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- 0:08Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the twentieth of May twenty twenty four,
- 0:13just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News. I am your host,
- 0:17Brian Gerrish. I'm delighted to be joined by Alex Thompson and Mark Anderson.
- 0:25Well, just as we were settling into the studio today, some really
- 0:29quite extraordinary news came through, and that is that the International Criminal Court has
- 0:35apparently issued arrest warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu and the leader of Hamas. I don't
- 0:42have any further information on that, but we're going to bring Alex Thompson in
- 0:47straight away because Alex, you've got a little bit of a premonition that something
- 0:51was afoot. All the linguists, Brian, who are following the advertisements on
- 0:57the International Criminal Court's website, the Hague knew something was afoot. Let's bring
- 1:03that up on screen now. A couple of days ago, this was doing
- 1:04the rounds among professional interpreters and translators and transcribers, and I've done all three
- 1:11professions, all of these three branches of Hebrew to English assistance were required to
- 1:17apply to that with that reference number to the Hague, which could only mean
- 1:21that they were about to go for bib. It doesn't always end up that
- 1:25way. When the prosecutor was Fatu Bensuda from the Gambia, I was one
- 1:30of those who have Georgian who applied because I knew that they were interested indicting
- 1:34Michael Sakashvili after the South Ossetia War similarly, but that never went anywhere.
- 1:41But there you are. It has happened and we will see where it leads.
- 1:44Extraordinary times, it absolutely is, and we may as well go straight
- 1:52on to Georgian news because we have a lot to say about that. Now
- 1:56here's just one example of press cartoons giving an impression of what is going to
- 2:00happen now that the Georgian Dream Party, which has its majority in Parliament,
- 2:06has managed to pass the Foreign Agents Registration bill, so it has now become
- 2:12an act. President Salome Zurabishili, who is originally from France, although Georgian
- 2:16by ethnicity, is against it, but cannot veto indefinitely. So here we
- 2:21see mop top Prime Minister Irapli Koba Hitze maliciously diverting the bus of Georgians who
- 2:28apparently with one voice, wanted to go to the European Union and sending them
- 2:30to the Kremlin instead. Is this all that can be said about It's well,
- 2:35no, it's rather more complex than that. Here we see one take
- 2:38from Nick Griffin, formerly the most important British nationalist politician, now quite a
- 2:46following on telegram, but a divisive figure even within the nationalist scene. But
- 2:51his particular take on this is that every day brings a new blow to the
- 2:55Washington slash Wall Street Empire. And he points out that is not the only
- 3:00country wishing to regulate and scrutinize foreign paid persons and organizations by law, because
- 3:08Turkey is doing the same, he says. And he says it's all about
- 3:12reducing the influence of so called Western because he thinks they're not really Western but
- 3:15a financial cabal liberal non governmental organizations. If you want the detail on this,
- 3:22and let's just translate this because most of our viewers don't even know what
- 3:23script that is. That's George and script. There is a site which will
- 3:29be in the show notes whose name translates as Illuminate ganteh in Georgia, and
- 3:36they have put the very basic bair bones in here. And I think the
- 3:38point here is that this explainer, which is for the non specialist Georgians who
- 3:43are ranging from clueless to outrage it's telling them really the bare bones of this
- 3:49law, and what it is devoid of is the scare reporting which has been
- 3:53featured in other channels. There is no mention in this bare bones analysis which
- 3:58is being passed round Jewish, the mainstream pro Western youth in Georgian society.
- 4:02There's no indication here of people having to be obliged to disclose their sexuality or
- 4:10individuals being gone after by this law rather than organizations, and that I think
- 4:14is significant. So you can read that. You will when you load it
- 4:16from the show notes, give it a couple of seconds depending on your device
- 4:20type and browser for the translation to load into English a bit. Otherwise you
- 4:25will be disappointed and think that it's just Georgian. But it's not as controversial
- 4:30and outrageous as people think. I hesitate even to mention Reddit as an Internet
- 4:35source, but occasionally there are gems there and in the Reddit sub thread a
- 4:40subreddit called Suckardfellow, the Georgian name for Georgia. Earlier this week, somebody
- 4:45it's the usual caveat. It's an anonymous person calling themselves a potential scholar.
- 4:48So a young academic is giving an explainer on the law on transparency of foreign
- 4:55influence. I cannot vouch for who this is, but they have had the
- 4:59time to go through the contrasts and comparisons between this and the best known existing
- 5:04Foreign Agents Registration Act, which is the United States original of the genre from
- 5:10nineteen thirty eight, and they've contrasted the two in the following a few slides
- 5:14which we will I will not read out in full but because people can freeze
- 5:18the screen and read the whole lot. But look, this is obviously somebody
- 5:23who is negatively inclined towards the new law and who would go along with the
- 5:28Western media talking points and the Georgian media talking points and opposition talking points that
- 5:32this is a way of chilling and freezing dissent in Georgia, having a chilling
- 5:41effect. The first of the five slides of contrasts says that while the Georgian
- 5:45law broadly targets the NGOs and scattergun approach, FARA applies because it was enacted
- 5:51on the eve of the Second World War to agents of foreign principles and excludesngos
- 5:58which weren't really such a big deal back in the era of Roosevelt, unless
- 6:02they're acting as agents of a foreign government. May be that as it may.
- 6:05That's the first claim. The second contrast is that while the Georgian law
- 6:11will stifle civil society, it's always such a buzzword in emerging democracies like this
- 6:15civil society. FARA provides transparency. So to my mind, just giving my
- 6:21own opinion, this is a verging towards just being an apologist for America good.
- 6:27Anyone else who tries the same thing bad because it's taking America's word for
- 6:30it. And people who watched last week will know that Canada in the process
- 6:33of doing similarly. So has Britain and several continental European countries. But there
- 6:38are differences between all these Turkey's law, Russia's law, and Georgia's law.
- 6:42But everyone in the geopolitical space really is enacting such a thing now. The
- 6:46third of the five contrasts offered by mister or miss potential scholar on Reddit is
- 6:53that the Georgian version is equipped with teeth fines. If you don't comply,
- 6:59you can even be criminally prosecuted for failure to tell the Georgian government what they
- 7:02want to know about your organization if it's more than twenty percent foreign funded.
- 7:06In the US, the Foreign Agents Registration Act can, if infringed, result
- 7:12in the same penalties. But the law is, it says, primarily focused
- 7:15on transparency. This is fluffy language, right, This is not reassuring to
- 7:18me that America's law really is better. This is just you know what America
- 7:23does is better because I say so, I don't see any primary sources in
- 7:27here. Fourthly, far Our targets individuals and organizations who are politically active.
- 7:32But Georgia and we heard this talking point two weeks ago from the BBC as
- 7:36if you watched that episode, you will know that the BBC went for mister
- 7:41Samjaradze, a governing party MP, on this very point. Allegedly the Georgians
- 7:46version is indiscriminate and goes for religious and humanitarian and charitable organizations, etc.
