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#266: Longlegs (2024) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  Hail Satan. Welcome.
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  What's your least favorite scary movie?
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  The podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly and
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  the absurd and all of our. Favorite and least favorite
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  scary movies Because we believe every horror movie rightfully
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  has its fanbase even. If we don't always get.
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  It my name is Travis. My name is Jesse and we just
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  wanted to wish a happy almost birthday to the almost birthday
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  girl. We're talking about long legs.
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  Oh, oh God. I was like, is this somebody's
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  birthday? I was really confused there for
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  a second because it is actually our it's Tally's birthday today.
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  It is day of recording. Yeah, 316, Yeah, OK.
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  I don't have any announcements. Not that's good because I don't
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  have a poll result. OK, I'm sorry, I forgot to do a
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  poll. I it was it's been a weird.
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  It's been. So yeah, just unfortunately
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  didn't get around to doing that. But you know, I feel like we
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  made-up for it with the extra fun we had with last week's,
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  which was the unhinged playlist. Yeah.
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  Maximum Crover. Crover Verse.
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  No, you'd none of that came out correctly.
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  Maximum Krover drive. There you go.
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  There we go. Yeah, that's right.
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  It's. A Krover verse.
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  That's like the multiverse. I don't.
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  Think. So, well, not yet.
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  You got to have the next one and then the end credits.
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  He'll come in and be able, you know, he'll be angry at somebody
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  new. That's how that works.
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  Yeah. But yeah, sorry, don't have any
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  polls. So yeah, we're just going to be
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  going right on into long legs this week, I believe.
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  Right. Well then, let's just go right
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  on to it. OK.
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  Long Legs premiered May 31st, 2024 at the Beyond Fest with a
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  wide release of July 12th, 2024. We watched it on Hulu, but you
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  can also stream it on Disney Plus, or you can rent it from
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  Fandango at home, Google Play or Prime.
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  Written and directed by Osgood Perkins.
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  Music by Zilgi. And if you're wondering if Zilgi
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  is a pseudonym, of course it is. It's a pseudonym for Elvis
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  Perkins. Elvis perk?
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  Is that like a relative? I'm assuming Brother brother.
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  OK interesting. I didn't know people were still
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  named Elvis these days. Well, he is special effects
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  coordinator was Sheila Erdman starring Mika Monroe's Agent Lee
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  Harker, Nicolas Cage's long legs, Blair Underwood is Agent
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  Carter, Alicia Witt is Ruth Harker and Michelle Choi Lee as
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  Agent Browning Travis. Time for our favorite game
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  budget. I believe this is a budget.
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  Do you believe that? Yeah, yeah.
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  I believe it's budget, yeah. I actually do not have a solid
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  budget. What it is officially listed as
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  is less than $10 million. Is it really like they know our
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  game, they subscribe? Is F you?
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  It is firmly bugged head. I feel like that was
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  specifically from Nick Cage. OK, wow.
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  I'm I'm shocked that it's below 10 million.
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  That's surprising. Opening box office of 22.4
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  million in a worldwide gross of 100 and 20 million a. 120 it's.
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  Either 124 or 126. I clearly tried to write over
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  one of those numbers that I can't tell you which one won.
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  It's ambiguous, like the budget. It's intentional by design,
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  people. Listen, I'm within 2,000,000.
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  Yeah, OK. Current IMDb score is 6.6 out of
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  10. OK.
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  It's held a pretty high one then, I guess, yeah.
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  OK, theme for 2024 that I pulled is deals with the devil.
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  Now this could be metaphorical or otherwise.
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  OK, so I know at least one of the movies.
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  Is gonna be there. Limber up and get ready for some
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  stretches. Really.
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  Wait, we know what the devil's got to be here, right?
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  No, that was 23. It wasn't it.
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  Technically it premiered in 24 in theaters, but I think it's
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  actual initial release is 23. Yeah, I don't really remember.
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  OK, well, all right. Well, hit me with the first one.
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  OK, the first one is heretic. OK, OK.
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  Yeah, you kinda. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I don't wanna you. Can't go too hard into that one
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  without spoiling anything, but I could I guess maybe, I don't
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  know, like when you decide. People need to warm up, limber
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  up. We're stretching.
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  That's a really fucking good movie though.
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  It really is. It's on Max now.
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  If you have Max as a streaming service, absolutely highly
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  recommend it. Hugh Grant is a force and I love
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  Sophie Sophie Thatcher, but I'm obviously a little biased
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  because I'm a big Yellow Jackets.
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  Fan yellow jackets, yeah, I have no experience with her in that,
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  but I thought she was fantastic in that movie too.
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  Hubert is the star though. He sells that fucking.
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  Thing He Really Does That. Released November 8th, 2024, it
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  had a budget of 10 million, a worldwide gross of 58.8 million,
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  and an IMDb score of 7.0 out of 10.
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  Damn good. Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, that was a shocker. That one was a lot better than I
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  was anticipating. This next one is one that we
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  still haven't actually seen yet. I know, I know, shame on us,
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  slap on the wrist. But from what I understand,
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  there's like a deal with like maybe a capitalistic devil type
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  of thing and this would be the substance.
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  Yeah. OK, I know some some wheelings
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  and dealings and backfiring and stuff happens.
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  OK, yeah, I still have stayed as much in the dark on that one as
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  possible. Yeah, I, I from the from the
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  bare bones amount that I know about this movie, it it seems
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  like she makes a bad deal. There is a deal made, yes, it
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  could be with the devil. We do not know for sure yet.
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  A devil of sorts. Yeah, that released September
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  20th, 2024. Budget of 17.5 million Worldwide
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  Gross of 77.3 million of 7.3 out of 10.
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  Wow, so you've just got like a batch of really highly rated
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  movies too. I do, I do.
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  This third one is one that we actually just watched very, very
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  recently. And I'm gonna say that this is a
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  deal with like modern tech age devil.
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  OK. It's what's inside.
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  Oh, is that the? Oh yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, they, they body switch with some technology.
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  Yeah, that's not really a spoiler.
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  It's in the trailer. This it's.
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  Straight up the entire thing, yeah.
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  Yeah, it's actually, it's a really good movie.
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  It is a really good movie. We didn't know what to expect
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  going into it other than the trailer seemed interesting and
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  we like a couple of the cast members that we recognized so we
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  ran with it. Do you highly recommend it?
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  That released October 4th, 2024. I'm pretty sure it's like a
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  Netflix. It's Netflix, got the
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  distribution board, Yeah. I don't know if they funded it
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  or not though. Yeah I don't think it's not
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  listed as like a Netflix original, but it does look like
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  it went straight to streaming. So no budget or gross for it,
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  but it does have a 6.6 out of 10 on IMDb.
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  OK, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a pretty
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  interesting movie. I definitely recommend it.
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  Yeah, it's it wasn't what I expected it to be, but I still
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  had a really good time with it. Those stretches weren't too bad.
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  I was expecting some like real reaches there, but I could get
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  where you're going with that. Yeah, yeah.
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  OK. Tag lines.
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  Yeah, none. None.
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  There there are no tag lines. There's no tag lines, no.
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  Tag lines. Dude they like they marketed
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  this thing so hard but they couldn't even do A tag line.
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  No tag. Line Well, what do we do now?
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  Do we? Just like in the episode.
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  Well, I'm gonna say it makes our job a lot easier when we come up
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  with our own tagline at the end. Yeah, I guess that's nothing to
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  compete with. That's true, yeah.
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  I mean, we'll win by default, I guess.
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  OK, well then let's. Yeah, let's have some fun then I
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  guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do have a
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  few fun facts, OK. This is the highest grossing
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  independent film of 2024 Oz Perkins's highest grossing film.
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  Not sure if that's still true. If they're the monkey, I would
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  have to pull up the numbers for that to compare.
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  While you're speaking, I'm gonna pull up those numbers, OK?
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  And this was Neon's highest grossing domestic film, so that
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  makes sense. It was quite, quite a hit.
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  Quite a hit. Yeah, I mean, it fucking did.
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  Waves. I remember that.
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  OK. So the monkey were worldwide
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  gross. As of now, it's still is doing
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  its run. I believe it's 54 million.
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  OK. Yeah.
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  No, this is still very much higher.
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  Yeah, OK, maybe it's just the monkey who is just such a hit
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  with us that I can't imagine it not being a slam dunk success.
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  Well, long legs. I know it had a lot of hype.
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  It had a lot of hype and I think it got its theatrical release
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  like extended multiple times. Yeah, yeah, there was a lot
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  going for it. The monkey, you haven't really
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  heard as much buzz about it amongst other people that
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  outside of our group. Yeah, people, that's true.
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  I forget that. Like dark comedy is alienating,
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  Yeah. Yeah, well, I've spoken to a lot
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  of people at work. I work with some like people
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  very plugged into horror. And I brought up the monkey
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  like, yeah, really fucking good. And they're like, Oh yeah, well,
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  I know it's the guy that did the long legs and I didn't really
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  like that movie, so I'm not gonna watch.
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  That oh dude, you all if you feel that way, it is so totally.
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  Different it is. Yeah, Way, way way.
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  Different almost hard to reconcile that this is the same
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  man who did long legs and black coats daughter that's.
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  What I told him it's like stylistically, if you like the
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  way long legs are shot, the monkey will be good for you too.
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  But it's a completely different movie tonally.
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  Yes, if you also like to have fun while watching movies, yeah,
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  you will enjoy it. Absolutely.
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  So one of the very like loose inspirations for this movie was
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  actually this kind of dark. So maybe like true warning the
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  murder of Jean Benign Ramsay a while ago because one of the
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  gifts she was she had that have been purchased for her for
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  Christmas that year was a life-size doll that was wearing
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  one of her old pageant dresses. That is creepy as fuck.
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  That's real. Why the fuck would they do that?
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  Those are real things. I had a doll like that.
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  What? Yeah.
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  You had a doll dressed as you? Yeah.
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  Was it named Jesse? Yes, it was.
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  Would it not be Jessica? OK.
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  Don't. Don't do that.
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  Don't do that. It's just we're already at the
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  weird. That's the part that makes it
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  weird. Calling it Jessica.
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  Yes. OK, get the fuck.
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  Out but like my mom sent in like head shots of me to make sure
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  that the doll like matched me and it came with a dress and
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  then a Jessie sized dress too so that way we could wear matching
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  dresses. That's so fucking creepy.
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  That is so weird. It, I really think it's like an
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  80s and 90s thing. It's got to be I, really.
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  Do it needs to stay there I. Wouldn't get it cuz you're a
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  boy. Well, my, I had a sister and we
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  didn't have anything like that that I know of.
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  Maybe there's like. Even Nate dolls in the
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  mountains. Maybe they're like, my parents
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  were like, all right, let's shield this from Travis.
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  So he's really sensitive. Yeah, they can't.
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  Wait for tells and they're like, it has to stay out, Yeah.
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  He's really fucking dumb. Like he'll think it's actually.
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  Just yeah, like when were there 2 of you?
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  Maybe there was like times I was actually like interacting with
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  my sister and it was just like a dog.
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  I thought they're. Like Travis, you never actually
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  had a sister. Yeah, he's been installed this
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  whole time. Like my our nieces and nephews
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  are just like tiny old babies too.
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  Like old tiny dolls. We're all just like they're
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  constantly swapping out the older tooth, like bigger and
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  bigger dolls. That's why.
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  That's why the younger nephew is so quiet.
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  Yeah, I'm keeping. I am keeping an extra eye out
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  for any weird details next time I visit home.
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  Anyway, that dog was found like 15 feet from her murdered body
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  to get back to the less funny. Oh my God, okay, wow, okay, we
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  brought it back down there. Yeah, so I was like, you know,
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  that was just a really creepy fact that stuck with me, and I
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  filed it away for later creative use.
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  I'm glad that he also found that creepy and upset.
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  He was also partially inspired by his mother hiding his
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  father's sexuality from, like, the general public, plus also
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  the children of the family, including, you know, him and his
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  siblings. He said your mother can protect
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  you from a truth that she thinks is unsavory.
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  So I think that's kind of, you know, a, a challenge that a lot
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  of parents face is like, what? When do I tell my children these
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  harsh truths of the world, if ever?
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  Like what? What is the line of protecting
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  them? Yeah, yeah.
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  That's. OK, which you can definitely see
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  that theme in this movie. Definitely, yeah.
