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#142 - Music, Mental Health, & Ozzy Osbourne · The Chris and Mike Show

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What's other boys and girls Christian Mike and the Christian
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Mike show. We are live literally on on the
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YouTube and the there we go. Hello.
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Why is my why is I don't understand why my headphones
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aren't aren't like working right, man.
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I can hear you, but I can't hear myself and my headphones.
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I don't understand why. Hello, Chris.
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Hello, Chris. Hello, Chris.
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There I am. Do you have the volume on your
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headphones turned up? I did just now.
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There you have it. That's always my mistake too.
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I know you know these damn musicians doing media shit.
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What are you going to do? What are you going to do?
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So that was my. Else, but I can't hear myself.
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That was Mike Michaels on guitar, lasers on them.
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So I used to do it on the stage too.
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Ladies and gentle Mike Michaels. I'd go Mike Michaels on guitar
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and he would. And then and then I'd be like,
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we got Mr. Scott Connor on the drums and William Richard Carr
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the 4th on the bass and me, well, I'm a nothing man.
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And then Mike would start playing Nothing Man, and there
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you go it. Was more like this.
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There it is. There it is.
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That was my favorite part to play.
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But my favorite part was your chorus.
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Man, that thing just ripped. Scott was cooking on the drums.
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That was like double time on the hi hat.
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Yeah, yeah. It was that.
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Yeah, something like that. Something like that, something
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like that, something like that. So keep playing guitar 'cause we
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can just have a show with you playing guitar.
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So I watched the oh, fuck me, I got the wrong Internet on damn
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it. That must be why you're
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chattering on me. We're going to do a switcheroo
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and see what happens in the live in the live world.
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OK, are. You back.
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Well, I'm back. Hey, it's Chris Elder here.
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We have Chris and Mike show we're live on Twitch and
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YouTube. Welcome to see if my, and
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hopefully my thing starts uploading better.
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So we were supposed to have John Carney on the show.
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He couldn't make it, which is cool.
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We're going to reschedule him before a later date, December.
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And I was talking to this dude, Sean Valentine, for quite a
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while. You've been interacting with him
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as well. So I confirmed that he was going
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to be on the show today. And you know, I don't know.
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I don't know where he is. I just don't know.
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He's not, I don't know. We're checking out Zipfis for
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you Zipfis people who's at my door?
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There's somebody at my door. I don't know.
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OK. You keep on.
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Dozer went to the dozer. Dozer went to the door.
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I got to see this at the door because Nick, go check it out.
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Be home yet? Chris may be under attack.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to monitor the situation
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from here. I'm not quite sure what
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appropriate near death experience music is.
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Maybe like that suspense. That's the wrong story.
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That's definitely not Dave from Ireland, ladies and gentlemen,
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that's oh Jesus. Chris has been Chris has
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definitely been abducted. I don't know dude.
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Nobody was there. Chris has been abducted, ladies
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and gentlemen. That is not a ghost.
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That is not Dave from Ireland. What a scary ghost.
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That is not Dave from Ireland. That's what I'm saying.
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When you were coming back, I'm like, he's been abducted.
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It's not Dave. I don't know where Dave's at.
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Dave's been gone for a while now.
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I know I got to dial him up. I found him on the on the
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streets. I remember Dave.
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I do? I wondered.
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Oh, he can't hear me. I keep fucking dropping shit
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man. I was talking to you.
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I'm like, oh, he can't hear me. I'm that smart.
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I can't hear you, man. I was giving Lord she's got
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captain. What episode do you think that
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was 45? 50 That was way early in the
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days, man. I didn't, I didn't know where
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Dave. I don't even know where Dave's
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face is. I'm sure it's behind me in my in
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my cabinet, but you know, so. Honestly, that was one of the
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best days ever on a podcast, by the way.
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Dave, Dave, we'll get Dave back on.
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So so I told you I, I told you my my buddy Larry Gonzalez.
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Hey, Larry. I don't know if he watches the
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show or not, but you should because I just name dropped you.
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He posted a thing about Ozzy's new documentary And I'm going to
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do this. You know how we keep getting
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blocked on YouTube and shit? I do I have a question.
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OK. How can these people do these?
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Remember I told you about the charismatic voice?
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That girl that does like the here's why the singer is so good
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kind of videos. She's an alpha singer.
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How does she get away with that? Because she's got to be
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monetized. She has well over 1,000,000
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subscribers. She has to be.
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So how does she get to do a 28 minute video on why?
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Dio is a great singer and I'm super appreciative that she gets
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to do that. Absolutely.
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But when we're trying to explain why we love a certain band, we
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get blocked. So if anybody out there knows
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why, let us know, right? That would be great because we
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would like to talk way more music and play way more music.
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But yes, you guys don't get to hear it because they keep
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shutting us down. South the camera something is
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Dan. It's like what a convicts or
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something more. Take I just thought of that at
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work today. I'm like, I watched these 30
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minute explanations of why Ozzy's a great singer, Dio's a
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great singer, Hetfield's a great singer, you know?
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And I'm like I said, I'm super appreciative she's making a
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living at it and doing it. I'm just not quite sure what
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we're doing wrong, right? I I hear you.
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I'm trying to find something, so I don't know.
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I know you are. No, no.
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You're good. You're good.
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Where's my search, man? There it is.
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Like Arsenio Hall, Things that make you go, ladies and
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gentlemen. Hey, hey, Joe, where are you?
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Joe? Joe.
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I don't have all the answers but I got a lot of questions.
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Got a lot of questions. That's my quote.
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My head spins round and round and round.
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Joe, come on, where the fuck is it?
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Type something you swear. I think Chris just wanted me to
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hang on to my guitar so you guys knew what was going on in my
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head when I don't have a guitar in my hand.
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So yeah, if I see if I see my absent minded sometimes it's
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because I got music going on. You don't seem I wanted people
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to see the so I so I I messaged Dave Mastain because he told me
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to message him to get him on the show.
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He he has not, he has not responded yet.
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He's busy getting ready to go on tour, so we'll forgive.
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It well, OK, so now I want to show you something though real
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quick here, because that can this can possibly answer the
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question you have about how do people get away with shit that
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we can't get away with? OK, do tell.
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Well, I'm going to show you. I'm going to share the screen.
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Look at him. This, this this is Joey from
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Syracuse. OK, Joey's coming on the show.
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I've been talking to him for quite a while.
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I'm super. I follow him.
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Yes, he's awesome. Yes, he's way awesome.
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He's I. Follow him too, I love his shit.
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So. So we have.
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We've been talking. Shit, in the nicest way
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possible, Joey. Yeah, yeah, nice way possible.
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I got to find it again. So I'm going to tell you when we
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we've been talking. Oh, it's the wrong app.
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Wrong app, wrong app. Yeah, that's awesome.
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I love his channel. Yeah.
