Latest / Foul Territory / FT Postgame Reax: EPIC Blue Jays Game 7 comeback win over Seattle vaults Toronto to the World Series
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- 0:03Speaker 1: What a freaking game.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Seven.
- 0:05Speaker 1: It's the live FOTS game, though it's presented by Fox One.
- 0:08Speaker 1: You've got the OG career here, bron Aj Kratz. Let's
- 0:12Speaker 1: do this. George Springer swings the Toronto Blue Jays back
- 0:16Speaker 1: into the World Series for the first time since nineteen
- 0:20Speaker 1: ninety three. Dude, that was good. That was That was
- 0:23Speaker 1: the whole way come back win for the team that
- 0:26Speaker 1: comes back and wins more games than any MLBAT.
- 0:28Speaker 3: It's unbelievable, is what it is. It was a great game.
- 0:33Speaker 3: There are so many things to talk about. I mean,
- 0:35Speaker 3: where's Munos? Where's Brash in that situation? Lead off walk
- 0:38Speaker 3: with Brian wu Oh, I mean did you leave? I
- 0:43Speaker 3: was sitting there going you got to get b R
- 0:45Speaker 3: out of the game. You got to get b R
- 0:46Speaker 3: out of the game. He got him out in just
- 0:49Speaker 3: in time. And Louis Varland, who's arm literally is about
- 0:52Speaker 3: to probably fall off at this point. What do you
- 0:54Speaker 3: think said they've had ten playoff games, he's thrown in
- 0:56Speaker 3: nine of them. From eleven they son and nine. I
- 1:02Speaker 3: mean that's ridiculous. I mean, like I joked around earlier
- 1:04Speaker 3: on FT, I think he probably threw a simulated game
- 1:07Speaker 3: on the off day, just to make sure he felt normal.
- 1:09Speaker 3: I mean, he gets a few days off now. But
- 1:12Speaker 3: congratulations to the Blue Jays. I mean congrat wow. I
- 1:16Speaker 3: mean the Mariners were so close to their first one ever,
- 1:20Speaker 3: so close. I had my Maya copa. I hope you
- 1:23Speaker 3: had your Maya copa ready, because I have my Maya
- 1:24Speaker 3: copa ready for the Mariners because we mocked them and
- 1:30Speaker 3: we said it and we said it, and I was like,
- 1:31Speaker 3: if they make the World Series, you know what, they
- 1:33Speaker 3: did it right? But they did. They only won the
- 1:37Speaker 3: playoff of their playoff. They were six and six.
- 1:40Speaker 1: It's true. The Toronto Blue Jays get to experience World
- 1:45Speaker 1: Series baseball for the first time in a long damn time. Crats,
- 1:48Speaker 1: you played for this team. How cool is this?
- 1:51Speaker 2: I was drafted by this team. It's so cool. My
- 1:53Speaker 2: first roommate ever, John Schneider, my first trainer ever, Vood Chung.
- 1:57Speaker 2: My second favorite trainer ever, Jose Ministraul. Like Pete Walker's
- 2:02Speaker 2: been there. Pete Walker was a player in Big League
- 2:05Speaker 2: camp when I was there, and now he is a
- 2:10Speaker 2: the pitching coach that I think the longest tenured pitching
- 2:12Speaker 2: coach in the Big leagues. He's getting there. De Marlo Hale,
- 2:17Speaker 2: He's going to the World Series, like you're I'm just
- 2:20Speaker 2: excited for so many of the guys that are on
- 2:22Speaker 2: that team, Like one of one of my teams is
- 2:25Speaker 2: still left in the postseason.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Give me the goods on the game. We gotta start
- 2:30Speaker 1: with Springer, like, tell me what's going on here. Bizardo
- 2:33Speaker 1: comes in the game first, the positive side of things right,
- 2:35Speaker 1: and then we can smash Dan Wilson's ridiculously bad decision.
- 2:39Speaker 1: But for George Springer gets a somewhat middle middle fastball
- 2:44Speaker 1: and he did what he was supposed to.
- 2:46Speaker 3: Funny though, the last since he got hitting the knee.
- 2:49Speaker 3: These last two games, he looked late. He was like
- 2:51Speaker 3: late late, late, late, and under late and under. That
- 2:54Speaker 3: was the first one he was on time for. He
- 2:56Speaker 3: didn't miss it. It was it was ridiculous, were absolutely ridiculous.
- 3:01Speaker 2: The stat at the end is ridiculous to me. The
- 3:04Speaker 2: stat at the end, he's tied third all time for
- 3:08Speaker 2: his ninth tying or go ahead home run in the postseason,
- 3:15Speaker 2: ninth ninth times. That is a crazy number. So it's
- 3:19Speaker 2: almost like we said it on FT like a guy
- 3:23Speaker 2: like George Springer. That's why they brought him in for
- 3:25Speaker 2: playoff you know, his playoff clutchness, even though he wasn't
- 3:29Speaker 2: having good years other years. And now they make it
- 3:31Speaker 2: to the playoffs partially on his back because he had
- 3:33Speaker 2: an incredible regular season. You're like, you knew he was
- 3:37Speaker 2: going to do it. But then you're like, no, way,
- 3:39Speaker 2: like cal Raley, it's the year of cal It's a
- 3:42Speaker 2: year of cal Rawley, Like he's already put their team ahead.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Of course cal Rally would, and then George just comes
- 3:48Speaker 2: out of nowhere and.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Unbelievable comes out of nowhere. This season. George, Yeah, looked like.
- 3:56Speaker 3: He had an unbelievable year the Twilight.
- 4:00Speaker 1: He came back his top five hitter in the American
- 4:04Speaker 1: League for sure. I mean he's going to be I
- 4:06Speaker 1: think top five l MBP in the American League. Like
- 4:10Speaker 1: he was that good.
