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- 2:18Speaker 1: I did read your comments. A lot of positivity in
- 2:20Speaker 1: the comments towards the show. Always appreciate your guys' feedback.
- 2:24Speaker 1: I've expressed it a number of times. The positivity is
- 2:26Speaker 1: a nice thing in this business because you don't get
- 2:28Speaker 1: that very often. I did have a couple people say
- 2:32Speaker 1: they want me to talk them off of a ledge today. Guys,
- 2:35Speaker 1: I don't know if I can talk you off the
- 2:36Speaker 1: ledge today.
- 2:37Speaker 2: It's interesting, right?
- 2:40Speaker 1: Because this is their first 4-0 start in a long time,
- 2:44Speaker 1: and we should be happy.
- 2:47Speaker 2: And we are not happy.
- 2:50Speaker 1: And that's the ups and downs of having a team
- 2:53Speaker 1: with high expectations, right? Sometimes, you know, you think about
- 2:58Speaker 1: your team losing. Now, we haven't experienced that yet, although
- 3:02Speaker 1: it feels like we have, right? But when your team loses,
- 3:05Speaker 1: sometimes you're like, oh, I just wish I had a
- 3:06Speaker 1: team with no expectations. This wouldn't hurt as much. Well,
- 3:10Speaker 1: you get a team with expectations, which means all of
- 3:13Speaker 1: the games are just that much more emotional. And this
- 3:16Speaker 1: was another one of those games. It was frustrating. Now,
- 3:19Speaker 1: before we break down the game, can I just say
- 3:21Speaker 1: one thing that drove me nuts about the game?
- 3:24Speaker 2: The broadcast.
- 3:26Speaker 1: And I get it was on ESPN +. Commentators were fine.
- 3:31Speaker 1: That is what it is. I'm not attacking anybody there.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Can I just get a microphone on the field?
- 3:36Speaker 2: Just one?
- 3:38Speaker 1: Attach it to the ref or just set it up
- 3:42Speaker 1: on the sidelines. If you can't pay anyone to walk
- 3:44Speaker 1: around with the mic, that's fine. just give me some
- 3:47Speaker 1: sort of ambiance it just felt like it was always
- 3:50Speaker 1: silent with the play-by-play crew and it was just an
- 3:53Speaker 1: awful awful uh viewing experience i would love for the
- 3:59Speaker 1: american conference i i don't start your own streaming platform
- 4:03Speaker 1: something but i i wasn't a fan of the broadcast
- 4:06Speaker 1: on saturday just because i thought the audio quality not
- 4:10Speaker 1: from the play-by-play crew itself but just can we get
- 4:12Speaker 1: some on-field audio would have been nice that was just
- 4:15Speaker 1: a complaint I had written down, I would imagine a
- 4:18Speaker 1: lot of you feel the same way.
- 4:19Speaker 2: I feel like.
- 4:21Speaker 1: The American Conference deserves a little bit better than what
- 4:25Speaker 1: you got from a broadcast standpoint there. Anyways, that's just
- 4:28Speaker 1: one of my own complaints. I figured for a moment
- 4:31Speaker 1: I'd complain about something other than this team. And I
- 4:35Speaker 1: know people want the offense to air it out. And
- 4:40Speaker 1: if I told you that USF would throw for 52 yards...
- 4:43Speaker 1: lose the time of possession battle, and turn it over twice,
- 4:46Speaker 1: you would have predicted.
- 4:47Speaker 2: A USF victory, right? No.
- 4:50Speaker 1: All of those stat lines sound like they lost. And
- 4:52Speaker 1: I know you want them to air it out. I
- 4:54Speaker 1: hear that after every single game. Why are they not
- 4:57Speaker 1: throwing it around more? Tim Beck's got to open up
- 4:59Speaker 1: this offense. I know people don't love this offense, but
- 5:03Speaker 1: this offense runs through Crowder in the running game. And
- 5:07Speaker 1: it is so easy to blame Tim Beck. But there
- 5:10Speaker 1: are so many things... that are wrong with this team
- 5:14Speaker 1: besides Tim Beck. It's easy to blame a coach or
- 5:18Speaker 1: a coordinator. That's just the natural reaction of all of football.
- 5:21Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm not sitting here saying Tim
- 5:24Speaker 1: Beck is the greatest thing since sliced bread with this offense.
- 5:27Speaker 2: I'm not.
- 5:28Speaker 1: I'm not telling you he's doing an incredible job. What
- 5:31Speaker 1: I am saying, though, is what do you want him
- 5:33Speaker 1: to do? The offensive line was awful. Again, Miles Bradley
- 5:42Speaker 1: was insane. insanely good because of your performance against that
- 5:47Speaker 1: kid i'd have to go back and see if he's
- 5:50Speaker 1: a senior or not big schools are already calling that
- 5:53Speaker 1: kid he was absolutely incredible forced two fumbles uh on
- 5:57Speaker 1: the second and was it the second and third drives
- 5:59Speaker 1: first and second driver you know early in that first
- 6:01Speaker 1: quarter he he was just so dominant the offensive line
- 6:07Speaker 1: and again starting the here's the biggest problem with the
- 6:09Speaker 1: offensive line it's like They're starting a different unit every
- 6:13Speaker 1: single week. It's already a room full of transfers. They
- 6:17Speaker 1: have never been in sync with each other. They're all
- 6:21Speaker 1: great individual players, and then you put them together, and
- 6:24Speaker 1: it's like they're just not a great unit. Now, could
- 6:28Speaker 1: that be on Tim Beck and the system not quite fitting? Maybe,
- 6:32Speaker 1: but I think you're going in too deep when you
- 6:34Speaker 1: think this is all on Tim Beck. There's a deeper
- 6:37Speaker 1: issue here. There is an execution issue. This team cannot
- 6:42Speaker 1: execute anything. And so if you can't execute anything, what
- 6:48Speaker 1: is Tim Beck supposed to call? Because I felt like
- 6:52Speaker 1: every single time MVB took a snap, the play kind
- 6:57Speaker 1: of broke down quickly. And run blocking is much easier
- 7:01Speaker 1: than pass blocking. Pass blocking is hard. That's why you
- 7:03Speaker 1: see that clip. I want to say it's from like
- 7:06Speaker 1: the early 2000s. I think it's Jeff Saturday. I know
- 7:08Speaker 1: it's Peyton Manning and the Colts. And I think it's
- 7:10Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday. Like, can we call a run for God's sakes?
- 7:13Speaker 1: You know, Peyton's yelling. I'm like, just block. You don't
- 7:15Speaker 1: worry about what we call because run blocking is a
- 7:17Speaker 1: lot easier. So this team already wanted to be a
- 7:21Speaker 1: run first team and they know what they got in Crowder.
- 7:23Speaker 1: I mean, he's an absolute, I mean, you saw that
- 7:25Speaker 1: he took over the game on Saturday, but not only
- 7:29Speaker 1: did they always want that to be their identity. That's
- 7:32Speaker 1: what they feel most comfortable with, with this offensive line.
- 7:34Speaker 1: And then you have Schrader go down. And apparently he's
- 7:38Speaker 1: on crutches after the game. I don't know the latest.
- 7:41Speaker 1: Forgive me if they if they gave one and I
- 7:43Speaker 1: missed it. But that's a big loss for this team.
- 7:46Speaker 1: He is essentially going into the season was your best
- 7:49Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I mean, some some were saying he was
- 7:52Speaker 1: projected to be NFL talent.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Right.
- 7:54Speaker 1: And so now with him out, you're going to be
- 7:58Speaker 1: forced to start another combination up front, which is just
- 8:01Speaker 1: going to be more problems if he is out long term.
- 8:06Speaker 1: And so it really all starts on offense up front,
- 8:11Speaker 1: and they don't trust this offensive line. And when you
- 8:13Speaker 1: don't have a good offensive line, it's hard to pass.