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Come on, Joe, where are you? OK, so Joe, we were talking on
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next Friday, next Friday. I'm so it's the what got to get
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my calendar. Yeah, I don't know what that is
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either. I either know it's a work day or
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not a work day. It's the, It's the 17th at
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11:00. So which I got it, I got to
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tell, I got to tell why I'm thinking about it.
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Gambino I I triple booked this and I can't do that.
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Also, do you not have the time? Because if you, you don't have
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to cancel it if you don't want to.
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Friday's pretty wide open for me.
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I don't I just don't think we can have three people that would
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be that would be a a busy day that.
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'D be a long day, a lot a lot of editing.
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And it's it's my fault on the 31st.
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It's a lot of work doing this, ladies and gentlemen, I used to
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book our gig. So if that's why you never hear
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me get excited or lose my patience with Chris because it
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the logistics involved in doing things months out, he does a
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stellar job. So.
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Thank you, Mike. You know, I mean what I say, if
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you weren't doing a stellar job, we'd have a different
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conversation. But this has been an awesome
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experience, and being in real estate, I figured that was your
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Forte, right? You're good at organizing
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things. Jack and the people.
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So, yeah. So Joe, so Joe's going to come
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on the show on the 17th at 11 AM post Standard Time, Pacific
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Standard Time. But this is this is the cool
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thing about him. He does, he does, he takes, he
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takes his approach to all these songs.
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That's an interesting one. Chick swinging.
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But she's not doing that. No, she's literally watching the
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video just like we were. Gotcha.
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OK. So yeah, so this is yeah.
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So this is all his stuff that he does.
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And he he really does. He kind of spins it and it's a
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cool thing. So I saw him post this when he's
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talking about new chapter, new passion.
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So I'm like, dude, let's get you on the show.
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Let's talk about this stuff. Let's help promote you, you
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know. Absolutely so.
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And that's funny that we were following him apart from each
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other. We just figured it out right
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now. I love that huge channel.
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Yeah, so just all and he does, he plays all this stuff.
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So we're going to totally dive into his life, what he's, what
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he's done, who he is. Oh, I'm, I'm Paul.
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Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah.
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So that's that's Joe. That's he he he used to be yes,
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just Joe Syracuse and. If you're watching Joe, I'm
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super excited to talk to you, man.
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I've, I've been following your channel for a long time.
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I watch all your videos. I think we'd like all their
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stuff now because I'm pretty sure the Chris and Mike show
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follows him too. So check this out.
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I had no idea he's the voice of the WWE and AEW themes for the
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big show. I knew he's I knew he was.
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I knew he was a solo musician, artist and coach.
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That Yeah, right there. Oh, look right there.
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Look what it says. Followed by Chris and Mike Shoe.
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Yeah, that's pretty sure, yeah. So yeah, we're having him coming
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on the next couple weeks. We're super exciting.
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We also have, I'm going to stop sharing and I'm going to go back
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to this over here. We have this this person coming
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on as well. This is from Villo Cheetah.
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Villo Cheetah, a record label with Bruce Gambino, been talking
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to him. Super nice guy.
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He brought he brought Dave Noodle on.
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Which Dave are we sharing? I've listened to the Lord and
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the devil. About That's such a good song.
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500 times. So you're welcome, Dave.
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Your plays on Spotify have to increase.
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Drastically had to increase. So we have Gina Jones coming on.
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This is another one of of Bruce's artists.
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OK, so there she is. She's a country singer.
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Awesome. So it's going to be it's, it's
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probably going to be the end of October because again, I ended
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up I, I triple booked us on the 17th, which is just insane.
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So I just messaged him saying hey, we got to move her.
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But he'll I'm sure he'll be fine with it because he's, he's
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bringing us a whole bunch of stuff in in November too.
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Every Friday, November is going to be somebody from Villa Cheeto
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record label. So to put this into perspective
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for yourself, myself and our listening audience, which is
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expanded drastically. Expanding.
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We we started this two years ago and the only people that cared
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was me, you, Mama Kay and sunshine couple other people
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that really thought that we could do this right.
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So to everyone that supported us when no one cared other than
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you, thank you. And to everyone that's joined
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along the way, we truly appreciate it.
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It's this is so awesome. It is.
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And hey, Michael, I'm sure you're there at some point in
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time. And for everybody listening, I
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really only wanted to do this to talk to one of my best friends
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that I've ever had in my entire life.
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So everything else that comes as icing on the cake.
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Yeah, yeah. He just wanted to talk to Dave.
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I did so. So this is Dave.
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So if you I I don't remember his show dropped.
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So he was on. Oh, there he is.
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There's a couple of spots of him being on this.
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This guy's just a badass. Like if you have not checked out
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Dave Nudo please. And not only as a musician, as a
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human being. As a human being.
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If we're telling you he's a great human being, you can
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imagine what his music's like. Yeah, so definitely go, go check
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out Dave Noodle, just there's his name right there.
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Simple, easy. He's a beast.
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Super super, you hear me say it all the time.
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He's superhuman. Got a a great life resume I when
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it's talking to Bruce and talking to Dave, I'm like, dude,
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we need to get Lord and the devil needs to be playing on
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every single station Well. There's no reason it needs to be
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in movies. It needs to be in TV series,
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Netflix. The song is just everything that
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it needs to be. It the message gets across, the
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music is outstanding, the recording quality is over up to
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par. We need to share that on our
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Facebook page. I keep meaning to do that and I
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haven't done it. I think that's all.
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There's very few times in the last 10 years where a song has
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really spoke to me to the point where I can't stop listening to
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it. So great job, Dave.
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Yeah, absolutely, Dave. That's what that song did to me.
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It got stuck in my head and every time I think of it I got
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to listen to it. Yep, agreed man.
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So here is here is this is the label behind Dave Noodle.
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OK, this is Velo Cheetah. And bringing a lot of the guests
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to the Christmas. Bring it.
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Yeah, bring it. Bring in a ton of our bring in a
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ton of our guests. Oh, stop that.
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Bring a ton of our guests that are coming with.
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This is their Facebook page just so you guys can see it.
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There's all their information. OK, so obviously I'm not
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clicking stuff, but like right here.
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They got Cody Johnson live March 7th in Baltimore, MD OK, this is
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them. This is what they do the cool
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this this is you and I have both dealt with record labels and
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record companies and and and those those, you know, people.
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Bruce is genuine. He is straight up a genuine
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human who wants nothing more than the artist to get paid for
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what they're doing and be successful and bring them to the
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forefront. That's that's if I had to define
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him in any way. That's that's how he is.
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Carson Lee, he's got coming on the show.
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We just talked about him. We got him coming on I think in
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November. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
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This is the This is the calendar for the show.
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Awesome, there really is a calendar.
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There really is a calendar. I tell people in emails all the
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time. Chris has the calendar edit.
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Yeah, I thought it was electronic.
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Yeah, so November, we have a Carson Lee coming on on the
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14th, so and that's a super, super cool thing from him.
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Like I said this, this upcoming Friday, we have Jason Santiago.
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He's not a musician, but he's a cool dude.
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We have, we have Greg Fox, who's a musician.