- 4:11Speaker 3: Good thing. They didn't give the Yankees the division.
- 4:15Speaker 1: For real.
- 4:16Speaker 3: They finished strong, I mean Baseball, Major League Baseball.
- 4:19Speaker 1: Oh, but also winning the division really did help, by.
- 4:27Speaker 3: Word series for Louis Ireland.
- 4:31Speaker 2: That's that's the only person that needed to win the division.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Louis Arland's like, had we played three more games, I'd
- 4:37Speaker 2: be cooked. I'd be washed.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Bro, what they're about to play four to seven more?
- 4:45Speaker 2: Say, if he had to play in the wild card,
- 4:48Speaker 2: that would have been three more games that he would
- 4:50Speaker 2: have had to play in.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Exactly. They might construct their decision making differently next rounds
- 4:57Speaker 1: because there are some things that just don't seem to
- 4:59Speaker 1: be working. Well, can I get a little more Chris.
- 5:02Speaker 3: Bassett in that we get somewhere, Sir Anthony, He's been
- 5:04Speaker 3: pretty good too.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Let's switch it up.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing against the Dodgers. You're gonna have
- 5:10Speaker 3: to use flu Hardy, You're gonna have to use little
- 5:13Speaker 3: because show hey freddye Max, those lefties. You're gonna have
- 5:18Speaker 3: to use some of your lefties a little bit more wower. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 5:24Speaker 3: So it doesn't get any easier, but congratulations as the
- 5:26Speaker 3: Blue Jays paper Tigers no more.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Okay. So Dan Wilson in a pressure situation in the
- 5:35Speaker 1: bottom of the seventh th Inny and most people are going, okay,
- 5:40Speaker 1: Barger walk ikf single up the middle, huge bottom of
- 5:44Speaker 1: the order, getting it done. Him and his sack butt
- 5:48Speaker 1: pitching change Bizardo, where's Minos.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Where's brash?
- 5:53Speaker 3: Brash pitched last night. He was tired.
- 5:55Speaker 1: He's tired.
- 5:56Speaker 3: And Game seven, I don't know.
- 5:58Speaker 1: I know he went thirty some odd pitches. But okay,
- 6:01Speaker 1: then use Minos, yes, Chandler Rome.
- 6:03Speaker 3: Here here's the thing where I think Dan Wilson said
- 6:05Speaker 3: about Munno's he didn't think he could get him made out,
- 6:07Speaker 3: so he was just hoping Bizardo could get through that,
- 6:09Speaker 3: get him two outs. And then he'd used Munos to.
- 6:12Speaker 1: The last six, so he felt like Bizardo was really
- 6:17Speaker 1: good for him. Yeah, he's his second best high leverage
- 6:20Speaker 1: opption and.
- 6:20Speaker 3: That he showed you what he thought. Why who he
- 6:22Speaker 3: brought in? Okay, actions right, card speak louder in words,
- 6:27Speaker 3: I'll tell you exactly how they feel, especially in this
- 6:29Speaker 3: game baseball. Kick your ass and I'll take exactly how
- 6:32Speaker 3: you feel.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Picture what picture always asks? Hey, was that a good pitch?
- 6:38Speaker 2: The hitter will tell you if it was a good
- 6:39Speaker 2: picture not he hit it into the sixth row. No,
- 6:42Speaker 2: it wasn't a good pitch. I don't care where you
- 6:44Speaker 2: threw it. The hitter will tell you the like the
- 6:47Speaker 2: manager will tell you who he thinks is the best,
- 6:52Speaker 2: better than Brash. I know Brash struggled with command Bizarta
- 6:56Speaker 2: was good, but I feel like he got like it's
- 6:59Speaker 2: the old Uh this is you know, Buck Showwalter.
- 7:03Speaker 3: How do you lose?
- 7:03Speaker 2: How do you lose the game to the Blue Jays
- 7:05Speaker 2: with Zach Britton in the bullpen? How do you lose
- 7:08Speaker 2: this game without Munnos getting the six outs? Even if
- 7:13Speaker 2: you don't think he can get you eight, you figure
- 7:15Speaker 2: it out. You get like that out was George Springer
- 7:19Speaker 2: was the out. Nathan Lucas the next batter was gonna
- 7:22Speaker 2: be the out if you get the vlad was gonna
- 7:24Speaker 2: be the out that he needed to get. Cause you
- 7:27Speaker 2: don't even they didn't even get to the ninth inning,
- 7:30Speaker 2: so they really only needed six more outs, Like they
- 7:32Speaker 2: didn't need a ninth inning because they weren't winning anymore.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, you're so worried about Oh, I don't wanna.
- 7:38Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do later on in
- 7:40Speaker 1: the game doesn't matter. This is that exact moment where
- 7:44Speaker 1: you look and go, Okay, one of the best hitters
- 7:46Speaker 1: in the sport this year, George Springer is stepping up
- 7:48Speaker 1: with two in scoring position. This is the game right here,
- 7:51Speaker 1: and I mean I'm gonna be hard on Dan Wilson
- 7:54Speaker 1: for inexperience in the postseason in this spot, twenty five
- 7:57Speaker 1: plus managers in our sport right now bringing their closer
- 8:01Speaker 1: in that spot. You have an ace reliever, Andres Munos
- 8:04Speaker 1: is money hasn't pitched, and you used the past.
- 8:07Speaker 3: We used one of your starters in the ninth if
- 8:09Speaker 3: you have to. That's what you've seen, got you. You
- 8:10Speaker 3: saw with the Dodgers last year, who'd they used to
- 8:13Speaker 3: close out the World Series? Walker Bueller right, because they
- 8:16Speaker 3: used trying in in the seventh.
- 8:18Speaker 1: And the eighth. So, Luis Castillo, I mean anybody.