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  Principal photography occurred from January 16th, 2023 to
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  February 23rd, 2023 in Vancouver.
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  There was a He says that he likes to use female protagonists
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  in a lot of his movies, which you see up until the monkey,
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  generally a female protagonist. And says he likes that because
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  he inserts a lot of his like real life experiences, traumas,
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  things like that. And having a female protagonist
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  as an air of mystery and gives him what he refers to as a
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  useful distance from the subject matter at hand.
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  Oh, Stephen King, completely different.
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  There is also an interview with Osgood Perkins in the Deadline,
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  and he said that the producers actually had him add that scene
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  at the beginning where Fisk gets shot after Harker has that,
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  like, sense that, like, the guy we're looking for is in this
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  house because initially it cuts to her doing that, like, ESP
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  test or whatever. Really.
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  Yeah. And the producers are like, hey,
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  we need something that shows that she like really is like
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  extra special. Wow.
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  You know, that's one time where I would say producers were
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  right. Yeah, and he even said, he said
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  it was just, it was an amazing addition.
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  It's one of those things that you don't get if you're just
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  looking at your stuff on your own.
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  Yeah, for sure. Because I mean, I remember
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  watching that the first time, whenever that happened, it kind
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  of caught me by surprise. And then there was another
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  really interesting quote that I found that I liked a lot.
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  And this is just him talking about, like, about Alicia Witt's
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  character, you know, and what she's doing to try and protect
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  Lee Harker. You got it exactly as her
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  character is intended, which is to say that you do what you got
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  to do. Mama bear will do the thing that
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  she has to do to protect the baby bear.
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  It's just innate. It's just spiritual biology or
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  whatever you want to call it. It's instinctual.
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  And she says toward the end of the movie, I did it for you.
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  And that makes it right. And for her, there's no argument
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  around that. It's like I had a choice.
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  I could either hurt a bunch of people or let you be hurt.
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  And for her, there's no choice there.
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  Does that make her bad? Kind of.
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  Does it make her an ideal mother?
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  Absolutely. So I think anytime you're able
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  to exist in the dichotomy of something or exist in the binary
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  truth of something, that a mother can be both the creative
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  and destructive force. God, people have plenty of
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  those, right? Oh, my mother who made me is
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  also the person who destroys me the most.
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  That's a common occurrence. So I think that when you're
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  writing these things, creating things or working your way
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  through things, the acknowledgement that there are
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  polls and that both of the polls can be true at the same time is
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  more interesting than being like, let me tell you, let me
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  explain to you. It's always this.
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  There's space in that. That's interesting.
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  I, you know, like hearing his explanation.
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  I I get where he's coming from with a lot of this.
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  It's kind of like a trolley problem type thing there.
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  Yes, and it's definitely it's, you get those shades of the
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  trolley problem too, where it's like, you know, the one person
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  on this track and the five people on this track are the
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  ones you don't know. That's the current trolley
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  problem that the mom is at. Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah. However, at the end of the
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  movie, she doesn't have to continue yet she does.
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  I think that's what makes her a bad person.
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  Yeah, I think, and I think it's, I think it's really interesting
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  that he says like, she's a good mother, bad person.
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  Yeah. And I think that's an
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  interesting way of thinking about it.
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  And I think it also says something about him processing
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  some of his own childhood stuff. That makes sense, yeah.
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  So those are the facts I have, OK?
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  Which means that we're ready to go onto our good, bad, ugly and
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  absurd. Okie, dokie.
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  All right, I kick it off. Yes.
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  OK, so this was watch #2 for us. So we watched it the first time
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  and I, I came out a little bit disappointed.
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  So I was really eager to do a second watch.
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  I think a lot of people I agree with, they were a little bit
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  misled with the marketing of the movie, which not necessarily the
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  movie's fault, it's the marketing team's fault.
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  They built it up to be more focused on like a serial killer
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  type thing, which is not exactly what we got.
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  So I had to readjust coming in with new or adjusted
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  expectations. It got me to appreciate a lot
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  more of the movie. So I think the the setup is
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  incredibly interesting. I like how everything begins
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  there. So we get this agent that you
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  have with psychic abilities and they get it like right there out
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  the gate. You're already introduced to the
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  threat right away too, like the guy getting shot.
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  I like that she's psychic, but she doesn't really see it that
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  way. She just thinks she's like,
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  really intuitive and she won't let people necessarily say she's
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  psychic, you know? And she even points out she's
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  like I get it wrong too. Yeah, like half second.
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  Yeah. You know how they kind of refer
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  to it there. But yeah, no, like, I think the
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  characters and the mystery presented immediately is really
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  strong. So it's a great start.
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  I think the acting was really good.
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  I think Monroe does like a very good job herself, especially.
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  She has, like this very like, stiffness to her, which she
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  never feels comfortable in her skin and you can tell.
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  And there's something that's never quite right with her.
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  And I think it's like her battling the shit that happened
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  in the past and then not really ever processing it or knowing
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  about it really. But it's all kind of
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  subconscious there. Well, and he even said that in
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  that interview with Deadline that, you know, because that
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  doll still existed up until her mom shot it.
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  Like those memories were held captive basically.
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  So she was. Missing part.
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  She is essentially missing that childhood.
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  She's very disconnected from the concept of childhood because of
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  that. Which, yeah, I mean, I think she
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  does a great job getting that across with how she performed
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  perfectly. I was able to appreciate the
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  occasion a little bit more this time around too, because I
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  wasn't looking for him this time.
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  I think the semi allowed long legs to just be and that made
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  the character a little bit more disturbing this time.
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  Like I I allowed myself to be a little bit more immersed in the
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  movie instead of like looking at it as a movie itself.
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  I think the cinematography is good.
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  The thing that it does really well in this is that everything
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  is shot super wide, so it basically invites you and
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  encourages you to assess every aspect of that frame because I
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  never noticed the devil was behind her throughout the
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  entire. Of as often as the devil is
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  there. But you pointed that out last
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  night and then I started looking and I saw it so many times which
• 18:55
  that added a whole new layer. But even before then, I was all
• 18:59
  like, my eyes are always roaming, which with how
• 19:03
  everything is in this movie, it kind of helps build that sense
• 19:06
  of dread. And you know that something is
• 19:08
  gonna be out there creeping around and you're looking for
• 19:10
  it. And just like, even whenever you
• 19:12
  don't see it, sometimes that makes you uneasy because you
• 19:15
  know something's there. So I think like that's like most
• 19:19
  of the good stuff that I like this time around with it.
• 19:24
  Yeah, I definitely like I and we've got definitely this
• 19:29
  religious element to it, right? And it there is a supernatural
• 19:32
  piece and the movie is never shy about that.
• 19:34
  It's pretty explicit about it right from the front.
• 19:36
  But I also do appreciate that it's a crime thriller.
• 19:39
  You can definitely see the influence of The Silence of the
• 19:41
  Lambs with this, which he even said, you know, he was like, he
• 19:45
  loves the 90s. You start with a concept that's
• 19:48
  really well known, Silence of the Lambs female protagonist
• 19:51
  chasing a bad guy. She's got a special sense for
• 19:53
  these things. And then you kind of take the
• 19:55
  story and you go from there, and you can definitely see that in
• 20:00
  this movie. I think Micah Monroe, she's just
• 20:04
  so great at giving this, like, vulnerability, but also like,
• 20:09
  I'm going to do what I fucking need to do.
• 20:11
  Yeah. I think she's really great at
• 20:13
  that type of a character. And it's always a pleasure
• 20:16
  watching her on screen, for sure.
• 20:21
  This is kind of an ongoing thing.
• 20:22
  So initially when long legs. Was, you know, announced you
• 20:27
  really wanted to see it? I didn't really care too much
• 20:30
  about it. I'm I've got complicated
• 20:32
  feelings about Nick Cage as a performer.
• 20:34
  We've talked about this some on the show.
• 20:36
  I'm not going to rehash that. I'm coming around on certain
• 20:40
  types of roles for him. So there was like one afternoon,
• 20:45
  we had some time. I felt like going to a movie.
• 20:48
  I was like, hey, let's go see long legs.
• 20:49
  I know you've been wanting to see it.
• 20:51
  I went in fully expecting Nick Cage to do as Nick Cage does.
• 20:55
  Yeah, and that's what I got. Yeah.
• 20:58
  You, on the other hand, were very upset.
• 21:01
  OK, I wasn't very upset. I was just a little bit let down
• 21:04
  because it wasn't what I was expecting it to be.
• 21:06
  But I still acknowledge it was a good movie at the time.
• 21:09
  But it wasn't what I wanted, yes.
• 21:12
  So I just think that was kind of funny that we had those two
• 21:14
  weeks. Yeah.
• 21:15
  Going into it where he was this time, watching it, going around,
• 21:18
  I was looking for Nick Cage to be Nick Cagey, and I just saw
• 21:21
  the character of Long Legs. Yeah, isn't that weird?
• 21:23
  Yeah, 'cause that's exactly what happened to me too.
• 21:25
  Yeah, and I think there's something, this is one of those
• 21:27
  movies that has that rewatch ability element because you know
• 21:30
  what's coming and you can look for different things, you can
• 21:33
  look for those layers, different, different readings on
• 21:36
  something. So I think that's another really
• 21:38
  great thing about this movie. Also, like Agent Carter's
• 21:43
  family, like seeing them and you want to root for them.
• 21:47
  And the daughter is just so frank.
• 21:50
  And you know, I just, I really, I really liked that a lot.
• 21:54
  Yeah, OK, All right, so some bad stuff.
• 22:00
  I this is this is one of the things that I see a lot of
• 22:04
  people complain about that I actually agree with myself.
• 22:06
  And I feel like it would have been like more to have like long
• 22:09
  legs actually be more involved with the stuff.
• 22:13
  The whole part, like the whole thing of the movie is he just
• 22:16
  makes these dolls basically and just gets them into the house
• 22:19
  and that's it. That's all he does.
• 22:22
  I was really expecting them to be a more involved, like hands
• 22:25
  on type of like serial killer type guy.
• 22:27
  And you know, I have a little bit more interactions with his
• 22:30
  victims type thing. Like I wanted to see that.
• 22:32
  I wanted to see more things like that scene where he goes into
• 22:35
  the store and interacts with that girl and freaks her out
• 22:38
  because that was interesting to me.
• 22:40
  And like seeing him just like listen to rock records and like
• 22:44
  making dolls in his basement wasn't as captivating.
• 22:48
  So yeah, that's one of the things that I would have done
• 22:51
  differently with this. No, that's pretty much it.
• 22:54
  That's pretty much the bad I have with this movie.
• 22:56
  I mean, really, there's not much else that I didn't really care
• 22:58
  for. But that was my biggest take
• 22:59
  away the first time too, because I wanted him to be more
• 23:01
  involved. OK, I I thought maybe the ending
• 23:09
  would feel less frantic and confusing this time around.
• 23:15
  Oh yeah, it's kind of. But it's still that, like, all
• 23:20
  the way up until the ending, everything's pretty
• 23:22
  straightforward, you know? Even like, whatever your
• 23:25
  feelings are about the supernatural, the movie makes no
• 23:28
  like, ifs, ands or buts about it.
• 23:30
  Supernatural is real and accepted in this universe,
• 23:33
  right? But then we get to the end and
• 23:35
  something just feels off, you know, because it's like the mom
• 23:39
  says something about like, oh, the wife is already dead and the
• 23:42
  daughter will be soon. But we still see the wife
• 23:44
  sitting there. Are we seeing a flash bag?
• 23:46
  Is that happening? You know what I mean?
• 23:47
  Like, I think she was speaking like they were already consumed
• 23:50
  at that point. So she was speaking like we can.
• 23:54
  It's basically like things are already in motion.
• 23:56
  We can kind of speak, you know, a little bit more bluntly about
• 24:00
  what's happening here amongst ourselves.
• 24:02
  They are under a spell right now.
• 24:04
  They can't really do anything. See, and I just, I don't, I
• 24:08
  don't really like it because the rest of the movie wasn't as much
• 24:11
  as like read between the lines and interpret it for yourself.
• 24:15
  Whereas this moment is. And it just feels, I'm not even
• 24:19
  as bothered as much by the exposition dump because I don't
• 24:22
  really feel like it's that much of an exposition dump.