- 7:51Well, people can make of that what they do. And let's go on
- 7:57from there. And for the final one, which is that FARA requires registration
- 8:01statements. In other words, you can say to the US government, don't
- 8:05touch me with this law. I'm a bona fide a journalist or academic and
- 8:09Georgia doesn't allegedly. Now, I don't have the time to go further into
- 8:13the depths of these laws, and I don't want to give legal analysis as
- 8:16if I were qualified to do so. But I do not find much reassurance
- 8:20in this much banded about term that America really has a better law than Georgia,
- 8:26let alone the other Western countries and Turkey and Russia. Speaking of Russia,
- 8:30OCCRP, a well known website for those who are interested in corruption in
- 8:35countries, is now reporting that Russia is going further than ever with it original
- 8:39law, the one which prompted the media and the Georgian opposition to call this
- 8:43Georgian law a Russia style bill, as in the cartoon that you saw at
- 8:48the start of the segment. Because Russia is now going to exclude what it
- 8:52regards as foreign agents from participating in elections. You might say high time,
- 8:56actually, but this is enough for people to lose their heads in the West.
- 9:00Russian opposition Politico, which is based in both Brussels and Washington these days,
- 9:05is reporting and I've had an earlier iteration of this last week that US
- 9:09senators, particularly I think some of the more liberal inclient ones are now going
- 9:16to push for Congress to go beyond the White House in foreign policy and to
- 9:22make sure that the named politicians who are responsible for this act as it now
- 9:26has become could be sanctioned. And I mentioned last week this is some of
- 9:30the expected fallout. The White House spokeswoman, who we often see making outrageous
- 9:37and ill qualified statements but not always, has said this time that she Curran
- 9:43and John Pierre, this is going to cause a fundamental reassessment of America's relationship
- 9:48with Georgia. That's not the American deep state talking. That's the more liberally
- 9:52minded politicians. We will see how this goes. Just a couple of images
- 9:56to indicate to you this is not represent still the whole protest. I tried
- 10:01to give a painter that that picture last week from witnessing. It's fairly close
- 10:05up, deliberately not in amongst the protesters, but around the edges. But
- 10:07look at the youth of these people and the bandana wearing and the alternative face
- 10:13and hair. Obviously people will go for photogenic shots and this They shouldn't take
- 10:18this as being all of those who are protesting. But there's a very strong
- 10:22teenage vibe, and it gets a bit more otherworldly than that, because here
- 10:26we have a young lady of perhaps fifteen holding up a bilingual sign English and
- 10:31Georgian based on the Harry Potter law or mythological universe. So expecto patronum of
- 10:39well, actually Latin, not English. I'm waiting for the remedy. And
- 10:43then in Georgian dementorebot so you dementors. So anyone she doesn't like in politics
- 10:48so she's been induced not to like is a dementor. One of the top
- 10:52categories of villain from Harry Potter. That wasn't a one off. Here we
- 10:56have some gentlemen who look a bit older enough to no better in one young
- 11:00lady carrying two mugshots each one of a Georgian government politician and alongside it a
- 11:07Harry Potter character. So you know, it's getting a bit facile, juvenile
- 11:13to June, whatever you wish to call it. Just to end this segment,
- 11:18people of course don't speak Georgian. I think ninety nine percent of them
- 11:22who watched this news so I will not put at the video in we don't
- 11:26have permission anyway. But there is an interesting rapper who goes by the name
- 11:30of Master or the Master who has got a huge number of views for a
- 11:33small country like Georgia. For this rap from just before the protests began,
- 11:39a couple of weeks ago, when the mood was hotting up. The rap
- 11:41is called chemi droscha jer, which is idiomatically translated I now reclaimed the flag.
- 11:46And I'll just read my gist of what he was saying in that rap,
- 11:50because I think he represents the thinking part of the middle part of Georgian
- 11:54society that is neither very enamored of the governing Georgian Dream Party nor a fanatic
- 11:58of the EU. And it ain't the scene, but what's happening in many
- 12:01such countries. On the eve of the real tensions beginning. The rapper Master
- 12:07says, I posted the Georgian flag, and the liberal pseudo patriots called me
- 12:13a Russian stooge who can fail to see through them. It's my flag now.
- 12:16I don't give a stuff what footballers and pundits and fashion models yelled about
- 12:20being a Russian stooge. I was brought up with basic decency in the nineties.
- 12:24I mentioned Christ and you made me out to be a putin fanboy your
- 12:28democracy is double standards. Who is afraid of the cross, which of course
- 12:33is on the Georgian flag. There's a lot of anti Christian sentiment among these
- 12:35young protestors. The rapper goes on, I tell you that the bankers are
- 12:39playing us, play a dirty spook game. Yet called a loser. This
- 12:43lot, meaning the extreme agitators, cannot stand anything that's truly Georgian. Their
- 12:46facade is as fake as they're sloganeering. We see you running around with all
- 12:50those NGOs on your CV. You can't make a single point without swearing.
- 12:54Music is all I have. I am asked but to go to and live
- 12:58in Russia and being told that I'll be a social media or I'm a European,
- 13:03that I'm now reclaiming this flag. That's one guy's attitude, but I
- 13:07think it shows that a lot of Georgian society is now thoroughly fed up of
- 13:11the extreme tensions that have been brought into Georgian society here. Alex, thank
- 13:16you very much for that excellent report and insight into what's been happening on the
- 13:20ground. Amazing things happening all around the world. We need to be very
- 13:24careful in analysis Politico was of interest to me, as our viewers and listeners
- 13:31will see when I get onto my own segment in the News. But before
- 13:35we get there, Mark, let's bring you on and the topic is Carnegie,
- 13:41who we could say is one of those very influencing organizations that we're never
- 13:46too sure what they're doing or whose side they are on. Correct, Brian,
- 13:52Good day, guys. The Currnegie Endowment for International Piece is a constituent
- 14:00attendee, a Bildeberg. That's the first footnote. And I'll also preface my
- 14:03remarks by mentioning that the foundation associated with Carnegie. Of course, that's founded
- 14:09by the steel magnate Andrew Carnegie, who built libraries across the United States to
- 14:15kind of reassure Americans that he wasn't a total robber baron at any rate.
- 14:20Back around nineteen seventeen and before that, in the wake of the Federal Reserve
- 14:26Act, the Techs Exempt Foundation was created, and that gave the financial Coterie,
- 14:33the financial consortium that runs much of the world, huge tax shelters,
- 14:39and with that they would found all sorts of think tanks and even art and
- 14:43culture pursuits. And we'll talk about that a little bit later. So the
- 14:48Carnegie Endowment is a big player, along with the Rockefeller Foundation in that kind
- 14:54of that segment rather of American history and the outcome of that. Anyway,
- 14:58looking at the first slide, the Carnegie Endowment is now going to tell us
- 15:03what disinformation is, and according to this report, they're going to counter disinformation
- 15:09effectively. It's actually called countering disinformation effectively. And here's some of the key
- 15:16takeaways from countering disinformation effectively. I'm so glad the Carnegie Endowment is batten for
- 15:22regular Americans here. And it's an evidence based policy guide, they say,
- 15:28put together by two guys, and John Bateman and Dean Jackson will look at
- 15:33them individually in a moment, basically, without getting into all the details here,
- 15:37it says disinformation is widely seen as a pressing challenge for democracies worldwide,
- 15:43but it has proven difficult to define, understand, and measure, let alone
- 15:48address it. A new Carnegie report, however, runs to the rescue and
- 15:52offers evidence based assessments of ten major policy interventions get that word, Drawing up
- 16:00on hundreds of academic papers and consultations with many leading scholars and practitioners, Each
- 16:04case case study describes real world uses, provides a resource list, and answers
- 16:11three fundamental questions. How much is known about the intervention, how effective does
- 16:17it seem? And how scalable is it? That was an important one to
- 16:21read. And now we'll move on from there. I won't get into all
- 16:23this. I'll just read the highlights. This is a summary of the overall
- 16:27findings. The actual report is one hundred and thirty pages. I got this
- 16:33out of the summary and it says, for one thing, there is no
- 16:37silver bullet or best policy option. It also says democracy should diversify their policy
- 16:44portfolios. Additionally, policy makers should set realistic expectations. Then, countering disinformation
- 16:52is not always a political Moving on, pervasive research gaps will last for generations,
- 17:00and generative AI might not be a disinformation game changer, even though they
- 17:07say it has some potential to intervene. One of their tools to intervene.
