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UK Column News - 16th June 2025 · UK Column Radio

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Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the 16th of
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June 2025, just after 1:00. Welcome to UK column News.
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I'm your host, Brian Gerrish, delighted to have Mike Robinson
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with me in the studio. And we'll also be joined by
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Diane, Rasmus and Mccuddy using video link.
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And Diane is in the North East of England.
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Well, for viewers that know UK column and how we tackle the
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news, we often come in at a different direction.
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So whilst at the moment the world is looking at war and more
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war and carnage, of course, whether it's in Ukraine or it's
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in the Middle East, Israel, Gaza and now of course with Iran,
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we're going to focus on something happening in UK.
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We think this is extremely important, it's to do with the
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grooming gangs. But before we get on to that,
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just a little bit of a summary of what we're going to cover
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over all overall, because we've got the grooming gangs and
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grooming as a whole. We're going to be having a look
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at what's been happening in Canada with Mark Carney.
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We're going to be taking a little look at Israel and UK
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Israel relationships and we're also going to be looking at the
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new head of MI 6 and a bit on censorship.
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So a packed news today. Let's get started with grooming
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gangs, and what better place to start than Rachel Reeves talking
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about the issue? All right.
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Last night Prime Minister said that there would be a national
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enquiry into the grooming gang scandal.
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It's going to focus on the race of perpetrators.
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When do you expect that to start?
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There will be the publication of the KC review this week and as
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the Prime Minister said yesterday, we want to get going
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with that as quickly as possible.
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Now, in the last year since we came to office, when we came to
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office, there were over 200 outstanding recommendations from
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the J Review, which was a national inquiry which took
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seven years. The previous government had not
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been implementing those. We've been cracking on and
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implementing those. Yeah, convictions are now at a,
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a record high and the Prime Minister asked Louise Casey to
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do a, a, a rapid review to see what else we could do, as she
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has said, to make sure that these local inquiries that are
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up and running work properly, that we have a national inquiry
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alongside that. And we are accepting all of
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Louise Casey's recommendations, including that one.
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Prime Minister says he's read Louise's report from cover to
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cover, read every word of it, and that has apparently changed
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his mind. What is in her report that we
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did not know before that justifies a change of heart?
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Well, we'll see the report this week.
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I haven't yet had a, a copy of the report.
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Well, look, we'll see the report this week.
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But the Prime Minister is saying even ahead of that, that he will
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accept all of her recommendations, including the
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need for a for a national inquiry to sit alongside those
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local inquiries that are already ready.
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But let let me just say this, Trevor, because with local
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inquiries they they don't have the statutory powers and we need
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to make sure that people are compelled to give evidence.
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And that's one of the reasons, because people are not coming
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forward to give that evidence. So a bit of stuttering and some
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butts, but relax because we've had seven years worth of
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enquiry. We're going to do more
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enquiries. Those enquiries are going to
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produce what? Not a lot probably, but we've
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got it all under hand. All in hand as a government and
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you can relax, people aren't coming forward.
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Well, they're not coming forward because they've no confidence in
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the state, they've no confidence in the police, they've no
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confidence in social services. But apparently Rachel Reeves
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doesn't really get what's happening in the country.
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Let's just change the focus from those grooming gangs to other
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abuse that's going on in Uki happened to pick this article
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from the BBC particularly offensive and this is about a 15
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year old girl child. Q strip search at her school by
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officers in Hackney after a teacher's wrongly suspected her
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of carrying cannabis. This is the actual main part of
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the report. So she was basically stripped,
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including her underwear, had to bend over and expose intimate
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parts of her body while she was menstruating, the the panel has
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heard. But apparently the police
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officers that conducted this disgraceful event didn't really
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understand that they were dealing with a child and it
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didn't matter to them that there wasn't an adult to support that
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girl when this disgraceful strip search was taking place.
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Meanwhile we've got the BBC that's suddenly become active on
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the subject of grooming gang survivors.
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So while the BBC largely silent about Jimmy Savile, certainly on
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the Holly Gregg case and hundreds of child stealing by
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the state, suddenly now we've got grooming gangs.
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The survivors are going to be interviewed by the BBC.
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We'll talk in a bit about why we're interested in this change
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of heart for the BBC. Here's the BBC also spinning a
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story which was about Operation Midland.
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So we've got Liam Britton's widow here saying that she's got
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no closure after false abuse claims were made in that case by
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Carl Beach. But when we get into the
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article, something that's really interesting because misconduct
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proceedings against the Met Police investing investigating
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Officer Steve Rodhouse, who was the lead for Operation Midland,
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have been quietly dropped. So you're led to believe that
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basically this is really bad because the police have dropped
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an investigation into their own man.
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You get a bit more when you go into the story.
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In a surprise announcement last week, the Independent Office for
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Police Conduct said it was stopping the proceedings after a
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large volume of relevant material was recently disclosed
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to it by was recently disclosed to it by the Met Police.
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Now I'm just going to say here that the BBC is failing to
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investigate and reveal to the public just what that relevant
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material was. We need to know because sources
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that have been informing the UK column assure us this is more
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detailed information of of abuse of children within that overall
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remit of Operation Midland. The BBC so far not asking to see
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that material. To understand why the
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investigation against that officer was dropped, let's have
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a listen to Dominic Cummings talking recently on the subject
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of grooming, gangs and child abuse.
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So obviously all over Whitehall there was mass cover ups of the
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whole thing for the same reason that we've already alluded to
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fear, fear of the political consequences of facing reality.
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What I saw in 2011, I mean a lot of different things normally
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Whitehall, the the store, the the cliche that it's a crock up
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model conspiracy is generally true.
