Latest / Pillar Church | Holland, MI | Sermon Podcast / November 1, 2026 | Jon Brown
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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: The Lord be with you.
- 0:03SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
- 0:05SPEAKER_00: What a spectacularly gorgeous fall day.
- 0:10SPEAKER_00: This is like nine in a row.
- 0:13SPEAKER_00: It's great.
- 0:14SPEAKER_00: A bunch of people sitting on the lawn.
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: You know, I'd love to hear a shout from the lawn.
- 0:22SPEAKER_00: A host of folks in the gathering space.
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: Let's hear a shout from the gathering space.
- 0:28SPEAKER_00: It's amazing.
- 0:30SPEAKER_00: Inside, outside, online, in here.
- 0:34SPEAKER_00: God attentive, Christ responsive.
- 0:40SPEAKER_00: Last night's Halloween trick-or-treating.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: Did you enjoy?
- 0:46SPEAKER_00: Gives way to today's All Saints claiming, turns into tomorrow's All Souls Embracing, which might sound a little spooky, but it's deeply liturgical.
- 0:59SPEAKER_00: I'm excited.
- 1:00SPEAKER_00: Tomorrow night at 7 o'clock, we're going to gather with my friend Zawadi, who's partnering with Jonathan in our worship life as we gather on All Souls Day to open our souls to the living God in song and story and song and some more singing.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: So I'll see you tomorrow night at 7 o'clock All Souls Day.
- 1:23SPEAKER_00: Last night I was sitting by the fire handing out so much candy.
- 1:32SPEAKER_00: The neighbor to our north drills hot dogs.
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: The neighbor to our south smoked a pork butt all day and handed out pulled pork sandwiches.
- 1:48SPEAKER_00: And they come to our house and we're trying to not run out of Smarties.
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: It's so bad.
- 1:54SPEAKER_00: We're like opening the Smarty pack and just putting one.
- 1:59SPEAKER_00: We are the family that has their candy thrown away when the parents inspect it at the end of the night.
- 2:08SPEAKER_00: I took some pictures of it's probably illegal, but you know, that's a pillarite, actually, in there somewhere.
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: There's a bunch of pillarites right there.
- 2:18SPEAKER_00: Little New York baseball players.
- 2:22SPEAKER_00: Now you gotta pause pause on this one.
- 2:23SPEAKER_00: Do you see that?
- 2:26SPEAKER_00: That's that's Luther with a shirt that says nailed it.
- 2:32SPEAKER_00: That's that's a church joke right there.
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: And then, of course, this one made my heart skip a beat.
- 2:40SPEAKER_00: Guess who was roped into that one?
- 2:44SPEAKER_00: So all kinds of people are coming to our house, and I noticed there's like a ton of little kids dressed up as heroes.
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: Super, there's some more pictures.
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: Like uh that's I think uh Ray from uh Star Wars, yeah.
- 3:01SPEAKER_00: Then we got some Batmen right there.
- 3:06SPEAKER_00: There were more Spider-Men than I could count by the end of the night.
- 3:10SPEAKER_00: I just like that one.
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: Yay! Heroes.
- 3:18SPEAKER_00: Look at all the heroes.
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: Isn't that awesome?
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: Heroes.
- 3:27SPEAKER_00: So I think what was happening in my head, I'm seeing all these heroes running around my neighborhood, and it's converging in my heart on All Saints Day.
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: So I started doing this thing in my head as I was anticipating the weekend.
- 3:40SPEAKER_00: Heroes and saints.
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: We love heroes, magnificent people, doing magnificent things against magnificent odds.
- 3:58SPEAKER_00: The Bible offers us the stories of saints, broken people, who are also blessed, fallen people who are also forgiven.
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: You see, kind of the conflict, saints and heroes.
- 4:18SPEAKER_00: I read an article this week, um, thought it kind of got to it.
- 4:23SPEAKER_00: A lot has gone wrong in Christian history, and a lot has gone wrong in the here and now.
- 4:29SPEAKER_00: Christianity can be a faith of serrated edges.
- 4:33SPEAKER_00: So many people have been wounded in the name of Jesus.
- 4:37SPEAKER_00: And yet there remains, for those of the Christian faith, the true Jesus, himself a God of wounds, a person of incomprehensible moral beauty who came not to judge the world but to save it.
