Latest / Boss Rush Podcast - A Podcast about Video Games / Epic Games Layoffs, DLSS 5 Debate, and Jeff Kaplan Speaks Out
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- 0:24Hello everybody, welcome back to the Bosters Podcast, a great
- 0:26place to play games and be better.
- 0:27I'm one of your hosts, Corey Derrigan.
- 0:28Alongside me, as always, is the PC Must race himself.
- 0:32Laurent Dawkins. Hey everybody, what's poppin?
- 0:35Hey, Laurent, I have a question for you.
- 0:38Hey, what's up? I've AI have a really quick
- 0:41question for you. Yeah, since.
- 0:43Since we're doing this digitally, does that mean I get
- 0:46$10 off our our podcast meeting? You know, depending on depending
- 0:52on what region. Yeah, like depending on what
- 0:54region you're in. Yeah.
- 0:55And also and also, are you a, are we, are you, are you trying
- 0:59to get wooed into resubscribing? Did you?
- 1:03You didn't. You didn't see the Nintendo
- 1:05news, did you? No, I did not.
- 1:06They announced today that starting in May, all of their
- 1:11first party digital games will be $10 cheaper than their
- 1:13physical ones, starting with Yoshi in the whatever coloring
- 1:20bookshelf there whatever Yoshi games coming out.
- 1:23OK, now I know. OK, just just listen to this.
- 1:26I know this is trying to like basically like it's, it's trying
- 1:32to, it's trying to appease the the the physical collector
- 1:35market. I know, I know somehow, but I'm
- 1:38like I'm like how is it more expensive to buy physical than
- 1:43digital even though like how is? It more expensive.
- 1:46Yeah. Because you got to print the
- 1:48print the. Wait a minute.
- 1:50OK, I mean, I mean make the. Box ship it to the store, pay
- 1:53the stores something. I mean, I know the logistics, I
- 1:56know logistics just. Why are you asking?
- 2:00It could make sense I if anything they should be dropping
- 2:03the price overall for everything.
- 2:05So like if if I mean. That's true too.
- 2:07If the digital version is $10 cheaper now, then the physical
- 2:10version should also have been $10 cheaper.
- 2:12It makes it makes no sense. Hey man, I I nothing.
- 2:18Makes sense except for the fact is I bought one of those
- 2:20high-powered like like like super SD cards for the for the
- 2:24for the switch too. So guess what?
- 2:26I'm going to fill that bitch up. Oh the Super Express supercard
- 2:30or whatever Did you see the Mario branded one is like 4
- 2:33times the amount of like a regular standard 1.
- 2:36It makes no sense. It makes no sense, but I mean
- 2:38the. 512 Mario one the 512 gig Mario 1 is like 219 dollars or
- 2:45something ridiculous. I'm like, you know how much I
- 2:49bought my standard black one for at a Walmart $54.00.
- 2:57So if you need that Mario on your memory card that you're
- 3:03never going to see more power to you.
- 3:10Anyways. Hi Leron, how are you?
- 3:12How's how's your week going doing All right?
- 3:15I do not want to. I do not want to mess up the
- 3:20stream talking about my woes tonight because I've, I've got,
- 3:24I've got issues. I've got As a matter of fact, if
- 3:26I ran issues, if I if I, if I ran them off, I would sound like
- 3:30one of those 80s country songs. Oh God.
- 3:34Yeah. 80s country songs. Yup.
- 3:36Hey Nelly, how's it going? Nelly's here, party's here.
- 3:43The party has arrived as they say, so oh hey, you know what?
- 3:51I'm trying to find something in a folder and it's the wrong
- 3:54folder because I'm an idiot. Oh, we can.
- 3:58I can mark clips 00. Yeah, man.
- 4:02Dude, dangerous. Dude I made I made 24 clip 24
- 4:07shorts this week and scheduled them all out.
- 4:12I just saw one of the power block ones.
- 4:13And it was great. It's nice and easy in this
- 4:16program. It's so easy here dude.
- 4:19I'm going to I'm going to make some sort of like master library
- 4:23though for like just to clean them up a little bit in a in a
- 4:27video editing thing that was. That was still anticlimactic.
- 4:30Did you see what? What?
- 4:31I did. I saw something pop up on the
- 4:33screen. I thought it was like.
- 4:33That was something that was still anticlimactic.
- 4:36I was hoping it was going to be more fanfare.
- 4:40Explains a lot about Euler on anticlimactic.
- 4:43Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm such a let down.
- 4:47I'm such a let down. You don't let me down the run.
- 4:51Oh, I'm so happy for that. You know what, Lauren?
- 4:57You know what else I'm I'm happy for?
- 4:59What? What?
- 5:00This next this next episode of Nintendo Pile Blog that's coming
- 5:03out that hasn't been recorded yet that you said you were going
- 5:07to be on, but you're not on yet because we haven't recorded it
- 5:10yet. Yeah, yeah.
- 5:13Did you? Know you know this is the 10th
- 5:14anniversary episode and guess who's not here for it?
- 5:18Oh, I don't know the host for the the the show.
- 5:20Ed won't be on the show. No, he's at PAX.
- 5:22Oh. Why don't you just postpone?
- 5:25Why don't you just postpone the recording for that weekend?
- 5:27Nah, I can't do that. We haven't missed.
- 5:29We haven't missed an episode in two years.
- 5:30We're not doing. That I mean it would make sense
- 5:32though. He wasn't on the first episode
- 5:34so it doesn't matter. Nelly once again, make it make
- 5:37sense, right? But put that in the chat Nelly
- 5:39make it make sense. Ed wasn't on the 1st 4 episodes.
- 5:43OK, but you know, Ed's a fixture now.
- 5:47Yeah, is he? Is he?
- 5:49He's supposed to be. He's something.
- 5:51He's supposed to be no, don't, don't make me become the
- 5:53fixture. Don't.
- 5:57Hey, there's a stretch of time you're on more episodes than I
- 5:59was. Cuz then cuz then everyone's
- 6:01gonna be like, yeah, like La Ron's been like, been like
- 6:04orchestrating this whole thing the whole time.
- 6:07Remember the time? Remember the time when I was
- 6:09actually on like 4 different Boss first network podcasts
- 6:12during the week? Because I was.
- 6:14It wasn't that I was that excited.
- 6:15I just love to be there. I mean, yeah.
- 6:18I was on, I was on, I was on. Why do I keep forgetting the the
- 6:23the Xbox One? Arsenal X.
- 6:26Yeah, I was on Arsenal XI was of course, of course there was
- 6:29Crossroads. I was on the Boss Source podcast
- 6:31and that's and sometimes I was on Nintendo Battleblock.
- 6:33I was that, you know, I was doing.
- 6:35You're going to be on Tower Casual soon too, because of the
- 6:38marathon, yeah. And we hit and back when we were
- 6:42doing standard definition, you know, before there was a thing
- 6:45called after Dark. Like, jeez, I was.
- 6:49Well, the arm's getting around. Yeah, I know.
- 6:51That was a pass around. Yeah, those were the times, huh?
- 6:56Good times. Yeah, it was, it was, it was
- 6:58fun. I I still, I still like it.
- 7:00I still I. I wish, I wish I had the time to
- 7:04do all that again, 'cause it, it was fun, but also certain people
- 7:10in my life don't, don't, I don't know, probably didn't like that
- 7:14I spent that much time on all this.
- 7:16So. There's a, there's a wild part,
- 7:18there's a wild part of, of, of me that's like, maybe it's time
- 7:23to have podcasting and consecration be my job, you
- 7:28know? Well, Leron.
- 7:30But it's wild because I like my real life job, you know, and I
- 7:35don't want to give that up. Well, Leron, that meeting we had
- 7:39but didn't have this weekend that we're supposed to have was
- 7:43kind of about that, but we'll talk about it later.
- 7:50Nobody cares about what we have to say here.
- 7:53They just show up and listen and watch.
- 7:55And I don't know, hate, hate, hate us talking about Marathon.
- 8:01Apparently someone, someone told me that game and someone
- 8:06commented on one of the shorts that said it was that game was
- 8:09gonna fail and that it was Dick's Slop.
- 8:10I'm like, what does that? What does that even mean?
- 8:13If if they had to turn around and if they had to turn around,
- 8:16say like a game is Dick's slop literally a term that I have
- 8:19never heard before That means that means.
- 8:22Hashtag so it must mean something, right?
- 8:25No, no. That means that means that
- 8:27person is suffering from from Dick's slop and they need to go
- 8:30see. They need to go see a
- 8:31proctologist. We've been in a lot of comments
- 8:36about marathon people. People do not like marathon like
- 8:39the error. People like to hate on marathon,
- 8:42I should say, which is look fine with me.
- 8:48I like it. So good on you.
- 8:53I guess if you want to hate on it.
- 8:56I like it. I'm enjoying it quite a bit
- 8:58actually. Although.
- 9:01I did not get to do the cryo archive the special map thing
- 9:07yet so I'm too scared. Why?
- 9:10Why are you scared? Because it's the hard map and I
- 9:14don't have people to play with right now on a regular basis.
- 9:19Oh well, there's that. So those are those are the two
- 9:22reasons. Plus I don't have the gear you
- 9:29have to you have to have a gear kit worth like 505,000 credits
- 9:33or something. And I do not have that either.
- 9:38Not even close. I kind of kind of close, but
- 9:45it's fine. I'll get there someday
- 9:47eventually, maybe someday. Here's the thing.
- 9:51I cannot play for like a week like I haven't and go back and
- 9:56not miss anything. Just like unlike Destiny, 'cause
- 10:00this is just a regular old shooter.
- 10:01You just have to be good at shooting stuff and finding stuff
- 10:04and I'm fine with that. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
- 10:10wait, wait, wait. Hold on in.
- 10:11In the chat, Nelly just Nelly just admitted that Resident Evil
- 10:149 scared her. How so?
- 10:16Did this scare you, Nelly? Resident Evil I heard it's
- 10:21scary. Maybe it is, I don't know, like
- 10:25I played, I played the, I played the opening.
- 10:28I didn't play it at all. I played with, I played with
- 10:32Leon. Badass motherfucking Kennedy.
- 10:36I mean, that's, that's fair. It's Leon, you know.
- 10:40I mean. Did you play with DLSS 5 on
- 10:43though where he's all shiny and. No, I can't 'cause I didn't get
- 10:48AI, didn't get a preview, I didn't get a preview build of
- 10:50that and and I have AI have a sneaking feeling that it's going
- 10:54to be locked behind the RTX 6000 series graphics.
- 10:57No, it's I think the the card the lowest card it works on is
- 11:01like the 5070 I think. The lowest card.
- 11:05OK, so I'm disqualified. I have a four.
- 11:07I have a 4080 super. Well, whose fault's that?
- 11:12Not my fault because it's not seriousness.
- 11:14Because it's not seriousness. I don't think I want it.
- 11:16I don't, I, I don't, I don't want it anyway, you know, and
- 11:19it's not, and it's not because like I'm a detractor of it.
- 11:21I just, I just feel like I, I just, I just feel like I don't
- 11:25need it. I don't need it.
- 11:27Nobody. Needs anything, Lauren.
- 11:29Well, nobody. Nobody true.
- 11:32I didn't need this Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles hat that
- 11:34cost $10 more than every other hat on the website, but I bought
- 11:37it, you know, and it's comfortable.
- 11:44And if it's my head sometimes, all right, Well, you know, we
- 11:52could, we could, we could talk like this all night.
- 11:54But we, we have other things to, we have other things to talk
- 11:57about. Leron, I fixed the dock.
- 11:59Finally, we finally have a run a show dock.
- 12:02Holy moly. What?
- 12:04What'd you do? Jedi Survivor is $7.00 on Steam
- 12:08right now. Oh my gosh dude, it's worth
- 12:10every penny and then some. I would buy it.
- 12:12It's it's, it's so good. I would buy it twice for $7.00.
- 12:18You think I'm kidding, but I'm not.
- 12:20Dude, that game is amazing. It's it's arguably the best Star
- 12:23Wars game ever made. Well, I finally bought.
- 12:26I finally bought Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth cause 'cause cause, oh,
- 12:32you know, what did you see? Did you see Ben Starr versus
- 12:35versus versus Matt Mercer? I did.
- 12:39I don't think I did. The Square Enix 2026 sale.
- 12:43Oh my God, the the campaign for that was oh, it was, it was
- 12:47gorgeous. Let's just put it that way.
- 12:49It was like, man, like these these two guys, like they hammed
- 12:54it up. And what was the line There was
- 12:57the there was a line. OK, first of all, if, if, if Ben
- 13:04Starr, if Ben Starr was was trying to like, you know, not
- 13:07lean into like all the hypersexual stuff that surrounds
- 13:11him. It it it's over now because he
- 13:14said something. I got to I got to I got to find
- 13:17the line. But man, it was something, it
- 13:19was like, man, like I'm like, is this, yeah, no, no, I'm, I'm,
- 13:25I'm for, I'm for real. I'm like, is he, is he, is he,
- 13:28is he pandering to the, to the Moe's 'cause it was, I was like,
- 13:36Oh my, like I, I, I gotta find it.
- 13:38I may have to, I may have to, I may have to mute my mic while I
- 13:42while I find it because I don't want anybody to hear it 'cause I
- 13:45need to repeat it. He has to repeat it, he says.
- 13:50Hold, hold on. Like if, if you if you, if you
- 13:53got any housekeeping stuff to do, do it now while I find this.
- 13:57I mean, I really don't, but I could, I guess.
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- 14:18Eventually, someday, maybe. Yeah, man, I'm running out of,
- 14:24I'm running out of housekeeping. Let me tell you, though.
- 14:28Let me let me tell you what though they're on.
- 14:30Let's talk about what we've been playing.
- 14:33OK. Because I finished a Metroid
- 14:38game. Woo Hoo, you're gonna be proud
- 14:41of me. I beat I beat Metroid 0 mission.
- 14:45Yes, yes. I love that dude.
- 14:48That game's so good. It's such it's arguably the best
- 14:51looking Metroid game in my opinion.
- 14:57It's incredibly good looking. Uh oh, here he goes.
- 15:01OK. He's meeting himself.
- 15:03OK, so First off he starts with celebrated mouth for hire.