- 17:11Moving on from there, this is a chart that's in there. It offers
- 17:15public information, government action, and platform action. And they're kind of trying
- 17:21to sort out the different aspects of this Brian and assess what might work and
- 17:26what might not. And the top one no surprise here and We've seen this
- 17:30before, is supporting local journalism. Here we go again. There's this idea
- 17:34that newspapers and other types of media outlets are drying up across Canada, across
- 17:41the United States. In this case, they're worried about America mainly, and
- 17:45if we could just get more local news coverage with the conventional worldview, all
- 17:49will be well. And so this is a recurring theme, not just with
- 17:55Carnegie. You're showing now this next slide here is the second of the two
- 18:00categorization slides. This one, for example, gets into cybersecurity for elections and
- 18:07campaigns. Note number seven state craft, deterrence and disruption. Interesting words,
- 18:15and note number eight removing inauthentic asset networks. Let me repeat that one,
- 18:21removing inauthentic, inauthentic asset networks. And I read up on that one a
- 18:26little bit, Brian, and that mainly appears to concern outlets or sources on
- 18:33social media that misidentify themselves, that misrepresent themselves. But the wording of that
- 18:40suggests that it might go further. Anyway. We'll move on from there and
- 18:45come through this. The next part is about the authors. John Bateman is
- 18:49a senior Fellow in the Technology and International Affairs Program at Carnegie and Dean Jackson
- 18:56is principle of Public Circle Research and Consulting and a specialist in democracy, media,
- 19:02and technology. We'll learn a little bit more about them in the next
- 19:06slide. And Dean Jackson, we can pick this apart a little bit is
- 19:12a principle of Public Circle Research and Consulting, as noted, and a specialist
- 19:17in democracy, media, and technology. In twenty twenty three, he was
- 19:19named an inaugural Tech Policy Press Reporting Fellow and an Affiliate Fellow with the Propaganda
- 19:26Research Lab here at the University of Texas at Austin. Previously, get this,
- 19:30he was an investigative and now excuse me, an investigative analyst with a
- 19:36select committee to investigate the January sixth attack on the US Capitol. So that's
- 19:41a rather interesting note. He's been looking at Trump supporters and whatnot in viewing
- 19:48them as quasi criminals and going on from there. We'll get into the next
- 19:52one. And this is John Bateman. A little bit about him, folks
- 20:00on global technology challenges at the intersection of national security, economics, politics,
- 20:04and society. His research areas include techno nationalism, an interesting concept cyber operations,
- 20:12disinformation and AI he did. He's an author of US China Technological Decoupling,
- 20:21a Strategy and Policy Framework twenty twenty two and former Google CEO Eric Schmidt
- 20:26longtime Builderberger in his forward in that publication called it a major achievement that stands
- 20:33out for his ambition, clarity, and rigor, and will remain a touchstone
- 20:37for years to come. So the authors of this Carnegie report have interesting an
- 20:42interesting CV to consider here. Winding this up. The interesting thing, though,
- 20:48Brian, is that for all the effort in this Countering Disinformation Effectively report,
- 20:56there's a lot of admissions several in fact, that show that while they're
- 21:02trying very hard to intervene and get what they consider disinformation countered and dealt with
- 21:07and perhaps even removed, they're still admitting that it's a very tough hill to
- 21:12climb, and that the job is by any mean is by no means going
- 21:18to be easy, rather and it's going to be an uphill battle to achieve
- 21:22and may take a long time. In this section from page eleven in Conceptual
- 21:29Challenges, it gets into that this is a good example of what I'm talking
- 21:33about, that they admit that this is going to be quite difficult. Identifying
- 21:37disinformation presents several puzzles, it says, for one thing, labeling any claim
- 21:44as false requires invoking an authoritative truth. Yet the institutions and professions most capable
- 21:51of discerning the truth, such as science, journalism and the courts, are
- 21:55sometimes wrong and often distrusted. Moreover, truth can be selectively assembled to create
- 22:02an overall narrative that is arguably misleading, but not necessarily false in the objective
- 22:07sense. So what it boils down to, Brian is they want to weed
- 22:11out polarization, extremism, and hate and have this hunky dory world from the
- 22:18viewpoint of the globalists. But they're admitting that it's a very difficult thing to
- 22:22achieve. Oh and this last thing, and I'll just mention it in passing.
- 22:26The Carnegie Endowment and the Carnegie Foundation was part of a nineteen fifty three
- 22:30investigation by Congress of Radical and Subversive Organizations, and they found that the Carnegie
- 22:41Endowment had been exploiting world wars and the concept of world wars to help exert
- 22:47political control. And that was found out or revealed by what was known as
- 22:52the Race Committee. Right after the Korean War, right around nineteen fifty three.
- 22:56And the left part of this slide is showing that the CIA did not
- 23:02declassify the final report of that committee, the Race Committee. They didn't declassify
- 23:07it until the year two thousand and one, I believe, so it was
- 23:10pretty sensitive material in its day. But the Carnegie Endowment was amongst several tax
- 23:15exemp foundations Brian that, according to that committee, was engaging in subversive and
- 23:19unconstitutional activities. Thank you very much, Mark. And of course Carnegie would
- 23:26say they only exist to look after us all and do the best for mankind.
- 23:30So I think we're right to be suspicious. But you made a key
- 23:36point there that they're finding it difficult to counter disinformation and misinformation if the authorities
- 23:44are not necessarily putting out the truth themselves. So what better place to go
- 23:48than the BBC? And this caught my eye over the weekend. It's BBC
- 23:55Sounds Ukraine cast. I'd never listened into this before, but I started to
- 24:00listen to this clip and I was struck by something. Let's just play it
- 24:04for you and we can discuss what they said. BBC Sounds Music Radio Podcasts.
- 24:15Hello, it's seven hundred and ninety three days since Russia began its full
- 24:19scale invasion of Ukraine. In the last episode, we asked for your ideas
- 24:23of people we should invite onto Ukraine Cast to answer your questions, and Jane
- 24:29in North Yorkshire here in England got in touch. Hello Ukraine Cast. In
- 24:33a recent episode you asked listeners to suggest people for your podcast. I'm very
- 24:40impressed with General Ben Hodges, the former head of the US Army in Europe.