• 24:24
  Like we've gotten a lot of those pieces.
• 24:27
  The mom's just like weaving it together for us.
• 24:30
  Yeah, I guess. It's just that ending at Agent
• 24:33
  Carter's house is a little bit unsatisfying for me.
• 24:37
  Yeah. I mean, isn't it all so weird
• 24:38
  that like they're focusing on the dot, like the birthdays this
• 24:44
  whole time and then his daughter has a birthday on that day,
• 24:47
  especially the day that they're like missing and he's not at all
• 24:52
  drawing any connections to that? Yeah, that he's not at all
• 24:57
  concerned about it. I Yeah, I I don't know, but do
• 25:00
  you want to hear something kind of creepy?
• 25:02
  What? My original due date was January
• 25:05
  14th. That.
• 25:06
  Would have been creepy, yeah. I just came a couple days early.
• 25:10
  Well, so you were saved. You were this close to being
• 25:13
  it's. Close it was almost long legs.
• 25:15
  How do you feel about the whole thing with like people putting
• 25:18
  like him putting orbs in like that dolls head And that's
• 25:21
  basically what it is. It doesn't.
• 25:23
  I've heard a lot of people complain that that's like a a
• 25:25
  weak point too, which to me it's whatever.
• 25:28
  It hasn't that that kind of goes on into what I was saying about
• 25:31
  long legs. Like OK, he puts a ball on a toy
• 25:34
  and then they they get it inside the house and then boom.
• 25:37
  It's like a it's a piece of magic.
• 25:38
  The movie is very upfront about it.
• 25:40
  I accept it for what it is. It can be upfront about it but I
• 25:43
  can still find it disappointing. I can accept it and still be
• 25:48
  like OK but I wouldn't like more.
• 25:50
  My thing is that even if this was a completely grounded in
• 25:55
  like our physical realm type of movie, if there is no
• 25:59
  supernatural element to it, I think it would be really hard to
• 26:03
  explain the lack of evidence at all of the crime scenes.
• 26:07
  You know what I mean? So I'm I'm willing to suspend
• 26:11
  whatever feelings I have about that and just go along with the
• 26:14
  ride for it being what it is. OK, it's not the worst really.
• 26:19
  I like the idea of something corrupting a family and like,
• 26:23
  you know, making them kill each other type thing.
• 26:25
  But it's like pick one, like have it be that and focus purely
• 26:32
  on that. And instead of like giving us
• 26:34
  like this like serial killer that they're investigating.
• 26:36
  But he's not really a serial killer after all.
• 26:38
  I mean he is a Satanist and they address that multiple times so.
• 26:43
  Yeah, like the whole time it's like leading you up to believe
• 26:46
  that he's responsible. Like, how the fuck is he killing
• 26:48
  these people? He's never there.
• 26:49
  There's no trace of them. What is he doing?
• 26:51
  Oh, he's not actually doing anything at all.
• 26:52
  OK. Yeah, but that's what I'm
• 26:55
  saying. Even if he had actually been
• 26:56
  doing something, there would have been more evidence and it
• 26:58
  would have just been like, it would have felt like a cheap,
• 27:00
  like sloppy police work type of thing.
• 27:02
  Could but then again, we've introduced supernatural
• 27:04
  abilities in this right here. That could be something and also
• 27:08
  there is a thing. I mean, that's a we listen to an
• 27:11
  up true crime. Yeah, but the supernatural
• 27:13
  ability like him corrupting the families, that is what the words
• 27:17
  are like. It's an element of the devil
• 27:19
  that's controlling the family. Yeah, no, what I'm saying is
• 27:22
  like, you know, even in real life, we've listened to enough
• 27:25
  cases where they couldn't find any physical evidence at all
• 27:28
  anyways. Yeah, but that was, you know,
• 27:32
  there for there to be 10 cases and there are no sign of any
• 27:38
  type. That's not a fishing.
• 27:40
  Killer. I just, I just don't buy it So
• 27:44
  and I think a lot of people would have had problems.
• 27:45
  I'm saying that there's no way that this would have been a
• 27:47
  fully satisfying ending for anybody.
• 27:50
  You set up to perfect of a killer, and nobody's gonna be
• 27:52
  happy with the conclusion. And maybe, yeah, maybe.
• 27:57
  What is your ugly? Let's see his way of interacting
• 28:01
  with young women, like that scene in the store.
• 28:05
  Like I said, the way that he, she's like, Dad, the creepy
• 28:11
  guy's here again, like he just makes them feel uncomfortable
• 28:15
  and creeps them out and he talks to them like little babies and
• 28:18
  stuff, and it's just so uncomfortable.
• 28:22
  Another is like the fact that Harker had to kill her own mom
• 28:26
  at the end of the movie, that nobody ever wants to do
• 28:29
  something like that, even though she had it coming and she
• 28:31
  deserved it. So sucks.
• 28:34
  Yeah, it's, it's upsetting. Yeah, I definitely something
• 28:39
  about that young girl working at the family, a hardware store and
• 28:44
  long legs coming in, and just in the fact that this isn't the
• 28:46
  first time he's done it and a little girl just has to keep
• 28:49
  putting up with it. Yeah, there's something that
• 28:52
  hits so true to life with that. I wish she didn't do the normal
• 28:56
  customer servicing where she's like having to appease him.
• 28:59
  She actually just straight of called him creepy like right
• 29:02
  there to his face. So I just, yeah, that's, yeah, I
• 29:08
  guess also the very LAX visitation roles at the hospital
• 29:13
  where Carrie Anne's at, the fact that anybody can sign in under
• 29:16
  whatever name. I like the the way that guy
• 29:18
  addresses that it's. Like.
• 29:21
  You don't take IDs here. No, that would be a great.
• 29:24
  Idea yeah. There's something about like
• 29:26
  that's, you know, you've got vulnerable people in this
• 29:31
  setting and it seems like you would want to kind of vet the
• 29:34
  people who come to visit them. You know, I, I know a lot of
• 29:37
  places, at least now they check to make sure that the person
• 29:40
  getting the visitor even wants the visitor or even that
• 29:43
  specific visitor. And they also make sure that
• 29:46
  they're in a good place to handle a visitor.
• 29:49
  You know, the fact that somebody can come in and sign in under a
• 29:53
  name, a fake name, just it's a bit icky to me.
• 29:56
  Yeah, also if I saw that guy wondering in there asking to see
• 29:59
  her, be like, hold on, let me see if she actually wants you
• 30:02
  first. Yes, exactly because.
• 30:04
  You're really strange. Exactly, right here with your
• 30:08
  hands over your eyes all upwards, being all weird.
• 30:13
  OK, absurd. Well, First off, Carter, forcing
• 30:17
  Harker to go inside his home and meet his family in the most
• 30:21
  forced way possible. She is so uncomfortable that
• 30:25
  entire time and like, everybody's just kind of going
• 30:27
  through the motions, and she feels obligated to do all of
• 30:30
  these things, I guess because it's her boss.
• 30:33
  I think he wanted her to go there because he wanted his wife
• 30:35
  to know this isn't somebody I'm cheating on you with.
• 30:37
  This is like my agent. I think it was also kind of it,
• 30:42
  it kind of felt like a vet bringing in a rookie and trying
• 30:46
  to get them to understand how, like, their work family is going
• 30:50
  to be kind of a family. Because sometimes you are up
• 30:53
  late together going over a case and you need to be comfortable
• 30:56
  enough with one another. It could be, yeah, that's kind
• 30:59
  of the sense I got from it. Because she was like, do I have
• 31:01
  to? And he was like, yes, but it
• 31:02
  wasn't like, I'm telling you to because I'm your boss.
• 31:04
  It was more like he was you need to be able to talk to other
• 31:08
  human beings. When they were rolling into the
• 31:09
  driveways like, ah, shit, the lights on, like he's like, well,
• 31:12
  I thought I was hoping I'd be able to sneak in.
• 31:14
  But now that she's here, I need to bring somebody here to be
• 31:16
  like, you know, be my alibi as well.
• 31:19
  No, I think it was very much a like, I'm going to come in late
• 31:25
  smelling of alcohol. I want to show that I have
• 31:27
  arrived, but I also want this person to like meet my family
• 31:30
  and interact with other human beings.
• 31:31
  Could be not just be nose on the case files falling asleep on the
• 31:34
  office floor surrounded by photos of dead people.
• 31:37
  Yeah, that's that's fair. The next one is the fact that
• 31:41
  they performed an autopsy on a doll.
• 31:44
  Is this a thing that happens every time a mysterious stall
• 31:47
  was found in a crime scene? That a medical examiner needed
• 31:50
  to do. Yeah, what is he doing?
• 31:52
  And he seemed excited about it. He seemed like this is new.
• 31:55
  Like he's, he's a coroner, but also like he's a doll hobbyist.
• 32:00
  And they're like, they're like, we're not bringing this to you
• 32:03
  as an Emmy. We're bringing this to you as
• 32:05
  Ralph. You know Ralph, who likes dolls?
• 32:08
  Yeah, he was giddy about the whole thing.
• 32:10
  Just like it's got a ball in its head, guys, y'all, It's got a
• 32:13
  ball. Carrie Anne's dialogue, that was
• 32:21
  probably one of the weakest moments for me.
• 32:23
  Yeah, you've brought it up yourself, but like, listening to
• 32:25
  it again here, it seems so forced.
• 32:27
  Southern. It's like, it's like how
• 32:31
  somebody who is writing a book would write somebody speaking
• 32:34
  very Southern and then somebody not southern not understanding
• 32:38
  that and trying to perform it in a way that's authentic.
• 32:41
  But it just it comes across as just bad.
• 32:44
  I have watched and enjoyed plenty of things starring Kiran
• 32:48
  Shipka, but I always feel like her dialogue is dialogue, you
• 32:54
  know what I mean? Yeah, it just, it I, it felt
• 32:57
  like words on paper. It didn't feel like a person
• 33:01
  delivering lines to me. It was weird.
• 33:03
  I didn't like it. And I guess the final thing is
• 33:09
  the fact that Carter doesn't buy long legs.
• 33:12
  Magic ball theory. However, he's fully on board
• 33:15
  with Harker having psychic abilities immediately in the
• 33:18
  movie. That doesn't make sense.
• 33:21
  I think it's because he saw the data tied with the psychic
• 33:25
  abilities. He did not see the data tied
• 33:29
  with the. Ball, But he's so quick to
• 33:30
  dismiss. The fact that there's a
• 33:32
  possibility is a weird thing, especially as somebody who is an
• 33:36
  FBI agent who confirmed has an agent with abilities.
• 33:40
  So why dismiss somebody else having abilities to a degree?
• 33:46
  You know, I just thought it was absurd.
• 33:47
  I thought it was weird. OK, yeah.
• 33:50
  All right. What are your absurds?
• 33:53
  My absurd the fact that the FBI has like has such a particular
• 34:03
  set of tests for, you know, divining ESP yeah, in its
• 34:08
  agents. There's that that I think is
• 34:12
  pretty like and also the the test administrator was really
• 34:17
  mean to Harker. Very direct, very rude, Yeah.
• 34:24
  That was probably one of the biggest ones for me, really.
• 34:27
  Yeah. The fact that they test for
• 34:28
  that. Like, I don't want to say like
• 34:30
  Long Legs's behavior was absurd because that's kind of the
• 34:33
  point, you know what I mean? How about the fact that he sings
• 34:36
  happy birthday for 24 minutes? That's frightening.
• 34:39
  Yeah. It's actually really scary.
• 34:41
  It is. Yeah.
• 34:42
  I will say the way he sings in the car, Yeah.
• 34:46
  OK. Maddie, Maddie.
• 34:50
  That's me. My celebratory diaper.
• 34:54
  OK, well I was going with the real, yeah, the real things, he
• 34:57
  said. Yeah.
• 35:00
  OK. All right.
• 35:01
  Cool. Well then, let's do our ratings
• 35:03
  then 7 1/2. 7 1/2 I'm gonna give it an 8.
• 35:09
  OK. So we got a 7.75 starting
• 35:13
  average. Yeah, I think before first on
• 35:16
  1st watch I would have given a six.
• 35:18
  OK, so that bumped me a point and 1/2 after a rewatch.
• 35:21
  Good. Good, good.
• 35:22
  Yeah. All right, let's get into it.
