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NBA DFS Process | DraftKings & FanDuel Picks, Plays & Slate Breakdown | Wednesday, 11/19/25 · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear.
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  Speaker 2: We left on.
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  Speaker 3: What is going on? Everyone?
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to a Wednesday edition of the NBA Show
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  Speaker 4: with me and my man Matt. Matt, how you doing today?
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  Speaker 4: This is probably the most Wednesday NBA slate of the year,
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  Speaker 4: all the injuries and then a bunch of blowouts.
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  Speaker 3: How are you feeling today?
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  Speaker 1: I'm feeling good man. Yeah, injuries have really and over
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  Speaker 1: the NBA already early on. I mean, you always know
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  Speaker 1: that going into the NBA season, like projections changed so
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  Speaker 1: much with one, you know, little injury that you have
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  Speaker 1: to be on your toes. But we're just seeing a
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  Speaker 1: wrath of big injuries early on. I guess it kind
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  Speaker 1: of is what it is as us DFS player. As
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  Speaker 1: we track on, the contests stay the same, actually better
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  Speaker 1: contest today than we've had the past couple Wednesdays. I
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  Speaker 1: know for you it's mostly the same with that five dollars,
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  Speaker 1: but we've had like a two to twenty two tonight
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  Speaker 1: it's an eight eighty eight, that bigger one, so exciting
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  Speaker 1: stuff there. Hopefully we can dive in and talk about
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  Speaker 1: some plays that we both that we both like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, good luck to anybody playing on that one.
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  Speaker 4: I only got one in there tonight, but yeah, hopefully
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  Speaker 4: a member could take it down. It's been a really
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  Speaker 4: good week over here. Our guy, Philly, Phantom of the
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  Speaker 4: Chad just said a really good night. Last nights of
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  Speaker 4: shout out to him, but say what's up to people?
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  Speaker 4: Got go collect? Sean little neck uh reach out with thumb.
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  Speaker 4: No soon maybe maybe he'll start tonight. We'll see Michael
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  Speaker 4: w you, Gang Green wins a lot, Marquee, mister Mike's daddy,
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  Speaker 4: Ricky Roose, what's up?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Thankfully I got I got mad here with me so
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  Speaker 4: I don't have to go for two hours, but could
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  Speaker 4: definitely talk a lot of hoops Ranger, what's up?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 4: Azy Bob Para, bay Ny Steegle Phil you so what's up?
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  Speaker 4: You already brock and go collect again? And got Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I feel you there man, Let's do it quick. A
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  Speaker 4: quick over overview of the slate. We have three games
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  Speaker 4: in the later window that are all projected to be blowouts,
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  Speaker 4: so then you have the obvious value in the Golden
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  Speaker 4: State stuff. When you get a slay like this, what
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  Speaker 4: is like the general approach for you as somebody that's
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  Speaker 4: playing less than one hundred and fifty line ups.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I kinda mentioned a minute ago, but I
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  Speaker 1: think the general theme is like stay on in your toes,
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  Speaker 1: like don't get boxed into any one corner because things
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  Speaker 1: change rapidly. I just have a plan for different scenarios.
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  Speaker 1: I guess. You know. The good thing is we know
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  Speaker 1: some of the news, maybe a lot of the news
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  Speaker 1: as of now, so you know you can kind of
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  Speaker 1: plan accordingly as to like what if scenarios Now, we
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  Speaker 1: don't have enough of the news to do that yet,
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  Speaker 1: but we will. It'll start coming in. So again, just
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  Speaker 1: kind of be flexible, stay in your toes. And talked
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  Speaker 1: about this last I don't know, I think we had
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  Speaker 1: a similar situation last week. Oftentimes, in slates like this,
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  Speaker 1: I'll try to stick to like a pretty tight core
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  Speaker 1: just because there will end up being a lot of
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  Speaker 1: really good plays on the slate. That's just the nature
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  Speaker 1: of it when you get a lot of guys out
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  Speaker 1: with injury and pricing hasn't caught up yet, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure, all right, but we'll spend no
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  Speaker 4: more time talking through slate over your stuff.
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  Speaker 3: First game on the slate should be a pretty good one.
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  Speaker 4: You got Houston taken on your Cleveland Cavaliers in a
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  Speaker 4: pretty high game total.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's definitely some.
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  Speaker 4: Plays in this game and then some obvious, I mean
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  Speaker 4: some value that could open up on the Houston side
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  Speaker 4: with Jabari Smith. Listen, question Bowl didn't really see what
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  Speaker 4: the injury was, but these guys just played a ton
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  Speaker 4: of minutes, so it could be some sort of maintenance
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  Speaker 4: type thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, should be really fun. One.
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  Speaker 4: Two teams that are towards the top of their respective conferences.
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  Speaker 4: Houston offense looks great this season first and offensive rating,
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  Speaker 4: Cavs are eleventh. Both teams are top ten defensive rating teams.
