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Speaker 1: Jesus, he's the reform it tonight, the war and Iran
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Speaker 1: is back on after Israel tales Donald Trump to take
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Speaker 1: a hike and caught out how ABC star Charlie Pickering
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Speaker 1: didn't tell the truth about the interview about Grace Tame
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Speaker 1: that later had him chicken out under ABC pressure. And
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Speaker 1: now US Vice President j d Vance is in a
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Speaker 1: brawl with Britain's Prime minister over the murder of a
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Speaker 1: teenager was handcuffed by police as he lay dying, falsely
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Speaker 1: accused of racism. But first today even news poll shows
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Speaker 1: that Pauline Hanson's One Nation party is even more popular
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Speaker 1: than Anthony Albanese's Labor government. But still the Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: refuses to understand and refuses to change an eardly ship.
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Speaker 1: By the way, this is the beginning of the end
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Speaker 1: for Albanese's leadership. And these results also confirmed what I
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Speaker 1: said last month that opposition leader Angus Taylor is the
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Speaker 1: walking dead, because look, One Nation's primary vote is now
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Speaker 1: thirty one percent out of Labor on thirty and you
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Speaker 1: can write off the Liberals down to just eighteen percent. Catastrophic.
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Speaker 1: Its vote has fallen even more than Labor's but listen
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Speaker 1: to Albanese's camera bubble answer today to this embarrassing poll,
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Speaker 1: how it's still in denial of what the handsome revolution
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Speaker 1: is really about.
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Speaker 2: To you know, paraphrase, it's the economy stupids, al is
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Speaker 2: the economy.
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Speaker 1: Cost of living? Ah, well, that's true up to a point. Yes,
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Speaker 1: labor has failed totally. There Australians are actually getting poor
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Speaker 1: at per person under this government. Plus of course they're
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Speaker 1: seeing their taxes flush down Labour's global warming toilet. That
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Speaker 1: didn't enrage anyone of sense, And of course hard times
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Speaker 1: do make people angry with the government, although note they're
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Speaker 1: even angry with the Liberals. Now. I do get why
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Speaker 1: albaniz he wants to think he stinks just because the
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Speaker 1: economy is bad, and boy does he stink. Sixty percent disapproval.
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Speaker 1: He'd prefer to believe that because he could then hope
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Speaker 1: to fix it with just another handout before the election. Simple,
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Speaker 1: but so in denial because let me contrast with Albinizi
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Speaker 1: and his team say up there in Canberra about this
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Speaker 1: poll and immigration. Contrast that with what millions of Australians
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Speaker 1: would have seen just this weekend at home on their TVs.
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Speaker 1: Seeing how their country is being so changed, corrupted by
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Speaker 1: mass immigration and the out of our values. So Albinizi says,
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Speaker 1: I don't talk about massi immigration, about some migrants perhaps
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Speaker 1: being different, you know, their cultures.
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Speaker 2: One thing that you won't hear from me is drawing
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Speaker 2: a distinction between Australians and migrants, you know, who are
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Speaker 2: permanent residents.
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Speaker 1: But on the weekend news bulletins, perhaps millions of Australians
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Speaker 1: sitting there at home, we're told about this.
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Speaker 3: A violent free for all, turning Flinders Street Station into
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Speaker 3: a battleground, brandishing glades and throwing punches.
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Speaker 1: Albanizi says, no, No, overall migrants really, except for one
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Speaker 1: race of people who apparently are magically not descended from
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Speaker 1: the original humans in Africa, there's no cultural differences to
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Speaker 1: worry about.
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Speaker 2: With the exception of First Nations. People were all either
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Speaker 2: migrants or descendants of migrants going back generations.
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Speaker 1: But last weekend, millions of Australians, again just sitting at home,
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Speaker 1: heard this and saw for themselves how changed their country is.
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Speaker 4: Fears for public safety are growing after coconut cartel leader
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Speaker 4: Lorenzo Loamalu was farewell at a funeral in Sydney's West
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Speaker 4: under heavy police guard. The service came just twenty four
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Speaker 4: hours after gunman still on the run target of Function
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Speaker 4: Center where a memorial service for the crime figure was
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Speaker 4: due to be held.
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Speaker 1: How many he tells us not to worry, is a
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Speaker 1: really slashed immigration? In fact today he said, oh, look, look,
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Speaker 1: don't worry. There's more cuts that come, without adding that
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Speaker 1: they're very small cuts still to come. And right now
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Speaker 1: immigration is still in an amazing three hundred thousand new
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Speaker 1: people or so a year.
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Speaker 2: The migration rate has fallen by forty five pers.
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Speaker 1: But last weekend Australians, though, saw on social media how
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Speaker 1: our biggest cities were yet again poison with an important
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Speaker 1: ethnic hatred, with calls for into Farda and Sydney, just
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Speaker 1: months after fifteen people shot dead on Bodeu Beach in
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Speaker 1: an alleged into Farda and Labor Today even sent out
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Speaker 1: MPs to spend that line that no, no, no, the
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Speaker 1: rise of one nation really really is just about the
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Speaker 1: cost of living, you know, the price of houses, and
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Speaker 1: we're supposed to be leave. The government's budget will somehow
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Speaker 1: fix it.
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Speaker 5: It's tough out there, and certainly what people have been
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Speaker 5: telling me over my high time in federal politics that's
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Speaker 5: four years now, is that they want a system that's
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Speaker 5: fairer and they want to be able to fall a home.
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Speaker 5: And so we've taken the really tough decision this budget
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Speaker 5: to an act. Some change are and yeah, people are
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Speaker 5: struggling out there.
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Speaker 1: But again the contrast on the weekend, millions of Australians
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Speaker 1: would have instead seen reports of this and wondered what
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Speaker 1: the hell is happening to their country and why Again
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Speaker 1: no description of the offender.
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Speaker 6: A woman going about her weekly tasks, parking up to
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Speaker 6: do a load of watching when a machete is how
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Speaker 6: to ear throat, ambushed by a hooded teenager.
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Speaker 1: Look, it's true. There is no one reason for the
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Speaker 1: explosive rise of Pauline Hansen. It is true. There is
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Speaker 1: cost of living. There is also the outrageous lies that
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Speaker 1: Albinizi told coming up to this budget. Of course, and
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Speaker 1: yes the Liberals did betray Conservatives, and there's other stuff
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Speaker 1: as well. But look at immigration, look at the crime,
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Speaker 1: Look at the surrender of Australia by our politicians. Labor
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Speaker 1: now flying three flags out of shame for the national
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Speaker 1: one and the Greens shoving the national flag out of
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Speaker 1: the way, completely.
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Speaker 7: In front of the flag worries.
