, I think I think they
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: got ye know you how many teams go for deep
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: at safety?
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: You know, right? I think and look, we know that
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: if they need Brandon's schooler in a pinch, he can
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: give him a couple of snaps over the course of
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: the year. So sure, I think they're okay. Yeah, linebacker,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think Splain and Ellis is a good duo.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: It's just what's behind him. If kJ break can pick
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: up where he got hurt the spring, yeah, I mean,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I think he can be what Jack Gibbons was. Ideally
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: they would have upgraded there. But okay, or at least
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: level from last year. I we love Chad moom in
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: that draft we did. Is there something left there to
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: tap into? Maybe I'll be interested to see I'll admit
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not as high on Obiser. I think he's more
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: of a pure special teams player. It's a little undersized,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: and Kleil Jacob is probably just a special team or two,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: so I don't think it's a rookie year.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Looking for at linebacker, this seems like a position and
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I thought maybe this would be the draft, but they
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: ended up taking Lomu and kind of taking that insurance policy.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I'd tackle at some point, I would love to see
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: them take a top one hundred pick at linebacker, and
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: they haven't done it in like a decade. I think
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I think High Tower might be the last one that
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: they picked a top one hundred linebacker, like pure linebacker,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: you know, off ball linebacker, right, not rusher. I know
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: it's a devalued position. I know that a lot of
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: people look at it that way, but I do think
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: that they're getting to the point where they have some
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: luxury picks to make, where the roster's in a much
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: better position, much better shape, where they don't need to
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: take premium position, premium position, premium position.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Wit weeks.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe an off ball linebacker that can be like the
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: next Roberts Bulan and be a real dude.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: There weeks the last linebacker period they drafted before non
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: dbi Izor.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Juwan Bentley.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Uh no, there's one other, a couple in between. Okay,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: there's two between CAMMC Groan, Camera Groan in twenty one. Yeah,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: my guy, this guy didn't even make the team.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Love Cammcgron Cash Oh yeah, Cash Mallowia. He played next
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to somebody.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Where do you go, Wyoming, Wyoming?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: It was Wilson. Luke Wilson, right, Luke Wilson.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think it. I think it
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: was Chad Muma.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: No, he played next to somebody that was better than him.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was Chad Muma. Was it?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Chad move?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Here was another linebacker in that draft from why oh no,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Muma was twenty two.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: He was on the Cowboys last year. Wilson.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's was that Logan Wilson.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Logan Wilson, Thank you, Logan. Luke Wilson is the actor.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Logans, Yeah it was. It was Logan Wilson, right,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: And then before Luke Mallowey in twenty twenty, they took
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Jawan Bentley and Christian Sam in twenty eighteen. Christian I
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: had some Christian Sam Stock landed Roberts in twenty sixteen. Yeah,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I don't even remember Matthew Wells. Then you go back
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to like Jamie Collins and on to High Tower. They
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: could use it Jamie Collins or done Brandon Spikes. They
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: had a little bit of a linebacker on at one point.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: All right, next question here, Luke Wilson's that's gonna crack
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: me up. That's good. That's good. That's how you know
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: it's July first.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're on the third hour of doing this.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Luke Wilson instead of Logan Will this is from Bryson.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: We all know Bryson, he said, asked one of the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: odds that Caleb Belomu becomes a starter in twenty twenty
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: six So, I don't know how what scale we want
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: to put this on.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I think there's sentence he starts a game like, are
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Morgan Moses and Will Campbell both going to start seventeen games?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: The odds of that are incredibly low. Most teams have
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: to I think I haven't done the numbers from last year,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: but in twenty four I think it was only like
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: six teams. Yeah, had the same starting tackles for all
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: seventeen games, so he probably will start games, become a starter,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: like beat somebody out for that job. I think low.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not ruling it out with Morgan Moses if he
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: has a just unbelievable camp, but I think he becomes
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: like an established full time starter in twenty seven. But
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: do you think he starts games in twenty twenty six?