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He's a he's, I was talking to Bruce about him today.
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So he's coming on the 17th and then we'll have just Joe
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hopefully after that. Monkey Guitars is coming on
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October 21st. Monkey.
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Wait for that one too. Right.
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Tell the world whom who Monkey Guitars builds guitars for Mike.
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So the one person in his life who is also one of my favorite
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guitar players is Peter Clip from Candlebox.
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And this guy built a guitar for him that Peter fell in love with
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and cannot stop playing. He plays at every show on the
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Candle Box reunion. Tour right on.
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And he's just so excited that he built him another one.
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I think he's got it already. I'm pretty sure it's done, but
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I'm super excited to talk to that guy too.
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So I'm happy for him. I'm happy for his success, Chris
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and I understand what it takes to start a vision and see it
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through to fruition, right? So when something like that
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happens to you, that's your ultimate goal, but you never
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really expect it to happen, right?
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No. That guy was his idol, just like
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he was my idol. I was standing there.
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Chris was right behind me at the concert.
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That's how we met. I was there in awe of this guy's
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guitar playing, his tone. Peter, if you ever happen to
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listen to this, you're more than welcome to come on here for as
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long as you want to talk, because I would love to pick
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your brain. Well, and here's and here's
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here's Monkey Guitars page. So this is super.
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Excited. To talk to him, man.
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So he's coming on the show. I was kind of hoping to show his
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his. So it's, it's, it's all the
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technical stuff. It's, you know, it's, it's, you
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know, let's see if there's anything fun, you know?
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No offense, buddy. Hey, I can nerd out on guitars.
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Yeah, I know. I this is this is totally for a
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nerd thing. It's not for me.
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Bruce just texted me back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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This is true. I got to text Bruce back.
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Oh, that's what it was. I was stopping myself 1 short.
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OK, so OK, I'm going to get rid of Monkey Guitars.
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So back-to-back to back to Velo Cheetah Music.
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Velo Cheetah. So that again, Carson Lee's
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coming on the show. Get out of there.
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So if you want to find out more about them, there's their
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website, infovelocheetahmusicentertainment.com.
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They also have a YouTube channel.
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We should review them. Let's review them, shall we?
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Yes, let's recommend. This is how you do reviews, boys
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and girls. So when we ask you to, when you
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come on our show, we ask you, hey, give us a review.
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So you go to the Facebook page and you you find the review
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button and you do this. Which is right towards the top
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of the page and the top third of the page it says write a review.
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Right. And it's very helpful to get our
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page in front of other pages that have not, you know, other
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people that have not seen us. And it doesn't cost me anything.
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No, no. I like things that are free.
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Exactly. A lover of music wants to see
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everyone succeed. Tell him that Chris and Mike
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Show sent ya. Damn straight, And those are the
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people like you said that we love, man, that just are
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musicians supporting musicians genuine.
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And he writes me, he's writing songs and music and shit.
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He, we've been talking about all the stuff he's been doing on his
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own and with his label. The guy is just super, super
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cool. I, I, I mean, I don't, I don't
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have like a man crush, but he's just, he's just a really good
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human And he's, he's fun. He's fun to talk to.
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He's he's he's got all kinds of knowledge and wisdom.
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It just just a super cool guy. Like here's his album, the road
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Rd. tours. So this is this is whoever
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whoever's bus this is, it's one of the one of the bands that
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he's this one's going was going. This was in 23 was going
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southbound across Canada and the United States and heading to
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Nashville, TN. So that's a tour bus.
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There's the inside of a tour bus for some artists that they took
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care of. And you know, that's, that's
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just this dude, man. So straight up so.
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That's nicer than the VW boss. We're trying to get Bob on.
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See Bob Oakman right there and that name right there we're
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trying to get, we're trying to get Bob on Bob Bob's Bob's a
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pretty legit dude in the industry.
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Oh yeah, Creed, Creed, Creed is bringing Creed, miss.
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There's Dave Noodles Band right there.
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There's another plug for Dave. Yeah, we love Dave.
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Yeah, it was awesome. I'm this is Bob Oakman Studio.
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I'm assuming that's Bob Oakman, so I don't know for sure because
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I've never met Bob and I've never met Bruce.
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I've just talked to him on the phone.
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What about There's Chunky's got there.
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There's Carson. Carson Lee Mother Rd.
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Music What is this chance to win Route 6 Route 66 guitar Oh by
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the way Villa cheat is going to get us some signed drumsticks
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that we can have have a Q&A or a raffle or something on the show
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live on the show that we will get we.
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Will have to think of something good for that.
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Absolutely. I so, yeah, I, I, yeah, there's
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Hank. He just, he just had a thing
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with Hank Williams Junior not too long ago.
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We talked about that, which is pretty cool.
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Hank Williams Junior is an icon, man, the legend.
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We talked, he talked, we talked about Quiet Riot, how they're
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back on the road. He's doing some stuff with them,
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which is really cool. So this guy's not, not not he's
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he's, he's somebody who has has movement in his, in his label
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and doing things. There it is.
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WASP, Black and Lawless. New shows added.
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Yeah, let me talk to Blackie Bruce.
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Yeah, I would love that. I've been a WASP fan since I was
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probably, I don't know, 10-11 years old.
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Yeah, yeah, right on. So, yeah, So this is this is
23:32
their webs, this is the Facebook page.
23:34
Let's go to their let's go to their kind of go to the YouTube
23:36
page. Yeah, we're going to go to the
23:37
YouTube page. See what they got happened on
23:39
happened a little bit on the YouTube page.
23:41
Let's stop sharing that YouTube in it.
23:48
Let's go back to the share going to the YouTube page.
23:54
So this is his YouTube page, right?
23:57
This is the videos and stuff only.
23:59
I'm sorry, I didn't subscribe to that.
24:00
My bad. We're subscribed now, Bruce,
24:02
we're going to help help you get this thing going.
24:04
So baby steps still still build their their YouTube page was
24:07
just cool, you know, but you got to you got to you got to get
24:11
everything going, man. You got to get everything going
24:12
for sure. So he's super, super good human
24:17
being, man, excited to be a part of his world and what he's
24:22
helping us get on the show is is fantastic.
24:25
Here's another fun thing. This is it's had a squirrel
24:28
moment. What I wanted what we were
24:30
talking about before the show started the day was this so
24:34
Ozzy's new documentary just dropped last night or two days
24:38
ago on Paramount. It's called no Ozzy, no escape
24:42
from now. And and I got to tell you from
24:46
from somebody who grew up and a lot of people have grown up with
24:50
Ozzy's music from one way or another.
24:52
It it it hit home on a on a lot of different levels.
24:56
It talks about how I don't want to give it away because it's a
25:00
really good documentary. You just need to watch it.
25:02
But there's going to be some things that you're going to see
25:03
it. It's going to resonate with you
25:05
as a musician as it did with me. I was talking to Bruce about
25:08
this earlier that you just don't you don't realize the impact of
25:13
a fan base and being in front of people have on you.