- 24:45Can you get him on? Thank you, Jane. Your wish is
- 24:48our command. Ben Hodges, welcome to Ukraine Cast. Well, thank you
- 24:52very much. I'm very happy to be here. Tell us more about yourself.
- 24:56Well, I was Commander US Army Europe from to fourteen through twenty seventeen
- 25:02and then retired from the Army. I stayed in Europe after I retired,
- 25:06and now I serve as a senior mentor for NATO Logistics, and I do
- 25:12everything I can to help explain why Europe and NATO and Ukraine are so important
- 25:18to the United States as well as to the rest of US. So I'm
- 25:22interested in helping Ukraine defeat Russia and explaining how we can do that. Well,
- 25:32excuse me. Perhaps it was just me, but I was fascinated that
- 25:34the idea that a lady called Jane in North Yorkshire would select former General Ben
- 25:41Hodges as somebody who the BBC should promote. Was it just a coincidence that
- 25:47this elderly lady's been focused on this man? Or could it possibly be that
- 25:52the BBC did a little bit of help to get the person they wanted.
- 25:56I'm not too sure, but let's look at Ben Hodges and I went to
- 26:00his Twitter page noticed that he said on that recording that he was there working
- 26:07for the United States, and then it was like he suddenly realized that he
- 26:11was in front of a British or a European audience and he corrected it to
- 26:15say, well, I'm here for you all, but really he's not.
- 26:18He's here for the USA and a very bland headed on his Twitter page.
- 26:25But if you go down the tweets you rapidly see what this man is.
- 26:27This was a pin tweet Ukraine making crimea untenable for Russian sources, denying Russia
- 26:34the use of the decisive terign of the war. This was a promotion of
- 26:44an earlier tweet where somebody was posting about the then recent attacks on Russian military
- 26:51sites in Crimea. And what did General ben Hodges say, Well, he
- 26:56said this well done. Indeed, unfortunate that the US had to do this,
- 27:03but full credit to US Sentcom and the US Army logisticians who have accomplished
- 27:08their mission. So to me, it was very clear that what's going on
- 27:12here is that the US is now fighting the Russians without too much cover.
- 27:18And Ben Hodges, the BBC spokesman, is going to push this to the
- 27:23British public, but he's coming in from a very biased position. Let's have
- 27:27a look at another of his tweets. It was this particular young lady.
- 27:32Sorry, let's bring this on screen for you, and it's Jessica Berlin and
- 27:37she had some really extraordinary things to say. Look at the age of this
- 27:41woman and consider what she says. Let's have a look at the video clip.
- 27:48Russia needs to lose, and lose badly. Russia needs to crawl out
- 27:52of Ukraine on their knees, begging for mercy. That's what the Chinese need
- 27:56to see, That's what the Saudis need to see, what every dictator on
- 28:00the planet needs to see to ensure that they don't get any ideas themselves,
- 28:07because if what they see is oh Russia is allowed to invade a democratic European
- 28:11country, literally on the borders of NATO, to butcher senselessly tens of thousands
- 28:18of people, to threaten global food security, to cause refugee crises, to
- 28:25cause the kind of destruction we haven't seen on this continent since World War Two.
- 28:27If they're allowed to get away with this in the twenty twenties and then
- 28:32get back to business, well then nothing's going to stop the Chinese from attacking
- 28:37Taiwan, or from pressing forward in the South China Sea, etc. Because
- 28:41NATO will have shown that we cannot even keep the peace in our own front
- 28:45garden, and that is much more dangerous than internal political chaos in Russia.
- 28:56The implications of this war are truly global. This war, this conflict,
- 29:00shapes our century, and what we do or don't do, will determine the
- 29:06rest of our geopolitical arrangement for the next generations. Well, Alex, if
- 29:12I may just a very quick your thoughts on that I find this young lady.
- 29:18I find it scary. She is so naive and she is dabbling in
- 29:22very, very dangerous international politics. What's your thoughts. I don't know her
- 29:30exact age, but I know that from the next slide you've queued up she's
- 29:33under forty because she's in the forty under forty list of right young things.
- 29:37I found her eyes rather glazed over in the fanatic sense, and that is
- 29:41not a good profile for somebody to be involved in this level of discussion of
- 29:47defense and security. But I will get some brick bats for this, but
- 29:49I'll say it. There's a particular move to get gutsy young women around the
- 29:53world, particularly the Western world, talking tough in these jobs, and the
- 29:57feeling is that this is balancing out the patriarchy of old. She hasn't got
- 30:02a clue, Thank you for that. Well. My key point, of
- 30:06course is that this is a woman being promoted by General Ben Hodges that the
- 30:10BBC wants us to believe and follow. But you're absolutely right. If we
- 30:15have a look at her own Twitter page, there is the detail. But
- 30:18who is she really? Who is she working for? What? You've got
- 30:21to look at the small print because she's a senior fellow of Sepper and if
- 30:26we bring them on screen here we are the Center for European Policy Analysis Its
- 30:33nonprofit is non partisan. It's a public policy institution based in Washington, d
- 30:38C. Focused on quote, strengthening the Transatlantic Alliance through cutting edge research,
- 30:45analysis and programs. And then it's dealing with issues of democracy, security,
- 30:52defense to government officials and agencies, and it's helping Transatlantic businesses navigate strategy landscapes.
- 31:00So this is all about America and promoting America's interests. But of course,
- 31:06yet this lady has put across as if she was just somebody who's got
- 31:11an interesting opinion that we should pay attention to. She's much more than that.
- 31:15And if we follow this organization through here, we've got leadership in action,
- 31:22six priorities for the Transatlantic Alliance in twenty twenty four. And if I
- 31:26just bring in the key ones on screen here, we've got secure Europe,
- 31:32contain Russia, and constrained China. So it's pretty obvious that this is an
- 31:37organization in the best interests of America. But you should always look at the
- 31:42small print. I went to look at the International Leadership Council and then nestled
- 31:48amongst the very small, very faint names, I came up with this man,
- 31:53Boris Johnson Prime Minister United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and also
- 32:00Matthew Kaminski, Editor at large Politico. So when we're looking at stuff from
- 32:05Politico, we still need to know who they are really aligned with. And
- 32:09remember that this is a blatantly pro American organization. If we have a look
- 32:15at the team, that's the next good place to go. I went straight
- 32:20to the board of directors. They sounded to be people who were powerful and
- 32:25in charge. And then if we bring names on screen, you don't really
- 32:30have to go very far. Larry Hirsh is the chairman. I called up
- 32:35his profile. Let's spring that winning if I can. And what you find
- 32:39is he's also the chairman of Highlander Partners LP, a private equity firm,
- 32:45and that sets the scene because what you've got in this organization, which it
- 32:51says it's there for the best interests of man kind, of course, is
- 32:53a powerful mix of hedge funds, big business politicians and change agents, very
- 33:00change agents that perhaps Georgia would want to restrict. And if I just take
- 33:05one more here, we've got as Mitchell. Why should we be interested in
- 33:12him? Well, just bring in a marker here. He served as Assistant
- 33:15Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs from twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen,
- 33:22and he was responsible for diplomatic relations with the fifty countries of Europe and Eurasia.
