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Gophers on Deck: Recapping UL Monroe & Previewing Minnesota · Johnny's World

0:23
SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to a new episode of the Johnny's World Podcast.
0:27
SPEAKER_01: This is BW, along with my esteemed colleague Johnny.
0:29
SPEAKER_01: How are we doing today, Johnny?
0:31
SPEAKER_00: Hey, BW, doing doing good.
0:32
SPEAKER_00: Another another week of college football going into week two.
0:36
SPEAKER_00: Week one was a was a good one, man.
0:39
SPEAKER_00: Good finishes and lots of excitement on the field.
0:42
SPEAKER_01: I agree.
0:43
SPEAKER_01: There were some decent games.
0:44
SPEAKER_01: I mean, most of the games are blowouts, but there were some good ones.
0:58
SPEAKER_00: Colorado that opened the game.
1:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
1:00
SPEAKER_00: That's that was a really good one.
1:02
SPEAKER_01: That was a great like start out.
1:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it sure was.
1:06
SPEAKER_00: Sure was.
1:07
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, and then the like you said, the LSU game was a most hype game and ended up being just a blowout.
1:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh, which is uh I was rushing back to get back to uh from our game to what to get home to watch it, and then I noticed that it was so far behind, but then I found out it was delayed from the weather delay.
1:25
SPEAKER_00: But they just smoked him, man.
1:27
SPEAKER_00: Dabo looks like he's cooked, man, at Clemson.
1:29
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
1:30
SPEAKER_00: In Florida State, it's Mike Norvell.
1:32
SPEAKER_00: He's he he's he's toast too, it looks like.
1:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:35
SPEAKER_00: Losing the SMU again on uh last Labor Day night.
1:40
SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, lots of uh lots of fun games and good to be back.
1:44
SPEAKER_00: Mississippi State dominated uh like we thought we would.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh Camario really showing showing out, man.
1:50
SPEAKER_00: Really, really impressed.
1:52
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's he's he's at this point of the career uh compared to Dak.
1:57
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's looking better than Dak the way he's just I mean, athleticism, uh just a physical guy, big guy.
2:03
SPEAKER_00: I I've never seen Dak just throw flat footed 60 yards with his wrist, man.
2:08
SPEAKER_00: That's just unbelievable.
2:11
SPEAKER_00: He did that.
2:12
SPEAKER_00: So the real test though is coming up because I mean Louisiana Monroe, I think, was second to the last of all college division one football teams in the rankings.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: So uh I knew we were gonna dominate, but we'll be able to tell, you know, from now on out how good we really are.
2:28
SPEAKER_01: But it was that first third of the game, I I liked how Lebby uh just went for it.
2:33
SPEAKER_01: Like that's what I would do on uh NCAA football, man.
2:36
SPEAKER_01: First first play, play action pass like bomb every single time.
2:40
SPEAKER_01: I'd do that.
2:41
SPEAKER_00: I remember I remember Dan Mullins uh first game at Mississippi State.
2:45
SPEAKER_00: We're playing uh uh Jackson State in 2009.
2:49
SPEAKER_00: First play out of the gate.
2:50
SPEAKER_00: He had uh Tyler Russell throw a bomb to uh or was it Tyson Lee?
2:54
SPEAKER_00: I think it might have been Tyson Lee, a bomb to uh Chad Bumpus on the Chad Bumpus was the freshman all the way down the field, but then it didn't it didn't uh it didn't go through kind of like this one.
3:04
SPEAKER_00: But uh it was awesome.
3:05
SPEAKER_00: It started off just like that.
3:07
SPEAKER_00: And uh it was really cool, man.
3:09
SPEAKER_01: Um getting back in there and it was hot, but it was uh I was driving by uh so I was in we're coming back from Orange Beach, driving by uh kind of like past the circle exit there on Highway 45, heading up towards West Point, and uh it was about an hour before kickoff, and I saw that my my gauge on my car said 100 degrees.
3:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was like, man, that's that's some rough stuff out there.
3:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was on the west side of the stadium, which was better because the east side is the one that was the sun was directly on them, and uh, but it got cold uh actually uh it started having like a breeze later on once the sun went down.
3:46
SPEAKER_00: So it wasn't too bad, but uh for a little while there it was hot, but I was glad I was on that west side to look like a good crowd.
3:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for for opening game, it was it's a pretty good crowd.
3:57
SPEAKER_00: And I think people were just just happy to get back and have college football back again.
4:01
SPEAKER_00: And uh the hope is you know pretty pretty good right now for Mississippi State, especially after that performance, which you know, in the past when we've played teams uh under Levy that were better than we've kind of struggled like it hadn't been just right out, just butt-kicking like this one.
4:19
SPEAKER_00: Like it was it's usually like we win, but like the other teams leading sometime or we're struggling a little bit.
4:26
SPEAKER_00: Man, it was foot on the gas from the get-go and didn't hold back.
4:29
SPEAKER_00: I love to see that, man.
4:30
SPEAKER_00: That was that was awesome because we haven't seen that since.
4:34
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah.
4:35
SPEAKER_00: And you see Zach Arnett, he was wearing he looked like a pumpkin out there, man.
4:38
SPEAKER_00: I know.
4:38
SPEAKER_01: What was with the orange deal?
4:40
SPEAKER_00: So they said that that's for the defense so they can look directly at him.
4:44
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
4:45
SPEAKER_00: He'll stand out compared to the other coaches.
4:48
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but it was awesome to get see Arnett back in there.
4:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he we all know he's a great defensive coach, and uh he just he's all ball, man, just gets into it.
4:57
SPEAKER_00: And uh and now a lot like we talked about earlier, like Levy, I didn't realize he has six new coaches on staff that have been head coaches.
5:04
SPEAKER_00: So that's that's experience round, especially in when it comes down to late game situations where he kind of lost his mind last year not knowing what to do at the end of the game.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: Now he's got people that can can tell him, you know, with experience because they've been there.
5:19
SPEAKER_00: So I like that.
5:20
SPEAKER_00: So man, I'm I'm pretty pretty optimistic right now.
5:23
SPEAKER_00: Uh going into the case.
5:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what about all the all the passing?
5:26
SPEAKER_01: I mean, man, what uh it seemed like it were pass, pass, pass, pass, run, pass, pass, pass, run.
5:33
SPEAKER_01: I know, right?
5:34
SPEAKER_01: We had some big pickups on the you know, on the ground too, for sure.
5:37
SPEAKER_01: We had our running backs to great, but just a lot of a lot of throwing.
5:41
SPEAKER_00: A lot of throwing, and the running back uh JJ Hill kind of stood out first.
5:45
SPEAKER_00: Carry, yeah, went for a touchdown.
5:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
5:47
SPEAKER_00: He's a freshman from uh from Tupelo over a hundred yards because that big carry, but he was uh he was really good.
5:54
SPEAKER_00: I was I love that we were able to get a lot of players in uh in the game.
5:59
SPEAKER_00: Anthony Evans really stood out as a receiver.
6:02
SPEAKER_00: I think that's really good.
6:04
SPEAKER_00: Uh the guy that Levy said at the quarterback club that was gonna be the speed of Brendan Thompson this year is uh Reagan or whatever the guy's name is scored earlier, R-A-D-I-L, um, just freaking fast guy, and it's gonna be awesome.
6:19
SPEAKER_00: So uh yeah, yeah.
6:21
SPEAKER_00: We got some speed and and um a lot of a lot of running backs going in.
6:25
SPEAKER_00: And then the quarterback battle was interesting too, man, because we brought in those two uh guys, uh AJ Swan from Vanity and uh Rashada from uh he's been, I think this is his fourth school in four years.
6:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but the backup is a guy from Jackson Prep named Billy Puck.
6:41
SPEAKER_00: Right.
6:41
SPEAKER_00: So he got the play.
6:43
SPEAKER_00: And they and Levy said that he worked his butt off and he earned the spot.
6:47
SPEAKER_00: He was a walk-on, and now he's the backup quarterback.
6:50
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so that was odd.
6:51
SPEAKER_00: It was odd seeing him out there in the first place, and then odd to see him out there with wearing number 15.
6:56
SPEAKER_00: You would think we would retire Dak's number, but uh that was weird that a quarterback's wearing 15.
7:01
SPEAKER_00: But um, I haven't heard that he's gonna try to sue the school like Jaden Daniels and LSU, but uh that that's that's that's that's funny.
7:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, Billy Puckett, man, that's pretty cool.
7:11
SPEAKER_00: The Jackson Prep guy getting out there and getting the backup job that he earned.
7:15
SPEAKER_00: But hopefully one won't see him anymore because that means Kamario's not on the bridge.
7:19
SPEAKER_00: Mario on the field every single down from now on out.
7:23
SPEAKER_00: Uh without these cupcakes, um, we we got pulled through my head.
7:27
SPEAKER_00: So uh I was really impressed, man.
7:29
SPEAKER_00: Dual threat and and everything.
7:31
SPEAKER_00: I love how he slid at one point and not.
7:34
SPEAKER_00: Right.
7:35
SPEAKER_01: That was kind of awkward that that slide.
7:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
7:38
SPEAKER_00: Like he knew not to take a hit.
7:40
SPEAKER_00: And I laughed.
7:41
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I said I saw either somebody was joking or later said that the Levy told him uh don't get a hit or even take away his NIL money.
7:48
SPEAKER_00: So he slid instead.
7:50
SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, he uh yeah, it was real exciting, man.
7:54
SPEAKER_00: See it, see everything.
7:55
SPEAKER_00: I like I said I left it, I left it half time.
7:57
SPEAKER_00: I had to uh I got up early BW and uh drove down to Meridian and uh got to be in a movie on Sunday, so uh shot that all Sunday afternoon.
8:05
SPEAKER_00: It was pretty cool.
8:06
SPEAKER_00: Got to be a uh it's the same same guy that I worked with last year, and um so I did that.
8:11
SPEAKER_00: It was funny, I was playing a guy named uh I tried I had to do an audition.
8:15
SPEAKER_00: I did the audition for a guy named Mr.
8:18
SPEAKER_00: Lewis, and he was uh he's in favor of the uh Christian flag.
8:23
SPEAKER_00: So um I auditioned for that, but when I got there, they changed my part to Mr.
8:28
SPEAKER_00: Clark.
8:29
SPEAKER_00: So I played Mr.
8:30
SPEAKER_00: Clark, and I was adamant against the Christian flag.
8:33
SPEAKER_00: So it was funny I went from one to the other, but uh did that on Sunday, so that was a lot of fun, and it'll probably be out next year sometime.
8:41
SPEAKER_00: But um, so I didn't get to stay the whole game, but then I got up get home and catch the end of the LSU Clemson game, and man, it was it was just beat down.
8:50
SPEAKER_00: And do you see Kiffins come in after at halftime with Holly Rowe?
8:53
SPEAKER_00: And uh I I was watching that, I was like, what did he just say?
8:56
SPEAKER_00: I rewound it twice, I couldn't understand it.
8:58
SPEAKER_00: And then later I found out where he said, Can you imagine if we had pro players on the team?
9:03
SPEAKER_00: That's pretty crazy.
9:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but uh yeah, all this saga, man, it's just drama.
9:07
SPEAKER_00: Everywhere Elaine Kiffin goes is drama, right and left, man.
9:11
SPEAKER_00: But uh did you hear that yesterday the news was that they're gonna try to kick LC out of the SEC, which which is insane.
9:17
SPEAKER_00: There uh it's just hilarious that they would say that because I mean they bring in so much money, there's no way I had zero percent chance of that happening.
9:24
SPEAKER_00: But then I read if they did, then that uh then they'd just go independent like Notre Dame.
9:28
SPEAKER_00: That ain't uh uh pretty pretty wild how all this is, but just play the games, man.
9:34
SPEAKER_00: That's all we want to see.
9:34
SPEAKER_00: We don't care about the drama and the court and the lawsuits and all that stupid.
9:38
SPEAKER_00: Just play the game.
9:39
SPEAKER_01: Yep, I agree.
9:41
SPEAKER_01: He did say something interesting about the rain delay.
9:44
SPEAKER_01: What did he say?
9:44
SPEAKER_00: I missed that.
9:45
SPEAKER_01: He said that he didn't care that it was 90 minutes or two hours.
9:49
SPEAKER_01: He said that's long, that's that's two more hours they gotta sit in that locker room and how terrible that visitor locker room is.
9:54
SPEAKER_01: And and so he said that's getting in their head too.