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: So it's good. It's a good distinction.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: To me.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Saying that Kayleb Looman became a starter means that he
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: overtook somebody and actually became a starter. That as a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: very low percentage chance. Yeah, five to ten. Let's put
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: it at he is gonna have three opportunities to start games,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: both tackle spots and I also put left guard in
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: that category. Two. If Elijah Ahratucker misses any significant amount
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: of time, I'm of my thief theory on that is,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: if Elijah Veritucker misses a half, if he misses a game,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I think that's Ben Brown. I think Ben Brown makes
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the spot start. If Elijah Vira Tucker is going to
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: miss a month, two months, eight weeks, six weeks, something
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: like that, I do think that Caleb blom who would.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Get that opportunity at guard.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Interesting that they were playing him at guard in the spring.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: A couple of times we saw that. I think that's
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: where they would turn if it's a long term injury
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to Elijah Hratucker, if he has another season ending injury.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: But I hope doesn't happen. But we're just playing theoreticals here.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: If that does happen, then I do think they would
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: call on Caleb Blowmoho full time over a guy like
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Ben Brown who's more of like a super sub spot
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: starter than like a long term starter there. But the chances,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you know, if they put it on a percentage chance
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: that Caleb Bluemo beats out Campbell or Moses or something
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: like that to be a true starter in twenty twenty six,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I put that as almost zero.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I think it's low.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, this is from Claire. Hello Claire, Congratulations
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: to the Lions to England. We just watched them beat
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the Congo.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: By the time this air, they're gonna already have their
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: game against Mexico.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, sorry, Claire, hope it goes well.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: For you guys in Mexico. That's a tough one.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: As a US fan, I probably roo for England in
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: that one. But that one's tough. But yeah, we just
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: saw Harry Kane savior butts Claire, so congratulations on that.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: What do you guys think the Patriots do to replace
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Julian Hill? You know Claire was going with the tight ends, Alex.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Does the Gilliam signing cushion that enough or is there
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: a worthy free agent tight end to sign? I think
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: this is one of the more fun questions, because this,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to me is one of the more pressing questions with
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: the team right now. Are they a John new Smith team?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Are they a whole trade team? Like, are they really
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: looking to add a significant piece at tight end or
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: are they just looking to add a body. Mike Rabel
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: made it clear they're gonna add somebody at that position.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think there's a chance they wait and
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: see what they have. They add somebody to the back
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: of the roster. Tanner, Arkin and CJ. Dupree battle it
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: out for the third spot. If they don't like what
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: they see, then it's like a I still know about
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: John who Smith just we've seen him and Josh mccaniels. Yeah,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's changed. I think Josh John Fitzpatrick
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: makes more sense. Will Disley. If he's healthy, I'll throw
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: out Mercedes Lewis again, that kind of more true blocking
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: tight end.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the Will Disley shout. That one to
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: me is I think an interesting one. The only difference,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: little difference that I would say with John and Smith
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: this time around, is they're not going to pay him
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest free agent contracts of the It
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: wasn't the.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Whole problem the last time that they tried to use
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: him as an inline blocker. Enough at it.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: It was just a whole system fit issue. So what
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: do you.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I don't care how much to pay them.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: My point about the payment is more so there's less
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: pressure on him to succeed, right, But we just when
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: they brought him in twenty twenty one, there's a lot
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: of his.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Skill set does not align with what he's gonna do.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: It doesn't do in this system.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: He's a straight line linear athlete. Run cross or this way,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: run the cross or that way, run a team up
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the you know, up the numbers. He is not a
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: get to the top of the route, find the soft spot,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: get to the top of the route, cut off of
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: leverage like that's Hunter Henry right, That's not his game.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: That's why it didn't fit. It was less so about
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the blocking, in my opinion, and it was more so
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: about the route tree. He just didn't fit well in
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: that with all the option routes and the stuff inside
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: the formation of the Patriots run. He didn't fit well
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: with that particularly Well. He's the best player available.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I would they find like a Dwayne Allen type.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: So maybe that maybe that's your guy, Mercedes Lewis at
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: forty years old or whatever.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: You can still block.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's Will Disley somebody like that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Or or do you try to get one of the
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Rams tight Ends.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was one of those guys. But you we're
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: both of the school thought that the tight End Edition
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: is going to be a name we know, Like, I
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: don't think this is going to just be a scrap
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: heap guy.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I know see this thing. I don't think so, at
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: least not initially. Okay, I think they're gonna let the
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: kids play it out, and then if they don't like
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: what they see, then in mid August we maybe get
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: the name that we know.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott type thing. Yeah, gotcha, all right, fair enough?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: This is from Cheese Burger posse.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Excellent.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I like a good cheeseburger. You know you're not a
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: big cheeseburger guy, like you like burgers without the cheese. Yeah,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I guess that's what are your toppings on the burger?