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The one, the one big exception I would say is regarding child
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abuse where there are actually multiple conspiracies constantly
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and largely successful. I watched this happening
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repeatedly in the Department of Education because the issue was
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parked there by Gordon Brown and at balls.
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So I had to deal with it when I was there, I would watch the
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redacted documents and the actual unredacted documents
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about lots of these cases and you could see that the redacted
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documents are redacted entirely to hide the incompetence of the
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of the system. Now what happened on the gangs
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is that when Andrew Norfolk at the time started to try to
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report the issue, the council went to officials in the
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southern Department of Education and said we want to bring a
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judicial review to have the courts suppress the times it's
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reporting and not allow it to happen.
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Some of the officials inside the DfE who routinely organised
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cover ups on such issues were of of course very in favour of it.
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But there were another set of officials inside DfE who agreed
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with me that this was absolutely appalling and in fact we should
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do the opposite. So what we ended up doing was
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saying to Michael Gove, you should write to the council and
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say that if you bring this judicial review, we will
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actually appear in court on behalf of the Times, not on
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behalf of you. That obviously blew up the
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judicial review attempt by the council to keep it secret.
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And then Norfolk could publish his piece in the Times.
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Unfortunately, I think Norfolk died recently without even
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knowing that this ever even happened.
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But that's just one small example of of of something which
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happened many, many times on the subject of a few decades in
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Whitehall. Which is of course why the
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system is absolutely desperate not to have an enquiry.
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It's only bizarre if you believe the old ideas about how the
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system works. It's not bizarre once you
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realise that the people there are not operating on the
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incentives or with the values that you think they are.
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It's actually completely standard and completely normal
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and completely unsurprising. So Mike, we had a bit of
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discussion about this prior to the news.
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I said I think what we're watching is a diversion.
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This has been blown up to keep public attention in UK on the
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grooming gangs and divert attention away from the Middle
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East. You thought something more
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serious was happening. I think this is a deliberate
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attempt to incite feeling within the country and to effectively
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bring people out onto the streets.
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Destabilisation. Destabilisation, yes,
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absolutely. I'm not talking.
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I'm talking about the timing of it more than anything else.
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Indeed so a lot to be discussed on this.
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But is Cummings, does he really believe that it was all just
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cock up in Parliament? I don't think he's not that
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naive. Let's have a look at this very
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short clip, which we've shown many times before, and see what
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it says about the political system as a whole.
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Anyone with any sense who was in trouble would come to the
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witness and and tell them the truth and say now this, I'm in a
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jam, can you help? It might be debt, it might be
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scandal involving small boys or any kind of scandal which a
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member seemed likely to be mixed up in.
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They'd come and ask if we could help, and if we could, we did.
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And we would do everything we can because we would store up
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brownie points. If, I mean, that sounds a
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pretty, pretty nasty reason, but it's one of the reasons is if we
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can get a chap out of trouble, then he'll he'll do as we ask
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forever more. So here's the reality,
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blackmailing MPs, covering up the abuse of children so they
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would do as the politicians wanted evermore.
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This is the reality. Grooming gangs is a minor
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subset. But I totally agree Mike.
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This is about destabilising the country.
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So strife overseas, strife in UK.
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And just to just to clarify that that's we need to very strongly
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make the point that when Brian says this is a minor subset he's
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talking about in terms of the scale of the event.
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Obviously for the people involved in the grooming gangs
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issue itself, it is absolutely a major and we we're not
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attempting to downplay that in any way.
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It is. We're talking about it within
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the context of the overall abuse system, and it's been going on
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for generations. Yeah, thank you for that
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clarification. My absolutely right, Diane.
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Let's bring you in because of course, while child abuse is
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covered up here in England, South of the border, north of
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the border, we have fanethi case that UK column has been
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reporting hundreds, thousands possibly of women abused over a
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great many years. And what can you tell us about
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reactions by the Scottish Parliament?
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Well, yeah, thanks Brian, and hello Mike.
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It's it's great to be here today.
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I just wanted to basically cover the story today in particular
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because it goes along with this overall story that we're
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covering around inquiries and child abuse and cover ups.
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And it just so happens that last Thursday, this debate for what
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was in the finally on the the floor of Scottish Parliament,
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which was a very long time coming after three years of the
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petition for the Finetti Residential School abuse
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survivors fighting for justice and inclusion in the Scottish
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Abuse Inquiry redress scheme. So since 2022 we've been
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fighting this UK column has been covering this for a number of
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years. They've been denied justice
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according to the redress scheme because they don't meet the
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criteria, because they weren't abused for long enough, meaning
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that they were only abused for six weeks, six weeks at a time
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or that possibly because they were calling it a holiday camp
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or a convalescent camp or something like that.
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And none of that was true. So let's start by watching a few
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video clips here. Colin Smith was the person in
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Parliament who raised this, but for his constituents, and he
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called this justice for the Nazi survivors.
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So here's a clip from his opening remarks.
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There's another one before the committee petition, P1979, but
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once again the government dismissed it.
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This message call for an independent national whistle
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blowing. Office for Children and
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Education Services dismisses call for independent
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investigations into unresolved allegations.
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This message called the close gaps in the child abuse enquiry.
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Whistleblowers ignored, Victims ignored, Public bodies
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protected. That's the reality of child
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protection in Scotland today. Presiding Officer, the tragic
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human cost of child abuse is incalculable.
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The lost childhoods the last in trauma.
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As a society, nothing should be more important than safeguarding
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our children. But from Nathi, countless other
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failures by the state expose the brutal truth.
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We are failing victims again and again, every single day.
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And another person who did an excellent job of of covering
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what was going on was Fergus Ewing MSP, who is on the
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petitions committee and he has been part of the petitions
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committee, which they have been in unanimous agreement for over
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a year now that this needed to go further.