- 8:24Speaker 3: Crash could have been anybody could have been spired, depending
- 8:29Speaker 3: on where they were in the lineup. Yeah, I mean
- 8:32Speaker 3: it could have been anybody. I mean the probably So
- 8:35Speaker 3: if they let's say, let's say Munos comes in and
- 8:38Speaker 3: gets Springer and Lucas and then he gets then it
- 8:40Speaker 3: will be three four five, So they're at the bottom
- 8:42Speaker 3: of their order, six, seven, eight.
- 8:45Speaker 1: This is the game, the game period. You fucked up?
- 8:49Speaker 3: Okay, come on, I mean, I'm.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Telling you most managers, it's hard to find many managers
- 8:54Speaker 1: that wouldn't do that, that wouldn't go with their ace
- 8:57Speaker 1: reliever Andres Munos is what a top five to ten closer.
- 9:03Speaker 3: He was top by three closer. His slider was the
- 9:08Speaker 3: one of the if not the best pitching baby. I
- 9:10Speaker 3: think School's change up second best. Muno's change up was
- 9:14Speaker 3: two best pitch in all of baseball for run factor,
- 9:17Speaker 3: wactor jack or whatever the hell they do with.
- 9:20Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're in trouble in the fifth, okay, but
- 9:23Speaker 1: you're in trouble in the bottom of the seventh Inny
- 9:26Speaker 1: with an out.
- 9:26Speaker 2: I know, we we so many people, so many I
- 9:30Speaker 2: don't want this conversation to get lumped in with so
- 9:32Speaker 2: many people like second guessing, like shouldn't have wanted there,
- 9:36Speaker 2: shouldn't have taken the starter out? All this stuff. To me,
- 9:40Speaker 2: this is a this is a slam dunk situation. This
- 9:45Speaker 2: is the game. I used to have a manager that
- 9:48Speaker 2: used to put key at bat of the game and
- 9:52Speaker 2: it just k a B G keyep b out of
- 9:58Speaker 2: the game. You always put it right next to it,
- 10:00Speaker 2: and then we talk about it the next day, so
- 10:02Speaker 2: you see it in, you see it in the moment,
- 10:06Speaker 2: and then you start learning, Okay, well, these are the
- 10:09Speaker 2: situations where you have to bring him in. How he
- 10:11Speaker 2: doesn't bring him in I have no idea. This is
- 10:13Speaker 2: not us second guessing. To me, I think he messed up.
- 10:16Speaker 3: I mean we can second guess a lot. Because here's
- 10:18Speaker 3: my next question. Should he have left George Kirby out
- 10:21Speaker 3: there for another inning? Because then it backs WU up
- 10:24Speaker 3: another inning, and it backs all these other guys up
- 10:26Speaker 3: in another inning. He was rolling like they couldn't touch George Kirby.
- 10:31Speaker 3: But because this is kind of what we talk again,
- 10:33Speaker 3: this is what we talked about, and they mentioned it
- 10:34Speaker 3: on the broadcast, like, you have so many options as
- 10:38Speaker 3: a manager in these games because you have all these
- 10:41Speaker 3: starters that are not down there, and you have all
- 10:43Speaker 3: these different things you can play around with. Did he
- 10:46Speaker 3: just say, well, he gave us four, let's just let's
- 10:49Speaker 3: rush to let's hurry up and get Wu in the game,
- 10:52Speaker 3: because he can give us two maybe three. Right, But
- 10:54Speaker 3: the leadoff walk was the key to that whole inning.
- 10:56Speaker 3: He walked, you can't have a leadoff walk right there.
- 10:59Speaker 3: You cannot walk who do you walk? Menez? No, who
- 11:04Speaker 3: do you walk? Oh Barger to start the inning right,
- 11:06Speaker 3: and then Kinner fileff I got the hit, and then
- 11:08Speaker 3: Jimenez bunded, Yes, yes, but you can't have a lead
- 11:11Speaker 3: off walk. But again, should you have left Kirby in
- 11:13Speaker 3: the game for one more inning and then all of
- 11:15Speaker 3: a sudden that's five and then you have Wu six
- 11:18Speaker 3: to seven and then Monos eight nine, and.
- 11:21Speaker 1: You were up three to one at that point. It
- 11:23Speaker 1: went from one run to two runs with the advantage.
- 11:26Speaker 3: The dumper homer, Uh huh. I don't know, it's it's that.
- 11:31Speaker 1: One though, Like these things are more debatable, there was
- 11:34Speaker 1: one moment here that everyone is going to talk about
- 11:37Speaker 1: like Seattle history here right, we're gonna go. George Springer
- 11:41Speaker 1: had his at the Joe Carter moment in Toronto.
- 11:44Speaker 3: And he had Jose.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Okay okay, and Dan Wilson had the.
- 11:52Speaker 3: Buck Showalter against the Blue Jays in Toronto when he
- 11:56Speaker 3: didn't bring Zach Brittany brought a new ball.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Though, I mean, you can't do it. You can't do it.
- 12:03Speaker 2: There's no more iconic home run noise than the Toronto
- 12:06Speaker 2: Blue Jays hockey horn foghorn. It's the best.
- 12:14Speaker 1: It's the best unless you're a Mariners fan and your
- 12:18Speaker 1: heartbroken right now. And of course we'll do our post
- 12:20Speaker 1: mortem and all that on this team this week. If
- 12:23Speaker 1: you're a baseball fan, that's a chills moment.
- 12:26Speaker 3: You know, it was awesome.
- 12:28Speaker 1: That's not like and there's no evil empire up there
- 12:31Speaker 1: that had been to the World Series.
- 12:35Speaker 3: How many years is that ninety three to now thirty
- 12:37Speaker 3: two years?
- 12:38Speaker 1: Thirty two years, So you're watching that, you're like, it's
- 12:41Speaker 1: pretty cool.