- 15:09Well, he he is a celebrated mouth for hire.
- 15:12What? What's what's so dirty about
- 15:15that, Laurent? You know, you know, you know.
- 15:19I I know nothing, I just work here.
- 15:24Yeah, hold on, hold on, hold on. It's coming, It's coming.
- 15:28Hold on. That's what she said.
- 15:31I thought that's what he was going to say.
- 15:33He might, yeah. Yeah, like so yeah, like wait,
- 15:40that were foolish enough and in this case desperate enough to
- 15:44once again give me money for the use of my unique combination of
- 15:47tongue lips. Hold on for my unique
- 15:51combination of he said. He said so fast you combination
- 15:55of tongue, lips and vocal cords. What he uses to make money.
- 16:03This this this guy? He's this guy, he's an, he's an
- 16:10expert at that. You know, he's, he's good at it.
- 16:13Song lips and vocal cord. What do you want from the man?
- 16:18That he's good at it. He is good at it.
- 16:21He is very good. I just hey, hey, hey, Ben, just
- 16:28just just just stay pretty and, and keep talking to us.
- 16:32Talk, keep talking to us for the next 15 years like.
- 16:37I mean, he's probably going to for a while, so.
- 16:42All right, so back to you achievements.
- 16:45Achievements Oh I I beat I beat Metroid 0 emission.
- 16:51What was your 70? 72%.
- 16:55Not bad, not bad, not bad. So you got to see, here's the
- 16:59thing a little bit under the under the suit.
- 17:01I wanted, so I was trying to like, I wanted to go back and
- 17:05like explore more, but I didn't realize I was at the end.
- 17:10You can't. Well, yeah.
- 17:12Like once you. I forget where.
- 17:15I forget where it's at, but it's right.
- 17:17Yeah. Like, it's like, it's like it
- 17:19flips a switch. Like the moment you get to
- 17:21Taurian, you're done. Yeah, 'cause there's nothing,
- 17:24'cause like the next thing you know, you're in.
- 17:26You're in what? What was, what's the name of the
- 17:29place? Chozodia, Yeah.
- 17:32Which is a brand new. Which is brand new.
- 17:34And then you're doing the puzzle thing and then you get yours,
- 17:37you get the, the Super suit or whatever it's called, I think
- 17:40it's a gravity suit. And then, you know, once you
- 17:44make your way out of there, you somehow like I was making my way
- 17:47out of there. And then I just found myself
- 17:52fighting what metal, metal Ridley or whatever.
- 17:55And then I was then they were like, you're you're done.
- 17:58You won. And I'm like, oh, I wasn't done.
- 18:04I want to keep playing. So I did the thing, Laron.
- 18:09I jumped right into the return of Samus.
- 18:14Now let me tell you not wait. Wait, Wait, wait, wait, wait,
- 18:17wait, wait. Not the not the 3DS version, the
- 18:23Game Boy version. Let me tell you, dude, there are
- 18:28two things that have saved this version because this game is
- 18:32actually pretty fun. But there are two things.
- 18:36One thank God for the Game Boy Color mode, and thank God that
- 18:43the creator of Metroid worked on the Game Boy Color and made a
- 18:46Metroid color scheme for it. Yeah, OK, OK.
- 18:50OK, thank God for the Internet and maps because like even with
- 18:56maps I'm still lost, right? And so like what I've done is
- 19:00like if I get lost at any point, at any point, I just make my way
- 19:06back up through the map to my ship and start from there.
- 19:13Unless I realize, unless I like recognize where I am because
- 19:16I've I've gotten lost so many times, I've started recognizing
- 19:20areas quite really well. I remember bumbling my way
- 19:23through that back. There's only, there's only this.
- 19:26That's that's the main reason why I've only played the Game
- 19:29Boy game and beaten it one time. Like it, like and like.
- 19:33And I've, and I've always been a Metroid fan and I played the
- 19:36original Metroid so much. And of course I've played Super
- 19:39Metroid so much, but I've only played Metroid 2 Samus Returns
- 19:44one time. Ever.
- 19:46Yeah. And so like, So what I've, what
- 19:49I, what I wanted to do, I was like, I want to, I want to jump
- 19:51into Super Metroid, but I, I should probably play the second
- 19:55one first just to be that guy, Ron, just to be that guy.
- 20:01So, so I'm, I'm curious, what are you going to do?
- 20:04You going to, you going to play, you going to play Super Metroid
- 20:07and then you're going to play Metroid Fusion and then what
- 20:10you're going to. After after Super Metroid.
- 20:12After Super Metroid, I'm going to take a little Metroid break,
- 20:16but then I'm going to play Metroid Fusion and Metroid Dread
- 20:19back-to-back. Oh, I was gonna, I was getting
- 20:22ready to ask, are you gonna, are you gonna like just before you
- 20:25play? OK, so you're gonna play Dread?
- 20:26OK, I was gonna, I was gonna ask if you were going to play the
- 20:30game The, the, the DS Samus returns Metroid 2.
- 20:34No, I don't feel like plugging in my 3DS and buying the game.
- 20:38And you know. Oh, you never bought.
- 20:40You never. You never got the game.
- 20:41No dude, once the switch was out my 3DS was toast.
- 20:44Oh, OK, OK, OK. Well, that that makes sense.
- 20:47I never I plus I wasn't like a huge Metroid person anyway,
- 20:52ever. I really I only like really ever
- 20:56enjoyed the original Metroid, which is why I liked Zero
- 20:59Missions so much. But I never finished Zero
- 21:01Mission because I could never figure out that dumb.
- 21:03The Chisodio puzzle because I was stupid.
- 21:07Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing though.
- 21:09Like like like Samus Returns, Metroid 2, like of a lot of the
- 21:16combat conventions from that game are what appears in Dread.
- 21:21Yeah, yeah. So I, I mean, I don't know,
- 21:25maybe I won't take a break after Super Metroid, depends on how
- 21:27Metroid it out I am. But I, I actually am really like
- 21:35finding the process of playing Metroid 2 very, very fun.
- 21:41In a weird way, as frustrating as it is to get lost all the
- 21:45time and like trying to find my way through certain areas, it is
- 21:51incredibly easy once you figure out like, where to go, right?
- 21:55The hardest part of the game is figuring out where to go and how
- 21:58to get back to where you need to go, right?
- 22:00That's the hardest part of the game.
- 22:02Fighting the Metroids is extremely easy because like the
- 22:05whole point in the game is you have to destroy all the Metroids
- 22:08and then you have to escape, right?
- 22:09Like that's, that's the whole premise of the game.
- 22:12So yeah, I don't know. I the the other thing though, I
- 22:17don't really like is like you have to go back to if you want a
- 22:22certain weapon, you have to like go back and get it because once
- 22:25you find a new weapon, it like gets rid of your old ones.
- 22:29So like I had like the wave beam at one point and now I'm now I
- 22:32have like a laser gun or whatever and it's like, I don't
- 22:36know, I kind of like the wave one better.
- 22:38I kind of like the ice beam the best, but you know, it doesn't,
- 22:41it doesn't like allow you to swap weapons.
- 22:44You can only kind of keep one. But I don't know, it's cool,
- 22:49It's fun. I like, I, I like the way the
- 22:51games, the game looks. There's something about that,
- 22:54that that 8.8 bit Metroid aesthetic that's like really
- 22:59charming, but also you play 00 Mission and it's like, Oh my
- 23:05gosh, this is like the best pixel art game I've ever seen in
- 23:09my life. It feels like sometimes in
- 23:11certain areas. I did kind of find it surprising
- 23:15though that in at least so far, and I'm like, according to my
- 23:20map and my guide, I am in the fourth out of six areas.
- 23:26I have not fought in a boss yet. I don't think there are any
- 23:28bosses except for that the mother Metroid or the the Mega
- 23:33Metroid. Response.
- 23:34That's not that's not true. You're how?
- 23:36Wait, you have a Metroid counter, right?
- 23:38Yeah, I think, I think there's 30 Metroid.
- 23:40Don't know. There's 39. 39 OK, OK.
- 23:44How many do you remember having left at this point?
- 23:46I think I have one E1 left. Because there is an area of the
- 23:51game where it's like Metroid heavy.
- 23:53Yeah, it's the, it's the 5th area and I just finished the 4th
- 23:58area according to my map, because it tells you on the map,
- 24:01it tells you where all the weapons and all the Metroids
- 24:03are. So yeah, I don't know, man.
- 24:09It's, it's cool, it's fun. I I don't think it's very
- 24:12difficult. Like I said, like I said, the
- 24:16the hardest part is trying to figure out where to go.
- 24:17Dude, if I had to play this on like the Game Boy Pocket or the
- 24:19regular Game Boy, I would have been like, no way you would
- 24:21have. Lost.
- 24:22You would have lost your mind. There's no way, but I get 6
- 24:26colors now. They're on, so it's fine.
- 24:28You get yellow, orange, red, black, blue and white.
- 24:38That must be nice. I didn't, I didn't have a Game
- 24:40Boy Color version of play of it, Play of it back in the day.
- 24:42So like, yeah, like. Yeah, so it's like the the Game
- 24:47Boy Color, like when you turn it on with a regular Game Boy game
- 24:51in it, if you press the direction on the D pad and then
- 24:55press A, when the game was loading up, it changed the
- 24:58colors of the game. So, you know, if there's a Mario
- 25:03color scheme, A Metroid color scheme, a Zelda, a Zelda color
- 25:07scheme, and a oh geez, I want to say, I want to say Pokémon, but
- 25:12that's not right. There's something, there's
- 25:15another one other one of Nintendo's other big franchises
- 25:20there's a color scheme for. So yeah, it's fun.
- 25:25I'm enjoying it. I am excited to move on to a
- 25:27better Metroid game, but this process has been really fun and
- 25:32interesting. I get the appeal of these games.
- 25:36Like it. It took me a while to understand
- 25:38the appeal of these games, right?
- 25:40Like the let's just get lost and kind of explore and find new
- 25:45weapons and and power ups and stuff.
- 25:47But yeah, man, it's cool. I like it.
- 25:54That's cool. That's cool.
- 25:56I'm kind of I'm. I'm glad you're actually having
- 25:58fun with it. Maybe.
- 26:00Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, Like, like I like
- 26:02I said, I have a fond memory of the game, but the same time,
- 26:04like the memories also marred in the fact that, you know, like
- 26:08that that game was a struggle for me back then.
- 26:11So yeah, it was literally it was it wound up being one of those
- 26:14things where like, you know, yeah, I'm good and foul.
- 26:18I almost wonder if they will ever put it on something modern.
- 26:25I I was going to say the switch or the switch too but I know
- 26:28people hate it when I say oh port stuff to switch so you
- 26:34know. But I would not mind a some sort
- 26:38of port of the 3DS version of that game.
- 26:41I would love a port. I would love a port.
- 26:43A 3DS version. Man, those games have to be
- 26:46coming soon, right? Like I, I don't know, I feel
- 26:48like, I feel like those games have to be coming at some point.
- 26:51I feel like it but also at the same time like I I I I have
- 26:55trust issues. With Nintendo, no way.
- 27:01What do you mean? Whatever do you mean?
- 27:05That's just the way I feel. I'm, I'm, I'm sorry, you know,
- 27:08like, you know, like it's, it's we're way past.
- 27:12Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
- 27:14We're way past that point. Part of me, part of me wonders
- 27:20if they're a ever going to do it, but B, they, they padded
- 27:24that second screen for the Switch and switch to like 2
- 27:28years ago that you attach via USBC to the top of the thing.
- 27:33And a lot of people think that that's what, when DS Virtual
- 27:36Console is going to come over. But I'm like, you're really
- 27:40going to do that and try to, because there's no way 3DS games
- 27:44are going to be on, on the NSO thing, right?
- 27:47Like there's no way. Those games are too new in my
- 27:49opinion. In my, in my opinion, those that
- 27:54service stops with the Wii in the DS at the very latest.
- 27:58You know, I mean, they've already sold all the good Wii U
- 28:01games, so I could put that console on there and buy all the
- 28:06good ones. I mean all the Wii U games
- 28:08except for the two Zelda games everybody wants.
- 28:10Yeah. I don't know, I I just I hope
- 28:16they make a good decision when they port these games over, you
- 28:18know, like anyways, old games, that's what I've been playing
- 28:27and some marathon, but I don't really know what I'll say about
- 28:29it except that it shoot shoots gun shoot real good and game is
- 28:33real scary when you play by yourself.
- 28:37Ron, what are you playing? What are you doing?
- 28:39I took your advice and I got back on front mission three.
- 28:41I'm, I'm almost complete. I, I, I, I'm pretty sure by this
- 28:45weekend I'll have the game. I'll have the game beat at the
- 28:47pace I'm going. Yeah.
- 28:50And like I, and like I said in previous podcasts, I'm only
- 28:53playing 11 mission. So like, 'cause there's two,
- 28:56there's two, there's two, there's two stories, stories,
- 28:59I'm only playing one story. Like this other story I'm
- 29:01playing right now, the Elisa missions is the, is the one that
- 29:04I'm going to like finish and then I'm going to move on
- 29:06because like after this, I really need to like get, get
- 29:10back on Monster Hunter Stories 2 and beat that.
- 29:12So like, I can play Monster Hunter Stories 3.
- 29:15Nice. The season this season, season 3
- 29:19has debuted for Tekken. I it's, it's more of the same.
- 29:26I'm mad that, you know, like they did a rank reset.
- 29:28So like, yeah, I dropped 4 ranks from where I was at.
- 29:31So, so yeah, so I've got to battle my way back up to the to
- 29:34the rank I, I previously attained.
- 29:35So I'm a little little mad, but I'll be all right.
- 29:41I'll be all right. I'm sorry, Laron.
- 29:43No, no, don't be sorry 'cause I never.
- 29:45Dropped rank in my heart. Neither do you, buddy, Neither
- 29:50do you. Oh jeez, I don't know what that
- 29:52means anymore. But yeah, but yeah, like it was
- 29:57it Lasser was kind of a Lasser was kind of a hard week for
- 30:01games for me. Like like, like I want to play
- 30:03games, but I just didn't have the drive to play them like the
- 30:06way I wanted to. So so yeah, these things, these
- 30:09things happen. It's kind of like, kind of like,
- 30:12kind of like sometimes, you know, like when you're in the
- 30:14mood, when you're in the mood to do the thing, but you can't get
- 30:16it up. Yeah, Yeah.
