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S8, Ep 29: Fishing in Flux: Matt Reilly's Take on Spring Trends and Techniques · The Articulate Fly

• 0:03
  Hey,
• 0:04
  folks,
• 0:04
  it's
• 0:04
  Marvin
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  Cash,
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  the
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  host
• 0:05
  of
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  The
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  Articulate
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  Fly.
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  We're
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  back
• 0:07
  with
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  another
• 0:07
  Southwest
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  Virginia
• 0:08
  Fishing
• 0:08
  Report
• 0:08
  with
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  the
• 0:09
  man
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  himself,
• 0:10
  Matt
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  Reilly.
• 0:11
  Matt,
• 0:11
  how
• 0:11
  are
• 0:11
  you
• 0:11
  doing?
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  I'm
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  doing
• 0:13
  good.
• 0:13
  We're.
• 0:14
  We're
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  still
• 0:15
  fishing.
• 0:16
  Yeah.
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  Although,
• 0:17
  you
• 0:17
  know,
• 0:17
  we
• 0:18
  were
• 0:18
  talking
• 0:18
  before
• 0:18
  we
• 0:18
  started
• 0:18
  recording,
• 0:19
  and
• 0:20
  your
• 0:20
  spring
• 0:20
  striper
• 0:21
  run
• 0:21
  was
• 0:21
  pretty
• 0:21
  brief.
• 0:23
  Yeah,
• 0:23
  man,
• 0:24
  most.
• 0:25
  Most,
• 0:26
  most
• 0:26
  everything
• 0:26
  since
• 0:27
  about,
• 0:29
  gosh,
• 0:29
  I
• 0:29
  guess
• 0:30
  the
• 0:30
  1st
• 0:30
  of
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  March
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  has
• 0:31
  been
• 0:31
  kind
• 0:31
  of.
• 0:32
  Kind
• 0:32
  of
• 0:33
  accelerated
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  and,
• 0:35
  and
• 0:35
  abrupt
• 0:35
  and,
• 0:36
  and,
• 0:37
  you
• 0:37
  know,
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  muted
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  to,
• 0:39
  to
• 0:39
  say.
• 0:41
  Well,
• 0:41
  not
• 0:41
  to
• 0:42
  say
• 0:42
  the
• 0:42
  least,
• 0:42
  but
• 0:43
  not
• 0:43
  to
• 0:44
  sound
• 0:44
  too
• 0:44
  down
• 0:44
  about
• 0:45
  it.
• 0:45
  It's.
• 0:45
  It's
• 0:46
  just
• 0:46
  been
• 0:46
  a
• 0:46
  funky
• 0:46
  spring,
• 0:47
  you
• 0:47
  know,
• 0:47
  super
• 0:48
  duper
• 0:48
  dry.
• 0:50
  Had
• 0:50
  a
• 0:51
  string
• 0:51
  of
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  like
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  85
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  to
• 0:53
  95
• 0:54
  degree
• 0:54
  days,
• 0:55
  you
• 0:55
  know,
• 0:55
  for
• 0:56
  a
• 0:56
  week
• 0:56
  there
• 0:56
  in
• 0:57
  early
• 0:57
  April,
• 0:59
  some
• 0:59
  of
• 1:00
  that
• 1:00
  in
• 1:00
  late
• 1:00
  March.
• 1:01
  And,
• 1:01
  you
• 1:01
  know,
• 1:01
  when
• 1:02
  you
• 1:02
  don't
• 1:02
  have
• 1:02
  any
• 1:02
  water
• 1:02
  in
• 1:03
  the
• 1:03
  river,
• 1:03
  things
• 1:03
  warm
• 1:04
  up
• 1:04
  really
• 1:04
  quick
• 1:05
  and,
• 1:06
  you
• 1:06
  know,
• 1:06
  just
• 1:07
  been.
• 1:07
  It's
• 1:07
  been
• 1:08
  pretty,
• 1:08
  Pretty
• 1:09
  interesting.
• 1:10
  Yeah,
• 1:10
  I
• 1:10
  would
• 1:10
  say,
• 1:11
  you
• 1:11
  know,
• 1:11
  we
• 1:11
  were
• 1:11
  talking
• 1:11
  before
• 1:11
  we
• 1:12
  started
• 1:12
  recording
• 1:12
  and
• 1:13
  folks
• 1:13
  that
• 1:13
  listened
• 1:13
  to
• 1:13
  all
• 1:14
  of
• 1:14
  these
• 1:14
  fishing
• 1:14
  reports
• 1:15
  would
• 1:16
  remember
• 1:16
  the
• 1:16
  Led
• 1:16
  Zeppelin
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  song,
• 1:17
  that
• 1:17
  the
• 1:17
  song
• 1:18
  Remains
• 1:18
  the
• 1:18
  same
• 1:18
  because
• 1:19
  it
• 1:19
  doesn't
• 1:19
  really
• 1:19
  pretty
• 1:20
  much
• 1:20
  matter
• 1:21
  where
• 1:21
  you've
• 1:21
  been
• 1:21
  on
• 1:21
  the
• 1:22
  Eastern
• 1:22
  seaboard,
• 1:22
  whether
• 1:23
  it's
• 1:23
  trout
• 1:23
  or
• 1:23
  smallmouth,
• 1:24
  your
• 1:24
  spring's
• 1:25
  been
• 1:25
  pretty
• 1:25
  wrecked,
• 1:26
  right?
• 1:26
  Yeah,
• 1:27
  well,
• 1:27
  yeah.
• 1:28
  Talking
• 1:28
  about
• 1:28
  leads
• 1:28
  up
• 1:28
  on.
• 1:29
  I'm
• 1:29
  ready
• 1:29
  for
• 1:29
  the
• 1:29
  levy
• 1:30
  to
• 1:30
  break
• 1:30
  any
• 1:31
  day
• 1:31
  now.
• 1:33
  The.
• 1:34
  Yeah,
• 1:35
  it's,
• 1:35
  it's.
• 1:36
  It's
• 1:36
  just
• 1:36
  been
• 1:36
  the
• 1:37
  same
• 1:37
  old.
• 1:37
  And
• 1:37
  I
• 1:37
  mean,
• 1:37
  I
• 1:38
  guess
• 1:38
  it
• 1:38
  hasn't
• 1:38
  been
• 1:38
  that
• 1:39
  long,
• 1:39
  but,
• 1:39
  you
• 1:40
  know,
• 1:40
  things,
• 1:41
  things
• 1:41
  progress.
• 1:42
  I
• 1:42
  mean,
• 1:42
  a
• 1:42
  lot
• 1:43
  goes
• 1:43
  on
• 1:43
  in
• 1:43
  the
• 1:43
  spring,
• 1:44
  you
• 1:44
  know,
• 1:44
  transition
• 1:45
  from,
• 1:46
  from
• 1:46
  muskies
• 1:47
  to
• 1:47
  pre
• 1:48
  spawn
• 1:48
  smallmouth
• 1:49
  for
• 1:49
  like
• 1:49
  a
• 1:49
  month,
• 1:49
  month
• 1:50
  and
• 1:50
  a
• 1:50
  half.
• 1:50
  And
• 1:51
  then
• 1:52
  stripers
• 1:53
  and
• 1:54
  a
• 1:54
  bunch
• 1:55
  of,
• 1:55
  you
• 1:55
  know,
• 1:56
  insect
• 1:56
  hatches
• 1:57
  on
• 1:57
  trout
• 1:57
  streams
• 1:58
  and,
• 1:58
  you
• 1:58
  know,
• 1:59
  if,
• 2:01
  you
• 2:02
  know,
• 2:02
  on
• 2:02
  certain
• 2:02
  years,
• 2:03
  cicadas.
• 2:03
  I
• 2:04
  was,
• 2:04
  I
• 2:04
  was
• 2:04
  kind
• 2:04
  of,
• 2:05
  kind
• 2:06
  of
• 2:06
  talking
• 2:06
  like
• 2:07
  I
• 2:07
  was.
• 2:07
  I
• 2:07
  was
• 2:07
  bummed
• 2:08
  that
• 2:08
  we
• 2:08
  didn't
• 2:08
  have
• 2:08
  another
• 2:09
  cicada
• 2:09
  hatch
• 2:10
  this
• 2:10
  year,
• 2:10
  but
• 2:10
  hell,
• 2:10
  I
• 2:11
  don't
• 2:11
  know,
• 2:11
  they
• 2:11
  could
• 2:11
  have
• 2:11
  come
• 2:12
  out
• 2:12
  three
• 2:12
  weeks
• 2:13
  ago
• 2:13
  for
• 2:13
  all
• 2:13
  I
• 2:14
  know,
• 2:14
  and
• 2:14
  we
• 2:14
  would
• 2:14
  have
• 2:14
  been,
• 2:15
  you
• 2:15
  know,
• 2:16
  having
• 2:16
  a
• 2:17
  tough
• 2:17
  time
• 2:17
  smallmouth
• 2:18
  fishing,
• 2:19
  you
• 2:19
  know,
• 2:19
  and
• 2:19
  then,
• 2:20
  you
• 2:20
  know,
• 2:20
  striper
• 2:21
  run
• 2:21
  Peter
• 2:21
  and
• 2:22
  out
• 2:22
  early
• 2:22
  and
• 2:22
  then
• 2:22
  missing
• 2:23
  the
• 2:23
  cicada
• 2:23
  hatch.