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I mean it depends what kind of burger, But like,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: are you like a bacon guy as you go? Yeah,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: lettuce either grilled or either grilled onions or like those
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• 29:49
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• 29:52
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• 29:55
  Speaker 2: making it on my own. Mix A one sauce in mayo, Okay,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: And what I'll actually do if I'm really treating myself
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: instead of putting bacon on the burger, mix a one
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: sauce in mayo with some bacon bits mixed in and
• 30:08
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• 30:18
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• 30:21
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• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I stumbled on the A one one because I was out.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I was in like high school, so I should say
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: my parents my mom was out of barbecue sauce, but
• 30:32
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• 30:34
  Speaker 2: and I don't know that there's something about that that
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: takes it to another level. But you can totally do
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: barbecue sauce and mayo, mix some bacon bits in really
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: good burger topping.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not as good with hot dogs.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I'm a mayo and barbecue sauce combo condiment on a burger.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do either one individually, bacon sauce.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I'm always good. Cheese, you know, dairy free cheese, you
• 30:54
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• 30:59
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• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I don't go over the top with the burger. I don't.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I really liked it. Some of the flavor was unbelievable
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: in some of them, but it was like a one
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: time if.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like in the mood. I've probably had it like
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: three or four times in my life. Like, if I'm
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: in a certain mood and I'm at a place where
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: i know it's gonna be good, I'll get it. But
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: you're making me hungry, I know, all right, are you
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: a ketchup on hot dog guy? Ketchup and mustard ketchup and.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Mustard dot combo.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's weird. I don't like mustard. Not
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: a mustard guy, mustard guy. You don't like honey mustard?
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Not really. I don't know why I don't like mustard.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: The honey mustard is great, right, you know you know
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: a place is great honey mustard, like legendary honey mustard
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Where town.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Spot, of course?
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you mock it what I do. It's a it's
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: a it's a pizza like bar pizza staple. Is it
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: around here?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in Stoton.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Stoton, all right?
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: So you know there's Creston the ice cream place.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, great.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Wardsberry Farm is a big one too.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: For the gonna make sense to me, I have one
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: path to. I'm just saying town. If you want like
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: good south Shore bar pizza town spas up there that
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: is that is as good as it cats for for
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: bar pizza.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I just like to tease because everybody that's like als
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: from Sharon, everybody that's from this this area talks about
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: town spa like it's you know, like pizzeria Regina or
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: something like that, like it's the best pieces they've ever had.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: So I just like to tease them, like you go
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: to the to the yeah frow with spas around here,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: but yeah spa al right, cheeseburger posse. Does Land Larison
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: make the team? This is my guy Land there, Larison Island.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I still put Larison on the team as of right now.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I was a little underwhelmed by the spring. I'm not
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: gonna lie. I wanted to see a little bit more
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: burst and explosiveness, a little bit more pass game ability
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: than what we saw. But I still would say right
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: now that Larison's the favorite favorite in the clubhouse to
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: be the third running back with Would you agree with that?
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, based on what we saw this spring. I also
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: just think he has good special team's ability, which is
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: what's ultimately going to get that role won. Yeah, so
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I'll I lean Larison right now. But I'm very lightly
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: putting that in pencil. I'm hardly writing that in sharpie.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: All right, similar question about a similar kind of Red
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Shirt player. This is from U Batter Batter.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Let me guess either Brock Lampy or C. J. Deprie.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: No close, though, Brayden Swinson yeh, he's.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Gonna have to make the team. Now, don't enough edge rushers.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Braiden Swinson heading into camp? Where where is our meter?