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: If Christians are going to be active in public life, we would all do well to choose for our master identity, Jesus, over the gods of this world.
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: Saints.
- 5:00SPEAKER_00: Whose master identity is Jesus over the gods of this world, saints, broken, blessed, fallen, forgiven, saints, following on the way towards Christ in this complex world that we live in, filled with so much spin and so many voices, so much talking, AI confusion, saints, trying to navigate the realities of our lives with the duplicities that exist in us and the grace we've been embraced by.
- 5:30SPEAKER_00: Out in this wild world, saints.
- 5:34SPEAKER_00: So here's what I was thinking.
- 5:37SPEAKER_00: I want you to listen with me to a saint story.
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: You know, let me clarify again: a saint story, broken and blessed, fallen and forgiven, duplicitous and redeemed, you know, saints.
- 5:56SPEAKER_00: I want you to listen I'm just gonna tip my hat.
- 5:59SPEAKER_00: I want you to listen specifically for the prayer prayed.
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: This is Solomon's story, Saint Solomon.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: You remember what Solomon asks for?
- 6:12SPEAKER_00: Anybody remember?
- 6:14SPEAKER_00: I want you to listen for what Solomon asks for.
- 6:18SPEAKER_00: Solomon made a marriage alliance with Pharaoh, king of Egypt.
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: He took and brought Pharaoh's daughter into the city of David, because he had not yet built his own house, or the house of the Lord, or the wall around Jerusalem.
- 6:48SPEAKER_00: The people were offering sacrifice at the high places, however.
- 6:55SPEAKER_00: Because as yet there was not a house for the name of the Lord.
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: Solomon loved the Lord and walked according to the statutes of his father David, except he offered sacrifice at the high places.
- 7:16SPEAKER_00: He went to Gibeon to offer sacrifice there, for that was the principal high place.
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: He used to offer a thousand burnt offerings on that altar.
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: At Gibeon.
- 7:28SPEAKER_00: The Lord appeared to Solomon in a dream by night and said, Ask what I shall give you.
- 7:38SPEAKER_00: And Solomon said, You have shown your great and steadfast love to your servant, my father David, because he walked before you in faithfulness, in righteousness, in uprightness of heart towards you, and you've kept your great and steadfast love for him by giving him a son to sit on his throne today.
- 7:57SPEAKER_00: And now, my Lord and God, you've placed his son on this throne amidst your people, even though I'm a little child and don't know how to go out or come in.
- 8:18SPEAKER_00: You've set me among this people you've chosen.
- 8:23SPEAKER_00: So numerous they can't be numbered or counted.
- 8:27SPEAKER_00: And now, therefore, give to your servant an understanding mind to govern this your great people, able to discern between good and evil, for who can govern this your great people?
- 8:44SPEAKER_00: It pleased the Lord that Solomon asked this.
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: And he did not ask for himself riches or long life or the life of his enemies, but he asked for an understanding mind to discern what is right.
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: And the Lord said, I will do for you according to your word.
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: I'll give you an understanding mind.
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: There'll be no one like you before you, and no one shall arise like you after you.
- 9:15SPEAKER_00: I'll also give you what you have not asked for: riches and honor your whole life long.
- 9:23SPEAKER_00: No king shall compare with you.
- 9:25SPEAKER_00: If you walk in faithfulness, keeping my statutes and commandments as your father David walked, then I will lengthen your life.
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: Solomon woke up.
- 9:36SPEAKER_00: It had been a dream.
- 9:38SPEAKER_00: He came to Jerusalem and stood before the Ark of the Covenant of the Lord and offered burnt offerings and offerings of well-being and provided a feast for his servants.
- 9:49SPEAKER_00: Later, two women came to the king and stood before him.
- 9:58SPEAKER_00: The first woman said, My Lord, this woman and I were in the same house.
- 10:09SPEAKER_00: And I gave birth while she was in the house.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: On the third day after I gave birth, she also gave birth.
- 10:17SPEAKER_00: We were together in the house, there was no one else in the house, it was just the two of us in the house.
- 10:22SPEAKER_00: At night, this woman's son died because she lay on him.
- 10:27SPEAKER_00: And at midnight, she took my son from beside your servant while I slept and placed him at her breast, and she placed her dead son at my breast.