• 2:24
  Who.
• 2:24
  Who
• 2:24
  knows?
• 2:25
  You
• 2:25
  know,
• 2:27
  two.
• 2:27
  Two
• 2:27
  months
• 2:28
  ago,
• 2:28
  I
• 2:28
  was
• 2:29
  having
• 2:29
  a
• 2:29
  conversation
• 2:30
  with
• 2:30
  some
• 2:31
  of
• 2:31
  my
• 2:32
  West
• 2:32
  Virginia,
• 2:33
  Ohio
• 2:33
  fellas
• 2:34
  at
• 2:35
  a
• 2:35
  trade
• 2:35
  show
• 2:36
  up
• 2:36
  in
• 2:36
  Cincinnati.
• 2:37
  They're
• 2:37
  asking
• 2:37
  me,
• 2:37
  you
• 2:38
  know,
• 2:38
  because,
• 2:39
  I
• 2:39
  mean,
• 2:39
  you
• 2:39
  know,
• 2:39
  we
• 2:39
  had
• 2:39
  a
• 2:40
  pretty
• 2:40
  dang
• 2:40
  cold
• 2:41
  February
• 2:42
  and
• 2:42
  in
• 2:43
  January
• 2:43
  the
• 2:44
  river
• 2:44
  was
• 2:44
  frozen
• 2:45
  for
• 2:45
  a
• 2:45
  month
• 2:45
  and
• 2:47
  you
• 2:47
  know,
• 2:47
  we're
• 2:47
  trying
• 2:47
  to
• 2:47
  decide
• 2:48
  whether
• 2:48
  that's
• 2:49
  going
• 2:49
  to
• 2:49
  extend
• 2:50
  the,
• 2:50
  the
• 2:51
  kind
• 2:51
  of
• 2:51
  pre
• 2:51
  spawn
• 2:52
  muskie
• 2:52
  window
• 2:53
  or
• 2:53
  not.
• 2:53
  You
• 2:53
  know,
• 2:54
  maybe
• 2:54
  we'll
• 2:54
  be
• 2:54
  fishing
• 2:54
  all
• 2:55
  the
• 2:55
  way
• 2:55
  to
• 2:55
  April.
• 2:56
  They,
• 2:57
  I'm
• 2:57
  pretty
• 2:57
  sure
• 2:57
  they
• 2:58
  were
• 2:58
  pretty
• 2:58
  much
• 2:58
  done
• 2:58
  spawning
• 2:59
  by
• 2:59
  the
• 2:59
  first
• 2:59
  of
• 3:00
  April.
• 3:01
  So
• 3:02
  yeah,
• 3:02
  things
• 3:02
  have
• 3:03
  just,
• 3:03
  things
• 3:03
  have
• 3:03
  just
• 3:04
  changed
• 3:04
  real
• 3:04
  quick.
• 3:05
  Yeah.
• 3:06
  And
• 3:06
  so,
• 3:06
  so
• 3:07
  what
• 3:07
  do
• 3:07
  you
• 3:07
  expect
• 3:07
  to
• 3:07
  see
• 3:07
  as
• 3:08
  you
• 3:08
  kind
• 3:08
  of
• 3:08
  shift
• 3:08
  gears
• 3:08
  back
• 3:09
  to
• 3:09
  smallmouth?
• 3:11
  It.
• 3:12
  Well,
• 3:12
  so
• 3:13
  it
• 3:13
  was
• 3:13
  back
• 3:13
  out
• 3:13
  today.
• 3:15
  Today
• 3:15
  was
• 3:16
  my
• 3:16
  first
• 3:16
  coast
• 3:16
  striper
• 3:17
  run
• 3:17
  day.
• 3:18
  It's,
• 3:19
  you
• 3:19
  know,
• 3:20
  still
• 3:20
  real
• 3:20
  low.
• 3:21
  We
• 3:21
  do
• 3:22
  have,
• 3:23
  you
• 3:23
  know,
• 3:23
  we're
• 3:24
  having
• 3:24
  some
• 3:24
  pretty
• 3:24
  great
• 3:25
  early
• 3:26
  April
• 3:26
  weather
• 3:26
  right
• 3:27
  now.
• 3:28
  Like
• 3:28
  highs
• 3:29
  in
• 3:29
  the
• 3:29
  60s,
• 3:31
  rain
• 3:33
  weather
• 3:34
  that,
• 3:34
  that
• 3:34
  really
• 3:35
  makes
• 3:35
  the,
• 3:35
  the
• 3:36
  striper
• 3:36
  fishing
• 3:36
  good
• 3:37
  if
• 3:37
  it
• 3:37
  comes
• 3:38
  at
• 3:38
  the
• 3:38
  right
• 3:38
  time
• 3:38
  of
• 3:39
  year.
• 3:41
  So
• 3:41
  water
• 3:41
  temps
• 3:42
  have
• 3:42
  dropped
• 3:42
  a
• 3:42
  little
• 3:42
  bit,
• 3:42
  but
• 3:43
  things
• 3:43
  are
• 3:43
  still
• 3:43
  really
• 3:44
  low.
• 3:44
  There's,
• 3:45
  there's
• 3:45
  fish
• 3:45
  in
• 3:46
  all
• 3:46
  stages
• 3:46
  of
• 3:47
  the
• 3:47
  SP
• 3:47
  still
• 3:51
  and
• 3:51
  we,
• 3:52
  you
• 3:52
  know,
• 3:53
  normally
• 3:54
  it,
• 3:54
  it,
• 3:55
  you
• 3:55
  know,
• 3:56
  that
• 3:56
  May
• 3:56
  through
• 3:58
  like
• 4:00
  late
• 4:00
  June,
• 4:02
  early
• 4:02
  first
• 4:03
  half
• 4:03
  of
• 4:03
  July
• 4:03
  time
• 4:04
  frame
• 4:04
  can
• 4:04
  be
• 4:04
  a
• 4:05
  real
• 4:05
  grab
• 4:05
  bag
• 4:05
  of
• 4:06
  different
• 4:07
  techniques
• 4:07
  and
• 4:08
  things
• 4:08
  with,
• 4:08
  with
• 4:09
  a
• 4:09
  couple,
• 4:09
  you
• 4:10
  know,
• 4:10
  kind
• 4:10
  of
• 4:11
  standout
• 4:11
  patterns
• 4:12
  like
• 4:12
  a,
• 4:13
  like
• 4:13
  a
• 4:13
  bait
• 4:13
  fish
• 4:14
  bite
• 4:14
  we
• 4:14
  usually
• 4:14
  get
• 4:15
  in
• 4:15
  late
• 4:16
  May,
• 4:16
  June
• 4:16
  and
• 4:17
  then
• 4:17
  a
• 4:17
  crayfish
• 4:18
  mold
• 4:18
  and
• 4:19
  you
• 4:19
  know,
• 4:20
  some
• 4:20
  top
• 4:20
  water
• 4:20
  fishing
• 4:21
  mixed
• 4:21
  in.
• 4:21
  But
• 4:23
  I,
• 4:23
  I
• 4:23
  have
• 4:23
  a
• 4:24
  feeling
• 4:24
  it's
• 4:24
  kind
• 4:24
  of
• 4:24
  just
• 4:25
  going
• 4:25
  to
• 4:25
  be
• 4:25
  like
• 4:25
  that,
• 4:26
  just
• 4:26
  kind
• 4:26
  of
• 4:26
  here
• 4:26
  and
• 4:27
  there
• 4:29
  all
• 4:29
  over
• 4:29
  the
• 4:29
  place
• 4:30
  with,
• 4:30
  with
• 4:30
  the
• 4:30
  added
• 4:31
  benefit
• 4:31
  of,
• 4:32
  you
• 4:32
  know,
• 4:32
  having
• 4:33
  real
• 4:33
  low
• 4:33
  water,
• 4:35
  whether
• 4:35
  the
• 4:35
  water's
• 4:36
  real
• 4:36
  warm
• 4:37
  and
• 4:37
  the
• 4:37
  fish
• 4:37
  are
• 4:37
  really
• 4:38
  in
• 4:38
  a
• 4:38
  buggy
• 4:38
  mood
• 4:39
  or
• 4:39
  not.
• 4:40
  Um,
• 4:40
  we'll
• 4:41
  definitely
• 4:41
  be
• 4:41
  able
• 4:41
  to
• 4:41
  get
• 4:42
  some
• 4:42
  fish
• 4:42
  on
• 4:42
  bugs
• 4:44
  we
• 4:44
  did
• 4:44
  today.
• 4:46
  And
• 4:47
  one
• 4:47
  thing
• 4:47
  I,
• 4:47
  I
• 4:48
  kind
• 4:48
  of
• 4:49
  always
• 4:49
  like
• 4:50
  to
• 4:50
  put
• 4:50
  into
• 4:50
  people's
• 4:51
  heads
• 4:51
  this
• 4:51
  time
• 4:52
  of
• 4:52
  year
• 4:52
  because
• 4:52
  I,
• 4:52
  I
• 4:53
  see
• 4:53
  this
• 4:53
  a
• 4:53
  lot.