25:17
And it talks about them. No.
25:18
And it talks about the dynamic of he and Sharon, you know, for
25:22
41 years were non-stop on the road at one time raising 3 kids
25:28
all under to the age of three. Mind you, the only other
25:32
musicians I ever I ever know that have done that were Pat
25:34
Benatar and Neil Dorado because they raised their kids on the
25:36
road too. But Pat and Neil, I don't think
25:41
had the substance. No.
25:44
Issues you had so just the dynamic of that and then the
25:49
documentary got Jack Kelly and Amy talking all three of their
25:52
kids. Amy's always kind of shield away
25:53
from the spotlight. But but she was the oldest of
25:56
the three kids between Ozzy and Sharon.
25:59
It's I can't I cannot like just impress you upon the fact that
26:04
you you got to watch this thing. This is it's amazing.
26:08
It's amazing documentary for somebody who who 115,000,000
26:13
albums worldwide gross or $200 million in in tours, the most
26:20
successful artist, solo artist in the history of music.
26:25
So that's impressive. So watch that show.
26:27
It's on paramount. It's it's, it's, it's it's the
26:30
Aussies no escape from now. It's it's sad.
26:34
It's it's funny. I cried like I don't cry.
26:38
I don't cry for anything, man. And shit you not, at the end of
26:41
it, I was, I was fucking rolling up like a baby.
26:43
Because it's just. It's just.
26:45
You know why I feel bad? Because I cry at shit like that,
26:49
but I don't cry when you're supposed to.
26:51
Yeah, it doesn't matter the to me, the the the reason why I
26:55
got. It doesn't matter to me either,
26:56
but you know me. I'm like, I feel not only my own
27:00
feelings, I feel everybody else's feelings around me.
27:03
So true, I'm hyper aware of how other people expect me to react
27:10
in certain situations right? And it's difficult when I
27:14
disappoint them. Yeah, I can see that.
27:17
You know, because I don't do it maliciously.
27:20
I do it to protect me, right? Everything I do in my life after
27:24
recovery is to protect my Peace of Mind and my physical being,
27:28
right? Whether it be I have to rest, I
27:30
have to be alone, I have to be with people, whatever.
27:34
But yeah, yeah. The, the thing that, that I
27:38
think hit me was the fact that, that it takes 25 years once your
27:45
first album's released, you have 25 years to be, you have to wait
27:50
25 years to be deducted in the Hall of Fame.
27:52
Well, Ozzy, Ozzy did it. It took them 44 years to get him
27:55
to the Hall of Fame, which is ridiculous.
27:57
And in the, in the, in the documentary, Sharon even points
27:59
it out. She's like, she says she's told
28:01
these people at the Hall, like, why do you wait so long?
28:05
Not just for Ozzy, but for everyone.
28:07
Well, you know, in his case, I think that he got blackballed
28:12
until society caught up to the fact that everything that the
28:18
previous generation had dubbed him as was fucking utterly
28:23
ridiculous, right? I think that's really what
28:28
happened is I think he got blackballed just for the simple
28:30
fact that the stories were out there.
28:32
He, you know, bitten the head off a bat.
28:35
He worshipped the devil. Your children were.
28:38
Yeah, your children were killing themselves because they were
28:41
listening to his music. Just everything that was utterly
28:44
ridiculous. Yeah.
28:46
So it took getting our generation, I guess, to the
28:49
point where we were adults, and we knew that that was ridiculous
28:53
because if one kid killed himself because he was listening
28:57
to Ozzy and that he was a troubled child, and that's
28:59
horrible, but none of my friends ever killed themselves listening
29:03
to Ozzy. We just rocked out and smoked
29:05
some cigarettes and drank some beer and you know.
29:09
And there I saw something where this, because once he passed
29:11
away, there's all kinds of snippets and reels dropping all
29:14
over the place. And there was, there was an
29:15
interview with him about that, about the, the kid who committed
29:18
suicide and suicide solution, he explains.
29:21
You know. Yeah, he had to go testify
29:22
before Congress over that bullshit we wasted taxpayer
29:25
dollars on. This.
29:26
Yeah. Yeah.
29:26
And he's one of the greatest thing he said with that.
29:29
Where were the parents? Where were the parents?
29:31
I wrote a song. Where were the parents?
29:34
Exactly? Like, so you're going to pass
29:37
your guilt of not being there for your child, right?
29:41
I mean, I understand we don't always know what's going on in
29:43
somebody else's brain, you know? Case in point, right, But still,
29:49
where were you when your child was walking down just dark, dark
29:55
path of depression, right. And you know, and again, you
29:58
can't, you can't, I'm not going to blame the parents because
30:01
it's, it's hard enough. You're like, we've been touched
30:02
by that and it's, it's, it's suicide, suicide.
30:05
And it sucks, but don't don't blame don't blame a musician who
30:10
who did nothing to warrant you accusing him of killing
30:18
themselves because he listened to suicide solution.
30:19
The lyrics for suicide solution are just that.
30:22
It's it's kind of anti suicide. It's like if I keep thinking.
30:24
Completely anti suicide song. Let's find the lyrics, shall we?
30:28
Please. Because these things are
30:31
important. You know, I'm not just being
30:32
flippant and saying, you know, it wasn't his fault.
30:36
He wasn't out there putting backward masking messages or
30:41
what. No.
30:41
Effect. It was an effect.
30:43
Correct. That whole Satanic Panic thing
30:47
of the 80s was just. Tripper Gore Tripper Gore
30:51
Tripper fucking gore, man Tip you had to be relevant.
30:54
Tipper Gore. Tipper Gore.
30:56
Don't, don't, just don't get wrapped up with Jack Tripper.
31:00
I'm sorry. My bad.
31:02
And for those you know, Jack Tripper, John Ritter, character
31:04
on Three's Company, Come and knock on my door.
31:07
Knock on my door. We've been waiting for you.
31:10
We've been waiting. Still a hilarious show if you
31:12
watch it. Right.
31:15
Sure. OK, so here's the lyrics.
31:17
The suicide solution. Wine is fine.
31:22
Whiskey's quicker. Suicide is slow with liquor.
31:25
Take a bottle. Drown your sorrows.
31:26
Then it floods away. Tomorrow's our way.
31:28
Tomorrow's evil thoughts and evil do Wings cold.
31:32
Alone you hang in ruins. Thought that you'd escape the
31:35
Reaper. You can't escape the Master
31:36
Keeper. That's I mean it there.
31:39
It's a song. It's just a song, kids.
31:42
It's it's no different. Alcohol taking control of your
31:45
life. Right, it's it's no different
31:48
from from Freeman, right with no, it's a Freeman that I would
31:54
that I had the lyric to it. No, I don't believe in Jesus.
31:57
Nothing man, nothing man. So there's a lyric and nothing,
32:00
man, Mike and I've talked about this before where I where I,
32:02
I'm, I'm in, I'm in the. Character of This is probably
32:07
the only heated debate that ever happened within Nemesis, right?