- 8:15Speaker 1: I mean, look at the Buccaneers on a Sunday, right?
- 8:17Speaker 1: You can blame Baker all you want. You can be
- 8:20Speaker 1: upset with Baker. But the offensive line is struggling to
- 8:24Speaker 1: protect him. There's not much the Bucs can do other
- 8:26Speaker 1: than run and throw screen passes because the second Baker
- 8:29Speaker 1: got the ball against the Vikings, he was getting hit. Now,
- 8:32Speaker 1: if you're watching this as a Bulls fan, you didn't
- 8:34Speaker 1: watch the Bucks game. You have no idea what I'm
- 8:35Speaker 1: talking about. My apologies, but the offensive line for the
- 8:40Speaker 1: Bulls supposed to be a strength. They game planned all
- 8:44Speaker 1: off season around this offensive line to form their identity
- 8:47Speaker 1: as a run first team, knowing they needed to lean
- 8:51Speaker 1: on the run because they thought their strength.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Was offensive line. And now the offensive line is not
- 8:55Speaker 2: a strength.
- 8:57Speaker 1: I will give Michael Van Buren some credit there before
- 9:01Speaker 1: the end of the half. I, Great awareness. It's funny
- 9:04Speaker 1: because on that final play of the first half, I
- 9:08Speaker 1: started to write down, like, you've got to be aware
- 9:10Speaker 1: of the guy on your back because I thought he
- 9:12Speaker 1: was going to get sacked. And then he runs it
- 9:14Speaker 1: for a big game, gets in field goal range, and
- 9:17Speaker 1: he gets down. And then I scratched out bad awareness,
- 9:21Speaker 1: wrote down good awareness to escape the pocket, also get
- 9:25Speaker 1: down to gate. you know, the, an opportunity for the
- 9:31Speaker 1: bulls to kick the field goal there at halftime, only
- 9:32Speaker 1: for Nico to of course miss, um, which is only
- 9:36Speaker 1: fitting for how bad of a half that was.
- 9:38Speaker 2: But, uh, that was just a little note.
- 9:39Speaker 1: That I wrote down on MVP that, uh, MVP that
- 9:42Speaker 1: I thought was kind of funny, but, uh, back to
- 9:44Speaker 1: the Tim Beck stuff, it it's, it's hard to, it's
- 9:47Speaker 1: hard to just put all of the, like, if you
- 9:50Speaker 1: have criticisms of his offense, I totally get that. Right.
- 9:55Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say wrong hire just yet because
- 9:58Speaker 1: I'm also.
- 9:59Speaker 2: I try to not to overreact, right?
- 10:02Speaker 1: I am not going to ever probably be the first
- 10:05Speaker 1: person that calls for someone's job. So that's not the
- 10:09Speaker 1: kind of show I will do right now. Now, there
- 10:13Speaker 1: could be a time down the road where I could
- 10:15Speaker 1: be out on him. But I'm not there yet. And
- 10:20Speaker 1: if you are, it's normal for fans to feel that route.
- 10:24Speaker 1: I feel like it's always coaches and quarterback first. But
- 10:28Speaker 1: to me, the real problem isn't Tim Beck. It's I
- 10:30Speaker 1: think you're very limited in what you can call because
- 10:33Speaker 1: this team is not consistent. Actually, they're consistent at one thing,
- 10:36Speaker 1: and that's they're consistently inconsistent. And like we said, we
- 10:41Speaker 1: haven't seen them play for good quarters yet.
- 10:44Speaker 2: So.
- 10:45Speaker 1: I'm not there on the judgment of Tim Beck yet.
- 10:48Speaker 1: I understand the criticism. Fire Tim Beck. That's a little
- 10:52Speaker 1: too rich for me. I can't go there just yet.
- 10:54Speaker 1: You're going to have to trust Brian Hartline that he's
- 10:56Speaker 1: got the right guy. And if Brian Hartline feels that
- 10:59Speaker 1: the play calling isn't very good, then, well, Brian Hartline's
- 11:02Speaker 1: got the power to take it back. And we've seen
- 11:04Speaker 1: teams do that before. If he feels it's truly not
- 11:07Speaker 1: going well, I'll use an example out of the NFL
- 11:11Speaker 1: last year. Ben Johnson went to the Bears. The Lions
- 11:15Speaker 1: made a new hire. That offensive coordinator they hired, they
- 11:19Speaker 1: didn't like the play calling. Dan Campbell took it over.
- 11:22Speaker 2: Guess what?
- 11:22Speaker 1: He ended up getting fired at the end of the year.
- 11:24Speaker 1: So if Brian Hartline feels the play calling is a problem,
- 11:28Speaker 1: he has the power to make that switch. I don't
- 11:30Speaker 1: think he feels the play calling is a problem because
- 11:33Speaker 1: I don't feel, and I don't know half as much
- 11:36Speaker 1: about football as Hartline, I don't think that's the problem
- 11:38Speaker 1: with this team. I think they have an execution issue,
- 11:41Speaker 1: which limits the play calling to how many things they
- 11:44Speaker 1: can do. So they are 4-0. But is it time
- 11:49Speaker 1: to start to possibly change your expectations before you end
- 11:53Speaker 1: up heartbroken? I think it is okay to change your
- 11:56Speaker 1: expectations in a season for the good or for the bad, right?
- 12:01Speaker 1: I've used this example on my radio show. If you
- 12:03Speaker 1: don't listen to me on the radio, I think you should.
- 12:05Speaker 2: 95.7 WDAE and AM620. That's how I started this whole podcast.
- 12:10Speaker 1: I got a radio show in Tampa and it's like
- 12:12Speaker 1: talking about the Tampa Bay Rays, right? When the season
- 12:15Speaker 1: first started, the expectation wasn't playoffs or win the AL
- 12:19Speaker 1: East or win a world series. But as the season
- 12:22Speaker 1: went along, the expectations changed. And if you are wondering
- 12:28Speaker 1: what my expectation is, it's world series or bust. You
- 12:30Speaker 1: got to win because of the box. So the bolts
- 12:32Speaker 1: were in that position. number one seed going into the playoffs,
- 12:36Speaker 1: they'd have the same expectations. And so I think that
- 12:38Speaker 1: should be the expectation of the Rays. But back to
- 12:40Speaker 1: the Bulls. The expectation going into the season was to
- 12:44Speaker 1: win the American Conference and go to the college football playoff.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Those were the two goals that you set out for
- 12:53Speaker 1: this team. And that is the goals that they set
- 12:56Speaker 1: out for this team. And that's why they haven't been
- 12:58Speaker 1: happy with what they've seen on the field so far,
- 13:00Speaker 1: because they know what they have seen is not getting
- 13:04Speaker 1: them either of their goals. Now, they are not going
- 13:08Speaker 1: to run the table unless something drastically changes and this
- 13:12Speaker 1: team learns how to play four full quarters.
- 13:18Speaker 2: It's a tough one to say.
- 13:19Speaker 1: Until that happens, and it feels like there's no sign
- 13:22Speaker 1: of that, I think your expectation can still be.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Winning the American Conference.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Even if they do, I don't know if that's going
- 13:35Speaker 1: to get you to the college football playoff. I did
- 13:38Speaker 1: see that Boise State is already ranked, and they should be.
- 13:41Speaker 1: They just blew out a really good Western Michigan team.
