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NFL REPORT: Two Legendary Head Coaches Bill Belichick & Pete Carroll will not return to the Patriots & Seahawks in 2024. · NFL Game Previews

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Speaker 1: The family.
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Speaker 2: My name is Jeremiah whos and Pollymore linebacker which Steves
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Speaker 2: and Browns and this the NFL Report.
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Speaker 3: Welcome into a playoff edition of the NFL Report. J
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Speaker 3: Okays in the postseason, Steve White, James Palmer. But for
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Speaker 3: some reason, Steve, we're not talking about these games a
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Speaker 3: whole lot, because there's a boatload of news in the
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Speaker 3: NFL with all of these coaches that we've seen in
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Speaker 3: their spots forever no longer coaching the respective teams. We'll
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Speaker 3: get to Bill Belichick, We'll get to Pete Carroll. We'll
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Speaker 3: also have three monster guests on this show. Dave Canals,
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Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, is brilliant
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Speaker 3: on this show. He is a head coaching candidate already
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Speaker 3: after one year being an offensive coordinator. We also have
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Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel, who's gonna be on the couch this week
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Speaker 3: just like all of us watching Super wild Card weekend
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Speaker 3: because he has a buye in the first round. And
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Speaker 3: then we also have Andre Read, the Hall of Fame
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Speaker 3: wide receiver for the Buffalo Bills, one of the best
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Speaker 3: to ever do it. What does he think about Josh
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Speaker 3: Allen in the postseason. This show is loaded, Steve.
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Speaker 4: Jap We are so so stacked with the show, and
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Speaker 4: like you said, we'd love to talk a lot of
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Speaker 4: wildcard football. But the big news, the big news is
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Speaker 4: the goat in New England. Bill Belichick and the Patriots
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Speaker 4: have officially parted ways.
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Speaker 5: Robert and I after you know, a series of discussions,
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Speaker 5: have usually agreed to part ways. And for me, this
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Speaker 5: is a day of you know, gratitude and celebration. Start
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Speaker 5: with Robert and his family. It's great, so much. Thanks
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Speaker 5: for the opportunity to be that coach here for twenty
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Speaker 5: four years. It's an amazing opportunity received from out of support.
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Speaker 5: We had a vision of you know, Billy and winner
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Speaker 5: billing championship football team here and that's exceeded, exceeded my
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Speaker 5: wildest dream and expectations, the amount of success that we
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Speaker 5: were able to achieve together. Always to be a Patriot,
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Speaker 5: I look forward to coming back here, but at this time, uh,
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Speaker 5: you know, we're gonna we're gonna move on, and I
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Speaker 5: look forward excited for the future.
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Speaker 4: It with former Patriots head coach Bill Belichick at the
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Speaker 4: news conference announcing that he is no longer with the
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Speaker 4: Patriots and JP. As we found out later from owner
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Speaker 4: Robert Kraft, he is not asking for any type of
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Speaker 4: trade compensation from any team that wants to hire Bill Belichick.
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Speaker 4: He is a free agent, just like Tom Brady was.
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Speaker 4: Go ahead, go about your way. Thanks for all of
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Speaker 4: the great things that you've done. And first off, you
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Speaker 4: know this was handled with dignity and just the perfect
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Speaker 4: tone as we expected, and Robert Craft made everyone know
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Speaker 4: that this was an amicable decision, that there's no hostility there.
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Speaker 4: So j B, let's let's push things forward. First off,
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Speaker 4: with Bill Belichick. I mean, you think, with all of
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Speaker 4: his accomplishments, he'd be at the front of the line
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Speaker 4: for every team, but we know that's not necessarily the case.
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Speaker 4: Ben Jonson, the OC for the Lions, you talk to people,
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Speaker 4: is the number one hot coaching candidate. But some of
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Speaker 4: the teams JAP that we're hearing that may pursue Bill Belichick.
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Speaker 4: The Carolina Panthers may take a swing. The Dallas Cowboys
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Speaker 4: are out there, the Chargers, But the one team universally
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Speaker 4: when you talk to people is the Atlanta Falcons.
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Speaker 3: James, Yeah, I'm not sure how many people you've heard
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Speaker 3: it from Steve. I've probably heard it from I don't
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Speaker 3: know a half a dozen around the league that this
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Speaker 3: is one that the Falcons have been doing their work
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Speaker 3: for a few weeks on Bill Belichick.
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Speaker 6: Now, what we're all curious about Steve is what.
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Speaker 3: Type of group wherever he goes is Bill Belichick going
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Speaker 3: to bring with him? Now, I will say this, at
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Speaker 3: seventy two years old, recently had a production meeting with
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Speaker 3: him and Rich Eyes and Kurt Warner and I were
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Speaker 3: calling the game on Christmas Eve between the Patriots and
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Speaker 3: the Broncos. I'll tell you this, this is a guy
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Speaker 3: that still has an unbelievable passion for coaching. Kurt Warner
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Speaker 3: asked him in the production meeting, Steve, what do you
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Speaker 3: still love about coaching? He said, everything from the day
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Speaker 3: to day film work, from the scheming, from every aspect
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Speaker 3: of it. He is still dialed in like you wouldn't believe.
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Speaker 3: And you saw that from the players the way they
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Speaker 3: played for him in New England. So where does he
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Speaker 3: take that? Who does he take it with? When you
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Speaker 3: look at Atlanta, that's probably the spot right now if
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Speaker 3: you looked at it. He needs what to get the
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Speaker 3: all time record fifteen wins if you include the postseason,
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Speaker 3: that's probably the spot where he can get those fifteen wins.
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Speaker 3: The soonest with the roster that's in place, a defense
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Speaker 3: that was very good this past season. There's an offense
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Speaker 3: that's almost kind of put together in the y Bill
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Speaker 3: Belichick was trying to put together an offense in New
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Speaker 3: England the last couple years, Steve. They're physical, they run
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Speaker 3: the ball, they have a decent offensive line. They just
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Speaker 3: don't have a quarterback. Now they have the eighth pick,
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Speaker 3: they have cap space. What's your thought on who comes
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Speaker 3: with him? That's the conversation that I think we need
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Speaker 3: to be having. Is it Josh McDaniels, Is it you
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Speaker 3: know Matt Patricia, who that he's used to being around.
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Speaker 3: Does he have to talk to Arthur Blank and say
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Speaker 3: I'm coming, but I'm also coming with these guys as well?
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Speaker 6: Is that a potential issue?
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Speaker 4: Look, if Arthur Blank is gonna take the swing for
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Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, he's gonna let him bring whoever he wants. Now,
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Speaker 4: who wants to stay in New England? Okay, you know
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Speaker 4: we know that, Mike Vrabel, Could you know the Tennessee
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Speaker 4: Titans coach who's let go could be you know, could
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Speaker 4: go to New England, Gerd Mayo, who's there. Maybe he
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Speaker 4: keeps some people, but Josh McDaniels very much is in
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Speaker 4: play here to be you know, the offensive coordinator or
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Speaker 4: some type of assistant. I have heard that from several people.
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Speaker 4: Matt Patricia, we'll see. You would expect that he would
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Speaker 4: bring his sons, including Stephen who was a defensive coordinator
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Speaker 4: of sorts up in New England, but then also bring
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Speaker 4: in some other people. And let's not forget Terry Fonto,
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Speaker 4: the falcony general manager is still employed. But somebody who
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Speaker 4: could be pushed out of the door if Belichick does
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Speaker 4: come in, or put in some other type of role
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Speaker 4: in the front office where his power is marginalized. But
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Speaker 4: again you mentioned it, James, the roster is built just
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Speaker 4: like how Bill Belichick wants it. And which interesting today
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Speaker 4: is the Falcons on their social media website also showed
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Speaker 4: the construction of their already fantastic facility of a brand
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Speaker 4: new weight room, brand new cafeteria and all these other
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Speaker 4: amenities that they're adding again to one of the best
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Speaker 4: facilities in the NFL. Well, j P. Bill Belichick, He's
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Speaker 4: going to continue coaching but another one of the great
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Speaker 4: coaches in the NFL he's done, and that is Pete
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Speaker 4: Carolyn Seattle, and he is going upstairs. Let's hear from Pete.
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Speaker 7: This isn't about me being the head coach. It's about
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Speaker 7: this organization being successful and being on course for the
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Speaker 7: long haul of it as well. And I realized that,
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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not as well as you can get
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Speaker 7: in this business. And there's coming a time they got
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Speaker 7: to make some decisions, and so moving towards the future,
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Speaker 7: if there's some way that I can add something to
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Speaker 7: them down road, we'll see what happens.