9:57
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
9:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
10:01
SPEAKER_00: I love I love how they say I love his quotes though, man.
10:04
SPEAKER_00: I've always light lane, man, and uh a lot of people, everybody hates him, man.
10:08
SPEAKER_00: But I've I just I just think it's funny the way he the way he does, and he doesn't care, man.
10:13
SPEAKER_00: Don't care.
10:13
SPEAKER_00: He pushes all the buttons to get people upset and everything, and they got that mentality of us against the world, and and uh he he was just like, y'all ain't done nothing yet.
10:23
SPEAKER_00: And then someone did you see the I think I might have sent it to you, the leak leaked the halftime speech.
10:28
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, that was crazy.
10:30
SPEAKER_00: That's crazy, man.
10:30
SPEAKER_00: Like I can't believe that guy, if that guy hadn't gotten fired, he's probably gonna get fired for doing that.
10:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh he just went off.
10:36
SPEAKER_00: It's funny, he's he's Kevin Yellen sounds like a high school girl getting in a fight with somebody.
10:41
SPEAKER_00: Hilarious, man.
10:42
SPEAKER_00: But uh he just he's just like F them all, man.
10:45
SPEAKER_00: We're we're we're gonna do what we want to do.
10:47
SPEAKER_00: And and uh, you know, and they have that mentality.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: The the villain mentality, what did he say?
10:53
SPEAKER_00: I saw a quote I like today.
10:54
SPEAKER_00: It said, uh, to succeed at the highest level, you gotta be the villain in someone else's story.
10:59
SPEAKER_00: And then and they put that up there on the at the football facility, and uh they they're just embracing the villain role, which I kind of like, man.
11:07
SPEAKER_00: I like stuff like that.
11:08
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, uh they're they're they're everybody everybody's out to get them, everybody hates them, and all that sort of stuff.
11:14
SPEAKER_00: So uh, but it'll really I'm we're really interested next week, man.
11:17
SPEAKER_00: That'll be the uh the big game, man.
11:20
SPEAKER_00: Everybody's talking about.
11:20
SPEAKER_00: So we'll see what really what happens with LC.
11:23
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
11:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
11:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh, BW this week on our end, we got uh we got Minnesota traveling up to Minnesota, and we talked about that in the preview.
11:31
SPEAKER_00: You know, that's a game where we've had games like this with I guess Arizona, Arizona State, teams that that aren't in the SEC, but they're they're pretty they're in another conference, and it's good to get your feet wet playing teams like that.
11:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh, because Louisiana Monroe, even though we look so good, like I said, they were they're I think the second or third and the last in the rankings of all college football, so at Division I.
11:54
SPEAKER_00: So really couldn't tell exactly what we have, but we'll be able to tell a lot more after this weekend with on the road against Minnesota.
12:01
SPEAKER_00: Uh I messaged my friends from Minnesota, I talked about last week, and they uh they hit they were I told them they're they were we're playing up there and and they're actually Badger fans.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: I thought they live in Minnesota, they're Wisconsin fans.
12:14
SPEAKER_00: So they said they'd be they'd be pulling for Mississippi State against the Gophers.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: And I asked if I was going back to Omaha anytime.
12:20
SPEAKER_00: They they go to Omaha every year.
12:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh they thought I was talking about baseball.
12:24
SPEAKER_00: They know we're talking about football.
12:25
SPEAKER_00: They're we're coming up there for football, and they're Wisconsin fans, but they'll be cheering for us.
12:31
SPEAKER_00: But uh, but yeah, Minnesota.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't know much about them.
12:35
SPEAKER_00: Because I I'd read where they had a long winning streak, but they were usually pretty good.
12:39
SPEAKER_00: Their coach is a good good coach, PJ Fleck, I believe is his name.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
12:43
SPEAKER_00: He's good.
12:43
SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be a test, man.
12:45
SPEAKER_00: And uh I think I think we can get a win, but I do think it's gonna be close, man.
12:50
SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's gonna be a blowout by any means.
12:51
SPEAKER_00: And no, I think it's gonna be back and forth.
12:53
SPEAKER_00: And I think I think we have, I think if Kamara if the line blocks, Camario can take it, take, put us on the put us on his back and carry us to victory.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: He's that type of player, and and the whole world saw that.