- 12:41Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, It was, It was. It was. Listen,
- 12:45Speaker 3: George Springer doesn't even remember running around the basis. He
- 12:48Speaker 3: just knows he swung and hit the ball and whatever.
- 12:50Speaker 3: I mean, what what he did jumping around and acting
- 12:52Speaker 3: the full He don't even remember, no know what. He'll
- 12:55Speaker 3: go back and watch him be like, I don't even
- 12:57Speaker 3: remember that.
- 12:58Speaker 2: It looked like he lost his breath because he was yelling.
- 13:01Speaker 2: It looked like when he got in there, he would
- 13:03Speaker 2: like put his hands like on the pat wrack and
- 13:05Speaker 2: was like he had like a Brett Phillips moment where
- 13:09Speaker 2: Brett Brett Phillips was like running around and he's like,
- 13:11Speaker 2: oh boy, got kind of dizzy there. That's what look,
- 13:15Speaker 2: That's what George looked like. He was just besides, he
- 13:18Speaker 2: couldn't you probably couldn't hear yourself think in that stadium,
- 13:21Speaker 2: the roof was closed, but they say forty four thousand,
- 13:25Speaker 2: forty eight thousand something like that.
- 13:27Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, forty five ish, yep, chill.
- 13:33Speaker 3: But see that that that home run was all set
- 13:36Speaker 3: up by what I talked about the last two games.
- 13:37Speaker 3: He's been missing fastball after fastball, and as the hole
- 13:40Speaker 3: at bat, every bat in this game was he just
- 13:43Speaker 3: got nothing but heater sown at him. And that was
- 13:45Speaker 3: just a heater right out of the ding day. I mean,
- 13:49Speaker 3: he wasn't late. That was the first one. He wasn't
- 13:51Speaker 3: late on all night and he didn't miss it it.
- 13:54Speaker 3: I mean, it's a gossman got out of that big jam.
- 13:58Speaker 1: Ninety seven heaterd nowadays.
- 14:02Speaker 3: But that's kind of what I'm saying. But it had
- 14:03Speaker 3: all been set up because if you watch Kirby attack
- 14:05Speaker 3: and he walked him as first a beat all heaters,
- 14:07Speaker 3: the next about all heaters, lou all heaters right, just
- 14:14Speaker 3: made adjustment. Good for him.
- 14:18Speaker 1: All Right, we got more to go. So first off,
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- 14:39Speaker 1: appreciate you. Okay, I want to focus on John Schneider's
- 14:44Speaker 1: bullpen decisions because he had to get crafty late. Right,
- 14:49Speaker 1: Gosman gets in here, Bassett gets in here. Hoffman pitches
- 14:52Speaker 1: the ninth and says, don't you dare say that I
- 14:55Speaker 1: give up home runs. I close out this game for you.
- 14:59Speaker 1: And he did it nicely. He did a really nice
- 15:00Speaker 1: job and said post game, yeah, my goal is to
- 15:03Speaker 1: not get to cal Roll in the lineup. Good for you,
- 15:07Speaker 1: great answer, But what do you think of the way
- 15:09Speaker 1: that he navigated through the game, Because this wasn't prime
- 15:13Speaker 1: Shane Bieber. This wasn't Biber.
- 15:15Speaker 3: Bieber Beaver slider wasn't sliding.
- 15:17Speaker 1: No, it wasn't as bad as the Yanks game appearance.
- 15:20Speaker 3: No, but it wasn't. But it wasn't a mirror sharp
- 15:22Speaker 3: And that's one thing you know, when you have Tommy
- 15:24Speaker 3: John We've talked about this before, you have a good
- 15:28Speaker 3: start and then you kind of have a bad start
- 15:30Speaker 3: because you're still kind of getting back to the field. Remember
- 15:32Speaker 3: this was about his tenth start in like almost two years. So,
- 15:35Speaker 3: I mean, you know, when did you get Shane Bieber
- 15:37Speaker 3: on the on the on the line. I don't have
- 15:38Speaker 3: to call him after tomorrow, see if we can get
- 15:40Speaker 3: out of Money's great, he talk soccer, he loves soccer.
- 15:45Speaker 3: But after that, after that, but his slider wasn't as
- 15:48Speaker 3: sharp as it was. I mean, the first tight, his
- 15:49Speaker 3: slider was getting like three corps away there and just
- 15:51Speaker 3: going show. This one was a little more roly poly.
- 15:55Speaker 3: This time it just wasn't the same and and and honestly,
- 15:59Speaker 3: I didn't think he was gonna get When we talked
- 16:02Speaker 3: to Ben Nicholson Smith today or on FT, he said,
- 16:05Speaker 3: oh yeah, he's probably gonna give him five. But his
- 16:07Speaker 3: stuff was going, I'm like, he's he bet they should
- 16:09Speaker 3: have got him out of for three and gone to somebody.
- 16:11Speaker 3: Now he got three and two thirds, and then Louis
- 16:14Speaker 3: Varlin came in and got the out and then gave
- 16:16Speaker 3: up the homer the bomb to cal Rawley. But then
- 16:19Speaker 3: I thought he I thought, I thought Schnyder did a
- 16:21Speaker 3: good job with this. He got Domingas to get him
- 16:23Speaker 3: an inning, Gosman got him an inning basket, got him
- 16:26Speaker 3: an inning, and then once they had the lead, Hoffman
- 16:28Speaker 3: came in and was pretty easy in the night three punchies.
- 16:32Speaker 2: So I guess Schnyder feels like he's got three guys
- 16:36Speaker 2: because Gosman and Bassett, Like if he thinks he has Varlin,
- 16:44Speaker 2: Dominguez and Hoffman, he feels like he has three guys.