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Speaker 3: You know, this is a really interesting one, Steve, because
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Speaker 3: we've seen some people move upstairs before. We saw it
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Speaker 3: happened with Bruce Arians in Tampa, and you saw who
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Speaker 3: take over somebody that is connected to bea in Todd Bowle,
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Speaker 3: somebody that he was stumping for to get that head
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Speaker 3: coaching position. Now, Pete Carroll says he's going to let
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Speaker 3: general manager John Schneider make this decision. He is not
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Speaker 3: going to be involved in making this accept making this decision.
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Speaker 3: But what I'm looking at is do you go or
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Speaker 3: are you forced to look at somebody that maybe has
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Speaker 3: a similar philosophy. Because Pete's still in the building, that
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Speaker 3: looks at dan Quinn, who's coach under him before you
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Speaker 3: have Dave Canalis. We mentioned him at the top of
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Speaker 3: the show Tampa Bay just now and he's going to
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Speaker 3: be joining the show, and we should say, you want
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Speaker 3: to hear about his offensive philosophy coming up in the show,
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Speaker 3: But we did speak to him prior to the news
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Speaker 3: with Pete Carroll, so we didn't get a chance to ask.
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Speaker 6: Him about it.
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Speaker 3: Or do you go completely to the other side, Steve,
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Speaker 3: where you find a complete different philosophy that Pete Carroll
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Speaker 3: has been preaching the opposite of it in a sense,
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Speaker 3: I want to see what kind of net they're putting
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Speaker 3: out there. In terms of their candidates. Dan Quinn looks
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Speaker 3: like one that should definitely be at the top of
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Speaker 3: the list. He's at the top of a lot of
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Speaker 3: people's list that they want to talk to him. But
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Speaker 3: his ties to Seattle that seems like one that we're
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Speaker 3: all going to be looking at very quickly.
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Speaker 4: Everything you hear from people is dan Quinn. It's his
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Speaker 4: job to lose. Now they're good, they have to cast
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Speaker 4: a widening. Remember that every team has to adhere to
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Speaker 4: the Rooney Rule, which says you must speak to two
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Speaker 4: minority candidates from outside of your organization.
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Speaker 6: So they're gonna speak to a lot of people.
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Speaker 4: But I think the two folks who are at the
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Speaker 4: top of the list right now are Dan Quinn, the
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Speaker 4: Cowboys defensive coordinator, who has strong ties to that building,
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Speaker 4: and Dave Canalis, who again we've mentioned we continue to
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Speaker 4: mention he was the OC there last year. He worked
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Speaker 4: as the quarterback coach with Russell Wilson and Gino Smith
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Speaker 4: were there, and he's been with Pete Carroll since Pete
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Speaker 4: was at USC. And if Pete Carroll is in the building,
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Speaker 4: whether it's an advisory role like we saw Bruce arians
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Speaker 4: do in Tampa Bay, or in a more kind of
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Speaker 4: czar role like we saw Tom Coughlin do after he
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Speaker 4: left the Giants and oh yeah, back to the Jaguars,
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Speaker 4: they're probably going to stay in line in that kind
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Speaker 4: of Seattle connected family. With all I'm thinking other coaches
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Speaker 4: like Gus Bradley who's now the DC and Indy those
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Speaker 4: are people who are there. But it's again, this is
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Speaker 4: another team that's got to go get a quarterback. They've
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Speaker 4: they've got to evolve that way, and they've got to
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Speaker 4: fix things on defense. So it's going to be very
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Speaker 4: intriguing to see because I think both of these organizations,
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Speaker 4: the Patriots as well, everything is pointing to them kind
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Speaker 4: of staying within the family as well. And it's just
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Speaker 4: intriguing to me. How you know, you want to break
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Speaker 4: from the grandpa or their old dad from the family
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Speaker 4: in both cases and then bring up junior to inherit
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Speaker 4: or to take over and run the business, but the
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Speaker 4: same touches with his own style. JP.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the fascinating part of this.
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Speaker 3: And if you want to know more about the potential
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Speaker 3: top guys in New England, Girod Mayo and Mike Rabel
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Speaker 3: in the family. As Steve just said, listen to our
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Speaker 3: last episode or watch our last episode on YouTube. Phil
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Speaker 3: Perry from NBC Sports Boston breaks it down brilliantly about
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Speaker 3: how those guys are in the family, but they'd also
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Speaker 3: do it entirely their own way and it would be different.
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Speaker 3: The part that I want to break down, Steve is
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Speaker 3: they were just on the precipice of making the postseason
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Speaker 3: in Seattle. If they would have made the postseason, I
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Speaker 3: don't know if that would have changed their things in
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Speaker 3: this process at all. So what's your thought real quick
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Speaker 3: on is this just because it was time with Pete
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Speaker 3: or in this hiring cycle, perhaps they have their eye
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Speaker 3: on a candidate or two that are available now and
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Speaker 3: that's why they wanted to make sure they pulled the trigger.
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Speaker 4: A great question, and I think it's a combination of both,
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Speaker 4: because we know Dan Quinn is arguably, other than Ben Jonson,
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Speaker 4: the hottest candidate. Other teams are coming after him, but
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Speaker 4: this is one that I personally know he would love
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Speaker 4: to be a He loves that organization, so they might
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Speaker 4: say this might be our chance to get him and
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Speaker 4: to continue with that energy that Pete's built, but build
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Speaker 4: up to the next level. Here's a real quick one too.
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Speaker 4: I want to go back to Bill Belichick. One of
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Speaker 4: the teams we did not talk about with him is
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Speaker 4: the LA Chargers, and it wouldn't it be interesting JP,
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Speaker 4: And I'm throwing this out there before we go to break.
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Speaker 4: If he were to come to the Chargers and you
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Speaker 4: have a division with Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, Sean Payton,
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Speaker 4: and either Antonio Pierce or Jim Harball. Now that would
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Speaker 4: be something spectacular not gonna.
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Speaker 3: Have that is a division. And the one name we
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Speaker 3: haven't broken down a whole bunch is Mike Rabel Steve.
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Speaker 3: He's one of the top candidates out there, not just
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Speaker 3: in New England, in other places. Remember he's one of
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Speaker 3: the top coaches, still in his forties, though still a
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Speaker 3: younger guy after parting ways with the Tennessee Titans. And
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Speaker 3: speaking of younger guys, Deebo Stanley who still got a
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Speaker 3: lot of juice left in those legs Steve, and he
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Speaker 3: gets a week to kind of rest him before the
11:41
Speaker 3: forty nine ers get into the playoff mix with the
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Speaker 3: number one seed in the NFC, Deebo Samuel joins the
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Speaker 3: show next.
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Speaker 8: Did see Mitchell now way, but it's an and your
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Speaker 8: Toadebo Samuel coming right, turns the corner and.
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Speaker 4: Goes into the NDS up touchdom.
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Speaker 8: Sad Francisco Pardy blocks lap now middle trolls Cott broke
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Speaker 8: a tackle by Deebo Samuel. Watch my first top thirty
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Speaker 8: twenty fifty ten FI touchdown.
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Speaker 4: Sad Francisco r JP. We are continuing this huge show
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Speaker 4: today as we are joined by Deebo Samuel, the wide
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Speaker 4: receiver mister do everything for the forty nine ers. Deebo,
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Speaker 4: It's up man.
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Speaker 9: How you doing man? How you doing good?
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Speaker 4: Hey, we're we are excited about this. Look, we know
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Speaker 4: you guys have to have the buy this week, but
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Speaker 4: you've been here before, all right. What about this team
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Speaker 4: and the way you finished the season makes you feel
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Speaker 4: that you are ready to make that special run this postseason?
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Speaker 10: Man, I can write a blue about his answer, but uh,
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Speaker 10: you know, I mean, it's just it's just the the
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Speaker 10: It's just the mentality of the team and how much
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Speaker 10: love everybody have for each other. And you know a
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Speaker 10: lot of people have been here since I've been here,
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Speaker 10: and you know, we always been at the end of
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Speaker 10: the tunnel. But now at the end of the tunnel
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Speaker 10: that makes sense for us, you know, making it to
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Speaker 10: the Super Bowl, losing the Super Bowl, and making it to.
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Speaker 9: The NFC Championship and losing the NFC Championship.