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So this is a quite a powerful clip from Fergus Ewing.
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This is a this is a palpable, egregious, serious injustice
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caused to the most innocent girls in the country over a
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sustained period of over 30 years for several weeks at a
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time, has still not been redressed by either the Glasgow
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Corporation or the Scottish Government.
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Now I think the Scottish Government must take the lead.
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We must accept the responsibility to do that.
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How it is done is a mere detail. If it requires legislative
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reform, that must be done. If it requires an executive
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direction to redress Scotland, that must be done.
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We cannot hide behind legalistic arguments.
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The idea that these children were put there for a holiday or
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rest, fight, care. What an insult.
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But it's also, as well as an insult, factually wrong for
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Nathie is a residential school the corporation advertised for
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teachers. What do teachers do?
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They teach in schools. So that argument is just an
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insult to the victims. It is platitudinous, pedantic,
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nitpicking, legalistic and I don't think 1 moment that the
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current Deputy First Minister would seek to invoke or stand
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behind that argument. The other argument is Mr. Smith
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has said is that they ceased, they did not cease to be under
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parental control. Are they really saying that the
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parents consented to the abuse that their children have
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suffered? What arrant nonsense.
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What an absurd, absurd argument. The indisputable fact is that
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these girls were sent there by Glasgow Corporation.
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Glasgow Corporation owned the school.
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They are part of the state. The state is responsible for the
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abuse. The abuse that.
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Now what I would like to say about what he just said was that
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was a direct result of the evidence that I collected after
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spending days and hours countless times, Mitchell
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Library in Glasgow, in the national records of Scotland and
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so on. And I want to credit him again
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because if we go back to March 2024 when I was, I was cited
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back in the Petitions Committee. Let's play that short clip from
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Mr. Ewing. Thanks, convener.
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We're indebted to Professor Dan Mccarry for submission of the
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11th of March 2024 and just reading there from she states
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the purpose of address for historical institutional child
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abuse should be to benefit survivors.
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Currently, the eligibility guidelines specifically exclude
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survivors of short term residential school abuse.
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This is unjust. So this weekend I caught up with
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some of the survivors, particular Lynn Sheeran and
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Sharon Cruden, who have been interviewed by Brian previously
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as part of our series on the interviews with some of the
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survivors. And I wanted to get their
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thoughts on what they thought around what happened because
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they were in the gallery on Thursday.
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So let let's play their their thoughts here.
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Just a minute please. I think that more Ms. BS could
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have sat and stayed and listened to the debate.
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The fact that the majority and them all stood up after First
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Minister's questions and left was actually embarrassing to
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thank them that not so long back there most of them were saying
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that they stand by us and they'll help us and we'll fight
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for justice, we're fight for redress and it.
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Was. It was.
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Shocking to see them getting up and leaving their seats and the
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few that that stay fantastic. We appreciate your support
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immensely but I just wish that more of them would have followed
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through. But they told us a few months
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back that they would help us and that in itself was quite
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downheartening. And Shane, what do you think?
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Yeah, I totally agree with the willing.
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The fact that all these women had made their way, done
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Edinburgh for this debate and just totally slapped his in the
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face by doing that. I mean we can understand that
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some of them have got other meetings to go to, to do stuff
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like that, but not everyone, not everyone.
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Just have a bit of compassion and heed it out at least.
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And. Make a contribution and a speech
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of a speech of some sort that's great in our favour.
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We need, we need everybody on board here for support.
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But just getting up and walking out was just an absolute
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embarrassment at the end of. The day.
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So I think this is an appropriate time to point out a
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couple of screenshots that I took from the recording of the
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debate. So if we can pull this slide up
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on the screen, this was First Minister's Questions, which
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happened immediately before the phonetic debate.
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Then there was a short pause. They stopped the video
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recording, and then we came back about 3 minutes later.
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And what did we see? Just very few MSPs alone by
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themselves. I think there are maybe 5 total
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and in the entire floor. That's Kate.
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Standing there by herself. And what I would like to do is
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call out the the people who did stay and contribute.
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So of course, Colin Smith, Alex Cole, Hamilton, those two were
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together at Fernethi. They went to Fernethi with the
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women a couple of years ago on a trip.
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So they they know first hand exactly what it was like.
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Of course, Fergus Ewing, who we just heard from Marie School,
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Golden and Foisal Chowdhury, Makie Chapman, Monica Lennon, so
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they all spoke in favor of the women.
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And then of course, we heard from Deputy First Minister Kate
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Forbes. And it's always been the first
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minister or the deputy first minister for the last few years
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who have been the ones denying the justice and saying, well,
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these are the reasons why we can't do it.
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So if we can just put Kate up here on the screen for just a
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minute, here's what she had to say.
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That she did commit to continuing close engagement with
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survivors engaged directly with Glasgow City Council because
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they do have direct responsibility for what happened
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to the women. Look at how we could provide
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greater levels of emotional support, see whether the
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Scottish club abuse inquiry would cover for Nethi itself.
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And she actually said in pursuit of the truth.
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So what I see in her language is lots of empty promises that
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we're going to talk, we're going to engage, we're going to
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listen, we're going to see. She talked about how they will
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be included in Phase 10 of the inquiry, which is going to be
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looking at the provision of residential care for children in
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establishments run by local authorities.
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As for nephew was and what's very disappointing as well is
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that not only were they not remaining in the chamber for the
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debate, but we also saw very little press coverage of it.
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We did see here on the 12th of June, which was the day that the
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debate happened, a statement from Alex Cole Hamilton's office
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who's been supporting the bill along with Colin Smith saying
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that we need to open this up to the survivors.
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And we saw one other article in mainstream media on the Daily
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Record which came out over the weekend, which featured Lynch
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Sheeran herself, who we just heard from.