- 16:48Speaker 2: If that's who he went to tonight, I got it
- 16:51Speaker 2: the right hand heavy, so you're not gonna necessarily see
- 16:53Speaker 2: as much flu Hardy and Lower and and Little. But
- 16:59Speaker 2: to me, that's his circle of trust. And he was like, Bassett,
- 17:02Speaker 2: I need you. But is Bassett gonna give him a
- 17:06Speaker 2: start in the world series.
- 17:09Speaker 1: Or do more of this Pratt? Maybe Max is still
- 17:12Speaker 1: the fourth charter and Bassett appears more, maybe the circle
- 17:16Speaker 1: of trust opens up a little bit more.
- 17:18Speaker 3: Now it's gonna be different because you got those lefties,
- 17:20Speaker 3: so you're gonna need to use your lefties. They didn't
- 17:21Speaker 3: use their lefties.
- 17:22Speaker 1: At all in this series.
- 17:24Speaker 3: They didn't lose flu Hardy, they didn't lose Little because
- 17:26Speaker 3: guess what you got show, Hey, Freddy Max coming into
- 17:30Speaker 3: town on Friday. Get your lefties ready, kids.
- 17:34Speaker 1: I know someone that can get lefties and righty as
- 17:35Speaker 1: we just talked about him, and obviously he's gonna start
- 17:38Speaker 1: in games. But do you think there's any chance that
- 17:41Speaker 1: Schneider goes who did this like Alex Core remember when
- 17:44Speaker 1: the Red Sox won, He would bring like Porcello and
- 17:46Speaker 1: those kind of guys in on their throat days like
- 17:48Speaker 1: Gosman did that for this one. Could you do that
- 17:51Speaker 1: in the World Series? Why not?
- 17:53Speaker 3: You could? But I don't think I think they have
- 17:55Speaker 3: enough depth in their starting don't. I don't think they'll
- 17:57Speaker 3: do that. But how about speaking of Goslin, how about
- 17:59Speaker 3: two outs no on? They walked the big Dumper intentionally
- 18:03Speaker 3: two outs.
- 18:03Speaker 1: Nobody on, and then he walked Nayler after that.
- 18:06Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he gots what I'm saying, he got
- 18:07Speaker 3: in trouble. He got Polanco to get out of it.
- 18:09Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, you walk a guy with
- 18:11Speaker 3: two outs and nobody on with was this Barry Bonds.
- 18:15Speaker 1: Can't hurt?
- 18:16Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean against Osman, he's Berry Bonds, true.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Right, he did have good numbers against him.
- 18:23Speaker 3: How about you just stick them? That used to be
- 18:25Speaker 3: the old thing, remember that, And we don't walk them,
- 18:28Speaker 3: just stick them. First pitch stick him.
- 18:31Speaker 2: He's a first roy oswell, he used to say. He
- 18:34Speaker 2: used to say, well, you know, man, he goes, I
- 18:37Speaker 2: knew that guy owned me, he said. So I just
- 18:40Speaker 2: want to make sure everybody knows I'm not throwing at people.
- 18:43Speaker 2: But I ain't gonna waste four pitches on nobody that
- 18:45Speaker 2: I can't get out. So I just put one right
- 18:48Speaker 2: there in his hip. Nobody. Nobody gets hurt by wanting
- 18:51Speaker 2: their hip.
- 18:51Speaker 3: You see.
- 18:52Speaker 2: I kind of feel bad, but I'm on to the
- 18:54Speaker 2: next hitter already agreed.
- 18:57Speaker 1: I do want to take a couple of key parts
- 19:01Speaker 1: out of this one and then spend it forward for
- 19:03Speaker 1: the last section here, and then of course we'll have
- 19:05Speaker 1: the full week really to prepare for the World Series.
- 19:08Speaker 1: So quickie, sixty second break and I'll look for some
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- 20:34Speaker 1: intros Slash Year in the World series. Dodger fans are
- 20:38Speaker 1: starting to load up.
- 20:39Speaker 3: And they're going to go Drake. The Jay's go Drake.
- 20:41Speaker 3: Then do you know the Dodgers are winning because the curse,
- 20:43Speaker 3: the Drake curse. I mean, Lady broke the but are
- 20:48Speaker 3: they going to go Drake and try to break the
- 20:50Speaker 3: Ja Drake curse too?
- 20:51Speaker 1: Toronto starts right at home. So then a fan goes, Okay,
- 20:54Speaker 1: they go Drake. They counter with Kendrick Lamar.
- 21:02Speaker 3: That would be that would actually be awesome, that would
- 21:05Speaker 3: be so epic. I don't know, you gotta go. I
- 21:08Speaker 3: mean ice Cube was so good last year. It's hard,
- 21:10Speaker 3: that's what they were.
- 21:11Speaker 1: So I just want to make sure I say what
- 21:13Speaker 1: the past comment was there because some people will listen
- 21:16Speaker 1: to this podcast form after. But you know, a Dodger
- 21:18Speaker 1: fan got in the chat and was like, they better
- 21:20Speaker 1: not call fat Joe. Fat Joe got schooled by better
- 21:25Speaker 1: hope the blue from Fat Joe to burst into the stadium.
- 21:29Speaker 2: What if Drake fades himself and wears a Dodgers jersey
- 21:33Speaker 2: as he's performing in Toronto, because any jersey that Drake wears,
- 21:37Speaker 2: that team's losing. Whoever he adopts done. But if he
- 21:42Speaker 2: fades himself and is like, look, whoever I adopt, I'm
- 21:46Speaker 2: wearing the Dodgers jersey, and then the Dodgers will lose.
- 21:50Speaker 3: By the way, you know what's next year? Next spring
- 21:53Speaker 3: World Baseball, class base We got it early. We got
- 21:55Speaker 3: usavers Canada. Damn it, that's true.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Two country square.
- 22:01Speaker 3: Two country squaring off. You're cratzy.
- 22:03Speaker 2: Yeah, but Japan's taken over the series either way.
- 22:07Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So now we have Japan and USA versus Canada.