- 33:28But he's also involved with NATO, THEEU and OSCE. This is a
- 33:35State department man, So this is pure America. This is nothing to do
- 33:38with the benefit of nation states of the world. And if we go on
- 33:43through, it says that prior to joining the State Department, Mitchell co founded
- 33:47and served as president CEO of the Center for European Policy Analysis. So I'll
- 33:53leave it there. But really this was just following through on who the BBC
- 33:59was promoting, as if they're just some innocent retired American general. Know,
- 34:05you dig into it and you find that you're deep into prescribed American politics for
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- 35:44He's decided he's had enough of school and with help from adults, he is
- 35:50now embarking on a completely different type of education. And this is a really
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- 36:02tomorrow and see the wisdom that this young man brings. Now we've got this
- 36:08one here, bring in the noise. This is starting to promote the good
- 36:14work going on north of the border in Scotland in relation to vaccine damage and
- 36:20people who have vaccine injured. Beggy pardon. So this is Sunday June the
- 36:24second. I've lost that one, thank you. This is Sunday June the
- 36:30second, and it's eighteen Jamaica Street. That's Glasgow g one four QD and
- 36:38it's a live Q and A plus a fundraiser. So that is doors open
- 36:45at six pm and the show starts at seven pm and you can get tickets
- 36:50via Tickets Scotland Alex. This is a good advert for us to have here
- 36:55because of course there's much good work going on in Scotland on this particul Killar
- 37:00topic. There is and a lot of commentators Brian are now confessing Neil Oliver
- 37:07is but one of them quite honestly, that they didn't pay enough attention whether
- 37:13they have a connection to Scotland or not to the Edinburgh based COVID inquiry.
- 37:17Some shockers are coming out of it. Scotland pursued perhaps the most rigorous COVID
- 37:22policies across the board of any United Kingdom nation, due not least to the
- 37:27Clinton Night Devi Sridar in charge of public health policy at the time, but
- 37:30that is now being redressed. And I have particular praise for occasional UK column
- 37:37author David Tate Tait who as well as writing for us and we will have
- 37:40more of his excellent pieces looking at regional COVID issues from freedom of information requests.
- 37:47David Tait also runs a substack blog. Here it is and sorry for
- 37:52leaning on the button too early when you were just talking about the previous piece.
- 37:54So David Tate blog on substack is called Biology Phenom. It'll be in
- 38:00the show notes for those who can't find it easily. And there are two
- 38:04parts now to his highlights real He's gone through previous iterations and the first was
- 38:08a quarter of an hour. The second is an extended one to nearly half
- 38:12an hour. It's a bit obscure for people to go to substack and find
- 38:15embedded videos because of course, as you just mentioned, the big players Facebook,
- 38:20YouTube, Vimeo don't like us anymore. So in order to counteract that,
- 38:23he has provided direct download links which will be in the show notes,
- 38:28so that you can, if you have the ability to send the file transfer
- 38:31or something of that nature, send the two versions the quarter hour or the
- 38:37half hour to anyone you want, so that they can put them on their
- 38:39own platforms or play them to whoever may need to see them. There are
- 38:44many shockers that will leave people scunnered, as they say, not of the
- 38:47Border about the policy that was being pursued during COVID and David Tait Biology for
- 38:52non also here on UK Colum dot org. I think is the finest of
- 38:57anyone who's following this, so from me praise on our recent piece. The
- 39:02popular Heather Haying, a big hitter on Twitter, who was also mentioned in
- 39:07the piece in question, has drawn particular attention and praise to Dr Petra Buskin's
- 39:13last essay, part one of three, which went up in our comment section
- 39:17last week on the spat that developed between the advocates of mass formation and those
- 39:27opposed to them, as explainers theories for why we all obeyed mostly during COVID
- 39:34and Heather Haying is signposting people to the essay which is here. The Paradigm
- 39:38War was Part one two should go up tomorrow if I am able to fit
- 39:44that in with the other things I'm doing in Georgia and keep with this series,
- 39:47because although the events in question and even the lawsuit between the protagonists are
- 39:52now behind us, this is now I think time for us to take stop
- 39:54and say, should we be spending so much energy on accusing other people in
- 40:00the dissident scene of having a traitor theory or should we be looking at what
- 40:04was done to our minds? We should certainly be looking at what was done
- 40:07to our minds, Alex, There's no question because it affects how we see
- 40:13so much in the world, and there clearly is a massive campaign to attack
- 40:17our minds. Now you've got more international news for us here. This is
- 40:24a busy neighborhood. Brian Georgia is itself very troubled. To the south is
- 40:30Armenia, which has been pummeled by Azerbaijan, which is to the east of
- 40:35Georgia and Armenia. To the south of that is Iran. It has now
- 40:38been confirmed this morning that the Iranian President Ibrahim Rightisi and his foreign minister of
- 40:45the Lahayan were among those who were killed in this sorry scene, not the
- 40:50bra sharpest of pictures, but that is what happened to President Rightisi's helicopter as
- 40:54he was returning from the border between the Iranian province of Azerbaijan and the nation
- 41:01of the Republic of Azerbaijan. It's confusing because that territory called Azerbaijan was split
- 41:06between the Tsarist era Russians and the Persians, so there are places in Iran
- 41:12now called Azerbaijam. What was going on was that President Raisi and his party
- 41:16were attending the launch of a dam on the border between Iran and Azerbaijan,
- 41:21and on the way back, for inexplicable reasons which may or may not have
- 41:25to do with the mist in those notoriously remote hills, the helicopter was downed
- 41:31or crashed. Extremely sensitive timing because Azerbaijan is a close ally of Israel,
- 41:37and because Armenia, in retaliation, has formed strong ties with Iran, which
- 41:45is confusing to people because Armenia is the Christian nation and you'd expect it to
- 41:51be against Iran. But that's the way things go in this region that people
- 41:54have thought that perhaps there was some tampering with the helicopter by the as Arias
- 42:00from north of the border from the Independent Republic of Azerbaijan, the Israel allied
- 42:05nation, when Raisi was on the ground. Nobody knows at this juncture,
- 42:08but following so hot on the heels of the attempted assassination of Slovak Prime Minister
- 42:13Robert Fitzop, this is really something. This is Republic of Iran broadcasting with
- 42:19a reporter up in the misty hills at the scene. There was no sign
- 42:22of life there. They took hours to get up to the site and then
- 42:25took another twelve hours combing over it. Here is Reuter's confirming this morning that
- 42:30Rayisi has been killed. That's the scene of the crash, and you can
- 42:35see that the very thin nation of Armenia is just to the northwest. And
- 42:38what's either side of Armenia so not highlighted, but the grade out country both
- 42:45to the west and to the east of Armenia there, so north and northwest
- 42:47of the helicopter crash scene, that is Azerbaijan, which is closely allied with
- 42:52israel I. Don't need to say more to our UDAP audience as to the
- 42:57reasons why may people people may think that this was in this retaliation because they
- 43:00will be following Vanessa Bile's contributions here and other people's contributions elsewhere. The Georgia
- 43:07based blogger Money Circus thinks that something is off with this. I am not
- 43:12a helicopter, communications or navigation expert by any stretch of the imagination, but
- 43:15he points out that there were three helicopters and therefore the nature of the crash
- 43:21and its location was known, but it took a time took time to reach
- 43:23it. He suggests it's possible communications were jammed, and he doesn't think that
- 43:29the idea of a hard landing is a sensible description of what happened, because
- 43:34you don't land if you fly into the side of a mountain. So it
- 43:37really went off the rails bang and in reality, as an Iranian official told
- 43:42Reuters, the president's plane, well helicopter was completely burned in the crash incident,
- 43:46so he calls it a manipulation of perceptions. Meanwhile, there is this
- 43:53also regarding just what one month ago. John Helmer Dances with Bears is a
- 43:59very good primer resource for a lot of Russian news, and he points out
- 44:02that just a month ago they were very conflicting, contradictory readoubts between Moscow and
- 44:07Tehran on a phone call perhaps the last, between Putin and Raisi on what
- 44:13to do with regards to Israel's aggression against Iran in the region along and the
- 44:17short of it is that the Iranians were possibly putting words into Putin's mouth that
- 44:23he wanted Israel and punished more or alternatively, the Russians didn't want it to
- 44:28be known in their communicate just quite how much a support there was for Iran
- 44:31in there. So we don't know what's going to come of that, but
- 44:35it's a possible explanation of what could have induced people to want to get him
- 44:40off the scene. Just this morning, and this is unconfirmed and from Twitter,
- 44:45so high caveats on this, but it's self self explanatory. Whose signed
- 44:50this Twitter handle takes Mossad commentary. They were reporting this morning that they were
- 44:54unconfirmed reports of the assassination of the commander in chief of the Iranian police,
- 44:59who was seven times twice as much twice as many shots as were landed in
- 45:04mister Fico in Slovakia, so it's getting pretty hot. Indeed, now this
- 45:09tension in the region between Armenia and Azerbaijan, which involves Iran in it,
- 45:15is getting some extraordinary geographical lengths. Here on the other side of the world,
- 45:21off the coast of Australia, in the French self governing colony of New
- 45:24Caledonia Noubil Caledoni, there have been some serious riots recently because the French Parliament
- 45:32modified the constitution with regard to this overseas territory of France, so that not
- 45:37only the native Canaks the Autocthamous people could vote on who governs the island,
- 45:43but also French citizens or anyone else suitably qualified who lived there for ten years.