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  Speaker 4: But Houston's been getting done on offense, really efficient three
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  Speaker 4: point shooting and really good offensive rebounding grates pretty massive
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  Speaker 4: number forty one percent offensive rebounding rate. Cleveland's a pretty
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  Speaker 4: solid rebounding team, but I could see some of those
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  Speaker 4: guys having success there. But what are you looking to
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  Speaker 4: in this game? So I do think that there are
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  Speaker 4: some spind ups we can go to on both sides
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  Speaker 4: of this one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you took the words right out of my mouth. Really,
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  Speaker 1: all I'm looking at in this game is the two
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  Speaker 1: big spend up options on each side maybe two and
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  Speaker 1: a half. You've been throwing Mobilely in there also, but
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  Speaker 1: like not as interested in him as the other two.
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  Speaker 1: Starting with Sangoon, who back to back sixty plus DK
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  Speaker 1: point games playing really well right now, affordable at ninety
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  Speaker 1: five hundred opportunity costs at center is real, but we'll
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  Speaker 1: also have basically unlimited salary with all the Golden State
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  Speaker 1: plus value you know, plus other value will get. So
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  Speaker 1: I like Shannggoon a lot here. I haven't been thoroughly
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  Speaker 1: impressed with Cleveland's front court at all, considering what they
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  Speaker 1: should be with Allen and especially Mobilely inside. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Sangoon will have really any issues going to work
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  Speaker 1: here and then on the other side kind of for
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  Speaker 1: different reasons, but you know, generally the same. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell, who's also playing really well right now. I
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  Speaker 1: always like him in bigger games. I think tonight is
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  Speaker 1: categorized as that, as the Cavs haven't been playing while
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  Speaker 1: kind of a statement game at home for them, and
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  Speaker 1: despite like the tough matchup on paper, he's just good
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  Speaker 1: enough to get through that. So playing well close game,
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  Speaker 1: I like Sanggun and Mitchell here. I wouldn't call either
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  Speaker 1: of them like a priority play, but I do like both.
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  Speaker 1: How do you see it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, very similar.
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm this might be the first time I'm
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  Speaker 4: kind of into KD here. It's obviously still tough to
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  Speaker 4: get like the true val or the true ceiling games
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  Speaker 4: that we need from him, but he should have the
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  Speaker 4: best matchup. I think it's gonna be DeAndre Hunter on him.
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  Speaker 4: It might change if Jabari were to be out, they
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  Speaker 4: might probably would toss Mobile on him, but I still
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't be too worried about that matchup. He's been playing
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  Speaker 4: really well and the shot volume is starting to come
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  Speaker 4: up a little bit. But I definitely agree with you
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  Speaker 4: on sang Gun. I do think that it's a pretty
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  Speaker 4: big talking point, Like you said, the opportunity costs at
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  Speaker 4: center tonight, because we get a ton of value in.
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  Speaker 3: That Warriors game.
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  Speaker 4: You have, Jokic, you have, I mean even like go Baer,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like it is in play. Maybe some Indian
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  Speaker 4: and Charlotte guys are in play, so there's the ownership
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  Speaker 4: has to go somewhere. I don't know if people are
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  Speaker 4: gonna want to just chase sixty point outings from Seng
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  Speaker 4: Gun in what looks like on paper, a tough matchup.
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  Speaker 4: But I do agree with everything you say. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: they just run so much to their offense through him.
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  Speaker 4: Been really close to a triple double and basically every
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  Speaker 4: game this season. So if those assists start to hit
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  Speaker 4: and he does hit that number, the triple double number,
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  Speaker 4: he could really pay off in a big way, a
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  Speaker 4: bigger way than he already has. But I do think
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  Speaker 4: Sengun top play for Houston. For me, I do slide
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  Speaker 4: prefer kd over Amen tonight. I don't really think it's
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  Speaker 4: the matchup for amend. You kind of like him against
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  Speaker 4: teams out of a week rim and transition defens is
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  Speaker 4: not really what Cleveland does poorly. And then I would
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  Speaker 4: keep an eye on the Jabari Smith stuff because if
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  Speaker 4: he were to miss, they probably introduce Rea Shepherd into
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  Speaker 4: the starting lineup, and I think that we'd all be
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  Speaker 4: pretty excited to play him. I know Little Nick would
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  Speaker 4: probably play him in one hundred and fifty lineups if
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  Speaker 4: he had that many, but he would definitely be a
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  Speaker 4: good play. I mean, he's playing really well right now,
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  Speaker 4: thirty plus d K points in each of his last
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  Speaker 4: four games, and then yeah, it's pretty much just fy.
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  Speaker 4: The Donovan Mitchell for the Cleveland side. Not a good
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  Speaker 4: matchup on paper, but like you said, he does get
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  Speaker 4: up for these big games. This game would be categorized
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  Speaker 4: as one of those. I do think that he's a
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  Speaker 4: pretty decent option here. Maybe you could look to some
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  Speaker 4: overs on the betting market on guys like Sam Merrill.
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  Speaker 4: I don't really know who else we like. They're knocked
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  Speaker 4: down three point shooter, but the Rockets do give a
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  Speaker 4: good amount of three pointers, so maybe consider some overs there.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, pretty pretty solid game to target. I think
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  Speaker 4: that this next one looks pretty good as well. Charlotte
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  Speaker 4: and Indy close game total. Surprisingly, Charlotte is favored tonight
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  Speaker 4: on the road, but they're getting a little bit healthier
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  Speaker 4: with LaMelo back, although he's on a pretty strict minutes
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  Speaker 4: restriction right now. I think that is gonna be the
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  Speaker 4: just kind of the thing moving forward with him, He's
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  Speaker 4: probably not gonna be playing mid to upper thirty minutes much,
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  Speaker 4: if at all, this season. And then Indie getting healthier
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  Speaker 4: as well with Benigmathen back in the mix, I think
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  Speaker 4: it's a pretty good spot to pick on.