- 30:19And no type of stimulation can get you there.
- 30:21So, you know, I'm just going to go to bed.
- 30:25I'm just going to go to bed. That's.
- 30:27Literally, that's literally how it is.
- 30:29Like like, yeah, I pulled the wrong ally out.
- 30:31Like, you know, I turn it on, you know, like I go through the
- 30:33motions. I'm like, I'm just going to go
- 30:35to bed, hibernate, put it, put it back on the, put it back on
- 30:39the night stand. I I hear you.
- 30:44Been there. Yeah.
- 30:48Did you hear, by the way, Speaking of fighting games, not
- 30:51this fighting game, but did you hear all the the controversy
- 30:55around Alex apparently and Street Fighter 6?
- 30:59Yeah, yeah, I have. I have.
- 31:01It's, it's, it's kind of hilarious.
- 31:02What's going on there? I don't.
- 31:04I don't know my Street Fighter lore, so I don't know exactly
- 31:09how to tackle that conversation. It's weird.
- 31:13To say the least, it's kind of. All I can say is that it's
- 31:18weird. Yeah, yeah.
- 31:21Yeah, it is. I mean, there there's some for
- 31:26those who who have been not paying attention to Street
- 31:31Fighter because like, if you're not into it, why would you?
- 31:34But apparently Alex it married and impregnated his sister or
- 31:40something. Is.
- 31:41Yeah, yeah. Are they really related?
- 31:44Are they adopted? Are they second cousins?
- 31:46I heard at one point like, what's going on?
- 31:48We. Have we have, No, we have.
- 31:50I, I don't, I do not know. Like there was, I used to be, I
- 31:54used to be very deep in the Street Fighter lore.
- 31:55And then like, kind of, I kind of got lost in the sauce after
- 31:58Street Fighter 4, actually not even after Street Fighter 4,
- 32:03around Street Fighter 4, you know, Yeah, it's weird.
- 32:11Yeah, I just, I heard that I'm like this.
- 32:13What? This can't be real.
- 32:15Is this real? And then people are like, oh,
- 32:17it's real. I'm like you.
- 32:18Know cause 'cause you know what, Here's the thing about it,
- 32:20right? This is the year 2026.
- 32:23There we, we, there's no such thing as bad localization.
- 32:27Now there's no such thing. Yeah, it's just man.
- 32:33Yeah, Look, I I understand the culture and stuff is different,
- 32:37but Dang, that's just kind of. Yeah.
- 32:40I think I'm going to draw the line there.
- 32:43Be like, you know. I mean, it's a good line to
- 32:46draw. It's a firm line to draw.
- 32:51So I don't know. Again, I don't know my Street
- 32:53Fighter lore. Maybe there's something in there
- 32:55I'm missing, which there probably is.
- 32:56There usually is. Yeah, there's something weird or
- 32:59not, there's something we're missing there.
- 33:01There is. I'm telling you, I, I, I don't
- 33:04know if I need to know more. Anyways, are you, are you
- 33:11watching anything? Are you, are you doing anything
- 33:13else besides you're you're always watching Star Trek or
- 33:16something that didn't that show just get cancelled?
- 33:19Yeah, man, I. This the CW1?
- 33:23Somebody called CW slot trek. OK.
- 33:25So yeah, like, OK, so first of all, yeah, like Starfleet
- 33:30Academy actually turned out to be be a very good show.
- 33:33Like you had. Yeah, like every show, every
- 33:35show in that first season has like some ups and downs, stuff
- 33:37like that. But I feel like, I feel like the
- 33:39UPS kind of outweigh the downs for the most part.
- 33:42But like a lot of a lot, a lot of people in the Trek community,
- 33:45the people who are actually for Star Trek and not just like the,
- 33:48the Boo detractors. Because like it, you know, like
- 33:51it's like it's, it's woke or there's too many, there's too
- 33:54many women and gay people, you know, in positions of power and
- 33:57all, you know. Oh man, you mean something Star
- 33:59Trek's had in it since, I don't know, the very beginning.
- 34:03Well, yeah, maybe not the gay people in the very beginning,
- 34:05but you know. No, but I mean.
- 34:07But yeah, like, you know, like, like, shoot, you had a black,
- 34:10you had a black woman on the bridge who actually had rank and
- 34:12could actually like take command of the ship.
- 34:13Well, she never took command of the ship, but, you know, she had
- 34:16the, she had the authority to to do stuff like that.
- 34:19But yeah, like, so, yeah. So start for the Academy.
- 34:23Start for the Academy just just wrapped, just wrapped recording
- 34:26season 2. And it's been announced that
- 34:28this is going to be the final season.
- 34:30Even though like the, even though like the showrunners were
- 34:33at least were at least working on three seasons of the show.
- 34:36And there's, and there's rumour and from an interview with one
- 34:39with one of the showrunners that, you know, like season 2
- 34:41was going to end in the cliffhanger.
- 34:43Well, now, well, now the show is like, now the show is rap, rap
- 34:47filming and stuff like that, you know, and now it's in, now it's
- 34:50in post production. Are we about to get a Star Trek
- 34:53show cancelled on a cliffhanger or ended on a cliffhanger?
- 34:58It it's, it's, it's, it's, it's weird.
- 35:00It's bizarre. These companies just don't know
- 35:04how to take care of these IPS man.
- 35:06They don't. Well, they Well, yeah, there's
- 35:08that. OK, so, so the marketing for
- 35:10Star Trek Star for the Academy probably didn't do it any favors
- 35:14because a lot of people really did walk in there thinking it
- 35:16was Star Trek 9-O21-O. They probably did even I even, I
- 35:20was like, you know what? I'm a Trekkie.
- 35:22I'm definitely going to watch it.
- 35:23But even I was even, I was like, what's what, what is this?
- 35:27Like, I'm going to watch it, but what is this?
- 35:29Like it doesn't have an identity and you know, like.
- 35:31The thing is this like this, this was the one that I'm like,
- 35:34I might jump into this. This seems like a a show that I
- 35:37would watch. Yeah, I think and that's, and
- 35:40that's the crazy part, right? Like, like there are people,
- 35:44there are people who are who are coming into the coming into the
- 35:46community and they're like, hey, I just got through watching Star
- 35:49for the Academy and it was actually really good.
- 35:51Now I'm going back and watching the older Star Trek stuff.
- 35:55Yeah. Yeah.
- 35:58So. So it's it's it's it's it's it's
- 36:01interesting. You know, I enjoyed Season 1.
- 36:04I was definitely looking forward to like, Season 2.
- 36:06I'm still looking forward to Season 2.
- 36:07But now it's like, you just can't.
- 36:09You just told us that there's no more of this show coming, you
- 36:12know? So, like, how?
- 36:13How enthusiastic should I be to watch a show that's rumored to
- 36:17end on a cliffhanger? Yeah, it's like, it's like these
- 36:20shows were like, I finally decide to like I'm going to sit
- 36:23down and watch this. I think one one example is that
- 36:28the Cowboy Bebop live action thing on Netflix.
- 36:31I. Was watching, I was.
- 36:33Watching it and I was like halfway through and I'm like,
- 36:36man, I actually kind of really like this show.
- 36:39I'm like really I'm, I'm invested.
- 36:41I mean like I'm invested. And then they're like, oh, we're
- 36:44we're cancelling it. And I'm like, yeah, well then
- 36:47why should I finish watching it? And that was the dumb part too,
- 36:50because they dropped the entire season all at once, which is
- 36:53which Netflix typically likes to do depending on certain shows.
- 36:57Like some shows they'll actually drop like, you know, half the
- 37:00season. Well, that's the thing now,
- 37:02that's the current thing. Now they're dropping half of
- 37:03their season, you know, and then like, you have to come back like
- 37:066 weeks later to watch the other half, you know, or some, or some
- 37:09shows are actually getting the episode by episode treatment,
- 37:12which is Netflix needs to like pick a lane.
- 37:16They, they, they got us used to like the entire season dropping,
- 37:19which in some regards, like I'm, I'm not a binge, I'm not a binge
- 37:23watcher. So you know, like I, so I always
- 37:26like, you know, like take my own pace when like an entire season
- 37:29of a show that I want to watch is out.
- 37:30Because like, I'm, I'm not trying to burn my excuse me, my
- 37:34chair. My chair is doing the thing
- 37:35where like it just lowers. I, I, I don't, I don't bend
- 37:42shows like I like watching them at my own pace and stuff like
- 37:44that. So even when a show like drops
- 37:46the entire season, like I don't watch it all in one one sitting,
- 37:50you know? Yeah.
- 37:52I actually like, I actually like, I actually like when shows
- 37:55are are on the week to week format and stuff like that.
- 37:58It gives me excitement for the next episode especially,
- 38:01especially if and, you know, stop me if, stop me if I sound
- 38:04like a crazy person when they give you a preview for the next
- 38:07episode, I get that excitement, you know, but yeah, like, so,
- 38:14yeah. So like for for example, all the
- 38:16Star Trek shows come out like basically episode by episode.
- 38:20So, you know, like there's always that there.
- 38:22I always have that anticipation. Sometimes they will drop 2
- 38:25episodes. Sometimes like either at the
- 38:26beginning of the season or at the end of the season, they'll
- 38:28drop 2 episodes. And.
- 38:31And I love it. But but number one, they were
- 38:35they were like with with with the Academy being cancelled.
- 38:37It was like it wasn't strong enough in the Nielsen ratings.
- 38:39So I'm like, first of all, the Nielsen ratings only work for
- 38:42stuff that's airing on live television.
- 38:44Why are you on live over the air broadcast television?
- 38:47Why are? You.
- 38:48Why are you using the Nielsen's to so they have?
- 38:51That the size they need for to to even have that be like a
- 38:56barometer is like when was the last time that was even like?
- 39:01Here's here's the thing. Here's the thing, OK, right.
- 39:04So, OK, let's see something here.
- 39:07The Bosphorus network has, has, has nearly 2500 followers, OK,
- 39:14If we were a streaming network and we're putting out the and
- 39:17well, we do put out the Bosphorus podcast every week,
- 39:20right? If we were a streaming network
- 39:21and we use that the logic to a certain extent, nearly 25 for
- 39:29for the podcast to be a success on these metrics, nearly 2500 of
- 39:34our followers would need to be watching the show during that
- 39:39week whenever it drops. It doesn't have to be right then
- 39:41when it drops live. But the that makes no sense
- 39:45because like a lot of people subscribe to these networks to a
- 39:49lot of people subscribe as networks for various different
- 39:51things. Not true.
- 39:52When CBS All Access dropped before it became Paramount Plus
- 39:56a a ginormous follow through was because Star Trek Discovery was
- 40:01premiering. Also a lot of people wait for
- 40:04the whole season to be out before they start watching it.
- 40:06Yes, that. Too binge it, right, Like that's
- 40:09like a huge thing for, you know, that that was like a big thing
- 40:13for Halo, right? Where like the numbers were down
- 40:15until the last episode came out and then everybody watched it
- 40:17and like, yeah, man, talk about a show that nobody liked that I
- 40:21really liked. We both did, I think.
- 40:25Yeah, we, I, I, I enjoyed Halo, but then again, like I think.
- 40:28And they ended on a cliffhanger. Yeah, but then again, I had
- 40:32different I had different person to Halo because like I I'm not
- 40:34invested in the gaming series. So, you know, like this was cool
- 40:38for me. Like I knew I wasn't getting the
- 40:41whole story, like the whole origin story of like, of like,
- 40:44of like, of like the what we have what we have the the we
- 40:49have the. It's the covenant with like,
- 40:52yeah. The covenant, like the flood,
- 40:54the flood was coming. Yeah, all that stuff.
- 40:58You know, I knew we weren't getting a true like organ story
- 41:01that it would be nice if we kind of like at least had like some
- 41:04some some more some some stronger lore based on the game
- 41:07and stuff like that. But at the same time, you know,
- 41:09like I, I enjoyed it for what it was and it was easy for me to
- 41:12get get latched on to it because like I had no real like
- 41:15attachment to like the games. You know, I played Halo, you
- 41:19know, I played Halo coop with a buddy.
- 41:20You know, that was that was that was a fun experience.
- 41:24Then I was back when it was when it was brand new.
- 41:26Like my buddy, my buddy bought an Xbox just so he could play
- 41:29Halo. And he's like play, play with me
- 41:31please, 'cause I don't know if I'll play it by myself.
- 41:33And yeah, like, that was the most fun I've I've had playing a
- 41:37shooter Co-op with someone since since since Perfect Dark.
- 41:43Yeah, I I don't, I like Halo. I'm not like a, I'm not like a
- 41:51super lore person for Halo though.
- 41:53Like I, I don't care that they went off script or whatever.
- 41:55I actually really liked this version of Halo, but.
- 42:00I like what they I like what they did with the I like what
- 42:03they did with the Spartans like you like.
- 42:04Master Cheeks. Well, you know what?
- 42:07Actually, Pablos Rieber's portrayal of Master Chief was
- 42:11not bad at all. And I.
- 42:12Liked it, I thought it was good. Yeah, you know, and also just
- 42:16showing that, you know, like you showing, showing the Spartan
- 42:19program, you know, them plucked up as they were kids and stuff
- 42:21like that. Like I.
- 42:24Which they've done in like those side things for for Halo, like
- 42:29board on to Dawn was like a the prequel movie to Halo four.
- 42:34I think was really good at that. Yeah, yeah, I remember that
- 42:37actually, because I was working game.
- 42:39I was going to Gabe, I was going GameStop at the time when when
- 42:42that when that thing came out. But yeah, but yeah.
- 42:45Wait, was I working games? I remember, I remember something
- 42:48that was basically that was basically like a cinematic
- 42:51attempt at, at, you know, like some, some, some Halo stuff
- 42:54before the new game came out. But yeah, like, but yeah, I was
- 42:58watching, I was watching the Halo series like live, you know,
- 43:00like week to week when it was coming out.
- 43:02And I was, I was paying attention to all the stuff
- 43:05people were saying. And they're saying, oh, this is
- 43:07trash. Like Master P Master Chief
- 43:09doesn't speak. I was like, do you really want,
- 43:11do you really want #1 do you really want a live action show
- 43:14where everybody else is talking except for the hero?
