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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome back.
- 0:00Speaker 2: Democrats say they're all about affordability. So why are they
- 0:03Speaker 2: blocking legislation aimed at making life more affordable? Congressman Dan
- 0:07Speaker 2: Crenshaw put that question directly to Democrat Jamie Raskin.
- 0:12Speaker 3: Look, you guys cynically blocked legislation, bipartisan legislation that would reduce,
- 0:18Speaker 3: that would help the affordability issue and that would tackle
- 0:21Speaker 3: the corruption issue, that would help national security. Things that
- 0:24Speaker 3: you guys agreed on. I don't know what bill you're
- 0:27Speaker 3: talking about. Stop insider trading act, rate payer protection act, FISA.
- 0:30Speaker 3: You guys blocked all of that because the midterms were coming.
- 0:33Speaker 3: And I bet you're going to be in favor of
- 0:34Speaker 3: it after the midterms. Do not lie and say anything different.
- 0:40Speaker 2: So if Democrats keep blocking these solutions, what exactly is
- 0:43Speaker 2: their plan? For Senator-elect Abdul El-Sayed, we know the answer
- 0:47Speaker 2: is Medicare for all.
- 0:50Speaker 1: It should never be about retribution.
- 0:51Speaker 4: It's about enforcing the rule of law and most importantly,
- 0:54Speaker 4: delivering for the American public. So if he's interested in
- 0:56Speaker 4: getting money out of politics, putting money in pockets and
- 0:58Speaker 4: passing Medicare for all, that's what I ran to do.
- 1:00Speaker 4: And I'm looking forward to working with anyone who is
- 1:03Speaker 4: willing to do that.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Okay, but who pays for it and how much?
- 1:07Speaker 2: We've had this conversation before, but with progressives and Democratic
- 1:10Speaker 2: Socialist wins across the country, let's revisit the numbers over
- 1:14Speaker 2: at the wall. So the DSA says the rich and
- 1:17Speaker 2: the big corporations, well, they'll pay and foot the bill.
- 1:21Speaker 1: But there's a problem. The math doesn't add up.
- 1:23Speaker 2: So one estimate says taxing income above $ 1 million at 40%.
- 1:30Speaker 2: will raise about $ 400 billion. If you went all the
- 1:34Speaker 2: way to taxing it at 90% above a million dollars,
- 1:38Speaker 2: then you could bring in about $ 2 trillion. Now, let's
- 1:43Speaker 2: compare that to the cost of Medicare for All. Those
- 1:46Speaker 2: cost estimates range anywhere from a low of about $ 40
- 1:49Speaker 2: trillion to a high of $ 75 trillion over 10 years.
- 1:55Speaker 2: And see, that's just the start. There's much more to
- 1:58Speaker 2: the progressive agenda. Canceling student debt and free.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Tuition, $ 3. 6 trillion.
- 2:04Speaker 2: A 32-hour work week, $ 920 billion. Open borders and amnesty,
- 2:09Speaker 2: another $ 527 billion. The Green New Deal, $ 370 billion. Universal
- 2:14Speaker 2: rent control, another $ 16 billion. And then there's the size
- 2:18Speaker 2: of the government itself. Right now, government spending is around
- 2:22Speaker 2: 40% of GDP. Under the DSA agenda, that could climb
- 2:27Speaker 2: anywhere from a low end of 57% of GDP to 92%.
- 2:32Speaker 2: So does this all make things more affordable? DSA National
- 2:38Speaker 2: Co-Chair Ashik Siddique joins me now. Ashik, thanks for being
- 2:41Speaker 2: with us here today. Let's start with our goal together,
- 2:46Speaker 2: if you wouldn't mind. Presuming affordability is the goal. Will
- 2:50Speaker 2: you define for me affordability? What do you want to
- 2:53Speaker 2: make more affordable?
- 2:56Speaker 5: There are so many things in day-to-day life for most
- 2:58Speaker 5: Americans that are becoming out of control expensive. The cost
- 3:01Speaker 5: of rent, the cost of medical bills, electricity, all of
- 3:04Speaker 5: these basic necessities are becoming more expensive day by day.
- 3:07Speaker 5: People are having to work longer hours or multiple jobs.
- 3:10Speaker 6: Just to make ends meet. So let's just start with
- 3:12Speaker 6: health care.
- 3:13Speaker 5: We believe that health care should not be a privilege
- 3:15Speaker 5: that you have to pay extra for. And at the
- 3:17Speaker 5: whims of private companies, health care is a human right
- 3:20Speaker 5: and should be guaranteed as one.