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  Speaker 3: Some of these guys.
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  Speaker 4: It might be a little tougher on the Charlotte side
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  Speaker 4: because these guys are priced up with LaMelo back and
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  Speaker 4: it like Bridges and Con and Sex and all these
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  Speaker 4: guys are negatively impacted by his return from a usage standpoint.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't think it's too crazy to go to
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  Speaker 4: coch Brenner or Diabat. Definitely Max one of those guys
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  Speaker 4: with the prices being where they are, but they're splitting
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  Speaker 4: the center minutes. Indy is an awful rim defense given
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  Speaker 4: up a good amount of rebounds to the center position
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  Speaker 4: as well. I could see one of these guys having
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  Speaker 4: an efficient game with like a double double. Maybe add
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  Speaker 4: some steals and blocks in there to pay off the value.
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  Speaker 4: I think Con is still okay. He definitely has a
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  Speaker 4: really big usage hit to his numbers with Lamela on
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  Speaker 4: the court the season. But I mean he's just really good,
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  Speaker 4: Like he's he can get it done, and he's been
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  Speaker 4: getting done pretty tough matchups. I don't think that it's
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  Speaker 4: really what I'm shying away from. With Mathern on the
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  Speaker 4: other side. But speaking of Mathern, I think that he's
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  Speaker 4: probably my favorite playing this game. Just had a massive
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  Speaker 4: thirty eight percent usagerate in his first game back from
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  Speaker 4: the injury, and I don't think that he's going to
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  Speaker 4: be too limited from a minute standpoint. But with him
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  Speaker 4: back and them hard getting healthier, teacher McConnell back, Like,
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  Speaker 4: I just can't see myself paying nine k plus for
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  Speaker 4: Siakam now, even what is like a decent on paper matchup,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's probably just mathering for me, and then
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  Speaker 4: the centers and then Isaiah Jackson's well, he got to
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  Speaker 4: start twenty seven minutes in a tough matchup against Jalen
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  Speaker 4: Durant and the Pistons.
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  Speaker 3: He should be in a much better spot here. But
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  Speaker 3: what are you thinking about in this game?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, like this game, like you said, from a
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  Speaker 1: thirty thousand foot view, looks really good from a DFS perspective,
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  Speaker 1: But the problem is where pricing is and with the
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  Speaker 1: Golden State value we have now, like it just might
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  Speaker 1: not be the best slate for it. Like if this
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  Speaker 1: game run last night slate, I think I might be
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  Speaker 1: interested in like game stacking it, But tonight, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you're gonna need anyone from this game.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right, Like the Charlotte centers look okay,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know how good they look compared to
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Golden State centers, Sengoon, Jokic's Drummond. It's
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  Speaker 1: tough for me to prioritize those guys. I like Sexton
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  Speaker 1: at fifty four hundred, but like you know, LaMelo backs certainly,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Sexton is like a smash player or anything.
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  Speaker 1: And then from the Indiana side, I do think Mathern
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  Speaker 1: is the top overall play from this game. It's just
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  Speaker 1: is really looking like it might be a Stars and
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  Speaker 1: Scrubs type slate. So that doesn't mean there isn't a
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  Speaker 1: place for Mathren on this slate. I just don't know
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  Speaker 1: if he's gonna be like a core play for me.
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  Speaker 1: I'll put it like that. But ultimately I'm with you,
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  Speaker 1: like this game should be competitive, high scoring, bad defenses,
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  Speaker 1: so all of a sudden, like if it plays like that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, multiple pieces from this game could get there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think you broke the down beautifully. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm pretty high on Matheren tonight, but I do
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  Speaker 4: agree he's probably a little too thin to be a
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  Speaker 4: core play, but I do I do think that he's
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  Speaker 4: got really appealing upside, so he's definitely my favorite playing
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  Speaker 4: that entire game. But yeah, like like you said, the
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  Speaker 4: center spot a lot of opportunity opportunity costs there, and
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  Speaker 4: we get a mind price center in the game after
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  Speaker 4: this one that we're definitely gonna want to get pieces of.
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  Speaker 4: But this is also another game one of another really
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  Speaker 4: close spread, I think is the theme of the Slave.
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  Speaker 4: The first three games one point spreads, and then you
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  Speaker 4: get two pretty fast paced teams with injuries on the
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  Speaker 4: Philly side that should make it pretty appealing with MB
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  Speaker 4: Paul George and Kelly Ubery out Raptors one of the
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  Speaker 4: hottest teams in the East right now, have won eight
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  Speaker 4: of their last nine games.
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  Speaker 3: I still think that their defense is has some holes
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  Speaker 3: that you can attack.
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  Speaker 4: It's obviously the rin defense never really that great with
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  Speaker 4: Yaka proto down low giving a ton of points there,
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  Speaker 4: and they're kind of getting a little lucky with teams
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  Speaker 4: shooting it inefficiently against them at the three point line,
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  Speaker 4: shooting just thirty two percent. And then the Sixers, they
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  Speaker 4: are one of the biggest on ball funnels in the league.
