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Deep Dive: Appalachian State University · Pinky Boo Hauntings

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Speaker 1: Starting college can be a scary and an exciting thing.
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Speaker 1: It's a new time in your life. For most, it's
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Speaker 1: their first time being on their own and truly starting
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Speaker 1: to get a feel for what adulthood will look like.
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Speaker 1: And for some it's where they get to experiment and
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Speaker 1: get to find themselves. But what if that was the
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Speaker 1: least of your worries in your newly found freedom, and
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Speaker 1: especially in your new dorms. What would you do if
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Speaker 1: you found out your school was haunted? Why don't we
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Speaker 1: find out you? Ready, Hi, and welcome back to Pinky
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Speaker 1: Boo Hauntings. I'll be your witchy host shy, and I'll
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Speaker 1: be your guide to all things paranormal, weird and spooky.
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Speaker 1: And today we're going to be talking about the Appalachian
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Speaker 1: State University. Yep, we're heading to the Appalachian Mountains, one
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Speaker 1: of the most mysterious places in America, So of course
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Speaker 1: a university based in this area would have its own
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Speaker 1: strange going on and hauntings. Appalachia State University, also known
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Speaker 1: as app State, is nestled within the mountains of Boone,
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. Now hold on before you come for me.
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize this university was from North Carolina. I
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Speaker 1: found a story about the school in a book that
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Speaker 1: has ghost stories from hull over the state. I didn't
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Speaker 1: realize until I already had it in the schedule and
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Speaker 1: started doing the research for it. I do want to
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Speaker 1: take the deep dives out of North Carolina more. That's
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Speaker 1: why I did the last one on the bell Witch,
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Speaker 1: and even then the pells were from North Carolina, something
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Speaker 1: I also didn't know going into the research. I swear
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Speaker 1: I will try to get out of the state for
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Speaker 1: these deep dives. Luckily, there is one place I have
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Speaker 1: on the list that I'm pretty sure isn't connected to
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Speaker 1: the state in any way. But if you have anywhere
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Speaker 1: you'd like me to do an episode on, please send
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Speaker 1: them in to me. Maybe that could also help me
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Speaker 1: broad in my horizons since I'm clearly not doing a
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Speaker 1: good job of my own. Oh and one more little
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Speaker 1: tangent before I get back into the history and Go stories,
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Speaker 1: because I thought it was funny. Not only was I
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Speaker 1: surprised that this university is in North Carolina, because there
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Speaker 1: is a chance I had to take a tour of
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Speaker 1: hid in middle school. They made us go to what
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Speaker 1: felt like every college in our state. After all, but
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Speaker 1: I was also cackling at the fact that I ended
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Speaker 1: up picking a place my dad's side of the family
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Speaker 1: was from. Like, I was far more surprised to find
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Speaker 1: out this school even existed because of where it is.
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Speaker 1: I always just assumed Boom was just this nowhere town
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Speaker 1: and had nothing going on in it. Anyways, that's enough
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Speaker 1: of that. Let's get back to the history of the
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Speaker 1: school so we can get into the good stuff. Appalachian
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Speaker 1: State was founded as a teacher's college back in eighteen
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Speaker 1: ninety nine. My brothers Bib and D. D. Dautry with
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Speaker 1: Dede's wife, Lily Shouldel Tree. They with a group that
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Speaker 1: all were from with Toga County, wanted to start this
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Speaker 1: school to help educate the teachers of the northwestern part
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Speaker 1: of North Carolina. Their father wanted to help them with
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Speaker 1: their adventures and donated land for the school. JF. Harden
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Speaker 1: also wanted to lend a hand to the three and
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Speaker 1: donated land as well. Once they had the land, citizens
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Speaker 1: from around the town and the county all came together
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Speaker 1: to build a wooden frame building that cost only one
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. I know, back in the eighteen hundreds of
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars was a lot, but when I first saw that,
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, it took me a minute to
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Speaker 1: process it. I also couldn't find out how big the
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Speaker 1: building was when they first built it, but I did
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Speaker 1: look up how much a thousand dollars would be in
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Speaker 1: today's money. It's about twenty six thousand. And it didn't
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Speaker 1: make me feel any better because, from what I can tell,
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Speaker 1: this original school was still a fairly large building. So
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Speaker 1: the fact that they did all of this for less
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Speaker 1: than a down payment on a crappy house nowadays makes
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Speaker 1: me sad. Anyways, let's get back on track. When this
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Speaker 1: school first opened, it wasn't known as Appalachian State just yet.