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: In the morning, when I rose to nurse, I saw that the child was dead.
- 10:47SPEAKER_00: And when I looked in the morning, clearly it was not the son I had borne.
- 10:51SPEAKER_00: And the other woman said, No, the living son is my son, and the dead son is your son.
- 10:55SPEAKER_00: And the first woman said, No, the dead son is your son, and the living son is my son.
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: So they argued before the king.
- 11:02SPEAKER_00: Solomon said, The one woman said, My son is alive and your son is dead.
- 11:09SPEAKER_00: The other woman said, Your son is dead, and my son is alive.
- 11:15SPEAKER_00: The king said, Bring me a sword.
- 11:20SPEAKER_00: So they brought a sword before the king.
- 11:26SPEAKER_00: And he said, Divide the child in half.
- 11:30SPEAKER_00: Give half to one and half to the other.
- 11:37SPEAKER_00: And the woman whose child was alive said, Don't divide him.
- 11:45SPEAKER_00: Don't kill him.
- 11:47SPEAKER_00: And the other woman said, It shall be neither mine nor yours, divide it.
- 11:53SPEAKER_00: And the king said, Give the child to the woman, for she is his mother, do not kill him.
- 12:04SPEAKER_00: And all the people were in awe of the judgment the king rendered because they perceived the wisdom of God was in him to execute justice.
- 12:19SPEAKER_00: This is the word of the Lord.
- 12:22SPEAKER_00: Thanks be to God.
- 12:23SPEAKER_00: It's 1 Kings chapter 3.
- 12:25SPEAKER_00: It's the story of Solomon.
- 12:27SPEAKER_00: Did you notice the prayer?
- 12:29SPEAKER_00: Give to your servant an understanding mind.
- 12:33SPEAKER_00: Since it's all Saints' Day, it's November 1, 2026, I'm thinking maybe we could borrow that prayer.
- 12:40SPEAKER_00: Give to your servants an understanding mind.
- 12:46SPEAKER_00: In a world of spin, of hyper-reactivity, AI confusion and voices telling us who's good and who's bad and what's right and what's wrong.
- 12:57SPEAKER_00: Give to your servant an understanding mind.
- 13:01SPEAKER_00: Anyone agree?
- 13:02SPEAKER_00: Anybody think maybe that would be a decent prayer?
- 13:06SPEAKER_00: Me and Rick, we're gonna pray that prayer.
- 13:11SPEAKER_00: Saint Solomon's prayer.
- 13:13SPEAKER_00: You can't really tell, though.
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: Let's be honest.
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: Can we be honest about Solomon?
- 13:17SPEAKER_00: Can't really tell.
- 13:19SPEAKER_00: What's going on with Solomon here?
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, he prays this prayer and God really likes it.
- 13:26SPEAKER_00: God's like, that's a great prayer.
- 13:28SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna do it for you.
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: You know what?
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna do that for you, and I'm gonna do what you didn't ask.
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna do it all.
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: Good God, what a great day for Solomon.
- 13:37SPEAKER_00: But then, you know, you get there's it's a little confusing because it starts out now, Solomon made a marriage alliance with Pharaoh, king of Egypt.
- 13:44SPEAKER_00: Why are we always going back to Egypt?
- 13:47SPEAKER_00: Like so much of the story is like getting us out of Egypt.
- 13:50SPEAKER_00: Remember that part where we're like the ten plagues and they get to the Red Sea, and the people are like, let's just go back to Egypt.
- 13:56SPEAKER_00: And Moses is like, nope, nope, stay still.
- 13:58SPEAKER_00: And the sea parts, and they walk on dry land toward the promised of freedom land.
- 14:04SPEAKER_00: And here we are again.
- 14:05SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
- 14:06SPEAKER_00: He made a marriage alliance with Pharaoh.
- 14:08SPEAKER_00: I don't think that's good.
- 14:10SPEAKER_00: I don't think that's good.
- 14:12SPEAKER_00: But then it's like an about face, but Solomon loved the Lord.
- 14:16SPEAKER_00: He walked in faithfulness like his father David.
- 14:18SPEAKER_00: So what is what do we do?
- 14:19SPEAKER_00: I don't get it.
- 14:21SPEAKER_00: What are we to make of Solomon?