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Speaker 10: So I feel like there's a there's a bigger picture now,
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Speaker 10: and there's a different mentality for us, you know, going
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Speaker 10: into this playoffs and knowing what it takes to get there,
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Speaker 10: and you know, we got all the people that we
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Speaker 10: need here and we get a lot of guys back,
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Speaker 10: and I think, you know, here's a big opportunity for
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Speaker 10: us to go and do it.
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Speaker 6: People.
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Speaker 3: We had telling no One who funk on this show
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Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season, and we were talking
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Speaker 3: to him exactly what you were just kind of saying there.
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Speaker 3: At the beginning of the year, you guys had a
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Speaker 3: look that maybe nobody else in the NFL kind of
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Speaker 3: had in the way you were beating teams. Then you
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Speaker 3: had that three game losing stream you didn't play, Trent
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Speaker 3: was out, and then the way you guys finished the season,
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Speaker 3: it seems like you almost got that same look or
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Speaker 3: feel that you guys had at the beginning of the
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Speaker 3: year back at the end of the year.
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Speaker 6: And I'm curious how much.
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Speaker 1: Of that is.
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Speaker 3: What when you're on the field and with when Trent's
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Speaker 3: on the field changes the way the vibe of everything
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Speaker 3: really is.
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Speaker 9: I don't know. I wouldn't say it too much. I
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Speaker 9: wouldn't say it changed too much of the vibe.
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Speaker 10: I just feel like once you got everybody that's a
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Speaker 10: part of the team and everybody together as one, I
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Speaker 10: feel like your team is just overall better. I feel
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Speaker 10: like if you're missing a guy here you're missing a
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Speaker 10: guy on defense or special teams, it's gonna kind of
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Speaker 10: look a little different, you know, but everything still go
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Speaker 10: the same. But it is good to help all hands
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Speaker 10: on Dick at all times. And you see how good
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Speaker 10: we is what we have.
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Speaker 6: Everybody speaking of Trent Williams.
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Speaker 4: Okay, we know you and him come out with the
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Speaker 4: box and you guys kind of lead things this way.
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Speaker 4: But we know all the superstars you guys have on
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Speaker 4: your team. We know Trent's considered one of the most dominant,
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Speaker 4: if not the most dominant offensive tackle. But is there
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Speaker 4: anything that's happened in a game or in a film
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Speaker 4: set where you all sit there where you're like, Trent
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Speaker 4: is like like next level special, like next level good.
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Speaker 6: I seen it.
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Speaker 9: Uh, It's crazy because I go back to kobd year
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Speaker 9: with this answer, like.
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Speaker 10: We had to move out of out of San Jose
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Speaker 10: or whatever and move to Arizona, and me and Trent
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Speaker 10: had an airbnb down there at the time, and I
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Speaker 10: was just, you know, just be chilling walking around the
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Speaker 10: house playing the game or whatever, and I see Trent
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Speaker 10: and there, like watching film twenty first seven. So I
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Speaker 10: came in there one day and I'm just like, bro,
15:33
Speaker 10: let me just see what you're watching. You know what
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Speaker 10: I'm saying, And he's literally watching himself and the things
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Speaker 10: that he do and how he attacked people. And know
15:41
Speaker 10: literally every move that a person is going to do
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Speaker 10: is just crazy to me. And it just transfer over
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Speaker 10: to the field. You can see the way you know,
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Speaker 10: he practiced on Thursdays and it's just carry over to
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Speaker 10: the game on Sunday.
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Speaker 6: He's unique, Debo, You're unique as well.
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Speaker 3: You told I was listening to you told our good
15:57
Speaker 3: friend k Adams said that Kyle helps you out get
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Speaker 3: them those couple of rushing yards you needed in Week
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Speaker 3: eight teams to become just the second player in NFL
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Speaker 3: history to have four thousand receiving yards one thousand rushing
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Speaker 3: yards in your first five years. I know stats are
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Speaker 3: one thing, championships are another. But your unique ability, how
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Speaker 3: much do you kind of take pride in your ability
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Speaker 3: to hurt defenses in a variety of ways.
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Speaker 10: I take pride and still being able to play this game,
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Speaker 10: but I love to play for one. But I mean
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Speaker 10: it's just my mentality is no, I'm a selfless player
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Speaker 10: and I'm gonna do whatever it takes for this team
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Speaker 10: to get where they want to be and whatever it
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Speaker 10: takes that cow asks me to do, whether it's you know,
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Speaker 10: go kick return or be a running back here and
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Speaker 10: get in a line over right beside trend and kind
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Speaker 10: of pinning the defense in and it's just.
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Speaker 9: Whatever it is, And it's just the mentality of this team.
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Speaker 9: And it's not just me.
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Speaker 10: It goes from you know, Brox to quarterbacks, so he's
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Speaker 10: not doing no blocking, but it kind of go on
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Speaker 10: down from Christian McCaffrey to all the wine out the
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Speaker 10: tight ends to the old line. It's just like the
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Speaker 10: way that we go out here and go about it
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Speaker 10: have been, Like you can just tell it's just one
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Speaker 10: big group that love the game played football.
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Speaker 4: Brock's not doing any blocking, but he's making it happen. Hey, deeb,
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Speaker 4: But when I look at this, you guys throw the
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Speaker 4: ball less than any team in the NFL, yet you
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Speaker 4: have four players, including yourself, with sixty or more catches.
17:18
Speaker 4: What is it that makes it work so efficiently? Like
17:21
Speaker 4: when you do throw it, guys get their hands on
17:24
Speaker 4: the ball and make something happen. And I don't want
17:26
Speaker 4: to hear the stuff that it's just all Deak and
17:28
Speaker 4: dunk passes because you guys do stretch the ball down
17:30
Speaker 4: the field as well.
17:30
Speaker 10: Yeah, we chucked it down the field now, I mean
17:36
Speaker 10: it's just crazy. I didn't know that until you said it,
17:39
Speaker 10: but I mean you just go down the line and
17:41
Speaker 10: like it's just crazy.
17:43
Speaker 6: Like we have.
17:43
Speaker 9: I think we built the culture well, Kylin, John and Jed, the.
17:47
Speaker 10: Guys up top built the culture here of guys that
17:50
Speaker 10: you know that's really good with the ball in their hands.
17:51
Speaker 10: And you know, it's just amazing to have four guys
17:55
Speaker 10: on offense with a thousand plus scrimmage yards and it
17:57
Speaker 10: just shows, you know, the capability and like, this guy's
18:00
Speaker 10: the limit for this team right now.
18:01
Speaker 6: Offense.
18:02
Speaker 4: So we have we have some breaking news. We're recording
18:05
Speaker 4: this on a Wednesday, but Pete Carroll is out as
18:10
Speaker 4: the head coach in Seattle. I am not joking. This
18:14
Speaker 4: is a real right Before I go, yeah, I mean,
18:17
Speaker 4: what are your thoughts on that? Because that's some dude
18:19
Speaker 4: in his team that you competed against for quite some time.
18:22
Speaker 10: Man, I tell you, since I've been in this league,
18:24
Speaker 10: that man has done an out standing job over there
18:26
Speaker 10: in Seattle. For sure, everybody probably will we will probably
18:30
Speaker 10: remember him as the coach that you've.
18:32
Speaker 9: Gone all the time.
18:32
Speaker 10: But overall, like, man, the man done the house standing
18:35
Speaker 10: job over there in Seattle since I've been.
18:37
Speaker 4: In the league.
18:37
Speaker 10: And you know, we love to play him, and you know,
18:41
Speaker 10: I think he's a great coach. Don't know him too
18:43
Speaker 10: much because you know, I'm not over there and whatnot.
18:45
Speaker 10: But you know, man, I think he's done a great
18:46
Speaker 10: job since he's been there.
18:48
Speaker 6: Yeah, he really has.
18:49
Speaker 3: He's I hope I'm that youthful debo when I'm Pete's age.
18:53
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy still got the gloves on catching passes,
18:55
Speaker 3: pre game, running around the field. It's been a broke
18:58
Speaker 3: joy to watch him coach in Seattle. What I'd ask
19:00
Speaker 3: you is this week, what what do you and teammates
19:03
Speaker 3: do with a buye what what what do you want
19:06
Speaker 3: to accomplish essentially with this week you have before you
19:09
Speaker 3: get back playing again.
19:11
Speaker 10: We don't consider this is a bye week, man, This
19:13
Speaker 10: is a week of preparation without a game.