32:10
Right. Right, because it was heated.
32:13
Yeah. So nothing man has a line in
32:15
there was I don't believe in Jesus Christ.
32:18
I don't believe in the afterlife.
32:21
I don't believe what the preacher.
32:22
Says I don't believe. Yeah, I don't believe what the
32:24
preacher says. Yeah.
32:25
I, I, I should I find it. Should I find the lyric?
32:29
Yes, please. That's why we're here, man.
32:34
We're doing things sometimes. I hate, I hate, I hate leaving
32:36
the screen. No.
32:37
No, no, no, no. That's the other day when I did
32:40
it. I had to pee so bad I was going
32:41
to pee on the floor so. Lyrics Ladies and gentlemen,
32:45
this is just one bag. Chris Dunham has wrote a couple
32:48
lyrics in his life. Just a couple couple he he
32:52
killed a couple trees, as they say.
32:55
Yep, keep tree killer. Of course, what pops up right
32:59
away? Intervention.
32:59
Divine. First thing that comes up first.
33:05
Thing Bob Rouse is down all right.
33:09
What am I looking for again? Nothing, man, Nothing.
33:14
I don't know why. Immigrants into my way.
33:20
Americans. Freeman 2. 3344.
33:58
234. There's pain and whisper.
34:05
I found pain and whisper. We're talking about that
34:09
earlier. I just take a step from one of
34:31
our concerts. That's old because we were just
34:36
for an Angel on. That yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:38
That's an old ticket for the ballroom.
34:40
So that's where Chris and I met at the Candle Box concert.
34:42
Ladies and gentlemen, if you're just listening, he held up a
34:44
ticket for Desperate Angel, which was the original Nemesis
34:48
name at the Electric Ballroom in Tempe, AZ, right down the street
34:52
from ASU. I should really optimize this
35:00
shit man. I don't like that song.
35:28
Here's my. Proof.
35:35
Proof that I was the original lead singer of Disturbed.
35:37
That is proof right there. The original lead singer of
35:40
Disturbed. So suck on that.
35:43
So that was a we must have met in 94.
35:46
We met. We met probably after that.
35:47
Yeah, Yeah. That wasn't that.
35:49
That didn't last very long. That was my my first real band.
35:52
And it just, you know. I moved to Arizona in May in 93.
35:57
Original lyrics to listen to your sin right there.
36:03
That's the song that you all hear at the end of the podcast,
36:06
ladies and gentlemen. It is at the end of almost
36:08
everyone since probably episode 50 this.
36:15
Is this is how cool this is? So I wrote this in practice and
36:25
it has the title of this song has no name and that's what it
36:29
says. And then I typed it up to
36:31
nothing, man no shit, no shit. So this song has on any.
36:36
Of that stuff I. Believe.
36:43
I believe so. I wish I yes.
36:44
April 1996. Awesome.
36:48
So nothing, man. Everybody listen to me.
36:52
I'm going to tell you how it's supposed to be.
36:53
I'm going to be a free man. I'm going to fight until the
36:55
end. I'm going to find the answer
36:56
here. I'm going to make it all quite
36:58
clear. That's Freeman.
37:00
Is it Freeman? I think nothing man became.
37:04
Free. Here it is now I see it because
37:06
here it is. This is this is this is this is
37:09
got to be my favorite riff lyric that I wrote because of the hook
37:12
of it, the melody, because it just rolls off the tongue.
37:15
I wrote this while I was doing lights at a play at MCC, the
37:19
rehearsal of the play, and I had Alice In Chains playing in the
37:23
background while I was just going to the light setting.
37:28
And this is how this came just from that being in the
37:31
auditorium. I think it was.
37:34
I think it was. What fucking hell was that?
37:36
I don't know. That's the Rooster album for
37:38
Alice In Chains, but it's like, what can I say?
37:41
I had isn't. That on dirt.
37:43
Dirt. Yes.
37:44
So what can I say? I had a bad day, sipping on a
37:46
bottle, just wasting time away. I don't know what I've been
37:49
told, and I don't know just where I'll go.
37:51
I live my life, take it day by day, serve my time.
37:53
It'll never fade away because I am perfect at the chosen one.
37:55
I find my place. I don't need the Sonia.
37:58
So take me now baby. How I am.
38:00
Leave the rest. Separation of sin.
38:02
Take me now baby. Believe me be I chose my soul in
38:05
eternity. Now I lay 6 feet to rest.
38:07
I got no regrets, got nothing left.
38:09
Just the time that was spent in vain.
38:11
Just the soul crying out of shine.
38:13
So start at the beginning of that.
38:15
OK. So that part, that part is that
38:19
part. The take me now.
38:21
Yeah, because that was the. Where'd they come in at?
38:31
I remember. Right there.
38:32
So right there, 234. So.
38:35
Check me in now, baby, how I am. Leave the rare separation of
38:41
sin. Check them now, baby.
38:45
Leave me. Please join my soul.
38:49
And it's turning chief now I live shit St. you rest.
38:55
I've got no regrets. Got nothing left.
39:00
Just a time that was spent in vain.
39:03
Just a soul. Crying out in.
39:06
Shame. And I don't believe in the after
39:10
liars, don't believe in Jesus Christ.
39:15
I don't believe in the coming man, don't believe in the
39:20
government's pain and I don't believe in yesterday's, don't
39:27
believe in social praise and I don't believe in the histories,
39:34
don't believe that societies. It's different without the drums
39:39
in the bass, man. Yeah, I realized we were going
39:41
super slow in the. Beginning super slow, but yeah,
39:43
so the lyric that's more like. Don't believe in Jesus Christ,
39:52
and I don't believe in the common man.
39:57
Don't believe in the government's plan and I don't
40:01
believe in the yesterday's. Don't believe in social praises.
40:08
I don't believe in history. Don't believe in society.
40:15
Yeah. So the so yeah, so the lyric
40:23
that that we had a debate on was was the IT was the pre course,
40:27
right? I don't believe in the afterlife
40:28
and I don't believe in Jesus Christ.
40:30
I don't believe in the common man.
40:32
I don't believe in the government's plan.
40:33
I don't believe in yesterday's and I don't believe in the
40:35
social praise. I don't believe in histories and
40:38
I don't believe in societies because I'm nothing, I'm a
40:40
nothing man. But Scott had a problem with
40:44
with I don't believe in Jesus Christ.
40:46
Yeah, because he was thinking of it as he was saying that, right?
40:51
So when I finally had a chance to talk to him one-on-one.
40:57
Right, right, right. Right.
40:57
I basically just said, look, we're artists.
41:03
He's an artist. Yeah.
41:05
He may not even believe what he wrote.
41:08
He may be writing it from a third person of somebody else
41:11
who he created in his head. Correct.
41:13
Exactly. Yep.
41:15
So this guy is at the and I explained it to him and like,
41:18
immediately you could see the understanding wash over him,
41:21
right? Yeah, yeah.
41:22
Like, this is a guy who is fucking desperate.
