Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Jes Staley Contradicts Jamie Dimon’s Epstein Testimony (7/28/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. When it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and people
- 0:07Speaker 1: running for the exits, one of the most interesting battles
- 0:11Speaker 1: has always been at JP Morgan, where Jess Staley has
- 0:15Speaker 1: said that Jamie Diamond was aware of Jeffrey Epstein and
- 0:19Speaker 1: knew what kind of man Jeffrey Epstein was. Well, JP
- 0:22Speaker 1: Morgan and Jamie Diamond, they have a completely different narrative,
- 0:27Speaker 1: and somewhere in between is the truth. What that truth is? Well,
- 0:33Speaker 1: why don't we dive into this article from the Times
- 0:36Speaker 1: and see if we can get closer to it headlined
- 0:42Speaker 1: Jess Staley verse Jamie Diamond, Who's telling the truth about
- 0:46Speaker 1: the Epstein warnings? This article was authored by Josie and Zor.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Jess Staley, a former asset manager at JP Morgan, told
- 0:57Speaker 1: congressional hearing that he informed the bank's chief executive, Jamie Diamond,
- 1:01Speaker 1: on several occasions about criminal investigations into their client, Jeffrey Epstein.
- 1:07Speaker 1: And look, there's no doubt in my mind that that happened.
- 1:11Speaker 1: Jess Staley wasn't some low level employee, wasn't somebody that
- 1:14Speaker 1: couldn't reach out to Jamie Diamond whenever he wanted. So
- 1:18Speaker 1: why would anyone think that Jamie Diamond wouldn't have any
- 1:21Speaker 1: idea who Jeffrey Epstein was. Now, look, I'm not going
- 1:24Speaker 1: to sit here and tell you that he knew what
- 1:26Speaker 1: Epstein was doing, like intimately, but he heard rumors. I
- 1:30Speaker 1: have no doubt about that, and I have no doubt
- 1:33Speaker 1: that the people around them knew exactly what Epstein was.
- 1:37Speaker 1: I mean, look at the jokes that these clowns were
- 1:39Speaker 1: making in those email chains talking about the monster that
- 1:44Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein was. So in my opinion, both Jess Staley
- 1:47Speaker 1: and Jamie Diamon knew who and what Jeffrey Epstein was. Now,
- 1:51Speaker 1: the extent of the relationship between Jess Staley and Jeffrey
- 1:54Speaker 1: Epstein was certainly much deeper, at least as we know,
- 1:59Speaker 1: than Epstein and an any kind of relationship he might
- 2:01Speaker 1: have had with Jamie Diamond. So all we have to
- 2:03Speaker 1: go on really is Jess Staley's word. Meanwhile, with Jess Staley,
- 2:07Speaker 1: there's a mountain of evidence that proves his friendship with
- 2:11Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein over the years. Staley agreed to testify in
- 2:15Speaker 1: front of the House Oversight Committee after its chairman, James Comer,
- 2:19Speaker 1: requested his appearance, saying that he believed Staley may have
- 2:22Speaker 1: information that would help the inquiry into the US government's
- 2:25Speaker 1: handling of the Epstein case. Now, if that was really
- 2:29Speaker 1: what Comer was looking for, don't you think he'd be
- 2:31Speaker 1: going absolutely berserk over the fact that everybody's names were
- 2:35Speaker 1: redacted as far as the people who were making decisions.
- 2:39Speaker 1: If we're going to hold the government accountable for missteps,
- 2:42Speaker 1: then we have to know who was making those misteps.
- 2:44Speaker 1: It wasn't the government as an entity. Real people made
- 2:48Speaker 1: these decisions. The question is who are these people. Epstein
- 2:55Speaker 1: bank with JP Morgan from nineteen ninety eight until about
- 2:57Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. During much of that period, Staley, sixty nine,
- 3:03Speaker 1: was the senior executive responsible for the private banks relationship.
- 3:07Speaker 1: The Times understands that Staley told the committee during testimony
- 3:10Speaker 1: on Thursday that he spoke to Diamond about Epstein on
- 3:13Speaker 1: two occasions, once in two thousand and six, when Epstein
- 3:16Speaker 1: was indicted in Florida on charges of solicitation of a
- 3:20Speaker 1: minor for prostitution. Miners can't consent and they can't be prostitutes,
- 3:25Speaker 1: But okay, and another occasion in two thousand and eight,
- 3:28Speaker 1: when Epstein was serving a fifteen month sentence, he was
- 3:31Speaker 1: first reported by Politico. Now Diamond denies it. He will
- 3:35Speaker 1: take it to the grave. I had no idea what
- 3:38Speaker 1: you're talking about. I had no idea who Epstein was,
- 3:41Speaker 1: what he was doing, And anybody saying any different is
- 3:44Speaker 1: lying to you. But for me, I find the whole
- 3:48Speaker 1: group of these people to be the biggest liars on earth.