19:16
Speaker 9: And so like today, we was in as a whole.
19:18
Speaker 10: You know, we got to work out in and tomorrow
19:21
Speaker 10: we got practice, and Friday we got practiced, and yesterday
19:24
Speaker 10: we came in and watched the film from the Rams game,
19:26
Speaker 10: so we don't look at this as like too much
19:28
Speaker 10: of a bye week. But you know, it is about
19:30
Speaker 10: week because we've earned it. But at the end of
19:32
Speaker 10: the day, we're still preparing as a team, even though
19:34
Speaker 10: we don't know who we're preparing for. We just got
19:36
Speaker 10: to be ready for anything, and this is what we've
19:39
Speaker 10: been doing all week long.
19:40
Speaker 4: Well, deep, I know all you guys're getting your bodies
19:42
Speaker 4: right too. And one of the things you're doing to
19:44
Speaker 4: help get your body right, Chure Bundy, like the great
19:48
Speaker 4: supplemental drink that you're helping endors.
19:51
Speaker 6: What can you tell us about your a Bundy.
19:53
Speaker 9: Man, it's amazing with recovery and sleep. And you know,
19:56
Speaker 9: one of the main things in this league as far
19:59
Speaker 9: as recovery is.
20:00
Speaker 10: You know, sleep and then play a main role and
20:01
Speaker 10: a main part and the way you play and the
20:04
Speaker 10: way you prepare also is a great recovery drink whenever
20:07
Speaker 10: you you know, it's good for the information and all
20:09
Speaker 10: those types of things.
20:10
Speaker 9: So it's just something I do weekend and week out
20:12
Speaker 9: to make sure I'm on top of my game.
20:15
Speaker 4: All right, Well, Deebo, Hey, we appreciate you. We know
20:17
Speaker 4: you guys are prepping to make this big wrong. We
20:19
Speaker 4: cannot wait to watch you play. Just thanks so much
20:21
Speaker 4: for taking some time for joining James and out here
20:23
Speaker 4: on the NFL Report.
20:25
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me.
20:26
Speaker 11: Man.
20:27
Speaker 3: How phenomenal is that Pebo Samuel? But coming up, we
20:30
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20:32
Speaker 3: young minds in the NFL is already getting a head
20:35
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20:38
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Speaker 3: you and Steve. We are joined by the offensive coordinator
21:33
Speaker 3: of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Dave Canalis, who is in
21:37
Speaker 3: the postseason. Dave, I have to start off with this,
21:40
Speaker 3: thank you for joining us. I know you don't need
21:42
Speaker 3: any added energy, you already bring enough. But what's the
21:46
Speaker 3: juice like that? We're preparing for postseason football right now?
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Speaker 11: Man, A lot of excitement around here, you know. Fortunately,
21:53
Speaker 11: I come from a place who has seen the postseason
21:56
Speaker 11: quite a bit walk into another place four straight seasons
21:59
Speaker 11: going to the postseason, three straight NFC South championships, So
22:04
Speaker 11: there's a buzz around the building. This feels very familiar
22:07
Speaker 11: to a lot of guys. So for us, you know,
22:10
Speaker 11: it's just about having that one to no mentality. And
22:13
Speaker 11: as you know, we've been playing playoff football for over
22:15
Speaker 11: a month now, trying to keep our postseason live.
22:19
Speaker 4: So Dan, as you mentioned, you come from a place
22:20
Speaker 4: that would be Seattle for those who don't know, we
22:24
Speaker 4: spent a long time. But I want to take it
22:26
Speaker 4: to the Buccaneers, because you know, you're in a situation
22:29
Speaker 4: where you know, you came in and you got this
22:31
Speaker 4: offense going, and people didn't think it was going to
22:33
Speaker 4: be able to get rolling like this. You've got this
22:35
Speaker 4: run game going. But your quarterback, Baker Mayfield. He is
22:40
Speaker 4: the only other quarterback besides Tom Brady to throw for
22:43
Speaker 4: more than four thousand yards, to have twenty five plus
22:45
Speaker 4: touchdowns and fewer than ten interceptions. What can you say
22:49
Speaker 4: about his resurgence and honestly his toughness because what he
22:54
Speaker 4: played through in Week eighteen was it was amazing watching
22:58
Speaker 4: him grit through that game.
23:01
Speaker 11: I can't say enough about Baker. Just the opportunity, you know,
23:05
Speaker 11: to be able to work with the guy with so
23:06
Speaker 11: much experience, you know, thrown into the fire right away,
23:09
Speaker 11: first overall pick. But for him to just continue to
23:12
Speaker 11: believe in himself, to believe in his teammates, build relationships,
23:17
Speaker 11: grow with this offense as we're putting in a new
23:19
Speaker 11: system with new words for everybody involved. But to watch
23:23
Speaker 11: him really, you know, tough it out a bunch of
23:25
Speaker 11: games throughout the season and especially last week, you know,
23:28
Speaker 11: to be there for us to make critical plays when
23:31
Speaker 11: we needed him at the end of the game. I
23:33
Speaker 11: can't say enough about his just mental toughness to overcome,
23:37
Speaker 11: you know, the challenges that he faced physically to be
23:39
Speaker 11: able to be available for us.
23:41
Speaker 6: Yeah, dealing with a rib injury, dealing with an ankle injury.
23:44
Speaker 3: And you describe the way Baker's done it, But Dave,
23:47
Speaker 3: I'm curious how you've done it because we look at
23:48
Speaker 3: the year prior to this and what you guys didn't
23:50
Speaker 3: seeattle with Gino Smith, and then you look at Baker
23:53
Speaker 3: here and these let's just be honest, some people around
23:55
Speaker 3: the league say these are essentially cast offs. What is
23:58
Speaker 3: the process that you when you look at a quarterback
24:01
Speaker 3: you're going to be working with and you go about
24:04
Speaker 3: making sure you put them in a position to succeed.
24:06
Speaker 3: What's your process in that when you examine their game.
24:09
Speaker 11: I think the biggest thing is, even especially when you're
24:12
Speaker 11: introducing a new offense, is is that we do need
24:15
Speaker 11: a starting point and we do need a place to
24:18
Speaker 11: teach words, to teach route stems, depths, different things like that.
24:22
Speaker 11: But as we go, I think it's just really important.
24:25
Speaker 11: It was for Gino, you know, it was for us
24:27
Speaker 11: before that, and now with Bakers, that we become the
24:31
Speaker 11: version of our offense that puts them in the most
24:33
Speaker 11: comfortable and confident place where they can play fast and decisive.
24:37
Speaker 11: And so we've become something that has a Baker Mayfield
24:41
Speaker 11: twist to it, you know. And I think that's the
24:43
Speaker 11: beauty of our system is that we haven't we have
24:46
Speaker 11: enough conference, you know, over the years to kind of
24:49
Speaker 11: evolve into who our people are. You know, it's the media,
24:52
Speaker 11: you factor, it's learning how to throw to Mike, learning
24:54
Speaker 11: how to throw to Chris Godwin, Kate out and how
24:56
Speaker 11: do we use Rashad White out of the backfield, you know,
24:59
Speaker 11: and a bunch of other guys that I hate that
25:01
Speaker 11: I'm not mentioning, but I think it's being able to
25:04
Speaker 11: just kind of swallow your pride and say, hey, I'm
25:05
Speaker 11: not going to live and die on this concept. What
25:08
Speaker 11: is he throwing? And you can always tell by that
25:10
Speaker 11: confidence on that back foot when it goes into the
25:13
Speaker 11: ground firmly and the ball comes out and he rips it.
25:16
Speaker 11: You know, he loves to play. How can we build
25:18
Speaker 11: this play a few more ways for him to be
25:19
Speaker 11: able to execute it?
25:21
Speaker 4: Well? I love hearing that because I mean some of
25:23
Speaker 4: the technicalities and see some of the small nuances as
25:26
Speaker 4: you say this, this is what's gonna work. And you know,
25:30
Speaker 4: with that point you mentioned Rashad White.
25:32
Speaker 6: The running game.
25:33
Speaker 4: This is something that has been a struggle for the
25:34
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the past two seasons. And now
25:38
Speaker 4: you have established the run game that sets up that
25:41
Speaker 4: run action that really opens up your offense. What about
25:45
Speaker 4: the way you've got this offensive line playing again, establishing
25:48
Speaker 4: someone like Rashad White to operate that functionality of the
25:52
Speaker 4: offense that you were just talking about.