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Speaker 1: It was known as with Toga Academy. It helped those
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Speaker 1: in isolated and rural areas get the education they deserved.
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Speaker 1: The school opened with fifty three students enrolled in three grades.
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Speaker 1: While the brothers were co principals of the academy, Lily
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Speaker 1: was teaching all three grades all on her own, while
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Speaker 1: also providing help with the administrative decisions. That lady was
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Speaker 1: doing way too much on her own. Don't get me wrong,
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Speaker 1: She's bad ass for being able to do all of that,
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Speaker 1: but what's the point of the brothers. At this point,
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Speaker 1: it seems like she's doing triple the work while the
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Speaker 1: co principals do hardly anything. Not that I'm surprised at all,
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Speaker 1: but thanks to her hard work, the academy quickly blows up.
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Speaker 1: We gets around to neighboring counties and many show interest
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Speaker 1: in enrolling to the school. So in nineteen oh three,
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Speaker 1: Dede had convinced himself that the state would help fund
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Speaker 1: the school if it was established as a training school
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Speaker 1: for teachers. I don't know what made him believe this,
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Speaker 1: but after drafting a bill, he went to Raleigh. I
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Speaker 1: won't get into the details of all that, but the
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Speaker 1: bill was made into law in Appalachian training School for
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Speaker 1: Teachers was officially established. It opened on October fifth, nineteen
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Speaker 1: oh three, with three hundred and twenty five students, which
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Speaker 1: is crazy to me because that rural school from nineteen
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Speaker 1: oh three had more students than my graduating class in
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Speaker 1: high school. And no, I didn't grow up in the
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Speaker 1: mountains or anything like that. From here, the school keeps
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Speaker 1: growing and weirdly changing names a few times. In nineteen
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Speaker 1: twenty five, it becomes the Appalachian State Normal School, because
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Speaker 1: we need to make sure people know it's a normal school.
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Speaker 1: And in nineteen twenty nine it changes its name to
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Speaker 1: Appalachian State Teachers College, probably because the other name sounded stupid.
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Speaker 1: And finally, in nineteen sixty seven, it became what it's
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Speaker 1: known to this day, Appalachian State University. It took them
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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty four years to settle on a
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Speaker 1: name for this school, but they did it. A name
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Speaker 1: change is in all that's happened in those one hundred
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Speaker 1: and thirty four years. The school grew larger and larger
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Speaker 1: with each new name. What was once a simple two
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Speaker 1: story school with only fifty three students became a thirteen
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Speaker 1: acre college town with over twenty one thousand students. And
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Speaker 1: while I'm sure those that attend the school today picked
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Speaker 1: a school for many reasons, like maybe they found the
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Speaker 1: program that they liked, or maybe they even fell in
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Speaker 1: love with the beautiful campus talked within the mountains. Whatever
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Speaker 1: their reason for choosing the school, I'm sure it had
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Speaker 1: nothing to do with the ghosts that lived there. Well,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure there is someone that would pick a school
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Speaker 1: because it was haunted. It's probably one of you listening
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Speaker 1: right now, don't lie. If you found out one of
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Speaker 1: the schools you were looking at was haunted, you'd probably
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Speaker 1: choose it. But for a lot of people, that's the
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Speaker 1: last thing on their mind. So imagine their surprise when
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Speaker 1: they move into the dorms just to come face to
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Speaker 1: face with one of the many ghosts that live in
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Speaker 1: the school. Speaking of the dorm let's talk about the
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Speaker 1: freshman dorms. The East Residence Hall is a historic dormitory
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Speaker 1: that was built in nineteen fifty two. This red brick
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Speaker 1: building was built against a steep hill, leaving this U
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Speaker 1: shaped construction with three floors and two wings and five
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Speaker 1: floors in the oldest wings and in these halls some
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Speaker 1: of the oldest ghost stories are told. Hauntings seem to
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Speaker 1: have started around nineteen sixty, so only eight years after
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Speaker 1: this dorm was first built, people were already talking about
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Speaker 1: the ghosts that were living amongst them. People report things
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Speaker 1: like whispering voices, sounds of someone walking through the halls,
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Speaker 1: in balls of lights hovering near the ceilings. In some rooms.