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But that is all we have seen. So UK column has covering this
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from the beginning and we will continue to do so until the
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women get the justice that they deserve.
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Mike and Brian. Diane, just one final question,
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if we could. How many women does this affect
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for anybody that hasn't been following this story?
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Well, the school was open between 1960 and 1991.
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The women were there for six weeks at a time and some of them
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went more than once. So we could potentially
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calculate thousands and thousands of women that were
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affected. And we've had maybe stories from
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about 200 women who are been in the survivor group, but we know
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that there's many, many more. And so the campaign has involved
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getting women to speak out if they were there and maybe not
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even aware that this is going on because of the cover up, because
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of the fact that it's not being provided anywhere except by us.
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And we will continue to do so. So we need everyone to spread
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the word to get more Glaswegian women who were abused and for
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nothing to come forward. OK, Diane, thank you for that.
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Well, I'm just going to reinforce this business of
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massive cover up across governments of child abuse.
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And of course, if our government is prepared to cover up wide
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scale abuse of children, whether it's grooming gangs or it's in
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residential homes or foster homes for children, or it's
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north of the border for Nethi, If the government is prepared to
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do this, of course the government is capable of
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anything and that includes prosecuting malicious proxy wars
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overseas. But the point UK column is
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making here today is we have a vicious attack on our own
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society, our own families, not in ones and twos.
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This is happening on a huge scale and the government is
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covering up that abuse. Now we are looking at the
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country and saying this is to provoke unrest and violence in
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this country and unrest and violence in this country is
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going to be a critical issue to over and above what is happening
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overseas on distant shores. So let's reinforce this.
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This is just a few quotes from the Woods report sector expert
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review of the new multi agency safeguarding arrangements.
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This is back in May 2021. So this was the headline from
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Community care. Social work isn't social work
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isn't falling to bits. It has some deep challenges to
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which we can provide remedies and if we get into this, I've
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only taken a little bit of it, but it's the usual placitudes.
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The resources for protecting children are under much stress.
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The recruitment and retention and safeguarding profession of
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safeguarding professionals remains a challenge across the
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three statutory agencies. We just can't get the right
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people. It goes on.
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The report estimates the current shortfall in children's social
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care budgets is 824,000,000. We can't get to grips with
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protecting children unless another 824,000,000 has slapped
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on the table. But it's the money circulating
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around abused children which is funding the whole child abuse
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industry in UK. People have got to start to
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understand what's happening here because it is the government and
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its agencies, committees and those conducting reports who are
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wittingly or unknowingly contributing to the covering up
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of abuse. Let's just continue through.
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So the report went on and it said that Whitehall departments
25:46
need to demonstrate more effectively a culture of joined
25:50
up working to support local implementation of the new
25:54
arrangements to support their full potential to further
25:58
improve the safeguarding of children.
26:00
You can't further improve it because what we've got is the
26:03
abuse of children on a massive scale, producing income for a
26:08
vast number of people being covered up by the government.
26:12
This is about joined up thinking which is actually allowing
26:16
criminal activity. I'm describing it here as part
26:19
of an orchestrated, protective, protected, abusive multi agency
26:25
cabal. And if we look at this final
26:28
comment, it's talking about the leadership of the multi agency
26:33
arrangements. And of course, this is where the
26:35
problem really lies because there's no separation of powers.
26:39
We've got local authorities, we've got clinical commissioning
26:43
groups and we've got the police all working together in
26:47
partnership. So the moment we have abusers
26:51
operating in the system through the local authority, for
26:54
example, the local police are already implicated because
26:58
they're not watching from a distance to uphold law.
27:02
They are in partnership with the authorities abusing the
27:06
children. So this is the nub of the
27:08
matter. It's a national club with no
27:11
separation of powers. And Even so, this could not
27:15
operate without the facilitation of the family courts which hide
27:21
the abuse within secret courts. So if you want some further
27:27
proof here, we could jump to Australia.
27:29
This is back to 1997 when an investigation and a report came
27:36
out which was called breaking the code of silence and this was
27:40
about corruption and cover up, particularly of child abuse in
27:44
NSW, in Australia. So UK column today absolutely
27:49
pushing. Before we start worrying about
27:51
what's happening overseas, let's have a look at what is happening
27:55
in UK. And to our mind, we are being
27:58
attacked by our own government which is desperate to get social
28:02
breakdown because if that can be achieved, these new policies and
28:07
control structures are going to come into post.
28:10
Meanwhile, Mike, our illustrious leader Keir Starmer is out of
28:15
the country, having set the Dogs running over grooming gangs.
28:21
What's he up to in Canada? He's committing carnage now.
28:23
Yesterday, as Brian says, Keir Starmer met with Mark Carney in
28:27
Toronto. Well, sorry, in the West of in
28:30
the, the, the mountains in the West of of the country.
28:34
Now they began by what discussing what they described
28:37
as the grave situation in the Middle East and they said that
28:41
this with was with a view to de escalation.
28:43
I think probably not. They claimed to have had a warm
28:47
and productive conversation about Britain and Canada's
28:50
future relationship. Kearney confirmed that Canada
28:53
would ratify EU KS accession to the comprehensive progressive
28:56
agreement on for trans Pacific partnership in the autumn.
29:00
So that's this massive Pacific trade deal and they agreed to
29:04
set up what they described as a joint task force to quote
29:08
turbocharge progress on other areas of mutual benefit, UN
29:11
quote. So let's have a quick look at
29:13
what they were talking about South trade and semiconductors
29:18
is was at the top of the list. But aside from that, they
29:21
announced Quantum to develop secure transatlantic
29:25
communications based on quantum technologies.
29:27
That's because the Chinese have done this first.