• 35:25
  We start off, we got some T Rex lyrics on the screen, and then
• 35:29
  we catch you a snowy day, a house kind of isolated.
• 35:33
  A car pulls up to it and a young girl is watching through a
• 35:36
  window and she grabs her camera and goes outside.
• 35:39
  When she gets out there, the car is empty, but she hears a sound
• 35:43
  and she looks around and all of a sudden we see like the torso
• 35:46
  of this man who said like, you know, was saying hello to the
• 35:51
  almost birthday girl. And then he says, oh, dear, it
• 35:55
  looks like I wore my long legs today.
• 35:57
  And then he drops down and that made me jump the first time we
• 36:01
  watched. It's good.
• 36:02
  They the way that they handled him right out the gate is great.
• 36:05
  Like that's a good introduction and you just get a glimpse of
• 36:08
  his face. And I love how we immediately
• 36:10
  get that explanation for his name.
• 36:12
  Yeah, Long legs. Yeah.
• 36:13
  How did he, like, do it that one time?
• 36:15
  He's like, huh, that sticks. That sounds good.
• 36:18
  Does he say that to everybody? I think he just did that once.
• 36:20
  I was like, damn, that's my name.
• 36:22
  It sounds like the type of thing a grandpa says to a grandchild.
• 36:26
  You know, like, oh, I forgot my lot.
• 36:28
  I warm my long legs today. Yeah.
• 36:30
  And then, I don't know, maybe he just picked it up and he was
• 36:32
  like, you know what would make this even better?
• 36:34
  If I murdered families on top. Of doing things.
• 36:37
  I think he got back in his car and started driving home, and he
• 36:39
  just kept her playing that moment.
• 36:40
  And I was like, man, I did a good job.
• 36:42
  Yeah, that was so quick. OK, so we cut now.
• 36:46
  It was Part 1. Yes, it's physical letters.
• 36:49
  We have FBI agents. They are being briefed on this
• 36:54
  current case that they're working.
• 36:55
  There's a guy who's a serial killer targets neighborhoods.
• 36:59
  A middle-aged Caucasian male likely to be found in a
• 37:02
  particular type of neighborhood. So they've got to canvas door to
• 37:06
  door because they're all rookie agents.
• 37:08
  They're going to be assigned partners.
• 37:10
  That way there's no hurt feelings.
• 37:11
  Hurt feelings probably on the part of Lee Harker because it
• 37:14
  seems like Agent Fisk is kind of a douche nozzle because they get
• 37:17
  in their car. Like her, her partner, he
• 37:20
  doesn't seem like a douche. What what seemed douchey did
• 37:23
  about him? I pull up, I'll do the door
• 37:27
  knocking if you want to do the hanging back part.
• 37:29
  Oh, OK, I didn't. I didn't catch that part.
• 37:33
  Yeah. The thing that I thought was
• 37:35
  kind of him was like, oh, don't worry, I will knock on the door.
• 37:37
  Whenever he goes, everything gets shot.
• 37:38
  I don't. Know it was very much like I'm
• 37:41
  going to be the one to catch this man and you stay back here
• 37:44
  little girlie. Yeah, it was very much that,
• 37:47
  that kind of a tone. OK, Yeah, so he goes to do that,
• 37:50
  she's staying in the car and she's just kind of like checking
• 37:53
  the houses in the area. And she looks at one house and
• 37:55
  she says it's that one. It's 3525.
• 37:58
  I don't know why I know it, but I feel like we need to call it
• 38:00
  in. He was no, but let's go knock on
• 38:03
  the door. And he knocks on the door and
• 38:06
  immediately. It's blasted.
• 38:08
  Yep. Then Harker goes in there with
• 38:10
  her gun drawn. She clears out the area and
• 38:12
  finds in the bedroom just sitting on the bed and he's got
• 38:15
  his hands up so they rest them and then.
• 38:19
  She's got to go do a very special kind of test.
• 38:21
  She's got to do image word associations, and then she has
• 38:24
  to guess what number has been generated from zero to 100
• 38:28
  inclusive. And she does that 16 times and
• 38:30
  she gets it right eight times. But as she tells Carter and
• 38:33
  Boeing Browning Leader, she also got it wrong 8 times.
• 38:37
  Yeah, so you're like, all right, you're half psychic.
• 38:39
  Whatever, man. So it's better than none.
• 38:42
  All right, so they are going over the case.
• 38:45
  So basically, Long Legs has left letters behind every single one
• 38:49
  of his victims. Yes, they have a coded alphabet
• 38:53
  and they're all signed long legs.
• 38:54
  Yes, so far, ten families, 10 letters.
• 38:58
  The most recent one, the horns. They were a family of four, and
• 39:03
  there's no fingerprints, no trace of anything besides this
• 39:07
  letter. At each of the crime scenes,
• 39:10
  Carter asks her how she knew that guy was there in Colfax.
• 39:16
  And she was like, it's just kind of like something tapped me on
• 39:18
  the shoulder. He says, has that ever happened?
• 39:20
  For She goes, yeah, this time to time.
• 39:22
  You know, she. I like how she's just kind of
• 39:25
  very matter of fact of like, this is what has happened to me
• 39:28
  in my life. I have no better explanation.
• 39:30
  This is what it feels like. This is what I do with
• 39:31
  information. Yeah.
• 39:32
  Yeah. I mean, else, can you describe
• 39:34
  it? Yeah.
• 39:36
  Then we get a montage, which I normally love a montage, but
• 39:39
  this montage is kind of dark because instead of like, you
• 39:42
  know, a, a funky fresh beat we get, we get a crime scene tape,
• 39:48
  like an, an operator tape, like where he calls onto a dispatcher
• 39:52
  and one of them is like the dad of the family and he's like my
• 39:56
  daughter. I've got to, I've got to take
• 39:59
  care of her. Yeah, yeah.
• 40:01
  And then it's the operator trying to keep him on the phone,
• 40:03
  but then you can hear the chaos kind of erupts going on in the
• 40:06
  background there. So she's reviewing all the other
• 40:09
  cases and Carter is still kind of prying and giving her some
• 40:12
  info on the case. So he says let's go for a drink.
• 40:15
  And she says I don't drink. He says exactly, but I will and
• 40:18
  you're going to talk to me about the case.
• 40:19
  And so they sit down and he says, tell me what they have in
• 40:22
  in common. And she says, well, all the
• 40:25
  families have a daughter with a birthday on the 14th of the
• 40:27
  month, 15th, 14th. 15th of any month. 14th of any month is
• 40:33
  absolutely the 14th. I wrote down 15th here.
• 40:35
  You even laughed when I said that my birthday originally was
• 40:38
  supposed to be on. January.
• 40:39
  No, I know because 14th is Harker's birthday.
• 40:42
  That's why she was one of the targets.
• 40:44
  Why did they say 15th? They didn't.
• 40:46
  You just wrote down the. What did you write?
• 40:48
  What did you write? Did you write 14th?
• 40:50
  14th of the month and all the killings happened within six
• 40:55
  days of that, so the most recent one happened on the 8th
• 40:59
  891011121314. OK, OK.
• 41:05
  Oh, all right. OK. 14th makes sense, but I had
• 41:09
  15th written down. OK.
• 41:11
  That's what happened there. Travis.
• 41:14
  And This is why I'm not cut off for the FBI.
• 41:16
  All right, so Harker's reviewing evidence.
• 41:19
  Carter takes the referee, drinks like he said.
• 41:21
  So, yeah, no signs of long leg, No sign of long legs inside.
• 41:26
  He's always done them by all. The crimes are always done by
• 41:31
  the people themselves inside the house, and it's always done with
• 41:33
  something already inside the house, so nothing from outside
• 41:36
  is introduced. Yeah, so it's usually a knife
• 41:39
  from the kitchen in most cases, but in a couple of cases it was
• 41:42
  a gun. And then there was also the axe
• 41:44
  with the camera family. Yeah, yeah.
• 41:46
  So she drives him home and he makes her meet his family.
• 41:50
  He's got a daughter, Ruby, and she wants to show Harker her
• 41:53
  room. I think she likes seeing a
• 41:55
  female FBI agent. Yeah, and.
• 41:58
  She even asks her about it. She goes, did you always want to
• 41:59
  be an FBI agent? She goes, no, I used to want to
• 42:01
  be an actress. I like how she answers a lot of
• 42:03
  these because you can tell she's uncomfortable.
• 42:05
  She's like, no, she always looks like the little.
• 42:10
  Yeah, I think part of her is like also not knowing what's
• 42:13
  appropriate to tell kids or. Not Yeah.
• 42:15
  Is it scary to be an FBI agent and then, like, in her mind
• 42:18
  racing, like all the horrible shit that she reviewed today?
• 42:20
  Yeah, No. Not really.
• 42:22
  She's like, yeah, it's kind of scary, but because she can't say
• 42:25
  that. Yeah, it's downright terrifying
• 42:26
  because her dad's an FBI agent. Yeah.
• 42:28
  You know, she can't put that fear into her.
• 42:30
  Yeah. And then I'll.
• 42:31
  Probably die every day. And then she invites her to her
• 42:34
  birthday party. So Harvey goes home.
• 42:38
  She hears some loud music playing outside her house, which
• 42:40
  is weird because it doesn't seem like a super populated
• 42:44
  neighborhood. Yeah, and it cuts off right
• 42:46
  away. It's like rock music kind of
• 42:48
  sounding like long legs music. She takes a shower and calls her
• 42:52
  mom, who is just going through stuff in her house.
• 42:55
  And her mom is a hoarder, which we will see more of later.
• 43:01
  But I think that adds to some of the complicated feelings Harker
• 43:05
  has, like about her childhood. And yeah, I could see that and
• 43:08
  everything. Yeah.
• 43:09
  And they seem to have a strained relationship based off of this
• 43:12
  conversation here. She's they're talking about
• 43:15
  seeing each other. And Harker's making promises
• 43:17
  that she'll see her soon, but she's busy working on a case at
• 43:20
  the moment. And her mom says that she's
• 43:22
  doing nasty work. And at first you think maybe
• 43:25
  she's disapproving, and she is kind of disapproving.
• 43:27
  But then she says that she was a nurse for eight years, so she's
• 43:29
  seen some nasty things, but I guess she thinks it's nasty in a
• 43:33
  different way. Yeah, and then she's also asking
• 43:35
  if she's praying, doing her prayers at night.
• 43:38
  And then there's a sound so Harker's like, hold on, I I
• 43:42
  gotta go, I'll call you back. And there's a pounding at the
• 43:45
  door. So she puts her little chain up
• 43:47
  and she's kind of looking around the house.
• 43:48
  She's got her gun. She sees somebody outside, so
• 43:52
  she runs out the back door. And then while she's
• 43:54
  investigating the perimeter of her house, she sees that same
• 43:57
  person. Inside.
• 43:59
  This is probably one of the scariest scenes of the movie.
• 44:02
  Truly. Yeah.
• 44:03
  Yeah. It's very upsetting.
• 44:05
  So she goes back inside the house and clears the room with
• 44:08
  her gun there. And then she looks down and sees
• 44:11
  that there was a note left on her desk.
• 44:13
  There's an envelope that has Agent Lee Harker and then it
• 44:16
  says do not open until when. The 14th January 14th.
• 44:21
  Look, I know, OK, I know, but I wrote 15th so you get mad at
• 44:25
  last night. Me not current day.
• 44:27
  I'll be mad at all of you. OK.
• 44:31
  Part 2. All of your things, yes.
• 44:33
  So she opens the envelope and the ink is still wet and she
• 44:36
  manages to decode the message using the Bible and it's
• 44:41
  basically a threat to kill her mom as she tells anybody how she
• 44:45
  figured out how to decode this. Yeah, also the devil's just
• 44:48
  shown behind her. Yeah, there's that.
• 44:49
  Blinking. You'll miss the type thing.
• 44:51
  So she's called to a crime scene and it's long legs again.
• 44:55
  It happened a while back, though.
• 44:57
  The family was meant to be on vacation, so nobody thought to
• 45:00
  check on them. And then, yeah, people finally
• 45:03
  got when that they were missing and it's been a month.
• 45:06
  Yeah, so there's like still Christmas decorations and stuff
• 45:10
  up. We know Harker's birthday is
• 45:12
  January 14th. So, you know, depending on what
• 45:16
  the family's usual like Christmas decoration up and down
• 45:20
  thing, it kind of gives you a sense of like at least this is
• 45:24
  it's been a little bit. Yeah, yeah.