25:54
Speaker 11: This is where I get to really pump my staff.
25:56
Speaker 11: Harold Goodwin so everybody knows him as goodie, and Joe Gilbert,
26:00
Speaker 11: He's great. Nobody had nobody had a bigger impact on
26:03
Speaker 11: this season than those two guys. You take Tristan Wurf's
26:06
Speaker 11: put him on another side. You take Luke Gottacky and
26:08
Speaker 11: you move him from guard to tackle. You introduce Cody
26:12
Speaker 11: Mak a rookie to the mix. Robert Hainsey starts his
26:15
Speaker 11: full season. You know, we started out with Filer at
26:17
Speaker 11: the left guard. Stinny comes in after that, Aaron Stinny
26:21
Speaker 11: and those guys just being able to really work with them,
26:24
Speaker 11: improve their technique, get them confident in their ability passing
26:28
Speaker 11: off stunts in the past, protection combling in the run game,
26:32
Speaker 11: and then really becoming a run game that suits us,
26:36
Speaker 11: that suits our body types, our abilities. Not worry about
26:39
Speaker 11: what we can't do, but let's focus on what we
26:42
Speaker 11: can do. You know what does Reshod run so well?
26:45
Speaker 3: You know?
26:45
Speaker 11: And and that was like a full season effort. You know,
26:49
Speaker 11: we really saw it in the second half of the season.
26:51
Speaker 11: You know, we saw our rush per game average go
26:54
Speaker 11: up twenty yards, you know, and in that stretch, you know,
26:56
Speaker 11: we had a bunch of victories. We took some knees
26:58
Speaker 11: and we just battle man and we knew that we
27:01
Speaker 11: were going to have to run the ball, giving the
27:03
Speaker 11: guy's confidence, putting him in formations where we could be
27:06
Speaker 11: aggressive and play fast. And so I really got to
27:09
Speaker 11: give a lot of love. I mean, I got to
27:10
Speaker 11: talk about John Dan Damer tight ends coach as well,
27:12
Speaker 11: because those guys are such versatile tight ends to be
27:15
Speaker 11: able to allow us to do a lot of the
27:16
Speaker 11: stuff that we did.
27:18
Speaker 3: And Dave, that offensive line does a brilliant job. You're
27:20
Speaker 3: describing it in the run game. But obviously everybody loves
27:23
Speaker 3: to throw the football, right, let's have a little fun
27:25
Speaker 3: with it. And Mike Evans, everybody knows the name. I
27:29
Speaker 3: still don't think he gets enough credit for what he
27:31
Speaker 3: does for your offense and offenses he's been in prior.
27:35
Speaker 6: I'm just curious from a play caller and.
27:36
Speaker 3: Play designer standpoint, when you have that skill set on
27:40
Speaker 3: the outside that Mike has, what does that do for you?
27:43
Speaker 6: What advantage does that give you as a play caller.
27:46
Speaker 11: Yeah, it gives you a starting point. And I think
27:48
Speaker 11: that you know, whatever sport it is, whatever you know,
27:53
Speaker 11: position it is, there's something that you got to have
27:55
Speaker 11: a starting point, a focal point of your offense that
27:58
Speaker 11: kind of allows you to try to anticipate what defenses
28:02
Speaker 11: are going to do. You know, whether it's this amazingly
28:04
Speaker 11: powerful run game is a start point. Here come the
28:06
Speaker 11: hard actions. It's Mike Evans, and you know they're going
28:10
Speaker 11: to try to put one or two, sometimes three players
28:13
Speaker 11: to his side. How can we take advantage of the
28:15
Speaker 11: rest of the field, you know, And of course the
28:18
Speaker 11: greatest challenge for us is, like we still got to
28:21
Speaker 11: find a way to get him involved while they're doing this,
28:24
Speaker 11: while they're while they're making efforts way, how can we
28:27
Speaker 11: make the rest of it come to life? The screen game,
28:30
Speaker 11: the run game, the passes to the other side, putting
28:33
Speaker 11: him in different spots in formation. But for me, you know,
28:37
Speaker 11: it allows me to kind of set my mind on
28:39
Speaker 11: here's the starting point. Now can we build from here?
28:43
Speaker 6: Dave?
28:43
Speaker 4: You know the thing we're talking about you've done with
28:45
Speaker 4: this aspense and the and the way so many guys
28:47
Speaker 4: have developed. But it's also happened when you were in
28:50
Speaker 4: Seattle with Russell Wilson, with Gino Smith, and as a
28:53
Speaker 4: result you you've been requested to be, you know, a
28:56
Speaker 4: head coaching candidate. I mean, your name is out there.
29:01
Speaker 4: How are you approaching that part of it knowing that
29:04
Speaker 4: you've done some good things and people are recognizing it
29:07
Speaker 4: just where you might be the next guy who gets
29:10
Speaker 4: a head coaching job.
29:11
Speaker 11: I mean, it's surreal for me. And you know, the
29:15
Speaker 11: first thing I think about is just a lot of
29:16
Speaker 11: the guys that contributed to this, you know, and the
29:19
Speaker 11: rest of the staff members in Seattle that were a
29:22
Speaker 11: part of just kind of developing a system over the
29:25
Speaker 11: years and evolving with the different players that come in
29:27
Speaker 11: and come out. You know, get here to Tampa and
29:30
Speaker 11: just you know, like really trusting our staff to take
29:33
Speaker 11: their rooms, to teach the mentality to be positive, to
29:37
Speaker 11: be about development, you know, and really searching to push
29:40
Speaker 11: our guys. And so I think about all my guys
29:42
Speaker 11: and it just like overwhelms me with gratitude. I'm so
29:45
Speaker 11: appreciative that, you know, I get to have these opportunities
29:48
Speaker 11: come and this recognition. But you know, I'd be remiss
29:51
Speaker 11: if I didn't talk about Brad. It's it, you know,
29:53
Speaker 11: the great job you did with third down and Thad
29:56
Speaker 11: Lewis with the red zone. I talked about Goodie and Joe,
29:58
Speaker 11: but skip Pete and the running back room teaching them
30:01
Speaker 11: what we're looking for. You know, John Van Damas has
30:03
Speaker 11: done a great job with our first and second down
30:06
Speaker 11: run the past marriage, all the guys all up and
30:09
Speaker 11: down our staff. You know, every every person on our
30:11
Speaker 11: staff has a role that I'm counting on them to
30:14
Speaker 11: bring to every week so that we have this versatile
30:17
Speaker 11: attack where it's not all just coming from me alone.
30:20
Speaker 11: So I couldn't have done it without those guys. And
30:22
Speaker 11: of course great players, you know, and Baker coming in
30:24
Speaker 11: and playing fantastically and really being a threat on third downs,
30:29
Speaker 11: the finish, the mentality, and above all, just the guys
30:32
Speaker 11: really loving to come to work and coach together and
30:36
Speaker 11: practice together. It's been really special and I'm excited to
30:40
Speaker 11: finish this season the right way. And as the things
30:42
Speaker 11: come and those opportunities come, I got an idea about
30:45
Speaker 11: how I want to go about that too.
30:47
Speaker 3: All Right, Dave, I don't know if this modesty is
30:50
Speaker 3: going to work in a head coaching position. I mean,
30:52
Speaker 3: you know, you're just putting the lot off else but yourself,
30:57
Speaker 3: the staff, the players, everybody nothing about you, but you're
31:01
Speaker 3: You're You're a brilliant offensive mind, and you're one of
31:03
Speaker 3: the few Latino coordinators in the NFL. I'm curious what
31:08
Speaker 3: that means to you and your success with the spotlight
31:11
Speaker 3: we're talking about getting shined on you, how that could
31:15
Speaker 3: possibly or potentially open up the doors for others after you.
31:19
Speaker 9: Right?
31:20
Speaker 11: Yeah, For me, it's about belief and opportunity and and
31:25
Speaker 11: obviously i've I've I was with coach Carol for fourteen years,
31:30
Speaker 11: started off coaching in Carson Kelton in LA, where my
31:34
Speaker 11: brothers and I are from. But so I take a
31:36
Speaker 11: lot of pride in it. You know, there's a whole
31:39
Speaker 11: other story about you know, my grandpa, and you know
31:41
Speaker 11: the fight and struggle that my grandparents had, you know,
31:44
Speaker 11: my dad being first generation, just going to college and
31:47
Speaker 11: all that. But just the belief to dream big, to
31:51
Speaker 11: go aspirations, the work ethic that comes along with it,
31:55
Speaker 11: which is a really prideful thing for me being a
31:57
Speaker 11: Mexican American, is just to be able to take every
32:00
Speaker 11: job that you have, whether big or small, and to
32:03
Speaker 11: attack it with pride and have a sense of purpose
32:06
Speaker 11: and identity in it. So it means a lot, and
32:09
Speaker 11: hopefully it encourages somebody out there to just like, hey man,
32:12
Speaker 11: this is sky's a limit. We live in a great country.