• 4:55
  You
• 4:56
  know,
• 4:57
  mid
• 4:57
  April,
• 4:57
  early
• 4:58
  May,
• 4:58
  people
• 4:58
  start
• 4:59
  talking
• 4:59
  about
• 4:59
  how
• 4:59
  great
• 4:59
  the
• 5:00
  top
• 5:00
  water
• 5:00
  fishing
• 5:01
  is
• 5:01
  and
• 5:03
  they're,
• 5:05
  you
• 5:05
  know,
• 5:05
  it.
• 5:07
  You
• 5:07
  can
• 5:07
  catch
• 5:07
  a
• 5:08
  fish
• 5:08
  on
• 5:08
  a
• 5:08
  bug,
• 5:08
  you
• 5:09
  can
• 5:09
  catch
• 5:09
  a
• 5:09
  fish
• 5:09
  on
• 5:09
  a
• 5:09
  popper
• 5:10
  this
• 5:11
  time
• 5:11
  of
• 5:11
  year
• 5:13
  up
• 5:13
  under
• 5:13
  the
• 5:14
  trees,
• 5:14
  tight
• 5:14
  to
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  bank,
• 5:15
  whatever.
• 5:17
  There's
• 5:18
  fish
• 5:18
  that
• 5:18
  are
• 5:18
  eating
• 5:19
  bugs
• 5:19
  like
• 5:19
  damselflies
• 5:20
  and
• 5:20
  dragonflies
• 5:21
  and,
• 5:22
  and
• 5:22
  other
• 5:22
  things.
• 5:22
  Right
• 5:23
  now
• 5:24
  I've,
• 5:25
  I've
• 5:25
  pumped
• 5:26
  some
• 5:26
  stomachs
• 5:26
  this
• 5:26
  time
• 5:27
  of
• 5:27
  year
• 5:27
  and
• 5:27
  found
• 5:28
  stone
• 5:28
  flies
• 5:29
  and
• 5:30
  bees
• 5:31
  and,
• 5:31
  and
• 5:31
  beetles
• 5:32
  and
• 5:32
  all
• 5:32
  kinds
• 5:33
  of
• 5:33
  stuff
• 5:33
  in
• 5:33
  fish's
• 5:34
  stomachs.
• 5:35
  It's,
• 5:35
  it's,
• 5:36
  you
• 5:36
  know,
• 5:36
  it's
• 5:37
  a
• 5:37
  very
• 5:37
  viable
• 5:37
  food
• 5:38
  source
• 5:38
  for
• 5:38
  them
• 5:38
  at
• 5:39
  the
• 5:39
  moment.
• 5:39
  But
• 5:39
  you
• 5:40
  still
• 5:40
  do
• 5:42
  when
• 5:42
  you're
• 5:42
  tossing
• 5:43
  bugs,
• 5:43
  you
• 5:44
  know,
• 5:44
  tight
• 5:44
  to
• 5:45
  the
• 5:45
  bank
• 5:45
  and
• 5:45
  dead
• 5:45
  drift
• 5:46
  them.
• 5:46
  You
• 5:46
  run
• 5:46
  into
• 5:46
  a
• 5:47
  lot
• 5:47
  of
• 5:47
  males
• 5:47
  that
• 5:47
  are
• 5:48
  sitting
• 5:48
  on
• 5:48
  nests
• 5:49
  that
• 5:49
  will
• 5:49
  come
• 5:50
  up
• 5:50
  and
• 5:50
  grab
• 5:50
  those
• 5:51
  bugs
• 5:51
  just
• 5:51
  because
• 5:52
  they're
• 5:52
  kind
• 5:52
  of
• 5:52
  in
• 5:52
  their
• 5:53
  zone
• 5:53
  and
• 5:53
  not
• 5:53
  going
• 5:53
  anywhere.
• 5:55
  So
• 5:56
  you
• 5:56
  know,
• 5:56
  this
• 5:56
  time
• 5:56
  of
• 5:57
  year,
• 5:57
  whether
• 5:57
  you're
• 5:58
  streamer
• 5:58
  fishing
• 5:58
  or
• 5:59
  top
• 5:59
  water
• 5:59
  fishing,
• 6:00
  if
• 6:00
  you
• 6:01
  observe
• 6:01
  that
• 6:01
  behavior
• 6:02
  where
• 6:02
  you
• 6:03
  have
• 6:03
  fish
• 6:03
  that
• 6:04
  will
• 6:05
  kind
• 6:05
  of
• 6:05
  like
• 6:05
  lazily
• 6:06
  follow
• 6:07
  something,
• 6:08
  you
• 6:08
  know,
• 6:08
  maybe
• 6:09
  put
• 6:09
  it
• 6:09
  in
• 6:09
  their
• 6:09
  mouth,
• 6:10
  kind
• 6:10
  of
• 6:10
  lip
• 6:10
  grab
• 6:11
  it,
• 6:11
  not
• 6:11
  really
• 6:12
  scarf
• 6:12
  it
• 6:12
  down,
• 6:13
  or
• 6:14
  they
• 6:14
  follow
• 6:14
  it
• 6:14
  out
• 6:15
  8,
• 6:15
  10ft
• 6:16
  from
• 6:16
  the
• 6:16
  bank
• 6:16
  and
• 6:16
  then
• 6:17
  just
• 6:17
  kind
• 6:17
  of
• 6:17
  turn
• 6:17
  around
• 6:17
  and
• 6:18
  go
• 6:18
  back
• 6:18
  where
• 6:18
  they're,
• 6:19
  you
• 6:19
  know,
• 6:19
  where
• 6:19
  they
• 6:19
  were.
• 6:21
  A
• 6:22
  lot
• 6:22
  of
• 6:22
  times
• 6:22
  that's
• 6:22
  just
• 6:23
  defensive
• 6:24
  male
• 6:25
  behavior.
• 6:25
  And
• 6:26
  I'd
• 6:26
  encourage
• 6:27
  most
• 6:27
  people
• 6:28
  to
• 6:28
  just
• 6:28
  kind
• 6:29
  of
• 6:29
  keep
• 6:29
  moving
• 6:29
  on.
• 6:30
  You
• 6:30
  see
• 6:30
  that
• 6:30
  stuff
• 6:31
  and
• 6:31
  try
• 6:31
  not
• 6:32
  to.
• 6:33
  You
• 6:33
  know,
• 6:33
  it's
• 6:33
  really
• 6:33
  exciting
• 6:34
  when
• 6:34
  you,
• 6:34
  when
• 6:35
  you
• 6:35
  start
• 6:35
  catching
• 6:35
  a
• 6:35
  lot
• 6:35
  of
• 6:36
  like
• 6:36
  17,
• 6:36
  18
• 6:37
  inch
• 6:37
  fish
• 6:37
  on,
• 6:38
  on
• 6:38
  top
• 6:38
  water
• 6:39
  bugs
• 6:39
  this
• 6:39
  time
• 6:39
  of
• 6:39
  year.
• 6:40
  But
• 6:40
  like
• 6:41
  a
• 6:41
  lot
• 6:41
  of
• 6:41
  that
• 6:42
  is,
• 6:43
  is,
• 6:43
  is
• 6:44
  what
• 6:44
  I
• 6:44
  just
• 6:44
  described,
• 6:45
  you
• 6:45
  know,
• 6:45
  so
• 6:45
  just,
• 6:46
  just
• 6:46
  kind
• 6:46
  of
• 6:47
  keep
• 6:47
  that
• 6:47
  context
• 6:48
  in
• 6:48
  mind
• 6:49
  and
• 6:50
  you
• 6:51
  know,
• 6:51
  try
• 6:51
  not
• 6:51
  to
• 6:51
  overdo
• 6:52
  it
• 6:52
  too
• 6:52
  much.
• 6:53
  Yeah,
• 6:53
  good
• 6:53
  advice.
• 6:54
  It
• 6:54
  underscores
• 6:55
  what
• 6:55
  we
• 6:55
  heard
• 6:55
  from,
• 6:56
  I
• 6:56
  think
• 6:56
  last
• 6:56
  week
• 6:56
  from
• 6:56
  Brian
• 6:57
  Shoemaker
• 6:57
  telling
• 6:58
  people
• 6:58
  to
• 6:58
  stay
• 6:58
  away
• 6:58
  from
• 6:58
  the
• 6:59
  banks,
• 6:59
  right?
• 7:00
  Oh
• 7:00
  yeah,
• 7:00
  Brian,
• 7:01
  Brian,
• 7:01
  Brian
• 7:01
  knows
• 7:02
  what
• 7:02
  he's
• 7:02
  talking
• 7:02
  about.
• 7:02
  The
• 7:03
  same,
• 7:03
  same
• 7:03
  deal.
• 7:05
  So
• 7:05
  you
• 7:06
  know
• 7:06
  folks,
• 7:06
  we
• 7:06
  like
• 7:06
  smallmouth.
• 7:07
  You
• 7:07
  know,
• 7:07
  if
• 7:08
  you
• 7:08
  fish
• 7:08
  it
• 7:08
  kind
• 7:08
  of
• 7:08
  like,
• 7:09
  you
• 7:09
  know,
• 7:09
  we're
• 7:09
  matt
• 7:09
  guides.