41:26
He's just, he's at his. What's end?
41:29
Right. He's Michael Douglas and falling
41:31
down, right? I've had it.
41:33
Basically, yeah, cuz, cuz here's the thing.
41:36
OK, so just going back to what can I say, I had this.
41:38
This is my favorite thing I've ever wrote.
41:40
As far as rolling off the tongue, it's.
41:43
I love the way that that one section I just figured out again
41:46
when that where it went high from the.
42:01
Like the same three chords forwards and backwards.
42:03
But like you said, the flow of how that worked together was
42:07
outstanding. Right, right, because really,
42:09
the intro of the song, what can I say?
42:10
I had a bad day. Sipping on a bottle, just
42:12
wasting time away. I don't know what I've been
42:15
told. I don't know just where I'll go.
42:16
I've lived my life and take it day by day.
42:18
I serve my time and it'll never fade away because I ain't the
42:22
chosen one. I'll find my place underneath
42:23
the song. Didn't Mike has a guitar solo
42:27
and then a breakdown. So take me now, baby, how I am.
42:30
Leave the rest. Separation of sin.
42:32
Take me now baby, leave me be. I chose my soul and eternity.
42:35
I love that line before that one too.
42:37
Thank you. Read that again.
42:39
So take me now, baby, how I am, leave the rest.
42:41
Separation of sin. I fucking.
42:43
Love the way. That take me now baby, leave me
42:45
be. I chose my soul and eternity now
42:48
I lay 6 feet to rest. I got no regrets man.
42:50
Nothing left just a time that was spent in vain.
42:52
Just a soul crying out in shame. Then I do the I don't believe
42:55
stuff. But then it goes into now I
42:57
won't apologize for my life and I won't apologize for damaged
43:00
lies. That part always spoke to me
43:02
too, because now this guy is having a conversation with
43:06
himself within the same idea, right?
43:09
Yes, yes. Go back to that, read that
43:12
again. That's now here real quick.
43:15
Squirrel moment. The reason that, and I don't
43:20
know, she may say yes, I remember that like it was
43:22
yesterday. Mama Kay may not even remember
43:25
why she was never concerned about the kind of music I
43:28
listened to, because the first thing I told her, and she always
43:31
knew whether I was lying to her or not.
43:32
She's my mother, right? Right, right.
43:34
I blatantly looked at her with 100% certainty and I said 99% of
43:40
the time I have no idea what they're saying and I really
43:43
don't care. I'm just listening to the guitar
43:45
and the drums and you know, that was my thing at the time.
43:48
Yeah, yeah. So when I met you and I read
43:51
those lyrics for the first time, other than maybe Led Zeppelin
43:55
and, you know, their lyrics and Pink Floyd and things like that.
43:59
Poignant bands, right? People change the world.
44:02
Yeah. You were the first person I ever
44:03
met that wasn't famous that I went.
44:05
Holy shit thank you, I get it right, lyrics can be something.
44:12
So and yeah, yeah, OK, so. OK, so now I want to apologize
44:16
for my life, and I want to apologize for damaged lies.
44:19
I live my life the only way I could.
44:21
I gave my soul as no other would.
44:23
Took my times eternally. And man, I'm grateful for my
44:26
misery. It taught me well about my
44:28
history. It taught me well about my
44:30
insanity. And then it goes back into the I
44:33
don't believe in the afterlife and I don't believe in Jesus
44:35
Christ. I don't believe in the common
44:37
man. I don't believe in the
44:38
government's plan. I don't believe in yesterday's
44:40
and I don't believe in social praise.
44:42
I don't believe in histories. I don't believe in societies
44:44
because I'm nothing. Nothing.
44:46
I'm a nothing man. That's all that I am.
44:48
And part of this I think. I had so much in common with
44:51
that person at the time. Well, and I appreciate that and
44:55
part of it, and I'm not going to divulge, I don't like telling
44:57
why I wrote what I wrote, but part of it, I think, was my
45:00
internal struggle with the, the, the faith and the, the journey I
45:04
was walking on with, with young life and all that kind of stuff.
45:07
And, you know, half of my soul was kind of, you know, driven.
45:11
I wanted to be a high school passion.
45:12
The other half of my soul I wanted, I wanted to be for like
45:14
a better term, which is I, I wanted to be like Ozzy.
45:16
I wanted to be on a stage in front of thousands of people
45:18
every night. Me too.
45:20
That's where I'm at home. That's where I'm at peace.
45:22
It's like he talks about it in the in the documentary.
45:26
When he did he did one song in England.
45:30
It was, I forget what it was for some kind of festival.
45:32
They went up and did Paranoid and he's like, I wish we did
45:35
more than one song. And I I I the one thing I hated
45:40
about open mics is you can only do 3 songs.
45:42
Right. You know, I mean, it was.
45:44
Cool, just warmed up that for three.
45:46
Right, right. It's like you got to do more
45:48
than just one song. So I, it's like halftime shows
45:51
and things like that. When you're doing, when you're
45:54
doing like the national anthem, things like that.
45:56
I can't imagine just going up and doing one song and being
45:59
done because if you've never been on stage, you don't
46:02
understand. It's, it's not, it's, it's not
46:07
a, it's a fear, but it's not a fear.
46:09
It's. OK, I'll, I'll put it into
46:11
perspective for you right now. OK, OK.
46:13
I've been, what time is it we've been on here for OK, so we've
46:19
been on here for however long, half hour, 40 minutes.
46:23
I'm, I'm just now starting to feel like I could play something
46:26
like if I had to record it in the studio, right?
46:28
So that's, I don't play as often as I used to.
46:32
I play every day, but not for the same length of time.
46:35
So like Chris is saying, even the best artist in the world,
46:40
their first thing that they're going to do for the day is never
46:43
going to be the best. That's why Whitney Houston, I
46:46
just saw you post that version of the Star Spangled Banner,
46:51
hands down is still the best in history because she had one shot
46:55
at that. And that was, I'm sure she
46:58
warmed up a little bit, but that's not the same as standing
47:00
in front of 60,000 people. No, and that was this.
47:04
That was Super Bowl 5th, 25 and that was live.
47:07
She didn't record that shit like a lot of them do now.
47:10
Stapleton didn't didn't record his, but a lot of those artists
47:13
record that live because they don't have a choice, because the
47:16
sound system and stuff that they have, it doesn't work right.
47:20
You need to have your gear behind you.
47:21
But Whitney Houston fucking sang that shit right then and there
47:25
and she nailed it. She, I mean, that is by far my
47:27
favorite rendition ever of that Montana.
47:29
I don't care who. And I've debated it with people.
47:32
Chris Stapleton. Chris Stapleton's was good.
47:35
It's not Whitney. Houston, it's not better than
47:36
hers. No, nobody can touch what
47:38
Whitney Houston did. Nobody.
47:40
That's a bar that's very high. Yeah, that's why you don't cover
47:43
Whitney Houston. Correct.