- 45:47Lots of rioting, and you might think, what on earth has a
- 45:51south sea island got to do with the Caucasus. You couldn't get more time
- 45:53zoned apart than that. Well, there is an apparent connection. So first
- 46:00of all, we see that the French Interior Minister Darmana has come out and
- 46:06suggested in terms that the Azerbaijanis decided to adopt the cause of the native Kanaks,
- 46:13the disgruntled natives, so that we see here in lifingago that Damana is
- 46:17accusing Azerbaijan of interference in the riots and stoking them, and Baku, the
- 46:22capital of Azerbaijan, called this unfounded. But yet look at this. Here
- 46:28is a photojournalist snapping what's going on down in New Caledonia and you can see
- 46:34the second flag pole from the right is topped by the New Caledonian flag with
- 46:37the yellow circle containing the traditional arrow. But below that is the flag of
- 46:42Azerbaijan. Now that could be somebody laughing as they see these days, but
- 46:45it could be something rather more serious than that. Finally, from me in
- 46:50this segment, Russia related but not CAUCUSUS related in the Sahel, that region
- 46:54of West Africa between the Arab countries and the Black African coastal country. Further
- 47:00down in that zone that is so contested between America, Russia, China and
- 47:06the European Union. At the moment, as we've covered for many years,
- 47:07something remarkable has happened. First of all, to cover it is a Hong
- 47:12Kong law student reporting for Jurist News, obviously, as we say, a
- 47:16Western mindset site for law students who believe in the rules based international order.
- 47:23For short and Shihuai who here is reporting that the countries in question, Quina,
- 47:28Fasso, Mali and Nigier, which have all had problems, ex huge
- 47:31problems with Islamists doing horrible things in their country and who haven't been able to
- 47:37get much help from their former colonial overlord France, have decided to leave the
- 47:43equivalent of NATO in the region ecowas well sult of an equivalent of the EU
- 47:45or NATO, which was always dominated by France and Nigeria, and have formed
- 47:51a new alliance instead. This took some people by surprise, although it was
- 47:54pretty well trailed by those who should have been following it. And the Hindu
- 48:00here reporting from India. It's good to get other perspectives. This will all
- 48:02be in the show notes. Report that this they're calling it an alliance,
- 48:06they're less keen to call it what it actually is, which is a confederation.
- 48:09This is the last step before you become a single country. Huge news
- 48:14also given that many countries in that part of West Africa had a currency tied
- 48:17to the French franc for a long time. They are forming a new alliance
- 48:22called the Alliance of Sahel States the AEES. So that's actually a new block
- 48:28there, and they're undertaking as part of this agreement that they're the alliance i
- 48:32should say confederation that they're forming. That there will be no French or American
- 48:37military assistance, that's what that will be banned in. Instead, they'll be
- 48:39Russian military guarantees. A great coup for Russia. However, you look at
- 48:44it and I'm left wondering why France allowed this to happen if it was within
- 48:47its power to stop it, because this leaves France without its uranium mind.
- 48:52Alex, thank you very much for that comprehensive report. There's a lot of
- 48:55thought necessary when we look at what's happening in these areas and whether parties are
- 49:01working together behind the scenes or not. We'll wait to see. Excuse me,
- 49:07let's bring in a quote and see what you make of it. So
- 49:12we'll pop this up on screen. Here's the quote. No one is safe
- 49:16anywhere until everyone is safe everywhere. Well, what an astonishing statement. There's
- 49:23a bit more to it. The world needs agreement on the pandemic accord,
- 49:30and who came out with this I'm going to call it utter nonsense, well
- 49:35the first sentence, but it's our very own Gordon Brown, ex Prime Minister
- 49:39of UK. So what we need is a video, isn't it. Let's
- 49:45have a look at the video. COVID claims seven million lives and infected seven
- 49:52hundred million people, and last year the International Manager Funder estimated that the costs
- 49:57of the pandemic could go beyond twelve and a half trillion dollars. An influenza
- 50:02pandemic could well be worse, particularly as it could strike at the young just
- 50:07as well as the old, and this would deepen the human and the economic
- 50:13impacts. Member states of the World Health Organization are currently negotiating a pandemic treaty
- 50:20and revisions to the international health regulations. Success that this will come if countries
- 50:24are able to agree a wide ranging and strong deal that creates incentives to cooperate
- 50:30between countries and companies. So the agreements between countries have to come first.