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Speaker 1: It is said that a student committed an early exit
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Speaker 1: on the ground floor. On September twenty ninth, nineteen seventy seven,
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Speaker 1: a freshman named Lancey Dean Evereight was found dead in
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Speaker 1: his dorm within the East Hall. He was from Greensboro
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Speaker 1: and from the get go he seemed very motivated, running
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Speaker 1: and winning his election for a senator in a student
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Speaker 1: government association. Though he wasn't much for words, he did
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Speaker 1: seem to be respected by his peers, so it must
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Speaker 1: have come to a huge shop when his roommate found
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Speaker 1: his body lifeless and with a gunshot wound to the temple.
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Speaker 1: No one seemed to know why he would take his
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Speaker 1: own life, and sadly, there was no good book end
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Speaker 1: to this story, just a freshman that seemed to have
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Speaker 1: everything going for him dealing with something he didn't seem
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Speaker 1: to speak to anyone about. Whatever it was, he felt
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Speaker 1: he had no other choice but to leave this earth
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Speaker 1: only a month after starting his college career. Years after
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Speaker 1: this tragedy, people began to talk about the paranormal activity
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Speaker 1: and eventually they had a dorm of doom Halloween attraction
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Speaker 1: as well, which I don't know that makes me feel
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Speaker 1: the type of way people have tried to justify this
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Speaker 1: attraction by saying it's not about Dean in what he did,
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Speaker 1: But about the legacy of the paranormal activity within East Hall,
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Speaker 1: which I don't know, still feels a little weird since
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Speaker 1: it only started eight years after Dean's death. Oh and
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Speaker 1: like I said, this dorm is mostly known as the
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Speaker 1: freshman dorms, with most of them living on the ground floor,
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Speaker 1: the people that are fresh out of high school and
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Speaker 1: probably their first time ever living on their own. This
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Speaker 1: is the last thing you want to deal with in
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Speaker 1: those kinds of conditions. It also means that a lot
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Speaker 1: of these people moving into these dorms have yet to
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Speaker 1: learn about the stories that surround the hall, so it
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Speaker 1: kind of helps you believe these people when they say
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Speaker 1: they have experienced something. One freshman had an experience along
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Speaker 1: with his girlfriend one night while they were sleeping in
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Speaker 1: his dorm. They both said at different times at night,
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Speaker 1: they saw something strange. When he woke up, he said
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Speaker 1: he saw a figure just standing next to his roommate's bed,
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Speaker 1: thinking it was just a weird dream, and he went
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Speaker 1: back to sleep. It wasn't until the next day, when
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Speaker 1: his girlfriend woke up that he started to realize what
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Speaker 1: he saw wasn't just a dream. She told him about
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Speaker 1: the crazy dreams she had last night, and how there
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Speaker 1: was a black figure just standing in the corner beside
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Speaker 1: his roommate's bed. It was around that time that he
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Speaker 1: told her about his dream. It's not said, but I
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Speaker 1: do wonder if after they talked about their share of dream,
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Speaker 1: if he was a little freaked out staying in that room.
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Speaker 1: I also wonder if he told his roommate about his
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Speaker 1: and his girlfriend's experience, because I don't know if I
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Speaker 1: would tell them or not, Like, how do you bring
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Speaker 1: that up? But this person is the only one that
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Speaker 1: has told about their experience from this hall. Another resident
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Speaker 1: claimed to have been pushed over by an unseen force
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Speaker 1: when they were heading towards the bathroom. They even said
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Speaker 1: they heard a voice of Mummer something like my dorm, which, damn,
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Speaker 1: what did that person do to you? They were just
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Speaker 1: trying to go to the bathroom, Like did they happen
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Speaker 1: to be living in your old dorm or something. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I could see it with the spirit mumbling my dorm.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think a lot of people get to
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Speaker 1: choose their dorms freshman year, so it's not their fault
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Speaker 1: they're in the spirit's dorm. I would say This could
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Speaker 1: be Dean, but I would think there would be some
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Speaker 1: idea of where his dorm was, and I think they'd
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Speaker 1: mentioned something if they were in or around that dorm.