- 22:10Speaker 2: Right, it's really just Japan versus Canada, right, Team.
- 22:16Speaker 3: Japan, although Freddy's on Freddy's on team Canada. So what
- 22:20Speaker 3: is it is Freddie's secretly rooting for the Jays to win?
- 22:22Speaker 3: Is he gonna?
- 22:23Speaker 1: Naylor is Canadian?
- 22:25Speaker 3: And he just played I was going to Cancun right now.
- 22:29Speaker 3: By the way, we didn't get into the nailor play.
- 22:32Speaker 3: By the way, holy shit.
- 22:36Speaker 2: That so much after that.
- 22:39Speaker 3: I mean, I've done some crazy ship on the field,
- 22:43Speaker 3: but I've never jumped and tried to get smoked by
- 22:45Speaker 3: the ball before. And he could say he wasn't trying to,
- 22:48Speaker 3: but you were trying to. Bro It was awesome. I
- 22:52Speaker 3: mean it was kind of awesome in a in an
- 22:54Speaker 3: awesome not awesome way crazy.
- 22:57Speaker 1: I will I will die tonight. I will die if
- 23:01Speaker 1: that wins. It's the damn game. I'll tend to think
- 23:03Speaker 1: of it took a while.
- 23:04Speaker 3: For them to be Josh Shudder came out and is like, hey,
- 23:06Speaker 3: what a second year, Like we didn't forgot about that
- 23:09Speaker 3: because all the other crap happened. In the end. He
- 23:12Speaker 3: literally just jumped and turned his back AND's like, are
- 23:15Speaker 3: you not entertained rock right in the back.
- 23:17Speaker 1: Of the head down He goes, you brought it like
- 23:19Speaker 1: a whole new rule into the game, where like, okay,
- 23:22Speaker 1: throws coming over.
- 23:25Speaker 3: Remember when Judge got accused of sliding and it hit
- 23:27Speaker 3: his hand, and like they're like, he did that on purpose.
- 23:29Speaker 3: This one, actually Josh Taylor did do on purpose.
- 23:33Speaker 1: It's so true. People were like happy gilmart just taking
- 23:36Speaker 1: it to whatever days.
- 23:40Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that was good.
- 23:42Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert came on the show and said he'll do
- 23:46Speaker 2: He'll do anything to win Exhibit A.
- 23:52Speaker 3: That was about that was that was the today's version
- 23:54Speaker 3: of hal McCrae, just going in and tackling dudes in
- 23:59Speaker 3: the world series like that was the new version of that,
- 24:01Speaker 3: the new school version of hal mccraye. Is dumping dudes
- 24:04Speaker 3: into left field.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Dude Naylor is hit like that. That dude's a gamer.
- 24:10Speaker 1: Oh yeah, had a great postseason. He's hitting his free
- 24:12Speaker 1: agent year. Remember we smashed the Guardians for trading him
- 24:16Speaker 1: away and they got a good piece back in Chaconi.
- 24:18Speaker 1: But still they missed him a lot. Man. He's a piece.
- 24:21Speaker 1: He is a clutch player. He's a winning player. Someone's
- 24:24Speaker 1: gonna be happy to sign him this off season.
- 24:27Speaker 3: A nailor, man. He gets big hits for you, he does,
- 24:29Speaker 3: and he loves those moments.
- 24:30Speaker 1: It's tough to pitch too.
- 24:32Speaker 3: He loves those moments, man.
- 24:33Speaker 1: Okay, So the story that's going to dominate the next
- 24:36Speaker 1: few days in my mind is Boba Sheet is making progress.
- 24:41Speaker 1: This like snuck through. We spoke to Ben Nicholson Smith.
- 24:44Speaker 1: He was the first one that put this out there
- 24:45Speaker 1: on Twitter a few hours after he was on our
- 24:47Speaker 1: show Sportsnight Reporter Covers the Blue Jays. He said, bo
- 24:51Speaker 1: is making significant progress at the plate, more running in
- 24:55Speaker 1: the outfield. The true test that we've talked about the
- 24:58Speaker 1: whole time is running the bases.
- 25:00Speaker 3: I don't care. I stick with what I got right.
- 25:02Speaker 3: I know he's a great player, but what you're gonna
- 25:06Speaker 3: d h him for Springer. I mean, you're gonna put
- 25:12Speaker 3: him at shortstop and he can't move with his knee
- 25:14Speaker 3: and ahead of a mine who's been unbelievable at shortstop.
- 25:17Speaker 3: You're gonna take Ernie Clement out of the lineup right now?
- 25:19Speaker 3: Who's on fire? Who you take him out?
- 25:23Speaker 1: Get him at second for?
- 25:26Speaker 3: You ain't doing that. I don't know. I mean, listen,
- 25:29Speaker 3: as much as I think Bo is an awesome player,
- 25:32Speaker 3: right now, I just think you just say, look, man,
- 25:34Speaker 3: I'm sorry. We were rolling with what we got.
- 25:37Speaker 1: Sure, he's really good.
- 25:39Speaker 3: I just said he's really good. I think he's an
- 25:41Speaker 3: awesome player.
- 25:42Speaker 1: He can well well Looper, Fido replace Santander?
- 25:45Speaker 3: Okay, does he you need him?
- 25:47Speaker 1: You need the outfielder. You can't have him as a
- 25:52Speaker 1: bench bat who Bo?
- 25:55Speaker 3: I guess you can. But if he hasn't played in
- 25:57Speaker 3: a month, you ain't gonna You're just gonna run him
- 25:59Speaker 3: up there with the on the line in the ninth inning.
- 26:01Speaker 3: He ain't had a bat in a.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Month, and they don't really pinch it much.
- 26:04Speaker 3: No, I don't know, Kratzy.