• 45:25
  And. Man, insult to entry.
• 45:29
  They bought and paid for those Disneyland reservations.
• 45:32
  I know, right? Yeah.
• 45:34
  Yeah. Well, at least you don't have to
• 45:35
  deal with the debt now. Yeah, so the dad was found out
• 45:40
  in the bar or out in the garage and the rest of the family was
• 45:44
  found in the master bedroom in the bed and.
• 45:47
  They're badly decomposed. And the cat is in a little
• 45:50
  carrier and that's mad. Yeah, my dad, thankfully.
• 45:55
  Yeah, I think the cat was put. We had this discussion last
• 45:58
  night. I'm of the opinion that the cat
• 46:01
  was put into a carrier by one of the CSIS like so.
• 46:05
  That way they can surrender it to a shelter.
• 46:07
  It would have had to have been because there's no way a cat
• 46:08
  would survive without anything for a month.
• 46:10
  Yeah. And then Travis said how was he
• 46:12
  eating anyway? And then I said the
• 46:13
  uncomfortable reality is that if you die in a home with cats, the
• 46:16
  cats will eat you before they start to die.
• 46:19
  Yeah. All right.
• 46:21
  So Harker calls her mom again and tells her she's not going to
• 46:25
  be able to see her. She's got a big case that she's
• 46:27
  working on. It's exciting.
• 46:28
  She's kind of happy about it. And this gets the mom a little
• 46:31
  bit more concerned and just wants her to continue praying.
• 46:33
  Yes. Then we get our favorite thing,
• 46:36
  microfiche. Yeah, Macrofish.
• 46:40
  So she's looking at some of the records and newspaper clippings
• 46:42
  of past murders, and she plots out when the murders occurred
• 46:47
  relative to the birthdays. So only a couple of them
• 46:49
  actually happened on the 14th. The arrest happened within six
• 46:53
  days of the birthday. And if you take it on a
• 46:55
  calendar, it all makes the satanic symbol.
• 46:59
  I don't know which symbol it is, but I drew it.
• 47:01
  It's a triangle upside down inside of a circle.
• 47:03
  Yeah, inverted triangle, I don't know enough.
• 47:08
  Something about 666, yeah. So yeah, murders occur 6 days
• 47:13
  before, before or after birthdays.
• 47:17
  And she has also decoded all of the notes that were left at the
• 47:21
  crime scenes and they all reference the camera family farm
• 47:24
  where X marks the spot. Carter's just not really that
• 47:28
  impressed. He's like, how'd you do this?
• 47:29
  And she's like, just. And he's like.
• 47:30
  She's like, I just looked at it long enough.
• 47:32
  It's like, OK, like you guys have been trying to crack this
• 47:36
  thing forever and she just comes over nice.
• 47:38
  Like, yeah, I got it right here. And he's just like, cool.
• 47:40
  What's? The half psychic power.
• 47:41
  I guess so, yeah, I always be enthused.
• 47:45
  So Carrie Anne is actually one of the lone survivors of any of
• 47:48
  these massacre is she survived because she was at school.
• 47:51
  She is now at Water Rock Psychiatric Hospital that is
• 47:55
  like a little over 100 miles away.
• 47:57
  And the camera family farm is a little over 80 miles away.
• 48:00
  So they decide they're going to look at the farm 1st and then
• 48:03
  visit Carrie Anne. And when they get to the farm,
• 48:05
  this is one of those shots that you were talking about where he
• 48:07
  does those real wide shots and it gives you that sense of the
• 48:10
  vastness. I think this one and the shots
• 48:12
  at her house, I think both are so one of the most effective and
• 48:16
  scary because you're like looking for all of the things
• 48:19
  that could be hiding in that open space.
• 48:20
  Yeah, the thing, especially in the house, is you get like the
• 48:24
  hallway and you can see the rooms behind her even.
• 48:26
  So like you're looking throughout the house, basically.
• 48:28
  You get like the whole view of the house.
• 48:30
  So you're just watching for somebody to be creeping around
• 48:33
  back there. Yeah.
• 48:34
  Yeah, so they find XS by the barn door and then they're able
• 48:40
  to follow it upstairs to the hay left.
• 48:42
  Yeah, there's like a cross on one of the planks and they pry
• 48:46
  it open. It is.
• 48:48
  It is a cross. And you'll notice in one of the
• 48:49
  flashbacks later, when Carrie Ann's talking about her dad
• 48:52
  murdering her mom, that same cross was hanging up on the
• 48:55
  wall. Oh, didn't notice that.
• 48:57
  Yeah. OK.
• 48:57
  So yeah, underneath it there is a box, and the box has a little
• 49:01
  doll. I for real the first time we
• 49:04
  watched this at first glance thought it was a mummified
• 49:06
  child. It kind of looks like one.
• 49:08
  Yeah. So they take this doll for an
• 49:12
  autopsy and the guy, like I said before, is so happy about it.
• 49:18
  Like did they need to utilize one of the like any rooms for
• 49:25
  this? Could they not have done it in
• 49:27
  some? Other Can you imagine, like
• 49:29
  you're waiting on like somebody you care about?
• 49:32
  They're like, OK, we need the autopsy to find out what
• 49:34
  happened. Like, OK, like, we'll do it in a
• 49:35
  little bit. Right now they're busy with
• 49:37
  another one. OK, who is it?
• 49:38
  It's a doll. He says that this doll is really
• 49:42
  well made. It's handmade porcelain, hands
• 49:45
  and feet and face, real human hair.
• 49:49
  The stuffing is all like very fine quality.
• 49:53
  And inside of the head is this little metal ball.
• 49:57
  And it makes a sound when you put the ultrasound little thingy
• 50:03
  up on it, the wand, which maybe that means something, but maybe
• 50:08
  it also just means the metal's interacting with the wand.
• 50:11
  That was kind of my thought. He goes, yeah, last night I
• 50:14
  thought it was whispering in my wife, my ex wife's name.
• 50:16
  But I also haven't been sleeping.
• 50:19
  This guy's just weird. Yeah, All right.
• 50:21
  So listen, I'm glad he I'm glad he had a good day hanging out
• 50:25
  with the Carrie Anne doll. I don't want to know anything
• 50:27
  else about out about this man other than maybe this is what
• 50:30
  convinced him not to quit his job that day.
• 50:32
  Yeah, maybe. Maybe this is the one that saved
• 50:34
  it. Yeah.
• 50:35
  All right, so now we're getting flashbacks of long legs with
• 50:38
  that doll, and he's speaking to it.
• 50:39
  He's naming it. I think he names it after Carrie
• 50:42
  Anne there too, I can't remember exactly.
• 50:45
  And then he enshrouds it and it looks super creepy and it's
• 50:48
  shroud. Yeah, and it's eyes glow from
• 50:50
  underneath. Yeah.
• 50:51
  Then we got to a long shot of a station wagon just absolutely
• 50:55
  bumping and grinding down the road.
• 50:58
  It is long legs, the station wagon and he's gone to the
• 51:01
  hardware store because he needs to get his enamel paint do.
• 51:04
  You think he's the type of person that when he pulls up at
• 51:06
  a red light next to somebody, does he turn his music down
• 51:09
  because he doesn't want to like be noticed or?
• 51:11
  Does he? No, he absolutely he.
• 51:13
  If anything, he turns it up and makes eye contact with the
• 51:16
  person next to him and like sings along without blinking.
• 51:19
  Yeah, OK, yeah, yeah, that would make me shit my pants.
• 51:25
  I wouldn't like that at all. That's one of those where you're
• 51:28
  just like you feel the person looking at you and you're like,
• 51:30
  I'm not looking at you, Yeah. You can see the peripheral.
• 51:35
  Just Nick Cage and long legs makeup, just like singing T Rex
• 51:38
  at you aggressively. Yeah.
• 51:43
  All right, so he arrives at the store.
• 51:46
  It's a craft store, it seems, and he's just going.
• 51:49
  It's a hardware store. He's a hardware store, Yeah.
• 51:51
  He's getting like enamel paint or whatever to be able to paint
• 51:53
  the ceramic. OK, yeah.
• 51:56
  And he like the girl is watching him through the anti shoplifting
• 52:01
  mirrors in the back and she's obviously off put by him.
• 52:05
  And then he goes over to the counter and he does this
• 52:06
  bullshit where he takes his hands and puts them over his
• 52:09
  head and he's just covering his eyes and he's being weird and
• 52:13
  creepy towards this little girl. And here's this thing.
• 52:16
  So in that interview, Osgood Perkins talked about, you know,
• 52:21
  this is kind of a moment of long legs.
• 52:23
  He is just a human person who has realized that he's made
• 52:26
  himself off putting to the people around him.
• 52:30
  He just wants to talk to this little girl.
• 52:33
  And because he is like, butchered his face and skin, and
• 52:38
  then he is so disconnected that he's just upsetting her.
• 52:42
  Well, I can empathize with somebody being lonely and
• 52:46
  feeling disconnected. You also, yeah, you all you need
• 52:51
  to also kind of read the room and read the space.
• 52:55
  And if you're wanting to make those social connections, not do
• 52:57
  things that are clearly making somebody uncomfortable that have
• 53:00
  clearly made them uncomfortable in the past.
• 53:03
  Because this young girl shouts out Daddy the creepy guys back
• 53:06
  again. Yeah, I don't know, I feel like
• 53:08
  you could go on a deep dive of Long Legs's psychological.
• 53:13
  I don't. Here's The thing is that I don't
• 53:15
  think that this is a phenomenon unique to a satanic serial
• 53:18
  killer in a movie. This is the thing that you see.
• 53:20
  No, that's what I'm trying to say.
• 53:22
  I think they like just like some kind of like thing where he
• 53:25
  doesn't necessarily, you know, know how to interact with people
• 53:28
  or he like doesn't get social cues or anything like that.
• 53:31
  But like he is still experiencing the frustration of
• 53:34
  wanting to have that connection but he just so he can't.
• 53:38
  He struggles with it, I think. I think this is the thing that
• 53:41
  I've seen multiple times in my life that I've been subjected to
• 53:45
  this kind of like attempting to be held hostage because I am a
• 53:51
  person that wants to have empathy with other people in the
• 53:53
  world. But like, you know, we've been
• 53:55
  at Barcades before and I had this dude completely corner me
• 53:59
  while I was in the middle of playing a game.
• 54:01
  How about Maria? And I was isolated and alone,
• 54:03
  and he's just like holding me hostage to his conversation.
• 54:07
  And I had to literally yell at him to get out.
• 54:09
  I have had older men say completely inappropriate things
• 54:12
  to me when I was at my serving job, and I am held hostage to
• 54:16
  that because I am at work. I don't think that this is like
• 54:19
  a thing that is necessarily just, like I said, aging satanic
• 54:25
  killers in horror movies. This is the thing that you see
• 54:27
  from people who don't have a ton of social interaction and don't
• 54:31
  understand what's appropriate and what's not appropriate.
• 54:33
  And you know, it's like I said with Franklin last month, two
• 54:36
  things can be true at once. While I empathize with them
• 54:38
  wanting to make those connections, that does not make
• 54:40
  it OK the way they choose to go about making those connections
• 54:43
  and making people uncomfortable over and over and over again.
• 54:45
  Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
• 54:47
  He just, he just doesn't see the wrong in what he's doing there.
• 54:50
  Really. Yeah.
• 54:52
  I didn't realize that that was him raging at the whole thing
• 54:55
  there. You can see he kind of does look
• 54:57
  a little bit deflated on the drive back, but I thought that
• 55:00
  that was just him being himself. I fully believe that's probably
• 55:06
  how he sings in his car anyway. Probably, yeah.
• 55:08
  I think he chose that specific song to really like.
• 55:11
  Was that a song they were saying?
• 55:13
  I I. Assumed it seemed like I think
• 55:15
  he like threaded it in with some lyrics at the end there, but I
• 55:18
  think he was like mimicking her. Yeah, the.
• 55:21
  Store there too at the same time.
• 55:23
  I'm not gonna pretend to be like, well versed on T Rex's
• 55:26
  discography. I just assumed I was lyrics
• 55:29
  because that's kind of his whole thing.
• 55:31
  You dig? I guess, yeah, All right.