- 14:26SPEAKER_00: And then there's the stuff about David.
- 14:27SPEAKER_00: Did you notice that stuff?
- 14:30SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, David uh walked in faithfulness and righteousness and uprightness of anybody remember any of the David stories?
- 14:41SPEAKER_00: Like, what I don't know anymore.
- 14:43SPEAKER_00: What do I don't know?
- 14:44SPEAKER_00: What are we doing?
- 14:45SPEAKER_00: And then you get this story, the story about the two women.
- 14:48SPEAKER_00: Uh Bob Fisher, my friend, I was telling him what passage I'd be preaching from before the service, and he said, Please tell me you're gonna stop at verse 15.
- 14:56SPEAKER_00: What's up with this story?
- 14:58SPEAKER_00: These two women, I mean, whatever you want to make of it, there's these two women, they're in a house.
- 15:01SPEAKER_00: So and the and the story makes a big deal about the house.
- 15:04SPEAKER_00: It's repeated like seven times.
- 15:06SPEAKER_00: So pay it, and the story begins, he hadn't yet built the house.
- 15:09SPEAKER_00: So there's something going on here about the house, and these two women, there's a boy, and we want to divide it.
- 15:13SPEAKER_00: It's as if the story is trying to say, you can't live in this house with a divided heart.
- 15:19SPEAKER_00: You can't serve two masters.
- 15:22SPEAKER_00: Here we are again, Solomon, duplicitous.
- 15:24SPEAKER_00: I don't know what to do.
- 15:26SPEAKER_00: What do you do with Solomon?
- 15:31SPEAKER_00: Saint Solomon.
- 15:33SPEAKER_00: Broken, blessed, fallen, forgiven.
- 15:42SPEAKER_00: You know what it reminds me of?
- 15:44SPEAKER_00: You know what this reminds me of?
- 15:46SPEAKER_00: It reminds me of that uh sermon John Henry Newman preached, uh, virtues and vices in every combination.
- 15:56SPEAKER_00: You know what it reminds me of?
- 15:58SPEAKER_00: It reminds me of uh, since this is all Saints' Day, Luther, Luther has that great phrase, simul ustis et peccator, simultaneously sinner and saint.
- 16:07SPEAKER_00: You know what it reminds me of?
- 16:08SPEAKER_00: It reminds me of Alexander Soltzenits and I love these lines.
- 16:13SPEAKER_00: Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart and through all human hearts.
- 16:25SPEAKER_00: This line shifts inside us.
- 16:27SPEAKER_00: It oscillates with the years, and even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained, and even in the best of all hearts there remains an unuprooted small corner of evil.
- 16:37SPEAKER_00: So what is it?
- 16:38SPEAKER_00: Ah you know what it reminds me of?
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: You know who it reminds me of?
- 16:47SPEAKER_00: Me.
- 16:49SPEAKER_00: You know who else it reminds me of?
- 16:53SPEAKER_00: You.
- 16:57SPEAKER_00: Broken, blessed.
- 16:59SPEAKER_00: The prayer.
- 17:00SPEAKER_00: We know what we're capable of.
- 17:03SPEAKER_00: We know what we can do.
- 17:06SPEAKER_00: We have done it.
- 17:08SPEAKER_00: We know what's inside of us.
- 17:11SPEAKER_00: So we pray.
- 17:12SPEAKER_00: Give to us an understanding mind.
- 17:14SPEAKER_00: I know what I can do, give to us an understanding mind.
- 17:17SPEAKER_00: I know what I'm capable of.
- 17:19SPEAKER_00: Left to my own instincts, I know what I'll do.
- 17:22SPEAKER_00: Give to us an understanding mind.
- 17:27SPEAKER_00: Solomon's kind of complicated in this, you know.
- 17:30SPEAKER_00: Uh duplicitous, I think would be the word I'd want to use.
- 17:35SPEAKER_00: Um, what's fascinating to me, in addition to Solomon's complexity, the way he starts the prayer.
- 17:45SPEAKER_00: God said, Ask what I should give you.
- 17:46SPEAKER_00: And Solomon said, You've shown great and steadfast love to your servant, my father David.
- 17:51SPEAKER_00: And he goes on to pray, you have kept this great and steadfast love.