29:30
So they decide they they've decided they want to get on this
29:33
bandwagon allowing us to connect our national systems and lay the
29:37
groundwork to create a truly global next generation network
29:40
with application across our financial and telecoms sectors.
29:43
Does that make you feel good, Brian?
29:45
No good. The next one on the list is
29:48
digital. And they said that this was to
29:50
mutually arrange, force nation building digital public
29:54
infrastructure. So that's fantastic too.
29:56
Next came artificial intelligence, which is they say
29:59
all about deepening and exploring new collaborations on
30:02
frontier AI systems to support our national security.
30:05
So this is actually about national security.
30:08
It's not about anything else. They mentioned an organization,
30:11
a company called Cohere, which is the Canada based Google
30:15
founded AI startup, which both Canada and the UK have memoranda
30:20
of understanding with. They then talked about bio
30:23
manufacturing, which is all about strengthening
30:26
collaboration to deliver economic growth and be better
30:29
prepared for future health emergencies.
30:31
So they're sticking with the the policy agendas as quick hard as
30:35
they can here. Critical minerals, again
30:37
attempting to sideline China. So this is all about finding
30:40
them, mining them and so on and all about infrastructure
30:44
production and processing capabilities.
30:47
And they had a whole section on enhanced defence and security,
30:50
including continued support for Ukraine, of course, intelligence
30:54
sharing, cybersecurity and border security.
30:57
This was all done in the run up to the G7 meeting which also
31:01
began yesterday in the Canadian Rockies.
31:04
This is not going to be the usual formality this time.
31:07
There'll be no joint communique. There'll be fewer round table
31:11
meetings in favour of one-on-one meetings, all at least as far as
31:16
the mainstream press is concerned, to get some consensus
31:19
for what comes next. The there are going to be extra
31:22
attendees there with leaders from Modi is coming from India,
31:26
there's going to be leaders from Brazil, Zelensky is going to be
31:29
there from Ukraine. There are going to be people
31:31
there from Australia and from Saudi Arabia.
31:34
Mark Rutte and Antonio Guterres are due to be there as well.
31:40
The mainstream media is presenting this is all this idea
31:44
of no communique and all the rest as being an effort to avoid
31:47
Trump getting in the way of things.
31:49
Oh, and we shouldn't forget Ursula von der Leyen because
31:51
she'll be there. And of course, her main priority
31:53
is consensus to maintain pressure on Russia.
31:57
And she said that last week. We put forward a proposal for
32:00
the for an 18 sanctions package. I invite all G7 leaders,
32:05
partners to join us in this endeavour.
32:08
And of course that's because that's worked so far, hasn't it?
32:11
Now the summit was supposed to be about this protecting our
32:16
communities and the world, building energy security and
32:19
accelerating the digital transition and securing the
32:22
partnerships of the future. Well, that's all been abandoned
32:26
in favour of this war, of course.
32:29
So as I say, Zelensky making a celebrity appearance.
32:33
As I mentioned, war with Trump over tariffs and also war with
32:37
Iran. Now while we mention Iran, the
32:41
Starmer regime decided to send more aircraft to the Middle East
32:45
to support Israel. Starmer has said that he sent
32:48
typhoons and air to air refuellers quotes for
32:52
contingency support across the region.
32:54
Does that sound likely to you? No.
32:56
No, I mean, there's not much more to say, is there?
32:59
Because it's it's it's much more than contingency support.
33:03
But anyway, you know, I'm going to say thanks to Patrick for
33:06
sending this over to me. We've got a short video clip of
33:08
former British diplomat Karen Ross, who made a statement on
33:12
this. Now, if you don't know who he
33:13
was, he resigned from the Foreign Office after the Iraq
33:17
War. But let's have a listen to what
33:19
he said about this deployment to the Middle East from Starmer.
33:24
Hi, I'm Khan Ross. I was head of Middle East Policy
33:26
at the UK mission to the UN. I was also head of the Israel
33:29
Palestine desk in the British Foreign Office.
33:33
Keir Starmer has just decided to send British military assets to
33:37
the Middle East, presumably to join the Israel Iran conflict on
33:42
Israel's side. Couple of things about this.
33:45
First of all, Israel's attack on Iran was illegal under
33:49
international law. It is not legal under the UN
33:53
charter to attack other countries unless you yourself
33:56
have been attacked IE self defence, and Israel was not
34:00
attacked. Secondly.
34:02
To join a conflict, IE expand the number of countries who are
34:06
part of that. Conflict is of course
34:08
escalatory. Starmer has repeatedly said he
34:11
wants to de escalate the conflict.
34:14
Actions speak louder than words. Britain is contributing to the
34:18
escalation of the Iran, Israel conflict.
34:23
Thirdly, of course, we shouldn't forget Gaza.
34:28
The UK government under Starmer is complicit in Israel's
34:32
Commission of war crimes in Gaza, and perhaps even genocide
34:37
by the deliberate starvation of the Palestinian population.
34:41
There should be a public inquiry into this complicity.
34:47
Now, the only thing that I might challenge him on there is the
34:50
idea of a public inquiry because as we're as we're making the
34:52
point today, these things have a tendency to be there in order to
34:56
cover up more than anything else.
34:57
But I don't know if you've got any thoughts on what he said.
35:00
Well, I think it's obvious. Something that I saw at the end
35:03
of last week was that one of the key spokesman for Labour friends
35:09
of Israel was actually saying that Netanyahu's position was
35:14
untenable and he should be removed.
35:16
So I think there is dissent in the Labour Party, but of course
35:19
Keir Starmer is installing himself as a dictator really
35:23
might, which is the key part of the problem.
35:26
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Now where? Where, where do we want to go
40:12
now? Well, let's reconvene with the
40:13
subject of Israel. So we have, yes, Rachel Reeves
40:19
talking about UK's involvement in this whole disastrous affair.