• 55:35
  So about 8 more than eight years ago, we know in reality it was
• 55:42
  closer to 20 years. But the current person that they
• 55:45
  speak with, the current worker at the hospital has been over,
• 55:48
  has been there over eight years. And he says in that entire time,
• 55:51
  Carrie Anne has been completely catatonic and she has had
• 55:54
  absolutely no visitors. And then yesterday she had a
• 55:57
  visitor and it's like the lights, like a switch flipped in
• 56:01
  her head and suddenly she was talkative and engaged and wide
• 56:03
  awake. The log says that the visitor
• 56:07
  was named Lee Harker. And she goes, does your guard
• 56:12
  check IDs? Well, that's actually a really
• 56:15
  good idea. But no.
• 56:16
  But no. Yeah.
• 56:19
  You would think. You would think that somebody
• 56:22
  running a psych hospital talking to two feds about a patient with
• 56:26
  a strange visitor would be slightly shitting their pants at
• 56:30
  their practices. Do we know when this movie
• 56:33
  takes? Place, it's in the 90s, is it
• 56:36
  OK. So Carrie Anne meets with
• 56:38
  Harker, and she tells her that her parents didn't really know
• 56:40
  what to do with her. Her she I guess the delivery
• 56:44
  with her was really difficult. And her mom bled a lot, was kind
• 56:49
  of resentful. And she said her dad was a good
• 56:52
  person, but, you know, that's why he ended up doing what he
• 56:55
  had to do. And we see him killing the
• 56:57
  priest and the mom with an axe. And she when Harker asks about
• 57:02
  who visited her yesterday, she goes, oh, I was just so happy to
• 57:06
  see him and even happier to be talking to the man downstairs.
• 57:10
  And if he asked me to jump off the roof of this building,
• 57:14
  Shirley, I would. If he asked me to kill you where
• 57:16
  you stand, Shirley, I would. And Harker's just like, OK.
• 57:24
  Carter asked what Harker isn't telling her.
• 57:27
  And she was like, what do you mean?
• 57:29
  And he goes, well, this, this case, this series of murders has
• 57:34
  been, you know, relatively little motion.
• 57:36
  And then you come in, things suddenly start moving again.
• 57:39
  Too many coincidences are happening.
• 57:42
  So I pulled your file and it looks like your mom called in a
• 57:44
  report on January 13th, 1974 on a tall, pale trespasser.
• 57:50
  So you're going to need to go talk to.
• 57:53
  Your mom? Yep.
• 57:54
  So yeah, she can't remember any of this either.
• 57:57
  So she goes and calls her mom or no, she goes to visit her mom
• 58:02
  this time. Which I will say, supernatural
• 58:05
  or no supernatural, that's a very real trauma response.
• 58:08
  Yeah. Your brain will just absolutely
• 58:10
  block out some unpleasant memories.
• 58:12
  And Travis can tell you he's seen plenty of times where like
• 58:15
  a memory from my childhood has come flooding back to me.
• 58:19
  Oh, yeah. I'm like, oh, I guess.
• 58:22
  I guess 8 year old Jesse needed to repress that for a while.
• 58:25
  Yeah, so again mom asks if she's praying.
• 58:28
  And then this time Harker just swelled and it's no, she never
• 58:31
  prayed in the 1st place. And then my mom's like, yeah,
• 58:33
  but it's bullshit. Doesn't do anything anyway.
• 58:35
  Yeah, she says the prayers scared her.
• 58:36
  And then her mom starts laughing.
• 58:38
  Yeah, and she goes. You know, prayers don't do
• 58:39
  anything anyway. Yeah, so Harker then goes and is
• 58:45
  kind of just messing around in the house, and then she notices
• 58:48
  that she's. Making teeth.
• 58:49
  Oh yeah, she's making. She notices that there's fake
• 58:51
  teeth up there too. She's like and she looks like,
• 58:54
  she's like Jesus Christ. Those aren't fake teeth.
• 58:56
  Those are her teeth that she lost when she was a child.
• 58:58
  They were labeled with her name and her age.
• 59:01
  Yeah. I thought that they were fake
• 59:02
  teeth like no for doll making. Material.
• 59:04
  No. Those are her baby teeth.
• 59:06
  Oh, that is. Weird.
• 59:07
  I wouldn't be surprised if Long Legs was using them in the dolls
• 59:09
  though. Yeah, I mean, it would make
• 59:11
  sense. She gets a sense of something
• 59:13
  downstairs and then she heads towards the basement door to
• 59:16
  open it, but the door is locked and then the mom calls her back
• 59:20
  into the living room so she doesn't get to investigate any
• 59:22
  further. She does ask her got her 9th
• 59:24
  birthday and her mom says, well, I don't remember much.
• 59:26
  You know, we never got any visitors, no family, nobody.
• 59:30
  And she says that Lee was allowed to grow up and because
• 59:34
  she was allowed to grow up, she forgot what she could for both
• 59:38
  their sakes. And she goes, but you know what?
• 59:40
  I never threw anything away. All of your things are in your
• 59:43
  room. So Harker brings her, like, Li's
• 59:47
  memory chest or whatever it was home, and she's looking through
• 59:51
  the photos that she took on her little Polaroid camera when she
• 59:54
  was little and. There's that picture of long
• 59:58
  legs in there, like how it just like flashes real quick and she
• 1:00:01
  has this visceral reaction to it.
• 1:00:03
  So she gives the photo to Carter, and she's like, this is
• 1:00:05
  long legs. She's like, how can you be sure?
• 1:00:07
  And she's like, dude, either you want to believe I'm psychic or
• 1:00:09
  you don't. Like, you need to pick a lane,
• 1:00:12
  Carter. Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  They're like, OK, we're starting a manhunt on this right here.
• 1:00:16
  They know. And then I got some long legs
• 1:00:18
  noticed at this point too, cuz he's got his suitcase backed up.
• 1:00:22
  He's standing at a bus stop and he's just waiting.
• 1:00:24
  And then there's cops coming from all directions and then
• 1:00:26
  they get him. So he's arrested.
• 1:00:30
  Del Ferdinand Kabul is his full name and they begin his
• 1:00:34
  interrogation. He says he knows Harker from a
• 1:00:37
  friend of a friend of a friend. And he really wants to see her.
• 1:00:40
  And then he starts singing Happy Birthday and they shut off the
• 1:00:44
  tape and say that that went on for 24 minutes.
• 1:00:48
  I know people laughed in the theater whenever we saw this
• 1:00:51
  part, but then like watching it again at home I'm like, this was
• 1:00:54
  actually unsettling. Yeah, no, like that was like
• 1:00:56
  uncomfortable laugh for me, like.
• 1:00:58
  Yeah, I feel like some people thought it was funny because I
• 1:01:01
  mean, I can. It could be comedically
• 1:01:03
  delivered that line, but so the luggage he had, it's full of
• 1:01:08
  notebooks with satanic material and they still have no evidence
• 1:01:12
  that he's killed anybody based off of what they found.
• 1:01:15
  Yeah, they're like, it's legal to be a Satanist.
• 1:01:17
  Yeah, that's that's not a problem.
• 1:01:19
  So. But Harker says she wants to
• 1:01:21
  talk to him. Yeah, she's certain that he has
• 1:01:23
  an accomplice, so she's gonna go figure it out.
• 1:01:25
  And today is the 13th, and they're expecting something big
• 1:01:29
  to happen on this day. So she's like, I gotta get down
• 1:01:31
  there and get to the bottom of this.
• 1:01:33
  So while she's talking to him, he he makes it very clear he
• 1:01:37
  knows her and he references a she cuz he says you know, the
• 1:01:40
  day you chose to be in law enforcement.
• 1:01:43
  She and I had a good laugh about it.
• 1:01:45
  Well, I laughed anyway. Yeah, also right before it's.
• 1:01:49
  It's one of those things that makes the lessons ever.
• 1:01:51
  You watch her, but like they're like, OK, where is he?
• 1:01:54
  And then they tell her like, Oh yeah, he's right downstairs,
• 1:01:58
  right below your feet, which is basically.
• 1:02:01
  One of those things also that I forgot to write down in my
• 1:02:03
  notes, but you just may remember when Harker is talking to Carrie
• 1:02:07
  Anne, she asked if she had any visitors.
• 1:02:09
  She said Once Upon a time I did, and she looked an awful lot like
• 1:02:12
  you. And we're thinking maybe it has
• 1:02:14
  something to do with the doll cuz she'd just gotten the doll
• 1:02:17
  out. But it's probably her mom.
• 1:02:18
  But it's probably her mom. Yeah.
• 1:02:20
  Yep. I I made that connection last
• 1:02:23
  night too. Yeah.
• 1:02:24
  Yeah, this movie's really good for rewatches.
• 1:02:27
  Yeah, and he said that this, this same.
• 1:02:30
  She she could either choose to destroy the things she cares
• 1:02:34
  about, or she can bow down and do terrible, terrible things.
• 1:02:37
  And he says hail Satan and then smashes his face to death.
• 1:02:41
  Yep. Oh, and he also says go talk to
• 1:02:44
  your mom. Yeah.
• 1:02:45
  Right before he starts to bash his face to death.
• 1:02:48
  Part three. Yeah.
• 1:02:49
  Long Ways is dead. Yeah.
• 1:02:50
  Part three. Birthday girls.
• 1:02:52
  Carter's pissed because now Long Legs is dead, they don't have a
• 1:02:55
  lead, and oh, guess what? While Harker was in there
• 1:02:57
  talking to him, Carrie Ann jumped off the building.
• 1:03:01
  But do we think she did that because of the discussion or
• 1:03:04
  because they had broken apart the ball to make sure it was
• 1:03:08
  empty? Did they?
• 1:03:10
  He says that happened too. I never thought of that.
• 1:03:13
  It could have been that, yeah. It could have been just like she
• 1:03:15
  didn't want to live anymore after that.
• 1:03:17
  Yeah, something happened. Browning drives Harker to bring
• 1:03:23
  in her mom basically at this point, like that's that's the
• 1:03:26
  only lead that they have. So they get there and Harker's
• 1:03:30
  like, I'll go in, I'll talk to her, I'll convince her to come
• 1:03:33
  out. You just wait out here.
• 1:03:34
  So she gets out and she walks away, but we see mom behind.
• 1:03:38
  Dude, and this right here, they did a great job because her
• 1:03:40
  outfit and the way that the mountains like the trees and
• 1:03:43
  everything in the back perfectly camouflage like it lines up
• 1:03:46
  perfect with her outfit. It's crazy.
• 1:03:49
  It's really well done and she creeps up from behind.
• 1:03:52
  She's got a double barrel shotgun.
• 1:03:53
  She points it right through the window and then boom.
• 1:03:56
  And Lee sees this, and she starts to come outside.
• 1:03:59
  We see the mom go around to the other side.
• 1:04:01
  Just for good measure, she's gonna shoot Agent Browning on
• 1:04:04
  both sides of the head. Yeah.
• 1:04:08
  And Harker follows her around behind the house, and she sees
• 1:04:11
  the mom as pointing the shotgun at a tiny little Lee Harker
• 1:04:14
  doll. Yeah.
• 1:04:15
  Wearing almost the same outfit that we see the little girl was
• 1:04:18
  wearing in the opening scene. Yeah, this is gonna be really
• 1:04:21
  confusing for Harker. And then her mom shoots the
• 1:04:24
  doll. We see some smoke release from
• 1:04:28
  Lee's head and then she passes out.
• 1:04:31
  And then we get a voice over from Ruth Harker talking about a
• 1:04:34
  mom and a little girl who lived in a little house.
• 1:04:36
  They had no visitors until a doll maker arrived and said that
• 1:04:40
  they want a doll from the church.
• 1:04:42
  The work was magic, but it was the magic of the devil.
• 1:04:45
  The doll made the girl forget and only see what she was
• 1:04:48
  supposed to see and not see the other things around her.
• 1:04:51
  The devil wanted the girl but the mom wouldn't let her.
• 1:04:54
  She begged to spare her in exchange for help.
• 1:04:56
  All she had to do was get the doll inside of these other
• 1:04:59
  families houses and stay and watch and make sure things
• 1:05:02
  happened the way he wanted them to happen.