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Speaker 1: There is another famous ghost within these halls. She is
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Speaker 1: a female spirit that most people call Ginny. I couldn't
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Speaker 1: pinpoint who the spirit was because there seems to be
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Speaker 1: some mixed stories on who she is, but the one
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Speaker 1: that most believe is her true origins is the story
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Speaker 1: of an employee that was taken, assaulted, and then murdered
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Speaker 1: on September twenty fourth, nineteen eighty nine. It is said
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Speaker 1: that she now walks the halls in this building, and
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Speaker 1: there have been those that have seen her as well.
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Speaker 1: I do think it's funny how this building is well
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Speaker 1: known for being haunted and yet finding any details on
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Speaker 1: an actual haunting seems to be hard. It seems like
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Speaker 1: it's just your usual rumors of whispers and maybe an apparition,
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Speaker 1: maybe footsteps. Just weird things seem to be happening in
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Speaker 1: this building, and everyone agrees that it's haunted. They just
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Speaker 1: don't want to tell their story in detail, I guess.
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Speaker 1: But this isn't the only hall that is haunted. In fact,
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Speaker 1: the ig Greer Hall also has a ghost of its own.
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Speaker 1: This wing was built in nineteen sixty seven during an
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Speaker 1: expansion onto Wilburn Cafeteria, at least I think so. The
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Speaker 1: wording on the university site is kind of weird because
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Speaker 1: it also says this hall was built in the nineteen
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Speaker 1: fifties and in nineteen sixty seven as well. But I'm
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Speaker 1: going to assume that was a mistake because most things
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Speaker 1: seem to say it's built in nineteen sixty seven. It
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Speaker 1: only showed up once saying that it was built in
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Speaker 1: the fifties. So if I'm wrong and it's just built
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Speaker 1: next to the cafeteria, don't come for me. Tell the
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Speaker 1: university to do a better job at proof reading their site,
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Speaker 1: because I couldn't find too much on it, and I
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Speaker 1: was thinking I could trust that side of all things,
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Speaker 1: but maybe I shouldn't have anyways. While the building houses
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Speaker 1: things like student services offices for the Schools of Arts
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Speaker 1: and Science, international programs, as well as the Department of
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Speaker 1: Philosophy and Religion, the hall is most known for a
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Speaker 1: small auditorium. The reason it's known for this auditorium is
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Speaker 1: because it was once used as a film screening location now,
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Speaker 1: though it's probably more known for its haunting. It is
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Speaker 1: said that a projectionist died while working decades ago. Now
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Speaker 1: people report sounds of a film real spinning with no
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Speaker 1: one in the booth, as well as lights flickering on
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Speaker 1: and off at random. Doors are also said to lock
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Speaker 1: and unlock themselves, and while most could easily ignore these
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Speaker 1: things as just strange happenings, but some have reported is
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Speaker 1: a little harder to explain. See some have seen an
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Speaker 1: apparition of a man in a hat. They say he
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Speaker 1: appears in the projection booth. He doesn't seem to be
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Speaker 1: bothering anyone, so I'd assume he's just there doing the
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Speaker 1: job he loved, at least I hope so, because it
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Speaker 1: would suck if he was coming back to a job
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Speaker 1: he hated, or if he didn't know he was dead.
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Speaker 1: So why don't we just assume he did enjoy his job,
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Speaker 1: because it's less sad that way. If nothing else, you
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Speaker 1: definitely can say he's a good worker, right. I definitely
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Speaker 1: wasn't expecting there to be more workers hanging around than students.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's just me, but it being a college, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, wouldn't you expect there to be more stories
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Speaker 1: of students haunting the place instead of workers. Please tell
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Speaker 1: me I'm not the only one. I'm starting to feel
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Speaker 1: bad for thinking it. Now. Why don't we move on
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Speaker 1: to our next location and the last one on campus.