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Braiden Swinson?
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Just in terms of players we're watching, Braiden Swinson is
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: gonna have a spotlight on him because we don't know
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: where you know, we know if he's on the field,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Accus will be behind at least if he's on the field,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: we don't know where Lander will be. So it's Draymond Jones,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Elijah Ponder, who's probably aroational player, and then who.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Sama Jones, Elijah Ponder, Harold Landry.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Right, But Lander and Akis are question marks.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: So then the fourth guy comes down to So the
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: so Swinson Q Hutchins.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Obviously they drafted late Xavier Holmes, Amari Gainer, Jesse Luketta.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: They need Swinston to take a jump and look a
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: different coaching staff. But we saw Josh Huche kind of
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: do it. We saw Anthony Jennings do it. It can
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: be done. Ed rusher is not one of those positions
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: like wide receiver. If you don't produce as a rookie,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: you kind of write the guy off. But you know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: where's my confidence level? The whole thing on him coming
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: out of college that we heard was it was a
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: coachability issue. That's why he fell in Jaredy. We heard
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Mike Smith and Mike Rabel, but really Mike Smith rave
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: about how his approach has changed, his mentality has changed
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: coming in this year. He has the talent. We know
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: he is the talent. If he really has kind of
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: changed his outlook and maybe last year was a wake
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: up call for him. He ends up on the practice squad,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: he gets passed by an undrafted guy, and Elijah Ponder,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: if that's the wake up call, I'm you know, then great,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: then he's gonna put the work and he has the
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: talent he can play. I'm excited. I think he's a
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: really exciting opportunity for him, and excited it as somebody
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: follows the team knowing the talent that he's gonna be
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: given this opportunity. But I gotta see it.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Maturity questions coachability is a good one, just sort
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: of understanding how to be a pro, how to be
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: an adult in this world. Those types of things are
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: focus like you know, all that kind of stuff and
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: everything in the spring. You know, I know that everybody
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: is in the best shape of their life.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: This time of year, Alex.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: But everything in this in the spring has been positive.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: On the Brandon Swinson front, it'd be interesting to see.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's still a young guy. Turns
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: twenty four on yeah, Saturday, four July. That points out
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to me a little bit with his rush is that
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: he's a little linear. He's a little stiff and robotic
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: with his rush, like I wish he was a little
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: bit more fluid. It's kind of like, you know, if
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: you can bind him and Q Hutchins together. Q Hutchon
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: has the bend in some of that twitch to his movements,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: but maybe not quite the size that Aden Swinton has.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Braden Swintonson's a little bit stiffer. So I'm interested to
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: see if you know, how many does he have sort
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: of that twitch and the bend and you know, that
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: pure speed ability to kind of compliment some of the
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: other tricks in his bag to be a more well
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: rounded guy. Those are all things that I think, you know,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Braden Swinton needs to prove this summer. But I kind
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: of he's sort of not the forgotten guy, but just
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: a guy that was so behind the scenes last year
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: that we really just haven't seen him since training camp
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: of last summer, so it'll be interesting to see a
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: couple more than we'll wrap it up. This is from
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Pat's May one two three. How should the Patriots use
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Travon Henderson next season? And do you anticipate an increase
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: in production after losing steam a bit towards the end
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: of the season. The biggest thing for me with Travon Henderson.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people talk about his consistency
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: as a runner. Can you hit more singles and doubles
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: instead of just the home runs as a runner? I
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: actually don't really care as much about that element of
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: it because I think that he's always going to be
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: a big play runner. I'm more interested in can he
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: take a next step in the passing game? Can he
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: be a better pass blocker? Can he be a better
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: route runner? Can he be a real impact player as
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a pass catcher. Because he's got the break, the speed,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: and the explosiveness to be a real game breaker as
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: a receiver out of the backfield, But the pass blocking
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: didn't translate as a rookie from the college to the pros.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Couldn't stay on the field for that reason, I'm less
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: concerned about the fact that he's got a lot of
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: like zero and one yard runs and then a bunch
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: of seventy yarders. I want to see him round out
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: his game as a pass catcher. That's the type of
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: player that I want him to be as a big