- 17:56SPEAKER_00: God kept steadfast love for Solomon.
- 17:59SPEAKER_00: He keeps he kept it, he protected it, he cherished it, he preserved it, he took care of it.
- 18:07SPEAKER_00: God kept this actually, there's an echo of Psalm 121.
- 18:10SPEAKER_00: If you if you're paying attention, you know, I lift up my eyes to the hills from where does my He went to the high places, you know.
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: The Psalm, He will keep you, He will keep you from all evil, He'll keep your life, He'll keep your going, He kept His steadfast love.
- 18:23SPEAKER_00: This is like an embodied version of the Psalm the prayer prayed.
- 18:27SPEAKER_00: God kept his steadfast love, he protected it, he cherished it.
- 18:31SPEAKER_00: There's also significant covenant language in 1 Kings 3.
- 18:38SPEAKER_00: Solomon is praying.
- 18:39SPEAKER_00: It's almost like he's giving, like he's telling God what God has been promising.
- 18:45SPEAKER_00: So you're kind of, you owe it to us in a way.
- 18:48SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you want to be really cynical about it.
- 18:52SPEAKER_00: He said, You've put your servant in the midst of this people whom you have chosen.
- 18:56SPEAKER_00: That's covenant language.
- 18:58SPEAKER_00: A great people, so numerous they can't be numbered or counted.
- 19:01SPEAKER_00: Remember that moment when God takes out Abram out under the night sky and says, See the stars, they can't be numbered or counted, so shall your descendants be.
- 19:08SPEAKER_00: This is a covenant story.
- 19:10SPEAKER_00: God is keeping his steadfast love, not just because he feels particularly fondly for Solomon, but to protect, cherish the covenant.
- 19:19SPEAKER_00: God shows up to Abram and says, I'll be your God, you'll be my people, through you we're gonna bless the whole world.
- 19:24SPEAKER_00: Of course, he's gonna keep his steadfast love for Solomon because he's got the blessing of the whole world on the line.
- 19:30SPEAKER_00: He keeps his steadfast love until finally the covenant is fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
- 19:35SPEAKER_00: Christ who takes on the duplicity, takes it on himself, takes it with him to the cross, and while he's dying, says, forgive.
- 19:41SPEAKER_00: He goes to the grave to defeat sin and death and rises up in resurrection.
- 19:45SPEAKER_00: Of course, he's gonna keep his steadfast love to bless the world until that great day when finally people from every language and tribe and nation all worship the Lamb, and every tongue confesses, and every knee bends to announce Jesus Christ as Lord.
- 19:59SPEAKER_00: Of course, he's gonna keep his great and steadfast love for Solomon.
- 20:03SPEAKER_00: Too much is on the line.
- 20:06SPEAKER_00: Too much is on the line.
- 20:11SPEAKER_00: Solomon's duplicity meets God's laser beam commitment to save, to redeem, to restore in Jesus Christ.
- 20:30SPEAKER_00: So of course we're gonna pray, give to us an understanding mind, to follow the Jesus way in a complicated world.
- 20:36SPEAKER_00: Of course we're gonna pray, give to us an understanding mind, to carry the heart of Christ out into a broken world.
- 20:43SPEAKER_00: Of course we're gonna pray, give to us an understanding mind.
- 20:48SPEAKER_00: To live the Jesus life in a world obsessed with heroes and celebrity and power and prestige.
- 21:00SPEAKER_00: So give to us an understanding mind, are you with me?
- 21:06SPEAKER_00: Actually, the prayer, the understanding mind, you know, might make you think make us smarter.
- 21:14SPEAKER_00: You know, like if only we had more information.
- 21:22SPEAKER_00: I'm just gonna let that sit there for a second.
- 21:25SPEAKER_00: If only we had access to more information, then maybe we'd be wise.
- 21:33SPEAKER_00: How's that going?
- 21:37SPEAKER_00: Understanding mind, you could translate it different in just to prove that I can still read Hebrew.
- 21:42SPEAKER_00: Lave Shama.
- 21:44SPEAKER_00: Does that clear it up?
- 21:46SPEAKER_00: Lave, meaning heart.
- 21:48SPEAKER_00: Not kind of like instead of the intellect, but like the wholeness of a being, like love, like like where all of the uh faculties come together toward love.