- 43:16I know it's so stupid. It's like and this is going to
- 43:19happen when the the movie comes out too right is like lake
- 43:21doesn't talk well, you really. This is why I.
- 43:25Hope he talks and not just. Dude, I hope the first thing he
- 43:29says is excuse me you Princess, I hope.
- 43:32I hope that's the first thing I will die laughing in the
- 43:35theater. I hope that's the first thing he
- 43:37says. But like the thing too is this
- 43:40is like, you know, I think when you get to that, this is what I
- 43:47was saying with with the Zelda movie is like Link shouldn't
- 43:49even be in it. It should focus around Zelda and
- 43:53the political kind of political war that she that they're having
- 43:58with the Garudo or whatever and the rise of Gannon.
- 44:01And like if Link is in it, he shouldn't even be in it until
- 44:03the very end. Or if it's a trilogy like
- 44:06they're saying, like maybe he doesn't even appear until the
- 44:08last movie or something, or the end of the second movie or
- 44:10something, you know, but. Yeah, but, but yeah, like, I'm,
- 44:17I'm, I'm kind of, I'm kind of hurt.
- 44:19I'm kind of hurt. That's that Star Trek Starfleet
- 44:21Academy, like basically is ending before it really gets a
- 44:24true chance. You know, the second season is
- 44:26probably going to be a really, really strong season because
- 44:29because they'd already said they're going to do some things
- 44:30differently than what they did in season 1 and season one.
- 44:33Season 1, in my opinion was not bad, but I also think there's
- 44:37something else bigger at play going on here.
- 44:39Like I, I feel like with like the, the paramount and you know,
- 44:44like the like, you know, the Warner Brothers stuff, you know,
- 44:46happening, you know, odd stuff. I feel like it's just, well,
- 44:49there already is a regime change because the Ellisons, you know,
- 44:52are, are taking over and stuff like that.
- 44:53But I also feel like it's a, it's another, it's another
- 44:56changing of the guard as far as things go.
- 44:57So cause like A cause like star for the Academy was supposed to
- 45:01be a show that keep us going after the final two seasons of
- 45:04Star Trek, Strange New Worlds happens.
- 45:07We we still got two seasons left of Strange New Worlds.
- 45:10It's season 4 and the final season that's season 5.
- 45:13And Academy was supposed to kind of like keep us going after that
- 45:16and stuff like that. But now it seems like
- 45:18everything's going to end all about the same time.
- 45:20And I don't think there's any new Star Trek announced right
- 45:23now. So I think once again, I think
- 45:27once again, as Trekkies are going to be looking at a Star
- 45:29Trek drought, which I don't know, like based off of, based
- 45:34off the, the BS has been going on with the, with the, with the
- 45:37fan, with the fan community. I don't know, maybe, maybe,
- 45:40maybe it's time to let it die, You know, for now.
- 45:43Like, you know, maybe, maybe people will be more appreciative
- 45:46of what, what comes back, you know, afterwards and stuff like
- 45:48that. I don't know.
- 45:50I'm, I'm just, like I said, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm,
- 45:53I'm not upset. I'm just, I'm just hurt.
- 45:56Yeah. No, I I get it.
- 45:58I understand. Yeah, I did start watching, I
- 46:01did start watching that show Paradise with Sterling K Brown.
- 46:05It's it's it's yeah, just got renewed for another season and
- 46:09stuff like that. It's actually pretty good.
- 46:11Like, I mean, you know, without, without spoiling a lot of the
- 46:13plot, basically, you know, Sterling Kane Brown plays plays
- 46:16a member. I believe it's a Secret Service
- 46:19because basically he is he is on a on on a watch duty for the for
- 46:23the president United States. And this isn't a post
- 46:25apocalyptic time. Something something's gone down,
- 46:28which I'm not going to, I'm not going to spoil for anybody.
- 46:30You're going to find out. But yeah, like, it's actually,
- 46:34it's actually pretty good. Yeah.
- 46:37For you people are like that, like animated shows and stuff
- 46:39like that. Like my roommate turned me on to
- 46:41this show called Primal by by by Samurai Jack, Powerpuff Girls
- 46:45creator Gindi Gindi Tarkovsky. And Primal basically follows a a
- 46:50caveman who who who joins forces with a with a dinosaur.
- 46:56They, they both have a tragic origin and is basically, first
- 47:01of all, there's no dialogue in the show besides like just the
- 47:04roars and the grunts and all that stuff.
- 47:06You know, there's no dialogue from the show.
- 47:08So basically you have to you have to be, you have to be
- 47:11dialed in and watch and watch the watch the show.
- 47:16It's in the third. Actually, the third season just
- 47:18wrapped. Yeah, the third season just
- 47:20wrapped the show. I'm on season 1 and I'm on
- 47:22season the fifth episode of season 1.
- 47:25And man, like it is, it is amazing.
- 47:27First of all, I think this is probably Tarkovsky's best
- 47:31project, and that's coming from watching Samurai Jack and and
- 47:36Symbionic Titan and what's crap. There was another, there's
- 47:41another one I like. I like The Powerpuff Girls, but
- 47:45you know, Powerpuff Girls is not my thing.
- 47:47You know, like I. It's totally his thing, guys.
- 47:51Yeah, but, but yeah, but yeah, this is, this is.
- 47:55Are you a puff hurler on? No, no.
- 47:58And and before you even asked, I've never been a brony.
- 48:02I I wasn't going to ask that, but.
- 48:04Yeah, yeah, but but yeah. So this I feel like this is best
- 48:08project. If you have if you guys haven't
- 48:10seen primal disease, you have access to HBO Max, Go ahead and
- 48:13check that out. Speaking of Speaking of HBO Max,
- 48:17I am currently watching season 2 of the pit.
- 48:19The pit is the Pit was like one of the best shows I watched last
- 48:23year, the first season of it and like it's it's good.
- 48:26It's I like procedural shows, like particularly medical drama
- 48:30shows. And this is, and this is not
- 48:32some some, some some Grey's Anatomy like nonsense.
- 48:36This is, this is legit like, you know, medical emergencies and
- 48:39crises and stuff like that. That's some Grey's Anatomy I've
- 48:46I've also been watching a show, Lauren.
- 48:48What show? Well, first of all, Daredevil
- 48:51came back this week, so I'm very excited to watch.
- 48:52That. That's right.
- 48:54It did, yeah. I've so my son has been really
- 49:00into Power Rangers. We've talked about that.
- 49:02Go go, Power Rangers. And so I've decided to, I've
- 49:06been watching. I've been watching it from the
- 49:08very beginning. So I'm on seas.
- 49:12I guess it would technically be season 6 or 7.
- 49:16You're watching the original old school Power Rangers.
- 49:19I don't know if I can go. Back.
- 49:20So here's the thing. I watched.
- 49:23So I watched all three seasons of the Mighty Morphin Power
- 49:27Rangers. By the way, did you know there's
- 49:2850 episodes a season? Yeah.
- 49:32For that, for that show. I knew that.
- 49:35It's like, Oh my gosh. That's why do you think why do
- 49:37you think it was so easy? Why do you think it was so easy
- 49:39for him to get get get that pick that up over here in the States
- 49:42like? I know, I know.
- 49:43I just, it's just like, Oh my gosh, 50 episodes of season is
- 49:46crazy because I mean, they were only on set for 8 minutes of
- 49:49episode, so like, you know what I mean?
- 49:53Yeah, you could get 3 episodes, the equivalent of 1 episode and
- 49:57three episodes from them. But and then there was the
- 50:02interstitial season, which I don't know if they count that as
- 50:04season part of season 3 or it's own season, The Alien Rangers.
- 50:10Which? Was it was the season they did
- 50:12where they, like the Power Rangers lost their powers and
- 50:16were turned into little kids essentially.
- 50:20Not like the reason they did that interstitial season was
- 50:24because they were, they had literally run out and reused
- 50:27footage from the Japanese show for three seasons.
- 50:32And so like they were in each season of the Japanese shows,
- 50:35only one season, by the way. And they reused that footage so
- 50:40many times that they were trying to figure out what to do.
- 50:43And so like the the next iteration of Power Rangers was
- 50:46Zeo, which I watched like part of it when I was growing up, but
- 50:51then I stopped, I don't know, probably got distracted for
- 50:55something else or something, but I watched it.
- 50:58Zeo was really good. I actually was like shocked at
- 51:01how great Zeo was. And then it goes from Zeo to
- 51:07Turbo, which is like the worst thing I've ever watched in my
- 51:11life. So I was, I was going to say the
- 51:15main reason why I lost track of Power Rangers is because Power
- 51:18Rangers, Power Rangers was, was becoming a thing when I was
- 51:20graduating high school. And and so like Power Rangers
- 51:24was like strong for like maybe like a year or two, like while I
- 51:27was still in high school. And then I graduated high school
- 51:29and I immediately joined the military.
- 51:30So like all that training and stuff, I lost track of the show.
- 51:36Yeah, so like, I, I, I watched all of Turbo because I was like,
- 51:40Oh my gosh, I'm going to watch this.
- 51:42And I hate it already. It sucks because they're,
- 51:45they're like, they're robots, right?
- 51:47Like they go from dinosaurs to samurais to shoguns to like, you
- 51:54know, whatever the Zeo thing is, it's like a giant ninja kind of
- 51:57thing. And it's like, that's cool,
- 51:59right? But then they go to race cars.
- 52:02Yeah, OK, that was weird. I heard about that.
- 52:04That one was weird. And then like the movie that
- 52:07they did, it was supposed to be like the transition episode from
- 52:11Zeo to Turbo and they and like nobody saw the movie.
- 52:16So like wait which? Movie.
- 52:18The Power Rangers Turbo movie. And.
- 52:22It was like nobody saw it, so like everybody was confused when
- 52:26they changed suits and powers and wondering why there's this
- 52:31kid in the on the team now. As they should.
- 52:36But then we get to then we get to Power Rangers in space,
- 52:40Laron, and let me tell you. I had no idea that was a thing.
- 52:45Power Rangers in Space might actually be the best season of
- 52:50Power Rangers that I've watched so far.
- 52:53No kidding. It, it's, it gives me like,
- 52:57yeah, there's like, it's like, it's still like a monster of the
- 52:59week thing and there's still like a, you know, it's still
- 53:02really cheesy and whatever, but it gives me like Firefly vibes.
- 53:08Oh. They like, go on missions, they
- 53:11go to like. Wait, you actually, you actually
- 53:13watched Firefly? Yeah, I did not know that.
- 53:17I I I figured, I figured, I figured that was definitely a
- 53:21show that you would never have. Watched No, I I watched it was
- 53:24on Netflix and like it was only 13 episodes or something right
- 53:28So like I just. Everything sounds about.
- 53:30Right. Yeah, I, I watched it because
- 53:31everybody said it was amazing. It was on Netflix right around
- 53:34the time like The Avengers came out and everybody's like still
- 53:37liked Joss Whedon. And I watched it.
- 53:43It was, it was good. But like this season is really
- 53:46giving me that type of vibe of like space travel and like doing
- 53:51weird quirky things on these different planets.
- 53:53And like, there's actually like a story behind the entire
- 53:57season, right? Instead of just like a monster
- 53:59of the week thing like the old Power Rangers show was.
- 54:02OK. That's kind of that's kind of
- 54:04interesting. It kind of sucks though, because
- 54:07like it definitely pulls from those old seasons of like you,
- 54:12if you didn't watch them and don't know what's going on, then
- 54:15you're kind of like, oh, who's this guy?
- 54:18How long? How long was Rita the bad guy?
- 54:21Rita Repulsa How long was she the bad guy?
- 54:24Three seasons all through. Well, it was her the first
- 54:28season, yeah. And then the second season it
- 54:30was kind of a mix of her and Lord's Ed, which was like the
- 54:33red guy with the cool looking grill helmet.
- 54:35Wasn't wasn't she like once she didn't wind up becoming she was
- 54:39like a henchman of Lord's Ed or. Something they got married in
- 54:42the show and like she like put a love spell on him because he was
- 54:47like trying to make her a henchman and so she put like
- 54:51gave them a love potion. They got married.
- 54:52OK, see. That's just I knew.
- 54:54I knew henchman was something part of it.
- 54:57Yeah. And then then after that, it was
- 55:02the in the Zeo season, it was the Clockwork Empire, which is
- 55:07like a hold. All the enemies were made out of
- 55:11like clock parts. Which was so so basically
- 55:15steampunk. Yeah, essentially.
- 55:19And then Turbo was just like it. It kind of sucks because they
- 55:24wasted some really good characters in Turbo.
- 55:27Like Diva talks is the new villain in Turbo and she's in in
- 55:31space also. But like it had like this weird
- 55:34submarine theme to it, but like man.
- 55:41And like the Phantom Ranger was cool, was a cool character
- 55:44because you never really figured out who it was.
- 55:46And like, the Blue Sentinel character was like the space cop
- 55:50that came in from time to time, but you never really figured out
- 55:53who any like who they were, you know?
- 55:57But yeah, in space is actually like, it's really good.
- 56:01I'm actually surprised at how much I'm enjoying it because
- 56:06when when turbo came on the first time around, like when it
- 56:09was new, I was like, I'm out, I'm out.
- 56:11I have no interest in cars. Like, there's only one remaining
- 56:15original cast member left. I'm done.
- 56:18Holy shit there was like there's nearly 1000 episodes of the
- 56:20show. Power Rangers, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 56:24They're they just put out new episodes up until like 2023.
- 56:29Yeah, 30 seasons, 977 up episodes.
- 56:33Yeah, my son really likes Dino Fury and Cosmic Fury, which were
- 56:36the last three seasons. And then we watched the movie
- 56:41The Once and Always. Forever.
- 56:45Yeah, I just, I just saw a listing for that.
- 56:47It was OK, it was fine. It it it's kind of hard to do
- 56:50when like one of the character or two of the characters are
- 56:54dead and two of them don't want to come back.
- 56:57So like, it's kind of weird, but whatever, it was fine.