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  mean
• 7:10
  we
• 7:10
  had,
• 7:10
  we
• 7:11
  had
• 7:11
  time,
• 7:11
  you
• 7:11
  know,
• 7:11
  we've
• 7:12
  had
• 7:12
  quite
• 7:12
  a
• 7:12
  few
• 7:12
  years
• 7:12
  where
• 7:12
  there's
• 7:13
  been
• 7:13
  really
• 7:13
  bad
• 7:13
  recruitment.
• 7:14
  So
• 7:14
  let's
• 7:14
  not
• 7:14
  screw
• 7:15
  it
• 7:15
  up.
• 7:15
  If
• 7:15
  we
• 7:15
  get
• 7:15
  a
• 7:15
  good
• 7:15
  year,
• 7:16
  you
• 7:17
  know,
• 7:17
  we
• 7:17
  have
• 7:17
  to
• 7:17
  take
• 7:17
  advantage
• 7:18
  of
• 7:18
  there
• 7:18
  not
• 7:18
  being
• 7:18
  a
• 7:18
  lot
• 7:18
  of
• 7:18
  rain,
• 7:19
  right.
• 7:19
  To
• 7:19
  have
• 7:19
  a
• 7:19
  good,
• 7:19
  good,
• 7:20
  good
• 7:20
  class
• 7:20
  year
• 7:21
  for
• 7:21
  smallmouth.
• 7:22
  That
• 7:22
  is
• 7:22
  potentially
• 7:23
  the
• 7:24
  one
• 7:24
  of
• 7:24
  the
• 7:24
  biggest
• 7:24
  upsides
• 7:25
  is,
• 7:26
  you
• 7:27
  know,
• 7:27
  that
• 7:27
  these
• 7:27
  years
• 7:28
  where
• 7:28
  we
• 7:28
  go
• 7:28
  into
• 7:28
  the
• 7:29
  spawn
• 7:29
  really
• 7:30
  dry
• 7:30
  are
• 7:31
  really
• 7:31
  vulnerable
• 7:32
  because,
• 7:33
  you
• 7:33
  know,
• 7:33
  it,
• 7:34
  it
• 7:34
  doesn't
• 7:34
  take
• 7:35
  a
• 7:35
  lot
• 7:35
  to
• 7:35
  blow
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  river
• 7:36
  out.
• 7:37
  Well,
• 7:38
  I
• 7:38
  mean,
• 7:38
  in
• 7:38
  a,
• 7:38
  in
• 7:38
  a
• 7:39
  sense
• 7:39
  it
• 7:39
  does
• 7:39
  because
• 7:39
  the
• 7:40
  water
• 7:40
  table
• 7:40
  is
• 7:40
  extremely
• 7:41
  low.
• 7:41
  But
• 7:42
  you
• 7:43
  know,
• 7:43
  fish,
• 7:43
  fish
• 7:44
  can
• 7:44
  kind
• 7:44
  of
• 7:44
  set
• 7:44
  up
• 7:45
  anywhere
• 7:45
  in,
• 7:46
  in
• 7:46
  certain
• 7:47
  river
• 7:47
  systems
• 7:48
  when
• 7:48
  the
• 7:48
  water's
• 7:48
  this
• 7:49
  low.
• 7:49
  I
• 7:49
  mean,
• 7:49
  I've
• 7:49
  seen
• 7:50
  them
• 7:51
  in
• 7:51
  the
• 7:51
  last
• 7:51
  couple
• 7:52
  weeks,
• 7:52
  like
• 7:53
  just
• 7:54
  low
• 7:54
  water
• 7:55
  years.
• 7:55
  You'll
• 7:55
  see
• 7:55
  a
• 7:55
  lot
• 7:56
  of
• 7:56
  fish
• 7:56
  spawning
• 7:56
  and
• 7:56
  tail
• 7:57
  outs
• 7:57
  at
• 7:57
  times
• 7:58
  just
• 7:58
  like
• 7:58
  behind
• 7:58
  a
• 7:59
  basketball
• 7:59
  size
• 8:00
  rock
• 8:01
  middle
• 8:01
  of
• 8:01
  the
• 8:02
  river,
• 8:03
  you
• 8:04
  know,
• 8:04
  just
• 8:05
  because
• 8:05
  it
• 8:06
  doesn't
• 8:06
  take
• 8:06
  a
• 8:06
  lot
• 8:07
  to
• 8:07
  protect
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  site
• 8:08
  from,
• 8:08
  from
• 8:08
  current
• 8:09
  and
• 8:10
  some
• 8:10
  of
• 8:10
  your
• 8:10
  typical
• 8:11
  kind
• 8:11
  of
• 8:12
  protected
• 8:13
  backwatery
• 8:14
  kind
• 8:15
  of
• 8:15
  spots
• 8:15
  are,
• 8:16
  are
• 8:16
  real
• 8:16
  dry
• 8:17
  and
• 8:17
  real
• 8:17
  stagnant
• 8:18
  in
• 8:18
  low
• 8:18
  water.
• 8:20
  So,
• 8:20
  you
• 8:20
  know,
• 8:20
  an
• 8:21
  inch
• 8:21
  or
• 8:21
  two
• 8:21
  of
• 8:21
  rain
• 8:22
  or,
• 8:22
  or
• 8:23
  more
• 8:23
  or
• 8:24
  for
• 8:24
  a.
• 8:25
  In,
• 8:25
  in
• 8:25
  May
• 8:26
  can,
• 8:27
  can
• 8:27
  really
• 8:27
  monkey
• 8:28
  with
• 8:28
  things.
• 8:29
  But
• 8:30
  if
• 8:30
  the
• 8:31
  prevailing
• 8:31
  pattern
• 8:32
  is
• 8:32
  no
• 8:32
  rain,
• 8:32
  then,
• 8:33
  and
• 8:33
  you,
• 8:34
  you
• 8:34
  keep
• 8:34
  that
• 8:34
  through
• 8:35
  June,
• 8:35
  then
• 8:35
  you
• 8:35
  can
• 8:36
  do
• 8:36
  pretty
• 8:36
  well.
• 8:36
  So
• 8:37
  that's,
• 8:39
  that's,
• 8:39
  that's
• 8:40
  a
• 8:40
  very,
• 8:40
  you
• 8:41
  know,
• 8:41
  big
• 8:41
  potential
• 8:42
  upside.
• 8:43
  Yeah,
• 8:43
  making
• 8:43
  a
• 8:43
  little
• 8:44
  lemonade
• 8:44
  there.
• 8:45
  I
• 8:45
  have
• 8:45
  have
• 8:45
  a
• 8:45
  question
• 8:46
  for
• 8:46
  you
• 8:46
  from
• 8:46
  Miles.
• 8:47
  And
• 8:47
  Miles
• 8:47
  is
• 8:48
  a
• 8:48
  listener,
• 8:48
  he's
• 8:49
  in
• 8:49
  college
• 8:49
  and
• 8:49
  when
• 8:50
  he
• 8:50
  gets
• 8:50
  out,
• 8:50
  he's
• 8:50
  interested
• 8:51
  in
• 8:51
  breaking
• 8:51
  into
• 8:51
  guiding
• 8:52
  and
• 8:52
  he
• 8:52
  wanted
• 8:52
  to
• 8:52
  kind
• 8:53
  of
• 8:53
  get
• 8:53
  your
• 8:54
  thoughts
• 8:54
  on
• 8:54
  kind
• 8:55
  of,
• 8:55
  you
• 8:55
  know,
• 8:55
  what's
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  best
• 8:55
  way
• 8:56
  to
• 8:56
  kind
• 8:57
  industry.
• 9:00
  Man
• 9:01
  as
• 9:02
  far
• 9:02
  as
• 9:02
  guiding
• 9:03
  specifically?
• 9:05
  I
• 9:05
  would
• 9:05
  say.
• 9:06
  Well,
• 9:06
  I'd
• 9:06
  say
• 9:06
  first
• 9:07
  off,
• 9:07
  I
• 9:07
  mean,
• 9:08
  like
• 9:08
  I've
• 9:09
  been
• 9:09
  doing
• 9:09
  this,
• 9:09
  you
• 9:10
  know,
• 9:10
  regarding
• 9:11
  some
• 9:11
  other
• 9:11
  things
• 9:12
  in
• 9:12
  my
• 9:13
  life
• 9:13
  the
• 9:13
  last
• 9:13
  week
• 9:14
  or
• 9:14
  so.
• 9:14
  You
• 9:14
  know,
• 9:15
  anytime,
• 9:16
  anytime
• 9:16
  I'm,
• 9:17
  I'm
• 9:17
  trying
• 9:17
  to
• 9:17
  navigate
• 9:18
  something
• 9:18
  I
• 9:18
  don't
• 9:19
  really
• 9:19
  know
• 9:19
  a
• 9:19
  whole
• 9:19
  lot
• 9:19
  about.
• 9:19
  I
• 9:20
  like
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  get
• 9:20
  a
• 9:20
  lot
• 9:20
  of
• 9:21
  people's
• 9:21
  different
• 9:21
  opinions
• 9:22
  because
• 9:23
  everybody's
• 9:24
  advice
• 9:24
  is
• 9:24
  just
• 9:25
  going
• 9:25
  to
• 9:25
  be
• 9:25
  based
• 9:25
  on
• 9:25
  what's,
• 9:26
  what's
• 9:27
  worked
• 9:27
  for
• 9:27
  them,
• 9:27
  what
• 9:28
  their
• 9:28
  life
• 9:28
  experience
• 9:28
  has
• 9:29
  been.