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Speaker 8: Well, I think we've got a lot of work to
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Speaker 8: do in this country. To tell the truth, We've got
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Speaker 8: a lot of work to do to overcome the racism
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Speaker 8: and dispossession.
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Speaker 1: It's this sense of losing our country, losing our unity,
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Speaker 1: losing even the safety that we assumed was ours that
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Speaker 1: seems to me the biggest issue of all, behind the
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Speaker 1: rise of one Nation. And I will finish by proving
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Speaker 1: that in two ways. First statistics last week's Redbridge poll.
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Speaker 1: It also showed that one Nation is now more popular
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Speaker 1: than labor, but added that voters rated labor actually above
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Speaker 1: one Nation for dealing with the cost of living, and
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Speaker 1: in fact, voters put labor ahead of One Nation in
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Speaker 1: every issue except two immigration, particularly and crime. And I
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Speaker 1: think they're related there about the changing of Australia to
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Speaker 1: something that seems alien and even hostile to many people.
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Speaker 1: And the other proof I'll show you is that Pauline
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Speaker 1: Hanson represents the opposite, the familiar Australia that's being washed away, attacked,
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Speaker 1: and that, by the way, is so clear from a
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Speaker 1: fascinating video that the Herald's son made of her on
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Speaker 1: the weekend, made of three days, the reporter James Campbell
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Speaker 1: spent with Hanson on a drive through country Australia, seeing
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Speaker 1: the astonishing reception hansoon got and no mention here of
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Speaker 1: cost of living.
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Speaker 9: My god, she's standing up for Australians.
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Speaker 10: The points that she's bringing out that the true blue
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Speaker 10: AUSSI is in fa.
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Speaker 11: I'm a big Liberal Party follower.
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Speaker 12: But if they've just Paullen.
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Speaker 4: Shortened, fingers crossed, she she makes it a different.
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Speaker 13: Sorry, people often see as a racist, but I think
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Speaker 13: it's the opposite.
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Speaker 1: I think she's trying to bring everyone together.
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Speaker 12: There's going to be a massive turn, a massive turn
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Speaker 12: of the tide.
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Speaker 1: Now, if you've seen James Campbell on as many appearances
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Speaker 1: here on Sky News, you will know that he is. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: James a great cynic, right, that's his shtick a bit.
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Speaker 1: But you listen to him now on this video. Now
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Speaker 1: that has witnessed Hans's reception out Bush, from the working class,
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Speaker 1: from people who are far from the Canberra bubble.
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Speaker 14: He shook everywhere we have gone.
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Speaker 1: It is the same.
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Speaker 5: It is people coming up, it is people wanting to
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Speaker 5: touch her, it is people crying.
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Speaker 1: It is real and it is big. This is a
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Speaker 1: cultural revolution or counter revolution, and some last minute tax
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Speaker 1: broad from labor will not stop it. Most Hanson voters
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Speaker 1: just want their country back and they do not trust
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Speaker 1: the big parties that gave it away. Joining me and
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Speaker 1: Michael Kroger form Victorian Liberal President Steve Conroy, former Labor
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Speaker 1: senator and cabinet minister. Michael, what do you think has
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Speaker 1: caused Pauling Hanson, after thirty years in politics, to suddenly
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Speaker 1: explode from six and a half percent support just in
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Speaker 1: last year's election to thirty one percent today.
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Speaker 15: So I underpinning everything, Andrew, is a complete loss of
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Speaker 15: trust in labor to run the economy. They got lucky
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Speaker 15: last year of the rate cup before the election. They
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Speaker 15: then bought the election now when realized they have no idea.
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Speaker 15: The budgets incredibly unpopular, the button place is massively in debt,
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Speaker 15: and regrettably, we yet haven't convinced people that we can
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Speaker 15: do better, which of course we think we can, but
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Speaker 15: people have just basically said what we're seeing. Andrew, I
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Speaker 15: think we're entering into a new decade. As you call
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Speaker 15: it a counter revolution, I say there is a massive
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Speaker 15: political gravitational pull towards normality and reason, away from extremes,
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Speaker 15: away from isis brides, away from you know, the bias
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Speaker 15: in school curriculums, university curriculums, the left wing ABC out
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Speaker 15: of Sydney, isis brides, Jewish hatred, massacres, massive public servants salaries. Clifford,
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Speaker 15: people in Canberra like they're part of the Louis the
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Speaker 15: fourteen set, whereas the average Australian is you know, on
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Speaker 15: their knees, can't afford lunch, the massive expenditure in the
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Speaker 15: cities as opposed to the country area's mass immigration, concern
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Speaker 15: that we're a racist country, that our flag needs to
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Speaker 15: be stood on some of the things you've talked about.
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Speaker 15: The list goes on and on and on, and people
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Speaker 15: have now said enough enough of all of this.
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Speaker 1: But I don't believe it. Alb and easy.
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Speaker 15: We didn't fight hard enough for.
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Speaker 1: What is reasonable and normal.
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Speaker 15: When we're in government, Labor said, don't fight the cultures. No,
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Speaker 15: this is normality. Right, we need to return to normality.
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Speaker 15: And that's what's happening now, and that's what happening on
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Speaker 15: the next decade.
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Speaker 1: Andrew, I think found fascinating. Michael, you touched first on
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Speaker 1: the budget and you know costs are living whatever, and
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Speaker 1: immediately that everything else was about values, identity, national identity.
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Speaker 1: In particularly Stephen would what would you agree or disagree
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Speaker 1: with in that?
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Speaker 8: I think I grew with Michael's premise. I don't agree
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Speaker 8: with where he wandered off to. I think there's a
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Speaker 8: lot of Australians who have come to the conclusion that
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Speaker 8: the system, the institutions are not delivering a fair go
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Speaker 8: and they want it shaken up. It's a little bit
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Speaker 8: like the Trump situation and his Margaret base, but there
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Speaker 8: Australias who don't believe they're ever going to own their
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Speaker 8: own home. They're under enormous economic pressure and they want
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Speaker 8: to see something change. They want to be able to say,
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Speaker 8: I'm going to leave my kids better.
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Speaker 1: Off than I have been.
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Speaker 8: That is the aspiration of almost every Australian family. They
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Speaker 8: want their kids to be in a better position and
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Speaker 8: both the that's.
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Speaker 1: A given in politicians even and I'm just wondering everyone
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Speaker 1: on the video. Everyone in the video is talking about
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Speaker 1: identity issues, race, that kind of stuff. That's what I
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Speaker 1: want to ask you about the values, the so called
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Speaker 1: culture wars.
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Speaker 8: Look, I'm not taking I love James Campbell. I think
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Speaker 8: he's incisive and he's been spot on over a lot
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Speaker 8: of the issues over the last twelve ro eighteen months.