- 57:03It was, it was nostalgia, right? I mean, it was fine, but you
- 57:07know, I mean, the, the guy that played this is the green Ranger,
- 57:10you know, committed suicide and the original yellow Ranger died
- 57:15in a car accident. So.
- 57:18Hey, hey, Nick, what's up? Nick's here.
- 57:23Ivan News. Yeah, from the movie.
- 57:25That was that movie. Not Canon, by the way.
- 57:27Officially not Canon. Apparently it's Canon in the
- 57:31Multiverse Saga, the the Shattered Grid Saga, as you
- 57:35might call it. Ivan News, which is the comic
- 57:37book saga. Ivan News is not Canon to the
- 57:40series. I didn't know that.
- 57:42Show. I always thought he was.
- 57:44I always thought he was like, maybe it was like a big bad.
- 57:47Nope, that whole movie is not Canon.
- 57:51Wow. Which is hilarious.
- 57:54Wow. Yeah, it's funny because like
- 57:58everything they do in the movie, like getting the new powers and
- 58:00the new Zords or whatever, the next season of Power Rangers
- 58:04after the movie came out is literally all about them getting
- 58:07their new powers and stuff, and it happens totally differently.
- 58:12OK. The Burger King toys were lit.
- 58:17Yeah, they were, man. They were the Zords.
- 58:19And you put the little Power Rangers in the in the Zords.
- 58:21It was awesome. I had them all.
- 58:23It was awesome. I remember, I remember I got the
- 58:28got the white Ranger 1st and I was like, I'm done.
- 58:30This is all I need. It's all I Dean.
- 58:34Oh. My God y'all I'm so sorry I
- 58:36can't stop yawning like I'm actually I'm actually into the
- 58:38show what I can't stop yawning for.
- 58:40Some dude. It's I.
- 58:41It's, I know. Hey, at least we don't, Hey, at
- 58:48least we don't have the peanut gallery like being pissed
- 58:50because like, you know, like, you know, like, like, like,
- 58:53like, like somebody's watching something on their second screen
- 58:57and, you know, like this person's looking down, so
- 58:59they're obviously playing video games or on their phone, you
- 59:02know, like think. I banned all those people from
- 59:04our channel by the way. Go.
- 59:06Whoa. Really.
- 59:07Yeah. Good.
- 59:07Good. Good.
- 59:08I'm not going to. I'm not upset about that.
- 59:11I'm not either, but other people were.
- 59:13So I just kind of, I was like. You know what?
- 59:16Yeah. You know what?
- 59:17Fuck them. Yeah, comments.
- 59:20The comments don't hurt from people I don't know.
- 59:22You know what I mean? Yeah.
- 59:24Now, Lauren, if you were to say that to me, I would be like.
- 59:29Hey Corey, stop looking at your second screen.
- 59:31Stop it. I'm sorry you're on the second
- 59:33screen. Really.
- 59:39You're on my main screen, so I've got all 40, yeah.
- 59:41But you have like a super ultra wide IMAX 3D screen in front of
- 59:47you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 59:55We had some, we had some, we had some, some very angry.
- 59:58I don't even know if they were, we can consider them viewers.
- 1:00:01We had some very angry people that just did their best to
- 1:00:04like, to like to like to like tear us down anytime they could.
- 1:00:08Like the but the crazy part was is like, is like, is like I
- 1:00:13actually tried to engage them. I tried to meet them where they
- 1:00:15were at and they were just like whatever whatever your your
- 1:00:19joke. Yeah, you're dumb.
- 1:00:24Yeah, we are PC gamers. Nerds PC game.
- 1:00:32Look, hey, look. Hey, look.
- 1:00:34My PC gives 3000. Dollars on a stick of RAM.
- 1:00:37My PC gives me all sorts of pleasure, thank you very much.
- 1:00:40I'm sure it does. My PC My PC was the original
- 1:00:52Xbox before there was an Xbox. And that's fair.
- 1:00:57I mean to be fair Xbox is just APC now so RIP Xbox.
- 1:01:06Here's here's the question though as as APC gamer though,
- 1:01:09like is it innuendo when I say hey want to come over and play
- 1:01:12with my Xbox? No, no it is not.
- 1:01:22All right, let me, let me, let me stop being a creep.
- 1:01:26LeBron, tell me what's coming out this week.
- 1:01:29Why yes, let's see. Well, first of all, you know,
- 1:01:33like welcome to our segment called On the DL, basically
- 1:01:38games that are hitting the digital storefront this week.
- 1:01:41So DL for download. There you go.
- 1:01:44All right, so you. Switch players enjoy $10 off if
- 1:01:47you're buying digital. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:01:49So let's let's get into this, right.
- 1:01:51Let's see on the 31st of March, we have Legacy of Cain
- 1:01:56Ascendance actually doesn't like we have pricing details for that
- 1:02:01one. It's only it's only available in
- 1:02:03that weird bundle right now. You have to buy the Defiance
- 1:02:07remastered bundle that's 4499 to get it.
- 1:02:11Phosphorus. Duke Nukem.
- 1:02:12Oh, why? Because I'm always wearing tight
- 1:02:14shirts. Is that is that why?
- 1:02:16Hey, don't forget Randy Pitchford compared Duke Nukem
- 1:02:19Forever to Half Life, okay? So yeah, it's.
- 1:02:24True. That, yeah, it's totally true.
- 1:02:27Totally True Legacy and Kane Ascendance comes out March 31st.
- 1:02:31In this game you enter The Dark World of Nosgoth.
- 1:02:34Ascendance is fast is a fast-paced 2D action platformer
- 1:02:37built around fluid combat, vertical movement, vampiric
- 1:02:40powers and skill driven play. It's available on PlayStation,
- 1:02:44Xbox Series, Switch and on the PC via Steam.
- 1:02:49The Weaver's Edition of South of Midnight is also available on
- 1:02:53March 31st from the creators of Contrast and We Happy Few.
- 1:02:58The award. Running South of Midnight is a
- 1:02:59spellbinding third person action adventure game set in the
- 1:03:02American Deep South. As Hazel, you'll explore the
- 1:03:05mythos and encounter creatures of the Southern folklore in the
- 1:03:08macabre and fantastic world. When disaster strikes your
- 1:03:12hometown, Hazel is called to become a Weaver, a magical
- 1:03:15mender of broken bonds and spirits.
- 1:03:17Imbued with these new abilities, Hazel will confront and do
- 1:03:20dangerous creatures, untangle the webs of her family's shared
- 1:03:24past, and, if she's lucky, find her way to a place that feels
- 1:03:28like home. It it'd be available for
- 1:03:30PlayStation 5 and switch to for the very first time for and it's
- 1:03:35coming out at 40 bucks U.S. dollars.
- 1:03:37So yeah, pick it up. Can't wait.
- 1:03:40I'm excited to play that, all right, Even though I have Game
- 1:03:42Pass, so I'm not. I don't have Game Pass anymore.
- 1:03:46Actually. I lied.
- 1:03:47Yeah, I'm letting whatever the I'm letting my my game pass
- 1:03:50lapse. I'm letting it lapse whenever,
- 1:03:51whenever it ends. Like unless, unless of course,
- 1:03:54like because, because cool thing about my job is I built, I, I
- 1:03:57build new PCs for people and sometimes, sometimes those
- 1:04:01builds, I get a one to three month free trial of X of, of
- 1:04:04Xbox Game Pass PC. You don't.
- 1:04:06Get you? Don't give it to your customers,
- 1:04:08that's rude. Some of them, most of the times
- 1:04:11they're not gamers. Like actually a lot of PCs that
- 1:04:13I've been building lately have not been gaming PCs.
- 1:04:16A lot of them, a lot of them have mainly been used just for
- 1:04:19work. And guess what?
- 1:04:20I'm not going to empower somebody that's supposed to be
- 1:04:23working their nine to five job, you know, the ability to play
- 1:04:25video games. No, what what type of what type
- 1:04:28of IT coordinator would I be if I did that?
- 1:04:31A. A.
- 1:04:32Fun one. I just work from home playing
- 1:04:35playing on the Xbox game pass like OK I'll.
- 1:04:41Play these games for you while you work.
- 1:04:45Yep, exactly. All right, on April 1st, Goat
- 1:04:48Simulator 3, it's back, It's back.
- 1:04:52It's batter, it's batter. Yep, take life by the horns in
- 1:04:57Goat Simulator 3A sandbox game with one main goal 'cause as
- 1:05:01much chaos as possible as a goat Venture 4th into Goat Simulator
- 1:05:063, the BA. Brilliant sequel to 2014 Goat
- 1:05:11Simulator that puts you back in the hooves of Pilgoor the Goat.
- 1:05:16It really bothers me that there's not a second game like
- 1:05:18this is the second game, are you?
- 1:05:21That's the joke. That's the joke is that it's
- 1:05:24Goat Simulator 3, but it's the third.
- 1:05:26It's the second game. So what did they announce 2
- 1:05:30years ago at The Game Awards that was not Goat Simulator 3,
- 1:05:33but it was definitely a sequel to Goat Simulator.
- 1:05:35It was this three. It was good.
- 1:05:37So this year 3. So this is finally coming out.
- 1:05:40This is what you're telling me? Well, it's been out on other
- 1:05:42platforms. It's coming to Switch 2 for the
- 1:05:44first time. Oh, oh, oh, see, I didn't get
- 1:05:46that far. I didn't get that far.
- 1:05:47I was thinking Amazon that that it wasn't out yet.
- 1:05:50OK, all right. So anyway.
- 1:05:53So anyway, begin your whirlwind adventure on the on on the
- 1:05:56sandbox island of San Angora, lick head butt and crash your
- 1:06:00way through an open world full of quests to solve, C percent
- 1:06:04uncovered, and NPCS to terrorize.
- 1:06:05We won't tell you how to play accepting a tutorial, but
- 1:06:09provide the means to be the goat of your dreams.
- 1:06:12And yes, it's coming to Switch to on April first.
- 1:06:15You know what? So let me switch this around
- 1:06:17now. Coming on April the 2nd to
- 1:06:20PlayStation 5, Xbox Series, consoles, the Switch and PC via
- 1:06:23Steam is Darwin's Paradox. Dive into the world of the Dive
- 1:06:27into adventure with Darwin and Octopus as endearing as he is in
- 1:06:31genius. Torn from the ocean and trapped
- 1:06:33in a vast and mysterious industrial complex, harnessed
- 1:06:36his unique talents and abilities to help him uncover many of the
- 1:06:39dangers and the many dangers and traps in this cat.
- 1:06:43Captivating. There you go, captivating
- 1:06:46platformer adventure game. Guess what?
- 1:06:47You get to beat the Solid Snake as an octopus.
- 1:06:51Darwin's Paradox is coming out for $25 on on the platforms I
- 1:06:55mentioned, PS Five, the Xbox Series, Switching PC, and in
- 1:06:59rounding out the first week of April coming to the PlayStation
- 1:07:045. The Nintendo Switching PC is
- 1:07:06Motion Wreck, which. Motion Wreck is a recording
- 1:07:11puzzle recording puzzle action game where you progress through
- 1:07:13stages by recording and playing back your movements.
- 1:07:17Is available for 999 U.S. dollars, or 1599 if you get the
- 1:07:21digital soundtrack edition that's included.
- 1:07:25There you have it. Honestly, I would my pick my
- 1:07:30picks for my picks for the for this for the upcoming releases
- 1:07:33will probably be South of midnight.
- 1:07:34If you haven't already played it, definitely play it.
- 1:07:37Definitely you you want to check this out.
- 1:07:39I am curious how actually it should play just fine on the
- 1:07:42Switch because like it like it's, it's a, it's a beautiful
- 1:07:45game, but the but it's not a it's not a heavy game, if that
- 1:07:49makes sense. Yeah, I I also am really happy
- 1:07:52that they allow you to turn the stop motion features off while
- 1:07:56you're playing because it's the cutscenes are in stop motion,
- 1:07:59right. So yeah.
- 1:08:02That was the part that turned me off when they when they
- 1:08:04announced it because I was like, man, this game looks this game
- 1:08:06looks terrible. Like is this a work in progress
- 1:08:09what they were showing us and kind of find out like it was an
- 1:08:11actual feature? Yeah, and which is probably why
- 1:08:15they allow you to turn that off, because people were confused
- 1:08:19like why is this running so bad? Yeah, yeah.
- 1:08:22But I would say I, I would say for sure check out stop at
- 1:08:24midnight if you hadn't had a chance.
- 1:08:25And also at that price tag, it is definitely worth it.
- 1:08:28And then a legacy of Kane ascendance because we need more
- 1:08:31legacy of Kane in our lives. And hopefully and hopefully and
- 1:08:34hopefully like they're the re releases of all these games have
- 1:08:37has basically put in there that we need a new Legacy of Kane
- 1:08:40game. You think we're gonna get one?
- 1:08:41You think we're gonna get a new one?
- 1:08:43Who owns that now? It's.
- 1:08:44It's it's, it's 5050. It's who owns that now that
- 1:08:47we'll get that, we'll get it that we'll get a new one.
- 1:08:52I think Embracer owns it now. Then we might not get it.
- 1:08:56Or whatever they're called then. We might not get it, they might.
- 1:08:58They might have just been edging us along with these and never
- 1:09:01get us give us what we want. Look, I mean, if they keep
- 1:09:03laying people off, I mean, look at freaking Crystal.
- 1:09:09I was about to say like, like our first topic for the for the
- 1:09:11night. Well.
- 1:09:12Yeah. Like our first true talk like
- 1:09:14topic. This is the way we're actually
- 1:09:15about to get into our talking topics now.
- 1:09:17Oh my gosh, yeah. Dude, Like this whole layoff
- 1:09:21thing, man, it's March. We should have expected these
- 1:09:24stories, right? Because everybody's got to lay
- 1:09:26people off before the fiscal quarter.
- 1:09:27But Epic Games announced what yesterday or today?
- 1:09:33That they are laying off 1000 employees and they are shutting
- 1:09:39down three-game modes within Fortnite, which is probably the
- 1:09:43least of the everybody's problems.
- 1:09:46Yeah, even one of the biggest gaming companies in the world
- 1:09:50isn't immune to the industry slow down.