• 9:30
  So
• 9:30
  I
• 9:30
  mean,
• 9:30
  I'll
• 9:31
  say
• 9:31
  from
• 9:31
  my
• 9:31
  perspective,
• 9:35
  the,
• 9:36
  I
• 9:37
  mean,
• 9:37
  I,
• 9:37
  I
• 9:38
  started,
• 9:38
  I
• 9:39
  started
• 9:40
  writing
• 9:40
  when
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  was
• 9:41
  15,
• 9:42
  you
• 9:42
  know,
• 9:42
  professionally
• 9:43
  and
• 9:44
  over
• 9:44
  the.
• 9:45
  Probably
• 9:46
  five
• 9:48
  to
• 9:48
  seven
• 9:48
  years
• 9:49
  after
• 9:49
  that,
• 9:50
  before
• 9:50
  I
• 9:51
  started
• 9:51
  guiding,
• 9:51
  I
• 9:52
  met
• 9:52
  a
• 9:52
  lot
• 9:52
  of
• 9:52
  people
• 9:53
  and
• 9:53
  made
• 9:53
  a
• 9:53
  lot
• 9:54
  of
• 9:54
  contacts
• 9:55
  and
• 9:57
  that
• 9:57
  certainly
• 9:57
  helped.
• 9:58
  And
• 9:58
  I,
• 9:59
  I
• 9:59
  don't
• 9:59
  care
• 9:59
  what
• 10:00
  you
• 10:00
  do.
• 10:00
  It's
• 10:00
  always,
• 10:01
  it's
• 10:01
  always
• 10:01
  good
• 10:02
  to
• 10:02
  know
• 10:02
  a
• 10:02
  lot
• 10:02
  of
• 10:02
  people
• 10:03
  in
• 10:03
  that
• 10:03
  space.
• 10:05
  You
• 10:06
  know,
• 10:06
  I
• 10:06
  also
• 10:06
  had
• 10:06
  a
• 10:06
  lot
• 10:06
  of
• 10:07
  great
• 10:07
  mentors
• 10:07
  too
• 10:09
  that
• 10:09
  I
• 10:10
  sort
• 10:10
  of,
• 10:11
  sort
• 10:12
  of
• 10:12
  just
• 10:12
  stumbled
• 10:12
  into
• 10:13
  or,
• 10:14
  or
• 10:14
  seeked
• 10:14
  out
• 10:15
  to
• 10:15
  a
• 10:15
  degree.
• 10:17
  So,
• 10:17
  you
• 10:18
  know,
• 10:18
  trying
• 10:18
  to
• 10:18
  find,
• 10:19
  trying
• 10:20
  to
• 10:20
  surround
• 10:20
  yourself
• 10:20
  with
• 10:21
  people
• 10:21
  that
• 10:21
  are
• 10:21
  better
• 10:21
  than
• 10:21
  you
• 10:22
  that,
• 10:22
  that
• 10:23
  are
• 10:23
  willing
• 10:23
  to
• 10:24
  help
• 10:24
  that,
• 10:26
  you
• 10:26
  know,
• 10:26
  again
• 10:27
  from,
• 10:27
  from
• 10:28
  my
• 10:28
  life
• 10:29
  experience
• 10:29
  that
• 10:29
  are
• 10:30
  older
• 10:31
  folks
• 10:31
  that
• 10:31
  have
• 10:31
  kind
• 10:31
  of
• 10:32
  been
• 10:32
  there,
• 10:32
  done
• 10:32
  that
• 10:32
  and
• 10:33
  don't
• 10:33
  really
• 10:33
  have
• 10:33
  a
• 10:33
  whole
• 10:33
  lot
• 10:34
  to
• 10:34
  prove
• 10:34
  or
• 10:35
  probably
• 10:35
  you're
• 10:35
  better,
• 10:36
  better
• 10:36
  mentors
• 10:37
  than,
• 10:38
  you
• 10:38
  know,
• 10:38
  guys
• 10:38
  that
• 10:39
  are
• 10:39
  five
• 10:39
  years
• 10:39
  older
• 10:39
  than
• 10:40
  you
• 10:40
  that
• 10:40
  are,
• 10:40
  you
• 10:41
  know,
• 10:41
  know,
• 10:41
  slightly
• 10:42
  more
• 10:42
  than
• 10:42
  you
• 10:42
  and
• 10:42
  still
• 10:42
  trying
• 10:43
  to
• 10:43
  figure
• 10:43
  it
• 10:43
  out,
• 10:45
  which,
• 10:45
  you
• 10:46
  know,
• 10:46
  might
• 10:46
  disqualify
• 10:47
  me
• 10:47
  there.
• 10:49
  But,
• 10:51
  you
• 10:51
  know,
• 10:52
  just,
• 10:52
  just
• 10:53
  surround
• 10:53
  yourself
• 10:53
  with
• 10:54
  people
• 10:54
  that
• 10:54
  are
• 10:54
  better
• 10:54
  than
• 10:54
  you
• 10:55
  and
• 10:55
  then
• 10:55
  be,
• 10:55
  be
• 10:55
  willing
• 10:56
  to
• 10:56
  work
• 10:56
  really
• 10:56
  hard.
• 10:57
  It's
• 10:58
  definitely
• 10:58
  not
• 10:59
  easy.
• 11:00
  You're
• 11:03
  there.
• 11:03
  There's
• 11:04
  a
• 11:04
  lot
• 11:04
  of
• 11:04
  guides
• 11:04
  out
• 11:04
  there
• 11:04
  these
• 11:05
  days
• 11:07
  and
• 11:08
  they're
• 11:08
  getting
• 11:08
  better
• 11:08
  and
• 11:09
  better
• 11:11
  resources
• 11:11
  you
• 11:12
  know,
• 11:12
  educational
• 11:13
  resources
• 11:13
  are
• 11:13
  getting
• 11:14
  better
• 11:14
  and
• 11:14
  better.
• 11:14
  So
• 11:15
  it,
• 11:16
  it's,
• 11:17
  it's,
• 11:17
  it's
• 11:17
  relatively
• 11:18
  easy
• 11:18
  to
• 11:18
  learn
• 11:19
  and,
• 11:19
  and
• 11:20
  get
• 11:20
  good.
• 11:21
  And
• 11:21
  then
• 11:21
  you
• 11:21
  just
• 11:21
  got
• 11:22
  to
• 11:22
  spend
• 11:22
  a
• 11:22
  lot
• 11:23
  of
• 11:23
  time
• 11:23
  on
• 11:23
  the
• 11:23
  water
• 11:24
  because
• 11:24
  it
• 11:24
  doesn't
• 11:24
  matter
• 11:25
  how
• 11:25
  much
• 11:25
  you
• 11:25
  read
• 11:25
  or
• 11:26
  watch
• 11:26
  on
• 11:26
  YouTube
• 11:27
  or
• 11:27
  somebody
• 11:28
  tells
• 11:28
  you
• 11:30
  half
• 11:30
  the
• 11:30
  time
• 11:30
  that
• 11:30
  stuff
• 11:31
  isn't
• 11:31
  right,
• 11:31
  you
• 11:32
  know,
• 11:32
  or
• 11:32
  it
• 11:32
  doesn't
• 11:33
  work
• 11:33
  in
• 11:33
  your
• 11:33
  fishery.
• 11:37
  You
• 11:37
  know,
• 11:37
  you've
• 11:38
  just,
• 11:38
  you've
• 11:38
  just
• 11:38
  got
• 11:38
  to
• 11:39
  figure
• 11:39
  it
• 11:39
  out
• 11:40
  on
• 11:40
  your
• 11:40
  own
• 11:40
  to
• 11:41
  some
• 11:41
  degree.
• 11:41
  You
• 11:42
  know,
• 11:42
  I
• 11:42
  talk
• 11:42
  about
• 11:43
  context
• 11:44
  a
• 11:44
  lot.
• 11:44
  You
• 11:45
  want
• 11:45
  to
• 11:45
  learn
• 11:45
  as
• 11:46
  much
• 11:46
  as
• 11:46
  you
• 11:46
  can,
• 11:46
  try
• 11:47
  to
• 11:47
  get
• 11:47
  as
• 11:47
  many
• 11:47
  ideas
• 11:48
  in
• 11:48
  your
• 11:48
  head
• 11:48
  as
• 11:48
  possible
• 11:49
  and
• 11:49
  then
• 11:49
  go
• 11:49
  out
• 11:50
  and
• 11:50
  see
• 11:50
  what
• 11:50
  you
• 11:50
  see
• 11:51
  and
• 11:51
  you
• 11:52
  know,
• 11:52
  try
• 11:52
  to
• 11:52
  decide
• 11:53
  what,
• 11:53
  what
• 11:53
  works
• 11:54
  and
• 11:54
  what
• 11:54
  doesn't.
• 11:57
  And
• 11:58
  gosh,
• 11:58
  in
• 11:59
  terms
• 11:59
  of
• 11:59
  like,
• 12:02
  you
• 12:02
  know,
• 12:03
  one
• 12:03
  thing
• 12:03
  that
• 12:03
  I,
• 12:04
  I
• 12:04
  definitely
• 12:04
  have
• 12:05
  going
• 12:05
  for
• 12:05
  me
• 12:05
  is
• 12:06
  the
• 12:06
  fact
• 12:06
  that
• 12:07
  I,
• 12:07
  I
• 12:08
  have
• 12:08
  year
• 12:08
  round
• 12:08
  fisheries
• 12:09
  that
• 12:09
  are,
• 12:09
  that
• 12:10
  are
• 12:10
  pretty
• 12:10
  good.