- 3:51Speaker 1: And when I say these people, I mean the financial sector.
- 3:54Speaker 1: I don't think they have a collective truthful bone in
- 3:57Speaker 1: their body. Lawsuits brought against the US biggest bank by
- 4:02Speaker 1: the US Virgin Islands, the home of Epstein's estate and
- 4:05Speaker 1: victims of the late financier. Plaintiffs so ought to determine
- 4:09Speaker 1: whether Diamond knew about Epstein's activities or decisions to keep
- 4:12Speaker 1: him as a client, and they even deposed him. He
- 4:15Speaker 1: sat for a deposition and claimed under oath that it
- 4:18Speaker 1: was all a big lie. So both of them can't
- 4:21Speaker 1: be telling the truth. Either Jes Staley's lying or Jamie
- 4:25Speaker 1: Diamond's lying, or they're both lying in some capacity. Diamond
- 4:31Speaker 1: testified under oath that he did not recall discussing Epstein
- 4:34Speaker 1: before his arrest in twenty nineteen, he said he had
- 4:37Speaker 1: no involvement in the decision to retain or eventually terminate
- 4:40Speaker 1: Epstein as a client. In a letter to representatives on
- 4:44Speaker 1: the committee this week, a spokesman for Diamond reiterated mister
- 4:48Speaker 1: Diamond testified truthfully under oath he never met Epstein, never
- 4:52Speaker 1: emailed them, and was not involved in any decision to
- 4:55Speaker 1: have him as a client. Well, the buck stops with you, right.
- 4:58Speaker 1: You're the boss, and if one of your executives, Jess Staley,
- 5:03Speaker 1: is having relations with girls who are being abused by
- 5:05Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and then emailing them about snow white and
- 5:08Speaker 1: beauty and the Beast, I would say that as the
- 5:11Speaker 1: boss of the company, you have some responsibility. Now, not
- 5:16Speaker 1: the kind of responsibility obviously of hands on, but to
- 5:19Speaker 1: just act like you have no idea, act like, oh, well,
- 5:22Speaker 1: I had no idea what my top guy was doing.
- 5:25Speaker 1: I just don't believe it. Now. Does that mean that
- 5:29Speaker 1: Jamie Diamond's lying, No, but I just don't believe it. Sorry.
- 5:33Speaker 1: Earlier this month, Senator Elizabeth Warren, a member of the
- 5:36Speaker 1: Finance Committee, wrote to Diamond asking for clarification about the
- 5:39Speaker 1: bank's relationship with Epstein and how much the chief executive knew.
- 5:44Speaker 1: The letter reference published messages between Mandelsh and Epstein in
- 5:48Speaker 1: which they discussed the possibility of Diamond calling the then
- 5:51Speaker 1: UK Chancellor Alistair Darling. Mister Diamond's phone conversation with government
- 5:55Speaker 1: officials including Alistair Darling during his time as Chancellor of
- 6:00Speaker 1: the Exchequer or routine for the CEO of a global
- 6:03Speaker 1: financial institution. JP Morgan said no letter those calls concerned
- 6:08Speaker 1: economic and policy matters relevant to global banking. The record
- 6:12Speaker 1: does not support any suggestion that those calls were improper
- 6:16Speaker 1: or related to Epstein. Okay, I guess we'll just take
- 6:21Speaker 1: your word for it. I mean, JP Morgan is a
- 6:24Speaker 1: pillar of truth. Right. They've never been in business with comebacks,
- 6:28Speaker 1: certainly nothing they've ever engaged in, right, never mind all
- 6:31Speaker 1: the fines saying otherwise. Staley appeared voluntarily before the committee
- 6:37Speaker 1: in a closed door hearing and was not under oath.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Members of the committee said they wanted to bring Staley
- 6:42Speaker 1: back through a subpoena, however, saying they did not believe
- 6:46Speaker 1: he was being truthful with him should have been there
- 6:48Speaker 1: under subpoena in the first place. Oh, let me have
- 6:51Speaker 1: a voluntary sit down with so and so, because they're
- 6:54Speaker 1: so truthful and we can just believe everything they say
- 6:57Speaker 1: at face value. Mister Staley, in our opinion, is flat
- 7:03Speaker 1: out lying, said Robert Garcia, the ranking Democratic member. He
- 7:07Speaker 1: is claiming he had no real friendship with Jeffrey Epstein.
- 7:10Speaker 1: That is ridiculous. There's documented evidence in the Epstein files
- 7:14Speaker 1: of a decade's long friendship, not just a friendship, but
- 7:17Speaker 1: references of being best friends. He's become an oncredible witness,
- 7:22Speaker 1: become he always was. Like this whole entire dog and
- 7:26Speaker 1: Pony show is exactly that, a dog and pony show.