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Speaker 8: I'm not taking too much notice. Who have sweep through
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Speaker 8: you know, king Roy and Northern Queensland. I'm just not okay.
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Speaker 8: It doesn't represent remotely the majority of Australians who live
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Speaker 8: in the cities of this country. It's not to say
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Speaker 8: Pauline Hanson isn't causing enormous damage to both the Liberal
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Speaker 8: Party and to labor now within the outer suburban fringe
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Speaker 8: into regional centers.
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Speaker 1: But it's a.
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Speaker 8: Very different world in king Arroy than it is in Melton,
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Speaker 8: or in Werribee or a goddamn.
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Speaker 1: All right, Stephen. But the whole point is that the
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Speaker 1: one nation vote, this wasn't This wasn't supposed to represent
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Speaker 1: all Australians. This was supposed to represent one nation which
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Speaker 1: is indeed strong in the country while the cities are
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Speaker 1: still in the pockets of Labor in particular and the Liberals.
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Speaker 1: That's the whole issue. But Michael, let me just ask
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Speaker 1: you both about your own side of politics. This poll
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Speaker 1: and this one nation threat seems to spell absolute ruin
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Speaker 1: for the coalition and you know it comes just after
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Speaker 1: week after week and a bit after Tony Abbott was
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Speaker 1: hard as you know, appointed Liberal Party national presidents shake
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Speaker 1: things up. My god, has he got something ahead of
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Speaker 1: him to do.
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Speaker 14: Well?
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Speaker 1: He has?
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Speaker 15: And you know, whether you call him the culture wars,
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Speaker 15: value wars whatever, you know, as I said, this pool
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Speaker 15: towards a normality is pulsating. You can see it around
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Speaker 15: everywhere around the country. People have had enough of So wh.
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Speaker 1: An't they trust liberals? Why are they trusting the liberals
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Speaker 1: to do it?
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Speaker 15: Because Andrew between thirteen and twenty two, we didn't resist
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Speaker 15: this pool away to the left.
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Speaker 1: What did we do?
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Speaker 15: What did we do about the massive Canbury bureaucracy? I mean,
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Speaker 15: look at it this way, look at it this way.
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Speaker 15: We had many opportunities and we said, oh we got
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Speaker 15: I think we got spooked out of fighting this. So
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Speaker 15: it's called values wars by saying oh, you know you're
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Speaker 15: just into culture wars. No, no, no, we're not knowing. Well,
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Speaker 15: that's the Australin way of life. If you're not prepared
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Speaker 15: to argue, if this strain way of life, the normal
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Speaker 15: Australian way of life, which is why so many people
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Speaker 15: come here. Then the public have basically lost a lot
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Speaker 15: of trust in it in US and it's going to
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Speaker 15: be very hard to get that back. We've only got
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Speaker 15: a year eighteen months to get that back. That's why
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Speaker 15: IVADE is so low. These values matter to people. And
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Speaker 15: when half of the country Andrew, half of the country
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Speaker 15: earns less than fifty five thousand dollars, half the country
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Speaker 15: has paid less than fifty five thousand dollars because that
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Speaker 15: includes all the part timers, but they still get less
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Speaker 15: than fifty five thousand. And they see all these universities
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Speaker 15: show vias chances on one point five million, other bureaucrats
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Speaker 15: on nine hundred thousand a million, the wonderful Sex Discrimination
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Speaker 15: Commission of the things, anticipatory dismissal for men who trans
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Speaker 15: men who might get pregnant, therefore you can't sack them
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Speaker 15: on grounds that they may have children, blah blah blah.
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Speaker 15: She's sitting there on four hundred eight thousand. People are
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Speaker 15: horrified by these salaries and they basically think the Liberals
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Speaker 15: didn't do enough about it. The ABC now one point
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Speaker 15: three billion, Andrew one point four If you total the
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Speaker 15: sales and programs one point four billion, the ABC spends
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Speaker 15: really really apart from country radio, ABC and City should continue.
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Speaker 15: There's many of these things and it's.
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Speaker 1: All about it. It's all about their thinking. They're what
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Speaker 1: you're saying is they're all feeling or they're all a
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Speaker 1: number of feeling under attack by paid bureaucrats, out of touch,
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Speaker 1: overpaid whose mission seems to be changing Australia to a
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Speaker 1: shape that these people do not recognize. But most Stephen,
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Speaker 1: this is also I agree with you. This is primarily
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Speaker 1: a crisis for the Liberals and even more so for
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Speaker 1: the nationals. They are going to get wiped out. But
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Speaker 1: long term it is also a real problem for labor.
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Speaker 1: This is the working class that labor thought it represented
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Speaker 1: that you join the Labor Party in your teens, you know,
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Speaker 1: as a part of the working class. They don't think
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Speaker 1: it is now the part of the working class. What's
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Speaker 1: the long term threat to alban easy to labor and
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Speaker 1: into Victoria Labor which has got, of course the next
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Speaker 1: election coming up.
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Speaker 8: Well, look, you make really valid points labor cannot afford.
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Speaker 8: If they think this is just a Liberal party problem,
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Speaker 8: then Labor are beginning to believe their own bs. Okay,
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Speaker 8: this is starting to become far bigger than just a
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Speaker 8: national party liberal party problem. We have to recognize that
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Speaker 8: people want to see change. They don't want more of
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Speaker 8: the same, they don't want the status quo, and we
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Speaker 8: need to be looking at an aggressive policy agenda, which
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Speaker 8: you may dislike what the government did in the last budget,
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Speaker 8: Michael and Andrew, but it's the beginnings of change and
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Speaker 8: I would hope that Albanese and the government continue to
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Speaker 8: recognize that just the usual fly I mean, o'ther a
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Speaker 8: bit like Andrew Hasty or even Tim Wilson, who both
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Speaker 8: support publicly on the record in writing in books the
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Speaker 8: policy initiatives that Labour's put up. Now Tim Wilson, the
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Speaker 8: Shadow Treasurer is pretty embarrassing when they keep reading his.
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Speaker 1: Own book out to him.
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Speaker 8: So people want to know that someone's shaking the system
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Speaker 8: up so that they can afford to have a house
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Speaker 8: in the future, or have a house that isn't going
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Speaker 8: to bankrupt them because interest rates keep going up, petrol
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Speaker 8: prices keep going up, those sorts of issues. So Labor
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Speaker 8: has convenue and worry.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Stephen, I don't know. They want change but
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Speaker 1: they don't want the change that you're offering. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you see how the budget's gone down. They do not
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Speaker 1: want that change that you're offering. And even if they do,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't even touch the sides of the one nation support. Michael.