• 12:11
  I
• 12:11
  also
• 12:11
  live
• 12:12
  in
• 12:12
  a
• 12:12
  place
• 12:12
  that
• 12:12
  has
• 12:13
  a
• 12:13
  relatively
• 12:13
  low
• 12:13
  cost
• 12:14
  of
• 12:14
  living.
• 12:15
  So,
• 12:16
  you
• 12:16
  know,
• 12:16
  it'd
• 12:17
  be
• 12:17
  really
• 12:17
  hard
• 12:17
  for,
• 12:18
  you
• 12:19
  know,
• 12:19
  me
• 12:20
  to
• 12:20
  have,
• 12:21
  you
• 12:21
  know,
• 12:21
  two
• 12:22
  kids
• 12:22
  and
• 12:23
  a
• 12:23
  wife
• 12:23
  and
• 12:24
  guide
• 12:25
  full
• 12:25
  time
• 12:26
  and,
• 12:26
  and
• 12:27
  you
• 12:27
  know,
• 12:29
  more
• 12:29
  or
• 12:29
  less
• 12:30
  make
• 12:30
  it
• 12:31
  live
• 12:32
  in
• 12:32
  some
• 12:32
  place
• 12:33
  like
• 12:33
  Northern
• 12:33
  Virginia
• 12:34
  or,
• 12:35
  you
• 12:35
  know,
• 12:35
  someplace
• 12:36
  with
• 12:36
  a
• 12:36
  much
• 12:36
  higher
• 12:37
  cost
• 12:37
  of
• 12:37
  living.
• 12:38
  So
• 12:38
  that's,
• 12:38
  that's
• 12:39
  worth
• 12:39
  thinking
• 12:39
  about.
• 12:41
  Like
• 12:41
  I
• 12:41
  said,
• 12:41
  I
• 12:42
  can,
• 12:42
  can
• 12:42
  guide
• 12:43
  year
• 12:43
  round.
• 12:43
  I
• 12:43
  pretty
• 12:44
  much
• 12:44
  have
• 12:44
  something
• 12:44
  going
• 12:45
  on
• 12:45
  every
• 12:45
  day
• 12:45
  of
• 12:46
  the
• 12:46
  year.
• 12:46
  So
• 12:47
  if
• 12:47
  you
• 12:48
  get
• 12:48
  a,
• 12:48
  get
• 12:49
  a
• 12:49
  big
• 12:49
  blowout
• 12:50
  in,
• 12:50
  in
• 12:50
  May
• 12:51
  and
• 12:51
  lose
• 12:51
  a
• 12:51
  couple
• 12:52
  weeks,
• 12:52
  you
• 12:52
  know,
• 12:53
  your
• 12:53
  season
• 12:53
  doesn't
• 12:53
  end
• 12:54
  in
• 12:54
  October.
• 12:55
  You
• 12:55
  got
• 12:55
  musky
• 12:56
  season
• 12:56
  or
• 12:57
  striper
• 12:58
  season
• 12:58
  or,
• 12:59
  or
• 12:59
  trout
• 12:59
  season
• 13:00
  or,
• 13:00
  you
• 13:00
  know,
• 13:00
  whatever
• 13:01
  you're
• 13:01
  doing
• 13:01
  in
• 13:01
  the
• 13:01
  wintertime.
• 13:05
  And
• 13:07
  gosh,
• 13:07
  the
• 13:07
  other
• 13:07
  big
• 13:08
  thing
• 13:08
  is
• 13:08
  just
• 13:09
  diversification.
• 13:10
  You
• 13:10
  know,
• 13:11
  I,
• 13:11
  like
• 13:12
  I
• 13:12
  said,
• 13:12
  I
• 13:12
  do
• 13:12
  a
• 13:12
  lot
• 13:13
  of
• 13:13
  writing.
• 13:14
  I
• 13:14
  do,
• 13:14
  I
• 13:14
  do
• 13:15
  a
• 13:15
  lot
• 13:15
  less
• 13:15
  now
• 13:16
  than
• 13:16
  I
• 13:16
  used
• 13:16
  to,
• 13:18
  but
• 13:18
  it's
• 13:19
  always
• 13:19
  something
• 13:20
  to
• 13:20
  do
• 13:21
  if,
• 13:23
  you
• 13:23
  know,
• 13:23
  I
• 13:23
  find
• 13:23
  myself
• 13:24
  with
• 13:24
  a
• 13:24
  frozen
• 13:24
  river
• 13:25
  in
• 13:25
  the
• 13:25
  wintertime
• 13:26
  and,
• 13:26
  and
• 13:27
  you
• 13:27
  know,
• 13:27
  caught
• 13:27
  up
• 13:28
  on
• 13:28
  all
• 13:28
  my
• 13:28
  chores
• 13:29
  and
• 13:30
  you
• 13:30
  know,
• 13:30
  needing
• 13:31
  something
• 13:31
  to
• 13:31
  make
• 13:31
  some
• 13:32
  money.
• 13:32
  So
• 13:33
  that's,
• 13:34
  that's
• 13:34
  always
• 13:34
  nice.
• 13:35
  You
• 13:35
  know,
• 13:35
  you're
• 13:35
  not
• 13:35
  just
• 13:36
  tied
• 13:36
  to
• 13:36
  one
• 13:36
  single
• 13:37
  stream
• 13:37
  of
• 13:37
  income
• 13:40
  and
• 13:41
  gosh,
• 13:41
  I
• 13:41
  could
• 13:41
  ramble
• 13:42
  about
• 13:42
  this
• 13:42
  for
• 13:42
  a
• 13:43
  while.
• 13:44
  Yeah,
• 13:45
  well,
• 13:45
  I
• 13:45
  told
• 13:45
  you
• 13:45
  we
• 13:45
  could
• 13:46
  literally
• 13:46
  talk
• 13:46
  about
• 13:46
  it
• 13:47
  for
• 13:47
  90
• 13:47
  minutes
• 13:47
  and
• 13:47
  put
• 13:48
  out
• 13:48
  a
• 13:48
  separate
• 13:48
  podcast
• 13:49
  episode.
• 13:49
  Yeah,
• 13:50
  maybe
• 13:50
  sometime
• 13:51
  when
• 13:51
  you,
• 13:52
  the
• 13:52
  rivers
• 13:52
  get
• 13:52
  blown
• 13:52
  out,
• 13:53
  when
• 13:53
  the
• 13:53
  levy
• 13:53
  does
• 13:53
  break,
• 13:54
  we
• 13:54
  can
• 13:54
  do
• 13:54
  that.
• 13:54
  But
• 13:55
  you
• 13:55
  know,
• 13:55
  kind
• 13:55
  of
• 13:56
  underscoring
• 13:56
  kind
• 13:56
  of
• 13:56
  one
• 13:57
  of
• 13:57
  the
• 13:57
  points
• 13:58
  you
• 13:58
  were
• 13:58
  making
• 13:58
  about
• 13:59
  talking
• 13:59
  to
• 13:59
  a
• 13:59
  Lot
• 13:59
  of
• 13:59
  different
• 13:59
  people.
• 14:00
  I
• 14:00
  think
• 14:00
  it's
• 14:00
  really
• 14:01
  important
• 14:01
  and
• 14:01
  sometimes
• 14:01
  I
• 14:02
  think
• 14:03
  younger
• 14:04
  people
• 14:04
  don't
• 14:04
  realize
• 14:04
  this,
• 14:05
  but
• 14:05
  you
• 14:05
  got
• 14:05
  to
• 14:05
  understand
• 14:05
  the
• 14:06
  difference
• 14:06
  between
• 14:06
  being
• 14:07
  somebody
• 14:07
  like
• 14:07
  Matt,
• 14:08
  who's
• 14:08
  like
• 14:08
  making
• 14:09
  most
• 14:09
  of
• 14:10
  his
• 14:10
  income
• 14:10
  guiding.
• 14:10
  And
• 14:11
  then
• 14:11
  there
• 14:11
  are
• 14:11
  other
• 14:11
  people
• 14:12
  that
• 14:12
  are
• 14:12
  super
• 14:12
  passionate
• 14:13
  and
• 14:13
  they're
• 14:13
  good,
• 14:14
  but
• 14:14
  it's
• 14:15
  not
• 14:15
  their
• 14:15
  primary
• 14:15
  source
• 14:16
  of
• 14:16
  income.
• 14:17
  And
• 14:18
  the
• 14:18
  decisions
• 14:19
  they
• 14:19
  make
• 14:19
  guiding
• 14:19
  are
• 14:20
  different
• 14:20
  based
• 14:20
  upon
• 14:21
  the
• 14:21
  fact
• 14:21
  that
• 14:21
  they
• 14:21
  don't
• 14:21
  need
• 14:22
  to
• 14:22
  put
• 14:22
  food
• 14:22
  on
• 14:22
  the
• 14:22
  table
• 14:23
  by
• 14:23
  going
• 14:23
  and
• 14:23
  ch
• 14:24
  and
• 14:24
  fish.