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  Speaker 4: Dead last and pick and roll defense bottom three transition defense,
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  Speaker 4: and Toronto's a top three transition offense. So there's really
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  Speaker 4: a lot to like about the Toronto side that I
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  Speaker 4: think they might get a little bit overlooked in comparison
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  Speaker 4: to what you know their upside is. But the pricing
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  Speaker 4: is pretty solid. I do think we're starting to see
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  Speaker 4: it like change from a usage standpoint in Ingram's favor. Lately,
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  Speaker 4: he's leading the team in pick and roll handling over
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  Speaker 4: like the last week or so, minutes are starting to
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  Speaker 4: come up there. I think it's a really good spot
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  Speaker 4: to attack this Philly defense with pick and roll heavy guys,
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  Speaker 4: So that would make Ingram and quickly two pretty high
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  Speaker 4: options for me on this slate. But then like Scutty
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  Speaker 4: Barnes and Argie Barrett have a really good matchup so
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  Speaker 4: well with the way that the Sixers give up a
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  Speaker 4: ton of transition points. Those are the two top transition scores,
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  Speaker 4: and I think even Pertos in play at five point
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  Speaker 4: eight case, I'm really liking a lot on the Strono side,
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  Speaker 4: And then I'll let you break down the Philly side
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  Speaker 4: if you want.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, So for me, I'm with you on
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  Speaker 1: the Toronto side. I like all of those pieces. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure there's one I like, absolutely love, but I
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  Speaker 1: think Toronto's just in generally an overall good spot from
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  Speaker 1: Philly for Philly. For me, multiple guys didn't play here.
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  Speaker 1: They're a little bit shorthanded. Still know Ubre Maxie back
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  Speaker 1: to playing forty plus minutes. He looks really, really good
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  Speaker 1: as a spend up option for Jets. Well, ownership isn't crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I like Maxi and then Drummond, Like before all the
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  Speaker 1: Golden State news, he was looking like arguably the best
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  Speaker 1: player on the slate. He still might be. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: really nice tag for Drummond right now, who's playing big
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  Speaker 1: minutes and we just know what he can do in
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  Speaker 1: those minutes, in which would be a competitive game against
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  Speaker 1: what you said is not a front court I'm scared
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  Speaker 1: of at all. Those two guys would be the main
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  Speaker 1: pieces for me. Quentin Grimes would be the other guy
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  Speaker 1: I'd be looking at like not a priority, but certainly
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  Speaker 1: like a like a consolation prize if you can't get
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  Speaker 1: all the way up to Maxi. I like Grimes. He's
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  Speaker 1: got high upside games sixty one hundred. He can certainly
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  Speaker 1: pay that tag off. There's plenty of meat on the
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  Speaker 1: bone there. I think those three guys mainly Yeah, how
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  Speaker 1: about you, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I definitely agree with you on Drummond.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's the best play on probably in this
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  Speaker 4: entire game, and one of the better center players on
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  Speaker 4: the slate. Love attacking Yoka Pertle. I kind of like
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  Speaker 4: Edgecumb a little bit too at six point one k
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  Speaker 4: as or a six k is pivot off of Quentin Grimes,
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  Speaker 4: if you're playing Grimes as a shooting guard, just because
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  Speaker 4: they're really leaning into I mean, those three, like the Grimes,
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  Speaker 4: Edgecomb and Maxi, they're going to play them upper thirties
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  Speaker 4: minutes in a close game, and I think that he's
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  Speaker 4: kind of started to turn things around after a rough stretch.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of I think that he's pretty solid at
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  Speaker 4: six K.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit of a tougher spot
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  Speaker 4: for Maxie. I do think that he could get there
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  Speaker 4: from a usage standpoint with all those guys out, but
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  Speaker 4: Toronto does a pretty good job taking away the pick
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  Speaker 4: and rolls.
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  Speaker 3: I think it might be a little bit tougher. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Where he would rank in terms of spind ups for me,
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  Speaker 4: but I'll definitely have a good bit ten K with
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  Speaker 4: the forty minutes back. I think that he's definitely in play.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: But I'm gonna I'll get over these Toronto guys for sure.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: I think that one of these guys puts a pretty
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: solid score, and if I had to choose one, I
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: would probably say, Ingram, now, do you have like a
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: ranking system for Toronto tonight from their top four guys?
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: You can leave proto out if you want.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: I do, and I will. But before I answer that,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask you in your one eight
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: eighty eight, do you think you'll have any Toronto tonight potentially?