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Speaker 1: We're going from ground level to hunder the campus to
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Speaker 1: the tunnels. Yep, that's right. The buildings aren't the only
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Speaker 1: thing with ghosts living within them. You could even be
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Speaker 1: walking over a spirit as you're heading to class. So
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Speaker 1: if you do go to that school, just think about
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Speaker 1: that next time. Maybe or not, it might creep you out.
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Speaker 1: But the tunnels were originally used for utilities and maintenance
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Speaker 1: and are for the most part off limits to most
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Speaker 1: especially students. They are not allowed in there at all.
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Speaker 1: I know. It's such a shocking rate, So of course,
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Speaker 1: between that and the rumors surrounding it, people are going
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Speaker 1: to want to check it out if for nothing else,
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Speaker 1: didn't have fun and give themselves a scare. People tell
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Speaker 1: stories of a student that went down into the tunnels
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Speaker 1: never to return. While it is hard to tell if
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Speaker 1: this is factor myth, people still pass this telle down
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Speaker 1: to each new class. They also love to spread the
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Speaker 1: legend of the secret rituals that take place within the tunnels.
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Speaker 1: What are the rituals? Who knows. I'm sure it's exactly
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Speaker 1: what you're picturing. Black robes, probably a symbol on the ground,
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Speaker 1: maybe some fire somewhere, and blood of some kind everywhere,
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Speaker 1: you know, the usual. Either way, this sounds like the
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Speaker 1: perfect place some teenagers would love to explore. And while
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Speaker 1: I'm sure most of the stories are just that, but
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Speaker 1: people still claim to hear phantom footsteps echoing through the
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Speaker 1: underground passages, as well as hearing growls and whispers. So
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Speaker 1: I guess it is possible someone might have been missing
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Speaker 1: with something they shouldn't have and brought something in there.
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Speaker 1: What I'll lead that up to you, But people do
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Speaker 1: swear that something is lurking in the forbidden area. Our
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Speaker 1: last stop on this haunted tour of the university is
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Speaker 1: tractically not directly on the campus, but just outside of
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Speaker 1: the Boone city limits, and a lot of the students
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Speaker 1: are known to visit, so I think it counts. This
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Speaker 1: church is known as the Chapel of Rest. It is
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Speaker 1: a serene but unsettling place with deep connections to the
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Speaker 1: region's history. It was erected all the way back in
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Speaker 1: eighteen eighty seven and is older than the university itself,
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Speaker 1: and even to this day, it looks as though it
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Speaker 1: is frozen in time. It's a cozy building that hardly
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Speaker 1: looks like it could hold more than one hundred people
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Speaker 1: at a time, and yet it is known for two
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Speaker 1: ghosts that still linger here. Between the beautiful scene in
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Speaker 1: the ghostly residence, it's no wonder this place is popular
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Speaker 1: between both casual visitors and paranormal investigators. Many claim to
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Speaker 1: hear sounds of weeping or ghostly singing throughout the chapel.
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Speaker 1: Others say they feel unexplainable cold spots appear out of nowhere,
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Speaker 1: and one of the strangest occurrences is that of an apparition.
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Speaker 1: People who have seen her describe her as a woman
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Speaker 1: in nineteenth century clothing. She drifts through the pews or
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Speaker 1: is sometimes seen standing outside of the church. She is
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Speaker 1: assumed to be the one her crying or singing, though
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Speaker 1: there are no clues on who she could be. So
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Speaker 1: sadly we may never know why she's there or why
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Speaker 1: she's crying if it is her that is crying, of course,
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Speaker 1: because there is another spirit here, and probably the most
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Speaker 1: famous of the two, mostly because it is said he
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Speaker 1: left a reminder of himself behind. Back in the nineteen twenties,
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Speaker 1: the pastor at the time found his wife was having
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Speaker 1: an affair. Broken hearted over this discovery, he felt he
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Speaker 1: had no other option but to end it all. Saturday night,
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Speaker 1: before Sunday service, he hung himself from the wooden rafters
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Speaker 1: within the church, which not gonna lie. What a way
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Speaker 1: to probably traumatize not only your wife, but the whole congregation.