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Speaker 1: It seems to me that some of the changes that
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Speaker 1: are incumbent on Labor it cannot make if it wants
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Speaker 1: to meet the one nation threat. It cannot attack its
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Speaker 1: own constituency by slashing immigration levels to the levels of
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Speaker 1: the past. It cannot do that. It's DNA, it can't
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Speaker 1: do that. It cannot abandon the whole global warming mad
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Speaker 1: crew say that is driving people nuts and beggar in
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Speaker 1: this country and making them seem like away with the Pixies.
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Speaker 1: It can't do a number of these things.
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Speaker 15: The Labor government in Australia is a poor man's version
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Speaker 15: of the Democratic Party in America, surrounded by celebrity endorsements
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Speaker 15: Hollywood actors and pop singers, and what you've got here
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Speaker 15: in Australia are the left wing media, left wing academics,
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Speaker 15: left wing bureaucrats, left wing unions, the left wing militia
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Speaker 15: demonstrating against the government over now Orcus and Israel and
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Speaker 15: everything else. Labor are run now by the left. The
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Speaker 15: good old days where labor run by people like Hawk
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Speaker 15: and Beasley and Keating and sensible people like Short though
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Speaker 15: those days are gone. You've now got a hard left
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Speaker 15: government run by.
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Speaker 1: Wong and alban Easy.
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Speaker 15: They cannot resist their constituency.
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Speaker 1: You're quite right.
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Speaker 15: I've always said Jim Chalmers is weak because he cannot
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Speaker 15: resist the demands that a treasurer needs to be able
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Speaker 15: to be strong enough to resist. They can't cut spending.
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Speaker 15: They massively now increased taxes, interest rates have gone up,
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Speaker 15: inflation's gone up, blah blah blah. People have totally lost
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Speaker 15: trust in this government. They bought the last election last year.
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Speaker 15: We know all the details. No, this government's in huge trouble.
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Speaker 1: Don't forget. They've already lost.
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Speaker 15: We've lost, you know, fifteen sixty percent of vote one nation.
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Speaker 15: A decade ago, Labour lost eleven percent on their left
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Speaker 15: to the Greens. So they've already been denuded by a
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Speaker 15: signivant amount of their vote. But Labour going to continue
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Speaker 15: to fall in their vote because, as you say, the
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Speaker 15: working class have now worked out that basically they represent
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Speaker 15: the inner city elites, the wealthy bureau.
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Speaker 1: Yes, but it won't be Labour's turn by the time.
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Speaker 1: By the time it's really Labour's turn, the Nationals have
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Speaker 1: virtually gone and the Liberals will be a shell of themselves.
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Speaker 1: That is a big issue for the Liberal Party. Michael Kroegus,
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Speaker 1: Stephen Conroy, thank you very much to you both. After
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Speaker 1: the break, the war in Iran is back on after
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Speaker 1: Israel ignored Donald Trump's strange order not to hit back
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Speaker 1: it Iranian missile attacks. The war in Iran is on again,
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Speaker 1: although this time with a difference. It seems Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: is bowing out, at least for now. Iran last night
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Speaker 1: fared about ten missiles at Israel to support its Hesbila
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Speaker 1: tourist army in Elebanon that's also fighting Israel and pro
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Speaker 1: regime Iranians cheered on TV to see them take off
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Speaker 1: Iranian bactism miss and Yemen also fired a missile that Israel,
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Speaker 1: but Israel shut all his missiles down. Enter Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: The US President ordered Promise ben Minette Yaho to hold
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Speaker 1: off firing missiles back at Iran. He even boasted to
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Speaker 1: a unless that Natanyahu had no choice but to accept
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Speaker 1: whatever deal Trump made with Iran. And he said, I
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Speaker 1: call the shots. I called all the shots. He Israeli
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Speaker 1: prime minister. He doesn't call the shots. Well, the hell
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Speaker 1: with that, said of Israel, and it did far and
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Speaker 1: back in irand his targets in the center in the
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Speaker 1: west of the country, including surface surface missile launch sites
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Speaker 1: to Tehran. Explosions also reported there join us the country's
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Speaker 1: foreign affairs writer Greg Sheridan of The Australian. Greg, great
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Speaker 1: to see you. I mean, I guess we can add
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Speaker 1: Ntnyahu now to the list of world leaders giving Trump
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Speaker 1: the bird. How do you read what's going on?
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Speaker 14: Well, Andrew, great to be with you.
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Speaker 12: I see this as a calculated escalation by Iran. They
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Speaker 12: fired ten missiles at Israel. They didn't think they'd do
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Speaker 12: any damage, but they knew that Israel would have to respond.
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Speaker 12: Everyone in the world would have known that Israel had
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Speaker 12: to respond. By telling Israel not to respond, Trump hands
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Speaker 12: Iran a pretty good victory because if Israel doesn't respond,
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Speaker 12: it looks weak, it looks as though Trump has told
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Speaker 12: it what to do in the interests of Iran. And
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Speaker 12: if Israel does respond, there's a conflict in policy, at
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Speaker 12: least between Israel and the United States. I think Iran
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Speaker 12: is testing and putting pressure on Trump. I think it
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Speaker 12: doesn't think Trump will respond militarily because the war is
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Speaker 12: unpopular and because Iran has shown it can retaliate against
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Speaker 12: the Gulf nations. But it may well overplay its hand
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Speaker 12: and Trump may have to respond. But unless he responds
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Speaker 12: with ground forces, I don't see that he can coerce
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Speaker 12: Iran into reopening the Strait of Hormuz or surrendering its
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Speaker 12: nuclear material. So I think this is set to remain
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Speaker 12: messy for quite a long time.
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Speaker 1: Look, I think you're spot on there, Greg, I think
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Speaker 1: in a sense, Trump is linked and shown in trying
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Speaker 1: to strong arm Israel, asking from them the impossible. His blinked.
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Speaker 1: He's told shown Iran that there's a limit to how
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Speaker 1: far he will go, And I just wonder where this goes.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that he's got you know, if he
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Speaker 1: backs off completely now, well, Iran's going to keep pushing
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Speaker 1: him and they will take that as a sign of victory.
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Speaker 12: Yes, so Trump now has three alternatives. It can either
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Speaker 12: agree to a very very weak deal, or he can
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Speaker 12: relaunch a military initiative, which he seems very reluctant to do,
25:38
Speaker 12: or he can just kind of keep going with the
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Speaker 12: status quo, and I would think that overall that's the
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Speaker 12: most likely outcome. Although Trump is now I think, very
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Speaker 12: very eager for a deal, and the Iranians, if they're
25:52
Speaker 12: a bit smarter than they sometimes are, they could probably
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Speaker 12: get a pretty good deal from him. Wouldn't give them
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Speaker 12: everything they want be a bad deal for the rest
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Speaker 12: of us. They might stay in control of the Strait
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Speaker 12: of or moves because Trump now he doesn't have the
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Speaker 12: domestic packing. People hate paying the high gas prices. The
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Speaker 12: world's energy supply is in a lot of trouble. You know,
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Speaker 12: you don't start a war like this unless you plan
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Speaker 12: to finish it, I would have thought.