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Like it might be one of it might be one
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: of like Ingram or.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: Quickly I got to see what the bills look like
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: because I haven't really tin But I think I do
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: like those guys a good bit too early.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: I get it like they might not fit, but you
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: wouldn't mind it at all if you got the one
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: of them. I get it for me on this slate.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I think they're all really close, so like, I don't
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: think there's like too much to gain from ranking them.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I like Ingram the most. You talked about the matchup.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I like his price tag and his positionality at shooting
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: guard probably quickly then Barnes then bear it. I do
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: think you can throw Polal right in there. The only
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: problem with him is the center you know, eligibility, so
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: you had tough to get to him on this slate.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: But I'm with you. Like all the Toronto guys are
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: in play, I'm just not sure any one of them
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: is like a priority play for me. Yep, agree there,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Ingram tag is nice though.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, seven point three is pretty good. He's really starting
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: to play well right now too.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: See.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: I kind of like him a good bit.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: So now we get to the game with all the injuries,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: and we'll start.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: With who's out.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, we should expect me and Draymond to be
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: out there unluckly to play, but we already have out
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: tags on Steph Kaminga and Al Horford still waiting on.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Buddy Healed, which could tie things up even more.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you should. I think the projected starting
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: lineup is probably likely to stay what it is, with Pods,
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Will Richard, Moses, Moody, Quintin Post as the four guys
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: that should for sure start, and then who starts at
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: the four, probably gonna be Gi Santos.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: I would imagine.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: I doubt that they're gonna do anything weird and toss
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: out three guards because the Miami team is kind of
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: big if they were to do that, So I would
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: expect Santos to be the guy in the starting lineup. Yeah,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: definitely going to be spot that You're probably getting like
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: minimum two of these guys in Alanta, maybe even three.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: I'll let you break it down. I think that it's
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: a really good spot. We always like attacking these Miami games,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: and I think that it's a really good spot for
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: some of these guys matchup wise.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really good spot. Tags are obviously really
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: really cheap. So NBA DFS is kind of like, you know,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: like this is what happens when you get a bunch
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: of guys out obviously expecting Butler not to play here.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: You know, Pat Spencer three K shooting guard, point guard eligible,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I think looks like the top play here. He's gonna
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: get ownership, but almost looks like a free square at
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: that price. Point Cam Spencer's brother. You got to two
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: centers posts and traced Axon Davis post projects well better,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: but man, that three K TJD price tag does look good.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: So I like both those guys. I think on a
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: lot of slates you could play both them together at
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: their price tags, just because I think if they eat
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: up like all the minutes, Will Richard might be my
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say my favorite piece, but he's
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: right up there forty five hundred. I think he takes
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: on a huge offensive load. Tonight was really really good
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: at Florida last year. I've been impressed with him so
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: far for Golden State, like as a rookie gets run there,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: which is kind of rare. Gis Santos fill in piece
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: fine with him, He's three K, Like those are the five?
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I mean Gary Payton, Sure, he's never a guy I'm
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: excited about, like in spots like this because I feel
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: like he just is who he is no matter who's
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: out there. But certainly everyone gets a bump. So yeah,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I think those five and then Peyton is the sixth.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Is there anyone I'm missing or you see it any differently?
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I mean I'm pretty high on pods tonight.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I think that the I completely forgot about pods. Yeah,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: he's probably the top options. Excuse me, So I was
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: just looking at the cheap guys.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: No, it's all good.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: I think that it makes it tough to pay for
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: pods when you can get Pat Spencer for three thousand
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: dollars cheaper. But I really think that if there were
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: a time for pods to get like thirty three thirty
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: four minutes, he could really hit in a big way.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Just with the way.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Miams giving up so many fantasy points right now. So
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: I really like him. But like I said, like Pat
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: Spencer's three K with shooting guard eligibility as well, I
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: do agree. I think that Tray Shackson Davis over Quinton Post,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: but yeah, you could potentially play them together.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Seven point six K for.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: A guy that's projected for fifty something fantasy points is
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: definitely an option taking up two center spots.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: So so you really need them both to hit in a
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: big way.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: I think if I was choosing one, it would be
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Tray Jackson Davis, though I probably wouldn't be messing with
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: like Gary Payton and Buddy Healed. I think that there's
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: a more likely chance that Steve Kurt does something weird
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: and just doesn't play them a lot of minutes and
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: we get a little bit more from the young guys.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: So yeah, if I had to rank it, I think
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: it's probably I agree with you and Will Richard.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I like him a lot.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Four point five K is a good price side for him.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: He should have a pretty big offensive workload. So I
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: think Tray Shacks and Davis, Spencer Richard probably the top
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: three guys. Then Pods for me, and then I guess
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Gie Santos Post and I mean, you're playing a lot
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: of these guys, so it's kind of tough geta just like, yeah,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: think through some some general groupings and like who would
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: negatively correlate?