- 3:22Speaker 1: The U.S.
- 3:22Speaker 5: Is the only developed country in the world without free
- 3:24Speaker 5: universal health care.
- 3:26Speaker 1: I wrote those down. I did.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Rent, medicine, electricity, health care. I know you said there's more.
- 3:31Speaker 2: You got a lot more. You said, but let's just
- 3:33Speaker 2: focus on those. I mean, I think health care is
- 3:35Speaker 2: a big one, right? We could even just focus on that.
- 3:37Speaker 2: How are you going to make it more affordable?
- 3:40Speaker 5: Right now, we have a private healthcare system that drives
- 3:43Speaker 5: up costs at the whims of the CEOs of these companies.
- 3:46Speaker 5: People should not go bankrupt or have to go without
- 3:49Speaker 5: care because of an illness because we're at the whims
- 3:52Speaker 5: of CEOs of pharmaceutical and health insurance companies.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Again, the U.S.
- 3:55Speaker 5: Is the only developed country in the world without free
- 3:57Speaker 5: universal health care. So Medicare for all would save thousands
- 4:01Speaker 5: of lives and reduce total health care spending by.
- 4:03Speaker 6: Trillions of dollars. It would save money to have a
- 4:06Speaker 6: public system.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Medicare for all. Okay.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Now, you saw the estimates there. And again, we're just
- 4:12Speaker 2: talking about the health care. There's other things as well.
- 4:15Speaker 2: You've said you want to make more affordable. You saw this. OK,
- 4:18Speaker 2: the estimates are anywhere from 40 trillion to 75 trillion
- 4:21Speaker 2: on how much that would cost over a 10 year period.
- 4:23Speaker 1: How do you pay? That's a lot. Can we agree?
- 4:26Speaker 1: That is a lot. It is expensive. How do you
- 4:28Speaker 1: pay for that?
- 4:29Speaker 5: You know, there are all sorts of different numbers about
- 4:31Speaker 5: estimates of how much it would cost. But let's just
- 4:33Speaker 5: start with what our government is currently paying for. The
- 4:36Speaker 5: Trump administration has already advanced trillions in new spending on
- 4:39Speaker 5: the military budget, trillions in tax cuts that further enrich
- 4:42Speaker 5: the already wealthiest and most powerful people in the world.
- 4:45Speaker 5: All of those are things that could instead be funding
- 4:47Speaker 5: universal public goods like.
- 4:49Speaker 6: Medicare for all.
- 4:50Speaker 2: So you're just going to take current spending and shift it.
- 4:53Speaker 2: You're just going to take it from the military. Your
- 4:55Speaker 2: idea is just take it from the military and create
- 4:58Speaker 2: this new program of Medicare for all.
- 5:00Speaker 5: That would be a huge start. The Trump administration wants
- 5:03Speaker 5: a $ 1. 5 trillion budget for the military next year. That's
- 5:06Speaker 5: more than double what it was just a decade ago.
- 5:09Speaker 5: And half of the military budget right now is going
- 5:11Speaker 5: to private contractors. It's not supporting the troops.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Or our veterans.
- 5:13Speaker 2: The military budget as we speak here today is about
- 5:15Speaker 2: 16% of the federal budget. 60% of the federal budget
- 5:19Speaker 2: is Social Security and Medicare. So I just want you
- 5:21Speaker 2: to understand that, right? That's massive.
- 5:24Speaker 6: Let's talk about the current cost of Medicare.
- 5:26Speaker 1: We're just doing math together. We're not even debating.
- 5:29Speaker 2: This doesn't even have an opinion involved in it. This
- 5:32Speaker 2: is just you and I sitting down at the tax
- 5:34Speaker 2: accountant's office and trying to figure out how to pay
- 5:37Speaker 2: our bills. The current commitments that we have, Medicare and
- 5:41Speaker 2: Social Security, are 60% of the federal budget. And as
- 5:44Speaker 2: you know, we borrow a lot of money. So we're
- 5:47Speaker 2: already borrowing to pay for current commitments.
- 5:49Speaker 1: You're here, you and me together, we're talking to the
- 5:52Speaker 1: accountant and you say, I want more. I want to
- 5:54Speaker 1: spend more.