32:15
Speaker 11: Football is one of the greatest sports products that there is,
32:18
Speaker 11: you know in terms of you know, viewership and opportunities,
32:21
Speaker 11: but just to believe, you know, believe and continue to
32:24
Speaker 11: just show up and do whatever's asked and being willing.
32:27
Speaker 6: To do that.
32:28
Speaker 4: Dave fantastic. I love I love hearing that. I love
32:32
Speaker 4: what you've done, I love what you represent. Best of
32:35
Speaker 4: luck to you this weekend our Monday night, I should say,
32:38
Speaker 4: and best luck moving forward. Thank you so much for
32:40
Speaker 4: joining James and I on the NFL Report.
32:43
Speaker 11: Appreciate you guys, Go Bucks.
32:46
Speaker 4: Thank you. Now it's taking the page out of his
32:47
Speaker 4: former quarterback Russell Wilson with that, Go Bucks. But coming
32:50
Speaker 4: up next, one of the greatest slot receivers ever, Bill's
32:54
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer Andre Reid is going to join us
32:57
Speaker 4: to talk about his current Bills team. We had the
33:00
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame finalist and the wide receiver log jam.
33:04
Speaker 4: That's next on the NFL Report. All right, welcome back
33:14
Speaker 4: to the NFL Report, and James, I can't wait for this.
33:17
Speaker 4: It's one of my favorite people in the NFL, which
33:20
Speaker 4: you want to whatever you want to call it, Andre Reid,
33:23
Speaker 4: the Pro Football Hall of Famer for the Buffalo Bills. Andre,
33:27
Speaker 4: thanks for joining us here at the NFL Report.
33:29
Speaker 1: Appreciated guys. Thanks for having me Steve.
33:31
Speaker 2: You know, like I said, man, anytime you call, if
33:34
Speaker 2: I'm available, I'm gonna be there.
33:35
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you guys having me on.
33:37
Speaker 4: Well, we appreciate you making yourself available on dre You
33:39
Speaker 4: know you have a full schedule. But before we get going,
33:42
Speaker 4: we're gonna hit on a lot of different things. We
33:44
Speaker 4: got to talk about your Buffalo Bills, right This is
33:47
Speaker 4: a dangerous football team that really showed unbelievable mental toughness
33:53
Speaker 4: last week to win the AFC East Drey. They were
33:57
Speaker 4: six and six. They were talking about firing Sean McDermott, right, well,
34:00
Speaker 4: the people on the outside were, And now they go
34:03
Speaker 4: on this run. What do you see with this team
34:06
Speaker 4: that makes him seem so dangerous going into the playoffs.
34:09
Speaker 2: We can spend an hour on what this team has
34:13
Speaker 2: done the past five weeks. I mean left for dead
34:16
Speaker 2: at six and six after twelve weeks. Basically they had
34:19
Speaker 2: to win out to a certain point and get some
34:22
Speaker 2: help and you and you hit the nail on the head.
34:25
Speaker 2: Sean McDermot and that coaching staff and that organization has
34:28
Speaker 2: really done a great job with those guys of having
34:32
Speaker 2: them believe that it's all in your hands if you
34:35
Speaker 2: just go out win regardless of what happens.
34:38
Speaker 1: You can't say that you guys didn't go out there
34:40
Speaker 1: and kind of lay an egg.
34:43
Speaker 2: And they have responded, you know, going to Kansas City,
34:46
Speaker 2: that was a tough game. The only two games in
34:49
Speaker 2: that five game streak that I was worried about was
34:51
Speaker 2: the LA Chargers and the Patriots, two teams that could
34:57
Speaker 2: spoil your your your your run to get to the playoffs,
35:01
Speaker 2: and they squeak by there. It wins the wins, especially
35:03
Speaker 2: at this time of year. They played Kansas City straight up.
35:07
Speaker 2: They made some plays at the end to win that game.
35:10
Speaker 2: Miami last week was another another one. You just never
35:13
Speaker 2: knew what was gonna happen. They played, Uh, they played
35:17
Speaker 2: excellent dare down the stretch. You got an interception tailor
35:20
Speaker 2: rap at the end to seal that.
35:22
Speaker 1: And then the Cowboys, you know, the Cowboys were one
35:24
Speaker 1: of the hottest teams coming into Buffalo.
35:26
Speaker 2: I was actually act that game. Anything could have happened there,
35:29
Speaker 2: even though they were home. They beat the They beat
35:32
Speaker 2: the Cowboys pretty good.
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Speaker 6: Yep.
35:34
Speaker 1: Uh so I think they believe that.
35:37
Speaker 2: And now they take on a Pittsburgh Steeler team that's
35:40
Speaker 2: that believes they can win, obviously.
35:42
Speaker 1: But coming into Orchard Park, they don't want to repeat
35:45
Speaker 1: it what happened last year.
35:46
Speaker 2: You guys remember the Cincinnati Bengals came in there last
35:49
Speaker 2: year and and it seemed like the Bills didn't even
35:52
Speaker 2: show up.
35:54
Speaker 1: And everybody can talk about.
35:55
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the Deamar Hamlin thing, the weather, all
36:00
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff could have been a factor, but
36:03
Speaker 2: they still had to show up, and they didn't show up.
36:05
Speaker 2: And I don't see that happening coming up Sunday against
36:07
Speaker 2: the Steelers at home. They're not gonna have a repeat
36:10
Speaker 2: of that. And they're just a team that's very dangerous.
36:13
Speaker 2: You guys said that earlier. They're a dangerous football.
36:15
Speaker 6: Team right now, and they did it.
36:17
Speaker 1: They're doing this. We're not a lot of their starters.
36:21
Speaker 1: You know, Trey White goes out early in the season,
36:24
Speaker 1: Matt Mulano goes out, kind.
36:26
Speaker 2: Of like the quarterback of the defense. The two corners
36:30
Speaker 2: that played that played well these last five six games,
36:34
Speaker 2: matter of fact, all year, Benford and Dane Jackson. Taylor
36:38
Speaker 2: rap coming in, like I said before, making that interception
36:41
Speaker 2: in Miami this.
36:42
Speaker 1: Past weekend to seal that deal.
36:43
Speaker 2: So everybody has stepped up to the plate and everybody's contributed.
36:48
Speaker 1: That's why they're in the position they are today.
36:52
Speaker 2: And probably the biggest thing that they've done this year,
36:54
Speaker 2: more than any year in the past five years, six years,
36:57
Speaker 2: is they let James Cook.
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Speaker 1: How about that?
37:01
Speaker 6: There you go, It's right, let James James. Let James Cook.
37:05
Speaker 3: I andre I was with this team a couple of times,
37:09
Speaker 3: right when they made that change early on at offensive
37:12
Speaker 3: coordinator and Joe Brady takes over. I did that game
37:14
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia where they came up short, but there was
37:16
Speaker 3: no denying that Josh Allen was the best player.
37:18
Speaker 6: On the field in that game.
37:20
Speaker 3: I did the game in Kansas City where they ended
37:22
Speaker 3: up starting to turn this whole thing kind of around,
37:24
Speaker 3: and I look at what Joe's doing with Josh and
37:26
Speaker 3: getting him in a rhythm, getting him comfortable is the
37:29
Speaker 3: biggest part of seeing a lot of the success he's having.
37:32
Speaker 3: But obviously the turnovers still kind of happen as well.
37:35
Speaker 3: But the magical plays do they outweigh a couple of
37:39
Speaker 3: the mistakes that can happen here or there? What How
37:42
Speaker 3: do you sum him up as a player because the
37:44
Speaker 3: brilliance is so off the charts at times? Do you
37:48
Speaker 3: just say, we know, maybe a missdup here there will happen.
37:52
Speaker 2: I just hope now that they're, you know, in the
37:55
Speaker 2: playoffs and this game is really important at home, you
38:00
Speaker 2: just gotta let Josh. I mean, people got to realize
38:02
Speaker 2: Josh has to be Josh. He's one of the top
38:05
Speaker 2: five quarterbacks in the league. When he's at his best.