- 50:36We already have an idea of what might be useful. The current strategy to
- 50:42donate influenza vaccines in real time could be extended to all pandemic vaccines and to
- 50:46diagnostics and to medicines such as antiviruls. A binding treaty would make it harder,
- 50:53but not impossible for countries to halt the export of vaccines and medicines during
- 50:58pandemics. Vaccine nationalism is unfortunately impossible to eliminate. But with an international deal
- 51:05that regional production helps, the dynamics of vaccine supply during a pandemic would improve
- 51:10dramatically. Some outreks can be halted, others can be delayed, but we
- 51:15don't know when the next outrate will start. It may even have done so
- 51:20already, So the world urgently needs to have a plan. The potential cost
- 51:24of preparing a tiny in comparison to the scale of these pandemics. And this
- 51:30is the right way of thinking about it. Now. The economists get it,
- 51:34so maybe it's time for the politicians to get on board. The world
- 51:37does not know how big or how dangerous the next pandemic is going to be,
- 51:42nor what pathogen will cause it, nor do we know when it will
- 51:45happen, but there is going to be one, so we must act and
- 51:50we must act together. Now. Well, I can tell from our chat
- 51:59box that people were really enamored with that appalling video by Gordon Brown trying to
- 52:04lureus into a full sense of security. But what a statement we don't know
- 52:08how big or dangerous it is. We don't know the pathogen, we don't
- 52:14know when, but we can tell you it's coming. I would say there's
- 52:17some weaknesses in that particular scientific argument. But if we go back to his
- 52:22Twitter page where this was posted, this is what it looked like. I'm
- 52:27just going to say the good news is, if you haven't looked at the
- 52:30comments that came up underneath it, they were brilliant. The man that sold
- 52:34all the UK gold reserves enabled the mass immigration that's ruined UK. If I
- 52:39ever needed a sign that who treaty is a bad thing for the UK,
- 52:45it's this statement by Gordon Brown, this one saying bought and paid for.
- 52:51Gordon Brown calls labor support a bigoted woman. The Guardian report some time ago.
- 52:57This one here, Gordon Brown, the man who sold most of the
- 53:00UK's gold at a poor price, drove the economy to the brink and beyond,
- 53:05supported endless wars and essentially a blair. Right here, we've got no
- 53:12one is safe anywhere until everyone is safe everywhere. How trite, how manipulative,
- 53:16how very wrong. We just popped this last one on not a chance
- 53:22the people have woken up who is a racket controlled by vested interests and you
- 53:25are but a bag carrier for them. Gordon, you are better than this.
- 53:30Well I disagree with the final statement. He clearly isn't better than that.
- 53:36But what UK column picked up from the video is that Gordon Brown was
- 53:40working alongside this man, regok Shale, who is a strategic communications consultant at
- 53:49the World Health Organization, and one of his specialist areas data driven strategies to
- 53:54develop effective social media communication campaigns identifying batting misinformation and disinformation. That ties in
- 54:04nicely with Mark Anderson's earlier segment, but Gordon Brown fully in bed with this
- 54:09whole pandemic scam. And just to thank you to Lucy who forded this one,
- 54:16pointing out that Dr Vanessa excuse me, Dr Vanessa Kerry has been appointed
- 54:22as the WHO Director General Special Envoyd for Climate Change and Health. She can
- 54:27do both, wonder woman. And of course this is John Kerry's daughter.
- 54:31So I'll leave that segment there and leave you to think about that. And
- 54:37I think this brings you back on Alex with some more local news. Yes,
- 54:45Brian, I've been taking people to far away climbs for most of this
- 54:47news. So let's bring it right back to the West Country. But the
- 54:52other side of the peninsula from where you're sitting. Thanks to our own Kenny,
- 54:55we know that. BUTWD in North Cornwall has not one, but two
- 55:00juries to sit in judgment over their peers. But these are not juries of
- 55:05a crown court, much less of a district court. No, they are
- 55:10a youth mini jury and an area community jury. Now this is sortician alias
- 55:19aliatory democracy because seven, sorry eighteen miners aged under sixteen, sixteen and under
- 55:28were chosen at random. That's what sortician or aliatory democracy means, to sit
- 55:31on a jury, cheapening the word by twisting its definition to share their own
- 55:37lived expertise. According to journalists James Davies here, they were also briefed by
- 55:40seven so called experts, and rather laughably, expert was put in inverted commas
- 55:45by mister Davis by mistake, so that he's almost giving the game away that
- 55:51these people are just one side of the argument. Professor Mark Baldwin, professor
- 55:55of climate science at Exeter University and sky Neville Campaigner Against Kids campaigner with Kids
- 56:04against Plastic Tat were two of those seven experts who told the teenagers, it's
- 56:09awful, we should be doing more for the climate, etc. So that
- 56:14is reported by the viewed and Stratton post. If you don't know what all
- 56:16the fuss is about, just type in democracy into UK column dot org's search
- 56:21function, the magnifying glass or the search bar and you will see that we've
- 56:24gone into this in a lot of detail. Of the many kinds of appalling
- 56:28false versions of democracy, I think this aliatory one is the worst because it
- 56:32involves people being told by hand picked briefers for one side what they should be
- 56:37thinking, a bit like a courtroom which is briefed only by one side.
- 56:42It wouldn't fly in a court of law, but apparently it's good enough to
- 56:45rule over us. A viewer has sent this The link will be in the
- 56:49show notes as well. UK one hundred, an organization which propagandizes and has
- 56:54signed up almost all of our local councils now is sending this out times running
- 57:00out to have your say on the future. Apparently, climate change, as
- 57:05in the interests of all these well paid organizations, must be put at the
- 57:07heart of the devolution agenda. In other words, we must be getting the
- 57:10counselors and the council staff's head in every part of the United Kingdom full of
- 57:15climate emergency before more money and power is somewhat unlawfully in many cases, devolved
- 57:21from His Majesty's government in Westminster to various regions of England as well as Scotland,
- 57:24Wales and Northern Ireland. Now follow this link through if you would like
- 57:28to from the show notes, because look, it's all panic questions. What
- 57:31do you think is the problem? Why aren't we doing enough about this climate
- 57:35emergency? But look, there is a facility called other at the bottom of
- 57:39each of these questions where you can give them, in polite and factual and
- 57:44reason terms what for their nonsense if you so desire, and you don't have
- 57:49to put your name in either, So do that before the deadline, which
- 57:52is quite soon. North Yorkshire, we've mentioned already in the news, has
- 57:55something even worse. Open north Yorkshire to a long term viewer whom we have
- 58:00quoted here before, who tells us that he found out by chance that his
- 58:05local council there were running a scheme called Open North Yorkshire, which they described
- 58:08as behavioral change, about climate change and net zero nonsense. So he took
- 58:14it upon himself to ask them with a Freedom of information request which we'll see
- 58:16in a moment what else they were doing in regard to behavioral change. And
- 58:20you will recall, Brian, that we have covered similar from the West Midlands
- 58:22before one of the local councils there had an FOI served on them by a
- 58:28local resident in this particular regard. So there are several, perhaps most of
- 58:31our municipal bodies by this stage, who have behavioral change units. And if
- 58:36you are a regular viewer who knows about this, why aren't you asking and
- 58:39trawling for what your own council has on this and sending it in to us,
- 58:44because it is quite telling. So here is a document which will be
- 58:47in the show notes too, which was produced by North Yorkshire in the first
- 58:52year of Coronavirus HUBBUB towards the end of twenty twenty, the final report on
- 58:59using behavior science to support communication campaigns. It's the more milk toast than some
- 59:06of the things we've seen. Certainly nothing compared with this spy be equivalent at
- 59:09national government level, but the graphics tell us a thing or two. I
- 59:14don't know, Brian, whether you would be interested in having healthy thinking patterns
- 59:17courtesy of your local authority. But that is something that North Yorkshire Council can
- 59:22help with. And perhaps you're not altruistic enough, but you would be if
- 59:25your local council in Devn appealed to your sense of altruism. Well, if
- 59:30you live in the North York Dales or Mores, you can benefit already from
- 59:32this beauty. But the problem is, and this will be in the show
- 59:37notes too, the FOI in question by the viewer asked the council to provide
- 59:43to him all details of behavioral change programs as per the points which I won't
- 59:46read, and they omitted to send him the document which I have just shown
- 59:51you. They did not put that into their FOI response, perhaps a bona
- 59:57fidee omission or something else. Who knows this is likely to repeated in your
- 1:00:00own in the case, so you know, go go ahead and find out
- 1:00:05what's happening in your own area. And in the West of Wales we find
- 1:00:09the same, not the same, but in a similar area of concern,
- 1:00:15which is grooming sex education going into the content of the curriculum. Wales,
- 1:00:21as we've covered, does not have opt outs so that children can be pulled
- 1:00:23out by their parents from unsuitable materials. The Western Telegraph reports and look it's
- 1:00:28the local Democracy reporter, a BBC funded person, Rus Sinclair in this case
- 1:00:31who's reporting this that parents have now been saying to the council we have concerns
- 1:00:37about our children being grooming. There's plenty more to go on there, but
- 1:00:42wherever you are in the United Kingdom you should be of course following this up
- 1:00:45actively with your council. Alex, thank you very much. Troubled times and
- 1:00:49a lot of people in the chat box talking about the sheer k or some
- 1:00:53mayhem that's clearly being orchestrated in UK. That that to me very well with
- 1:01:00the idea we have a satanic agenda over to you Mark Well anyway, at
- 1:01:07this point in time, do you want me to do the full report given
- 1:01:10the time, Given the time, if you just cut it down a little
- 1:01:15bit and we'll certainly discuss this more in UK column Extra after the news.