- 13:44Speaker 1: They hung in there with Oregon, and Oregon just had
- 13:45Speaker 1: that big win against USC this weekend. So their resume
- 13:49Speaker 1: looks pretty good, and USF didn't play one of those
- 13:51Speaker 1: caliber teams to see how they would look against a
- 13:55Speaker 1: power four. So you've already got that against you. Now,
- 13:58Speaker 1: just because they didn't schedule a power forward doesn't mean
- 14:00Speaker 1: they still can't get to the playoffs. I will say
- 14:02Speaker 1: that you're actively rooting against Boise State, that's for sure. But,
- 14:08Speaker 1: you know, right now I'm not focused on the college
- 14:10Speaker 1: football playoff. It really is just win the American, I think,
- 14:16Speaker 1: is your goal. And right now I don't feel good
- 14:19Speaker 1: about that either. You know, I've had a lot of
- 14:21Speaker 1: people reach out asking me, because I put out rankings
- 14:25Speaker 1: every single week. You can usually find those on my
- 14:27Speaker 1: social media handle by Sunday morning. I start working on
- 14:33Speaker 1: those Saturday night as I'm watching the late night games.
- 14:35Speaker 1: And I put a lot of thought into those. I
- 14:38Speaker 1: watch all the games and I take pride in my rankings.
- 14:42Speaker 1: And I try to do it a little unethical. And
- 14:46Speaker 1: by unethical, I mean I try to do what the
- 14:49Speaker 1: AP poll won't do because the AP poll is kind
- 14:52Speaker 1: of silly. I mean, for example, we all remember when
- 14:55Speaker 1: USF was still ranked behind the Gators by AP voters.
- 15:00Speaker 2: That happened again this week.
- 15:01Speaker 1: There was an AP voter that has Ole Miss ahead
- 15:04Speaker 1: of Florida, and it's like, what are we doing? So
- 15:06Speaker 1: when I do my rankings, I try to be unethical.
- 15:09Speaker 1: To me, it doesn't matter where a team is ranked before.
- 15:12Speaker 1: I will change my mind on teams the more information
- 15:15Speaker 1: we get. People think my rankings are crazy. I look
- 15:20Speaker 1: at Florida as one of the best teams in the country,
- 15:22Speaker 1: so I just put them up there. I like their resume,
- 15:23Speaker 1: and I like what I've seen out of them. And
- 15:26Speaker 1: so I don't have USF in my top 25. And
- 15:30Speaker 1: that got me a couple messages from Bulls fans, which,
- 15:32Speaker 1: by the way, I appreciate you guys reaching out. I
- 15:33Speaker 1: appreciate you following me, asking me why they're not in
- 15:36Speaker 1: the top 25 being undefeated. And look, there's a number
- 15:40Speaker 1: of teams that are undefeated that aren't in the top
- 15:42Speaker 1: 25 that have played tougher opponents than USF has played.
- 15:47Speaker 1: So there's a number of teams that fall in that
- 15:50Speaker 1: same category you fall under. But When I'm sitting here
- 15:54Speaker 1: and I'm looking at all of these teams and watching
- 15:56Speaker 1: these games, and I'm trying to grade USF, and look,
- 16:01Speaker 1: obviously I have a little bit of bias there.
- 16:02Speaker 2: I want them to do good.
- 16:04Speaker 1: I think the better they do, the more people are
- 16:05Speaker 1: watching this, but I can't sit here and come on
- 16:08Speaker 1: this podcast or put USF in my top 25 and
- 16:12Speaker 1: say that with a straight face because there is nothing
- 16:15Speaker 1: about this team that looks like a top 25 team.
- 16:19Speaker 1: If they were playing last year's schedule, They are one
- 16:28Speaker 1: in three right now. And they are far from a
- 16:34Speaker 1: top 25 team. That's just the reality. Now, can they
- 16:37Speaker 1: get there? Yes, but a lot of things have to change.
- 16:43Speaker 1: I really think that your best case scenario is win
- 16:47Speaker 1: the American, and that's going to be an uphill battle.
- 16:50Speaker 1: Playing the way that they're playing right now, I don't
- 16:51Speaker 1: think the American is something they can accomplish. But I
- 16:55Speaker 1: don't think it's out of the realm either. But if
- 16:59Speaker 1: your goal, and you aren't going to be happy with
- 17:01Speaker 1: anything other than the college football playoff, which I do
- 17:04Speaker 1: believe that is the case for a lot of fans
- 17:06Speaker 1: because you felt like you were so close last year.
- 17:11Speaker 1: And you almost tasted it, right? And then your coach,
- 17:15Speaker 1: maybe he's not focused. Whatever the problem may be there,
- 17:18Speaker 1: a lot of things came up. He takes the new job.
- 17:22Speaker 1: You end up losing the Navy and it kind of
- 17:24Speaker 1: ruined everything. But you were on the doorstep. You tasted it.
- 17:27Speaker 1: You got that feeling. And I get it. I've been
- 17:32Speaker 1: there as a sports fan too. And when you taste
- 17:34Speaker 1: something like that, you just want it so badly. And
- 17:36Speaker 1: so you come into the season and that is your expectation.
- 17:39Speaker 1: And I know that's all you want. And look, the
- 17:43Speaker 1: way that this program is going, the direction that it's going,
- 17:45Speaker 1: building its own stadium, the NIL is there. We believe
- 17:48Speaker 1: the coaching staff is in place for the most part.
- 17:52Speaker 1: I do think playoff expectations every year should be your expectation. This,
- 17:56Speaker 1: to me right now, does not look like a playoff team.
- 17:59Speaker 1: I can't lie to you. I don't think they're a
- 18:01Speaker 1: playoff team right now unless they truly grow big time. Now,
- 18:06Speaker 1: that's going to be on Coach Hartline. If he can
- 18:08Speaker 1: turn this around, because we do believe the talent is there.
- 18:11Speaker 1: But see, this is the thing when it comes with
- 18:13Speaker 1: transfer portals and so much movement in college football. You
- 18:18Speaker 1: can take all the talent in the world, but if...
- 18:22Speaker 1: they don't gel together on the field and work is
- 18:27Speaker 1: one it doesn't matter how much talent you have if
- 18:30Speaker 1: they just don't produce together now it's it's kind of
- 18:34Speaker 1: interesting we're seeing this on the field because i feel
- 18:37Speaker 1: off the field these guys are so close to one
- 18:38Speaker 1: another and that's what's surprising me that it's not clicking
- 18:42Speaker 1: yet is that this is a unit that off the
- 18:44Speaker 1: field is really close and i thought that would kind
- 18:46Speaker 1: of help and i thought you would see that translation
- 18:49Speaker 1: on the field and we just we have not But no,
- 18:53Speaker 1: they are not a top 25 team. They are nowhere
- 18:56Speaker 1: near my top 25 rankings right now. I want nothing
- 18:59Speaker 1: more than to put that USF logo in those rankings.
- 19:03Speaker 1: But if I do that to you, then I lose credibility.
- 19:07Speaker 1: Because if I put them in the top 25, for
- 19:10Speaker 1: those that did reach out asking why they weren't in there,
- 19:13Speaker 1: and I come on this show today and I tell
- 19:15Speaker 1: you that they are a top 25 team, you're not
- 19:19Speaker 1: going to trust me anymore. because I'm telling you a
- 19:23Speaker 1: lie what I will never do I believe in this
- 19:26Speaker 1: on the radio and I believe this on this show
- 19:29Speaker 1: I am never going to tell you what you want
- 19:32Speaker 1: to hear like that's just not what I can now
- 19:35Speaker 1: sometimes I will say things that might make you feel
- 19:37Speaker 1: better and I feel like maybe I did that weeks
- 19:39Speaker 1: one through three there's nothing I can say about this
- 19:42Speaker 1: game that's going to make you feel better I can't
- 19:44Speaker 1: pander to that I can only give you my honest
- 19:47Speaker 1: opinion of this team and I'm never going to sugarcoat
- 19:50Speaker 1: it just to tell you what you want to hear.
- 19:54Speaker 2: I just, I won't.