- 1:09:52Epic Games announced it is laying off over 1000 employees
- 1:09:56as engagement for Fortnite declines and the company
- 1:09:58restructures. CEO Tim Sweeney said that the
- 1:10:02layoffs are due to falling player activity since of 2025,
- 1:10:06rising development costs, and broader industry challenges, not
- 1:10:10AI. He it did say that not AI.
- 1:10:15Alongside the layoffs, Epic will shut down several new several
- 1:10:20newer Fortnite modes, including Rocket Racing, Ballistic and
- 1:10:23Festival Battle Stage. Now, why rocket?
- 1:10:26Why rocket racing? I thought that was I thought
- 1:10:29that was one of the most well received modes of the game.
- 1:10:31Yeah, I don't know what. Are you going to do with all
- 1:10:33those cars you bought? You know what I mean?
- 1:10:36Like they they're still selling cars in the thing in the store.
- 1:10:41They just, they just had a a like they just had a line of
- 1:10:45like Power Rangers ones when the Power Rangers costumes were in
- 1:10:48their skins, whatever. Festival Battle Stage sounded
- 1:10:52like it could be fun, but it it it it it, it is what it is.
- 1:10:56Yeah, it's not the festival. That's not the Guitar Hero mode.
- 1:11:00It's just the, it's just some sort of thing, right?
- 1:11:03So yeah. I'm actually, I'm actually
- 1:11:07surprised the Guitar Hero thing is still it wasn't one of the
- 1:11:10first ones on the chopping block.
- 1:11:11Because I feel like, I feel like I don't hear anybody talk about
- 1:11:13that anymore. Yeah, they're still selling
- 1:11:15songs, man. They're like 3 bucks apiece.
- 1:11:20Let's see here. They're setting down these modes
- 1:11:25as the company refocuses on its core experiences while the game
- 1:11:28industry continues to face widespread layoffs and slower
- 1:11:32growth. This all comes after Ubisoft
- 1:11:34announcing the closure of Red Storm, which is the original Tom
- 1:11:38Clancy studio. For those who don't know,
- 1:11:42Crystal Dynamics making their fourth round of layoffs within
- 1:11:45the last year and PlayStation closing its second studio this
- 1:11:49month in Dark Outlaw Games, which they just opened last year
- 1:11:53with Call of Duty Zombies veteran, what's his name, Mike
- 1:11:59Blendel. It's only been open for a year.
- 1:12:08It's too many for anyone out there that's interested in I
- 1:12:11threw the I threw the epic game statement in our in our in our
- 1:12:15stream chat. Check it, check it out.
- 1:12:17Open it in a new tab. Don't, don't, don't close this
- 1:12:20tab. Just just look at that.
- 1:12:22Open a new tab, keep the stream going, keep us live.
- 1:12:27It's just like, Oh my gosh, dude, these layoffs, the Crystal
- 1:12:31Dynamics 1 is the one that surprised me the most because
- 1:12:33they're already running like I feel like because they were
- 1:12:37helping on Perfect Dark, right? They are basically the main
- 1:12:41developer on perfect Dark at this point.
- 1:12:43And then when Microsoft shut that down, like they've just
- 1:12:48been going through layoff after layoff after layoff and they've
- 1:12:50got two games in development, they said they were going to
- 1:12:55they they are going to see these two Tomb Raider games through.
- 1:12:57But like, what's going to happen at Crystal Dynamics in two
- 1:13:01years, you know? Don't even realize they've made
- 1:13:05some mistakes and picked them up.
- 1:13:09Just like, Oh my gosh, like I, I just don't understand how this
- 1:13:17industry got this way and how things are so mismanaged.
- 1:13:21You know, like, I mean, I understand how things are
- 1:13:23mismanaged. I see things get mismanaged all
- 1:13:25the time, but it's just like it's it's.
- 1:13:31I don't, I'm not stating the obvious here, but it all started
- 1:13:34with the pandemic. It it's it's really.
- 1:13:36Well, yeah, when I mean, they, these companies got, you know,
- 1:13:39all these loans for like, you know, free money essentially.
- 1:13:43And then once it was over, it was like, Oh no, we've lost all
- 1:13:47this money. As as regular consumers barely
- 1:13:49got stimulus checks during this time.
- 1:13:52Yeah. I mean, if you had a, if you
- 1:13:54were an quote UN quote essential worker, you didn't get stimulus
- 1:13:57checks, so. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:13:59I'm talking to myself here. Did not because I was working at
- 1:14:03the car dealership and I was apparently an essential worker.
- 1:14:08So that was neat. But yeah, man, I don't know.
- 1:14:13I the thing about the thing about Epic also is like they're
- 1:14:16still fighting that epic in Google case.
- 1:14:20Which I thought that was quashed.
- 1:14:22Still going, man. Wait, wait, no, no, no, I'm
- 1:14:24sorry. It was the epic.
- 1:14:24It was the epic in in iOS. So they're still fighting Apple
- 1:14:30and Google at the same time. Oh my God, I thought that.
- 1:14:33I thought I thought that part was quashed.
- 1:14:35And they're still spending money on that case and it's costing
- 1:14:39them a fortune to do that. And so like, I mean, I
- 1:14:45understand, like Fortnite is Fortnite's still huge, but like,
- 1:14:50game came out in 2017, man. Like, you know, people are kind
- 1:14:54of tired of the battle Royale thing.
- 1:14:56You know, these new modes kept people engaged and like, these
- 1:14:59different battle passes bring certain people in, you know, I
- 1:15:03mean, they've got me with the Power Rangers, but like.
- 1:15:06Well, well, let me ask you this because because you kind of you,
- 1:15:09you, you still kind of partake in Fortnite.
- 1:15:13How long do you think it'll take for versus like get an
- 1:15:15announcement that that Fortnite itself is going to be sunset?
- 1:15:19I, I don't, I think it's going to be one of those games that
- 1:15:22lives forever in some capacity, but I think it's, I think Epic
- 1:15:26needs to consider, here's the thing.
- 1:15:30Let me let me back up a second. Like they also are spending all
- 1:15:35this money on keeping their store open, their storefront
- 1:15:38open. What's they're losing money on?
- 1:15:41They give away what, 3 or 4 free games every month?
- 1:15:44Which doesn't? Oh, it's not something speaking.
- 1:15:47Of I'm Speaking of I haven't logged in this week to get my
- 1:15:49games, which I, which I'll be honest with you, I think I've
- 1:15:53only, I think I've only played like 3% of these games I get for
- 1:15:58free. I mean, they're free.
- 1:15:59I mean, you might just add them to your It's the, it's the
- 1:16:01PlayStation Plus thing where like, oh, just add them to your
- 1:16:04library. You can download them later if
- 1:16:05you really feel like playing. I don't know how many times
- 1:16:08maybe like half a dozen PlayStation Plus games have
- 1:16:11played all the way through, you know, but like, it's, you know,
- 1:16:15they're spending all this money in these other places and
- 1:16:18they're not focusing on the core of their business, which is the
- 1:16:20engine and Fortnite, you know, and Fortnite is 9 years old at
- 1:16:28this point. The Unreal Engine 5 has a lot of
- 1:16:32technical issues that, you know, other companies are trying to
- 1:16:35figure out. You know, the Coalition, Xbox's
- 1:16:39Gears, Gears of War Studio is helping them kind of rebuild the
- 1:16:44engine. And, you know, Ninja Theory also
- 1:16:51has been trying to do some technical work on that engine.
- 1:16:54So it's like you're essentially outsourcing some of your
- 1:16:57engineering. What do you what, like this?
- 1:17:03Why can't you just not fight Apple and Google and pay the
- 1:17:0930%? You know, you've probably spent
- 1:17:11more money than you're ever going to pay them, you know?
- 1:17:14Yeah, This started this court case started in what, 2019-2020?
- 1:17:20Somewhere in there. I think it was 2020.
- 1:17:22I want to say it was 20/20/2019. Sounds a little too far back.
- 1:17:26And it's like you're still fighting them six years later.
- 1:17:28You're not going to win. Like, I know you're epic, but
- 1:17:32they're Apple and Google. You're not going to win if it's
- 1:17:36taking you this long, you're not going to win.
- 1:17:38You're. Just going to at the best you
- 1:17:41can do is a stalemate, right? And either you put your games
- 1:17:44back on the on the, the storefront or you don't.
- 1:17:51But you, you, you've, you spent way more money on this court
- 1:17:55case than you could have ever giving them their 25 or 30% cut,
- 1:18:02which, look, I get it, 30% is a lot.
- 1:18:06But they're providing you a service on the back end that you
- 1:18:10don't have to spend essentially that you're building yourself
- 1:18:13and also spending that money on building the back end that
- 1:18:15you're fighting against. So it's like, you know, this
- 1:18:20store too, man, Nobody wants your store.
- 1:18:22Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't, it just feels
- 1:18:25like nobody wants the Epic store either.
- 1:18:30It's, it's we, it's a weird situation.
- 1:18:33I don't know what are you, what are your thoughts on this whole
- 1:18:34situation? I mean, I mean, of course, like,
- 1:18:38you know, like we're we're back, we're back to the conversation
- 1:18:41piece of like layoffs and stuff like that.
- 1:18:44If I'm being if I'm being honest with you, I'm actually shocked
- 1:18:47it took this long, you know, at least coming, you know, from
- 1:18:50Epic, you know, I'm, I'm surprised, you know, but I guess
- 1:18:54they, I guess I have all the sales models that we've seen
- 1:18:56from all these gaming companies. They had the they had the most
- 1:18:59sustainable ones. So I guess congratulations as
- 1:19:02far as that goes. But at the same time, I feel
- 1:19:04like I feel like laying off 1000 employees.
- 1:19:09That's nothing to sneeze ass to sneeze at.
- 1:19:11Wow. Sneeze ass.
- 1:19:16That's nothing to sneeze at, laying off 1000 employees and
- 1:19:19everything, right? But also at the same time, it's
- 1:19:21like, it's like you guys have to do something different or it's
- 1:19:25time to like actually invest in new, like new IPS and stuff like
- 1:19:29that. You know, like, like, I mean, I
- 1:19:32guess, I guess ultimately at the end of the day, Epic's going,
- 1:19:34Epic's going to rely on people like, you know, like, like,
- 1:19:37like, like using, using the, the Unreal Engine patents and stuff
- 1:19:40like that. You know, they're going to rely
- 1:19:42on that. You know, the fact that you
- 1:19:44know, like they actually have, you know, like have a gaming
- 1:19:46division is, is, is amazing. And like I said, kudos to them
- 1:19:50for just now like, you know, like having like a massive
- 1:19:54layoff. I mean this is.
- 1:19:55I mean, this is our second one in two years.
- 1:19:57I think, yeah, this is our second one, but 1000 is a big
- 1:20:01number. Yeah.
- 1:20:04It's a big number. It's crazy to think because of
- 1:20:09how much money they bring in with Fortnite it even even with
- 1:20:13the game in decline, they're still making more money than
- 1:20:15like most other games. It's still in the top three
- 1:20:18money making games on every platform, right?
- 1:20:24Like you look at, I think you look at Playstation's numbers
- 1:20:28every month, like the top three games are Minecraft, Fortnite
- 1:20:33and what Call of Duty or Roblox or Grand Theft Auto.
- 1:20:38Like those are like the five interchangeable games.
- 1:20:40Yeah, yeah, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like Call of Duty
- 1:20:44and and and Grand Theft Auto online do you know, are like are
- 1:20:49are like always fighting each other.
- 1:20:51Yeah, it's, it's still insane that Grand Theft Auto is that
- 1:20:56high. You know, people are spending
- 1:20:57money though on that game. So yeah, I just, I remember when
- 1:21:05Epic was like really still obviously still making games,
- 1:21:09right. Like remember when they revived
- 1:21:11Unreal Tournament and they brought Unreal Tournament 3
- 1:21:14during the 360 PS3 era? We had that that pretty popular
- 1:21:21MOBA. What was it called?
- 1:21:22Paragon. Oh, I.
- 1:21:24Remember that? Yeah.
- 1:21:25That was like that was going on for a while and I think they had
- 1:21:30some sort of free to play creator or user generated
- 1:21:35content version of Unreal Tournament going where like
- 1:21:39somebody would create assets and Unreal Engine and you could put
- 1:21:43it in the game and sell it and whatever.
- 1:21:45Like they were doing something with that like and then
- 1:21:48obviously Fortnite took off and it's like, this is what I'm this
- 1:21:52is what I'm talking about. Like with mismanagement, like
- 1:21:54what is going on? Like how are you spending this
- 1:21:58much money? First of all, I didn't even know
- 1:22:00Epic had 1000 people working for them, you know?
- 1:22:04Like, wait, how could you? How could you not?
- 1:22:05I I, I feel like Epic has like a big workforce.
- 1:22:08See I. And that might be the problem.
- 1:22:10Like to me like because you look at something like Valve and they
- 1:22:14have less than 1000 people working for.
- 1:22:16Them. Yeah, that's, yeah, that is
- 1:22:17true. You know, like across the entire
- 1:22:20world, you know, let alone here. So like, I don't know, man, like
- 1:22:29how many people can you have either working on the engine or,
- 1:22:34or making Fortnite skins at this point?
- 1:22:37You know, it just boggles my mind that there there's he came
- 1:22:43out in that statement and said we're spending more money than
- 1:22:45we're earning. Well, something's wrong.
- 1:22:51Maybe you should stop spending money on on things that you're
- 1:22:55not successful at. I don't know.
- 1:23:00PC gamers sound off in the chat. Do you use the Epic Game Store
- 1:23:04at all? You know, do you?
- 1:23:06Do you? Yeah, I know some.
- 1:23:09Some people use it, some people don't.
- 1:23:11Steam users hate it. I don't know.
- 1:23:16I'm indifferent. It's it's just crazy.
- 1:23:19And then like the other thing too is like Sony closing up the
- 1:23:22studio, like what's going on with PlayStation Two, you know,
- 1:23:25like 2 Studios. It's just nuts.
- 1:23:31Who knows? Who knows?
- 1:23:35While we're on Speaking of angry people.
- 1:23:41Oh, are we going? Are we going to talk about it?
- 1:23:43Let's talk about DLSS for a little bit.
- 1:23:45We are going to talk about it. We are.
- 1:23:48We are. We are.
- 1:23:51It's a popular topic. Yeah, we.