- 26:08Speaker 2: I mean, if he's healthy, I'm sorry, I gotta find
- 26:10Speaker 2: a way to get him in the lineup where Yeah,
- 26:15Speaker 2: I mean, you got it. You gotta figure it out.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Healthy is relative, Bobashett healthy, he's not. He's probably not
- 26:24Speaker 2: playing better defense than Andre Semenez. Andre Semenez came up
- 26:29Speaker 2: a shortstop and he's been bawling out there. He's obviously
- 26:32Speaker 2: a Platinum Glove second baseman. But to me, that's a
- 26:37Speaker 2: that is a better lineup. That's a better lineup. I'm
- 26:40Speaker 2: not I'm not saying I have the answer where he goes.
- 26:43Speaker 2: You can't put you can't put George out in the outfield.
- 26:47Speaker 2: But to me, Bo is definitely gonna be on the roster.
- 26:53Speaker 2: I don't think AJ is saying he's not on the
- 26:54Speaker 2: roster where he's that in the lineup? Man, I got,
- 26:57Speaker 2: I got. I gotta know if he's running, if he's
- 26:59Speaker 2: run the bases at full speed, he's out there. He
- 27:03Speaker 2: might start at second I might even make a poor
- 27:07Speaker 2: choice and start him at start him at shortstop. I'll
- 27:10Speaker 2: be honest. You gotta score runs. The Dodgers are not
- 27:12Speaker 2: going to They're not going to give you free runs.
- 27:15Speaker 2: So you got to take every one of them that
- 27:16Speaker 2: you can get. There's a fight.
- 27:21Speaker 3: I don't know. It's it's a great, it's a great,
- 27:25Speaker 3: it's a great question, it's a great.
- 27:27Speaker 1: I'm on the craft side here. He's got to be
- 27:28Speaker 1: on the roster. He's gotta be on it.
- 27:31Speaker 3: Why does he gotta be on the roster?
- 27:33Speaker 2: Top three hit he's better than the twenty guy and.
- 27:36Speaker 1: He's a hig tool guy like I think he can.
- 27:40Speaker 3: Send him to and this week, this week and get
- 27:44Speaker 3: him some bats.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Were sim game them up here at workouts?
- 27:49Speaker 3: Yeah, they do that.
- 27:51Speaker 1: I mean it's a layoff now, So what's today Monday?
- 27:56Speaker 1: Same game anyway, all of them right, they're.
- 27:59Speaker 2: Gonna be.
- 28:01Speaker 3: You'll definitely do something on like a Wednesday. Yeah, tomorrow's off.
- 28:05Speaker 3: Tomorrow will be off. Wednesday will be some sort of
- 28:08Speaker 3: a something more, and then Thursday will be just DP
- 28:13Speaker 3: and then Friday is a go time, no travel.
- 28:17Speaker 1: No.
- 28:17Speaker 3: I wonder, I wonder if the Fox screw, like if
- 28:19Speaker 3: little Ken just stays in Toronto for.
- 28:21Speaker 1: Ken Kenn is staying in Toronto because he's on with
- 28:23Speaker 1: us tomorrow. It's confirmed.
- 28:25Speaker 2: And they'll bring the Stay Hot They'll bring the Stay
- 28:27Speaker 2: Hot kids up too. All the guys that have been
- 28:30Speaker 2: down in Dunedin at Stay Hot camp. They'll probably come
- 28:35Speaker 2: up to you know, pitchers would come up and guys
- 28:37Speaker 2: would take at bats, guys that haven't gotten any abs, Like,
- 28:42Speaker 2: let's see who else low berfeedo. He was probably at
- 28:45Speaker 2: stay hot camp and that's when he got he replaced
- 28:48Speaker 2: Santandre uh Tyler. Heineman hasn't gotten any at bats. I'm
- 28:53Speaker 2: sure bo would hop in there if he hasn't been
- 28:55Speaker 2: hopping in there. But also they have the traject, so
- 28:59Speaker 2: I assume that trajected.
- 29:02Speaker 3: They gotta damn disco ball. They gotta damn disco ball
- 29:05Speaker 3: and a light show and a fog machine going right
- 29:06Speaker 3: now in their locker room. They got to traject exactly.
- 29:11Speaker 1: The Blue Jays as an org, they take care of
- 29:14Speaker 1: things there. They have to, they do. But you're recruiting players.
- 29:18Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna be fascinating that this is gonna
- 29:21Speaker 3: be a fact. I know, we have days to dig in.
- 29:22Speaker 3: This fascinating. Just they just keep showing you savage, you
- 29:26Speaker 3: savage against the Dodgers. They've never seen them.
- 29:29Speaker 1: It's cool.
- 29:30Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna be it's gonna be a it's
- 29:31Speaker 3: gonna be fast. I mean, it's gonna be fascinating my
- 29:34Speaker 3: world series pick is out now, damn it. I had
- 29:37Speaker 3: Dodgers Mariners for the start, but that's okay. I mean,
- 29:40Speaker 3: I know, but.
- 29:43Speaker 2: As soon as spring, I mean not spring. As soon
- 29:45Speaker 2: as KP came on the show and said the Blue
- 29:48Speaker 2: Jays are bringing this back. The Blue Jays are bringing
- 29:50Speaker 2: this back when they were down two to oh, I
- 29:53Speaker 2: went on, I'm like, if KP says it with his
- 29:56Speaker 2: chest like that, I'm taking a little Blue Jays to
- 29:59Speaker 2: win the American League chainampionship. So KP dinner's on me.
- 30:02Speaker 2: This time.