38:09
Speaker 2: He is the best quarterback in the league. To me,
38:12
Speaker 2: that's because I played there. I just think he has
38:15
Speaker 2: all the intilligibles that you want in a quarterback, leadership
38:19
Speaker 2: and arm strength, and the guy can run. He can
38:22
Speaker 2: run people over. He can do everything that some of
38:24
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks can't do in this league. But he's gonna
38:27
Speaker 2: make those mistakes. Is how you come back from him.
38:31
Speaker 2: And Josh has done that, and that team believes in him.
38:34
Speaker 2: I mean, you can see Stefan Diggs in his face.
38:36
Speaker 2: Everybody's in his face about things. And every time something
38:40
Speaker 2: like this happens, when he throws a pick that shouldn't
38:42
Speaker 2: be you know, he shouldn't have threw it, they pan
38:45
Speaker 2: on him and you can see not only the frustration
38:48
Speaker 2: in him, but all the other players coming up to
38:51
Speaker 2: him and say, hey man, you're our guy.
38:52
Speaker 11: We believe in you.
38:54
Speaker 1: And that's really what Josh is about.
38:56
Speaker 2: And Joe Brady, like you said, he's done a fabulous
38:59
Speaker 2: job him of letting him be Josh Allen.
39:02
Speaker 1: Just be Josh Allen.
39:04
Speaker 6: Make the runs.
39:04
Speaker 1: If you don't see anything, run run run run run.
39:07
Speaker 4: Run, Hey Andre, you know, let's let's change gears a
39:10
Speaker 4: little bit. Because you know, we we love talking about
39:13
Speaker 4: on the show slot slot defensive backs and slot receivers.
39:16
Speaker 4: And you're one of the greatest slot receivers, one of
39:18
Speaker 4: the greatest slot receivers ever. That's why you're forever enshrined
39:21
Speaker 4: in Canton. But it's funny, and you know this, when
39:23
Speaker 4: you played, the value on slot receivers isn't what it
39:27
Speaker 4: is today. How is that position evolved and why do
39:31
Speaker 4: you think it is such an important part of the
39:33
Speaker 4: game now.
39:34
Speaker 2: Well, I think when I played, you know, during during
39:37
Speaker 2: the time I played, it was the no huddle, and
39:41
Speaker 2: if you looked at Houston Houston Owlers, the old school
39:44
Speaker 2: Houston Olers, they had a way of spreading people out
39:48
Speaker 2: with all their receivers, with Jefferies and and Ernest Gibbons
39:51
Speaker 2: and Drew Hill and all those guys.
39:53
Speaker 1: I think right now the game.
39:56
Speaker 2: They spread people out, but they bring that they bring
39:59
Speaker 2: that James Cook kind of guy that can catch out
40:01
Speaker 2: of the backfield, catch the ball out at the backfield,
40:05
Speaker 2: and they bring the receivers in too. So they want
40:07
Speaker 2: to spread people out and try to get confusion like
40:09
Speaker 2: we did back in the day. I think the slot
40:12
Speaker 2: receiver is still a very important integral part of an
40:17
Speaker 2: offensive game plan because that guy is going to be
40:19
Speaker 2: the guy a lot of times that either he's gonna
40:22
Speaker 2: get doubled or he's not gonna get double. He's gonna
40:24
Speaker 2: be one on one. And the middle of the field
40:27
Speaker 2: is really important. A lot of times the middle of
40:29
Speaker 2: field is left wide open and you've got to have
40:31
Speaker 2: that slot guy in there that can beat two guys.
40:34
Speaker 2: You got to beat the guy on you, and you
40:35
Speaker 2: got to be able to beat that deep safety wherever
40:37
Speaker 2: he is. So I don't think it has diminished at all.
40:42
Speaker 2: They really rely on that slot guy like a Keenan
40:44
Speaker 2: Allen keen Awa had one hundred and eight catches this
40:46
Speaker 2: year because they relied on him.
40:48
Speaker 1: They knew that he can make those plays in that slot,
40:52
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of these guys can do that.
40:56
Speaker 3: I gotta ask you really quick, and we're gonna make
40:58
Speaker 3: time for the Hall of Fame receivers that you want
41:01
Speaker 3: to talk about, but very quickly. Deebo Samuel's on this show,
41:04
Speaker 3: Andre he plays out of the spot. What's your thought
41:07
Speaker 3: on Deebo's game? Real quick Debo's debo. He's like he's
41:11
Speaker 3: like the movie Friday Debo. I mean I've talked I
41:17
Speaker 3: had a chance to really talk to him a couple
41:19
Speaker 3: of years.
41:19
Speaker 2: I think last year, two years ago, up to Super
41:21
Speaker 2: Bowl and actually we were doing a hang and they
41:26
Speaker 2: had just played the Cowboys the week before, and Treyvon
41:29
Speaker 2: Diggs was sitting with us, and to hear those two
41:32
Speaker 2: go at it, it was pretty pretty entertaining. But you know,
41:35
Speaker 2: obviously Debo is not only a tough guy to cover,
41:38
Speaker 2: but he creates a lot of mismatches. You never see
41:42
Speaker 2: a linebacker on him. And every time he catches the ball,
41:44
Speaker 2: he's you can run you over. You know, he's one
41:48
Speaker 2: of a kind. So he's Yeah, Debo's Debo. Bottom line, love.
41:53
Speaker 4: That respect for one of the greatest yack receivers to
41:55
Speaker 4: ever do it in you talking about probably the best
41:57
Speaker 4: yack receiver in the game today. Lastly, Andre, and you
42:01
Speaker 4: know this man, you had to wait a long time
42:04
Speaker 4: to get into the hall because of the wide receiver
42:07
Speaker 4: log jam. Well here we are again of the fifteenth
42:11
Speaker 4: finalists left, Reggie, Wayne Tory, Holt, Andre Johnson. Another logjam
42:16
Speaker 4: of wide receivers. Do you think any of them, if
42:20
Speaker 4: maybe not, multiple of them get in or as we've
42:23
Speaker 4: seen before. They tend to cancel each other out when
42:25
Speaker 4: these voters select because there's so many of them.
42:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've talked to all three of them the
42:31
Speaker 2: past five, six, seven years, and it's not like they
42:35
Speaker 2: look at me and say, hey, what's going on. I
42:37
Speaker 2: mean back in the day, you guys know it's me
42:40
Speaker 2: Chris and Tim Brown.
42:42
Speaker 6: Yep.
42:42
Speaker 1: And years later it's the same thing with Andre Johnson, Reggie.
42:48
Speaker 11: Wayne and Toy.
42:50
Speaker 2: And I hope this year is a year they kind
42:53
Speaker 2: of not kind of, but I hope this year is
42:55
Speaker 2: the year the voters get it right and put one
42:57
Speaker 2: or two of those guys And to those guys would
42:59
Speaker 2: be awesome. Whether that happens or not, it's never happened,
43:03
Speaker 2: I don't think, but I think it's time that that happens.
43:07
Speaker 1: These guys all are deserving.
43:10
Speaker 2: Their their numbers are all up there, they're impacting, the
43:13
Speaker 2: game is tremendous. They all deserve it. And I just
43:18
Speaker 2: hope one of this year that one of those guys
43:21
Speaker 2: or two of those guys get in matter of fact,
43:22
Speaker 2: put all three of them in.
43:26
Speaker 6: Yeah, put all three in.
43:28
Speaker 3: I don't want to say any I don't want to
43:29
Speaker 3: say Andre anything pushes anybody over the edge. But two
43:32
Speaker 3: of the three have been on the show recently with
43:34
Speaker 3: Steve and I and Andre Johnson and Tory Holt and
43:37
Speaker 3: Reggie Wade's a good buddy of our. Steve, we got
43:39
Speaker 3: to get him on the show. I think the NFL
43:41
Speaker 3: from We're going to push us everybody into the hall. Andre,
43:46
Speaker 3: so much for joining us. Enjoy the postseason as long
43:49
Speaker 3: as it goes in Buffalo there.
43:52
Speaker 1: Yes, I definitely will. And I got people coming at
43:55
Speaker 1: me left and right.
43:55
Speaker 11: You're coming up to the game.
43:56
Speaker 6: You come up to the game.
43:57
Speaker 2: As soon as I look at that weather report, I go,
44:00
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if I'm gonna.