- 1:23:53Don't like the topic, but it's a popular one.
- 1:23:55I really, yeah, I feel like we, I feel like we had a nice
- 1:23:57conversation about it last week. But we can, we can, we can
- 1:24:00return to it. Well, this is this is, this is
- 1:24:01the aftermath we're on. This is the fight back.
- 1:24:05Jensen Wong is fighting back and says that gamers have it all
- 1:24:09wrong. Do we?
- 1:24:13OK, do we do we. OK, so Corey and I last week as
- 1:24:19we were playing well before we even planned last week's show
- 1:24:22where we did wind up talking about DLSS 5, Corey was like,
- 1:24:25hey, have you seen the DLSS 5 stuff?
- 1:24:27And I was like, I hadn't had a chance to yet because I mean, I
- 1:24:29was busy at work. And, and you know, if I'm busy
- 1:24:32at work to where I can't catch a press release for something
- 1:24:35that's in my in my lane and that tells you how busy I am.
- 1:24:40Corey was like, hey, I'm going to send you a link and just
- 1:24:42check this out. And I was like, I was like,
- 1:24:45what's up with the, the glow ups and the justifications of all
- 1:24:48the characters? Like I actually had to watch, I
- 1:24:50actually had to watch the demo 2 times to actually see the stuff
- 1:24:54that was going on in the background.
- 1:24:56And which is why I like when we talked about it last week, the
- 1:24:58first thing I was like is a, is a, is a, hey, like if you, if
- 1:25:01you, if you look past the characters, like the stuff
- 1:25:04that's in the background is amazing for what DLSS 5 is
- 1:25:08doing. But everybody's on the
- 1:25:10justification of character. So here we are.
- 1:25:15Yeah, it was definitely, you know, especially Grace from the
- 1:25:22Resident Evil. The new Resident Evil was.
- 1:25:24Like, see, I'm I'm split, right somebody?
- 1:25:27Definitely applied the makeup filter on that that one.
- 1:25:30I'm I'm split on this because like in all seriousness, I
- 1:25:34didn't see anything wrong with with with the with the after I
- 1:25:39didn't, I didn't. At the same time I was like,
- 1:25:41this is a little too much, but at the same time I was like,
- 1:25:44there's nothing bad about it. It didn't look bad.
- 1:25:46It didn't look like the character, right?
- 1:25:48That I think that's where. Yeah, that's, I think that's
- 1:25:50what it was, right? Because she didn't look tired.
- 1:25:52Yeah. I mean, if you look, if you look
- 1:25:54past like all the the BS that people just want to like grumble
- 1:25:58about AI for grumbling sake, like you look at that and you're
- 1:26:03like, yeah, I it doesn't even look like the same character,
- 1:26:07you know? And especially with how good
- 1:26:08that game looks, right? Like it's one thing where like
- 1:26:11the Starfield demo they showed off, I'm like man, this looks
- 1:26:14OK, so much better. Yeah, they, yeah, they they
- 1:26:17literally did Todd's job for him, you know, like what?
- 1:26:20What? What are we now like three years
- 1:26:22after the fact? Something like that.
- 1:26:25I, you know, I mean, it's coming out next week on PlayStation, so
- 1:26:30who knows? PSSR 2.
- 1:26:31You guys can be excited for that I guess.
- 1:26:33But then but then but then the but then the strange part is
- 1:26:36like the like, like the like Hogwarts Legacy game, like it
- 1:26:39actually did too much for those characters.
- 1:26:42Yeah, I it was very. It was, it was jarring how how
- 1:26:47different they looked. Yeah.
- 1:26:50I was actually like a little less like about the Hogwarts
- 1:26:55Legacy stuff. Like I, I, I thought it looked
- 1:26:58fine. Like it, it looked sharper.
- 1:27:00Like I understand, like people are like, oh, the kid looks like
- 1:27:03he's like 35 years old. I'm like, I don't know if he
- 1:27:06looks that old, but he definitely looks older.
- 1:27:08But. But the old lady?
- 1:27:11I definitely added some wrinkles and some definitely some low
- 1:27:16lights in them wrinkles that were definitely happening, but I
- 1:27:23don't know. Then people were talking about
- 1:27:24how shiny the FIFA like jersey was.
- 1:27:28I'm like, have you ever seen a shot soccer jersey?
- 1:27:30It's shiny, it's shimmery. It's it's got that weird knock
- 1:27:36off Under Armour effect to it. It's shimmery.
- 1:27:38It's shiny. Yeah, like I didn't, Yeah, like
- 1:27:42I didn't see, I didn't see what they were arguing about in that
- 1:27:44one. Because like I, because like,
- 1:27:46because just like how we mentioned last week, like it
- 1:27:49looks, it looks ultra realistic, which, which you know, for
- 1:27:53honestly, I think what I think what DLSS 5 does for FIFA is
- 1:27:58honestly what the vision has always been for every sports
- 1:28:01game from all the way back to to Tecmo Bowl all the way up till
- 1:28:06now. Like I, I believe every sports,
- 1:28:09every sports video game has always wanted to look just like
- 1:28:13that. And we've had some and we've had
- 1:28:15someones in the past that, you know, pulled off amazing feats,
- 1:28:18you know, like, yeah, there've been a lot of, there've been
- 1:28:21quite a few FIFA games where like, literally, I remember like
- 1:28:23working in GameStop and like, and like, people will walk into
- 1:28:27it and we would have like the FIFA game on, you know, like on
- 1:28:29the 360 playing demo mode and people will have to stop.
- 1:28:32Is like, is that an actual game right now?
- 1:28:34Like, no, that's a video game, you know, like, you know, you
- 1:28:38know, so, so yeah, like there's, there's, there's some ways that
- 1:28:42DLSS 5 is going to help out a lot of games because it's going
- 1:28:45to help, it's going to help people realize, you know, that
- 1:28:47they're playing the game they actually thought they were
- 1:28:49playing, you know, from the beginning.
- 1:28:51And then in the other, in other regards, there are going to be
- 1:28:53some games that just, you know, like it's doing too much.
- 1:28:58Yeah, and, and I think it all depends on how the developers
- 1:29:01want to use it or how they're going to implement it, right.
- 1:29:04Because this is definitely that just a demo.
- 1:29:06And it's probably on like people who don't work on games at all
- 1:29:11probably were like, oh, what if we turned it all the way up?
- 1:29:15Yeah, which is, which is, which is what?
- 1:29:17Which is what, Which is what Jensen was trying to was trying
- 1:29:20to argue about. Like the like the developer's
- 1:29:23going to keep artistic control of it basically, basically like,
- 1:29:26you know, they're like, hey, can they're like, can we use, can we
- 1:29:30use your games to, to help promo like what we got going on in the
- 1:29:33OSS 5? And then they just, they just
- 1:29:35turned it up to 1000. Yeah, And I, I think that's the
- 1:29:39thing people forget too, is like these developers had to sign off
- 1:29:42on this, right? Like, like they had to say it
- 1:29:47was OK to show what they were showing.
- 1:29:49You know, it's not like they just went out there Willy nilly
- 1:29:51and loaded up a random game off somebody's Steam account and was
- 1:29:54like, whoa, look, look at this. Here we go.
- 1:29:58Grace is, is hot now. You know, like, oh, OK, sure.
- 1:30:11It's it's so. Funny and, and, and come on
- 1:30:13Corey, we know, we know someone's going to someone's
- 1:30:16going to get DLSS 5 and and strike up.
- 1:30:20Are these minds? Guys and and yeah, exactly.
- 1:30:23And they're going to be gooning. They're either going to be
- 1:30:25gooning to Grace or they're going to be gooning to freaking
- 1:30:27Leon like. You're you're going to see
- 1:30:29features on them that you never thought you were going to ever
- 1:30:31see on them. They're going to yell, I mean,
- 1:30:35like, 'cause that's, that's the, that's the, that's the other sad
- 1:30:38thing about it too. Like, like the day and age we
- 1:30:41live in with gaming now. Like it's, it's, it's all
- 1:30:43goonery. It's yeah, it's something, man.
- 1:30:49My room. 'S saying.
- 1:30:50I'm not saying they want like. Speeding.
- 1:30:52Weird stuff on the Internet, right?
- 1:30:54But like. My roommate walked in just now
- 1:30:58when I was talking about Goonerine.
- 1:30:59Like he had to look like, what did I just step into?
- 1:31:04Look. Your roommate should have known.
- 1:31:08Should have known. What?
- 1:31:09Well, he knows he. Should have known.
- 1:31:18This is what you signed up for when you live with me, man.
- 1:31:26Oh my God, we're talking about Chuck Callen now.
- 1:31:32Can we talk about something else now?
- 1:31:33Sure. Yeah, we can talk about Jeff.
- 1:31:35Jackson, it's Speaking of. Gooning Oh my God, every watch
- 1:31:38is our next topic. How do we get into this?
- 1:31:45Let's do it. Let's do it.
- 1:31:46Let's. I'm just telling you, man, the
- 1:31:48LSS 5 is gone. The LSS 5 is gone.
- 1:31:52Here's the thing, I think it has potential to do some pretty
- 1:31:56amazing things. Same here.
- 1:31:58I think people need to look at it in a way.
- 1:32:05Again, it's the same with the the whole AI thing is like if
- 1:32:08you use it as a tool and you implement it in a way that makes
- 1:32:11sense, it's going to make it more efficient.
- 1:32:15You're reading my mind because I was like, AI is a tool.
- 1:32:18But you can't just go in there and expecting it to do the work
- 1:32:22for you, right? Like you just can't so.
- 1:32:25Well, I mean, Todd Howard's probably.
- 1:32:27Todd Howard's probably. Do that, dude, He could, he
- 1:32:30could type in make me a game engine into that thing and it
- 1:32:34would make a better engine than the freaking whatever engine
- 1:32:37they're using for that. Yeah, right.
- 1:32:40Like, Oh my God, what's it called?
- 1:32:41The creation engine. I always they need to create a
- 1:32:45new engine. That's what they need to do.
- 1:32:48Well, let's talk about Overwatch, a game I actually
- 1:32:51really liked for a long time, and I hear it's getting a lot
- 1:32:55better at the moment. They're doing a lot of good
- 1:32:58things. They dropped the two.
- 1:33:00But we're not here to talk about the game itself.
- 1:33:03We're going to talk about the Jeff Kaplan interview, the
- 1:33:06former Overwatch game director. Dude, he had, he had choice
- 1:33:11words. Yeah, this.
- 1:33:13So if you guys didn't read the interview, Ron, will you post
- 1:33:15that link in the chat so people can look at it if they want to?
- 1:33:18Yep. Basically he left Blizzard,
- 1:33:23which he was there for over 20 years and he thought he was
- 1:33:26going to work there forever. He said he left because
- 1:33:30Activision gave him an ultimatum about Overwatch and if it didn't
- 1:33:35hit it's massive revenue targets, that 1000 employees
- 1:33:39would be laid off and it would all fall on him essentially.
- 1:33:44And in this interview he says, quote, that was just the biggest
- 1:33:48fuck you moment I had in my career.
- 1:33:52And the quote was to him, if it doesn't hit the revenue target,
- 1:33:56we're going to lay off 1000 people and that's going to be on
- 1:33:58you. End Quote obviously the pressure
- 1:34:03of Overwatch League and investors, and I mean the game
- 1:34:06just kind of blew up, I think bigger than most people thought
- 1:34:11like Overwatch was huge and I think people knew it was going
- 1:34:13to be big because it was something different at the time,
- 1:34:16right? I think the only other hero
- 1:34:17shooter at the time was Team Fortress 2, right?
- 1:34:19So something like this was definitely warranted.
- 1:34:24But man, it blew up basically overnight.
- 1:34:28And then Overwatch League took off.
- 1:34:31I I, I bought an Overwatch League hoodie.
- 1:34:33I liked it. I loved Overwatch for a long
- 1:34:35time. I actually bought my Overwatch
- 1:34:39hoodie at the Blizzard booth at PAX, believe it or not, in 2018.
- 1:34:46Must have been that's when my daughter was born.
- 1:34:50Yeah. And I still have it to this day,
- 1:34:53and it's still one of the comfiest sweatshirts I own.
- 1:34:55But it it blew up. Man, I loved Overwatch, but this
- 1:35:00is just insane. And this is the type of stuff
- 1:35:02that like corporate overlords essentially like just make this
- 1:35:11hobby and this like. They ruin it.
- 1:35:14They yeah. And This is why everybody's so
- 1:35:16angry all the time on the Internet.
- 1:35:17I feel like that really love this hobby and are into it like
- 1:35:19enthusiasts, you know, like, yeah, Jeff Kaplan is such a a a
- 1:35:24storied director, you know, and you're going to threaten him
- 1:35:32because, you know, your revenue targets are way over.
- 1:35:40Yeah, over what? Over estimated like.
- 1:35:43Yeah, yeah, yeah. To hear, to hear that, you know,
- 1:35:46like, you know, like if the game doesn't hit the revenue target,
- 1:35:49they're, they're just going to lay off 1000 people.
- 1:35:51Yeah. And so.
- 1:35:54And then and then turn around and say it's going to be on him,
- 1:35:56the director. Yeah, like why would it be on
- 1:35:59him? He's the game director.
- 1:36:00He's not the marketing or salesperson or anything.
- 1:36:04Like he's there. He's not.
- 1:36:05The one he's not the one putting guns to our heads to make us
- 1:36:08play the game. Right.
- 1:36:09Like his job is to make the game fun enough for us to be
- 1:36:12interested in it, but like, that's not, you know, selling
- 1:36:15the game is not his problem. Right.
- 1:36:18Yeah. It's just, it's just, it's just
- 1:36:21crazy. Yeah.
- 1:36:24And that was also at a time when, like, the loot box
- 1:36:26situation was big and like, you know, I assume that's where all
- 1:36:31that comes from, too, right? It's like, oh, you need to make
- 1:36:33cool skin so people buy them or you need to, you know, make it
- 1:36:36harder for people to get the things that they want so they
- 1:36:39spend more money or, you know what I mean?