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Uh, probably nothing for me on Miami.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Looks like BAM's going to be back tonight, so that'll
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: make all these guys a little bit less appealing at
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: these price tags. I think you're probably okay to play
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Norm Powell, but that's probably it for me in Miami.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Do you I doubt you'd probably like anything over there.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: No, I don't, But I just want to reiterate my
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: fiveness for Pods here, Like, yeah, you to your point,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: it's hard to get to him at like double literally
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: double the price. I guess Spencer when he doesn't project
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: like that much better, But I think if one of
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: these guys goes for like fifty DK points tonight, it's
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: definitely pods. I could see him being like a guy
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you absolutely need in tournaments tonight I will add exposure
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: to him.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, cool.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Now we get to the I guess these games are
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: a little bit less appealing from a game environment standpoint,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: but there's still a lot to like on uh as
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: spend up options in these games. You got Washington heading
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: into Minnesota. Washington looks like probably the worst team in
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: the league right now, definitely one of the worst defenses
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: and basically every category. So all these guys in Minnesota
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I think are going to be in play tonight. Not
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: really too worried about blow coolibally returning Anthony Edwards has
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: crushed that matchup, so he's a totally fine option. I
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: still think that he should probably be priced to like
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: nine point five K. I'll just say from the Washington side, like,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: if you're playing any of these guys, I think that KISHN.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: George and CJ. McCollum have the best matchup, especially if
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Jay McDaniels were to miss. The Minnesota defense has been good,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: not as great as it was in years past, but
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: their pick and roll defense is really struggling. A bottom
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: two in NBA in that category. Kishon Georgia and CJ
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: are the two guys that get it done there. But
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: I think if you're playing these guys the most likely
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: way for them to get it done is in a
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: closer game, So I would probably want to pair them
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: with Minnesota piece and that would be pretty easy to do.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: So those guys are cheap between Keishawn and CJ, only
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: five point nine to five point ak. I don't really
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: like sar here, especially with the strength of the center
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Posis probably won't go there, but yeah, I think all
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: five of Aunt, Randall, Rudy, Dante, and Nas are in play.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Probably don't want both Ant and Randall together unless you
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: have multiple pieces of the game. So I would probably
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: be max one of those two guys, or I would
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: say if I have two of them, at least one
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: of CJ or Kishan George.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: And then yeah, I think Rudy is.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: A high side option the center position in a great
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: matchup that he's done well in the past.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Same thing for Nas reed Na.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: This is probably my favorite play on Minnesota, just a
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: lot less opportunity costspinning down for somebody five point three
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: k that has a longer leash in the fourth quarter,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: So I'd say he's my favorite.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: But really, like all these guys, how are you viewing
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: this game?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in kind of we're in pretty much almost
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: alllined here, just Star being questionable. If he's out doing
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: anything for.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: You, I don't think so, Like who would those minutes
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: go to? I guess Marvin Bagley?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure? Does it make you like those other guys
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: like and Keishan George Moore Like part of me yes,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: part of me no, because the blog concern becomes even
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: more real, But part of me yes, because like, sorry,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: eats up some usage, So like those guys would probably
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: eat that up.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's a good call, David, think about it
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: like that. But yeah, I mean yeah, that's a good
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: price site for them, especially taking away a guy like Sor.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Twenty seven percent usage rate is pretty big to take
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: off the courts.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I do agree with you there, Yeah, So just something
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: to think about, like in tournaments, the blog concerned, that's
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: obviously really big here. Minnesota's very good, Washington stinks as
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you alluded to, Randall and Edwards have good tags though,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: so like I'm not the only thing I disagree with
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: you is that, like, I don't think I would be
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: totally against playing them both together, even with no Washington,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: just because Minnesota could get there in three quarters, Like,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and there aren't like that many spend up options on
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: this slate, especially at those guys's positions, and we've got
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: good value elsewhere. So am I looking to do that? Well,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I do that in one of my three lineups. No,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if I personally would set a
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: rule against that. Otherwise, I agree with you, like, if
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I'm playing two of them, I want some Washington, And
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I do think there's like hidden upside here if this
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: game is close, just not sure how likely it is
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: to be close.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree there.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: I think I'm probably less inclined to say Max one
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: of those guys, but more so, like, if I'm playing
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: two of them, I think, yes, that i'd want to
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Washington piece just because I don't there is an outside
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: chance that they could both get there in three quarters,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: but I think that the way that they get it
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: done is probably in a closer game environment, and then
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: that would also take away from the rest of the
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Minnesota guys. So you're probably just getting a bulk of
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: the fantasy production from two guys instead, So that's kind
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: of what I'm thinking through. But I agree, I don't
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: know if I would set a MAXI one rule essentially, does.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: We didn't talk about McDaniels being out. Does that do
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: anything for us?
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Not from like a value standpoint, who would even be
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: starting Jalen Clark probably a little too thin on this
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: slid to really be considering him. He's three point three K,
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: so I guess you could in a good matchup, But
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: how does he compare it to those Warriors guys?