- 7:30Speaker 1: And even Julie K. Brown's catching on now. But for me,
- 7:33Speaker 1: I can sniff this bullshit out right away. You ain't
- 7:36Speaker 1: slipping no kangaroo court by me. Staley has not been
- 7:42Speaker 1: criminally charged with facilitating sex trafficking. Staley is repeatedly denied
- 7:47Speaker 1: allegations of wrongdoing in the friendship. Oh yeah, you know,
- 7:50Speaker 1: sleeping with a girl that was being abused by Epstein
- 7:53Speaker 1: and trafficked by him. No big deal, I didn't know.
- 7:59Speaker 1: The former Barclays Bank chief executive developed a close friendship
- 8:03Speaker 1: with Epstein. According to correspondence released by the US Department
- 8:07Speaker 1: of Justice earlier this year, Staley exchanged more than twelve
- 8:10Speaker 1: hundred emails with him, visited his properties, and described him
- 8:15Speaker 1: as being like family, and he also paid him a
- 8:17Speaker 1: visit in the lock up. Sounds like a pretty good
- 8:20Speaker 1: friend to me. Documents in the files also indicate that
- 8:25Speaker 1: Epstein asked an unnamed woman to purchase a snow white costume.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Epstein sent Staley a blank email with an attached photograph
- 8:33Speaker 1: of a young woman wearing the costume. Staley messaged Epstein
- 8:37Speaker 1: on July tenth, twenty ten, that was fun say how
- 8:40Speaker 1: to snow white? After Epstein had already been convicted as
- 8:43Speaker 1: a child molester. But sure, go on, Jess Staley, tell
- 8:47Speaker 1: us some more about how great your judgment is. Stale
- 8:51Speaker 1: is reported to have told the committee on Thursday that
- 8:54Speaker 1: he was unsure who the woman was. Oh yeah, I
- 8:56Speaker 1: had no idea. I had her dress up as snow white.
- 8:59Speaker 1: I did God knows what to her, but I have
- 9:02Speaker 1: no idea who she is. In twenty nineteen, after Epstein's death,
- 9:07Speaker 1: the UK Financial Conduct Authority asked Barclays to explain Staley's
- 9:12Speaker 1: relationship with Epstein. Staley stepped down in twenty twenty one
- 9:16Speaker 1: after six years at the British Bank. He was fined
- 9:19Speaker 1: one point one million pounds and banned from Britain's financial
- 9:22Speaker 1: industry for downplaying his close relationship with Epstein. Well, it
- 9:27Speaker 1: was a lot more than that, and this all happened
- 9:30Speaker 1: the first time around. So like all the people that
- 9:33Speaker 1: are showing up now, and I appreciate it, but all
- 9:36Speaker 1: these people were outed years ago. Les Wexner forced to
- 9:41Speaker 1: step down, Leon Black forced to step down, Jess Staley
- 9:45Speaker 1: forced to step down. And this all happened back in
- 9:48Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, but then it stalled. Nothing else
- 9:53Speaker 1: came of it. But all those people had to step
- 9:58Speaker 1: down from their boards, had to take a step back
- 10:01Speaker 1: from their businesses. And that's because they knew the heat
- 10:04Speaker 1: was on and they thought stepping down would be the
- 10:06Speaker 1: end of it. Well, the file scamrolling around and guess what,
- 10:10Speaker 1: it wasn't the end of it. Patricia Wexler, a spokeswoman
- 10:14Speaker 1: for JP Morgan, told Politico of Staley's alleged discussions with
- 10:18Speaker 1: Jamie Diamond about Epstein. No such conversation ever occurred and
- 10:23Speaker 1: Staley lacks credibility. A UK tribunal found Staley to be
- 10:27Speaker 1: evasive and unreliable. Well that's true, but let's not act
- 10:31Speaker 1: like that's just a just dally problem. There's a lack
- 10:34Speaker 1: of honesty amongst all these people. Epstein's victims later sued
- 10:39Speaker 1: JP Morgan in his civil case over accusations it knowingly
- 10:42Speaker 1: profited from his illicit sex trafficking scheme. The bank, which
- 10:46Speaker 1: paid out three hundred and seventy five million across two settlements,
- 10:50Speaker 1: then sued Daily for allegedly covering up information about the
- 10:53Speaker 1: late financier that may have seen him dropped as a client. Instead,
- 10:58Speaker 1: they reached the confidential settlement. It's always a confidential settlement,
- 11:02Speaker 1: isn't it always private, always behind the scenes and out
- 11:07Speaker 1: of the view of mirror peasants like you and me.
- 11:10Speaker 1: So I wonder if Congress is going to try and
- 11:13Speaker 1: hold him accountable one way or the other. And if
- 11:15Speaker 1: he was lying about Jamie Diamond, that should be something
- 11:18Speaker 1: that's sanctionable. But if he's telling the truth, then the
- 11:21Speaker 1: question is when is Jamie Diamond coming to speak before Congress.
- 11:28Speaker 1: All the information that goes with this episode can be
- 11:30Speaker 1: found in the description box