- 30:04Speaker 1: KP was right. He was getting smashed, so he was
- 30:06Speaker 1: really good. He was like, this series is going to
- 30:08Speaker 1: get crazy, unpredictable. And it was then Friday he comes
- 30:11Speaker 1: on and he was like, blue Jays are winning to
- 30:14Speaker 1: rap and then obviously everyone's just like cool because you're
- 30:16Speaker 1: a Toronto guy and they did win. Let's finish with this,
- 30:21Speaker 1: not that one. I'm going to do another, but I'll
- 30:23Speaker 1: read this. Blue Jays are the fourth team to win
- 30:24Speaker 1: a best of seven series despite losing the first two
- 30:27Speaker 1: games at home, joining then six eighty six Mets and
- 30:31Speaker 1: eighty five Royals all in the World Series. You missed
- 30:34Speaker 1: that Friday show that we had where I brought that
- 30:38Speaker 1: start up, and then we spent like half the show
- 30:39Speaker 1: trying to make sure that it was real. Fact checkers
- 30:43Speaker 1: happened since ninety six.
- 30:44Speaker 3: That's why the eighty six Red Sox still are one
- 30:49Speaker 3: of the most unbelievable losses of all time. They won
- 30:52Speaker 3: the first two at Shay, and then they obviously had
- 30:55Speaker 3: the Bill Buckner Oil Camboid all that Roger Clements still
- 30:58Speaker 3: starting in game seven and ready to go. They had
- 31:00Speaker 3: a lead and blew that one too. People forget about
- 31:03Speaker 3: that Bob Stanley, the Steamer, great coach by the way,
- 31:07Speaker 3: great guy too, really great guy. Felt bad for him.
- 31:10Speaker 3: But anyways, last thing eighty five Royals Don Deckinger missed
- 31:14Speaker 3: a call first, remember that one ninety six ninety six
- 31:20Speaker 3: Yankees lost the first two to the Braves, and then
- 31:22Speaker 3: went down there and just Jim Layritz, the Jim Layot's homer,
- 31:25Speaker 3: Mark Wohlers, I believe.
- 31:26Speaker 1: Yeah, started up the dynasty the Braves.
- 31:30Speaker 2: The Braves lost a lot.
- 31:33Speaker 1: Wait, so last thing on the Managers, last thing on
- 31:35Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, last thing on the Manners. First, Dan
- 31:37Speaker 1: Wilson spoke already. He said he went to Bizardo for
- 31:40Speaker 1: Springer because Bizarta has been handling those pivot type moments
- 31:44Speaker 1: for them all season.
- 31:47Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, he wasn't even it was even. I mean,
- 31:55Speaker 3: I don't I don't know his I mean, I know
- 31:56Speaker 3: he pitched a lot, but he on the team the
- 31:58Speaker 3: whole year. He wasn't pitching the seventh and me thinning
- 32:00Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year.
- 32:01Speaker 1: No, No, this was his breakout this year.
- 32:03Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I had to have an answer.
- 32:07Speaker 2: I've never heard I've never heard of pivot moments. I've
- 32:10Speaker 2: never heard that term used. That's the word to use, pivot.
- 32:16Speaker 1: Uh, that's the tweet I got here from Chelsea Jaan's
- 32:19Speaker 1: Washington Post.
- 32:21Speaker 3: Anyways, Ross, Atkins and Shapiro, congratulations too. We've we we
- 32:25Speaker 3: gave him a lot of shit. But congratulations of them.
- 32:28Speaker 1: Yeah, because some years they worship but now they're not.
- 32:31Speaker 2: And this is when this is.
- 32:31Speaker 3: Their contract year and a lot of people by John
- 32:33Speaker 3: Schneider a getting fired early in the year and here
- 32:35Speaker 3: he goes to the World Series. So congratulations, Shides and.
- 32:39Speaker 2: Congratulations graduation outmanaged congratulations Snides, Yes, congratulations John Snyder, Ye,
- 32:45Speaker 2: John Schneider, congrats.
- 32:49Speaker 1: I was trying to see real quick. If the Pizardo
- 32:51Speaker 1: has been doing this the entire.
- 32:52Speaker 3: Year and I never heard of a pivot moment.
- 32:56Speaker 1: It's like your fireman man is a fire man in
- 33:02Speaker 1: this spot. I have a hard time with this. But
- 33:06Speaker 1: Soda Mariners fans, we're gonna do a therapy session for you.
- 33:09Speaker 1: I know you want to hear it. But we've got
- 33:12Speaker 1: FT one o'clock Eastern Time Tuesday and for the rest
- 33:15Speaker 1: of the week will be previewing the World Series because
- 33:17Speaker 1: the World Series doesn't start until Friday night. This was
- 33:20Speaker 1: so fun. I wish the World Series started way sooner.
- 33:22Speaker 1: But I get it.
- 33:22Speaker 3: Why, I guess because it would have been Game seven
- 33:25Speaker 3: for the NL tomorrow and that would have given them. Yes, yes,
- 33:28Speaker 3: so Faturday Thursday, that would have given them two days
- 33:30Speaker 3: for travel.
- 33:31Speaker 1: And then Friday. It doesn't.
- 33:33Speaker 3: It's you don't want to they don't. We all know
- 33:34Speaker 3: they don't want to fight the NFL.
- 33:36Speaker 1: Right, so it lines up with Friday Saturday off, Monday, Tuesday,
- 33:40Speaker 1: Wednesday off Thursday, Friday Saturday. Shout out to the brand new,
- 33:48Speaker 1: very popular Fox one app which will have the twenty
- 33:53Speaker 1: twenty five World Series starting on Friday, and if you're
- 33:57Speaker 1: looking for it, you can download the Fox one app.
- 34:00Speaker 1: You can sign up. You can get yourself a free
- 34:02Speaker 1: seven day trial. Look in the description for the link,
- 34:06Speaker 1: click it and get more info there. Thank you so
- 34:10Speaker 1: much for watching the Ft Live postgame show or listening.
- 34:15Speaker 1: For all your podcast listeners out there, we will see
- 34:18Speaker 1: you for our regular spot one o'clock Eastern time on Tuesday.
- 34:22Speaker 1: World series starts Friday,