44:02
Speaker 4: Do that further California sounds real nice, that's right.
44:06
Speaker 1: Hey, here's what I'm hoping guys, before we leave.
44:10
Speaker 2: I'm hoping they win and beat Pittsburgh and then Kansas
44:14
Speaker 2: City wins, and we got Kansas City and Buffalo.
44:17
Speaker 1: I definitely will go that.
44:18
Speaker 4: Okay, here we go. That's what I'm talking about. Hey,
44:21
Speaker 4: Andre is always great, my man. We'll see you a
44:23
Speaker 4: little bit, bro awesome.
44:25
Speaker 1: Nice nice talking to you guys. Appreciate you guys having
44:27
Speaker 1: me on.
44:28
Speaker 3: Let's talk to Super wild Card weekend, and it starts
44:31
Speaker 3: on Saturday, and it was playing Saturday Steve the defending
44:34
Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. Everybody's talking about why
44:37
Speaker 3: they can't return to the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 6: We're gonna tell you why they can next in the
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Speaker 4: We're back at the NFL Report JP. It's the last
45:22
Speaker 4: block where we're going to talk to Super Wildcard weekend.
45:25
Speaker 4: As you see, things kick off with the Browns of
45:27
Speaker 4: Texans Saturday, the Dolphins a Chief Saturday night. That is
45:31
Speaker 4: the Peacock exclusive. That Steelers at Bills Sunday morning. Get
45:34
Speaker 4: us going, Hey, Cowboys, Rams and Lions, the Eagles and
45:38
Speaker 4: Buccaneers Monday night.
45:40
Speaker 6: That wraps up wild Card weekend.
45:42
Speaker 4: Then we move on to the divisional round wars cr
45:44
Speaker 4: Guy Deebo Samuel. But let's look at that Peacock exclusive
45:48
Speaker 4: game Miami at Kansas City. You're gonna be there. I
45:51
Speaker 4: hope you got your thermals and all your nuclear parka
45:54
Speaker 4: and all over.
45:54
Speaker 6: I got them JP.
45:56
Speaker 4: We've all across this media landscape talked about for weeks
46:00
Speaker 4: what the flaws are for the Kansas City Chiefs. Well,
46:03
Speaker 4: let's talk about maybe how and why they can run
46:06
Speaker 4: it back. There are some elements there as to why
46:09
Speaker 4: they can get back to the Super Bowl games.
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Speaker 6: Oh there are. This is one of the best defenses
46:13
Speaker 6: in the postseason.
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Speaker 3: This is an offensive mind in Andy Reid that is
46:17
Speaker 3: unmatched really, you would say in the postseason right now,
46:21
Speaker 3: and you have the base of the NFL and the
46:23
Speaker 3: best player in football and Patrick Mahomes. It hasn't been
46:25
Speaker 3: great on that side of the ball, Steve, But what
46:27
Speaker 3: I want to see and maybe we will because this
46:29
Speaker 3: is what Patrick Mahomes was talking about this week.
46:32
Speaker 6: You're not going to win fourteen games every season, which
46:34
Speaker 6: is what he's used to this year, he has not.
46:36
Speaker 3: He said, how do you find a different way once
46:38
Speaker 3: you're in to go through the process and still find
46:41
Speaker 3: ways to win games?
46:42
Speaker 6: Is this when he channels his inner Tom Brady?
46:44
Speaker 3: Every season for Brady, the Tea years that they won
46:47
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, Steve were not perfect, but when they
46:49
Speaker 3: got to the postseason, he found a way to win
46:51
Speaker 3: football games. And this is something that Patrick Mahomes has
46:54
Speaker 3: been keeping his eye on forever. He's always asked Brady
46:57
Speaker 3: questions for advice. He's always been studying Bray. He wanted
47:01
Speaker 3: Blaine Gabbert to come in as his backup this year
47:03
Speaker 3: because of his time with Tom Brady. So I'm fascinating
47:06
Speaker 3: to see what Patrick Mahomes does to win games in
47:09
Speaker 3: a different fashion this postseason than what they've done in
47:13
Speaker 3: years past, because let's just face the facts, the team
47:15
Speaker 3: is different than it's been in years past, and how
47:18
Speaker 3: do they adapt.
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Speaker 6: I think they had the ability to do it. We'll
47:20
Speaker 6: see if it's possible.
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Speaker 4: I love that, James, because we haven't talked about that enough,
47:25
Speaker 4: you know, in the past years because they were just automatic,
47:28
Speaker 4: you know, they were the team that could flip the
47:29
Speaker 4: switch on, but they didn't need to because they usually
47:31
Speaker 4: were rolling into the playoffs. Remember this is the first
47:34
Speaker 4: time where they could possibly go on the road if
47:37
Speaker 4: they win this Saturday night against the Miami Dolphins. And
47:41
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes and I love you you did the comp
47:43
Speaker 4: to Tom Brady because think about how many times they
47:45
Speaker 4: got it going. Okay, we got back in practice this week.
47:48
Speaker 4: It is a new season, you know, Isaiah Pacheco. We
47:51
Speaker 4: may get some wide receivers back, Nicole Hardman, maybe he's
47:54
Speaker 4: up to speed. The offensive line we got time to
47:57
Speaker 4: get into a groove. And Travis Kelcey, remember he sat
48:00
Speaker 4: out Week eighteen. Maybe he's feeling need it better and
48:03
Speaker 4: get things going because he just hasn't looked like the
48:05
Speaker 4: same player. But you mentioned that defense, and that's gonna
48:08
Speaker 4: be huge against the Miami Dolphins. Lagerius Sneed We've been
48:11
Speaker 4: bigging him up all season. He's gonna have Tyreek Hill
48:14
Speaker 4: an awful lot. That's gonna be an opportunity to try
48:17
Speaker 4: to slow him down just a little bit. And if
48:20
Speaker 4: they get past this game, James, this is a.
48:23
Speaker 6: Team want to play.
48:25
Speaker 4: I think I think this is the real test for
48:27
Speaker 4: them because once they get by this, this might show
48:29
Speaker 4: everybody else that this could be the dangerous team real quick.
48:33
Speaker 4: What's a sleeper game or sleeper scenario for you wild
48:36
Speaker 4: Card weekend? Could it be Philadelphia where quarterback Jalen Hurts
48:39
Speaker 4: has not even thrown the ball as of Thursday because
48:42
Speaker 4: of a finger injury.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's massive.
48:45
Speaker 3: I covered that game with Jacksonville was essentially a postseason
48:48
Speaker 3: game for them trying to get in against the Tennessee Titans,
48:50
Speaker 3: and there was some things that Trevor Lawrence hadn't thrown
48:54
Speaker 3: a ball for two weeks that you saw affecting that offense. Now,
48:57
Speaker 3: this is a week this is a finger, but it's
48:59
Speaker 3: it's just something we're gonna have to keep an eye on.
49:01
Speaker 3: And I'm also looking at that top game right there.
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Speaker 6: What if CJ. Stroud comes out.
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Speaker 3: In balls against that dominant defense, Oh boy, maybe the
49:09
Speaker 3: best defense in the postseason the Cleveland Browns have. That
49:12
Speaker 3: would just be an unbelievable showcase down there at NRG Stadium.
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Speaker 4: Steve, I want to pick up wheur guy. Andre Reed
49:20
Speaker 4: was talking about the Buffalo Bills and Pittsburgh Steelers.
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Speaker 6: And some of the things that come with josh Aallenge. Yeah,
49:25
Speaker 6: some of the giveaways.
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Speaker 4: Look during this five game win streak that they've had, James,
49:29
Speaker 4: four of those games have been one possession games and
49:31
Speaker 4: they have turned the ball over eight times. The Steelers
49:34
Speaker 4: are not a team that you want to turn the
49:36
Speaker 4: ball over against at this time of year because they're
49:39
Speaker 4: hitting two or three explosive plays a game. That's where
49:42
Speaker 4: Mason Rudolph you can do it.
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Speaker 6: JP. Why don't you tell the folks where to find us?
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Speaker 4: Every week?
49:47
Speaker 3: Oh? Find us every week Mondays, Thursdays. Look at these
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Speaker 3: We're everywhere Steve, catch us however you would like.
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Speaker 6: Next week. We had great guests.
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Speaker 3: Today, We're gonna have great guests heading into the divisional round.
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Speaker 6: There's a little tease for you, Steve. Enjoy the weekend.