- 19:56Speaker 1: And in today's one of those episodes, there's no sugarcoat
- 19:58Speaker 1: what happened on Saturday. It was a bad look to
- 20:01Speaker 1: not score on that team until the fourth quarter. A
- 20:06Speaker 1: team that gave up, I believe, 21 to Tarleton State.
- 20:08Speaker 1: 50 plus to the two power four teams that they played.
- 20:14Speaker 1: That was supposed to be, I had it at a
- 20:17Speaker 1: 31-14 game. Just missing the Vegas spread by a point.
- 20:21Speaker 1: That's 17 and a half that the number originally opened.
- 20:24Speaker 1: I had you at 31-14. Boy, was I around 14-6?
- 20:30Speaker 1: And it took the running game in the fourth quarter.
- 20:32Speaker 1: I do want to highlight a couple players, though, that
- 20:34Speaker 1: deserve some credit. Levi Smiley, that sack on the third possession,
- 20:38Speaker 1: that was huge. Michael Williams, he got one, and the
- 20:43Speaker 1: second fumble from the Bulls offense ended up not being
- 20:47Speaker 1: any harm to this team, thank God. Defense was lights out.
- 20:51Speaker 1: I do got to give the credit to the defense.
- 20:54Speaker 1: There is some positive things to say about the defense.
- 20:57Speaker 1: They locked down, backs against the wall, offense put them
- 21:00Speaker 1: in really bad situations. And the defense held it down.
- 21:04Speaker 1: You know, both of those field goals come off of
- 21:06Speaker 1: turnovers from the offense. So I guess there is positivity
- 21:11Speaker 1: coming out of that game. And it is the defense.
- 21:14Speaker 1: And I guess if you're looking for another positive, these
- 21:17Speaker 1: guys know how to win in pretty much every situation now,
- 21:19Speaker 1: because they've been in every scenario. Now they can win
- 21:22Speaker 1: a last second game. They can win a game where
- 21:24Speaker 1: they just need to pound the rock and get out
- 21:27Speaker 1: of there, win ugly. They can win in a blowout.
- 21:28Speaker 1: Like they did Delaware state. Like, They've now won in
- 21:32Speaker 1: different ways each time. But it still doesn't mean I'm
- 21:37Speaker 1: happy with the way that they're winning. So the defense,
- 21:42Speaker 1: I'm very happy with. But the offense is so concerning
- 21:44Speaker 1: right now. And it's like, we never get a game
- 21:47Speaker 1: where they both compliment each other. You know, week one,
- 21:50Speaker 1: it was the defense, offense, turd. Week two, both of
- 21:56Speaker 1: them had their moments together. I thought at times the
- 21:59Speaker 1: defense is giving up way too many yards per carry.
- 22:01Speaker 1: And then I thought at the end of the first
- 22:04Speaker 1: half of the Army game, you knew they were throwing.
- 22:06Speaker 1: You still couldn't cover them, and they throw the touchdown
- 22:08Speaker 1: in the end zone. And then there was the Delaware
- 22:11Speaker 1: State game where you gave up really big plays, a
- 22:14Speaker 1: 90-yarder and a 50-yarder in the first half. And the
- 22:18Speaker 1: offense really scored 21 points in that first half. But
- 22:21Speaker 1: it's Delaware State. I'm not crazy about 21.
- 22:25Speaker 2: I wanted more. Call me greedy.
- 22:27Speaker 1: So it's like the offense and the defense haven't played
- 22:31Speaker 1: their best yet together. So when I say they haven't
- 22:36Speaker 1: played a good solid four quarters, it's both units together
- 22:40Speaker 1: haven't played a solid four quarters. The defense played a
- 22:42Speaker 1: solid four quarters on Saturday. I give them that.
- 22:47Speaker 2: The defense played a solid four quarters in week number one.
- 22:52Speaker 1: So we've seen the defense do it a couple times.
- 22:54Speaker 2: We've yet to see the offense do it.
- 22:56Speaker 1: But I did want to give a lot of credit
- 22:59Speaker 1: to Levi Smiley and Michael Williams because those were two
- 23:02Speaker 1: massive plays. Whenever I'm watching a game, I like to
- 23:05Speaker 1: keep little notes. And I did write down, you know,
- 23:09Speaker 1: this could be a game-changing play if the game flow
- 23:15Speaker 1: continues to play out like this. And it did continue
- 23:19Speaker 1: to play out like that, unfortunately. You know, we talked
- 23:22Speaker 1: a lot about red flags recently. On the last episode,
- 23:26Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage right now, it's the biggest red
- 23:28Speaker 1: flag on this team. The defensive line outside of Miles
- 23:33Speaker 1: Bradley for Bowling Green and all of the games that
- 23:39Speaker 1: I had watched and all the research that I have
- 23:42Speaker 1: done to prepare for last week's show, that was the
- 23:45Speaker 1: weakness of their offense. And it showed in the fourth
- 23:49Speaker 1: quarter when the run game started to go. It's like
- 23:52Speaker 1: it kind of wore them out. But their defensive line,
- 23:56Speaker 1: like I said, you made Miles Bradley look like a
- 23:58Speaker 1: first-round pick. I think he ended up with four and
- 24:00Speaker 1: a half sacks. You know, and if Thomas Schrader, if
- 24:03Speaker 1: that injury is long-term, I don't know where they're going
- 24:06Speaker 1: to go from here. You got Temple this Saturday night
- 24:08Speaker 1: at 730, and then it's going to be a Thursday
- 24:11Speaker 1: night against UTSA.
- 24:14Speaker 2: Right? I'm pretty sure I got that schedule right. Do
- 24:18Speaker 2: I not? Let me check just to be sure. I
- 24:20Speaker 2: know it's Temple this weekend. That's a 730 schedule.
- 24:21Speaker 1: 7.30 game, but I believe it's the UTSA game after that.
- 24:26Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. So it's going to be a short week.
- 24:29Speaker 1: So Temple on Saturday, and then you're going to turn around,
- 24:32Speaker 1: and you've got UTSA on Thursday night. Do they play
- 24:36Speaker 1: on a Thursday night the same? Them and the Bucs
- 24:41Speaker 1: play the same Thursday night? You've got to be kidding me.
- 24:46Speaker 1: That is unbelievable.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Yeah, they do.
- 24:50Speaker 1: Usf thursday october 8th 7 30 buccaneers october 8th 8 15.
- 24:56Speaker 2: That sucks.
- 24:59Speaker 1: You know even when the bulls are the better team
- 25:02Speaker 1: they don't get the spotlight they deserve the nfl screwed
- 25:05Speaker 1: that one up i don't know whose schedule comes out
- 25:07Speaker 1: first but whoever schedule came out second you screwed that
- 25:11Speaker 1: one up to put those two on at the same
- 25:13Speaker 1: time but uh Yeah, the offensive line is a massive
- 25:20Speaker 1: red flag, and until that gets turned around, I don't
- 25:22Speaker 1: have a lot of faith in these guys, like accomplishing
- 25:24Speaker 1: the goals that you want them to accomplish. Looking at
- 25:26Speaker 1: some of the numbers in this game, the number 52,
- 25:30Speaker 1: that number represents Michael Van Buren Jr. 's passing yards.
- 25:35Speaker 1: That is not something I expected to see. It wasn't
- 25:38Speaker 1: like you went to Bowling Green in November, weather was bad, oh,
- 25:40Speaker 1: we had to run a lot. No, it was like
- 25:42Speaker 1: a 70-degree day. The weather was perfect. Just couldn't get
- 25:46Speaker 1: anything going. Now, he didn't drop back and throw it
- 25:48Speaker 1: all around. It's not like they were throwing it a lot.
- 25:51Speaker 1: I just feel like, again, they didn't trust the pass blocking.
- 25:54Speaker 2: 143.