- 1:36:41Like that sort of thing. Yeah, but we got to think about
- 1:36:45this, you know, right. This is exactly like our some of
- 1:36:48our most popular game series, like Dead Space, for example,
- 1:36:50have also gone through Dead Space did this the the well, I
- 1:36:55mean the Calista protocol had problems, but you know, like the
- 1:36:58Calista protocol had this had this situation I.
- 1:37:02Mean every Square Enix game that has come out over the last two
- 1:37:04decades has underperformed? Essentially, yeah.
- 1:37:08Aquarius. Square Enix.
- 1:37:09Yeah, they lament. They lamented like at like,
- 1:37:12like, latching it on to what you call it.
- 1:37:15Tomb Raider. Flashing it on to PlayStation
- 1:37:19Five, they they remember. The Final Fantasy 16 sold.
- 1:37:26It was exclusive to PlayStation 5 at a time when there was what,
- 1:37:292030 million units out there? Maybe it sold, what, three and a
- 1:37:34half million copies in the first month on an exclusive platform
- 1:37:37and it underperformed? Like what are you talking about?
- 1:37:4010% of the player base bought it.
- 1:37:42And and, and news flash and news flash to to Square Enix.
- 1:37:46Not everybody's playing RPGs like that.
- 1:37:49Yeah, Oh don't worry though, when they put it on an Xbox it
- 1:37:53sold like it sold like less than 200,000 copies.
- 1:37:57Yeah, yeah. So maybe it was just, I don't
- 1:37:59know. I'm not going to say maybe it
- 1:38:01was just the game, because 16 is actually not a bad game.
- 1:38:05Yeah, I like, I loved what I played.
- 1:38:06I just didn't finish it at all. I didn't, I didn't even buy it
- 1:38:12until it was on sale. And then I never played it.
- 1:38:15But I love the demo. Like I played the demo and I
- 1:38:17loved it. I was like about ready to buy it
- 1:38:19and then I got distracted by something else.
- 1:38:21I think. So probably Destiny.
- 1:38:23That seems right. But yeah, it's just the numbers
- 1:38:29these these companies are expecting, you know, and that's
- 1:38:32what a lot of people are talking about Marathon right now that
- 1:38:36sold what, 1.2 million copies I think in its first week, I
- 1:38:40think. And almost 800 thousand of those
- 1:38:45were on Steam, something like that, I think they said.
- 1:38:51And. Steam does some really
- 1:38:53interesting stuff for For games that are that are that are
- 1:38:56typically console releases, Steam does some really
- 1:38:59interesting. Things it's sold less than
- 1:39:00150,000 copies on Xbox. Yeah.
- 1:39:03Which is crazy in my opinion, but.
- 1:39:07I guess that's the indicator for why like, you know, like
- 1:39:10Microsoft kind of got out of this, is trying to get out of
- 1:39:13the console biz. Yeah, well, I mean, they did it
- 1:39:15to themselves though. Oh yeah, yeah, they did.
- 1:39:17Yeah. I mean.
- 1:39:18They did it long before they decided to get out of the
- 1:39:20hardware business, essentially. Right?
- 1:39:21Like, I mean, yes, I know they're still making hardware.
- 1:39:24I get it, I understand. But they did it.
- 1:39:27I mean, Game Pass taught gamers to not buy games.
- 1:39:31Yeah, on that platform, right? They wait.
- 1:39:34They don't even wait for sales. They just wait for it to go to
- 1:39:36Game Pass if they're a Game Pass subscriber, you know, I mean,
- 1:39:39and then like, it doesn't help when you make PC Game Pass the
- 1:39:45most appealing one when you have a hardware out there, right?
- 1:39:48Like Game Pass on PC is what, 12 bucks?
- 1:39:5213 bucks a month. No, it's a little more expensive
- 1:39:55than that because I just, I just, I just because.
- 1:39:57Yeah, because I just. Maybe it's 15.
- 1:40:00I just checked my subscription the other day and I'm like I'm
- 1:40:03like let me. See, they raised it.
- 1:40:07They were I I want to I want to say it's a let's see something
- 1:40:10here. I'm I'm almost there.
- 1:40:12Let me see my subscription PC Game Pass.
- 1:40:20And they might have raised it. It is.
- 1:40:21It is 1650 a a month now. OK, well still, it's still the
- 1:40:26cheapest version. And like I said, the only reason
- 1:40:29why I'm still in there is because like every now and then
- 1:40:31when I get new computer builds I get free codes.
- 1:40:36Yeah, I mean, it's, I mean, if you want Game Pass Ultimate on
- 1:40:39Xbox, it's 30 bucks a month Wild.
- 1:40:43Which is crazy. Like I mean, I know that
- 1:40:45includes PC Game Pass, but like how many people are really
- 1:40:49utilizing that or the cloud functionality or you know, I
- 1:40:52mean I, I think I use the cloud functionality 3 times.
- 1:40:58It's like that. It's like that.
- 1:40:59It's like that meme, brother. Yeah, it's to the point where
- 1:41:03like I dropped down to Game Pass Core.
- 1:41:06Remember when everybody remember when everybody bitched and
- 1:41:08moaned that they raised the price to $10 a month for Xbox
- 1:41:13Live Gold or whatever? Yeah, I remember, I remember.
- 1:41:15That 60 or $70 a year Xbox Game Pass core is just the old Gold
- 1:41:24membership and it's 10 bucks a month and nobody said anything.
- 1:41:30The power of rebranding, man. We're we're laughing at you.
- 1:41:35I mean hey I you're right I'm laughing at myself but I
- 1:41:44cancelled I'd I'm proud of myself though.
- 1:41:46I cancelled the $30.00 a month one and the only reason why I'm
- 1:41:49at $10 a month now is is because marathon is a paid game so you
- 1:41:54have to pay to play online. I could have played Destiny for
- 1:41:58free online because it's a free to play game technically, but
- 1:42:02Marathon is paid so I have to have to have that old
- 1:42:06subscription there's. Still something to be said about
- 1:42:09playing on PC though. Yeah, sure.
- 1:42:17I'll let you play there. It's because I can play with you
- 1:42:20where you're at. I.
- 1:42:21Mean you can, that's true. I don't think I've ever played
- 1:42:24with another console player. When I've teamed up with
- 1:42:25somebody, it's always they always have the steam tag on
- 1:42:28their on their Bungie name. Every single person I think I've
- 1:42:31played with has a has a steam tag, which is also wild.
- 1:42:37That's yeah. But I guess when Steam, the
- 1:42:42steam version of the game is outside of the console versions
- 1:42:453 to one it's bound to happen. But yeah, I don't know, do you
- 1:42:53think, do you think 1.2 million is soft for that game or do you
- 1:42:56think it's where it's supposed to be at like.
- 1:42:59I feel like it's, I feel like given the, given the current
- 1:43:01temperature of, of games of this type, I think that I think
- 1:43:04that's right where it's where it's supposed to be at.
- 1:43:06Like, I mean, I mean, I feel like, I feel like as the game
- 1:43:09progresses and evolves, that's where it's going to pick up.
- 1:43:12That's what's going to pick up a, you know, a dynamic player
- 1:43:15base. Yeah.
- 1:43:17And, and I mean, like, you know, like I, I, I I have a funny
- 1:43:21feeling the reason why it's just not doing better than it should
- 1:43:23be is because there's Destiny fatigue.
- 1:43:25I mean, and when I say Destiny fatigue, there's Destiny fatigue
- 1:43:28from like Destiny players and there's Destiny fatigue from
- 1:43:30people who just hear about Destiny all the time but have
- 1:43:32never actually played Destiny. You know what I mean?
- 1:43:36Yeah. I, I also, I also think like, I
- 1:43:38also think people are like Destiny players are like
- 1:43:44boycotting marathon also. Yeah, yeah, there's that,
- 1:43:48There's that. And of course, like the bad
- 1:43:49Press of this game got, you know, over the last year and a
- 1:43:51half also didn't help. You know, yeah, that that also
- 1:43:55didn't help. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:43:57But I mean, but I'll be honest with you, looking at all of that
- 1:44:01and seeing what Destiny has done, I mean Marathon has done
- 1:44:04since its launch, I think it's actually doing better than we
- 1:44:08should, than we honestly try to get a credit for.
- 1:44:13Yeah, and I think, I think word of mouth that this game is
- 1:44:15actually like much better than people were expecting and
- 1:44:18actually more intriguing in a way because of the Arg Bungie
- 1:44:23did and the, you know, just how well the game plays and how
- 1:44:29honestly how fun it is. Like, I didn't think I was going
- 1:44:32to like it. And I like can't stop thinking
- 1:44:34about it. You know, I hate these types of
- 1:44:38games. It's a roguelike, which people
- 1:44:40keep reminding me. Thank you, everybody out there
- 1:44:42for reminding me that it's this extraction shooter is a
- 1:44:45roguelike. Thank you.
- 1:44:48I remember the amount of like of like eye rolling and heavy
- 1:44:52signing you did. Just just try to get the
- 1:44:55interest to turn the game on. Yeah, and, and then I, and then
- 1:45:01I play it and I'm like, I can't stop thinking about like going
- 1:45:05through these maps and like finding things and completing
- 1:45:09the contracts. And I think I actually think
- 1:45:11what's kept me going to is like the contracts are really fun to
- 1:45:14finish. And you know, it kind of
- 1:45:18exploring the different areas that you wouldn't either
- 1:45:21normally go to or like maybe you shouldn't go to without somebody
- 1:45:25on your team. But yeah, I, I don't know, I, I
- 1:45:31think this game will end up doing better overtime if Sony
- 1:45:35gives it time, which I think I don't think considering all
- 1:45:40these other studio closers. I.
- 1:45:42Yeah, I'm going to. It's going to sound weird for me
- 1:45:44to say this, but I don't think I don't think Sony's going to be
- 1:45:47quick to abandon this game because like, because I feel
- 1:45:50like I feel like Sony had to like pull it out of a lot of
- 1:45:54muck themselves with their own bare hands.
- 1:45:56They've invested a lot more than just.
- 1:46:00Yes, yes. Than just money in the studio.
- 1:46:05Yeah. So all right, Loron, let's let's
- 1:46:14wrap. We don't, we don't have any
- 1:46:15questions. So let's wrap it up with our
- 1:46:16weekly rotating segment. This is a new one, Loron.
- 1:46:20It's a new segment. You've already got achievements
- 1:46:24on here man. Come on.
- 1:46:25Man, you're right. You've got achievements on this.
- 1:46:28Is this is this is the backlog bucket list.
- 1:46:31We're going to, we're going to check back in a month, La Ron
- 1:46:34and see how we're doing on this. And and we're going to call out
- 1:46:36the games that that we feel like are sitting in our backlog if
- 1:46:40we've made any progress on them. La Ron.
- 1:46:43You know, it's weird, Like I know I beat, I know I beat two
- 1:46:46games this year and I've already forgotten what, 2 Those two
- 1:46:48games, Those two games, Laura. What's it one of them?
- 1:46:50Front Mission? One of the Front Mission games.
- 1:46:53I'm almost done with that one. I'm almost done with the with
- 1:46:55the with front Mission 3. What the what the hell?
- 1:47:00Hold on. Let me, let me go to my let me
- 1:47:01go to my library real quickly here.
- 1:47:02Let me. I can tell.
- 1:47:03You while you look up your library, Lauren, I'm going to
- 1:47:05brag that I, I have beaten 2 Fire Emblem games this year that
- 1:47:12were in my backlog that I never finished and one of them I never
- 1:47:16even played. And now I'm on my second Metroid
- 1:47:19game. I'm very proud of myself, very,
- 1:47:22very proud of myself. So been a lot of old games this
- 1:47:28year, a lot of a lot of GBA, lot of GameCube.
- 1:47:34OK, dispatch was one and actually be and actually be
- 1:47:38dispatched twice and I was on 1/3 playthrough before like
- 1:47:42before tactics came out. The dispatch was the the store
- 1:47:51like the episodic story based game with different endings.
- 1:47:54That's why you played it twice, right?
- 1:47:56Like that's that was the point of that, right?
- 1:47:58Yeah, yeah. What anything, anything on your
- 1:48:05backlog we should that I should be writing down here to check in
- 1:48:08on in a month, Laura? Monster runner stories too and
- 1:48:14and and put put monstering stories to Final Fantasy Tactics
- 1:48:18on there and Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater because the remake.
- 1:48:23Of the the remake. The remake.
- 1:48:25The remake because the only because like I defeated myself
- 1:48:28in that playthrough. Like if I hadn't put that game
- 1:48:30down for a week and let everything in, everything in my
- 1:48:33all my, all my food and rations spoil probably would have beat
- 1:48:36that game before Final Fantasy Tactics even came out.
- 1:48:40But I was like, I was like, Nope, like this is too much
- 1:48:44drama. I'm out.
- 1:48:46Too much drama, man. That's another game.
- 1:48:48I need to get back to those I want.
- 1:48:50I want to get back to Final Fantasy Tactics.
- 1:48:53I love that game and I've never finished it.
- 1:48:56You've never finished any playthrough of it?
- 1:48:58No. Oh man.
- 1:49:00I played the most, I played it the most on the on the on the
- 1:49:03Vita for the PS, the PSP version, the War of the Lions
- 1:49:06version, which is in my opinion the best one.
- 1:49:08But I only made this two Game Boy.
- 1:49:13Then they made the two, well I guess advanced ones, but one was
- 1:49:17GBA and one was DS which were good but not they they weren't,
- 1:49:23you know, they weren't Final Fantasy Tactics original OG as
- 1:49:27they say. I just, I just looked through my
- 1:49:34Steam library and I just realized I never beat War
- 1:49:36Groove. Dude, that's a game I wanted to
- 1:49:40like and I just I couldn't get into it.
- 1:49:44And maybe I just wasn't. I mean, it's it's advance awards
- 1:49:48essentially, and which is like, oh, I should I should really
- 1:49:51like this game, but I for I don't know what it was about it,
- 1:49:54but I just didn't get into it. I just couldn't get into it.
- 1:49:58So I don't know, maybe someday. Well, we're on.
- 1:50:07We did it. Yeah, we did.
- 1:50:09We did it, we did a podcast, and now we are going to say goodbye
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- 1:51:03Yeah. La Ron, I appreciate your time
- 1:51:06tonight as always as well. Hey.
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- 1:51:11It is even though we're tired, but it's wow.
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