- 5:55Speaker 2: I want to take my current commitments and I want
- 5:57Speaker 2: to add Medicare for all. And the accountant says, how
- 6:00Speaker 2: are we going to pay for it? And your first
- 6:02Speaker 2: answer is, I presume, under this, let's just gut the
- 6:06Speaker 2: military to zero.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Hell with it, right? Zero. See what happens. See what
- 6:09Speaker 1: China has to say about that.
- 6:10Speaker 6: Let's start by cutting it in half. It was half
- 6:12Speaker 6: just a decade ago.
- 6:14Speaker 2: Okay, you want to cut it in half. Now you've
- 6:15Speaker 2: got $ 8 trillion to spend on Medicare for all. Not
- 6:19Speaker 2: even close to any potential estimate. Not even close, man.
- 6:24Speaker 5: Let's start with the current cost of Medicare just for seniors.
- 6:28Speaker 5: Right now, it's mostly people above the age of 65.
- 6:31Speaker 5: Medicare right now costs $ 1. 2 trillion per year. So that's
- 6:35Speaker 5: a fifth of the population. 70 million people are getting
- 6:37Speaker 5: Medicare right now. So let's just go with the highest
- 6:41Speaker 5: end cost of that. The Trump White House website on
- 6:45Speaker 5: socialism trying to debunk our program says it would be
- 6:48Speaker 5: five times as much as what Medicare costs right now.
- 6:51Speaker 5: But So $ 5 trillion per year is what the Trump
- 6:55Speaker 5: administration is saying it would cost to have Medicare for all.
- 6:58Speaker 5: But most people who would get health care in a
- 7:00Speaker 5: universal system don't need as much intensive health care as
- 7:02Speaker 5: seniors do. It would be mostly preventative care, which would
- 7:05Speaker 5: save way more money over time. I just think about
- 7:08Speaker 5: all the serious health care needs that my own grandparents
- 7:11Speaker 5: had when they had Medicare and Medicaid. But I went
- 7:14Speaker 5: out without basic checkups for years because private insurance was
- 7:17Speaker 5: too expensive.
- 7:19Speaker 1: I got it.
- 7:19Speaker 5: As it is, we borrow money. As it is, we
- 7:24Speaker 5: borrow money. As it is, we will be cutting out
- 7:27Speaker 5: the middleman. We will be cutting out the middleman.
- 7:29Speaker 6: Of health insurance companies.
- 7:31Speaker 1: I get the pitch on Medicare for all.
- 7:32Speaker 6: I don't agree with it. I don't think it's going
- 7:33Speaker 6: to do the things that you— All right.
- 7:35Speaker 1: Enough.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:36Speaker 1: I get the pitch.
- 7:37Speaker 6: No, no, let's say enough with health insurance profiteering. You're
- 7:40Speaker 6: in the sales pitch.
- 7:41Speaker 5: $ 500 would be way more than what it would actually
- 7:44Speaker 5: cost to have a universal health care system if we
- 7:46Speaker 5: cut out the middleman of health insurance companies.
- 7:48Speaker 1: I would just say this to that, okay? Ashik, I
- 7:50Speaker 1: would just say this to that.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Every single entitlement has come with the promise that you
- 7:55Speaker 2: just made.
- 7:56Speaker 1: It's only going to cost X. It's only going to
- 7:58Speaker 1: cost Y.
- 7:59Speaker 2: And every single entitlement has been more expensive than the
- 8:03Speaker 2: promise you make on the campaign trail or the promise
- 8:05Speaker 2: you make today. And almost in every single situation, you
- 8:09Speaker 2: have had to borrow money to keep up with the
- 8:11Speaker 2: promises you made. Just look at what's happening in France today.
- 8:14Speaker 5: There are so many trillions of dollars in tax cuts
- 8:17Speaker 5: to the billionaires right now.
- 8:18Speaker 1: They cannot afford to fulfill their promises.
- 8:20Speaker 6: And people are.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Burning down the streets.
- 8:23Speaker 2: And you're out here, very popularly promising more here. I
- 8:27Speaker 2: think it doesn't end with this utopia you promised. I
- 8:30Speaker 2: think the math inevitably takes you to the streets of Paris.
- 8:35Speaker 2: That's what the math and the accountant, I think, would say. Ashik,
- 8:38Speaker 2: I appreciate you being with us here today. We went
- 8:39Speaker 2: a long time, and that's the end of our time together. Today,
- 8:42Speaker 2: you've been here before.
- 8:44Speaker 1: You've been here before. You'll be here again. Ashik, thanks
- 8:46Speaker 1: for being here.
- 8:47Speaker 6: All right. Thank you.
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