• 14:25
  Correct.
• 14:27
  And
• 14:29
  oh
• 14:29
  gosh,
• 14:30
  you
• 14:30
  just
• 14:30
  put
• 14:30
  another
• 14:31
  thought
• 14:31
  in
• 14:32
  my
• 14:32
  head.
• 14:34
  You
• 14:34
  know,
• 14:35
  I,
• 14:35
  I
• 14:35
  would
• 14:35
  say
• 14:35
  a
• 14:36
  big
• 14:36
  thing
• 14:36
  too
• 14:36
  that
• 14:38
  I
• 14:39
  don't
• 14:39
  know.
• 14:39
  You
• 14:39
  know,
• 14:39
  I
• 14:40
  think
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  Internet
• 14:40
  makes
• 14:41
  a
• 14:41
  little
• 14:41
  bit
• 14:42
  tougher,
• 14:42
  maybe
• 14:44
  every
• 14:44
  day,
• 14:44
  maybe
• 14:45
  a
• 14:45
  little
• 14:45
  bit
• 14:45
  easier.
• 14:46
  Is,
• 14:47
  you
• 14:47
  know,
• 14:47
  you
• 14:48
  do,
• 14:48
  you
• 14:48
  do
• 14:49
  want
• 14:49
  to
• 14:49
  learn
• 14:49
  from
• 14:49
  folks
• 14:50
  and
• 14:50
  you
• 14:50
  want
• 14:50
  to
• 14:50
  talk
• 14:51
  to
• 14:51
  as
• 14:51
  many
• 14:51
  people
• 14:51
  as
• 14:52
  possible.
• 14:52
  But
• 14:52
  at
• 14:52
  the
• 14:52
  end
• 14:52
  of
• 14:53
  the
• 14:53
  day,
• 14:54
  you
• 14:54
  know,
• 14:55
  guiding
• 14:55
  is,
• 14:56
  is
• 14:58
  at
• 14:58
  least
• 14:58
  the
• 14:58
  way
• 14:58
  I
• 14:59
  do
• 15:00
  is
• 15:00
  about,
• 15:00
  it
• 15:01
  is
• 15:01
  about
• 15:01
  catching
• 15:01
  fish,
• 15:02
  but
• 15:02
  it's
• 15:02
  also
• 15:02
  about
• 15:03
  the,
• 15:03
  it's
• 15:04
  also
• 15:04
  about
• 15:04
  the
• 15:04
  places
• 15:05
  and,
• 15:06
  and
• 15:06
  the
• 15:06
  fish
• 15:07
  and
• 15:07
  the
• 15:07
  people.
• 15:07
  And
• 15:09
  you
• 15:09
  just,
• 15:10
  you,
• 15:10
  you
• 15:10
  want
• 15:10
  to
• 15:11
  be
• 15:11
  as
• 15:11
  authentic
• 15:12
  as
• 15:12
  possible.
• 15:13
  And
• 15:13
  you
• 15:13
  also
• 15:14
  have
• 15:15
  to,
• 15:15
  you
• 15:16
  know,
• 15:16
  I,
• 15:16
  I
• 15:17
  say
• 15:17
  this
• 15:17
  a
• 15:17
  lot
• 15:17
  to
• 15:18
  a
• 15:18
  bunch
• 15:19
  of
• 15:19
  different
• 15:19
  people
• 15:19
  who
• 15:19
  probably,
• 15:20
  you
• 15:20
  know,
• 15:20
  don't
• 15:21
  care
• 15:21
  one
• 15:21
  bit.
• 15:22
  But
• 15:23
  if,
• 15:24
  if
• 15:24
  you
• 15:24
  were,
• 15:24
  if
• 15:25
  you
• 15:25
  were
• 15:25
  going
• 15:25
  to
• 15:26
  guide
• 15:28
  as
• 15:28
  a
• 15:28
  career,
• 15:30
  obviously
• 15:31
  you
• 15:31
  have
• 15:31
  to
• 15:31
  make
• 15:31
  money.
• 15:31
  You
• 15:32
  know,
• 15:32
  you've
• 15:32
  got
• 15:32
  to
• 15:32
  figure
• 15:32
  out
• 15:33
  how
• 15:33
  to
• 15:33
  make
• 15:33
  it
• 15:33
  sustainable.
• 15:36
  But
• 15:36
  assuming
• 15:37
  you've
• 15:37
  done
• 15:38
  that,
• 15:38
  you
• 15:39
  know,
• 15:39
  there's
• 15:39
  three
• 15:39
  different
• 15:40
  things
• 15:40
  that
• 15:40
  kind
• 15:41
  of
• 15:41
  drive
• 15:42
  your
• 15:42
  decision
• 15:42
  making
• 15:43
  process
• 15:43
  from
• 15:43
  day
• 15:44
  to
• 15:44
  day.
• 15:44
  One
• 15:44
  is,
• 15:45
  you
• 15:46
  know,
• 15:46
  one
• 15:46
  is
• 15:46
  making
• 15:47
  money.
• 15:48
  One
• 15:48
  is
• 15:48
  respecting
• 15:49
  your,
• 15:49
  your,
• 15:49
  your
• 15:50
  customers
• 15:50
  and
• 15:50
  your
• 15:51
  people.
• 15:52
  Because
• 15:52
  at
• 15:52
  the
• 15:52
  end
• 15:52
  of
• 15:52
  the
• 15:53
  day,
• 15:53
  if
• 15:53
  you
• 15:53
  want
• 15:53
  to
• 15:53
  be,
• 15:54
  you
• 15:54
  know,
• 15:55
  long
• 15:55
  lived
• 15:56
  in,
• 15:56
  in
• 15:57
  that
• 15:57
  career,
• 15:58
  you
• 15:58
  need
• 15:58
  to
• 15:58
  treat
• 15:58
  people
• 15:59
  well,
• 15:59
  you
• 15:59
  need
• 15:59
  to
• 15:59
  have
• 16:00
  repeat
• 16:00
  business,
• 16:01
  you
• 16:02
  need
• 16:02
  to
• 16:02
  get
• 16:02
  referrals.
• 16:04
  And
• 16:05
  the
• 16:06
  other
• 16:06
  one
• 16:06
  is,
• 16:06
  is
• 16:06
  your
• 16:07
  fisheries.
• 16:07
  You
• 16:07
  know,
• 16:08
  you
• 16:08
  can't,
• 16:09
  you
• 16:09
  can't
• 16:10
  be
• 16:10
  abusing
• 16:11
  them,
• 16:11
  harming,
• 16:12
  harming
• 16:12
  the
• 16:13
  resource,
• 16:15
  putting
• 16:15
  things
• 16:15
  that
• 16:16
  can't
• 16:16
  take
• 16:16
  it
• 16:16
  on
• 16:16
  blast.
• 16:18
  And
• 16:19
  you
• 16:19
  know,
• 16:19
  of
• 16:20
  those
• 16:20
  three,
• 16:20
  making,
• 16:21
  making
• 16:21
  money
• 16:22
  kind
• 16:22
  of
• 16:22
  needs
• 16:22
  to
• 16:22
  be
• 16:22
  the
• 16:22
  last
• 16:23
  thing
• 16:23
  that
• 16:23
  you
• 16:24
  use
• 16:24
  to
• 16:25
  make
• 16:25
  your
• 16:25
  decisions.
• 16:25
  You
• 16:26
  know,
• 16:26
  those
• 16:26
  other
• 16:26
  two
• 16:26
  things
• 16:27
  are
• 16:27
  way
• 16:27
  more
• 16:27
  important
• 16:29
  and
• 16:29
  sometimes
• 16:30
  that
• 16:30
  hurts
• 16:30
  you.
• 16:31
  And,
• 16:32
  but
• 16:32
  I
• 16:32
  tend
• 16:33
  to
• 16:33
  think
• 16:33
  in
• 16:33
  the
• 16:33
  long
• 16:33
  run
• 16:33
  it's
• 16:34
  definitely
• 16:34
  going
• 16:34
  to
• 16:34
  help
• 16:34
  you,
• 16:35
  you
• 16:35
  know,
• 16:36
  but
• 16:36
  day
• 16:37
  to
• 16:37
  day,
• 16:37
  you
• 16:37
  know,
• 16:38
  you
• 16:38
  can't
• 16:38
  be,
• 16:39
  can't
• 16:39
  be
• 16:39
  putting
• 16:39
  people
• 16:40
  on
• 16:40
  the
• 16:40
  water
• 16:40
  on
• 16:41
  days
• 16:41
  that
• 16:41
  you
• 16:41
  shouldn't
• 16:42
  be
• 16:42
  getting
• 16:42
  on
• 16:42
  the
• 16:42
  water.
• 16:43
  You
• 16:43
  know,
• 16:43
  you
• 16:43
  need
• 16:44
  to
• 16:44
  Know
• 16:44
  what
• 16:44
  you're
• 16:44
  talking
• 16:44
  about.
• 16:45
  So
• 16:45
  you're
• 16:45
  not,
• 16:46
  you
• 16:46
  know,
• 16:46
  putting
• 16:47
  people
• 16:47
  on
• 16:47
  the
• 16:47
  river
• 16:48
  to
• 16:48
  do
• 16:48
  something
• 16:48
  that,
• 16:50
  like
• 16:52
  cicada
• 16:53
  fishing
• 16:53
  or
• 16:53
  something
• 16:53
  when
• 16:54
  there's
• 16:54
  no
• 16:54
  situation
• 16:55
  to
• 16:55
  be
• 16:55
  had.