13:05
SPEAKER_00: You know, I saw the Osman rankings uh preseason or after week one uh today.
13:10
SPEAKER_00: I was looking at it, and I just kind of laughed myself.
13:12
SPEAKER_00: Camario is not even on the list.
13:13
SPEAKER_00: Like people people they give him any time of day because it's Mississippi State.
13:19
SPEAKER_00: But man, just his performance outshine pretty much everybody.
13:22
SPEAKER_00: I mean, just dominant uh all around.
13:24
SPEAKER_00: So I think just having him on the team uh is a is a big plus in in in order to get a win against uh against Minnesota.
13:33
SPEAKER_00: So what um if I had to take if I pick the score of BW, I'm gonna say something.
13:37
SPEAKER_00: I think it's gonna be close, man.
13:38
SPEAKER_00: I think I'm gonna say something like uh 2117, somewhere around there.
13:44
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be on that.
13:46
SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
13:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, my thoughts are about the same as yours.
13:50
SPEAKER_01: Um I think it's gonna be close.
13:52
SPEAKER_01: And it's interesting, you know, we I was just saying about how they were passing the ball so much.
13:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to decide is were they trying to just not give as many reps to the running backs?
14:04
SPEAKER_01: Do they are is our offensive line better at pass block than run block?
14:09
SPEAKER_01: Is there a reason they were doing that?
14:11
SPEAKER_01: Uh are they thinking that you know they they're gonna have to be passing a bunch of this year?
14:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm just curious like how that's gonna end up.
14:18
SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, it doesn't matter.
14:21
SPEAKER_01: Like you said, either way, we've got Camario because he can run, he can pass.
14:25
SPEAKER_01: But I just kind of go back to that that bowl game last year and how terrible our offensive line was.
14:31
SPEAKER_01: And you know, even Camario just you could he just was getting beat, beat up.
14:36
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he was just getting sacked and taken out and and everything.
14:39
SPEAKER_01: And so um assuming that our line is is much better and improved than they were last year, and we can actually protect him, I think he is the X factor, and I think we we end up doing it.
14:50
SPEAKER_01: So I'm just hoping that the line is is good.
14:53
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I was thinking same line around 24-21, we win it.
14:58
SPEAKER_01: That's that's what I was thinking too.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think it's gonna be a close game, but like you said, uh the O-line is the key to it all taking block for him, and he's in in for a big day again.
15:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but I I don't know about passing compared to running.
15:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure why they did that, but um I think I think we got the weapons now.
15:18
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're SEC team and they're not, and I that just we've got better athletes, I think, are all around the board, but um but they they do have a good coach and it is at Minnesota.
15:29
SPEAKER_00: So would not shock me, B Do if we lose this game.
15:32
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, it wouldn't be the end of the world if we lose.
15:34
SPEAKER_00: A lot of people will jump off the bandwagon and everything, say, oh, we lost, we lost.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: But you know, with this what we talked about in the preview.
15:41
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you've got to because October, you're looking really at four losses in the row.
15:45
SPEAKER_00: I mean, unless something miraculous happens.
15:47
SPEAKER_00: You I know you picked us to beat Alabama, but those those, but you had to lose into Missouri.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: So though those those October games and that Missouri game are are crucial uh to quick get off to a good start because those are those we're gonna be underdogs in all those, and it'll be a miracle to win them.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: So losing to Minnesota, I mean it won't be the end of the world, but it's it's digging a hole fast because you get to South Carolina and you've lost to Minnesota and you drop drop it to South Carolina, your season's pretty much shot, man, because you've got to get one, at least one out of these next two weekends uh to give yourself a shot.
16:23
SPEAKER_00: But it'd be nice, it'd be nice to get both of them, but you gotta at least get one because if you if you drop it to Minnesota this week and then go on the road and lose Columbia, it's gonna be a mess.
16:33
SPEAKER_00: But um But I I think I I'm feeling confident and optimistic right now after what I saw.
16:38
SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna give us the W.
16:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I really think we'll we'll take it, but uh we'll see.
16:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, I've taken Naddie uh uh to the dog paddle is Saturday.
16:49
SPEAKER_00: That's where I we remember last year.
16:51
SPEAKER_00: I had the guy on the new main society talking about it, and we went last year.
16:55
SPEAKER_00: She me and Bo used to go all the time.