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Speaker 1: And Israel has just reminded Trump that he can say
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Speaker 1: what he likes, but that may not bind Israel at all.
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Speaker 1: Every war greg between the US and some Middle Eastern tyranny,
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Speaker 1: I see the same, And I know you've reported on
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Speaker 1: previous wars like this. The name Robert Fiske comes to
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Speaker 1: my mind, among others, John Pilger, you see the same thing.
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Speaker 1: Journalists of the left report from that tyranny or about
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Speaker 1: that touranis If the locals there were free to speak
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Speaker 1: their mind. They do a voxpop. What do you tell?
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Speaker 1: What do you think of Saddam Hussein? Wh I like
26:52
Speaker 1: the man you know? Or worse like I saw to day?
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Speaker 1: With a CNN report that Sky News repeated the journalist
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Speaker 1: doesn't ask questions that might get them jailed or whatever.
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Speaker 1: This CNN reporter I'm going to show you was allowed
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Speaker 1: into Iran, so Iran could tell Americans that a terrible
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Speaker 1: mistake made by their army, the bombing of a school
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Speaker 1: next to a military target, was in fact deliberate. Have looked, so.
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Speaker 16: What's the significance of the minaw missile strike for Iran?
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Speaker 17: It was a symbol of merciless and wickedness of the
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Speaker 17: American and Israelis who knowingly and deliberately targeted this is
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Speaker 17: squolit Minob is also very famous now because of around
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Speaker 17: one hundred and seventy students and the teachers were massacred
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Speaker 17: on that day.
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Speaker 1: So the reporter nods along to those lies. And what's more,
27:46
Speaker 1: it doesn't point out that Iran, if it's so worried
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Speaker 1: about dead civilians, has killed many, many, many more Iranians
27:53
Speaker 1: this year, tens of thousands, and not by accident, it
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Speaker 1: shot or hanged them, including this this democracy protest today
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Speaker 1: and two more yesterday, one of them just ninety years
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Speaker 1: old and hanged, not mentioned by the CNN reporter greg.
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Speaker 14: No, You're absolutely right, Andrew.
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Speaker 12: I think that kind of reporting is very morally dubious,
28:15
Speaker 12: and it's only partially saved if every network that broadcasts
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Speaker 12: gives an introduction which says, we know this is lies,
28:25
Speaker 12: but you know, we want you to hear the lies
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Speaker 12: the Iranians are telling. You know, I was a correspondent
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Speaker 12: in Beijing in nineteen eighty five, and I have nothing
28:34
Speaker 12: but admiration for Western correspondents in China, but I faced
28:38
Speaker 12: a lot of these same kind of problems that the
28:41
Speaker 12: people who told me anything interesting, if I wrote it,
28:44
Speaker 12: I was going to get them into trouble. And writing
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Speaker 12: the government line was not very satisfying as a journalistic experience.
28:53
Speaker 12: Now that's that's not doing what CNN is doing in
28:55
Speaker 12: that case. And then you've got people like Robert Fisk
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Speaker 12: who just parrot the lines of dictatorships quite knowingly. And
29:03
Speaker 12: you know, before that the great example of Wilfred Burchett.
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Speaker 12: These people just pedal falsehoods on our screens.
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Speaker 14: But I agree with you. I think this and the.
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Speaker 12: Moral framework of journalism here has been very poor. I
29:16
Speaker 12: think Trump has executed this war poorly. But there's no
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Speaker 12: moral conquest between Iran, Between the United States and Israel
29:24
Speaker 12: on one hand and Iran on the other, I know
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Speaker 12: which side of that that every civilized human being should
29:30
Speaker 12: want to win.
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Speaker 1: Greg. I'm going to give your voice a arrest. Now.
29:38
Speaker 1: May I prescribe a glass of hot water, the juice
29:44
Speaker 1: of one lemon, a shot of whiskey. You'll be ace
29:48
Speaker 1: after that.
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Speaker 14: You will be appearing on your program.
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Speaker 1: I really appreciated Greg, look after yourself. Thanks a lot.
29:58
Speaker 1: By the way, I've got to go to another thing
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Speaker 1: that really got me today. A lot of headlines about
30:03
Speaker 1: how that nasty Donald Trump walked out of an interview
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Speaker 1: with NBC. But is this actually an interview And the
30:10
Speaker 1: background sound you will hear, by the way, is rain
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Speaker 1: on the tin roof.
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Speaker 7: They sent people to jail who did nothing.
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Speaker 10: W just be very clear, there's no evidence of what
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Speaker 10: you're saying. But there's a lot about toddst Listen to me.
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Speaker 7: Let's talk with tremendous evidence. There's nothing but election was rigged.
30:30
Speaker 7: It was a dirty election. It is happening again right
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Speaker 7: now in Californa is happening right now in California. Right now,
30:39
Speaker 7: it's looking look at what's happened in California, that it's
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Speaker 7: in California.
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Speaker 1: I totally understand why after and this minutes more of
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Speaker 1: that stuff to come by a minute, why after all
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Speaker 1: that heckling, Trump then walked out.
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Speaker 7: I won an election in a landslide and I got
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Speaker 7: ninety four percent. Bad press presented because you have no credibility,
31:03
Speaker 7: but you've.
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Speaker 10: Never presented evidence that it was rigged.
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Speaker 8: Let's keep talking about.
31:06
Speaker 14: I want to talk about talking.
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Speaker 7: You have more evidence, there's more evidence than ever presented.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk.
31:12
Speaker 7: Your elections in this country were like a third world country.
31:16
Speaker 7: Your elections are crooked, and your crooked, and these the
31:19
Speaker 7: presses crooked, and so is ABC and CBS and CNN,
31:25
Speaker 7: your one sided crooked networks. Right, let's call it questions
31:28
Speaker 7: because I've had enough, Thank you, darling, have.
31:30
Speaker 1: A good time for president.
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Speaker 10: Let's please I traveled all the way to Wisconsin.
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Speaker 7: I've traveling, i know, on and off in the rain,
31:39
Speaker 7: and I've given you enough time you would to straighten
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Speaker 7: out your press because you know what, the country can
31:45
Speaker 7: never be great travel.