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: You know, No, he doesn't. It's really just like the
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: guys I see getting some bumps right now, are de
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Vincenzo a little bit and Nas Reid projected for a
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: pretty high ownership on this late Yeah.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I think Nas is pretty pretty good regardless.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I do worry about guys like that, like in the
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: blowout run though, because like if it's that big of
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: a blowout, like even a guy like him, like if
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: he's not on the floor, like he could lose major
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: run even more than the starters. Now, there's a chance
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: he could close in that type of scenario too, So
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: like I see it both sides, But I don't know.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think like just playing him because of the
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: blow is necessarily a smart way to play it. I
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: think he's just a good play regardless of that at
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: that price.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he does start the fourth quarter normally, so
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: you're just kind of hoping that it's like not not
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: like sixteen points. Yeah exactly, but I think that he yeah,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: he starts the fourth and and and to look like
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: they are off the court, there actually no Randall's on,
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: Gobert is off.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely a good spot to targets some of these
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Minnesota guys. It's a really good matchup. And we go
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: to another game that's very likely to blow out. Uh,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Sacramento going off against okay See tonight, another high spread.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I think this one of the.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Last three games, probably the most likely to blow out
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: in a really big way, just because of how good
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: okay See is. But Sacramento, no Sabonis tonight, they're just
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: doing It's really tough to have any sort of confidence
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: in these guys because the minutes could fall out in
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: a big way. We saw Zach Lavine even get benched
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: the last time out. I think that if you're considering
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: any of these guys, it's probably going to be Russ
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: and Schroeder for me. But I mean seven point seven
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: K for Russ, and this type of game environment seems
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: really big, so kind of is similar to the Washington
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: pieces in some way. Like I think if there are
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: scenarios where Uss could get there even in a blow out,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: because he did that against the okay see last time out,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: but I think forgetting like a really really big score
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: from him, it's probably in a closer game.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: So I might look to pair him as.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Well with like a SGA's that's kind of expensive, but
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: like Chet and Harnstein, I think make a good amount
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: of sense in those type of game environments.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: But yeah, not really excited.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: About the King stuff, And honestly that kind of gets
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: me off. Okay, see as well, I don't really think
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: that I want to pay ten point six for SGA
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: when I believe in like seventy five percent of the
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: games this season he hasn't even played the fourth quarter.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Look at the game log.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: He's not topping thirty minutes in any of his recent games,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: So that's kind of tough to spend up for that
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: type of minute production.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: So I think that I probably just want to.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Spend down for guys like Chet and Horns Siegin. We
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: saw Harnstein have the game of his life against Sacramento
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: last time out. Doubt he does that again, but it
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: is a really good matchup. And then same thing for Chet,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: like seven point six k good price sag for somebody
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: with his type of upside.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: How do you view this game?
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I view it the same as you. My big problem
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: with this game, like compared to the past game. I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: think if this game like is competitive, it's not some
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: like high scoring fiesta like okay See is just too
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: good for that. It's because like okay See's like not
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: really hitting shots. Whereas if I think I do think
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: that if Washington is competitive with Minnesota, there are scenarios
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: where like both teams are just hitting a ton of shots.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: So if I'm picking one of those games to go to,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I'm going to Washington Minnesota. I might be completely wrong there,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: but this game is just not appealing to me at all.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: The price tags are fair all around, and like I
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: think the block concern is just as real. So yeah,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: if there was one guy in Sacramento, it would be ross.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: But I feel like to your point. If I'm playing Russ,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I want an okay see piece, and I really don't
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: want an okay see piece Drew you Banks has then
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: now on this slate, so I'm good here.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, pretty easy to get off of this game.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Ohe there we go. Got Alex Saar listed out, so
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: that will definitely change some things. Maybe we can circle
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: back so that if we get a predicted starting lineup,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: because that'll I mean that. Yeah, I'm glad that you
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: brought up the CJ and Kishon George if Sorrow were
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: to be out, because I did look at the numbers
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: and they're pretty solid in a decently large sample size
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: for those guys.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: And I mean, I see Brandon Katz saying like that's
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: a bad take. Kings have a far better chance to
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: keep this game competitive than Washington. That's why we all
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: play our own DFS lineups, right, yep, all.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Right, it's another game with big blaw concerns. Denver hitting
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: into New Orleans tonight with a potential return of Zion
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: to make it. I don't know, there might be a
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: chance that for them keep it close. If Zion we're
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: to return, I don't think it changes too much if anything,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: that just makes the Pelicans guys, I would say borderline
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: unplayable at their price tags, Like, I don't think you
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: really want to pay seven point six for Murphy in
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: what looks like a tough matchup with Zion back. And
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: then there's a chance that with Zion returning, that Queen
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: is on the bench because they just I just don't
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: think you can really play Zion without a stretch big
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: alongside of him. Not really sure Queen fits that molds.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: I think that there's an outside chance that they do
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: not start alongside of each other if Zion were to
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: be in I like the best option on the Pelicans
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: right now is probably Jeremiah Fears. I think he's pretty
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: safe from a minute standpoint. We talked about it in
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: some shows in the past, where it's like you're getting
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: normal rotation and then probably playing in a blowout as well.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: But he doesn't compare very well in comparison to all
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: those Warriors guys. I don't really think that any of
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: these guys are going to become priority plays. Sadikbe being
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: questionable probably doesn't do enough, And then you got to
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: make a decision on Jokic thirteen K center only with
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: all the value at center.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know, he hasn't.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: The last time he played against the Pelicans, only played
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: twenty eight minutes. They put up a triple double, but
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: that was only for fifty nine DK points. You're going
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: to need like seventy plus from Jokic at that price
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: tag for him to be viable in tournaments. So I
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: guess that's a pretty big talk point if you want
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: to break down how you're handling a guy like Nikola
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Jokic tonight.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so man, I'm with you. I've obviously the blog
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: concern is really real here too. But I'm torn because,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: like I think there's enough value all the way around
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: to get to Jokic, but you are like forgive it
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: foregoing some of the other really good center plays, and
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: then obviously it construct like it constrains what else you
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: can do with your lineup. So like, I haven't built
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: my lineups yet, Like, I'm fine getting there if I do,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to prioritize him at thirteen K.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I wish there were like some other spend up options
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I liked a little bit more than I do. There aren't,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: But you know, that's just how the cookie crumbles tonight.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: I guess yeah.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I was just running some builds earlier and was getting
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: about twelve percent Yokic, which feels kind of uncomfortable, just
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: because you know that he's the most likely to really
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: blow the slate away in a way that you needed it.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: But we'll see.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: I mean that the Washington stuff does kind of change
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: things a little bit. Uh, But I'm gonna see if
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: we gotta project a storting line up there. Now it
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: looks like Marvin Bagley I would to step in.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I would like Yolkic a little bit, just to go
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: back to that real quick. I would like him a
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: little bit more if Diana's in, just because not that
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: it changes that much for me, but just the slight,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: you know, better shot of it being competitive.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I definitely agree there. It also seems like
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Denver is a team that kind of lets teams hang around.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: A little bit more, where okay See doesn't.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Right, they play with their food. That's the other great
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: point about what I forgot to say about okay See
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and Minnesota. Not that like Minnesota plays with their food,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: but okay See like doesn't mess around more than any
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: other team in the league. To your point, great point.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: I just got shit's good.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: I mean something destrapped in my room. Yeah, that's a
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: good point there. I mean, that's gonna do it. We
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: got through all these games in pretty short amount of time.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Are there any anything you want to circle back to
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: on like the Washington stuff that we suit. We do
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: get the projected starting lineup with Badley sledding in there,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: So he's going to be another decent value play because
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: he does have pretty solid permanent numbers this season, He's
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: only three point one k as well. Like, how would
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: you compare him to Trace Jackson Davis?