- 22:01SPEAKER_00: So, like in other words, like what does love look like?
- 22:04SPEAKER_00: What does love look like in this wild world on an election week?
- 22:08SPEAKER_00: There you go.
- 22:09SPEAKER_00: What does love look like?
- 22:12SPEAKER_00: Amidst all the voices and all the noise and all the spin, the spin, the spinning and the overspin and the hyper-reactivity.
- 22:18SPEAKER_00: What does love look like?
- 22:19SPEAKER_00: Lave, shama, shama.
- 22:22SPEAKER_00: Maybe it sounds like the word Shema, the first and foremost creed of the Jewish tradition.
- 22:29SPEAKER_00: Shema Israel, hear, O Israel, listen, O Israel, obey, O Lave, Shama, a listening heart.
- 22:38SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's what love looks like.
- 22:41SPEAKER_00: Maybe in a hyper-reactive, obsessive, compulsive world, a listening heart shows up in wisdom, as wisdom.
- 22:54SPEAKER_00: I think we could probably use a few more listening hearts.
- 22:59SPEAKER_00: God attentive heart for people present heart.
- 23:09SPEAKER_00: That's why there's like a hundred and fifteen boxes in the Narthex for the great Thanksgiving feast.
- 23:17SPEAKER_00: A group of people, God attentive, to be people present.
- 23:25SPEAKER_00: He kept his great and steadfast love for Solomon in order to continue the story of salvation until finally all people drink plenty of fresh water.
- 23:36SPEAKER_00: Until everyone has a bed to sleep in and a meal to eat.
- 23:41SPEAKER_00: Lave Shammah, God attentive heart for people, present heart.
- 23:48SPEAKER_00: So I'm handing out Smart's last night.
- 23:51SPEAKER_00: Guy to the north of me, he's got the hot dogs.
- 23:57SPEAKER_00: It's just not fair.
- 24:00SPEAKER_00: Guy to the south of me literally is handing out pulled pork sandwiches.
- 24:05SPEAKER_00: Did you did you yeah?
- 24:06SPEAKER_00: They were good.
- 24:08SPEAKER_00: Chips.
- 24:09SPEAKER_00: And they come to our house and they're like, Smarty.
- 24:16SPEAKER_00: A smarty?
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: You gave me a smarty.
- 24:20SPEAKER_00: The Holland, it was a great night, so much fun, all kinds of people walking up and around the night.
- 24:24SPEAKER_00: It's an introvert's nightmare.
- 24:26SPEAKER_00: Like I started handing out candy at 6.
- 24:29SPEAKER_00: I was done at 6.03.
- 24:32SPEAKER_00: I went inside.
- 24:34SPEAKER_00: Holland is a great job.
- 24:36SPEAKER_00: You know, they set the set the parameters six to eight, and people basically abide by it.
- 24:40SPEAKER_00: So about eight o'clock, we're kind of picking everything up, putting it all away.
- 24:46SPEAKER_00: So I'm not talking to my neighbor, like the guy, the pulled pork neighbor.
- 24:49SPEAKER_00: Like, no way, man.
- 24:50SPEAKER_00: That's that's unfair.
- 24:51SPEAKER_00: It's not right.
- 24:53SPEAKER_00: Kristen is she's she's nice, she's better than me.
- 24:57SPEAKER_00: So she she goes over to the pulled pork neighbor and she's like, I was so cool.
- 25:01SPEAKER_00: That was that was amazing.
- 25:04SPEAKER_00: I'm like, and here's what he said.
- 25:06SPEAKER_00: This I wasn't there, so I can't verify it, but here's what she said, he said.
- 25:11SPEAKER_00: Twenty-five people said, This is the first meal I've had today.
- 25:21SPEAKER_00: Wait, what?
- 25:27SPEAKER_00: What does love look like?
- 25:30SPEAKER_00: What does love look like?
- 25:31SPEAKER_00: Lave shamma.
- 25:36SPEAKER_00: God, attentive heart for a people present heart.
- 25:42SPEAKER_00: That's what love looks like.
- 25:44SPEAKER_00: Wisdom.
- 25:46SPEAKER_00: We are in desperate need.
- 25:49SPEAKER_00: Amen.
- 25:50SPEAKER_00: In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
- 25:54SPEAKER_00: Amen.