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Speaker 1: Cause even if the doors were locked, I'm sure they
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Speaker 1: go looking around to see what is going on. So
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Speaker 1: these people would have thought they were going to their
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Speaker 1: weekly church service just to find him. Instead, he made
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Speaker 1: a statement, I guess, and like I said before, he
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Speaker 1: also left his mark on this place. It is said
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Speaker 1: that the discolored spot on the old wood floorboards is
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Speaker 1: that of the pastor's blood. People believe that this spot
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Speaker 1: is the exact spot where he hung himself, and legend says,
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Speaker 1: no matter how many times they tried to get rid
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Speaker 1: of it, it keeps coming back. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: that part is true for sure, but there are pictures
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Speaker 1: to this day of a mysterious stain. Visitors have also
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Speaker 1: claimed that at night you can see a figure hanging
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Speaker 1: through the windows, and sadly, it is rumored because of
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Speaker 1: these people's beliefs, the pastor wasn't allowed to be buried
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Speaker 1: within the church graveyard and was instead laid to rest
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Speaker 1: just outside of the walls, which I think is bullshit.
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Speaker 1: Just because he took his own life doesn't mean you
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Speaker 1: should disrespect him like that. It's probably no wonder he
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Speaker 1: still roams that area. He probably wants people to remember
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Speaker 1: what these people did to him at his lowest point.
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Speaker 1: Like I could get it if he did something horrible,
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Speaker 1: but he was just in a really bad place and
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Speaker 1: felt he had no other way out of It. Doesn't
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Speaker 1: seem like he should have been buried outside of the
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Speaker 1: church graveyard, the same church he dedicated his life to.
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Speaker 1: Y'all could have showed him a little respect by giving
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Speaker 1: him a burial within the church graveyard. Instead, he seems
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Speaker 1: stuck there wondering why his life turned out the way
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Speaker 1: it did. But this could be why all of them
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Speaker 1: are there. And with this university being tucked within the
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Speaker 1: Appalachian Mountains, it's no wonder there are so many spirits
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Speaker 1: just hanging around that area. These mountains are known for
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Speaker 1: being mysterious and full of a strange, old energy, so
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Speaker 1: the university that has decided to call them home would
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Speaker 1: also be full of the same strange energy. Though. If
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Speaker 1: you're looking to further your education at Appalachian State University,
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Speaker 1: keep in mind you might be sharing your dorm with
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Speaker 1: an extra supernatural roommate, get pushed by an unseen force,
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Speaker 1: or you may see or hear some unexplained things while
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Speaker 1: rushing to classes. But you do also get to spend
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Speaker 1: your college years in a town buried within the mountains
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Speaker 1: that feels pulled right out of a Hallmark movie, just
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Speaker 1: without the cheesy, overdone romance spot. Or maybe you'll get
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Speaker 1: it all. Just remember you'll probably be haunted as well,
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Speaker 1: so it may not be the fairy tale you wish
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Speaker 1: for in the end, but if you can handle that,
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Speaker 1: this school might be the place for you. So tell me.
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Speaker 1: Have you thought about applying to the school or did
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Speaker 1: you go to the school. If you did and you
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Speaker 1: have a paranormal experience, why not tell me about it.
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Speaker 1: I really would love to know what goes on within
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Speaker 1: those halls, because it's really hard to find anyone that
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Speaker 1: really wants to tell their story about it hell, if
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Speaker 1: you have any paranormal experiences you'd like to share, why
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Speaker 1: not send me an email so I can read them
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Speaker 1: on the podcast. I don't know about you, but when
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Speaker 1: others share their paranormal stories, it makes me feel a
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Speaker 1: little less alone in my experiences, and that's why I
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Speaker 1: want to hear all of your stories. I believe it
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Speaker 1: would help us all feel a little less alone. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: I hope this podcast as a whole does that as well.
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