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Speaker 10: We traveled all the way to Wisconsin.
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Speaker 1: I know Trumble was rude. I know you talked a
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Speaker 1: bunch of nonsense. I know he told them truth. I
31:54
Speaker 1: know all that. But honestly, some American, a lot of
31:58
Speaker 1: American reporters seem to think, seemed terrified to give Trump
32:02
Speaker 1: a say. They can't just sit back, let him talk
32:04
Speaker 1: and then rebutted then or later. They just got to
32:08
Speaker 1: carry on and treat them like I've seen no other
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Speaker 1: president treated. After the Break the Star, Charlie Pickering does
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Speaker 1: a groveling in a U turn after criticizing Grace Stain.
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Speaker 1: But its excuses are fake and I have the tape.
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Speaker 1: Last week one ABC host, did dare do the unthinkable?
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Speaker 1: At the ABC went against the ABC line. Charlie Pickering
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Speaker 1: said it might not have been great that the ABC
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Speaker 1: hired Grace Tame to host the podcast, since she had
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Speaker 1: called for an interfada in Australia just after fifteen people
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Speaker 1: in Sydney have been massacred at a Jewish festival.
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Speaker 12: How do you feel about the fact that they hired
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Speaker 12: Grace Tame after all of that?
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Speaker 16: I think I do actually think problematic that's my personal opinion.
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Speaker 1: Now, problematic is of course a very mild word, but
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Speaker 1: it turned out still to be far too much for
33:08
Speaker 1: the ABC's staff and audience, and the next day Pickering,
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Speaker 1: who is Jewish, did a groveling U turn.
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Speaker 16: On Tuesday, there was a protest outside the ABC here
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Speaker 16: in South Bank by a group critical of the ABC
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Speaker 16: an alleging editorial bias. I headed out to hear what
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Speaker 16: they had to say and interview people in the hope
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Speaker 16: of listening to their concerns and perhaps airing their views
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Speaker 16: on this program. Unfortunately, I was ambushed by a non
33:36
Speaker 16: provocateur and pressed into a conversation that was not planned
33:39
Speaker 16: and that I definitely had no intention of being a
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Speaker 16: part of. I would never have agreed or planned to
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Speaker 16: be interviewed by that person. I never would. More importantly
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Speaker 16: than that, I am very disappointed that there is a
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Speaker 16: suggestion that I am against Grace Tame or that she
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Speaker 16: is not an appropriate host of a podcast about autism.
33:59
Speaker 16: This is simply untrue. I've always been a big fan
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Speaker 16: of Grace Tame.
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Speaker 1: Now that's not only gutless, it's also dishonest. Pickering claim
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Speaker 1: there is ambushed by a provocateur actually a journalist VM
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Speaker 1: Andy and they had never have agreed to an interview
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Speaker 1: with this right winger. But this, in fact is how
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Speaker 1: Pickering started that interview, which lasted ten minutes without Pickering
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Speaker 1: showing any distress or walking away.
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Speaker 14: Charlie Hay or mate, are you part of the protest?
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Speaker 16: I was going to try and talk to someone, and here,
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Speaker 16: let's interview each other.
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Speaker 1: Pickering himself has said let's interview each other and now
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Speaker 1: claims to z Ambush would never have agreed to an interview.
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Speaker 1: And what you heard him say about Grace Tame, apparently
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Speaker 1: he never said joining me. Alisa Goddard, former foreign correspondent,
34:51
Speaker 1: founder of Itoni Media and Scar You's host Anika di Giorgio,
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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, Denika, what on earth does that tell
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Speaker 1: you about the Well?
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Speaker 6: It says to me that anyone who works for the
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Speaker 6: ABC can't be a critical thinker Andrew, they're not allowed
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Speaker 6: to think for themselves, have their own opinions. They've got
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Speaker 6: to keep with that line of the ABC that left
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Speaker 6: wing bias. Don't bother straying away from the narrative because
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Speaker 6: you might lose your job. I actually listened to that
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Speaker 6: entire statement that Charlie Pickering made the other day, and
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Speaker 6: it sounded to me like he was reading off a
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Speaker 6: pre written script. It was like he had a gun
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Speaker 6: held to his head and being forced to just trot
35:28
Speaker 6: out all these accolades and how wonderful grace tame really is. Now,
35:33
Speaker 6: he could have said anything when that interview with RVM
35:36
Speaker 6: and he started. He could have said, I'm sorry, that
35:38
Speaker 6: is a matter from my employer. I'm not going to comment.
35:40
Speaker 6: He could have easily walked away. Instead, as you just showed,
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Speaker 6: he said, let's interview each other, and he stayed for
35:47
Speaker 6: ten minutes. Now, anybody in the media knows that if
35:50
Speaker 6: you get ten minutes with a person that you really
35:53
Speaker 6: want to get a comment out of, and I'm sure
35:55
Speaker 6: that ARV wanted to get that sort of a reaction
35:57
Speaker 6: from Charlie Pickering, ten minutes is a really good amount
36:02
Speaker 6: of time. So you know, he cannot say, oh, no,
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Speaker 6: I was completely ambushed. That's absolutely That to me is false,
36:10
Speaker 6: that that cannot be the way. But it's a sad
36:12
Speaker 6: state of affairs when you have to backtrack on your
36:16
Speaker 6: commentary because your own personal opinion does not suit that
36:20
Speaker 6: of yours.
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Speaker 14: That of your employers.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm assuming that's exactly what happened, Lisa Godard, what
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Speaker 1: do you make of it?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Andrew I was going to say exactly the same
36:29
Speaker 10: thing that Danika did. When you listen to that, it sounds.
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Speaker 9: Like he's reading it word for word.
36:34
Speaker 10: You can tell when somebody's reading off a script and
36:36
Speaker 10: where they're actually saying what they think. And look sadly,
36:39
Speaker 10: most people in Australia won't take the time or have
36:41
Speaker 10: access to the full video, right, so they won't sit
36:44
Speaker 10: there and actually see that first part where he says, yeah,
36:47
Speaker 10: let's interview each other. He was more than happy to
36:49
Speaker 10: be there. And when I watched this, I thought, you
36:52
Speaker 10: know what, for so long we sit there as conservatives
36:54
Speaker 10: and think, really, am I really see this and hearing
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Speaker 10: this on the ABC, and now we're being told, well
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Speaker 10: you actually see and what you actually hear isn't can't
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Speaker 10: be believed. It's actually going to be stepped back because
37:05
Speaker 10: that those opinions can't be shared. So look, I think
37:08
Speaker 10: it's a shame. Charlie Pickering has looks like he's given
37:11
Speaker 10: into whether it's media media attention to say well, you
37:16
Speaker 10: have to back down from this or whether it's told
37:17
Speaker 10: him has been said to him from within the ABC itself.