47:45
You don't see. You don't see any Whitney
47:47
Houston cover bands? No, there was a fucking at my
47:50
office yesterday. Nick was listening to one of the
47:52
one of the stations get on on Sonos and and Dixie Chicks came
47:56
on, which I didn't know who it was a Dixie Chicks who never
47:58
liked them, but they're covering Fleetwood Mac and Stevie Nicks.
48:01
I'm like, you don't do that. You don't cover Stevie Nicks,
48:04
man. No, you just know there's one
48:06
girl out there that did an outstanding job and she got
48:09
famous over it. We we talked about that there
48:11
was a chick on the cruise, I don't know name.
48:13
The Gardner or something? Something yeah, there was there
48:15
was the the cruise that Nick and I went on the second one, the
48:20
the band that played the entire cruise in the in the comedy
48:24
showcase room. She sounded like Stevie Nicks,
48:27
like legit. And they were.
48:29
Yeah, they. Were Here's what I'm going to
48:30
say, yeah. OK.
48:32
I'll agree with you that when I'm in a place where a live
48:36
bands playing, there's certain bands that if you start playing
48:40
instantly, I go, you better have your shit.
48:43
Yeah, Led Zeppelin, Fleetwood Mac, because you got to cover
48:48
all those harmonies. Def Leppard.
48:51
Def Leppard has four part harmonies.
48:53
Right. And a lot of it's with the
48:54
music. People don't realize that.
48:56
Def Leppard is all live. Ladies and gentlemen, they.
48:58
Always have been, yes. Right.
49:00
And they're still live. They're not fucking amping and
49:02
shit. I went and saw that with my own
49:05
eyes, and every time somebody made fun of Def Leppard, I was
49:07
like, you can shut the fuck up. Yeah, because I saw with my own
49:10
eyes guys playing harmony guitar parts and singing harmony vocals
49:16
at the same time. They weren't just playing the
49:18
same chords to thicken it up. No, the one guy was playing the
49:21
chord, the other guy was playing the 3rd or the 5th, and they
49:24
were singing a harmony over the top of what Joe Elliot was
49:26
singing, and they were doing it with perfection.
49:28
Yep, Yep. I.
49:30
Got. I got.
49:31
Goosebumps right now, man. I was blown away walking out of
49:33
that Def Leppard concert. I'm like kudos you guys kick
49:36
ass. They may have.
49:38
They may have looked like. They were.
49:42
Proper pop rock yeah, they may have looked like yeah, they
49:44
yeah, I mean, they have they may have they may have kind of felt
49:47
like they were just this this pop rock band, but but they they
49:51
legit fucking you know, just, you know, you have no, if you're
49:56
not a musician, you don't know what they're doing.
49:58
And normally every person doesn't realize what they're
50:00
doing and the dynamic that they're creating by doing what
50:02
they're doing and how. Hard, that is, to pull off,
50:05
especially live. Yep, Yep.
50:10
Agree. Those guys were outstanding,
50:11
man, and even Joe Elliott will admit we had super good music
50:17
with sometimes questionable lyrics.
50:19
Right, right, right. It's like I don't know what
50:21
poured some sugar on me means any more than you do.
50:24
It just sounded cool with the riff that was going on at the
50:27
time. You know it just like you said,
50:29
it flowed off the tongue and everybody admitted instantly
50:33
that that stupid line was going to catch on just like it did,
50:36
right? It became a top ten hit.
50:38
Well, and what I believe, because again, this is the
50:41
beautiful thing about music. That's why I never really kind
50:44
of have ever have ever really shared what what's behind my
50:48
songs that I wrote lyrically because I want you have your own
50:50
interpretation of it. What I took from Pour Some Sugar
50:54
on Me was basically you're making a baby and you remove the
51:01
phallic symbol and you pour some sugar all over the person that
51:06
you're engaged with. That's what I equate that to.
51:09
And if you watch the video right back in the 80s or was in the
51:14
90s, that totally that totally I ate it.
51:17
That totally had that in your window because you got all the
51:19
chicks poured some sugar on me. Joe Elliot, come on.
51:24
And you know, so 90% of Def Leppard crowd was what, female,
51:29
OK. And the 10% of men that went
51:31
with them to that concert got home and they poured some sugar
51:35
on the person they took to the show.
51:37
Just saying. And.
51:38
As a band, when you look out there and see 80% women and 20%
51:43
men, you know you've made it. Because the women buy all the
51:47
stuff. They buy the posters and the
51:49
magazines and the shirts and the hats and the pics and all the
51:53
things, man, all the things. Music truly makes the world go
51:58
out. And when you watch the
51:59
documentary, the Aussie documentary, you're going to
52:01
understand even more so how much music has the impact on
52:06
somebody's soul and, and just what it can do to just, you got
52:11
to watch it. Watch it tonight.
52:13
That's I will. That's the thing that I wish I
52:15
could give everyone is the gift to live musically in our head
52:19
for a day. I wouldn't want to live
52:22
musically in our heads for a day.
52:24
I'm just saying, just the ability to sit down and go, I'm
52:28
going to do. Yeah.
52:32
Right. To the average person looking at
52:35
that, when I see somebody who's never seen me play before, when
52:39
their eyes get as big around as half dollars, I forget sometimes
52:43
that the ability to just pick up a guitar and do doesn't apply to
52:55
everybody. No.
53:08
I haven't been bored since I was nine years old.
53:10
That else doesn't exist to me, you know.
53:17
That's the beautiful thing about Music Man.
53:20
And the other thing too about the documentary.
53:22
It's it's it's imagine spending 41 years on the road non-stop.
53:27
Go, go, go. Raising a family.
53:29
Well, just 41 years on the road, and then in that time span, you
53:35
only put out 13 studio albums. So that tells you how much of
53:39
that time was actually truly spent on the road.
53:42
And then you wake up one day and you get out of bed, you go to
53:45
the couch and that's your life for three years.
53:50
I didn't realize either what you're going to learn in the in
53:52
the thing when he fell one night, that he fell in LA and in
53:56
Beverly Hills, he actually broke his neck and they went to the
53:59
hospital. They went to the hospital and
54:02
they sent him home because all he said they could see was
54:03
bruising. So in my mind, you can expect a
54:08
heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy lawsuit to be dropped against
54:13
the doctors that eventually, I think personally watching it led
54:17
to his physical demise because he hadn't been drinking and
54:20
drugging for years and years and years.
54:22
No, So that's, that's one take away that I'm interested to see
54:25
what you think as well as anybody else that watches it,
54:27
what you think if that that one incident because the doctors did
54:34
things they didn't need to do, according to other doctors that
54:37
they ended up going to and being as old as he was, I don't think
54:41
that damage could have been undone because your brain, your
54:43
brain, your bones, as you get older, they get less and less.
54:47
They get more brittle, right, Because we're old.
54:48
Sure. So it's interesting.
54:51
It's definitely interesting. It's a really, really good
54:53
documentary. You're going to, you're going to
54:54
cry because if I cried, fucking dude, you're going to cry
54:58
probably. And yeah, yeah, the other thing
55:01
too, is you look at that. And that's the one drawback.