- 25:55Speaker 1: That number represents the rushing yards Crowder had. 6.2 is
- 26:00Speaker 1: how many yards per carry he had. And the number
- 26:04Speaker 1: 116 is USF yards on its two fourth quarter touchdown drives.
- 26:09Speaker 2: Think about that.
- 26:10Speaker 1: Majority of the yards came there in the fourth quarter.
- 26:14Speaker 1: USF had 98 yards in the first 45 minutes of that.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Game, 98.
- 26:19Speaker 1: Then they had 116 on the final two drives in
- 26:23Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. There's something about this team though, that
- 26:26Speaker 1: I do like, they do have that. It's like that.
- 26:32Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 26:32Speaker 1: Like when, when their backs are against the wall, they,
- 26:35Speaker 1: they somehow are able to kind of like come together
- 26:39Speaker 1: and get it done.
- 26:39Speaker 2: Right.
- 26:40Speaker 1: Like army it, Army was the final two drives. This game,
- 26:43Speaker 1: final two drives. That's the one thing I will say
- 26:45Speaker 1: about USF, is that if it is a one-score game
- 26:48Speaker 1: and they have the ball last, there's a good chance
- 26:52Speaker 1: that they either tie it or they beat you. You know,
- 26:55Speaker 1: that is the one time when I do have the
- 26:57Speaker 1: faith in the offense. Like, even as bad as they played,
- 27:02Speaker 1: and even though it came down to the fourth quarter
- 27:04Speaker 1: before they were scoring, I still never felt like they
- 27:06Speaker 1: were going to lose the game. It just felt like
- 27:09Speaker 1: you could tell that they were were the more skilled
- 27:12Speaker 1: team it just wasn't showing uh really on the field
- 27:16Speaker 1: or on the scoreboard and then of course it did
- 27:18Speaker 1: finally show uh in that fourth quarter i think you
- 27:21Speaker 1: just wear bowling green down but against better opponents that's
- 27:24Speaker 1: not going to happen like you're not going to just
- 27:26Speaker 1: be able to wear down utsa or memphis the way
- 27:30Speaker 1: that you wore bowling green down there at the end
- 27:32Speaker 1: by run run run run run uh the number four
- 27:36Speaker 1: and a half that is the sax miles bradley hat
- 27:38Speaker 1: on you not good 85 is the amount of rushing
- 27:43Speaker 1: yards Bowling Green had on you. So just a tremendous
- 27:46Speaker 1: job by the defense. But that is by the numbers
- 27:51Speaker 1: for this game. We went to the mailbag. I put
- 27:54Speaker 1: that out on Twitter on Saturday night asking you to
- 27:56Speaker 1: send me some feedback or send me some questions for
- 27:59Speaker 1: the podcast. I always enjoy doing this segment because it
- 28:02Speaker 1: gives you an opportunity to ask your questions and I'll
- 28:06Speaker 1: try to answer them. Bearish Bulls fan asked, we need
- 28:10Speaker 1: to know what Tim Beck is telling the offense after
- 28:12Speaker 1: a performance like that. Should we expect the same thing
- 28:14Speaker 1: against Temple?
- 28:16Speaker 2: There is.
- 28:18Speaker 1: Nothing that tells me you won't see the same thing
- 28:21Speaker 1: against Temple. My guess is Tim Beck is, I don't
- 28:25Speaker 1: think he's yelling and screaming at the guys or singling
- 28:29Speaker 1: out a certain person, but again, I think it all
- 28:31Speaker 1: starts up front. And I would imagine that's where Tim
- 28:33Speaker 1: Beck's conversations are beginning. Like, what what can we do
- 28:38Speaker 1: in this offense to compensate for this problem? We have
- 28:42Speaker 1: an offensive line because this unit is just not what
- 28:46Speaker 1: we thought they would be. So I don't know exactly
- 28:48Speaker 1: what he's telling them, but I would imagine they are
- 28:51Speaker 1: trying to figure out how can we incorporate more plays
- 28:55Speaker 1: into this offense with this offensive line? We don't trust.
- 28:59Speaker 1: Cause again, when your offensive line is, it's not good. Like,
- 29:02Speaker 1: like there's right now, there's only so many things you
- 29:04Speaker 1: can call and it, Obviously, a bad offensive line is
- 29:08Speaker 1: going to make the offensive coordinator look worse than maybe
- 29:11Speaker 1: he might be.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Let's see. Sane guy.
- 29:16Speaker 1: How deep is the O-line, and why does this offense
- 29:19Speaker 1: consistently fail to get the wide receivers involved? On the
- 29:22Speaker 1: flip side, our defense did step it up this week. Yeah,
- 29:25Speaker 1: the defense was great. Defensive line, it felt like they
- 29:27Speaker 1: were in the backfield. Anytime you needed pressure, they delivered.
- 29:31Speaker 1: Defensive line, I thought they played excellent for USF this weekend.
- 29:36Speaker 2: That was really encouraging. Uh, that, that was probably the
- 29:39Speaker 2: best game.
- 29:39Speaker 1: I think, you know, from start to finish, they've seen
- 29:41Speaker 1: from the defensive line, uh, it felt like they were
- 29:43Speaker 1: in the backfield all day.
- 29:44Speaker 2: They did a really good job.
- 29:46Speaker 1: And again, you held them to just 85 rushing yards. Um,
- 29:52Speaker 1: and when we talked to, to Xavier Hamilton last week, who,
- 29:54Speaker 1: by the way, had a great game, he said they
- 29:56Speaker 1: were focused on stopping the run and they did that. Uh,
- 30:00Speaker 1: So I think the defensive line, that is one thing
- 30:03Speaker 1: you can take into the next game.
- 30:04Speaker 2: That is encouraging.
- 30:06Speaker 1: As far as how deep the O-line is, the O-line's deep.
- 30:10Speaker 1: There is, I believe, 18 total guys in that room,
- 30:14Speaker 1: and 15 of them are over 300 pounds. And a
- 30:17Speaker 1: lot of them are talented. The problem is we haven't
- 30:20Speaker 1: seen any of these talented players be talented as a
- 30:24Speaker 1: group of five. And that's the real... And that's not
- 30:27Speaker 1: something I think that gets fixed because... You had all
- 30:30Speaker 1: the time in the world to get that continuity built
- 30:33Speaker 1: this offseason, and now you've had four games this season,
- 30:37Speaker 1: and it's still not fixed. And now with Schrader down,
- 30:41Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to see a better
- 30:43Speaker 1: offensive line.
- 30:44Speaker 2: That, to me, is probably.
- 30:46Speaker 1: Going to be what falters this team from a perfect
- 30:51Speaker 1: season down the road. Michael Ferguson asked a genuine question, Nick.
- 30:56Speaker 1: What is Tim Beck doing? I mean, with I mean
- 30:59Speaker 1: that with full sincerity. I feel like I've kind of
- 31:03Speaker 1: hit this a number of times. I mean, if you're
- 31:05Speaker 1: listening to the entire podcast, how many different ways can
- 31:08Speaker 1: I really express this? I'm not there on it. See,
- 31:12Speaker 1: I just always feel like it's too easy to just
- 31:16Speaker 1: go coach and quarterback right away, right? It's like on
- 31:20Speaker 1: my radio show today talking about the Bucs. It's Baker
- 31:23Speaker 1: and Bowles is who everybody wants to blame, and they
- 31:26Speaker 1: deserve a fair share of blame.
- 31:27Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong.
- 31:29Speaker 1: Ownership, you know, above, right? You look at the layers
- 31:34Speaker 1: of the box. Well, Baker sucks because his coordinator sucks. Well,
- 31:37Speaker 1: his coordinator sucks because Todd Bowles is a lame duck
- 31:40Speaker 1: head coach. Nobody wants to work for him because there's
- 31:42Speaker 1: no job security. Well, the coach is there because ownership
- 31:44Speaker 1: didn't make a decision. And then it's all a mess, right?