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Speaker 10: But I just think it's a sad day when you
37:22
Speaker 10: can't stand up and actually say what you believe and
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Speaker 10: stand by it.
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Speaker 1: Denika, I'm really struck by this sudden rise, I mean,
37:32
Speaker 1: overnight success after thirty years of Pauline Hanson, right, it's
37:36
Speaker 1: just as stuns when you think she's been jailed under
37:39
Speaker 1: false charges, she's been vilified by the media, treated as
37:43
Speaker 1: a as suddenly she's leading the most popular party in
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Speaker 1: Australia in the polls. What do you put it down to?
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Speaker 6: Well, Pauline Hanson has not changed her position since she
37:55
Speaker 6: entered politics back in the nineties. The difference is Australia
37:59
Speaker 6: has changed since then. And I truly believe that that
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Speaker 6: change really began after the Bondai massacre. I think that
38:07
Speaker 6: for a long time there was the silent Australians, as
38:10
Speaker 6: we say, who are indeed worried about mass migration, who
38:14
Speaker 6: are concerned about this net zero runaway train that we're on,
38:18
Speaker 6: the ideology, the zealotry that we see on a day
38:21
Speaker 6: by day basis. But Bondi changed this country forever, and
38:25
Speaker 6: I think for the first time we saw Australians go,
38:27
Speaker 6: you know what, enough is enough. I'm not going to
38:30
Speaker 6: be silent anymore. And who have they turned to? The
38:33
Speaker 6: one person who has been consistent four years, and that
38:37
Speaker 6: is Pauline Hanson. And look, the party has obviously developed
38:41
Speaker 6: since then, her politics has developed, her style of speaking
38:45
Speaker 6: is vastly better. But I do really just put it
38:49
Speaker 6: down to Australia has changed. And the thing is is
38:51
Speaker 6: that Labor and the Liberal Party have not caught up
38:54
Speaker 6: with the changing face of Australia and Pauline Hansen is
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Speaker 6: streets ahead of them. So no surprises that. Yeah, people
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Speaker 6: are saying this is the party that I would vote for.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting to say about her speaking. I've noticed that
39:09
Speaker 1: she has lost and I don't think it's that long
39:13
Speaker 1: ago that she lost it. That shakiness to a voice
39:17
Speaker 1: that made us seem nervous and unsure of herself. It's
39:21
Speaker 1: much stronger now. It's the most interesting. But what do
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Speaker 1: you put it all down to?
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Speaker 10: Lisa Well Andrew and I think you're right. I think
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Speaker 10: that shakiness that's left her voice it comes down to
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Speaker 10: confidence because I know they say that whatever's happening in
39:34
Speaker 10: the polls. They're not sort of responding to that that
39:37
Speaker 10: they're listening to the people on the street. But you
39:39
Speaker 10: have to look at those poles and if you were
39:41
Speaker 10: Pauline Hansen for the first time in nearly thirty years,
39:44
Speaker 10: she's vindicated as Partrician Cabala said, it's legitimized the one
39:49
Speaker 10: nation vote. And so I think average Australians who have
39:51
Speaker 10: quietly supported one nation or have watched what she's been
39:54
Speaker 10: saying and there now seeing it all come to fruition,
39:57
Speaker 10: now have permission. If you liked at you speak up
39:59
Speaker 10: and say yeah, yes, we need change, and Pauline Hansen
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Speaker 10: actually represents that change. We all know she's in the Senate,
40:05
Speaker 10: so unless she becomes an MP, she can't become Prime minister.
40:08
Speaker 10: But I tell you what, you only have to look
40:10
Speaker 10: at the language now and the messaging now from Albanesi
40:14
Speaker 10: and from the Liberal Party and from the NATS to
40:17
Speaker 10: really understand how much of a threat they think that
40:20
Speaker 10: she is because they are now seeing the average astrain
40:23
Speaker 10: not frightened anymore to say, you know what, Pauline Hanson
40:27
Speaker 10: actually says what I think and I'm not some sort
40:29
Speaker 10: of pariah in society. For thinking that and for saying it.
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Speaker 1: I think you touched on something there about the legitimizing.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting that her popularity has brought her immunity because
40:44
Speaker 1: no politician now of a major party dares to call
40:49
Speaker 1: her racist, I think, not to her face, not right
40:53
Speaker 1: straight out like that, because they will be calling racist
40:57
Speaker 1: the thirty one percent of Australians who vote for her,
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Speaker 1: and they don't want to offend them. It's most interesting
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Speaker 1: she's brought itself some immunity. Lisa got Dannikka de Georgia.
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much to you both. After the break
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Speaker 1: the US Vice president, he is now at war with
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Speaker 1: Britain's Prime minister after British priests please handcuffed a dying
41:21
Speaker 1: boy falsely accused of racism. While I've been on air,
41:29
Speaker 1: the Herald Son has dropped a new poll which will
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Speaker 1: be a bombshell. In Victoria, they're going to the polls
41:35
Speaker 1: in November. Do you know one nation now, even in Victoria,
41:40
Speaker 1: is more popular than the Labor government. Even there it
41:43
Speaker 1: is Labour twenty three percent, one Nation twenty five. Fortunately
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Speaker 1: for the coalition, they're highest still than both there on
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Speaker 1: twenty seven. So one nation's really into their vote. They're
41:55
Speaker 1: nearly side by side, but the coalition just the head
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Speaker 1: and two paid. They were beat Labour fifty three to
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Speaker 1: forty seven. I think Jacina Allen almost forty percent of
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Speaker 1: Victorians say in this poll they would have gone Jacenter
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Speaker 1: bye bye, bye bye now cause I will be showing
42:13
Speaker 1: you some distressing footage. Henry Noak has become an international
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Speaker 1: political symbol now. I talked about him last week, how
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Speaker 1: this teenager was stabbed by a British Sikh who falsely
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Speaker 1: accused Henry of having racially abused him. Police were so
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Speaker 1: horrified by that allegation that they handcuffed the dying Henry,
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Speaker 1: who could not breathe and did not handcuff his attacker
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Speaker 1: and caution, as I say, the video is distressing.
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Speaker 7: You've been stabbed whereabouts?
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Speaker 10: Y mate?
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Speaker 1: Well? Now, the US Vice President J. D. Vance Is
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Speaker 1: posted that Henry Noak died the same way as civilization dies, abandoned,
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Speaker 1: handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him,
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Speaker 1: and accused of hate cromes he did not commit. He
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Speaker 1: should still be alive today, and he would be if
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Speaker 1: the last few generations of European elites had stood their
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Speaker 1: ground against the politics of self hatred and the mass
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Speaker 1: invasion of migrants, many of whom despised the West and
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Speaker 1: the people who love it. Britain's Deputy Prime Minister didn't
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Speaker 1: get the big picture here. Who rang Vance to complain?