16:57
SPEAKER_00: And I took her last year and she wasn't really sure what to think.
17:01
SPEAKER_00: She jumped in the pool and then went straight to the edge and then wanted to get out to uh make to see how she does this year.
17:06
SPEAKER_00: And then afterwards, I think I'm gonna go up to Pickle Row to watch the game, BW there.
17:11
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
17:11
SPEAKER_00: They're having a watch party up there.
17:13
SPEAKER_00: Um I haven't been, you know, we had the guy on talking about Pickle Road a few weeks ago.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: I've been meaning to go by there.
17:19
SPEAKER_00: I just hadn't gotten a chance.
17:20
SPEAKER_00: But I think I'm um after the dog uh pool party, I'm gonna put her home and head over to Pickle Row and check it out and see what's like there um and watch the game there, there um all the big screens and everything.
17:32
SPEAKER_00: So looking forward to that and hopefully we can get a get a win and come back for SEC play starts.
17:38
SPEAKER_00: So we'll see.
17:39
SPEAKER_00: And sounds like a good day to me.
17:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:42
SPEAKER_01: Let me let me ask before we we finish here, let me ask you a philosophical question, Johnny.
17:47
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
17:48
SPEAKER_01: I was thinking about this because I was watching the Memphis game um this past weekend, and you know, they got a they they've updated the Liberty Bowl.
17:55
SPEAKER_01: Um it looks really cool.
17:57
SPEAKER_01: Um, it looks really nice, and it's uh it's just it's a cool atmosphere.
18:02
SPEAKER_01: And like when they're uh when they're good, it's it's like a fun place to watch a game.
18:08
SPEAKER_01: Right.
18:09
SPEAKER_01: And I was thinking, you know, they're the American conference, and they're you know, they've been up and down, but consistently they've been like an eight or ten win program for a while.
18:22
SPEAKER_01: Um and so they have one or two big games a year for the most part, you know, and then they the rest of the games they're they're winning for the most part.
18:31
SPEAKER_01: So if you could go back in time, would you want to be in a conference like that as Mississippi State, or would you still prefer to be in the SEC?
18:42
SPEAKER_01: I know the SEC has the big reputation and all that, but you know, we're at the bottom tier of the SEC.
18:48
SPEAKER_01: That's just how we are.
18:49
SPEAKER_01: Would you rather win eight or ten games every year, play one or two big games every year, and have a decent chance of beating them, and then maybe be in the conversation at this point for college football playoff because you're in a lesser conference, but you win you know more games, so you have a better chance to get in the playoffs.
19:10
SPEAKER_01: Just kind of knowing what we know now, how the system is structured, would you still want to be in the SEC?
19:17
SPEAKER_00: Can you do, I guess, can you can you do I'd in football, I'd rather be like what you just said in in Memphis, but in baseball and basketball, I want to be in the SEC.
19:26
SPEAKER_00: So can you do that, or do you have to be in that conference for all sports?
19:29
SPEAKER_00: I guess.
19:29
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's interesting.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I I would love I don't want to be we're baseball, we need to be in the SEC.
19:35
SPEAKER_00: Basketball kind of scene, but football, there's no chance Mississippi State will make the college football playoffs at the rate the college sports is right now with NIL and all that stuff.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: There's no way, there's no way we can get in.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so you being in the conference, like what you just said with with Memphis, you have that chance of getting in.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: Look at look at where Dan Mullen's doing at UNLV, even though he lost to Memphis.
19:57
SPEAKER_00: He's that you know, that team Boise is always in.
20:01
SPEAKER_00: So that that Mountain West always is a share to get a spot in.
20:03
SPEAKER_00: So uh being in a conference like that, yeah, man, heck yeah, I take that because you got at least chance.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: You got to fight and chance to get in the playoffs, and then you never know what happens when you get in, compared to you know, being in the bottom dweller of the SEC, even though you're getting you're getting money and you're getting to play all the SEC teams, which is cool.
20:20
SPEAKER_00: But at the end of the day, you're just really fighting to play for a bowl game.
20:23
SPEAKER_00: Compared to if you're in a conference like that, Memphis, you're in this cussing of making a college football playoff.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: But I wouldn't want to do it if you had this, if you man, baseball, I mean Mississippi State's dominating SEC and baseball, so you wouldn't want to be that for another conference, but I don't know.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: Notre Dame Notre Dame's independent in football, and then they're in conferences in the other sports.