- 31:48Speaker 1: There's layers of these things. So it's hard for me
- 31:51Speaker 1: to just say Tim Beck, right? Yeah, the offense doesn't
- 31:55Speaker 1: look great. But is it a scheme? Is it the execution?
- 31:59Speaker 1: I think a lot of it really has nothing to
- 32:02Speaker 1: do with predictability. Bowling Green, at the end of that game,
- 32:04Speaker 1: they knew you were running it. They could not stop it.
- 32:08Speaker 1: They knew your game plan going into the game. I
- 32:11Speaker 1: knew the game plan going into the game, and you
- 32:13Speaker 1: knew the game plan going into the game.
- 32:14Speaker 2: They were going to run it.
- 32:16Speaker 1: Bowling Green still couldn't stop it there in the fourth
- 32:17Speaker 1: quarter when they knew the run was coming. So the
- 32:21Speaker 1: problem with Tim Beck and the offense, again, is they
- 32:25Speaker 1: can't develop anything. You got these wide receivers, but are
- 32:28Speaker 1: they having, are they, I look, I don't have access
- 32:31Speaker 1: to the all 22 film. I'd like to see it,
- 32:33Speaker 1: but are the wide receivers even given enough time to
- 32:36Speaker 1: run the route with.
- 32:37Speaker 2: With the way that it was just, it was a
- 32:38Speaker 2: mess of the blocking.
- 32:40Speaker 1: Miles Bradley looked like miles Garrett out there.
- 32:44Speaker 2: It just, it was such a poor display.
- 32:47Speaker 1: And look, I guess if you want to blame the
- 32:50Speaker 1: offensive line on Tim Beck, and maybe they're just not
- 32:52Speaker 1: getting his scheme, then, then, There, I guess you could say, yeah,
- 32:57Speaker 1: he's a problem. To me, I always try to... I
- 33:00Speaker 1: feel like it's a cop-out as a broadcaster to just
- 33:03Speaker 1: say coach right away or quarterback right away. There's deeper
- 33:08Speaker 1: things to all of that. I think there's a deeper
- 33:09Speaker 1: issue here than just Tim Beck. I think you could
- 33:12Speaker 1: have the best play caller in the world. I think
- 33:15Speaker 1: you could have Sean McVay as your play caller. I'm
- 33:18Speaker 1: not sure how much different the offense would look. You
- 33:22Speaker 1: can call all the plays you want, but If you
- 33:24Speaker 1: can't execute anything, especially at the line of scrimmage, well,
- 33:28Speaker 1: what good is Sean McVay going to be?
- 33:32Speaker 2: Let's see.
- 33:33Speaker 1: Greg, number one on the O-line, beyond the typical coaching blame,
- 33:37Speaker 1: was staff's transfer portal evaluations made in haste due to
- 33:42Speaker 1: enormous turnover replacement needs? Let me try that again. Was
- 33:46Speaker 1: the staff's transfer portal evaluations? Well, look, USF is going
- 33:50Speaker 1: to be... Look, they're one of those programs that when
- 33:53Speaker 1: they do good, plus you lost your coach. So you
- 33:55Speaker 1: had two things go in there. You lose your coach.
- 33:57Speaker 1: He gets promoted. The sec takes, you know, some players
- 34:00Speaker 1: with him. I mean, that's just college fall in general,
- 34:04Speaker 1: but especially at the group of six level, you know, you,
- 34:07Speaker 1: you're going to have players plucked. Like this is unfortunately
- 34:10Speaker 1: the new normal where maybe not to this extent.
- 34:14Speaker 2: Like this year it was 60, 61 new players.
- 34:18Speaker 1: You know, with the incoming freshmen and the 41 transfers
- 34:21Speaker 1: or something like that, 61, 65, it might not be
- 34:24Speaker 1: like that every single year, but that is the new normal.
- 34:27Speaker 1: And that to me is going to be the biggest
- 34:30Speaker 1: downfall of the, I shouldn't say downfall of the program,
- 34:33Speaker 1: but that's what's going to hurt the program the most
- 34:37Speaker 1: is that you're not going to get guys playing together
- 34:42Speaker 1: for three or four years like you once would. And so,
- 34:46Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you got to have excellent scouting and
- 34:50Speaker 1: you got to be able to make the right, like,
- 34:51Speaker 1: that's what I think kills Florida state. They, their scouts
- 34:55Speaker 1: let them down. They go and recruit the wrong quarterback
- 34:58Speaker 1: every year. Kurt Cignetti at Indiana. I think he is
- 35:01Speaker 1: a trim. He knows he can develop, he can seek talent.
- 35:04Speaker 1: He finds it. And then he can also further develop it.
- 35:07Speaker 1: But like, I look at Norvell and I'll be like, yeah,
- 35:10Speaker 1: he could never be a GM in the NFL. He
- 35:11Speaker 1: can't identify talent. Then I look at Cignetti at Indiana.
- 35:14Speaker 1: It's like, He's doing the same thing Norvell is. He
- 35:16Speaker 1: just can identify the talent, right? Fernando Mendoza, see him
- 35:20Speaker 1: at Cal, I'm going to bring him over here, I'm
- 35:21Speaker 1: going to win a natty. Meanwhile, Norvell's like, oh, I'm
- 35:23Speaker 1: going to grab DJ Uyunglele because he was a five-star
- 35:26Speaker 1: recruit out of high school, but he hasn't done anything
- 35:28Speaker 1: in college.
- 35:29Speaker 2: I'm going to bring him here and try to develop him.
- 35:30Speaker 2: And it just doesn't work out that way.
- 35:33Speaker 1: So I think this day and age, your scouting department
- 35:37Speaker 1: and your coordinators have to be so good at being
- 35:41Speaker 1: able to identify talent. because your talent is going to
- 35:45Speaker 1: get plucked and you're also going to pluck talent from others.
- 35:48Speaker 1: But that is going to be something this year where,
- 35:51Speaker 1: or not this year, but going forward, like that is,
- 35:55Speaker 1: I mean, that's the new world of college football. You're
- 35:57Speaker 1: going to have probably enormous turnover every single year. There
- 36:01Speaker 1: was a second part to his question. I started with
- 36:04Speaker 1: agreement of experts, average wins at eight. Then I bought
- 36:08Speaker 1: into 9-10 by the Army win, but with the O-line
- 36:11Speaker 1: regression against Bowling Green.
- 36:13Speaker 2: I'm at 8. How about you?
- 36:14Speaker 1: Well, I started the season off at 10, and I
- 36:18Speaker 1: guess we could kind of have fun with this every
- 36:20Speaker 1: week and come to the table and go, all right,
- 36:21Speaker 1: have you changed your mind off of 10? I guess
- 36:26Speaker 1: if you put me to the table now, let's see.
- 36:33Speaker 1: Looking at the schedule ahead, Temple this weekend. They'll get
- 36:39Speaker 1: it done against Temple being at home. What is the
- 36:42Speaker 1: spread of the Temple game? What did that open up at,
- 36:45Speaker 1: USF and Temple spread?
- 36:46Speaker 2: Let me check. I'm actually kind of curious. I haven't
- 36:51Speaker 2: deep-dived into Temple yet.
- 36:54Speaker 1: I'll obviously do that before I do the preview show,
- 36:57Speaker 1: but I have not deep-dived into them. All right, USF's
- 37:00Speaker 1: minus 6.5. That's about what I thought it would be.
- 37:02Speaker 1: I was going to say 7.5, but after the performance
- 37:05Speaker 1: against Bowling Green, I guess I could see why. I
- 37:08Speaker 1: still like them to get the job done against Temple. UTSA,
- 37:12Speaker 1: I had that as a loss at the beginning of
- 37:14Speaker 1: the season. UTSA, Memphis, and Tulane, I just.