- 1:01:21I just want to frame that out. I'll give a very basic report and
- 1:01:24we'll do some commentary on the way modern governments, particularly globalist governments, view
- 1:01:32art as another avenue of culture that can be so easily degraded through status regimes
- 1:01:39anyway to give it the basic reporting, This is out of charisma, a
- 1:01:45Christian publication saying that up front. And we're talking, of course, mainly
- 1:01:49about the so called official portrait released about King Charles, showing him that is
- 1:01:54the portrait of him, and this article the headline is Satanic claims eyes over
- 1:02:00King Charles portrait. With the recent unveiling of the first official portrait of King
- 1:02:06Charles, the third, much of the world recoiled in horror at the blood
- 1:02:10red side of it. Commissioned by British artist Jonathan Yo, the monarch is
- 1:02:15surrounded by red except for his hands and face, which retained their flesh tones,
- 1:02:21I would say barely. Yo said it as the red of the Welsh
- 1:02:23Guards uniform that inspired such a polarizing portrait, and he was quoted as saying
- 1:02:30the vivid color of the glazes in the background echo the uniform's bright red tunic,
- 1:02:34not only resonating with the royal heritage found in many historical portraits, but
- 1:02:38also injecting a dynamic, contemporary jolt into the genre, with its uniformly powerful
- 1:02:45hue, providing a modern contrast to more traditional depictions. Yo's website states and
- 1:02:53here we have just a kind of a random view of interpretation, you might
- 1:03:00say, of this official portrait to the left, which came out of Twitter
- 1:03:05from a location in England, and they say, they claim that if you
- 1:03:09take a mirror image of the portrait and put the two sides together, what
- 1:03:15meets in the middle looks something like a goatshead or some sort of demonic figure.
- 1:03:20That may be a subjective interpretation. I'm not saying it's right. I'm
- 1:03:23not saying it's wrong, but this is what's out there in Cyberland. And
- 1:03:28of course to the right here in this slide you saw King Charles's face and
- 1:03:34that kind of ruddy, sort of pop marked look it has, even though
- 1:03:37that's supposed to be the most realistic and genuine part of the overall so called
- 1:03:44work of art. Moving on from there we have Tim yo a picture from
- 1:03:51him in twenty fourteen, and to the right is Jonathan Yoe, the artist
- 1:03:54himself. I won't go into a lot of detail here in the interest of
- 1:03:59time, but the artist is politically connected somewhat. Tim Yoh was a rather
- 1:04:03significant member of Parliament, also scandal ridden in some respects, and he worked
- 1:04:11with Tony Blair among others, and served in the shadow cabinet as John Major's
- 1:04:17Minister of the Environment and so on and so forth. I may not have
- 1:04:23all those associations exactly correct. And a lot of the news you see out
- 1:04:27there Brian about the King's portrait don't talk about mister Yo's other work. Here
- 1:04:32we have from Wikipedia some information and an image of Jonathan Joe's portrait of Tony
- 1:04:40Blair, and people can read the show notes about the particular details of that.
- 1:04:47But it's just it gives you a better idea of what this artist is
- 1:04:51about. Is he really a painter or is he more of an illustrator?
- 1:04:56And this you don't often hear about too in this slide. Jonathan Joe also
- 1:05:00did a so called masterpiece of George W. Bush, and this was said
- 1:05:04to have been done from porn clippings from a pornographic magazines put together to form
- 1:05:13George W. Bush's face. And US Republicans, that says here from the
- 1:05:16Register of Publication, are none too pleased with British artists. British artist Jonathanio,
- 1:05:21who's just completed a fetching portrait of George Bush constructed from Grumble mag clippings
- 1:05:29it says, but many sources say from porn clips, not that George W.
- 1:05:32Bush deserves a lot of praise or anything. He's often seen as the
- 1:05:38architect of terrible military policies against Iraq that really gave America even more of a
- 1:05:45black eye. But here, at least we see a little bit more about
- 1:05:49the artist and some of the other work he's done. We'll move on from
- 1:05:53there and wind up for today, and yeah, we can just talking just
- 1:06:00on this last one lot, Yeah, because there's more to talk about with
- 1:06:03the Rockefeller Foundation and the Museum of Modern Art, and I would invite viewers
- 1:06:09seeing the main show now to stay tuned for extra we'll talk about the Rockefellers
- 1:06:14in art and the deep state and art and cultural values, things like that.
- 1:06:17But this last one is something else we're not seeing much of. All
- 1:06:21the hype is about King Charles portraits shown to the right. Here we see
- 1:06:26Jonathan Jo's portrait of David Cameron, and you see the same ruddy face,
- 1:06:30kind of a stained look, nothing edifying, nothing uplifting at all. And
- 1:06:36it's just a snapshot of modernism's view of art, which is more degradation than
- 1:06:43it is uplifting. But we'll talk about those kind of things much more.
- 1:06:46An extra much to say here, and I'm sure that you guys want to
- 1:06:49comment to Okay, Mark, thank you very much for that. Well.
- 1:06:54I think it's an appalling picture, but of course in the Green King Bie
- 1:06:58Evans myself been exposing more this man's been up to and I think it fits.
- 1:07:03It fits in quite nicely. We must end there, so I'm going
- 1:07:06to say Mark, thank you very much for joining us today and you will
- 1:07:12be with us for extra time. Alex, thank you very much for your
- 1:07:15comprehensive segments today and we look forward to talking to you more in extra time
- 1:07:20as well. We must leave it there. Big thank you to the audience
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