20:44
SPEAKER_00: So uh I don't know.
20:46
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, man, I'm with you on that.
20:48
SPEAKER_00: I I I would definitely do that for football because it gives you a chance, you know.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's interesting.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: I mean, and then you're just like because like you said, you're playing for a ball game essentially, and yeah.
21:00
SPEAKER_01: I mean, like Ole Miss, like obviously Lane Kiffin's.
21:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're going they're they're down, man.
21:05
SPEAKER_00: They're going down on it right now.
21:06
SPEAKER_00: Uh the Louisville game, they struggled.
21:09
SPEAKER_00: Louisville, I turned it off because I thought Ole Miss was going up by two scores.
21:12
SPEAKER_00: And now I look up and I'm like, oh my God, it went down.
21:15
SPEAKER_00: I missed the I watched it later.
21:16
SPEAKER_00: I saw they kicked a field goal, but they let Louisville back in the game.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: So man, I I'm not down.
21:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm I said that in the preview.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: I'm not big on Ole Miss this year, and I think they're gonna realize Lane Kiffin is the is the reason why they were so good.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, I mean they that was I don't even think it's Lane as much as they got lucky with Trinidad.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
21:36
SPEAKER_01: Trinidad I think last year they didn't have Trinidad.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: They they they have one or two other losses.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh yeah, he's a he's a he's a playmaker for sure.
21:45
SPEAKER_01: So I mean that that's I mean you you could be like a quarterback away, just like with Dak and all that, but it still seems like a big mountain in the SEC, especially now with where nine conference games.
21:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: The fact that you get a you get a Trinidad like a situation like that is like one in a million chances that a transfer guy comes in unknown and then he ends up being a superstar.
22:09
SPEAKER_00: That's just very, very rare.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: But I just I I don't see C Ole Mess doing good.
22:15
SPEAKER_00: And and uh like you said, it's just uh that that was their chance.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: I I feel like that was their chance last year.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: And and obviously we had our chance in with with Dak in 2014.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: And like if we had the playoffs back then, we would have been in it.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: But this day and age, man, with NIL and all the teams, I mean, we're we're at the bottom of the conference.
22:35
SPEAKER_00: We're just literally fighting to get six wins to get to a bowl game.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, bowl games are cool and everything, but it's like, you know, what are you really doing?
22:43
SPEAKER_00: It's just it's just playing an extra game and you're getting getting swag and stuff and getting to go.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: And the playoffs is what you're really shooting for.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like if you're in in college basketball and we're playing for the NIT every year, and we know we could never get into big damn.
22:57
SPEAKER_00: That's similar to that.
22:59
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I don't know, man.
23:02
SPEAKER_00: It's uh it's a crazy world of sports now, but all around the mighty dollar, man.
23:07
SPEAKER_00: That's what it all boils down to.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: Is is the money.
23:11
SPEAKER_00: But it I do like it from an outsider's perspective as far as like Alabama's not winning every year, uh, like that.
23:17
SPEAKER_00: Or you know, you know, we had that you had those teams like Alabama every single year, you knew going in.
23:22
SPEAKER_00: And then now it's kind of open.
23:24
SPEAKER_00: We kind of know who the top five or six teams are in the country, but then you got someone like Ole Miss last year who can come along and surprise some folks.
23:32
SPEAKER_00: So um who's gonna be that team this year, I don't know.
23:35
SPEAKER_00: Or Indiana.
23:36
SPEAKER_00: Indiana, for example, wins all team last year, you know.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: That would have never happened with with Saban was it Alabama, like if Indiana was in the SEC, they wouldn't have done it.
23:45
SPEAKER_00: No, absolutely not.
23:46
SPEAKER_01: Somebody would have, I mean, some even as good as they were, somebody would have knocked them out.
23:49
SPEAKER_01: They may have they may not even make the playoffs because they would have had a loss and somebody would have been ahead, you know.
23:54
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
23:56
SPEAKER_00: I agree.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: And speaking of that, uh Big Ten, uh, what about the Michigan ending?
24:00
SPEAKER_00: Wasn't that crazy?