- 37:20Speaker 1: Tulane, he got it home. Maybe some things start changing.
- 37:23Speaker 1: Right now, if you sat me down and said, all right,
- 37:28Speaker 1: I need you to predict how many games this team
- 37:30Speaker 1: is going to win. And if you get this number wrong,
- 37:33Speaker 1: I'm taking your cute puppies from you, you lose your house,
- 37:36Speaker 1: your wife, your car right and i had to get
- 37:39Speaker 1: this right looking at the schedule i'd probably tell you.
- 37:44Speaker 2: Eight wins and that would be utsa memphis two.
- 37:50Speaker 1: Lane and then throw a random l in there right
- 37:54Speaker 1: that's that's gun to my head i still think the
- 37:57Speaker 1: ceiling is probably 10 wins and i think the floor
- 38:01Speaker 1: is probably i don't want to say you know what
- 38:04Speaker 1: i don't even want to talk about the floor but Yeah,
- 38:08Speaker 1: I guess I've changed a little bit. I'm no longer
- 38:11Speaker 1: at the 10 number. But they can also change my
- 38:14Speaker 1: mind and get me back to the 10 number. And
- 38:17Speaker 1: that starts Saturday. Now, if you can rip off these
- 38:20Speaker 1: next two, you go 6-0 against UTSA, then my expectation changes.
- 38:25Speaker 2: Because I think UTSA is a really good team.
- 38:28Speaker 1: My expectation will change if you are able to win
- 38:32Speaker 1: the next two and you start off at 6-0. Let's see,
- 38:39Speaker 1: Kurt Olson, what are the chances we change our scheme?
- 38:44Speaker 2: No chance.
- 38:45Speaker 1: I don't think they're changing the scheme. USApples horns up
- 38:49Speaker 1: on Twitter. What's going on with the O-line? I just
- 38:53Speaker 1: think there's no consistency. You're constantly, it's a revolving door.
- 38:56Speaker 1: You're playing with a bunch of different line combinations. These
- 38:58Speaker 1: guys just, they were already new to begin with, and
- 39:01Speaker 1: then every single week it seems to be new. So
- 39:04Speaker 1: there's just, they haven't gelled yet. It's bottom line. Matthew Ferguson,
- 39:10Speaker 1: should there be concern with the low offensive output this
- 39:14Speaker 1: past game? Yeah, 100%. We're pretty close to code red.
- 39:20Speaker 1: I can't even sugarcoat it. Yeah, there's concern. If you're
- 39:26Speaker 1: not concerned, then you're one of those fans It's just like,
- 39:28Speaker 1: you're like my dad where it can be the worst outcome.
- 39:31Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, you know what?
- 39:32Speaker 1: We still got a chance at the natty. I'm like, no,
- 39:33Speaker 1: we don't like we don't, we don't have a chance
- 39:36Speaker 1: at a natty. Uh, so if you're not concerned about
- 39:39Speaker 1: the offensive line, then you're too positive for me. Um,
- 39:43Speaker 1: because yeah, there's, there's reason to, to have concern a
- 39:46Speaker 1: hundred percent. Uh, I don't even know if I'm pronouncing
- 39:51Speaker 1: that right. The O-line situation is hell. They keep shifting
- 39:55Speaker 1: guys because of injuries with Wooten out. Schrader shifts to
- 39:58Speaker 1: tackle was a mismatch, directly led to the two fumbles
- 40:02Speaker 1: in most of the sacks. Yeah, you know, when you
- 40:05Speaker 1: got guys, like, see, here in Tampa Bay, we see
- 40:08Speaker 1: Tristan Wirfs go from right tackle to left tackle, and
- 40:10Speaker 1: it's like, oh, which, by the way, he's struggling at
- 40:12Speaker 1: left tackle now, but last year he was great at
- 40:14Speaker 1: left tackle. And he still is overall, but it's not
- 40:19Speaker 1: easy to just switch positions on the offensive line. Like
- 40:22Speaker 1: us as fans think going from guard to tackle, Oh,
- 40:25Speaker 1: that must be pretty set.
- 40:26Speaker 2: It's not.
- 40:27Speaker 1: And you saw that on Saturday. Um, there was more
- 40:31Speaker 1: to that question too. Is this a personnel issue or
- 40:33Speaker 1: more on the coaches? This unit was supposed to be
- 40:35Speaker 1: the strength. I think it's a little bit of both.
- 40:39Speaker 1: I mean, I, I, again, the coaching staff isn't Scott
- 40:43Speaker 1: free in all of this. I want to make sure
- 40:44Speaker 1: I'm clear on that just because I'm not going, Hey,
- 40:46Speaker 1: fire Tim back. Like, Some of you are, it doesn't
- 40:49Speaker 1: mean that there's not issues with the coaching staff. Cause I,
- 40:52Speaker 1: that is part of it. But again, that's, that's the
- 40:56Speaker 1: thing with offensive line. Like that's the one thing, like
- 40:58Speaker 1: go back to what we were just talking about a
- 40:59Speaker 1: couple of minutes ago. You know what I'm talking about?
- 41:02Speaker 1: How every year you're going to have to deal with
- 41:03Speaker 1: this new influx of people. That's where it's going to
- 41:06Speaker 1: hurt you. The most is if you can't get a
- 41:09Speaker 1: consistent offensive line, like that placed a lot of football together.
- 41:18Speaker 1: It's going to be tough sledding because these guys have
- 41:20Speaker 1: played a lot of football, just not together. And individually,
- 41:23Speaker 1: they all had really good years last year. And then
- 41:25Speaker 1: you put them all in the same room and it's
- 41:26Speaker 1: like they can't figure this out. And so maybe, you know,
- 41:31Speaker 1: back to the question about scheme. Yeah, maybe it's a
- 41:34Speaker 1: scheme issue. I hate comparing the Bulls to the Bucs
- 41:37Speaker 1: because one team is winless and the other is undefeated. But,
- 41:40Speaker 1: you know, I look at this offensive line for the
- 41:42Speaker 1: Bucs and it's like, well, they were really good in
- 41:43Speaker 1: the past. It's the same group of guys, but the
- 41:45Speaker 1: scheme has changed. And so I look at Zach Robinson
- 41:48Speaker 1: and I'm like, what has he done to kind of
- 41:50Speaker 1: ruin this offensive line? I don't have that same kind
- 41:53Speaker 1: of evaluation with USF because we've never seen this offensive
- 41:57Speaker 1: line together.
- 41:57Speaker 2: So I don't know if they were ever going to
- 41:59Speaker 2: be good together.
- 42:00Speaker 1: Like the Bucs, we had evidence these guys were good
- 42:03Speaker 1: together and it looks like they might have a scheme issue.
- 42:05Speaker 1: I haven't been able to identify that yet with USF.
- 42:08Speaker 1: If this is a scheme issue or just to me,
- 42:12Speaker 1: it's an execution issue. And I think it's okay to
- 42:17Speaker 1: put the blame on players at times. Again, like the
- 42:20Speaker 1: theme of the show, we always talk about blaming the
- 42:21Speaker 1: coaching staff. Sometimes you got to hold the players accountable.
- 42:26Speaker 1: And I think right now I'm doing a pretty good
- 42:28Speaker 1: job holding the offensive line accountable. I think they're the
- 42:32Speaker 1: biggest problem with all of this. And I think if
- 42:34Speaker 1: you get the offensive line fixed, well, the running game
- 42:37Speaker 1: will continue to be a strength.
- 42:38Speaker 2: It'll get even stronger.