40:24
Let's listen to what she had to say.
40:27
Well, exactly. But as so as a point of
40:30
principle, and I understand you don't want to talk about
40:33
anything operational, we can't predict what's going to happen
40:36
in the future. But as a point of principle, we
40:39
are allies to the Israelis and there could be a situation here
40:43
where we are asked to deploy assets in their support and we
40:48
would definitely we would have to consider that, wouldn't we?
40:50
Well, what we've done in the past, as you know Trevor is help
40:55
protect Israel from income coming strikes.
40:59
So a defensive activity, so. Paul, if I I'm just simply, I'm
41:03
not going to. Rule anything out at the at this
41:05
stage, Trevor, it's fast moving situation, very volatile
41:09
situation. But we don't want to see
41:11
escalation. We want to see de escalation
41:14
because there are it's a very volatile part of the world.
41:17
And of course what happens in the Middle East as we know often
41:21
has repercussions around the world.
41:23
We've already seen in the last few days, for example, oil and
41:26
gas prices begin to go, but that has consequences for people here
41:30
in the UK. And so we do have an interest in
41:33
de escalation in the region and that is what we are urging.
41:37
But just one final thing on the issue of Iran and Israel.
41:42
The Israelis have made it pretty clear that part of what they
41:46
want is regime change in Tehran. Do we support that?
41:51
I've got no time for the Iranian regime, for the suppression of
41:57
the oppression of their own people.
41:59
And we have serious concerns, which we've expressed on a
42:02
number of occasions about the Iranian nuclear program.
42:05
But we want to see de escalation.
42:07
At the moment we are not trying to ramp up the rhetoric.
42:11
We are very concerned about the developments in the Middle East
42:15
because of the implications here at home, but also the
42:18
implications for the Middle East.
42:22
Just an incredible interview overall because of the things
42:27
that she didn't say, the weasel wording.
42:30
So we've been providing intelligence material to Israel,
42:34
which has clearly allowed Israel to conduct his aggressive
42:38
attacks on Iran. She's trying to sell that as
42:42
defensive. We're apparently putting jet
42:44
aircraft out in the Middle East in order to, quote, protect our
42:49
people. I'm not sure how that works.
42:51
So, Mike, it's truly obscene what the British politicians are
42:55
doing at the moment, because they're helping to ferment these
42:58
wars overseas and then holding up their hands.
43:01
It was nothing to do do with us. But she did admit what the UK
43:06
government is really after and that is regime change in Iran.
43:10
We don't like the government of Iran, therefore they need to be
43:15
removed. But of course many countries in
43:17
the world say we don't like the government of UK.
43:20
We'd rather they were removed. But we can't have that stance
43:24
because of course it's only the British government and the
43:28
Western governments which are right.
43:30
The hypocrisy Mike is breathtaking.
43:33
Absolutely off the charts. Off the chart, and I'd like just
43:36
to remind us, our audience, the UK column for a very long time,
43:41
this goes back to 2011, was warning about David Cameron's
43:46
personal stance on Israel. He he was to be quoted saying
43:50
that basically his allegiance to Israel was unshakable.
43:55
And we pointed out that meant automatically that UK came
43:59
second. And I believe that that is
44:02
actually absolutely the case. But of course, he didn't just
44:05
talk the language. He went and walked the walk.
44:08
Let's have a listen to that. We'll have a look at this little
44:10
clip from Middle East, Middle East Eye that was talking about
44:15
what what Cameron's been up to. But while the US and Israel have
44:22
long rejected the International Courts Authority and are not
44:25
signatories of the Rome Statute, the the UK is and is bound by
44:29
the court's decision to arrest the Israeli leaders.
44:32
Yet according to former staff working at the ICC prosecutor's
44:35
office, David Cameron warned Kareem Khan that the UK would
44:39
would withdraw from the ICC and defund the court if it was
44:43
forced to make that decision. In a heated phone call, Cameron
44:47
reportedly told Khan that going ahead with the arrest warrants
44:50
would be like dropping a hydrogen bomb and that it would
44:53
make the ICC look like it was losing the plot.
44:56
Khan responded to Cameron's threats of withdrawing from the
44:58
Rome Statute, saying that if it were to occur that it would have
45:03
that it would have to accept that the rules based system
45:05
would be dead. Cameron replied saying that Khan
45:08
was making a huge mistake and that the world was not ready for
45:12
this. A month later, Kareem Khan went
45:14
ahead with the charges, indicating that then no unknown
45:19
figures had attempted to intimidate him and his team.
45:25
And we just add to that, of course, the US has actually
45:27
taken out sanctions against him and other members of the
45:30
International Court in order to bully and threaten them into
45:34
silence. So who's who is our government
45:37
working for? Is it the population of UK or is
45:41
it an overseas power that at the moment is demonstrating it can
45:46
be particularly aggressive? Should we be looking to our
45:49
intelligence services to help calm down the situation?
45:53
Oh. Absolutely, absolutely.
45:54
Let's just look at where we are with that.
45:56
So Keir Starmer announced yesterday that Blaise Metrovelli
46:02
CMG is going to be the first ever female chief of the
46:06
Security Intelligence Service. She becomes the 18th chief of
46:10
the organization's in the organization's history and of
46:14
course no one as C So she has operational responsibility or
46:18
she will have very shortly for MI 6 and is the only publicly
46:23
named member of that organization.
46:26
She will supposedly be accountable to the foreign
46:29
secretary. She's currently director General
46:31
of Q Branch, responsible for technology and innovation in MI
46:36
6 and has previously held a director level role in MI 5.
46:40
And she succeeds the Bilderberg attendee, Sir Richard Moore, who
46:44
leaves the service, uh, towards the autumn.