• 1:05:07
  And we see like, reenactments of some of these things happening,
• 1:05:10
  most notably at the Canberra family farm where Ruth Harker,
• 1:05:13
  dressed in a nun's habit, walks up, says they want a gift from
• 1:05:17
  the church and it's a doll. And the mom is so happy, so
• 1:05:19
  excited. Except then murder starts
• 1:05:22
  happening pretty quickly. This worked out a lot better for
• 1:05:24
  long legs because it's much more easy to like allow somebody like
• 1:05:29
  her inside your house instead of somebody like long legs.
• 1:05:32
  Yeah. Especially since his whole thing
• 1:05:34
  was sneaking in the backyard and going cuckoo.
• 1:05:35
  Cuckoo. It's kinda cuckoo.
• 1:05:38
  Yeah, cuckoo. If it were up to me, it'd be
• 1:05:40
  cuckoo. But he says cuckoo.
• 1:05:42
  Cuckoo. He says it incorrectly.
• 1:05:44
  I mean like, you need your pinky out with it, cuckoo.
• 1:05:46
  Yeah, I. Feel like Doctor Eve?
• 1:05:49
  So Harker wakes and she is downstairs and long legs his
• 1:05:53
  bed, and somehow that is one of the creepiest parts of all.
• 1:05:56
  Yeah, and we find out he's been living in their basement.
• 1:05:59
  The whole time, yeah, he's been living in their basement.
• 1:06:01
  She gets off through the the upstairs and then it's in the
• 1:06:04
  mom's kitchen. Yep, she answers a phone call
• 1:06:07
  that says she you're going to be late for Miss Ruby's birthday
• 1:06:12
  party was. This the devil?
• 1:06:14
  Yeah, OK. Pretty sure.
• 1:06:16
  What was the mom like? Mom, is that you?
• 1:06:19
  I don't. Know see your person so she.
• 1:06:26
  She takes a long legs car. She takes Yeah, cuz her mom took
• 1:06:28
  her car. Yeah.
• 1:06:29
  Agent Browning's car is covered in Agent Browning.
• 1:06:32
  Yeah. So she pulls the tarp off of the
• 1:06:34
  station wagon that it's long legs, the station wagon, and
• 1:06:36
  she's driving. It's very much the same shot,
• 1:06:39
  yeah, that we see of him doing the mommy daddy screaming.
• 1:06:41
  So this time she's just, yeah, she's just wailing cuz.
• 1:06:44
  She's remembering everything now.
• 1:06:46
  Yeah, so she gets there. The mom dollar already there.
• 1:06:50
  Carter's being very weird. He is like, Oh yes, Miss Ruby's
• 1:06:53
  just now opening her gifts. There's nobody else at this
• 1:06:56
  party. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:58
  And the daughter is just sitting there with the doll mixer and
• 1:07:01
  just staring at it. Yeah.
• 1:07:04
  It's very unsettling. It's very weird.
• 1:07:07
  And then the mom is like, all right, it's time to cut the
• 1:07:10
  cakes. They keep saying cakes, plural,
• 1:07:13
  but like, he's like, all right, I'm going to cut the fucking
• 1:07:16
  cakes. It's your fucking stupid idea
• 1:07:17
  anyways. What the fuck is happening here?
• 1:07:21
  For some reason I'm picturing cupcakes, but they're like one
• 1:07:24
  of those weird families that wants to limit sugar to an
• 1:07:26
  absurd degree, so they're gonna cut the cupcakes.
• 1:07:29
  I can see Carter being one of those guys, absolutely.
• 1:07:32
  Yeah. Like they're gonna go to the
• 1:07:34
  kitchen and then she's the mom's like, all right, we'll be right
• 1:07:38
  back. He's like, no.
• 1:07:39
  I will be. You'll still be in the kitchen.
• 1:07:41
  Damn, Which? Even murderer aside, like
• 1:07:43
  assuming he wasn't gonna murder her, that's still a red flag.
• 1:07:46
  Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
• 1:07:49
  So they're in there doing the business in the kitchen, and
• 1:07:52
  then Harker is trying to talk the mom out of everything and
• 1:07:55
  she's like, it's too late. The.
• 1:07:56
  Mom's like, I wouldn't change a thing.
• 1:07:58
  She was like, I would kill whoever I needed to kill to let
• 1:08:01
  you grow up. And Carter comes out, He's got
• 1:08:03
  the knife in his hand. Harker shoots him.
• 1:08:07
  She shoots her mom. She tries to shoot the dog but
• 1:08:12
  the guns either out of ammo or it jams.
• 1:08:14
  Yeah, the devil's doing the devil's work.
• 1:08:16
  And she doesn't find something else to destroy the dog.
• 1:08:19
  She's like, all right, let's go like.
• 1:08:21
  Maybe she did. We we don't really get anything
• 1:08:24
  after this. Like maybe her, you know, maybe
• 1:08:26
  she realized it was better to not remember after all, so she
• 1:08:31
  wanted to do that for her, that kid.
• 1:08:35
  You know it could be because remembering cause potentially
• 1:08:39
  carry in to kill herself and Parker is overcome with a lot of
• 1:08:45
  pent up. Shit, but also maybe if Ruby
• 1:08:48
  sees all of this and processes it in the moment.
• 1:08:52
  Well, see, I think you could get very deep with this.
• 1:08:55
  It could be like the whole perpetuating, like what your mom
• 1:08:58
  did. Even though you realize it
• 1:08:59
  wasn't bad, you find yourself doing the same thing.
• 1:09:01
  She's sheltering. She thinks she's sheltering this
• 1:09:04
  girl from something by doing this, or she's just perpetuating
• 1:09:07
  that when, you know, she could be doing the honorable thing,
• 1:09:10
  the real good thing, and freeing her of that stuff and letting
• 1:09:14
  her know it's really interesting.
• 1:09:16
  I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:09:18
  What I do know is that before we cut your credits, we get one
• 1:09:20
  final shot of long legs in the interrogation room and he says
• 1:09:24
  hail Satan. Yep, Yep.
• 1:09:27
  And then we get some tea rigs. Mm Hmm.
• 1:09:30
  Biggie. Gong.
• 1:09:31
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:09:35
  I'm making Madden 8. I think this is a really good
• 1:09:36
  movie. I think if the ending was maybe
• 1:09:39
  like just just just a little bit.
• 1:09:42
  Yeah, I think I'll I'll make mine an 8 also.
• 1:09:45
  I liked it. Yeah, I like it a lot more after
• 1:09:48
  rewatch. If anybody didn't really care
• 1:09:51
  for that first watch, I absolutely recommend giving it
• 1:09:53
  another shot because you might feel better.
• 1:09:56
  I still I still feel though having him be more directly
• 1:10:00
  involved would have made this a much better movie for me.
• 1:10:04
  That's the type of movie that I like.
• 1:10:06
  I just want a slightly cleaner ending.
• 1:10:08
  The ending could have been a little bit more tidy too.
• 1:10:10
  But I, you know, I like that. It got me to do some
• 1:10:14
  interpretation there of my own of like, what could be
• 1:10:18
  happening? What's the meaning?
• 1:10:19
  What's gonna happen? You know, it's pretty good, all
• 1:10:24
  right? What did Talia think of this?
• 1:10:28
  Well, Talia was already primed to be spooked because she'd just
• 1:10:32
  come from outside and it was raining.
• 1:10:34
  She was wet, she was grumpy. There's a lot of storming in
• 1:10:36
  this movie too. It was not great for her and she
• 1:10:39
  fell asleep as the movie was on and she was having poor little
• 1:10:42
  scary baby nightmares. She just have a big nightmares.
• 1:10:44
  Yeah. So I think she's, I think she's
• 1:10:48
  going to give this an 8 also. Yeah, yeah, it scared her.
• 1:10:52
  Was always ultimate warrior. Let's see.
• 1:11:01
  I think Zoe. I think Zoe's Ultimate warrior
• 1:11:04
  is the devil in the shadows because Zoe is a black.
• 1:11:06
  Cat and she. Just magically appears in the
• 1:11:09
  shadows all the time. She could also be the dolls
• 1:11:12
  underneath the like, the draped like whatever it is like where
• 1:11:15
  the eyes just kind of glow in darkness.
• 1:11:18
  That's what she does too, which I guess is Satan.
• 1:11:20
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:11:21
  OK, we'll make it. Satan.
• 1:11:22
  Devil. Devil.
• 1:11:25
  Say, OK, so who did you relate? To who?
• 1:11:32
  Who did I relate to? I related to Carter because I
• 1:11:41
  would need to do some heavy drinking to deal with that type
• 1:11:44
  of bullshit. You know, like, I would make an
• 1:11:48
  excuse, like, all right, we're talking about this show.
• 1:11:50
  Let's go get some drinks. Yeah.
• 1:11:59
  I guess I probably, I guess I probably relate to Harker, just
• 1:12:06
  the whole like, yeah, here's a written piece of my childhood
• 1:12:09
  I'd forgotten. My brain blocked that out for
• 1:12:11
  me. So that's fun.
• 1:12:12
  Also, I like to scream in the car, so that's fun.
• 1:12:15
  OK. Also I would relate to long legs
• 1:12:18
  cuz I also like to blast my music.
• 1:12:19
  I don't stare people down and sing at them aggressively
• 1:12:22
  though. But that's us making our
• 1:12:25
  interpretation. On yeah yeah, yeah, that's our
• 1:12:27
  own interpretation of him. OK Dream sequel.
• 1:12:34
  Long legs too. Ruby and Lee, they're their own
• 1:12:40
  buddy caught movie cuz Lee has just kind of run off with Ruby.
• 1:12:43
  There's no good way for her to explain any of this.
• 1:12:45
  She shot her boss. Yeah, and her mom.
• 1:12:48
  Yeah, stole a kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:51
  So she is a. So in this right here, she's on
• 1:12:58
  the run, yeah, with the kid, yeah.
• 1:13:00
  Maybe she like embraces Satan and like, you know, she kind of
• 1:13:05
  becomes like a anti hero type thing where she's like doing
• 1:13:09
  what she thinks is right, but she's kind of being bad in the
• 1:13:11
  process and. And maybe Ruby is being
• 1:13:14
  influenced by the doll instead of like how it was with Lee,
• 1:13:16
  where she was just kind of like passive in her childhood.
• 1:13:20
  Yeah, maybe Ruby is being influenced by the Devil in a
• 1:13:24
  panic. Oh yeah.
• 1:13:26
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see that, yeah.
• 1:13:28
  Like Harker thinks that she's doing right.
• 1:13:30
  But Ruby, it's there to like, notice her, like character flaws
• 1:13:37
  now that everything is unfolded and, you know, she has to be
• 1:13:42
  like the person to keep her on the right track or something
• 1:13:45
  like that. I don't know.
• 1:13:46
  This would be a really tough movie to do a sequel.
• 1:13:48
  To yeah, not everything needs a sequel, but we like to set this,
• 1:13:52
  this difficulty up for ourselves.
• 1:13:54
  Yeah, OK. Well, hey, we have something
• 1:13:56
  easy to do now. A tagline.
• 1:13:59
  You got one? All right.
• 1:14:01
  Long legs, short arms. T Rex.
• 1:14:10
  Perfect. Yeah.
• 1:14:12
  Long legs, short arms. T Rex.
• 1:14:16
  OK, sure. Yeah, I mean, it fits, right?
• 1:14:19
  Yeah, so we got long legs and big short arms, smaller T Rex,
• 1:14:23
  tiny underneath. That's funny.
• 1:14:27
  OK. All right.
• 1:14:29
  So I guess it's time for reviews.
• 1:14:33
  Yeah. Yes.
• 1:14:34
  OK, so I did something a little bit different.
• 1:14:36
  OK. And I went to Reddit.
• 1:14:38
  Whoa, I know dangerous, dangerous game to play.
• 1:14:42
  So I've got like 3 different reviews on them cuz they're
• 1:14:52
  obviously they're not all ranked, right?
• 1:14:55
  So it's a little bit of a different way that I pulled them
• 1:14:58
  up, but I was trying to kind of got some different ticks on the
• 1:15:01
  movie. Are you reading all three?
• 1:15:02
  Yes. OK, Well, we got a lot of listen
• 1:15:04
  reviews, so we're going to be doing a lot of.
• 1:15:06
  Reviews These are all these are all fairly short.