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Now, I was just about to ask you that, but
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I'll answer first since you asked me first. You know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: we've read the book on Marvin Bagley so many times
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: in the past. It's not like it's a new story,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: but kind of different role with him. If Sara is out,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's like as much competition. I do
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: think that he potentially will play more minutes than either
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Tray Jackson Davis or Post. He's thirty man, so I
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: think he's right up there. Like I think the spot
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: is way better for the guys on Golden State, So
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: like that why they're still up there for me, but
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't like argue with you at all if you're like,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: if you answer this, Bagley's not the top guy, how
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: do you see it now?
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: I think the thing that's kind of giving me a
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: little pause on Bagley is that Washington has so many
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: guys and Golden State is down five six main rotation pieces,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: so it's a little bit different. Like I do think
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: that there's a better chance for bag that he gets
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: like twenty seven to twenty eight minutes than there would
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: be for either Post or maybe Post could reach that,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: but Trace Jackson Davis definitely isn't getting up to like
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: near thirty. So I don't know, it's really I think
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: this is probably one. I'm gonna let the projections drive me.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: But they like Washington is pretty healthy outside of outside
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: of no Star, like they still have yeah, fourteen guys
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: that could see the court tonight.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: To your point, To your point, like I think that
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: while I think Bagley has a higher minute ceiling than
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the Golden State guys, I think the Golden State guys
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: are like basically locked in to be laying forty eight minutes,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: so like, well, neither of them will play thirty plus
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: minutes like Bagley, Like I said, we've read this book before,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: he could play, Like he could start and play the
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: first six minutes of each half and then like never
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: come in again. Like that would not surprise me at all.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I don't expect it, but it wouldn't surprise me.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they do have a I guess, like a
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: decent option behind him. Tristan Vukovic was a guy that had,
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: you know, was playable at times last season, so they
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: could like if he might start here, Yeah he could start,
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: I'd be I'd be pretty excited about that if he
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: If he did start, but then you're also kind of
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: playing like the leverage game. If he's seeing a good
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: amount of ownership, then you could pivot some of that
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: to Bagley.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: But I think that, uh, he would be a pretty
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: decent option if you were to start.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: I just want to look at some of the numbers
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: for Bagley last season when he started.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Just thinking about it, honestly, I don't want to play
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Bagley on this late, Like, yeah, I don't think you
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: need it. I think he's going to be owned and
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: like I think he's obviously said I don't hate it.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Obviously he's going to be a star. If he's starting
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: like dirt mint player, but man, like he's so volatile,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: like I mean, and it's tantalizing too, because like his
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: game was built for dfast and he's had very good
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: games and he's given run before, like when he gets
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: good minutes, he performs usually.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, numbers were pretty good. He actually only
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: had one start for Washington last season. I honestly forgot
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: that he played for Memphis towards the end of the
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: season last year, but he played twenty four minutes in
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: a start for Washington, and surprisally, both games came against Dallas.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: But twenty four minutes in a start for Washington last
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: year thirty and a half DK points. Then played thirty
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: one for Memphis. But that's a different situation because they're
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: always kind of really thin at that point in the season.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: So look at Tristan's real quick as well, because I
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: think he started one game for him twenty one minutes.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: So yeah, nobody's really running away from the minutes, it
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: seems like for Washington. So you have to see what
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: the what the stars look like. It could be could
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: be a weird selling lineup, but all right, I think
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: that's gonna do it unless we got any other thoughts,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: any any more closing thoughts on this late now that
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: we talked through all the games.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: No, it should be a fun one. Still waiting for
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: news to come in obviously, but you know, Golden State,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: you know, shouldn't get much bigger than that. It's about
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: how many Golden State is too many, I guess at
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: this point.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, definitely think that there are ways to get
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: away from it now with with the value opening up.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: But yeah, we'll see what it looks like as to
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: be a closer lock. All right, that's gonna do it.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Good luck everyone, and we'll be back on Friday for
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: the NBA Cup Show.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Good luck tonight.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: At the Man at
• 39:29
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