46:47
Umm, So what do we know about her?
46:48
Uh, let's, uh, see, she's a 47 year old.
46:52
She's a career intelligence officer who joined the Secret
46:54
Intelligence Service in 1999. She served as second secretary
46:59
brackets political in Basra in 2004, which puts her right in
47:03
the heart of the Blair regime and of course linked therefore
47:07
to the Iraq war. And then last January, she was
47:12
an attendee at this organization, at this event at
47:15
the Deshi Foundation on Transforming Democracy, all
47:19
about how so-called democratic states can best use AI and
47:23
thrive. She's listed in the conference
47:25
summary as Director General, Tech and Innovation at the
47:29
Foreign Commonwealth and Development Office.
47:31
Interestingly enough, because of course they don't want to, they
47:33
didn't want to identify her as MI 6 at that time.
47:37
Now you can watch last Friday's news programme for a report by
47:39
Mark Anderson on the Ditchley Foundation.
47:42
So she was made a Companion of the Order in Saint of Saint
47:46
Michael and Saint George last year.
47:48
So let's just have a quick look at what she said when she was
47:51
given this job. Here she is.
47:54
I'm proud and honoured to be asked to lead my service.
47:56
MI 6 plays a vital role with MI5 and GCSQ and keeping the British
48:00
people safe and promoting UK interests overseas.
48:04
Which of those two do you think is the highest priority?
48:06
I would suspect my kids UK interests overseas
48:10
overwhelmingly. Yes, but this narrative about
48:13
keeping people safe keeps coming back.
48:15
Of course, as she went on to say, I look forward to to
48:17
continuing that work alongside the brave officers and agents of
48:21
MI 6 and our many international partners.
48:24
I mean, what are your thoughts on this?
48:26
Well, our international partners, I'm going to say
48:28
straight away, includes Israel right the way across the
48:32
intelligence field. We're embedded with Israel and
48:36
have been since Francis Maude, Conservative MP, announced this
48:40
to the nation. We're in partnership with
48:43
Israel. We we are an ally of Israel.
48:46
Never debated in the House as far as I know.
48:48
And she's going to work presumably to promote Israel's
48:52
interests. I may be a bit hard here, Mike,
48:55
but I think I think reality is coming to the surface.
48:58
Well, I think it's fascinating that she began her career
49:01
effectively under Rich Richard Dearlove and was subsequently
49:05
posted to Iraq immediately after the Iraq war.
49:07
So she was part of that cabal and clearly not going to be
49:12
doing anything to de escalate any events in Ukraine or the
49:17
Middle East, I would say. No, because British interests
49:21
lie in destabilizing these areas and regime change so that the
49:26
natural assets can be raped. That is the meat of it.
49:30
And Theresa May, of course, several years ago was, was
49:34
obviously talking about a sort of Operation Barbarossa 2025 in
49:42
the UK being able to get its hands on the resources in
49:45
Ukraine. So it's pretty obvious what's
49:48
going on. And I for one would say that to
49:50
me, our security secret intelligence services and
49:55
security services are not protecting the nation state in
49:58
any shape or form. She has got nice hair though.
50:02
OK, let's move on with that comment.
50:05
We better. Well, of course, alongside with
50:09
the state dictatorship comes censorship.
50:11
So Diane, you've been absolutely taking the lid off how
50:16
censorship is working across the country and also of course, how
50:20
the library and the educational system is being used to groom
50:24
particularly children and young people.
50:26
What have you got for us? Yeah, thanks, Brian.
50:30
So last week I was in Buckingham at the University of Buckingham
50:34
doing a talk that I was invited to to present by Professor
50:37
Dennis Hayes, who is the director of Academics for
50:39
Academic Freedom. And I've interviewed him
50:41
previously on UK column. This this was called In
50:45
Defensive Libraries. And I added the subtitle They're
50:48
burning books again because they actually are.
50:50
And I just wanted to thank everyone who came out to see my
50:53
talk. We had a mix of friends of the
50:55
University of Buckingham as well as members of UK Column and in
50:58
some cases some as far as 80 miles away to come see me.
51:02
So what's actually happening here is what I realized is
51:05
hypocrisy. And this came out of some of the
51:07
discussion that happened as a result of UK Column members
51:10
asking me questions after the end of my talk.
51:13
And what I'm going to talk about is, as people know that have
51:16
watched me previously talking about the sexualization of
51:18
children when it comes to the library content that's been
51:21
being provided to children as young as primary school age,
51:24
which of course includes as young as children in
51:26
kindergarten, so 5 year olds. One thing that's important to
51:29
note is that notebooks are actually censored or banned in
51:32
the UK or in America. But the librarians both in the
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UK and in America under the American Library Association, as
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well as here, the Chartered Institute of Library and
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Information professionals, which sort of booted me out of my
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profession originally, they are basically saying that we have to
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put this in front of children because it's inclusive, it's
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diverse, and so they need to see these things.
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So just as a reminder, here's a couple of examples.
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We have, for example, in My Daddy's Belly.
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This was a book that says it's the story of a transgender dad
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giving birth, obviously meant for young children.
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So how confusing is that going to be?
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Another really shocking example is here.
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There's basically a glossary in a book that's called This Book
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is Gay, and you can look at this class to read yourself and you
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can see that for, at least for me, there are words that were
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defined that I've never even heard of myself.
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And this is also been found in primary schools in the libraries
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throughout the West. If parents want to do this for
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their children, that's fine. But the issue is that the state
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is putting in front of their children without the knowledge
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of the parents because the parents aren't being told what
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they're being provided from school.
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This, as we know from work done by Hugh McCarthy, which has been
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published on UK column in recent times.