• 1:15:08
  OK, this one says they towed the middle too hard and either it
• 1:15:11
  either needed to be way more grounded with Nick Cage just
• 1:15:13
  being a deranged weirdo who thinks he's talking to Satan, or
• 1:15:16
  really commit to the occult element harder and earlier.
• 1:15:19
  OK. That's kind of I guess maybe
• 1:15:22
  where I was screening with a. Yeah, yeah, I agree.
• 1:15:29
  His legs were normal length. I loved how the cinematography
• 1:15:34
  built dread at the start and the cold open was terrifying.
• 1:15:37
  The rest was sort of garbled but it could have been good if it
• 1:15:39
  was structured better. Less caged screen time.
• 1:15:41
  He was the scariest when he was just out of frame.
• 1:15:44
  Overall cool concept, but not great execution.
• 1:15:47
  OK. Yeah.
• 1:15:50
  I mean, he is a little bit more scary when like they're
• 1:15:53
  withholding some of that stuff like the opening where they
• 1:15:56
  barely show him. Yeah.
• 1:15:58
  I get it. And then this one, this was kind
• 1:16:00
  of a more of slightly positive leaning because I didn't know
• 1:16:04
  how you were going to land with your feelings, but I liked this
• 1:16:07
  as an interpretation of some of the things that happened and I
• 1:16:10
  wanted to share it. OK, see, I saw it a bit
• 1:16:12
  different. All of the families in the movie
• 1:16:14
  were religious families who were obviously active in their church
• 1:16:17
  because they never once questioned the church lady.
• 1:16:19
  However, the devil managed to infect and ruin these families
• 1:16:21
  by infiltrating their homes by a false agent of faith that
• 1:16:24
  pretends to be a servant of God. The Bible warns that the devil
• 1:16:27
  can trick people by appearing as an Angel of light.
• 1:16:30
  And you have long legs who is completely covered head to toe
• 1:16:32
  in white is inspired by the Satanic Panic era, but it's a
• 1:16:36
  subversion of it. The dangers of Satan is real,
• 1:16:38
  but it's not coming from outside of the church.
• 1:16:40
  The evil hides like wolf in sheep's clothing and it's
• 1:16:43
  unknowingly being invited inside the homes of those who don't
• 1:16:45
  recognize it. It should be noted that when the
• 1:16:48
  priest showed up and got murdered along with the family,
• 1:16:50
  he immediately recognized Lee's mother.
• 1:16:52
  We see through her eyes and that something was wrong.
• 1:16:55
  He's truly good and he becomes collateral damage from long legs
• 1:16:58
  deception. Also, Lee's mother says her
• 1:17:01
  prayers never worked, but that's because she allowed the devil,
• 1:17:03
  well literally into her home. Yet Lee says she never said her
• 1:17:06
  prayers because they made her scared and she's under the
• 1:17:08
  influence of long legs the whole time, so a prayer would scare
• 1:17:11
  the actual devil. Interesting.
• 1:17:15
  OK. I like that movies can be deep
• 1:17:19
  like that and, you know, have that material there to really
• 1:17:22
  make things make sense. But I don't like having to,
• 1:17:24
  like, have done homework to understand why the movie works.
• 1:17:28
  You know what I mean? Yeah, like just make it work on
• 1:17:30
  its own and then let the details speak for itself.
• 1:17:33
  I feel like if you need to know all this stuff for a lot of it
• 1:17:35
  to make sense, and that's. I I'm going to disagree a little
• 1:17:39
  bit because I sometimes thinks that horror movies can be
• 1:17:42
  targeted to a specific type of audience and there are a lot of
• 1:17:44
  people who have religious upbringings.
• 1:17:47
  You can probably appreciate some of the depth of that in a way
• 1:17:50
  that like, I personally can't. Yeah, OK.
• 1:17:53
  Yeah. I didn't grow up with like a
• 1:17:54
  super religious family. They like practice religion, but
• 1:17:58
  you know, I definitely didn't have like the Super.
• 1:18:01
  So I guess it's like, I grew up in a religious area.
• 1:18:03
  I heard a lot of stuff, I've seen a lot of things, but I
• 1:18:06
  wasn't like necessarily active in the church through a lot of
• 1:18:10
  reasons I'm not going to get into right now.
• 1:18:12
  Right. OK.
• 1:18:14
  All right. Those were some interesting
• 1:18:15
  takes. Yeah.
• 1:18:16
  OK, OK. So let's go ahead and let's get
• 1:18:19
  to our listener reviews. I'm excited that we have so
• 1:18:21
  many. Yeah, me too, actually.
• 1:18:22
  All right, so let's see here. We will start out on Instagram.
• 1:18:30
  So First off, Ezekiel says an unsettling, haunting and dark
• 1:18:37
  film that forces you to bathe into the dread.
• 1:18:41
  Yeah, it definitely does. I mean, this movie just kind of
• 1:18:44
  drips that uneasy feeling throughout the entire time.
• 1:18:48
  A lot of it has to do with how it was shot, but the
• 1:18:51
  performances definitely help with that too.
• 1:18:53
  Absolutely. Curious Miku 8.
• 1:18:56
  It's. Jurassic Souls.
• 1:18:58
  Jurassic Souls, yes. I couldn't remember the second.
• 1:19:00
  I was going to say Jurassic Park and I was like, it's not
• 1:19:01
  Jurassic. Park.
• 1:19:02
  Yeah, I know. Jurassic Souls on other
• 1:19:04
  platforms. This was a movie that forced its
• 1:19:06
  way under my nails and chilled my spine.
• 1:19:09
  Unsettling vibe, definitely yeah yeah.
• 1:19:12
  Goes into what we were saying with the Ezekiel keepsake.
• 1:19:14
  It says needs more long legs. Yeah, I got.
• 1:19:17
  Longer legs. Yeah, it needs needs to be
• 1:19:19
  taller. It needs to look like that one
• 1:19:24
  UK player right now. Amari Williams Yeah, Big boy.
• 1:19:29
  Yeah, Amber says. I was excited for this movie and
• 1:19:33
  then I was so bored I couldn't finish No2 outs in.
• 1:19:37
  Great nap though. How do you rate the nap Amber?
• 1:19:45
  Man, if you asked Talia, that was a stressful nap for Yeah,
• 1:19:48
  no, she was not well. Rested.
• 1:19:49
  She woke up and she watched us play WWE2K25.
• 1:19:53
  Yeah, I get it. A lot more entertained by that,
• 1:19:56
  yeah. No, I I absolutely get it
• 1:19:59
  though. Yeah, that was the.
• 1:20:03
  It's not the vibe that was necessarily advertised.
• 1:20:05
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was very misleading.
• 1:20:08
  The marketing didn't do any favors, but maybe try it again.
• 1:20:12
  I I would recommend that as somebody who didn't care for as
• 1:20:15
  much the last time Tucker says. Really enjoyed this one.
• 1:20:19
  Fantastic cinematography, great acting and interesting premise.
• 1:20:23
  What's to love couldn't have been a bit longer or could have
• 1:20:26
  been a bit longer to fix the pacing issues and avoid some of
• 1:20:29
  the two exposition heavy scenes. And let it be known that I love
• 1:20:33
  Nicolas Cage in this movie. And then he also sent a picture
• 1:20:36
  of himself dressed as long as and he did a fucking good job.
• 1:20:38
  Oh. My God.
• 1:20:40
  Good job, Tucker. OK, It gives it 8 1/2 out of 10.
• 1:20:43
  OK. That's solid.
• 1:20:45
  Yeah. That pretty much echoed a lot of
• 1:20:46
  stuff that we were saying, too. All right, over on WAIT Yeah.
• 1:20:51
  Over on Blue Sky, Jason says 5 stars fit my favorite film of
• 1:20:56
  last year. Also, contrary to most people I
• 1:20:58
  talk to, I love the supernatural aspect of it.
• 1:21:01
  Lean into that shit. OK, I'm, yeah, like I said, I'm
• 1:21:05
  OK with the supernatural. It was very forthcoming about
• 1:21:08
  it. And because of that, I was able
• 1:21:10
  to like just be, just be OK with it, you know?
• 1:21:14
  Yeah, it's just, I get it. I get, you know, on 2nd watch
• 1:21:19
  I'm into more, but on 1st watch I was wanting it to be more
• 1:21:22
  grounded. I guess I was OK with having
• 1:21:24
  some of the supernatural like psychic abilities.
• 1:21:27
  But she has. What's it called?
• 1:21:30
  Yeah, Yeah. And that's cool.
• 1:21:33
  But whenever it got to the whole thing with long legs and how he
• 1:21:36
  performed his murders, that was not my thing at that time.
• 1:21:40
  And then Tyler says this one was really well done.
• 1:21:43
  There was tension and atmosphere that made me so uncomfortable
• 1:21:46
  and scared. The performances were great.
• 1:21:47
  Everyone felt like they were in a twisted Napoleon Dynamite.
• 1:21:52
  Also, she was once a nurse. Now her new occupation would be
• 1:21:56
  murdering families. A+ screen writing.
• 1:22:00
  It feels very, by the way. Yeah, No, I know.
• 1:22:03
  It's very like misery coded almost, except she like murdered
• 1:22:08
  while she was a nurse. Oh yeah yeah you're right.
• 1:22:13
  Final review from a buddy chat. Overall my favorite movie was
• 1:22:17
  2024. Saw it multiple times at the
• 1:22:19
  cinema and even more at home and every single time I see new
• 1:22:23
  things. I've been a new Cage fan since I
• 1:22:26
  was a teen and Michael Monroe is amazing in every role I've seen
• 1:22:30
  her in, even if the movie sometimes isn't the best.
• 1:22:33
  God is a Bullet for example. Everything about this film works
• 1:22:36
  for me. The vibe, the pacing, the weird
• 1:22:38
  camera angle was in all of the Satan 10 out of 10.
• 1:22:42
  You know, I expected nothing less of a review from Chad on.
• 1:22:45
  This chads probably currently the world record holder of
• 1:22:49
  people who have watched Long Legs right now.
• 1:22:51
  Yes, I think he's probably watched it two times since we
• 1:22:54
  were recording this episode. Yes, he's also the biggest
• 1:22:57
  proponent in me getting over my Nick Cage ambivalence.
• 1:23:01
  Yeah, yeah. You know, if anybody's gonna win
• 1:23:03
  you over on that one, it's Chad. I'm pretty sure I got one of his
• 1:23:06
  super patentedly aggressive high fives when I told him I was
• 1:23:10
  coming around on Nick Cage in some roles so.
• 1:23:13
  Yeah, yeah. He's not for everybody and he's
• 1:23:15
  not for every movie, but the movies that he fits well in, he
• 1:23:18
  does well. In, yes, I really loved Dream
• 1:23:20
  Scenario. I thought that was fantastic.
• 1:23:22
  Yeah, that was fantastic. Made me look at David Byrne in a
• 1:23:25
  whole new light. I look at David Byrne in the
• 1:23:29
  exact same light as I've always looked at him and.
• 1:23:34
  OK, that doesn't for this week's episode then.
• 1:23:37
  Thanks everybody for putting on your long legs and joining us
• 1:23:40
  this day. Next week we will be returning
• 1:23:44
  back to our franchise. We're gonna be talking about The
• 1:23:47
  Texas Chainsaw Massacre 22. Where can people watch that
• 1:23:51
  right now? There it is right now they can
• 1:23:55
  watch it on Tubi, Pluto TVMGM plus YouTube prime time, Sling
• 1:23:59
  TV premium, prime premium, YouTube TV premium or Philo
• 1:24:03
  premium. OK, so the two of those are free
• 1:24:05
  options. Very watchable movie.
• 1:24:08
  This one is Bill Mosley at not his most arranged, but one of
• 1:24:15
  his favorite roles for sure. Probably one of my favorite.
• 1:24:17
  For him. It'd be between that and his
• 1:24:19
  Firefly character. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:24:22
  He's, he's a, he's a good actor. I just want him to eventually be
• 1:24:26
  allowed to heat his hair. He has to shave for, shave his
• 1:24:30
  head for all of the roles he wants.
• 1:24:32
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:24:35
  So we're excited for that next week.
• 1:24:37
  Yeah. But you know what else we're
• 1:24:38
  excited for? What?
• 1:24:40
  Shouting on our bubbies. Yeah, shouting on our bubbies on
• 1:24:42
  the Patriot. Yeah.
• 1:24:44
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• 1:24:45
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