55:03
Watching documentaries about people like Ozzy, you kind of
55:07
you. And you don't intentionally do
55:08
it, but you you start comparing your life to, well, OK, well, he
55:12
came from shit poverty. And then, you know, the highest
55:15
selling solo artist ever, Rock. What have I done?
55:19
I just sell houses. You know what I mean?
55:23
It's that it's that weird dichotomy in your brain.
55:26
Like, well, fuck, I'm a singer, man.
55:29
Like what the hell? It ain't over.
55:31
It ain't over yet. Oh, I know, but I'm just saying
55:33
it's that it's that it's the thing.
55:35
It's the sorrow that you just you know if.
55:37
You know exactly what you did in those thirty years.
55:39
You raised a beautiful family. You brought 2 productive members
55:44
into society. One of them is the United States
55:46
Marine. I mean.
55:48
No, it's not, it's not, it's not what I've accomplished as a, as
55:51
a, as a, as a, you know, as a lifelong work.
55:54
It's just one of those things that.
55:55
I have those musical, yeah, horrible moments more times than
56:01
I want to admit, because. And you know, as a musician, you
56:06
have to be somewhat conceited, right?
56:07
So this is going to sound horribly conceited, but I know
56:11
what I'm capable of. Right.
56:12
Oh, no. Absolutely.
56:13
And nobody else is capable of what you and I are.
56:17
Correct. And nobody capable of what you
56:20
and I and William and Scott were.
56:22
Unfortunately, Scott's no longer with us.
56:24
We can't put that puzzle piece together.
56:26
But yeah, there were things that we did musically that still
56:31
speak to me today. You know those.
56:32
Yeah, I mean, right. I can hear that song, I can
56:35
picture myself playing it on stage and meaning it at the
56:38
time, right? Yeah, yeah.
56:40
Like you should always say, we didn't go up there and sing.
56:43
Not that there's anything wrong with the pour some sugar on me.
56:45
I fucking love it as much as anything I ever played.
56:47
Right? It's fun.
56:49
But that's not who we were. And when I was up there playing
56:52
those songs, I was that character of the song along with
56:57
you. Right, Right, Right.
56:59
It meant something to me. Just like it meant something to
57:01
you. Because the two worlds got
57:03
melded together. Yeah.
57:07
It was no longer just a piece of music.
57:09
It was a song. Right.
57:11
It has to be played this way because this is where the
57:13
melody's. Going to go.
57:16
Yeah, agreed. That's the beautiful thing about
57:18
music, man. Anything else you want to talk
57:25
about? Sex, drugs and rock'n'roll.
57:34
So the Giants, we can talk a little about football, right?
57:37
So, you know, Giants play tomorrow night, Thursday Night
57:42
Football or Tuesday? Yeah, that's tomorrow night,
57:44
October 9th against the Eagles. I hate primetime football.
57:47
We can talk about how the NFL is completely scripted because what
57:50
was that fucking play, that last play last night Where?
57:53
The Jaguars. Trevor Lawrence ever fell down,
57:56
got back up. Fell down.
57:59
And fell down and got back up and ran in for a touchdown and
58:02
no one was 11 people on the other side that were six feet
58:06
away were not capable of coming over and tackling.
58:09
Let's see, then you go back to the scripted comment where Tom
58:12
Brady says, do you really think the NFL is scripted?
58:15
Because do you really? I would lose that.
58:17
I would lose to Peyton Manning's little brother not once, but
58:20
twice. If they paid him enough money,
58:22
they're going to win that. You're going to win every other
58:24
one, Tom. Yeah, I don't think that was 19.
58:27
And oh man, I don't think there's enough money in the
58:30
world that there wasn't like Tom.
58:31
There wasn't sports betting at the time like there.
58:33
Is this is this is true? No, I yeah, this is true for
58:37
sure. Yeah, it's.
58:40
Yeah, That totally sounds like simple, man.
58:44
Well, it's the same court. Yeah, yeah.
58:53
I could learn to play that one pretty easy.
58:55
Yeah, I'm sure you could. I can sing that one pretty good
58:57
too. I kind of, it's Shinedown the
59:00
way Shinedown does it. I, we did it before.
59:03
We did it before Shinedown released their version and when
59:06
their version came out, I'm like, motherfucker, because he
59:08
and I kind of sound the same. We have the same kind of range
59:10
in the, the the Southern draw. But yeah, when he when that,
59:16
when that cover came on, I'm like, yeah, OK, yeah, that's how
59:19
I do it, you know, but I got to pee, man.
59:24
OK, so we can wrap it. Oh, yeah.
59:26
Go eat your burrito. We can wrap her up.
59:30
All right. Cool.
59:31
Yeah. Joe, we'll, we'll get you back.
59:33
We'll get you back on the show. Joe or John Kerry.
59:35
I'm sorry. I don't know what happened with
59:36
Sean Valentine. You know, we'll talk again, see
59:39
if we can get you back on and then.
59:41
Yeah, hopefully he's OK. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he is.
59:44
And then I said Friday, just in Santiago.
59:48
And then Tuesday we have Matthew, a buddy of mine from
59:51
Mesa Rotary Club. He's he's he's really cool and
59:55
financial advisor guy. But he also, he's raising money
59:57
for Foster 360 and doing all kinds of stuff, film,
1:00:00
philanthropic key philanthropically.
1:00:03
So remember, boys and girls, if you're feeling sad, so
1:00:05
depressed, suicidal, somebody's going to miss you.
1:00:08
Somebody Loves You. Don't leave a hole in their
1:00:10
heart. Go for a run, journal, screaming
1:00:13
a pillow, go workout, go do 100 push ups.
1:00:16
Do something that will change your mind and alter your mood
1:00:19
for the better. Tomorrow is always a better day,
1:00:22
and it's even more so when you wake up in it because you are
1:00:25
loved it, just like I love Mike Michaels here.
1:00:27
And I love you too, brother. And I love you too, Mike
1:00:29
Michaels, thank you. And to all those that have been
1:00:31
watching us in all 23 countries, we truly appreciate your
1:00:33
presence. Without you, we wouldn't be
1:00:35
here. There's a sex little Nikki.
1:00:37
So with that my my friend, we will see you guys on Friday.
1:00:42
Peace, dear brother. Later.
1:01:11
The you will go behind your eyes yourself and meet yourself.
1:01:24
Take a moment look at your tear fight your battle, and tear
1:01:32
fight your battle. The.
1:02:46
Come down here, we haven't bounced all the exam from
1:03:01
fighting. Wait for the dead.
1:03:03
Wait, it's supposed to arrive here for the wind.
1:03:07
You ain't no creature. We don't pray and smile and you
1:03:13
just your breath on the almighty day.
1:03:18
How to feel who in your life to keep on soul in every man.
1:03:26
Take the trail behind your eyes. Feel the soul evolution now.
1:03:33
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:03:47
Take your moment.