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This is actually happening according to guidance provided
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by globalist organizations such as the UN and the World Health
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Organization, which states that children are sexual beings from
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birth and therefore should be exposed to this content.
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On the other hand, university and national libraries are
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actually censoring and they call it decolonizing.
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But actually what it means is that they are destroying library
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collections and catalogs. So I have just a short clip here
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from the University of Leeds library just as an example of
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how they define decolonization in the library.
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A question that's often asked is what does it mean to decolonize
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the library? So here's a video to explain
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what that means. First, let's start with the
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definition. To decolonize something is to
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identify, challenge, and revise or replace assumptions, ideas,
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values, and practices. The reflector colonizers
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dominating influence, and especially a Eurocentric
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dominating influence. But why does decolonization
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matters to the library? Decolonizing the library
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encourages students and staff to challenge unconscious biases
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that have been formed by a fixation on Eurocentric
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perspectives, narratives, and knowledge systems.
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Put simply, So that again is the University of Leeds that is on
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YouTube if you want to see the entire video.
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So what we're seeing is that British, Western European,
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so-called Eurocentric content, it needs to be moved aside in
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British libraries to make room for the prioritization of
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content that is not British, Western European.
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To I want to be clear, there's nothing wrong with adding
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different voices from different countries and different
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perspectives from around the world.
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But what I'm hearing and what I'm seeing is that academics in
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this country are experiencing that some of their long standing
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materials, basic textbooks, research materials are being
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removed from the library by the librarians, from the catalog and
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from the collection without the knowledge or any discussion from
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the academics. And that to me is censorship.
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So when we combine that with the fact that librarians are pushing
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sexualization materials in front of primary school children and
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that they're removing materials from university age, people who
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are of consent to, in my opinion, can be anything they
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want to, I just find it that's just a staggering example of
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proxy of what the librarians and library associations are doing.
55:23
Thank you, Diane for that. Now, Brian, we're going to
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related censorship topic, but I want to bring this on screen.
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This is Kitchen counter blog from Blogger Alistair Kitchen.
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You'll find it on Sub Stack now. He was detained last week upon
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arrival at Los Angeles airport and deported back to Melbourne,
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where he lives, having been held in custody for 12 hours.
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He says that the United States border officials told him it was
55:52
because of what he has written in the past on pro Palestine
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protests by university students in the United States.
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He said he left Melbourne on Thursday bound for New York and
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stopped was stopped and interrogated by US Customs and
56:04
Border Protection officials during his stopover in Los
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Angeles. And he said it was he was
56:10
clearly targeted for politically motivated reasons.
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And he said that the the staff there spent 30 minutes
56:18
questioning about his views in Israel and Palestine, including
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his thoughts on Hamas. Now, this is very important,
56:25
very similar behaviour to that of the British counterterrorism
56:27
police at British airports. Except of course, in the cases
56:31
that we're aware of, at least people weren't deported
56:33
afterwards because they were mainly British people.
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But anyway, I've got to mention that they were waiting for me
56:40
when I got off the plane in in New York recently, not with the
56:44
same outcome. And we'll talk about that a
56:46
little bit more in extra. But anyway, getting back to to
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kitchen, he said he had cleaned up his online presence,
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expecting ad hoc digital sweeps before he went on on holiday or
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to to the trip to New York. But he was not prepared for
57:04
their sophistication. And because they basically it
57:07
didn't matter that he had cleared his digital profile in
57:10
the meantime. They had clearly historical
57:12
information. And he's he is alleging that
57:16
this sophisticated approach from them is almost certainly
57:18
facilitated by Palantir. And he has said that if you're
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deleting social media 48 hours before your flight to the United
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States, it's already too late. He said that his phone contents
57:30
were immediately downloaded on threat of deportation and but
57:33
that in retrospect he should have denied the search and
57:37
accepted immediate deportation. He said in a general he was too
57:41
compliant, too trusting and too hopeful.
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So this is is clearly something which is transatlantic in nature
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and I think it's a very negative and very totalitarian approach
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that both governments seem to be taking.
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Well, it's it's a window into what the governments really are,
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be it in the US or here in the UK, Mike.
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So at least this stuff is coming up to the surface.
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Any idea we're in a democracy is completely false now in 2025,
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and this is just another example of the sorts of pressures the
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state is going to put you under if you dare to disagree with the
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state. I think it's that simple.
58:20
Diane, let's finish then with a story from the Daily Mail.
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Yeah, so this is something that a lovely UK column member sent
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to me early this morning. This was in the Daily Mail over
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the weekend about the Bilderberg meeting happening in Sweden
58:35
right now. And it says that if you read the
58:38
article further on, it sort of talks about how they infiltrated
58:42
the 2018 Bilderberg meeting, the first time an undercover
58:46
journalist ever managed to do so, gaining insights about the
58:50
meetings in her workings. Now, I think that our own Mark
58:52
Anderson would have something to say about that, because he's
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been covering the Bilderbergs for much longer than that.
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I'm even going back to Charlie Stilton, who covered the
59:00
Bilderbergs for The Guardian starting in 2009.
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So I just thought it was a really, really kind of darkly
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funny example of one of the wives that needs to be
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interested in front of us. Yes, yeah.
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My comment on it is this is more signs of the mainstream media
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trying to adapt to, to look like a new media.
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So they are sliding across the BBC's doing this, Times Radio in
59:29
particular putting out material which has got a slightly amateur
59:33
tinge to it because they are so desperately worried about the
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exposure. So I, I think there's a lot in
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that article. Diane.
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I think that brings us to the end of today's news.
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Diane, Mike, thank you very much for joining me.
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Huge thank you to our audience, wherever you are in the world.
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And once again, a huge, huge thank you to everybody who's
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help us do what we do. We couldn't do it without you.
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