• 16:56
  You
• 16:56
  know,
• 16:57
  you,
• 16:58
  you,
• 16:59
  you
• 16:59
  just,
• 16:59
  you,
• 17:00
  you
• 17:00
  gotta,
• 17:00
  you
• 17:00
  gotta
• 17:01
  think
• 17:01
  about
• 17:01
  those
• 17:01
  other
• 17:01
  two
• 17:02
  things
• 17:02
  first.
• 17:03
  Um,
• 17:04
  and
• 17:04
  again,
• 17:04
  I
• 17:04
  think
• 17:04
  that's
• 17:05
  just
• 17:05
  key
• 17:06
  to,
• 17:08
  not
• 17:08
  that
• 17:08
  I
• 17:08
  make
• 17:08
  the
• 17:09
  rules,
• 17:09
  but
• 17:10
  key
• 17:10
  to
• 17:10
  doing
• 17:11
  it
• 17:11
  the
• 17:11
  way
• 17:11
  that
• 17:11
  it
• 17:12
  should
• 17:12
  be
• 17:12
  done
• 17:12
  and,
• 17:13
  and
• 17:13
  having
• 17:13
  a
• 17:14
  business
• 17:14
  that,
• 17:14
  that
• 17:15
  sticks
• 17:16
  around,
• 17:16
  you
• 17:17
  know?
• 17:17
  Yeah,
• 17:17
  absolutely.
• 17:18
  All
• 17:18
  good
• 17:18
  advice,
• 17:19
  Miles.
• 17:19
  I
• 17:19
  hope
• 17:19
  that
• 17:20
  helps.
• 17:20
  And
• 17:20
  you
• 17:20
  know,
• 17:20
  folks,
• 17:21
  we
• 17:21
  love
• 17:21
  questions
• 17:22
  on
• 17:22
  the
• 17:22
  articulate
• 17:22
  fly.
• 17:23
  You
• 17:23
  can
• 17:23
  email
• 17:23
  me
• 17:23
  or
• 17:23
  DM
• 17:24
  me
• 17:24
  on
• 17:24
  social
• 17:24
  media,
• 17:25
  whatever
• 17:25
  is
• 17:26
  easiest
• 17:26
  for
• 17:26
  you.
• 17:26
  And
• 17:26
  if
• 17:26
  you
• 17:26
  use
• 17:27
  your
• 17:27
  question,
• 17:27
  I
• 17:27
  will
• 17:27
  send
• 17:28
  you
• 17:28
  some
• 17:28
  articulate
• 17:28
  fly
• 17:29
  swag
• 17:29
  you're
• 17:30
  drawing
• 17:30
  for
• 17:30
  some
• 17:30
  cool
• 17:31
  stuff
• 17:31
  from
• 17:31
  Matt
• 17:31
  at
• 17:31
  the
• 17:31
  end
• 17:31
  of
• 17:31
  the
• 17:31
  season.
• 17:32
  And
• 17:32
  I
• 17:32
  know
• 17:32
  Matt,
• 17:32
  you,
• 17:33
  you
• 17:34
  sent
• 17:34
  out
• 17:34
  an
• 17:34
  email,
• 17:34
  I
• 17:35
  don't
• 17:35
  know,
• 17:35
  less
• 17:35
  than
• 17:35
  a
• 17:35
  week
• 17:35
  ago
• 17:35
  with
• 17:36
  a
• 17:36
  handful
• 17:36
  of
• 17:36
  smallmouth
• 17:37
  dates.
• 17:37
  And
• 17:37
  you
• 17:37
  told
• 17:37
  me
• 17:37
  you've
• 17:37
  already
• 17:38
  booked
• 17:38
  out
• 17:38
  most
• 17:38
  of
• 17:38
  those.
• 17:38
  So
• 17:39
  you
• 17:39
  want
• 17:39
  to
• 17:39
  let
• 17:39
  folks
• 17:39
  know
• 17:40
  kind
• 17:40
  of
• 17:40
  where
• 17:41
  the
• 17:41
  open
• 17:41
  spaces
• 17:41
  are.
• 17:42
  They're
• 17:42
  probably
• 17:42
  pretty
• 17:42
  late
• 17:43
  in
• 17:43
  the
• 17:43
  summer.
• 17:43
  October
• 17:44
  and
• 17:44
  how
• 17:45
  to
• 17:45
  get
• 17:45
  in
• 17:45
  touch
• 17:45
  and
• 17:45
  all
• 17:45
  that
• 17:46
  kind
• 17:46
  of
• 17:46
  good
• 17:46
  stuff.
• 17:47
  Yeah,
• 17:48
  yeah,
• 17:49
  I've
• 17:49
  got
• 17:49
  a
• 17:50
  smattering
• 17:51
  of
• 17:51
  things.
• 17:52
  And
• 17:52
  in
• 17:53
  May
• 17:53
  and
• 17:53
  June,
• 17:54
  July,
• 17:56
  those
• 17:56
  May
• 17:56
  dates
• 17:57
  are
• 17:57
  kind
• 17:57
  of
• 17:57
  just
• 17:57
  the,
• 17:58
  the
• 17:59
  burnt
• 18:00
  ends
• 18:00
  of
• 18:01
  the
• 18:01
  striper
• 18:01
  run
• 18:02
  there
• 18:02
  that
• 18:02
  I
• 18:02
  was
• 18:03
  trying
• 18:03
  to
• 18:03
  salvage.
• 18:06
  And
• 18:08
  yeah,
• 18:08
  you
• 18:08
  know,
• 18:09
  I,
• 18:09
  I,
• 18:09
  I
• 18:09
  say
• 18:10
  it
• 18:10
  all
• 18:10
  the
• 18:10
  time,
• 18:10
  but
• 18:11
  people
• 18:11
  cancel
• 18:11
  and
• 18:12
  things
• 18:12
  change.
• 18:13
  So
• 18:14
  if
• 18:14
  you're
• 18:14
  looking
• 18:15
  to
• 18:15
  get
• 18:15
  out
• 18:15
  on
• 18:15
  the
• 18:15
  water,
• 18:15
  definitely
• 18:16
  reach
• 18:16
  out,
• 18:17
  but,
• 18:18
  you
• 18:18
  know,
• 18:18
  yeah,
• 18:19
  there's
• 18:19
  a
• 18:19
  couple,
• 18:19
  couple
• 18:20
  opportunities
• 18:21
  during,
• 18:22
  you
• 18:22
  know,
• 18:22
  it
• 18:22
  should
• 18:22
  be
• 18:23
  prime
• 18:23
  bug
• 18:23
  season
• 18:25
  and
• 18:25
  then,
• 18:27
  you
• 18:27
  know,
• 18:27
  for
• 18:27
  your
• 18:28
  conventional
• 18:29
  anglers
• 18:30
  or,
• 18:30
  or,
• 18:31
  you
• 18:31
  know,
• 18:32
  just
• 18:32
  folks
• 18:33
  that
• 18:33
  want
• 18:33
  to
• 18:33
  get
• 18:33
  out
• 18:34
  on
• 18:34
  the
• 18:34
  water,
• 18:35
  you
• 18:35
  know,
• 18:35
  May,
• 18:35
  June,
• 18:36
  early
• 18:37
  July
• 18:37
  is,
• 18:38
  as
• 18:38
  I
• 18:38
  mentioned,
• 18:38
  is
• 18:39
  kind
• 18:39
  of
• 18:39
  just
• 18:39
  a
• 18:39
  grab
• 18:40
  bag
• 18:41
  this
• 18:41
  year.
• 18:41
  We'll
• 18:41
  probably
• 18:42
  be
• 18:42
  doing
• 18:42
  a
• 18:42
  lot
• 18:42
  of
• 18:42
  top
• 18:43
  water
• 18:43
  fishing
• 18:43
  through
• 18:44
  that
• 18:44
  time
• 18:44
  frame
• 18:44
  just
• 18:45
  because
• 18:45
  it's
• 18:45
  going
• 18:45
  to
• 18:46
  be
• 18:46
  low
• 18:46
  and
• 18:46
  clear
• 18:46
  unless
• 18:47
  something
• 18:47
  changes
• 18:48
  dramatically.
• 18:50
  So
• 18:51
  there's
• 18:51
  another,
• 18:51
  there's
• 18:52
  another
• 18:52
  upside.
• 18:53
  Yeah.
• 18:54
  Well,
• 18:54
  there
• 18:54
  you
• 18:54
  go.
• 18:54
  Well,
• 18:55
  listen,
• 18:55
  folks,
• 18:55
  you
• 18:55
  owe
• 18:55
  it
• 18:56
  yourself
• 18:56
  to
• 18:56
  get
• 18:56
  out
• 18:56
  there
• 18:56
  and
• 18:57
  catch
• 18:57
  a
• 18:57
  few
• 18:58
  tight
• 18:58
  lines,
• 18:58
  everybody.
• 18:59
  Tight
• 18:59
  lines.
• 19:00
  Matt.
• 19:00
  Hey,
• 19:01
  thanks,
• 19:01
  man.