- 42:39Speaker 1: And that's going to open up the pass game, which
- 42:41Speaker 1: ultimately opens up the run game. So, the online is
- 42:44Speaker 1: what changes all of this. You know, I'll go back
- 42:47Speaker 1: to my 10 wins. Hell, I'll tell you, they can
- 42:49Speaker 1: win the American. If the offensive line lives up to
- 42:51Speaker 1: the expectation, if the offensive line doesn't live up to
- 42:54Speaker 1: the expectation, you're not sniffing the American conference.
- 42:57Speaker 2: USF bowl central. Last question.
- 43:00Speaker 1: Is USF still a college football playoff caliber team?
- 43:06Speaker 2: Come on, man. I, I, I, I can't believe that's
- 43:16Speaker 2: a question.
- 43:16Speaker 1: And I know, okay, I get why you asked this question.
- 43:19Speaker 1: You want me to make you feel good? You want
- 43:20Speaker 1: me to tell you yes?
- 43:21Speaker 2: I can't. This is not a playoff caliber team. Not
- 43:25Speaker 2: even close. Who's Boise State got left on their schedule?
- 43:31Speaker 2: Could already be a wrap. The problem with that, you're
- 43:34Speaker 2: definitely going against them. Let's see.
- 43:39Speaker 1: Fresno State, Utah State. They got Washington State. Texas State,
- 43:44Speaker 1: Oregon State, Colorado State. There's a good chance they're going
- 43:48Speaker 1: to run the table. Do they have San Diego State?
- 43:52Speaker 1: They do have San Diego State, who did get them
- 43:55Speaker 1: last year. At the end of the year, that would
- 43:57Speaker 1: be their second loss, but I don't think they're going
- 43:59Speaker 1: to count that loss to Oregon. They're not really going
- 44:01Speaker 1: to penalize them for that. Honestly, I shouldn't even be
- 44:05Speaker 1: looking at others right now because it doesn't even matter.
- 44:07Speaker 1: To answer your question, no. They're not a playoff caliber team.
- 44:11Speaker 1: They're not even close. I think their defense is playoff caliber,
- 44:15Speaker 1: but this offense is nowhere near playoff caliber. But again,
- 44:20Speaker 1: the defensive line, I was so impressed with this weekend.
- 44:23Speaker 1: So defensively, yes. Now, the defense, because the offense has
- 44:29Speaker 1: been so bad, the defense would get destroyed against a
- 44:36Speaker 1: playoff team. Because I think the defense will be on
- 44:39Speaker 1: the field for so much. I don't even want to
- 44:41Speaker 1: think about that right now.
- 44:42Speaker 2: So.
- 44:43Speaker 1: I let's, let's go ahead and leave college football playoff
- 44:46Speaker 1: out of our vocabulary for right now.
- 44:48Speaker 2: I love that. It can be an expectation here.
- 44:51Speaker 1: And that's one thing that's great about the 12 team
- 44:53Speaker 1: playoff is it gives you hope not to kill all
- 44:56Speaker 1: your hope or anything, but I, I think we need
- 44:59Speaker 1: to just, we need to pump the brakes a little
- 45:00Speaker 1: bit on the CFP. We need to pump the brakes
- 45:03Speaker 1: and think of our top 25 team just because we're undefeated.
- 45:06Speaker 1: And I think you're just gonna have to be patient,
- 45:08Speaker 1: but right now, no, this team is nowhere near a
- 45:10Speaker 1: playoff caliber team. And, I would hate for this team
- 45:13Speaker 1: to just somehow stumble its way into the playoff playing
- 45:15Speaker 1: the way they are right now and have to see
- 45:17Speaker 1: them go up against any of these top 12 teams.
- 45:20Speaker 2: Cause I think it would be really ugly.
- 45:22Speaker 1: And then, you know, then you're going to have to
- 45:23Speaker 1: hear all about, Oh, USF can't hang with the big boy.
- 45:26Speaker 1: Like it would get ugly. This team, they cannot compete
- 45:29Speaker 1: at that level right now. I mean, they just struggled
- 45:31Speaker 1: to Bowling Green and Bowling Green got waxed by power
- 45:36Speaker 1: for teams that are not playoff teams. You know, that's,
- 45:42Speaker 1: That's what is so like Iowa State. They're in a
- 45:46Speaker 1: completely different roster from a year ago. They put up
- 45:50Speaker 1: 55 on Bowling Green. Nebraska put up 56 on Bowling Green.
- 45:57Speaker 1: Those are two teams that are not good. So, no,
- 46:03Speaker 1: there's a lot of work to be done. So I'm
- 46:07Speaker 1: assuming that was a question that you're hoping I could
- 46:09Speaker 1: make you feel better on. I'm sorry I couldn't. Got
- 46:13Speaker 1: to just completely be honest with you. But no, they
- 46:15Speaker 1: are so far from a playoff caliber team. I did
- 46:21Speaker 1: mark down in my notes, though, defense played A +
- 46:23Speaker 1: + in the first quarter. They really played A +
- 46:27Speaker 1: + every quarter. But with the turnover on the fourth
- 46:32Speaker 1: down and the two fumbles, and for them to only
- 46:34Speaker 1: give up six points, hell of a job. Because otherwise
- 46:39Speaker 1: they pitch a shutout, if not for the offense. So
- 46:42Speaker 1: that's where we're at. That's my thoughts on that game.
- 46:44Speaker 2: Uh, it was ugly. Wasn't great.
- 46:47Speaker 1: Uh, make sure you are subscribed to fourth and bowl
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- 46:57Speaker 1: I should have a player interview interview for you. Wednesday
- 46:59Speaker 1: have not reached out. You can let me know in
- 47:01Speaker 1: the comments. So you want me to talk to, I usually,
- 47:03Speaker 1: I usually reach out to the school today. Usually a
- 47:06Speaker 1: little bit later on tonight. Um, but yeah, let me
- 47:10Speaker 1: know in the comments. And then of course we'll preview
- 47:14Speaker 1: this game on Thursday. And then I don't know what
- 47:16Speaker 1: next week's going to look like because, uh, next week
- 47:19Speaker 1: they play on Thursday. So that could be, I don't
- 47:25Speaker 1: know how I'm going to, I don't know how that's
- 47:26Speaker 1: going to look for me. Cause I don't know if
- 47:29Speaker 1: we'll have a player next week with them playing on
- 47:31Speaker 1: a Thursday. If we do, maybe it's on Monday. I gotta,
- 47:33Speaker 1: I gotta figure that out. But, uh, but yeah, expect
- 47:36Speaker 1: another episode with a player on Wednesday. And then of course, uh, Thursday,
- 47:40Speaker 1: you'll get another episode. We'll preview the Temple game, which
- 47:44Speaker 1: is Saturday night, and hopefully the Bulls will be able
- 47:45Speaker 1: to go 5-0 and make us feel a little bit better.
- 47:48Speaker 1: It is interesting to be 4-0. Best start since, what, 2017?
- 47:52Speaker 1: And nobody's happy.
- 47:54Speaker 2: Nobody. You're not happy. The coaching staff's not happy. The
- 47:56Speaker 2: players aren't happy. I'm not happy. But that's a good thing, right?
- 48:00Speaker 2: The expectations are there for this team.
- 48:01Speaker 1: That's the sign of a program that is on the rise,
- 48:05Speaker 1: and they know they're not living up to the expectation.
- 48:08Speaker 2: You know it. I know it.
- 48:09Speaker 1: And we can only hope that they get better. They
- 48:11Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do. The potential is there.
- 48:14Speaker 1: But they are way off from being a playoff team
- 48:17Speaker 1: right now. So we should probably just focus on, how
- 48:20Speaker 1: about we just focus one game at a time? And
- 48:23Speaker 1: maybe somehow they progress. And you never know. American Conference Championship,
- 48:28Speaker 1: maybe that's, like, look, they've never done that. So let's
- 48:31Speaker 1: just start there before we start worrying about the college
- 48:33Speaker 1: football playoff.
- 48:35Speaker 2: All right?
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