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: play guy. Can we hit him on some wheel routes.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Can you get him up the seam. Can you get
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: him on a screen coming out of the back of
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Remember that Screeny caught at Ohio State in the College
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Football Playoff. He took it like seventy yards. Can you
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: do some more of that kind of stuff and round
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: out of his game as a pass catcher. That, to
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: me is where the year two loop could really come from.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: For trade. I'm with you getting him involved in the
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: passing game, but it's going to have to come with
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: pass blocking, and I think that's why he didn't get
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: as many opportunities there last year.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: It's funny because I remember that I bring this up
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a couple of times, so I'm sorry if I keep
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: repeating it. But last summer we were in Minnesota for
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the joint practices against the Vikings, and he caught a
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: wheel route down the sideline and team and eleven on eleven,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: it's like a sixty five yard touchdown on a wheel route.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: All twenty two guys on the field, Josh McDaniels, Brian
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Flores all looked at each other. We all looked at
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: everybody and was like, whoa, did you see how fast
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: he was moving? Holy crap. I mean he had to
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: have been touching twenty two miles an hour he was moving,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: And I just want to see more of that this year.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I get what people are saying that they would like
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: to see him be more consistent as of between the
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: tackles runner. I don't know if he's ever going to
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: be that guy, but if you want him to be
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Jamior Gibbs, if you want him to be that kind
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: of player, it's the passing game that needs to come along,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: in my opinion. Last one here, let's do two more,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: both kind of related, just to wrap this up, just
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: so we get to these things.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Alex.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, resetting our thoughts on both the Kaishon Booty situation
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: and the Christian Gonzales issue.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Now we're really testing this pre recorded thing because.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: We're testing fade a little bit. Yeah, that's why I
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: saved him for the last one. Okay, so if I
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: if so.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: If these both already happened, thanks for watching.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Thanks for watching.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: We'll see it for training.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Kishon Boody. My opinion on Kaishon Booty, and I'm going
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: to cross sports here for a second, so stay with me.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: This is a little bit like Jalen Brown to me, No,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: not really if Kishon Boody had a market and I
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: was crazy about the trade market, where like I felt
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: like they were going to get this great return back
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: from kash for Kaishan Boody. Let's say somebody who was
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: dangling a third round pick Keeveon Thibodeau in a package, done.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Do it right, I would just do straight up.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: But I'm not trading Kishon Boody just to trade Kishon Booty, Like,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing that just to trade them. And so
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: my opinion on this has maybe changed a little bit
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: in that respect. I think that Kaishon Boody's been available.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I think Kashan Boody was available last offseason. I think
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Kishon Boody was available this offseason, and they just haven't
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: gotten a return that they feel comfortable with. So I'm
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: not setting them out just to trade them, you know.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: So if they bring all these guys into camp, and
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: even if they bring all these guys into the season,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: there will be a time when a team gets desperate
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: and comes calling about Kashan Boody, whether it's at the
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: end of camp, the trade deadline, whatever the case may be.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: If until that point comes, I'm hanging on.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not in a rush to move them by any means.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I'd bring him in to camp, but I think when
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: you get down to fifty three, that's carrying a lot
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: of wide receivers and it's gonna be a weird dynamic.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: You have a guy that needs to get out there
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: and make plays in order to earn money, and you
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: may not be able to give him that opportunity. Unless
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Evan, unless you think there's a way
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: where they can run heavy eleven personnel with brown daubs
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: and Booty.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: There's always a way.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: It's not their way they can do that, and like
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: actually be competitive.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: It's not the best way to me because there's not
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: speed on the field.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Right So I would still try to move him by
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: roster cuts. I think if you get a fourth round
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: pick for him, even if it's like a fourth for
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Booty and a six a pickswap thing. I think that's
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: ultimately a win because you talking about the value, and look,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I think he's a good player. He's never had more
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: than six hundred yards. He is essentially a rental or.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: You need to give him a new contract, so all faint,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I would I'm not giving him away. I wouldn't trade