24:01
SPEAKER_00: Man, I don't see how there was a second left on that clock.
24:05
SPEAKER_01: I there wasn't.
24:06
SPEAKER_01: I don't see it.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: I don't see it.
24:08
SPEAKER_01: But everybody's saying that they got it right, even the the Western Michigan people.
24:11
SPEAKER_01: I I don't know.
24:12
SPEAKER_00: I they that was a bad thing.
24:15
SPEAKER_00: If the scenario had changed and it was Western Michigan uh and the clock ran out of them, they would not have given them a second back.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: No, they gave it back only because it was Michigan and and who they are.
24:26
SPEAKER_00: It's just crazy.
24:26
SPEAKER_00: And then I read where yesterday they said that they they looked at the second clock.
24:30
SPEAKER_00: I was like, what's a second clock?
24:31
SPEAKER_00: I never heard of a second clock.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: Uh so I uh but that it the clock ran out.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: It was obvious.
24:37
SPEAKER_00: But but the fact that they were able to do that with one second was pretty nuts.
24:40
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, um, but that's just it kind of makes me mad.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: That's just the way college sports are now, is it's all about the money.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: And Michigan brings in the money and the big time program, blue blood.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: So of course they're gonna give them a shot.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: But and the little guy, poor guy, Western Michigan trying to, you know, storm the field and then win win the biggest game in school history, and then that gets taken away.
25:01
SPEAKER_00: I'd oh I'd be sick, man, if that was if it happened to us and that something like that would happen to Mississippi State, though.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, because they would not give us the second pack if that was the case.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: Like the Saints.
25:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: Same deal with the Saints, yep.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: Pass interference.
25:15
SPEAKER_00: Yes, same deal.
25:17
SPEAKER_00: Yep, it's always on the wrong end of the end of things.
25:21
SPEAKER_00: And they just it like uh like old coach Cheryl said back in when we played the I'll never forget this, played in the SEC championship game um in '98 against Tennessee, who won the national championship that year.
25:33
SPEAKER_00: There was a blatant, uh, obvious holding call on Tennessee, and he was arguing with the ref up and down.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: And then uh someone said someone said that he's like, I saw it, I can't call it, coach.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
25:46
SPEAKER_00: One of the refs said that.
25:47
SPEAKER_00: You know why?
25:48
SPEAKER_00: Because they because they wanted Tennessee in the national championship, bringing all the big money in and the big school, and they didn't want little old Mississippi State to upset them.
25:57
SPEAKER_00: So it's just because it's been good, this has all been going on for years and years and years, and they're gonna protect the big boys at all costs.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: And that's just the way it is in in college sports these days.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: But uh, but I'm like you, man.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: Going back to the original question, uh yeah, it seems like it'd be a lot more uh easier to compete if you're in a smaller conference in football uh for Mississippi State for a team like Mississippi State, uh, rather than hang in with SEC.
26:24
SPEAKER_00: But uh that's just the way it is.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: So maybe instead of kicking LSU out, they can kick us out.
26:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
26:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:33
SPEAKER_01: Well, uh we need to have some more of these discussions.
26:36
SPEAKER_01: Let's think of another one for next week.
26:37
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, yeah, they're they're pretty, pretty good.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh pretty good discussions.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, next week we got uh we we're on the road to South Carolina.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: We'll see how that goes.
26:48
SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, hopefully we can get a win.
26:51
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
26:52
SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know the crowd size.
26:53
SPEAKER_00: I I thought there are a couple people going, but I don't know a lot of people that are going a long way up there in Minnesota and back.
27:00
SPEAKER_00: But um yeah, don't really know what else to think besides just go out there and play.
27:06
SPEAKER_00: We got we got the star player, Kamario, but it all depends, like you said, on the offensive line protection.
27:11
SPEAKER_00: Can they can they block for him and and get the running game and passing game going?
27:15
SPEAKER_00: And if so, then we'll be successful.
27:19
SPEAKER_01: Well, hopefully we're over here talking about a victory next week.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
27:23
SPEAKER_01: Okay, thanks everybody for listening.
27:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we'll talk to y'all next week.
27:28
SPEAKER_01: All right.
27:28
SPEAKER_01: See you, Johnny.
27:30
SPEAKER_00: Bye bye.