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Speaker 11: This has got nothing to do with mass migration. This
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Speaker 11: young ma'am was a bread Let's be clear about that.
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Speaker 11: And I said, look, mister Vice President, you're wrong about this.
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Speaker 11: And it's also the case that actually murder is coming
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Speaker 11: down in the United Kingdom.
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Speaker 1: Now David Lemmy is right. You know, the killer was British,
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Speaker 1: but Britain's extreme race sensitivity is one of the prices
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Speaker 1: paid for mass immigration. Jeremy for London his talk TV
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Speaker 1: host Samarak Gil Samara, great to see you. So who
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Speaker 1: is right, the British Deputy Prime Minister or the American
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Speaker 1: Vice President.
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Speaker 9: It's a good question. I usually agree with JD. Vance
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Speaker 9: on everything, but I think on this it's a little
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Speaker 9: bit more dubious than he portrays it to be. You know,
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Speaker 9: I think that it's funny for Vance to go and
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Speaker 9: blame mass migration on everything when he's married to a
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Speaker 9: second generation immigrant, like you know, Usher Vance who is
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Speaker 9: a product of some of the good things that can
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Speaker 9: come out of migration. But majority of his points were
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Speaker 9: quite good.
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Speaker 11: You know.
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Speaker 9: He makes a good point about the fact that and
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Speaker 9: we saw in a Sunday Times report that Hampshire Police
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Speaker 9: actually tried to intervene in the trial and present Henry
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Speaker 9: as the aggressor just days after the murder. And this
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Speaker 9: is the same police force that spent one point six
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Speaker 9: million dollars on inclusion matters programs between twenty twenty one
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Speaker 9: and twenty twenty four, and according to a freedom of
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Speaker 9: information request that we were able to glean, forces across
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Speaker 9: England and Wales spent over twenty million Australian dollars on
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Speaker 9: DEI posts and training in the UK. So what he
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Speaker 9: says about the fact that, you know, this wokery, the
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Speaker 9: virtue signaling that the police force has been indulging themselves
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Speaker 9: in is completely right. But yeah, I don't agree with
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Speaker 9: probably everything, but I think, Lammy, I mean the hypocrisy
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Speaker 9: of that man, which I'm sure we'll get into Andrew.
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Speaker 1: Ah, speaking of which, don't forget I think I do
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Speaker 1: think the DA diversity equity and all inclusions and stuff
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Speaker 1: and all this This is part of the whole industry
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Speaker 1: that comes with the mass immigration and that culture of
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Speaker 1: self hatred of which he also spoke As for JD. Vance,
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Speaker 1: I'm much less of a fan. I'm a Marco Rubio
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Speaker 1: man myself. Prime mister Kis Stamer talking about the hypocrisy.
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Speaker 1: He has complained that Vance is stirring up trouble in
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Speaker 1: Britain's even suggested that the US is trying to interfere
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Speaker 1: in Britain's democracy. But as you say, what a hypocrite
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Speaker 1: were police in America? We're accused of killing the criminal
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Speaker 1: George Floyd during his arrest. His same Keyo Stammer didn't
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Speaker 1: just take a knee, but gave fiery speeches about racism
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Speaker 1: in America.
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Speaker 13: Here is can I start by expressing shock and anger
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Speaker 13: the death of George Floyd? This has shone a light
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Speaker 13: on racism and hatred experienced by many in the US
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Speaker 13: and beyond.
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Speaker 1: So why are the double standards with complaints there about
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Speaker 1: van sticking.
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Speaker 11: His or in.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely I mean David Lammy spent years insulting Donald Trump
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Speaker 9: and somehow seems shocked that Trump's allies don't share his
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Speaker 9: world view and gets on the phone straight away to
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Speaker 9: try and condemn JD. Vance over a tweet. I mean,
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Speaker 9: this is someone who said that Trump was a neo
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Speaker 9: Nazi sympathizer and a woman hating Ku Klux Klan sympathizing
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Speaker 9: sociopath before he then became Foreign Secretary and had to
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Speaker 9: have some very awkward meetings in Washington with the Trump administration.
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Speaker 9: So it is hilarious of Lammy to go and say
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Speaker 9: that he is higher than thou when he's the one
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Speaker 9: who's straight away, as you said, stuck his awe into
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Speaker 9: US politics, started saying that we should all take the
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Speaker 9: knee for George Floyd. You had Angela Rayner and Keir
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Speaker 9: Starmer take the knee shortly after the death of George Floyd,
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Speaker 9: and you also had Labor send over over one hundred
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Speaker 9: delegates to Washington during the twenty twenty five election and
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Speaker 9: try and get sorry twenty twenty four election and try
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Speaker 9: and get Kamala Harris in, which is an insane sort
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Speaker 9: of obstruction of justice in that way that they would
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Speaker 9: now say, oh, yeah, Trump, You're completely wrong about everything,
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Speaker 9: and so are you.
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Speaker 7: JD.
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Speaker 1: Vance.
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Speaker 9: Don't weigh in on our domestic issues. They've spent years
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Speaker 9: weighing in on US politics.
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Speaker 1: And meanwhile there's another grooming going in Yorkshire being jailed.
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Speaker 1: Actually a right gang, to be honest, and once again
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Speaker 1: a very common factor among the guilty. What does his
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Speaker 1: fill you.
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Speaker 4: Look?
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Speaker 9: I mean, the key facts about this is that the
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Speaker 9: victim you know, was groomed and abused from the age
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Speaker 9: of twelve, but unfortunately, you know, it took over twenty
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Speaker 9: years for her to get any sort of justice. And
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Speaker 9: I speak to grooming gang's victims all across the country
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Speaker 9: as part of some of my investigations that I do,
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Speaker 9: and some of them still have to run into their
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Speaker 9: abusers down the street or driving the taxi locally or
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Speaker 9: working at the fish and chip shop, and that is
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Speaker 9: a big.
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Speaker 14: Big bok.
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Speaker 9: There have been institutional problems where many, many people on
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Speaker 9: all rungs of society have turned a blind eye and
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Speaker 9: it is horrific.
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Speaker 1: Andrew again and again you ask why they've turned the
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Speaker 1: blind eye. It is because of this same race industry
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Speaker 1: that sprang up in the wake of this mess immigration
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Speaker 1: and this culture of self loathing. Samara Gil always great
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Speaker 1: to talk to you, Thank you so much. Coming up
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Speaker 1: next is Sherry markson good Night