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: him for a seventh at that point. I'd wait and
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: you know see, but I think it's really tough to
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: justify keeping him on your roster once you get to
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: the fifty three man cut. I don't know there's anything
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: wrong with bringing him to camp. I don't think you
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: have to do it by then. Like if you're telling
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: me which needs to get done first, Gonzales easily obviously
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: that one has to be done by by the first
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: padded practice. I think if Booty hangs on through August
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: and then maybe a team gets to roster cuts and
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: guys gotten hurt and suddenly there's more of a market,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: it's worth carrying him through camp. That's we talk about
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: this a lot when people get mad when they sign
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: like a second long snapper something in the summer. Ninety
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: players is a lot one, right, is a lot of players. Yeah,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: and there's not that many available this time of year,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: because again, every team can keep ninety players. If that's
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: how you're using your ninetieth spot to keep kish On
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Booty ones heve his trade value goes up, that's a
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: perfectly good and that's not he's the ninetieth player on
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: the roster. He's better than that. But that's a perfectly
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: fine use of one of those roster spots at this
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: time of year.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you that long term, it doesn't make
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of sense, especially because they're not going to
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: sign him to that second contract most likely, so it
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: makes more sense to get what you can. I just
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: think that if they had an offer that they felt
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: comfortable with, he would already be traded. And the fact
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: that he he hasn't been traded tells me that the
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: offers aren't really out there for him, right, And I'm
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: not just giving them away. So my guess is, and
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: it's just a guess that they're getting offered like six
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: or seventh round picks for Kaishan Booty, right, which I'm
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: not doing. I'd rather just maintain the depth and figure
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: it out and make it work. But I I if
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: the team comes calling. I think a fourth round pick
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: is probably where I would start to be okay with it.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Then I still like if they can increase their linebacker death,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: they'd increase their edge depth tight end. I don't know
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: if the Rams would want to move him for one
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: of those tight ends. I still think a player for
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: player trade would be best though.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, last one here a Christian Gonzales. Where do we
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: think this gets done? When do we think this gets done?
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Hopefully it doesn't get done. Well, hopefully it does get done,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: but if it has already happened, then just again, just
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: move along. But where do you think that this ends up?
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I think they ultimately get it done. I think that
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: you just can't claim to be a draft and developed
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: team and not extend a player like Christiannzalez is this
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: he is the blueprint of what you're trying to make
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: your organization, and he's the beginning of that pipeline. Right.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: He's drafted before Drake May. So I think they got
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: to get it done. Maybe it lingers like a day
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: or two in a camp, but I think they get
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: it done by call it August first.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm cautiously optimistic that this gets done, but by
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: the time padded practices roll around, which should be that
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: second week technically of training camp somewhere around August first,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: there's a five day ramp up period and then you
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: get into the padded practices. I'm consciously optimistic that this
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: leads off training camp in a positive way, that they
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: can this deal done. That would be great vibes. I
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: think coming into training camp that they took care Christian
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Zales and that's all behind them, you know, wuzzled something
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: that lingered a little bit over the team in the
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: spring certainly, So hopefully both those things resolve themselves. Thank
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: you so much for submitting those male bad questions. We
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: really appreciate that. So you're listening to this on July eighth,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I will be back on July twenty second, when I
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: come back Alex for our first live show from my
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: vacation here will be two days before they yeah, three
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: days before the Patriots first training camp practice. Officially, we're here.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: We made it almost Also, that'll be episode two hundred,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Episode two hundred, so that'd be a big day. I'm
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: going to enjoy the next couple of weeks, though, I'm
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: gonna enjoy not being here. I think you guys have
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: all heard my voice plenty two over the last year.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I think it's good for all of us to maybe
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: take a break for each other for a little bit.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: But I'll see you guys in a couple of weeks
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: with training camp right on the horizon. See you guys then,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: thanks for watching.
• 45:07
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• 45:09
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• 45:20
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